Piers Morgan Uncensored - “SHAME On Him For LYING” Nigerian Minister Grilled On Trump 'Genocide' Claims

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

ExpressVPN: Right now you can get an extra four months of ExpressVPN for free. Just scan the QR code on the screen, or go to https://ExpressVPN.com/PIERS and get four extra months for free. Is there ...a Christian genocide happening in Nigeria? Many prominent figures think so, with politicians and celebrities from Ted Cruz to Bill Maher to Nicki Minaj speaking out on the issue - and the rap star set to address the UN about it today. The coverage on a reported 50,000 Christians being massacred since 2009 has even moved President Trump to threaten military action and withdraw more than a billion dollars in US aid. To find out more about this, Piers Morgan is joined by Nigerian Foreign Minister Yusuf Tuggar, former Canadian MP and host of ‘The Goldie Show’ Goldie Ghamari and Reverend Zeke Dachomo. Piers Morgan Uncensored is proudly independent and supported by: Tax Network USA: Call 1-800-958-1000 or visit https://TNUSA.com/PIERS to speak with a strategist for FREE today OneSkin: Get 15% off OneSkin with the code PIERS at https://www.oneskin.co/ #oneskinpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If the Nigerian government continues to allow the killing of Christians, the USA will immediately stop all aid and assistance to Nigeria. If they don't, there's going to be held to pay. It's unfortunate that President Trump has been misinformed. There's false narrative that there's some persecution or a genocide. Why isn't it a genocide against Christians in Nigeria? We don't want to be the next Sudan. You dispute the night.
Starting point is 00:00:30 numbers that have been reported to have been killed, but you have no idea how many Christians have been killed. We are not hiding any facts. Right now you have an Islamist government in Nigeria. There is a reason that we're seeing these Islamic militants going around and yelling Allah al-Aqbar. That's not by coincidence. It's easy for her to sit thousands of miles away
Starting point is 00:00:51 and play games with people's lives. I perform barbarians because the Islamic are controlling the government. controlling the government. Let me tell there's a genocide in Nigeria. Nicky Minaj will address the United Nations later today alongside US ambassador Mike Walsh. The Queen of Rap is not often seen at the UN. She's speaking out because like so many people at the moment, she's extremely alarmed about what is happening in Nigeria. It's the most populous country in Africa and one of its wealthiest, but it's fair to say it hasn't traditionally been a big subject for Western media or the US podcast circuit until recently.
Starting point is 00:01:29 That's over a month ago, HBO's Bill Maher said this. If you don't know what's going on in Nigeria, your media sources suck. You are in a bubble. And again, I'm not a Christian, but they are systematically killing the Christians in Nigeria. They've killed over 100,000 since 2009. They've burned 18,000 churches. This is so much more. These are their Islamists, Boko Haram.
Starting point is 00:01:53 This is so much more of a genocide attempt than what is going on in Gaza. they are literally attempting to wipe out the Christian population of an entire country. Where are the kids protesting this? Thank you. Many prominent figures are now raising the issue. Ted Cruz wrote since 2009, over 50,000 Christians in Nigeria have been massacred. It's a result of decisions made by specific people,
Starting point is 00:02:19 in specific places, at specific times. The United States knows who those people are. A series of stories have followed on major U.S. networks, including Fox, whose interviews on the subject were said to have angered President Trump. The US leader is now threatening Nigeria with, in his words, sweet military action, choosing not to rule out both airstrikes and boots on the ground.
Starting point is 00:02:40 He's also threatening to withhold more than a billion dollars in US aid. Just this weekend, government abducted 25 girls from a high school in Nigeria, Boko Haram is being blamed. Understandably, I wanted to find out more about all of this. I expected a Nigerian government to be addressing the situation with urgency and invited the Nigerian foreign minister, Yusuf Taga, to appear on the show.
Starting point is 00:03:01 There was a bit of a bad line, but I'm sure that you and many in the White House will find what followed pretty extraordinary. Well, joining me now is the Nigerian foreign minister, Ambassador Yusuf Tuga. Welcome to you, foreign minister. I appreciate you joining our sense. Thank you for having me, yes. So a simple question, if somewhere between 50 to 100,000 Christians have been murdered in Nigeria says 2009, depending on which bit of a data you want to take up, and 18,000 Christian
Starting point is 00:03:40 churches have been destroyed. Why isn't it, as some people are claiming, a genocide against Christians in Nigeria? Well, to begin with, those figures are completely and totally inaccurate and false. and many in the media have examined them. They fact-checked them. So they come from inter-society and open doors, and they've been shown to be totally inaccurate. What we have in Nigeria is a multi-ethnic, multi-tribal,
Starting point is 00:04:20 multi-religious country of 230 million people. Our nation building project is not an easy one. We have suffered from the effects of things that we have no control over exogenous factors, such as the breaking up of the Libyan state, the killing of Gaddafi, the proliferation of weapons and fighters that have cascaded down to the, the northern fringes of Nigeria and beyond and have affected the entire region. The failure of the EU-Sahel strategy over the years, these are all things that we are suffering the effects of. And we do have Boko Haram in the Lake Chad region that affects not just Nigeria,
Starting point is 00:05:12 but three other countries, Niger, Chad, and Cameroon that we've been contending with, through the multinational joint task force that allows the troops of the countries in the region to pursue the terrorists, 50,000 insurgents and people that were caught in the region of the insurgency having surrendered. And we were in the course of processing them, and some were being rehabilitated, others will be processed through the legal system when Niger had to pull out because of the failure of the EU's health strategy and the military that was experienced in Niger, Burkina Faso and Mali.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Look, you've made it clear that you believe these numbers are wildly exaggerated. The International Society for Civil Liberties and Rule of Law is a non-governmental organization that monitors and tracks human rights abuses across Nigeria in its report in August. It said, jihadism. groups, including Boko Haram and ISIS in Nigeria, had killed over 100,000 Christians in the last 16 years.
Starting point is 00:06:26 It also noted that 60,000 moderate Muslims have been killed in that period, too. Now, I guess my obvious question to you is, if it's not 100,000, then how many Christians have been murdered since 2009? And if it's not 18,000 Christian churches that have been destroyed, how many is it? We in Nigeria have Christians, we have Muslims, we have atheists, we have animists, and when we're counting death tolls, we don't necessarily go by religion. And quite often it's difficult to even identify what religion and individuals that has just lost their lives belongs to. And what we are concerned about is that they are Nigerians, first and foremost. And we've seen these sort of agitations by faith-based organizations that is a prelude to the breaking up to the dismemberment of countries. We've seen it in Sudan.
Starting point is 00:07:33 We know this playbook. It's happened. There were agitations to create South Sudan, which was expected to be a predominantly Christian country. separate from North Sudan, which is meant to be a Muslim country. Now we have a situation where there's fighting, continuous fighting in South Sudan. There's another round about to kick off. The same thing in the North Sudan.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Okay, but let me interrupt. The supposed Muslim fighting each other. So we don't want to be the next Sudan. We will not allow ourselves to be the next Sudan. No, I understand that. faith-based groups that were agitating. They're no longer there to fix Sudan, not north, not south.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Okay. It's Nigeria as a member of the peace. Let me, let me jump in, if I may. Heavy lifting. Foreign Minister, if I may, I'd like to jump in if I may, because you do seem to be avoiding my questions. You know, you don't seem to know how many Christians have been murdered, which I find surprising.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Well, you haven't given me any, you've told me you don't know. I'm not avoiding you. Well, just with respect, with respect, sir, you have not given. No, I know. I know what you said. I understand. But you are, yes, but what you're saying, if you could let me speak, what you're saying is that you dispute the numbers of Christians that have been reported to have been killed,
Starting point is 00:09:05 but you have no idea how many Christians have been killed. What we surely can agree on is how many Christians, churches have been destroyed. Do you know how many? Yes, I do. If you owe back taxes to the IRS, they can garnish your wages and levy your bank accounts. They can even seize your retirement or take your home. Don't let the IRS target you. Call the professionals a Tax Network USA. Their top tax lawyers and enrolled agents are experts and the powerful programs that can help you to eliminate your tax debt.
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Starting point is 00:10:00 Or visit tnusa.com slash peers. Don't let the IRS be the first to act. Over the last two years, there have been 50, 252 churches depending on which region again you are referring to because there are different regions in Nigeria and they there are I can give you the figures right here now so well how many since 2009 since 2009 over since the last five years the attacks not destroyed attacks on churches is 102. So we're not hiding any figures, you see. It's important to understand this.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Same way that there are mosques that are destroyed. I don't even have to mention that. Nigeria is configured in such a way that you have Muslim and Christian populations all across the country. There are, of course, states out of the 36 states that we have, that I have a high concentration of Christians the same way that there are states where you have a high concentration of Muslims. Take, for example, the more recent attacks that have brought about an intensifying of this false narrative that there's some persecution or as the likes of Bilmar even go as far as to say a genocide. The ground zero for that would be venous. If I may, if it's actually more than Bill Ma. If I may, if I may jump in again.
Starting point is 00:11:46 If I may play you. I understand. Can I just finish this? If I may jump in, sorry. If I can just finish this, sorry. The governor of Benway State happens to be a man of the cloth. He's a reverend father. He's a Catholic.
Starting point is 00:12:01 So you can see how it is impossible for him to be concealing what is happening. He would be screaming at the top of his voice. if indeed there was some genocide or if there was some specific calculated targeting of Muslims, of Christians. But he knows there isn't, and that is why he is not doing so. But let me play you a clip from President Donald Trump about this.
Starting point is 00:12:31 If the Nigerian government continues to allow the killing of Christians, the USA will immediately stop all aid and assistance to Nigeria. We're going to do things to Nigeria that Nigeria is not going to be happy about and may very well go into that now disgrace country, guns are blazing to completely wipe out the Islamic terrorists who are committing these horrible, horrible atrocities. I'm hereby instructing our Department of War to prepare for possible action. If we attack, it will be fast, vicious and sweet, just like the terrorist thugs attack our cherished Christians. These are cherished people. These are great people. Leave them alone.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Warning, the Nigerian government better move fast before it's too late. If they don't, there's going to be held to pay. So what is your message to President Trump, who obviously completely disagrees with you? My message is that we have the utmost respect for the United States of America. We have, by extension, the utmost respect for its president, President Trump. It's unfortunate that President Trump has been misinformed by those that trade in generalized labellings. And unfortunately, it has resulted in this statement. We urge that the engagement that is ongoing continues so that we will provide more information and clarity.
Starting point is 00:14:08 We are not the ground for either a jihad nor a crusade. Nigerians have lived in peace, relative peace, with each other for a very, very long period of time. We are the people that populate the confluence of the rivers Niger and Benway, and we will continue to do so. and it's important to be mindful of the complexity of the Nigerian state. It is a multi-diverse state in so many regards, and it is an ally of the U.S. because we've worked successfully together in the past. And we actually appreciate what President Trump has done in the past when subsequent U.S. administrations would not sell Tocano
Starting point is 00:15:05 jet fighters to us, I'm sorry, planes, aircraft to us. President Trump acquies to that. Some of the things that we're experiencing at the moment have a direct linkage to the application of the Leahy law to countries like Nigeria, where they were deprived of weapons to maintain peace at home and help also maintain peace in the region. This is why we continue to experience terrorism in the region, in the Sahel region. Whereas in the past, when we worked successfully together with the US, you could see what Nigeria was achieved. We resettled Sierra Leone, we resettled Liberia successfully.
Starting point is 00:15:55 And our multinational joint task force was very effective in the fight against terrorism. Until. Yeah. Minister, just stay there for a moment, if you will. because joining me now is the former Canadian MP Goldie Gamari, host of the Goldie Show, who has spoken out frequently what she says is a genocide against Christians in Nigeria.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Goldie Gamari, welcome to Unsensored. What is your response to the foreign minister of Nigeria who says there is no genocide, the numbers of those who've been killed, number of churches attacked has been wildly exaggerated? Well, first of all, Pierce, thank you for having me on. It's a pleasure to be here. You know, Pierce, if it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck, it probably is a duck.
Starting point is 00:16:39 There is a reason that we're seeing these Islamic militants going around and yelling Allaho Akbar. That's not by coincidence. There's a reason that they are attacking Christians on Christmas Eve. Let's not forget that back in 2014, almost 300 Christian schoolgirls were kidnapped by these Islamic militants. 80 of them, their whereabouts are still unknown. Pierce, what's happening in Nigeria is jihad. It's the exact same thing that happened on October 7. by Islamists when they broke into Israel and murdered Jews yelling Allaho Akbar.
Starting point is 00:17:09 It's the exact same thing that ISIS terrorists did to the Yazidis in Iraq. It's the exact same thing that happened in Lebanon. Here's the only difference between what's happening today in Nigeria versus what happened 1,400 years ago when the Muslim Arab invaders came to Persia is that back then people did not have cameras, but today they do. It is 100% jihad. We've seen it before. This is how the Islamist playbook always happens.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Well, I don't think that the foreign minister was denying that things, bad things have been happening. He's just denying that it constitutes a genocide and that the numbers of reported deaths of Christians. Of murders of Christians. I think his government is complicit. Right now you have an Islamist government in Nigeria. One of the things that he didn't mention to you is that typically it's been a constitutional convention in Nigeria that if the prime minister is Muslim, then the, sorry, if the president is Muslim, then the vice president is Christian. If the president is Christian, then the vice president is Muslim.
Starting point is 00:18:09 This is intended to have a proper representation of Nigerian population. Right now, you have a Muslim president, and then they decided to choose a Muslim vice president, and so there's actually no Christian representation in the Islamist government. By the way, this is a government that is working closely behind the scenes with the Islamic Republic of Iran. You should ask the foreign minister, why Nigerian children, why Nigerian schoolchildren are holding pictures of the Ayatollah,
Starting point is 00:18:36 who is a brutal dictator and is murdering my people in Iran. People need to look into the linkages between the current Nigerian government and the Islamic Republic of Iran. I was a politician for seven years, Pierce, and I can tell when someone is lying and avoiding the truth, that's exactly what this foreign minister is doing and shame on him for lying. Foreign minister, your response to that?
Starting point is 00:18:59 With all due respect to the lady, sorry, I forget her name. She has already exposed her ignorance and lack of knowledge about Nigeria, and it's easy for her to sit thousands of miles away and play games with people's lives. These are real lives. I'm not the one playing games with people's lives. 7,000 Christians have been murdered in Nigeria. 7,000 Christians have been murdered in Nigeria.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Who's playing games with people's lives? It's not even know whether Nigeria has a president or a prime minister. You can see how she's waffling, she's stumbling. But this is typical of... I think you're showing your own ignorance. The fact that you're not able to actually counter what I'm saying, and instead you're going after these things that are irrelevant,
Starting point is 00:19:48 that just shows how ignorant you are. Sabre rattling. It's typical, if you can see, she's exposing herself. She doesn't even know the country that she's trying to start a crusade on. and drawing comparisons with Gaza. You know, it's clear what she's trying to do. We have a constitution that has gone read my constitution before you even try to have a discussion with me.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Look up section is 10, 38 and 42 of our constitution. There is federal character enshrined in our constitution. It's part and parcel of it. And the priority is the region where you come from, because we don't identify ourselves as Muslims and Christians in Nigeria. We identify ourselves from regions, geopolitical regions. This is where we come from. But do you accept, all right, foreign minister, let me jump in, let me jump in.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Foreign minister, do you, foreign minister, if I may, if I may, if I may, foreign minister, If I may, if I may, Foreign Minister, do you accept that there is a big problem? You know, we can quibble over precise numbers, but you've already said by your own numbers, over 100 Christian churches have been attacked. You won't commit to how many Christians have been killed. I think you're slightly hiding behind the fact you don't know what all their religion was, but you must know how many people have been killed.
Starting point is 00:21:19 I can give you figures. I can give me figures. You did not ask me. I can give you figures of those that lost their lives. How many Christians have been murdered in Nigeria since 2009? Since 2000, since over the last five years, I can category, category, that 177 have been killed.
Starting point is 00:21:44 And it does not mean that the killing took place. But you said to me earlier, you said to me earlier, you did. Yeah, but hang on, hang on, foreign minister, with respect. With respect. Foreign Minister. Foreign Minister, with respect earlier when I asked you that question, you said you didn't know the number because many of the people who had been killed, you didn't know what religion they were. So which is it?
Starting point is 00:22:13 Yes, so I'm telling you, number killed when churches were attacked. I told you the number of the churches that were attacked. Now, how many Christians, you misunderstood my question? How many? I want to know, I want to know, you, yes, but your foreign minister, you have had, you've had United States senators like Ted Cruz saying publicly that at least 50,000 Christians have been murdered since 2009. If you're saying that number is wildly exaggerated, what is the number? I keep giving you the numbers, but clearly, you know, you are not. You're not. You're giving me the numbers since in the last five years.
Starting point is 00:22:56 accept the number of the court. You can listen to what I'm saying. 102, 177, number injured 98, number abducted seven. Okay? So we are not hiding any facts. But as I said, we don't go about trying to identify a Nigerian faith when they've lost their lives. That is not what Nigeria is. Foreign Minister, do you condemn the attacks and the murder on Christians by Islamist groups in Nigeria?
Starting point is 00:23:38 Absolutely, 100%. I lost my father-in-law to an attack by an Islamic terrorist group, Boko Haram. So I myself, I'm a victim. I've lost family members to attacks. and they were Muslims, but it doesn't matter whether they're Muslim or Christian because their aim is to kill, to maim so that they would achieve their objectives.
Starting point is 00:24:08 And the number one enemy of Boko Haram is not a Christian. It is a Muslim who does not subscribe to their own brand of Islam. Okay, I mean, Goldie Gamari, let me bring you back in there. I mean, there's no doubt that tens of thousands of moderate Muslims have also been murdered by Islamists. We can argue, you know, to the Kowalskham, frankly, about what the exact numbers are. But clearly, a loss of Christian churches have been attacked. So have a lot of mosques where it is believed that the people who are, you know, observing their faith there are too moderate for the Islamists. So it seems like the Islamist groups like Boko Haram, like ISIS, are targeting,
Starting point is 00:24:55 much anybody that they don't agree with, be that moderate Muslims or Christians. Is this not, as the foreign minister is putting forward, a case of it's not just Christians being targeted and persecuted? It's also moderate Muslims. And there's a general, wider problem with Islamist terrorism. Well, there is definitely a problem with Islamist terrorism, but just because Muslims are being murdered, it does not negate the fact that there is a targeted ethnic cleansing of Christian Nigerians. One does not negate the other. What we can conclude from this is that there is definitely an Islamist problem.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Now, one thing that the Nigerian minister is purposely for getting to put out there is that it's not just Boko Haram. It's also the Fulani militants. Not a lot of people know about the Fulani militants. The Fulani Islamists are also the ones who are generally targeting the Christian Nigerians, especially in the plateau belt. And I've had several Nigerian Christians come on and speak about this. In fact, I have seen videos where you have the Fulani militants, you know, on their motorcycles with machetes.
Starting point is 00:26:07 They're driving through various towns. And you have the Nigerian military who's supposed to prevent them from going. They're getting orders to stand down and allow the Fulani militants to go through. Again, you know, Pierce, the loss of life is horrible. But as you can tell from the minister, he's avoiding. questions, he's avoiding eye contact. Instead of actually answering the questions, he's focusing more on trying to attack me and trying to, you know, go after me because I'm not as familiar with the Constitution. I don't need to be familiar with the Constitution of Nigeria to understand
Starting point is 00:26:36 that, you know, 50,000, over 50,000 Christians have been murdered since 2009. I don't have to be familiar with the Constitution of Nigeria to know that when someone yells al-A-A-Haw-Aqvah, before they massacre 200 Christians and burn Christian churches, that's not just banditry. That's jihad. And I think the reason that the foreign minister does not want to admit this is because they are somehow complicit in this. And, you know, he is, he is purposely saying that he is willfully ignorant. Because how could the, how could the Nigerian government not know if those people who have been murdered are Christian or Muslim? The reason that he's avoiding saying that is because if they actually put out formal numbers about the numbers of Christians targeted and murdered, then they
Starting point is 00:27:22 will have to admit that there is a genocide. They don't want to admit that there's a genocide. But that's exactly what's happening, and I'm glad President Trump and others are calling it out. Foreign Minister, finally, your response to that? Well, like I said, the lady and people like her trade in starting wars, in faraway places where they have no contacts, they have no understanding of, and they can do that from their armchairs from a safe distance.
Starting point is 00:27:56 It's a real-life situation. This lady would not know the difference between a Fulani man, a Tivman, an Ibo man, if they stood in front of her. But you can see clearly overnight, because it pays, she's probably making money out of it. Actually, I'm getting zero dollars for this. I'm getting paid zero. I'm getting paid zero for this. I have been speaking out against human rights violations. Listen, Pierce, as you can tell, he's not able to actually answer anything that I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:28:26 As many times as I would repeat the figures, so I think this shows the viewers exactly where the Nigerian government is. She is going to keep on insisting that he has not heard the figures. So that is, that's what she's trying to do. Start a war. They want to break up Nigeria the same way they broke up Sudan and now they've ran away. She's not talking about Sudan anymore. She's not talking about South Sudan.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I actually have talked about Sudan in other episodes as well. For Sudan to be dismembered. This is what they're not. do. This is what they do. What they try to do to Africa, Nigeria is the largest country on the African continent. It is the largest shock absorber to the African continent in terms of admitting migrants, in terms of freedom of religion. It's Africa's largest democracy. But people like you who don't really care about freedoms, about the freedoms of either Christians or Muslims or Africans,
Starting point is 00:29:27 we will continue to agitate for the breakup of Nigeria for war. The same way that it's happening in South Sudan and you've kept mum because you've moved on. The reason that I know, the reason that I know that you are working with the Islamic Republic of Iran is because the Islamic Republic puts out the same narrative
Starting point is 00:29:44 about vulcanization. That vulcanization narrative is something that the Islam is constantly used. That Africans are losing their lives. You, it's just another black country, to be broken up. You don't care who dies. Your hands are the one that's covered in blood, not mine. But we've seen you. Not mine. I'm not denying the Christian genocide, but you are. shame on you. Shame on you. Move on to your next project. Move on to your next, your disgrace, your disgrace to the Canadian nation. I'm shocked that you say that you're,
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Starting point is 00:32:26 Well, joining us now is Reverend Zeke Dachem. Many, many people saw his passionate speech beside a shallow grave, some of the victims of this persecution, including President Donald Trump. Welcome to you, Reverend. It's good to talk to you. Your words clearly had an impact on President Trump.
Starting point is 00:32:43 What do you believe is the reality about the situation in Nigeria with regard to the persecution of Christians? the war of Trump towards Nigeria is but marvelous, as is comparable to what the Bible says, as Israel was under persecution in Egypt. When there comes another pharaoh that did not know Joseph, the Israelis went into deep crisis,
Starting point is 00:33:23 their level was double. It was double. To the stage, God allowed this thing to happen to the state that they have to cry. When they cry out, Exodus chapter 3, verse 7 came up. God decided to say, it is time. Let us go down.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I've had the cry of my people. and let us show consigned. Depends on different interpretation of the Bible. But one version says, let us show consign. I have consigned for my people in Egypt. I've had their cry. Let me go down and deliver them from the Egyptian, from slavery. It is same thing with us in Nigeria.
Starting point is 00:34:19 All Nigerian Christians have been in bondage right from 2021. In fact, it is a stage that the Islamic terrorists have fought that Christians should never lead them. Twenty-two-one, there was organized massacre that caught across every place in the nation, Nigeria. But the media here are downplaying things for themselves. And this is where we are in trouble. I have performed several genocide burial more than 70 times. Imagine some of the grave are 501. People killed in one night in Dogonahua village named Jambru.
Starting point is 00:35:25 The Nigerian government daisle that one because the Islamic are controlling the government. So the Nigerian government, if I may just jump in there, the Nigerian government has vehemently denied there was a genocide of Christians in Nigeria. Further, they say a lot of Muslims have also been killed by the likes of Boko Haram for being too moderate, and that therefore the issue of Islamist. killing people is not restricted just to Christians, but also to moderate Muslims. What do you say to that? So let me give you the background of what happened.
Starting point is 00:36:07 This is the program with initial facts finding. They created so by many that are in high writing of the government to remove good luck who is a Christian. This is what happened. They stayed their privilege. way they were relocated and their target is to kill the Christian because Good Lord is a Christian. That's why Jesus, that's why Good Lord says my blood is not worthy for other people to die. He voluntarily and submit an accept result even before it was finished counting. He knows the danger. Had it been good luck,
Starting point is 00:37:17 announce the true result of the election, many Christians in the North will go into the grave. Because it was really declared a jihad. In Borno, they will enter a village on Sunday. They will meet people in the church and they will lock the church building with Christian inside. That is far outside, they will order him to go in. They locked the church. They put Gatlin. They set the church building a blast.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Christian, they were inside, including the pastor, the elders, and everybody were born to death. This is a report that they will never tell. They moved to other villages. They will find people in the church. They will bring them out and separate men and women. They will assembly them for slaughtering. they will slaughter all of them, including all the youths and everybody. And they will select the female for themselves
Starting point is 00:38:52 and divided among themselves. Sexual harassment will take place. Reverend Dashmore, if I could ask you, if I could ask you, what is your message to Donald Trump? Because he was very moved by your words. What is your message to him? My message to Donatros never stop what he's doing, because what he's doing is not his own. So he's consigned to Nigerian Christian, Italians with Exodus chapter 3, verse 7,
Starting point is 00:39:26 as God show consigned to Egypt, to Israel in Egypt, the Hebrews. So he has to show consigned to us. Let me tell me there's a genocide in Nigeria. And when it comes, it's not going to be at us alone. It's going to help the Muslims. When the Christian in the far north were able to escape to the middle back, what would they left? You hear them saying Muslims are also killed?
Starting point is 00:39:57 By who? By Muslims. Because of set differences. Some were trained in Saudi Arabia. Some were trained in Afghanistan. Some were trained in Iran. All of them have different background of belief. They brought it into Nigeria. After there was no Christian in the prosby to kill,
Starting point is 00:40:21 the blood of innocent Christian that have been fighting them. Then they went into fighting each other. The sect of Isala fighting the Sunni, fighting the Derica. That's why they will meet them in the... in the mosque and killed them, chanting Allah or Qabharah, because of different beliefs in Islam.
Starting point is 00:40:55 And this thing has not been common. It has been happening right from the time of Muhammad. Jaya, at the point it would end of seeing same people of same faith killing each other. Like today, the Issa and the Boko Haram were busy killing each other. at Lechart, it's not a news anymore. Well, it's clearly a very... It's clearly a serious situation,
Starting point is 00:41:30 and it's definitely worthy of more global attention. So, Reverend, thank you very much indeed for joining me. I appreciate it. Thank you. Peers Morgan Unsensort is proudly independent. The only boss around here is me. If you enjoy our show, we ask only one simple thing. Hit subscribe on YouTube and follow Pierce Morgan Unsensored
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