Part Of The Problem - War Without Propaganda

Episode Date: July 30, 2025

Dave Smith brings you the latest in politics! On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave and Robbie "The Fire" Bernstein discuss the turning point for the starvation and war in Gaza, Joe Rogan allegedly refusing to have Benjamin Netanyahu on his show, and more.Support Our Sponsors:CrowdHealth - https://www.joincrowdhealth.com/promos/potpKalshi - https://www.kalshi.com/daveMoink - https://www.moinkbox.com/potpMonetary Metals - https://www.monetary-metals.com/potp/Part Of The Problem is available for early pre-release at https://partoftheproblem.com as well as an exclusive episode on Thursday!ROB LIVE DATES HERE:PORCH Tour: www.porchtour.comFind Run Your Mouth here:YouTube - http://youtube.com/@RunYourMouthiTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/run-your-mouth-podcast/id1211469807Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4ka50RAKTxFTxbtyPP8AHmFollow the show on social media:X:http://x.com/ComicDaveSmithhttp://x.com/RobbieTheFireInstagram:http://instagram.com/theproblemdavesmithhttp://instagram.com/robbiethefire#libertarianSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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links. By the way, if you have any, if you're in the live chat, if you'd like to join the live chat or watch the show live or get the members only episode, we do four episodes a week. Make sure to sign up over at part of the problem.com little light on topics today. So we'll definitely take some questions if you got any questions or Speaker 0 4m 32s the Epstein story, just the work like the administration. If you stay tuned to the end, your own is going to fall off your skull. You're going to have to find it on the floor. And that we should start doing that every episode. And then at the end we Your own jaw is going to fall off your skull. You're going to have to find it on the floor. And that we should start doing that every episode.

And then at the end we go, I am sorry. It's going to be next, next episode till the next administration. When you vote us back into office, we'll have it for you. If you have any, any questions or topics that you'd like us to cover, feel free to throw those in the chat. Natalie grab any questions if you see them and we'll, we'll get into some of that. I was, so I, you know, there was this shooting in Midtown, Manhattan yesterday and I was, I was in Manhattan when it happened. And so I, and you know, I grew up in New York city, so I know the city pretty well. And I will tell you, it's

a real New York moment where I just, I was down, I don't know, it was in Midtown. So I know the city pretty well. And I will tell you, it's a real New York moment where I just, I was down, I dunno, it was in midtown. So I was like 20 blocks south of there. And I just, I was in my Uber coming in and I just, you could tell, there were just the number of cop cars that were going. It was like, oh, this is a thing. Cause you could see, you could see cop cars rushing somewhere anytime in New York city, but there's, there's a certain amount of them where you were like, Oh, a whole thing is going down something. And then it's a, I guess it was, this was

around 7 30 PM last night. I saw that it was reported that they had arrested a guy in a Palestine shirt. And we were joking about that on the skanks last night. And then I did not see until today. So I just spent last night. And then this morning thinking without reading or looking into it, like that's what happened. It was some type of Palestinian activists went and shot some people up. It turns out that does not appear to be the story or that is not what they are reporting. Now it evidently was something about a guy targeting the NFL offices over CTE allegations or something. Who knows?

You know, sometimes what gets reported right after these shootings turns out to not be very accurate information, but it did. I mean, look, it turns out evidently they just arrested a guy who was wearing a Palestine shirt and then realized he had nothing to do with any of it, which is hilarious profiling in a way. But it did what, at least when I was thinking that that's what happened, it did kind of remind me of something I have been saying for a long time for the last couple of years. I've said many times on the show is that I really am worried about that. And I think that there is like, I think the environment is ripe for blowback terrorism.

And I think it's a, it's a real concern. I'm, you know, I think in a lot of ways like Scott Horton's made this point a bunch, like we're just kind of lucky that Ben Laden is dead and that there's just no figure that really rallies the G hottests quite like they had that in the nineties and early two thousands. But goddamn, it's like, if we, if we really do keep up this policy for much longer, it is a real risk that we're, that we're going to deal with some type of like terrorist attacks here, you know, as revenge. So anyway, I think that's what always was motivating the terrorism

problem that America had. And we've done a, we've done a lot more gasoline on that fire. So anyway, that was the thought that was in my head. Luckily it turned out not to be that. You know what? I can't make this joke. Back to you, Dave. Oh man. It's so, you don't hear that for me. It's so rare that Rob will actually go now. You know what? I got to stop myself. Got to stop myself on that one. All right. Sorry. Here. I was just trying to look at the, the live stream. If you've got any questions, go ahead and throw them in the chat and we will get back to it. It does seem to me like, I don't know if you've like, you know, felt

this Rob, but it does seem to me like there is, I, you know, I was talking about this like the last time I was on Pierce Morgan and not even my own segment, just talking about watching the other debate that was happening before me. And it does seem like there is like this kind of critical mass that's being reached where people are just fucking over fucking supporting this thing. And that is just like, it's just too long. It's just too fucked up. It's too indefensible.

And every day there's another story that just, you know, like you're, you know, you really are like, there's, I was seeing, I don't know if you saw Rob, but there was a, you know, like there was a much, there's been a few, obviously there's been a ton of images out of Gaza over the last couple of years, but there's been a couple, particularly in the last couple of weeks of like, you know, like babies and little kids who are like starving to death. And I'm watching on Twitter, the, the pro Israel people like trying to defend this. And their claim is that they're like, no, this is, this is a baby who has some genetic disease or something like that. This isn't a baby who's starving. And it's

like, you look who the hell knows what that one particular kid was, you know, like I'm not claiming I know, but like you're just like, look at the argument, like zoom out for a little bit and look what you're arguing. Now you're literally sitting there going like, no, like starving corpses isn't evidence of anything. Like, this is the argument that the Jewish state is making is that you're like, Oh no, these piles of corpses. That's no, you can't use that to form any conclusion. You're like, really? Is that, is that right now? And it's anyway, there's just a very, there's a strange dynamic where it does seem like this. It's almost like, you know, there

are certain things say immigration, I think is a good example of that. I do think the woke, the crazy woke shit is a good example where there are these like topics where there might be someone who's still debating it, but like the debate is over. The debate, you know, this was one of the points that I made when I was debating Alex, um, uh, no, no, watched, uh, um, at, at Soho forum was I was just like, look, we could have this debate, but like, just so we're clear here,

the debate is over. The American people have already decided where they stand on this. And it does seem like we're entering that phase of us support for what Israel's doing to Gaza, where it's just like, dude, um, Mike Huckabee was furious with Israel, uh, last week. Um, Michael moles at the daily wire came out and was like, I'm done. This is it. I can't, this is too far for me. I can't support him anymore. And the, now the, the, um, the starvation crisis is like widely reported and accepted by everyone except Netanyahu, everyone else.

Netanyahu is the only one left saying that nobody's starving in, in Gaza. Even Trump admitted there was serious starvation in Gaza. You know, I say he's the only one. I mean, I guess like, you know, maybe some people in his war cabinet, but like nobody else is, is covering for this. And then at the same time, wall support for this has collapsed. And it almost like parallels the Epstein thing a little bit, but wall support for this has collapsed. There was just a, a great piece. Dave DeKamp wrote on antiwar.com today. If you go to antiwar.com today, it's right up at the top, the top one or two articles on there. But now while the support has collapsed, Benjamin Netanyahu is preparing plans to annex Gaza. Like they're actually, they are committed

to doing this, but they're going to take Gaza, make it part of Israel and kick all the Palestinians out. And I don't know, you know, I'm, you know, like even it's almost like all the signs point to, yeah, they're actually getting ready to do that. And still on some part of me, I'm kind of like, dude, there's no way they're actually going to be that brazen to just do this when global opinions already turned so far against them. So I don't know, but it seems like they're going through with this. And I really wonder what the reaction to all of

that's going to be at a point where it's become so transparently obvious that this whole thing is so evil, and that the Israelis are lying through their teeth and that they're not and that they're not waging a war against Hamas or a war to get their Their hostages back that they're waging a war against the people of Gaza to annex and ethnically cleanse the strip What is the reaction of that actually look like? You know you you called pretty early on Rob in this war that like Israel's not going to be able to get away with this. You know, I'm always like thinking in the same way, like Israel's like in terms of PR, not in terms of actual policy, but like they're just not.

And that's kind of what I'm thinking with this too. Like this is just, Oh my God, if you think it's bad now, man, the level of hatred for Israel, if they do this is going to be off the charts. Alright guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Moink Box. I love this company. What they do is great and simple and it's a much needed service. If you're anything like me, you don't really like the meat that you get at the supermarket. And if you're anything like me, you don't really trust it. I feel much more comfortable getting meat from local family farms.

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All right. Let's get back into the show. Yeah, I think the wheel has turned and that the Internet's undefeated and sometimes they just get their hooks into a storyline. You just saw it with the Coldplay concert that just kind of captured everyone's imagination and everyone's on top of it. The Epstein story right now in whatever way they kind of blundered with the binders and claiming that they had great stuff for you and then said, nope, nothing to see here. Everyone's all on board with it.

Everyone wants an answer. And that's why your mainstream even Republican senators are going Yeah, we got to get the information out. I hear from from that old that the old Kennedy guy I hear from Josh Hawley. It's just across the board They're kind of saying the administration's got to figure this one out and we're gonna need some transparency And I saw a big shift in the reporting this past week where it's across the board images from Gaza and reports of the hunger crisis that's going on there and you know there

haven't even really been mainstream like that many pictures because I think you're not it's not that easy to report out of Gaza but some of like the horrifying images that you're seeing now of people fighting each other essentially for food and by fighting I don't mean like they're fist fighting I mean it's just kind of like mob pushing to the front trying to get some food. But once kind of like the internet takes notice of something to the point that the mainstream media companies have to report on it, it becomes nearly impossible to dodge. I mean, just think about the way the mainstream media was able to sell COVID for two years

and how many to the population bought into that. And now this is a true story and you're seeing actual information about it. So I do think the wheel is turning. I think you're going to see more pressure applied to Israel to actually make the situation better for the people that are living there. And I think they're going to have a hard time selling it as the, the moral, just a war of just going after Hamas that are savages and can't live next to us.

Yeah, no, all great points. And I think that, you know, you can't there, you know, even during say during COVID, like you talked about the two years where they were selling that even that, I mean, it did, it required like a tremendous amount of tech censorship. And you know, the fact was that, and we were there, I mean, we were in this world. It was like, even for the people who maybe didn't get completely banned and kicked off, it was like, they were very effective at creating an environment where you knew

you were really risking something by talking about this stuff. Like, and you know, and that, you know, I mean, it's, I guess we have to run the counterfactual, but certainly the fact that they were doing that censorship indicates that they believed it was very important to do. And I, I would agree with them on, on that, you know, we could, we can't run the counterfactual, but it is interesting. Like, could they have gotten away with as much as they got away with if the internet wasn't censored like that and people really were free to speak out against them? And like, that seems to be the environment that Israel like, like that is a huge part of what kind of just got the toothpaste out of the tube on this whole thing

was like, it's just the, the controls weren't working anymore. And so there were just people out there just exposing this shit constantly. And then that became, there was such interest in that type of content that it did just become, you know, I don't think, I don't think Pierce Morgan builds his gigantic show the way he has, if he wasn't just constantly having debates about this topic. Like that's the thing that people want to talk about. And in that environment where you, where you really have this uncontrolled media, it's almost impossible I think to sell a policy like this.

I mean, it's like, think about what the policy itself actually is. I mean, it's essentially like up to reporting today. Like I was just pointing to the plan here is what just to destroy got just to destroy the Gaza strip with two plus million people inside it while you're doing it to level 80% of the buildings, bomb the rubble, kill people by the tens of thousands, maybe end up in the hundreds of thousands when this is all said and done. Maybe we're already there. And then ethnically cleanse and annex the territory is like, that's a tough policy to

sell man. Like there is no military on the other side of this. There's no war. There's no like, how do you even sell this? They committed a terrorist attack. So we're allowed to be terrorists for two years. That's your cell. That's very, very tough when you got people who are, who are out there opposing it freely. So yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's been in, if nothing else, it's been a real interesting experiment that's been run. I don't mean to say that in a way that's disrespectful to like the real people whose lives have been destroyed over it, but running this like kind of experiment of can the, can the us government get away with, um, with facilitating, uh, the destruction of a people when they don't

have control of the propaganda. Like, you know what I mean? Like what happens when you run that experiment? And that's a very fascinating experiment to run. And it turns out that it turns out it does really make a big difference. It does really make it like there's a reason why regimes invest so much in propaganda is that shit really does work. Okay. Here we got a question from the chat. Dave, how do you feel about Joe Rogan refusing to have BB nets and Yahoo on his podcast? Um, well, I would say that we, the public do not know what exactly happened. Uh, there it's that, um,

I dunno, did you see Rob that Benjamin Netanyahu's son tweeted about how Joe Rogan refuses to have his dad on cause he couldn't stand up to him and he would stand up to all his anti-Semitic something. And I, you know, my, my first thought on it was just like, it is, you know, as I've said many times over the last couple of years, it is baffling to me how bad the Israelis are at, at selling this thing. It's like, that's your angle. Like even if you were trying to get met and you're trying to get your father on Joe Rogan. So like that's your thing to just call him a Jew hater and say he's a coward for not having them on. Like, why, why would you be trying to just push the most influential guy in America away from you? Like that just

seems really stupid. Now look, let's say if it's true that, you know, Hey, look, I'd say, do it, bring me. I'll go, I'll go to, I'll go to debate Netanyahu on, on JRA. But I don't know. I, you know, I don't like with all these things, I don't think there is a correct or incorrect answer. I could completely understand why someone wouldn't want to talk to Netanyahu. I think it would be interesting if he did have them on and me being there or

not, I think, I think Joe would do just fine with him, but you know, by himself. Um, uh, Joe is really, really good at interviewing people and he's really, really good at, um, at calling out bullshit, uh, which seems, he makes it seem like that's very easy, but that stuff isn't very easy. It's a real, uh, skill that he's phenomenal at. So I, I, you know, like, I'd be like, Hey, do it, you know, expose them. But I can also understand just not even wanting to talk to that guy.

There's like, there is, there's just, there's a level of evil to all this shit that I understand. I always understand people just not wanting to be too close evil to all this shit that I understand. I always understand people just not wanting to be too close to that. But I don't know. Do you got any thoughts rub? I saw the headline and I did not dig into the story, but just my, my snapshot is that Rogan is absolutely incredible. If he sniff some bullshit and he wants to prod at it and not let you off the hook and his willingness to sit in that discomfort and kind of own the discomfort and be like,

you're not going to bully me out of having this inquiry. Uh, but I would say the flavor of the show is more that he likes to have people on that he wants to hear out. And he thinks has a fascinating story that he wants to hear about less than he seems to want to have people on specifically to debunk them. That's not really the show that he does. And I know originally he didn't want to have Donald Trump on for a period of time because he felt like it would be an endorsement, I believe.

And he didn't want to just kind of give Trump free run to pitch his madness. And I think once Kamala was so bad and Donald Trump had been shot at, and when there are all those other stories, it became more interesting for him to have Trump on and hear him out. And it was a little bit more of an endorsement to allow him to come onto the show and you know, be Trump and be charming and have the two hours. So I can understand why, especially as he's already done the Douglas Murray thing, and I don't think Nitzan, I would agree for you to be there. I don't think that, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,'s not happening. I can just understand that it's not really the flavor of Rogan show to be like, Hey, I'm going to have this person on just so I can give them a hard time.

And I don't know that that's not really what he does. So it kind of makes sense to me that he wouldn't want to do it. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's a, that's a good point. And you know, I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point.

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and they're upset about it. You know, like who, I mean, unless he's just making the whole thing up, but like there's just something really interesting about that. That's they kind of know like it's such an admission in a way that it's like, shit, we're losing American support. We gotta get control of this narrative back. We don't have our propaganda apparatus and where do we have to go? We have to go to Austin, Texas to sit down with Joe Rogan. Cause that's like the thing that the site that's the biggest thing you can do to move the needle or whatever. Your study would have him on if you really want to do a, you know, mainstream alternative

media, go on talker. He's not, I don't think he's going to do that. you know, mainstream alternative media, go on Tucker. He's not, I don't think he's going to do that. I don't think he's going to do that because Tucker Tucker will have someone on just to expose them and Tucker has in the same way that, you know, like for, for Rogan, I think it was a, you know, like COVID and the, and, and, you know, the, the insanity of the COVID regime and, and the fraudulent nature of the vaccine and all this stuff that Joe really took an interest in

that and really read up on it really knew his shit and also he was personally attacked by the corporate media in a Really vicious way and so that was like a thing that he was really on And in that same set like if you had tried, you know when dr. Gupta went on his show Joe Rogan fucking humiliated that guy You know with dr. Gupta, Maybe I don't remember this correctly. I don't remember group to going after him until Gupta said, why don't you just go ahead and get a vaccine? And he goes, well, I already, I already did. I mean, he's like, I already had COVID.

Why would I get it? And then that kind of really like, although he did call him out for them. Yeah. He wasn't a Dick to him, but he did hold his feet to the fire and call out his network and he really embarrassed. Right over the eye. Nothing. Yes. Yes.

Yeah. The horse dewormer nonsense. But so, you know, the thing is, I think Tucker would be like that with Benjamin Netanyahu. Like I think, I think Tucker is like, Tucker's already said stuff about how, you know, he's directly called the Israeli government to tell them to stop attacking him. He was threatened, you know, kind of by the former Israeli prime minister. He's like, it's, I think it's become personal to him and he knows his stuff. And I think he would, that would go very, very bad for BB

if he were to go on Tucker show. So I don't think we'll be seeing that, but would, that would go very, very bad for BB, if he were to go on Tucker's show. So I don't think we'll be seeing that, but man, that would be really great. I would love to see that one. All right guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Crowd Health, long time sponsor of this podcast. I love this company.

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it's the, you know, there's a debate about it. Like I always, I guess I, I always kind of, I'm on the side, my, my de facto, like my, my starting point is like, yeah, the more the better, you know, just like, yeah, do the shows. Maybe one's a little bit friendly or maybe one's a little more confrontational, but whatever. Get, just get more, more speech, more content, more on the record statements from these guys. Um, that being said, you know, I, I can certainly understand why some people wouldn't want to do it. Um, and you know, there are, there's, you know, there's nuance to, to all of these things. Like I always think,

I always tend to be on the side of interviewing, um, uh, of platforming to borrow a term I don't particularly like, but I'm always on the side of like having the leaders of, of enemy countries on, like if there's a conflict or there's about to be a war or we're, we're building up toward, you know, some type of confrontation. I think it's always better to like hear from the other side, like, cause you want to, you always want more, more perspective, more information. Uh, cause almost all wars are sold out on lies, you know?

And so like your, your own government, you're getting propaganda from your own government. Now you're going to get propaganda from their government, but at least you see where the other propaganda lines up. And maybe that could lead to an off ramp where it doesn't have to be a war. There is something kind of different about interviewing a foreign leader of a supposed ally who is trying to bring us in into their wars. That is a little bit of a different dynamic. You know what I mean? So like, who is trying to bring us in into their wars. That is a little bit of a different dynamic. You know what I mean?

So like, I don't know. I certainly understand why, you know, people wouldn't want to talk to Netanyahu. And then I also do think, and again, this is not anything I've talked to Joe about, but I do think that you're, you know, it's there, there are incentives to just not do it. Like there's your, you're sticking your hand in a hornet's nest and you're going to piss off a lot of people no matter what, like no matter what, if you do

it, you're going to piss off people who think you weren't hard enough. You're going to piss off people who think you were too hard. You're going to piss. It's just, it is kind of, um, there's, there's a lot of costs I think to doing it. And from what I saw, um, which I, you know, I guess we, we kinda, or I kind of stood up for him a little bit, uh, on that podcast, but evidently the NELC boys had taken like all types of flack from their own audience over it. Like their own audience was furious at him and they had to like basically, basically do an apology video. Like he said, I'm not apologizing, but then did an apology video essentially about it.

Did you see that? What I'm talking about? I did see an interview in a car when he said that they were given questions to ask and they went off script, but it seemed like, you know, they walked into an intimidating room. Everything was already set up. You got all sorts of people standing around in suits. And I guess the expectation was for an even more, an even more just give me interview than what, what took place. You know, I've heard people say that like evidently this is a thing that's done a lot when

you interview, um, like, you know, heads of state or, you know, high ranking political figures that they'll come and their people will give you like a sheet with bullet points on it. That'll be like, these are all the administration's accomplishments. Let's talk about all of these things or whatever. And I think, I mean, I saw, um, I, uh, Sager and, and jetty, uh, said that he's like, he interviewed Trump a few times and he said he'd get things like that.

And he goes, you know, if you're a professional, you just go, Oh, thank you very much. And then you put that to the side and then you do whatever you were going to do anyway. Um, but you know, it sounded at least like the way they were saying that was they did. They kind of said like, we did break from the script, but you're like, Oh, but that's kind of an admission that you're saying like, like in order to break from it, you must have been on it at one point. And so I do think, and just from the way they were describing it,

they were talking about how intimidating the situation was and how there's all these guys in suits and blah, blah, blah. And it's like, Oh dude, they handed you a script and you started reading from that script that I will say, and I was defending those guys. That's bad. You really can't do that. There's something about that. That is almost like, I don't mean this in like the strict legal sense, but in, in some ways you're like committing fraud when you do that. You know what I mean? Like you're, you're there's there. I do think that there's an implicit contract in some way. Again, I'm not saying this in like a legal sense, but I just feel like, like in terms of what my like ethical obligation is to my

audience, I think when I'm talking to you right now, there is an implicit like statement that someone else did not give me a script to read. You're hearing from me. These are my real thoughts. And that you really don't want to be in the situation where you're interviewing a foreign leader and they gave you a script that you're reading from. Like you're not even asking the questions you want to ask. You're asking the questions they would like you to ask so they can set them up. And it's like that's, and it does make you wonder like, Oh man, how, so how much of what you said in that thing was just the script? Like did, did Netanyahu was the burger king thing

in there or was that you guys, you know? So anyway, I'll also say you can't listen in life. You just, you can't do everything. And like, if you were to look at, let's say Fauci during COVID, let's say I was just your average layman and I knew I'm not that comfortable getting the vaccine. I think this guy's lying to me doing, and then you get the offer to have Fouch on your podcast. If you want to do that podcast, well, you now got to do an extreme amount of homework to actually catch it. It's different than like, let's say you were pro green energy and you liked the Biden administration's plan for windmills and you get like the, the energies are on, you don't really have to

prepare for that. You're interested in, Oh, they're interested in green energy. I can hear this lady out on what they're trying to do. Whereas if you think it's a scam, you can't just go, well, I don't think that's true. You're going to have to actually like research like how much wattage is needed, how much it's caught. Like you need to know a lot of information to debunk something and conduct an interview. And so if you're Joe Rogan, you're having Netanyahu on amidst all the programming that you're doing and everything that you're doing, unless you're allowed to have someone like you on or someone else who can kind of fact check live, which is not the show he typically does.

That's a very difficult interview to do because you're not actually interested in what the guy's doing as much as you want to see if you can catch him or get him to actually explore, you know what I mean? And so it's just, it's, it's a different show. That's not really what he does. So I kinda, well, while I agree with you, it's nice to, if you can get these people on the record, if you know that you don't really have this skillset or you don't want to take the time to do the prep so that you can actually catch someone that you think is

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did sound like a, what's it called? That did sound like he was a robot. Okay. Question, Dave, when I was a kid and I went to Israel, like maybe, I don't know, I must've been like nine or 10 years old. You know, my family had all these religious excursions, plan, sing all the sites and scenes and spending a whole life eating kosher. All I wanted to do was go to burger King and McDonald's and yeah. And I even remember I came home with like these placemats from burgers and Mc like burger King McDonald's. And my grandfather was a very smart, well-read guy. And he's like, I can't believe you brought your kids to the other side of the world. Just so he could get excited about McDonald's. But with all that said, I remember not liking

the really funny bigger. Yeah. And liking burger King. Really? I liked burger King. Absolutely. When I was a kid, I did not eat fast food. I went all the way to Israel and I had McDonald's one night and burger King four nights. Cause I think my parents tried going to other places and I was just like, no, I'm eating another burger from burger kids. It's hilarious. Not just to be like halfway around the world, but also like the because I think my parents tried going to other places and I was just like, no, I'm eating another burger from Burger King. It's hilarious. Not just to be like halfway around the world, but also like the birthplace of the three major religions.

Like it's just a hilarious place to be like, I'm not, I did not. I'm not trash and Burger King. I'm not trash Burger King Burger King solid. I like McDonald's more, but Burger King is solid. I, uh, I can't really eat any of it anymore, but I did always. And, but even if I did, like if I went to Burger King right now, I would, I would enjoy it. Like by the time I'm back in my car, I wouldn't, but I'd, I would go and enjoy some Burger King right now. It'd be a horrible rest of the day, but

that part, that part would be fun. Okay. So Jay asked, what are your thoughts on Lex Friedman cutting out one hour of the Scott Horton podcast? That actually reminds me, I'm supposed to, yeah, I, you know, so Lex addressed it on, on Twitter yesterday and I had posted a thing that I thought he had a good response. And you know, I like, you know, it was something about how, you know, basically they went five hours. He, he edited one of the hours out because like he said, he thought the tone of the debate or something like that was, I forget his exact word, but then he said, me and Scott are recording a solo episode later this week and I'm diving deep into all his stuff.

So I kind of felt like, you know, Lex is, I like, like he's always been cool to me. And I think that's great that he's having Scott back on. So I, I was just kind of like, yeah, okay. That's cool. I certainly, you know, I, I understand why it bothered Scott. And he said, particularly because he, I guess he, there was one point where Scott said, he, he said, you know, which I've, no, I've had this experience too. But he, you know, which I know I've had this experience too. Um, but he, you know, said a bunch of stuff, none of it about the Jews, but a bunch of stuff about Israel and the neo conservatives or whatever. And then the guy just goes, Oh yeah, more, more about the

Jews. And he said that, I guess the way he edited it, like he did, he edited out what Scott said and then edited out Scott's response to that. And he's like, dude, you left the part where the guy calls me an antisemite and cut out my response to it. And so, you know, I think that, look, I think Lex is a good dude. I'm glad he's going to have Scott back on. I'm looking forward to watching that show. I think it'll be a great one and a great audience for Scott to get in front of. I don't want, you know, I want to facilitate that being a really good show. So I'm not trying to like get in a thing with Lex and, and whatever. Like I said, I like him. Uh, I do think generally speaking,

the, that debate should not be edited at all. I was like, oh, bullshit to me. Yeah. If you're like, it's I've never, I don't think ever had one edited, but I would certainly be upset if I went and did a debate and they cut part of it out. You'd be like, yo, no, no, no, no, no. You don't cut that part out. Like that happened. That was part of it out. You're like, yo, no, no, no, no, no, no. You don't cut that part out. Like that happened. That was part of it. And you know, as again, it's like we're doing shows on the internet. There's just no reason not to, there's no reason to not just put

the full thing out there. And like, if it, you know, if it got tense or it devolved or you think it wasn't productive, it's like, okay, but I think people should still see that. And that's what happened. You know? Um, I just think in general, uh, that should be, that should be like the standard practice in our industry. Is that like you come here, the, the, for me, it goes with that saying I've never, I don't think I've ever expressed this thought to anyone. I mean, like maybe if I was like, uh, if like the New York times or the Washington

post or someone like that was like, uh, you know, asked me to come sit down, uh, for a conversation or something like that, I think I would be like, okay, but I want to record it too and put the whole thing on edited out. But I've never never thought to have to ask that it was not like I ever thought to like say that to Patrick bet David or something like that. But certainly, I would say my expectations say like, wait, if I'm going Patrick but David is hosting a debate for as me for someone else and I'm going there, it, it is my just understanding without it ever being said that like,

this will air in its entirety. Like that would be, and I would think the onus would be on you beforehand to be like, Hey, I'm going to edit this or something like that. So I do think that's just not a, uh, the way to do it. You shouldn't, shouldn't edit debates. And also it doesn't need to be like if there's less, you're censoring and trying to cheat for somebody or you're so committed to a narrative that you don't like something that was said because you think it really destroys the point that you want to get across, which none of that's honest. Well, what I, what bothered me, which I,

again, I said this publicly, what had bothered me. So I didn't know that until later, I guess this was like, uh, like I watched the debate and didn't notice that there was a cut in it. I did, I think, you know, Scott had told me, I think that they did five hours, but I never put it together and went, Oh, there's only four hours here. I just saw it and it was like, Oh, he was wrong. They thought they did five, but they only did four. But what did bother me was I did think, I did think Lex was being a bit unfair of a moderator, and particularly the part which I had mentioned before, where Scott was making the point that, you know, the Adelsons have given Trump hundreds of millions of dollars between, you know, the first,

hundreds of millions of dollars between, you know, the first, between the three presidential campaigns and that at one point Lex like cut him off and goes, no, no, no, we're not going to do that. Like that's that as if it was like a personal attack or something like that. And you're like, dude, the moderator can't do that. That's like moderating malpractice. Like you can't jump for it. That's a totally legitimate topic that he's allowed to like, how could you tell me I'm not allowed, you know, we're going to sit here and debate, you know, environmental policy. And I'm not allowed to point out that you took hundreds of millions of dollars from an energy special interest or something like that. Like what? That's crazy. And the, um, you know, the fact is that again, like, you know, like as, as always, which I don't think I've ever been, correct me if I'm wrong

here, but I don't think I've ever in all the podcasts I've done in all the debates I've done about the topic of say Israel or American foreign policy for that matter. I don't think I've ever once cited an Arab source. Like I don't think I've ever once been like, no, as this Palestinian historian points out, you know, and by the way, that's my own ignorance. And so I'm sure there are great Palestinian historians. I know like of one or two, but I've just never like, those just are never my sources. I'm never like, Oh, but this is what the Egyptians said, or this is what my sources are always what the U S government

people say and what the Israeli government people's like, it's always, it's always their own words. Like you don't have to look at anything else. And I think that in a lot of ways, because that's the more powerful and damning evidence. But again, like Sheldon Adelson said in a speech, I believe it was in Tel Aviv, but he said, have you ever seen this speech where he said that his greatest regret in life was that he served the US Army and not the IDF.

Like his body was, when he died, I'm pretty sure, in life was that he served the U S army and not the IDF. Uh, like his body was when he died, I'm pretty sure that I know that that part's definitely true. Pretty sure his body was flown to Israel after he died. And so, uh, look, that's fine. You're allowed to have whatever regrets you want to. Um, you could say you would wish you had served in the IDF. But like when you're on record saying that, like going, my loyalty is to this government over that my government fine. But I do think then when you're given hundreds of millions of dollars to political candidates and campaigns, that, that, that should be viewed as what it is,

which is essentially a foreign spy donating to write. Like if, if you're on record in your own words, saying that then, okay, your allegiance is with them and that's fine. But then that kind of, I feel like should come with stuff, you know, the, uh, the restrictions or whatever. Like I do, I do, I think it is very reasonable or absurdly reasonable to insist that everybody who serves in government or who contributes vast sums of money to government, uh, that their,

their priority ought to be their country and that if your priority is a different country, then you should not be in those roles. I don't think that's unreasonable. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Cal She. I've been seeing them more and more on social media. If you're like me, you've probably seen them all over the place on social media. I personally have downloaded the app and have been checking it out

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That's Cal she where your gut meets real money. All right, let's get back into the show. Okay, Dave, thoughts on Candace Owens, Macron lawsuit. It's crazy. Macron was delaying Ukraine peace negotiations over it. Well, you like to keep their man lives a secret. It's that is, it does seem to be a trend.. Careful, Rob. They do like to Sue. So that was a satire. I didn't say my own. I just said, typically speaking, if you're an elite, oh yeah, a man wife, you like to keep it a secret. Yes, that is true. This is a general

statement. There are of course exceptions. There are elites who are very proud. You don't even know too many elites with man wives, which is just proof of the fact that they're good at keeping it a secret. That's why I don't hear about it that often. Did it now am I look, I will first disclaim. I don't know anything about this. Like I literally know that Candice has like did like a five hour presentation on it. I haven't watched it, but I know she did that. And I know that they're suing her. And I know that there's a video of that beautiful woman,

like mushing macaroon in the face on the plane. That's about what I know. I do, there is something, there's a quality that Candace Owens has that I just find so endearing, which is her courage. Like she, it, it is crazy how much I just saw her already just doubling down after like, as soon as they're there, like, Oh, they're suing me. She's like this dude suing me for calling him a dude. I mean, she's just like, and there is something

about Candice. Like she's just fearless like that. That just does not, you know, it's like she's got this quality about her where it's almost like, it's like, it's like talking shit to Jordan or something like that. You know, like you, you ever hear those stories about people like, you know, the opposing team and then like the rookie starts talking shit to Michael Jordan and then everyone else on the team is like, no, what are you doing? Don't, you know, you can't do that. You can't do that. Now he's going to put 50 on us. Like there's just, it's like, if you want Candace to shut up, you really better not tell her to shut up. You better

not be like, well, I'm going to call you vicious names. Like all the things that are tactics to shut someone down. She is not like moved by that. And that I, it was kind of like the, uh, uh, Dave Portnoy thing where I remember like two years ago, uh, McCrone responded in New York post saying like, my wife is a female and please stop bringing this up. And I'm like, you're just letting people know that this bothers you. Like you should not even be addressing this. Just addressing this without like lifting up her skirt and being like, look, nothing here. You don't, you're not coming forward with definitive proof. You're actually just kind of bitching yourself out is you acknowledge

that your wife doesn't look like a lady and you were bothered by the fact that the internet has taken notice of that. Yeah. Good luck with less reporting on that or less interest in the story. Now that you've let everyone know that you acknowledge that your wife doesn't necessarily look like a lady and that you're married to an older lady, even though you're a handsome, powerful man, that's a little bit odd. And you're bothered by us pointing it out. All right, we're done. Fair is fair. Politician man. That's a little bit odd. And you're bothered by us pointing it out. All right, we're done. Fair is fair. Politician man.

Yeah, this is it's really, really. It's really, really hilarious. I just really, really poorly handled. It's a tough defamation suit. Like if I were to say, Hey, your restaurant's serving rats and then no one went into the restaurant. And then it was discovered that I'd fabricated the story and now you no longer have a restaurant because everyone thought you were serving rats in there. You got clear financial damages in a world of the progressives where we were supposed to cherish these relationships and we're supposed to cherish that you can be gay. What is the financial loss or what is the problem with being a, why do you have a pride? In other words, you is my Crohn saying he has a problem with people that would be married

to a man wife. Yeah. Well, this is there. It's a tough position to be in being like the part of the progressive elite and now arguing that it's a people. Yes. People believing that you're married to a trans person is inherently damaging to you. Now I get, maybe you can get there somehow and you could, you know,

make that, but it is a pretty awkward position to be in, to be saying that like the other thing is just the very nature of having to go to court to prove that you are a woman. You just, you kind of already lose that game. Like that's not a win, you know? Like that's just the, and then I guess the other, listen, I have no idea what the truth of it is. I'm just probably I'm, I'm Joe six pack on this issue. I, it sounds like a pretty ridiculous claim. Like, come on, there's no way that's actually true. Natalie, but the fact is, well, the fact is, no, please don't Natalie, but the fact, the

fact that can't is like, is going to get to go to court and present her case for why she believes this is kind of amazing. I don't know. People in France already lost a defamation suit. Yes. I think that's, I know. I think they, I thought they won. That's the McCrone family lost the defamation suit. Yes. I believe that's right. Um, And so, you know, like, I don't know again, also, I think that one was in Europe, whereas this one would be under the U S justice legal system. So that I don't know, like if the standards are different over there or, or, or what, but yeah, she's an old hag. She spent too much time in the sun. Leave it alone.

Yeah. He's got to go. He's good. My first witness I'd like to call my wife. She will be complaining for the next 45 minutes. We think it'll be pretty obvious by the end of that. What's what? Yeah. Anyway, it's interesting to see how this goes. Okay. Yo, yo, Dave and Rob, can you get into the claim that the U N is responsible for the blockade in Gaza? If you haven't already, I joined late. Yeah. I don't even know what, I don't know what type of propaganda that is. I I'd have to like hear the argument if you can call it that laid out, but this just ridiculous. I mean, the, the UN has been pretty consistently for, you know, 50 years, 40 years at least,

you know, condemning what Israel does, trying to push toward a two state solution, opposing the apartheid, opposing the blockade. And they're they're bailed out by the US. And that's, you know, that's pretty undeniably the case. I mean, don't get me wrong, the US will also, you know, admit when Hamas is committing war crimes or things like that, but No, I mean it's the the You really just don't have to work that hard to figure out who's responsible for the Israeli blockade around Gaza It's like it's the Israeli military that's enforcing it. It's not the UN. So I think that's kind of

Ridiculous. I don't know any thoughts on any of that Rob? I hadn't seen that storyline, but it doesn't check out to me. Yes. Dave, when are you coming to Porkfest? That's a good question. I don't know about that. I do always had a great time when I was out there though. I would love I will I will maybe not Porkfest, but I will definitely try to get up to new Hampshire sometime soon. Rob always goes up there. I got a new hamster gig in September, I believe September, October playing some dudes mansion. We're going to set up the basement and do it. So come on out for that. And then at some

point I'll be back at the show. There you go. All right, Dave, how about a fat fuck? Randy fine thing. We should nuke Gaza like Japan. Yeah, he's that guy's a fucking monster. I mean, geez, Lindsay Graham just said the same thing the other day too. Is that something we should, Israel should do to Gaza what we did to Germany and Japan. It's, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we have that. Here, yeah, we could play that and then we'll wrap up. Yeah, that's right, we got the video of Lindsey Graham saying that, good call, Natalie. Yeah, here was Lindsey Graham

echoing Randy Fine's statements. President Trump said he told Prime Minister finish the job this week. in touch with President Tr with Israeli officials. Wh is going to happen next. job means Senator? Well, mccain last night. Here's

for the people in Gaza. Humanitarian quarters are now gonna be open. Israel is gonna work with the UN, the World Food Program, to get some food into these people who need it. But I think what the topic we're talking about today is a change in strategy. I think President Trump has come to believe, and I certainly come to believe,

there's no way you're gonna negotiate the end of this war with Hamas. Hamas is a terrorist organization who is chartered to destroy the state of Israel. They're religious Nazis. They hold Israeli hostages. I think Israel's come to conclude that they can't achieve a goal of ending the war

with Hamas that would be satisfactory to the safety of Israel. And if they're going to do in Gaza what we did in Tokyo and Berlin, take the place by force, then start over again, presenting a better future for the Palestinians, hopefully having the Arabs take over the West Bank and Gaza. But I think going forward, Christian, you're going to see a change in tactics, a full military effort by Israel to take Gaza down like we did in Tokyo and Berlin. Senator. Yeah, there you go.

There's now no more Mr. Nice guy. Now they're going to go out. This is what I was talking about earlier saying as support for this is evaporating, they're going even bigger and bigger. It's like, yeah, I, you know, I don't know what, what can you even say? Like this is now you realize there are Hamas is a terrorist organization. So you can't negotiate with them some acknowledgement that, Oh, the people do need food. And then we should take them down like Tokyo and Japan. I mean, what is, what is the reference here? Fire bombing, nuclear weapons. Like, I don't know, but there seems to be no thought. You've got a completely destroyed Gaza and they're, they're talking about ramping it up. It really is

just, I mean, just horrific. Any thoughts, Rob? Well, leave it to Lindsey Graham to be pitching more war, but I guess at least he's being sophisticated enough here to say it's going to be better for the residents of the area, which I'll believe it when I see it. Yeah. Something about dropping bombs on people doesn't usually make them better off. But okay, we will wrap up on that one. Thank you guys very much. Catch you tomorrow, 1 p.m. with a brand new episode.

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