Piers Morgan Uncensored - ‘It Was BRUTALITY’ Milo Yiannopoulos Deported - Exclusive Interview | Nancy Mace CONFRONTED Over AIPAC & Gaza

Episode Date: September 1, 2026

Controversial Breitbart editor and MAGA firebrand Milo Yiannopoulos joins Piers Morgan Uncensored after he was detained by ICE in New Orleans and sent back to the UK for overstaying his visa. While border chief Tom Homan says it's a simple case of due process, others - including Laura Loomer - claim credit for reporting him after he allegedly turned on President Trump.  Is this a case of politicized justice, or has the "Milo Show" finally reached its end? Then; joining us to react to Milo’s interview and discuss the Lindsay Clancy trial is Rep Nancy Mace, The Young Turks’ Ana Kasparian and conservative commentators Carrie Prejean-Boller and Tiffany Smiley. Piers Morgan Uncensored is proudly independent and sponsored by: Coveron: One scam can cost you everything - protect yourself now, first 100 users get 20% off with code PIERS at https://coveron.com/piers (00:00) Introduction (03:36) Milo Yiannopoulos exclusive interview on his deportation from the US (14:00) On Laura Loomer’s role in his deportation  (26:10) Piers challenges Milo over his previous comments about ICE  (30:00) Milo on Kanye and others’ “support” for him  (38:39) Panel reacts to the Milo interview (43:10) Carrie Prejean-Boller calls out Mace over AIPAC funding and genocide (46:21) Heated debate about the Lindsay Clancy case (01:00:21) Nancy Mace on the reaction to her tattoos Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

As you sit here now, of course. You know, looking not a broken man, but a pretty beaten up guy. Was it worth it? I didn't really understand the physical reality of how institutionalized the brutality is in America. They put your manacles, your hands, your feet, chain it together. I mean, like, everybody is arrested as like an MS-13 gang member. I know what it feels like to be really, really terrified.

And I would really love it if Nancy Mace right now on this panel could come out and talk about the genocide that is happening in Gaza. I mean, she's taken over $100,000 from APEC over her career. I would really love for you to call it a genocide right here, right now. I think it was about $138,000 and clearly it wasn't enough. Will you condemn the murder of Lindsay Clancy's children? When you condemn murder, murderous moms? Welcome back to Pierce Morgan Uncensor.

We've got a lot to discuss. President Trump has threatened to escalate U.S. attacks on Iran for weeks. Now he has, but only with an AI video. and the juries are liberating the harrowing trial of child killer Lindsay Clancy. We'll begin with the return to the UK of a highly controversial figure who has for years manipulated the media against his enemies while facing claims of attention-seeking narcissism. No, I'm not talking about Prince Harry.

Milo Yanopoulos was deported from the US over the weekend after being detained at an airport in New Orleans by ICE and border chief Tom Homan said this. He overstayed his visa. I believe his visitor visa, but I'm sure. But he overstayed the visa. He was ordered to appear in immigration court. He didn't show up. The judge ordered him deported. So once ICE gets an order deportation from a federal judge, their job should execute that order.

And that's what they did. He had his due process, ordered removed by a federal judge, and ICE removed them. Is that simple? Well, it's that simple, says Tom Holman, but many believe there's much more to it. Homeland Security made an extraordinary point of publicizing his arrest and releasing this pretty unflattering mugshot. the right-wing commentator Laura Luma, the close confidant of the president and who Milo used to work with, is taking all the credit.

She posted this. I was the first person to report on the fact that Milo was in the US illegally, where he incited violence against President Trump and worked for Marjorie Traitor Green. Recently, Candice Owens invited of his illegal alien into her home, when Milo called for me to be assassinated,

I reported them to ICE and the FBI. Milo's going to be deported back to the UK where he can live a month, the Muslims he's recently chosen to embrace. Today is a great day for America. But it is minor association with the controversial conservatives. He recently turned against the president, which many believe led to his removal from the US.

As editor of Breitbart, he was an early supporter of Trump's first presidency and a significant MAGA media personality. More recently, he's worked with figures like Kanye Yeh West and Marjorie Taylor Green, while accusing Trump and betraying his base over issues like the Epstein scandal and Israel. Some think he's a victim of selective politicised justice.

Others are enjoying the irony of a deportation cheerleader himself being deported. Either way, most people believe this might be the end of the Milo show, but does he? Well, Milo Unopoulos is yet to say anything publicly, but he's here in the uncensored studio, in London, where he's been forced to come back to. Milo, well, first of all, how are you? I don't think I've ever been afraid before. like I was the last week. Maybe I've lived in especially posited and cosseted life,

but I think for the first time I know what it feels like to be really, really terrified. What were you terrified of? Well, I'd like to get to some of the claims that were made by Homan in a moment, but I didn't really understand the physical reality of how institutionalized the brutality is in America. The manner in which they arrest you,

they put your manacles, your hands, your feet, chain it together. I mean, like, everybody is arrested is like an MS-13 gang member, and it hurts a lot more than it looks like on television. You know, I was put from, you know, detention facility to a correction facility. You know, every three hours, they were sort of trying to keep ahead of my lawyers,

so I couldn't, you know, whatever. But no one would tell me anything. thing. It was it I mean I know it's designed to be like that but it's it was sure it was humiliating and it was disorientating the rest of it was physically degrading. It was frightening. It was frightening and I don't think I've ever been frightened like that before. How emotional have you been through this period? I've never been like this before. I I tripped and kind of tumbled down the stairs a night or two ago and you know I'm a clumsy person so that it's not the rarest in the world, but it set something off from when I'd been kind of, you know, shoved down a couple of steps.

And I was weeping like an old woman for an hour. And I was like, oh, I really have got to get this out of my system. I think maybe in the past I've been a little bit, a little bit blaze when people talked about their trauma, a little bit kind of cavalier when people talked about, you know, stuff kind of lingering with them. But I get it now. and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. The thing that astonishes me, I have to say, is to see the various bits of the American government,

all the machinery of the government, kind of lining up to lie in the manner that Tom Homan just did. I mean, I want to be completely clear with you and with your viewers, like, I manage... I don't really do, you know, the right-wing provocateur thing anymore. I manage lawyers for a living. You know, I'm pretty organized and together a person when I'm not being silly on Twitter.

And I'm married to an American. no reason I would take a risk like this. I didn't need to have a visa. There were dozens of companies who could have sponsored me, and I married to an American. I didn't. Well, okay, so let's just get to some cold, hard facts about this,

which obviously other people will be able to verify at some state. So you're a UK citizen, right? I am. So you were in America under what kind of visa? Well, I entered legally under an 01 visa, which is the... Yeah, I've had one. I'm sure you have one too. And in the course of...

Which actually they call you an exceptional alien, is the way they described that. Alien of extraordinary ability. Right. So congratulations. It always makes me laugh. So you were there. When was that legal to?

In other words, when did it expire? So I've had a couple of them, and the last one I think would have expired in 2019. But long before that happened, in 2017, I got married to an American. So I filed for an adjustment of status, basically to switch tracks from a visa to a green. And that's what I did.

Went to the interviews and that's what I had. But... And you got a green card? Yes. But when... So if you have a green card, on what basis have they thrown you out of the country? They sent notices to an address they knew I didn't live at anymore. Two addresses ago in Florida, almost 10 years ago, in order to get an in absentia hearing,

which is basically they show up with a judge, they tell the judge, you didn't show up, you didn't respond to the notices, and they ask the judge to give them a... you know, an order. That's what happened. They had previously cancelled my work permit without telling me. They excluded my lawyer, and the ICE agents who arrested me in Louisiana told me this. I don't know if they were supposed to, but they told me that my lawyer had been deliberately excluded. And I said, well, how do you even know that I have one? He said, because I've got his name and phone number right here, but they didn't send him the notices. And they didn't send you the notices. They sent him to an address you don't live at. When you get served with this stuff from immigration, it doesn't come by FedEx or a process server.

you know, like in your hand or anything like that. They just mail it. And if they mail it to an address you don't live at, they can have a whole... That may not have been deliberate. They could just be an admin error. But I'd had notices from the... Not just from, you know,

some vague immigration-related, you know, a bit of the government, from the precise agency department that sent these notices that had notices at two new addresses. Of course I had. Because I've been giving them my address. Is your green car still valid?

No, because they cancelled it without telling me. When? That I don't know. But I did. In what period of time could it have been cancelled? Well, it must have been cancelled sometime in the last year. And you presume we... Have you travelled to and from America?

I happened not to have done the last year. When was the last time you entered America? Probably two years ago. Two years ago. I think so. And you came from where? I wasn't here. I think probably Europe.

Maybe, maybe... I want to say Hungary or... Okay, but you entered... I don't recall on this thing, but... But you entered not using an 01 visa, but using the green card? Right, but they... Is that right? Yes, that's correct.

And you were allowed in? Yes, and I had my little green card. They took all of those things from me when they arrested me. How long is the green card valid for? Well, you can either get it for two or ten years. What did you have it for? So I had two years, and I was renewing on a two-year basis. And was that, and was it...

Had that elapsed? No, no, I had not. had not because because look so your contention just to be clear my love is that your green card yes was still valid at the point that you were deported well no because i think they cancelled it without telling me in what period of time that i don't know yet i've asked for my complete file i've asked for my complete records i don't know if i'll even get them but everything about what happened was very very off and you know in my life i've been you know called a right-wing conspiracy theorist and all the rest of it so i'm not going to you know i'm going to try to keep this like as sane

and sober as I can. Well, the point is they'll be watching this interview, so anything you say which they can contradict with evidence, they're likely to do. Why would I lie? It's going to make it even more difficult for me to get back to see my family, back to see my pets, my... So what family do you have back in America at the moment?

Your wife? Well, I'm married to an American. I've got dependents. I've got cats. I've got, you know, I've got employees. I have a whole life there. I've been there for 10 years. You know, everything is there.

You're married to an American woman? No. Man? I don't know primes of sexuality, but I know you've, I mean, you're a gay man and you're married to a gay man? Yes, I don't. I don't do the sex stuff anymore, but yes. Okay, listen, I'm only asking because I just want to know what family you have left in America. Yeah.

Where is your spouse? Living in the same house at the other end of the corridor. In which state is this? This is in California. In California, in L.A.? Yes. Right. And so they had to talk.

wait until I left California to kind of scoop me up. And everything about this is peculiar because, you know, the guys who arrested me, they said, they didn't tell your lawyer about this. And they told me, the ICE agents that picked me up in Louisiana, they said three of the five notices they sent were returned to send it, address the unknown. So the government knew I wasn't there. The government knew I wasn't getting these things. It knew that I had no idea what was happening.

And they did this anyway. And then when they did it, the way they did it, you know, they, I mean, this was faster, rougher and nastier than perhaps any deportation. So when was the first you heard that you were going to be deported? When I got off the plane in Louisiana. When was that? Thursday night. Right.

For a work trip. And you'd had no warning at all? Absolutely nothing. So you'd get off a plane from Louisiana to L.A. I've never even been arrested before. I've never been in trouble with the police. I'm a, you know, I have a big mouth, and I know that. And I say a lot of things that, you know, that upset people.

But I don't break the law. I'm not a violent person. I'm not a thief. And I'm very careful about my paperwork precisely because, you know, I've got a gob on me. And I don't want to give people, you know, easy routes in. You know, I don't want to give people easy ways to get at me that aren't necessary. The first I heard of it was when 15 agents swarmed me at Louisiana airport, and it didn't get any less theatrical from there on.

I was moved. I didn't eat for 24 hours. I was promised to, you know, a nurse that never came. I promised a phone call that never came. I was promised all kinds of things that never came. I mean, you know, just about everything that you hear that people are supposed to have, as far as rights and abilities when they get arrested, I did not have. Nobody would tell me anything.

And they're really telling detail for me, is that two of the ICE agents during this process recognized me from 2016 when I was a big supporter of the president. And one of them said something along the lines of, yeah, I'm not doing this. And the other one said something along the lines of, this is not what I got into this for. And at least one of them, and I think two of them, walked off the job because they didn't want to do it. And another pairing of vice agents who took me to the airport in Houston told me that they were getting calls from Washington every 20 minutes. Like, where is he? Where is he? Where is he? This was not a normal, lawful process.

You know, if I overstayed and if I had messed up, there would have been a process. I would have been arrested. But I mean, what's being reported is that you overstayed. a visa, obviously if you're a green card holder married to an American citizen, that gives you a completely different status to stay in the country. Married in September 2017 in Hawaii. But the point is this, even if their story was true, there's an opportunity before they take you anywhere else for you to have a lawyer, to file a motion, to ask for your for your case to be reopened, to say, sorry, I didn't see the notices. I didn't know, Your Honor, I apologize. Can you at least hear me out? And chances are, in those circumstances, if you've ever stayed, you get deported anyway. But none of those things... Right. And you believe the motivation for this is political.

And in fact, we don't need to be, you know, Hercule Praro to work out who may have been the instigator because the instigator has proudly claimed credit. It's Laura Luma, who's this pretty bonkers character in America on the pretty far right, who has an extraordinary influence over Donald Trump. and who posted this on X, breaking illegal alien Milo Yanopoulos, had been detained by ICE. I was the first person to report on the fact that Milo was in the US illegally,

where he incited violence against President Trump and worked for Marjorie Tele Green. Recently, Candice Owens invited this illegal alien into her home, when Milo called for me to be assassinated, I reported him to ICE and the FBI. I told you all that Milo was an illegal alien. He was detained in Louisiana by ICE. Milo is going to be deported back to the UK,

among the Muslims. He's recently chosen to embrace today. It's a great day of America. So I read that earlier, and it's worth recounting her words, because let's just go through her claims in this post. One is that you incited violence against President Trump and worked for Marjorie Telly Green. Now, what is she getting at? I don't see how they're connected. So what is she getting at by the incitement of violence against Trump? I don't really know. I certainly don't recall ever doing that. I don't think that I ever did that. That sounds like a crazy thing to do. Do you have opposed anything threatening, or it could be?

be taken threatening? No, I've certainly posted things that are insulting. Like what? You know, I probably called him a fat ginger idiot. I've probably called him, you know, a traitor. Not a traitor, but I probably called him a, you know, somebody who's betrayed his base. I've probably said that he's a coward.

But none of that rises, you know, remotely to the level of a threat of violence. I think what she's stringing these things together for is, you know, I'm not the first person. on the American right, and particularly not the first person on the kind of, you know, populist centre right, early fans of Trump, to be, to put it mildly, deeply disillusioned with the way that his, you know...

No, I mean, Candice is one, Tucker Carlson's other, Marjorie Taylor Green, Thomas Massey. Of course, I've interviewed many of these people. Of course, I've interviewed many of them. And some of them are, I'm sure you're friends. So, you know, I'm very safely and squarely in the mainstream of that particular kind of blob of people. I don't know what those two things have.

At the centre of this, you believe that they cancelled your green card without you being made aware of this. And that as a consequence, they could now legitimately claim because you had no current green card that you were there illegally and they used that as a pretext to deport you. Is that what you're saying? I don't know any other explanation for I can't come to any other conclusion. And, you know, I keep coming back.

to some of the things that do stick out from this experience, which is, you know, these ice agents did not want to do this. It was clear that they, you know, that they didn't want to do a lot of what they were doing. Well, many people are seeing it, you know, who are defending you. It's interesting, who's defending you and who isn't. There's been a deafening silence from a lot of the people I might have expected to defend you. And I'm interested in your reaction to that. But other people actually on the left... Well, people on the left have come forward, interestingly, who don't even like that.

and to say that this is a disturbing infringement potentially of your First Amendment rights to free speech, that you're being punished for your views of Donald Trump and the Trump administration and so on. And that Laura Luma, who is extremely devoted to President Trump and in his ear all the time, has used your association with Candace Owens and with Marjorie Taylor Green and others, has decided to basically shut you up by sending you back to the UK. I don't know how we can come to any other conclusion. This is not how immigration systems are supposed to work. And there are, you know, seven, eight, nine things that are supposed to happen

that do for everybody else that didn't in my case because they were so anxious to just throw me on a plane because they know how much more difficult it gets once you know, once you... But, you know, I've very good lawyers, and they do not believe this will stand at all. I don't think the Miami judge who handed this order down had any idea what they were up to and what they were going to use his order to do.

And judges typically take a pretty dim view of being used like that. We've seen that with the FISA courts and other examples. And I think maybe, you know, I might ask that judge, you know, without giving too much away about my legal strategy, you know, to do me a solid and to help me out a little bit because I think it's quite obvious that the government has maliciously and deviously in a very underhanded way, you know, created a scenario in which they could scoop me up and eject me

to make an example out of me sort of overnight. But the manner in which they did it is as far as I can see, quite clearly unlawful and not how an immigration system is supposed to work. And again, I didn't do it. I didn't do it. If I'd overstay it, fair enough.

But even if I had, things are supposed to happen in a particular order, you know, justice is supposed to be done. People are supposed to have their rights. You know, people are supposed to be able to be heard. And now of that happened. In fact, they lied to me in writing. They lied to my lawyers over the phone.

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I didn't really know her then. We were an acquaintance. I was going to be her communications director. It was clear after a couple of weeks there was something very, very wrong with her. She's the kind of person who ordinarily is more of a danger to themselves than to others, but unfortunately she's fallen into this kind of, you know, symbiotic, you know, sort of toxic relationship with Trump where he can't get enough of her obsequious toadying praise,

and she can't get enough of, you know, the clout from the proximity. And so I think he, you know, allows her to run riot because he, you know, likes anybody who praises him, especially, I guess, these days, because they're pretty few and far between. I don't want to get into the specifics of this. You know, I... Let me just finish my point.

Because of the defamation law in the UK, where we're doing this interview, we have to be careful. But, you know, my understanding is that you accused her of something when you were working with her in relation to another staff member, which I don't want you to discuss in detail because we don't have any way of corroborating it. But do you believe that this may then be a sort of payback

for what you tried to do that? Well, because I saw that there was something very seriously wrong with her. I was one of the people who, you know, made sure that Trump did not endorse her the second time when she ran for Congress the second time. So, I mean, if she's got a grudge about that, fair enough. I don't think, look, I find it difficult in a way to hold anything against her because I don't think she's well. And whenever the Laureluma show comes crashing down, as I'm sure it will, any moment, I think she's going to need a lot of prayer and she's going to need a lot of, you know, she's going to need a lot of the people that she's really burned.

I may not find time in my diary to send her a loving note. But that is a, I have to say, and I've spoken to, you know, mutual friends of ours and, you know, other people in Washington about the fact that, you know, this administration seems to have, seems to have kind of devolved into the Lumer admin. To think that the promise and hope and joy and anticipation of Trump 2016 could sort of, you know, over the course of 10 years, collapse into this ugly, warmongering, you know, taken as a whole mentally ill heap of crazy, with some of the most, you know, unstable and, you know, lunatic people, seemingly directing the president's actions. If I had any clue that anything remotely like this, you know,

was even possible, I would never have got involved in supporting Trump in the first place. Trump in the first place, and I'm very ashamed that I did. I want to play you a clip. This is from Ben Shapiro, no great friend of yours, who, well, he's basically trampling on your deportation grave. Let's take a look. This guy, this one, why he was hanging around in the United States for so long, nobody really understands was he have benefits of the United States? As long as we're revoking H-1B visas, it seems to me that there's no special talent visa applicable for Milo Unopolis. We have plenty of

nut jobs here in the United States. We don't need more. What's your reaction to Ben Shapiro? Well, I've written a lot more New York Times bestsellers than he has. So, you know, as far as extraordinary ability goes, you know, let's not punch down. When he calls you a decrepit pervert and scuzz bucket, as he did in his lengthy tirade, what do you feel of that? Ben has been very upset for a very long time because when I started to start. started to become popular way back in 2016. And Ben was, you know, juicing his numbers and, you know, paying for it, you know, like they do in America, you know, the influence are kind of, you know, astroturfing all the rest of it.

And I was just sailing past him in, in every way, completely organically. You know, he couldn't really understand why. He's one of those people that, you know, one of those terminal mediocrities that can't really understand the difference between them and the talented people and just sort of sits and fumes and froths. and, you know, occasionally tries to sort of engage with him and then has to eject him out of, you know, out of rage. And Vime, he did the same thing with Candace. You know, Ben has become, well, Ben became somewhat wealthy and somewhat influential by being, you know,

a nasty, dark, slippery person behind the scenes. I think everyone's kind of got the measure of him now. And, you know, sorry to hear his organization's doing so poorly, but if he's very cross about something, it should be the state of physics. his P&L. That's not me. The criticism against you is a charge of hypocrisy because people say, well, look, you spent a lot of time

supporting publicly ICE being very aggressive with deportations. On January 2nd, 2025, you posted punishing Somalis indiscriminately as a group and deported them all as the only way this administration would persuade the voters. It is serious enough of a job. And then again in May 25, there's one congress. We must insist on this administration delivering. It matters a lot more than debts, measured in imaginary money. We're going to deport millions and millions of people.

Without that, nothing else matters. In September 2025, total legal immunity for ICE agents when they're on duty. And 21st of September, 2025, justice system should be just ice. So there you are aggressively promoting ICE being very aggressive and demanding that millions of people be deported. People say, Milo, you've been hoisted by your own partard. And I don't have a word to say. You got me.

I'm very... Look. I mean, they're doing what you told them to do. Deport millions of people. Well, not really. It just happened to include you. They're not doing it lawfully. And I think...

But you did say about Somalis, they should be deported indiscriminately. Well, I'm obviously exaggerating. Deporting them all. Obviously exaggerating there. I think another tweet, I said something like, you know, we shouldn't let the 97% of Somalis, you know, create a bad reputation.

for the law-abiding 3%. I tell all kinds of mean-spirited, exaggerated jokes. Right, but the point is that ISIS is supposed to be deporting criminals. They're supposed to be prioritizing people who come in illegally, who sell people, who murder, who rape, who sell drugs, who they're not doing that. I get it. The problem you have, I think, in these tweets and public statements is that you weren't singling out Somali criminals, for example, or just criminals.

you wanted Somalis as a group, all deported. You said them. You said that. I was, look, when the... Can't deny saying it. No, of course not. I'm not... So the argument against you goes,

well, Milo, you know, you didn't care about Somalis being legally or illegally there. You wanted them all thrown out. I'm generalizing about groups that have rampant criminality. I don't think British ghostwriters are an especially egregiously violent group of people. But yes, it is true that, you know, the majority of Somalis in Minnesota are in some way connected with the fraud there. Yes, it is true that there are some demographic kind of tendencies or, you know, in the statistics about violent crime and sexual crime and stuff in America.

If ICE were doing its job and clearing America out of the people who rape, kill, murder, and sell drugs and a couple of extra people got caught up in the dragnet, and if I was one of them, nobody would have very much to say. But they're not doing that. They're not doing that. When I was taken in, something struck me really remarkable. I was in three different ICE detention facilities. Do you know what I saw?

Do you know what the kind of people that I saw in the cells next to me? Nobody. There was nobody there. I was the only person in the entire facility three times in a row because they're not doing the job, they're not doing anything. The ICE agents all have lovely, brand new vehicles. They've all got gorgeous new Infinity and Chevrolet, you know, what do you call it, SUVs. They've got great uniforms, great equipment, but every single one of those facilities I was taken to, every one, I was put in a huge line of cells in which there was nobody.

That seems to me an argument for deporting more people like here. Well, I don't think like me, but maybe deporting more people in general. Are you bemused, annoyed, upset by the deafening silence from people on the alt-right that you might expect to be supported publicly? Steve Bannon, for example. Candice Owens, Nick Fuentes. No, no, Candice. They've been pretty noticeable by their public silence.

Candace is, you know, you don't always know what people reach out to say and do privately. Publicly, I mean. No. Why are they not supporting you publicly? I honestly haven't seen who hasn't on Twitter. It's not something that's ever bothered me. I mean, look, the kinds of, I would call it comedy, maybe you would have a different word for it, the kinds of commentary and tweets that I have been publishing

for the better part of 15 years now, don't make you a lot of friends. And it's never a shock to me when I get myself into hot water that everybody kind of backs away quite. What about, what about Yale? West. I'm looking for that. My boss and his wife were just worried that I was okay.

So he has contacted you? Of course. He phoned you, he texted you? We were in touch and... Texted you? Yes, and I've been back to work for two days. For him? Yeah, of course.

So you're working for Yeave? That's my full-time job, yeah. How would you describe her job from? Well, I manage as lawyers, which I can do from anywhere. But, you know, that you might... Does Yee think you think of you? it's a miscarriage of justice that you've been deported? I didn't ask for his opinion on the subject.

I was really just expressing my regret that it was a distraction and irritation for him and reassuring him that I'd be back to work and he was happy that I was all right and that was it. You've been obviously very associated with the MAGA movement, with Trump, with the alt-right and so on. And some people, you know, are sympathetic to you for what's happened to you.

So you've just basically been chewed up and spat out by the very people that you were, in many cases, instrumental in making more popular and making more money. Do you feel that? I mean, do you feel like... That's true, but that's a decision I made

because I decided to be the one to say it first. And I decided to be the one to be the furthest out there. I decided to be the one to be the most outrageous. And I decided to be the one to, you know, mentor and to, you know, germinate So I never, I never like to see people whinge about getting what they ask for. And if you are a provocateur in public life and you get banned from things and you get blacklisted from things and people say nasty things.

And then when you're in trouble, people go quiet. I don't think you, like, it's kind of a bad look, you know. If you get under people's skin for a living, to make a political point, you know, for a higher purpose, we hope, most of the time. And then, you know, and then you squeal and and cry, play the victim, when people don't rush to your aid. I think that's pretty pathetic. I hate to see that. I hope that I never do that.

And I try and do that. That's a decision I made. This that we're talking about today is not a decision I made. In fact, you know, as I just mentioned, I manage lawyers for a living. I'm married to an American. There is no reason on earth I would have allowed a situation to, to emerge. Are you going to sue the administration, the Department of Homeland Security? How are you going to play this?

Well, they did not allow for the proper, lawful appeals procedure to be followed. So I'm going to start with that. And we'll see how we go. And we'll see how the Miami judge feels when they are fully apprised of exactly what went down in the run-up to that order being issued. and what they did with that order afterwards, because I don't think that judge is going to be very happy. And so I'm going to pursue the orderly, lawful appeals process

and see where that leads, and we'll see where we are after that. But I don't believe this will stand. I have a family. I have a home. I have employees. I have two very gorgeous little Bengal cats. I've got a whole life, a whole life. And I'm not going to allow a very frightening and politically motivated, you know, weekend of hell

to rip my whole life away from me. I'm sorry, I'm not going to. Some would say, Milo, that you've been an enthusiastic supporter of a movement which has attracted a lot of white supremacists, anti-women people, anti-Semites, racist and so on, the whip-up political discourse for traction, for clicks, for money, and so on. And now all your chickens have come home to root. I'm not to get into all the things you've said to inflammatory.

I don't think that's fair. No, my only question was this. Was it worth it? I mean, if you look back at the whole arc of what's happened, as you sit here now, of course. You know, looking not a broken man, but a pretty beaten up guy. Was it worth it?

I'm a very successful millionaire. I'm okay. Like, I'm all right. I'm just not in the country that I choose to live in. I'm all right. You know, like I'm not a refugee from a war zone. I had a frightening weekend, right? And I'm going to fix the situation. fix a situation that happened that was unjust and wrong, but I'm not, you know, I have a pretty, I have it pretty good.

Yes, it was worth it because it's always worth it to tell the truth and I, you know, I think sometimes, you know, I get characterized as the as the, you know, but sometimes I am the ringleader and sometimes I'm not, but if you go back to the things that I was writing about the alt-right in sort of 2016, it wasn't a, it wasn't a, you know, a bristling incommium to encourage people to the far fringes. I wrote an analysis, I wrote an anatomy of, it was called an establishment conservatives guide to the alt-right. It was the most influential piece of political journalism, that half decade, millions of people read it, and it was an anatomy of the movement from the fringes to the mainstream. I've always thought of myself as being in the mainstream,

even if I have a big mouth, even if I tell nasty jokes, my... I mean, look, you did once say that feminism was a cancer, and the only women who are deeply physically unattractive turned to it. That's absolutely true. True. Absolutely true. The only women who are deeply, physically unattractive are feminists. Yes, I mean, the only serious question about that is whether feminism makes women ugly or whether ugly, you know.

Here's the point, Molle. You double down, you just say, yeah, I still believe that. I mean, only 7% of women describe themselves as feminists. I mean, you know, this is not a popular movement. But I know many feminists who are not. You say this like, you know, oh, you've got these terrible things to say about feminism. I mean, feminism has a terrible thing to say about... That's a terrible thing to say about... That's a terrible thing to say about women.

What? The only deeply, physically attractive women, unattractive women are feminists. ...are drawn to a movement that is terrible for men and women that is driven by grievance and angst and doesn't get anybody anywhere. But you accept... But Molo, has in fact... And has in fact... Made women more...

unhappy. By the notwithstanding your argument about feminism as a movement, do you understand that the way you categorize that makes you sound like a flaming misogynist? It's the kind of thing Andrew Tate would say. Um, if the one bigotry that you get me on is woman hating, I can live with that. Really?

Um... Why would you be proud of your woman-hating? I didn't say that. I didn't say I was proud of it. I said that. I see in myself that flaw. That you hate women? No, that I...

I have said hateful things about women? Yeah, I have. Do I struggle with... Do I struggle, like, mustering affection for women? Yeah, sometimes. Probably lots to do with my mother. Probably lots to do with being homosexual for a lot of my life. Yeah, I do...

I do struggle to muster sympathy and affection for women sometimes. If I'm guilty of a really serious, you know, hatred toward anyone, Maybe I do hate women a bit. And I see that flaw in myself. But that does not mean I'm going to give an ugly, poisonous movement like feminism an easy ride because it makes men and women more miserable. Milo, I appreciate you coming to the studio and giving your case. People will better judge it for themselves, what they heard.

But thank you very much. God bless you, thanks. Well, it's been reported that the Lindsay Clancy jury has been unable to reach unanimous verdict. Jury is what ordered to continue deliberating on Tuesday morning. after informing the judges that they could not reach a consensus on murder charges. Joining me now is Nancy Mace, Republican Congresswoman for South Carolina, and Agassparian, the host and executive producer, The Young Turks, Carrie Prejean Ebola, she's a conservative commentator and Trump critic,

and Tiffany Smiley, conservative commentator. Well, welcome to all of you. Well, let me start with you, Nancy, if I may. Your reaction to what you've just been hearing from Milo Yanopoulos. Well, certainly, I hope he has all of this. the statements he made documented because I think he has a good case on appeal for what happened to him. You know, it doesn't feel good when you have the mob coming after you. And I'm someone who's had the mob on both the left and the right after them at any number of times for any number of statements.

I know how that feels when they are going after you. And it makes you wonder, is this retribution? Is it political retribution? What was behind it? What happened? I want to know why his mail or his warnings were returned to send her if they knew where he lived. But it was a fascinating. outstanding interview, but it leaves a lot of questions behind, I think. What about what he said about women at the end? Oh, well, certainly heartbreaking to hear that. But I think when we see some of the, I think, a discussion about women or women's issues, I've been shamed over being a survivor by people on both sides of the aisle.

Like, it really tugs up my heart shings as a mom to hear that. But at least he's sort of, I guess, understands that that's where he is. And I think it is, I mean, obviously it's harmful. to women having that kind of rhetoric out there. But, you know, it was sad. I really, like, I'm a mom and, you know, thinking about the Lindsay Clancy thing, thinking about the cultural divide we have in our country.

And honestly, it makes me sad for our country. Let me bring in Anna Kasparin. And Anna, I mean, I was pretty shocked by what he said at the end about women. I've got to be honest, to sort of just calmly admit you probably have a problem hating women. You know, you're not going to get many female supporters

for your cause by being quite so brave. reasonably misogynist. Yeah, I don't know. I don't really care what he thinks about women at all. It doesn't matter to me. It doesn't affect my life, even in the least. What do you feel about what's happened to him in terms of, as he says, he believes he had a green card.

He's married to an American man and that he should never have been deported. Many people think because of Laura Luma's involvement, because of the way she boasted about her involvement, that he's been a political scapegoat for turning. on the MAGA movement, if you like, or as he would see it, you know, the Trump administration and those who he thinks have strayed away from the MAGA movement.

But what do you feel about that part of it, notwithstanding his views on women? I think he might have a legitimate claim there. I mean, supporters of the Trump administration really don't make it a secret that they want to use immigration status to retaliate against critics. And that's the bigger issue that I'm having here.

You see this broader trend of Trump's allies calling for American citizens to be denaturalized or for actual American citizens who were born here in the United States to be deported, although they're never clear about where they would be deported to, considering the fact they were born here in the United States. So the use of our laws, including immigration law, doing so cynically in an effort to retaliate against political opponents, I think is a really big problem, and it leads to a lot of disdain and distrust

toward our political system. I think it's a bad idea, and they keep doing it. Carrie, preaching, Molle, welcome back to Uncensored. Are the two, we spoke to. There is a free speech issue here people think, which is that as long as he was saying the right things about President Trump and the administration, there were no questions being raised about his immigration status.

The moment he turned against the administration, Laura Luma, who may have a personal vested interest in disliking him from when they work together and stuff that may have gone on there has led a politically motivated campaign, which he's talked about publicly, to get him thrown out the country. Are you comfortable with that? No, I'm not comfortable with it at all. I agree with Anna. I think that this is politically motivated.

I think that this goes to the sense of, you know, if they don't like what you say, they're going to get rid of you. They're going to deport you. I mean, look at Marco Rubio. He's telling people that if you criticize the genocidal state of Israel, that you won't be welcomed into this country. I know Palestinians that are living here on a visa, they're afraid to, you know, speak out about the genocide because they're afraid to be deported as well. I mean, this cannot happen in the United States of America. And I would really love it if Nancy Mace right now on this panel could come out and talk about the genocide that is happening in Gaza.

I mean, she's taken over $100,000 from APEC over her career. I would really love for you to call it a genocide right here right now. I think it was about $138,000 and clearly wasn't enough. I would like your take on the genocide of Christian Syria, which is a story nobody wants to cover at all. The difference between you and I, as I'm willing to say. I support Jews. There is only one Jewish state in the world and they are under attack. Do you support the Palestinians right to exist or do you just support Israel-Bindon?

not support a two-state solution. I mean, this has been Israel's land. Can you condemn? Can you condemn the genocide in Gaza right now, right here? I condemn genocide everywhere. Will you condemn the genocide of Christians around the world, thousands of them, particularly in Nigeria? When you condemn the murder of Lansing's children, can she still be held in that several six minutes to kill them? When you condemn murder, murderous moms that that's the difference as an excuse to that's the difference between you and I is that I don't take money from APEC like you do. And so you're, you're a slave. You're honestly a slave in the system. It's people like you that are the problem. Are you not willing to condemn killing 20,000 innocent children in Gaza? Can you condemn that right now,

Nancy? And you condemn Lindsay Clancy's murdering your kids. Can you condemn? Don't pivot. Don't pivot. Do not pivot. Do not pivot. Answer the question. Can you're making. Can you condemn the killing of 20,000 innocent children in Gaza? And you can't say it. Can you say it? Can you say it? Looks like the Czech's cleared. Are you that?

Can you say it? Can you condemn Israel's genocide and Gaza killing 20,000 innocent children? I don't believe there's been genocide in Gaza. You can't do it because you're bought and paid for. Let me ask a different question. You're a slave. Okay, let me jump in, please, ladies. Let me jump in.

Jews are not safe to come out of their home now because the left is like you're no free woman. Ladies, please let me. I am moderating this panel whether you like it or not. Nancy Mace, my question to you would be, do you condemn anything that Israel's been doing in Gaza? I don't condemn. I think Israel is protecting Jews as they should. Even the gangraps? Even the gangraps? I support Israel. I support Israel. And by the way, ladies, before Iran broke out, you know where I went? I went to Israel. to rescue Americans. Of course you did. Of course you did. You love Israel. You should move there.

You should move there. You're a slave. You're pathetic. You're no free woman. All right. Well, I asked the question. I asked the question. These don't all talk at once. I asked the question. We got an answer. Let me get a Tiffany Smiley. Let's just move on to another big story that's been happening. And as we've been talking, they kind of hit a gridlock on this. And I'm more surprised. It's a very complicated story. And this is the story of Lindsay Clancy, the woman who killed her three children. And the defence being, she was suffering from severe postpartum depression,

so almost psychosis, and didn't know what she was doing, even though it looked like a lot of the actions had been premeditated and so on. The jury's obviously having a lot of trouble trying to work out where guilt may or may not lie here in terms of first-degree murder. And this has caused a lot of controversy.

People like Matt Walsh and others on these. conservative rights saying, well, of course it's murder. She killed three children. You might have some explanation for why she did it. But when did we become a society which has, you know, hundreds of people, fans outside the courtroom, supporting someone who killed three children. What is your view of this case? Yeah, I mean, my heart breaks for everyone in this case, and there are three beautiful souls who are dead. And the conspiracy theorist, and like we've just witnessed on your panel, people who just run to their corners and yell and scream takes away from a bigger conversation that I think needs

to be had on a lot of issues. And that cuts through and ask the question, how do we make sure that this never happens again? And how we do that is we have to understand it from a holistic perspective. We have to understand where the breakdown was. Where did it occur? Was it in the health care system? Was it her caretakers? We know that she said, suffered from some forms of postpartum depression. I was a triage nurse on an OBGYN floor. I have seen firsthand the mental health crisis that our country faces. And Americans would be shocked if they understood and knew what our health care providers face on a daily basis. This was 15 years ago that I was working. And you would be shocked if I told you some of the

stories that women had coming into our triage center. And that was a long time ago. And it's only gotten worse. I do know as a, as a health care professional, that postpartum depression can get worse with each child. Now, was it addressed appropriately with her first one and then it subsequently got worse leading to psychosis? Did she not have a care network at home that understood her? Did she wrap shame around it? Did the medical system fail her? Should she have been institutionalized? And why was she released? These are the questions that we need to know. So we know, make, can make sure that this absolutely never happens. Again, we are a society that just pushes medication and says, go have a nice day. She had three children under her care who are now

dead. And in some way, this woman felt that her only option out of the pain, out of the torture, was to kill her children and tried to kill herself. So we need answers to these questions. You know, I was speaking with a legal analyst just last week, and there were five of us talking about this case. And he said, this is going to be a hung jury because all five of us in this conversation looked at this case from a different lens. I am not surprised by what's going on. I do believe it will be a hung jury. There are women on the panel that have seen the facts, have understood her situation on a level that perhaps we will not until the verdict comes out. But the prosecution, you know, they want first-degree murder. And I think they had a

very hard time proving that a sane, rational mother would do the most unrational thing. Right. So let me bring Nancy back into this. I mean, the defense case, you know, I read it in detail to try and get my head around exactly what's happened here. And they say that following the birth of a third child, that Clancy spent months seeking help from multiple hospitals and outpatient programs for worsening severe insomnia, depression, intrusive thoughts, and intense brain fog. In the three months leading up to the tragedy, a clinicians have prescribed a revolving cocktail of heavy psychiatric medications, antidepressant sleep aids, an antipsychotic, which expert witnesses suggest exacerbated a manic episode rather than treat it. And her own

personal diaries and notes and journal entries detailed an increasing desperation where she talks of feeling disconnected and resentful of how her older children were impacting a time of the baby. She said, I want help, I want to be well, I'm a great mom, I love my kids. Now, we know how this ended. It ended in the most appalling way imaginable with her killing a children and trying to kill herself. But there are, like I say, there are many people who feel not only that she is a murderous, but that actually there's something very distasteful about these, all these many women turning up outside court, treating her like some kind of heroin. What's your view?

Well, as we just heard Tiffany, like, make excuses for a mom who murdered her kids. Like, why is it somebody else's fault? Why is it the health care system? Why is it her doctors? Why is it the woman who put her hands around her children's tiny necks and strangled them? It took six minutes each, and she shoved their faces into the floor of her home when she did it. And there were others that testified to psychologists and psychiatrists that said, while she was prescribed those medications, she did not take them.

And I say all this because I've got a pretty conservative viewpoint on the Lindsay Clancy murders. I had postpartum with my second child. And like almost every other mom who has postpartum, I didn't murder my children. It is very difficult. It is very harrowing. But if we're going to give postpartum the get out of jail free card for any mom who murders or kids, then by that same logic, we have to say to any mom who is diagnosed with postpartum, then maybe your kids should be taken away.

I have been appalled and disgusted and completely grubes. grossed out by the shocking interviews of the Lindsay Clancy pink mob going on TV and saying they too would harm their kids. I think this is crazy what's going on. I can't make sense of it. The supporters, basically these women are fawning over Lindsay Clancy's attorney, figuratively giving him valetio every time he walks into the courtroom and, you know, just fawning over a woman who murdered her kids. And there's very little sympathy. And this mom blamed her husband, the man that, walked home, came into the house to see and witness three of his children dead. I just, to me, this thing is crazy. There's going to be a hung jury. A jury is supposed to be impartial, and you saw two or three of the female jurists

walk in yesterday with pink shirts on. I guess in solidarity with Lindsay Clancy. To me, this is crazy talk. And at some point, we have to get back to what are our values. Do we value life? Do we value or do we value murderers? To me, I can't make sense of it. And I think that the support is absolute insanity.

Like, where was the support when Irene Zerudskar got murdered or when we had women that were murdered by illegal aliens or raped by them? Where was the sympathy in that? It just didn't exist with these, quote, feminists. Yeah, I mean, Annika Sparion, I think it's a complex case. I don't think it's a straightforward, easy thing to assess. But I, rather like with Luigi Mangione, after he, you know, killed the murdered the healthcare boss,

something about the hero worship of people that do despicable things. So whatever your argument about Lindsay Clancy, it was a despicable act to murder her three young children. That should be in arguable. The hero worship in modern society, fueled by social media, I think, of people that do these things, I find that regardless of the merits of the individual case

or the trials or whatever, that aspect of it is incredibly distasteful, isn't it? Well, we have a problem in our culture, And I think that culture is a symptom of the, you know, fish rotting from the head down. When you have a government that consistently justifies the mass slaughter of children abroad, as Congresswoman Nancy Mace just did, well, then that communicates to the American people that, hey, maybe the lives of children don't matter all that much. Maybe you can find a convenient excuse to justify killing them. I actually happen to agree with Nancy Mace on the issue of Clancy. I don't think that we are going down a good road when we start making justifications for, you know, health issues or hormone imbalances leading to the killing, the brutal, vicious killing of three innocent little kids.

And I see the same type of commentary kind of playing out when it comes to our foreign policy. And I find it all disgusting. In the case of Clancy, though, if we're going to start making justifications due to things like postpartisan, depression, which is serious. It isn't something that people should take lightly. However, as the Congress will have been noted, it is true that many women suffer from postpartum depression and they don't carry out these violent acts, including murder. I think that, you know, if we start making these types of justifications, what does it mean when it comes to young men who might have, let's say, unusually high testosterone levels? Are we going to start justifying them going out and

harming women, beating women, potentially sexually assaulting women? Well, he has high testosterone. You know, we did a levels test and we saw that it was high. So what could he do? He couldn't control himself. I just think that we need to be careful in the way that we talk about these issues because literally we're discussing children's lives. And look, I don't know how the jury is going to rule on this, but so far it seems like it could, you know,

it could be a hung jury in the end. We'll see. I don't know. Yeah, and if it is, there'll be another trial. Carrie pre-jeem Ebola. I mean, you know, I think it's just something. A lot of women I've spoken to have violently different views about this. A lot of their views can be driven by religion,

by the kind of lives, backgrounds they come from, and so on. What do you make of this? I mean, I think it's probably too heartless to just say what you're just a cold-blooded killer and should be judged accordingly. And I think it's too generous to say, well, there's all these excuses, and that's why we shouldn't punish her.

Right? To me, this, I personally sit somewhere in the middle. You know, I would, I would not be unhappy if I saw a verdict of sort of manslaughter based on diminished responsibility. But there will be lots of people that hear me say that who go, don't be ridiculous. She murdered these children. What do you think? Yeah, I think if Lindsay Clancy was in an altered state of mind, if she was experiencing a postpartum psychosis, then, you know, culpability is at play here. I think that it's so interesting how conservative women have just completely are supporting now the pharmaceutical industry. I mean, Lindsay Clancy was suffering. She was suffering tremendously. And now all of a sudden, we're just in support of the pharmaceutical industry. There is serious questions here. There is serious questions.

No one's support of the pharmaceutical industry. She was missing seven Zoloft pills out of her prescription. She wasn't taking the medicine according to the experts. No one is supporting Big Pharma. I'm the last one to support Big Pharma. Okay. How much of the case have you actually been following up on, Nancy? How much of the trial have you been actually watching?

I watch what I can and read when I can when I can. You had people testify and there were media reports that she wasn't taking all of the medication. So I think that has to be balanced in the conversation. And why blame a pill? There are millions of women that have those. I'm not blaming the pill. If you stop talking and let me talk, if you stop talking and let me talk, I'll be able to finish what I was trying to say. What I'm trying to say is that I believe that she was experiencing

a complete postpartum psychosis. I know women who have experienced actual tearing during childbirth that that causes extreme psychosis in women. And so we have to be having these conversations. Is it an excuse for her to kill her children? Absolutely not. The act of of killing those children was evil. But all I'm saying is that we have to have a broader discussion about drugs in this and what these drugs are causing people to do, period. Well, remember, I mean, I would say, let me just say that I think I read recently that 80% of the world's painkillers are consumed by Americans. If that stat doesn't worry people in America, it should.

I do think America, America is so easily accessible. America is by far the most heavily medicated country in the world. And I say that as somebody who loves America and loves Americans, I would be really concerned if those stats applied in my country. But, to your point, just real quick comment on that, I didn't know that stat, so thank you for sharing that with us. But we have to ask ourselves, why is it that so many Americans are in such a terrible place in their lives that they feel that they need to turn to these medications? I would say to that, I don't think it's Americans are in any worse place than people in the UK. It's just you get handed out drugs like confecting.

I mean, that's the problem. It is part of the culture. I think in America, where the first answer to everything is a lot of medication. And I think that's the problem. And you end up with a lot, you know, I felt this way, for example, about mass shooters in America. You often tend to be young, disenfranchised young men sitting in, you know, their mum's basement, you know, playing violent video games all day.

But they invariably are pretty heavily medicated, it turns out, right? And I just think that heavy medication, particularly of more youthful minds in particular, can be extremely damaging. We've got to end there. I want to ask Nancy very quickly before we end. A lot of people very concerned about you and your mental state because of the tattoo images you put out. A cry for help, a strident move for womanhood, a slip down into rock chick superstardom. Where were you going with this, Nancy? No, it's just I happen to be trawling people that had, I guess, a very visceral role. reaction to seeing a woman with tattoos. And I have made no, I've not hidden behind the trauma that I've been through over the last couple of years. And one of the ways that I have dealt with that trauma like a lot of other women is by artwork, is by the tattooing. It's

something that got me through some tough times. I love my ink. And I don't, and I kind of love trolling people that the same people that were, you know, defending Pete Heggseth and his tattoos were then attacking me. And some of the folks that were attacking me have their own tattoos. To me, this has been around for thousands of years. I love it. Half the country, I think, is tattooed. Who really cares? And I'm getting ready to leave Congress so I can go sleeveless if I want.

I cover up when I'm in my government job. But it's been a very liberating experience for me, getting them and showing them off. And they'll be more. And I'll tell you, Pierce, I've got more than nine. Really? No one really cares. No one cares. Actually, I like that.

That's not completely true. I'm actually quite interested in Nancy's nine tattoos. How about you start criticizing the Israeli government in their genocide in Gaza, not you're talking about your stupid tattoos. Okay. On that moment of... On that moment of panel solidarity,

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