Piers Morgan Uncensored - Piers Morgan Uncensored: RIP Tina Turner, Mizzy, Michael Block

Episode Date: May 24, 2023

On tonight's episode of Piers Morgan Uncensored, Piers pays tribute to the late great Tina Turner as she dies at the age of 83. Piers speaks in controversial TikTok creator, Mizzy as he cause chaos in public just for online pranks. Piers looks into one of the greatest underdog performances at a Major Sporting Tournament ever, Michael Block joins Piers to speak about his memorable four day at the PGA Championship. Watch Piers Morgan Uncensored at 8 pm on TalkTV on Sky 522, Virgin Media 606, Freeview 237 and Freesat 217. Listen on DAB+ and the app.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm Pierce Morgan. Uncensored tonight. She was simply the best. Breaking news, Tina Turner has died at the age of 83. We'll pay tribute to one of the all-time music greats. Plus, he's the social media so-called prankster who sparked national outrage by terrorizing innocent bystanders. Mizzi, as he calls himself, enter people's homes without permission, stole property, not people off their bikes, even stole an elderly woman's dog, all for social media fame on TikTok. Today he got away with a 365 pound fine. Many think that's not enough. He joins me live. And Michael Block is the underdog hero who electrified the sporting world

this week and punctured our collective doom and gloom with a winning attitude to living a dream. The Rocky Balbaugh of golf joins me live to tell me how he did. Live from the news building in London, this is Pearce Morgan Uncensored. Well, good evening from London. Welcome to Pierce Morgan Unsensored.

Sad breaking news. At the start of the show this evening, the legendary Tina Turner has died at the age of 83, one of the all-time music greats, simply as she sang the best, and we'll pay tribute to her a little later in the program. But first, many young people see social media stardom as a fast track to fame and fortune. People you've never heard of can become very famous and very wealthy very quickly from the business of bagging clicks and followers online. But with more than 500 hours of content uploaded every single month, minute just to YouTube. How do they even begin to get noticed? Well, some influencers have a talent. They can sing or dance. Some give brash opinions. Some play computer games. Some give friendly tutorials

on things like how to do makeup or make music. But others get their clicks by honestly behaving like complete morons. In California, a YouTuber and pilot faced 20 years in jail for crashing an airplane to get more subscribers. Others have jumped from city buildings, taken on wild animals, crash cars, you name it. However mad it is, someone has tried it just for the clicks. And all in the name of becoming Insta famous. This week, a social media prankster named Mizzi has generated headlines and abject outrage for so-called pranks, which mostly involved just terrorizing innocent bystanders. Let's go.

James. James. James. Hello, you go on nice dog The law and today I'm afraid for me on the day Well as public anger grew this week London's met police announced they were looking for Mizzy Real name Bacari-Bronzegarro

The law caught up with him And today he was fined 365 pounds And given a criminal behaviour order Which is supposed to ban him from posting to social media Without the written permission of the people in his videos you might think that's not much of a punishment or much of a deterrent. But what does he think? Well, fresh from the courtroom, he's here now.

All right, well, good evening to you. Hello, hello, Pears. Long time, no see. What do you mean, long time no see? Last time I caught on your thing with my friend. Oh, that's right. You appeared in the background, didn't you? Yeah, mate.

Okay, well, I'm what you're mate. What I am as an interviewer who, I'm curious about what has been motivating you to terrorise the people around where you live. Why do it? I wouldn't really call it terrorizing. I would just call it more having fun. But let's get this out of the way first. I apologize.

You see this situation that blew up on the internet walking into random houses? The next day, I apologize to the woman because I felt bad, in it? Like, deeper than social media, it went deeper than social media. That's why I didn't record it. She recorded me, apologising to her.

I told her, sorry, and she explained that she was terrified because children were in the house. And I understood it. What were you doing in the house? Was it a doing in the house? I don't know. It was a stupid video.

Like, I got... pair pressure to say. I don't say it like in that way, but... Or somebody else's fault? I'm not blaming on no one else. I mean, you break into a house with a woman and a husband and two young kids. I went into the house on my own accord.

No, I'm just saying, okay, you went through their door, right? But it's not your house. You're not supposed to be in there. Oh, no shit. You are causing a lot of alarm to that poor woman and to her children who were in the house. You then terrorize this poor elderly woman and take a dog away and traumatize her. Oh, it's a story about this.

about that. Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Let me speak. Yeah, because no, no, no, no, no, I'm going to tell you. Let me talk about that situation. No, for the viewers who, no, wait a minute. Wait a minute. For the viewers who, for the viewers who don't know what you've done, hold up, hold up. I'm going to tell them. No, you can hold on. No, you can hold on. I'm explaining, I'm explaining, I'm explaining, I don't just keep talking like an idiot. I, right? Right, don't. Let me finish what, the viewers don't know you did. I. You go up and you do these things. You take a dog from an elderly woman. You take a dog from an elderly woman. You leapfrog over the top of an orthodox Jewish man standing at the side of the road, minding his own business.

You go up to women in the street and say, do you want to die? It wasn't a woman, it was a man. There were also women that you did this too. There was a naval woman there, but I only say it to the man. Right. You shouldn't be saying it to anybody. Fair enough, but what happened. Why, in the name of so-called prankster humor,

why cause so much alarm and distress to so many people? Do you get your kicks out of doing that? Not necessarily, but you can say that this whole public outroar just makes me laugh because people are getting hurt over something that didn't happen to them. And that's how I see it as. What do you mean? People are getting hurt over something that didn't happen to them. Everyone acts like they have this persona like they don't care or social media is a facade, this, this and the other.

But when me comes out and does the mad thing, everyone has something to say. It's the mad ting. It's the mad thing. It's the mad thing. You already said it's the mad thing. It's a mad. It's a mad. It's a kind of thing anybody could do.

and you do it for kicks and you do it for clicks and you get your little moment on TikTok and presumably your peer group that you referenced earlier they all think good on you, good on you, Mizzy, this is hilarious. Meanwhile, some poor woman thinks you've stolen her dog and is traumatised. Another woman has a two kids and you're bursting into their house uninvited. You're jumping on Jewish people.

See, I was... Jewish people, hold up a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, no, stop. You did. It was a Jewish person, cool. But there was a trend going around on TikTok called FreeO-O. I've done this to numerous people, black people, white people, age any types of people. I don't discriminate. So stop saying an orthodox Jewish person, like I only targeted him and it was only him that I went from. Why are you targeting anybody in that

man? Why am I targeting anyone? It was a trend. It was a trend. I just done it for a trend. What's the trend? What's the trend? Free OO, jump over someone at the time of the beat. However much you scare them? However much you scare them. Or even if you pushed them into a car? No, that didn't happen, though, because I saw it. It didn't happen by chance. It didn't happen. A lot of the stuff that you do could have consequences far more serious. But you don't care, do you? As long as you get a laugh. I have remorse for all of these things.

You don't have any remorse. What do you mean I don't have any remorse? How are you telling telling me? You have no remorse? Do you live in my life? Huh? Are you there for my parents? Have you been there in my life?

What's your life? Presumably? Presumably, you're about... Are you about? You're about to tell me the sob story, are you? There's not a sob story. There's no story about my story about my life that makes you do this. I've been doing this for fun.

On all off camera, I do my whole life, I do it for fun. On or off camera, I do my tin. Tell me about your life. What justifies this? What's happened to you that makes you think you're justified in doing this? What do you mean tell me about my life? Well, you said you did nothing about your life. You're trying to get on to me because I'm black. Because you're black?

Yeah, I guarantee if the white person... I don't give a damn about your skin color. Really? No. Why don't care of what color your skin is? I just think you're an idiot. Oh, thank you. I think you're idiot too. That's fine. You're perfectly entitled to.

Yeah, so are you. The show's called Unsensored. I think you're an idiot for what you've been doing. I also think you're an idiot for what you've been doing. I also think you're an idiot for playing the race car when no one's mentioned your skin color. Really? Okay, you don't have to mention it to... I don't care about your skin color, Missy.

I care about the fact that you've been terrorizing all these people for a sustained period of time. I also care about the fact you've only got a tiny fine today, no deterrent to you whatsoever. You don't show any real remorse. You don't really care, do you? The UK laws are weak, simple as. The UK laws are weak, simple as, and that's not my fault.

That's not my fault. What do your family make of it? what you've been doing. What do my family make? Well, I don't chat to my mom anymore. Why not? Why not? Because I just don't talk to her.

It's irrelevant to you, but I just don't chat to her in it. And why else? My sisters are calm, but obviously, they don't fully commend what I do. Do you any of your family condemn what you do? No, of course not. Like, obviously... They think it's all perfectly normal? No, there's certain videos that they'll be like, no, you can't be doing that.

Like, especially just walking into the random houses, one. Certainly not. But that was more of a spur of the moment thing. I got egged on and my ego got a hold of me. And I realized that at that moment, and that's why I went to apologize the next day, after this all blew up out of proportion, and I felt like bad personally.

I don't think you felt that. Okay, well, you can say that. I think you felt bad. So you're untoward to me. Why are you're talking? I'm talking, I'm talking, I'm talking. I'm talking, I'm talking, I'm talking. It's fine. I'm talking.

Carry on being an idiot. Okay, okay. We are siding of districts every time. I'm actually not going to call you Mizzy, because it's obviously a stage. I'll call you Bikari Bronze, right? All right. Bacari Bronze, right?

Let's try and talk to each other as human beings. All right, Pearce Morgan. Yeah, I'm trying to understand why there's no real remorse here. Why do you not understand what the consequences of your actions of being? I went to go, apologize off social media. I could have recorded that apology and that would have been another viral video, whether it's hate or whatever. Literally, hate brings money.

Hate brings likes, hates brings views. It doesn't matter. Love or hate, it still brings views. Why would you prefer to do the hateful stuff? It's not like I prefer to do the hateful stuff. It's just like it's easier to do the hateful stuff. Why are you laughing? And obviously,

I don't think it's fun, but you're a funny person. You do think it's funny. You do, I've seen the videos. You do think it's really funny. At the time, I think it's funny, my fan base thinks it's funny and it's we outside, in it? It's a movement. But deep down, deep down, being free and not letting anyone tell you nothing. That's why I can do all of this stuff. I have, I'm the most hated person on the internet right now.

No, you're not. Okay, then, whatever you say, in it? Whatever you say, most people watch this will have never heard of you and care even less. Well, now they are. You just brought it to me. No, they'll just look at the way you're behaving now, and they'll think, yeah, he's a complete moron. All right, and you're a complete moment. You keep cutting me, interrupting me when I'm trying to talk.

Because you keep talking in his animated manner, trying to stop me asking you any questions. And then you say, is it because I'm black? Is it somehow it's about a racial thing? See, he's going back to the race color? Why are you going back to that? I said that once. No, you mentioned it.

I didn't. I've never once mentioned your skin color. All right, cool. I don't care what color you are. All right. If you were white, I'd have exactly the same view about your moron. behaviour.

Alright. But I'm curious, who in your family is there to tell you this is wrong? Why do you need to go to my family? I'm my own person, so talk about me, not my family. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because you don't... Talk about me, not my family. Yes, but here's the problem.

What's the problem? You are clearly a product of your upbringing. No, I'm not. I'm my own person. I've always been my own person. You've had no one to tell you this is wrong. Of course people have told me it's wrong. Family, friends, everyone's told me this wrong. Who?

Who's told you as wrong? What do you mean? My own mother told you this wrong? Right, so your mother doesn't like what you're doing. Of course, yeah. So why don't you stop doing it? Because my mother told me to stop doing something. Okay, that's your mother.

You listen to your mother, you listen to somebody else. I'm my own person. I'm illegally at adult. So I can do what I... What am I going to do now? What am I going to do now? Twitter, Mizzy is banned and I'm going to be on Twitch. Yeah, I'm going to start streaming on Twitch, IRO streams,

gaming streams. My Twitch is Mizzy is live if you want to get out that. But yeah. Do you want to try and come up with a sincere apology or not? Though I don't need to come up with no sincere apology. I really have my own. remorse and I already... You don't have any remorse, do you?

What do you mean? Okay, then whatever you... To you, it's all a bit of a jake. And if you steal some old woman's dog, it's all a bit of fun. If you jump on a Jewish man, it's all a bit of fun. If you run into people's houses with young kids and terrorise them, it's all a bit of fun. But what I'm saying to you is... Nothing really matters. What I'm saying to you is, there's been plans to change up everything.

Can you... You're just no help in it. You just talk your own thing and you have your own set, morals and yeah. So that's you. No, it's not a bad morality. Okay, cool, cool, cool. Whatever you say, I'm still talking, I was still talking. You're interrupting again, again, please.

Here's Morgan. Why did you keep interrupting you, bro? Let me tell you, we're going to put both of ourselves out of this misery and we'll just end it there because you are, as I said at the start, you're just a complete moron. And so are you. So until you stop being a moron, you will be treated like a moron. You are Mizzy, the moron.

For the record, he wasn't paid for this, obviously. I feel like paying viewers actually. Keeps through that with it. Unsensored next from this. idiot to a far more heartwarming story, the Rocky Balboa of golf. Michael Block's story has inspired the world unlike this, and he'll be with me next to tell me. Welcome back to Piers Morgan, Unsensible. A few days ago, I opened this show by saying in a world of moaning and groaning, whining and wailing, sulking and complaining,

we should all be a little bit more like Michael Block. He's the 46-year-old dad and local golf Club Pro, who just lit up one of golf's major tournaments in spectacular fashion. Through sheer force of will, he made the cut at a major PGA tournament for the first time last week where he electrified the crowds.

Huge crowds, it came for him by the end, paired with superstar Rory Macarroy and then dunked a ridiculously improbable hole in one that will be replayed for years to come. Along the way he charmed and delighted millions with his humility, his humor, his emotion and his

hand-do spirit. And we now know a little bit more about how he did it and why we should indeed all be a little bit more like Michael Block. It boils down to two short phrases and four words. Firstly, scrawled on his golf balls of the words, why not? That's what he once said to his caddy who just told him he was one putt away, a 22-foot putt, from making the US open. And he nailed it, because why not? Secondly, his son Dylan, his caddy for him in the past, apparently did something simple but extraordinary when Block's confidence was seriously flagging a few years ago. He said, look inside your shoes, Dad.

And when Block did, he saw the words, don't quit. I love that. Some people might think I've lost my marbles for banging on about a golfer all week. But for me, it's not about golf. It's not even really about sport. It's about being a human being who's had a dream all his life. And when he got the chance to realize that dream,

he grabbed it by the scruff of the net. neck. I called in the Rocky Balbao of golf for exactly that reason, and I never missed an opportunity to play the Pierce Morgan mantra for winning, not waning, spoken by the man himself. Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place, and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me or nobody is going to hit as hard as life. But it ain't It ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit

and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done. Well, no one personifies that spirit more than my next guest. If that doesn't get you moving, nothing will, right? Ironically, when my producers told me that Michael Block was unavailable for interview on Monday, I had two short phrases for them.

Why not? Don't quit. So I'm delighted to say Michael Block now joins me. Live from the Colonial Country Club in Texas. Michael, a great honor to have you on Pierce Morgan, on Center. I want to start by an admission. Until last week, I'd never heard of you. Like probably most people who watched you. And then by the end of the week, the whole of America knew you,

the whole world knew you, and you had endeared yourself to tens of millions of people around the world. How do you feel? What's it been like to be Michael Block in the last few days? It's probably Pierce. I mean, you know how it feels, but for us average folks like me, yeah, it's exactly what you would think. Your brain just is numb. It's insane. You can't comprehend what's even going on. It's nuts. I'm literally just floating around at this point. And thank God I've got a whole bunch of people here helping me get through it. And I got a couple more interviews. And then I'm going to get my clubs back out and I'm going to practice all afternoon and get ready for tomorrow's tournament.

This is one of the great benefits already. You're being invited to take part in tournaments, which you wouldn't otherwise have been playing in. Otherwise, he'd have been back at your local club, teaching people how to play this game that you love. You're 46 years old, and you've had this burning dream for so long to actually realize that dream,

to compete against the very best in one of the great major tournaments, and then to drain that ludicrous hole in one where you didn't even need the ball to. bounce like the rest of us or go along the ground like the rest of us. It just went straight in the hole with Rory McElroy haggling you, thousands

of spectators going nuts, millions watching at home going nuts. That moment, I mean, is that the dream realized for you? Whatever happens next? You know, I mean, I've been playing tournament golf for, my goodness, 40 years. I've never had a hole in one in a tournament in my life. And for the ball to go directly into the hole, it was almost like somebody just grabbed it out of the air and threw it in

whole under those circumstances, it's unbelievable. And I guess that's why the stories is what it is. I mean, I couldn't have asked for a better timing of making a shot in my entire life. And it happened under those circumstances, playing with one of my idols, Roy McElroy, playing in front of the Rochester, New York fans who were absolutely behind me 100%. And I wasn't even thinking about the millions of people behind all the cameras. I was just sitting there wanting to let that crowd go absolutely crazy, and I guess I did exactly what I needed to do on that hole.

You showed so much emotion throughout the whole process of this tournament, and yet your wife has said that you never cried when your kids were born, when your two sons are you a very loving dad, and they're both very good young golfers. You never cried when they were born, but you've been wimping away for the last four days. How do you explain you find this more emotional? Oh, boy.

You could say I love the game of golf unbelievably, but I mean, obviously I love my kids more. I love a lot of things more than golf, but golf is just this passion and it's a sport. And the only time I had ever cried ever before I started crying about my own game was watching Rudy and watching the movie Rudy. And when he puts that, you know, all the all the teammates come in and put their jerseys down so Rudy can play. Yeah. That's the only other time I remember ever having that emotional state and actually, come into tears. And so now I feel like that every time I hear somebody tell me these items like I had no idea that I was in the next PGA championship or how much I won or what

other tournaments I got into. And every single time I hear these great things, it just brings me to tears. And it's been amazing. And I am definitely an emotional roller coaster right now. I mean, one of the most extraordinary of all the remarkable moments you've had is that you've got, I think, three or four thousand text messages. And you were told by something. from Nike. Look, you better check them because in the middle of them is one from Michael Jordan, who'd seen you were wearing a pair of his sneakers. Have you found that text? And what did he say to you? The second that I got the word, I go, what? I go, Michael text me? I'm like, I didn't see it. And they're like, you're kidding me. I'm like, no. And so I just started scrolling and scrolling,

and I've literally thousands upon thousands of texts. And half of them don't have a name. And I definitely didn't have his name in my context. So I kept on scrolling. He only found it. And he basically said something down to the lines that this is why he loves the game of golf so much. And my big request from him is that I want to spend one of those days with him at his course and play 36 holes with him and his friends. And that just will make my life complete. I mean, Michael Jordan, for many, the greatest athlete to ever play any sport, to be taking

time out of his life to text you, Michael Block. That's a remarkable thing, right? I don't think, you know, outside of my friends and family, nobody ever text me before last week. So, yeah, having Michael Jordan and all the other texts I've had since then, it's ridiculously fun and exciting and very, very surreal. What does your wife say about this? I mean, she's been, let's say behind every great man is a greater woman. She's lived this dream with you, I guess, vicariously through the good and bad, often bad, I guess, often tough. certainly. It's not easy to be a journeyman professional golfer. How important is she being to you?

Unbelievable. She's been there for me all the way. She stood by me, you know, when I was making $8.50 when I started my job. And I always said, trust me, honey, trust me, I'm always going to have you covered ever since then. And that's been always my goal, right, to be able to raise my family in a great spot in Southern Orange County in California, which isn't easy. And it's been huge. And she's just a rock for me. And she understands what I've been through, the good and the bad. And she's going to come in, hopefully, Saturday here to Fort Worth.

I just have to make the cut. What did your boys say? Because I know at least one of them often caddies for you, but didn't on this occasion. What did they make of this? Their dad, their hero, suddenly becoming the world's hero? I've never, you know, I've never heard my oldest one say so many positive things about me. Usually, you know, I was always the enemy and the, you know, the guy that he was trying to beat on the golf course. And, you know, my youngest one, Ethan, he's a sweetheart.

He's always been the same way. But now all of a sudden, Dylan's chimed in, and he thinks Dad's pretty cool now. So it's pretty awesome. You know, it's pretty awesome. As a father, it has a 16 and 18-year-old boys for them to look up to their pops is really awesome. And I haven't seen them since. I've not seen them for one second. So I can't wait to be back in California here

whatever it is by hopefully Sunday night and give them big hugs. Dylan, of course, was cadding for you when you had a low moment. I think in 2018, you were feeling low about your game. And he said, look in your shoes, Dad. And it just said the words, don't quit. How important was that moment to you?

He was 13 years old. I just made a triple bogey. I had to finish in the top 20 of that tournament to get into the PJ Championship in 2018 at Belle Reef Country Club in St. Louis. I grew up a mile from Bel Reef Country Club, so it was my number one priority checklist to make happen. So I'm walking off this whole just making a horrible mess of it, triple bogey. And I'm walking off, he's 13. He's like this high, right?

He's a little guy. And he says, hey, dad, he goes, dad, did you look in your shoes? And I'm like, no, buddy. I just got these last week. And he goes, he goes, it says, don't quit. So you're not going to quit on me. And I mean, I got emotional at that point, too. I'm like, my kid saying that to me.

I mean, come on, let's go. And I refocused and I got into a playoff. I made a birdie in the playoff, and I got into the PGA championship in 2018, which was unreal. It was amazing. And it was also amazing that your golf balls have the words, why not?

And the story's great, where you're qualifying for the USO being a 22-foot put. Why not is what you and your caddy. You said, why not? Why shouldn't I get this in? And you had the same attitude. Actually, I watched the interviews as you progressed in the PGA tournament.

you just kept thinking, rather than downplaying the fact you were there, you kept saying, well, why shouldn't I be here? I'm a professional golfer. On my day, I can compete with these guys, but to actually then compete with these guys at their level, to be with Rory McElroy and play as well as he did on that final day. That for you as a golfer, what a moment. I'll tell you what, everyone should live that way,

whether it's going to a business meeting or a sport or going to your softball game or whatever it might be. I mean, if you live with that mantra, why can't it happen to me? It's going to work. It's a positive. One of the biggest things for me is to take the negatives out of the brain and replace them with positive.

So if I'm thinking positively, I can't think about two things at the same time. So I'm going to keep focusing on that. And that's worked out beautifully for me. So I keep that mantra going and I kept it going last week. I'm going to keep it going this week and hopefully the rest of my life. And I'm trying to teach my boys to do the same thing. And for people watching me, who have their own dream, whatever it is,

not necessarily gold, just a dream in life. You've realized your dream at 46, where many may have given up hope. What is your message to people living a dream of any age given what you've just achieved? Well, if you're passionate about it and you work as hard as you possibly can, you're going to give yourself the best opportunity

to have it happen. Is it a guaranteed to have happened? Absolutely not. But at the end of the day, you know, when you're about to leave this planet, you can look back at it and you said, I gave it 100% because the last thing I'm going to do is leave this planet thinking I only gave it 60%

or, hey, you know, maybe I'm just too tired. I'm going to go home and relax. Now, go out, play that extra 9. Go out, practice a little harder. Go work on that, you know, presentation you're going to give the next day a little harder. Give it that extra 100%. And when it's all said and done,

you'll be way happier about it for yourself. Finally, Michael, it's traditional, of course. Whoever gets a hole in one in golf buys everybody in the clubhouse a drink. And, in fact, Brooks Keppko won the tournament when he saw you, went, I hear the beers are on you, buddy, or worse of that effect. When you go back to your club, will you be buying everybody in that clubhouse? We're going nuts on your behalf, watching their pro take the PGA by storm. You're going to go back and buy them all a drink?

A hundred percent. Thanks, Pierce, for saying that. You know they're going to take me for sure up on that now. So, yeah, I will. As long as they were in there for that, you know, when they were going nuts, when that hole in one, everybody that was in there at that point, without a doubt, drinks are on me when I get back.

And just to clarify, the moment you knew you'd got that hole in one, better than sex, Michael? Absolutely not. You thought about that. I don't even saw that's a genuine answer, but you thought your wife's watching this, didn't you? Be honest.

You're horrible. That was great, though. Michael, I'm going to get some for that. You are. Eventually, you managed to get the right answer out. What did Rory McElroy say to you just finally? Because you were playing with this great guy. He was so moved, I think, by the whole experience. He said you had bigger crowds following you than him. And he hugged you at the end.

What did he say to you? Oh, he was instrumental. How sweet he was and how nice he was to me the entire time. Took me under his wing, as did Rosie on Saturday. yesterday. That was huge. That's probably one of the reasons I was able to shoot a 71 that final round and have that stuff happen. But he just said keep it going. Just be you. That's what I kept in here from a lot of the guys. Just be you. Keep doing what you're doing. And that's what I'm going to do. I'm just trying to be me still. I'm out here in Texas now. I'm going to do the

exact same thing I did last week. Does that guarantee that I'm going to have a hole in one or finish 15th? Absolutely not. But you guys all know that at the end of the day, that when I leave here and when I leave Texas and go back to California, I gave it everything I had. Michael, you're fantastic. Honestly, I loved the interviews through the progress of that tournament. I love the hole in one. I love the magic of it all.

I love the hope and inspiration you've given every golfer like me in the world playing a round off 16 and hoping that one day maybe we could do what you did. You lived a dream for a lot of us, a lot of pros, a lot of everyone actually living a dream out there. Thank you for that. And congratulations, honestly.

It's one of the great sports stories of recent years and I loved every second of it. Hey, Pierce. Thank you so much and thanks for having me on. Good to see you. Well, on says the next, should British police be a little more German when taking on eco-warriers who try to shut down our roads and public transport? I debate that with the PizPack next. Welcome back to Pierce Morgan, Uncensored, a game of two halves this evening when it comes to our interview guest. Talk to the contributor, Esther Cracker, is here.

The Mirrors Associate editor, Kevin McQuire. Talk to your presenter, Rosanna Lockwood. Well, welcome to all three of you. Yeah, a game of two halves, Kevin. perhaps the best and the worst of humanity so far dragged out for the deletation of our viewers. Look, let's start with this kid, Mizzie, the TikToker. I didn't actually want to be too tough with him

because he's 18 and he thinks he's a prankster. You know, who knows how malevolent is thinking really was. He probably just thought it was all a bit of a jabe. He's not got much of a deterrent today. I mean, a 360-odd-pound fine. And if you do it again, you get a... more tough centres. Isn't that the right message

to send the kids like this? No, but I think what he really needs is a mentor of somebody to take him in hand because, look, he didn't feel sincere in his apology. No. But he's a clever, smart lad.

He's got talent there. I mean, he wants to harness it because you can't have him going around causing trouble for families and it's noticeable. No, I'm sorry. He took the dog of an old woman. He didn't take it from a six foot two

gym bunny with a rocky. He's not clever or smart. He's part of a narcissistic generation that thinks they can do whatever they want to be laughed at on the internet with likes and tweets. He makes a very good case for bringing back corporal punishment. He was completely not remorseful. He was completely

What would happen if he'd pull this stunt or these stunts in Ghana? Oh my gosh. I was actually in the green room with if one were like if you were in Gano. I mean there are lots of coming in America he'd be shot right? I mean and that you know I mean I just felt with him and Rosanna yeah you then said where's your mother I don't talk to her

he didn't mention a father he just wonder who is there is his any kind of moral compass. By the end, all he was doing was promoting his next thing or whatever. I sort of agree with Kevin to a degree is that he's not an idiot. I mean, I called him an idiot for his idiotic behaviour, but to actually do what he was doing, he's got some ability.

He just harnesses it in completely the wrong way, right? I mean, how do you harness that and make him think that there's a better way to make money and to have a life? At 18, unfortunately, it might be too late. And watching it was quite uncomfortable watching. because I felt like he was about 14 or 15, but he is a legal adult, as he said himself. But it's not TikTok's fault, as some people have said,

you know, we need to regulate the social media platforms, but it is something to do with the attention, the attention that these kids needs. And he was saying, I don't care if I'm liked or disliked, I just know I want to be talked about. And that's something, you know. Well, look, I'd be the last person on earth to condemn that philosophy.

But I just think that what he was doing, again, I agree with you about the kind of things he was doing. It's a form of terror that he was doing. Albeit, I'm not entirely sure he understood that. And for him to play the race card, I'm so sad. I think that's what incensed me the most. It's because we've given people like this an avenue to just abuse the system. This is not a race issue.

And if actually, if he wasn't the parts of the world where they're majority black people, he would never get away with this. Because discipline is quite strict in other parts of the world. Well, it's nothing to do with his skin killer. Exactly. No, but he's not had the easiest start in life. I'm sorry. That's not an excuse.

But it's an explanation. Why he's behaving, and it's why somehow give him something constructive in his life. Because he is talented. Yeah, but you see, you see, Rosanna says TikTok isn't responsible. I'm not so sure about that. These social media companies, they don't want to be regulated like publishers or broadcasters. They do allow their platforms to be misused in this way. This kid was racking up loads of likes and attention and buzz and noise without TikTok doing anything about it.

You know, when you start terrorizing, going into people's homes, and when they've got young kids in there, or you're taking an old woman's dog, that shouldn't be allowed to be on a platform. Where is the regulation of that context? Well, it does raise the question. This kind of behaviour has been happening forever with teenagers. You know, unfortunately, pranksters, you know, bad apples. There's going to be people out there.

It's just now that they can video it and share it amongst themselves, does it encourage me? Well, the other thing that's going on, of course, are the Just Stop Oil protesters. And we've got a little lesson, I think, from our friends in Germany about how to deal with these people. This is what they do over there. Instant swat team, right, off you go. No mucking around. I mean, Esther, again, it just seemed to me we are very nambi-pambi with these protesters when they're genuinely causing mass disruption to people to go about their lives.

Well, it completely undermines our faith in the police and the people that are around to protect us because they always sort of break the boundaries between actually protesting and then putting the public at risk. And the Germans understand how to deal with these people. You can absolutely protest peacefully, but when you get to the point where you're gluing yourself to the M25, for instance, you're actually posing a risk to the public, and I think that's what we're really struggling

to get right here in this country. Should we go a bit more German, Kevin? Yeah, I wouldn't be against it. I believe in the right to protest, but I also think of you protest as a right for the police to come and move you out of the way, because you've got to feel for the frustration

of people who are driving, going to work or going home, whatever they're doing. Ambulance? When people just... Here's a hard question, though, Rosanna. If you go back and chart the history say the suffragettes. Yeah.

They did a lot of public disorder and disruption. But they made progress for that reason. No, no. They did. And that's my point. It's like, although I find them very objectionable the way they go about their business, they would argue with some merit, well, we're only doing what the suffragettes did when they wanted to get the vote. What's the difference?

They had to use disruptive tactics and disrupt the public to get what they wanted. A massive existential issue. You do have to do something about it. And Arnold Schwarzenegger said it this week in an interview. You know, he said the world, there are people around the world that are not happy the way governments are dealing with the climate crisis. You're going to need a form of activism. Here's the difference.

The suffragettes were fighting for the right to have rights that were being deprived of them. They're not being deprived of anything. That's the difference. These just-soil protests are wanting to take away people's rights to basically use whatever fossil fuels they want or for companies to produce fossil fuels and all of that. The suffragettes were fighting for the right to get the vote.

They're not being deprived of anything. They're trying to deprive the public. They're fighting for our existential... That's what they believe. It's true. No, but monks don't do this. Monks, okay, monks can argue that actually we're going to go to Oxford Street

and shout about how your soul needs to be saved if you don't become a Buddhist. Why does that make that okay if they do it? Yeah, but why can't you campaign against fossil fuels? My heart is with just stop... You can do it. I just think my head says if you block roads or you jump on a snooker table,

you're not going to win public support. to the public. What if I robbed your house and gave everything to a homeless person? Does that make me right? You're not planning to... I'm going to get break. Put it on TikTok if you do. Quick word. Quick word, Renner, about Tina Turner. Yeah, go on.

Because one of the all-time greats. I mean, I don't think I've been to a party in my life where at some stage there hasn't been a Tina Turner song. Yeah, I mean, absolutely. Look at her. She's a legend. She's so well-known. 83 years old, though. Anne was fighting a long illness. So, you know, tragic times indeed, but I don't think it's coming as a great.

very surprised for anyone. I was just talking to one of the makeup artists for your show, and she said she has worked with the lady who plays Tina Turner on the West End stage, and she said Tina Turner looked very well recently. I saw an restaurant in South of France once, and she just walked in and the whole place stood up. I've not seen that very often. It's an amazing moment. I've never heard anybody who didn't like her, didn't rate her, and you're right, the songs are just fantastic. And on the, you know, all the domestic violence that she enjoyed in the hands of her husband,

That also made her, I think, for a lot of women, an iconic figure. And her grit, absolutely. I mean, she worked for two years, I think, to pay off the debts that incurred from the separation from it. She worked it, she was on food stamps for two years. She worked in, you know, bars and, you know, jazz lounges. Incredible. What a performer. Yeah.

When she did, I mean, she sang simply the best. For what she did, simply the best, I mean, really, in terms of great foot stomping, you know, rock star women, I think Tina Turner for me was number one. talking of you number one, I'm off next week. And Rosanna, you got the short straw. You are filling in for me again. It's a bit like trying to hold the fort for Frank Sinatra in Vegas. But, you know, good luck.

I mean, I'm sloshing around in those big shoes I'm trying to fill. Well, I appreciate you doing. Thank you very much. Thanks to my pack as well. Unscensored next. Rondosantis formally takes on Donald Trump as he launches his bid for the White House tonight in an interview with Elon Musk, actually.

going live on Twitter. But can he win the battle for the heart and minds and success, potentially, of the Republican Party? We'll debate that next. Well, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is finally announcing his long-in-anticipated 2024 Republican presidential bid. Tonight is formally filed paperwork to confirm his candidate to see

and launch his campaign, not on TV. But a conversation on Twitter with its CEO, Elon Musk. We'll be interviewing Ron DeSantis, and he has quite an announcement to make. And it will be the first time that's something like this is happening on social media. Well, Donald Trump, who launched his second presidential bid in November last year,

repeatedly trash talk, the governor. The former president is well ahead in the polls at the moment. But this is a turning point for Desantis in the battle for the heart and soul of the Republican Party. Do you know what I'm best-selling author and columnist? Douglas Murray and Fox Nation and Outkick host, Tommy Leran. Okay. Douglas Murray, this is really interesting moment, I think, in this race,

because the narrative so far, Donald Trump is unassailable as Republican nominees, way ahead in the polls, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And yet DeSantis has managed to be polling in the mid-20s without actually announcing he's been running. How significant is tonight going to be, do you think? I think it's very significant. I mean, this is it. They're off, you know?

The Republican contenders who've been holding back all this time have finally started to come out and the race is now on. As you say, Pierce, I mean, Trump is so far ahead of the other candidates currently among Republican voters that you may say some people have that it's basically an unassailable lead. I don't think that's inevitable. As you say, I mean, Ronda Sanders is just about to start his campaign. From here on, he will do all the interviews. He'll be questioned about all of the things he hasn't yet had a chance to talk about.

He'll be able to talk up all of the policies and the successes he's had in Florida as government and talk about how he can roll them out on the national stage. So this is really the beginning of the race. There's one big conundrum for the Republicans in this race, which is essentially the Republicans desperately want Joe Biden to be the Democrat nominee, and the Democrats desperately want Donald Trump to be the Republican nominee. Almost all the polls show that if Trump goes against Biden,

Trump loses. But the question is, as it were, what do you do about the Republican primaries? And that's the first thing to get through. Yeah. I want to play, Tommy, before I come to you, just a clip from my interview with Ron DeSantis last month down in Florida at the governor mansion. Quite interesting when I asked him,

does he have what it takes to be president? Do you think you have what it takes to be president of the United States? Look, I think what it takes is to have a vision for the country, have the ability to exercise leadership and being willing to stand in that fire when it gets really, really hot and not back down. under pressure, and I think I have all those things. Tommy, I think people underestimate Desantis.

This is a guy who was a Harvard and Yale student graduate. He then became a special counsel, legal counsel, to the commander of SEAL Team 1 in Fallujah for a year in Iraq during the worst year for the war for the Americans. So this is a guy who understands the heat of battle quite literally. What do you make of him as a candidate? I think he's going to be an excellent candidate. And again, if we were talking about this race,

without the Trump card in it, so to speak. I think it would be a very different discussion, but he's gonna have a big battle ahead. And unfortunately, it's not gonna be really battling the left or battling the Democrats. That's something I think he could do with ease. It's going to be battling Donald Trump and making sure that while he takes on Donald Trump,

he doesn't offend the flock of Trump supporters that want Trump, only want Trump. They're always gonna be loyal to Trump. We've put ourselves in an interesting position here where we may very well, nominate somebody to our ticket that cannot win a general election out of loyalty alone, and that's

something that the GOP is going to have to grapple with and decide if loyalty is more important than winning the White House. I don't think it is, and I say that as a Trump supporter. I think that's an excellent point. I think that this is, as you said, Douglas, the conundrum facing it. Let me ask you a hypothetical.

Should Ron DeSantis win the nomination? Could you ever imagine Trump then playing the kind of role of Kingmaker, where he gets behind him to win the national election? Or do you think Trump would behave as I would expect Trump to behave and run off, throw his toys out of the pram

and try and run as an independent or something crazy? I was talking about this with somebody earlier today and I said, if you can, can you imagine somebody, anybody less likely to put the interests of their party ahead of themselves than Donald J. Trump?

I mean, at any point where he thinks he might lose when that comes to him, when that realization comes to him, perhaps he might realize that, you know, he doesn't want to be a two-time loser. I mean, here's a question I would ask Trump, have had the opportunity, which is, you know, given that you still claim that 2020 was rigged, what do you think is different in 2024? What are you doing about it? What have you done? And the answer, as usual, is nothing. Yeah. So, so for Trump, there is obviously, you know, going to be some point at which you'll have to

work out, you know, do I want to be a loser twice around, or do I want to present myself as having the ability to win, but haven't chosen not to go forward at some point this time. I just don't see him ever dropping out of this race without trying to destroy the Republican Party along with him. I'm afraid I share that fear, actually. If I was a Republican voter, I would be thinking quite hard about that. Let me ask you, Tommy, another hypothetical. Should Rond de Santis win the nomination? It's going to be tough for him. He's going to take down Trump. But if he does, and I wouldn't underestimate him at all from my experience of time with him, could you see the Democrats then creating some health problem with Joe Biden that means he can't run against somebody

literally half his age with three times energy and dynamism. And they then parachute somebody in like Gavin Newsom, say, the young Californian governor. Could you see that hypothetical happening? Yeah, I don't just see it happening. I think that is exactly what is going to happen if Ron DeSantis is our nominee. I think the Biden camp thinks that they can hide Joe in the basement yet again and beat Donald Trump because they're going after Donald Trump with the media, the legal system. I mean, you name it. They're throwing everything in the kitchen sink at Donald Trump. So I think that they feel rather comfortable running against Trump, even if everything is in disarray, quite literally in this country. But Ronda Santis, oh, I don't think so. I think exactly what you just said is going to happen. It's going to be Joe is going to step down due to his age. They're going to bring Gavin Newsome in. I guarantee you that is going to be the pathway if Ronda Santos is our nominee. They will not take that chance. of running Joe Biden against Rhonda Sanchez. Okay, I want two names from both of you. Douglas, I want to know who's going to win the Republican nomination

and who's going to win the 2024 election. Give me two names. Currently, it'll be Donald Trump getting the Republican nomination and Joe Biden being president. If it happens the other way around, by the way, if it becomes DeSantis versus Newson, that is a real election. That is.

That is the success of Florida versus the catastrophe of California. And I would love to see that race. I've only got eight seconds, Tommy. Give me two names. Republican nomination and the winner of the 2024. All right. I'm going to be optimistic. I do think that Trump is going to end up being our nominee.

And I'm going to tell you, I think he's going to win against Joe Biden because I think this party is going to do everything we possibly can. So Trump and Tommy. So I think it's going to be Trump Biden and I think Trump is going to win. I'm going to leave it. Douglas, Tommy, thank you both very much indeed. Tomorrow night, a special program, artificial intelligence. What do we know?

How dangerous. I've got big brains to debate a big, topic. And tomorrow night, keep it on censored. Good night.