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Tonight on Piersburg and Unscensored, Gen Z workers take an average of one day off sick every week due to mental health, costing Britain 150 billion pounds a year. Are we all really losing our minds or maybe our backboats or debate? Plus Trump returns to uncensored, that's his daughter-in-law, and senior campaign advisor Lara Trump, who joins me live to discuss another barnstorming victory for the former president. And St. Panthers Station seals officer Elton John's legendary public piano, After a YouTube Pyrness was ordered to stop playing by tourists, claims on Chinese communists. Dr. K. joins me live.

Live from the news building in London, this is Pearz Morgan Unsensored. Good evening from London. Welcome to Pierce Morgan Unsensored. At no point in human history, have we been more self-aware about mental health? And if stress is a pandemic, there's a multi-billion-dollar market for the vaccines.

You might start your day by swallowing a Prozac before unpacking your trauma with a therapist, popping a diazepam for your workplace anxiety and winding down with meditation or wellness app and desperate over getting some sleep. If you've got it, there's a product for it. We've never been more medicated, more therapeutized, or more legitimized for confronting our feelings,

and many would say quite right too. But every study is now telling us that we've also never apparently been more depressed or riddled with anxiety. Something is broken here, and the answer can't be that it's all in our minds. A new study published today said that Gen Z employees in Britain miss an average of one workday every single week due to mental health,

costing the nation a rather stressful $138 billion pounds a year. And to be clear from the outset, mental illness is a deadly serious thing. Like every serious illness, it needs serious treatment. I would never question people who are clinically depressed or genuinely suicidal. But I do think it's time to draw a line between mental illness and mental health. who's been on the show many times. The stirred an emotive debate about this in recent days when he tweeted that depression is one of the basic side effects of being conscious.

He later said that labelling negative emotions and behaviours as diseases is exactly the problem and precisely what the psychiatric field has done. Maybe as a point, the global therapy industry is worth $150 billion and it's growing at a rate of knots. Young people in particular are relentlessly bombarded by content, which gives them every reason to feel uncomfortable. and anxious, and they're actively encouraged to then vaunt their suffering. Is that part of the problem?

And Britain used to celebrate the so-called stiff upper lip. I guess that boils down to being resilient in the face of adversity. If times are tough, but we were told to soldier on, keep pounding, find a way through. It's become more fashionable. Again, many people think this is the right way to go, to be perhaps more in touch with your trauma, to get help for it, to talk about it publicly. Criticism, though, has now become recategorized as shaming. Disagreement becomes very quickly described as hate,

or confrontation, is categorised as violence. Is that right? It should be no surprise that there's been a bit of a cultural fightback. Hugely influential characters like Andrew Tate, for good or bad, and encouraged their millions of followers to see depression as a man-made concept, which, ironically, is unbefitting of men. What do you believe about depression? Do you believe depression is a real thing?

I can't become clinically depressed. Why do you know? Because I don't believe in it. I can't be haunted by a ghost if I don't believe in ghosts. Well, I'm saying, I'm never going to die because I don't believe in it. It's ridiculous. Well, he's completely wrong, as I said there,

and there is a middle ground, though. And I'm glad he'd call out the excesses on both sides of the argument, just as when I questioned Tate's creative interpretation of the tears he shed in jail. Did you shed tears in your cell? There were tears that ran down my face, but I did not cry. I mean, that's crying.

I would disagree. Yeah, you were crying, Andrew Tate. Maybe you're a little bit depressed as he sat in your prison cell. Nothing wrong with that. Just confront your feelings. But somewhere in his bombast, Tate maybe has a point. Podcaster Zuby struck a call with me this week, having just returned to the UK from New York,

when he posted, if you absolutely believe you will get jet lag, and that's inevitable, you will get jet lag. I don't get jet lag. Well, as someone who just flew back from New York and has jet lag, maybe I should think harder about not having jet lag. You might be right. We do talk ourselves into a lot of this stuff. I mean, maybe have lost sight of the idea that everyday stresses and strains

are as much about our ability and will to manage them as they are about whatever is getting us down. Maybe we've forgotten how to keep calm and carry on. Maybe we should stop thinking that's a bad thing to be frowned upon. a lot of people making a lot of money by telling us we're not okay. Well, join me to discuss this is my pact, talked if you contributor to Esther Cracker,

Associated to Daily Mirror, Kevin McGuire, political journalist Ava Santina, and we're joined from across the pond by the podcast host I mentioned earlier. Zubi, let me start with you. Because I'd like your comment about jet lag. It hasn't worked for me, but I like the inspiration that you gave me

to try and make it work, and I'm working on my I don't have jet lag skills. On the wider point, it's a minefield this whole area of mental health. There's no doubt to me, I've got three sons in their 20s, and I know lots of their friendship groups. There are lots of young people suffering from genuine anxiety. I wouldn't categorize it as clinical depression. It may be in some cases, but just general levels of anxiety

that I don't think existed when I was that age. A lot of it may be phone-driven, you know, being subjected. to endless terrible imagery, which we never used to have to be exposed to when we were young? I don't sure what it is. But when you look at this whole situation, what do you think? Yeah, peers, I think it's one of those situations where multiple things are true at once,

and people often go to extremes when it's not necessary. It can absolutely be true that there are people who suffer genuine, serious traumas, which require things like therapy, and that there are people who have a real mental, illnesses or severe mental health issues where medication temporarily or even on a perhaps longer term may help. And that can be true.

It can also be true that many things are being overdiagnosed and that the human condition itself has been pathologized in various ways and that there are all sorts of influences out there which are not necessarily serving people's best interests because they do make money billions of dollars and pounds off of certain medications. You said the therapy business itself is worth, I think you said, and $150 billion per year. And so there are very misaligned incentives here. But I do think that one thing that happens with a lot of these conversations is people are very willing to talk about the symptoms.

But as a society, we don't often go deep on what some of the causes are. We'll talk about mental health. We'll talk about depression and anxiety. But there won't be a lot of talk about the family situation and the households that people are growing up in. their friend social networks, not online social networks, but their real social network. Are they part of a church? Are they part of strong communities? What are their beliefs? What's their physical health status? Physical and spiritual health are connected to mental health. So similar with many other issues, we talk about everything at the symptom level and try to find a pill or a

potion or a therapy that is going to work for everybody. But I think in many cases, we're not really getting to what the root of the issue is. You touched on one other thing, which is the rise of use of smartphones and social media, that's absolutely having an impact on people's mental well-being, being bombarded by all these images and opinions and just pure amount of information every day. This is something very new

that our ancestors didn't have to deal with. So I'm not surprised that there are more and more young people every year who are reporting that they're having anxiety, depression, or whatever else it may be. Yeah. Eva, it is a minefield just to even talk about this. You know, I could almost feel us all,

you're treading on eggshells with us, not to say the wrong thing, not to be insensitive, but also to recognise this survey has come out. It's pretty shocking that, you know, Gen Z kids are missing a day, a week at work and the on cost of all that. What do you think is going on here? Well, I agree with the premise there of your Gassoubi because you need to be talking about, like, what are the causes of this?

If you look at Gen Z at the moment, most of Gen Z are spending up to 60% of their pay packet on rent. They're poor, and they're not having a nice time at home. I think that really drives into anxiety and also as you talked about their phone dependency. But yeah, I mean, look, there is a conversation we need to be having about self-diagnosis that is going on, particularly on TikTok. I do understand we're not in the best of economic circumstances,

but, you know, like I said, there's less poverty now in this country than there's ever been. Exactly, and I grew up in the truth. You mean absolutely. But the thing is, I grew up in Ghana. The percentage of the population that we categorize as poor. But the thing is, I grew up in Ghana, and I've seen triple the amount of depressed people in this country than there.

So I don't think necessarily material deprivation is that. I know lots of well-off people who are extremely depressed. I'm very riddled with anxiety. I'm not sure that money or whether you're poor or rich, I don't know if that's really what are the core here. I actually think the dopamine impact of phones bringing so much stuff into their heads all day in a way where you never ever had to experience when we were young.

When I was young, you didn't have any phones, there's no internet. Now if there's a war somewhere, they're seeing kids' heads being blown off in real time all day long. It has to have a bad effect. also suffering in silence. After the first and second of World War, people came back. They were absolutely traumatised. And it wasn't recognised, and their lives

were blighted as a result. Now, I love Zubi's positive view of overcoming jet lag, but it exists. Mental illness exists, but you have a scale where there will be people clinically depressed, and he'll just have other people who feel down for whatever reason.

They're in a completely different category. And if we're medicating them, I think that's a big mistake. Is there a danger if you talk too much about these things. You encourage people, as with everything in life, if there's too much conversation, right? And it's pretty well being wall to wall 24-7

now for a few years. I see no evidence necessarily that it's working and reducing the number of people saying they're feeling bad. That's right. It's the reverse of not talking about it and denying it and then people hurt in real pain. The problem is you can talk

yourself into it. There's no question. We've medicalized real life. That's the problem. Someone who has lost a spouse, for instance, of course, will feel sad and depressed. But to say that they have depression and has to take a pill, that's a problem because you're not treating it

the way that it should be treated. Real life happens, sad things happen, and we have to have a way to deal with it. Young people also lack purpose, right? If they're seeing all these people getting rich and having Bugatti's online, they're thinking, how am I supposed to have that? What is my purpose in life?

The fear of missing out? Exactly. The envy factor. I mean, bringing Zubi back in here. You know, I think all these things come into play, the difference, like I said, between when I was young and young people now, is their ability to have all this staring at them all day long?

You know, when I was young, the most exciting thing you had in front of you was a conker fight, you know, and you'd be studying conkers outside in fresh air. We didn't have any phones. There was no internet. There was nothing like that. You weren't really aware of all the bad stuff going on unless you watch the one TV news bulletin.

Now kids are not only aware of it, they're seeing it in real time. Yeah, there are a lot of different factors. I mean, social media and smartphones absolutely play some role in here. I'd say another thing that has massively changed over the decades as well is just the situations that people are growing up in, their environment. How many different communities that they're plugged into and how strong are those communities? We know that there's an epidemic of loneliness that we talk about.

We talk about the epidemic of suicide, particularly male suicide. We're talking about all of this mental health things. And it's like all of the things that help to keep individuals and societies sane and stable from family to faith, to community, to the sense of meaning and purpose that someone else brought up earlier, all of these things have also been eroded over the past, let's say, 50 or 60 years. So when it comes to these situations, I mean, why are people so desperately seeking therapists? I think in many cases, sure, there might be people who really genuinely need a professional therapist,

but I think there are also people who just need someone to talk to, And they don't really feel like they have friends or they have parents or family members that they can confide in and talk about these day-to-day issues and then it builds up and it gets to a stage where they feel like the only thing that they can do is go to a therapist or take medication or perhaps even do something that's far more drastic.

I mean, in the United States, for example, I read recently that 80% of the world's painkillers are sold in the United States. 80%. I mean, we think we're over-medicated here. My God. I mean, in the U.S., it's really out of control. Yeah, it's crazy.

I mean, the USA has, I believe, 4% of the world's population. And then, as you said, they're taking 80% plus of the pain medication and things like opioids. And these things are causing massive crises in the USA. Every year, over 100,000 people in the USA, American citizens, are dying of drug overdoses. That's 100,000 deaths. So imagine how many other people are abusing those substances. and these are genuinely scary numbers, 100,000 people dying per year

of something that is completely avoidable. I think that should be much bigger news, but as I said, I don't know every single solution, but I think for the diagnosis, we have to go down the tree a little bit and not just hack at the branches and the twigs, but we need to get to the root of the problem, and it's not going to be one single thing,

it's going to be multiple things, and I think several of them have been mentioned. Yep, I completely agree. Let's take a short break, I'm going to keep our stellar pack. I'm going to come back and we have day two of Barbie Gate, the shocking snub, apparently, to Margot Robbie in the best actress category at the Oscars

and Greta Gilbert and Best Director. But good old Ken, he had the last laugh, didn't he? Well, Ryan Gosling, of course, he plays Ken in the movie. He's absolutely guilt and horrified, shocked, issued a statement about how outraged he is. His two female colleagues didn't get nominated. Hasn't yet offered to, hand back his nomination

and has given no indication he won't be leaping along to the Oscars to receive his award if he should get one. So we'll debate that after the break. Lederman said you were the funniest of them all. He also said you were very insecure. Ledham was on the cover of Success Magazine. You know Dave, I'm on a magazine called Super Success Magazine.

My number one bucket list has been to get inside John. Well, it's not like I didn't invite you. What about Taylor Swift? What do you make of the fact that she's now this billionaire? I think it's wonderful. Breaking all records, beating Elvis, Michael Jackson, all of them.

Yeah, I think it's wonderful. I think it's great. Joe Biden. He's fine to be president. I'm a fan. I like the man. I've known him for years. No, I like him.

I think he's a good guy. You know, the economy's doing pretty good. I don't want a president who's been impeached. If he's able to bamboozle you, if you choose to have someone who's a criminal as president, I have to accept your choice to wake up. Is that Elon Musk is a genius? Yes, genius. Very bright guy.

I got a face full of gas. And we're literally on fire? When rich people catch on fire, but public loves it. Well, that was a trader for a brilliant interview with Jay Leno, the king of late night in America for so many years. Great battle with the great David Lederman.

But he also adds the most incredible car collection of any human being I've ever seen in my life. 260, I think, plus supercars, one of which alone's worth 20 million. And he takes on a guided tour of his amazing cars and gives me a quite remarkably open and honest interview. It's like Mr. America, Jay Leno.

So, well worth watching. That'll be tomorrow night, a special on Pierce Morgan unscensored, J. Delano. Anyway, my pack is still with me. We start with you, Ava, about Barbie. We discussed this briefly yesterday, but it's been ratcheted up

by Ryan Gosling's rage-filled statement about himself being nominated for an award at the Oscars, but not the two women who were basically behind the movie's success, Margot Robbie and Critigarby. Here's my question. why the hell should they have been nominated?

I thought the movie was awful. I thought it was man-hating, patronising, anti-patriarchy nonsense from start to finish. I didn't think Marga Robbie, who I love and think he's a brilliant actress was very good in this. I thought he was probably the best

of a bad bunch of acting performances. And credit going, all right, she's a good director, but really, one of the best director movies of me a favour? There's a woman who has been nominated in the best director of character. who made a fantastic film, right? That's on merit.

Why should you make a silly movie attacking men using real-life dolls? Why should you get any nomination? Look, I have to say, I was kind of, I was slightly confused why people were so upset and calling it misogynistic because the other people who were nominated were women, so I wasn't quite understanding that. I also didn't understand the comparisons with Hillary Clinton. So a lot of people were saying that because, you know, this is why we haven't had...

She's compared herself to it. She has. This is why we haven't had eight years of Hillary Clinton because people don't choose women. And I don't agree with that at all. However, what I would say is... More women got nominated this year, apparently, than ever before. What I would say is, perhaps there is a little bit of a spirit in the air,

which is, you know, a little taste of... Do people just not really like what girls like? Oh, it's nonsense. You know, a lot of women really enjoyed that movie. A lot of men enjoyed that movie as well. It got eight other nominations. And, you know, I guess the ultimate prize is the billion dollars that it made at the box office.

But look, it was the most popular... That is no metric movie. Do you know what's also made a billion dollars in box office? All three Jurassic Worlds. And Fast and Fireland. the Star World or the Transformers nonsense. Let me bring in Zubi.

Zubi, where do you sit on Barbie Gate and this furorreous erupted because Margot, Robbie and Greta Gourwick have been snubbed? I know that they should have ever been even considered. I'm going to be as honest as I always am and I really don't care. Does it? Okay.

Let me try and make you care. Do you think that the reaction to this snub is ludicrous? or not? Yeah, I think it's silly. I think we certainly have much bigger fish to fry as a society. From the precursory glance,

I've taken at articles, it does look like the movie did get eight Oscar nominations. It just seems that people are mad that the director and Margot Robbie specifically didn't get nominations, but it looks like other people from the film did, including another one of the female actresses.

So, yeah, I think that the criticisms are silly but also expected. Kevin, where do you sit on this? Well, we were told there's no Ken without Bobby, but it clearly will be at the Oscars. But that's why I love it. That's why I love that Ken's getting him the last laugh. They make him out to be a total nomskill in the movie.

He's the downtrodden, oppressed guy who ends up getting dumped. She doesn't need a man. She can do it all herself. And you know what? Turns out Ken has the last laugh. It's the middle of the film when he takes over. Of course, she has two thirds of the film. He's got the middle third. But I can see from his point of view,

it's a little bit embarrassing because the film's not cool. No, it's not. Well, it would be nominated for something that you three were involved in. I wouldn't give you a moment's thought. I'd just take the credit and practice my speech. I mean, I think I've been very vocal

about how much I despise Barbie as a lifelong Barbie fan. I don't think a single one of them should have been nominated for anything. Maybe the Razzie's something. I thought it was a dreadful firm. But you know the thing is, they spent more money. Mentioned patriarchy 11.

more money on the marketing than the production. We should tell you everything you need to know. Because what is the patriarchy? But it wasn't for you. But the film wasn't for you. Yes, it was for me and I hated it. We celebrate matriarchy, right? I celebrate the matriarches in my family.

Very strong women down every single generation. We celebrate the matriarchy. Why can't we celebrate strong men anymore? Well, I have got the ick from Ryan Gosling, I have to say. I really don't understand why you put out that statement. Do you know what it actually felt like? It's embarrassing. No, no, no, no, no, it was mansplaining.

It was actually mansplaining. No, no, because there were two types of feminists. There are three types of feminists. The ones that I like, who I identify with, which you just want equality of rule, and that's great. Then there are the vengeful feminists who want to kill all men.

And then there are the worst type of all, which are the weak male virtue signalling feminists who pop up in all these things. And of a great gosling has fallen to his trap and try and position themselves this friend of the feminist. Oh, shut up all of you. He's being polite.

He's made of film with these two women who are pretty successful in there. I've even got Zubi laughing, and they've got nothing, and he has got the nomination, the bloke has walked away. He was the only tolerable part of that film. And sorry, this whole male feminist rant, most male feminists are just trying to get laid, to be honest. Let me go back to Zubi.

He's been smirking away with this. I think getting more or more into the scandal, as he hears more about it. A filmmaker called Kenya Barris is directing new remakes of It's a Wonderful Life and Wizard of ours, too, of my favorite films, to, of course, give diverse reboots

for people who hadn't felt seen. I've got to say, when I read these stories, my heart sinks. It's like when Disney tried to remake Snow White and The Seven Doors and not give any dwarf actors, any roles. Because why can't we just celebrate great movies as they were intended to be at the time? Like we do great music, great sport, we can accept life moves on, you can make new movies.

Why do we have to ruin everything? Zubi, convince me I'm wrong. It's a very strange thing. Yeah, it's a very strange thing, people. because this has been going on for years, and it backfires every single time. The movies tend to bomb, they lose money, they get low rankings from audiences,

but they keep on doing it over and over, whether this is the all-female reboot of Ghostbusters, or this is race-swapping various characters and different things. People don't really like it, especially when you mess with their childhood history in such a way. If you want to create new characters

and create new concepts and ideas, then go out and create new characters and concepts and ideas. Don't take things that. that have been loved and known for 50 or 100 years and go and gender swap them or race swap them. All that does is it really creates more contempt and resentment and division in society.

I think that if you really want to have true diversity, you just let people do what they do and you naturally end up with varying degrees of diversity. It's not something you force, and actually the more you force it, the more resentful you make people. And you know, Ava, the original Wizard of Oz, which is a brilliant movie, featured more than 120 dwarves who played the Munchkins.

Most of them are from a performing group in Germany, landed the roles after escaping the country just months before the Nazis invaded Poland. This is likely to have saved their lives as Nazi policy was for a pogrom of undesirables, and they believed that included dwarfs, right? It should be noted also there were no white men in lead roles in Wizard of Oz, Dorothy, a tin man, a scarecrow, and a talking lion.

How much more diverse do you want it to be? Look, I just think it's quite a fantastic PR move, isn't it? If you're bringing out a new film to say that you are making it woke, because then it gets on programs like yours, and then millions more people access it. You're doing it just to wind me up. Well, they're doing it. But, like, you've got two classic films.

You probably cannot better. So if you're going to make two films in their mold, you want people to compare and contrast and look for the differences. That's why you'll do it with diversity. It's just, give me some common sense. It's just laziness, really. They're only capitalising on the name. So if you have the name of Barbie or The Wizard of Oz,

you don't have to put in any effort. And we talk about it, which gives them all the free publicity. So if we ignored it, they probably would do better. I know, if we ignored it, we wouldn't have a chance to slam them. You want to see them, though, don't you? You want to see him, even if you go along, say that's awful. Absolutely not. I want to see the first, you know, supposedly diverse posters for the new thing.

Watch the public go, what are you doing? Then watch them perform a U-turn. He hasn't thought. He hasn't. He hasn't. Well, I had to give him my daughter. She watched it. I had to give her a repress.

programming session. You're a secret Barbie boy. Well, no, I have to be programmed Barbie boy. Zubi, great to talk to you. Thank you so much for joining us. Come back soon. Pat, thank you very much indeed over here. Uncensor next, Donald Trump is back. Triumphant in Iowa

and now New Hampshire is the former president riding a wave that will take him sensationally all the way back to the White House. Well, Benny Johnson and Lara Trump, Donald's daughter, the North, are up next. Welcome back to Unsensor. Donald Trump last night became the first Republican presidential candidate

to win open races in both Iowa and New Hampshire, a fee only accomplished before by a setting president. You've got 55% of the vote in New Hampshire making a presidential rematch between Trump and Biden looking now all but certain. Nikki Haley, Trump's only remaining rival for the GOP nomination pledged to fight on, though, telling her supporters

there are dozens of states left to go. And there are, but there will be increasing pressure if Trump keeps winning for her to pull out too. President Biden, meanwhile, on the New Hampshire Democrat Prize. is a writing candidate. Little-known challenger, Dean Phillips, managed a very credible 20% a measure, perhaps,

of the president's deep unpopularities. Approval ratings are currently at 33%. And no incumbent president has ever been re-elected with approval numbers that low. I'm joined now by Laura Trump, as you know, advisor to Donald Trump's presidential campaign, and his daughter-in-law, it must be said,

and by the political commentator, Benny Johnson. Well, welcome to both of you. Lara, great to have you on Uncensored. Thank you. You're a great singer. to know this from my knowledge of your family. And you once recorded a cover of Tom Petty's song, I Won't Back Down.

And I can't think of a more appropriate song to describe your father-in-law who looked dead and buried politically 18 months ago and is now right back where he wants to be, in fact, winning in a way he didn't do when he first got elected president in 2016 with IORN, New Hampshire. How has he done this?

He's amazing. I mean, Pierce, you know, this is a guy who really won't back down. And I think any other human being on this planet, quite frankly, with all that he has had against him, would have said enough. I mean, I think we can all pretty clearly see the goal of so much of what they've done to Donald Trump and whether they being the Department of Justice, obviously, that has been weaponized against him in so many respects. The mainstream media here in this country, his opponents in the swamp in Washington, D.C., man, they've leveled. everything at him, and he's not backing down. He's not giving up. Any normal person would, but I really do believe he understands what's at stake right now in this country and really for the rest of the world. It is our job to be the leader of the free world, I think, in the United States, and we've always taken that very seriously. Right now we are in a weakened state. We have a weak president. We have an economy that's not doing well. People across this country are suffering. They want Donald Trump back. I think he knows he's the only shot. And you know what? He's Senate to win it. And yeah, we've had a couple of great primaries and caucuses 2 and O now. We're going to go on and head to November 5th.

You know, my phone went on Monday night. I was just about to come in to do the show, and it was Donald. And we hadn't spoken since our rather contentious interview. We did actually launching this show a while ago. But a very nice chat. And I've got to say, he was exuding, chilling confidence about what is happening. He really just believes he's going to win. Yeah, and I think he believes because the American people believe. I mean, you look at the way he's made history and the first two tests, really, of him as a candidate for president again. And it's not even fair to call him that. I mean, so many people kind of consider him an incumbent in so many ways.

But he proved himself, peers, in 2016, when the people of this country said, we want to give an outsider, a businessman a shot. How will he do? It was amazing. He did things in four years in this country that most presidents wanted to dream of doing. in two full terms and office. And so I think he is feeling confident. You saw he had a blowout win in Iowa. And then to go to New Hampshire,

a state that if Nikki Haley had any shot at winning any state across this country in a primary race against Donald Trump, she would want to be in New Hampshire because that's where they have, of course, an open primary. People who are not affiliated with the Republican Party didn't come vote.

And you look at the win he had last night. It was really amazing to see him. He's feeling good. I remember him saying to me once, that he said, you've got to win. He says, Muhammad Ali said, you know, if you're going to talk but talk, you've got to walk the walk or the act doesn't play.

Benny, let me bring you in. You'd be waiting patiently here. One of the great advantages that Donald Trump has is that in 2020, Joe Biden was able to run as the anti-Trump after a very difficult year for the country with the pandemic, which wrecked all Trump's economic plans as it did everywhere around the world.

This time, Biden has to run on his own race, And his approval rating says it all on almost every key policy initiative from immigration to the economy to crime. You name it. He's in the tank with the American people. That has got to help Donald Trump, hasn't it, in a general election? Yeah, like, not good, not a great strategy, actually, what Democrats have done. First off, could you imagine being a Joe Biden voter right now? Like, can you name a single accomplishment that you'd be particularly proud of?

There's nothing less cool than being a Joe Biden voter, especially as a young person. And that is why you're seeing young people abandoned Joe Biden. I'm looking at NBC News polling right now in front of me. The number one problem with Joe Biden's coalition, young people are abandoning Joe Biden. Donald Trump is winning with voters ages 18 to 34, 46% to 42%. When was the last time you saw that for a Democrat? But it gets even worse. Donald Trump is leading with Hispanics.

and Joe Biden has collapsed in his support with black Americans down to 63 percent, a collapse of 25 points since taking office. Also, they have turned Donald Trump into a gangster. That also a big mistake. You've made an icon out of your political rival. You've given him a mugshot, as you can see here behind me in the studio. This is totally hardcore ratchet stuff that kids actually love. that's become a meme online,

and you've turned the man who was already an American icon into a bigger icon. Everybody likes voting for the political prisoner, and you done effed up, Democrat Party. And you know what? Donald Trump is the only person I know where if he was actually convicted of any one of the things he's been charged with

and actually put into a prison cell, he's the only person I know that could probably still win the presidential election because the more they try and throw this stuff at him, the more popular he gets. Here's, Chris Rock had a comedy set that he did in Washington, D.C., with Nancy Pelosi in the audience. And Chris Rock said, you're going to turn Donald Trump into Tupac. He's going to sell more records.

You're stupid. And, well, Nancy Pelosi got up and pulled him up and slapped him in the face. It's actually very interesting, you mention Chris Rob, because I was at the New York Knicks in Manhattan the day after the 2016 election. and I found myself at the table sitting next to Chris Rock. And we got talking. I said, why do you think Hillary Clinton lost? You went, let me tell you why he said. Because if someone's murdered eight people,

don't go around telling everyone he's murdered nine. And the point he was making was, if you wildly exaggerate everything with Trump, and let's be honest, I mean, even Lara would admit, he's probably not the most angelic human being ever put onto God's earth. I would never admit such a thing here, please. But I don't think even even,

You would admit that. You see that as a badge of dishonour. But the reality is that this constant attempt to take him down, culminating in the hypocrisy, in my view, of the liberal side led by senior Democrats up and down the country, saying, we've got to get rid of Trump, but stop him running again to save democracy. And then they try and remove him from presidential state ballots, which, of course, is the most blatant example of trying to thwart democracy and allowing Americans to have a free vote. imaginable. So there's a kind of nonsensical hypocrisy, but also, as you mentioned, Benny, a stupidity, which is... It makes him hardcore. If you try and kill him off this way, and all it does is make him more popular, stop doing it. You know, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result. And people identify with him, Pierce. People who feel like the system here has screwed them for their entire life, they look at that mugshot of Donald Trump.

By the way, the Democrats thought that was it. That was going to be the nail in the coffin for him that mugshot. That mugshot represents to so many people all across this country. Hey, the same system that hasn't been working for me is working against him. And I understand it and I see myself in that. They done messed up with that one. How much is he made from that mugshot? I heard he was merchandising it and making an absolute fortune. It's all for the campaign. We should actually keep a tab. I had Christmas wrapping paper with the mugshot on it. You've turned him into a rebel, right? You've made him the sex pistols. You've turned him into the Ramon's. He's now a rebel and kids like voting for the rebel.

But again, Benny, I would again bring this back to Joe Biden. The great advantage Trump has is the condition of the sitting president. This is a clip of Biden yesterday trying to pronounce the name of the country he represents. We'll teach Donald Trump a valuable lesson. Don't mess with the minimum of America unless you want to get the benefit. I think he was trying to say United States. of America, but he just, he couldn't get it out. And we see endless clips of him falling over on stage,

falling off bicycles, tripping down the steps of Air Force One and so on. He's up against Trump, a very old 81-year-old. Not because he's 81, because Mick Jagger's a few months younger and is as a fiddle list. He looks like he's 181. And if you're Trump, you must be licking your lips that this guy's going to be your opponent.

It would be bad enough if he, if it was, if it was just that, by the way, but it's also that couple with the fact that everything's a disaster around Joe Biden, right? I'm sorry to cut you off, Benny. But that's the truth is you can lie to people and you can try and do the jazz hands that the Democrats do with the media all the time only so long. But whenever it hits people's bottom line, when they know that their life is harder right now, in addition to seeing stuff like that, I mean, you're exactly right. Joe Biden is basically serving up the entire thing to us right now. I hope that there's no funny business with 3 a.m. dumps this time around. That's all I'll say.

And, Benny, I mean, in the end, Trump, he's got, some state, he's got to choose a vice president pick. Who, if you were him, who's the smart play for Trump? The smart play is absolutely somebody who's young enough and energetic enough to carry forward the MAGA movement. Donald Trump will get constitutionally one term in office. you have to pick someone who's not going to backstab you like a Mike Pence and somebody who's not going to betray you like a Nikki Haley. And so you should choose somebody like either Tucker

Carlson or Vivek Ronswamy who are true believers but are younger and who have this long stretch of a political career ahead of him so that you have a torch to pass when you are done with term two. Okay. Lara, what your thoughts on VP pick? You probably know. Well, I wouldn't, and I would never break any news here tonight. Of course, that's not my thing to tell me. If I did know, listen, I agree with Benny. I think that you've seen a lot of

the youth coming into this party in a way that really, I think, was very unexpected for people. Look at the vague. I mean, the energy this guy brings. I was on stage with him last night with my father-in-law. He's incredible. But whoever it is, I can guarantee you this. They will be an America First Patriot.

They will be somebody who, as Benny said, will carry the mantle of this movement, My father-in-law changed the entire face of politics in this country. He changed the Republican Party. It will have to be someone who is in line with him on that front. And it's exciting stuff. We're breaking history. We're making history over here.

All right, Laura, you mentioned change there. So I want to just ask you maybe a more difficult question. I've seen glimpses of your father-in-law when he made his victory speech in Iowa, not so much after New Hampshire. But in our of the kind of charm, civility, decency that I saw a lot of when I did The Celebrity Apprentice over the boardroom table for week in, week out, which he's been reluctant to show, actually,

when he's been a politician. Is he capable, at his age now, of actually pivoting to a slightly more, dare I say, if he was to be re-elected, a less bombastic, slightly more inclusive president? Well, it is Donald Trump. So to make a prediction like that would be, you know, he'll do what he thinks is best. And the interesting thing with him is, yeah, you probably saw two very different Donald Trump's in the Iowa victory speech and in last night's New Hampshire victory speech. But he chooses his tone based on the moment. And I think his tone was very appropriate in Iowa. And quite frankly, last night, I feel like it was very appropriate as well. Right now, we have an election to win. We do not need to be fighting. within the Republican Party for the obvious Republican nominee to actually take that title.

We should galvanize our support together. We should go forward. We should make sure that we leave nothing to chance on November 5th because we have to take back the White House. Pierce, we have no other option in this country. And quite frankly, I don't think the rest of the world has another option, but to have Donald Trump back in the White House. I think the rest of the world is in a mixture of shock and awe

and horror and delight and curiosity at the... impending return of Donald Trump, the Teflon Don. We shall see it's going to be a fascinating year. Lara, great to see you. Thank you so much. Send the family all my best. Benny, final word to you? May I ask you a question?

May I ask you a question? Yeah. This is a question that the internet has been asking for a very long time, and we don't have an answer, and it must come from you, sir. Were you in a movie with Donald Trump called Home Alone 2? That is not me. Were you the pigeon lady? I'm grateful for the chance to put the record straight.

That's actually a female actress. It's not me. There's nothing like it was. There's no shame in it, Pierce. I'm not the pigeon lady in Home Alone, too. Although, I do go in Central Park a lot, and I can see the resemblance, but it's not me. But thank you, Benny.

I appreciate it. It got your viral moment, you bleep. Good to have you on the program, too, finally. Lara, thank you very much. And we'll see what happens. It's going to be a fascinating, fascinating year for American politics. Great to see you, though. Thank you.

Unsens, so next, Brendan Kavanaugh is a well-known pianist with over 2 million subscribers on YouTube, but that's not why he's gone viral this week. Chinese communists might be responsible. Brendan, we'll explain next. Welcome back to Unsensor. Pianist Brendan Kavanaugh, aka Dr. K, was entertaining crowds at some pancreas station in London

on the public piano there when he's approached by a group of flag-waving Chinese. onlookers who demanded he stopped filming. A shocking twist, the police didn't seem to back the tourists. And today the piano has been mysteriously cordoned off. All very mysterious. It was quite bizarre. Dr. Kay, you joined me now. I watched the whole video to get a proper context for this.

You're just minding your own business. You're playing beautiful piano as you do. You're a very talented guy. Thank you, Piers. People are enjoying it, and your schick is they come over and interact with you, and it's great. Very harmless and fun. And this is the UN action, I mean, fantastic.

But then there's Chinese people in the background with their flags. Yes. Come over and sort of believe they have the right to stop you filming and doing what you're doing. Let's have a listen to what happened. Okay. This is all right. We're protecting and that's it. But what right? I don't understand. Image right. We are protecting our own image, right? You're not sharing.

But this we're in public? Yeah, exactly. No. We're in a free country, mate. That's true. We're only a free country. We're only communist China now, you know. Oh, I'm sorry. This is recent. No, we're not in communist China. We're in a French country.

It doesn't matter. Show me the Chinese flag? Why you're touching her. Stop touching her! Don't touch her. Please, do not touch her. Please, you are not the same age. Please do not touch her.

Don't touch her. It was totally bizarre. He got very angry of that guy. But I also thought the police woman came over to you. I didn't like what she was doing either, which was almost acquiescing to this. Well, absolutely.

She completely took the side of the Chinese. Because they mentioned, the R word racist, she melted like a jelly. And nothing you said was racist at all. Well, I think she said her beef with me was that I said we're not in China now. And she found that an extremely offensive phrase

because she said that would hurt the feelings of the Chinese around the piano. And you can hear her whispering, you can't say that. And I said what? And she said, you can't say we're not in China now. I said, that's a factual statement. And I think when the police deal with this,

these politically correct issues, they're all over the place because they think they're going to offend someone. And so she took it out on me. She thought she was, I suppose, virtue signaling to her masters. And she didn't have a message. The irony is they were filming themselves, some kind of commercial. Sure, and they were also filming me. It's been pointed out if you actually watched a video.

There's a guy in a gimbal from the CCP group that was there, who was constantly filming me. one of the girls was filming me but they said I wasn't allowed to film them and that I needed to delete my footage because they had a disclaimer that no one was allowed to film them in the station

quite bizarre. It's really hit a nerve over 6 million people about watch this online you probably never had a reaction quite like this haven't you? Well no and also I've got to tell you just before I came in peers I've just had a phone call the video is on the verge of being taken down by YouTube because I've had a second strike against it

so someone does not this video to be taken, doesn't want this video to be there. It's about to be taken down. So if anyone's watching this, please download it. And if the video disappears, obviously pressure has been put on YouTube. What does it tell you about where we are with free speech in the world, right? Well, this whole thing was a mini parable about the value of free speech.

It was a spontaneous live stream. We were attempted to be shut down. But in the end, free speech prevailed. And I think that's why it's got such a very speech. a lot of traction around the world. Because where do you see free speech prevailing in a little mini-drama? And that's what happened.

They walked away, free speech prevail, but now they want to take the video down. The video is on the verge of being taken down. Please, if you're watching this, download the video. And if the video gets taken down, let's kick up a stink. How did the police end up with you

over the whole thing? There was about five of them, and one of the group went and got the police and said that, we've got here a violent thug, who is threatening us and is calling us communists, and we feel threatened. And he also needs to delete his footage.

And the police lady immediately took their side. And she gave me quite a hard time. She told me I couldn't say things. She said to stop filming. No, I watched it. I couldn't understand what she was doing. Well, I knew what she was doing. I couldn't understand why.

I couldn't understand it either, peers, you know. What reaction have you been back since to play the piano? No, my friend Terry, I've got a good friend. My friend, Terry Miles, God bless him. He was there today. He's a fantastic YouTuber. He was there today. And there was even a protest today supporting the piano and me in St. Pancras, free the piano.

Terry was there today. The piano's back. And I think the piano's back. When are you back there? I don't know if I should say Piz. Yes, you should. Do you think I should go back? Absolutely.

Give me your, would you come with me? Back tomorrow morning. You reckon? Yes. You reckon. Of course. You'll be a superstar now. You're a bigger crowds than Elton John who I think donated the piano.

He did. He did. And Elton's team has been contacted by the Daily Express to give a comment on the fact that the piano was shut off. But when they heard that, they actually released the piano, so it's back in use again. When are you going back? Come on. Give me a scoop. Peers, peers, peers. I don't know if I can. It's free speech. Spit it out, man. I might go on Friday, this Friday. What kind of time if people are in town? Peers, peers, peers.

I want to cause a commotion. Piers, Piz. You're stirring this up, man. You're stirring this up. If anyone from the Communist Party in China is watching this, look, I can't tell you when he's performing, but it's Friday. My 5 have told me to keep a low program. I'm only joking.

But look, I may be there on Friday, but, you know, it's a sensitive situation. The police, British transport police have freaked out, St. Pankras have freaked out, but people have... You know what? They should all just calm down and recognise we live, last time I checked, in a free democratic country, and you are allowed to play the piano where you've played it many times.

We've got to leave it there. Great to see you, Brendan. All the best. Thank you. Get down to some pan because we're all behind you. That's it from me, whatever you're up to. Keep it uncensored, especially from the communists in China. God bless you, please.