Piers Morgan Uncensored - Princess of Wales Returns!

Episode Date: June 17, 2024

The Princess of Wales made a triumphant return to public duties this weekend. It was her first official public appearance since Christmas Day. Kate revealed that she is still receiving treatment, incl...uding chemotherapy, for an unspecified form of cancer. That treatment is expected to continue for several months. But make no mistake, this was a huge moment for the royals in an historically wretched year. King Charles, aged 75, is still fighting cancer too. Conspiracy theories swirled for months about the health and whereabouts of Princess Catherine. Her badly-edited Mother’s Day photograph was an unmitigated PR disaster. But this weekend, against all odds, she was back at her glamorous best. And the crowds loved it. So, have the royals now turned a corner on a dark chapter? Have the Kate-spiracies been banished for good? Or were they - in fact - correct? And has there EVER been a more feeble attempt to overshadow a state occasion than Meghan Markle’s decision to unveil a range of dog biscuits on the very morning of Kate’s return? Uncensored contributor Paula Rhone-Adrien, Royal Editor, Sarah Hewson & Royal Historian Tessa Dunlop join to debate. But first, Fox News contributor, Dr Marc Siegel gives his thoughts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Princess of Wales made a triumphant return to public duties this weekend. It was her first official public appearance since Christmas Day. Kate revealed that she's still receiving treatment, including chemotherapy, for an unspecified form of cancer. That treatment is expected to continue for several months. But make no mistake, this was a huge moment for the Royals in an otherwise historically wretched year. King Charles, age 75, is still fighting cancer too. Conspiracy theories swirled for months about the health and whereabouts of Princess Catherine.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Her badly edited Mother's Day photograph was a mitigated PR disaster But this weekend against all odds She was back at her glamorous best And the crowds loved it So as the Royals now turned a corner On a pretty dark chapter Have the Kate Spiracy's been banished for good
Starting point is 00:00:44 Or were some of them in fact correct And has there ever been A more feeble attempt to overshadow a state occasion The Mega Markle's decision To unveil a range of new dog biscuits On the very morning of Kate's return But joining me now Are our Sensor Contributor in Law.
Starting point is 00:00:58 lawyer, Paula Ron Adrian, world editor Sarah Houston, Royal historian and author, Teza Dunlop. But first, Fox News contributor, Dr. Mark Siegel, across the pond in New York. Dr. Mark, great to see you. Hi, Pearce. Good morning. I want to talk to you first, because you've got to dash after we do this.
Starting point is 00:01:17 About the health aspect, because I was struck by what she said, the Princess of Wales, I'm making good progress, but as anyone going through chemotherapy will know there are good days and bad days, On the bad days you feel weak, and tired, and you have to give into your body resting,
Starting point is 00:01:35 but on the good days when you feel stronger, you want to make the most of feeling well. My treatment is ongoing and will be for a few more months. On the days I feel well enough, it's a joy to engage with school life, spend personal time with things that give me energy and positivity as well as starting to do a little work from home. And then she then detailed she may attend some events
Starting point is 00:01:55 and how grateful she was for everyone's support and understanding. reading between the lines there, because there's no royal statement that's ever made, you know, this accidental in its phraseology. What did you make of that? You know, Pierce, I thought it was inspiratory, and I'll tell you for several reasons why. It was great to see her. I think she looked vital. I think it's her own hair, and I'll explain what that means medically in a minute.
Starting point is 00:02:23 I thought her photography is back in form, and I think she sent a message of good cheer, positivity, and hope. to the public, which the world badly needs right now. It's actually what the role of the Royals is in the UK, isn't it? And I think everyone responded with good cheer to this. The medical part is I've been saying from the beginning that I was suspicious that this could be a GI cancer that was found surindipitously if they were operating on her for inflammatory bowel disease. Why do I think that?
Starting point is 00:02:57 Because she had complications after that surgery, And yes, you could find a colon cancer coincidentally during there in a pathology and decide to give three to six months of chemo. Here's the point. The kind of chemo you get then is milder than if it were gynecological cancer like ovarian where you give something called taxol where you lose your hair and you get a lot sicker. Now, this is not confirmatory and peers. I wish they would come out and tell us which exact cancer it was because that will help me. me and everyone else educate the public for surveillance, for screening, what to look out for. I think they should go all the way with this. But in the meantime, I felt it was an inspiratory appearance.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Yeah, I mean, I thought she looked pretty well considering what she's been through. She looked, I have to say, pretty thin, like she'd been through a real ringer health-wise. And I was struck by that. She looked, you know, quite gaunt. and I say that as someone who just wants her to be as healthy again as she could possibly be. But is that completely natural with any form of cancer at that kind of age? Yeah, I think so. And that speaks to your earlier point, that chemo hits hard no matter what kind it is.
Starting point is 00:04:16 I'm downplaying it a bit here, and I shouldn't. She looks consistent with someone who has some type of underlying disease requiring that surgery, prolonged recovery from surgery, and then weeks and weeks of some kind of keying. chemo. I think that that fit with, as you say, looking a little gaunt, a little bit pale. But again, she could have looked a lot sicker than that, and I admire the courage of her coming out. What did you think about King Charles? He's also, obviously, going through extensive treatment for his cancer. How did you think he looked? I think also, you know, don't forget, he's a lot older. I mean, she's 42. I mean, I thought also he looked fairly good. My theory on King
Starting point is 00:05:01 Charles, and again, I'd like to know exactly what he has, I don't think they do us enough of a service saying, well, we have cancer, but we're not going to tell you the kind. King Charles was found with a treatment for a benign prostatic hypertrophy and large prostate, and usually when you find something surreidipitously during that investigation, it's probably bladder cancer. Now, bladder, if he's getting the treatments that they instill into the bladder, is not as strong a treatment as what Princess Kate is getting. And, you know, he's been more public in his appearances than she has.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Again, I don't have proof of any of this, but it's fitting a pattern. I think his cancer is not as severe as hers is or was. Hers may be completely gone, but again, I think he's looking fairly good, considering ongoing treatments. Right. In America, if you had the president, for argument's sake, by comparison, and the president's daughter-in-law, both diagnosed with cancer, would they reveal what cancer it was? Would there be a clamor for them to do that? Would it be expected?
Starting point is 00:06:09 I mean, listen, Pyrr, as you know, you're seeing our president being led off the stage by the former president, you know, like taking him by the hand. They're obviously not revealing what's going on with him now. Right. But yeah, we would be clamoring for it. We would be clamoring for full disclosure.
Starting point is 00:06:26 It's a different situation, right? Because in the UK, they're not officially leading, but again, they're leading by example and they're leading by inspiration. But no, we have cover-ups here all the time on presidential health, and it doesn't do the public any good. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Dr. Mark, great to see you. Thank you very much. Great to see you, Pierce. Thank you. Sarah, let's start with you. It's interesting, isn't it? Because on one level, they've been more open, perhaps,
Starting point is 00:06:54 than we would have been used to. They've revealed that both Charles and Kate have cancer under receiving treatment. On the other level, because of all the conspiracy theories that have swirled around about both of them for the last six months or so, would it not just be easier to say these are the cancers they're battling? Why are they reluctant to do that? I think while they're undergoing that treatment,
Starting point is 00:07:17 they feel very strongly that they're entitled to a degree of medical privacy. And that's absolutely right. Is it right, is it right? Is it right? They're both cited they want to be role models to other people and inspire people, but how can you do that? if you don't actually say what cancer you've got. Well, one of the reasons is they don't then want people Googling
Starting point is 00:07:36 and speculating about prognosis, for example, and they want to be absolutely clear that they don't want that level of speculation. But that's all going on. Now, it's not been ruled out. It's not been ruled out that they will. That speculation is raging anyway because they're not saying. But I don't think it would stop.
Starting point is 00:07:52 It's much like the conspiracy theories. We've seen the Princess of Wales now. I don't necessarily think it means stop. Haters are going to hate. The conspiracy theories are going to go on. That is a whole industry. in itself. But I think what we have had here is more transparency. And just look at the statement that was released by the Princess of Wales on Friday night. Deeply personal, very intimate, in fact,
Starting point is 00:08:13 talking about those good days and those bad days, talking about the really hard times that she and William have been going through, putting herself in the same shoes as others going through cancer, as those of you going through chemotherapy, who've been through chemotherapy, will know. And I think we have never seen that before. Yes, there's a point at which they want to stop. But actually, she's giving a lot more than we might have expected. It was great to see her.
Starting point is 00:08:39 I mean, I just thought, great. She's back in a carriage looking like a princess. She looked fabulous. But she did look pretty thin. She looked to me like she'd been through a really hellish time probably and was putting a very brave face on it, which was extremely commendable. Can't be easy to be in her position,
Starting point is 00:08:58 mother first off as a wife, you know, and then discover that, you know, you have to go out on parade when you're still having a treatment. It's not easy. And you're out on parade, knowing that everything you do in terms of a glance, catching your breath, is going to be poured over, speculated on, pulled apart. And this is remember, whilst you are with your children. And so, you know, to continue along with Sarah's vein, when she says, actually, they do expect, and should have, at a basic minimum, some respect for their private family life. OK, but I'm not convinced that if you're going to tell people we've both got cancer and you are the king and the future queen, I actually think that given the way the modern world
Starting point is 00:09:44 is, given social media, given the rampant speculation, which is raging anyway and would, I accept your point, it would anyway. There were ridiculous conspiracy theories about her teeth I saw on social media, as if somehow this was a fake K. It's ridiculous. So there are nut jobs out there. But the general conspiracy theories, they're going to get more fueled by less information.
Starting point is 00:10:06 And I can't quite get my head around. If you want to make a real impact, then you need to be a little bit more specific to the cancer you've got, don't you? No, you don't. But if you've got breast cancer, it's not going to have any relevance to somebody who's got lung cancer.
Starting point is 00:10:21 It's my point, right? I mean, if you're more precise, you can be more, I think, more impactful to people who have exactly the same thing. But that's because you and I are having a logical, calm and sensible conversation. You have to understand that Princess Kate and the Royal Family are not dealing with logical, sensible, calm people. They are dealing with people who are quite frankly crazy in their approach.
Starting point is 00:10:43 I'm not talking about the Nudge. But not even the Nutt jobs. No, no, part of the Wack jobs to one side. Let's ignore those. We can part them to one side. And we can then say... I'm talking about generally... But generally speaking, we are talking about...
Starting point is 00:10:55 about a mother who wants to not frighten her children. Yeah. And if she gives over too much information to the public, they will take that information, even with the best of intentions, and they will run rife with it. And I don't think that they're making a firm decision, we're never going to talk about this.
Starting point is 00:11:15 I just think they're not talking about it now. I'm sure. And when they're a bit further down the line, it may well be that she does decide to reveal exactly what's going on. But I think we can stop the platitudes. this is so helpful for others suffering with cancer. We saw when King Charles came out and said he was having treatment for enlarged prostate, very specific.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I bet Pearce being a man of a certain age, banged in in large prostate. Actually, that's exactly what I did. There you are. Because I genuinely thought, oh, that's what he's got. That's interesting. Do I know the symptoms? Do I know how to recognise it? That to me is really helpful.
Starting point is 00:11:49 But if he hadn't said any of that, I'm not sure how helpful. With vague cancer, what do I do, feel my armpit, my breast, you know, up under? The point is, I think most of us, it'd have to be pretty made of stone not to feel a great deal of sympathy with Kate and those people who've been derailed midlife with a massive health scare will feel empathy for her. But I don't think these sort of ideas that it's really useful that she's shoulder to shoulder with other cancer sufferers.
Starting point is 00:12:16 That doesn't really stack up for me. Well, that leads me to the second part of this. Alison Pearson wrote a column in the Daily Telegraph, which got a huge backlash. Because the headline was, Our Fair Lady, Princess of Wales, his selfless display, was the tonic Britain needed.
Starting point is 00:12:33 When lesser mortals would have stayed at home, Catherine proved the show goes on. Now, as I say, a lot of backlash. A consultant clinical oncologist, Clyde Piedel wrote on X as a cancer specialist. I find this level of journalism absolutely appalling. It's hard to know where to begin. Well, the lack of understanding
Starting point is 00:12:51 of how cancer might affect people is this poor. I'm more than happy to, explained to Alison Pearson why this is so bad. Someone else posted, lesser mortals. I'm going through chemo, still working, parenting, doing the housework, making a tea. I'm sick in pain, worried about finances, scared. I'm glad Kate felt well enough to attend,
Starting point is 00:13:10 but Alison Pearson can F right off. I get that because it was a very, I'll start with you, test for mezz. It was a very clumsy phraseology, I thought. I don't think she probably meant it the way it's been taken, but to call people lesser mortals because they weren't able to. I think that appears, why do you think she didn't mean it?
Starting point is 00:13:27 I'm going to assume because of her job and how long she's been doing her job for and sometimes the backlash she's received from other articles that she's written. Actually, she's quite careful in terms of the language that she uses. So I'm going to have to question you on why you thought this was clumsy and that she didn't mean it.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Well, I don't know, as the honest answer. I'm giving her a little bit of license and a sense of when she's less immortal, she probably just meant, isn't she courageous for doing what she's doing? but the implication is if you're not out there doing what she was doing, then somehow you are a lesser person. That, I can understand why that's so offensive to people.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Two things. One is Alison Pearson is a certain breed of individual in this country who I think genuinely believes that the monarchy is in somewhere near a god. You know, all that flummery, the bowing, the curts thing, that they are, they do exist on a higher plane. I know that Kate was one day a commoner, but she's married into the royal family. And I think that Alison probably does have a kind of reverence that none of us, despite whatever we might do with our lives, could ever live up to simply by virtue of the fact she belongs to the House of Winds.
Starting point is 00:14:32 So yes, I do think she thinks everyone else relative to Kate probably is a lower mortal. But in relation to Kate delivered on Saturday in the way that some people with cancer aren't able to deliver, that's where these comparisons are dangerous. Kate is not having the same cancer experience as the giant majority of us. I'm not saying she should, because she's got to go out in front of a million lenses and look like Liza Doolittle. No, but it's perfectly reasonable, isn't it, Sarah, to say that she will be getting absolute Rolls-Roy's treatment. No waiting times. No battling to get the top treatments that, you know, might give you a better chance. And also massive help at home.
Starting point is 00:15:12 And also huge help at home and also access to the very best medical teams that they are. And I think they are very conscious of that and mindful of that. And it's a difficult one to balance, isn't it? When the king first returned to work, and they put out that statement that he wanted to show that it is possible to continue to work while having cancer, actually they were treading quite a fine line between those who don't feel able to work,
Starting point is 00:15:34 also those who have had to continue to work, financial reasons that haven't been able to take that time out. Let's be clear, that 99.9% of people who get cancer will have a completely different experience. Absolutely completely. They're getting, it was once said to me that Royals get the Rolls-Royce treatment, it comes to their health. And I think rightly, you know, if you're going to have them, as you said,
Starting point is 00:15:55 on a pedestal, representing the country on the global stage, then I think they should get. But what they don't have is the pressure that Kate has because she is the supermodel of the royal family. There is no other. I mean, check out that balcony. It's fine. They're all doing their thing, but they're Ford Fiesta's.
Starting point is 00:16:11 And Kate is the Lamborghini. And she knows that she has to look a certain way and perform a certain way to live up to the expectation. She's a lightning rod of that. It was only when she went, Phil Cielder. actually, Paul, it. Only then, I think everyone thought, wow, what if something happened to Kate? Yes. You've already lost Harry and Megan, they've gone, right? You've got Charles who's in his mid-70s, he's got cancer. The Kate part of this was a massive blow to be. It was an absolute massive blow, and I don't think I'm being outrageous by suggesting it took us back to the loss of Princess Diana.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Because we saw those three children and the stark reality that their mother was very, very ill. And I think that the problem with the article is that actually what Alison has done is she's pitched Kate against other unwell people. And that's just beyond crass. I accept that. But the three children is a really important point as to why she was there on Saturday as well
Starting point is 00:17:08 and determined to be there because Prince William was on horseback. Otherwise, who was going to look after those children in the carriage? They wanted to show the Wales family out in force first time since Christmas Day. Seeing her on that balcony, those balcony scenes are a snapshot in time. moment in history, aren't they? We've had quite a few lately, of course. There was a very nice moment where Charles and her looked at each other.
Starting point is 00:17:27 And that was a moment because he got both of them going through the same thing. And it's very deliberate. They were standing next to each other. They weren't last year. It was William's standing next to his father. They were shoulder to shoulder and showing that bonnet. But if you look at that balcony scene there, I mean, this is, it's fragile, right? The royal family now is fragile. There's no Prince Philip. There's no queen, right? The Queen mother has died in the last 20 years as well. you've now got the slimmed down rules,
Starting point is 00:17:52 but we never really factored in that very, very quickly after they were slimmed down, two of the major players were going to get hit by cancer. But also where I feel, and this is where I, you know, even as a fellow woman and even when we just sit here briefly in the public eye, the pressure on Kate, it was freezing on Saturday. You knew from the weather forecast it was going to be drafty,
Starting point is 00:18:11 and yet she didn't cut herself any slack. There were no thermals underneath. Well, let's want to take a look at the picture. On Father's Day, yesterday, they issued a picture, a very sweet picture. This is William looking out to see in Norfolk with his three kids, George, Charlotte and Louis. And it was a message from them, their first one.
Starting point is 00:18:31 It says, we love you, Papa. Happy Father's Day. Two Red Hearts signed G.C. and L. And whether they actually wrote those words, probably are likely. But the image is taken by Princess Kay, I think we can assume unedited. But lovely picture, Sarah. And he, William then released a picture of him
Starting point is 00:18:48 and King Charles. playing football when he was a kid, William, was his dad in a full suit. Happy Father's Day, Pa. Sweet messages, again, reaffirming, there's the picture of William and Charles. I mean, who wears a suit to play football with a sign? But I like, you know, it was all very good imagery at the weekend. It was a kind of, it felt like a bounce-back weekend
Starting point is 00:19:09 and much needed for the rules. Yeah, and we got a real insight in behind the scenes, didn't be in all of those images of family life? Seeing Louis on the balcony dancing, seeing Charles, by the way, he's going to be a little handful. He's an absolute legend though. I've got four kids and you always know the ones that are going to be the handful.
Starting point is 00:19:27 He's a third child. George's got William's sensitive, how to behave. Charlotte's got a little twinkler right. He, Louis. She keeps those boys in check as well. Louis is going to be a handful. I can tell you. I want to go back to the picture of Charles in a suit.
Starting point is 00:19:40 That's so spoke to all Harry's narrative about his father. He did his best, but he wasn't really fully in the picture. And there's Charles like, oh God, really must I hang out with this toddler. toddler. I'd rather get back to Highgrove and sign a few documents for, I don't know, it's not the most... Well, apparently, he was on some sort of official duty. Yeah, and then he'd gone out and his son's kicking a ball in the ground. But that was absolutely... I'll tell you one thing about that. So my brother-in-law was a colonel in charge of training William and Harry at Santa's a major academy. So my sister, his wife, used to entertain all the royals when they came to watch
Starting point is 00:20:12 William and Harry. It was several years, this went on. And she saw them at first hand. And she said, The one thing I was really struck by was how tactile Charles was with William and Harry. This is often dying or a die. How tactile. Lots of hugging, lots of kissing. I just do not buy this narrative. Harry wants this all to have about his father.
Starting point is 00:20:31 He's some cold, aloof, distant guy. And actually, Harry himself talked about his father stroking his face and sitting there because he was afraid of the dark until he'd gone to sleep. I don't think it was a completely a cold picture. We now have to reluctantly move to Montecito. because we don't have to though. It's interesting you want to, Piz, but we don't have to.
Starting point is 00:20:50 You're king of the show. I don't want to, but when you have major international celebrities, like this guy, what's his name? So major that you're having to play. Nacho, the polar player, yeah. He's apparently massive in the polo world. But he shared images on the day this was all going down as a big reset for the royals of Megam Markles.
Starting point is 00:21:09 He's a close friend of Harry from Poland, Nacho Figueras, sharing images of jam and dog biscuits that he'd been sent by Mega Markle from her new company. We're down to dog biscuits, Tesla. I mean, you know, I honestly don't really care that much anymore about what these two do. But when they're flogging dog biscuits
Starting point is 00:21:31 is the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, does a little part of you not go, oh dear, this is getting very, very tacky? To me, as a man of considerable wealth, is that you aren't aware that in Fortnham and Mason and you can buy organic honey, retailing at £20, peddled by the Duchess of Cornwall,
Starting point is 00:21:50 otherwise known as Kate, who you revere. It's double standards to call out... Where does the money go from that? The money goes straight back into the coffers of the Duchy of Cornwall, incidentally. Doesn't go to the Royals? I'm so sorry, but the Duchy of Cornwall belongs to the Duke of Cornwall
Starting point is 00:22:05 who voluntarily pays income tax on the profits made by the Duchy. They don't pay corporation tax. They don't pay capital gains. It's run on completely different rules. incidentally, and they're given a massive state advert on Saturday. Oh, William, let's just Google him. Oy, Andy sells jam. Harry and Megan have to take every little moment they can,
Starting point is 00:22:25 clutching its straws, because they're subject to the entire heft of the American tax system, and they don't have a state parade funded by us in which to type their wares. I can't believe you're indignant. Do you think when they left to find freedom that it would constitute flogging dog biscuits? Well, is the march?
Starting point is 00:22:42 Is there a risal paper between? organic honey and jam and dog... I'd say you're being doggis. Well, there's one difference. Frankly, you're being doggis. There's one difference, which is that the other royals you've mentioned do their duty. They do their ship.
Starting point is 00:22:54 They do hundreds of hundreds. So does Harry rocked up from Victus and his dad didn't have to want to say well done? No, duty to his own brand. No, duty to service. That's a charisable act. Nothing to do with it. Oh, Piz. You're so disingenuous.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Do you know you're all right on Kate? You hold it together just. And then you disintegrate into some kind of slathering idiot, imbecile there, I think. When it comes to the Sussex, you don't judge by the same standards. I just find them a constant embarrassment. That's all. That's all.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Don't click on Natchez Instagram account. Sarah, I'm not slathering. I just kind of think every single time we try and have something dignified here, we get these two doing something ridiculous, like flogging dog piss. I just want you to know I'm waiting patiently for my turn. No, I'm not one for pitting these two women against each other. But I did think on Saturday the gulf between them was huge. and it did show just how life has changed for the Sussex is.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Go from what way? Well, there you've got Kate standing side by side with the king on the balcony and then Megan's friends are posting that she's sent them out some jam and some dog biscuits. Now look, if you want to build a business, actually, I don't have any objection to them building a business and this lifestyle brand because if it stops them then selling stories and trying to, you know, monetise their gripes. about the royal family. And she's genuinely building a business that she believes in and a lifestyle brand.
Starting point is 00:24:15 That's great. One of those brands, I mean, you mentioned the honey. She's modeled it on Flamingo Estate, apparently. They sell honey from Julianne Moore, 200 pounds for a pot of honey. Gwyneth Paltrow's Goop, again, one that she's looking at. Gwyneth said a message of support for Kate's. So why are you mocking them? Why are you saying on a balcony?
Starting point is 00:24:34 Because you said the gulf was huge. So presumably you think Kate's wonderful up on a balcony next to the king. as part of an institution we fund. The imagery is very different, isn't it? There's one there standing on a big public occasion. A-lis royals and now Zed-Lis royals, right? But no, they're not royals, Harry and Megan. That's precisely.
Starting point is 00:24:51 They are. They are still royal. They're the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. As they remind us on all their paperwork, they're the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, members of the Royal Family. They just don't do any work for it. If you really want to do your job as a democratic broadcaster,
Starting point is 00:25:06 you would flag up that right in front of the balcony, a vast yellow presence, the Republican movement somehow muscled their way between all the mass media cameras who are trying to work around them and the balcony, impossible to ignore. There is a large, increasingly large grain of sand in Britain that is expanding, that is anti-monarchy.
Starting point is 00:25:23 You can't be anti-Hari and Meghan because we don't pay for them. They don't stand for anything. And that's a really... Paul, you've been very patient. I have. I've tried to remain dignified as if we're on the balcony. We need to remind ourselves of how this story came out
Starting point is 00:25:35 and the story came out on the basis that Megan was promoting her wares, her brand on the day of the trooping of colour. And of course what we find out when we dig deeper is once again that simply wasn't true. It was a third party who had tried to...
Starting point is 00:25:52 It was next show who posted it. And so for me, and this is why I'm glad we talk about, still talk about Megan, because for me, here we have another example, don't we, of how certain parts of the British press are attempting to attack Megan Markle when actually she has...
Starting point is 00:26:08 hasn't done anything wrong. I think it's a bigger problem for Megan Markle, which is actually people have just got a bit bored talking about, even I'm bored talking about. I'm just not that interested. I think they're not that interesting anymore. When you're down to talking about dog biscuits, actually, it's law of diminishing returns. When they were spray gunning the family, call them a bunch of Calas racist with no evidence, right? When they were doing that, it's all big news. Now the flogging dog biscuits are their polo play mates.
Starting point is 00:26:31 That's my point, actually, if they're actually going to get on and run a really genuine business and make a living for themselves in California, rather than... My same rule of course. which is take the titles away. Just do it as individual citizens. But you've forgotten that the last time we met on this platform, we were talking about their tour in Africa and the fact that they'd absolutely kiboshed whatever the royal family was doing for the week because that was all we were talking about.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Yes. So great. This week was trooping the colour and it was all about Kate and the king as it should be. And Megan's friend was banging some dog biscuit on his instant. The two aren't comparable. Why don't we have to think. That's my point about the Gulf. There you go.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Exactly. Not comparable. You've literally proven Sarah's point for her. They're not comparable. One week has. I agree. I agree. We have the dog biscuit floggers in Montecito.
Starting point is 00:27:14 We have the Royal balcony watched by billions around the world. I just wonder why we're referencing these dog biscuits that are going to be sold for hundreds of dollars. Why aren't we referencing the fact that here we have a woman who could have stayed at home, but she has instead decided to forge her own career? She does it at home. She does it at home, peers. I do occasionally. You said she has to stay at home. that she's gone out to forge her own career.
Starting point is 00:27:39 She's gone anywhere. She's just sitting against you. She's no longer relying on the state money, which is what you would have criticised her for, relentlessly. Like I say, you know what? Celebrate the fact that she's been able to be successful. I can't even get that word. It could be dog biscuits. I think I've reached.
Starting point is 00:27:52 I've reached a point now where I even like can't be bothered. And that's the worst thing for them. I'll remind you about. They're like so irrelevant. I can't honestly. I haven't got the energy anymore. I'm just going to say I'm looking for a new job because Piers is never going to talk,
Starting point is 00:28:04 which is the camera. I'm Piers is never going to talk about Megan and Harry again and my services won't be required. It's been really enjoyable. No, it'll be, but there'll always be number four or five on the topic list now, I think. Well, they weren't. The last time we met, they weren't. You've got a very short memory.
Starting point is 00:28:18 I'm going to remind you of this. Well, if they try and plan rival tours at the same time as the world. It wasn't a rival tour peers. We discussed that. It wasn't a rival tour. It was an invitation that they accepted. It's a crowded diary. The royal family are busy every week.
Starting point is 00:28:30 There's always some Duchess of Edinburgh. So you don't want to become between two women. I mean, why am I position, right? There's a reason for that. All right. You know what? I've run out of steam on this. But thank you all very much.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Appreciate it.

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