Piers Morgan Uncensored - Fifty Days of Trump, "Antichrist" Newsom & Trudeau OUT | With Dave Rubin

Episode Date: March 10, 2025

It’s been 50 days since Donald Trump resumed the mantle of US President, and many of his policies on immigration, government spending and women’s sports remain widely popular. Granted, supporters ...have raised concerns about his erratic tariff strategy, but the Democrats by contrast are dead on arrival. In fact, some Democrat darlings such as Gavin Newsom, are being accused of flip-flopping on their positions or downright hypocrisy. To dissect the latest news and updates in American politics, Piers Morgan speaks to host of 'The Rubin Report' Dave Rubin, former Bernie sanders 2020 National Press Secretary and host of 'Bad Faith Podcast' Briahna Joy Gray, conservative commentator Emily Austin and host of the 'Social Contract with Joe Walsh' Joe Walsh. Uncensored is proudly independent and supported by: American Hartford Gold: Protect your wealth with precious metals! Call American Hartford Gold today & get up to $15,000 in free silver on your 1st order! Call 866-692-2474 or Text PIERS to 65532, or Click the link below: https://offers.americanhartfordgold.com/piers-morgan/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No one's talking about bringing down Medicaid and taking out these programs. They're talking about getting the waste and fraud out, which it is obvious. There are 150-year-olds that are getting benefits, 300-year-olds getting benefits. Let's get the waste and front-up. But let's try it a different way. I want you to keep more of your money. Do you want me to keep more of my money? No, because you're a millionaire, Dave Rubin.
Starting point is 00:00:22 How much appears his money do you want? It's not just Gavin Newsome. It's a lot of the left-wingers who I would call woke, because I have no problem with you being a Democrat if you're true to your values. But this woke disease, now that Trump ended it, they want to get on the winning path. I mean, I think the guy's basically the Antichrist. He's the devil incarnate.
Starting point is 00:00:42 Give me another example in the history of war where the attacked country needs to pay for electricity for the country that declared war on them. Release the hostages, Peter. That's the answer. Release the hostages, and then I'll come on this show and tell you Israel should leave them alone.
Starting point is 00:01:03 50 days is not a very long time in the grand scheme of life. It's roughly how long it takes to grow a lettuce. With that in mind, it's quite staggering to consider the President Trump is today marking only his 50th day back in the Oval Office.
Starting point is 00:01:16 In seven frenzied weeks, Elon Musk and Doge have taken a sledge ham at a government waste. We said RIP to USAID and DEI. Tough talks began on an the Ukraine war, tough tariffs began, a trade war with China, Mexico and Canada. The Gulf of Mexico became the Gulf of America. The Prime Minister of Canada became a state governor and then became unemployed. Russia came in from the cold. Zelensky was given the cold shoulder. The leaders of
Starting point is 00:01:46 Britain, France, Jordan and India all came bearing gifts. The leaders of the resistance all came bearing silly auction paddles and pink t-shirts. And as the Democrats enter a great depression, the president's refusing to be drawn on whether America faces a recession. Are you expecting a recession this year? I hate to predict things like that. There is a period of transition because what we're doing is very big.
Starting point is 00:02:14 We're bringing wealth back to America. That's a big thing. And there are always periods of... It takes a little time. Well, President's point is that you can't make an omit without breaking. eggs. Democrats, meanwhile, are furious about the price of eggs and the fact they have no obvious leader to go out and say it. One self-appointed candidate is California's Governor Gavin Newsom.
Starting point is 00:02:37 By the way, not one person ever in my office has ever used the word Latinx. So could we finally put that to bed? We agree. No more Latinx, everybody. Well, I just didn't even know where it came from. I'm like, what are people talking about? Was it the pronouns? By the way, once, once. You'd think California invented the frame of the problem. Now, I mean, literally, I had one meeting where people started going around, table of pronouns one. There's been a hell of a lot of days between 2020 and today and one meeting.
Starting point is 00:03:02 So it's not like this is, I'm like, what the hell is, why is this the biggest issue? Wow, I wonder why. Look, I've got a house in California. Trust me, everyone's been personally pronounning for years, fueled by their governor who was all for it until now he suddenly isn't. Suddenly everybody, it seems, wants to say,
Starting point is 00:03:23 it was all nothing to do with me, this woke crap. Perhaps the biggest thing that's changed, in the past 50 years, though, is actually nothing, 50 days. It's nothing to do with executive orders or diplomatic chess games. It's the total collapse of the insanity that got Trump re-elected in the first place. Well, to debate all this, I'm joined by the host of the Rubin Report, Dave Rubin, the former Bernie 2020 National Press Secretary and host of Bad Faith podcast, Brandon Joy Gray, commentator Emily Austin, and the host of the social contract with Joe Walsh,
Starting point is 00:03:50 former candidate for president, Joe Walsh. Welcome to all of you, an appropriately stellar panel for this momentous day history. Dave Rubin, it's only been 50 days. Can we all agree it feels like 50 years? Yeah, well, 50 years of success. I mean, you just laid out 10 bullet points that are pretty freaking fantastic. I don't need to repeat all of them, but I don't even know that you mentioned the border or the deportations. There is so much goodness happening in America. And by the way, that clip that you just showed of Trump, where he's even admitting there's going to be a little pain point here. You may remember during the election,
Starting point is 00:04:26 that Elon admitted that as well, that as we go in and hack away at the deep state, at these ridiculous budgets and criminal negligence that I would say that has abused we the people, the taxpayer who are funding all this, as we do this, there's going to be some pain points. So I'm not sitting here telling you that everything is absolutely great. Egg prices are a little high. It's true, although you might want to look into the Biden administration that killed about 100 million chickens right before they left office.
Starting point is 00:04:54 But the point is that we are leaning into being a great country again. We are leaning into being the world's leader again. We are allowing the American people to do more with their money and not have this endless deep state administrative state, blob, whatever you want to call it, swamp, just run their lives. And I think most people know it, and that's why the left has just been left with nothing. So Gavin is pretending he had nothing to do with pronouns. Gavin himself has tweeted out Latin X.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Your people can check it right now. Fact, 100%. Yeah, I mean, Dave, before we get to the others, the thing that would slightly concern me as if I was a pro-Trumper, American, would be there's a new poll out today. It shows Trump's approval rating is quite significantly down now on inauguration day,
Starting point is 00:05:42 notably amongst young men who turned out in massive numbers to vote for him, notably because of concerns about the economy, plus the stock market is, I wouldn't say, tanking, but it's certainly taken a big hammering in the last week or so. It's got to be careful, Trump. It's all very well saying, look, there's going to be some pain. But if people are already starting to fret about the economy
Starting point is 00:06:05 and that gathers momentum, that could become quite problematic for the guy who said, the good times are coming. Well, it could. Of course it could. If the economy does not do well, if it trips up, if the tariff thing backfires, of course, right? I would answer that as honestly as I would answer any. any other question, but I would say that largely what he has done is put us in this transitional
Starting point is 00:06:29 period. So I personally do not know anyone that supported Donald Trump that has peeled away their support at this point. I actually do know a few people, and there are plenty of people. You can see them online. People like Stephen A. Smith, who did not vote for Donald Trump, who basically said, I don't know that he says he's a supporter, but basically kind of not been hysterical, even someone like Bill Maher. So I don't know anyone that's going in the the other way. That poll may be right, but I would also say that might have a little something to do with the fact that the left has so imploded that some of the energy that drove Trump may be dissipating, because as the left's lunacy disappears, the need for the destructor Donald Trump is
Starting point is 00:07:10 different. This is where he needs to be statesman, Donald Trump. I think he's doing it. All right. Joe Walsh, are you as jubilant about the first 50 days of Trump part two? No, I agree with Dave's assessment of the Democrats. There is helpless, hopeless, and feckless as ever. Look, Trump is Trump. He's doing what he said he was going to do. We're seven weeks in, and there's a battle in the free world between NATO, our alliance, our allies, Europe on one side, and Putin on the other side. And the president of the United States has clearly put America on the side of Putin.
Starting point is 00:07:52 I find that troubling. We talk, and last thing I'll say, Pierce, we talk about the economy. By all indicators, Trump was given the strongest economic recovery since COVID. You got to break a few eggs to make an omelet. I don't know what kind of omelet he's making. We talk about the tariff thing. Today's Monday, our tariffs on? are they off? I think the chaos economically of the first seven weeks, Trump and not knowing
Starting point is 00:08:22 what he's doing with his tariffs, I think you have pissed off and confused everybody and has begun to damage the economy he was given. Okay. I mean, we had a president who had dementia before him. So that's a problem. And then to say that we're aligned with Russia right now is not true. We're trying to end an endless war, a war that has no ending, that nobody seems to be able to say, how many tanks does Ukraine need? How many ships do they need? How much money do they need? How many planes do they need?
Starting point is 00:08:52 What do they need to win this war? Nobody can tell you that because they can't win this war. That's just reality. Putin's got nukes. So trying to negotiate a settlement and get to peace, I think, is a good thing. But the idea that we've aligned ourselves with that's... Yeah, I've not heard... I've not heard Donald Trump align himself with Russia
Starting point is 00:09:07 against NATO or the West or even Ukraine. I've heard him get pretty rough with President Zelensky, which many people didn't like. it may be because he feels resistance from Zelensky to actually get around a table with Putin, which it might well be the case. He may not really want to, but he's probably going to have to. Emily, let me bring Emily in here. I mean, Emily, I just want to mention... Yeah, go on. Yeah. Go ahead. Go on. Welcome back, first of all. Welcome back, Emily, first of all.
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Starting point is 00:11:22 because the truth is we're not coming off of the best economy since COVID or whatever he wanted to call it, but in fact, we're still facing the consequences of what Joe Biden did from his first in office as president. And now, I don't want to repeat the repetitive rhetoric of, you know, it's Biden's fault, it's Biden's fault, because Trump is in the process of fixing it. But the truth is, because of his actions and the prime example is cutting off the pipeline in Canada, the oil pipeline, and skyrocketing oil prices, which then inevitably leads to every single price skyrocketing the United States.
Starting point is 00:11:52 We're still coming off of that. We're still coming off of consumers' lack of confidence. Under Joe Biden, there were two what could possibly lead to world wars that broke out under America's weak leadership that now consumers are spending very conservatively because we don't know what the trajectory looks like. Now under Trump, we're gaining our confidence back, but we are coming off of the worst economy because of Joe Biden. Now, Trump doesn't have this magical wand that within the first 50 days of office, he can fix it,
Starting point is 00:12:18 but he's implementing the right policies on getting us on the path to fix it. And yes, there comes growing pains. Of course, it's not going to fix itself overnight, but we are coming off of the worst economy. Well, I think, look, I would say, well, I would say on that, it wasn't the worst economy. Look, America's economy has actually outperformed pretty much everybody else's since the pandemic ended. So it's all a question of degree. I mean, compared to the UK's economy, America's been on fire the last few years. However, Trump has been persistent in saying it could have been doing a lot better,
Starting point is 00:12:51 and now it's incumbent on him to actually prove that. Let me bring in Brianna. He's been waiting patiently here. I thought that Dave Rubin made a good point. The thing we didn't mention in the first 50 days was so much we could have mentioned was what's happened at the border, you know, where it's demonstrable, massive, immediate success there. the number of people coming over the border illegally has been dramatically cut.
Starting point is 00:13:15 I mean, do you, as an American, welcome that. As an independent left populist, I think this conversation is exactly why we need a workers' party in this country. You opened Pierce by mentioning that Trump seems to be admitting that there's going to be, quote, growing pains. It's not just an admission. Republicans have been telegraphing this and pointing specifically to Malay and Argentina as an example of the economic policy they want to pursue. This is not an accident, nor is it a consequence of inheriting Biden's economy, which I have no interest whatsoever to defend. But it is worth noting that Donald Trump is implementing an agenda that is purposefully throwing the country, if not into recession, then toward it. Because we have to ask ourselves the question of who he represents and who he is working for.
Starting point is 00:14:02 But what about my question? There were three billion. There was a lot that was said. I'm sorry, Pierce, if I could just respond to a couple of things before getting to the immigration. You can come to the other stuff, but on that specific point about the southern border, to me, to me, look, as somebody who is described as an exceptional alien on my immigration status to the United States, that's actually what you guys call me on my paperwork,
Starting point is 00:14:27 who's gone through the laborious process of applying legally for a visa to enter the country and so on. You know, I've been horrified by the scale of illegal immigration under the Biden administration. It was completely out of control, up to as many as 10 million people are believed to have come in illegally. And Trump, quite clearly, probably the most significant achievement, I would say, inarguable achievement in the first 50 days, has been he stemmed this tidal wave of people coming over the border. And I'd simply ask you, as an American, do you welcome that? Are you pleased? Yeah, what I welcome as an American is upholding the law, our immigration system, and a path to citizenship. The significant backlog of undocumented people in the country is not a consequence of border crossings,
Starting point is 00:15:14 which, yes, of course, do spike in Valley and did have a spike under the Biden administration, which is now more in a valley, in part because of Trump's policies. Of course, that is the case. But we also need to look forward to whether or not the Trump administration is going to handle the millions of Americans who are waiting for a path towards citizenship. And that incentivizes those long ways, incentivizes people taking illegal means. But this is the fundamental question that I know it's very awkward for people to ask themselves because many of the very affluent people on this panel are implicated by it.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Who policy agenda is Trump pursuing when at inauguration he is backed by three billionaires? Elon Musk, Bezos, and Mark Zuckerberg. Why is it that we are talking about the end prices as a front-knows? They are three of the most successful people in the history of planet Earth. I mean, do you have a sort of ideological problem? with unbelievably successful people and job creators in America from helping the president. I have, I would love to answer that question.
Starting point is 00:16:17 I have an ideological problem with the idea that a billionaire, the richest man on earth, someone who is recently, only recently an American citizen, spending almost $300 million to buy an election and advance his agenda standing in front of the cabinet, as though he is the president of United States of America, and pushing policies like a tax cut that would raise taxes on the lower 50% of Americans
Starting point is 00:16:43 while making a tax cut for the top 1%. When you have the very top 1% fraction of 1% standing on the room and advancing these policies, I think it's worth it for the American people to ask why the egg price conversation is talked about as though it's a footnote, while we're not talking about soaring housing costs, why nobody can afford the cost of education,
Starting point is 00:17:02 while nobody can afford healthy food for their family, while nobody can afford car repairs, and why somebody like an independent Senator Bernie Sanders was going around the country talking about those things, turning out huge crowds in red districts that Donald Trump won. Okay, Dave Rubin, your response. It's so funny. You say Trump wants to advance his agenda.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Emily, just so short to say that I'll come to you, Dave. Emily? No, it's so funny how, Brianna, you just said that Elon Musk bought his way into the election to advance his agenda. Meanwhile, his agenda is to eliminate waste and fraud from the government, and he's been doing a superb job in doing so. And so far, the loudest, of what Elon is doing are quite literally the most guilty in indulging in this waste and fraud and waste of taxpayers' dollars.
Starting point is 00:17:42 So it's ironic that you said that. Okay, I want to play, Dave, a clip from SNL at the weekend, mocking Elon. Then get your response. Let's take a look. So you two need to start acting like mature adults, okay? So let's begin with Marco. Polo. No, Elon. I'm trying to talk to Marco.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Poano. What is that? What's this? Eli, you got to listen to me, okay? Marco is a very important part of the team. And we all need to... Phase one of my plan is complete. Ingrat yourself to the president and take over the media. But was taking this job a bad idea?
Starting point is 00:18:23 A lot of people seem to really hate me. My Tesla stock is crashing, and my personal net worth just dropped by $100 billion. What's quite a funny sketch, I have to say, Dave. But is there a point there? that Elon Musk might be getting some buyer's remorse about getting his way into the real seat of power in America, but actually now copping a lot of flag.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Do you think he might be beginning to regret it? I don't think so. I'll give them credit. The Austin Powers' callback was kind of good. But look, the rest of, yes, is he a little autistic and like this is the day of autists now? Yeah, he is. Okay, part of it.
Starting point is 00:19:03 That's also part of his success, actually. As for buyer's remorse, I don't think so at all. I just watched, we played it on my show this morning. I mean, just over the last couple of days, you know, he walks into the meeting with the entire cabinet saying that this is his words. He said literally the greatest cabinet in American history. You know, this idea that successful people being part of the government is somehow bad, that people who build things, who send rockets to Mars,
Starting point is 00:19:30 and who build incredible things like, I don't know, the Amazon marketplace that allows you to get things at your house three hours later, that these people are all inherently evil. Someone like David Sacks, who's worth hundreds of millions of dollars, who's now heading up AI and crypto, these people are doing these jobs for either no money or virtually no money in their worlds because they care about America.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Bobby Kennedy has said repeatedly that he has never seen a time in his life where more good, qualified people who do not need the headache of this. You think Elon wants the headache of having the Soros-funded protesters at his Tesla places like I saw this weekend in Miami. He doesn't want that, but I don't think he has any buyer's remorse.
Starting point is 00:20:14 I think he is a deeply proud American who understands how great this country is, and it was heading off the cliff. So, yeah, are there going to be pain points not only for the country but for him personally? Has it attacked his reputation? Is he going to not get invited to some of the elite parties? Yeah, but is he going to probably save the country in the meantime? I think so. Joe Walsh, we've seen some...
Starting point is 00:20:38 Hang on, hang on, bring on, I'll just go to Joe. We've seen some tensions being reported. New York Times, I think, reported about Marco Rubio, excuse me, some tension there with Elon Musk and a big argument between them in the cabinet and so on. Look, you're going to get arguments between smart people in powerful positions. I don't think there's any doubt about that.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Followed politics long enough. But you've also got all of them in the cabinet are there because Donald Trump got elected and they are therefore effectively elected officials in that sense. Elon is the outlier. He's the one that's just there as a kind of unofficial advisor to the president,
Starting point is 00:21:18 but apparently with almost unlimited powers. Is that sustainable? Or are you going to see a lot more tension creeping in between the official cabinet members and Elon? Well, I don't know, Pierce, how sustainable is. I worry that it's not constitutional. And look, you're right.
Starting point is 00:21:37 The cabinet members in Trump are going to reflect more, much more so than Elon, where the voters are. And a lot of what Elon and Doge have been doing, and nobody on this panel knows what Elon and Doge have been doing. Pierce, you don't, I don't. That's a problem. Well, hang on. Hang on, hang on.
Starting point is 00:21:56 We have seen a lot of stuff they're doing, actually. They've been actually remarkably transparent. We've seen, for example, on USAID, we saw some alarming, ridiculous waste of money. So we are seeing what they're doing. Pierce, we don't know. We have no accurate accounting of what's been cut. Emily, I think, talked about waste and fraud. There's been no Doge reporting on waste and fraud that's been cut.
Starting point is 00:22:26 There's a reason why, and there are over 100 lawsuits have been filed. Maybe I'm biased. I say this as a former member of Congress. Our founders made Congress the most powerful branch for a reason because they feared a king. When I was a congressman, I would yell every time Obama picked up his pen and his phone and enacted an executive order. We're a million miles beyond that now. And a lot of this stuff is just fundamentally not constitutional. That should still matter.
Starting point is 00:23:00 But what about what about? But what is he cut? Joe, let me ask you're not happy. He has been cut. Just to put it in content, hang on, hang on, Joe, Joe, I want to just, Marco Rubio tweeted today about the USAID purge being complete. After a six-week review,
Starting point is 00:23:15 we are officially canceling 83% of the programs at USAID. The 5,200 contracts that are now canceled, spent tens of billions of dollars in ways that did not serve and in some ways even harmed, he said, the core national interests of the United States. In consultation with Congress, we intend for the remaining 18% of programs we are keeping approximately 1,000 to now be administered more effectively under the State Department. Now, there'll be a lot of Americans who say, good, good. If you've uncovered a load of tens of billions of dollars being squandered on stupid programs and you're going to cull them and the American taxpayer is a beneficiary, what's the bad news?
Starting point is 00:23:58 Two quick things, Pierce. Again, USAID, most Americans have no freaking clue what it is. USAID is an independent agency. There's a reason why every cut that's been made supposedly the USAID has been taken to court because Trump and Musk do not have the authority to just get rid of that agency. They don't. It's a separate agency made separate by an act of Congress. Same thing with the Department of Education.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I'm not a fan of the Federal Department of Education, but Trump and Musk can't get rid of it, Pierce. Only Congress can. The Constitution still got to matter. Pierce, can I interject. Yeah, you can. So I want to also point out, of course, Congress has the highest power. And when they allowed for USAID to spend our taxpaying dollars
Starting point is 00:24:51 to go to allocated groups, I'm sure what they didn't expect was millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars going to, transgender choirs and DEI in Ireland that a lot of the waste that Elon Musk is now cutting out. So given that we have the clear proof that our money that Congress passed is going to things that we didn't approve of it going to, yes, by all means you have the authority to undo it. And here's another thing I want to bring up. When I went to the Oval Office and Secretary Rubio was speaking to, you know, the group of
Starting point is 00:25:18 influencers who came, he was speaking about Doge and Elon Musk. Why? Because we wanted to know exactly what their agenda is. We wanted the transparency and they gave it to us. He pointed out something that blew my mind where he said he and Elon spoke that morning, and Secretary Rubio asked Elon, why did you target USAID first and what's next in which he said Social Security is next? He targeted USAID because when Elon said, I want to eliminate waste and fraud, they were the loudest opposition. And Elon thought to himself, well, why would you be opposed to saving taxpayer dollars?
Starting point is 00:25:50 That's when he did his deep dive into USAID to see our money is going to garbage. And now you're questioning, well, what is Elon doing? He's going to go group by group piece by piece and start tackling all the waste and fraud. So the fact that you haven't seen the full scope of it yet is only because we're just getting started with this. Right. And Brianna, I would say that what is clear is that the American people on this issue on Doge and the waste that's being exposed, they are in a big majority right behind the administration. So there are other polls that show them not as confident about other things, but on Doge, that seems to be a very popular thing. I'm really glad my co-panelist pointed out that Social Security is next.
Starting point is 00:26:34 And polls show that Republican voters also are overwhelmingly opposed to cuts to Social Security. The majority of Americans rely on Social Security to keep their elderly parents and relatives and loved ones. from living on the street. And not to mention Medicaid, Medicare, these are some of the most popular policies in America that even Trump understands its bad politics to put them on the chopping block. And that's why he ran away from those policies
Starting point is 00:27:03 in the Bartol Romo Fox News interview just this week. But the reality is that that's exactly what he's going for and the numbers that have been articulated by the Trump administration and Elon Musk for what he anticipates in terms of budget cuts cannot happen without significant cuts to programs exactly like Social Security. And this is why the earlier point that was made about millionaires and billionaires, I'm sorry, if I could just finish this point without interruption.
Starting point is 00:27:28 This is why the earlier point about millionaires and billionaires who are running this government and why it is that we should be concerned about it is so germane. There was a 2014 Princeton study that showed that there is no relationship between what Americans want, what voters articulate in polls, and what actually gets passed in Congress, whether it's a Democratic Congress or Republican Congress. The reason is because oligarchs, billionaires, have captured our government through lobbyists. There was a question asked on Fox News recently,
Starting point is 00:27:55 why is Northern Virginia the most affluent place in America? And the implication was that it was because of government spending on government programs, when the reality is it's because that's where the lobbyists live. And that's where all of our government money is going. The instinct to want to look at where our tax dollars are being misdirected is the right one. But should we be skeptical of the fact that the literal richest person in the world and the number two and the number three and the number four are standing there telling you that the problem is the programs that are keeping your elderly loved ones sustained and not the military spending. The Pentagon budget is three times the budget of the Department of Education. Our military spending is more than the next 10 military spending of the next 10 countries beneath us combined. Elon Musk is a defense contractor himself. And that is why you're not going to see him. I'm talking about cuts to people like him who personally have hundreds and thousands,
Starting point is 00:28:48 sorry, hundreds of millions of dollars of worth of wealth that they've gotten through government contracts. No, they want to throw your grandmother out of the hospital and your family members onto the street. Okay, Dave, they want to show you, they want to throw your family into the street. It's so boring and it's so thin. Yes, Elon's doing all of this to make more money. He was like, yes, I really need another yacht. I don't even know that he has a yacht.
Starting point is 00:29:08 He doesn't, you know, the guy walks around an old ragged t-shirts. That's number one. Number two, let's try it this way. I would say, Brianna, in some sense, you're kind of directionally right in some of this stuff. But let's try it this way. First, as Emily pointed out, no one's talking about bringing down Medicaid and taking out these programs. They're talking about getting the waste and fraud out, which it is obvious. There are 150-year-olds that are getting benefits, 300-year-olds getting benefits.
Starting point is 00:29:34 That's not true. And you have to rely on lies like that to manufacture consent to cut a popular policy. That's a patent line. But no one's saying cut the policy. They're saying get the waste out of the policy. But let's try it a different way. David, what's- I would be for,
Starting point is 00:29:48 I would be for lowering taxes on everybody. I would be for lowering taxes on absolutely everybody. So the government has less money to waste and spend on nonsensical things. I want you to keep more of your money. Do you want me to keep more of my money? No, because you're a millionaire, Dave Rubin. I don't think you should keep more of your money.
Starting point is 00:30:09 And that's exactly what Donald Trump is doing. So you want to take more of my money. What right do you have to take my money? Wait a minute. What right do you have to take my money? No. And do what you want? I hate to break it to the panel.
Starting point is 00:30:20 The poor people work hard to. Wait a minute. I hate to bring it to the panel, but poor people work hard too. I want everyone to pay less taxes. They've been working just as hard. You think the jealousy is virtue. This is why the left is collapsing. They've been working as hard as they've been working.
Starting point is 00:30:37 I think it's really fascinating that if someone sticks up for working people in this country, they're called a communist. I want working people to have more of America. You want Dave Rubin. You want Dave Rubin to give up more of his money. And how there was a chicken in every pot. And how Americans were so much happier in the 1950s. Well, in the 1950s, the top marginal tax rate was 90% on the top richest voters.
Starting point is 00:30:59 That is how you end up getting a country and a social safety net where we have parks and swimming pools, in schools, in museums, in safety and libraries. And the kind of country that we remembered were one on one family income. You could support the kind of family. do you need? How much appears his money? I know he's not fully in American, but he's probably got more money to me. How much appears his money do you want? The question should it be whether or not, why are you so preoccupied with a millionaire money? I'm telling you, David, I'm telling you Dave, that there are a poor and emiserated people in this country who signed up to vote for Donald Trump because they believe that he's right. And I believe he is right about trade policies like NAFTA being unfavorable to the American worker. He is right about that. sort of thing. And frankly, Bernie Sanders running on those policies back in 2016 and 2020 is why a lot of people, independent voters were attracted to him. And he was the number one
Starting point is 00:31:49 candidate with independent voters. And Democrats killing his campaign is exactly why they have the Trump phenomenon right now. But those kinds of policies bringing jobs home to Americans are right and good. How much? If we took all of Iran's money and all of Bezos's money and all appears his money, how much? What do we need? Cunning the economy, intentionally cratering the economy, driving, like what happened in Argentina, where 50% of the population was driven into poverty, saying that that's going to be a tough time that people are going to have to endure
Starting point is 00:32:18 when that's endurance that's squarely put on the shoulders of poor and working class people in the country is a tragedy. Are you arguing that the economy of Argentina is not booming right now after five years of disaster? Booming for whom?
Starting point is 00:32:32 Throwing 50% of your population into poverty and having authoritarian crackdowns on speech and protests to prevent people from articulating their democratic right to rise up That's exactly what's happening here in America as well. And people should be very afraid. Here, I'll make one political point.
Starting point is 00:32:50 There's a reason why my former Republican colleagues in the House are being told not to do in-person town halls. Because Dave and Emily maybe love what's going on, but I think there is a lot of confusion out there and a lot of regular folk, even regular Republicans, when they see headlines like 80 to 100,000 veterans losing their jobs, this is the kind of stuff that's going to hit Trump hard politically if he can't explain what it means.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Yeah, I think that's a perfectly reasonable point. I want to change a topic, if I may, to Gavin Newsom. And let me start with you, Emily, on this if I can. Gavin Newsom is now seemed to be on the sort of road to Damascus here. One of the all-time great conversions from Chief Wokey of California. into a guy that I'd ever heard any personal pronouns? What? Latinx? No, at once, I think.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Et cetera, et cetera. Even now he's outraged about trans athletes in women's sport, which I don't remember him being before. I thought before he thought it was a great idea. So are we seeing now a movement by the progressive left in America on the Democrat side very sharply turning back to the centre because they realize after that election, shalacking that they took,
Starting point is 00:34:10 that actually the progressive agenda is unelectable now in America. Of course, and regarding Newsom specifically, I think it's clear he's trying to make his run for presidency in 28, and he realized that now that the woke wave is kind of dying down and coming to its end, that
Starting point is 00:34:28 campaign policy won't work from anymore. But what's really good about living in a digital era is that everything someone says can be fact-checked by their own history and their records. So everything that he said with Charlie Kirk during his podcast, has already been debunked by his own words. So he said he's not against transgender.
Starting point is 00:34:45 He is against transgender in sports. But previously we've seen that he's protected men in women's sports. He, you know, backtracked himself on basically half of his policies that in his own Twitter comments now we're holding against him. But the truth of the matter is that it's not just Gavin Newsome. It's a lot of the left-wingerers who I would call woke because I have no problem with you being a Democrat if you're true to your values. But this woke disease, now that Trump ended it, they want to get on the first.
Starting point is 00:35:10 winning path. So if they see that it's not winning, they're totally going to flip-flop all of their policies, lose their credibility, lose their trustworthy reputation just to re-insure that they're going to win. Now, I don't think Newsom stands a chance, especially if he'll run against Vance, but I just find that ironic that suddenly he's doing this complete 180. So in conclusion, when it comes to him, they say you can judge a parent by the way they raise their kids. So let's just equivocate that to governor. If you can judge a governor on the way that their state is running, Newsom gets a zero. The St. This is, for example, example, I'm a big fan of him, we'll get an A in my book. So I would really urge people,
Starting point is 00:35:46 don't listen to Newsom's words. In fact, don't listen to anyone's words. Follow what they do, follow their actions, and follow what they put into place. Well, I think that's always a good idea. That's what I would urge him to do. Yeah, even if it, especially with Donald Trump, for example, I would always say focus on what he actually does rather than what he says all day. Joe, Joe Walsh, I mean, I want to play a clip. This is of Democrats pretending to be video game characters in a loading screen with the title at the top of the video, your fighter. Which one would you pick of this lot? I mean, Joe, I didn't think anything could get more pathetic
Starting point is 00:36:36 than what I saw in Congress when Trump made his speech yesterday over night in terms of the Democrats' reaction. That video, I mean, the idea you would back any of that lot to fight for you to open a Chris packet is beyond parody. I mean, it's a ludicrous, almost like a parody, actually. You watch it and you assume it's a spoof. It's not. It's real. They think this is exuding an air of powerful women
Starting point is 00:37:02 who are going to run the world. No, they're not. Yeah, you know, Pierce, I completely agree. I wrote a piece just before the election. And you know I don't like Trump, and I think he attacks the Constitution every day, blah, blah, blah. But I wrote a piece, and I said, the worst thing about the Democrats,
Starting point is 00:37:21 if Kamala Harris would win, is the Democrats will not address their fundamental problem. They've been able to run cycle after, cycle on Trump is bad, Trump is bad, Trump is bad, and they've been able to win. That day is done. Gone. So now that day is gone. So now Democrats have to actually stand for something, and I think I agree with most people on the panel, they've got to move away from their far left and meet most Americans where they are in the middle. I don't see that happening, though. No, I don't. I mean, Brianna, I mean, that video was just utterly cringe-making. I mean, I don't know who,
Starting point is 00:37:59 is directing the Democrats. But if you look at, again, the response to Trump's speech with the ridiculous series of things that were doing, the fact that Democrats, so-called caring, compassionate liberals, could sit on their seats when a young 13-year-old boy who'd survived brain cancer after 12 surgeries lives his dream of becoming a Secret Service agent for the day. The idea that a Democrat would make a political protest
Starting point is 00:38:28 by staying on their seat for that moment and not applauding. I thought was utterly shameful, but really indicative that they will literally do anything that is anti-Trump, even if it means treating a 13-year-old boy with such incredible disrespect. Yeah, I think what's interesting here is that we're not seeing a robust response, a substantive response, I think, to Joe Walsh's point, to what's going on right now, and the broad discontent among Democrats,
Starting point is 00:39:01 obviously about Donald Trump's policies, because you're right. Democrats don't stand for anything and they haven't for a really long time. Now, the leftist critique, and again earlier, the words like Far Left were used to refer to Gavin Newsom, I want to be clear that he's a mainstream,
Starting point is 00:39:14 multimillionaire, corporate Democrat right in the middle of the party. And that's the part of the Democratic Party, the core establishment Democratic Party that has over-reliad on identity politics, weaponizing identity politics in various ways, because they don't have anything material, substantive, economic to offer the people of the country.
Starting point is 00:39:33 They do exactly what the corporate right does, which is to go back and forth about cultural issues, hoping nobody notices that 60% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck, hoping nobody notices that while life expectancies are great for the top 1%, you live seven years less long than the top 1% if you're in the bottom's 50% of this country. And so as long as they're doing TikTok dances or holding up paddles, or we're talking about wokeness,
Starting point is 00:39:59 or the mere 10 trans athletes in the NCAA, you can convince a lot of people to go to the polls and pull a lever for one side or the other, and 10, 20, 30 years from now, they wake up and say, what happened to my mortgage? What happened to my life? What happened to my ability to raise a family and have kids? And that's exactly the conversation they want us to be having,
Starting point is 00:40:19 instead of focusing on why it is that our government run by corporatists and billionaires, regardless of it's a Democratic government or Republican government, seem to only consistently serve one segment of the population, and it's the very, very rich. Okay, Dave Rubin, this... Just can I add to that, please?
Starting point is 00:40:34 I'll go back to you, Emily. Let Dave just respond to it, because you'd be waiting a while. I mean, Dave, this position that Democrats find themselves in is it's almost embarrassing, actually, to watch them. They don't seem to have any idea where they need to go. I mean, Newsom, to his credit, seems to have identified that the progressive stuff is just to... over, that people do not want to hear it, they don't want to see it, they're done with all of it,
Starting point is 00:41:01 and he's trying to move, and I don't think he's going to work for him because he's too attached to it. But when you see the behavior of the Democrats right now, they're like a bunch of kids. No, well, look, quickly on Newsom, because I have not ever held back with this guy, and I very publicly fled California because of Gavin Newsom after I campaigned against him. I mean, I think the guy's basically the Antichrist. He's the devil incarnate. And this, he's the devil incarnate. And you don't have to trust me on that. A million people have fled California, over a million people post-COVID, or during or post-COVID. And many of them have ended up where I am in the free state of Florida, or they ended up in Tennessee,
Starting point is 00:41:37 or they ended up in Texas. And that is not a coincidence that those are all-red Republican states. But look, the Democrats don't know what to do because they went all in on something that was completely fraudulent from day one. Let me address the pronoun thing for a second, because if you had ever believed that, say, the Latin X or the he, she, they, them, Zezer, if you had ever believed that any of that was legit or important, well, right now, now as evil white supremacist,
Starting point is 00:42:06 Donald Trump is in the White House, you would be doubling down on it because your fight would be more important than ever. But what happened the second, what happened the second Donald Trump took office? AOC magically got her pronouns out of her bio. Pete got his pronouns out of his bio. Gavin's pretending he never said Latin X.
Starting point is 00:42:25 They're all abandoning the position. because the positions were based on ideology having nothing to do with reality. I assure you, I am here in Miami. I spend all of my days around Cubans and Venezuelans. If I walked down the street or if I went to Kai A. Ocho and said, hello, my Latink's friends, I would get a mojito thrown in my face. So nobody believed this. They're abandoning their positions faster than they ushered them in because they're all BS, period.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Yeah, Bobby Brenner, you can answer it. I would say I lost it with them completely when Sam Smith, the singer, having pretended to be straight, then he comes out as a gay man, then he comes out, as I can't remember, it was non-binary gender fluid or something. And then we had to call him a singular human being who we'd already had to rename several times. We then had to call him they then.
Starting point is 00:43:12 And I thought of him when that ad came out that Trump did, it was so successful, which was the Carmel is for they then, Donald Trump is for you. I thought that was remarkably powerful in its simplicity. You cannot look at one person. and call them a plural. It is bullshit. Breanna, over to you.
Starting point is 00:43:31 I mean, I don't think I follow pop music as closely as you do. But to Dave Rubin's point, I think it's worth noting that the questionnaire that was made into an ad that was very affected against Kamala Harris about gender reassignment surgery for trans prisoners was a consequence of, yeah, it was a consequence of the Democratic Party, the same corporate dims I'm talking about. Not leftist like Bernie Sanders, not the so-called far-lawful. left, which is an economic populist movement, but these identitarian centrist in the Democratic Party, trying to take Bernie out in 2020 by trying to get to his left. They couldn't get to his left on economic policy. They refused to back a policy that 49% of Republicans and 88% of Democrats support like Medicare for All because their private insurance donors, their health care
Starting point is 00:44:16 insurance donors, their big pharma donors wouldn't let them back it. But they could try to get to his left on social issues. And they circulated that questionnaire, hoping that Bernie, as he did, wouldn't say tick yes to some of the more fringe cultural aspects of it. And ironically, ended up coming back to bite Kamala Harris in the butt. But the core lesson here is this is what moderate, centrist establishment people do to distract the public from the fact that they are not delivering on the populist economic policies that people on both sides of the aisle in a bipartisan way actually want. And there is a way that it's worth it for historical reasons to understand that
Starting point is 00:44:54 and talk about it here in this context. But the core takeaway should be, okay, we agree that Gavin Newsom is an empty suit, that he'll change whichever way the wind is going, that these people had no principles when it came to the pronoun stuff. And I agree with that wholeheartedly. That is a critique from the left. But what do you do with that? Do you just keep people polarized and fighting with each other?
Starting point is 00:45:13 Or do you say now we realize that we're actually united on these core issues and we're going to make a demand whether it's of Donald Trump or God forbid of Gavin Newsom becomes president or whoever it is to actually have our needs met in this country? Nobody on this panel responded to the horrifying trait that you live longer in this country if you are rich than if you were on the bottom 50%, not even poor. Well, yeah, but hang on. But, Brianna, maybe the reason for that is that is not an unusual statistic around the world.
Starting point is 00:45:40 I mean, where you have rich and poor. It is. America's health outcome. Pierce, this might be, this might be alarming. In the UK, I can guarantee you, the wealthy. I can guarantee you the wealthiest people in the UK live longer than the poorest, right? But that's not the statistic. But that's not the same. I'm saying, I specifically said, not just the poor people are not living as long.
Starting point is 00:46:00 It's the rich people who are living seven years longer. And we have to ask ourselves why in America we pay more for our health care than in any other similarly situated economic situation for fewer outcomes. Listen, I'm in the UK where if you fall over and break a leg, you get free health care, right? If I do that in Manibu, I have a blood standing over me demanding $20,000. You could go bankrupt. Yeah. Emily, you wanted to get involved in this.
Starting point is 00:46:25 You know, I keep seeing a reoccurring theme from Brianna that it seems like she wants to wage this war on capitalism. That's what it seems like to me. But I want to point out something. And if you could remove your ego and restore some common sense for more. I do want to fight for poor and working class people. I do want to fight for poor and working.
Starting point is 00:46:44 I got it. I got it. It's fine. That's not my point. My point is that you keep criticizing Donald Trump. Rihanna, I understand you of crystal clear. To be able to afford housing. I understand you crystal clear.
Starting point is 00:46:54 And I see that you are mocking. and derisive of that reality, and I think the audience hears that loud and clear. No, no, the issue here. And that we're all self-made. And we deserve to enjoy the fruits of our hard work. So do me a favor. Let me finish my point. You are very critical of Donald Trump for seeming to want to take advice from one of the most
Starting point is 00:47:12 successful people in the world. So let me tell you something. As the owner of a skincare company, when I was starting my company, the first thing I did, and I'm lucky enough to have the resources, was go to the billionaires who sold their companies from billions and try to replicate a model. of how they've achieved so much of their success. Now, if Donald Trump can have three, let's say Bezos, Zuckerberg, and Musk,
Starting point is 00:47:32 self-made successful billionaires who revolutionized the modern-day world that we live in, and he has the privilege to get to learn from them, how ignorant and egotistical would he be to not so graciously accept their advice? You know, you keep criticizing them because they're rich, but they are self-made men. Trump would be insane to not want to include them in an administration and be insane to not advise
Starting point is 00:47:55 receive their advice on how to make our country wealthy again. All right, Joe, you want to jump in? If George Soros was standing behind Joe Biden and in his cabinet meetings and directing his policy, you would rightly understand that it was in a pre-brain. George Soros has spent the billions trying to destroy capitalism in the Western world. That's the difference. Last time I checked, none of you were called Joe apart from the guy on the right. I don't have to argue with any of you because the audience.
Starting point is 00:48:21 They're Joe over. Just just one really quick point. Brianna is right in this. We are living in a populist moment. I think Trump is an evil demagogue populist, but Trump's always recognized the moment. The Democrats have never recognized this moment. I campaigned for three months for Kamala Harris
Starting point is 00:48:41 every day in a battleground state, and a lot of regular people who only pay attention to politics every now and then, they all told me the same thing. They know Trump's a bad guy, but they said the Democrats are snobs who look down on me. The Democrats got to figure out a way
Starting point is 00:48:58 to connect to regular people again. That's their biggest problem. Okay, Dave, I want to just, before we finish, just mention the fact that you came after me big time on X this week in a furious onslaught. And Brianna, to my astonishment, let to my defense. Well, Brianna leapt to my defense, actually, on X.
Starting point is 00:49:16 So let's play this out on my show where I have more control over your outburst. No, to be serious, it was an interesting point, really, because the point that I was making this is about Israel cutting off the power into Gaza. I actually did not know the full answer to the questions I was raising is the honest truth, which is, well, how much power in Gaza comes from Israel?
Starting point is 00:49:37 It turns out more than 50% does. It also turns out that pretty much from the start of the war, so October 2023, the power has been cut by 90%. And my question, when they cut the rest off this week, was if you think about how this ends all this, and hopefully sooner or rather later, and you get to a stage where you can move forward
Starting point is 00:50:03 and you try and rebuild things and everything else, the point I was making was, Dave, and I'm interested in what you say to this, do the Palestinians not just have to have the basic same fundamental rights to things like their own power, their own water, their own food supplies, all these kind of things, without Israel having the ability, ironically the power, if you like,
Starting point is 00:50:27 to just yank it whenever they feel like it. And I know the history, because I've studied it, I know that this was the deal that was done and they claim it back from the Palestinian Authority, from taxation on the Palestinians and so on. I know all that. But it just seems to me, until the Palestinians can honestly say to themselves,
Starting point is 00:50:45 we have the same human rights as our Israeli neighbors, you're never actually going to get rid of the problem. Well, as I said to you on Twitter, I think what I, my exact quote was, peers respectfully, I think you're confused about the issue, but what you just said there was actually closer to the truth because you're right. It's the Palestinians who have to look at the Palestinians and figure out what they want. Remember, Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005. There is not one Jew in Gaza until October, basically 9th of 2023 after October 7th. They wanted not only nothing to do with Gaza, They wanted to leave them to self-rule.
Starting point is 00:51:22 They said, we'll take our, they had, I think, 8,000 citizens there. They said, we'll take everyone out. Hitler would have loved the place, totally Juden, Ryan, right? And they said, do what you want. There was no blockade. By the way, no one ever talks, and I did tweet this to you, no one ever talks about how Egypt has a border with Gaza. Gaza was part of Egypt before 1967.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Egypt's wall, maybe your guys can pull it up when you post this, the wall that Egypt built with Gaza is massive. has trenches and barbed wire and cement and everything else. Israel, I've been there to the kibbutzs that were largely destroyed. They had a freaking, they had a simple chain link fence like you might have around a dog park. But yes, I completely agree. In 2005 and for the last 15 plus years, almost 20 years, they have had a chance using the same exact set of border there that is the same beach as Tel Aviv to build the most prosperous,
Starting point is 00:52:17 wonderful society where all of their oil-rich Arab brothers could have put in tons of money, and they could have spit in the eye of the Jews and said, look what we have built in Gaza. Instead, they took everything, not only just the money, they took literally the pipes that were bringing them water to turn it into rockets to kill Jews. Okay, but Dave, I would say this to you. Okay, but let me say this, though. I would say this. I hear you, right?
Starting point is 00:52:40 And I've read a lot of this in the last 24 hours to just inform myself really about the relative of all this. But look at the situation in Gaza where you have 50% of the populations under 18. So 50% of kids. We know that many, many thousands, let's not get into the exact number because everyone always goes, it's not that, it's this. But we know many, many thousands of children have died. Tens of thousands. We've got nothing to do with this. And they've died. Turning off the power into Gaza, given the state of Gaza right now. Release the hostages, peers. That's the answer. Release the hostages. I agree. If your wife got killed and your daughter was, and your daughter was kidnapped.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Release the hostages, and then I'll come on this show and tell you Israel should leave them alone. I agree. Every hostage should be released and Hamas are a despicable terror organization. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the innocent children more of whom will now die inevitably because power's
Starting point is 00:53:34 being completely cut off in Gaza, which led me just to ask, I don't think Israel should have that power to do that. Israel doesn't want that power. You're 100% correct. Israel shouldn't She would feed them or give them electricity or anything else. Allow me, please. Where are the Egyptians?
Starting point is 00:53:51 Where are the Qataris? Here's. I thought this was the United. The Palestinians. Hang on. Don't talk about once. Emily, then Brianna. Then Joe.
Starting point is 00:53:59 You keep going to the root of the problem. You said, why does Israel have the power, which you said is not 100% of the power over their electricity, but let's say over 50% in controlling their electricity? The question is, well, why do they have that power? Israel, by the way, including the United States and many Arab countries have sent billions of dollars to Gaza, as Rubin said, to build infrastructure, hospital schools, and instead they build
Starting point is 00:54:22 terror tunnels and they build rocket launchers and nurseries and Hamas Israel bombed the infrastructure. Israel has reportedly bombed the power plant. Because, as I just said, infrastructure is used as terrorist hqs. Terrorist
Starting point is 00:54:37 HQs are built, not infrastructure. Even their hospital is corrupted. So now Israel can call hospitals or Hamas headquarters. So do me favor with Gaza's infrastructure. They don't have critical infrastructure. They've got what Israel has done.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Brianna, you're hysterical. Let me speak. Save your hysterics for later. Critical infrastructure in Gaza. Oh my gosh. Say your point. Critical infrastructure. Bomb it.
Starting point is 00:55:00 And then after the fact, do these investigations that don't get covered on shows like these. Because their infrastructure has their infrastructure has terrorist activities. There's plenty of proof. Go to Al-Shefa hospital. When Gaza, when the IDS. When the IDS does up,
Starting point is 00:55:15 Baby, nurse, you. I don't. It's hard to hear you when you're both talking. Hang on, hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Ladies, I can't hear either of you, because you're both talking at the same time. So I would simply say, well, Joe, I'll come to you, Joe, but my simple, my point remains that on a humanitarian level, given the scale of child death in this war in Gaza, it seems to me inhumane.
Starting point is 00:55:42 And yes, I accept Hamasah inhumane. I accept the keeping of any hostages is inhumane. But it can also, but all these things, hang on, hang on, don't all start again. But it can also be inhumane to turn off all the power and to stop the fuel going in now, which will only lead to more children dying. That's my point. Joe. Pierce, how do they prevent the power being turned off?
Starting point is 00:56:07 I'm so sorry. Hang on. I don't remember you two being called Joe. Pierce, Brianna, please. I'm so sorry, Pierce, but you raised this talking about my seat. Am I able to talk about what my tweet actually said? Yes, I'll give you the last four, Brianna. Let me just take 20 seconds.
Starting point is 00:56:21 On October 7th, the governing entity of Gaza went to war against Israel. Give me another example in the history of war where the attacked country needs to pay for electricity for the country that declared war on them. There's no obligation that Israel should have to pay. and supply the electricity to the country that went to war against them. Yeah, have Zelens speak. Can I address that exact point? Aid while you're at it.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Wait, Pierce, please, can I please address that exact point? Yes, you can quickly. We've got to wrap up. A important point in misdirection. So for one, the mythology that Israel pays for the power is wrong. I think it's about $11 million that Gazans pay to Israel for that power that has taken out of tax collections from the people of Gaza. Two, Israel has repeatedly bombed the power infrastructure long before October 7th over the last decades to prevent Gaza from being able to be independent in its power exactly so it can use collective punishment, which isn't just immoral, as you put it, Pierce, but is in fact a war crime. And three, the idea that there was a withdrawal from Gaza in 2005 and therefore it was independent and could thrive and grow and do what it wanted to do, but it chose not to become the next Dubai or whatever it is that Trump said is a misnomer.
Starting point is 00:57:42 were Jews in the Warsaw ghetto free just because Nazis withdraw and stood around on the edges. It is an occupied territory. It has been called an outdoor prison. And that is the reality of the situation. There are not permanent borders. It is the most police and surveilled population on the planet. And that is why there was a, there was the attack on October 7. Okay, everyone, look, the bottom line is, in the Oslo Accords, Israel said they would supply.
Starting point is 00:58:11 and they weren't paying for this privilege. They got the money back. They would supply water, power, and fuel, right? And they said they would do that. So they made a conscious decision to stop that because, and the argument, obviously, is because we're at war and mass want to kill us. I get that.
Starting point is 00:58:32 But there's still a humanitarian aspect of this as there is in any war. And it seems to me to be an inhumane move to do this. And it's also a breach of the hospital. passage exchange. Let they respond to that. I would say a good question, rather than relitigating all of that, would be that Sinai, which Israel used to control, by the way, and gave up for peace with Egypt, Sinai is about
Starting point is 00:58:53 ten times larger than Israel, not just Gaza, about Israel itself. I've been to Sinai. Almost nobody lives there. Egypt has a border. How about Egypt open up the border and let all the Gazans in? Why not? Okay. If everyone's just moving from their ancestral homes, let's let the Zionists move there then.
Starting point is 00:59:10 The problem is if we really cared about the hostages, you wouldn't have Netanyahu flagrantly disregarding the ceasefire agreements and imperiling the lies of hostages, which is causing so many hostage families to protest Netanyahu. Because his goals and his administration's goals have been clear, which is to get rid of Gaza, to take over Gaza, to ethnically cleanse Gaza, to drive them out of the territory, just like Dave Rubin is describing doing right now. And as a consequence, they don't care about the hostage lies more than they do securing that territory. And that is not only a war crime. It's not only a crime to do your elective punishment. We're going to have to wrap. I want to end. I want to end with something that I think will bring joy to all the panel.
Starting point is 00:59:57 I think we can all be united in this moment of sadness, which is that probably the wokenest world leader in the history of planet Earth bid farewell. this week, Justin Trudeau. And you'll be unsurprised to hear that he did so with tears. Let's take a look. Okay, that was Ella Grace Trudeau. Very put together, 16-year-old.
Starting point is 01:00:22 I would not have been able to give that kind of speech at that age. And here's Justin Trudeau. On what is undoubtedly an emotional moment for him. And an emotional moment for all of us to see the end of the blubbering wokee. And what a hypocrite he was, there's always black-faced stuff
Starting point is 01:00:37 that all used to come out. at the moment he was lecturing us all about racism and so on. So farewell to Justin, no flowers need be sent. And also, I just want to say, since you're all there as a bunch of Americans staring down the camera at me, and we had a horrifying moment last week where we discovered the James Bond franchise was now going to be moving to the control of Americans at Amazon. The first thought was, are you going to put one of your lot in charge of playing James Bond, which could have been a national travesty. And I'm delighted to report that.
Starting point is 01:01:10 So you don't want Bezos in control of 007, but you'll have them in control of our country. Well, actually, to his credit, to his credit, they put out a statement saying, James Bond will continue to be male, which is a huge relief to all of us. And secondly, he will be British or from the Commonwealth. In other words, he will not and never will be.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Let's define male. So you still have a transfer. Just as Captain America will never be English, right? James Bond remains. resolutely male, British, and I hope we don't have to see him crying anymore like he did in the last couple of movies. And I also hope we allow him to go back to wantonly seducing women. Because that is what the character used to do, and that is what he should be allowed to do without people like Justin Trudeau getting on their high horse and saying,
Starting point is 01:01:56 will you please make James Bond completely impotent and then make him cry all the time. So on that bombshell, I will leave you all. Thank you all very much. Pierce Morgan Unsensit is proudly independent. The only boss around here is me. If you enjoy our show, we ask only one simple thing. Hit subscribe on YouTube and follow Pierce Morgan Unsensored on Spotify and Apple Podcast. And in return, we will continue our mission to inform, irritate and entertain. And we'll do it all for free.
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