Part Of The Problem - We Need Better Propaganda

Episode Date: March 10, 2026

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What's up, what's up everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem. I am Dave Smith. He is Robbie the Fire, Robby the Fire Bernstein. Wow, I should get that one right after all these years. We just had a very fun time out in Pittsburgh. How you doing, Rob? I'm well. How are you, my friend?

Very good. Very good. You know, there's a war on, but that gives us a lot to talk about. And perhaps the world is crumbling before our very eyes. But we're going to go down podcasting. That's the plan. around here. And our next, our next trip is what? We got Boston coming up, Rob, right? We have something in between now in Boston? I don't think so. I think it's Boston, then Chicago.

Boston and Chicago. Those are always some of our favorites. Yeah, we got, oh, I guess we got the one night in Stanford in between Boston and Chicago. But yeah, yeah, yeah. So we got Boston, Stanford and Rosemont slash Chicago, all coming up. And those are these are some of our favorite runs of the year. So make sure to come on out. Hometown show, and I won't be inviting anyone

I know. I don't need them listening to my nonsense. Yeah, no, I understand. It's best that they don't know. It's best to keep them at bay. Oh, and a quick reminder before we get into the show. Of course, my wife's book, Healthy hibernation, is available in paperback now out on Amazon. So Go grab that. Healthy hibernation by Lauren Smith. Very nice children's book. She doesn't mention

the Iran war in there, not once. So go take your mind off of the world with that. Anyway, now let's talk more about the war. That isn't a war. So this war turned a week old since last we've talked to you. It's now going into the second week of it. Looks like it's going to catch and surpass that 12-day Iran war. Rob, looks like we're going to be in this one for a bit longer. What do you think? Well, Trump's like breaking his own records, even go bigger and better. This thing, I mean, you never know when Trump does a U-turn, but it looks like he both didn't take his off-ramp and can't take the off-ramp because the Iranians are not going to negotiate with him twice after striking him, striking them in the middle of negotiations. And the way I see it at the

moment is it's a it's a game now of if i guess we can take out their stockpiles before they run as dry because we uh conduct significantly more expensive warfare and this thing is looking like a disaster to me but you know i guess it's only week one so as the longer it goes the more money we spend and the the bigger of a disaster it can become yeah yeah you know it's um the thing that's really tough right now is that you know as as we've kind of been saying right this as you just you just pointed out there Trump seems like he didn't take the off ramp that maybe he could have after that initial strike uh killed it seems like it was an Israeli strike that killed um the iatola and his whole family um well not one son well yes that's right except minus the one minus the iatola who we have

right now and so much like well look i mean isn't this donald trump look it took um George W. Bush and Barack Obama and Trump won and Joe Biden. It took them 20 years to end the war in Afghanistan, which, you know, the regime change effort against the Taliban left us with a better armed Taliban. The Donald Trump, in just eight days, took us from an Ayatollah who had sworn that he was never going to get nuclear weapons and that it was against their religion and largely had even when attacked by other countries that had a pretty, you know, reserved response to them. And it gave us what is by all reports a younger, meaner, more aggressive Ayatollah,

who, by the way, just had his entire family murdered by the regimes that he's at war with. So that part doesn't seem great. But I mean, record setting in terms of how quickly we got here. I guess the issue that I see is that when you look for these kind of like off ramps, especially when you're dealing with a guy like Donald Trump, because like you say, we make this point all the time, right? Like Donald Trump really is,

Donald Trump, it seems like at this point, he's, I don't know how to say this exactly. Donald Trump is very capable of tomorrow announcing that boots on the ground are going in and that we're invading this country with 500,000 troops. and he seems equally capable at tomorrow being like, it's over, we won, that's it. And totally independent from what the facts on the ground are.

And like Venezuela is a great example, but there's just a lot of other ones too. But like it doesn't matter if we actually run the place or we actually get the oil or we actually run the regime because he'll just say we do. So who cares what the, you know, he'll just say it. And so you almost go like, oh, Okay, so right after that first day, there did seem to be a window where you could go, yeah, we can say we did it.

We killed the Ayatollah. And we can say they're going to be giving us the oil now and they're going to play nice now and whatever. If they do or they don't, that's down the road's problems. Who cares? Trump has never let silly little things like reality get in his way before. But I guess, man, the issue now, I mean, obviously, as you said, Rob, the Iranians are not going to negotiate. at this point and you know how can you expect them to or blame them for not doing it but at this point i guess the thing that's makes me feel pretty dark about this is first of all there are no signs

indicating that Donald trump wants to do that now who knows but and he's trump he could change his mind or he could do it anyway but it doesn't seem like that's what he wants to do but i got to say now with this war in a much different way that with the 12-day war last summer. Like I said, Donald Trump has put his full nut sack out on the table over this. And if he were to end it now, I don't, tell me what you think about this, Rob, because I don't know, I don't think even for Trump, there's a reasonable option of just pretending this thing was a big success.

Like, if Donald Trump were to end it now, if he were to go, all right, we decimated him like nobody's ever seen, we dropped so many bombs, we killed the ice, And we've destroyed their missile, you know, capacity. And they don't have the threat's off the table. Like whatever he could say, how is, first of all, everyone's going to look at this and go, wait a minute, dude. You just got like a bunch of people killed. Our boys are dead.

I think it's up to seven Americans are dead now after this war, not counting the blowback terrorist attacks and stuff like that. there's like you you spent I don't know billions of dollars at least at this point I think five six billion dollars confirmed already spent um our bases from what I've been reading are bases in Bahrain and um Kuwait are like completely destroyed I don't know exactly the extent to the damages of the bases in Saudi and and the UAE and stuff like that um I think the Qatar one is not as heavily damaged. But whatever, I mean, it's just like a bunch of people killed, a bunch of money wasted for, I just, and then also the other thing Donald Trump has to worry about now is like, if you go this far, but don't overthrow the regime, oh, ma'am, the whole lobby is going to be

furious at you. So it just, sorry, go ahead, but it just seems like not very good options. I say, I say this with humility because I read a lot over the weekend, but it's not like I'm a foreign affairs expert or expert on Iran in the Middle East. But I think this is all or nothing at this point, and it's for a different variable. I think the Iranians need to make this as costly as possible and just survive. And that basically, you know, gets everyone to back off and not want to do this in the future. And so they just need to, they need to make this costly. They need to draw it out. And they just need the regime to survive.

The problem for Trump in leaving now is that I think all of our Arab partners are going to be upset with the United States of America for basically not offering them real security and for creating havoc for their oil business. And so now if Donald Trump doesn't get rid of Iran, I think everyone else is kind of looking for new partnerships and is not seeing the United States in the same light. So Donald Trump is kind of forced at this point to take out Iran so he can turn back to Saudi Arabia and everyone else and go, look, we're still. good partners, you guys are safe in your region. But if he just allows more chaos in the region, data centers to get blown up and oil drilling to get blown up and people are still stuck relying on Iran for the Strait of Hermuz. I just think we're looking at, you know, a very weakened American Empire. And so he's put us into a situation now where I think it's all or nothing on both sides. Well, it's a very interesting dynamic of this war. And it's

unclear what exactly the result of all of this is going to be. But there's no question like Donald Trump has really like thrown the board over. You know, like he, it's the pieces are all being rearranged here and we'll see what ends up coming of this. But I think like, look, there, there is significance that, and I'm not trying to, you know, paint like a naive picture of the world. It's the, the, the, the Gulf Arab states are, you know, corrupt governments and, and, they know what politics is. But there has always, you know, at least to some degree, been this idea that like, okay, well, look, you guys, you guys obviously sacrifice a lot of your autonomy or a lot of your sovereignty by having U.S. bases in all of your countries.

But there's a level of protection that comes with that, you know? You got the most badass military in the world's got their bases in your. your region, you know, that's, you're going to be somewhat protected. And one of the things that's happened as a result of this war is that that dynamic has really been flipped on its head. In fact, you're not protected for having U.S. bases there. You're a target for having U.S. bases. And by the way, as this game becomes, as this war becomes a game of attrition, which, you know, is, I don't know, it's kind of strange.

It's like, I know we're only a week into this war, but this is how all like the military experts are talking about it. It's like, who has more missiles and who has more anti-missile missiles and who can take it, you know what I mean, like taking out their ability to launch these. And they've watched us as we are diverting resources away from protecting those bases to make sure we can protect Israel. And it's just like it's becoming very obvious, which I think was always known, at least on some level. but it's becoming very obvious that it's like, oh, no, no, no, these bases are here in your country so that we can bomb Muslim countries and stop their ability from responding to Israel. That's the point of our military presence here. That, it does seem like that's going to make it tougher to do business with the empire.

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Let's get back into the show. And the U.S. is picking a dirty fight. At the start of the war, they, you know, bombed kids. So kind of the chatter of don't target civilians is a little bit off the table. And then, you know, just the other day, they said that oil well on fire and the skies were blackened. And they were saying that there was falling acidic oil rain. and then they even also took out a desalination plant.

And these are all activities that we don't want Iran doing back to Israel or the Arab partners and seems like another strategic blunder to be engaging in that kind of warfare. Yeah, did you see, was it, it was either Mark Levin or Lindsey Graham. I mean, they're both the same human being. But they're, uh, they share one demonic soul. Yeah, something like that. Um, but they's, he, it's just so amazing, dude. he tweeted out a picture of the Iranian missiles coming into like Tel Aviv or Jerusalem and he goes,

war crimes. It's just too cartoonish to even comment on it. Like, oh, really? Yes, dude, you're very concerned with war crimes. Retaliatory war crimes. Okay. I mean, yeah, like maybe they are. But I mean, come on, dude.

You can only support so many war criminals and still be able to shriek war crimes. Yeah, Iran shouldn't be doing that, but there's certain players that are not allowed to complain about it, which includes Lazy Graham, Mark Levin, and Israel, which does not mean that it's okay if Iran does it, and I don't support it, and it's tragic and horrible. But if you guys want to call for, hey, let's not have warfare on civilians, you got to live by that standard also. And it would be great, I guess, if maybe Netanyahu was held responsible in international courts for that. and we actually held by that standard so that more leaders didn't do it. Well, look, and again, this is the thing here, right? And this is, look, this is kind of the essence of what Ben Shapiro jumped on that I said the other day and what, you know, a bunch of these guys liked to do, like, in a way, what was interesting

about all of that is that I said, you know, that the U.S. government's the biggest terrorist organization in the world. And then they all have to just, they have to flip out and shriek about that because you're not allowed to do that. You know, you're not allowed, as is the case with almost, by the way, this is almost the secret to our fucking analysis of U.S. foreign policy or this is, this is what I bring to every debate that I do, is just that I, at least I try my best to just be objective and go, hey, if I'm, if I'm judging, you know, our worldview, our like libertarian worldview makes it fairly easy for me to not feel that I am a part of the U.S. government,

because I'm not, and that's stupid. And that's just what they try to convince you. You know, that you're, we are all one. This is a government of the people or something like that. And we just flatly reject that. We don't like, we look at our government as like our looting expropriator. And then we look at the Iranian government as the Iranian people's looting expropriator. You know what I mean? Like, there are just two criminal organizations. One rules here, one rules there. So because we have that world, it's very easy for me to just go, oh, okay.

So if the conversation is over, who, whose criminal government is more evil or whose criminal government did what, I just go, okay, we could just judge both of them based on their track record and what they've done. But that is like kryptonite to the Warhawks who need you to believe that, like, you know, that's why, like, Benjup people will be like, this is so outrageous. I mean, he's equating these benevolent, you know, rulers of the U.S. and Israel with terrorist organizations. Like, sure, we have some collateral damage, but we're not terror. And, like, the thing about it is is that if you get out of that religious mindset, that kind of cult-like mindset, that, like, this is our government and that's our, you know, this is the USA and there's something like that.

I mean, you could just look at this whole situation and go, it's just so. obvious who the bad guys are here. Like, if you were watching this in a movie, I'm sorry. It's like, no, our military doesn't represent the good guys in this fight. Daryl Cooper was saying unprovoked the other day, which I thought was a really good way to put it. I mean, he was just talking about, which is always his thing, just how dishonorable this whole thing is.

You know, you're negotiating and you just attack a country that you don't need to when you're in the middle of good faith negotiations for a second time. But he said this, I thought it was a good way to put it. He goes, even if you want to take everything that the hawks throw at you, like every talking point of what Iran has done over the years to America, you know, the Marines in Lebanon, that's 100% Iran's fault. And even if you want to say, you know, whatever, all the roadside bombs in Iraq are the responsible of the Iranians. There were no Iraqi Shiites who built anything. it was all Iran who did all of it take all of it throw Donald Trump the assassination attempt or something like that whatever you know give them all the their talking points even though you know

many of them are not real but let's just say they all were that doesn't even all of it combined for 47 years doesn't even kind of compare to us giving saddam chemical weapons to use against them like the war had already started they knew we our government knew what a madman Saddam Hussein was. They already knew he was targeting civilians in the wars and they gave him chemical weapons knowing damn well what he was going to do with them. And he did. He killed like 700,000 Iranians or something like that. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like just that one thing. Like, oh my God, we did something so much worse to them than anything they've ever done to us. A lot of people have an allergy to this type of analysis because it's like, well, you know, I mean, I don't know.

walking into a cult and being like, what evidence do you really have that this cult leader actually is in touch with God? Because I don't believe he is. And it's like they don't, it's not about evidence to them. It's about like you're not allowed to criticize this thing. But if you want to know the truth, if we're in the business of talking about this shit, then I think like we got to talk about what's really going on. And the truth here is that Benjamin Netanyahu and Donald Trump, they fucking did that. They decided to do this whole goddamn thing. with what we've already seen, even going into week two of this, is like, this is riskier than any of the other terror wars, you know? And perhaps because of that, you know, like maybe that's the thing that keeps it from getting out of hand is because people understand how bad this could get.

But man, what a risk we've already taken for absolutely no upside. And this is, I just don't, I don't know, I don't see how this isn't that this isn't Trump's president. is destroyed already at this point. I don't see an alternative to that. This episode is sponsored by Better Help. Guys, if you're out there and you're thinking about perhaps starting therapy, and this could be for a range of different issues, everybody goes through different things in life, and let's get real. There's a lot of pressure and a lot of difficulties that come along with life. And sometimes it's really good to talk about those things, especially with somebody who's a trained therapist. So if you're on the fence, you've got to give Better Help a try.

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going his way. There was pressure from Netanyahu. They saw this as their last opportunity for this. It's incredible that Donald Trump, I guess, wanted this more than a presidential legacy or actually enacting in America First Agenda. But for whatever reason, I guess this was the top thing he wanted to accomplish on his list. This is the last thing he's getting done before the midterms.

And quite possibly after it. I mean, you know, I mean, he's, don't get me wrong. He can keep a war going with Democrats in Congress. There won't be any more resistance to that. The thing is that he has no chance of doing any important thing that the establishment doesn't want him to do again. And that's all the good stuff. You know what I mean? So like there's nothing good is coming out of this administration.

It's the way it is. And I will say I think he's also tanked. I think he's tanked the careers and the political ambitions and the popular support base for all of the people attached to this regime. I just don't see how what like, man, what can Tulsi Gabbard do after this? What's her next move? You know, what was J.D. Vance going to do after this? I mean, again, like we always say before, like, you know, I'm sure they'll get, take. taken care of in some way, but it's not going to be, you know, having the, the reputation that they

had before. My guess is for all these people, they're going to go, they're going to go the way of Dick Cheney, which is they are not going to be able to run for office again, and they're going to be looked at like the Bush administration. And all the characters of the Bush administration, none of them have done anything significant in politics since then. Every once in a while, you see Connolly's a Rice on the news, but for the most part, they're all tucked away in hiding, and they know that no one wants to hear from them. Yeah, I'm sure they're all on the board of some fucking company or something like that. But yeah, some finance company, some weapons company or something like that.

Funny how that works. Anyway, I guess one of the big things that people are pouncing on over the last few days is that Donald Trump has said, I believe, on two occasions, that he won't rule out boots on the ground. He did say, I thought this was very funny. but I did because I was we were in the green room at our Pittsburgh show the other night and I told you that I just watched the Trump interview and he said that he decided the Kurds are not going to go in that they were ready to they wanted to but he decided we

just can't add any more chaos to this so he decided against the Kurds and I told Rob that and Rob just immediately goes sounds like the Kurds didn't want to go and there's been I've read a couple different articles since then that are like yes in fact that is what happened that the Kurds are like not dude we're not invading around for you like that's a totally different proposition than like you want to give us some guns and we'll fight our enemies in this civil war in our country sure but we're not invading around um and i think for probably for obvious reasons that they were like look man like where every goddamn town that we live in is is targetable by short-range missiles or medium-range missiles and

we're going to invade around through the fucking mountains. We're going to go invade around. Like we've tried to do that before, man, and it don't work out good. And, you know, that is the other thing, by the way, in that 1980 to, I think it went from 80 to 88, the Iraq around war. You know, Saddam attacked him, and then he invaded the country, and they had the backing of the U.S., like they had far superior weapons. I mean, don't get me wrong.

We did sell around some weapons also in that war, but a lot of Iraqis died. A lot of them died in it. And so, you know, that didn't matter to Saddam Hussein that much, but it was like a million people died in that war. And so it's, you know, there's memories of like, oh, yeah. You know, I mean, it's, if you think about the way we think about the 80s in America, you know, we may not like remember some war in the 80s that much, but the war didn't happen in our country.

You know, like if our country was invaded and hundreds of thousands of people were killed in the 80s, we'd have a pretty strong attachment to that memory, you know? Anyway, so looks like that's not happening. As far as the boots on the ground comment goes, I mean, look, I certainly, again, it's a weird thing, Rob. It's very difficult to cover Donald Trump because Donald Trump isn't a conventional president. He'll typically they wouldn't say things like this and he'll say it. It doesn't mean anything. I think there's a very low chance that we're actually going to see like a major ground invasion here. I mean, we might, we certainly might see some special ops or special forces, something like that on the ground.

That's quite likely. The idea of a real deal military invasion, I don't think is going to happen for two basic reasons, which is that I think, logistically, it's, next to impossible and there is just not nearly the level of public support for any politician to get away with doing something like this. So I don't think it's going to happen, but you know, who knows? I just did a run your mouth with Kyle Anselaone, which was a deep dive. And I think he's, he's expecting, or I believe he said that he's expecting that there will likely be some special force incursions to try and get the enriched uranium out of the country. But on the second point that you said of that there's no public support for it, I don't think Trump cares anymore.

I do not think Trump cares about the base. And I do not think he, I think he's just, he's just in Trump world. Like this is the, I honestly think he doesn't care. He'll just get back on camera and say, no, they love this. I think he's being told that this is wildly popular. I'm not sure if he's really aware of what's going on out here. To your point, I get your point. There's still, even if you're going to say, I don't care about public opinion, there's a major, major difference between fighting a war like this from the skies and fighting a war like this from the ground.

And I'm telling you something this unpopular, you can't stop, start losing Americans in the numbers that you would with a ground invasion. I think at that point there'd be like a demand to impeach him. I think like it would really, really be a disaster for him. That being said, we'll see. This is, and by the way, this has been one of, this has been a theme of mine for several years on the show now. This was true even before Trump won, but it was ultimately really the main reason why I supported Donald Trump and the main thing that was accomplished by him winning in 2024 was that it really destroyed the legacy media. It really destroyed the corporate media.

And now we're running a system without a propaganda machine. And this is new. This has really never been the case before. I've never really seen a government operate like this, like launch a war without the propaganda machine to cover for you. I mean, they have the propaganda machine. We'll check in on it in a second. But they're being dwarfed by.

the other media. I mean, if you just look at like even, even, like, I've got to give him some credit. I've seen even Matt Walsh over at the Daily Wire has been making a lot of really good points, raising a lot of really good questions about this. Now, he'll, you know, he'll stop short of going all the way there. Like, there's always like a tweet where you're like, yeah. And so the conclusion is obviously that these people are lying us into a war. So we're against it, right?

But regardless, he's asking really good questions even because even he, he, you know, whatever, I'm not like saying his motivation. Like, I'm sure he believes the points that he's making. Some of them are very good points. But it's like he also has an audience and they're hearing the other side of this. You have to address these things. It's you can't, I mean, dude, the numbers that Tucker Carlson and Megan Kelly and Candice Owens that these people are doing, like, they're the most dominant figures in political media right now.

and they're all kind of exposing this thing for what it is. So anyway, I don't know. I think this is a big open question. How long can a system like this survive without the mechanism to garner public support for their policies? I don't know. But to see a ground invasion, I guess to me still seems like, no, man, they would need more support for that. I don't know. Honestly, I'm in many ways surprised that we're actually here, even though I've kind of been predicting it.

it's still surprising that like fuck they actually went through with that but we'll see on the note of they don't have a good propaganda machine they don't even have a good cohesive story coming out of the actual government are we at war we're not at war we are at war they're trying to get nukes they're not trying to get nukes we've seen no intelligence that they are going nuclear they're about to go nuclear they don't even have a cohesive story which uh listen a point point well said on that you know boots on the ground is a different extreme and Donald Trump might not want that heat. But their lack of cohesive story and even pitching these things,

I think shows the disconnect between Trump actually. He's just like either buying so much of his own bullshit that he can say whatever and people accept it. And it's true because he said it or they just don't actually care about the public perception at this point. Yeah. Well, you know, it's it's one of those things. Okay. Let's hold on one second here.

So let's get into a couple of these clips. I think you start with that Fox News one of showcase what the propaganda machine is still pushing. Yeah, sure. I mean, it really is, you know, I've checked in a little bit on, I don't know, on some of these maniacs. But there's Fox News and CNN are just like. Dude, it's unbelievable. You just couldn't believe that like there's, it's like, look, anyone supporting this war, you almost go like, oh, so you would support just like any war, like any war.

Like any war. Because this one doesn't, like you said, Rob, this doesn't even have a coherent, like official justification, anything like that. It's like so transparently a bullshit war of aggression. But yeah, it's just been unbelievable. So here's Brian Kilmead over. on Fox News, which is this was, so he's giving you quotes from a conversation he just had with Donald Trump. Here, let's play this clip. I just spoke to the President of the United States 20 minutes ago about the Gulf states and their involvement. And what he told me was this.

Iran had thousands of missiles pointed at all these Middle Eastern countries for the last four months. They were going to take over the Middle East, meaning Iran. They were going to control it all. The UAE, Qatar, Alman, and Saudi Arabia. They had 1,200 missiles. points it at these countries. All these nations were afraid of Iran, and they are not anymore. And they had reason to be afraid. We have knocked the hell out of them

like no other nation could, and they still have remnants left. Just wanted you to respond to that. Let's pause at a second. Yeah, because we always got to just respond to Donald Trump. I mean, dude, again, all these wars are sold off lies. They always are.

This one is, it's one of the least beliefs. of any of them. Like, wait, he said, he's telling you that Iran was about to take over the Middle East. They've had their missiles pointed at all of these countries for months. Like, you mean since the last time you attacked them, they pointed their missiles at the military bases of the country that had attacked it?

But the idea that, look, we're already getting a taste of what Iran is capable of doing. it's killing some people, it's destroying some things. But what is the argument here really that this missile capacity, was that going to be enough to what? Invade all of the surrounding countries and take over all of them, Rob? And they used to be very afraid of Iran now they're not. No, they used to not be getting attacked by Iran. Now they are.

Like, what an inversion of reality? It's just so pathetic. Well, I think the biggest proof of this being a lie is that this wasn't said until after you started the war. So now that you need an excuse for the war, you're telling us that actually Iran was going to take over all of its surrounding countries. Is there any intelligence to suggest that? And just 1,200 bombs give you the capacity to take out all those countries. And he didn't say take out those countries. He said take over those countries.

So Mr. Donald Trump, can you explain to me how you can take over all of those countries with just 1,200 missiles? Because you seem to be having a problem with Iran right now. That's just one country. How many, how many missiles have been lobbed back and forth in Ukraine and Russia? Who's taken over a country with 1,200 missiles? That all it takes is 1,200 missiles and cheap missiles, too. Cheap drones, someone can just take over another country with 1,200 missiles. Please put the intelligence officer on air who sat down with you.

in the Oval Office and said to you, we have to go now because they're about to take over the entire Middle East. And you know what the good news is, if 1,200 missiles can take over the entire Middle East, why are we just having this little skirmish with Iran? Why don't we just take over the entire area and quit dealing with these dictators, liberate everyone and claim the oil for ourselves? We've more than 1,200 missiles.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, maybe it's because this is all a lie. I mean, that might be the reason, Rob. Well, look, I mean, you know, one of the best things, Donald Trump ever said when he was running for president and then again as president was that the media is the enemy of the American people. You know, back then when Donald Trump used to tell the truth every down then, that was great. But what can you say about someone like Brian Kilmead?

I mean, I don't know. You know, like, and I don't even say anything like personal. I don't know. I think I've been on shows with him before. I don't know. But like, just like, aren't you're just the enemy of the people. Look at you. They're like a traitor to your republic.

This is what, so wait, the president said this to you and okay, was your response? Sir, I'm not an idiot. You can't just lie to me like this. Like, sir, I'm sorry. This is just absolutely not sure. No, just repeats it verbatim on his show as if he's delivering you news. Like, as if he's going, the president said this. Like, okay.

What? I can't. I find the propaganda set. up so interesting that you got guy it's basically all these people work for the administration so he goes hey here's a talking point that don't trump gave me you other person who works for donald trump do you agree with him why yes sir i do agree with him it's good that donald trump said that and you can put me on your platform so i can reinforce exactly what he said to your aging boomer cons who will sit there be paranoid and still support us thank you for having me on to reassert what was

just said by him as i was reported by you yeah the template is like god like you know you're not doing news right now. Like you know when you do something like that like dude, you're doing some type of performance. But like this is just, I don't know. Like look, in the same way that I go, like Ben Shapiro and Barry Weiss. And for that matter, Mike Huckabee and Ted Cruz

should be viewed as as foreign spies. Because that in effect, that's what they are, you know? What was there was reporting this week about Lindsay Graham going when he was going remember he kept making all those trips to Israel that he was coaching Netanyahu on how to talk to Donald Trump to persuade him like all right well you're a foreign spy then man what is this you know um but okay but in the same sense you go well what should we think about Fox News what do you like this this dynamic that you're just talking about well how do you view that okay that's in effect your state media I should I should take you about as

seriously, like in North Korea somewhere, there's like a news reporter who's reporting how great the chosen one is. And how, you know, he's like reporting how Kim Jong-un has never, you know, missed a shot in whatever sport he plays or something like that. How, why should I treat you any differently than that guy? You're in effect the same thing. Just state media. You're just in the business of propaganda. Like, you know, anyway, okay, here, let's go back to the clip. There'll be more lies. Well, this is why the president, one of the reasons, I think he did why he did this now, imagine, we're seeing how the Iranian regime is behaving now. Imagine it already for a second. It's just so funny how bullshit this war is that they had to give you, like, they had to give you 15

different reasons why we did this. But then he just, this is a new one, you know, that Donald Trump just made up on the phone with Kilmead. And he goes, oh, they were about to take over everyone. And then the guy even has to go, well, this is one of the reasons why we did this right now. One of. But you're telling me they were about to take over seven surrounding countries? No, this seems like that'd be the reason. Like if you're going to go, if you're going to go with this bullshit excuse that you can't go that, you know, oh, we found out imminent. They have nuclear weapons and they were going to detonate seven of them on U.S. soil.

That's one of the reasons why we went in. Like, no, that'd be the reason. Like, even he doesn't believe it. So he's just kind of like, yeah, throw it on that list. Throw it on the list of all the stuff that we had there. I don't know. At least that'll take him longer. I swear to God, it feels like, does this make sense, Rob?

I know I'm hit or miss with these metaphors. But like, it feels like, you know, like when you're, like, when a school kid would be running from like a dog. And so then you'd empty your lunchbox, you know, and like just throw the things down. So at least he's got to eat that, give you a little bit more time to get away. It feels like that is the seven excuses. for this war. Like it's just the, it's like, ah, like now guys like me and you, you're like, I got to stop and debunk all seven of these before I can just get back to the point that you're a fucking blood-soaked monster. But anyway, yeah, just throw it on the list. Yeah, they were also

about to take over the world. Rob, we'd all be speaking Persian if it wasn't for Donald Trump launching this war. There was about to be the fucking, yeah, this is right. We're in burkas and growing out our bushes. All of us. Is that the world you want to live in, Dave Smith? Are you not a patriot? No, I do not want to live in a world of burkas and bushes. All right, Rob, I support this war. All right, let's keep playing. If the president had kicked the can, like so many of his predecessors had, and at the rate that Iran was producing these drones and ballistic missiles, had tens, if not hundreds of thousands years from now, that's the shield that Secretary Rubio has been talking about, behind which

they would then develop a full-blown nuclear program, which we know they intended to do. They were not negotiating in good faith. The reason President Trump went now is because they're at their weakest point, and he's not the type of president to kick the can and let future generations. Okay.

Now, do that for the debt. I'm sorry. You want to talk about not kicking the can down the road and you're the guy who's willing to face a problem? Bring back Doge and fix our debt problem. Yeah. No, Rob. You see, that might be on the...

unpopular and difficult. So instead, we'll go to war with Iran. You know, it's like, look, again, even if Donald Trump was doing like the mass deportation thing, which he backed off of, there he goes like, hey, look, it's going to be very unpopular. There's going to be innocent people who get swept up in it. There's going to be, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's all the same issues as the war in Iran, obviously not as bloody. You're not going to kill as many people, hopefully. but you know what I'm saying? Like at least that would be something you could say you were doing for our country.

Anyway, but do you notice this just again? This is like the thing. It's just so, it's so insulting, man. Like just how stupid they think you are. And the fact that, you know, I don't mean to say this in like a fucked up way because I really am not like, I never try to judge like the people. I'm not like judging your Fox News watch an uncle or whatever. but it's like how stupid they think those guys are.

And it works on them for at least a lot of them. But just think about like, dude, he says here at the end, like, I know. So now he's back to, with all of his justifications, that they were so weak. And that's why we took this moment now. So you're saying they were about to take over seven neighboring countries and yet they were so weak that we could do this now.

come on dude just come on you're not that fucking stupid like no one's that stupid people who are that stupid don't fucking even listen to shows like you know what i mean about politics i don't know this is just not what they're so weak and yet it's like the same with the fucking goddamn putin propaganda is there they're uh you know a a gas station with nukes but also they're about to take over all of europe like what Which one is it? All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Prolon.

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Like clearly saying they were so weak and that's why we did it now, totally contradicts that they're about to take over a bunch of countries. But whatever, we'll use both of them. But now this is the other thing that they are running with, Rob, is that, well, they were, okay, they were building missiles. and the reason why we have to go to war with them over the missiles is because the missiles were going to create a shield from behind which they could then start making nuclear weapons. Now, by the way, the translation of this defense is essentially, well, we know we don't actually have an argument

that they were making nuclear weapons. We don't actually have that argument. And so we're going to say, like, essentially, well, I can point to some regular missiles. And so we're just going to say those missiles essentially are nuclear weapons. Because if you have a regular missiles, well, then that's what you use to deter someone to stop you from making a nuclear weapon. So now, essentially, you're just expanding the justification for war down to any war at any time against any government is justified. because I guess theoretically they could be doing that. Or what's more likely is that Iran has been developing missiles

because they were attacked last summer by Israel and the United States of America. Like what government in the world isn't going to work on weaponry after they've been attacked? So essentially that's all they have that they can point to. is that a round's got some missiles and that's why we got to go to war i'm sorry this is i've been around for a while and i have paid attention to this stuff for for at least a couple decades now i've read a lot about all these words this is the most pathetic justification for war anyone has ever tried to use is what this administration is using right now they had missiles long range missiles capable of reaching the united states no no one's claiming that but this

this is the problem. And essentially, like, if you read between the lines here, it actually, you know, because he says they weren't negotiating in good faith. But think about like, like there's no such thing as negotiating in good faith when this is your side of it. What he's saying is they can't have the ability to defend themselves at all. What he's saying is they have to put themselves in a position where if Israel and the U.S. them, they can't answer back. When we've done that twice now, twice in the middle of negotiations, we've started attacking them.

Well, who can ask? What type of ask is that? You know, it's like, it's like, I used to say this about the Israel-Palestine debate a lot. But I'd go like, well, hey, look, dude, if you don't favor a two-state solution or a one-state solution in greater Israel, whatever you want to call it, in Palestine. Palestine and Israel, if you don't favor a one-state solution or a two-state solution and the almost immediate implementation of them, like me, or I'll give you like five years or something like that if you want to say, oh, we have a plan where we could get there in a few years.

But if you favor anything short of that, you really can't get mad about Palestinian terrorism. Because what's your ask? Right? Like you're essentially saying to a group of people, imagine saying this to a group of people. Imagine saying this to a group of people, compromised not solely, but partially of men. Imagine saying to a group of men, I need you to have your wife and children live in subjugation, denied basic human rights, and I need you to not be violent about it. That's just an unreasonable thing to ask anyone.

Now, if you're advocating immediately for a two-state solution and you go, and I need you to not be violent about, well, okay, then that's a reasonable thing to ask someone. But if you're not giving them that. But so in this type of negotiation, to ask a regime to say, look, I want you to make sure that you don't have the ability to hit back against Israel when they hit you. It's just this is an insane thing to ask someone, to ask any nation. This would be craziness. This would be like on the level of if after October 7th, my demand of Israel. was that they disarm and open the borders between Gaza and Israel. Look, dude, if you were in any type of negotiation, you just can't start there

because that's obviously just non-negotiable for the Israelis. They have to, at the very least, make sure there's not another terrorist attack coming next, right? This is all just too silly. I don't know. Any other thoughts, Rob? We need a full rollover policy from all other countries. There's no such concept of autonomy. me. We need you to give up all ability to defend yourselves and be in a vulnerable state because you got to get in line.

Sign on the dotted line. Which was the other big news of the last few days that Donald Trump demanded total surrender. He tweeted it. That's how he demanded it. And by the way, Rob, keep in mind, not a war. Still not a war. I know the thing about your commander in chief demanding surrender. Yeah, usually that would indicate a war typically, but not this time, not a war. That's literally what these guys on Fox News will defend. That's how good Donald Trump is at this, that he doesn't even need to fight a war to get a total surrender from someone. Yeah, there you go. Well, look, I mean, there's also something where I start to, I don't know, maybe this is like the age that I am because I was joking about this on stage a little bit.

But like, when you get into your 40s, your parents start getting older, then you kind of become like the, the, the, grown up like you kind of become the parent in some way but i swear to god now i feel like almost like these guys on fox it makes me angry because it's like you you're committing elder abuse don't you lie to these poor old people you're lying in these old people you'll defend this this bullshit it's not a war but we're demanding a total surrender okay yeah let's keep lying have to deal with a much stronger nuclear armed iran to then truly hold not just the region but the world hostage. Ambassador, they think Israel's the problem, but those Gulf states know Iran's the problem. I also asked the president about the rise in oil prices, $100 a barrel. And he said this about

the Strait of Hamos, Hamos. These ships got to go through the strait of Ramos and show some guts. There's nothing to be afraid of. They have no Navy. We sunk all their ships and all but 20% of their launchers. What is your reaction? And that message to the merchant ships, and that's the Gulf stage two to start getting that oil going through there. Well, to the president's point, we've destroyed their Air Force, destroyed their air defenses, destroyed 80, 90 percent of their launchers and missile capability and sank their entire Navy. This is about, I think, emotion. It's irrational. We have eliminated the threat for these both merchant ships and commerce needs to start moving. In addition to that, the Development Finance Corporation, led by Ben Black, the president, secretary, and he had...

I don't know, Rob. You know, it's like sometimes you're in these things. I've had this feeling many times, and it is something that's almost always real. I mean, look, you could just think this through. Because, like, look, I don't exactly know, like, technically what the answers. I'm not sure any of them know. But, like, exactly what is the Iranian capacity to hit ships coming by the Strait of Hermus right now? now, you know, given the damage that's been done to their Navy or, you know, I don't know.

But when I listen to this guy and Donald Trump saying, like, essentially, there's like, stop being pussies, just go through or whatever. It's like, guys, there are, like, just knowing the way markets work a little bit, there's a heavy, very healthy incentive for them to go. Right, Rob? like there's a lot of money to be made off ships going through that straight like a huge amount of money right there's 20% of the world's oil goes through that straight or something like that you're talking like talking um hundreds of billions of dollars you know annually um if insurance companies are not insuring them insurance companies also by the way are incentivized to insure something especially rob if the chance if the chance of their ships being sunk are low than insurance companies are looking to insure it because that's how you make money. So if this is the case that this is just emotional, there's not really, Rob, that is not how insurance works, okay?

These are calculations that are made. It's a big math equation, okay? It's a measure of risk. That's what they're in the business of doing. And so if you're telling me there's no real threat, but these ships just won't go and these insurance companies just won't insure them, I'm going to go out in a limb and call Bull. I don't think that's really what's going on. Any thoughts on that? Yeah, I was laughing at this one because I also, I don't know.

I'm not out in Iran. So maybe the straight of Hermuz is completely safe to travel, but I don't think the only way of disrupting these boats is with the Navy. I don't know what's going outside of Yemen, but I don't remember that it was boat attacks. I thought it was like launchers from around. Yeah. But I mean, this is Donald Trump. Just if I say it, it's true. And, you know, maybe someone takes the bait and goes for it.

I was thinking it would be real funny. Like, if the jackass guy's literally got a boat shaped like a giant pair of balls to test Donald Trump on this, that it was safe to travel through the state rate of her moves. But I guess we'll find out someone's probably going to take the offer from Donald Trump. I think he offered to socialize the cost of insurance for all these vehicles. So, you know, they might be able to not even have to take the financial loss if it gets hit, courtesy of the United States government. Courtesy of us. We'll take the hit.

Yeah. Yeah, which apparently, I guess, has endless money to support this war. And, but I mean, listen, if a boat does get struck, Donald Trump will just go, didn't happen. That's, that boat's still there. Oil's showing up tomorrow. You know, this seems like one of the boldest face lies I've seen from him yet. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is crowd health, a great company.

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Visit join crowdhealth.com and use the promo code POTP today. All right. Let's get back on the show. Yeah, well, it does seem like no matter what happens here, he's Donald Trump's going to claim victory. I think, you know, we know that. I mean, I think at this point, the question becomes who the hell is going to believe them? Because I really just that, I do not, I don't know. I don't see how this does not just end the way it looks like it's going to end. But anyway, here, let's play a little bit more of that clip. Now, that will put insurance in place just as an additional safeguard. So these ships need to start moving.

I understand from talking to Secretary Wright, our energy. secretary that one, what they call Suez Max, which is a super tanker, has moved, and we're asking the rest to follow suit. We'll give them the protection they need, and we are knocking the snot out of Iran's capabilities. But again, one more reason why we had to do it now and not wait until they had even additional capability to not just hold the region hostage, but the world's energy supplies. Enough is enough. They've been doing this for 47 years. They started this war 47 years ago. So thank God President Trump is doing what's necessary to end it. And to close this, Russia is helping Iran with targets against us, our facilities in Bahrain,

office buildings in Saudi Arabia with the CIA is located. At the same time, Ukraine is helping us with drone technology. What does that tell you about that conflict and whose side who's on? Well, you know, Russia has now lost its largest manufacturing supplier of drones the Shahid drones then so does it breaking news Russia is not on our side if you needed more information on the Russia Ukraine war and whether or not Russia was taken our side as we wore as we armed Ukraine through the whole thing what can we learn from this also an incredible admission of the fact that Iran was actually targeting military targets within those countries and not

just civilian infrastructure that they weren't just striking at a hotel but I guess that it was actually a CIA location. A hotel that's been embedded in, you know, or a CIA location that's been embedded in a civilian area, which I've just listened for two and a half years to all of these people tell me that makes it justified to kill as many of those civilians as you want to. So by their own logic, you know, they're, they're in a lot of trouble here. But, dude, I'm sorry. Hold on one second. Yeah. They kill me. Oh, my God, dude. I literally think I think I had a brain aneurism listening to that. That is the most painful line of logic I've ever said.

I mean, that is literally, he's going, so what does that tell you about the conflict? Like, he's actually being that circular that he's going, so doesn't that prove that we were always right to be for Ukraine and against Russia? Because look, this is literally on the level of you being like, hey, I grabbed a woman and drug her into a dark alley and threw her up against the wall. but as soon as I took my hands off of her, she kicked me in the balls and ran away. So doesn't that tell you I should have drug her into the alley all along? Like, no, it's probably because you did that first thing that she reacted that way.

What do you mean? Oh, my God. Is Russia helping you is helping Iran? Well, I don't know. Yeah, we've spent since, fuck it, we've spent, what is it? How many years has this conflict been going on now? Since 22? You spent four years arming the Ukrainians to the teeth, encouraging them to strike.

deep into Russia. And why? So like, what does it prove that Ukraine would do what they could to help the country that they're completely dependent on and that Russia would do what they could to hurt the country who's backing the proxy war on their border? That's kill me. It's argument. God damn, man.

I mean, I really don't watch cable news the way I used to, you know, because it's irrelevant now. It was always dumb. but it wasn't this dumb. Like, I've never heard anything like that. That proves it. Well, right there, there you go. That proves that, you know, I beat the shit out of this guy and then he shot me. And that proves I should have attacked him because look, he's the type of person who shoots me.

Okay. Yeah. Maybe none of this would be happening if we hadn't gotten in that stupid war too. I'm also hearing. So you're telling me that there's another risk of this war, which is we're essentially already in World War III because we normalized, arming, not fighting a war with Russia, but arming the people that were having a fight with Russia so that we could pretend like we're not actually having a fight and now they're doing the exact thing

back to us. We're both Russia and China sharing military intelligence with Iran. And when does it become, oh, and look, both Russia and China are working against us as we're trying to defeat. this enemy that was going to take over the Middle East. And you guys are flirting with disaster here, and the biggest disaster is basically having a full war with Russian China. Yep. I mean, there's also, look, just to get back to the point that I made earlier, because it really is the thing that kind of, I don't know,

it seems like it just relies, the whole thing revolves around this, is that you just, look, I said this through the entire Israel-Palestine debate, and it's so true during this one, too, because I guess in a way this is just an extension of that, right? But like the whole thing just revolve- the whole case relies on this crazy double standard. Like I'd always say like the only way you can really come out of this thing supporting Israel is if you just don't value Palestinian life.

I mean, just not as much as Israeli life at least. Otherwise, if you start with like the concession that, hey, like we're all humans here. We all have an, like, I'm not an egalitarian at all, but I'm saying like we all have like an equal right to life. On some moral level, we all have equal value. Like you can't that we, that is the, that is the essence of civilization, you know, or modern civilization is that belief that, hey, look, like there might be like a mentally ill, you know, like a, there might like an eight year old who's like, like, like, an eight year old who's like, like, like, got, you know, some horrible genetic condition or something like that, like a retarded, you know, kid. I don't say that.

You know, I don't mean that to be offensive. I mean, like a kid with mental illness. Not mental illness. I'm saying, like genetic defect, like a kid with Down syndrome or something like that. Retarded cripple. There you go. Crippled, you know, we'll never have the mind of an adult. We'll have a 60 IQ for the rest of his life.

We'll never, you know. Okay. And then you could have like a scientist who's like a gene. who might cure cancer tomorrow. But like, if you just take a gun and go murder, either one of them, it's the same crime. It's murder. Because we all recognize that, look,

even though this guy might be a genius and he might have huge contributions to society, and even though this kid has gotten, you know, a horrible condition, and he's still a person on some level. You know, like there's, that to me is kind of the essence of civilization. It's like some level of respect for that. And, you know, this whole case,

like I was saying with the Ben Shapiro thing, it just revolves around this double standard. You can't have one standard and then hold every party accountable to it. Because that's why when I say, you know, the U.S. government's the biggest terrorist organization in the world. The response from the other side is, oh, you hate America. No one wants to get out a pen and a piece of paper and explain why I'm wrong. You know what I'm saying? Like no one actually wants to do that because I'm attacking the double standard.

But in the same thing, Rob, as you can see right here with this guy, he's got to go, well, yeah, dude, you're not allowed to do that when it's us. You can't back a country who were at war with because that's like you're trying to attack us. All of a sudden, that applies when it's America. But if you were not applying it when it comes to Russia, why the hell should they apply it when it comes to us? Now, that's a question none of them have an answer for. All right, we got to wrap up there. We'll be back tomorrow with a brand new episode. Um, yeah, come see me and Rob, Boston, Chicago, Stanford, Connecticut,

com for all those ticket links. All right, catch you guys tomorrow. Peace.