Part Of The Problem - Tucker Roasts The Media
Episode Date: June 29, 2024Dave Smith and Robbie The Fire Bring you the latest in politics! On this episode of Part Of The Problem Dave and Robbie take a look at the recent appearance by Tucker Carlson where he got int...o a heated moment with a member of the Corporate MediaSupport Our SponsorsMoink - https://www.moinkbox.com/potpLumen - https://www.lumen.me/problem for 15% off your Lumenprolon - https://prolonlife.com/ptpGet your tickets to Porch Tour Herehttps://porchtour.comFind Run Your Mouth here:Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@robbiethefire2577/streamsItunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/run-your-mouth-podcast/id1211469807Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4ka50RAKTxFTxbtyPP8AHmPart Of The Problem is available for early pre release on GaS Digital Network every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Sign-up with code POTP to get access to the archives, bonus content and more! https://gasdigital.comFollow the show on social media:Twitter: https://twitter.com/ComicDaveSmithhttps://twitter.com/RobbieTheFirehttps://www.instagram.com/bmackayisrightInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theproblemdavesmith/https://www.instagram.com/robbiethefire/https://www.instagram.com/bmackayisrightSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Here's your host, Dave Smith.
What's up, everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
I am Dave Smith. He is Robbie the Fire Bernstein.
What's up, brother? How you feeling today?
I've been trying to put things together before I head on the road, and I really don't like household stuff.
I want to get rid of my apartment.
I don't know where I'm going to live, but I just want to be done with having a place.
Wait, you want to downgrade from an apartment?
You're moving toward homeless?
That's your solution?
Yeah, I want to somehow downgrade from a one-bedroom to maybe a studio.
A park bench?
And work my way down.
I feel like you could really keep a park bench.
Neat.
Yeah. studio a park my way down i feel like you could really keep a park bench neat yeah this is this is what uh god this is why god pulled a rib out of your rib cage and made a woman okay this is
why you need to get yourself a good lady ladies out there listening i know it's not the majority
of our our audience but ladies out there listening rob needs a good woman uh light housework will be
required um you're you're gonna have's but you're gonna have to like
you're gonna have to be cool you got to give him some space every now and then rob needs to just
go take a walk he doesn't want to answer a bunch of questions about it you're gonna have to accept
that don't worry rob i'm gonna hook you up i know you bro there you go and then uh but but if you
could keep a one bedroom apartment in order, you're going to be just fine.
You'll always have a but he's got plenty of green screens to go around.
You need an extra green screen.
Your man Rob's got you.
All right.
Well, where are you going that you're getting ready for, Rob?
We got Hawthorne, PA, Pittsburgh, PA this weekend. And then Virginia's North Fork, Virginia, Virginia Beach, Richmond, and then off to Texas.
So got a whole bunch of porch tour coming at you.
Hell yeah.
And I will see you out there at the end in Texas.
That'll be the weekend I'm doing the comedy mothership.
I was just talking.
I think Lewis is going to come out for a little bit of that, too.
So look at that.
Lewis J. Gomez, Robbie the Fire Bernstein.
Everybody will be out there.
Come hang out.
Come meet us all.
And and then we got a bunch more
stuff coming up. Comic Dave Smith dot com. Me and Rob are going to be on the road a lot for the rest
of this year, for the rest of this crazy year. And of course, things are just things are really
kicking into full gear here in the political season. We we will, we will, this, uh, show, we're not going to talk so much about the,
um, the, the presidential, uh, election and the debate, because we're going to do that on a live
stream and on subsequent shows. So let's, uh, let's get into some other stuff. I wanted to,
this video is freaking priceless. And I just thought it was when I saw it, I was like, oh, we have to just
break this down and kind of respond to it. But so my boy, Tucker Carlson, is over in Australia.
He was going over there. Well, I don't know. Maybe I shouldn't say it's public
knowledge, but whatever. He's over there in a big someone very important just went to Australia.
So, you know, anyway, Tucker was over there and I guess he gave a talk kind of like a
press conference type thing where he took questions from Australian media.
I will confess I do not know a lot about the domestic politics of Australia.
I think I speak from most of the world when I say
that. I did. We became aware of the fact that Australia was one of, if not the most tyrannical,
you know, covid insanity countries, maybe not the most. I know there's countries like China
and stuff like that, but they were pretty goddamn bad in Australia. And that became kind of well known in American
politics, like some of the more egregious quotes about unvaccinated losing their rights and crazy
quarantine policies and stuff like that. But it was interesting to hear from some of the
reporters over there. Really fascinating in a way where you go, oh, whatever the whatever the corporate media viruses, they have caught it over there.
Their reporters are as infected as ours are.
Did you see any of this, Rob?
It was, you know, an hour or so speech.
I thought it was just fascinating and great.
I sent the clip last night at like 2 in the morning and I just
have to imagine that this is the
Oh, I didn't even see that.
Did you send a clip at 2 in the morning?
I've never seen a better dismantling
of someone trying to
reframe your racist position.
So this was glorious.
Obviously this is the same clip. How did I miss that you
It's all good. Maybe I sent this to someone else.
Oh, did you email it to me?
You definitely didn't send it in our text thread.
I don't know.
You know, I was all flustered trying to clean.
Yeah, there you go.
This is why Rob needs a woman.
I didn't get that video at all.
OK, so, yes, 100 percent.
We're talking about the same moment.
By the way, there were several great moments in this.
I highly recommend it.
Tucker put it out on his Twitter and his YouTube page.
You can go watch the full thing.
But this was the best moment of the whole thing.
Thank you very much for your address today.
So you talked a little bit about immigration.
And in the past, you've talked about how white Australians,
Americans, Europeans are being replaced by non-white immigrants
in what is often referred to as the great replacement theory.
This is the same.
Have I said that whites are being replaced?
Well, I don't think I said that.
Well, it's been mentioned on your show 4,000 times.
Really?
When did I say that?
On your show.
I said whites are being replaced?
You have said that before.
All right.
So just pause it right here.
So, of course, Tucker, she goes, she starts off with a not at all
inflammatory question, which is, this is how the game goes. Right. And, um, the, she goes,
you've said this, I think Tucker has not said, and then just proceeds to the question. Of course,
the, this has a heavy implication that you're some type of bigot. You know what I mean? I can
tell you as somebody who regularly watched
Tucker's show when he was on Fox News and regularly watches his show since he's been on his own
network and on X. That's not true. Tucker is not. What Tucker has said over and over again is that
they, through massive waves of immigration, are attempting to replace the domestic population,
not white people, the domestic population. And of course, that is a huge difference.
There's a very different. First of all, it's like they talk about this in their own words,
as we've discussed on the show before. But look, if I were to say you're replacing Americans,
obviously that's a very different statement than saying you're replacing white people.
Because if I'm talking about Americans, I'm talking about a whole lot of black people
and Hispanic people and Asian people and African, you know, everything. And so your concern is not just for white people. Your concern now is for a
very multiracial, multiethnic, diverse group of people that changes things. It's like if it didn't
change things, why would she change it? And then, of course, she uses this bullshit tactic where I
forget. I'm sorry, I blanked on the number. But he goes, when did I actually say that? And she goes,
you've mentioned it 700 times on your show. But of course, whatever number it wasn't 700, but whatever she was saying. But it's not when she says you've addressed it. It is not the thing she said. It is the thing Tucker actually said. So just starting off right away with just very obvious dirty tricks.
away with just very obvious dirty tricks. Well, it's amazing how dismantling it was for him just to say, can you actually provide evidence that I made that statement? And, you know, you would
think if you wanted to start off with this conversation, you would have brought that.
Or let's just say you were you had a shred of integrity, right?
A shred of honesty, just a shred of basic human shame that when you go, hey, you've said that you care about replacing or that that immigration is replacing white people.
And he went, oh, I don't think I've said white people.
And then you go, OK, not white people, but you've said the domestic population.
You know what I mean? Like,, just, okay. Just admit that. Okay, fine. It's
that's true. You didn't exactly say white people or, and if you don't know that, what the hell are
you doing asking this question? This is the most basic thing in, in, I mean, this isn't even like
journalism 101. This is like before you enter the door of 101. If you're going to stand up
there and say, sir, you've said this in the past, the job is to have looked into this already and
know that he said this in the past. I mean, just like imagine you're getting OK, so you are somebody
who calls themselves a reporter or a journalist or whatever, and you have the biggest political commentator in America
coming to Australia, and you're going to open with, you, sir, have said this.
It's not on you to have actually found the firsthand source of him saying that. I mean,
listen, Tucker Carlson, he wrote a book and I'm
sure, you know, he, back in the day, he used to write a lot of articles. I don't know how many
articles he writes anymore, but the stuff that we know of Tucker Carlson, it's not as if like
we're going off a leak and it's someone close to Tucker Carlson reports that he had said this, right? What we know of Tucker Carlson is what he looks into a camera and says,
or what he publishes himself and writes.
You should have the firsthand source right there.
In fact, you'd think if you're doing this job, not only would you have it,
you'd have it with you so that if he ever says, I didn't say it, you could say,
well, right here is where you said it.
Except the problem is she's just making this up. He never said it. And the idea, the goal here is to go in with these kind
of gotcha tactics where you've already implanted the idea in people's heads that this is a racist
guy. And then it's like, hey, I'm just asking you about why you're a racist guy. And it's like,
I didn't say that. You're like, whoa, you're getting defensive here, racist guy. You know,
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You just cite that because I'm pretty sure I haven't said that.
I said I said native born Americans have are being replaced, including blacks, native born
Americans, native born Americans, Americans who like black Americans have been African
Americans, have been in the United States for in many cases, their families over 400
years.
And their concerns are every bit as real and valid and alive to me as the concerns of
white people whose families have been there 400 years so i i've never said that whites are being
replaced not one time and you can't say that so um i'm we just met but when our relationship
starts with a lot already even to say i believe that's untrue how it's your job. The most basic thing of your job is no, you don't believe you either know or you don't know.
You opened with a statement that was you've said X because I've never said X. I don't believe that's true.
Well, why are we going off? Believe again, this isn't three sources close to Tucker Carlson said that he said X.
This isn't three sources close to Tucker Carlson said that he said X.
Either he said it or he didn't.
You can have the proof for this, but you don't because he didn't.
It's just insane.
It's like Kathy Newman level of just like insanity.
All right, let's keep playing.
We just met.
But when our relationship starts with a lie, it makes it tough to be friends. So, I mean, you've been let's pull that back.
I'm happy to explain what I do you actually can't
say it because I didn't say it and I don't believe it and I'm telling you
that to your face so why don't you just accept me at face value my concern is
that the people who are born in the country are the main responsibility of
its leaders and as noted earlier when those leaders shift their concern from
the people whose responsibility is to take care of to people around the world to put their priorities above that of their own citizens,
that's immoral.
And they are being replaced in my country, people who were born in the United States.
And the birth rate tells the whole story.
They are not at replacement rate.
And so the U.S. population is growing because we're importing people from other countries.
And my view is that happy people have children.
And a functioning economy allows them to do that.
And we don't have that. And so you need to fix the economy and fix the culture and make it so that people who want to have kids can.
You don't just go for the quick sugar fix of importing new people like that's my position.
And if you think that's racist, that's your problem.
I never called you racist. But of course you are.
That's your problem.
I never called you a racist.
But of course you are.
Pause it right there.
Isn't that just beautiful? I mean, what is like the level of smugness and dishonesty?
It's just so despicable.
I never called you racist.
I mean, yeah, technically you didn't get up there and say you're a racist, but obviously that's the basis of the question.
Like, come on, what would you object to about someone saying the whites are being replaced?
You'd object to the fact that it's race. That's why you changed what he said to that thing so
that you could paint it as racist. And isn't it amazing? I mean, and look, this is like my,
my ultimate conclusion from this video is like
one of strong optimism, which is what a beautiful world we're living in where these
bullshit tactics are totally being exposed and falling apart. But I do think it's worth people.
And this was, by the way, something that goes back to many years ago. When I say many years ago,
whatever, you know, eight years ago, something like that,
I think it was around 2017 when I had like, I interviewed a couple of the alt right guys at
the time when that was kind of like a bit of a thing that was being talked about. And, you know,
a lot of, uh, uh, people got hysterical about it and threw a hissy fit or Dave's being chummy with
these guys. He's having friendly conversations with them. And look for my, my defense to that always was like, Hey, this was done on my podcast.
Nobody who listens to my podcast is confused about where I stand on the issues. I'm pretty
clear about like what my political philosophy is, what I believe should be done. But I got to admit,
even though I completely disagreed with a lot of those guys' conclusions and found them to be
distasteful and oftentimes just goofy, like, I don't know what to, if you're, if you're arguing
that the United States of America ought to be a white ethno state. What do you even do with that?
It's so just absurd on its face. And of course, wrong. But they seem to be the only group of
people who were talking about any of these issues. And so now it's become this thing where if anyone
addresses any of these issues, they immediately just try to say you're racist. But think about really take a step back and think about what Tucker Carlson saying. The question of crumbling
birth rates is a pretty profound question. You could argue the most profound thing a society
could be going through that like, oh, your society isn't reproducing. They're not reproducing at a
sustainable level.
That has been what human beings have been doing for their entire existence under much worse circumstances than we have today.
It's an interesting question.
It's an interesting thing to talk about.
Why is it that our society is not making more people the way they almost always have?
It's a really interesting question. And then for Tucker
to point out that that's happening while we're having the highest levels of immigration that
we've ever had, that is interesting. And you have a right to have an opinion on that and to have an
opinion on that. And someone say, no, you're just a bigot. That's what it is. That's what it all
whittles down to. Probably not like probably not the most charitable interpretation of that.
I don't know. Any other thoughts? You know, when you watch someone who's great at something, it looks easy.
And it's it's wild the amount of skill that this takes from Tucker and the ability to sit there calmly and completely dismantle this, because it's tough when someone sits there and they accuse you of something.
And then you go, well, do you have evidence of that?
And then you continue and they go, well, you're lying.
What do you mean I'm lying?
Like, I'm actually, let me just tell you what my opinion is.
And then he's got an opinion that I think everyone in the world could listen to and go,
oh, yeah, this is a very important question for us to address.
But she's so certain of, hey, I'm going to have this gotcha moment.
And like she needs to, I don't know what the rest of this lady's career looks like.
I feel like this is just being younger and out of college where the narrative is supposed
to be, hey, that guy's white and he's talking about these things.
So he must be a racist and we have to call him out for it.
But I wish we saw these moments like this all the time.
And it's because people aren't as skilled as Tucker that this is in every single conversation
we see on the news. Dude, you're 100 percent right. And I can tell you having some experience,
you know, not exactly in the situation that Tucker's in right now, but having experience
with things like that, like hostile interviews, kind of like people trying to ask these gotcha questions when you're on camera
and a lot of people are watching and you have to like in real time react to it. Like I've been in
situations like that before. And there are, there's, as you said, like with all of these things,
like with every, anyone who's great at anything, I'm not saying I'm saying Tucker's great, not myself.
But for anyone who's like great at something, they always make it look easy.
Michael Jordan made it look easy.
I mean, maybe it didn't look like you could like, you know, jump as high as him or something like that.
But like little moves he would make that you just be like, oh, that looks so easy.
It's like it's not takes a lot of work.
You got to be really, really good at that. Like there's someone who's so good at that. You couldn't believe it.
And they're still nowhere near as good as this guy is at that. And one of the things that's
very challenging is that so you're immediately, you're on the spot, someone's lying about you.
So right away, it's like this very aggressive posture. And you can have this instinct
to like want to fight with this person. But if you get angry, then it just looks like you're
defensive. And then like that comes off bad. There's also this kind of there's this weird
social psychological thing that we all have in us where you don't want like she's trying to call you
out in front of a group of people as your bad person. And there's something very deep rooted in all of us to not want to be that.
I don't want to be seen as bad by everyone.
But, you know, like in our monkey brains or whatever, you know, like you're just in front of your tribe.
Like you may on some level know that it's like, oh, there's like an audience out there.
But you're on a very visceral level.
You're standing up in front of the tribe and
someone's trying to call you out for being bad. And so you want to rush back to the middle of
the pack. You have to kind of fight that. And then you have to, you have to in all of this chaos,
be able to like pick apart what exactly they just said and what the flaw in is in that,
and then give it back to them in a way that's going to be compelling to the group of people
around you. It is, it's a trickier thing than it seems like. And yet Tucker Carlson is just
masterful at it. What she's doing because being called a racist is, you know, that we don't
really like that in our society. People don't like racists. It's a pretty bad claim. You might
as well be starting a conversation. Is it true that in your private time you like to touch kids?
well be starting a conversation is it true that in your private time you like to touch kids excuse me like why are you asking me because it inserts into the narrative and puts you on the
defensive of having to address whether or not you like you've said you've talked many times about
touching your kids and i was like no i was talking about like playing with my kids and they're like
okay i don't think that's true but okay let's just keep going wait what no we're not gonna keep going
after that that's like a crazy like we need to
correct the record uh yeah okay here let's let's keep playing that's your problem i never called
you a racist um but of course you but of course you are suggesting and i must say one of the
reasons people don't like people like you in the media is that you never say exactly what you mean
your slurs are all by implication and you're about to tell me the great replacement theory is racist or
anti-Semitic,
whatever.
I I've said what I've said to you right now,
like a hundred times in public.
I hope to,
if I live long enough,
say it a hundred more times.
I think it's completely honest and real,
not racist or scary.
It's factually true.
It's not a theory.
It's a fact.
And your,
the whole point of your question was to be like,
you're a scary racist. Well, I haven't, my response is no, I'm not. Okay. Well, a fact. And the whole point of your question was to be like, you're a scary racist.
Well, I haven't actually asked my question.
And my response is, no, I'm not.
Okay, well, how about no more lying in your questions, and then I'll answer it.
Okay, well, this is the same theory, or as you say, idea, that has inspired the New York Buffalo shooting.
Just pause it for a second.
It's not, this is what's so masterful about it.
He calls her shot, and she still walks into it
she still goes she goes i wasn't calling you racist at all i wasn't saying anything you didn't
even let me finish my question he's like well yeah but you're about to connect this to some
overall racist view and she's like oh can i just finish my question this is the same theory that
the racist shooter had in buffalo i mean dude, how pathetic. First off, she's lied about what he
said. I love that he called her out. He goes, this is why people don't like people like you.
And it's totally true. This is why people are rejecting the corporate journalists,
if you can call them that. And then it's immediately to this next thing of like,
oh, this racist person also did that. Again, we've dealt with this argument before.
It's just so stupid. It's so stupid. I mean, remember when there was that Bernie Sanders
supporter who shot up the baseball field, the congressman, Ron Rand Paul was was there when
it happened. Scalise, I think, was the other guy or whatever. But they they he shot it. It's like
me and you would never dream of if we were debating a Democratic socialist going, hey, your ideas are so dangerous.
This mass shooter crazy guy was a Democratic socialist because that's the worst argument ever.
It's just so pathetic. Like what? So I'm not allowed to speak anymore.
anymore. If I'm against the wars and I say, hey, I'm against the wars. And then some anti-war guy goes and like blows up some Pentagon building or something like that. That's on me because I
oppose the war. So I guess I guess we're no longer allowed to dissent at all. Now, of course, none of
this ever applies to your views, Miss Reporter Lady. Right. You're allowed to say whatever you want to, you know, like if there was some, uh, some, some black guy who kills a white guy, like, uh, some type of like racist
crime. I don't think you're ever allowed to come back and go, you know, you call everybody racist.
And then this one black guy was so convinced everybody was racist that he went out and killed
people. There's plenty of examples of that, but we're never going to apply that to her.
We're just going to apply it to Tucker. If you ever talk about how immigrants are bad, you own what some lone,
crazy racist person did. You've been an advocate for the LGBTQ and last year,
trans shootings were on the rise. We've had two incidents, a massive increase in the danger
of violence, trans shooters. Are you willing to condemn the gay pride parade? Oh, yeah. You're on you're on you're on the hook for every pedophile or something like
that. If you've ever advocated for you know what I mean, like any of this stuff, it's like, you
know, this is just this is this is goofy. It's not a serious line of argumentation. All right,
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Come on. Do you know what I mean?
It's also inspired.
First of all, it's inspired the worst,
one of the worst Australian guys. How do they get people this stupid in the media?
I guess it doesn't pay well.
I'm sorry. I've lived among
people like you for too long.
I don't mean to call you stupid.
Maybe you're just pretending to be, but I've never, I'm totally against violence. I'm totally against the war in Ukraine, for
example, which doubtless you support. And like all dutiful liberals support more carnage. I don't.
I hate mass shootings, actually. Nothing I said, what does it mean to inspire something? My views
are not bigoted against any group.'re honest they're factual that's not
hate that's reality and my views derived from my deep concern for Americans actually Americans
aren't having kids because they can't afford to and nobody in charge cares and so that's my position
that doesn't inspire mass shootings how dare you try to tie me to some lunatic who murdered people? How dare you, actually?
And in fact, I mean, do you know what I mean?
I'd be like, you know, Hitler wore those shoes.
A lot of people are saying that you're like Hitler.
Can you explain those shoes?
Hitler wore exactly the same shoes.
And you're like, I've got nothing to do with Hitler.
That's how I feel about your absurd, disingenuous question.
Right, so therefore you support gun control?
What?
I thought it could be a cover, but it did. No, control what i thought it could pause it right there tucker's line i thought it couldn't get any dumber but it did is the i mean
that was literally a a kathy newman moment so you support gun control because those that's the
binary that you either oh well now that you've made it clear
that you oppose mass shootings now that you've come out against mass shootings. So obviously
you support gun control because that's the debate, right? The people who love innocent people getting
murdered and those who support gun control. And again, I mean, as Tucker, I think he says it one,
but he says,
I don't mean to say you're this stupid. You might just be pretending to be, to be clear,
she is pretending to be this person. Isn't this stupid? That's not. And I do think that even
though, by the way, Tucker handles this masterfully and it, it makes sense in his moment to point out
how stupid this line of questioning is. But as as people who aren't
in that moment right now, I'd probably say the same thing if I were him. It's the right thing
to say. But as someone who's just kind of dissecting this from a studio across the world,
it's like just to be clear, this isn't stupidity. It's not what it is. This woman isn't so dumb
that she can't possibly fathom that there isn't a binary between loving murder and loving gun control.
Believe me, she's not that stupid. This is all tactics. That's what it is. She's been trained in this like, you know, it's almost like if there was a sniper who's been trained to assassinate
people and you were like, oh, this guy must be really stupid because this is going to end up
killing someone. It's like, no, no, no. That's the point. He's not being stupid. It's just unlike a trained sniper. Her tactics are really weak
and they're being exposed now. It's you know what this is. It's a sales call. She's got her sales
script. She's supposed to go out and ask these specific questions. And she hangs up the phone
and the manager goes, all right, you couldn't close that guy. And the close here was getting him.
But they'll play that exact same script on somebody else because sometimes people aren't as good as Tucker Carlson.
They don't see through it.
They don't know how to maneuver around it.
And they get them.
So they'll continue to run with this script.
She did her job.
It's not like she's going to lose her job.
It's not like whatever newspaper she works for goes, oh, you idiot.
You couldn't handle that.
You came in unprepared. It's like she
had specific training of these are the style questions
you're supposed to ask to try and generate a
gotcha moment. And
Tucker, turns out, didn't work on Tucker.
Couldn't close him. He was too slick.
But, you know, just get on the next call.
Next journalist that comes here, go ask
these same exact questions. You might be able to get them
in a bad moment. Yep, exactly.
Here, let's keep playing.
No, I don't support disarming law-abiding people so they can't defend themselves so the government has a monopoly on violence i don't think so first of all in my country that's illegal
as you know but moreover it should be illegal in every country a sovereign person has the right to defend himself and his family, period.
And that said, I'm totally opposed to harming anyone, anyone.
Have you been calling? Are you concerned about the war in Ukraine and the countless innocents being murdered there every single day?
I doubt you are. Probably Putin bad.
I am. I'm a Christian. I hate violence.
I hate mass shootings.
I have guns at home and often on my personal run in the United States, I'm proud to say, because I want to defend myself and those
I love against violence. That's the point. I'm not perpetrating crimes. I'm not shooting strangers.
I'm defending what I love. And if you're against that, I guess I would ask why.
Why would you be against that?
Well, so you don't think you harbor any kind of responsibility for these hate crimes?
I'm sorry. I'm trying to be charitable.
Just ask once more for the close.
I was like, maybe you're just pretending to be dumb.
Now I don't think it's an act.
Just to be clear, and that's the end of the video,
but that's the part I was referring to. It's a great last line by Tucker. He to be clear, that's a, and that's the end of the video, but that's the part
I was referring to that. It's a great last line by Tucker. He's not right about that. She is just
pretending to be, it is an act. It's not real. She's not really that stupid. It's just one last
pathetic attempt to like, let me tie you to mass shootings. Just so like genuinely,
shootings. Just so like genuinely. I can't put into words how disgusting that person is.
It's just like, how do you how do you leave here and not just feel terrible about yourself? It boggles my mind. I will say the thing, as I alluded to before, well, I just love that you've got a guy like Tucker who is so talented at this and so popular that he's got
so much support that it's just turns into everyone in the room before he can even respond.
They're laughing at her. Now, I'm not saying obviously there are still X percentage of the population that are fooled by the corporate media that are propagandized by them or that want to buy into it and kind of more knowingly go into this kind of like attack Tucker Carlson mode. Anyone who criticizes immigration, let's just call them racist. But there just is no
question that there are huge numbers of people who are waking up to this bullshit and like find it
despicable as they should. And I just find that really encouraging. It's really encouraging.
Like we do have some data on this stuff. We know the number of people who
listen to Tucker Carlson versus the number of people who listen to CNN, let's say, or Joe Rogan
versus MSNBC or something like that. And it is just really encouraging to see so many people
wake up, you know, forget just politics or the presidential election or anything like that.
But like, we've got to live
in a society here. The more people we have who are not this level of insane, the better.
That would be my final comment on it. But just a beautiful, just a priceless moment
from Tucker Carlson. I'm personally grateful to him for it. um okay there's one other video that uh i got sent a lot
this week that i thought would be kind of interesting to uh to respond to bill maher on
his show a couple days ago had a uh a rant kind of about um the generational dynamics in in the
united states of america and kind of the boomers versus the gen z. And this is something we've talked a lot about on this show.
And obviously we see it in a different way than Bill Maher does.
So I thought this would be fun to kind of play some of this and let me and Rob respond to it.
So let's start. Let's start the tape.
I make fun of them, but I don't feel too bad about it because they never engage with the idea itself.
It's always just you're old. Yeah, that's not an argument.
It's a prejudice. The thing you. Yeah, that's not an argument. It's a prejudice,
the thing you purport to hate. I'm sorry that I can't look at your queers for Palestine banner and pretend it's not idiotic, but just because something is progressive doesn't always make it progress.
It's about ideas, not age. And to prove my point, tonight I'd like to talk about how
mind-blowingly batshit crazy a lot of people my age are. A funny thing is happening in this
election. The younger voters are liking Trump more and more, and the over-60 crowd, which normally
leans Republican? Is this time preferring Biden? And I think I know why. If you're my age, you've
seen friends and loved ones go down a Facebook rabbit hole or get sucked into the Fox News vortex
and never come back the same, transformed from a normal person into some lunatic who's hoarding survival seeds and
let's get them as a sponsor thinks jewish space lasers cause wildfires and
well that one's true form of mind control there's a viral tweet that says fox news and facebook did
to our parents what they said
video games would do to us. I just pause it right there. I love that. By the way,
I think Bill Maher is going on this rant as he sits next to one of the most corrupt people in
Washington, D.C. is sitting as that Kinsler guy and saying all this. So, you know, there seems, first of all,
there's obviously there's a very interesting dynamic that Bill Maher lays out there,
which is true, at least according to the polls, that young people are trending more toward Trump
and that older people are trending more toward Biden. Now, of course, to be clear, that's not
young people still prefer Biden and older people still prefer Trump. But the trends are moving in that direction.
And then Bill Maher posits, I guess, a hypothesis as to why this might be. And he's saying it's
because people in the boomer generation have seen so many of their friends fall down these crazy conspiracy rabbit holes.
Now, look, there immediately does seem to be somewhat of a contradiction there. I'm not
saying it's like a blatant contradiction, but there is something where you're like,
well, I thought your whole point is that boomers are trending more toward Biden.
So if they're trending more toward Biden, how big of a problem is it that they're falling
down the right wing conspiracy rabbit holes? No, I think I well, firstly, I'll tell you why
old people are going for Biden. It's because he's inspiring that maybe they can work while
they have dementia, too. You know, it's just the inspiring story that maybe as an old person,
incompetent, unable to perform their job, people will let them continue to do it
and have their dignity.
But no, I think he's saying the opposite.
I think that old people,
and I think what he's saying
is that old people are watching young people
get radicalized,
and so they have more of an interest in Biden
who will engage in potentially tech censorship
or otherwise.
I don't know that it's specifically tech censorship.
Well, no, he's saying they did to our parents' generation.
He's saying people my age have watched their friends.
He's saying boomers, because of Facebook and Fox News,
have fallen down this crazy thing where they're trying to get their,
whatever, the prep seeds and stuff like that ready,
because now they're these like crazy
prepper types. And like, I just, there is something about, I don't know, it's a dynamic that comes up
kind of often. I, even in stuff like when you see the corporate media, you know, talking about how there's all this disinformation online, all these conspiracy theorists.
And when you see, you know, Bill Maher making this point, you know, I was talking about this and I just did a Ukraine debate on breaking points.
wild to see people hyper focused on what like the other side is doing wrong without having an ounce of self-reflection, without having an ounce of like, OK, but why? Why is that? You know what
I mean? Like, why is this prepper stuff becoming so popular? You know, one of the things I was
talking about, because my debate opponent, Vouch, in this debate talked about how Putin was an expansionist threat.
And he's like, oh, look, you know, he had the war in Chechnya.
I had the war in Georgia.
And look at now the war in Ukraine.
And I was talking about how and I prefaced it by saying something along the lines of like and I think this is true for relationships, whether it's like a marriage or a business relationship or a friendship or anything
like that. It's always the tendency is always to kind of focus on what the other person did.
Like if there's a conflict to focus on what the other person did and what the other person did
wrong, whether it's your friend or your wife or your business partner, if there's some type of
conflict, the easiest baseline response is always to focus on like what they did. Well, you did this and that
pissed me off. And I don't like that you did this and this and this. But if you're in a successful
relationship, again, friendship, business partnership, marriage, whatever, what you develop
is kind of the tools or the ability to go like, all right, let me think about what I did.
I think about what role I'm playing in this. Like, yes, I didn't like that you did that. But I also
understand that that was a response to me doing that. That's that's like when you have a more
successful relationship. And I said to him, I go, think about how ridiculous this is to refer to
Vladimir Putin as expansionist, when literally at the fall of the Soviet Union, we drew the line
down the Elbe River through the middle of Germany. And the east of that was the Soviets and west of
that was was the Western democracies. And now we've moved the line all the way over to Russia's
borders. And we're going, look, he's expansionist. Like what? How can you say that with a straight
face? Anyway, likewise to the Bill Maher thing, imagine in the year 2024 going, hey, Rob, people
are like trying to keep supplies of food in their homes. Where'd they get this kooky idea from?
And not at least go like, oh yeah,
that's right. We did shut the world down. That did happen. That might also, we did shut the world
down while we lied through our teeth about why we were doing it when we did it for completely
bullshit reasons. Maybe that's why someone is listening to a survivalist channel. Maybe that's why they're
more popular. I mean, I don't know. I don't think of myself as a wacky conspiracy theorist. I don't
think I'm like an unhinged person. I'm a pretty regular guy with a nice career and a nice family.
I have supplies in a way that I never had before. I think about that much more now than I ever did
so years before. And I was
even in the libertarian world where we're always kind of connected to like some preppers and some
doomsday type guys. I never really was like took that stuff very seriously. Now I'm pretty
interested in making sure that I have food and generators and extra gasoline and extra supplies
and the means to protect those supplies. Yeah,
that's something I think about a lot more now, because I don't know, the world seems a lot more unstable. And I got little kids, so I got to make sure they're protected. I don't think it's
because I was propagandized into this. I think if anything, I was radicalized by the establishment.
Anyway, let's keep playing the video a little.
Biden is winning seniors is we want our friends back.
We all have that uncle or grandparent or in-law or favorite TV star a movie star who used to be an everyday reasonable citizen,
but now forwards emails in all caps
about election conspiracies and QAnon conspiracies
and what 5G is really going to be used for
and what's going on in the basement of Hillary's pizza parlor
and how the reptilian shadow government
is threatening to turn everyone gay by putting fluoride in the Budweiser.
A popular political book once asked, what's the matter with Kansas?
Today we have to ask, what's the matter with grandma?
We've watched too many friends disappear into this weird black hole.
Many are married to Supreme Court justices.
Look, by the way, look who he's got next to him on the goddamn panel.
Is it just unbelievable? Oh man, why are people buying into these conspiracies so much?
Literally next to you, you've got one you've got one guy who literally was was instrumental in trying to convince the entire country that Russia had overthrown our government and installed an agent of Vladimir Putin.
And the other one sent covid positive patients into nursing homes against the request of the nursing homes.
And you're sitting there in between these
two guys going, why does everyone believe in conspiracies all of a sudden? Isn't it so nice
when you're Bill Maher, when you're just like a multi-multi-millionaire, you know, within the
establishment world to be like, guys, guys, stop questioning this world so much. Come on, it's fine.
And then, of course, it's easy. It's easy to make fun of people and to just bring up
the most ridiculous of the conspiracies. You know, oh, they think Jew lasers are shooting everywhere.
There are some people who believe in goofy conspiracy theories. Overall, over the last
four years, if you wanted to take the track record of your two guests, of Andrew Cuomo and
what's his Kinslinger or whatever his name is,
if you want to take their track record and put it up against your average conspiracy theorists
track record, I'd put all of my money on the conspiracy theorist 100 out of 100 times.
I might lose like five out of 100, but I'm winning the other 95.
Yeah, it's infuriating because they did this. I want to be careful with my words here.
I just got a strike on my YouTube channel, which was shocking. But in calling the COVID vaccine
a vaccine, you then left a lot of people questioning vaccines in general. If you hadn't
called it that, people that otherwise weren't investigating it weren't investigating it.
I think there's a lot of people that are a little bit more distressful than with government.
Because you would have thought the branch of government that's responsible for health, I can at least trust that branch of government. And how many things have they just boldface lied to us on where out information now of the range of what they'll tell you on mainstream media or corporate press versus if you go to Twitter.
And I mean, it's a similar joke to him of just how outlandish the scope of information is if you're trying to sift through truth.
But they did this to us because they were dishonest. And so now if you're just trying to figure out, well, what the hell is going on? You've got to sift through the extremes of
the conspiracies online of, hey, the earth is flat and there's holes to the center of the earth
and there's lizard people and the aliens are here because, you know, you can't just turn on your TV
and have the comfort of, oh, this guy's telling me the truth about diseases in the world. Yeah. You know, I say this as somebody and to everybody who listens to this show,
I think, you know, right, that I'm not. I don't think I'm being inaccurate when I say that, like
I, as you could probably tell, like maybe you've never heard me talk about this before,
but you could probably tell just from listening to this show. I'm not a fan of sloppy conspiracy theorists like I don't like just throwing stuff at the wall.
And, you know, there's a lot of guys who do that.
The most famous, of course, is Alex Jones.
I don't really like that stuff.
I don't like just throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks.
Every wild theory.
Let's let's treat it like it's true.
I think that Alex Jones gets a lot of credit
among certain groups for the things he got right.
And that fair enough, he deserves that.
But a lot of the people who love him
don't look at all the things he got wrong.
And there were a lot of them,
like a lot of wild conspiracies that he went all in on.
We know this is true i have the
papers we can prove they just turned out completely not to be true we don't really do that i don't do
sensational like conspiracies just for the clicks or like i like things that i can prove i think if
you look at any of the kind of like theories we've had on this show for the last many years now
i mean i'm sure there's a few that we've gotten wrong,
but overwhelmingly we've been right
about the most important issues.
And we haven't just been off on wild conspiracy theories.
Okay.
But that being said, to have somebody,
especially sitting between Cuomo and this other guy,
you know, to be like denigrating people
who believe in wild conspiracies.
I know I've used this example before, but it is like it is like if you were like cheating on your wife constantly
and lying to her about it and constantly and then she comes to you one day, you know, you were out
and didn't answer the phone, but you weren't cheating that day. You were just out and didn't
answer the phone. And she's like, I know you were cheating. I know you were out there with some
other girl. I know you were doing this. It's like, okay, even though she might be wrong in this
instance, she's kind of right on some more gut level, right? Like she knows you're lying and
you're cheating and okay, she's wrong. But for you to turn around that time and go, oh, she's a
wild conspiracy theorist. She thinks I was out with three girls last night. I wasn't at all. It's like, no,
people smell that you're full of shit. And now they're more willing to listen to anyone who's
saying you're full of shit. And you can sit here and just mock the times that they listen to
someone who's not getting it right. And oftentimes by someone who's being very sloppy or is a
charlatan or something like that. But still,
how can you not look at it in that situation and go, why does this wife assume her husband's
cheating on him and go, oh, because he is. That's why. Because she has every reason to have lost
trust in this marriage. It's just like it's disgusting to watch them just pick on people
this way. All right, guys, let's take a moment them just pick on, you know, people this way.
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Two days after the 2020 election, Clarence Thomas' wife, Ginny, who met Clarence back in the 1980s when they did porn together.
She forwarded text to the chief of staff of the president of the United States saying that she heard that the Biden crime family and ballot fraud co-conspirators were going to be taken to barges off Guantanamo Bay to face military tribunals.
And then she wrote, I hope this is true.
Yes.
And I hope you get checked for lead poisoning.
All right, so just pause it right there.
Think about how pathetic this is.
Like how much you have to hit the bottom of the barrel before he's going, a Supreme Court justice's wife
bought into a goofy conspiracy theory.
What?
I've never in the history of me following politics
ever heard anyone bring up the political opinions of a Supreme Court justice's husband or wife.
Never heard that. Can any of you remember a time that that became an issue? That's what you're
going to as you sit as the guy who sent covid positive patients into nursing homes, giggles with you.
Oh, these people believe anything about the criminal nature of politicians. It's just so ridiculous.
No, that's the topic to talk about when you have Andrew Cuomo there.
Does it talk about how dumb some lady, some civilian lady's take is?
But what?
Because she's married to a conservative justice who you don't like.
So you're going to try to smear her to get him.
Who cares what text she sent?
Who cares what she believes?
What is?
Oh, OK.
Here's the thing. Any adult who wants to have the important conversation, all these people tend to believe
the political class is criminal. Huh? Why do they believe that? Well, I've got a couple of members of the
political class here. Oh yeah. They're both clearly criminals. Okay. Like what do you,
what is this? Just mock people for having the theory wrong. That's just like ridiculous.
Again, while Andrew Cuomo was saying that anyone who didn't want to destroy
the country was killing grandma, he was literally killing grandmas. But oh my God,
Clarence Thomas's wife is goofy. That's the story. That's the big one that really matters.
I don't know. What can you say about this, Rob? I think we can all trust that Clarence Thomas is smart enough not to listen to his wife.
Got it all the way to the Supreme Court.
You think he's at home and he's listening to his wife and that's what's changing his mind?
Come on.
Oh, geez.
All right.
What a standard that if you're a professional and your wife's gone batshit crazy,
you're a professional and uh you know and your wife's gone batshit crazy like that you're responsible or that that influences your decisions at your ceo job or otherwise and not even like by
the way i don't even know how they got this but not even gave a speech or wrote an op-ed but sent
a text message yeah i don't know the context of that it could have been a joke for all we know
but i just mean yeah well like but even if she's serious i just mean it's not like she was putting this out there to the world
is like here's an argument the the you know thomas family stands behind this this is the piece i'm
but it's nothing like a text message also good for clarence thomas he's got a white crazy bitch
wife that's like you know you know how much fun she must be like he spends the whole week he's
got to read through all these papers,
and then he gets to go home and party with this lady.
She's probably a good time.
People say the American dream's dead, but look, Clarence Thomas, he's living it.
All right, let's keep playing.
Then there's America's Karen,
Martha Ann Alito, wife of Justice Samuel Alito, who holds a master's degree in library science and yet has devoted her life to waging war against neighborhood lawn signs.
Martha Ann rants about getting even with the media, not realizing that now kooks like her are the media.
not realizing that now, kooks like her are the media.
A recent study found that a mere 2,100 people accounted for spreading 80% of the fake news on Twitter
during the last election,
and most of them were older, white, Republican women.
Oh, well, here, pause it right there.
Let me explain that for you. This statistic is complete bullshit.
Who measured fake news? Like, what is this? The entire corporate media lined up to tell us that
Hunter Biden's laptop was a Russian op. I bet. Let me just take a wild guess that didn't get counted as fake news in this survey.
Just shut up. This is just all so stupid.
Now, I mean, you know, he's talking about during the election.
So that's why I went to the Hunter Biden one.
But come on. In 2020, the greatest purveyors of misinformation and more importantly, misinformation that had catastrophic ramifications.
Come on. I agree with Bill Maher. Old white women are not worth listening to. I agree. Just come out and say it
like, you know, let's be dismissive of women past their prime. Come on. Bill Maher is pushing the
idea that old white women should be listened to. And that's the most discredited conspiracy theory
on the face of the earth. What are you out of your mind, Bill Maher? Why are you pushing this idea that any of these opinions
matter? But again, it's just so crazy to me that the examples are spouses of justices. It's just
so goofy. All right, let's keep playing. The Russian troll bot army, and it's your Aunt Bonnie.
army and it's your Aunt Bonnie.
That's who it is.
Yentas who post all day and it's always a retweet and it's always
wrong. They watch lies
on TV and believe it because it's TV
and then post it to their friends who
believe it because it's Facebook.
Can we just pause for a second?
It's such a wild perspective to pretend
that only Fox News exists. Yeah, it's like it's like he's living in a world where every channel
is Fox News. And so he's the one dissenter commentating on the fact that we live in a
culture where every old lady watches Fox News and has, you know, crazy extreme Republican opinions.
Yeah. Well, look, I mean, and he's even had,
he had when Russell Brand was on his show
and called out that MSNBC guy to his face
and was like, well, why is it that,
or maybe it was a CNN guy.
It was like, what lie did CNN spread?
And he goes, Joe Rogan was taking horse dewormer.
And even Bill Maher was like,
he doesn't have a point on that.
You guys did like, what?
Like, do you, I mean, i mean look fox news is i'm not
defending fox news i mean like i yeah fox news is terrible on a lot of different issues and they're
certainly if you judge them over the last 20 or 30 years they've been like a propaganda farm
that has pushed out tons of misinformation but like okay like cnn and nbc and abc and the ap and the new
york times and the washington post and reuters and all these places exist too they've all been
guilty of it freaking glenn greenwald had to leave the intercept which glenn greenwald founded
he had to leave it because they were so freaking uh one-sided and propagandistic
what are we talking
about here it's a weird game that both fox and cnn like to pretend like the other one doesn't exist
or that they don't they don't exist yeah yeah yeah yeah that's right all right let's keep playing
but also x formerly known as twitter and fox news formerly known as news.
A study once found that using the Fox News website as a news source made you less informed
than watching no news at all.
It's the Ozempic of knowing things.
Not a bad joke.
Ozempic, it's like you're not, the idea
is like you're not really getting healthy.
Like you're not really learning
things. You feel like you're
diet and exercising. You lost 100 pounds on Zempik
and you're over the age of 65.
You're saying that that's not a net positive?
I don't
know enough about the science.
You overthink these things. All right, let's keep
playing. And still not as bad as the news finds me people. Yeah, that's the growing cohort of
Americans who believe that the story is important enough it will find its way to their social media
feed. Yeah, these are people who trust their Facebook friends to watch Hannity for them.
Yeah, these are people who trust their Facebook friends to watch Hannity for them.
But here's the thing.
With kids, when they get lost to the insanity of social media, we can, and increasingly,
schools, districts are doing this, taking away their phones for at least part of the day.
But you can't take away a 70-year-old's phone.
You can just make the text smaller so we have to
figure out why so many seniors are so susceptible to fake news now part of it
is unlike the kids they didn't grow up with bullshit media corporate funded
narrative driven and completely partisan so when that came along
they had no immunity for it boomers we grew up with old school time magazine and walter cronkite
closest thing to fake news back then was pretending liberace was looking for a woman
let's just pause it for a second like Like, dude, you guys got lied into the Vietnam War.
You got, look at the Kennedy assassination and the whole cover up of that thing.
I mean, you guys got lied to about all of the most important shit.
Don't give me this.
This is such a ridiculously blue-pilled, ignorant fucking take.
Fake news is new misinformation
is new and what like it's it's one of these things you know it um it it reminds me a little
bit of uh some of the arguments that the hardcore zionists will make when they'll be like uh you
know they'll be like well i mean they lie about the history so they'll be like, you know, they'll be like, well, I mean, they lie about the history. So
they'll be like, oh, you know, the Palestinians aren't mad that we kicked them out of their homes.
I mean, sure, they all still go around holding their keys to those homes. But it's not the fact
that we kicked them out of their homes and then we started living in themselves. It's not the fact
that we kicked them onto refugee camps. It's not the fact that we military militarily occupied those refugee camps. It's just that they hate Jews and they hate a Jewish state. And they just they're
so possessed by and look, Egypt doesn't want them either. And and Jordan doesn't want them either.
And look, it is nobody wants them. They're just these. And like the implication is what that I
guess they're just so possessed by evil that you know know what I mean? I guess that's it.
It's like, why in Bill Maher's worldview did people turn away from the corporate media?
He's talking about older people.
Why is it that they turned away from just trusting NBC nightly news?
Why is it?
Is it just because they're so stupid and dangerous and they're just or is it
that those guys lost their trust and and the truth is that this is all the wrong way to look at well
back in the day we the thing is they just never developed any um mechanism by which to deal with
fake news because they grew up in a world where all news was true i mean listen by the way the fact that we were lied into the vietnam war we don't have time now
we're running out of time here but we we can talk about it some other time this is by the way go
look into it blatantly lied into the war as much if not more than wmds in iraq just a lot so what
do you mean the news never got it wrong? They lied into a war where millions of
Vietnamese and Cambodians were killed, and tens of thousands of American soldiers got killed after
being conscripted into a lie that was based off of lies, sold off of lies. What? What do you mean
the news never got anything wrong? Anyway, this is why, we'll wrap it up there, but this is why Bill Maher gets his whole worldview wrong,
is that these guys still do on a fundamental level think,
if we just had a consolidation,
like if we just still had this monopoly
on the flow of information,
we could make sure only the good information gets out.
All you got to do is, and someone like Bill Maher,
who was to some degree, not like us, but to some degree was a dissident on the COVID insanity. Like Bill Maher,
what do you think would have happened if only NBC and CNN could have had control of the information
during COVID? Would that have been better or worse? I'll take the fact that we have to deal
with some wild conspiracy
theories out there to say at least you could have voices telling the truth out there, too.
All right, we're going to wrap up on that. Rob, we'll be out. You're out this weekend. You said
right, Rob. Porchdoor.com. All sorts of dates all summer long. Come hang out. Porchdoor.com.
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