Piers Morgan Uncensored - 'Give Up Your Land or SHUT UP!' Bad Bunny & ICE At Super Bowl | With Bill O'Reilly
Episode Date: February 6, 2026For a while there, it felt like the era of celebrities in politics was over - but now, the celebrity preachers are back, despite not having a great recent track record of changing people’s minds. F...rom Billie Eilish speaking about ICE at the Grammys to fears Bad Bunny will bring his politics to the Super Bowl half time show, are they doing more harm than good? Or should Donald Trump be worried that the culture is, again, mobilising against him? Piers Morgan Uncensored is proudly independent and supported by: Pendragon Cycle (Daily Wire+): Discover The Pendragon Cycle: Rise of The Merlin—a bold retelling of the King Arthur legend where Merlin’s vision sparks a civilization’s rebirth; watch the full trailer now at https://DailyWire.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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No one is illegal and stolen land.
That's so brave.
Celebrities, you are more than welcome to have an opinion,
but you can't be a hypocrite.
If you stand on the stage like Billy Eilish
and you talk about stolen land,
you best be ready to give up your land.
In that case, kindly shut up.
You benefit from proximity to whiteness,
but you don't want to acknowledge all the issues
that your people are created in our country
and for the world right now.
Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Sorry, proximity to white, whoa.
whiteness is now a problem.
There is one big story brewing and that is bad bunny.
Is the malevolent rabbit gonna do what he's told to do and just sing?
Or is he going to cause a ruckus?
For a while, it felt like the era of celebrities in politics was over,
from Hillary Clinton's toe-curling
mannequin challenge to a Harris campaign, which fretted millions on purchasing
celebrity love, the message was loud and clear.
We don't really care what any of you think.
Unfortunately, like zombies descending from the Hollywood Hills,
these celebrity preachers are back.
And whether you agree with them or not,
recent history teaches this, they're not going to change anybody's minds.
That's why Bill Maher, who's certainly no fan of Donald Trump,
used his show last week to tell them to shut up.
In a country where the big issue now is affordability,
outside of, I don't know, Springsteen and a few others,
celebrities don't strike people as relatable or in touch.
And what their activism mostly activates is iraural.
roles. Well, they're not listening, just as people are generally not listening to Bruce Springsteen's
anti-ice protest song, and many people would rather they haven't listened to this anti-ice poem
read by Peter Dinklage. Ice wheels flinched and froze. Now bear riot of candles, dark fury of flowers,
pure howling of hymns. If for us she arose, somewhere in the pitch deep of our grief,
And on the subject of not listening, this week's Tone Deaf Award will surely go to Billy Eilish,
a supremely talented singer, but who has stars at the Grammys clapping like seals for her pretty ludicrous claim,
that there are no illegal immigrants in America because all of the land is stolen.
Now we can't show you the original clip for reasons to do with propriety of the clip,
but this AI rendition has captured the essence of the moment.
No one is legal and stolen leg.
Oh my God.
She's so brave.
That's so brave.
First, I'm joined by the bestselling author
and host of No Spin News, Bill O'Reilly.
Bill, welcome back to Unsensit.
How are you feeling, peers?
Well, I was going to ask you the same thing.
We both fell off at the same time
for different health reasons.
But we're both back, which is the main thing.
The show goes on.
Yeah, but with old guys.
This happens to old guys.
But I tell everybody, look, we're here for a reason, I believe that.
And when, you know, the time is up, the time is up.
So I memorized the blue oyster cult song, Don't Fear the Reaper.
And one more thing about old guys.
Old guys are smarter than other guys.
So we got to get back in the arena.
Well, talking about songs, it's a very timely link, actually.
So we heard the Grammys this week, which became pretty predictably a sort of relentless
platform for pop stars to attack ICE, as it turned out, on this occasion.
You know, it followed Bill Maher saying that celebrities risk harming Democrat chances
at the ballot box.
And he extrapolated to say, you know, we saw with Hillary Clinton and then McCarmellarillo Harris,
they roll out all the big pop stars.
and in fact it had the opposite effect to what they hoped.
Taylor Swift's endorsement, they reckon actually turned people off voting for Kamala Harris, for example, and so on.
And we saw it with Beyonce and JZ and others.
Here you have them all lining up on stage and saying, in some cases, very dumb things.
I mean, Billy Elish talking about the ICE situation and saying,
well, all land in America is illegal, therefore, you're going.
can't have illegal immigrants and so on.
Taking Bill Ma's position, Bill Ma's position, that they should all shut up.
Is this an example of why they should shut up, or do you actually believe they should all be
allowed to say what they like?
I don't care.
What they say?
I mean, it's like somebody in Speaker's Corner.
Do I care what the guy's doing?
No.
But there's a good story here that's untold.
In the pop music world, if you don't tell a line,
lines like movies and TV, a certain line, you're not going to work. You're not going to get
marketing money behind your recordings. So you have to tow that line. And if you don't,
then you have to move to Nashville and become a country singer. That's the way it is in America.
And the second thing is that a lot of these performers, they like to virtue signal and they live
in a bubble. So they only talk to people who agree with them. And they go, oh, yeah, this is terrible.
blah, blah, whatever.
So they make money by saying it, and they feel good about themselves.
So that's why they do it.
But it's so inconsequential to reality in America.
It means nothing.
However, there is one big story brewing, and that is on Sunday, Super Bowl Sunday, with Bad Bunny.
So I'll be a game, and I'll be, you know, I don't know if I'm going to see the mischievous rabbit or not.
But if he starts this nonsense in the halftime show,
all hell is going to break loose.
And the NFL knows that.
And they have already talked to Bad Bunny's management about it.
So it's a little drama.
Is the malevolent rabbit going to do what he's told to do or just sing?
Or is he going to cause a ruckus?
That's an interesting storyline.
It is.
And, of course, underpinning all the world.
this is the wider debate about ice following the killings of two people in close proximity.
What is your overview, Bill, about the whole thing? Because we've seen they've taken 700 ICE
agents out of Minnesota now, clear retreat, I think, by the Trump administration. Trump's own
language has been much more mollifying. He picked the phone up to Tim Walts. And they clearly
recognized lines had been crossed here.
Obviously, Trump wants to fulfill his campaign pledges to get illegal immigrants out of America.
Most Americans applaud what's happened on the southern border.
They applaud deporting illegal immigrants who then commit other crimes.
But the flashpoint appears to be ICE agents, masked up, going from door to door,
just apparently picking on people with brown skin, whatever it may be,
and checking their status and if they're undocumented.
tucking them in prison cells with a potentially deportation to follow.
Is that American, that last bit?
Well, you've got to take it from what exactly is happening,
and people in UK and Europe don't know what's happening,
and they don't understand a story, so they buy into the propaganda.
Number one, I disagree with your word retreat.
So what the Trump administration did was it realized that leadership in Minnesota,
federal leadership, was not what it should be.
and that some ice ages, I don't know how many, I'm not on the ground, were not behaving in a professional way.
They were overreacting.
And as a result of the overreaction, two Americans were killed.
They shouldn't have been killed because the Minneapolis police should have been assisting the federal raids and then keeping the crowds away.
So if in New Orleans you have a surge the same thing, you don't have any of this.
In Memphis, Tennessee, you don't have any of this.
Because the local authorities in those cities assist ice.
They keep the protesters back.
They don't let them come up within an inch of the ice agent's face with a gun on your hip, which is insane.
Now, no American wants people killed.
That's crazy.
who would want that.
But if you look at it in totality,
what's happening is a rebellion
on the part of the state of Minnesota
against the federal government,
just as we saw in the states before the Civil War.
And that rebellion is leading to chaos,
and chaos always leads to destruction.
So that's where we are.
Now, the mass thing is very simple to explain.
These agents have families.
If you get their full-profile phase,
you could find out where they live, and they're believing peers,
there are militants here who would go down and hurt ICE agents and their families.
They would hurt them.
So this is a self-protection, and it's entirely legal to do it.
All right?
So all of this subtlety to explain what's happening is lost under fascist ice agents kicking indoors.
I'm not even going to go into the warrant thing, which, you know, it's so complicated.
But what the Trump administration promised to do and was elected on is to get the illegal migrant situation under control.
And when they are searching for criminal migrants, many times there are other migrants in the country illegally with no criminal record that are associating.
And the agent on the street can't make the determination.
Can't.
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The Don Lemon thing, which has blown massive,
and mainly, it seems to me, in Don Lemon's favour
because it's like his dream, right?
He's now the Martin Luther King of reporters.
What is your take on that, Bill?
As a journalist, you know, I sort of wrestle with this a bit,
and I came down in the end of thinking,
well, I find him a bit annoying.
He's clearly very partisan against Trump.
That's his whole stick.
But there has to be, in my eyes,
a qualitative difference between protesters'
running into a church, a place of worship,
during a service and potentially breaking laws by doing so,
and somebody who identifies as a journalist
following them in to report on what is happening.
Do you draw that distinction?
And therefore, if you do,
is this an overreach to prosecute Lemon and the other journalist?
I wrote a column on Bill O'Reilly.com,
and I hope all of your viewers will go to that website
because it's the fairest website
in the world and everything I say is backed up by facts.
I've been doing this 52 years.
I don't believe that Don Lemon is going to be convicted of anything,
and I would be very doubtful that his case is even getting into court
because there is reasonable doubt.
And Mr. Lemon is entitled to due process.
I'm not going to convict him.
I wasn't there.
I don't know what he did.
But if he colluded with the protesters who interrupted the church service,
in Minneapolis, then he's guilty if he colluded.
So they had a little meeting, and there was Don.
And they said, well, we're going to do this.
And I said, okay, let's go.
Well, he's guilty because he violates Civil Rights Act.
It's a federal crime.
Okay.
But if he just got a tip, if somebody just said, hey, Don,
they're going to be a big hoe down at the whatever,
church it was, you ought to cover it, and he ran in and covered it, then he's not guilty.
Pretty simple case, but there's a couple of good subtleties to it. So the column that I wrote is,
is Don a lemon. Okay. So there's no downside for Don here. There's no downside for him.
None. None. So he gets a massive amount of attention, which he needs on his podcast to make money.
The lawyer he hires Abby Lowell more than $1,000 an hour,
Don's not paying them.
The far-left crews that love Lemon,
they pick up the tab for that, political action committees.
So Lemon comes out of obscurity and into the spotlight
where the president of the United States is talking about him.
And he's skipping all the way to the bank, all right?
So to me, you know, it's a nothing.
story. It has anything to do with anything, but it's interesting to see, and again, Europe, UK,
how America works. If you are an independent journalist, as I am, all right, and we are
fabulously successful without doing these things, okay, you depend on attention to sell advertising.
And that's what Lemon was doing there. Finally, Bill, a polymarket has
current odds that anyone would be jailed over Epstein disclosures by the end of 2026.
They reckon there's a 17% chance that someone gets jailed by the end of this year for Epstein-related
disclosures.
Do you think that's likely?
I mean, what's interesting is that in England, we've seen the downfall of Prince Andrew,
no longer a prince.
Lord Mandelson seemed to be no longer a lord.
he's likely the latter to be heading to a criminal court soon.
He might well be jailed.
I'm not really seeing that happening in terms of accountability in the U.S. over this.
Why do you think that is?
Because people are tired and bored of this story.
They understand that if there was any wide implication for people in power on the Republican side,
the Biden administration would have exposed it.
They were desperately looking to link Trump to Epstein.
They couldn't do it because if they had done it, then Kamala Harris would have won the election of 2020.
So four years, Merrick Gahl and the Attorney General had all these guys pouring over all this stuff.
They didn't find anything.
So now what this is is a media-generated story primarily by CNN.
And MSNBC is not really media anymore.
That's kind of like a giant podcast now.
So, but CNN every day, every way is, oh, oh, oh, because the network is failing, all right?
And nobody watches it.
And you used to work there.
And you know how much money they've lost in the last 20 years?
My theory is once you left, that CNN collapsed.
So they can blame you.
Here's Morgan for the total collapse.
So they are desperately trying.
to gin up some kind of controversy with Epstein and Trump.
And Trump knows it, and that's why he gets so angry about it,
because it's so transparent.
Not being said, if there is a shred of evidence, all right,
that comes forth, I'll report it, but I haven't seen it.
Nothing.
No.
And I think in relation to Trump, I think we all know that if the Biden administration
thought there was anything in those files
that would have nailed Trump
for criminality, we'd have known about it
in those four years of their tenure.
You bet.
And they'd have certainly produced it
to stop in getting re-elected.
Bill O'Reilly, great to have you back.
And great to have you back on your feet.
I'm not quite back on my feet,
but I hope to be within a week or two.
All right. Thanks for having me, peers.
And whether you agree with their cause or not,
are they doing more harm than good,
or should the president be worried that the culture is again mobilizing against him?
Let's hear what my panel has to say about all this.
And more.
Emily Austin, journalist and commentator, Tommy Layron, host of Fearless on Outkick,
Jason Lee, CEO of Hollywood Unlocked, and Keith Edwards, host of the Keith Edwards show.
Well, welcome to all of you.
Emily Austin, you were at the Grammys,
and you went viral for a genuinely laugh-out, loud clip of you and your friend
reacting in real time to what you were hearing on stage.
Just take a look.
Our voices really do matter.
And people matter.
Fuck ice is always.
I'm so edgy.
It's a fuck ice.
Now, full disclosure,
Miss Eilish and I share the same Hollywood hairdresser.
Which has worked out rather better for her than me.
He's a lovely guy.
He's a brilliant hairdresser.
But I have to say, next time I see him,
I will be pointing out that what she said there was obviously ridiculous.
But it's interesting to me, Emily, after a few award shows where celebrities kind of got the, let's leave the politics out of this memo,
they're now back with a vengeance.
ICE has been the catalyst for this.
We didn't hear anything about Iran, for example, on the heroic protesters or anything like that.
It was all ICE, ICE, ICE.
You were there.
What was the mood in the room like?
Well, first and foremost, thank you for having me,
and I'm so happy you look like you're feeling great
and not up and moving around just yet,
but at least your mouth still works.
You know what? My mouth works,
and I do a job that involves sitting here,
staring at a camera, as most of us do.
So thank God for my job.
Oh, always get to see you.
But my mother was the woman sitting next to me in the video,
and it's so funny.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I thought it was your younger sister.
No, it's a compliment to her,
But the party of love and kindness and inclusivity
has been the first group to attack her on her appearance,
on her parenting choices.
Personally speaking, I think she did a phenomenal job.
But the mood in the room was, you know, everyone was elated.
It's basically a free concert for those who were invited.
It's a big party.
People are singing, dancing.
And then every time there's a political rant,
let's just call it, political nonsense.
Everyone kind of forcefully stands besides myself
because I'm not a sheep.
But you could tell that there's just this fatigue.
And contrary to what you just said in the intro,
I don't think Trump is worried.
I don't think anyone's worried
because if one thing completely dismissed
of all of Hollywood's opinion,
it was this past election.
Kamala had every Diddy Party guest,
every single celebrity in the world that endorsed her,
and clearly it didn't work.
She had Megan the Stallion and Taylor Swift,
You name it, they endorsed Kamala, yet Donald Trump won not by a small margin, but by a landslide in this election.
So celebrity opinions don't count.
Now, personally speaking, I love music.
I love theater.
I love the arts.
And coming to this event, I was so happy to just be there and be present.
And I don't take their opinion seriously.
Nobody else does either.
But it's just so annoying that they speak on something that, A, they don't believe in or B, they don't put their money where their mouth is.
but, you know, at least I can reassure you a lot of celebrities
did in fact come up to me.
They were like, we love your bag, we're so proud of you.
And I'm like, why don't you speak up?
And they're like, of course we can't.
We work at the music industry.
Our artists will work with us.
And I told you, do you really believe that the artists feel that way?
And a lot of the music executives are like, actually, no,
they're doing it because their publicist said it's the right thing to do.
Or a very woke friend was chirping in their ear.
And it doesn't make a difference to them.
It's very harmless to them.
Tommy Larian, welcome back to Oncense.
It's been way too long.
I've missed you.
I know you're incredibly busy and successful now,
and we often cross over when we're doing our own stuff.
So it's great to have you back.
I know we've got a slight delay, I think,
with you down the line.
So I'll preface my question carefully.
It's since emerged that Billy Arlish's own massive mansion
in California is built on Native American land.
And the Sinai law firm in L.A.
has reportedly written up a 30-day notice of eviction
and is ready to serve her.
So words can have consequences.
What did you make of this?
Yeah, again, this whole notion that we exist on stolen land,
I mean, either borders are imaginary or this is stolen land.
You can't have it both way, peers.
But it doesn't matter to these celebrities
because there's never any cost to anything that they do on that stage.
There's no social cost because everybody in the room is clapping like sheeps.
They all share a brain.
There's never any real monetary costs.
Yes, sometimes they donate to a cause, but that's a tax write-off.
They don't compromise their security, their private jets, their lifestyle, their mansions, their
properties, their friendships.
They compromise and sacrifice nothing.
They stand on the stage and they deliver these messages because it makes them feel like
they've done something without actually having to do anything at all.
And they all stand in the room and they all clap for one another.
And meanwhile, everyday Americans, everyday global citizens are looking at them like the dumb masses that
they are because we know that they're hypocrites. Listen, celebrities, athletes, public figures,
you are more than welcome to have an opinion. We're all welcome to have an opinion and to share it.
But you can't be a hypocrite. If you stand on the stage like Billy Eilish and hear weirdo brother,
Phineas Ferb, whatever his name is, and you talk about stolen land, you best be ready to give up your land.
And I believe up until this moment, I haven't heard anything from the Ilish camp about seating their land to the Native Americans.
So in that case, kindly shut up.
All right, Jason Lee, they're all a bunch of shameless hypocrites who don't know what they're talking about.
And if they really believe in the stolen land theory, then they should be giving their mansions back.
Well, you know, I'm not going to argue what these people do with their mansions.
But a couple of things that you say that people are tired of what celebrities are talking about.
Donald Trump is a celebrity in case we forgot that.
He's a celebrity that used his celebrity to become president.
And his movement, Make America Great Again, is really about making America racist again.
If you want to talk about stolen land and just ignore what happened to the Native Americans,
ignore what happened to black people in our country, to do that would be siding with the oppressors.
And I will tell you, like, I'm not one to say that celebrities should matter.
But this is the same president that just used Nikki Minaj to come from her home in Calabasas that was on its way to foreclosure,
or her being evicted to come to an event
to propel whatever message he wanted
to get out there in front of the Epstein files.
We have a president right now
who throws Christianity,
who uses every weapon of mass distraction
in order to make the American people in the world
forget the fact that he was hanging on a jet
with Jeffrey Epstein,
sitting over there on the island,
and all the documents that have been released
show that all the pedal sympathizers,
even on this show,
defending Donald Trump,
have a lot that they don't want to be accountable for.
So I'm not going to,
I'm not going to, you know, be distracted by the narrative that bad bunny talking about
out ice is some way more important than the fact that most of us have sat by and watched
a genocide in Gaza and have sided with a pedophile.
Sir, do you own a home?
I'm sorry, there's somebody else waiting to talk.
We can get into questions later because I'm ready for whatever.
No, actually, it's a good question.
It's a good question.
What was the question?
Do you own private property in the United States?
What I own has nothing to do.
It's almost as relevant as you sitting in the Grammys singing along to all the artists
and using a moment to get clout for the world to see you.
I don't know you'll never see you.
I know, Tommy.
It doesn't matter.
I'm sure you own a home.
And I'm sure you did not check if the Native American had previously owned the land.
And you are part of the Billy Island.
Slavery is over and you don't control what I do.
But you know what?
Let's talk about the immigrants look like you.
Wait, but let's talk about the fact that immigrants look too white.
I'm a problem.
I'm Middle Eastern.
Let's talk about Renee Good.
Let's talk about, let's talk about Renee.
Well, you look like a white woman.
You look like a white woman.
And Renee Good was shot in the face.
Alex Prattie was shot.
What is the wrong with looking white?
Listen, just listen, your proximity to whiteness,
your proximity to whiteness is jumping off the screen.
And so you benefit from proximity to whiteness,
but you don't want to acknowledge all the issues that your people are created in our country
and for the world right now.
Sorry, wait a minute.
Sorry, wait a minute.
Wait a minute. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa. Go ahead, Pierce.
Proximity. Sorry, proximity to whiteness is now a problem.
No, I'm not saying it's a problem. Listen, I want to make America great again.
I just don't know when it was great and for what people. I think this is make America races again.
I mean, peers in our country, you'd be considered an immigrant.
Until they started shooting white people in broad daylight, this wasn't as big of an issue as it is right now.
I am. I am. I am considered actually. I'm considered actually.
for the record, an exceptional alien.
That is my immigration status to the United States.
I get a new visa every three years on average,
and my exact, precise, clarify,
the way they describe me on my visa is a exceptional alien.
Now, I could get all upset about that.
I don't think I'm an alien.
I think I'm a human being.
But I quite like the word exceptional, so I let it ride.
But I'm curious that you would attack Emily
for her proximity to white.
In other words, she's not completely white, but she looks kind of white, so therefore,
doesn't fly.
I mean, she looks like a white woman to me.
I'm not attacking her.
I'm addressing her.
I think there's a difference.
But imagine if I said to you, Jason, imagine if I said to you, imagine if I said to you, Jason
Lee, you're kind of black, but it's more a proximity to blackness.
I get that, but I get that from white people all the time.
My mother's Italian.
My father's black.
I get that I'm Dominican.
I really don't care what people think my proximity is to.
And I'm not sensitive.
You know what you call me if I said that?
If anybody wants to trouble.
You would call me a racist if I said that.
He did just call me one.
No, peers,
peers, unlike some people that look like me,
I actually think you're exceptional.
And I love that you can put it out there
and own it and stand in it like I can.
Like everybody, like Tommy can.
Right?
And so, you know, my opinion about hers,
her opinion about Bad Bunny.
We are all here to share our opinions.
And I stand in mind.
I love Bad Bunny.
And I'm just, I'm very confused why you're playing identity politics.
Yeah, so am I.
But let's come to Keith.
He's been waiting patiently.
Bad Bunny is going to be the big figure at the Super Bowl.
He is the halftime show.
He's obviously seized the Grammys and made a big political statement.
He's entitled to do it.
But I think if he pulls that stunt at the halftime show, it's going to be massive repercussions.
Would he be wise to just focus now on the music?
Well, I think, first off, Emily, I have to applaud you. I'm so impressed by your bravery wearing an American flag purse at the Grammys. I salute you. It's Rosa Parks, MLK Jr. and Emily Austin, the civil rights leaders of our time. I can't believe you're able to survive that. Secondly, I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but thank you.
You're welcome. No, I'm very serious. It's a serious thing you put yourself through.
And secondly, I have to say that I don't frankly care what celebrities say.
I think they're actually a reflection of our culture.
And so they're just mirroring back what a majority of Americans think and feel that is ICE is out of control.
What ICE is doing is un-American.
And ICE needs to be either abolished or deeply, deeply, deeply changed.
And so I think those artists too.
Did you feel, Keith?
Keith, did you feel that way when Barack Obama was breaking all deportation records?
Well, that's a different.
Well, do you know why those deportation records are different?
Why is it different when he's doing it?
Well, it's different because the way that they classify deportations is that they actually turn people away at the border, which is what Obama was doing.
No, no, Obama deported.
Obama deported over three million people.
Yes, well, yes, how they count those border, how they count them.
that a deportation counts as when they actually stop someone at the border and tell them to go back.
So that is considered a deportation. So that's where that number comes from.
Now, what has happened with Trump is that fewer people are actually going to the border.
But what Trump is doing is they actually is doing this insane thing we're all seeing with our own eyes that are on film,
which is people are being brought out of their house, many of whom are citizens without any warrant.
and I think that is what most people are upset about.
And by the way, yes, American citizens are being executed in the street.
So if you are for that, then I think that's good, Emily.
I think that's good, Tommy.
I'm not.
I'm glad that there are actually some important, powerful people who are saying that this
needs to stop.
I wish the billionaires.
I wish the CEOs.
I wish the people who, as you said, the music executives were on our side.
but I'm glad at least some people with a little bit of power
are speaking up for those who cannot speak for themselves.
All right, let me come back to Tommy Leran.
Tommy, linked to this,
we've had the spectacle of the resurrection of Don Lemon
as the Martin Luther King of journalism.
I've got to say, the moment I heard Don Lemon had been arrested in Hollywood,
I was like, Donald Trump, what are you doing?
Why are you giving this guy the thing he's dreamed about his entire life?
and the thing he most desperately needs right now in his career,
which is giving him the national stage to play the martyr,
which is exactly what he's done.
And fair play to them, and he's done it.
But we're all in our way, I guess, we're media people, journalists and so on.
I felt uncomfortable seeing him get arrested.
I felt it was an overreach.
I think you've got to draw a line between people who are protesting
and maybe breaking laws and journalists reporting on it.
Whatever you think of a journalist,
and whether you even think they are behaving like proper journalists,
he identifies as a journalist, he was reporting on it for his show and so on.
Did you feel comfortable seeing him arrested?
Do you think that was the right precedent to set?
Well, peers, I got to be real honest with you.
I could not care less.
What happens to Don Lemon if he's arrested, if he's not.
I don't care what he does.
I don't care where he's at.
I shed not one tear for him.
I lose not one wink of sleep for Don Lemon.
And you're exactly right.
This is what he wanted.
He wanted to be a martyr.
he wanted to get his moment and he got it.
But I think what's more important here is the precedent that it's set
because we're seeing these agitators in the streets of Minneapolis, L.A. and elsewhere,
out there impeding law enforcement and actually terrorizing communities.
In Minneapolis, they have checkpoints where they're checking people's identification.
Isn't that ironic?
So they can go into certain parts of the city and they're not allowing those who are federal agents
or look like federal agents to enter certain parts of Minneapolis.
So it's all ludicrous and ridiculous.
And a precedent needs to be set that you're not going to be able to do.
do this. You don't own America. You have no authority. You can't go impede law enforcement. You can't go
and protest violently. You can't get in the middle of an arrest or a detention. That's not legal.
If you want to stand on the side of the road with your dumbass sign and your nose ring and your
B-O and talk about how you hate ICE, you are more than willing and capable and able to do that.
That's your constitutional right. But you're not able to impede law enforcement. And you can't go
Busting into a church service, by the way,
and disrupting a church service,
making people fear for their life,
that has gone too far.
So the precedent needed to be set.
I don't care what happens, Don Lemon.
Do I really think he's going to pay a consequence?
No, but I think that there needs to be a precedent set
for these individuals who want to go out there
and actually terrorized communities
that you're not going to get away with it under this DOJ.
Why should a precedent be set for...
Hang on one second.
Hang on one second, Keith.
And Tommy, should bad bunny...
be allowed to perform in the halftime show,
given how political he made his performance at the Grammys.
Because the halftime show at the Super Bowl is supposed to be
a great unifying moment for the United States.
Over 100 million people watching, all the families watching,
from blue states, from red states.
It's kind of the one thing of the year
where America, it seems to me, is an outsider
when I've been there, comes together
and is genuinely unified, watching the game
watching the entertainment.
If in advance, the halftime act
has come out and been so overtly political,
whether you agree with him or not,
should he be allowed to be the halftime show?
Well, allowed to be, listen,
if the NFL made their choice
and that's their business decision,
then that's their business decision.
I'm not one to tell, you know,
private companies or what they can and cannot do.
If that's who they want, that's who they want.
I don't think it's a good choice.
I don't think someone singing in front of an American audience
or rapping in front of American
audience that, you know, doesn't speak Spanish. In Spanish, I don't think that's a great idea,
but the NFL decided that they care more about Hispanic and Latino viewers, and that was their
business decision. I don't think it's a great one, and we'll find out if it is or not, but the
NFL made this choice a long time ago with Colin Kaepernick and the rest of it. They decided
they want to go woke, that they want to prioritize activism over viewers and over the American
people coming together for sport. So that's what they decided they wanted to do. Will it pan out?
I'm not so sure it will, but I would also add this in terms of being controversial.
Bad Bunny is a mega star. I'm not going to dispute that. He's got, you know, hundreds of millions of
listeners and fans, and I get that they want to try to attract a Latino audience to the Super Bowl.
That's fine. That's their business decision. But this whole thing about him being controversial,
there are other celebrities and stars that have huge followings that are also controversial,
but the NFL would never go there. For example, Morgan Wallen, huge star, right? But the NFL would
never choose Morgan Wallen as their halftime performer because he said the N-word a few years ago.
And that would have been a big outcry. So it's never applied evenly. If the NFL wants to do it,
go for it. I won't be watching. But I do think the hypocrisy is pretty thick.
Right. Jason Lee, I want to turn to the Melania documentary, which has been widely savaged by critics
in, let's be honest, liberal skewed mainstream media, but has proven to be a massive box
office hit, the most successful launch of any documentary theatrically in 10 years, giving Melania
the last laugh.
You know, again, it's a very polarising thing.
I watched it and enjoyed it.
You know, I know Melania quite well.
I've known her a long time.
I thought it was an interesting behind the scenes look at what it's like to be first lady
over a 20-day period, interesting watching the juggling of private and public life and
so on.
And some of the reviews were just plain, vicious, savage, nasty because people hate Trump, hate our husband.
Isn't this part of the problem that we have with the media where almost all the mainstream media reviews were savage?
And yet a lot of people in Middle America when I watched it, enjoyed it.
Yeah, I mean, I didn't watch it.
I mean, shout out to Melania.
She's the most famous immigrant in our country right now.
I haven't watched any of her works since she did the tastefully nude.
or soft porn, whatever that thing was that she did before she became First Lady.
The fact that we have an immigrant in the White House married to the president that's attacking
immigrants who happen to look like me is hysterical.
I do want to, I didn't interrupt you.
I'm sorry, let me go back to something you said about Don Lemon because he's a friend and
I was with.
Well, hang on, hang on, Jason, to one point, as Emily said.
Okay, okay, but I do want to speak on that too.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
Whereas Donald or Melania Trump attacked immigrants.
From what I've seen, they've attacked illegal immigrants.
And Melania made the point, she did everything legally.
She did it the right way.
And like millions of Americans who came in legally into the country
and did everything the right way,
she's entitled to feel pretty pissed
when people just floating over an open border.
We can't erase history.
We've seen legal immigrants in our country separated from their family.
We've seen people here legally sent to countries that they haven't lived in.
So we're not going to act like that didn't happen.
Just like we're not going to erase slavery, just like we're not going to erase what happened to the Native Americans.
History does still matter in this country, even if you take it out of the school system.
Now, I know that the fragile, the fragility of the people that you have booked here with me today keep him and hon and moaning because they can't handle the truth.
Maybe it's not in their script.
And maybe it's not in the Bible that they continue to use.
as a prop up as a way to defend their behavior.
But let's be very clear.
Listen, white girl, I'm talking to you now.
You can just calm down and let me finish myself.
She's not right.
And you can keep...
She's not white.
She has a proximity to whiteness.
And you keep stepping on the voices of people have cut...
Listen, listen, peers, I say what she is.
She can say what she is.
She can cry in the car about it.
Do another video that goes viral.
At the end of the day, what we're talking about in this country is a lack of compassion.
When we talk about, you know, the Pledge of Allegiance, Justice for all,
that means all people.
Bad Bunny is an American.
He had to remind you that Puerto Rico is a part of the United States,
even though you want to lump them in with all the illegals that climbed the gate down in Mexico.
And let's be very clear, immigrants look like all of us, like all of us.
And so why are we only focused on black and brown?
I didn't see Bad Bunny say I'm performing at the halftime show because I want a bunch of Mexicans to pull up.
And I didn't hear the NFL say that.
I've seen Jay-Z integrate culture, diverse culture, into the Super Bowl.
We saw Jennifer Lopez and Shakira make a very political...
statement about when they had dancers in cages
at that time during their performance.
Let me bring in the others.
Let me bring in Emily. Emily, your response.
I'm still waiting for the punchline
because you started with something
and then you went to something else.
I am, according to you, a white girl,
I love Bad Bunny, so I'm not really sure
what your point is. You keep calling
people white as if it's a bad thing. You keep saying
America is a place
for only white people, yet you
are here. With all due respect, if you're on this show,
you must be slightly successful.
You said you are part
black. I'm not sure what your background is because I judge by merit. I'm not part of the DEI
clan that judge people by either race or ethnicity. I care about two things. If you are legal in this
country, then you are a citizen. I don't care from where you come from as long as you do it the right way.
Both my parents came to Ellis Island and did things the right way. So I don't think it's fair
when people just illegally cross the border cutting the line and then reap the benefits of American
citizens. And number two, I don't care what your skin color is or your ethnicity or your religion.
good, kind person and they're not indulging in these identity politics and trying to play the victim.
And you, sir, are a hypocrite.
Identity politics, you literally are an identity conflict sitting right here on the screen.
Listen, I know more of who I am than you appear to know who you are.
I haven't seen your parents paperwork.
I haven't seen your parents' paperwork.
How do I know that your parents are leaving?
Everything that you said on this show has been negative.
Don't talk over each other.
All right, I want to bring you out.
Okay, time out, time out. Time out.
We're running out time out. We're running out of time.
I want to win with two things. One for Keith and one for Tommy.
Keith, Christopher Nolan has cast Helen of Troy in The Odyssey with a black actress,
LePita and Yongo.
Elon Musk says Chris Nolan's lost his integrity.
This is the on-running thing, right?
Which is, you know, if you made a movie, a drama, a drama.
dramatized movie about Nelson Mandela or Martin Luther King and cast a white actor, all
would break loose. If you had a black James Bond, right, people would say, yeah, that's fine,
by contrast. Helen O'Troy, again, if it's a black actress playing Helena Troy, is that right?
Is it the right way to do things, or is it deliberately antagonistic?
I don't know if it's antagonistic. I think art's supposed to be subversive, right? And so I think
there's some subversion happening there.
I think that would be interesting if you want to do a Broadway show about a white
MLK Jr. I don't know how you do that, but I think it could be interesting.
It certainly would get a lot of tension, but I would recommend it.
You have a white actor doing the I Had a Dream speech.
Again, art's supposed to be subversive.
I don't think there should be any rules around this sort of stuff.
So I think if someone wants to have a black actors, you've even lost Jason Lee on that one.
That's how far a while that way.
Well, I think art should be a white actor.
Is there going to be a market for a white MLK Jr? I don't think so. But if someone wants to do that, then they should go ahead and give it a shot. I wouldn't recommend it. But I think art's supposed to be subversive. And so I think one of the reasons why that doesn't happen is because there's probably no one that's wanting to watch something like that. Whereas I do think there is a subversion that happens. Like Hamlet is a very great example of that where they had black actors play white historic people because there is.
There was, yeah, and so I think there, I do think there's something interesting about it.
I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
I personally think that like with James Bond.
James Blonde, like if Ian Fleming has written a series of bestselling books, iconic books,
about specifically a white agent, you know, a guy from MI6, if it's written that way,
I do think you should just be true to the origin of the original books, personally.
But I do take your point about Hamlet.
Tommy, I've got a more difficult question for you.
How do you feel about Kim Kardashian dating Sir Lewis Hamilton?
Hey, listen, I think Kim Kardashian, she crushes it.
I know there are a lot of people that have issues with the Kardashians,
but they are the best business people, certainly of my generation and of my time.
So you know what?
She's gone through pretty much everybody.
She had to be married to Kanye West for I don't know how long, right?
She's got to deal with that day in and day out.
So if this is what makes her happy, I say go for it.
I love the family.
I think they're kick-ass business women.
So I say, Kim, it's your time.
Go for it.
You didn't pass the bar, but you're on to the next.
And I say, go for it.
You know the problem, Tommy?
I'm here in the UK right now.
We're looking at a track record of high-profile British men
who end up with.
American women, right?
Let's think about King Edward
the 8th and Wallace Simpson.
Let's think about Prince
Harry and Megham Markle.
Let's think about Brooklyn Beckham
and Nicole Peltz.
So there's not a great record here.
There is a firm lesson,
surely, that this doesn't
work. That's my
concern. Now, I happen to love
you and love Emily, but
the track record of
you American women pairing up with high-profile British guys, it's horrendous.
Well, I reassure you I probably won't end up with a high-class British-Rex.
Well, listen, Piers, I think that this is our revenge.
It may well be the revenge, but we'll see how it plays out.
Actually, Lewis Hamilton's a great guy.
Two things about him, which I really like.
He's got the hardest handshake of any human being who I've ever shaken hands with,
which is apparently down to a lot of the racing drivers do
because of the grip on the steering wheel for the Grand Prix.
And secondly, he's a massive Arsenal fan like me,
which may leave all four of you cold.
But Arsenal, our football team,
having gone through 22 joyless years,
are now favourites to win all four major football competitions
in European football,
and it couldn't be more thrilling.
And if we do,
Sir Lewis and I will be the happiest men in the world.
So Kim could be in for a very, very fun time come May.
Got to leave it there.
Love you to have you on.
Thank you all very much and speak soon.
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