Piers Morgan Uncensored - “Iranian Regime STOOGE” George Galloway WALKS OUT + Naftali Bennett Interview

Episode Date: June 17, 2025

Israel’s allies have been rapidly losing patience with Netanyahu’s government over the increasingly aimless brutality of the war in Gaza - but the strikes on Iran have drawn a markedly different r...esponse, with unanimous agreement that they cannot be allowed to develop nuclear weapons. But when does defense become attack? Piers Morgan speaks to the former Prime Minister of Israel, Naftali Bennett, who many consider to be the frontrunner to replace Netanyahu. Then Piers tries a discussion with George Galloway - but what ensues is a war of words and slew of accusations, before the former MP walks out of the interview. Editor's Note: Professor Marandi was not inside the Iranian State TV building, as his own social media posts make clear. This was posted more than an hour before Mr Galloway's interview: https://x.com/s_m_marandi/status/1934647062173274204/history Piers Morgan Uncensored is proudly independent and supported by:Ridge Wallet: Upgrade your wallet today! Get 10% Off @Ridge with code PIERS at https://www.Ridge.com/PIERS #Ridgepod Tax Network USA: Call 1-800-958-1000 or visit https://TNUSA.com/PIERS to meet with a strategist today for FREE Beam: Visit https://shopbeam.com/PIERS and use code PIERS to get our exclusive discount of up to 30% off. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Israel is not at war with the Iranian people, but we are in war with the regime. If this corrupt, violent and radical regime falls, that would be a huge blessing for everyone. Iran is presently the hero of the vast majority of people in the world. Oh, rubbish. And it's the fact that Iran is giving Israel a bloody good hiding every single night. It's not, though, is it? It's not, though, is it? This is pure.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Nonsense, Pierce. Why are you so deluded, George? Why are they begging Donald Trump to join in? Why is your pathological hatred of all things Israel made you so deluded? My dad is bigger than your dad. Not my dad, just the number of people that watch my show, massively dwarves yours.
Starting point is 00:00:47 My dick is bigger than your dick. Are you really down to that? But I'll tell you what, Pierce, you're a busted flucky. Israel's allies have been rapidly losing patience for Prime Minister Netanyahu's government over the increasingly aimless brutality, it seems, of the war in Gaza. The strikes on Iran had drawn a markedly different response. There were calls for de-escalation,
Starting point is 00:01:11 but unanimous agreement that Iran cannot be allowed to develop nukes and that Israel has a right to defend itself from that. The question is, when does defence become attack if it hasn't already? And will the Iran crisis relieve international pressure over the killing of starvation in Gaza, which is suddenly far from the headlines? when George Galloway will be joining me with his views shortly. We'll begin with Naftali Bennett, the former Prime Minister of Israel, who many consider a front-runner to potentially be Israel's next Prime Minister.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Welcome back to uncensored, Mr. Bennett. I appreciate you joining me. First of all, to those who say that there is no hard evidence that Iran is imminently about to produce a nuclear bomb, and therefore this is an unjustified attack by Israel. What do you say to them? Well, the facts are to the contrary. There's a highly enriched uranium in an amount that's enough for 10 nuclear warheads. This is more than Iran ever had, and it's at 60% enrichment grade. There's no civilian use for uranium at 60% enrichment. All right, you don't need it for isotopes. You don't need it for medical needs only for military use. So that in itself is a proof. Secondly, we're not. we have intel that on the device building, Iran has made strides.
Starting point is 00:02:38 And third, we saw over the past month, the Haminae himself said that it's time to remove the tumor called Israel. That's a direct statement that he wants to annihilate Israel. Now, when you're talking about preventing nuclear military Iran, you can't wait for the bomb to be on its way to. You have to do it when you can. Even now, it's after the 12th hour. This should have been done a decade ago. Now it's much, much tougher because it's spread all around, but we're way, way after the latest deadline. Do you believe that the way this has played out in the first few days, this war, that Israel may have dealt a lethal blow to the Iranian regime in the sense of taking out so many military commanders, nuclear science,
Starting point is 00:03:31 nuclear sites, causing so much damage to any nuclear program that they may have been pursuing, that actually, if you look at the response from Iran so far, it suggests that maybe this was, from a military perspective, a perfectly timed attack that may well potentially precipitate the removal of the regime. Look, that would be a wonderful outcome for the Middle East and for the world, because You know, this regime is horrible. And by the way, I want to be very clear, Israel is it not at war with the Iranian people? We respect the Iranian people.
Starting point is 00:04:13 We should be living in peace with them. We have a very deep history that goes back thousands of years with the Persians. But we are in war with the regime, and especially trying to stop it from acquiring nuclear weapons. if this corrupt, disconnected, old, violent, and radical regime falls, that would be a huge blessing for everyone. That is not the explicit goal of this operation, but obviously we'd be thrilled if that would happen. Where does America sit in this?
Starting point is 00:04:49 Because it looks to me that President Trump is keen for it not to be publicly seen that America is involved at all, but that tacitly conversations must have happened with Prime Minister Netanyahu, where he at least has not put up much of a fight to stop Israel doing this. Well, you know, America and Israel were different countries. We view things similarly, but not precisely the same way.
Starting point is 00:05:17 And from our perspective, Iran is an existential threat. From America's perspective, it's a strategic threat. That's one notch less, and that's legit. Israel is not asking America to do anything. We're doing this. We do. One of the problems is that one of the facilities, the Fordo enrichment facility,
Starting point is 00:05:40 is buried deep underground in a mountain, and Israel doesn't have all the tools right now to take care of that. So as the campaign progresses, maybe new options will open up. And at the end of the day, it's America, and President Trump's decision what he wants to do.
Starting point is 00:05:59 I think that from a global standpoint, when Iran is so feeble, so vulnerable, the regime, so weakened, with such a limited ability to retaliate, the risk of taking out foredough is, you know, a big one. It's a positive. Because it's not only in our interest, I think America doesn't want to wake up
Starting point is 00:06:24 with a Iranian nuclear regime like what happened in North Korea. During the North Korea crisis, back a few decades ago, there wasn't an Israel who was willing to do the hard work. Here we are willing to do the hard work. We're paying the price. It's our citizens who are taking hits. It's our pilots who are flying over Iran. If the world wants a safer place, yeah, they should back us.
Starting point is 00:06:50 At the same time, of course, says the ongoing war with Hamas in Gaza. I've been increasingly critical of the Israeli government strategy in Gaza for a number of reasons, but primarily triggered by what came out of the mouth of Mr Smodrich, who appeared to be brazenly discussing
Starting point is 00:07:11 a form of genocide, ethnic cleansing, a clear, unambiguous statement of intent to clear all the Palestinians out of Gaza. when you heard what he said, what was your reaction? Well, peers, I would urge you. First of all, I get you. I mean, you're looking at things from your perspective from the most balanced way that you can.
Starting point is 00:07:36 I would urge you to look at Israel's actions and not to look at foolish words of politicians. And it's a bit peculiar, but Israel's a democracy. We, too many of our politicians, look domestically to gain some local benefit, and sometimes they say really stupid things, but that is not the government policy. Israel's policy is not what Smotri said,
Starting point is 00:08:03 and the way we are operating is one which is consistent with international law. If that is the case, and I've been saying this to a lot of my pro-Israeli guests recently, if that is the case, if everything you're doing is lawful, why does the Israeli government persist in banning international journalists from going anywhere near Gaza? Well, in Gaza, there's one of two options for our journalists. You can't just roam around because you'll get killed or step on a booby trap. You're either embedded within the IDF or embedded within Hamas.
Starting point is 00:08:38 When you're embedded within Hamas, as we just saw a couple of weeks ago, the Washington Post came out with a segment saying that if you don't report what the Hamas wants you to report, you'll be threatened. So we're not going to allow journalists to just roam around a battlefield that Israeli soldiers are getting killed by the day. So we're not going to do that,
Starting point is 00:09:01 but you can enter with IDF. You know, we do our best, but we can't let people roam around. By the way, that's pretty much, to my knowledge, consistent with most situations. No, that's not right. That's not right.
Starting point is 00:09:16 I've seen some Israelis said that's not right. I know many war correspondents, and they've never known things to be as restricted as they are currently with Gaza. They can't believe that literally no international journalists have been allowed to enter freely. And frankly, when it comes to the risk assessment, that's not the business of Israel to make that decision fall on this, down to the individual journalists and their networks or their media bosses, as it always is in these situations. And I think the problem for Israel is that it's allowed you, the Israel, the Israel, government and the IDF to throw a cast of doubt and suspicion over almost anything that happens that reflects badly on Israel or the IDF because it can't be verified either way. So almost everything
Starting point is 00:10:04 that happens is bad. All we see is people coming on the way, airways going, we don't think that happened. We're going to launch our own inquiry, buying time, moving on. Whereas if there was a willingness to allow international journalists in, they could report and verify. freely and do their jobs. And that would remove a lot of the cloud of suspicion that actually Israel is doing stuff in Gaza, which it doesn't want the world to see. Many of us carry around bulky, worn-out wallets that are uncomfortable and are full of junk. The big question is why Ridge wallets can hold 12 cars plus cash with zero bulk. They're made from premium materials like aluminum, titanium, and carbon fiber. And they're built with RFID blocking technology to defend your cars against
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Starting point is 00:11:34 or the way we're being portrayed, if it's being run well by Israel, no, it's not. We're doing a really bad job at that, and you're a living proof of that because, you know, I'm very much in the know. I have a son who's a soldier. I fought in all wars. I know the way the IDF operates.
Starting point is 00:11:52 We don't do much of what is said about us, but the fact is that you think that we do, and therefore we should figure out ways, including what you're suggesting. Look, this is a micro-tactical. I don't know if there's a way to... We've got nothing to hide. The GHF right now, the humanitarian fund gave out today
Starting point is 00:12:15 31 million meals just today alone. We're doing everything. can to defeat Hamas, bring home the hostages while minimizing civilian casualties. It looks bad because it does look bad, because it is bad, because war is bad and wars twice or ten times as bad when the strategy of Hamas is to wrap themselves in civilians. Why is it that Mossad appears to have dropped the ball so spectacularly with Gaza? in a way it simply didn't do with Hezbollah or now Iran. That's the thing that has mystified me
Starting point is 00:12:56 is that you've got one of the world's, obviously, most formidable intelligence agencies is capable of planning for years, attacks on terror groups in Lebanon and to dismantle before our very eyes now a lot of the nuclear infrastructure in Iran, but was incapable, it seems, of knowing that Hamas were building an underground,
Starting point is 00:13:19 tunnel terror network, or was planning one of the biggest atrocities of modern times. And that after that, the only response appears to be that the only way to take out Hamas is to level Gaza to the ground. And if that means killing tens and tens of thousands of civilians in the process, well, that is very sad, but collateral damage. And everyone's just got to accept it. I just, there seems to be a real disconnect between the way Israel and Mossad have gone about dealing with terrorism in Lebanon, terrorism in Iran, but terrorism in Gaza? Well, there's a fundamental difference in the modus operandi of our enemy. In both cases, we want to destroy our enemy. We don't want to hurt the civilians.
Starting point is 00:14:10 The difference is that Iran wants to kill Jews, Hamas wants to kill Jews, but also it covers itself with civilians. and that's something that Iran doesn't do. And that explains the big difference in numbers. The Hamas strategy is to kill as many Jews as possible, but also to wrap itself and embed itself within the civilians. That is not Iran's strategy. That explains the discrepancy. The thing that's getting you, as you said, very bad PR as a country,
Starting point is 00:14:45 is that people just find the number of children that are dying in Gaza increasingly, unconscionable, but they also felt that the three-month, nearly three-month, blockade of food and aid was just another massively unnecessary hammer blow onto already impoverished war-torn women, children, innocent civilians. And that there's been a relentless bombardment at the same time since the ceasefire was broken. And they don't really understand how this ends,
Starting point is 00:15:16 or what Israel's real game plan is. They're confused by what people like Smodrich say. They take him at his word and think that there's a plan to get rid of all Palestinians. We're now seeing these terrible scenes of thousands of Palestinians storming towards trucks to try and get the food that is being allowed in. And then a number of them are getting shot dead. And the IDF, having denied any of it was to do with them, have now conceded that they have been shooting at people where they believe there's a threat.
Starting point is 00:15:44 But the imagery, the imagery of starving people. And whatever people try and pretend they're not starving. I've had people only say, oh, they're all fat people in Gaza. You can see thousands of people storming a truck. You only do that when you're incredibly hungry. The fact that they are being shot at is just to most people outside, absolutely horrific. Well, let's unpack the question. You said quite a few things.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Regarding the three-month blockade, prior to the three-month, we pushed in massive amounts of food that was, roughly equivalent to six months of food. Problem was that Hamas was sort of creaming the crop and taking it and then reselling it at a very low price, at a very high price
Starting point is 00:16:33 to the people, and we were enrich in Hamas' coffers, which is contrary to our very goals. So when we stopped that, it wasn't forever. We said we got to rethink the way we're doing things. I think we should have done this a year ago,
Starting point is 00:16:49 a year and a half ago, from the very beginning what we're doing right now, which is to designate zones that are for civilians and provide food and to screen the terrorists that cannot infiltrate those civilian zones and dry them out with a blockade. Do I think the whole war is being executed well? No, I think it should have been much, much shorter, especially versus Hamas. I think we could have gotten this done long ago. so I'm unhappy about the competence of the way the government is running it. But in terms of morality, you know, we're trying one way, we're trying another. Look, if our goal was to kill as many Palestinians as we wanted or anything of that sort,
Starting point is 00:17:39 there would be a million Palestinians dead, not 50,000. It's hard, you know, because every child who's dead is painful. That's just a fact. It's a horrible thing, children that die. We do have to look at the broad picture, which is the ratio of combatant, of terrorists, to citizens, and understand that this is one of the most rare cases in history where the whole basis of the Hamas strategy
Starting point is 00:18:10 is to wrap themselves with citizens in order for you to ask me these very questions, and there's no magic peers. There's no magic formula here. It's tough, thankless work, but what choice do we have? We have to eradicate Hamas. We have to bring home our hostages.
Starting point is 00:18:31 All of this can go away tomorrow morning if Hamas lays down its arms and lets the hostages out. So the responsibility is at the doorstep of Hamas. We're not happy about all of this, but it's the best we can do. And by the way, if anyone in the world has a better plan, let me know.
Starting point is 00:18:50 I'll bring it to the government. Does it not give you pause for thought that two other former Israeli prime ministers have now accused Israel of committing war crimes? Well, as I said before, Israel is not exempt from stupidity
Starting point is 00:19:07 and for people, ministers, former ministers, former prime ministers from saying stupid things. You know, it's part of our culture of debate and everyone can say anything they want. I think they're wrong, flat wrong, and I'm very close to the military, to the soldiers, to the commanders. I myself, till fairly recently served as a commander in one of the units and fought all the wars. Israel is not in the
Starting point is 00:19:42 business of genocides, of killing civilians deliberately. It's just not our way of doing things. Now, on the extremes, can things happen? Yes, and do we investigate them? Yes, we do. There's lots of speculation about you. You've been doing better in recent polling. Your momentum as potentially the opposition and perhaps successor to Prime Minister Netanyahu has been growing.
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Starting point is 00:21:13 I've not made that decision yet, but I do think. think that the Israeli nation deserves better leadership, much better leadership. The nation itself has been amazing, resilient, tough. It's really tough times. I mean, people are dying every night in Israel, and yet 200,000 Israelis abroad are trying to get home, and very few Israelis are trying to get out. I think it's not only patriotism, it's simply deep love for this place, and it's a tough place, but we have no other place. And so I do think that the nation deserves much better leadership, but make no mistake on Iran and fighting back Iran
Starting point is 00:21:57 and bringing home the hostages and defeating Hamas, there's almost, I'd say, wall-to-wall consensus on the goals. Now, regarding the ways to do it, obviously there's a vibrant debate. I mean, there is, but there's also a majority view that Prime Minister Netanyahu, who, according to a poll published in the Times of Israel, cares more about holding power than actually bringing in this war to an end
Starting point is 00:22:24 or getting the hostages released. And that there are a number of good reasons for him not to want that war to end, not least because he'd be facing corruption charges when it's over and would be held to proper account for allowing October the 7th to happen on his watch. You know, many people think you should have elections sooner or rather later in Israel and that if that was to happen, somebody like you might well come through and take over. And that might be a good way to try and get through this and try and bring this war to an end, get the hostages out, and end all this.
Starting point is 00:23:02 I agree. Naftali Bennett. Thank you very much indeed for joining me. Thank you. Well, joining me now is the host of the mother of all talk shows and former British MP. George Galloway. George, you were listening there to Naftali Bennett. What was your response to that?
Starting point is 00:23:22 interview. Well, you did a good job as his, Alistair Campbell, to him as Tony Blair. I hope he remembers you if he does get into the Prime Minister C. I'm frankly astounded that you did not ask him about the bombing of the Iranian State TV station just a couple of hours ago. The mass murder of tea ladies, technicians, journalists and broadcasters. I can't believe that you didn't know about that and indeed Professor Morandi... You've just told me that, so that's the answer to your question. I didn't know
Starting point is 00:23:56 about it. I've been on air. Well, well, you really need to be better briefed. You're interviewing a guy that you're punted. You can have your views about that. In answer to your question, I didn't know, so that's the answer to your question. Well, you should have known. Okay, well, you're a better journalist than me. You're a better
Starting point is 00:24:12 broadcaster than me. I didn't know. Professor Marandi was in that building. I don't know if he's dead, but the story is that he was in that building to do an interview with you and I very much hope that that is not true. And I very much hope that he is still alive. He told me that he'd been told me that he'd been told me that he'd been told me he'd been told me that he'd been told me he'd be told me a liar, a coward and a genocide enableer. So you did know about the bombing of the Iranian TV
Starting point is 00:24:45 stage? There was no bombing going on when I interviewed him obviously or I would have stopped interview. Pierce, there's mass casualties. Yes, George. You asked me if I knew it was going on when I interviewed him. Well, it's a disgrace that you did not know. Because you might have been able to ask if I'd known I would have stopped the interview, obviously. Well, this is going to grow and grow as an issue, Pierce. You may very well be in difficulty here. I won't be in any difficulty at all.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Why don't we get up with the interview? One thing you did know, one thing you did know is that Israel has scores, if not hundreds of nuclear weapons. And you did not mention it. Why is Israel allowed illegally to hold scores, if not hundreds of nuclear weapons in defiance of the law, uninspected by any agency in Demona? And reports today from Demona are that they are currently modernizing their nuclear fleet. Don't you think that would have put in a better perspective, this issue of nuclear weapons. The reason I know you know it is because the brave Jewish whistleblower Mordechai Vanunu, who blew the whistle on Israel's nuclear weapons,
Starting point is 00:26:05 came first to the Daily Mirror and was betrayed by your enemy and mine, Robert Maxwell, to the Mossad, and then spent 22 years in prison in solitary confinement. and turned up in the courtroom with his jaws wired together, like Hannibal Lecter, so he couldn't tell the courtroom what he told the Daily Mirror. Finally, the story appeared in Andrew Neal's Sunday Times, but only after Maxwell had betrayed him to the Mossad. So this issue of nuclear weapons, according to Tulsi Gabbard, Iran is not seeking to build a nuclear weapon.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Why would you believe them? Why would you believe them? Well, I believe Tulsi Gabbat. Why do you believe Iran? No, I'm believing in Tosi Gabbat here. I'll come on to Iran. Given that the atomic agents... Hang on, you've talked and talked and talked.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Let me get a question in. The atomic agency, as you know, brought out a report in the last few days. It made it clear that Iran had lied, obfuscated, denied access, not allowed enough inspections, and it now got uranium enriched to 60%, which is a massive stage forward from where they were at 3% a few years ago to now 60%.
Starting point is 00:27:27 And the move from that to being able to create a nuclear weapon is actually much closer and therefore more potentially imminent as a threat. And I'm just curious why you would trust Iran as far as you could throw it, the regime, not the people, the regime, when they are clearly... Accelerating their nuclear program, clearly accelerating their enrichment program.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Why would you not be concerned about that? Pierce, Pierce, Pierce, I trust Tulsi Gabbat, Donald Trump's Director of National Intelligence. You do? Don't you? Don't you? You do? I'm surprised you do. I'm very much hoping she'll be the next president, Pierce.
Starting point is 00:28:07 But I trust her. Don't you? I don't know. I've interviewed her once in my life. I don't know whether to trust everything she says or not. Well, you know that Donald Trump appointed our director of national intelligence. Why would you doubt her? Isn't Trump your friend?
Starting point is 00:28:22 I'm not doubting her or trusting her or I'm trusting her. Does he appoint liars or false? I'm asking you why you trust the Iranian regime when they say they're not wanting to build a nuclear bomb. Well, you're actually asking the wrong person for this reason. If I was running Iran, I would long ago have had a nuclear weapon. because Israel has scores or hundreds of them. And as you've just heard, is determined to bring about regime change in Iran.
Starting point is 00:28:53 So you won't get me to clutch my pearls about Iran having nuclear weapons. Why wouldn't you want regime change in Iran out of interest, given what a draconian repressive, despicable regime it is? I have this old-fashioned view. You once had it also, in relation to the country next, door, Iraq, that the leadership in any country is the business of the people in that country. But if you've got a nuclear armed superpower trying to change your regime,
Starting point is 00:29:25 frankly, you're an idiot if you don't arm yourself to the maximum that you are capable of. So you want to see Iran arming itself with nuclear weapons? Well, Israel's got hundreds. No, I'm asking you about Iran. You've just been talking about the slaughter of the... I'm asking you about Iran. Would you, George Galloway, it sounds to me like you, George Galloway, unlike the rest of the world, would like to see Iran
Starting point is 00:29:51 arming itself with nuclear weapons, to which I say you've lost your marbles. Pierce, there you go again. Unlike the rest of the world. Yeah. Do you really think that you speak for the rest of the world? Beam's creatine is America's number one, and it's made by company founded on values like hard work and delivering real results.
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Starting point is 00:31:12 So let's take those four countries out of it, or Pakistan. Listen, Iran is... Most of the world has a real problem with the concept of Iran being in nuclear power, apart from you who thinks they should have loads of nukes. No, it's not just for me. Iran is presently the hero of the vast majority of people in the world. Oh, rubbish. And it's the fact that you can't see that...
Starting point is 00:31:35 What's a load of absolute nonsense. Pierce, take your eyes off the posterior of the tiny... of the world, which is the Western world. You think that currently, most of the world, you think the rest of the world is... Latin America is with Iran.
Starting point is 00:31:50 You think the rest of the world... China is with Iran. Yeah. Russia is with Iran. Russia, China. All the Arabs are with Iran. Russia, China. Take your nose out of the ass
Starting point is 00:32:00 North Korea. Of the tiny number of people that you think are the world. They're not the world. The world is 8 billion people. Right. You're speaking for the world. for the little clique that leads a tiny fraction
Starting point is 00:32:16 of fewer than one billion of the people of the world. You simply cannot see beyond the end of your nose. As I suggested, then, you want to put up as a defense for Iran that they're supported by China, Russia. Did you mention North Korea? That's a lot of people, isn't it? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Are they the kind of people in terms of their own regimes that we should be taking as good social? supporters of these benevolent people in Tehran. You're living under Kier Starrmer's regime, for God's sake. You're going to blame the British for Kier Starrma? The French are living under Little Macron. When did you get the right to decide that seven-eighths of the world's population cannot be considered valid because you, Piers Morgan, don't like their regimes?
Starting point is 00:33:07 Listen, there's something else you didn't mention. and you must also have known about that unless you switch your mobile off at 10 o'clock at night, you already know that Iran is giving Israel a bloody good hiding every single night. It's not, though, is it? It's not, is it? You described it all as a wonderful military operation
Starting point is 00:33:31 being conducted by Israel. Let me answer you. As always, the Iranian regime has put out apocalyptic statements about this will be the annihilitary. of Israel and everything, it's like it did the last time. And you know what happened last time? Nothing. Nothing. There fired a few rockets and the dome dealt with them.
Starting point is 00:33:49 This time they've got a few... This time they've got a few missiles have got through the dome. But the idea... Hang on, let me finish my question. The idea that the Israeli Air Force have managed to inflict this kind of catastrophic damage on military commanders, nuclear scientists, nuclear sites, and all of this.
Starting point is 00:34:08 And have control of the airwaves in Tehran. And the only response so far has been a few missiles that have got past the dome. Have you seen Tel Aviv? They don't be pounding Israel. Have you seen Haifa? They don't be pounding Israel. You are astounding. This is something else you don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:26 You didn't know about Miranda. You didn't know about the TV station. I knew what Miranda told me. I knew what Miranda told me. I knew what Professor Miranda told me. Four nights in Iran. You don't know about it. Just to be clear.
Starting point is 00:34:39 I'll tell you who I believe. Just to be clear. Just to be clear. I believe the mayor of Tel Aviv. Sorry, if I may finish responding to you. Can I quote an Israeli? I believe the mayor of Tel Aviv, a former director of intelligence in the Israeli army.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Now the elected mayor of Tel Aviv, who says this has got to stop. We cannot win this war. That's the mayor of Tel Aviv. I can believe him. I see zero evidence. There is zero evidence that Israel can't win this war as things stand. Zero. Well, why are they asking the 90% of the damage is being inflicted by Israel onto Iran?
Starting point is 00:35:23 This is pure nonsense, peers. Why are you so deluded, George? Why are they begging Donald Trump to join in? Why is your pathological hatred of all things Israel made you so deluded? Is this something else you don't know? Do you know that Tucker Carlson and Steve are right this minute on TV debating how if Trump gives in to Netanyahu's begging him to join in and save the day that it will be the end of the Trump presidency, that it will split Maga down the middle. Do you not know that either?
Starting point is 00:36:01 No, why would I know that? I'm on being on air. How would I know that? Well, if you're really... Why do you expect me to know things when I'm literally... literally interviewing people, are you? I made the mistake, Pierce, of thinking you were a well-informed man. I am. When I'm actually filming my show, it's quite hard to keep up with world events.
Starting point is 00:36:20 But don't you have someone that can pass you a note? I've got lots of people that do a brilliant job. It's why I have one of those popular shows in the world. Yeah, it's why my show is a lot more popular than yours, because I'm better at it than you. So stop the lectures about how good a journalist I am, or how good a broadcaster I am. or how good a broadcaster am, or how good my team are.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Because if you were so good, George, you'd have a lot more people following you, a lot more people watching you. But most people think you become a delusional loom. And I think that's sad. My dad is bigger than your dad. Not my dad, just the number of people that watch my show, massively dwarfs yours. My dick is bigger than your dick. Are you really down to that, Pierce?
Starting point is 00:37:04 Well, I've got some evidence that it isn't, but I'll not go there. because I'm actually astounded at the sheer ignorance, which I'm being very kind and calling it ignorance. I could easily call it lying. I could easily call it willful ignorance. Of course you could. That you didn't know there's tea ladies lying dead in the Iranian TV station. To be clear, to be clear, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:37:33 To be clear, I'm being told by my team, my ear, as we speak, that outside of Iran, there has been no independent verification of what you are saying. So you are believing the words of the Iranian regime. And forgive me if I will wait for independent corroboration before believing what the Iranian regime says. You don't believe You don't believe that Professor Morandi. You don't believe that Professor Morandi, your frequent guest, that gentleman was born today.
Starting point is 00:38:15 He's not a gentleman. I think most of the people who have ever watched him think he's a gentleman. No, I don't think he's a gentleman. I think he's a very disingenuous man who spews a lot of bullshit. They don't think he's lying, peers. They don't think he's lying.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Oh, they do, George. They do. They think he's lying when he says he was bombed in the Iranian TV station today. He wasn't bombed. He was on there talking to me. What are you talking about? There's footage. How was he bombed and talking to me?
Starting point is 00:38:47 He was talking to me. On the TV station burning. How on earth was he being bombed? Anyway, listen. Pierce. Complete nonsense, man. Pierce. You're talking nonsense.
Starting point is 00:38:55 As your dick is so much bigger than my dick, as your dad is so much bigger than my dad, and as your television program, It's so much bigger and better than mine. Yeah. I'll say good night to you because I have rather more wholesome people. Oh, you're running away. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:11 No, I'm not running away, but I won't be coming back. Yeah. Because I made the mistake of thinking that you were an honest man. Yeah. In fact, you're a slippery, disingenuous. Well, it's okay, because I never made that mistake with you. So, don't worry about it. I never made that mistake with you, George.
Starting point is 00:39:29 I always thought you were thoroughly disingenuous, and you prop up these evil, regimes for reasons that completely baffled me. And you think you're the right guy. Is that why every single week, and actually, you know what you're the other guy? One minute you call me a rat, the next minute I'm your hero and you're praising me, it's pathetic. Is that why you ask me onto your show every single week, Pierce?
Starting point is 00:39:51 Sorry? Every single week, I've got the texts. Every single week you ask me onto your show, because I'm all these things you just accuse me on? No, I don't mind having you on to challenge you. No problem. Every week? No problem.
Starting point is 00:40:05 You asked me every week. You came on, I think you, you apparently last week, we last asked you on six weeks ago. Why are you lying? We didn't ask you all for six weeks. You asked me to come on every single week. Third of May we asked you last time.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Third of May, you're lying. Your dick may be bigger than mine. George. Your dick may be bigger than mine. Third of May. Your show may be bigger than mine. But I'll tell you what, Pierce. You're a busted flush.
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