Piers Morgan Uncensored - Is Mary Poppins Racist? And Piers Meets 'Libs Of TikTok' Creator

Episode Date: March 1, 2024

Libs of TikTok founder Chaya Raichik talks to Piers after her encounter with Washington Post reporter Taylor Lorenz went viral at the weekend. The exchange was variously described as "unhinged," "cringeworthy" and "agonising." Meanwhile Mary Poppins’ gets a new age rating in the UK over its use of a racial slur, Piers and his pack react. YouTube: @PiersMorganUncensored X: @PiersUncensored TikTok: @piersmorganuncensored Insta: @piersmorganuncensored Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Libs of TikTok, short for Liberals, is one of the most popular and controversial accounts on social media. It highlights examples of LGBT access, posted publicly by well, libs, such as this recent post of a man in a dog's mask with a comment, there's a serious mental health crisis in this country. Ohio Raycheck is the creator of Libs of TikTok. This weekend, she sparred with Washington Post reporter Taylor Lorenz, who was mystifyingly wearing a mask outside. The encounter went viral and was verily described as unhinged, cringeworthy, and agonizing with both parties being on the receiving end of all of those criticisms. Here's a taster of what she said. I'm asking you, why is it that people have to live under your sort of view of gender? It's not my view. It's science. It's facts. It's biology. There's nothing logical about chopping off kids, body parts. There's nothing logical about giving kids porn in school.

The whole trans is it's based on a lie. You can't change your gender. Personally, my feeling is that I believe in personal liberty. I grew up in a town where a lot of people for their middle school graduation women got nose jobs. I was just wondering, out of all the books that you've sort of tried to get removed, how many have you read? I've read a couple of them. Uh-huh. Which ones?

Gender queer. Uh-huh. I've read. This book is gay. Uh-huh. My shadow is pink. And what do you consider gay porn in these books? This is a blow job.

In the conservative movement, there's this ideology around white nationalism, which is obviously kind of a hardline ideology. How do you feel about sort of aligning yourself with those people on account? Not all cultures are equal. But let's just get back to the great replacement stuff, because I'm curious, what are your thoughts on that whole ideology? There were some minds over the past three years that there were more illegal. more illegals coming into our border than children being born. They're importing people who want to destroy America. So is Libs of TikTok really hateful or just shining a legitimate light on woke insanity?

In a moment, we'll discuss that and more with tonight's pack. Here in the studio, Uncensor Contributors Esther Cracker and Ava Santina and a New York Fox Nation host and author of Nuff said, my friend Tyrus. But first, I'm joined by the Libs of TikTok creator, Aya, Rachel. Well, hi, thank you very much indeed for joining me on Uncensens. I've got to say, I read a lot of your tweets, and the ones that I absolutely love are where you expose rank hypocrisy, where you simply show people a statement by a liberal, normally about, you know, something to do with the right wing or conservative arm. And then you have a response which just highlights the hypocrisy.

cares thanks so much for having me on it's great to be here yeah the there's a lot of hypocrisy to expose and it's part of the reason why they hate me so much because I'm just sharing they themselves in their own words and pointing out their hypocrisy and they just can't handle seeing that yeah I mean you've become a hate figure and a figure that's very popular as well

how do you deal with the reaction and you've got an aggressive interview there with the Washington Post journalist. Do you care? Does it deter you? No, not at all. The hate actually keeps me going because the people that hate me are the most vile people

on earth, and the fact that they hate me tells me that I'm doing something great. I would actually be upset if the people who are pro genital mutilation and pro-giving kids porn in school and pro-sexualizing kids, I would be kind of concerned if they liked me.

Right. I mean, many people will watch this and they'll agree with you. Do you think some of the ways you express yourself have crossed the line? Are there any of the tweets you've done with hindsight? You would have phrased things a little differently? No, I stand by every single one of my tweets. I'm very proud of the work that I have done to expose the sexualization and grooming of children and to expose the hypocrisy of the left. Okay, well let's bring in the panel here to discuss this. Ava, I mean it's a hugely popular account this, various accounts, but it's hugely popular.

What do you think of it? I find it quite hateful, but I think that's the intent, right? Because people are addicted to receiving click gratification and they like to be retweeted and they like to be liked online and a really good way to go about that is to stoke fear

and to stoke loathing. You know, that one video you just showed us there of that person in a mask and he's, you know, they are like pouring over a couple of slices of bread. Yeah, that's totally nuts. But does that person deserve to go viral and have their life destroyed? Probably not. It's very weird behaviour, but it's almost like capital punishment. But there's a lot of people on the woke side who are also extremely hateful.

And, you know, pricking their balloon actually could be a valuable public service, exposing the rank hypocrisy of much of the woke insanity in terms of the way they express themselves, I think, is important. But what have we actually exposed here? Have we not just exposed? Some people are quite strange. I mean, is there any actual humanitarian good from posting these people online? Well, I think what happens is when you tend to be on a corner of social media,

you're almost, you don't even want to be there, but you're in an echo chamber. So actually, the algorithm doesn't allow you to see these things. The fact that this website, or the Libs of TikTok, just repost things that are already posted by LIBS, I think it's quite telling. It's not fabricating things that don't exist. I do appreciate, it may not be helpful to say something,

that someone who's clearly mentally unwell is mentally unwell for it to go viral and for them to be trolled on the internet. But I think the fundamental premises is not making stuff up. These are things that exist. This person arguably put it on social media. If he goes viral because another account retweet it, what's the book here? I kind of agree. I mean, it's bringing Tyrus. I mean, Taurus, there is a lot of hypocrisy on all sides on social media. We know that. Yeah. But what do you make about the few... I'm actually... Sorry, go on.

I'm actually upset. One of my... I want to be made fun of by Libs of TikTok. I love you guys. I think you need to open up... I need to open up lives. You need to come after conservatives also. There's a lot of dumb shit being coming out of people's mouth. And I think the biggest thing is just hearing that argument. I watched that interview and here's the thing, it's freedom of speech. Whether you like it or not in America, you're not going to like everything. People go after you. I think what Lib's is doing is they're just putting a mirror on you. Now, if she was just writing the stuff and just doing what everyone else is doing, basically the parrot procedure, the woman that she's arguing with, was basically saying, have you read any books?

I'm willing to bet the woman that said that to her didn't, because she didn't give her any names. So I think what would have been, what has to happen is if you're in situations like that, I don't think any books should be burned. I do think, though, there should be just like anything else, a pack of cigarettes, in America, you've got to be 18. If there's a book that has as high sexual content or instructions or biography, it needs to be labeled and such, there are, and if a child is curious or has those questions. That's a book that needs to be checked out with their family. So there needs to be access to those things.

But we need to remember to be adults in the room. Anytime, like I said, if they would have said, hey, let's sit down and read this book together and actually figure out what's wrong. And that's boring and it's a long thing because in America especially, we're all parrots. We only want to read about eight lines, if that, and then we take that and go argue with it.

And we're seeing that on TV. We see everyone like people like us, we come on, We read the headline and read a little paragraph. No one's actually, you got to do the work. You got to go find the books, and then you can have a real conversation. We don't have real conversations anymore. We're parents or repeat stuff, and whoever barks the loudest gets the most likes and tweets. So Libs is not doing anything that CNN doesn't do.

Every news media doesn't do. Look for a gaucho moment. Someone said something. They take it out of context and place it. Here's the thing. The Libs aren't even doing that. They're just putting it. So keep doing what you do, but I'm sure if you watch me, you can make fun of me on something.

Like my arms are crossed on TV, something. Some of the tweets have had repercussions. They've led to people being harassed. They've led to threats and so on. Do you have regret about some of the consequences, albeit they may not have been your intention? Well, I don't think it's fair to say that my tweets led to harassment. You know, the media, they like to accuse me of violence and bomb threats and stuff.

And there's no evidence that it's my followers. doing that. It's just, I mean, if I'm responsible for any of that, then the media is responsible for the death threats that I get after they report on me in a malicious way. So I just, I don't think that it's accurate to say that. And when you say, for example, that not all cultures are equal, what does you mean by that?

I mean, if you look at what's going on in the West, they're importing the third world. And there's constantly videos all over. It's very easy to find. And I think if you import the third world, you're going to become the third world. And it's scary. And I did explain it. You played the clip here.

You know, we're bringing in people who don't want to, you know, Taylor used the term melting pot, but they don't want to join the melting pot. They don't like America. They don't like what we stand for. Okay. Ava, you were saying that was disgraceful. Why? Well, I'm just sort of confused because I'm not really too sure what you're adding to America

or what you're actually contributing in comparison to this, you know, this quote unquote, importing third world. What are you talking about people who migrate to America or people who migrate to the UK and then I don't know work in your health service and, you know, work for you. What are you actually contributing? Just because the color of your skin is white

doesn't mean that you are somehow more valuable than someone else. That's not what she's saying. I mean, it is what she's saying. I never mentioned skin color. But you did. You said importing the third world and we know what those connotations mean.

Let's not play stupid here. We know exactly what you mean like that. No, no, no. You are adding, I didn't. You didn't get that from that. I didn't get that. As a black man, I didn't get that from that all. What videos? The videos of the third world in the West, totally destroying the cities. Let me bring Tyrus.

If I could just have a, like, listen. Don't talk about each other. Taras, have your say. Yeah, Tara, here's the thing. This is what happens. So she got asked like 700 major questions, and she tried to answer each one. And they're all gotcha questions. She said some cultures, listen, America, when the melting pot, you come to assimilate, this is where, if I could give you any advice, do not do these interviews. Because they're only designed to get you to ask you as many questions.

It's like a rapid fire. Boom, boom, boom. And you're answering them as fastly as you can, and that's the problem. Each one of those conversations you had was at least a 40-minute conversation on, like, my show, Outkick. Like, each one were long and diverse, and there's no quick answer to them. You got to stop doing the quick answers when you're interviewed. Because now they're going to say you're racist because you're just being on the grouping. When you group and that's what she was doing back to you, she was trying to group you in because by the color of your skin because you're racist because you're putting out stuff and you're asking a question.

If people are coming to this country not to assimilate to do whatever they want and what we're seeing on our streets and what we're seeing in the streets of London, not a lot of assimilation. But there are good. on your streets. Are there are good immigrants that come here, but you can't just say, oh, well, sometimes when you group it, you like you ease it, but you don't want to group her. You want to make her into this racist person. All she's doing is being on a mirror.

And she's no different to you, any news group, you're taking what she's saying. You're turning it around your narrative, and then you're throwing it back at her. Like, do some actual research on her. The woman's not racist at all. I would be the first one to be aware. A lot of the crime that you're talking about is perpetrated by

American citizens. Be better than that. You're better than that. Get on her on context. Well, she did accuse me at the beginning of this interview. But don't attack her skin. You're better than that. I didn't. I didn't attack her skin. I don't know you. You said that my intent needs to be a hate account. So. I mean, it is. It is. Leave her a lot. It's to capitalize on hate, fear and loathing. That is it. And it's okay. Okay. Let Ava respond. You can ask me what's my intent of this account. My intent is not to stokeet. Okay. But what I mean. I mean, I suppose that at the beginning of this interview. What is the, I mean, I suppose that you're, I suppose that you're,

going to say that the intent of your account is to shine light on things that actually just don't need to be shone light on at all. And as we saw from that interview that where you were exposed, you're not really, you know that you're not actually exposing anything. You're not actually presenting any new danger to anyone. You're just shouting sound bites and hoping that somehow they land and they go viral. So kindergarten teachers teaching their teaching four-year-olds that they could be transgender. I shouldn't expose that. Right. Is it really any of your business, though? Is it really actually hurting you or hurting any American citizen? I'm sorry. I think this is this is quite unfair. At the end of the day, I do think a lot of the things that have been exposed

by lives of TikTok are actually very valid, like what the kind of content children are consuming in schools, the kind of things they're exposed to, you know, questioning the justification of taking off people's limbs and different body parts, when you wouldn't do that for someone who's of rational mind. I think the problem that we tend to find is when you're fighting on a side, you tend to effectively choose the path of least resistance and just say things that will connect, but you don't particularly articulate it. So I'm assuming when you say things like we're importing the third world. And I'm assuming this is what you're saying.

You're talking about values. What kind of values are these people bringing into your country? Are they assimilating with the dominant culture? And I think these are valid points to make because over the last few years, we've seen millions of people across the southern border. They haven't been audited.

We don't know what values these people are bringing into the country. We don't even know who they are. These are valid points to make. And unfortunately, you don't get that opportunity to effectively articulate that properly when you're in doing short form interviews like this. So I think that's a perfectly valid point.

But to say that she's not exposing anything that's important, These are the kinds of things that will actually sway the next election. So people are concerned about it, and you should be concerned about it. I do. I mean, I know that they are important. I know that people are talking about it. It's because we ramp up all the time.

Look, I think that your comment about the third world. Not just because we ramp it up. It's because it matters. These are the people who are living. All right, let Eva respond. I think that we all know that that comment about the third world is so unnewance. It doesn't have any meaning to it. And you know that it's just baiting.

It's race baiting and it's stoking fear. And I mean, you're welcome to tell me. Tell me what the other intended purpose of that if it's not to do those things. Do you want to tell me? I think it's very important that we understand what could happen. What could happen? What could happen? Okay, what do you mean by the third world?

What exactly... Why don't you ask, you know, why don't you ask Lakin Riley's parents? Why don't you speak to them? I don't know who those people are. Okay, what do you mean when you say... You don't know who Laken Raleigh is? What do you mean by a legal alien? What do you mean by third world?

What does third world mean to you? What do you mean by it? I shouldn't be exposed to you? the sexualization of kids. Why are you answering a question with a question? Can you know, I mean, why don't you give us some polis? Hey, Pierce, I got a golf date with a panda on the moon. This is the problem.

They're arguing talking points. There's no conversation here. She's not a racist. She made a valid point. America, we're having a lot of problems in the streets. And if you're being honest and stuff, the people that are coming into the country in America, we're seeing a different trend.

It's a lot of young men, military age, in shape, not a lot of families, and young children. And we have a lot of problems with young men make bad decisions in this country. Men, let's just be, men are dangerous. Doesn't matter what color they are. Men without jobs, frustrated, in the inner cities, bad things happen. And you can say that. It doesn't matter whether they're white, brown, black, there's problems. And to go at her back and forth, the original question, this is a joke.

If you want to have an actual question, don't yell at her. If you want to meet her, then sit down and have a conversation. Lips of Tipcock is basically she took the simplest thing in the world. What is she guilty of? Retweeting somebody else's narrative. And when you take it out of the water and you put it up on the board and we all look at it, we giggle and go, wow, that was really dumb. And then research it.

She's not doing anything that any one of us is not already doing. The difference is, for whoever reason, when I retweet something like that has said that I think is silly or dumb, it did not blow up the way it is. What she's doing, it's her formula. If you don't like her, if you don't like what she stands for, that's fine. But have a conversation with her. You want to call her a racist, I'm not going to talk to a racist. So why are we even talking?

There's no point to this. Pierce, I love you. If we want to move on the next topic, but to listen to the people argue and have her called names, the waste of my time and everybody here. Okay, we're going to move on. I want to give the last word on this, though, to hire before we let you go. You've listened to a range of views here.

What's your final thought about all this? I think that the left just can't handle seeing what they themselves are saying. Their views do not hold up to scrutiny, and that's why they hate me so much. I'm very proud of the work I've done. I'm going to continue doing it. And, you know, people ask me, what's your end goal? And I'll tell you right now, my goal is to become irrelevant. My goal is to shut down, because that will mean that gender ideology has been eradicated from this country,

the extremely harmful and dangerous gender ideology, which leads to, kids to be mutilated and castrated, and the sexualization of kids is over. That's when I will know that my mission is complete, and I will shut down and move on. Hi, Richard. Thank you very much indeed for joining me. I appreciate it. Thank you. Well, let's move on to another topic, as Tyrus suggested. Another pretty incendiary one, actually. This is about a transgender murderer called Scarlet Blake,

who dissected a cat, placed its body in a blender just months before she was. She then stalked a male victim and killed him in cold blood. Now, it was reported by many media sites. This was a woman murderer, and that prompted JK Rowling, who's been very vocal about this whole transgender activism issue, to tweet, I'm so sick of this bleep. She said to her 14 million followers on X, this is not a woman.

These are hashtag not our crimes. And as always, she got a barrel. load of abuse back from the trans community. So let me start with you, Ava, on this. As a woman, do you not have a real problem with statistics now being artificially, and I would argue, as J.K. Relling has, completely disingenuously affected against women. So the murder rate will look like more women are committing horrific murder crimes than historically they've been doing because transgender killers now get categorized as women. I find the argument confusing because I don't care

if that murderer identified as a woman or is a woman. I care that she was a murderer. I mean, Rose West was a biologically born woman. I don't identify with her or want to protect her in anyway. Do you think that Scarlett Blake is a woman who committed that murder? Well, she said that she is a woman. I don't really think... And that's enough for you?

But it doesn't do anything for me. I don't really care. But it literally will change the statistics. I think it does matter. But she was a murderer. I think it does matter because it matters in how we view public policy and the way we craft

public policy. We know that 70% of transgender women in prison are in there for sexual offences, right, against biological women. And that matters. You're saying this person is just a statistic, but actually they paint a broader picture. This person is clearly a biological man

who has committed a heinous crime and in the name of women. That should have because it's fundamentally a fault. That's what gets me is that, Ava, you're all for women's rights, right to the point that something like this happens and you don't seem to care. But it's nothing to do. You don't care about trans women dominion females in sport.

You don't care about any of these issues. Because the point is, is that this woman has said that she is a woman and that doesn't have any bearing on the crime that she committed. Okay, it's sort of like, okay, so Shemima Beggeman, for example, okay? When she went off and she committed acts of terror, we decided that she wasn't going to be British anymore. And a lot of people were very upset about that because you said, you can't change someone's citizenship. You can't change someone's nationality. That's something that is a lot easier than gender. And then this is how I would, I would say this is the same situation.

Just because this person has done a heinous crime, doesn't mean they're no longer women. All right, let me bring in. Well, there were never a woman to begin with it. Let me bring in Tyrus. It's been sitting patiently on this. I mean, Tyrus, this plays into this whole issue of transgender. It's the grouping. It's, it's transgender, black, alien, Mars doesn't matter, murderer, serial murderer. Whatever accoutreman or whatever nickname or pronoun this individual had is out the window once he took the life of the victim. The victim's nicknames, the victim's name, the victim's culture should all be talking about. Instead, because whether

they're transgendered or not, and like I said, it's that grouping. It's so bad here in America, Because with grouping, you can get away with all kinds of stuff and blanket stuff and then take away from the actual issue is this individual does not represent trans people. He does not represent the gate community. I take issue with that because it matters. He represents himself. He chose. Hold on.

I listened to you talk for seven, what's felt like a year. Give me my 30 seconds and you guys can have the segment. This individual is the only thing we should be focused on. You shouldn't know his name. We shouldn't know what he looks like. He should get no press. He can't be made into a martyr. And two, he shouldn't be bringing down the group that he claimed

because he doesn't represent the trans community. No one in the trans community wants to walk around killing people. But I've noticed, in my community, if I decided to kill Pierce for bringing me into this fight today, I'm not representing black community. I'm represented pissed off Tyrus to went after Pierce. But interestingly. I just have me black.

But I love you and I won't. I know you work out still. You actually could kill me with your bare hands. I've actually been close enough to you to know that. But I'm just saying, if I right now lost my mind and did something, I'm not doing it on behalf of Black America. No, I understand that, but you would go down. I'm doing it because Tyrus did it.

Let me respond, though. That's the position. Leave the other stuff out, and let's have a real conversation about the individual. No, I get that, but he doesn't represent anybody. Let me, let me respond to that. So here's where I think there's a slight flaw in that argument, which is you say, okay, if you commit a murder, it's not about your skin color, whatever.

But it would go down in statistics that a black, black man had committed a murder, right? So say, for example, it should be the statistics. Statistics are not open to feelings. Feelings are pretty lies we tell ourselves to feel better about. The facts of the statistics is a man killed it. But this is the whole point. Wouldn't be. I'm with you. I'm with you. He should be. You've called this person repeatedly. If he's sitting down and he still has a penis, Morgan, he needs to go down as a man. He He's a biological man. In the stats, it's off biology.

But that is J.K. Rowling's, that's J.K. Rowling's argument. No, she doesn't have an argument. She's making a factual statement. And she's getting yelled at for it. It's not an argument. She's not breaking the mold here. She didn't drop something. This isn't Harry Potter, some new magic spell she dropped on us.

It's been, we all know this. We all, we're all adults in the room. We know what a man is and knows it look like. We know what a woman is and looks like. It's just these stupid narratives and trying to fall into whatever side you want But should it go down, Taurus, the key point, though, is should it go down as a crime statistic that a woman committed this heinous crime or a man? The stats statistic should say his height, weight, gender, and the time of murder. That's it.

Who cares about who he was as a person? He's lost that right once he took someone else's life. All we care about is making sure that justice is served and he gets put away for whatever they do, whatever you guys do over there. I don't think you guys do the death sentence anymore. So whatever's over there. But in the stats, no name, just the facts, Jack. And he was born. They checked M for male on his birth certificate.

That's what you are. His feelings is irrelevant. Okay. In my opinion. All right. It's an interesting debate. And I actually agree with that. I agree with J.K. Rowling.

If I was a woman, I'm not, obviously. I'm not declaring myself as a woman today. Maybe tomorrow I will feel like one. And according to David Santina, I can just feel like one and be one. I think that is what you said, actually. says. This person decides their woman, that's it. I just think it's correct to say that once you have taken someone else's life, you lose all right to your, you know, your personhood.

And you know, you shouldn't be made a martyr. And I think by having this conversation, having this debate, and J.K. Roning blowing it up the way that she did. I think that we've actually been focusing on it and hemmed in on it. And you've actually, you have made a martyr out of this person now. Not at all. No, the martyrdom was done when they said that this person... Because imagine if you're the sort of person that loves, you know,

loves the line, loves being in the spotlight. This is exactly what you wanted. They're probably in prison. I think most people take an issue with... This person is in a male prison, actually, as it turned out. I just said it in prison. So it goes down as a woman murderer who's now languishing in a male prison, which to me exposes the absurdity of the whole thing.

Anyway, let's move on. I want to play a clip. This is about Mary Poppins, of course, has now been deemed racist. Let's take a look. Oh, you, sir. Cheese your devils! So, this is about the word hot and tots, which in South Africa has been...

deemed a prescribed world which can no longer be used. Colonizers of South Africa use the term to refer to the indigenous, Koki people, and it's now considered derogatory. And in their ruling, the people who reclassified it is a PG movie rather than a use. You've got to have parental guidance that way the kids can watch it. So we understand from our racism and discrimination research and recent classification guidelines that a key concern for people, parents in particular, it's the potential to expose children

to discriminatory language or behavior which they may find distressing or repeat without realizing the potential offence. So let's bring in Taras on this. There are lots of these movies going back in the last 80 years which will contain words which by today's definition

would be deemed offensive. Should we be recategorizing everything over a movie like Mary Poppins? No. I think we're just brittle. I think we're softer than a hard-boiled egg. Yeah, of course, Mary Poppins is racist. I remember watching it as a child, and I'm going,

my gosh, spoonful of sugars for breakfast. Listen, this is as stupid as it gets. The movie was made in a time period, and I guess nobody has parents anymore or an uncle or a grand. And if they were singing it and they said it, Like, hey, what's that word? Because guess what? Americans' movies got some bad words in it.

And sometimes, as best as a parent can do, they're going to say something, they're going to ask you a question. And this is the part as an adult, you say, oh, that was a bad word that was used, and we don't use that word anymore. So we don't say that. So if you hear someone saying that, let Daddy know right away and we'll deal with it. That's how we used to deal with things. Now we got a label Mary Poppins as a racist. Did she also have a swastika? Is that why the umbrella flew?

I mean, it's stupid. Like this is, we are so safe, apparently, that we have time to go back and pick on Mary Poppins. You want to pick on Mary Poppins? Pick on the sequel. How dare they? Even though Angela Lansbury was in there at the end, the real star was not there. And so, therefore, boo. Let's talk about that. Okay.

We have so much time in our hands. And we're so safe that we can meet Mary Poppins, down with Poppins. The song End Words in Paris by Jay-Z and Kanye West went platinum. It was one of the most successful songs that he is. And for some reason, they don't have, it doesn't have trigger warnings. You can sing the N word with impunity. There is no American rapper today that doesn't use the N word. And there's, I don't see people clutching their pearls.

I don't see, you know, exactly. I don't, well, accept him. But I don't see, I don't see trigger warnings on all these rappers that use clearly racially derogatory language. But for some reason, they can go back and comb through the archives of history and find the racist things in Mary Poppins, which was appropriate for its time. This is what people don't. Well, it reminds me, Ava.

It reminds me of when they, when John Legend took it upon himself to rewrite the lyrics to baby it's cold outside because clearly it wasn't the innocent flirtatious thing we thought it was the video from the movie. It was actually a clear sexual assault. And so he rewrote all the lyrics. He's never rewritten any lyrics for any of his rap friends who write about the most appalling misogyny. Right. So there's, again, a rank hypocrisy there. But on Barry Poppins, does anyone even know what Hot and Tots is? Does anybody ever ask? I didn't know. I didn't know about this scandal until I read that they were having to reclassify them about why? I hadn't heard about it before either, but I would actually like to pick up on something.

I was too afraid that the only job I could get was cleaning chimneys if I didn't get my grades up. That's what I was afraid. I just, Tyrus, I'm a little bit confused because a couple of moments ago, we were talking about gender ideology and you were talking about the books that lives of TikTok wanted to ban or wanted to have, you said you don't want to ban them, but you'd like to see sort of warnings on them about explicit content. I'm just wondering, why would you want explicit content warnings on those sort of books. But then when it comes to this, you're saying that everyone is too soft and it should be parents in the room who should just tell you not to feel the way that you do.

If there's explicit warnings on it, because if there's explicit warning on the books at the library, then the children will need parent permission to check them out. So instead of just, or a teacher, or guess what, there's not always good people in the schools or an adult to be giving those types of books to children. So if you're going to have a book in a child's presence or unsupervised children are in the library, it'd be nice to have one section in the library for adult content books or sexual... Now, is that not the argument that they're making about Mary Poppins?

So, Mary Poppins wasn't talking about getting it on with the old man in the bathtub with a sex team. I don't think that there are any children's books that are specifically. Guess what? Oh, but there are. So if the chimney thing would have been something different. So this is what you do. And like I said, I said earlier, I don't know you.

You know you better. You're trying to bring, you can't make the argument, so you try to bring in something else. Like, gotcha. Yeah, there's, life is different. I know. It must be very frustrating to have your argument pulled apart. It was fun. It was a musical movie.

It's different than somebody's life story. But just to be clear here, so you would like trigger warnings on gender ideology. Parents aren't present in school. If parents could be in school, it wouldn't be an issue. Right. Parents aren't at school to see what books their children's are getting. I think your arguments fall in a section. Or a letter sent home.

home to parents saying, we're going to be having this book talking about this stuff. Are you okay with that? The movies you usually watch with your family. So there are two different subjects, but I guess you're running out of time. Okay. You know what? I think this debate. Hopefully, I'm bringing in something else. Call me, maybe I can be a toxic, masculine, alpha male, right supremacist. But I didn't say anything like that about you. You asked for a real conversation and then I offer you a real conversation and you just talk over me. So I mean, what's the point? I want war war two with death pictures in it. I want boxing pictures with blood in it to let the parents know what their kids are reading. God forbid. This actually reminds

me that we need to know what our kids are reading. This debate reminds me of Julie Andrews and Dick Van Dyke bickering on Mary Poppins. I actually really like this dynamic. There's only one Mary Poppins and it's just putting that out there. This is a super-califragilistic, expialidocious debate. And I'm loving the dynamic, Taras, and you and Ava. I think we have to repeat this. Oh, anytime. Thank you. Listen, it's been great to have you, Torres, as always. Thank you, Ava.

Thank you, Esther. Interesting debates today. Thanks for having me on. I enjoyed it. Thank you.