Part Of The Problem - We Are At War With Iran

Episode Date: June 17, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:16 Welcome to a brand new episode of part of the problem. I am Dave Smith. I am rolling solo for this episode. Rob is still, I think, traveling home on the West coast on his way back here, not quite sure. But, you know, obviously we kind of know what we're gonna talk about for today's episode. I was on Breaking Points earlier today
Starting point is 00:01:40 and I was pretty harsh on President Trump and I've been, I had a couple of posts on Twitter there and I've been watching the, it's been a bit of a meltdown in my replies with, you know, some people very happy with what I said. Some people very upset about what I said, but I thought for today, I would kind of just do an episode on how I'm feeling about Donald Trump and obviously the, the current
Starting point is 00:02:05 situation in the Middle East, where I would start just by saying that we are at war with Iran as of right now. A lot of people are kind of framing this as if like Israel's at war with Iran and we're waiting to see whether or not the US gets involved. I think that's fundamentally wrong and I think we are at war with Iran right now. I think Donald Trump has already led us into another catastrophic war in the Middle East. Hopefully I am wrong about that. This is one where I really, really would be quite pleased to be proven wrong,
Starting point is 00:02:41 and maybe later this week or next month or something I can say, okay, I overreacted a little bit. I don't think that is the case. I hope I am wrong on that. I will gladly eat crow and be proven wrong on this one. But let's, before even getting into that, uh, let me do like a little bit of background. I don't want to be too repetitive with things I've said before, so I'll try my best to go through this quickly, but then we could kind of get into where exactly we are right now and how this might play out going forward. So just to be clear,
Starting point is 00:03:14 um, Iran is a country that has been in, in the crosshairs of some very powerful people for quite a long period of time. Iran was of course, if as many of you know or might remember or learned after the fact, immediately after 9-11, Iran was put by George W. Bush and Dick Cheney on the axis of evil. They said Iraq, Iran and North Korea were the countries that were put on this list um
Starting point is 00:03:48 Immediately following 9 11 and of course as many of you guys know Those three those three countries had absolutely nothing to do with with 9 11 um now the one of the reasons and one of the major reasons why they were Put in the lines of fire right away was because Israel wanted to have a regime change there. This is something that is not, this isn't a conspiracy theory. This is well documented and they've admitted it over and over again in their own words.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Now this is stuff I've gotten into a lot before so we don't need to go through the whole history of it but most of you guys listening to this are probably already aware But this was this was a major part of what was known as the clean break strategy that Israel had now essentially You can go. Okay. So the Iranian revolution happened in 1979 the regime That's currently in control of Iran has been in control of Iran since 1979 Israel in the The regime that's currently in control of Iran has been in control of Iran since 1979. Israel in the 70s, I think a couple years before that, it was in the late 70s, at Camp David when they made their peace with Egypt, they had promised to eventually give the Palestinians
Starting point is 00:05:00 a state. Of course, this had been a big crisis in the middle East going back to the, from the late 1940s, 1947, 1948 in 1967, Israel fought the six day war with Egypt and Jordan. And that's when they took control of Gaza and East Jerusalem in the West bank. And so Israel had control of these areas that had millions of of inhabitants living in it And so there was always talk of what was to be done with this the international community had always Overwhelmingly supported a two-state solution back to before the creation of the state of Israel
Starting point is 00:05:38 I mean the the original UN partition recommendation in 1947 was that there would be a Jewish state and a Palestinian state on the land that is today known as Israel. Um, and so in the seven, so in 1967, the Israel took control of Gaza and the West Bank. By, by the seventies already, the international community, in this case the United States of America was pressuring Israel to make a two state solution, uh, to, to give the Palestinians their own state. to make a two state solution, uh, to, to give the Palestinians their own state. Fast forward to the nineties in the early nineties is when the Oslo
Starting point is 00:06:09 Accords started and this was supposed to be the culmination of that process, that they were going to, you know, like begin that what they call the peace process. Um, and the peace process was supposed to culminate in a Palestinian state. That was the idea. And of course, famously, Bill Clinton brought, uh, And the peace process was supposed to culminate in a Palestinian state. That was the idea. And of course, famously, Bill Clinton brought Yasser Arafat and Yitzhak Rabin to Washington, D.C.
Starting point is 00:06:34 And they did a bunch of photo ops. This was the leader of the Palestinians and the prime minister of Israel. They shook hands. They signed an agreement. And they were supposed to start working toward an eventual two-state solution now the The the thinking or at least the stated thinking Things are always a little bit more complicated than this but for broad strokes purposes the the stated thinking of Yitzhak Rabin and the Israelis who wanted to work toward a
Starting point is 00:07:05 Pseudo-Palestinian state they were never going to give them a full state But regardless of that the thinking was that essentially the Jews in Israel had had this they had had horrible relations with the Arab world and much of the Arab world wouldn't recognize Israel and The thinking was that this was all over the Palestinian question the refugee problem and the occupation and That the other Arab countries were never going to recognize Israel or normalize relations Until they dealt with the Palestinian problem And so that was the idea of Oslo was that well
Starting point is 00:07:39 Look if we have this peace process and we give them a palestinian state we can settle the palestinian problem And then we can have normal relations and peace with the surrounding arab countries. That was the idea so Benjamin Netanyahu Was always somebody who opposed this and evidently wrote a book about it I've never read this Benjamin Netanyahu book, but evidently he wrote a book with a lot of this stuff in it Um, but I do know that in 1996, that's when the Clean Break Memo was sent to Benjamin Netanyahu. This was written by Richard Pearl and David Wormser. A couple other neocons were authors
Starting point is 00:08:16 on it as well. And what the Clean Break was, was a break from that peace process. That was the idea of the clean break. And this was there, this was the neo cons and the Lacoudin X strategy was that, um, we, we essentially, you know, you've had this whole plan, uh, known as the peace process with it's, uh, you know, um, land exchanges as they call that, uh, that's, that, you know, is supposed to ultimately leave in a Palestinian state, uh, lead to a Palestinian state. We want a clean break from that. We want to get away from that. And so what we're going to do, right?
Starting point is 00:08:55 So it basically they flipped the Rabin model on its head and they said, you guys have this all wrong. You're saying that you need to make peace with the Palestinians so that you can normalize relationships with the broader Arab country, with the broader Arab world, with the surrounding Arab nation states. But see, that's all wrong. What you want to do is get away from the peace process, get away from the idea of a Palestinian state.
Starting point is 00:09:21 And you'll do that by overthrowing the regimes that are giving you trouble around the area. And this way you don't have to make peace with the Palestinians so you can normalize relations with the broader Arab world. We can overthrow the the governments that you don't like. You can normalize relations with the surrounding Arab world without having to give the Palestinians their own state So this was the ultimate plan of the neocons and it's very so the clean break memo was written in 1996 It's very interesting to read the neoconservative writing from that period of time
Starting point is 00:09:59 Um because it's before 9 11 But after they've made this decision to embark on the foreign policy that becomes's before 9 11 but after they've made this decision To embark on the foreign policy that becomes realized after 9 11 Now the reason why it's so interesting to read the neocons writing in the 90s is because As they're fighting all of the wars all the terror wars after 9 11. They have this, you know, they they have a 9 11 related Justification for why they're going to fight all these wars But before 9 11 when they didn't know that they were going to get that gift to them
Starting point is 00:10:32 Uh, they had a whole different Um, they had a very different stated objectives and stated justifications And so you get into more of like oh what's really going on here? What's really going on here? And basically, the regimes that were giving Israel problems, and when I say giving Israel problems, meaning they were defiant of Israel, they were supporting Israel's enemies. I mean, back from the very beginning, in 1947 1948, the creation of Israel involved something like 750,000 Palestinians being forced or fleeing their their homes and never being allowed back in it led to this permanent refugee crisis and
Starting point is 00:11:21 So there was the refugee crisis and then after 1967 they were occupied by the Israelis So there was this there was resistance to Israel from the very beginning and that included terrorism Of course, there was also terrorists the terrorism from the Israeli side and even before the creation of the state of Israel There were Zionist militia's paramilitary organizations that were were terrorists by nature and of course after the creation of the state of israel The state of israel engaged in all types of actions that were terrorists in nature And still do to this day The regimes that were giving israel a bunch of problems were to list off a few Saddam hussein's iraq momar gadafi's Libya, Bashar al-Assad's Syria.
Starting point is 00:12:05 These were all regimes that didn't recognize Israel as legitimate and would, to different varying degrees, would fund and arm some of the resistance groups from their perspective or terrorist organizations from the Israeli perspective so Iran was always the big one Iran was always the one they wanted the most but it was also the hardest one to get and in fact immediately after 9-eleven There was some kind of inter fighting about this Sharon was the prime minister of Israel when
Starting point is 00:12:46 In 2001 when 9-eleven happened Sharon's envoy blanking on his name, but I know that he initially argued when he had first seen the plans To invade Iraq. He had tried to persuade the George W. Bush to do Iran first They they wanted to overthrow Saddam Hussein, but they wanted to overthrow the mullahs in Iran first. And that was a source of some infighting. Ultimately, they were told that don't worry, Iran's next. Iran is coming next. And so ultimately they said, okay, that's good enough. And then they supported them. Their concern, of course, was that, you know, if you just overthrew Saddam Hussein and didn't
Starting point is 00:13:30 overthrow the mullahs in Iran, you would just be handing more influence over to Iran. They ended up being correct about those concerns. But of course, they fell in line and supported the war in Iraq. And then for the 2002, Israel was involved in pumping out some of the most ridiculous propaganda about how Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and was in on 9 11 and all this other stuff. But again, you can go read the neocons in their own words. You could read in the nineties and our project for a new American century where they wrote up that they wanted to overthrow Saddam Hussein for Israel.
Starting point is 00:14:03 It had nothing to do with weapons of mass destruction or any of this other nonsense. But after 9-11, that became very effective propaganda that, oh, we're just doing this because we're trying to stop another 9-11 in a post-9-11 world. We can't allow Saddam Hussein to have weapons of mass destruction. As General Wesley Clark, who is the Supreme Commander of the NATO allies, as well as a four star general, as he is on record, and he has repeated this multiple times and really doubled down on it. But he said that in late 2001,
Starting point is 00:14:37 he saw what's known now as the famous seven countries in five years. He saw that it, uh, what he claimed was a Classified document that he was evidently illegally shown because he was a general in Bill Clinton's administration But he was out. He was a civilian at this point or at least not in the administration And he was shown a classified document that said that it had been decided That we were going to overthrow seven countries in the next five years Decided that we were going to overthrow seven countries in the next five years The last one on that list is Iran the other six have already been completed We are on the seventh country
Starting point is 00:15:11 So like that's what's going on here then that is the only answer that makes everything else make sense So Benjamin Netanyahu, of course the current prime minister of Israel the, the longest serving prime minister in Israeli history, he has been, no exaggeration, I think I've heard someone say he was making the claims in the 80s, but the furthest back I could find, I believe was 1991. But so at least since I was eight years old, Benjamin Netanyahu has been saying that Iran is on the cusp of developing nuclear weapons all through the nineties. He would have, uh, um, precise dates. He would have all types of arguments about why he knows why their intelligence
Starting point is 00:16:01 is so good that they know that it's one to three years and one to three years the Iranians are gonna have nuclear weapons Over and over and over again. He said this in 91 and 95 and 98 in 2001 in 2002 he came and testified before the the US Congress said we have to overthrow Saddam Hussein It'll have positive reverberations around the region said he has weapons of mass destruction Said the iranians are working on a nuke He also advocated that we overthrow momar qaddafi in libya and overthrow the government in iran Um, so he just came over to america and advocated for three regime change wars blatantly again
Starting point is 00:16:40 This isn't a theory. It's not a conspiracy theory. This is on the record Information and so this entire time he's a he's been claiming that Iran is about to get nuclear weapons when Obama Signed the deal with Iran. He said that now Iran has been fast-tracked on Their path to nuclear weapons. So, you know it fast-track It was, it was one to three years in 1991 and then in 2013 it was fast tracked. So anyway, we're now eight years later from there and, or excuse me, 12 years later from there and, um,
Starting point is 00:17:18 still no nuclear weapon in Iran, but that didn't stop him from going to the United nations where he had that Daffy duck bomb, like a big circle black bomb bomb and the black was filled all the way up to like 90 percent. He said, this is how close they are. They're this close to getting a nuclear weapon. All always Benjamin Netanyahu has been, he's constantly been trying to get the U S to go overthrow the regime in Iran and make no mistake about it. That's what this latest attack is about
Starting point is 00:17:45 It is not about destroying Iran's nuclear capabilities. No one is really concerned that Iran has a nuke Iran has um, what is is known as a latent deterrent So essentially they've been enriching uranium up to a point to have Essentially not a nuclear deterrent, but what's known as a latent deterrent where you basically get close enough to say, Hey, I could make nukes if we wanted to. And that's supposed to be enough of a threat that what's happening right now doesn't happen. Now, the idea being that no one's going to actually come attack you if you have a nuclear weapon, they don't want to make a nuclear weapon because they think they'll get bombed
Starting point is 00:18:26 if they actually start getting close to making it. So they've settled for this latent threat area where they, you know, they don't have a nuclear weapon. They've opened their books. They're a member of the nonproliferation treaty. They have inspections. They're like, look, this is what we're doing, but we're not, we're not going any further than that. So, you know, let's, let's leave it at that. Um, now it might, it's worth understanding like that. There's a few other like elements here that have pushed around to want a nuclear weapon.
Starting point is 00:18:58 And one of them is that we don't really mess with nuclear armed countries. And that's the truth. You know, of all of the countries that I've been talking about here, there was one who was on the list after nine 11 and that we've never really messed with. I mean, we put sanctions on them, but we won't attack them. And that's North Korea. And how did North Korea manage to get us not to attack them? Well, they develop nuclear weapons and they've tested them several times. And so,
Starting point is 00:19:27 what are you going to do? You know, in, uh, since world war two, America has fought a lot of wars. Uh, we've, we've been in many, many wars since 1945, when world war two ended. Um, we fought, um, wars in Korea and Vietnam, Serbia, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, and many others, just to name a few. But you might notice that one of the things that all of the countries that we fought in have in common is that they do not have nuclear weapons. Now, there's some exceptions to that. I mean, we had like a we had a drone bomb campaign in Pakistan, you know, but that was kind of approved by the government there.
Starting point is 00:20:10 And then when they I mean, they asked us to stop a few times when they really got serious. We did kind of cut it back. There's the other example you could use is probably I guess we've supported Ukraine who has had some successful strikes inside Russia. So there's like, you know, there's, but generally speaking, you don't really get messed with if you have nuclear weapons, at least not nearly as much as if you don't. And the other major factor there is that Momar Gaddafi, he became what's known now as the Libya model. This is the term that's, that's often used, but Moammar Gaddafi essentially got rid of his entire weapons program.
Starting point is 00:20:50 And in fact, I believe he only attained them to get rid of them, but that's neither here nor there. Moammar Gaddafi got rid of all his, his weapons. George W. Bush took it as a victory and said, look what we did. We got Moammar Gaddafi to You know denuclearize and get rid of his chemical weapons and then the Obama administration went in there and overthrew his regime and After having a no-fly zone and bombing the crap out of Libya We allowed a mob of angry Libyans to sodomize him to death
Starting point is 00:21:22 Beat beat and sodomize him to death. It's a pretty tough way to go out. And so this, of course, sent a message to everybody involved that you do not want to give up your weapons programs. So we kind of in a true, not just a strategic blunder, because that kind of, that doesn't exactly get at it. It's not just like it was an error. We, we knew what we were doing.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Anybody could have told you that this would have been the ramification of overthrown. I'm Omar Gaddafi after he had gotten rid of his weapons programs. Um, but we sent a message to the entire world, like anyone who cares about nuclear proliferation or any of that, we sent a message to the entire world that you Do not want to get rid of your weapons programs and in fact what you want to do is have nuclear weapons and
Starting point is 00:22:12 This is something that by the way Even even though he advocated for this war when I was debating Douglas Murray on Joe Rogan show This is one of the concessions that he made that yes That was a big mistake that was a big mistake because now it's incentivized everybody to want to get these weapons. So we did it anyway, even though it would be the worst thing for world peace, let alone the worst thing for Libya, you know, and the worst thing for destabilizing that region.
Starting point is 00:22:41 It was also the worst thing for the migrant crisis into Europe. But just more broadly speaking, for world peace, it was the worst thing you could do. But we did it so Israel could get another regime change that they wanted. So Israel could not have to deal with the pesky little problem of their neighbors objecting to their brutal treatment of the Palestinians. That's what the whole thing's about, including what we're going through right now. It's what it's all about. That's what it's always been about. And you know, one more thing just on the the the nuclear stuff. It is wild.
Starting point is 00:23:22 This has been one of the wildest aspects to the entire dynamic here is that, and I'm not sure everyone knows this. I think most people who talk about this stuff know it, but it is really wild, a very wild detail. Now, if you remember, when I was, uh, when I was debating, um, that, uh, lawyer lady Natasha, um, I can't remember her last name or how to say it right. But this is the one where Pierce Morgan just lost his shit on her. And that became kind of the story of the,
Starting point is 00:23:51 the debate that Pierce was just screaming at her that she is just lying through her teeth. But at one point in the debate, I said to her, and I think some people were like, uh, we're, we're trying to argue some of the like Zio Twitter accounts, we're trying to argue that I was just asking an irrelevant question. And what did this have to do with the debate? But at one point, I mean, this lady had just lied through her teeth so many times that I just made the point to pierce that I was like, Look, she's she's a liar, she won't
Starting point is 00:24:18 tell the truth if it makes Israel look bad. And then I asked her, I said, Does Israel have nuclear weapons? And then we all laughed as she danced around it and went, I don't know any better than you if Israel has nuclear weapons now by the way just I'm saying some people may not know this isn't that already a little strange have you ever heard of that before you ever heard of anyone saying I don't know if this country has nuclear weapons we always kind of know you know who the nuclear armed countries are and who the non- armed countries are well, here's why Israel has nuclear weapons has had nuclear weapons for many decades, but it's a secret. They don't admit it
Starting point is 00:24:54 Everyone knows they have them but they sit there and pretend that they don't and the reason they do that is so they don't have To join the non the non proliferation treaty they don't have to join the nonproliferation treaty. So they are not, they are the only country that has nuclear weapons, won't admit that they have nuclear weapons and won't join the treaty. Iran, on the other hand, does not have nuclear weapons and is a member in good standing of the nonproliferation treaty. Think about how crazy that is. So Israel is using the defense that they're building a secret nuclear weapon
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Starting point is 00:26:36 Just to be clear here, the, uh, the CIA, uh, concluded back in 2007 that Iran had given up its nuclear weapons ambitions and they were not pursuing nuclear weapons. They have reaffirmed that over and over again since there. Just earlier this year, a couple months ago, Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence, put out their annual threat assessment. In it they said, same thing, Iran does's not have nuclear weapons is not pursuing nuclear weapons. It would all of the intelligence has been that this is exactly what we've been
Starting point is 00:27:12 saying. It's a latent deterrent. They're just enriching uranium. They are enriching uranium beyond their civilian needs. I forget the exact numbers. I think for nuclear um, for, for, uh, nuclear energy, you need like between three to 5%. I think for some of the medical grade stuff, like cancer treatments and things like that, you need, um, like between 25 and 30%, something like this, you could double check the numbers and they're at like 60%. So there's no question. They're above just what they need,
Starting point is 00:27:42 but they're doing it for exactly the reasons I just said. They want to be close enough that they could get a new, like if they get attacked like this, they want to be able to develop a nuclear weapon in a hurry. Um, but they don't have the new, they don't have one single nuclear weapon. Um, so Benjamin Netanyahu was, uh, interviewed, um, uh, last night by Brett Bayer and even Benjamin Netanyahu, Brett Bayer asks him, you know, Brett Bayer is, he's, he's good for at least pretending to be a journalist.
Starting point is 00:28:13 So he'll ask like a couple of tough questions, but there'll be no tough followup questions and he'll let you get away with whatever you say afterward. But, um, he asked Netanyahu straight up. He said, he said, well, look, all of our intelligence is saying that they don't have nuclear weapons and that they're not trying to get them. So like, did you, did Israel get some new intelligence? That is something new that way. And he didn't even have an answer.
Starting point is 00:28:39 He just went, well, yes, we think they're going to get, and then at one point, he said, maybe they're 12 to 13 months away So again just to be clear The guy who's been lying through his teeth about how far away from a weapon iran is I mean he was saying one to three years in the 90s. So now he's saying one year plus even now Even he's not claiming they got nuclear weapons or they were about to get nuclear weapons from his own From from the horse's mouth. He's saying that maybe in a year they could have gotten them Okay. Now another thing that's an important detail here is that?
Starting point is 00:29:18 Iran can't get nuclear weapons without us knowing that they're getting nuclear weapons So it's not as if this was just gonna be a surprise. We would know that they're getting nuclear weapons. So it's not as if this was just going to be a surprise. We would know that they're pursuing them. But even Benjamin Netanyahu is not claiming that they have some intelligence that we don't have. So you might wonder, why did he attack right now? Why did he attack when Iran was in the middle of negotiations with the United States of America and Donald Trump had publicly asked him not to do this.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Now that's where we get into a little bit more of an interesting kind of detail in all of this. So essentially Donald Trump, um, Netanyahu said also in this interview that, uh, that Donald Trump was well aware of the attack, well aware that Israel was going to attack, um, and that he had approved it. Um, Donald, okay. After Israel attacked Iran, um,
Starting point is 00:30:18 after the attack, then there was reporting that essentially not only did Donald Trump know this, but Donald Trump was in on it and that the negotiating was all a fake, basically so that Iran wouldn't see this attack coming so that they were like coordinating and working together. So this is what Netanyahu and other reports are saying. On the other hand, Tucker Carlson was on
Starting point is 00:30:45 with Steve Bannon yesterday, and he said that he knows for a fact this is absolutely not true, and that they're lying, and that Witkoff and Donald Trump were negotiating in good faith, and that they really wanted to avoid this war and come to some type of nuclear agreement, some type of new agreement some type of new
Starting point is 00:31:05 Obama Iran deal But I suppose this one would be a little bit tougher or something that Donald Trump could find a way to justify Tarrin up the last agreement only to go back to the negotiating table to try to get a new agreement So but but that's what Tucker's claiming now. I Don't know what What's true and what's not in that. I trust Tucker Carlson a lot more than I trust Benjamin Netanyahu.
Starting point is 00:31:31 But just to be clear, there's really only a couple of options here and I'm open to if someone wants to point out an option, something I'm missing here, then you tell me. But the point is that either, either Netanyahu is telling the truth here or Tucker Carlson is telling the truth here. Now, if Benjamin Netanyahu is telling the truth here, then we're at war with Iran right now. If Tucker Carlson is telling the truth here, we're at war with Iran right now. Either way. You know, it's funny because you may, I'm sure as you see, you know, some of the Israel supporters just gloating and celebrating,
Starting point is 00:32:12 uh, you know, and we could get into that a bit more cause there's so much hypocrisy that's going on from all of them, but they will, it's, it's so funny because they're in this position of defending the indefensible. They're, they're defending Israel who just launched just a cowardly sneak attack in active aggression, you know, a preemptive war. So a war of choice, a war of aggression in a sneak attack. They just Pearl harbored Iran. Okay. But somehow we're supposed to view this as that
Starting point is 00:32:47 so the what their justification will be and this is what they'll almost to a man with the law say is that well, no this was a defensive action because Iran started the war on October 7th when their proxy Hamas launched a terrorist attack against Israel But if you'll notice like this is always the case when the war hawks talk about Iran They'll assert these things but they never have to actually Back it up with any facts like you you may have noticed you may have heard when the hawks are talking about Iran
Starting point is 00:33:21 They'll quite often say that Iran is the number one state sponsor of terrorism But you might notice what they never do is back that up with anything factual Like and by the way, I am NOT arguing that Iran does not sell weapons and and even Collaborate with terrorist organizations. I'm not arguing that they say iran is the number one state sponsor of terrorism and it's like, okay So where's the measurement for that? Have you ever seen anyone sit down and say look? This is how much saudi arabia gives to terrorist organizations and this is how much iran gives to terrorist organizations Have you ever seen anyone measure how much?
Starting point is 00:34:06 Iran gives to terrorist organizations. Have you ever seen anyone measure how much the US gives to terrorist organizations? How much Israel gives to terrorist organizations and by the way, I'm this is before I'm even playing the game of how do you define? Terrorism because it it there's a pretty strong argument that what Israel's done in Gaza over the last 21 months has been Terrorist in nature. There's a strong argument that what America did in shock and awe to Iraq was terrorist in nature, but leaving all of that aside. I'm talking like Organizations that we'd all agree are terrorists like al-qaeda or isis how much support have they gotten from the u.s From Israel from Saudi Arabia from Turkey, but no one even measures it They They just assert Iran is the one, but okay, fine. Let's just say that's true. So Iran, now Hamas is an Iranian proxy.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Now what do they have to prove? When they say that Iran, and of course, you know, this isn't just like random people saying this, like senators, Lindsey Graham called for us to bomb Iran on October 8th, right after October 7th. He said, we should be attacking Iran right now. This is a long sitting member of the Senate in America was calling for a war because of October 7th.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Now, what do they have to demonstrate in order to claim that Iran was at war with Israel Do they have to demonstrate that Iran was in on the planning of? October 7th because I've seen you know, I've argued with people again Not just random people on Twitter But people like in the media with big followings and they're like I just mentioned senators and congressmen and all types of people have made this argument They're like I just mentioned senators and congressmen and all types of people have made this argument. Our intelligence, the best US intelligence said that Iran was,
Starting point is 00:35:50 was caught off guard, was shocked by October 7th, but they had no knowledge of it. But then the response to that will be like, well, what did they think those weapons were going to do? Huh? They still gave weapons to Hamas, which I, you know, again, I'm sure at some point Iran has sold some weapons to Hamas, which I, you know, again, I'm sure at some point Iran has sold some weapons to Hamas. I don't really know how much there's, there's been a full blockade around that country since 2007. So I don't know how much, but you know, look,
Starting point is 00:36:16 we get weapons into federal prisons in the United States of America and you know, some weapons get into Gaza as well. Maybe Iran has given them something substantial. Again, no one ever really seems to try to back up these claims. They certainly were selling weapons to Hezbollah. They certainly have sold some weapons to the Houthis, and sure, maybe they gave some weapons to Hamas also.
Starting point is 00:36:37 But notice here, the criteria is that they didn't have to have any knowledge of October 7th. They didn't have to be a part of the planning of October 7th. They didn't have to be a part of the execution of October 7th. They gave weapons to Hamas and then Hamas did October 7th and that's enough. That's enough to say Iran is at war with Israel. Okay. Well, if that's true, then what is Israel attacking Iran other than the US being at
Starting point is 00:37:06 war with Iran? And again, the case is much stronger for the US being at war because it's not, look, according to Netanyahu, if what he's saying is true, then we expressly greenlit this operation. So not only was it done with our weapons, a country that we prop up with our weapons, attack them, but that if what Netanyahu is saying is true, that we were using the negotiations to help them sneak attack them. Now look, I don't exactly know whether Netanyahu is telling the truth, these reports are true, or whether Tucker Carlson's right. I don't think Tucker Carlson's lying.
Starting point is 00:37:45 It is possible that people are lying to him and he's believing the lies, but either way, if what Netanyahu is saying is true, then not only did we, not only are we a part of this, but we were like an active part in the most, um, in the most shameful way, pretending to want negotiations, just setting them up for another war. It doesn't, it doesn't really help at least as far as I'm seeing this,
Starting point is 00:38:17 it doesn't help Tucker Carlson's claim that we were evacuating people in the region 24 to 48 hours before the attack came. So if nothing else, there seems to be like knowledge, prior knowledge before the fact, which is what Netanyahu is claiming. So maybe that's it, but look, I mean, imagine that, right? Imagine that not only was the claim that, you you know Hamas was a proxy of Iran but imagine that the Iranians had been in negotiations with the Israelis and then quietly 24 hours before October 7th pulled their people out of the region. And then after pulling off October 7th,
Starting point is 00:39:05 the Hamas leaders came out and said, yep, around had our back. They knew we were going to do it. This was all a setup to get Israel. We would have already gone to war with Iran over that. So like, again, as I always kind of insist with these things, it's funny because the, the Israel supporters will accuse us of uh moral relativism But the entire time i'm always saying what is the objective standard here? What is the objective standard? We can't have one standard for when iran is at war and a completely different standard for when we're at war If there is an object if we're rejecting relativism and we're having an objective standard here
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Starting point is 00:40:57 M-A-S-A chips.com slash Dave promo code Dave for 25% off your first order. All right, let's get back into the show. Now let's just explore for a second here. If let's say the Tucker Carlson angle is right. Let's say that which, you know, certain things are kind of hard to explain, but if what Tucker like it certainly is plausible that Israel would go ahead and do this even without Donald Trump's support. I mean, they've always been kind of,
Starting point is 00:41:30 their game is always to lure America into their next war. And so maybe this was it that they just felt like they'd put Trump in this position and then he'd have no choice. So let's, let's explore that scenario, which maybe there's a third one that I'm missing here, but it seems like it's got to be one of these two so let's say as Dr. Carlson says that Donald Trump and Steve Witkoff were negotiating in good faith
Starting point is 00:41:55 they wanted to get a deal done they wanted to avoid this war and Then Israel sabotaged them and then Israel sabotaged them Okay, so there just to understand here they are we are in negotiations with the Iranians. There was a meeting set the day After Israel attacked the next day the Iranians were supposed to be meeting negotiating with the Trump administration So then Israel attacks with the trump administration so then israel attacks
Starting point is 00:42:27 Destroying the possibility of negotiations at least it seems there are reports today that that aram still wants to negotiate but I just I I have a feeling we're past that point. I hope i'm wrong and I hope this does end in a very short war that ends in negotiations That would be great But let's just say let's say negotiations that would be great But let's just say let's say That Israel keep in mind by the way that after bending over backward for Netanyahu in his first Administration Netanyahu I mean literally doing things that no other president has ever done for the Israelis moving the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem
Starting point is 00:42:59 and you understand why that's that's such a provocative thing that the israelis have wanted for so long because the the two-state solution Going back to the oslo accords was supposed to be based around 1967 borders and when people say 1967 borders they mean before uh the six-day war in 1967 so the borders that held from 1948 until 1967 so the borders that held from 1948 until 1967 so those borders Would split Jerusalem with East with East Jerusalem being a part of the new
Starting point is 00:43:33 Palestinian state with East Jerusalem in the West Bank and Gaza being the Palestinian state so the significance of Putting the embassy in Jerusalem or of Israel calling Jerusalem its capital rather than Tel Aviv is that there is it's a signal that you're never getting your Palestinian state much like the settlements in the West Bank it's like hey if we're gonna give them a state then what are how come we're building these giant settlements on the territory that's supposed to be their state so Donald Trump moves the embassy to Jerusalem Donald Trump gets the Abraham Accords through basically
Starting point is 00:44:08 bribes the surrounding Arab countries to Recognize Israel and enter into you know normal relations with them bribes them with taxpayer money to do that He does everything he can kill Soleimani you know, is it just the the most pro-Israel president you could possibly be. And yet Benjamin Netanyahu was the first one to throw Donald Trump under the bus and congratulate Joe Biden for winning the 2020 election before American media had even called the race for Joe Biden. Forget the, the weeks and months afterward where Trump was contesting the election and and bringing court cases
Starting point is 00:44:46 Or obviously all of them failed but that wasn't clear at the time Donald Trump. This was Benjamin Netanyahu Congratulated Joe Biden for winning before the American media was even calling the race after everything Donald Trump did the guy turned around And stabbed him in the back. And so now again, we're operating under the Tucker Carlson model here. Now you're telling me that Donald Trump was in the middle of negotiations and Israel started a war that Trump was trying to avoid. And then they went out and lied about it and said, no, no, no, he was in on it the whole time and Donald Trump doesn't correct the record. Doesn't come out and say, no, no, no, they was in on it the whole time and Donald Trump doesn't correct the record Doesn't come out and say no, no, no, they're lying guys. I was negotiating I did not want this war doesn't like if that were true
Starting point is 00:45:33 Then the only way to be a leader after that would to come out state that for the record condemn Israel's aggressive attack of Iran And say no, we are going back to negotiating right now. And now whatever now we're not negotiating favorably with Israel or something like that, but he didn't he because essentially that would just make him look weak. That would make him look weak. Because he something was done to him against his will that has now totally changed the calculation and made peace much more difficult to attain. So if that's true, if the Tucker Carlson, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:10 model, whatever you want to call it, if Tucker Carlson is right when he says he knows for a fact that Trump and Witkoff were negotiating in good faith and were not covering for the Israelis, then Donald Trump is allowing that to be the narrative. It's actually even worse for Donald Trump than he is the most impotent coward of a leader that he wouldn't even go out and correct the record to potentially avoid world war three. Clink through a to like in the worst case scenario, avoid world war three in a better case scenario, avoid a catastrophic war in the middle East and and beyond that, just to tell the truth,
Starting point is 00:46:47 just to not allow the Israelis to dog walk you into the policy they want. So you got two options here. They're either way, it's a disastrous failure from Donald Trump. Um, and that just really can't be overstated and so that is why I I said earlier today on breaking points that I'm I'm you know It's not that I was ever really on it or whatever But I'm just to be if I'm officially jumping off the Trump train here I think it I just think the guy if he ever did deserve our support. He no longer does
Starting point is 00:47:23 this was a This was a, she, this was, and I know Donald Trump was always, uh, you know, Israel's lapdog. And I know that he was always, would always, you know, was terrible on Iran, terrible on Israel was always, uh, you know, would talk in this blustery language. But at the very core of Donald Trump's pitch was that I do that so we don't fight wars This is what all of his supporters bragged throughout the you know His first administration in the four years after that there were no new wars under Donald Trump No new wars in the Middle East. Well, that's over now and all this talk about how Russia wouldn't have dared done it
Starting point is 00:48:03 Had I been president or Hamas wouldn't have dared done it had I been president or Hamas wouldn't have dared to do it if I had been president. Israel will dare do it. Israel seems to be more emboldened by the fact that Donald Trump's president than they've ever been about anything else. I mean, this is a war that they've wanted for at least the last 30 years, and they only felt emboldened to do it now. So I just, I don't know what I can say
Starting point is 00:48:31 other than that's just, that's it. That's it for me. I mean, look, Donald Trump, for all the stuff he's been through, and of course, I say this just in principle, I believe me, I know how corrupt the Congress is. I know this will never happen. They actually probably love this about Donald Trump, you know, for all the people who hate
Starting point is 00:48:52 Donald Trump. And I mean the people in power, not like someone you know, but say like all the people at CNN or MSNBC or the New York Times or the Washington Post or in the Democratic establishment or the Republican establishment, all the people in the CIA or the FBI or all of them, right? For all, as much as they've hated Donald Trump for the last eight, nine years, they like this. You won't, you won't see any impeachment attempts, uh, from the leadership, at least, maybe like some rogue elements, but you're not gonna see like, you know
Starting point is 00:49:27 Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer leading impeachment Hearings over this but this is actually the thing Donald Trump should be impeached for he should be impeached and removed for this Because either of those two things either of those two scenarios is just unforgivable He should if he had an ounce of integrity, he'd resign himself right now. Let JD Vance get in there. Let's see if maybe he's got a backbone, but if Donald Trump literally tried to not only fool the Iranians, but fool his own supporters into thinking that he was negotiating for peace and
Starting point is 00:50:04 then encouraged in a legal war of aggression by the Israelis, then he should be impeached and removed. And if he didn't, and Israel has sabotaged the United States of America and a country who is our welfare queen, a country whose wars we fight for them, whose weapons we supply to them, who we give them $4 billion a year just for existing, not to mention the $3 billion a year we give Egypt to never fight them, or the billions of dollars that we've given to Jordan to never fight them, or the billions of dollars we give to Saudi Arabia or the United Arab Emirates to never fight Israel.
Starting point is 00:50:46 All that we've given them that they would go out of their way to sabotage our peace talks. And then our president would sit there and take it and not correct the record. That's even worse. To be honest, that's even worse. Either way, he should actually be impeached and removed for this. Of course, he won't be. He'll be impeached for a phone call with Zelinsky or, you know, whatever, January 6th or something like that for the nonsense. This, the thing is that this is what they actually like about Donald Trump. Look, I hope that, you know, there's, there's, as I've been saying some stuff like this,
Starting point is 00:51:24 both on breaking points and on Twitter today, I've, I's, there's, as, as I've been saying some stuff like this, both on breaking points and on Twitter today, I've, I've, there's been a lot of people who say, uh, that I'm overreacting wait and see, we'll see what happens here. Um, I hope you're right. I hope you're right. And I hope I'm wrong. This is still too far for me. I'm off. Um, I'm off the Trump train. If ever I was really on it, I was hopeful at one point. Um, but I hope you're right. And I hope that, you know, they're, they're, the Iranians were signaling today that they were ready to negotiate. Um,
Starting point is 00:51:55 which is, I was surprised by, um, I thought it was going to be too late for that. But then again, I mean, we just saw one of two things happen here. Either Donald Trump never really wanted to negotiate with the Iranians or he did and Israel sabotaged it. So why should we think negotiations are going to happen now? I guess a couple, a couple other notes that I would say here, it is, um, it has been wild
Starting point is 00:52:29 It's almost like you stepped in some type of time machine and i'm back in 2002 Uh listening to the same people use the same Justifications that were used to uh to launch the invasion of iraq. I mean literally the exact same people Listen, i'm seeing mark levin and glenn beck all telling me how we'll be greeted as liberators. Oh, will we really? No, you don't understand. They were developing weapons of mass destruction. Okay. All right. All right, guys. Let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is cornbread. Cornbread's CBD gummies. They're good for stressful time, like when the world's at war. Maybe you need a nice CBD gummy to calm down. Well, make sure you go to Cornbread Hemp's CBD gummies. Cornbread's Hemp CBD gummies are made to help you feel better,
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Starting point is 00:53:40 P O T P at checkout for 30% off. All right, let's get back into the show. It's like, man, you guys should be forced to at least switch it up for 30% off. All right, let's get back into the show. It's like, man, you guys should be forced to at least switch it up for the next one. You know, that's what you, that's the lie you guys told us last time you were duping us into fighting a war on Israel's behalf. You got to find a new one for this time. Um, it's also, it's just been, it's appalling and I gotta say kind of shocking to see how many people were celebrating this immediately, like celebrating how easy it was, how successful Israel was before it's
Starting point is 00:54:13 even clear. I mean, before it's even clear, like how much the Iranian nuclear program has even been degraded. It's just very unclear right now. How many people have died? Very unclear right now. I think they were reporting like 70 people were killed with several hundred being wounded out of Iran, but we still haven't even, the dust hasn't even settled. We don't exactly know. And they're celebrating. See, this was easy. Here's a video. I saw one person post a video of what looked to be about
Starting point is 00:54:46 25 Iranians cheering and they were like look the people are ready to rise up Yeah, I it's like I remember them saying the same thing about Saddam Hussein But at least there were like thousands of people in those videos But there you know, this is this is how wars always work. Every single war, my entire life, every war was like this. I remember, um, went in, uh, you know, I, I think I've told this on the show before, but I had, um, I have a memory, you know, I was a little kid. I was born in 1983. So it was in 1991 that George H. W. Bush launched the Gulf War and
Starting point is 00:55:25 invaded Iraq for the first time. I remember his address to the nation, um, when he announced that we were invading. And I remember, you know, vaguely from the time, but I've read about this as an adult, but I remember the celebration after the Gulf War in, uh, the, the one in 91 I'm talking about now. And everybody was just celebrating how easy it was I mean we we went right in there and just steamrolled them. It was a cakewalk Um, we didn't take casualties some injuries. I don't think I don't think america took any casualties in that war
Starting point is 00:55:57 I might be wrong, but if if there were they were very low in number. Um, And that was it. We were celebrating how easy it was. It was such an easy success, you know, uh, cakewalk, except we went on to be militarily bogged down in that country for the next 30 years. You know, there were, there were massive sanctions and bombing campaigns all through the Clinton years of Iraq. In fact, it was one of the things, uh, that was one of the stated grievances in Osama bin Laden's declaration of war on the West was how many babies we killed in Iraq. And we were we were bogged down there throughout the nineties. Of course, after
Starting point is 00:56:35 9 11, they launched the George W. Bush's war there. That went on to be another 20 year catastrophe. It was 30 years of fighting after that. It was real easy to celebrate how easy it is at the time. Now of course everybody remembers famously that only a couple months into George W. Bush's invasion of Iraq he had a mission accomplished celebration where he came in on a fighter jet and they had the big mission accomplished banner behind him and everyone was celebrating. What an easy victory it had been. See, we got Saddam out of there. And then we went on to be embroiled in a 20 year catastrophic civil war or something like a million people died. I remember right after Momar Gaddafi was overthrown is when Hillary
Starting point is 00:57:20 Clinton had her famous, we came, we saw, he's dead. They were all planning about how this was going to be the centerpiece of Hillary Clinton's, uh, 2016 presidential campaign. You know, she was secretary of state. She was, they called it Hillary's war. She was the one who really pushed, uh, to overthrow Moammar Gaddafi and, and Obama's memoir. He said that he was about 50 50 on the issue and that Hillary Clinton was the one who convinced him. Um, she was bragging about it and they wanted to have something, you know, Hillary Clinton had, um,
Starting point is 00:57:52 again, I might be a little bit older than some of you guys, but I remember this stuff. But in the 90s when Hillary Clinton was the first lady, she was put in charge of health care. She was going to sell the new healthcare reform and it failed. And so she was just kind of remembered for this policy failure. She really had nothing as a senator. She voted for the war in Iraq, which was a disaster. She didn't really have anything that she could say like, this was my, you know, she always, Hillary Clinton always tried to run on like, I'm the professional one. I'm the one with experience. I'm, you know, all this shit, but she didn't have anything to hang her hat on.
Starting point is 00:58:27 And so they thought this would be it. The Libya model, you see, she let a regime change, you know, one of the countries that Israel wanted us to get rid of, but she didn't do it with boots on the ground. The way that George W Bush did it these days, this is how the Democrats were trying to sell themselves. Like we're the party of war, but we're for smart wars. We don't just send our troops in and get, you know, boggled down in a,
Starting point is 00:58:50 uh, nation building project. We just took out the leader, you know? So that was their plan. They were going to run on Libya in her presidential campaign. By the time she was running for president, she wouldn't dare bring up Libya. She wouldn't even mention it because it was so obviously a colossal failure at that point I'm sure a lot of you guys can remember because i'm not going that far back now But when vladimir putin first invaded ukraine joe biden said we would defeat them with sanctions alone We wouldn't even have to send in weapons to the ukrainians. We could just sanction russia right out of ukraine
Starting point is 00:59:28 How'd that work out, you know hundreds of billions of dollars of weapons later and russia's got more territory than they had then so For people who are celebrating how easy and successful this war was 48 hours into the war These people are out of their fucking minds Like you can't look back at the last 25 years and go at least I shouldn't be celebrating yet Now maybe i'll be wrong Maybe i'll be proven wrong in all of this perhaps it is true That iran is a better candidate for regime change than these other countries
Starting point is 01:00:04 I've heard that argument made and I must admit There's not nothing to it. You know Iran has a different history a different level of sophistication a different tradition in liberalism than a lot of these other countries do There's the the Shaw who was installed by the U S uh, after we overthrew most of the day in 1953, uh, who was a democratically elected leader by the way, but he didn't want to do business with a British oil companies. And so the CIA went in and overthrew him and we installed the Shaw and from
Starting point is 01:00:41 1953 to 1979, Iran was a much different country than it's been since then. And there, you know, some of you guys may have seen, but like they'll show you pictures of like Iran in 1971 and there's women in mini skirts and there's cities and there's, you know, and then after the revolution in 79, it became a much more repressive society. Still in big cities in Iran
Starting point is 01:01:05 There are nightclubs and there are you know, like there's the argument is that there's a there's a liberalism to their culture that you don't find in others and Listen, I suppose I'll say perhaps There that finally this time and for the first time The Warhawks are actually right about this and this will be easy and they will overthrow the regime and it will just be a much better situation. But I'm doubtful. I've just seen this movie play out many times before and you know,
Starting point is 01:01:39 there's a lot of bluster right now. There's a lot of people talking about how, um, how weak the Iranian regime is. And so Netanyahu was saying to Brett Bayer the other day, and they always say this when they're trying to get us to where, oh, they're so weak, it'll be so easy to go just overthrow them. Because again, make no mistake about it. This is about regime change. This is about getting the seventh country on Wesley Clark's list. It's not about a non-existent nuclear weapons program.
Starting point is 01:02:02 seventh country on Wesley Clark's list. It's not about a non-existent nuclear weapons program. There are other things that are also different about Iran. And I think Israel's already felt that like one of the things that's pretty different about Iran is that when we went in to take out Saddam Hussein, when we went in to take out Muammar Gaddafi, when we went into to take out Muammar Gaddafi when we went in to overthrow the Taliban when we went into overthrow Bashar al-Assad They didn't they weren't able to bomb the crap out of Israel in response
Starting point is 01:02:35 They certainly weren't able to bomb the United States of America in response Iran has already demonstrated while all of these people are celebrating Iran has already demonstrated that they can touch Israel Then I don't think they've emptied out everything they have yet. There's nobody's claiming that You know, it should also be pointed out here that Immediately and this is what I mean when I say the US is already at war with Iran immediately That we have us armed forces Shooting down the Iranian missiles. So think about that too is just one more You know one more example of how we're at war with them. Imagine you either allow
Starting point is 01:03:16 slash facilitate or possibly didn't want but will still make excuses for possibly didn't want but will still make excuses for Israel's aggressive attack of Iran. And then you're shooting down the missiles coming back in the other direction, protecting them. So, I don't know, how is that not being at war with that country? And so, you know, they could sit here and say that this regime is weak. The people really hate them. They don't have any popular support You know 80 percent of the people oppose this regime all the numbers that they say again
Starting point is 01:03:50 Like with all their claims about iran, they never have to show their work. They never have to demonstrate how they concluded this The fact of the matter is that this regime has stood since 1979 Now If they were so weak stood since 1979. Now, if they were so weak, you know, and okay, this, this regime has stood since 1979 with the most powerful governments in the world, wanting them out and they've still stayed in. I don't think I'm buying this argument that they're, they're going to be so easy to topple. And once again, as the military told George W. Bush in
Starting point is 01:04:27 2007 we do not have escalation dominance in a war with Iran Meaning, you know the escalation dominance is the military term that basically means we're gonna do this now Once we do this they could either do this or this or this if they do this we do this if they do this We do this if they do this we do this This is they do this, we do this. If they do this, we do this. This is the type of dominance we had over Saddam Hussein's Iraq. And when I say that, I don't mean what everybody knows we got bogged down in Iraq was in nation building. It was after we overthrew Saddam Hussein, then
Starting point is 01:04:58 we had this civil war breakout. We fought on one side of the civil war, there was resistance from the other side of civil war. We're trying to hold regular elections. We're trying to impose a new government. The country's in flames. Al Qaeda comes in to join up with the resistance. Now we got these fighters who were fighting an insurgency. That's where the war in Iraq gets really messy. That's where a million people die. That's where we're in the 20-year regime change war. But just the war with Saddam Hussein's government was a cakewalk. You know, we went in there and whatever they did, we had 10 times more power.
Starting point is 01:05:30 You know, they do this, we send them the Air Force. They do this, we send them the Navy. They like, we'd always be able to take out their next option. What the Pentagon was telling George W. Bush in 2007 is that we don't have that with Iran. Like we don't have that. You know, it's like, okay We bomb their nuclear facilities then they could touch any one of our bases or embassies in the region And we just have tens of thousands of US military personnel all throughout the region, you know
Starting point is 01:05:57 I mean we have the bases in Iraq and Bahrain and in Qatar all over the place We have US bases that they can touch not to mention Israel's right there as well and to see You know the same people who have championed war after war after war every one of them being a catastrophic failure now out here Saying no no no this one's easy. It's like I just would not I'm looking at this thing I would not take their word for it. And I hope I'm wrong.
Starting point is 01:06:27 I hope Donald Trump pulls a Trump card out of his ass and gets back to the negotiating table and we can somehow avoid this calamity. But as of now, I am just not seeing it. It does not look good if you're asking me. And I do think that no matter what, this has been a total betrayal of America first and of MAGA by Donald Trump and you know, I'm kind of sick of people making excuses for him You know, Donald Trump has had some of the the biggest tests of his life
Starting point is 01:06:59 He has absolutely failed then kovat was the first one was the biggest test of his life. He championed lockdowns. He mocked places that weren't locking down, made predictions about places and countries like Sweden, how they were going to like regret that they didn't have lockdowns. Meanwhile, they did great through COVID, did substantially better than their neighbors. Donald Trump kept Fauci on the job through all of 2020, bragged about the awful vaccine,
Starting point is 01:07:32 not even getting into his foreign policy decisions, like how much death and destruction is on this guy's hands. And look, I know, I supported him this time around. It really did seem at the time like he was a much better option. In some ways, I'm sure he still was a much better option than Kamala Harris. And I still tend to think looking back at it, that it would have been worse for the country for her to win overall.
Starting point is 01:07:58 But this is just, you know, this is the second major test of Donald Trump's life and he's just failing it miserably. And I have no role in any of this, if not to tell the truth. And I'm just not, um, you know, I understand where people who are real close to the president and want to influence him still feel like they got to kind of kiss his ass while blaming everyone else around him. But that's not me. At a certain point, it's like, no, this is on him. It's his fault. He's got it.
Starting point is 01:08:26 He's had enough good people around him and he's listening to the bad ones on this. This is why you don't load your whole cabinet up with nothing but pro Israel people that, you know, it should also be pointed out. And this is part of why it's such a betrayal to his own base that he's not going to get mass deportations done either, you know, which by the way, the timing of him totally bitching out on that works really well with the timing of this happening because right now you have a situation where Donald Trump has majority, the majority of the American people support mass deportations
Starting point is 01:09:07 Donald Trump was elected on the issue of immigration twice Three times if you ask his supporters The majority supports Donald Trump's position but it's a difficult policy to enact and the minority who opposes it is Mobilized and energetic they are now back out on the streets protesting Donald Trump. In other words, Donald Trump needed all of his political capital in order to get his signature issue through. And instead he's going to completely
Starting point is 01:09:41 divide his base. It's going to divide his base over this. So just so you know, we're never getting any of that done the neocon agenda of attacking the world and inviting the world The neocon agenda of removing all having regime change against all of Israel's enemies are alive and well They are as always they're they're winning the day politically even though they're losing the day with the people There's I mean there's like Neocon you think about it like this. How crazy is this the term neocon is now a pejorative? to the point that people like Mark Levin and Douglas Murray go no fair. Don't you call me that name?
Starting point is 01:10:27 But you got to stop using that name. That's a secret code word for you hate Jews Think about it from the people from the guy who wrote the book the case for neoconservatism Or the neoconservatism why we need it or whatever is dumb book was called That guy mark Levin the self-described neoconservatives now say don't call me that that's a mean word That's how much neoconservatives have lost the argument with the American people. They now say you're a racist if you use the term neocon. That's how much they've lost the argument. And yet still their policy wins the day. How crazy is that? And you know, people, uh, listen,
Starting point is 01:11:06 I knew this was going to happen. I knew I was going to end up in this situation at some point. I was hoping I wouldn't, but it seemed inevitable. Uh, I had a lot of people in the MAGA world who were just loving me when I came out and supported Donald Trump. And a lot of those same people are now hating me that I'm criticizing him and apologizing for supporting him. And that's fine. I never really, you know, Donald Trump and a lot of those same people are now hating me that I'm criticizing him and Apologizing for supporting him and that's fine I never really you know I always knew when those people were celebrating me that it was kind of phony and I kind of feel the same way now
Starting point is 01:11:34 I don't really care. I'm going to keep telling the truth as I see it, but I will say this and this is the final thing I'll say and we can wrap up the episode on this is the final thing I'll say and we can wrap up the episode on this. One of the criticisms of Donald Trump supporters for years and years now has been that they are members of a cult. Whatever Donald Trump says they're going to support, he could do a one 80 on his policy from yesterday and then they'll do a one 80 right there with him. And I think that that is, that is a fair assessment of some of Donald Trump's supporters,
Starting point is 01:12:05 but certainly not all of them. And I have been really blown away. And part of this is the dynamic I was talking about, how the neocons have completely lost the argument and yet they completely win the policy. It doesn't matter how many debates I do where I just smash a neocon, they still have more influence in DC than me or people who think like me ever well, at least anytime soon.
Starting point is 01:12:27 But it has been remarkable to see how many of the influential right-wing people, Trump supporters, are just not supporting this policy, are coming out against it. And I would just, for whatever influence I have, I would just say like, hey, look, you know all those Joe Biden supporters who really were members of I have, I would just say like, Hey, look, you know, all those Joe Biden supporters who really were members of a cult who literally just repeated whatever the corporate media said, Oh, Ivermectin is horse dewormer, horse dewormer, horse dewormer. He's sharp as attack, sharp as attack, sharp as attack.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Like whatever they told you behind closed doors, behind closed doors, he's sharp as attack. And then as soon as the media told them that their guy who they loved Was gonna drop out. They said yes, he must drop out He must drop out Kamala Harris is joy and hope Kamala Harris is joy and hope like they literally are just in a brainwashed cult Don't be like them We are not supposed to be them We're supposed to actually believe in something and if you do actually believe in something at a certain point
Starting point is 01:13:24 You got to stop making excuses for the guy who's failing on all that shit and that's where I am As always very interested to hear your feedback. I hope I'm wrong about a lot of this stuff I hope this works out and it isn't another disaster as of right now not looking too good We'll see what happens today. Of course. There was a some of you may have seen Scott Horton had put out that he had sources close to him that were telling him America is going to attack Iran today. I have heard from those same sources. They have been right on the members only episode a couple days ago. I had told, you know, if you want to get that you got to sign up over at partoftheprime.com but I had told our audience in the members only episode, um That I had some sources that were saying Israel was about to
Starting point is 01:14:07 to attack But a couple days before Israel attacked around They turned out to be correct about that. The same sources are telling me that the US is about to attack around We'll see if they're they're right again, but either way we're already at war Let's hope it ends quickly. All right. Thank you guys for watching. Catch you next time.
Starting point is 01:14:28 Peace.

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