Piers Morgan Uncensored - Kristi Noem Defends Shooting Dog, New Trans Inclusive Flag & More

Episode Date: May 3, 2024

Harry Potter star Daniel Radcliffe slams JK Rowling over her stance on women’s rights - again. Does he have a point? Or is it the ultimate case of biting the hand that feeds? Donald Trump sets out his vision for a second term in a major cover story interview with Time Magazine. Critics say it’s chilling. Supporters say they've caught a dangerous new variant of Trump Derangement Syndrome. Who’s right? Does shooting a dog show “political toughness”? Or is it just political suicide? And there's a new trans inclusive LGBTQIA2SL plus flag. We’ll break it all down - as a public service. Piers is joined by commentator Brandon Tatum, Host of the "Blaire White Project" podcast, Blaire White, Uncensored contributor Esther Krakue & comedian James Barr. YouTube: @PiersMorganUncensored X: @PiersUncensored TikTok: @piersmorganuncensored Insta: @piersmorganuncensored Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Well, Harry Potter star Daniel Radcliffe slams J.K. Rowling again over her stance on women's rights. Does he have a point, or is it the ultimate case of biting the hand that fed him his millions? Donald Trump sets out his vision for a second term in a major cover story interview with Time magazine. Critics say to chilling. So borders say they've got a dangerous new variant of Trump arrangement syndrome. So which is right. Does shooting a dog show political toughness, or is it just political suicide? And there's a new trans-inclusive.

LGBTQ1A2SL plus flag. We'll break that all down as a public service. Well, drawing me to debate all this is the Peers-Pack, commentator Brandon Tatum of the Officer Tatum YouTube channel. Blair White, host of the Blair White Project podcast, and in the studio, on the sensor contributor, Esther Cracko, and the sometime comedian James Barb. Very famous, sometime comedian after last week's...

I am the number one Israel-Palestine correspondent in the UK. Yeah, I think you've always had that reputation here, is it a sharp political commentator? Please read my book. Anyway, it's good to have you all. Let's start then with the NHS, the National Health Service here in this country, leading the way many Americans think in perhaps reestablishing some basic biological facts in the gender wars, and of course, obviously also going further and banning puberty blockers,

which America has yet to do. So let me ask you, first of all, James. The NHS is to declare sex a biological reality as part of its new constitution. The guidance will mean that trans men should not be housed on single-sex male wards. Transgender people whose gender identity differs from their biological sex may be provided single rooms where appropriate. Patients will have the right to request a person of the same biological sex delivers any intimate care. Phrases like chest feeding will be banned and so on.

Or with a backdrop of Daniel Reckleff saying that J.K. Rowling, he's been campaigning for all this, is disgusting and awful and he wishes, presumably, he'd never taken her grubby millions. When you sit with this, to me, this is not only a victory for common sense, but it's also going to help trans people in the long run. Because a lot of these debates, I think, have been very damaging to the transgender attempt to get to proper fairness and equality. because it has made transgender people the subject of mockery. And I think that's been very damaging. So that's where I sit with this. Where do you sit? I think that's a confusing take, to be honest.

I'm not entirely sure. I understand that. I probably need you to unpack it another time. I think it's bullshit. I mean, you know how difficult it was for your mum to get a bed in hospital. You told that story recently, and it was devastating. And they're now saying they're going to separate people. They're going to check what's going on underneath their clothing.

Like, this is just insane. They don't have enough resort. as it is, it's a completely under-resourced institution, and the people that work for it are amazing, but they need more support, as do trans people, and to vilify trans people, it's just disgusting. You've literally said nothing there. That was a giant nothing burger.

It said where appropriate, which means if the resources are there, then they can have their own rooms. At the end of the day, there's no reason for a trans woman to be on a maternity ward. And I hate to break it to you, but you're not a woman. You have no idea how it feels to have your legs open, being in that intimate environment trying to give birth,

there is no space for someone who identifies as something else other than their gender to be there. Why would a trans woman be giving birth on a maternity ward? I don't, you tell me. Because apparently they can do that. That's a crazy thing to ask. That's the crazy thing to suggest. Let me bring in Blair.

We're coming to a point and speaking as a trans woman on the panel here, we're getting to a point in society where we have to start to cope with the fact that there had been a lot of excesses with the trans movement. It's done a lot of things incorrectly. It has put people off. It's hurt women. It's hurt children.

And I think recalibrating is the only way to get to a point where things are actually, you know, not having to, we don't have to worry about women in prisons and in hospital situations. These are things that we've solved long ago. And for whatever reason, it's bubbling back up because of politics. But at the end of the day, when it comes to prison specifically, when it comes to prison specifically, biological men should not be in women's prisons. We have enough incidents here in the U.S.

of women getting pregnant, getting raped. Because at the end of the day, in a lot of states in the U.S., you don't even have to have reassignment surgery to be in a woman's prison. It's just on your sake, though. Well, you know, Blair, in Scotland. And I think it's absolutely correct when he says that not only does this damage women and children,

it's also come and it's rebounded, and it's damaged trans people. And it's made people look at the community, like what in the world is going on. Yeah, and on that point about the prisons, I mean, the Scottish National Party, which is the ruling party in Scotland, the leaders just resigned closely following on the heels of the previous leader. And it all goes back, actually, to when the previous leader, Nicola Sturgeon insisted on putting a male rapist into a female prison.

And at that point, most Scottish people rose up and went, this is completely insane. Why would you put somebody who's in a male prison having committed crimes of rape as a biological male into a women's prison where he can attack other women? I mean, it just, it was mind-fewish. It's wrongingly insane. It is insane, and it's because the fear of being called transphobic, even the state fears it, which is really scary. And at the end of the day, it's like... Well, actually, let me ask James.

Blair, just hang on one sec. James, you literally, you come in week and week out, and you talk for trans people, and you tell them how they should all be thinking about this. No, that's not true. You've literally, hang on, you've just literally heard a trans woman, identifying as a trans woman, explain to you why you're wrong.

Are you going to now tell her as a gay man, are you now going to tell her how she should be feeling? I just wanted to pick up on the point you said where people in politics are afraid to be transphobic. That is absolutely not the case in this country where our Prime Minister will happily make transphobic jokes and get away with it. Well, it's shifting now.

It's shifting now, but we're leaving an era where it was absolutely, you know, a thing that was happening where you couldn't speak against the movie. you couldn't be seen as on the wrong side of history. Now it's shifting because people are becoming aware of these excesses that we're talking about. But is that okay? And there's just for a prime minister to make those kind of jokes. Is that okay?

There is no room. I don't really care about jokes. I don't really care about jokes. There should be no room. And the idea that jokes. By the way, just to be clear, the joke the prime minister made was in reference to the fact that the labor leader is incapable of saying what a woman is, right? And believes 99% of women don't have a penis.

Okay. Let's not get into the graphic. And if we want to get it. And if we want to get very literal and slightly personal, that sort of thing affects me exactly 0%. But men, trans women and biological males being in women's prisons is actually going on a realistic level going to affect me more because it makes me look like one of these people. So if I had to choose between which one I want to stop happening, I really don't care about jokes. And because I'm a normal person, I care more about women's safety. And again, again, I come to you, Jay.

I will come to you, Officer Tatum. You're waiting very patiently. But James, again, you know, again, week and week out, you are enraged by all this. You think it's terrible that trans people should be able to do all these things. They should be able to compete against biological women at sport. They should be able to put in women's prisons. They should be blah, blah, blah, blah. I've never spoken on women's prisons, actually.

So you don't think they should be. That's a misquote. So just to be. Well, hang on, hang on, you put me up. So let me give you the chance to clarify. Do you think trans people should be put into women's prisons? I think that they should be safe, as should all prisons. Hang on, there wasn't a question.

That's not an answer, though. I'm not going to get dragged into it. I'm getting dragged into it. You dragged yourself. I don't understand the prisoners. You denied ever saying it. But I'm now asking, hang on. Has been pointed out, I am not a trans woman.

I'm not a trans man. Oh, now you're backing off because there's a trans woman actually here. No, I have always said that. I have always said that. But so often I'm thrown into this panel without another trans person being, without a trans person being in. I have to be the. So, thank God, you're here. Let me just.

Let me just ask, hang on one second, everyone. Hang on one second. I just want to ask Joe, because you do pick me up on this. You stopped me to pick me up on it. So you've made it an issue just for the record. You said that I made a comment on it. Just for the record, should trans women be allowed to be put into women's prisons? Yes or no?

Honestly, I have no understanding on the issue and I don't want to make a comment on. But I won't be told that I haven't. And yet you think the trans women athletes should be allowed to compete against biological women? Yes, I do think that. Do. You see no inconsistency in these positions. I don't really know because I haven't made a comment on the prison. Because he's scared to be.

I'm not scared to be shame. The same thing that Blair said, let me talk, let me talk. The same thing that Blair was saying that people are afraid to be called transphobic and all this stuff. And so are you. You won't be honest and tell the truth about the fact that it's absolutely mind-blowingly ridiculous to think that a man with a penis that's impersonating a woman or think he's a woman can be in a women's prison. That's insane.

You seem to think, it's no disagreement, brother. The man has a penis. It's in a cell with a woman. She's a woman. With a penis. A woman is a problem with society. This is a problem with society.

I don't know what we talk about each other. Let me finish. This is a problem with society. We need to be logical, reasonable, and operating facts. It is a man that identify as a woman. It's not a woman. It's very simple.

Why can't we get that correct? Well, why can't we ask, let's ask Blair, as the only trans person on this panel, what do you feel about what Officer Tatum just said there? I 100% agree. And I don't know exactly what goes on overseas in prisons. I'm an American, but what I do know here is just about once a month, there's some kind of story about a female inmate in a federal prison, becoming pregnant, being raped,

because at the end of the day, these are biological males with the capability to impregnate women, to rape women. And the idea that trans safety should always trump women's safety, I just don't understand that. And the other problem with people like this

is they never offer any solutions. So for me, there are such things as LGBT wards in certain prisons in America. And for me, that's a very easy solution to this problem. Put trans people in LGBT wards that brings the children. trans person safe and it also keeps women safe.

Yeah, I completely agree with that solution. I think my issue with this conversation is that it feels like a smoke screen for transphobia and a lot of the time people do hide behind it. It's not. There are a lot of women, biological women, as you would say, in women's prison that are also raping women. And no one is talking about that. No one's discussing that. Everyone just talks about the 1% of trans people that live in this country that aren't

probably aren't going to prison. It's all made into this big deal, and it isn't. As you've made clear, James, you're not prepared to pass comment on this. And we know why, because you don't want to say what is actually the obvious reality, which is it's insane, because your fear that you will be accused of being transphobic, which is, of course, very ironic because that is the word that is used about all of us whenever we try and stand up for women's rights. I do understand what you're saying that, but by coming on here and supporting trans people in the way I do,

I'm constantly called rumour by your fans. Hang on. Is that not also scary? It's very brave to have this opinion. As I said to you, as I've been consistent in print and all there, you've ignored what I said. I have always defended trans people's rights to fairness and equality. I do want to bring back Esther, to stall on this one point, about Daniel Radcliffe, who told the Atlantic,

one of the big media organizations in America, it makes me really sad ultimately. I do look at the person that I met, the times that we met, the books that she wrote, and the world that she created, and all of that to me is so deeply empathetic. This is after he's attacked JK Ravel. again for her stance on defending women's rights. These Harry Potter stars are a bunch of deluded,

ill-informed, spoiled brats. The truth is, this whole debate, now in this country, has come full square behind J.K. Rowling. It has never been transphobic. I don't even, by the way, I don't even like J.K. Rowling. She's abused me for years, right, on Twitter. Called me all sorts of terrible names.

She once said it was absolutely delicious to see me be told to fuck off on American TV. So I have no truck with her, However, on this she has been brave and correct. And now the woke worm has turned and come round to J.K. Rowling. And Esther, people like Daniel Radcliffe, spoiled little brats who don't know what they're talking about. They've caused more damage than she has ever done.

I find the lack of self-awareness actually quite baffling. So just removing J.K. Rowling from this, if they suddenly don't like her as a person, fine. But she's speaking on behalf of women, women that are scared of having their spaces roof. She was a victim of domestic violence, and she's saying it is detrimental to women to remove their safe spaces,

it is detrimental to women to tell them that they must compete with biological men who somehow feel entitled to those spaces. How can they not see past that? It's more than just the fact that JK Rowling gave them a career and gave them a wonderful start and all of that. Think of the women that she's speaking on behalf of.

So you're willing to put all of those women's lives at risk to be able to virtually signal to all 10 trans people are right? By the way, if they're that outraged by how evil JK Rowling's, hand back all the money you've made from J.K. Rowling. Every dollar of the tens of millions you've all raked in because you were very, very happy to make money from her, and now you want to trash her in public.

It's the worst kind of disloyalty. I just want to ask you, Joe, because you are... I think it's very interesting... Sorry, Blair, yeah. I think it's interesting how J.K. Rowling has become this figurehead for, you know, as obviously her detractors would say, transphobia or hatred or whatever. And I think it's really indicative of the fact

that the trans community has become so radioactive and such a repellent to common sense and reason that the person who made Dumbledore gay retroactively that made Hermione Granger black retroactively, it takes a lot to get that person to be like, but you know what, the trans people are doing a bit much here. So I think that that should show everyone.

It's time to recalibrate and get some common sense. And it's not a bad thing. Separate but not equal is not always a bad thing. Like, I don't feel victimized in any way that I'm not in every single woman's space or I have my own space. I do my own thing. And that's how trans people should be. God, it's so refreshing to hear a trans person publicly say this because a lot of trans people I know are too scared to get involved in this. They don't want to have a fuss.

They don't want to have all this stuff. They don't want to be mocked. It'll be laughed at ridiculed because of trans activists or allies who think they're being allies to the trans committee and actually having the complete opposite effect. I want to ask you, Joe, because you're the only, well, you're the only person who identifies as gay on this panel. I think that's right. Are you about to come out, please? Not yet.

You know, I've always found you a very handsome and attractive young man. I nearly said you too, but I had to stop myself because I don't lie. Now, there's a new Pride flag. I tried to read out all the initials that go with Pride these days. I can't keep up with it. More and more people seem to get added to it. But it's a weird picture of this Pride flag. Let's take a look.

It looks like the old test card on television. Showing away. When everything froze. It's a psychedelic vomit mess, isn't it? What is it? It's ugly. I love it just got an umbrella, like representation for the rain in this country.

Honestly, like, I don't really get it. Like, I don't understand why we need to keep changing it. But what I do understand is a ladder. But it's fine. You know, that's the point with a flag. Like, we can change it. We're not stuck in our ways, like straight people. we're not going to get upset by the England flag being redesigned.

Well, it can if it wants to. It's changed a lot over the years, and people continue to... Say again, Blair? There shouldn't even be a flag. But should we. But why not? I mean, we didn't invent the rainbow. God invented the rainbow.

We used that as a symbol. There shouldn't be a flag. We use that as a symbol to let people know that they were set. Actually, you raised a good point there. We don't need to do that. I think, like, if you're an American, you're all, you're all encompassed under the American flag. We're all Americans, whether you're gay, straight, blind,

you can see, crippled. It doesn't matter. We're all Americans. And we should be accepting of one another. We don't have to like one another. We don't have to like what each other does, but we should be accepting. And that's the way that normal people believe. It's the trans and the LGBTQ AARP that are hangful and devices.

So wait, are you saying that when you go past like a Ford factory and they've got like a big Ford flag outside or a crisis of the flag, or are you not allowed those flags because those flags don't represent the country. So you're saying that... Well, you're saying that I can't have a pride flag because the American flag does the job.

So that means all flags are banned? No, no. What you're saying is that the LGBTQ is a business. No, I'm not. I'm using a crazy analogy to try and understand what you're saying about how my identity as a gay man is not allowed because I'm more so British.

Because it never ends, brother. It never ends. But why does it matter to you? It's only you that... Look, I know you guys are really jazz. that you don't have a flag. And so I know you're triggered. I know that you're triggered by California.

I know. I do. I finally designed you. Thank you. A flag with your face on it. I actually do. I know. Proudly wave.

Thank you. I love that. You can't even describe. You can't even describe. You can't even describe. You can't even describe. I want a straight flag. I can wave proudly as well.

I'm right. I've got a straight flag. I'm fired. Here you go. Oh, no. There we go. There you go. Do you feel like you're part of it now?

Do you feel happy? All I feel is the reason they keep changing the Pride flag is the definition of what it is to be LGBT has now been increased to so many ludicrous numbers of digits numbers. And there's nobody knows what it means. It has lost all meaning. Nobody does it. It is to be just lesbian and gay. We get it. Okay, well, I'm happy.

Be proud. I'm proud of you, right? I'm proud of anyone who wants to come out as gay. But here's the thing. We're about, I'm about to enter Pride Month again. Yeah, I can't wait. A whole month of shouting. about being gay. Why?

No, it's about shouts about being LGBTQIA. Nobody tells you you're gay every day of the year. Every day, every day. Every day. They're old and proud. Why'd you need a whole special month? And where's my month? You don't need a straight month.

Why? I want a straight month. You know why. I'm now the most marginalized member of community. You know why. Because the rest of the year is always straight. Every day is straight. We live in a society that is straight.

Are you serious? That's not even true. That's not even good. That's how you were more. That's how you were more. great white guys like me. Do we need you? Because you're the, you're the patriarchy peers.

We are, we're not. We are actually the minority now. We're the minority group of Wisconsin. Finally. Let me move on. Let me move on. I want to start with you, if I may, obviously, Tatum on this.

Is celebrity Trump derangement syndrome back? Carmala Harris, two clips, Joe Biden on Howard Stern, Carmala Harris and Drew Barrymore, which is one of the most revolting things I think I've ever watched on global television in the history of 10. history of television. Let's take a look at Kamala Harris,

Vice President of the United States on Drew Barrymore's show. I've been thinking that we really all need a tremendous hug in the world right now. But in our country, we need you to be mamala of the country. Let me bring it off as a Tatum. Have you ever felt more nauseous watching television

than in the mamala moment? No, I mean, these people are absolutely ridiculous. I want to say another word, but I'm trying to be a good Christian. But, you know, this woman, they're all fake. They're all fake. Kamala Harris is now the first black vice president when she was, you know, elected into the Senate.

She was the first Indian senator. I mean, these people are absolutely ridiculous. What does Mamala mean? Is that going to help with inflation? Is that going to help bring down prices of groceries? None of that matters. Are they going to secure the border? None of what she's doing on the couch

with this other lady, Barrymore. I mean, they got a big old couch. Why are they sitting right? right in front of each other. These people are absolutely ridiculous and virtue signaling. But it's not marvelous fault. She didn't ask to be called that, right?

She just said that her stepchildren call her that. And then Drew was like... Well, there's two ignorant, two ignorant folks just saying rubbish. None of that really matters to the American people. I don't know why they even

having a conversation about it. What I found, what I found what I was embarrassing, it's embarrassing. Hang on Blair, I'm going to come to you. In American television, as you get into election year, actually any year with Trump,

you would never see this in reference to Trump or Melania or his vice president or his vice president's wife or any of that. We don't see me. They are all the devils, right? The only people that you can talk this way about. And it was interesting to me because Howard Stern is one of the people I most admire in world media. He's one of the greatest interviewers in history. And I love the guy.

But I was actually quite surprised about just how softball. He was with Joe Biden last week. Let's take a look. You know, the reason I'm so. excited to talk to you was because I wanted to understand the tragedy in your life and how you dealt with it. And you're the kind of leader I love because we're lucky to have you in the Oval Office and serving as the father of the country because if you're a good father to your family, which you are, I know you'd be a good father to the country. And I want to thank you for

providing a calming influence, an organized administration, post-COVID, getting that vaccine out. I remember what the world was like at that point, getting NATO, getting us to feel comfortable. standing up to Putin, the incredible large growth in the jobs, unemployment rate down. I'll give you your greatest hits. The lowest uninsured rate in history, four out of five Americans are covered for less than $10 a month, knocking off a few ISIS leaders, cutting the emissions in half. I mean, you've always been an environmentalist. How many went on and on?

Blair, I mean, I was surprised that Howard went quite so far in the Sycophant's route with Biden, were you? It's not surprising at all. There's this really sick thing that happens in American media where if you are a celebrity or a host or an interview, you have to absolutely worship to the point of insanity any Democrat politician on the show. And every Republican politician, we're talking from, you know, Congress to president to anyone is literally Hitler.

And this is something I've observed my whole life. George Bush was literally Hitler. John McCain was literally Hitler, Mitt Romney. And now Trump and now they want you to believe. that actually, no, this is really literally Hitler this time with Trump. But it's the same thing with the Kamala thing. And Kamala's legacy is particularly sad to me. I mean, it was spoken very plainly by a Biden administration that she was literally picked

because she was a black woman. And I think that that's just actually really embarrassing and hurtful towards black women and minorities in this country who want to believe that they can prosper on their own merit rather than be handpicked out of something. So I've never understood the love for Ms. Kamala. Well, also, it just looks so partisan. I mean, I spoke to Charlemagne the God in New York recently, and he's gone completely off the Biden administration

because he thinks Carmen has been so useless for African Americans and done absolutely nothing to improve their lives. Trump was better. Yeah, yeah, I think that's why he's getting a lot more vote now in polls from African-Americans. Esther, let me ask you, there's also a time interview with Trump. They had two long interviews with him, done a big cover story in which he lays out what he means,

may do if he comes back to the Oval Office. And it's gone down with the Democrats, like a lead balloon, obviously. Amongst many things, he said he used the military to sort out the southern border. National Guard, if necessary. Migrant detention camps possible. Suggests a 60% plus tariff on Chinese imports. Says Israel, they should be changing their public relations. It's fared very badly.

He says abortion is a state. rights issue. Talking about access abortion pills, we'll have an opinion on that. I'm not going to explain. I'm not going to say it. I have pretty strong views, but he won't say them. He would absolutely consider pardoning January 6th defenders, even those who've obviously been sent to prison.

NATO, Europeans need to pay their share and so on. So, I'm a lot aware of very Trumpian stuff. What's your take on this time interview? I think he said a lot of things that would resonate with people that have basically been left for no other option than to vote for Trump. I think the Democrats' reaction to Trump baffles me because he is their fault.

Everything that he is is their fault. Because if you offered people an alternative, Trump wouldn't even be someone who is taken seriously. He's not, you know, clothed and glory. But one thing that does concern me about Trump that I think we need to look under the hood a little bit is who's going to be in his administration. Because being a politician isn't just about convincing people to vote for you. It's also about being a leader and being able to bring people under your roof and actually get them to work together to have a coherent administration. He's alienated a lot of people that have been consistently by his side for years. And that's the thing that concerns me.

I think a lot of the things that he says is quite common sense, leaving abortion to the states, you know, securing the southern border, all of these things that the Biden administration could just say they want to do, but will not do it because they've been effectively hijacked by lunatics that I generally believe hate America. Okay. Well, James, you are our resident political expert in America after last week. So your take on Trump derangement syndrome, we're probably about to hear an example of it, but your view of his manifesto, he is re-elected? Honestly, I think it's terrifying.

That interview is scary in many ways. I think the thing that stood out for me the most was the stuff about tracking pregnant women and allowing states with anti-abortion bans to track women's pregnancies. And it's not surprising from someone that said you can grab women by the pussy to now want to track women's literal pussies.

But I do think that's a bit of a problem, and I think it's very scary. And I agree with Esther, it's surprising that he wants to just rule the world and doesn't care about what other people think. You know what's interesting about the whole abortion thing? Because Trump has briefed that his personal view is that he thinks the 15-week term limit

would be about where most Americans would sit in terms of abortion law. Which is where those Europeans sit as well, actually. Well, it's fascinating. Actually, there are quite a few European countries with much more strict abortion laws than that. There are places in Europe like Poland and Malta and others where it is illegal completely. to have an abortion. And so this idea that United States is a complete outlier,

actually by throwing it back to the state, it starts to resemble much more what Europe is like. You know, where you have the UK, which is a real outlier in terms of lax law, many would argue, 24-week term limit. You have countries like Germany and France, which are around the kind of 10-12-week thing. So it always strikes when I go to America and it becomes such a heated debate, the abortion debate. I do wonder whether most Americans understand that Europe is not dissimilar. It's not. Anyway, let's move on to...

Well, I'll tell you one thing I do want to mention, if I could, with Officer Tatum. This South Dakota Republican, Governor Christy Noam, who is tipped to be Donald Trump's running mate, has boasted in a book that she's just brought up and she shot and killed a puppy called Cricket, a 14-month-old wire-haired pointer because she said that poochies,

aggressive personality made her untrainable as a hunting dog. Now, I know a lot of Americans, you love your pets, you particularly love your dogs. I don't think anyone could possibly run for high office having brazenly boasted of murdering a little dog called cricket, do you? Well, let me say this. I think that that's definitely a black guy for her because America do love the dogs. I mean, I remember back when Michael Vick was in a dog killing ring and they got the prison for it, And they hated him more than people that kill other people.

Yeah. So America don't accept it. You know, I don't know if in that culture of hunting and ranching and stuff that killing the dog is normalized, I don't think she would have bragged about it if it wasn't culturally normal. But I do think it gives her a black eye, you know. I don't know the details enough to care. But I do think that she's not going to be a valuable candidate if you have killed a dog in the United States of America. I want to go back to the point, Pierce, just one second.

about the Democrats. You know, Howard Stern completely lied about Joe Biden. Joe Biden doesn't have the numbers that he had claimed that he has. Our economy is going downhill. We're in all kind of wars. We've given hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine with no receipts. We don't know how they're spending the money. I mean, all of these things, and Donald Trump has been the president before. So if they think he's going to be the dictator and chief, he's going to be Hitler all over again, he's had an opportunity to do that, and he never did that. He boasted one of the best economies in United States history. He did so much for black people, gay, more money to HBCUs.

I mean, you go down a list of, that's why he's polling better than Joe Biden. Joe Biden has got the face of the country. He can use as much money as he can to put his name out there. Kamala Harris is a black woman, Katanji Brown, all these woke things that he's done. Why do you think his ratings are so low? Why do you think Kamala Harris is the war and vice president's in history? It is amazing that despite all that, his support is cratering with African Americans and African Americans who gravitated into Trump.

But that's because actually African Americans may not want to be patronized. and actually do want to be judged on their merit and do want presidents to be judged on their merit and they feel like the Biden-Harris administration does not improve their lives, in fact, the opposite. Blair, final point. If I could just add, since we're giving Trump his flowers, he also made animal cruelty a federal felony,

which I was shocked it wasn't before he did that. So you're absolutely correct. The idea that Christy Noem has any chance of working with Trump, I don't see that happening just on that alone. But he also did a lot of bad things as well, guys. You're forgetting the Muslim ban. Name one. You're forgetting the Muslim ban.

Hold on. No, no, no. Muslim ban. Let's talk about the Muslim man. I don't need to. What did he do the men of Muslims? Whatever. What did he do to bear Muslims?

You can't sit here and say. You're making it up. You're not American. Because you're giving flowers, which is fine. But there needs to be someone else saying, well, hold on a second. He also did this. He did also. Explain the Muslim ban.

Well, he banned people from a certain country. Just did a blanket ban. No, he didn't. Yes, he did. He did not. Under Barack Obama's administration, they had certain countries that were a threat, which Barack Obama put into place.

Donald Trump only enacted what Barack Obama did. By the way, you have no idea what you're talking about. Fact check, entirely correct. Barack Obama, hang on, Barack Obama identifies seven Muslim countries that he thought were a threat to America. It was those seven that Trump, after a massive terror attack,

decided there should be a temporary hold on people coming in from the seven countries that Obama, his predecessor, had identified as a threat to America. So important to get these things to the right context. This is the Trumpwood dipping, dipping your penit to around context. I can read more out if you'd like me to. Go on, no, read more out.

Come on, give me another one. You don't know what you're talking about. It's like wrestling. Sorry, I couldn't hear you there, Blesse. Men were talking over you. January 6th? I said that it's also, in my opinion, up to the left to explain why these countries that just so happens to be, you know, a political threat,

a terrorist threat, bipartisanly decided that happened to be Muslim. I mean, I would like to hear an explanation. 88 felony charges right now. Just because you're a rapist. Impeached twice, climate change reversal, making Europe less safe. I mean, there was a lot of things that weren't right. He brought some things in a world. Listen, hold on.

You're innocent. The entire world is in flames right now, and he was the only. only one to bring peace to the Middle East, that decision alone should deal anyone, any Americans members say, vote. I just want to say, I want to win, because James did mention there were some things he would give credit to Trump for. Can you name one? Well, some of the things you said were OK. Can you name one? Okay. If he bought peace to the Middle East, that's wonderful. Thank you very much your contribution to our political debate in America. We were going to talk about King Charles. We haven't really got time to do that other than to say it was great

to see him back out yesterday at the McMillan Cancer Center. And I was really struck by one thing. And it's this. Everywhere he went, he went upstairs. So he did the normal stuff to start with. He arrived in his Bentley with Queen Cumilla. But look at his hand placement with all these patients. And I noticed this in the moving footage in particular.

And then you see the stills. He normally shakes everyone's hand with his right hand in a very formal stiff way. Yesterday with fellow cancer sufferance, they were all sitting in these chairs having chemotherapy. He ended all their conversations by taking their hand with his left hand in a much more intimate, personal way. And as one of them said afterwards, I really felt that he was connecting with us because he knows exactly what we're going through. Emotionally, physically, psychologically. And I watched that and I thought, wow, I remember the pictures of Charles when the queen was shaking his hand on the train station when he was a kid.

The queen was very formal in the way she interacted with him. He took that formality through into all his public life. You would never see him do this kind of thing. But of course it was ironic. It was Diana, his former ex-wife who sadly died. She led the way in this kind of much more tactile, touchy-feely interaction with the royal family. And people used to draw a big distinction. And I think after yesterday, our king, I think through this awful time he's having,

has finally developed an empathy and connection with the British people, which I've never seen before. And that was just great to see. So look, we haven't got time to debate it. I'm not sure as much to debate. I'm not to say it's great to see him back. And it's great to see a king who really can connect now with people in this country.

Three million people in Britain have cancer. And they now have a monarch who absolutely knows what they're going through because he's going through it himself. So good to see you about your majesty. And great to see our regal panel in all their splendor. Thank you all very much for a very lively debate today. I appreciate it.