Piers Morgan Uncensored - Cenk Uygur + Mike Huckabee - Netanyahu's 'Stand Down' Plot + Israel 'Terrorism'

Episode Date: September 14, 2026

Did Benjamin Netanyahu receive direct advance warning of the catastrophic October 7th attacks? Piers Morgan Uncensored examines a bombshell report from Haaretz claiming the UAE Prime Minister personally warned Netanyahu one week prior to the attack about a terrifying operation poised to destabilise the region. As former Israeli PM Naftali Bennett asserts Netanyahu bears "personal and direct responsibility," intense scrutiny turns to the shocking six-hour military delay during the onslaught. Was it catastrophic failure, or something far more sinister?  Piers Morgan speaks to The Young Turks’ Cenk Uygur and US ambassador for Israel, Mike Huckabee about this plus Israeli settlers being called ‘terrorists’. (00:00:00) Introduction  (00:04:06) Cenk Uygur addresses his chair malfunction  (00:17:00) Are Israeli settlers terrorists? (00:34:30) Mike Huckabee on calling Israeli settlers terrorist   (00:41:59) Huckabee on calling Miliband a ‘Jew hater’ (00:44:45) UK sanctions on West Bank settlements (00:54:15) The Watergate scandal and whistleblowers (00:57:42) The Iran War: How has it damaged Trump in the run up to the election? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Here we go again. Did somebody in the government say, stand down? That is a legitimate non-conspiracy question. Charlie is right. It takes 45 minutes to cross Israel in a helicopter. Why did the IDF, this amazing military, not show off for six or seven hours? That's insane. The people running the government of Israel that have lost their minds, that have gone rogue,

why are we still listening to them? They've lit the world on fire. Even the Huckabees of the world are going to have to say, yeah, well, of course it's terrorism. I don't think the people who are doing most of this or even settlers. I call them not the settlers, but the unsettlers. Finally, a president who, after 47 and the half years of Iran threatening death to America, President Trump stood up and said, no, President Trump ought to be given the Nobel Peace Prize. The international furority about the UK sanctions on Israeli terrorism and the West Bank

had only one tenuous benefit for Prime Minister Netanyahu. It took some of the headlines away from a bombshell report that he was explicitly warned of a major Hamas attack seven days before October. over the 7th, not by some trigger-happy military advisor or by so-called intelligence chatter, but by the Prime Minister of the UAE, a warning given directly man-to-man on a secure phone delivered for that unique purpose. Gallagations published by Heretz talk about specific knowledge of a, quote, terrifying operation which could destabilize the whole region. That operation we now know is October the 7th, an atrocity for which, according to Naftali Bennett,

Netanyahu now bears personal and direct responsibility. Well, the Israeli Prime Minister strongly denies the claims and says he will sue the newspaper. But it's already become another hammer blow to a man who, until that day, built a vast political machine around his personal brand as Mr. Security. It only adds to the fury about the shocking delay in responding as the attack unfolded. In some areas, there was no response in some at all for six hours. It took two entire days for all Hamas fighters to be removed. And the obvious question is why? Was it grotesque and fatal incompetence or something far far.

more sinister. Well, last week on my show, the Prime Minister's spokesman refused to comment on the story while repeatedly invoking Charlie Kirk to justify Israeli policy in the West Bank. Well, here is Charlie Kirk speaking to Patrick Bed-David not long after the attacks. So I've been Israel many times. The whole country's a fortress. When I first heard this story, I still had the same gut instinct that I did initially. I find this very hard to believe. I've been to that Gaza border. You cannot go 10 feet without running into a 19-year-old with an AR-15 or an automatic machine gun that is an IDF soldier. Right?

The whole country is surveilled. The last nine months, Israel was on the brink of civil war. It's not an exaggeration. This judicial stuff, there were hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu is basically redefining the Israeli constitution. That's not an exaggeration, right? He said the judicial branch has too much power. There were protests planned this week against Netanyahu,

where they anticipated tens of thousands of people to take to the streets. that's all gone, Patrick. Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead. I'm not willing to say, to go so far, that's saying that Netanyahu knew or there was intelligence here,

but I think some questions need to be asked. Was there a stand-down order? Was there a stand-down order? Six hours? I don't believe it. Israel's the side of New Jersey. When I took a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the Gaza border,

it's 45 minutes. Six hours. They're live streaming the killing of Jews was that somebody in the government say, stand down. That is a legitimate non-conspiracy question. That's possible to draw a thick, straight line from October the 7th to the Iran War that Netanyahu said he's already dreamed about, as well as much of the political chaos now enveloping President Trump. With critical elections looming, both men could be facing the end of the line.

Well, shortly, I'll be speaking to Mike Huckabee, who's the U.S. ambassador to Israel. but first I'm joined here in New York by Czech Yuga, the founder and CEO of the young Turks. Well, Chek, great to see you. We're actually sitting just two feet away from each other, but because of the vagaries of modern technology, we're looking down the barrel of different cameras. But great to see you. And before we go any further, we must clear up one thing.

Last time you're on my show, you appeared to collapse on your chair in what has become known as Chairgate in our world. Can you explain exactly what happened to you? that day? Well, Israel came into the van before I did, and obviously, Jerry rigged the chair. No, it was a simple mishap. As you were collapsing, what was going through your mind? Here we go again. It's always something, right? But, you know, we have this saying about the young Turks. Our fans say that we're too strong, so maybe that's what happened. Well, it's great that you're alive and well and survive, Cherokee. I'm glad we clear that up.

Let's talk about what is going on now with Netanyahu, this extraordinary, stunning. I mean, earth-shattering report, I don't think I'm exaggerating it, that the Prime Minister of the UAE, about 10 days before October the 7th, gave him a specific warning that something of this magnitude was likely to happen. And the reporting by Horatz is that Netanyahu

didn't do anything with that information, which would appear, if this is true, and he obviously denies it, But if it's true, to be the most extraordinary dereliction of prime ministerial duty imaginable. Yeah, so I'm actually not overly surprised by it at all. And that's because Netanyahu is a radical Zionist. And look, that Charlie Kirk clip that you played, we've shown on the Young Turks several times. And so that's just a couple of days after October 7th.

And by the way, he also said that they were going to ethnically cleanse the over two million Palestinians there. Like, he already knew. On October 12, he knew. So, and he remember he had a lot of connections with the Israelis, because a lot of the folks who donated the Talking Point USA were supporters of Israel. So, look, we've seen this, unfortunately, far too many times with radical Zionists. They're willing to, you know, throw their own under the bus. I mean, they call Bernie Sanders an anti-Semite. And what do they call Miliband the other day?

You hate it. Yeah, and he's Jewish. Yeah. I mean, they're absurd. There's no. They took out Andy Levin from Congress, who's another Jewish American from a storied Jewish family, and that's because he had the temerity to say Tuesday solution. But also there are reports that, and we showed a video on the Young Turks about how they were talking about, you know,

firing on their own hostages. They're nuts. And so if people don't know this history, and I know everybody's going to get offended, but it's history. I didn't do it. They did it. The Zionists broke an anti-Nazi boycott in 1933. Other Jewish groups at the time were furious with them. One of their terrorist groups made a deal with the Nazis to fight against the British in Palestine. My point there is that they have not minded throwing Jews under the bus for their radical fascist agenda time and time again. So I'm not remotely surprised that Netanyahu looked the other way if there was going to be an attack. Because remember, he's not doing it for no reason.

doing it for the Greater Israel Project. And he views, if we can take Gaza and West Bank and southern Lebanon, it's going to be worth the lives of the Israelis that were killed. I mean, look, a lot of people will say, well, Chek, you would say this because you're Israel obsessed, and this is your natural default position. But at the same time, you have people like the former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, who was on CNN last week with Christian Amunpoor.

I'm struck by what you said. I have reason to believe that, yes, he was warned. Can you tell me any more details of those reasons? Maybe one day I'll have to say it in court if Netanyahu will be powerful enough, I mean, courageous enough to challenge the Haarets in the press. I have, again, I say, Christine, I want to be very accurate. I have no doubt that the publication in Ha'Aritz was accurate and I have a good reason to believe that it was accurate. you know, journalists and even political persons are not always free to open up their sources. So there you have a former Prime Minister of Israel on the record saying that he has very good independent sourcing that says to him this story is true.

And again, you know, Czech, I come back to the sheer bombshell nature of this, if it is as Heretz has reported and which we now see Olmert and others endorsing from their own sources, and Naftali Bennett has obviously condemned it very quickly as well. You have a situation where it would appear the serving Prime Minister of Israel was given specific warning that something like this may happen, did nothing with it, and that there may have been, and I don't know this, and he denies it, but there may have been the kind of ulterior motive that you painted,

which is that in his mind he's thinking, if there is a big attack, it will allow me to then orchestrate and execute the much bigger plan of potentially kicking Palestinians out of Gaza, out of the West Bank and so on. Yeah, well, the proof's in the pudding, as you British say, right? So we're seeing it right in front of our eyes. You don't have to trust me on it. You don't have to trust the former Israeli prime ministers, there's two of them. There's dozens of former Israeli generals that are now saying the same exact thing because they don't want Israelis killed either, and neither do I. I don't, I'm for peace and non-violence, I want to save Israel,

and I want a safe and independent Palestine. So look, you know, they say, it's a talking point to say, oh, you guys are obsessed with Israel. Well, okay, fair enough, I do talk about Israel a lot, but why? Why do I, and a lot of people talk about it so much? It's because Nicaragua didn't bring us into a disastrous war in Iran. They did.

Bolivia didn't create a genocide. Israel did. And on top of that, they are making us pay for all of these things. And it's absurd. And then they've now gotten so out of control. Look, on the stand-down order, let's be clear. There are IDF soldiers on tape. Again, we've shown it on the Young Turks.

You can show it anywhere saying, yeah, we got a stand-down order. And Charlie is right. It takes 45 minutes to cross Israel and a helicopter. Why did the IDF, this amazing military, not show up for six or seven hours? That's insane. Why were they talking about shooting their own people? Why did they let them take the hostages? I mean, look, the second part of that bombshell story, peers, is about how they could have gotten the hostages back.

Hamas said, not all of them, but the civilians that were younger than 18 and over 50 years old, Hamas said, we don't need anything. It's a bad PR for us. We just want to give it back, right? And Netanyahu's government basically said, no. That's so outrageous. And so, look, when you get into this, and I think it's a strain of fascism that escaped. from Europe and came to Israel.

And that's what Zionism is. And so, and fascism has nothing new with your religious background or your race. Japanese, Italians, Germans, Spanish, Israelis. You can argue for other countries and ethnicities. It's an ideology, and it's so radical. It doesn't really care about anything else. Look at how they're wildly attacking Spain, Britain, Ireland.

Everybody's an enemy. And now because the British said, hey, can you stop murdering people in the West Bank? Now you guys are the enemy, and you need to be attacked, and they're going to kick you out of Israel, which I thought, don't threaten them with a good time. Like, so who cares if you get kicked out? But it goes to the mentality of, no, the people criticizing Israel are just noticing what's happening. It's the people running the government of Israel that have lost their minds, that they've gone rogue. And peers, what's so unsettling to me as an American is, okay, there's a country that used to be an ally of ours who's lost their minds.

It happens from time to time. Why are we still listening to them? Why are we still funding them when they're working against our interests, their own citizens' interests, and they've lit the world on fire because of this war in Iran. Saudi Arabia's in shambles.

You've got gas shortages in South Korea and India. Mexico had this giant demonstration yesterday to free Palestine. Why is there free Palestine demonstrations in Mexico? Because Israel has lit the entire world on fire with this war just so they could have regional dominance. There is, of course, an Israeli election looming, looking at the polymarket, prediction market on this, asking who will be Prime Minister of Israel after that election?

It's $37 million in this market currently. The former IDF chief of staff, Gaddi Eisencott, is in the lead on 54% representing the Yashah party. Netanyahu, of course, from Likud, is behind on 30% Naftali-Benzhou. on 10%? What do you make of those odds? And if Eisencott was to win, as the markets are currently suggesting he's the favorite to do, what difference would that make? So it's hard to tell. First of all, they're all war criminals. But I get that Eisencott is, we hope, better for the world. And right now, Israel's eliters, Netanyahu, Ben-Gabir,

Smotrich, but not finally Bennett as well, saying, screw the world. We're against the entire world. They're all anti-Semites anyway. Let's just attack everyone. So that's a path of destruction for Israel. So they'd be nuts to vote for either one of those guys. But, you know, me saying that probably helped Netanyahu. But am I sure that Eisenkott is going to solve these things? No, not at all. So there's two different problems, peers. One is the current mania. Let's attack everyone. Let's keep southern Lebanon. Let's keep 70% of Gaza. Let's keep attacking Iran. If Eisencott can come back from the ledge on that, that's great. That's great. I'm happy to take point one. But he's never going to do point two. Point two is free the Palestinians.

And Knesset has voted basically overwhelmingly. Every single Jewish Israeli member of Knesset said, we're never going to free the Palestinians. Well, that's untenable. That is a permanent apartheid state, which is racist by definition, bigoted by definition. And what do you? And what do you? you need to carry out that kind of fascism. You need to brutalize the Palestinians in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. So we all have eyes and ears. And by the way, their number one ally is American media. American media lies on their behalf 24-7. That's why the rest of the world knows how evil and fascist this current Israeli government is. And America, you know, now 60% of us know, but the people watching cable news still are not aware of it. But the rest of us see it.

If they continue to occupy the Palestinians, if they never leave Gaza, if they never leave southern Lebanon, at the end of the day, it's not going to solve anything. Do you want a safe haven for Jews? Because that is easy. We can make that happen. 53 Arab nations have already agreed to a perfectly good peace deal. The problem is that Israelis don't want peace. If Eisenkot brings peace and gives two-state solution and it's a real independent Palestinian state, then the world will love him for it. But if he chooses the path of destruction that they're currently on, then it's not going to make any difference. We saw an extraordinary moment last week where Mike Huckabee went public and categorized what Israeli settlers were doing to Americans on the West Bank was tantamount to terrorism. Were you surprised that he used that word? And what do you make of the significance of it?

You know, I was surprised that Huckabee used that word. It's not, the word is not surprising. They're definitely terrorists in the West Bank, the Israeli settlers. There's no question about that. Like, again, American media is so disgustingly biased that they haven't barely talked about the October 7th that's happened in the West Bank. So so far, the Israeli settlers and the IDF have murdered more civilians in the West Bank than Hamas did on October 7th. They've also done on October 7th in Gaza since the Socoran. called ceasefire. The Israelis never listened to ceasefires. It's worthless to sign any deal with

them for this current government. And so they've also done on October 7th since the ceasefire. They've now done 75 October 7th in Gaza and the West Bank and Lebanon combined. Our media says, who cares? Those are just Palestinians and Lebanese and Arabs and Christians and Muslims. So their lives are utterly irrelevant. It's only the October 7th in Israel that matters. So, but we're in a situation where they've got to stop. If they've got to rejoin their sane nations on earth, but if they keep insisting on this, even the Huckabees of the world are going to have to say, yeah, well, of course it's terrorism. They're going and murdering civilians and then taking their homes, literally.

This is not like a hypothetical discussion about taking land, and God promised it to you 3,000 years ago. one of the most preposterous talking points in human history. What if the Turks came in and said, no, God promised it to us. Now, we're going to murder you and take your homes. Everybody would be like, outrageous, right in there, be right, of course. But you replace Turks or Albanians or any other nationality with Israelis, and everybody's like, of course, God says to murder the Palestinians to take their land. But it's not just land.

It's literally their physical property. They come in and they murder the people inside that house, and then they take the house and go, now this is an Israeli house, because God promised it to us 3,000 years ago. Well, that's what terrorists do. And Pierce, how many times are we talked about radical fundamentalist Muslims? They don't represent all 1.6 billion Muslims. They're a tiny group, but they believe God told them they could kill people and take their stuff.

That's exactly what the Israelis think. But to be, if we're being honest, almost all of the settlers in the West Bank believe that they should kill the Palestinians and take their land. They're all terrorists. And right now, the Israeli people are in a bad, bad place. They can turn around. Everybody can turn around. The Germans are peaceful now. Look at how big a difference it is.

I believe in humanity. So I think that the Israelis can turn around. But they've got to start. They've got to get on the road because right now they're near the end of fascism. They're nowhere near the right answer. They've got to stop murdering civilians and taking their land. I mean, I never thought I'd see a day where the majority of Americans in all the polls. now have a negative view of Israel.

I didn't think that day would come. And yet it's here and the negativity is rising. And of course, one of the consequences of this, there are many consequences, but one of which is that many people who live in America who are Jewish are feeling more and more insecure and intimidated and vulnerable and fearful because they're seeing these poll numbers

and they're seeing a conflation by many people between people who hate what the Israeli government is doing, a very right-wing Israeli government, and the likes of Benghavir and Smodrish, spewing their psychopathic nonsense. And they conflate it with the Jewish population around the world, the 15 million Jews. And so Jewish people, I know, I've spoken to them,

they're feeling very concerned about this. There's a general conflation going on that Netanyahu, Benghivir and Smoddrich and this Israeli government, represent all Jews. They don't. Yeah, there's no such thing as the Jews, right? Like any ethnicity or any religion or race, there's a great variety. We're all human beings. So in that case, I would say this breaks down super roughly into four groups.

First of all, there's Jewish Americans, I don't know about Jews in the rest of the world. I know some British Jews, but that are in the peace movement. They've been there from day one and they're angels, and they're the best of us, right? So I love those Jewish brothers and sisters. Then there's people who are Jewish and don't particularly care about Israel. They're not against it. They're just not Israeli. They're Americans. And so they don't spend much time thinking about it.

Then there's the Zionists who are good people. They believe in the project of Israel. They haven't thought through what that means for the Palestinians. And they're trying super hard not to think about what it means for the Palestinians. Because if they do, they're going to be racked with shame and guilt. But they're not trying to destroy people, et cetera, right? Then there's the radical Zionists. And the radical Zionists say, we speak for all the Jews.

And I weirdly and ironically agree with the Groypers. So the rest of Jewish Americans, by the way, 63% of Jewish Americans are against the current government of Israel. So stop hiding behind them. So the radical Zionists are using the other Jews as human shields. And so they keep saying, we represent all the Jews. The Jews all think the same thing. The Jews are in favor of this genocide.

The Jews are in favor of these wars. Number one, that is a lie. It is empirically incorrect. Jewish Americans do not agree with the current Israeli government. Number two, you're hiding behind the civilians. Number three, it's super callous and it's driving up anti-Semitism. And then of course, you know what they'll say, Pierce. Well, since you're trying to protect the other Jews, you're an anti-Semite.

Like there isn't anything they wouldn't answer with, you're an anti-Semite. And unfortunately, a lot of American media agree with the radical Zionists. They go, if you ever criticize Israel, you're an anti-Semite, you should be destroyed, and your career should be ruined, and you should never be allowed on, right? So why is all of our media, weirdly, with the fringe minority of Jews in America who are driving the wars and the genocides and pretending to speak for other Jews when they most certainly don't? And by the way, the next thing I expect is going to happen, and we'll see if I'm right or wrong, is a rebellion within the Jewish community, saying, I've had enough. I've had enough of these guys pretending that I'm for genocide. I never signed up for that. Stop speaking for me.

I know that if there was radical Muslims saying all Muslims are in favor of terrorism or all Muslims are in favor of war, I would speak out super loudly and strongly and say that's not the case. Don't smear the rest of us with your radical fascist agenda. And I suspect that that's what's going to happen within the Jewish community next. Because Jewish American leaders are not being responsive to their own community. If 63% of your citizens, Jewish Americans, are against the Netanyahu government, why is almost every single Jewish American leader in favor of the Netanyahu government? By definition, you're betraying about two-thirds of your constituency.

We have, of course, the ongoing Iran war, which many people believe President Trump took America into because he bought in to a sales pitch from Benjamin Netanyahu and the head of Mossad that if they took out the I. Toler and his top people, then there would be a collapse of the regime. The people would rise up, and this could all happen very quickly. That clearly has not happened. I think President Trump is desperate to get out of this war. We're seeing now an escalation in the region with the Houthis attacking Saudi interests,

and now the Saudis having real problems, getting their oil out, may even be, according to what I read this morning, that capability may just end completely. next week. And that's 4% of the world's oil market just stopped. So there are serious repercussions going on here. And there's no sign of this ending. Certainly no sign of Iran and its regime collapsing. And no sign of the enriched uranium they have being handed over. No sign of any undertaking to stop any desire to have a nuclear weapon. They continue to attack Gulf states when they feel like it, which is called enormous issues there. The whole thing is a gigantic

mess, and yet Benjamin Netanyahu, this is a 40-year project for him that's come to fruition, I imagine he would, he'll take as long as he wants to try and get what he wants, which is to bring down this regime. And his interests, therefore, do not align with American interests or the wider global interests in this. Yeah, so let's break down the different perspective. So from an American perspective, we were told that this war was about preventing Iran from having a nuclear weapon. Now, that's inconvenient because it's an obvious lie. Why is it an obvious lie? Our intelligence community already told us before the war that they do not have a nuclear weapons program at all. Tulsi-Gabert said that in Congress. It's on tape. There's no question about it.

Then number two, we attacked him anyway in the first war against Iran, the 12-day war. And then Trump said definitively, we all heard it with our own eyes. I mean, we heard it with our own eyes. We heard of our own eyes. And he said, yeah, we've completely destroyed their nuclear weapons program. Their facilities are completely gone. So why are we in this war? We have no interest at all. And then there was this absurd talk about we have to destroy all of Iran's ballistic missiles and drones.

Then we're never going to leave. That's an impossible task. And why do we have to destroy every drone in Iran? That doesn't make any sense at all. They said, oh, we have to make sure that Iran doesn't have certain proxy. So we have to be in charge of Iran's foreign policy. No, this has nothing to do with America. Literally, absolutely nothing to do with America, and it is empirical.

It has been proven over and over again by our own government. When you look at the Israeli perspective, on the other hand, this war is awesome if you're for the greater Israel project, not if you're a normal Israeli citizen. So the greater Israel project means taking more and more land. And what have they done? They've solidified that they have 70% of Gaza. They're ripping the West Bank to shreds right now. and they took southern Lebanon.

By the way, they're also occupying southern Syria. But southern Lebanon now is a part of the reason that Israel wanted this war. While we're distracted in Iran, they've taken more land. So that's one win for them. Number two, they want to destroy all of their regional competitors. So once they wipe out Iran,

either through regime change or through civil war, and they have stated this on the record, then they feel like Netanyahu gave a speech about after the war started saying, We are going to be the only regional superpower, and we might even become a global superpower, he said. And then the last piece for the Israelis that's so great about this war for the radical Zionists is it also destroys the Gulf countries. So the UAE and Saudi Arabia may have made a terrible mistake by making an alliance with Israel. De facto, some of it is on the record, some of it is de facto.

They thought, well, if we're good with the Israelis and the Americans, we'll get protected. That's funny. No. Once the war started, Israel said to America, you work for us. You will protect us and only us. So our bases in the region were exposed, and that's why 18 Americans have died, and that's why hundreds of Americans have been injured. So Jordan got hit. All the Gulf countries got hit.

And Saudi Arabia waking up to that as we speak, going, oh, so it turns out America's not going to protect me. They're only going to protect Israel. And Israel is going, hey, we have the Goliath, I'm sorry, the Leviathan. gas field. We're going to take the gas field off the Lebanese waters. We're going to build a pipeline to Europe. So you're going to need us. And the fact that the rest of the oil and gas-producing countries are destroyed in this war, Netanyahu thinks is a great boon to Israel. So Israel loves this war. We hate this war. The Gulf countries hate this war. The world hates this war.

So we're in this gigantic mess of a war to make the radical Zionist government of Israel happy. That's why there's protests all across the world. This is insane that the whole world is being brought to their knees by this two-bit country that is clearly fascist, clearly rogue and out of control. What do you say to people who are watching this? And there'll be a lot of many people would be agreeing with you. There'll be many people going, oh, Cheunger again, everything's Israel's fault. He blames Israel for everything.

And yet the reality of the region and the situation, is that Israel for decades now has been repeatedly attacked by Hezbollah, the Houthis, Amas, the Iranian terror tentacles spread out all over the region in a concerted effort to take out Israel, to take down Israel, and brazenly admit they want to get rid of Israel. And they say, look, we're facing an existential threat. So, yeah, we are a small geographic country,

but we're a powerful democracy in a region. with no other democracies. And we're facing a constant threat from people attacking us, and we have to defend ourselves. And October the 7th was a manifestation of all of this on a grotesque, gargantuan scale

that required a gargantuan response. Yeah, so this is the classic Israeli defense, which is, goes back to the old Golda Meyer line, where they said, she said, we'll never forgive the Palestinians for making us kill their kids. No, nobody's making you kill anyone. And so this idea that, oh, we're doing self-defense.

Well, why are you doing self-defense? Why is it? Because they have a theory. Their theory is everyone in the world is anti-Semites, but particularly the Arabs, the Muslims, the Palestinians. They're vicious anti-Semites. And if they ever got freedom, they would murder us all. They would murder us just because they irrationally hate Jewish people, right?

Now, I have a different theory, and the rest of the world agrees with me. And the polling backs that up. So the other theories, maybe they're attacking you because you're occupying them. Is that complicated? Do I have to speak slower? You understand that you're keeping five and a half million Palestinians as you're prisoners. Now, Gaza's only the size of Las Vegas. Now they're stuffed over 2 million people into 30% of Las Vegas.

So that's an open-air concentration camp. And you're puzzled as to why people are. bothered by you might want to fight back against that. And now you're ripping the West Bank to shreds. You've done 75 October 7th. And no, Lebanon didn't start that war. Israel started the war against Lebanon. Iran didn't start the war. Israel started the war against Iran. So they live in an imaginary world where they're angels and they have a right. God told them they have a right to kill those people and take their land. And they're so puzzled that the people would then fight back. And then they go, well, that's terrorism. You can't, you know, do what Hamas

and Hezbollah do. Okay, as you know, peers, I've said this a million times on your show. No problem. That's terrorism. Then what are the Israelis doing? They are doing supernova terrorism. They are the largest terrorist group in the world. And I'm just taking their definition. Do you kill civilians on purpose? Hamas's civilian kill ratio is 67 percent, indicating, well, if two-thirds of the people you kill their civilians, you're doing it on purpose. And they say that's intent. Fair. Israel's civilian kill ratio is 83%.

It is the largest of any terrorist organization in the world. Clear intent and 75 times the number of civilians killed. So if you do a massive terrorist strike against the Palestinians over and over and over again, what do you think they're going to do? And the Israelis say, no, we have an infinite right to self-defense, which includes killing your kids and taking your homes, all of your property, your olive farms, and your land. You have no right to self-defense.

You're dirty, lower, inferior Muslims, and you should know that we're going to rule you forever. And that is not an exaggeration. They voted to never free the Palestinians. Let that sink in. The Israelis say that they should be their – Palestinians should be their permanent slaves, and they should be occupied forever.

They should be driven from the land. and then they go, well, I can't figure out why people don't like us. Are you kidding me? And I'm telling you, if you support Israel out there, wiki, wakey, like break this spell that the radical Zionists have put on you. The number one target of the radical Zionist is not the rest of us. I mean, look, it's Jews. I would say. They're saying to other Jews, hey, you know what?

It doesn't matter if you get hurt. It doesn't matter if you're blamed. You have to be pro-genocide. And I'm going to tell everyone you love genocide. Well, don't stop saying that. They didn't agree to that. You're lying. And for the rest of Jews across the world, please rise up because they're making you look terrible.

And I know I've got Jewish family, and I lived in a Jewish town growing up. It's about 40, 50% Jewish. So I know that Judaism has terrific parts. Question the rabbi, question authority. Jews were a huge part of the civil rights movement in this country. They did so much good. I know the goodness in their heart. And I've already seen it in so many.

are on our side already. And thank you for raising your children right, because they grow up with good morals. That's why they're supporting the Palestinians. A lot of the Jewish kids in America are and across the world. But we need more Jewish Americans to stand up to the radical Zionists because they're making you look horrific. And I know that's not who you are, but you've got to stand up. And Pierce, you remember, after 9-11, every Muslim was made to apologize, even though they had nothing to do with it. So I'm now asking the Jewish community, not out of hatred, but out of love and out of respect. I'm telling you, forget. God's sake, you've got to rise up against these guys who are smearing you.

I know that's not how you are. I know that's not what's in your heart. But you've got to show that to the rest of the world because the radical Zionists are insisting that you all think the same thing that they think, which I know isn't true. Chang Nuga, always good to catch up with you, particularly in person here in New York.

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based on S&P Global Mobility Canadian New Vehicle Total Registrations for calendar year 2025 for the Cadillac definition of luxury. Last week, the UK sparked international controversy by sanctioning Israel over what it called ethnic cleansing and terrorism by settlers in the Occupy West Bank. One of the most ferocious critics of that decision was Mike Huckabee, the U.S. Ambassador to Israel, who twice accused the Jewish Foreign Secretary Ed Miliband of Jew hate.

The ambassador, however, had used the word terrorist himself to describe some of the settlers only a few days earlier. And he joins me now. Mike Huckabee, welcome back to Unsensit. Always a pleasure, Pierce. Thanks for having me back. So look, I want to play, a clip. This is where you first used the word terrorist terrorism to describe the actions of some of the

settlers on the West Bank. Let's remind ourselves of what you said. We heard about the challenges that they face, living in their own homes, on their own property, some of the intimidation that is being carried out by people that I have characterized as being terrorist. I know that's an uncomfortable word for some people. There are limitations in what a U.S. Embassy can do in another country. We cannot investigate. We don't have that power or authority. We cannot adjudicate. We don't have that power or authority. But we can influence. And we can call attention. No, I thought this was a very significant moment in this whole debate, because ever since October the 7th, I've categorized what Hamas did that day as absolute terrorism,

one of the worst terror attacks of modern times. And the refrain that's come back repeatedly from people on the pro-Palestinian side has been, well, what about the actions of the Israelis? They've been terrorists too. And I have rejected that characterization for a long time. But here, somebody like you, Ambassador Harkabee, who is a known friend of Israel,

huge supporter of Israel, always has been, for you to use that phrase and to double down on that phrase about the behavior of some of these settlers on the West Bank, I thought was highly significant. How big a moment was it for you to use that word and what kind of blowback if you had from people on the Israeli side? Well, Pierce, it really wasn't a big moment of conscience.

It was a simple matter of observation. I want to be very clear. I don't think the people who are doing most of this or even settlers. Most of these people don't even live in Judean, Samaria. Many of them live outside. And they certainly don't represent the half million Israelis who do live in Judean Samaria. It's one of the reasons that is so very, very frustrating to see the term extremist settler violence. I call them not the settlers, but the unsettlers.

Now, are there some who live in Judean, Samaria, who do these acts? Yes. But the total number that may be involved in these actions probably are in the low hundreds out of half a million who actually live. there. Very responsible people who have no intention of doing things like stealing someone's livestock or burning a car or squatting in someone's home who may be Palestinian. The reason I use the term terrorist is because by definition, terror is when you try to change the behavior of someone by inflicting fear on how they live and what they do. Well, when you go to someone's home and you make it queer that they don't feel comfortable living there, when you burn their car, are you

you do something that causes the children who live there to be afraid. Pierce, I don't know what else to call it. So I want to be fair, I want to be objective, and I want to be equal in my description. If a Palestinian stabs an Israeli, that's terrorism. But if there is an Israeli who torches a mosque, I call that terrorism. I don't know what else to call it.

Yeah, I mean, I completely agree with you, and I applaud you for saying it. And I've seen a big reaction online to this. A lot of people on the Israeli side angry that you use that word, they don't ever want to describe any of their actions as terrorism. But I think there's an intellectual honesty to doing that in the context in which you've just expressed yourself on this. But you also indicated a certain powerlessness as a US ambassador to Israel.

You can say it's terrorism, but you don't really have any power to enforce, any lawful response to this. So what is the next move here? Are you getting any indication from the Netanyahu government that they're actually going to take action against the people you've branded terrorists? Absolutely. They already have.

They have, first of all, made it very clear that they plan to arrest and adjudicate people who are caught doing these things. They've donated about 130 million shekels to change the way that they de-year-es. with the issues of violence that go on in Judean Samaria. Again, I think a lot of this is being done by what we would call settlers. Again, I call them unsettlers.

These are people who are thugs, who are doing evil things, criminal things. And I don't want them to besmirch the reputation of the overwhelmingly 99 plus 9% of the people who live in Judean and Samaria, who are absolutely law-abiding people, and who live by the Torah. You know, if you live with the Torah, Pierce, you don't steal, you don't kill, and you don't covet. So you can't say, I'm keeping God's law, but I'm doing things that are totally against it. So I just say, look, if you're going to do these things, don't pretend that you're doing it to help the cause of Israel because it isn't. There have been so many Palestinian attacks on Israelis. Many of them don't get reported very much, but that's where a lot of it is. I call that out.

But I'm going to do the same if an Israeli attacks a Palestinian, especially in their own homes, in their own neighborhoods. And I feel like that to do anything less than that would be not only to be dishonest, but it would also be unfair to the whole situation. We need to expect law in order for everybody. You mentioned what can we do? There has been universal condemnation for some of these criminal acts. It's come from the prime minister. It's come from the president. It's come from the foreign minister.

It's come from people who are the leaders in the IDF and in the Israeli national police. So I don't know too many people who are officials who have applauded this and said, oh, this is fine. We're not going to really be concerned about it. What I have said is that this is not something that Israel needs right now

because it besmirches the reputation of the whole country. And that's really unfair. Now, what was happening simultaneously to this? was that my government in Britain announced that they were going to apply sanctions targeting trade with Israeli settlements in the West Bank. They were joined by a number of other countries. You reacted very angrily to this.

You described it as being Jew hatred, despite the fact that the British Foreign Secretary, Ed Miliband, who made the announcement, is himself Jewish. You know, with hindsight, calling a Jewish Foreign Secretary of Britain a Jew hater because he's applying sanctions to a group of people who, by your own admission, include people committing acts of terrorism,

seems a little perverse. Well, I don't think so at all, and I'll tell you why. It's not what a person says he or she is. It's what a person does. Here's the problem with the sanctions that are being applied. You know who it's going to really hurt? It's going to hurt Palestinian workers more. more than it's going to hurt Israelis.

I don't think it was thought out. So you have all these countries who are going to impose sanctions on people who are living in Judea, Samaria, again, most of whom are absolutely law-abiding people. They've done nothing wrong. They live their lives very responsibly and admirably. But if you go and sanction anyone who does business there,

I'll tell you who gets the jobs lost first. It'll be Palestinians. Back in 2015, there was a company you may be familiar with it called Soda Stream. It's where you can make your own soft drinks at home. They had a plan. I toured it back in 2015. And they employed 1,100 people, 700 of whom were Palestinian, 400 who were Israeli. They worked side by side.

They got the same pay. For the Palestinians, it was four times the paycheck that they had ever received in their lives, plus full health care benefits, full education benefits for their children, a month of paid vacation and on and on. But the BDS movement, basically what's going on now, came in and begin to yell and scream and say, this is terrible, there shouldn't be this business operating in Judea and Samaria. Well, finally, Sotom stream couldn't continue to operate there. So they shut the plant down, moved it down into Israel, into the Ngev, and 700 Palestinians lost their job. with all the benefits and all the incredible salaries they were getting.

So who really got punished in that? It wasn't the Israelis. It was the Palestinians. This is the law of unintended consequences. And even many of the governments who are saying they're going to impose these sanctions, they can't tell you exactly what is going to happen, how they're going to be administered. But already we've seen Israel saying, okay, if you're going to do this,

then you have to remove your diplomats and the consulate is going to be closed, that's going to make it far more difficult for Palestinian people living in areas A or B, under the Palestinian Authority, to get visas, to get passports. So you wonder, who is going to win and who's going to lose by these actions. But if your point of principle is that by taking sanctions against Israeli settlements, the British government were collectively punishing a lot of innocent Palestinians. What is the difference between that and what the Israeli government has done in Gaza?

Well, they flattened 70% of Gaza, displaced well over a million Palestinians, probably a lot more, where of the 80,000 people who've died in Gaza since October the 7th, at least 50,000 or so are believed to be civilians and not Hamas terrorists, and they include 20,000 children.

I mean, you know, you're talking about unintended consequence is the punishment to Palestinians because of a trade sanction. But what about the unintended consequences to 50,000 innocent Palestinians, including 20,000 children by the way that the Israeli government has prosecuted the war in Gaza?

Isn't it the same principle? Not at all. And I'll tell you, first of all, the numbers are coming from Hamas. Many of those numbers are wildly out of control. Not only are they misreporting the total numbers, but what they often consider to be civilians are actually Hamas fighters.

Many of the people who were posing as press people were known members of Hamas. The numbers themselves were reported by the Gaza Health Ministry, which is Hamas. So if you really believe that Hamas is giving you honest numbers, you might come to that conclusion. But here's the other thing to keep in mind. Well, it's...

Hang on, hang on, sorry. Ambassador, Ambassador, hang on. Ambassador, one second. On that, Israel has accepted the health ministry's numbers. And in fact, historically, that same health ministry's numbers have been accepted as broadly accurate by Israel. So it's not just a question of Hamas and their health ministry putting out any numbers they feel like it.

These have been broadly accepted by Israel. And my question to people that question those numbers was, well, if you don't think they're accurate, what are the accurate numbers? In other words, how many of the people who've been killed in Gaza are Hamas, how many are civilian, and how many have been children? And if you can't give me those numbers, and nobody, by the way, whose question the Hamas or the Gaza Health Ministry numbers can, then how do we know?

I think what we are happening to look at is, I'm not saying the total numbers aren't there, but how many of those people were combatants, How many of them were Hamas sympathizers and people who were working with Hamas? Here's what I also can tell you. These charges about genocide totally off base. Here's why. The population of Gaza has actually grown by 4% every year since October the 7th.

In addition to that, Israel has poured 6 to 700 trucks per day of humanitarian assistance into Gaza. If you're trying to kill everybody, you don't put food and medical supplies. lies in, and they also have given a million vaccinations against polio. So if the goal is genocide, and yet you're actually trying to help the quality of life for the civilians, then that's, by anybody's definition, not genocide. Also, if you don't mind me saying, if you don't mind me saying, I think this would not have, this would never have happened. I understand.

Yeah. I understand. But I would say that you're, if you don't mind me, suggesting this. I think you are deflecting from what my question was. I'm not saying it's a genocide. I've never said it's a genocide. I think there's a form of ethnic cleansing going on there, and that is based around the, on the record comments of people like the defense minister, Israel Katz, who announced a creation of a dedicated directorate within the Ministry of Defense tasked with managing the voluntary departure of Gaza residents. He said there's no solution for Gaza in the end without this.

migration. The security minister, Ben-Givir, unveiled a structured seven-year initiative called Disengagement 7-10. The plan explicitly aims to relocate nearly the entire population of Gaza, and then the 2 million Palestinians abroad targeting

$250,000 in the first year. The finance minister Smodrich has similarly championed the reoccupation of Gaza and suggested policies aimed at thinning the population by half within two years. So, you know, people can quibble about whether this isn't actual genocide, and I have not said that it is. But I do believe there is a form of ethnic cleansing

there, and that the goal of this Israeli government, driven by very far-right ministers, including Benghavir and Smoddrich, is to get rid of the Palestinians from Gaza and from the West Bank. That is their big overarching worldview of the region. And so to the charge of ethnic cleansing, how can you dispute that when we know what they're saying from their own mouths? Well, I would say it's not accurate because ethnic cleansing would mean that you are specifically trying to dislocate and displace the people. I've heard from the prime minister's own lips. I've also heard from President Trump. Both of them have said it is not the goal to involuntarily displace anyone. What they have said, both President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu, is that if people want to leave Gaza because they don't see a good future, at least in the immediate

foreseeable moment, if they don't see a future and they would like to leave, they shouldn't be imprisoned in Gaza and forced to stay and be under the fear of Hamas. They ought to be able to leave. But it ought to be their decision, not the decision of the Israeli government, not the decision of the United States, not the decision of the Board of Peace. I know of no one in a position of authority who is suggesting privately or publicly that there should be forced, of the population of Gaza. So if you start to see evidence that that is indeed what's happening, would America intervene and stop it?

I think America would be strongly in objection to that, but we don't have to be because there's no plan by Israel to force people out of Gaza. You know who did get forced out of Gaza? The Israelis did. The Jewish people did. Back in 2005, when Israel gave Gaza completely to the Palestinians, and they forcibly moved,

and they forcibly moved them by the IDF. All of the Jews who were living in Gaza, there were over 10,000 of them. They were taken at gunpoint by their own army out of Gaza in order to fulfill this deal to say, okay, you can have all of Gaza. They got it all. And then they turned around, and a year and a half later,

elected Hamas to run the place, and the rest is history, and it's not a very good history. There was a bombshell report in Heretz in the last few days that said that Benjamin Netanyahu was explicitly warned by the Prime Minister of the UAE that there was going to be a massive attack by Hamas against Israel.

And that was 10 days before October the 7th. And the report said that Netanyahu did nothing about that warning. He's denied it and said he's going to sue herets. We'll see if that happens. He often uses the threat of suing as a tactic to deflect attention. So we'll see. but this has now been confirmed by people, former Prime Ministers of Israel, like Ehud Omet and others, who say from their own sources,

they've heard that this conversation did happen. And we've heard from sources close to the UAE, Prime Minister's Office, that the conversation happened. And in the context of that, if this is true, it would be an unbelievable abrogation of a prime ministerial duty, wouldn't it, to have received a warning of a catastrophic attack of that nature and to do nothing about it. Well, it's interesting that that report from the newspaper in Israel,

which is, by the way, very left of center, they cannot stand the current government. They reported this, but with anonymous sources, which I always find to be very problematic when someone says some high-level government official. Here's what I know. The UAE has officially said this did not happen. They have said it on the record.

Ron Dermer, who is as close to the prime minister during this period of time as anyone, closer than anyone, has said it absolutely did not happen. You have a number of named people who were in the know who said, this did not take place. And so when both the Israelis and the UAE say it's not true, it's fiction, I'm going to go with the people who put their name on the report rather than some anonymous figure right before an election to somehow try to shift the election. I just find that so disgusting. Look, I don't care for people who go off the record and on deep background because to me, they're cowards.

I think people ought to be on the record. I never do off the record interviews. I don't do deep background. For the simple reason, if I say it, I own it. And if it's wrong, then I own it. It's my fault. I don't want to be hiding some, you know, keyboard coward sitting there typing out something and sending an off. anonymously and having somebody believe it, but they have no idea who the source is. I just find that

revolting. So you would have not like Watergate then, the scandal, because it came from an anonymous source called Deep Throat. You would have not wanted that scandal to break? I would rather for somebody to have the guts to say, I know something the world needs to know. And here's what I know. I'm the one saying it. And you can check me out as to the facts of it. Look, I know people sometimes are whistleblowers. I get that. This isn't whistleblowers. These are hornblowers. These are people who just want to get something stirred up,

but they don't want to be accountable for what they say. Pierce, one thing, look, I respect people one thing. Okay, but I must say, out of interest. But I say, out of interest. I respect you say what you say, and you put your name on it. I appreciate that. Okay. I think some of the biggest stories in journalism history

have come from anonymous sources, albeit a reporter or more may know who it is, but they remain anonymous for very good reasons. But notwithstanding that, I've seen no official denial of that call happening from UAE. Where have you seen that? I've seen it by the UAE's reports and by their releases.

They said it simply didn't happen. There's been no official statement from the UAE, Prime Minister's office. Well, the Israelis have, and they deny a lot of things, which later turn out to be true. But the UAE, just for the record, has not officially denied that story.

There's been no statement of denial from the Prime Minister's office. There's been no official denial whatsoever. They simply said, we don't comment on stories like this. That's not a denial. No, the Prime Minister's Office has absolutely said it did not happen that that call never took place. Not on the record.

I can't give you the name of the person. Well, not on... I believe they have. Not on the record. You can check me on that. And if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But nobody from the UAE, by name, has certainly affirmed it.

And what I have heard is from the UAE is that it simply did not take place as it was reported. Okay. Well, we will see what the UAE do end up saying on the record. They said nothing yet. I think maybe they ought to. The fact that they haven't

may be quite telling in itself. When you look at the overall situation where we are in the Middle East right now, the Iran war seemed to me from its conception to be extremely ill-conceived. I feel that even more strongly now, it was never going to be over in two to three weeks.

The game plan laid out by Benjamin Netanyahu to President Trump was never going to happen. This idea you just take out the Ayatollah and a few top people, and then the whole regime collapses and the people rise up and take over. That was all just for the birds. I don't think President Trump takes decisions like that

because someone bullies him into doing it, but I do think he believed the sequence of events, which Netanyahu laid out for him with the head of Mossad, and they simply have not materialised. And America now finds itself in a really difficult position. And Donald Trump finds himself in a very difficult position politically, as do the Republicans, because the midterm elections are coming up fast. Gas prices are obviously extremely high.

And he's got engaged in one of these, apparently at the moment, never-ending wars in the Middle East, of the very kind he specifically campaigned, he wasn't going to do. How damaging potentially is all this for Donald Trump, for the Republican Party, and for what's going to happen in the midterms, do you think?

I think it would be a lot more damaging if President Trump had not taken the action that he did. Finally, a president who, after 47-half years of Iran threatening death to America and getting closer and closer with the ability to talk, deliver it, President Trump stood up and said, no, you're not going to have a nuclear weapon. He's continued to say that. They're not going to enrich uranium. They're not going to be able to

close the Strait of Hormuz. I think President Trump ought to be given an extraordinary sense of ovation, if not the Nobel Peace Prize, for actually saying we're not going to follow it. And as far as being talked into it, that's nonsense. And the reason I say it, I was in the room when the discussion happened. I heard the conversation. I heard the presentation. President Trump, Trump is not a person easily led into anything. He makes up his own mind. He made up his mind based on the genuine threat of the Iranians getting a nuclear weapon. He did not act because Israel talked him into it.

He acted because he knew that America was at risk. If we continued to do what America has done for 47 and a half years, and that's basically nothing other than a few economic sanctions here and there. The president recognized you've got to weaken this regime. He did that with the bombing. Now he's doing it by bankrupting them and making it very difficult for them. Other European nations, to their credit,

are joining in on the economic pressure that Iran is facing. And the reality is Iran is now a very weak country, weakened dramatically by both the military and economic action, and that is a much better place for the world to be in. If we can deal with the mothership, then you start dealing with. with Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis, which are all the proxy organizations,

they killed Americans, they've made it difficult to have peace in the Middle East. If the president continues to do what he's doing and ultimately Iran can't fund Hamas and Hezbollah and the Houdis, the world is going to be a better place in which to live. But you would accept, would you not, that as we sit here doing this interview, some six months, seven months after the start of this war,

that as things stand, the Iranian regime remains in firm control of its country. There's been no uprising by the people. The Ayatollah's son has taken over and is even more hardline than his father, which is unsurprising given he lost half his family on day one of the war. The IRGC clearly still have a firm grip on the country, and the Strait of Hulmoos remains in Iranian control. And they keep firing off rockets when they feel like it against neighbouring Gulf State. and they're rebuilding their ballistic missile capacity.

And when it comes to groups like the Houthis, what they're now doing against the Saudis is obviously incredibly troubling. And if they take control as it seems to be of this other strait that the Saudis use for a lot of their oil to come through, then we're going to be facing a massive crisis for Saudi Arabia and its economic business model.

And that will permeate through the global energy market and indeed the economy generally around the world. So much as I would like to buy into your sort of overview that you've stopped them enriching uranium, well, they've still got all their enriched uranium. You say that we couldn't let them control the Australia for most, but they do. The regime remains intact. The Ayatollah's replaced by his son. And you've got the Houthis now, you know, gaining real ground against the Saudis with this second straight. I'm struggling to see the rosy picture that you're painting.

Well, first of all, they don't have full control of the strait. of Hormuz. They make it difficult to get things through, but it makes it difficult for them to get their oil out of there. They're hurting financially because of that. So I disagree with this idea that they control it. They don't. Nothing goes through there that the U.S. doesn't allow. And I think it's very important to recognize that they're weakened condition militarily and their incredibly devastated position economically is not going to give them the ability to do the kind of things that they have been doing that really do threaten not just Israel, but the entire world. Hezbollah is in 12 Western Hemisphere countries, largely financed by Iran.

The more that pressure can be put on Iran, the weaker they are, than the weaker Hezbollah, the Houthis, and Hamas are going to be, and the stronger the rest of the world is going to be. So I disagree, peers, respectfully, that somehow the Iranians are in a good position. are not in a good position. And thanks to President Trump and his strong will, his strong pushback and his willingness to do something that other presidents haven't had the courage to do, I'm seeing it from the front row here. And I would tell you that Iran is in a much worse position, a weak position, and it is much to the benefit of the world. In one year, Iran moved their capacity to deliver a ballistic missile from two.

2,000 kilometers to over 4,100 kilometers, which means they could launch from Tehran, and they could hit basically every major capital in Europe, including London, Paris, Barcelona. They could get to Brussels throughout Berlin. Now, that's a significant threat that now faces not just the Middle East, but faces Europe as well. Not allowing them to continue their development of a nuclear weapon is one way that President Trump has helped to prevent what could be a very, very dangerous position for people all over the planet. Ambassador Harkabee, I always appreciate you coming on Unsensored.

Thank you very much indeed for your time. It's always a pleasure, Pierce. Thank you very much for having me. Pierce Morgan Unsensored is proudly independent. The only boss around here is me. If you enjoy our show, we ask only one simple thing. Hit subscribe on YouTube and follow Pierce Morgan Unsensored on Spotify and Apple. or podcasts. And in return, we will continue our mission to inform, irritate and entertain.

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