Piers Morgan Uncensored - ‘I’m Afraid Mom’s Going To Die’ Kevin Federline & Sons Fear For Britney Spears’ LIFE

Episode Date: October 23, 2025

A quarter of a century on from her first global hit, Britney Spears remains one of the most talked-about celebrities in the world and one of the biggest stars of her generation. And now her ex-husband and father of her two sons Kevin Federline has brought out a controversial new memoir, ‘You Thought You Knew.’ ‘K-Fed’ says he’s releasing the book because it’s time to set the record straight after years of ‘the media, blogs, strangers and exes’ telling his story for him. But some critics have a different take, with one reviewer calling it a “vapid memoir” which “is just another means to kick Britney while she’s down.” Kevin joins Piers Morgan to reveal ‘his truth’ - before Piers welcomes cultural commentators DJ Vlad, Xaviaer DuRousseau and Esther Krakue plus ‘Free Britney’ advocate Tyler Wells to give their reaction to the interview. Piers Morgan Uncensored is proudly independent and supported by: Birch Gold: Visit https://birchgold.com/piers to get your free info kit on gold. Oxford Natural: To watch their full stories, scan the QR code on your screen or visit https://oxfordnatural.com/piers/ to get 70% off your first order when you use code PIERS. Tax Network USA: Call 1-800-958-1000 or visit https://TNUSA.com/PIERS to speak with a strategist for FREE today Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm trying to show people that help is needed now because time is running out. I don't want my kids waking up having to deal with the unimaginable. But ultimately, he went to the courts and he got exactly what he deserved. The proof speaks for itself with the kids actually wanting to be with him and are actually troubled when they're around their mom. If there is one thing that you can unite every nation, it is the fact that Kevin Federline has always been a great. be bastard. If this were actually about him caring about Britney Spears, then why is he writing in his book about her alleged lesbian hookup? If Britney wanted to get some nookie, Britney deserved to get some nooky. I think he is basically one of the leeches that he's accusing have taken advantage

of her in her life. Well, you're writing a book about her. You're revealing the fact that she apparently had a lesbian affair. You are one of those people that are exploiting her. He's going to gain nothing from this book. A quarter of a century on from her first global hit, Britney Spears remains one of the most talked about celebrities in the world and one of the biggest stars of her generation. It's into that maelstrom that her ex-husband Kevin Fedeline steps with his controversial new memoir,

you thought you knew. K-Fed, as he was known, says he's releasing the book because it's time to set the record straight after years of the media, blogs, strangers and exes telling his story for him, as he puts it. Some critics have a different take.

One reviewer called it a vapid memoir, which is just another means to kick Britney while she's down. We'll debate that in true uncensored style shortly. We'll begin by hearing from the man himself. Kevin Fedeline joins me now. Kevin, welcome to Uncensored. Thank you so much for having me.

Well, let's try and cut through all the crap around the release of the book and all the stuff. Good, bad, nothing's been said about it. Tell me, in your own words, why you wrote the book. Well, I feel like, you know, I've stayed silent for 20 years trying to do right as a father and raise my children. outside of the spotlight or Hollywood, whatever you want to call it, while so many others have told my story.

I feel like my story's been told through a different lens, and now finally I'm ready to tell my truth. For those who don't know the background to this, you dated Brittany for three months. You then got married in July 2004. You gave, we had two sons between you in September 2005, and then September the following year. And you had pretty much full custody of those boys going forward

when the troubles set in. They're now at adult age. Was that part of your calculation, too, to wait until they were adults themselves? Absolutely. I wanted to make sure that my kids had a chance to grow and really, you know, give them a chance at a normal life, right? as much as I possibly could, which obviously it was very difficult.

And through the book, you'll find, you know, all of the stories that led us up to this point. You know, yeah, I mean, I was just a struggling father trying to give my kids a normal life. It's been, I think, fair to say that you've been viewed as the bad guy in this for a long time in terms of relationship with Brittany. I want to play a clip. This is from The View the day after your divorce was announced. No, no, I don't know you. I've never met Brittany,

but I've got to say, I found that a pretty ugly spectacle. I don't think you'd see anything like that airing on American television now without them all getting fired. The kind of gleeful response to the breakdown of a relationship and a divorce,

whatever the background, whatever was circulating in the media, that seemed to me actually pretty cruel. If you're you watching that, That's a pretty cruel thing to watch. What do you feel watching it back just now? It hurts. I'm not going to lie to you.

It hurts. And, you know, I honestly think that that even had to have hurt her, right? Because you're talking about a family being split, and that's not easy in itself. And to have that celebrated at a time where clearly she's spiralling, I fell into depression. and people were celebrating that. I mean, it's disgusting. What is your view of the hosts of the view for what they did that day?

Well, I don't watch them, I'll tell you that. I mean, the cast has changed significantly since then, but it's pretty shocking watching it, I've to say, I've done the view a few times, but it's pretty shocking to watch that actually go out. This was 20 years ago. Right, right. I mean, you know, it's, and that's it.

It's like my life being told through a different lens has led to that, you know, to all of that. And people feel like, and I think that by me staying silent, it also did the same thing, right? I think that people felt, you know, they had the right to go and say whatever they want because they knew that I wasn't going to come out and speak up for myself. I mean, it's interesting to see the ringleader there was Rosie O'Donnell, who's now the lead attack dog against Donald Trump, has even left the country. So she can attack him, I think, from Ireland, where she now leads. But, you know, this is somebody who purports herself to be the kind, empathetic one,

and Trump's the monster that has to be trashed all the time. When I watch her behavior that day towards you, again, I don't know you, but whatever led up to that, the way she did that was like, like a circus ringleader, circus master, basically unleashing the dogs on you through a television. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's horrible, right?

It feels horrible being judged by somebody that doesn't even know me. But I mean, really, if you wanna judge me, look at what I've done as a father. Judge me off of my children. None of my children have been in trouble with the law. None of my children have been addicted to drugs. of my children, every single one of them, and I have six, are really good human beings with

the good head on their shoulders and they're all falling into their own. They know who they are and they know their identity. And that, you know, if you want to judge me, judge me on that. Well, I've seen the reaction about you as a father and it's generally positive. People, whether they love you or hate you, they all concede, you've been a good father. And certainly taking custody of your two boys when Brittany was clearly unable to, you to be a proper parent, that's very laudable, right? I give you credit for that.

I guess the flip side of all this is that you know that from 2008 to 2021, Brittany was put under a conservative ship, a legal arrangement, allowed her father to manage her financial affairs. And the reason for that was that she was clearly, and we see Ms. Tuba's day. You know, I don't know her,

but I see the video she puts out, I see some of the stuff that circulates around Britney. This is a mentally unstable woman. She was then, she was during, she is now. That is why she didn't have the custody of your kids. You know this better than anybody. And you've written a book which is, you know, you're entitled to write a book.

Let me just say that. You're entitled to have your say. But knowing her mental state, knowing how fragile she clearly is, you know, I see these videos she puts out of herself dancing. And honestly, they're tragic. They're tragic things to work. watch. It is a woman who was the biggest pop star on the planet who is clearly continuing to battle

a lot of mental health issues. And it's sad to watch. And we all feel that, I'm sure, when we see these videos. But you've written a book, you know, you blame her for being a narcissist for her own behaviour. You say that she has nobody there that truly cares for. I'm sure that's right. You say that, you know, you talk about her mental issues. You talk about her being taken to Cedar Sinai Medical Center in L.A. am placed under psychiatric hold, the toughest night of your life you talk about, you talk about the impact on your kids. You do all this stuff. And I'm just thinking, as I'm reading all this, because it's graphically told, how does this help Britney Spears? How does this not actually have an even more damaging effect on an already damaged woman to have the

intimate details of the breakdown of your relationship, the breakdown of her mental health, laid bare now in a book. And you're going on a big media tour talking about all this. Now, she has said she's had enough writing. She put a comment out on her Instagram. The constant gas signing from my ex-husband is extremely hurtful and exhausting. She says she's felt demoralized

about the fracture relationship with your boys. I've always pleaded and screamed to have a life with my boys. She said she's only seen one of her sons for 45 minutes in the past five years. So quite a cry from the heart there. And I guess my question for you, Kevin, is you've been a good father. You've brought these kids up well.

They've obviously relied on that. They couldn't rely on their mother. But you know how damage Brittany is. Why would you deliberately seek to pour fuel on the flames of her mental illness in the way that you have with this book? Gold is up by more than 40% in value since the beginning of this year. And today's sponsor, Birch Gold. Veterans Day with a tantalizing offer, buy gold, get free silver.

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So once we've done everything, this is like my last final straw of trying to plead for help and support for my sons to, you know, get her to a place where it's better. And I understand that this hurts and the truth hurts and all of that. And that is not what I want. I'm not trying to hurt anybody. I'm trying to put a perspective on it and show people that help is needed now because time is running out. And when you say time is running out, what do you mean? It's exactly what it sounds like. I don't want my kids waking up having to deal with the unimaginable.

Their mother might die. Yes. There's only two ways that this ends. Two ways that this ends right now. We've seen it a million times with so many different people. And so this is a cry for help. Kevin, just to be clear, what are the two ways? Either you get help or you don't.

Do you talk to Brittany at all? I haven't spoken to her in years. How many years? I mean, at least five, six. So when she says in this Instagram statement that she's only seen one of your sons for 45 minutes in the past five years, is that accurate?

No, that's not. She's seen one of my sons one day this year and he decided not to go back over there because of what he saw. The other one, Jaden, who's my younger son, is 19 now. He's been over there quite a few times over the past year and he stopped seeing her in the last few months because of the situation. And they're terrified and they're worried about their mom and they don't know how to help

because of what all of this has cost. Do you think the blaze of publicity around your book though is going to help or could it be the trigger for the disastrous option that you've articulated? I mean, I'm hoping that it helps. This is a last cry. There was this famous free-Britney movement. A lot of people felt that she was under a damaging control from her father. And in 2021, like I said, an L.A. judge ruled it was no longer required after fan pressure.

You say in the book that this free Brittany movement, which was a push by fans and supporters to have the conservatorship terminated, may have started from a good place. but it vilified people around Spears so intensely that now professionals with the ability to help is your ex-wife may be too afraid to step in. Just explain that. And that's exactly what I'm talking about, of how this situation that's been created to where they,

nobody knows how to navigate this situation. I don't know that there's ever been any situation like this. Lawyers, judges, Anybody. They're afraid to touch it. I mean, it's such a hard thing, right? And that is another purpose of why I'm going about it this way, because there is no other way. And that has been created from that movement.

Do you talk to Brittany's father at all? I speak to, yes, I've spoken to all of her family members. And do they share your concern about where things have reached? Anybody that cares and truly cares about Brittany is worried about her right now, yes. Do you still love her, Kevin? I mean, yes, not in love with her, but I've always had love for her. She's the mother and my children. I don't want to see anything bad happen to her.

Obviously, I want her to be able to share the type of relationship that I have with our kids. You know, I mean, even Sharr. I share a relationship with Shar and she shares that relationship with our kids. I want that for Brittany. This isn't about bringing her down. This is about telling the truth and trying to build her back up. And you said that both your sons have stopped seeing her now because of what they witnessed when they saw her.

What kind of thing did they see that has really freaked them out? I mean, look, I don't want to. get into the details of, you know, her privacy. Obviously, I've said so much in my book that, you know, adding to that is not going to help. Yeah, but to be honest with you, that's where, okay, come on, Kevin, it's like you've written a whole book invading her privacy. So that ship has sailed. It's just a question of scale. I do think it's pertinent to her current situation, of why your sons don't want to be around her. And I think it's not unreasonable

that you've explained that to me without saying the kind of thing you're talking about. Right, but that's not my story to tell. That's my son's story to tell if they decide to. I mean, the things that they've seen are shocking, right? So shocking that one of my sons came to me and called me and was like, I don't know what to do. I'm afraid mom is going to die.

Does that help? And is this to do with substance abuse or what are we talking about? Absolutely. Absolutely. You talk in the book about her doing cocaine while she was still nursing your boys when they were very young. Is it that kind of substance we're talking about? I mean, it's it is that, all of it. So much more.

A variety of different drugs. Yes. It's a desperately sad situation. Again, critics of you, Kevin, have said that you've just done this for money. So let me just deal with that. How much are you being paid for this book? Look, if this was about money, I would have cashed in years ago when I was being offered seven figures to sit down with people like yourself and tell my story.

You know, I would have cashed in when the story was at its height. If this was about money, I would have taken Brittany to court and demanded. $100,000 a month in child support, especially when I knew she was making $50 million a year or whatever. This is not about money. And the one thing that I've learned through all of this is the most important thing to me is my family, the love I have for my kids, my wife now,

and everybody that's involved in this situation. Because money cannot touch that. Material things have no meaning to me anymore. in my life. When you got divorced, the court awarded you $20,000 a month in child support and alimony of another $20,000 a month for half the duration of your marriage. And you make the point in the book, people hear figures like that. They think you're financially set. Just maintaining a home and lifestyle that match what the boys were used to with their mother, easily ran to that amount a month, rent, security, full-time nanny, transportation, all the other day-to-day needs of raising

two kids in L.A., as well as my two kids, added up fast. That money was gone almost as soon as it came in. Do you receive any money from Brittany now? No, I haven't received any money from Brittany for a year at least. For how long, sorry? For a year at least. So it stopped a year ago. Does she have much money now, do you think, or not? Today's show is sponsored by Oxford Natural, makers of the optimum day and optimum night all-natural supplements. Thousands of Brits and Americans are already taking them with incredible results. Optimum day boosts your energy and supports weight loss throughout the day. Optimum night helps you relax and get deep, refreshing sleep.

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touring or new material or whatever. but I guess she still gets paid a lot for records she's made in the past. I mean, you would think so, but like I said, I don't know. I mean, that could be a dire situation as well. What do you think, Kevin, is really at the heart of this? Was Brittany always prone to mental health issues, fueled them by drug abuse? Or was she basically corrupted by fame and fortune? I mean, you see this slippery path a lot with people, especially when they're young and they become big stars.

They turn to drugs. They turn to alcohol. They turn to all sorts of stuff. And it can end up killing them. It can. I always think fame is one of the most lethal drugs of all. But do you think is that that was a catalyst or were there demons there long before she became famous? I don't know, you know.

I think, honestly, that it could be a little bit of both. And I agree with you 100%. I even talk about it in my book. I think that fame is the most powerful drug in the world. And it's a very dangerous place to be. I mean, I've lived through some of that myself. And, you know, it's really, really tough. But I couldn't honestly tell you for sure

because when we were first together, you know, things were so great, you know. And I talk about a lot of this in my book, about how incredible it was. until it wasn't. And I mean, it's just, it's really hard to say if things were there before, right? I think that that's a big possibility,

but I also think that the situation that she's in with how famous that she was at such a young age, I mean, it definitely played a part. I think everything has played a part in this. She also said on Instagram at the weekend, that she may have a lot more to reveal. She said, trust me, there's a lot I didn't share in my book and still things at this very moment I've kept hidden because it's incredibly painful and sad. I do feel the logic

and mindfulness in my body as one was 100% murdered and destroyed. I couldn't dance or move for five months. I do feel like my wings were taken away and brain damage happened to me a long time ago, 100%. I have, of course, moved on from that troubling time in my life and I'm blessed to be alive. What did you make of that when you saw it? I mean, look, I feel that everybody has the right to tell their truth, right? But I would just make sure that it's the truth. That's what I would say. Do you think she should be back in a conservative ship?

Do you think she needs to be back in a conservative ship? Do you think the Free Brittany campaign ended up having the complete opposite effect? I do think that the campaign had the opposite effect. But I also think that if you really look at it, like, they want her at her best, right? And I think that's something that all of us can agree on. Like, we all want her at her best, you know. And I just hope that somehow, some way it gets there. I don't have the answers.

I don't know if a conservatorship is the right thing. I don't know what the answers are. I don't. I mean, that's another reason why I've gone so public with this. You know, we're searching for answers and we're searching for support. My sons, they, you know, I mean, that's really at the end of the day of what this whole thing is. I've done everything for my kids. I've done everything for my family.

And this is a part of that. Like, what type of father am I to not try and reach out and help? And I understand that a lot of people think that this is only going to hurt. There is no other way. You have to trust me in that. Because we've tried everything. We tried to do it privately. We've tried to help her in every which way we possibly can.

And everybody's been shut out. So what do you do? Have your boys read the book? My boys know everything that's in this book, yes. And they support you with all of it? 100%. If Brittany happens to see this interview, Kevin, what would your message to her be?

My message to Brittany. is know that you are loved. There are so many people around that care about you. And please, please, try to find your way back to the people that actually love you. Kevin Federline, I appreciate you coming on a census.

Thank you very much. Thank you so much, Pierce. Well, fascinating interview. I'm joined now by DJ Vlad, the cultural commentator by J. DeRousseau, the commentator with Prager You, and Esther Krakku, consensive contributor and Tyler Wells, a free Brittany advocate.

Let me start with you, Tyler Wells, there, because Kevin Fedel, I'm making it very clear that he thinks the free Britney campaign, albeit well-intentioned, actually ended up having a very damaging effect on Brittany. What's your response to that? I think we can argue that the same can be said about the conservatorship. Excuse me. It was intended to help her out maybe in the beginning, but we all saw what it turned out to be, and Brittany has spoken out many times. about how it turned into something to suppress her and silence her for many years.

She wasn't allowed to use her voice for 15 years. And yeah, sorry, I'm taking it back by Kevin's interview. In what way? He just said a lot of things that contradicted himself. He has spoken out many times over the years. He's spoken with DJ Vlad many times. He sat and, and, you know, I feel like every time we hear about him in the media, it is about Brittany.

He's spoken out in 2021 with Daphne Barack. The boys spoke out in that interview. They talked about what they thought about their mother. Wow. Esther, let me come to you. What did you think of the interview with Kevin Petalach? I think I agreed with only one thing that he said, which was that the intention of the conservatorship,

while it was initially good, I do think that there were problems. I do agree with him there. I find it completely ironic that he thinks the only way to save her is to flog a book, which he's undoubtedly going to get paid at the very least tens of thousands of dollars for.

Now, if he said all the proceeds from the book, including the advance, would have gone to mental health charities. That's different. And he obviously knows Brittany better than I do. And he thinks, if he thinks that the only way to get through to her at this point in her life is to go somehow public

with the kind of, story of their lives together, fine. I still think it's tacky. I think it's always tacky when a parent publishes a book on another parent and the parent of their children, but, you know, that's neither here nor there. But I think in terms of the conservatorship, it was kind of threw the baby out with the bathwater, ending it so abruptly. Now, we don't know all the kind of detail of the judge who imposed this conservatorship on

Britney Spears. We don't know the information that they had, but clearly it was significant enough for them to impose a permanent one on her. so one indefinitely. I do think there are serious problems with the fact that her father was being paid $16,000 a month to be her conservator. I do think the fact that he got kickbacks from her tours in her residencies in Las Vegas is a horrible thing. You should absolutely not be paid for managing someone's estate if you're doing it in good faith

with the exception of, let's say, expenses. However, I do think there should be some sort of fiduciary oversight because she has worked so hard. And I think it'll be a shame if, due to her mental health, she loses it all. What if tomorrow she becomes a Scientologist and decides to pay all her money to the Church of Scientology? We thank God that her last marriage, she had the good sense to sign a pre-up. But she's worth over $60 million, allegedly. What if, you know, she gets involved with someone that takes advantage of her in that way? And I think, you know, the whole free, Brittany, freedom without competence is not freedom.

It's just chaos. Well, I think, yeah. And so there has to be a middle ground here. Yeah, I mean, DJ Vlad, you know, The problem with the free Brittany thing is that she doesn't seem very free to me. She seems extremely troubled, extremely damaged. And to hear Kevin Federline explain how both of their sons have stopped seeing her because they're so shocked by what happens when they go and see her,

that should be a wake-up call for everybody that the logical way this ends is either going to be she gets help or we're going to wake up to a tragedy with Britney Spears. And I think he was genuine that. I don't know Kevin Federline. he's just scamming me with all of this stuff, but you know him. You've interviewed him a few times. What did you make of the interview? The tax extension deadline has passed, but for millions of Americans, trouble is just beginning.

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Let Tax Network USA help you before the IRS makes the next move. Well, I've interviewed him once. All right. I think he was very transparent. Yeah, he was very transparent. I think that he was put in a position where he had no other choice but to get a divorce

and ultimately the court sided with him in terms of giving him 100% custody. I think the problem is that in society, women do this to men 99% of the time. They marry a rich person, they have a couple kids, they get divorced, they get a lot of alimony,

a lot of child support, and so forth, and everyone applauds them and so forth. But when a man does it with a rich woman, he's the villain, and this is what I think has been happening with Kevin Federline for years and years. But ultimately, he went to the courts

and he got exactly what he deserved. And the proof speaks for itself with the kids actually wanting to be with him and are actually troubled when they're around their mom. Right. I mean, Havier, that seems to me to be the crux of this, you know,

is that he's been a very good father to those boys. If he hadn't been a good father to those boys, I don't think any of us think that they would have had the comfortable existence if Brittany had full control of them because she doesn't seem in control of herself. You know, I'll give it to Kevin.

It seems like that he is a decent father, but nobody is buying his gas siding just like nobody is buying his book. If there is one thing that you can unite every nation, it is the fact that Kevin Federline has always been a greedy bastard. He has just spent the last two decades exploiting every mistake that Britney Spears made

so that he could maximize his millions of dollars in child support. Because if this were actually about him caring about Britney Spears, then why is he writing in his book about her alleged lesbian hookup? That information is irrelevant. If Britney wanted to get some nooky, Britney deserved to get some nooky. What does that have to do with her mental health today? And the real problem is there is a huge epidemic happening where the most prolific women in Hollywood

are being disempowered by these conservatorships from child support, spouse of support, and having their platforms hijacked. And Kevin Federline, you're ultimately going to hail just like your book sales. You know, it's interesting. I mean, Tyler, you know, go to hell. It's very similar to what we saw with the scene from the view when they celebrated so gleefully the divorce. He's been this hate figure for 20 years. And yet underneath it, he's brought up these two boys. And I do, as a father of three boys myself, I think about that and what it takes.

And I give him credit for that, right? Now, like I say, he might have been putting the wool over my eyes. But I thought he came over authentically when he talked about wanting Britain. to survive what he thinks clearly and his sons clearly think is a very dangerous time in her life, where whatever they're seeing when they go and see her and they've now stopped was so shocking, they don't even want to see it again.

You know, if I was, if they weren't famous and that was just somebody I knew, I'd be incredibly concerned about what that means. So, you know, he could be a lot of things at the same time. He might be a bit greedy, you might have been someone who's tried to exploit his relationship with Brittany. I'm sure all that is true. I'm sure he's taken money to talk about it before.

He's making money from this book. That doesn't automatically mean he doesn't care what happens to the mother of his sons. I agree with that. And also something to point out is that he leaked videos that the boys took of Britney a couple years back intended to harm her. And it actually backfired on him. What people saw was a regular mother disciplining her children. But he took personal home footage of Britney and released it on his Instagram,

trying to show her in a bad light that ultimately backfired on him. So he hasn't always painted himself in the best light either. No, I think that's right. But Esther, the one thing I did think he was right about and I think everyone could agree. Fame is a very insidious and damaging drug.

And particularly when you're 16, as she was, when her first big hits were coming out, to be a 16-year-old kid and be propelled into pop superstardom, I've seen it with Pop. I used to be a, you know, I used to write a showbiz column for a big newspaper in the UK and I used to interview a lot of pop stars. And I saw them go up and I saw them crash down and I saw some appalling stuff. We saw one of one direction. You know, Liam Payne tragically loses life recently.

And that looked to me like somebody who was a victim of too much fame and with all the excess that it brings. And some people say, well, don't excuse them, it's their choice. It is, but they're very young. Again, I've had four kids. They're now 32 down to nearly 14. But I remember them all in their teenage years. The idea of giving them millions of dollars and allowing them unfettered access to booze and drugs and girls or whatever

or boys, if they're female, whatever, you know, it's a recipe for disaster. Of course it is. But I think this is why when he says that, you know, she isn't surrounded by people that love her and that she needs to, you know, be surrounded by people that actually, she care for her. Well, you're writing a book about her. You're revealing the fact that she apparently had a lesbian affair. You were one of those people that are exploiting her. Yes, she may have had a hard start because she had all this fame and wealth when she was 16. And I do think that should be protected.

But I think he is basically one of the leeches that he's accusing have taken advantage of her in her life. And yes, she is the mother of his children. He should also feel the need to protect her. He's going to gain nothing from this book. He's not going to help her get better. He's not going to help her get the mental health support or treatment that she needs. Well, so let's just take that. Okay, that's an interesting point. Let me take that up with DJ Vlad. You know, I do, I'm not convinced, actually, that it may not help her.

You know, sometimes the shock of all this being talked about publicly in the way it now is. And the book isn't doing very well, by the way, just to, you know, that point having her made is completely correct. People aren't really buying it. However, it could lead to her getting the help she needs. I don't think that's an impossibility here. I think one thing about people. Sorry, it was for DJ Vlad. Sorry, Tyler.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's a possibility that she could get some help, but she's been in the media for decades at this point, and everything has been brought forward, and she's had lots of people that really care about her, try to help, and she is where she is. I think the timing of the book, based on the child support ending about a year ago,

I think it is what it is. I think that speaks for itself. I think the money has run out, and he's looking for the book, for another source of income. And that just is what it is. I don't think you can really talk your way out of that one. By the way, does he have a joke?

But possibly it'll get some help, possibly not. I'm not sure. I don't disagree. The timing of the end of the payments and doing a book is probably not unconnected. I would also say if he's done pretty much 100% of the parenting with these two boys for 18, 19 years, do I begrudge him a bit of money

now that they've left, and the monies stop coming in? Not particularly. You know, people are very, very quick to defend Brittany from being a pretty awful parent for a long period of time to those boys, right? So, you know, again, is there a double standard there because she's the woman, he's the man, it was reversed.

Well, he was, I'm sorry, he was a... Let me paint a picture for you, Esther. If it was a male pop star who had embarked on a pretty catastrophically self-harming, sustained period of many years, of drug abuse and alcohol abuse and so on to the extent that he got no custody of his kids, would we be vilifying the woman

who they were with, who brought up the kids because they weren't capable? I'm not sure we would in the same way. But that's not what we're vilifying Kevin for. We're vilifying him after receiving $40,000 a month, allegedly, for about $15,000. He was, not fine, that's why he was awarded by the court? I'm playing devil's advocate.

I'm playing devil's advocate, but why shouldn't he get paid? If she's worth $50 million, why shouldn't he get $40,000 a month to bring up their children? I'm not disputing that. I'm not sure I blame him for that. They're now adults. They're now adults. He's gained as much money as he possibly can from raising the kids and from being her ex-husband. That's enough. He has four other kids to raise.

Maybe he should focus on that and get a job. Because I think with $40,000 a month, he's probably got a pretty good nest egg if he's been sensible with his money. I think that. To be honest, I mean, heavy, I'll bring you in here. I doubt that. actually. You know, it sounds a lot of money until as he lay out, as he laid out where it goes. You know, all this kind of money to regular people sounds obscene, right?

So let's just start from that. People hear 40 grand a month, they think this is ridiculous. These people are super rich or whatever. But actually, if they're used to a certain lifestyle with their mom and blah, blah, blah, then I can understand how this money fritters away quite quickly. The point is he might be all the negative things that you're collectively saying, But it might also be that without him, those kids would have had a pretty awful life. And I'm not sure you can put a price on that.

I do think he's probably been a pretty good father. I do think that's clear from what people have said about the way he's brought up those children. I'd be interested to talk to them, actually, and get their side of this. But when he said that they just don't want to see their mum, because when they've been this year, it's so shocking, they don't want to put themselves through that. That's a massive alarm bell to me. Yeah, I think multiple things can be true at once. I don't doubt that he is a decent father.

Like I said, I don't know too much about his parenting, but I will say that it's very justified that he was getting child support, especially if he had full custody. But what I don't respect is that he's made a full-time career out of being Britney's ex and that he continues to exploit it in this way. If he was working on something, working on more hustles, working on, you know, building a brand or a company or something for himself to sustain his life after the child support, then that's fine. But you know what, have you? I would say watching that scene at the view, which I think is pretty shocking, you look back at it now, when you're the most hated guy in America and you're Britney Spears' ex-husband and the mother and the father of her two kids, there's no getting away, there's no escaping that.

You're that forever. That was like a century ago. He was branded the biggest rat in America. Everyone gleefully celebrating his demise. And it's like, I'm not sure how you ever come back from that. everybody's hiring. If Kevin Federline was walking down the street right now, nobody would be checking for him.

We all forgot about him until he started putting this book out there respectfully. So it's like he could have went and developed a life for himself that did not have to do it. But none of you were criticizing Britney Spears on notice, which I find fascinating. If it was the other way around, if it was a male...

But he's been through enough criticism. If their behavior was considered non-conduasive to raising their kids at all, right? I don't think you'd be so hasty in condemning the partner who brings them up and not condemning the parent deemed unfit

for parenting. I don't think that's what it is. She was really mentally unwell. She's had loads of mental health struggles and she's really worked very hard to overcome them. In the period of her conservatorship, she released two albums she had multiple Vegas residencies.

She was on, I believe, America's Got Talent. She did a lot for herself and she really tried to prove herself. And in the middle of that, she had a power Do you really know, I mean, if you were with those kids when they visited their mum this year, can you be 100% certain about what you think they saw? I mean, look, I remember supporting the... I supported, listen, I supported the free Brittany thing, actually.

I thought she should have been released and given her freedom. But I now regret that support, actually. I think the people that's... I think I don't know any of these people, so I only took it at face value. There's very little evidence to me that her life has been improved by the so-called freedom that she got from the end of the conservatorship. In fact, the opposite. And if what Kevin Federline says is true, then maybe he is a loathsome little, you know, money-grabbing rat. Maybe he's all those things.

But maybe he also genuinely cares that the mother of his two kids doesn't do something terrible. And he clearly feels that she's on the edge. Tyler. I think something that people don't discuss enough with this. situation is when therapy and doctors and all those types of people are forced upon you for 15 years, and then all of a sudden you get your freedom back, there's no care plan to get you back on track. How do you trust the people that were turned against you and forced upon you for years? Brittany has spoken out about, I'm going to bring Britney's direct voice into this.

Brittany has spoken out directly about that for the past couple of years about how therapy was forced upon her. So what do you do in that situation? This situation has never really happened before on such a grand scale. Well, you know, I think ultimately, we've got to bring this to a close. It's been an interesting debate, but I think ultimately we all just wanted to be okay, right? Britney Spears is one of the most iconic pop stars of my lifetime. And at her best, she was like this incredibly fresh-faced, innocent, you know, fantastically high-energy, dancer, singer, performer, incredible talent.

And it's just desperately sad to see where she now is. And like I said again, you know, when I hear that the boys don't even want to be around her, that's just incredibly sad and worrying. And I hope she gets the help. And if perversely, it takes Kevin Federline's book and his media tour around it, albeit if he's feathering his nest, fine, criticize him for that. But if ultimately it does lead to her getting the help she needs because he keeps telling people how desperate situation is,

it could end up being a good thing for her. We'll see. We will see. Got to leave you there. Thank you all very much. Pierce Morgan Unsensit is proudly independent. The only boss around here is me. If you enjoy our show, we ask only one simple thing. Hit subscribe on YouTube and follow Pierce Morgan Unsensored on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.

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