Piers Morgan Uncensored - Piers Morgan Uncensored: Vigilante Violence, Prince Harry and The Press, Politicians Music Choice

Episode Date: August 31, 2023

On tonight' episode of Piers Morgan Uncensored, Rosanna Lockwood sits in for Piers before he returns on Monday and discusses if there is any excuse for vigilantes. Rosanna looks into how Prince Harry attacks the press again. Also Rosanna debates to whether politicians should be allowed to use music of people who don't support them. Watch Piers Morgan Uncensored at 8 pm on TalkTV on Sky 522, Virgin Media 606, Freeview 237 and Freesat 217. Listen on DAB+ and the app.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I am Rosanna Lockwood here on Uncensored Tonight. Political praise for the vigilantes attacking London's car charge cameras. Meanwhile, the Florida Governor Ronda Santis warns criminals who take advantage of the storm, quote, you loot, we shoot. So is there ever an excuse for the public taking the law into their own hands? The Prince against the press, again, Harry faces a backlash for his broadside against the media's coverage of the Afghan war. Have they missed the public mood or has he?

Plus Eminem orders a presidential candidate to stop rapping his songs. Should politicians be allowed to use music by musicians who hate them? Unsensored with Rosanna Lockwood. Good evening. Welcome to Pierce Morgan Uncensored. We'll be Rosanna Lockwood in the chair for the final time before the return of the Big Dog on Monday. That's on the AutoCube, Big Dog. Would I say Big Dog? Yeah, I think I would. He is back. Pierce Morgan in this chair from Monday. So look, the question we want to ask tonight is vandalism ever okay if it's for a cause we think is worthy?

Spraying paint, smashing windows, these are the types of disruptive acts we've got used to seeing for the likes of extinction rebellion and just stop oil. They say it's necessary all of this to make the rest of us pay attention to the looming climate catastrophe. Their critics, though, say they're a bunch of loony lefties and the damage they've caused is criminal, outrageous and unacceptable. and it reignites debates about how much protest action we actually allow in our free and fair democracy and where we draw the legislative line. So what about the blade runners? The name given to the group of people currently vandalising ULES cameras in London boroughs. Then doing this in protest against the low-emission zone put in place by Mayor Sadie Khan. They're being called vigilantes and rebels by lots of media seemingly more sympathetic to those political aims. And they're not seeing the same outcry to face

justice. In fact, Conservative MP, Sir Ian Duncan Smith actually said he backs them, saying, quote, I am happy for them to do it because they are facing an imposition that no one wants and they have been lied to about it. The actions you are seeing show how angry people are at what is being imposed on them. Sadie Khan has gerrymandered all the information people have had enough. Now, all of this begs the question, do disruptive and destructive rebels get a pass if they have a cause that you agree with, and is that a bit hypocritical?

Joining me for more on this to discuss a few topics as well. Thursday's PowerPack, political journalist Ava Santina, Talk TV international editor, Isabel Oakshop, and Talk TV presenter, Richard Tice. All three of you. Good to have you in. I mean, Ava, how have you found the characterisation of the Blade Runners? Do you think they're getting an easy ride? Well, it's just quite interesting, really, isn't it?

because this is Boris Johnson's policy, U-Less, right? This was conceived by him when he was mayor of London. And then in 2020, this was pushed by Tory government ministers. They told Sadiq Khan, you have to expand U-Less. You have to do it. So he's done it. And now, for some reason, the Tories probably owing to their inevitable electoral failure have decided to make a culture war out of it.

And they've ramped people up. And the language that has been used around Sadiq Khan and around U-Lez is so disgusting. I can only understand why people are so angry in that now ripping down camera. But I just think it's absolutely extraordinary that you would even conceive of comparing them to Justop Oil because it's so obvious Yes, just up oil are fighting for climate change right they're peacefully protesting They're doing things within the bounds of the law and then you've got these people Ripping down cameras over a silly policy is 12 pound 50 a day or change a car

Are they not you know they've both got causes they're just a different ends of the spectrum Richard I'll get you head in the hands Facebook I want to come to you first You can't say Justop Oil are just peacefully protesting, I mean, incredibly disruptive and vandalised all over the shop. So I don't think it's fair to say that they're actually angels and the whoever's vandalising these cameras is somehow a different example. Well, they've both got causes. I mean, you know, £12.50 a day may not be much to you, but you may not be moving a vehicle in and out of central London on which your business depends. And it may only be £12.50 to an individual, but people who have businesses that

involve fleets of vehicles are finding they're going to have to pay. awful lot more. Richard, should they be locked up the Blade Runners? Look, I don't think you should welcome vandalism. I'm astonished that Ian Duncan Smith, but I think has said what he said, but it highlights just how significantly Sadiq Khan has completely misinterpreted the mood. And I've got latest data today, one in four of all the new cameras is believed to have been vandalised. So this is a level of, it's sort of low-level anarchy, and it's because Sadiq Khan's completely mischurchase. judge the mirror. But more importantly than that, he's actually fiddled and fudged the data. So, I mean,

the truth is, Imperial College have confirmed that it makes no difference whatsoever to the air pollution in terms of the particular data. And in terms of the nitrogen dioxide, less than 3%. It's exactly true. Because Shirley Rodriguez tried to change the wording of the Imperial College report, and they refused to do it. But we're not listening to the experts anymore. But you know, look, there's been a dramatic reduction in, you see, I'm sorry, you talk about disgusting. That is a lie, Ava, and you cannot do it. And for you to say, it's only 12 quid 50, nurses on night duty, it's 12 quid 50 on the way in, it's 12 quid 50 on the way in, 25 quid nurses trying to save lives in the NHS.

The point about whether or not these people, the vandal, should be treated in the same as extinction rebellion protesters. Do you broadly agree with that? Actually, there's a massive difference. What extinction rebellion have been doing is they've been damaging private property, including thousands of pounds worth of damage to the building that we're in, for example. And they don't have to pay. That's very different. Producers have bought up this tweet

that you wrote about Extinction Rebellion, a SOP rather. Let's take a listen. Every single one should be jailed for 51 weeks, given a large fine, and this will stop within a fortnight. But it won't stop them. There's so many of them, Richard. They really are. Just jail them.

Just jail them. Let's build another detention centre. Stick them in jail. The country. will celebrate. There's a fundamental difference, which is they were blocking the highway, which is prevented by law. And so the 51 weeks is the, it's the punishment sanctioned by law in the 1980s code. But they're fiddling with the cameras and that could affect the signals, like that could affect a red light signal. What if there's an accident that is caused by one of these vigilantes that's putting the camera on? There's none of that. There's been. You just made that up. There is more news to discuss today, including, of course, we've got new defence secretary, Isabel. Ben Wallace, after four years

in the job pretty well regarded, knew he was going to step down, did it today. We've got Grant Shaps instead. He's had four jobs. This is his fifth this year. Can he do it? Well, look, Grant is a really competent minister. He's very energetic. I like Grant Shaps, but I don't think that he was the right choice for Defence Secretary. I wrote a book on the State of the Armed Forces from a position of knowing nothing about the armed forces. It took me a good six to nine months to get a basic grip on how defence works. It is not something that you can just dip into and suddenly know what you're talking about. In reality, this is a very dangerous time geopolitically. We've got a war going on in Europe. And the Conservatives probably have no more than a year, absolute maximum in power.

So it seems to me extraordinary to have appointed somebody who knows nothing about defence, has no background or relevant skill whatsoever for the defence job. When Rishy Sunaak has, his pick of people who actually do know what they're talking about. Who would that have been in your mind? Well, I don't want to suggest particular people, but there are plenty of people with background in the armed forces who could have appointed, for example, James Heapie, who has the relevant experience.

Ava, anything to swing for the defence of Grant Shaps in your eyes? Oh, well, I think it's not fun, isn't it? You know, he's had five jobs in the last year, so I guess he's qualified in, I don't know, moving shape-shifting or something like that. But, you know, he also did have that half day in October last year when he was chairing the APPG on you. Ukraine and he actually visited Ukraine, didn't he?

So maybe he's got a little bit more than the rest of them. But, you know. Pork, aren't getting a bad looking at the moment. But it is the majority view at the moment. I'm afraid that he's just about a cabinet reshuffle away. Richard, Mitch McConnell freezing. Again, this is in the US. Of course, Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell,

appearing to freeze during a press conference. What am I thought about what? Running for re-election in 2006. Did you hear the question? Senator running for re-election in 2026? All right, I'm sorry, you all, we're going to need a minute. I mean, in broadcasting, dead air is a crime where you just allow seconds to pass. That's painful to listen to. Obviously, he's not broadcasting. He's 81 years old. He was asked whether he would run for re-election, and he just paused. I mean... It's the second time, I think, in about six or eight weeks that this has happened to him.

You feel for him, from a personal level, from a health point of view, it is extraordinary in American politics, how people seem to go on and all and on. on to the point where that happens, we see some pretty bad things happen with Joe Biden. You know, has he or hasn't he got dementia? It's so different to how things occur politically here. I mean, once you're sort of, I don't know, north of 65, let alone 70 here, the serious question of my heart, let alone in your 80s. And sadly, we're now seeing the consequences. I don't think you could set an age limit, but there has to be a health and competence limit. No, I'm not the ageist about it. No, pilots can't fly beyond 60, operating heavy machinery that, you know, has the lives of many in their hands.

I mean, surely the government classes many lives. Yeah, I mean, also, like, you can't, you have to get a new driving license every year after 70, you know, I mean, if you can't drive without someone checking that you're okay to do it, that man clearly can't drive, I would not want him behind the wheel of a car. He shouldn't be in charge of legislation. And to me, it just sort of reads of toxic masculinity, because what I don't understand is, why is this man holding this position, not giving it to say, someone younger, why isn't he moving out the way? Why is he still there? Go on his bell. He's standing down, couldn't he?

He doesn't look toxic to me. But he's holding onto that seat. I think it was horrible to watch. I don't like to watch. I just think you wonder what these people's families are saying. You know, why aren't the family saying, look, you're clearly not in any position to be in this job. It strikes me as a little bit negligent on the part of those who love him.

And I will say on behalf of the masculinity around us, Nancy Pelosi held onto her position and it still holds for a long, long time, and she's certainly no spring chicken either. Let's take a look, though, at something else, a little lighter that we wanted to give you a look at. A beach towel that apparently looks like Elvis. Take a look. Can you see Elvis in this? A couple have been all shook up.

This is in their holiday in Greece. Then it's an uncanny resemblance, the king of rock and roll on the grey beach towel. Can you see it? Myra Hindley. I don't see that at all. No. Okay, now I can just about see it.

Yeah, that's lost on me. When they said Elvis on the beach tower, I thought he meant an actual body double or something. Elvis has appeared. No. Not actually. I think it's a stretch. You know, we call this silly season in news in August where people are just scrabbling around and finding. Patterns on pieces of toast and toast.

Yeah. Yeah. I always like those stories. Pies, clouds. Jesus in the bacon. We've seen it all. Speaking of which, do get your thinking, Haps on, because we're going to get you back in about half an hour's time to ask you what your favourite.

news stories of the summer where to wrap up this while we go back to school with Pearce Morgan on Monday we look forward to see you back here in the studio shortly. Well, Uncensored next night as the Duke of Sussex picks yet another fight with the tabloids in his latest Netflix documentary will debate who the public are backing in the ongoing battle of the Prince versus the press. Welcome back to Uncensored. Now the latest battle in the seemingly never-ending war between Prince Harry and the press is centred around this moment at the moment from his new not Netflix documentary Heart of Invictus.

Three young British soldiers all wrapped in plastic and their bodies in pieces. I saw what only people had talked about. That was the real trigger for I'm now seeing the real cost of war. Stepping foot off the plane, I was angry that this has happened to these guys. I was angry that the media weren't covering it. Well, in response to that accusation that the media weren't covering it at the time, the Sun published this front page today stating, quote, we did care, Harry, and we still do, citing its extensive support for the forces over the years. Now, the question, of course,

is who the public backs in this latest skirmish between the Prince and the press? Or are we all just fed up with the fighting world to debate this? I'm joined by the author and historian Tessa Dunlop, the former Royal and former defence editor at the Sun Duncan Larkham, plus the former head of Royal Protection, Di Davis. Three of you, thank you for joining me. Tess, I'll come to you first, because is there any part of you that can understand why the press, the British media, have got so up and arms about that one sentence in this Netflix documentary about the press not caring? The press needs tricks, they need oxygen, and it's so obvious why they've gone for that one line.

I can understand why there's a lot of umbrage going on, because it's true. Actually, for over 100 years, our tabloid press have been very good at campaigning, particularly for British soldiers. and the Help for Heroes campaign, that muscle, that tabloid muscle, I think, shouldn't be underestimated. But at the same time, Harry's reality in that moment, and if you look back, because I did check back to 2015, the time he's taken off, he's an angry young chap at the time because his story had been leaked in the American press, not fair enough, the British press. And so he is brought back to Britain, and all the headlines in that moment around that time were about Harry, not about those critically injured soldiers in the same aeroplane.

So there are two truths in this story. Let's bring in Duncan on that, responding to Tess's point then, that their focus at the time really was on Harry and not on the soldiers. Yes, it was. But in that plane was a guy called Ben McBean, who was a double amputee. That's one of the wounded soldiers Harry was talking about. And he worked with the son for years after that. We paid him a lot of what involved with him,

and we helped draw attention to wounded soldiers. So Harry's just, it's just once again a big shot of the... And basing it, frankly. Go on, Tess. I think, well, I just think lies to barrel accusation is unhelpful. I think we can step back and say that was one line, Duncan, in a five-part series, which I think generally has seen people coming by,

behind it. The consensus is this is an impressive series. Indeed, it's an important series at the moment. Let's bring in Die. Sorry, Duncan, I will come back to you, but Die, former head of royal protection. There's no sort of big surprise to anyone, but Harry doesn't like the media. He's been waging legal complaints against them and, you know, a battle of his own against them. So does this come as any surprise to you? No, it doesn't come as any surprise. Surprisingly, I agree with a great deal that Thessadano, has said. sometimes I don't always agree, but on this occasion I do. However, there is the truth and then there's Harry's truth. And I think that's been demonstrated many, many times now over the last few years. He has his truth and I've no doubt he believes it. But I think

with great respect he's been to the same school of advice as his uncle Andrew. In other words, not very good. And I think we should concentrate more on these injured people. He's getting all the publicity. We should really be concentrated. on these amputees and these poor men and women who have suffered. They're the key things. And I think, Harry, with great respect, you should stand to one side and emphasize more the fact that you are helping them, but so are many, many others, including the press. Di, have you watched the Heart of Invictus? I know it's five parts and you've probably got a busy life, but have you tuned into it at all? No, in fairness, I haven't. I've just heard all day,

and I've been commenting like you probably all day. I've just done a six and a half hour journey from North Wales down to here to speak to you guys. So no, I haven't had a chance. I will out of professional curiosity and the ability to speak honestly and sincerely. But with great respect, let's concentrate on those men and women who have been injured. They suffered far more than Harry ever has in my humble opinion. But I, with great respect, the series imbalance is 90% the injured veterans of war

and about 10% the Duke of Sussex with a flash in the pan couple of moments including the Duchess. I actually think what's impressive about the series is the balance. It's Harry liked just enough of the magic royal fairy dust and where the imbalance, if you like, has come in is the press coverage

off the back of the series. Duncan, I want to bring you back in on this because one of the points the sun has actually raised which they're calling one of Harry's lies on this, is that at the Millie's award ceremony in 2011, Harry attended, gave a keynote speech and thanks all of those involved in laying on the marvellous evening. This is a campaign backing help for heroes,

which the Sun helped launch. Is that the main point of contention here? I was there tonight, and I was involved when I was the defense editor, in organising the entire event. For Harry to say that the plight of British soldiers wounded in Afghanistan was ignored by the press. I'm sorry, it's not true. And what do we do? We have to pull out a print who is telling lie after lie after lie. Well, Tessa, what does that impounders that impact public sympathies towards Harry? I totally understand that Duncan, as a

former tabloid editor, feels passionate about the good that tabloids do, because often we talk about the bad they do, including Harry in that narrative, incidentally. However, to accuse him of telling lie after lie is over-egging the pudding. Yes, he said in that moment he felt the attention was on him, why wasn't it on the maimed victims of war? But actually, his whole series is on the pity of war, and I think it's beautifully constructed, and it's not full of Harry lies. So let's not pile on the inaccuracies and double down on them. Let's stand back and say, that was one line, one emotive line from Harry, but otherwise, I think the series at this time, when there's a bit of a

wobble going on behind the Ukraine campaign, it's a force for the good. Let's let one lie go. That doesn't matter. The fact is what he uses his platform to distort and to give false account of what is the reality and we're getting

the public again. The invictors is incredible thing that Eric has done and he deserves a credit for him. But when he goes and tells lies, tells lies about his family, lies about it's not acceptable. It's fake news.

Duncan, your line is slightly breaking up, so I didn't mean to break in you totally there. Hopefully it re-establish. You want to go to die in the meantime and just ask that idea of the public sympathy side of this. Are they seeing more about the Invictus Games and the soldiers? This is rehabilitating Harry's image, this documentary, or is it a PR backfire?

Well, I don't know, is the honest truth, because I haven't seen it. So I will, as it were, stand judgment. But reading some of the comments I have on various social media, about 6,000 to one, really, don't support him, which is sad. In respect to what Tesla said, perhaps if he put two or three percent in about himself other than the 10 percent. But I do say he's a grown man now. He's 40. Yes, he's experienced things. but so have so many, and to keep harping on about it with great respect, I don't think he does himself justice,

and indeed I agree with Duncan, that some of the things he has said, even about his brother on this occasion, as I understand it, isn't true. He was supported, and arguably has had more support than most people. You think about a squadi that was brought up in a council estate and had two legs grown off and a thing. How much support other than from the help,

the heroes and indeed the military. And I think it's decrying. I know a lot of military officers and men and they're absolutely horrified. So they tell me in the short period we've had about what he's coming out with. All I would say is I've often heard Harry tell his story and it's never elicited a tear. I've never cried for Harry. I was flying back yesterday from Romania and I watched two episodes back to back and the man said, are you all right, love? Tears pouring down my cheeks because the stories in that heart of Invicta series are so moving. Nothing to do with Prince Harry. So I would beseech both you and Duncan to please watch it first and comment second.

And I think we found a replacement for Stacey Dooley. Or perhaps a partner for it. I mean, he's quite brilliant. He's very congenial. He's very warm. This is Harry as best. Even the Times newspaper said that. I really beseech you to watch it.

Duncan, die. That's your viewing for this evening. Sort of a causing to test a Dunlop. Go on. Sorry, Duncan. Your line isn't as clear as... He's watched it twice. You've watched it twice. Have you had time to watch a five-part series twice?

Somebody has gone there, but I always respect... Tessa, I always respect what you say, and I certainly will take up the offer once I've had a cup of tea. You go put the kettle on, Dye. Duncan, Dyer and Tessa, thank you very much. Uncensored next tonight, after Republican presidential candidate, Vivek Ramoswamy, attempts to wrap one of Eminem's biggest hits, the rapper, is used a cease and desist letter to stop him. Should politicians be allowed to use music by musicians who hate them? Right to the show now, one of the most unexpected rap battles in history is underway. On the left, perhaps in more ways than one. That's Eminem. On the right, you get the idea. That's high-flying presidential hopeful Vivek Ramoswami. This unlikeliest of spats began when Vivek went viral for rapping to Eminem's lose yourself at the Iowa State.

Everybody's joking now, the clock's run out, time's up overplow, snap back to reality. Oh, there goes gravity, oh, there goes rabity choke. He's so mad, but he won't give up that easy. Now Eminem's lawyers, after that issued an immediate cease and desist letter banning Ramaswamy from ever doing it again, at least in public. So was Eminem right to protect the integrity of his work in this urban genre from appropriation by a wealthy politician? or as he lost himself. To debate all of it, I'm joined by Los Angeles. America's number one, Eminem impersonator on YouTube,

Vincent Marcus. Maga rapper Forgiato Blow. He is in Florida for us and outkick host Tommy Lauer, a friend of the show, joining us from Nashville as ever. I will come to you first, Forgeato. Is the performance worth it? Was Vivek doing any good? I get me 8 out of 10.

I think Eminem needs to go back to reality, though. The real some shit he needs to stand up. You know, he made his whole career on bashing white America, picking on people to get on. He is the face of hate speech when hate speech even started. I don't see any problem with Vec doing the song. I mean, does he have a problem with a man of color playing his music? No one Detroit's ever played his music.

He seems like he thinks his music is for drug dealers and drug users. White America bought his music. So there shouldn't be an issue with freedom of speech, I feel. Vincent, you're the number one Eminem impersonator. What did you make at a performance? I thought it was great. Nine out of ten. Because he really had the, you know,

Stan back, too. He had the like the Eminem doose honk, like that honk, perfect, perfect, perfect inflection on there. So I really, really nice job there. Yeah, I think he did great. So why did Eminem not like it then? I think that's obviously politically motivated. I think because he was so anti-Trump,

vocally, very vocally, so much in fact the Secret Service came to him and questioned him about his lyrics and the validity of them. And so I think he just wants to stay out of politics. And he's like, uh, maybe not. You know, I'm out. I think he learned his lesson on that for a little bit. Well, let's remind ourselves of the number of musicians that have banned Donald Trump, a certain former president from playing their music at his event. Adele Aerosmith, the Beatles, Bruce Springsteen, Eddie Grant, Elton, John. I mean, he'd go, Pavarotti, nickelback, Farrell, Williams, Phil Collins, Prince, Queen, R.E.M. I mean, it goes on and on and on. Tommy, what's all this about? Oh, I think it's obviously politically motivated, and I'm sure Eminem, Slim Shady, doesn't want a Republican candidate singing to his song. But the real winner here is actually Vivek, because although he might have gotten that cease and desist letter, it really doesn't matter because we're talking about it.

And that's what Vivek wants. He wants to create some kind of a controversy. He wants to get earned media airtime. and this story has continued to progress. So by Eminem's company Slim Shady, by them sending the seasoned assist letter, they've just really helped Vivek out, get him more airtime, get more press about the issue, and it's also cemented his underdog status, right? Which people love.

Yeah, I mean, you've got a point, Tommy. We're talking about it right now here on a show from the UK. It's got our attention that much. Fortiato, coming to you. I mean, Ramoswami, he's had a life of some privilege compared to Evan. He went to Yale and Harvard, Forbes. says he's worth $950 billion. Is it cultural appropriation?

I don't think it is because what M&M be where he was at if he didn't have G-unit and 50-cent walking him in and Dr. Dre getting him where he was going. I mean, Eminem, yeah, he probably had a struggle just like everybody here. It wasn't easy for you to get your job. But, you know, I think Vivek's doing a good job. Like we're saying, he's getting his name out there. Obviously, I'm voting Trump.

But I like Vivek. I think he's doing a good job on the campaign trails. And, you know, he did say he'll pardon Trump. So I like that. Okay. Vincent, in terms of just politicians trying to seem cool, using rap music to try and get attention, like Tommy was saying, is it at all worth it? Do you think it helps them in the polls? I think so. I mean, I really enjoyed the performance, and I think that it definitely did help, or it will, because again, like Tommy said, we're talking about it. So, again, I think it's a nice tool for politicians to use to sort of gain some more.

attraction. But yeah, I think, again, I don't see anything wrong with what he did. But again, if you get a season to CIS letter from Eminem, that's pretty gangster. That's cool. Like, that's cool in itself. So like Eminem, the biggest gangster of all time was just like, you know what? Maybe you want to pull back a little bit by then maybe, maybe pull back. So that's just, that's cool. Vincent, have you ever met Eminem? Has he ever sent you a Cesar to Ciss letter? No. If I got one from him, I would say, oh my gosh, I exist. I would love that. But no, he has not reached out.

I have not met him yet. I would love to. But no, not yet. Okay, all right. Well, maybe he'll watch this, and maybe he'll get in touch with you and tell you what makes of your impersonations. Look, Tommy, politicians kind of trying to seem cool.

Let's look at this latest clip we've got of a certain Ted Cruz. They're trying to go after and regulate ceiling fans. I got to tell you, it's hot in Texas. We don't want to get rid of our ceiling fans. And now these idiots have come out and said, drink two beers a week. That's their guideline. Well, I've got to tell you,

if they want us to drink two beers a week, frankly, they can kiss my ass. No, okay. Left the news anchor there. Pretty speechless, Tommy. That is Ted Cruz. Getting some chaps, some cowboys behind him to crack open a brusky at the same time

and to prove what a down-to-earth guy he is. Does this kind of shtick work? I think it actually is pretty authentic to Ted Cruz to speak that way. I mean, he's a Texan. So I think that it resonates. And as long as he's not drinking Bud Light, I think that the Republican Party is going to be okay with it, as we know, with the Bud Light controversy.

So that's a sore spot for conservatives, being that the Bud Light boycott is still ongoing. But I'll say this. It really depends on your audience, right? So he's a Texan. That's the way Texans talk. The Vake, he's a young guy rapping. Although when they try to play up to this hip-cool attitude around an audience of, Iowa State Fairgoers. I'm not sure that it really resonates with that audience, but I think it's all

about just being authentic. You know, if we've got Chris Christie up there, rapping 50 cent, I'm not sure that that's going to do well for him. So it depends on the time, the place, and the person. If you've got a natural swag, you can do it. Let's not forget that Donald Trump over the years has been dozens of rap songs. So he's actually the OG of this. Before they hated him, they love to rap about him. Well, how about Trump rapping? This latest clip that has appeared online, an AI developed Trump rap track that's topping the charts. Yeah, I think it was great. It's great for the culture. Any song that shots out, Danny Johnson, I love it. I was outside the jailhouse. And a lot of people aren't really showing the support. You know, Donald Trump's getting from the brown and black community. They were out there. So I think it was very cool. You know, there's a lot of people like myself out there's a lot of people. I'm glad he got that spot. I hope he gets that number one spot for Donald Trump. And just quickly, though, I mean, there's a lot of lyrics in there that obviously Trump hasn't said himself, but AI has created about shooting people. I mean, is that going to help his campaign?

I didn't hear anything in there about shooting anybody, so I didn't hear that. But I think it just, you know, sometimes people have got to laugh and have fun, right? Everything's so serious. People weren't worried about Eminem when he was talking about Robin, killing and shooting every gay person in America. Now they're supporting him. So, you know, I just think that was great. I like the song. Eminem not running for president, though.

Obviously Trump didn't create that song himself. It's AI generated. Maybe I miss heard the shooting thing. I'll take it back and listen again. But one thing we do want to listen to again. and this is with Vincent in mind very carefully let's once again listen to Vivek Ramoswami rapping Eminem everybody's joking now the clock's run out time's up over plow snap back to reality

oh there goes gravity oh there goes rabiddy choke he's so mad but he won't give up that he's he go now Vincent America's got talent that's what you were involved in your America's number one Eminem impersonator how should he have done that better give us a go um I very close to it, but you got to hit that, ah, you got to hit that. Because he starts off with the whisper, right? But if it starts to get mad, it goes back to slam, stage two. But then we start to get really pissed off. It starts to scream.

It's lose yourself in the music. The moment you won't it, you better never. Very good. Very, very good. You've got us convinced too. Look, gentlemen, four Giotto, Vincent. Thanks very much. Tommy, do stick around.

We're going to keep you on for the end of the show. Talk a few more things. Newsie from the summer. It's been great talking to you all. Uncensored next tonight from a stricken submersible to a presidential mug shot with an unwanted kiss in between. The summer of 23 has not been a quiet one. But what will define it? We'll find out next.

Back to Uncensored. On Monday, the Lord of this manner, Piz Morgan, he's going to be back in charge after his summer break, refreshed, restored, recharge. He's had a good time. It's also done a bit of work this week. So, given it's my last show here, In for Piers, and the last one before the new term begins, we thought it would be interesting to look back at some of the stories that have defined. summer 2023 around the world. Here to present their own picks political journalist Ava Santina,

Talk TV International editor Isabel Oakshot, and talk TV presenter Richard Tice and Nashville. Outkick host Tommy Lairn, still with us as well. All four of you, thanks for bearing with us on this one. It is the end of August. We thought it was worthy. Richard, start by telling us what you think the most important or the best story the summer was.

The most extraordinary story for me has been this barge, the Bibby Stockholm. It's almost as though we've like, we feel as that we've stayed on it because it's been this sort of dead cat that the government threw out there as the solution to the hotel crisis for the, uh, for the asylum seekers. And it's been just catastrophe after catastrophe after catastrophe. You know, was it, uh, was it sort of certified in terms of its fire safety? Yes or no. Big questions over that. Uh, then actually the, some of the first migrants actually arrived on board and then someone says, oh, have we checked the water? Does it work? Is it tested or not?

Oh, no, it's not. So within three or four days, they're taken off. And you think, well, this has just gone from bad to worse. And now the Fire Brigade Union once again are saying, actually, that it's not going to be safe, never will be safer, the number that they wanted. You sort of think that basically this has just been a distraction. It'll never be occupied. It's a bit like the Rwanda scheme.

It'll never happen. It's just sort of red herring. British farce, isn't it? You know, you forgot the bit about one of the asylum's, you know, you forgot the asylum seekers or their lawyers claiming that they're afraid of water, which is slightly unfortunate in terms of their choice of coming to Britain, you know, a country that is unfortunately for them an island and is constantly deluged by rain. You know, you just couldn't make this stuff up. It's just been lurching from one ridiculous situation to another loads and loads of money

wasted. It's so classically British. The Bibby Stockholm Barge, that's Richard's choice. Let's go to Tommy now and ask you, Tommy, what was your story of the summer? Well, I don't know. I don't know if it hits the same over in the UK, but I'll tell you here in the United States of America, I think the biggest story of the summer revolves around kind of what I talked about in the last segment, and that is the absolute tanking, the funeral of the iconic American brand Bud Light after that disastrous partnership with the trans TikTok influencer Dylan Mulvaney. So this is a big deal in the United States, not just because of an iconic American brand really suffering huge losses, but also because this is one of the first times that conservatives in the USA have led a boycott that's had sticking power.

And it's not just Bud Light target sales dropping. We've had the explosion of popularity of songs like Try That in a Small Town by Jason Aldeen and then Richmond, North of Richmond by Oliver Anthony Music. So we are actually taking a stand here. We are canceling cancel culture, but we're also taking a stand for some of our ideas, our rights, our ideologies, our convictions. It really hasn't been done a lot on the conservative side, but boy, we're just getting started over here. Well, Tommy, I've seen some conservative commentator states I'll actually say, ask their fellow peers and conservative immunity to stop talking about Dylan Mulvaney so much because you're just giving them airtime. What do you make of that?

Well, Dylan Mulvaney is going to get airtime regardless. I mean, just got a stream the award earlier this week for breakout content creator. Dylan Mulvaney's not going anywhere. But I'll tell you this. there are going to be students studying the Bud Light marketing disaster for generations to come. I'll tell you that one. This is a lesson in marketing or in this case how not to market your brand to American consumers. So hopefully lesson learned.

Ava, I can see you having some reactions here in the studio. Tommy said it may be to American for a British audience. Do you agree? Well, no, I mean, it hit over here, didn't it? It was a huge story here. But I mean, I think also the cultural significance of Bud Light, I mean, particularly the sort of people who were out now, it was Kid Rock, who was particularly furious with it.

I think he actually shot a can of it off the side of his property. I mean, perhaps that, you know, the South wasn't ready for something as, well, I mean, look, I think in Britain as well, I think we quite enjoy. What do you even say to this? I just don't even think it's a problem, and I just think the whole blow-up of it is just a bit of the culture war and quite sad, actually. And it's kind of like that. Why is that?

I'll never buy Bud Light again. It's a delicious beer. Did you buy it before? Absolutely, no. It's, I mean, it's a good drink. I like Bud Light. But I will consciously not buy it again. Just as you don't go to Costa anymore.

Just as I won't go to Costa anymore. And so, you know, go broke. It's very clear, and they're going broke. Well, I don't know. I mean, I wouldn't be caught dead with the Bud Light, but that's because I like an actual beer. But, you know, they're coming in with the swipes. Let, let's give you your chance to tell us your story of the summer.

So this is actually a much more serious and sad one. which is the Titanic submarine story. I just think that this tale, journalistically and on a human interest level, was utterly gripping. You know, the whole world was watching as to the fate of these poor people who went down there. And of course, literally, they weren't poor.

The reason they were in that sub in the first place is because they were able to afford incredibly expensive tickets to go down in this glorified tin can. And that was part of the debate, wasn't it? People all thought, well, if I had that money, if I had $250,000, which I think was the price per ticket, would I have spent it in that way? Everybody could in some way relate to whether you would or wouldn't actually put yourself in that position. And the whole kind of hour by hour is the oxygen running out. What is the way out for them?

The rescue attempts. It was just awful. And one of those stories where every morning you'd wake up, and I think even some of us, journalists wake up in the middle of the night might have checked our phones to see if there was any update and so sad that it had such an awful ending. I think you summed it up well it was a conflicting story and that's why it pulled on so many heartstrings. I've anchored a two-hour special we did here on talk TV that evening about it and spoke to lots of friends of survivors, you know, of some of the men rather victims that went down, you know, and they were talking heartfelt, you know,

heart-rending stories about the people that they were missing, you know, and that they were explorers and everything else. And then afterwards. You had the technical information of what the man who was running the organisation, Ocean Gate, had led them into. And for many, when you actually drilled into it, it was an accident waiting to happen. It was

a tragedy that people had forecast. So there's a lot of information that came out afterwards, and I suspect more will come out with the inquiries in due course. It will surely be made into a film. A bit like the tired boy, the boy stuck in the tight cave, you know,

the hour by hour moment by brilliant drama, but just a horrible tragic ending. We even heard that night of the sort of coverage of it from James Cameron himself. He, of course, directed Titanic and was sort of stunned by what was unfolding. Tommy, was the Titan submersible story such a big deal in the US as it was here? Oh, it absolutely was. I think it gripped the entire world and a few stories have the ability to do that and have that kind of reach.

Obviously, a horrible tragedy and something that we all felt. And I think it's a moment we can all come together as well. There's been so many things dividing us all over the world. And so when we can come together and we can pray for people and we can think of people and we can cover a story and discuss a story, I think that's the silver lining. All of it is it reminds us that we all have the same heart at the end of the day. So certainly a story of the summer. Ava, coming to you now, what is your story of the summer? It was Brian Johnson, this millionaire who wants to look like his son.

And so he's getting up at 5 o'clock in the morning. He's eating his last meal by 11 a.m. he's stuffing 54 pills into himself during that time he's sleeping for actually not very long but he's injecting himself with all sorts and apparently he looks he looks younger but to me he looks about his age which is around 45 i mean i think that looks quality of life this is what i find so weird you're spending so much time trying to prolong his life where's the fun in his actual life well yeah totally i mean i wonder how the sun feels i mean would you like it if your your mother was trying to I think Freud would have a lot to say about this,

about the motivations behind why he's doing this, competing with his son as well. But, I mean, Richard, if you were given the opportunity to make yourself 20 years younger in appearance, would you go into? I think it sounded a miserable existence. Everything was so regimented. I mean, you know, you've had to book a slot

if you want to have sex or anything. The whole thing is completely ridiculous. What's life's worth for enjoying and a bit of spontaneous activity, surely, One would think so. Look, Tommy, did you follow this story? And would you be tempted to make yourself? I mean, look, you look gorgeous anyway.

Listen, I'm 31 years old. So if you took 20 years off of me, I don't think I could be on this program right now because I'm still in elementary school. But, hey, listen, I think another story of the summer is the wide use of OZMPIC and semi-glutide in Hollywood and around the world. I mean, that's kind of similar to this story,

but that really blew up over the summer. And I don't think it's going anywhere anytime. Yeah, you're right there, Tommy. And you know what, Pierce Morgan was also talking about the Zenpick when he was over in LA a few weeks ago saying that he's not following the Zempick diet, tweeted a picture of a big steak in front of him. But he said everyone, it seems to be on it over there. Now, my favorite story of the summer, I know you're going to know this one. It was great. It gripped all of us. This is the bear that was not a human in a bear suit in the Hongzhou Zoo in China. This sun bear that stood up waving. We've sensed it to the lower

half of the bear. I do enjoy that. From behind, he does look like a bit of a, I think it's a female bear, actually, but does look like a human in a bear suit. It got a lot of people talking. Was it really a bear? Was it a human? From various angles, I could have been convinced on either side, but apparently it really is a sun bear. I mean, Isabel, were you convinced? Initially, when I first glanced saw it, I thought that's ridiculous. That's definitely a person in a bear suit. But then I did a bit of research on what these bears look like, and that is what they look like. Yeah, yeah, it was a bear. Ava, they say that the

attendance at the zoos has gone up through the roof now. Everyone wants to go see a sun bear. Would you go? I'm fascinated to know what was blurred. You know, what was taken off of the screen there, so maybe I will go and have a look, investigate myself. But fantastic

marketing, if that's the truth. Yeah. If the numbers went up, brilliant. Let's take another look at it again. Would this convince you to go away to Heng Shui and China? You don't have to go to Heng Shu, in fact. You can go to other zoos as well lots of them piled in on this i mean it's a great looking bear as well but the chinese zoo did deny it was strange i do sometimes wonder whether there is a little bit of kind of latent racism here with people assuming that the chinese are just trying to hide something from all of us and

that they really put a human and a bear suit and they had to really prove here that this is what sun sun bears do actually look like let thanks all four of you for joining us for that silly end of summer peace before peers returns to the show on monday don't miss that thank you so much to my channel, Tommy, Ava, Isabel and Richard. That's it from me. I'm uncensored. It has been a pleasure sitting in full peers. He's going to be back on Monday with those big guests, big views, big interviews,

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