Piers Morgan Uncensored - Piers Morgan Uncensored: The Osbournes

Episode Date: September 20, 2023

On tonight's episode of Piers Morgan Uncensored, Piers is joined by the royal family of reality TV, The Osbournes. Watch Piers Morgan Uncensored at 8 pm on TalkTV on Sky 522, Virgin Media 606, Freevie...w 237 and Freesat 217. Listen on DAB+ and the app.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Tonight on Pierce Morgan Uncensored, they're the Royal Family of Reality Television. The Osbournes are headline-making hellraisers. Tonight, the four of them, the big four, are live and uncensored. I have absolutely no idea what's about to happen, and nor do you. But I think we all know we won't want to miss it. Live from the news building in London, this is Pearce Morgan Unsensate. Good evening from London. Welcome to Pear's.
Starting point is 00:00:33 We're going to get to the Osbournes, live from Hollywood. shortly, but let's start with this. The word brawn evokes many powerful images, greasy, muscle-bound men toiling in factories, soldiers on the march, Rocky Balboa, Short Seniga, Popeye, me of course. It's also the name of a famous male grooming company, which mostly sells very butch-raisers to men to chisel the hair from their big, manly, butch faces. They used to run advertisements like this. Braun, system one, two, three, advanced shaving technology. No other shaver has three positions for a really close, comfortable shave.
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Starting point is 00:02:34 Gillette, another staple of the male cabinet, lost billions after the sudden to tell its customers like me that we were all Me Too Predators and this we could prove otherwise. Bud Light has lost $20 billion since partnering with trans-activist Dylan Mulvaney after customer staged a mass boycott. It's no longer the biggest
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Starting point is 00:03:08 Brawn dead. More on that in a moment with my special guests. They're one of the most famous families in the world. The family's antics, revealing their chaotic life and outrageous moments behind closed doors, became an international sensation when the show first aired on MTV 20 years ago. Where is it? Where is it? No, Dad.
Starting point is 00:03:39 If you get busted, I'll fucking bust your ass, man. What do you say? What do you say, Ryan? I hate Jack. Oh, don't be stupid. What's the fuck is that? Come on, Sharon. I'm fucking I'm fucking Ozzy Os.
Starting point is 00:04:02 I'm the Prince of fucking darkness. All the Osbournes join me now. Well, most of them, because my old friend, Sharon, of course, is still in makeup. which is the least surprising news of the millennium. But the three legends in front of me are there on time. The great Ozzy Osbourne, the great Jack Osbourne, the great Kelly Osborne. Welcome to Pears Morgan Uncensored. What was the last one up?
Starting point is 00:04:32 Yeah, I mean... Jack was the last one to get up this morning. Can I just say that have you waited... You take Trevor to get ready. You know that, Pierce. Well, Ozzie, having spent four years working with your wife on America's Got Talent, I'm very familiar with waiting for Charon. I don't think she'd been early in her life.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Well, you have. And let's start with you, Ozzy, because I'm thrilled to have you on the show. We called this show Piers Morgan uncensored. And when we named it that, I did actually think what would happen when we finally get Ozzy Osbourne live on the show,
Starting point is 00:05:07 how committed to being uncensored could we be? So I need to get from you, Ozzie, a solemn promise that you're not going to get me banned from the airways. Are you promising you're not going to get him banned from the airwaves? Oh, no, no, no. I won't get your band. Just fine. Just a good old finding.
Starting point is 00:05:29 We're going to get through a whole lot of stuff in the show tonight. But, Ozzy, let me start with you. How are you? You've been through all this health health. Well, I've finally had my last procedure two days ago. I can't believe I'll come to the end of it. It's all back up. The main thing is over now.
Starting point is 00:05:51 I'm done with the surgery, but it's been five years of absolute hell for me. And the family. My family have been so supportive with me, you know. I couldn't have done it without it. It's been really a bad scene. I have Parkinson's, but I never think about it. Yeah, and I think that's the biggest misconception.
Starting point is 00:06:13 It's like so many people think, you know, what's happened with dad over the last five years as a result of like Parkinson's, but it's really, it was the neck injury in the fall that he took in 2019. Well, actually, I was going to talk about this because in fact it goes back even further, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:06:29 Well, come to the Parkinson's in a moment, Ozzy. But if you go back, it actually goes back to when you had that horrendous quad bike crash in 2003. Yeah, yeah. Well, I just got to carry on, but I had a broken sort in my neck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:46 And I carried on work. I got into a shot I had that fall and then it just, everything came undone, you know. And then you get Parkinson's, and the state of the Parkinson's, I was listening to your podcast. Oh, blimey.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Got some tech issues, there. The condition of your Parkinson's right now, Ozzie, from what you were saying in the podcast, is that as long as you take the medication, it's pretty tolerable. Yeah, I mean, I haven't got Parkinson's the main, why? like a P2 or something, which is a genetic thing.
Starting point is 00:07:22 I don't know. Look, I don't get up in the morning and go, I'm somebody, you know, I don't gripe on you. Yeah, I'm going to, if you're still moving, you ain't going to be dead. I can't. Yeah. Nobody's talking. I think we'd be, am I detecting a rustling there to your right, Jack,
Starting point is 00:07:43 that your mother might have joined us? Yes. Yes, yes, she is. Yeah, here we go. It's me. Sorry, I'm late. Thank you for maintaining your reputation for always being late. You're okay, next door.
Starting point is 00:07:55 I know, I know. Can't help it. I had to do the washing up. So, Sharon, how are you? Yes. Good, my darling. Missing you and missing England. Yeah, well, we're going to come to that, actually,
Starting point is 00:08:12 and whether you're going to come back here or not. But on Aussie's health, it's great to see the great man looking so well, actually. But I know it's been a huge thing. for you as a family, the Aussie's been through this horrible stuff with his back, the Parkinson's obviously as well. And as a result, he's not been able to do what he loves most, and that's touring and being a massive rock star. What does it be like for you, Sharon, as the matriarch of the family, to be through the last few years with Ozzy like this? It's been, you know, I mean, so many people can relate, you know, who has a partner, whether
Starting point is 00:08:50 it's the wife or the husband, that's not well. changes your whole life. You know, you suddenly go, you're off in another direction and your life changes so drastically. It's, um, it's, it's really hard, especially in the summers, because, you know, every summer Aussie works and goes out and do festivals and, you know, we're traveling all over the world. And for the last five years, we've been, our life has changed, you know, dramatically. But on the other hand, it's great that I've had Ozzy at home for five years. He's driving me crazy. But we've been together every day for five years.
Starting point is 00:09:30 You know what's funny? I mean, what viewers probably won't know? But when I did America's Got Talent with you for all those years, we quite often have dinner. And Kelly, I want to bring you in here because one of my favourite ever Osborne stories involved you, which was a dinner. I think it was in Miami.
Starting point is 00:09:45 And it was me, your mum and dad, you and your boyfriend at the time, Luca, I think it was. And anyway, you suddenly announced halfway through that you were effing bored and that you were both leaving. You then departed from the room, went out in the back of the restaurant, and then you both dropped your trousers outside
Starting point is 00:10:07 and moonied through the window at the three of us left behind, the boring old stooges. And all I could think was, the Aussie and Sharon Osborne are two of the most outrageous people I've ever met, and they've now been branded boring. by their own flesh and blood. And the real outrageous one of this family,
Starting point is 00:10:23 isn't it? The torch had moved to you, Kelly. I do think that it didn't move to me. I grabbed it and ran with it, much to my own self-demise. But it was a boring dinner, so I laughed and made it more fun on my way out. It was not a boring dinner.
Starting point is 00:10:42 We were all being very entertaining, albeit not for you. Oh, yeah, I remember that in Miami. And weren't we at the vice-roy? Yeah. I can't remember. It was a fabulous dinner until you two mooned us. All I remember is your parents' shocked faces as you two moonied through the window.
Starting point is 00:11:06 And I found that one of the funniest things I'd ever watched was the outrage from your parents at this behaviour. Usually it's the other way around. Usually being Jack were outraged. Kelly, you're looking great. I'm dying over the fact that our parents just have to thank you. Yeah, how are you? How's your health?
Starting point is 00:11:23 How's your life? I'm really good. My life is amazing. I'm a new mother and just every single day that I get to take care of my baby and be his mom is the greatest gift I've ever been given in my life. And you looked at a long life of turbulence with your rock star father and decided that you two would have to get together. with a rock star?
Starting point is 00:11:52 Well, when you think about it, it's all I know. There must be something about the life. I mean, I always wanted to be a rock star, obviously. I'm a frustrated rock star already. But there's probably a truth to that, isn't it? It's a world that you all know so well, right? So actually, whilst it may seem strange to other people on the outside to think, well, why would you get together with a rock star?
Starting point is 00:12:14 To me, it was like, well, why wouldn't you? Because that's a world you know so well. It's so true. You know, you become like anything. You get your own little bubble and you're surrounded by the people that you work with all the time. So, you know, it's very natural that that would happen.
Starting point is 00:12:33 It's the same as me. If I'd have married an accountant or a lawyer, that would have been like, well, where did I find you? Do you know what I'm saying? It just wouldn't seem right somehow. And Jack, you're looking great. I know you've been clean a long time. You've had your health issues, multiple sclerosis,
Starting point is 00:12:55 but you're looking extremely well. And you're taking part in various TV shows, which are sort of Iron Man stuff. So how are you? Are you doing well? I'm doing great. Yeah, I'm totally, I'm hanging in there just fine. Like, it's, you know, kind of similar to dad. Like, as far as the MS goes, it's, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:13 I kind of, most days I wake up and I kind of forget that it is a part of my life at this point. So it's, you know, I'm not slowing down at all, which is great. You've also got four daughters. So the only other person I know with four daughters is my recently retired Army brother, Jeremy, he's got four girls. So I'm very familiar with the particular endurance test that you may be going through, Jack. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of emotion in my household.
Starting point is 00:13:43 So much emotion. But it must be great fun. I mean, I was slightly envy my brother. I've got three boys and a girl now. But when I see my brother with his girls, they are all doting on their dad. I mean, you are going to get very lucky with all these girls taking care of you, I think.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Absolutely. I love it. And I think boys are great. They're fun, but they seem to break everything. And, you know, my girls just kind of want to hang out, have cuddles, and, like, do cute things. And I'm totally fine with that. Now, Ozzie, you've been sitting there patiently listening to all this.
Starting point is 00:14:14 The question I've got for you is, When you're now a grandfather to all these kids, do you change nappies? I mean, are you a reformed? I know you didn't when you were a dad, but do you now? No. No. He runs for the hells.
Starting point is 00:14:33 No. Not a single... If Ozzy had to change a diaper, it would end up on the head or something. He wouldn't know what to do with it. But do you like being a granddad, Ozzie. I refuse to do. It's great.
Starting point is 00:14:46 I love my grandchildren. Do you think you're a better grandfather? Are you a better grandfather than you were father, Ozzie, do you think? Not really. I try. Am I asking the wrong person here? I can see the other's laughing. No, I, no, he is an incredible grandfather,
Starting point is 00:15:06 and my little boy lights up every time. I've got grandchildren in England. I don't see much, you know. Yeah. Yeah, you've got fun. Five? Five. Five.
Starting point is 00:15:17 You've got ten grandkids. Wow. Well, you may get a chance to see them because you've been talking a lot as a family about coming back to the UK. Let's take a short break. And when we're coming back, let's ask the big question. Are we getting you back?
Starting point is 00:15:31 And if so, when? All right. Don't hold your breath. Welcome back to Pittsburgh, Uncensensin, very uncensored, with the Osborne family over in Hollywood. Ozzy, I don't know this, But today's a special anniversary in your career.
Starting point is 00:16:11 It's the 43rd anniversary of the day you released Blizzard of Oz, your debut solo album. Wow. Did you know that? 43 years ago. 43 years ago, September the 20 of 1980. Wow. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:16:28 That's come quickly, Bill. That's how long we've been together, 43 years. No, a bit longer than the four years. Isn't that amazing, though? Absolutely. amazing. Yeah, it is. How does that make you feel, Ozzy?
Starting point is 00:16:44 43 years since Blizzard of Oz. Old. Very old. God. Sharon, I didn't ask you about your health, because interestingly, you've been on this wonder drug, supposedly, Zempic, but you've now come off it. So what was it like?
Starting point is 00:17:04 Did it work? And why did you stop? You can't stay on it forever, first. I lost, now I've lost over, I lost 42 pounds now and it's just enough. Ozzie's having a go at me because he says I look like Mrs Reagan. Nancy Reagan.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Nancy, it calls me Nancy Reagan all the time. So it's just time to stop. I didn't actually want to go this thing, but it just happened. And I'll probably put it all. on again soon. But what's it like to be on? I was in America recently
Starting point is 00:17:47 and it's just wall-to-wall adverts for it on TV. Everyone I know seems to be on this thing. What's it actually like a Zenpick to be on it? At first, I mean, you feel nauseous. You don't throw up physically, but you've got that feeling. And I was about two, three weeks where I felt nauseous the whole time. You get very thirsty
Starting point is 00:18:10 and you don't want to eat. That's it and that's why I keep saying you've got to keep this stuff away from younger from younger people because they will go berserk on it and it's not right I mean having been through it yes you lost by younger people you lost away but I mean I mean Kelly what did you think of your mom being on this? I think I saw what it did for my mom's confidence and how you know I can only speak myself food is an issue for me it always has been it always will be and to see mom free of that for a brief amount of time to where you don't have to think about it
Starting point is 00:18:56 because you don't think about it and you make smarter choices because when you are hungry you just eat what you have to to survive is what I witnessed with what mom went through but seeing the confidence and seeing how good my mom feels in her body, I think it's totally worth it. I mean, Jack, as a family, I'll ask Jack, just generally, as a family, you've all had various addiction issues at various
Starting point is 00:19:23 stages of your lives. Why do you think that is? Do you think you just have a particular addictive gene as a family? And how have you best learned to do with it? You've certainly dealt with what you went through very successfully. Yeah, I think
Starting point is 00:19:39 addiction is very much a genetic kind of abnormality. Some people have it. Some people don't. You know, personally speaking, it's something that showed up very early on in my life for me. Uh, you know, and, and for me, my solution was 12-step recovery. And it's something that I have, I participated in for the going on 20 years. I take very seriously. And it doesn't just stop there. Like I've, I've had to go into other 12-step programs to deal with other things as they've come up. So, you know, it's, uh, I'm a belief of, you know, once a cucumber becomes a pickle, I can never become a pickle. I can never become
Starting point is 00:20:14 I'm a cucumber again. Right. Sharon, let's get to the big question I posed before we went to the break, which is, where are you guys going to live? Because it's been lots of speculation. I've talked to you about it myself. That you would come back to the UK, that you were yearning really to bring Aussie home, as you put it, maybe lead village life.
Starting point is 00:20:31 A lot of people raised quizzical eyebrows and went, really, Aussie, Osbourne, and an English village, but that's where you guys came from originally. So where are you with this? Are you going to come home? Yes, we are. It's, you know, with Ozzy's issues, health issues, he's not been ready to leave this country and his doctors because of, you know, different things that are happening to him medically. And those are, you know, we feel we're in a good place right now. But we've had our house nearly 40 years.
Starting point is 00:21:05 And we haven't lived in it properly for over 20. So when you decide to go back in a house, you realize that everything's, got to be changed. So we've done everything completely in our home and it's taking forever. And in fact, I've got a very nice phone call yesterday telling us that they're digging up all the area around the house because every pipe, gas, water, everything needs redoing. So it's all good fun. That's the kind of call you really want, isn't it? Ozzie, how do you feel about coming back to Britain? Yeah, it's perfect. Well, I'm fair. I was telling people I'm going back because it gets next month
Starting point is 00:21:46 it didn't happen next month it doesn't know so now I don't say anything because I feel like an idiot I don't think it's going to happen Pierce I don't see it happening
Starting point is 00:21:58 why well I'm just I'm the only one of the family that's like this is a terrible idea but that's just me why do you think it's a terrible idea they're going to move back to they're going to move back
Starting point is 00:22:09 to welders they're going to be thousands of miles away from me Kelly all the grandkids and I'm like what are you guys going to do all day just like wonder around the house
Starting point is 00:22:21 I'm going to bake bread cakes I'm going to grow my own vegetables you know what I'm working on my wotness I will be very busy no Pierce you're going to end up seeing my mother more than I'll see my mother well I would like that
Starting point is 00:22:35 that's probably true I would like that because I love your mother as you know and I love being with this so that would be I would be a winner in this scenario as long as As long as there's no fistfights, it's good. We're good. We don't fist fight anymore. You know what? Sharon hasn't tried to strangle me for at least, I would say, at least 12 years.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Yeah. And the last time, the last time she rang to apologize when I was asleep in bed after the incident because Ozzy told her to, because even Ozzy thought she'd gone too far by trying to kill me. Voice of Reason. Yeah. He is. He is the voice of reason. It was actually a classic night where we met to discuss the fact we were going to work together on America's Got Talent. And the NBC executives were very excited about these two feisty Brits.
Starting point is 00:23:22 And I was like, this may not go quite how you think, guys. And it took about three minutes of the dinner before Sharon was screaming abuse at me. I returned some volleys. And at that point, she got up and began to literally strangle me. And at which point, Jerry Springer, God bless him, the late great Jerry Springer, who died earlier this year. He was there as the host. He got up. and led Sharon away.
Starting point is 00:23:43 He became his own bodyguard, like the guys on his show. And it was only when Sharon got back to her hotel, that Ozzy said, what happened? And he said, you're going to have to call him an apology for nearly killing him. And so you did. And that was that. And the next day, we went to work. Nothing had happened.
Starting point is 00:24:00 And the NBC execs were like, these Brits are completely crazy. And you two ended up like best friends. We did. I know. We did. And it was fantastic. Well, I mean, Ozzie, if you do,
Starting point is 00:24:16 did come back to Britain. What are the things you've missed most about Britain? Just the lifestyle. I like the cakes. I like everything about it. I've got to warn you, Ozzie. Whatever quaint idea you have about the state of Britain right now, it's in a pretty bad state. I mean, most people living here would prefer to go and live in Beverly Hills. I can tell you that. Because cost of living crisis is bad. The crime is really bad.
Starting point is 00:24:49 There's a lot of issues here that people are getting pretty fed up with. Even the rivers are leaking sewage. I'm surprised you're choosing this particular moment to come back, frankly. Well, it's not too dissimilar here. I was just about to say that. But crime is rampant, you know. We've got horrible fentanyl issues. Thousands and thousands of people dying on the streets.
Starting point is 00:25:11 It's, you know, I think, you know, the upside to what, you know, them moving back to England would be, you know, they have the land, they've got the space, they can kind of get left alone a little bit more out and, you know, where the house is. So there's that, you know, I mean, Dad, every time he steps set, you know, steps foot outside of the house to go to a doctor's appointment, there's some asshole photographer, like, waiting to snap a picture to be like, Ozzy's moments away from death.
Starting point is 00:25:36 And it's like, no, he's going to the doctor. Yeah. I mean, Ozzy, I think everywhere. Sorry, Sharon. You're going to say, no, no, no, no, I was just going to say everywhere. Everywhere is bad. everywhere. You know, the cost of living everywhere is insane. There's so much violence. It's, you know, the world's crazy right now. I mean, the different thing I thought about LA, I've noticed
Starting point is 00:26:00 the deterioration was just the brazenness of the crime. I mean, shootings in Beverly Hills. You know, a restaurant in Cannon Drive, I think, in the middle of lunchtime. You know, there was a shootout as people tried to steal a watch and somebody got shot on a nearby table, then literally in the same street. And this is right. in the middle of Gentile Beverly Hills. About six months later, a Lamborghini SUV outside another restaurant, which I go in a lot, they had a shoot out there,
Starting point is 00:26:27 someone trying to steal the Lamborghini. That didn't used to happen 10, 15 years ago in the middle of Beverly Hills. No, never. But then you've got everybody going into stores. You'll get a gang of 30, 20 kids going together, you know, take everything and go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:45 And then if they get arrested, they're back on the street. without any sort of bail or probation within minutes. And you see these mobs of people, particularly in California, it seems, steaming into the big stores, some very high-end stores or just basic supermarkets, and just stealing everything they can as a mob. And nothing seems to happen to them.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Nothing, because the laws are such that you're going, they'll arrest you for five minutes, and then you're back out on the street. You don't need bail. There is no bail. We're going to take another short break. We're going to come back and talk about some of your neighbors in California in Montecito. Because Kelly, in particular, you gave some views on the podcast about Prince Harry, which made a few headlines.
Starting point is 00:27:35 And we're going to be playing them back to you and hopefully expanding on the theme. That's after the break. Talk about to Pittsburgh and I said, some of the oldest bones have been Hollywood royalty for decades. Unlike the royal family. He hasn't stopped them voicing their opinions on them. Kelly took a podcast recently to tell us exactly what she thought of Prince Harry. I think Harry is a fucking g-a-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-t. I think he's a whining, whinging, whinging,
Starting point is 00:28:16 complaining, woe is me. I'm the only one that's ever had mental problems. Like, my life was so hard. Everybody's fucking life is hard. You were the prince of a goddamn country who dressed up as a Nazi and now you're trying to come back as the Pope, suck it. No.
Starting point is 00:28:39 You know what? I mean, I couldn't have put it quite like that, but I definitely share the sentiment. Sharon, when you heard Kelly there, I certainly have a way with words. Sharon, you've been slightly more polite about them whilst making the same point. It was all very distasteful, peers.
Starting point is 00:28:59 I was totally bored by the whining, the whining, the whining. and, you know, the curtsy, the thing she said about medieval times, her lunch with the Queen was like medieval times, which, as you know, is a Disney-type entertainment place for kids. And it's just so horribly disrespectful and just a wine fest. So here we are. It's quite interesting what's happened to them, isn't it? Because I lost my job because of Meghan Markle over that Oprah interview.
Starting point is 00:29:33 You, Sharon, then, disgracefully, lost yours on the talk because you basically said I was entitled to my opinion. Where are they now these two? Because it seems to me that people have basically just got bored of them, which is the most lethal thing of all for any public figures. Who's going to go first? I'll go first. I just think the proof is in the pudding, in the sense,
Starting point is 00:29:57 you've been handed the world and every major contract, you had podcasts, you have all of this, and you didn't deliver because you... There's nothing to do. Yeah, because you don't have it. And that's okay. And I think they do have a right to privacy, but that doesn't seem to me what they're looking for.
Starting point is 00:30:16 And Ozzy, let me ask Ozzy, actually, about Sharon getting fired from the talk. Because I felt so angry about that, that Sharon would be forced out of a job that she was brilliant. Because she was the star of that show. What did you make of it? I always said it was accessible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Yeah. So. We're looking for an excuse to get her up. Well, yeah, and it was a, it was a, it was the time when, like, what better excuse to kick someone off a show than, you know, start making wild allegations of, like, racism. And it was just, it was the, it was like the fad of the moment to just, you know, burn someone down just to, you know, wave the woke flag. And it was ridiculous. Yeah, it was completely outrageous, actually. I mean, Ozzie, to hear people call Sharon a racist,
Starting point is 00:31:13 knowing her as well as you do, how did you feel about that? When I first heard that she got, she's leaving the show, I said, well, Cheryl will stick up for her. She knows she's not a racist girlfriend. And it was Sharon. Cheryl that threw her under the bus.
Starting point is 00:31:35 She did. She never said a word in defense. No. And that was the thing that was so disappointing. It's like all these people that had worked with my mom for double-digit years, knew the whole family, knew everything. Not anyone came out and said, hey, actually, that's a pile of BS. And everyone just went with it because, for one, people couldn't defend my mom because if you do defend, everyone then jumps on you. and it was just nuts.
Starting point is 00:32:08 And you know, Sharon, the interesting thing, isn't it? If you go back to the start of it, I had to lose my job on Good Morning Britain here in the UK because I said I didn't believe a word Meghan Markle said. I wouldn't believe her if she wrote a weather report. Well, that's been completely vindicated by all the lies which have been exposed since, including stuff that was lied about in the Oprah interview.
Starting point is 00:32:29 So actually, if you take that as the starting point, everything that followed was completely nuts. It's just insanity And then it seemed, you know, that everybody was parted Do you like them? Do you not like them? Oh, I'm for them. I'm against them. And it's like, you know, they were given far too much importance Because what do they do?
Starting point is 00:32:52 Yeah. Well, Harry's done wonderful things with the games. He has done an amazing job with the games. Yeah, the Invincius games is a very good thing. It's service to his country was good. But the truth is, the only value they have to these corporations was to trash their families, all of them. And I just don't believe anyone can...
Starting point is 00:33:10 I mean, just... You guys are such an extraordinarily strong family unit through thick and thin. Always have been. It's one of the things I love about you most. When you see people who basically disown their entire families on both sides and then pretend they're happy,
Starting point is 00:33:27 I don't see how people can be happy when they do that. No. No, and the thing is, I've said there's so many times, peers, they're fine, but their children don't have any family. Yeah. No grandparents, no aunts, no uncles, no cousins, there's nothing. Nothing. Their babies have their mum and dad, and that is what is so terribly sad.
Starting point is 00:33:53 And they know nothing of their heritage. Where does this end, Sharon, for those two, do you think? I said it in the beginning in tears. It's going to end very, very badly. And I don't know why. It just keeps taking me back to Edward and Mrs. Simpson. It's like history repeating itself. Yeah. You know, and all of this, you know, cuddly, loving hands,
Starting point is 00:34:17 going everywhere together. It's so disingenuous. It's like, come on. Give us a break from all of that. Ozzie, having been through... Well, I was going to talk to you, Ozzie, about love. Because you have one of the greatest marriages for warts and all, good, bad and ugly.
Starting point is 00:34:36 You've had it all over the decades, but you have one of the greatest marriages, I know, because it's actually based at his heart on true love. And for you, what is it about that woman on the end of that sofa right now that's kept you sitting there and so in love with her for so long? I couldn't live there. I've tried. I can't live there.
Starting point is 00:35:01 And she'll strangle him if he leaves. Because when I leave, I come back until my clothes is destroyed. Stop it, does he? And Sharon, for you, what is the secret of longevity in a marriage, do you think? You have to realise that you can't change anybody in its acceptance. And, of course, the bottom line is love, but you accept each other, you know, as you are. You can't change anybody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:32 We're going to take a short break. They have to change themselves. Yeah, I think that's right. You evolve as people, right? But I do think when I look at the four of you sitting there, and I remember I think about all the scrapes you've been through collectively, individually, whatever. It's great to see you guys sitting there as this fantastic family unit. You know, all of you having come through difficult times.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Yeah, we're blessed. We really are. But on that note, I'm quitting the family and I'm moving to Montecito. Let's take a short break. I want to come back and talk about some stuff in the news. news. Russell Brand, big scandal over in the UK. I want to get your take on that. Also, Donald Trump, will you become president again? What do we feel about that? So let's come back. And also, Ashton Coucher, Sharon, you described Ashton Coutcher as the single worst celebrity you'd ever met. I want to find out why. So we'll come back after the break with those three stories.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Welcome back to Pittsburgh and unscensored. The Osbournes are still with me, live in their home in Los Angeles. They've got a brilliant new podcast. It's basically the band have got back together. I've listened to the first couple of episodes. Absolutely brilliant, hilarious, sharp, outrageous, funny, all the things you'd expect from the Osbournes. Let's take a look. Hi, I'm Kelly. Jack. Sharon.
Starting point is 00:37:00 And I'm the boss Ozzy. Yeah, Osborne podcast. And we're back after a five-year hiatus. On the internet, conspiracy theorists are always talking about, oh, there's sex, sex cults in L.A. Have you ever been invited to a satanic sex cult? Never. I've never seen one of you, Kelly. I've never even been invited to a sex party, let alone...
Starting point is 00:37:21 I need to go to a happier place. I feel romantic. Just go to bed, darling. That right there was an invitation to a sex cult, wasn't it? Oh, scary. Let's talk about some stuff that's happening in the news. Russell Brand, obviously, you know, major celebrity figure on both sides of the pond for a long time. now accused of rape and sexual abuse
Starting point is 00:37:51 and a big investigation by the Sunday Times and Channel 4 dispatches. Sharon, what do you make of this story? You know Russell Brand. Yeah, I... But I, you know, look, being a woman, when I hear these, you know, cases where women have been abused and taken advantage of,
Starting point is 00:38:12 I automatically go to the woman's side because I love women, I care about them. And so I'm already on the women's side. But, you know, you want to know details. You want to know everything involved. The only thing I can say about Russell Brand is the two things that I don't like was when he spoke about, one of them is a very good friend of ours. Kimberly Stewart about what he'd done to Kimberly Stewart in front of her father.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Well, I was there. I was actually there, you know. Sir Bob Gildolf. Well, I was there. Oh, he was there when he boasted about having slept with Kimberly Stewart. And Rod Stewart was there. And Rod Stewart was the GQ Awards 2006. And Rod Stewart went up on stage and absolutely took him down.
Starting point is 00:39:01 And he called him out. And he said, you do not boast about something when you haven't done it. And Rod afterwards was telling me he was very pleased to have put him in his place. And he said, you know, it was really disgraceful. So I think with Russell Brown, there's always been a lot of embellishment as well as the boasting. Yeah. Yeah, and it's, it's, um, you just don't do that to people's families. When you, when that father is in the room, he's done it twice now.
Starting point is 00:39:26 And that's the thing that I, you know, sticks with me. But this situation he's going through right now, I, you know, I don't know details. So I can't comment on it. I mean, Jack, it seems to me, we've been through the Me Too times up. A lot of bad people have had their due come up. And some people were unfairly caught up in that and, you know, exonerated. I do believe in due process for everyone in these situations. It seems to me that until you actually have the police look at this properly,
Starting point is 00:39:53 it's unfair. I mean, at the moment, he's being cancelled, left, right and centred by everybody and everything and vilified and changed, because everyone's assuming every word of the allegations are true, but they remain at the moment allegations. Yeah, I was going to say just that. You know, we've all known Russell going on 20 years, and, you know, you'd like to sit there and go, like, that I don't see him.
Starting point is 00:40:16 You know, he's done some vulgar, outrageous, crazy things, but you never want to assume that someone you know and is a friend or, you know, an acquaintance is capable of that. But you, you know, we got to see. You know, we saw it with the Danny Masterson situation. I mean, I was a personal friend of Danny's. Like, I had been to his house. I'd played poker with him.
Starting point is 00:40:36 I'd, you know, I actually knew some of the victims. And so that story was like, oh, my God. Like this is, it's when you know someone and then they get found guilty, it definitely shakes your foundation because you never know what happens behind closed doors. Ozzie, let me pivot to something else, which is the American election coming next year could end up being Biden v. Trump again. Biden, at the moment, looking extremely old and frail, Trump all pumped up as he normally is, storming away with the Republican nomination.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Do you think we may see Donald Trump back in the White House? Unfortunately, yes. Because, I mean, every time he gets arrested, his popularity raises. I was saying last night... I think having him arrested and... Yeah, it's incredible. Having him arrested and the mugshots,
Starting point is 00:41:36 it's just giving him more fuel. It's funny you mention mugshots. I did a bit of research, you'll be pleased to hear, before you guys came on. And I was trying to think of, has there ever been a more iconic mugshot than Donald Trump's? And look what I found.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Oh, yes. Ozzy Osbourne in Memphis for, I think it was intoxication in a public place, Ozzie. Do you remember that? Yeah, yeah, I do. Did you pee on the police car? Peat on the police car. I was asleep in the central divide
Starting point is 00:42:15 and a freeway, pitch black. And there's all these cars were used to get past and I thought I need to take a pee. Not the best idea. So I fell thrown in the darkness. I fell thrown in the darkness and there was a car there. I started to pee.
Starting point is 00:42:31 And as soon as I did that this blue light on the top, flashed it says, your ass is going to jail, and when you did the mugshot, Ozzie, What does it like to do a mug shop? Well, you stand there, you're a fight for a sign. Can you even remember doing it? Yeah, oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:56 And Sharon, I want to talk to you... Oh, my lord. Sharon, I want to talk to you about Ashton Cutscher because you were asked who's the rudest celebrity you've ever met, and you suddenly said Ashton Cudcher, but you haven't explained why, so why? He came on a show I was on, the talk, and I had to introduce him,
Starting point is 00:43:16 So I introduced him, and you know, Mia, I'm terrible with names. And I didn't pronounce his name properly. So in the break, I apologize for not getting his name correct. And he turned around and he said to me, now, let's go back here because he'd known me for many years. I'd worked on his shows the whole family had when we were all MTV at the same time. And he looked at me and he goes, who are you? Even do you do?
Starting point is 00:43:48 Wow. What's your thing? And so I looked at him and I just said, you know, you little shit. And so after that, it just stayed with me. And, you know, as I said, he's a dastardly little man. But it was funny, though, because mom made that comment. And then the next day it came out that he'd written the letters to the judge. And I think everyone thought it was because mom knew that.
Starting point is 00:44:14 No, I didn't. Like weeks prior. Yeah. Very funny. It just coincided at the same time, yeah. We're getting to the end of... It's been great to catch up with you guys. Thank you so much for doing this.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Ozzy, people are going to ask, are you going to be able to tour again? What's your answer to that? I'd like to say yes, but I don't know at this point. How difficult has it been for you as one of the great rock stars this country has ever produced? Certainly one of the great stage artists. How hard has it been, not the...
Starting point is 00:44:48 to be able to perform. Well, it's kind of, it's the only thing I know what to do, really. You know, sometimes I can't live with it and I can't, but at the same time, I can't live without it, you know. I miss the gigs, I miss the camarader and laughs on the road, the audience especially. But, um, if it's, if it, if it, I don't know what to say. Well, I think, I think, let me do the talking.
Starting point is 00:45:20 I just want to say. I think on behalf of everybody who loves music and loves proper rock stars, I think we would all absolutely love to see you back on that stage one more time. I know how much you've missed it. It must be so difficult to have gone through what you've been through. But, Ozzy, I've got to say, there have been times in the last few years
Starting point is 00:45:39 when I wasn't sure if I would see you for an interview like this again, and I feel so happy to see you there with your family all together. Thank you. I've got to say, you look great, mate. And I know you've been through hell. Thank you very much. I'm delighted the spinal stuff. It seems that you've come through that
Starting point is 00:45:57 and the Parkinson's is under control. And you're looking good and it's great to see you. And it's great, Sharon, I think, for you to see your old man there looking alive and well and kicking well. You know it, Pearce. You know it. I just wish last night we all got some sleep. Yeah, last night, by the way,
Starting point is 00:46:17 our fire alarm went off five times during the night. And the rest. And the rest. Yeah. So we're all like zombies today. Why do I get the feeling things are never calm and quiet in the Osborne family? Never. Never.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Never. And now we've been joined by the only creatures. The only creatures madder than their owners are these dogs. But I remember the one that you had on America's got talent. Was it Minnie? The dog on AGT? Mini. What a fabulous.
Starting point is 00:46:46 But she was like Sharon, small but very dangerous. Small than my... Guys, we've run out of time. Thank you, all of you. Jack, Kelly, Sharon, Ozzy. Great to see you. Your bless you. And I hope to see you in the flesh soon.
Starting point is 00:46:59 You take care. Thank you very much. Whatever...

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