Piers Morgan Uncensored - “Should Be Charlie Kirk!” Time Person Of the Year, Strongwoman Controversy & Best Comedies Ever

Episode Date: November 28, 2025

To make a change from arguing about politics this Thanksgiving week, Piers Morgan delves into some slightly less contentious issues, including Variety’s 100 Best Comedies of All Time and Time’s Pe...rson of The Year.Also; The World’s Strongest Woman contest is won by… a man. Should we have a problem with that or are we all just bigots? Plus, has Wicked lifted Hollywood’s box office curse? And more importantly, could its stars be the first ‘non demi curious semi binary’ couple ever to win an Oscar?Joining Piers we have movie buffs Nerdrotic and The Critical Drinker, Keeping It Real host Jillian Michaels, cultural commentator and comedy-hater Dr. Anastasia Gabriel and comedy writer Graham Linehan.Piers Morgan Uncensored is proudly independent and supported by: Pendragon Cycle (Daily Wire+): Discover The Pendragon Cycle: Rise of The Merlin—a bold retelling of the King Arthur legend where Merlin’s vision sparks a civilization’s rebirth; watch the full trailer now at https://DailyWire.com.Oxford Natural: To watch their full stories, scan the QR code on your screen or visit https://oxfordnatural.com/piers/ to get 70% off your first order when you use code PIERS.Juvenon: Take care of your heart – Visit https://bloodflow7.com/Uncensored and Get 30% OFF your BloodFlow-7 order today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Okay, let's lighten the load. Variety Magazine's best comedies of all time. Who is funnier, American comedy or British comedy? Oh, British comedy. 100%. Oh, God, these are fighting. We're Chubby Chase, Jim Carrey, John Belushi? I'm really incensed that the Cornetto trilogy wasn't there.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Like, we could have had Sean of the Dead. We could have had Hot Fuzz. We could have had the World's End. I would disagree with that. Trust me, Anastasia. Even you would crack a smile. Tropic Thunder is possibly the last balls out comedy to have been made. Dr. Anastasia, what's your favourite comedy?
Starting point is 00:00:34 Not my genre of choice. You don't find things fine? Well, last time, you've told me I'm not fun at parties, so I'm really matching my brain. Well, you just prove the point if you can't think of a single comedy movie you like. What I mean about the Wokemigate? Where's the laughter? Where's the fun? I'm having fun here, Fierers. This has been really a pleasure.
Starting point is 00:00:50 If you've been arguing about politics at the Thanksgiving dinner table this week, I have excellent news for this show. We're going to argue about everything other than politics. Has wicked lifted Hollywood's box office curse? And more importantly, could his stars be the first non-demi-curious, semi-binary couple ever to win an Oscar? Time magazine prepares to name its person of a year who should win. The world's strongest woman contest is won by a man.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Should we have a problem with that, or are we all just bigots? And does Varieties list of the 100 Best Comedies of All Time prove that woke really is dead, as my new book is titled? Joining me to discuss all that and more, Will Jordan, best known as YouTube's leading movie critic, the critical drinker, Gary Nordrodrick Bucler, who's the host of Friday Night Tights, Gillian Michael's host of Keeping It Real, and Dr Anastasia Gabriel, who's the cultural commentator.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Plus, a man has been in the headlines for a legal victory this week. The comedy writer Graham Ninnehan is with me in the studio two. Welcome back to you, Graham, to Uncensored. So welcome to all of you. But we'll start with something which will definitely be, I'm sure, something Graham will have a view about. This is the most extraordinary story of our... time really in the way that it perfectly personified, I think, one of the big problems with the
Starting point is 00:02:02 woke sort of scourge on our societies, I would put in. A transgender athlete called Jami Booker won the world's strongest woman title several days ago and celebrated. A big picture, celebrating on the podium. And then there was an interesting exchange with the camera and the woman who came second, who was really pissed off about this and stomped off, and it looked rather graceless. Right to the point, it emerged that Jammie Booker is a biological male, is a man. And that was why Jammie Booker looked so much bigger than the female contestants, and why Jammie Booker won the title of the world's strongest woman. But Gillian Michaels, right here in this story, once it emerged,
Starting point is 00:02:55 that Jamie Booker was male, the organizers stripped Jamie Booker of the title and said they weren't aware that Jamie Booker identified as a trans athlete at all. They thought that she was a woman. What do you make of this? I mean, it seemed to me the fight back, this is why I say woke is dead,
Starting point is 00:03:17 that the public reaction was so quick and so ferocious and the official reaction was so quick to correct this, that this is why I believe wokeism is actually dead. Not everyone's got the memo yet, but the public tolerance of it is disintegrating. Listen, I'm glad to see that Jammie was stripped of the title
Starting point is 00:03:42 and it was given to a biological female because I think fairness in sports is essential. It is the pillar of sports along with safety and then inclusion, and often in many of the world, these different categories. There are mixed categories for people like Jammy. Now, having said that, I completely disagree with you about woke being dead peers. I'm seeing craziness abound everywhere. And in fact, I think it was in the Carolinas regarding power lifting. The Supreme Court just
Starting point is 00:04:13 penalized the United States Powerlifting Association for not allowing biological males into sport with biological females despite having a mixed category. So, I think, I think every step in the right direction is great here, but I don't think we're there yet at all. Okay. Dr. Anastasia, Gabri, what do you make of this? Well, I would push back on the idea that woke is dead, and everything is about perspective. What does actually woke mean to you? For some, it might need craziness, as a panelist said. For some, that might mean being more aware, more inclusive and more progressive and how we
Starting point is 00:04:48 understand people who hold all kinds of differences. So to me, I'm not familiar with that particular case. so I will not comment on the decision. But what worries me the most is the kind of abuse and harassment that oftentimes emerges in these moments that actually affects people and populations beyond that one particular winner and the kind of rhetoric that we our society are normalizing. Yeah, but the problem, it seems to me,
Starting point is 00:05:14 is when a society endorses often legally this kind of thing, you are going to piss off a lot of people. And the victims actually tend to be trans people want to just get on with their lives quietly, not bother anyone, you know, may have gone through years of surgery in some cases, right? I've got full respect for those people. But when you, as a society,
Starting point is 00:05:36 when you say it's perfectly normal for biological men to compete against women, I say society loses its mind. And so people, when they see this, go, this is obviously unfair. Shouldn't be happening. Well, I would respectfully challenge you on the idea of normal.
Starting point is 00:05:51 This is an incident that has happened out of how many other victories where that has not been the case. Why should it happen at all, though? If it was doping, it was doping, we wouldn't allow anything. We live in society where all sorts of things happen. And to me, this is an opportunity to discuss these issues, to talk about what's normal.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Okay, would you have gender-neutral Olympics? I'm not sure that I would even subscribe to that position. You're not sure? Let me finish, please. Would you allow men or women? would you allow men and women to compete in one gender-neutral category at the Olympics in all the different sports? Piers, it's lovely to be back. I would love to be able to finish my sentence. Sure.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I would not necessarily argue for that position myself. Why not? However, because I do think that they are different athletic abilities. Ah, bingo! Bingo! So you know it's unfair. That's my point. So you wouldn't allow it because you know that men have a physical ability. I cannot articulate my position in a rational manner.
Starting point is 00:06:54 You just answered the previous sentence. No, you're cutting me off. Do not allow me to make my point. And if that's how it's going to be, I'll give the mic back to you. Is there more to your point than you realize it's wrong to put the sexes together? I am saying that society changes and notions like right or wrong are dependent on your perspective. Not really. Not really.
Starting point is 00:07:19 They're dependent on things called biology and science. this case. Well, there are myriads of very well-established scholars, activists, professionals who might disagree with you. So who are you to say that they're completely wrong? That's a part of the debate. The thing is, Anastasia, even you don't, even, even, even, even, even, even, even you don't disagree with me. You just said you, you think it's right that the sexes are kept apart in the Olympics. I did not say, please do not put in words in my mouth. I said that it's a nuanced issue. And I think there is a conversation that are great areas. Okay, let me ask you one more time.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Let me ask you one more time. Okay. Why do we separate the sexes in the Olympics? At this point, I will not entertain your provocations. Got it. No problem at all. Thank you. Can I answer it?
Starting point is 00:08:07 Because there's a robust amount of data outside of what is observationally obvious, that men have superior athleticism across every single modality of fitness. And the reality is that when you mess around with, fundamental truths like X, Y chromosome and X, X, X, X, chromosome, it is crippling to a society because we cannot solve problems when we can't agree on what's real and what isn't. It's okay to. Well, Sunsacial individuals. And I'm afraid you can't, you can't refuse to comment on this anymore.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Donsexual individuals have existed from history. That is science as well. That's not how this was. Graham, welcome back to Unsensitive. You got cleared yesterday. harassing a teenage trans activist, Sophie Brooks, on social media. You were convicted of damaging her phone. This came after she accused you.
Starting point is 00:09:01 She was 17 at the time. Apparently, you called her a sociopath, a psycho, domestic terrorist, and Groomer on X. The judge said your social media post did not amount to harassment. First of all, how do you feel about what went down in the verdict there? You know, very good. I've been targeted by this group of men, most recently. recently, including Sophie, for about 10 years now. So it's nice to draw more attention to them.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I'm hoping that finally the police will start investigating these men who have been harassing, not just me, but dozens of women across the country, getting them arrested, suing them. These are basically a criminal gang and the UK police, for some reason, are working for them. And, you know, the police have gone from being terrified, have been concerned, have been called institutionally racist to being institutionally misogynist, you know. And it's annoying that I had to go through all this, but I'm glad it's bringing more attention to...
Starting point is 00:10:03 You've been having a lot of wins, actually, in the last few months. It seems like common sense is beginning to prevail. I mean, the one thing that people say about you, which I think, I can understand why they feel it, it's not the campaign you've waged or the logic of your... your argument, it's sometimes the rhetoric you've used. When you look back over the last few years, notwithstanding the fact you yourself have been on the receiving end
Starting point is 00:10:28 of vicious, horrible rhetoric. But if you had your time again, would you tone down the rhetoric? Every so often, there's a piece of cinematic entertainment that just feels bigger and bigger. Not another Hollywood reboot, but an epic story of courage, faith, and meaning. The Daily Wire has gone all out with this new seven-part series, The Pendragon cycle, Rise of the Merlin. It's based on a book series by Stephen R. Lawhead, and it's a retelling of the classic King Arthur legend.
Starting point is 00:10:55 The first official trailer just dropped, you should go and check it out. In this extraordinary world, pagan gods fall silent and empires collapse. But one man's vision ignites the civilisation's rebirth. Merlin becomes a bridge between myth and history, shaping the destiny of kings. What's not to like? The Pendragon cycle, Rise of the Merlin, premieres exclusively on Daily Wire Plus on January the 22nd. Watch the full trailer now at Dailywire.com. Well, the thing about the rhetoric is it has to be understood in the light of the fact that, as I say, I've been targeted by these men for 10 years, for a decade.
Starting point is 00:11:34 I lost my father Ted musical because my colleagues wouldn't stand up for me in the face of this harassment. And I lost my marriage, as people know, because I lost my ability to make an ink. so our family was put under pressure. So if ever I'm rude or angry or express myself forcefully, it's simply because I'm just disgusted by my colleagues who have watched me go through all this without a word of support. Art Lo Hanlon recently threw me under the bus. He's never once called me to ask how I was doing.
Starting point is 00:12:10 He's never once called to say he supports my campaigns against men and women's sports, against men and women's prisons, I, yes, if I do express myself forcefully, it's simply because I'm very frustrated at the fact that people can't see what's evident. When you hear a debate like this, when we start off with, you know, the world's strongest woman title being won by a biological male,
Starting point is 00:12:36 there right there is one of the problems, right? Is that people, to see to hear women, including someone on this panel, kind of defending this kind of stuff, I just find it completely baffling. And also, you know, They always say things like, this is a unique occurrence. It's been happening again, this has been happening for about 10 years.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Laurel Hubbard, the weightlifter in New Zealand weightlifter, 45 years old, nearly twice the age of any other contestant. Very unsuccessful as a male weightlifter, certainly an Olympian contestant. And beat two indigenous women. He now holds the women's record for weightlifting in New Zealand. It's ridiculous. It's insane. Okay, let's lighten the load. Let's turn to variety magazines, best comedy.
Starting point is 00:13:18 of all time. So at number three, Annie Hall, ironic, given that Woody Allen's been pretty well the victim of a cancellation attempt as well. Some like it hot. A film about the ridiculous idea of men pretending to be women. Irony is not dead here. And number one, naked gun, starring Leslie Nilsson,
Starting point is 00:13:41 one of the most notoriously un-PC comedies featuring the infamous Nice Beaver line. So again, further evidence, Jillian that woke is dead because naked gun would never have been number one on this before. I've got to say, my favourite, Nedroddy, let's start with you here. A, what do you think of the top three? I'm absolutely incensed about two things. One, the Anchorman is not in the top three, which to me is not only the greatest anti-woke
Starting point is 00:14:09 movie ever made, but also howlingly funny. And secondly, the campaign with Will Farrell isn't further up the list. is apparently, I think, way down, actually. I didn't even make the top 100. It's the biggest grossing political comedy ever made, and I know that because I'm in it. So I feel I've been robbed. But, Nadrotti, first of all, the top three,
Starting point is 00:14:32 Annie Hall, some like your heart, make a gun. Good choices. Would you have had another one at number one? Absolutely. I would have had a lot more at number one. Anything Monty Python, holy grail, I would have put up there, airplane. I love naked gun, but it's a compilation of the TV show. It's kind of a really odd
Starting point is 00:14:51 choice. And they use the word influential on this. But any list that doesn't have, I've got 30, I could read off here that doesn't have Tropic Thunder, Blues Brothers, Animal House, any Pink Panther movie, Uncle Buck, Ferris Bueller, it's a mad, mad, mad, mad, mad, mad, world, vacation, American pie, Beverly Hills Cop 1 and 2, 48 hours. Is Beverly Hills and cop not in the list? No, go, no Ghostbusters. Oh, that's completely our outrageous. Beverly Hills got one of the greats. Yeah, but Tropic Thunder being off the list is absolutely ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:15:22 And I would put that easily in the top three. What should be the, what's the funniest comedy ever made? In my opinion, I would have to say Blazing Saddles. I'd love Blazing Saddles. Number 77, completely outrageous. Critical Drinker. What do you make of this list? It's obviously in Century already.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Yeah, I mean, look, it's always going to be contentious. Like, what is the greatest comedy of all time? how do you even begin to pick them out? But yeah, I'm not sure I would put naked gun right at the top there. I'm really incensed that the Cornetto trilogy wasn't there. Like, we could have had Sean of the Dead. We could have had Hot Fuzz. We could have had the world's end.
Starting point is 00:15:59 They should be way up in the rankings. Where's Life of Brian in that top 10? Yeah. So the top line didn't make the top 100. I mean, that's absolutely, that's actually an offense. Well, we got to grant, isn't it? You made one of the great comedies. Is 5 of 10 on my list?
Starting point is 00:16:17 Well, it's not a film. Does it not have any TV shows, isn't it? It's all movies. All right. So, Graham, for you, A, the three, they've chosen for the top three. But what would you have, I don't know. I mean, my tastes are very esoteric.
Starting point is 00:16:31 One of my favorite comedies of all time is The Heartbreak Kid with Charles Groden. I've watched that, like, a thousand times. I think it's a perfectly constructed comedy movie. That's in there, apparently. Oh, is it? Oh, good, good. It deserves to be.
Starting point is 00:16:44 And I slightly disagree with Nehrederick on the naked gun. I just think the naked gun films were even an improvement on the airplane films, in that they, they, they, just this simple thing of Leslie Nielsen's straight face throughout this utter insanity, I think is one of those comedy secrets they discovered that has hardly been beaten since then. Getting all these, and again, in the naked gun series, the police squad series, He's getting all these actors who were used to being in the type of TV shows they were parodying. It was beautiful.
Starting point is 00:17:20 It's the funniest comedy, Graham, offensive. I mean, a lot of Catholics got upset with Father Ted, for example. But a lot of my favorite comedies are pretty near the knuckle. You have to walk a line. And, as people have been pointing out, the problem with the last decade, again, is that we haven't been allowed to walk the line. Comedians have to be able to take risks and to tell jokes that don't work. and be offensive and all these things. But we've had a very nervous sort of executive class
Starting point is 00:17:50 that the critical drinker in Novodic have been covering brilliantly on their YouTube. And it just seems to me that it, like, I think people might agree with me that Tropic Thunder is not only a great film, but possibly the last balls out comedy to have been made, you know? Absolutely. Yeah. Yes, 100%.
Starting point is 00:18:11 It's such a shame. It's such a shame that we've had 10 years where it's been kind of like a desert, you know. Well, let me ask Dr. Anastasia, we're on a lighter subject here. What's your favorite comedy movie? Not my genre of choice, so I'm learning a lot. You surprised me. You don't find things fun. Well, last time, Pierce, you told me I'm not fun at Farty, so I'm really matching my brand.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Well, you just prove the point. If you can't think of a single comedy movie you like, is it all the most behind me? Anastasia, it's what I mean about the Woke Brigade. You don't like that. You're joyless people. Where's the laughter? Where's the fun? I'm having fun here, Pierce.
Starting point is 00:18:49 This has been truly a pleasure. You don't find any comedy movies funny? It's not my genre of choice. You never watch comedy? I mean, occasionally, but I can't tell you off the top of my head my favorites. You can't think of a single comedy movie you've ever enjoyed?
Starting point is 00:19:06 No, Pierce. Wow. You see, I need to re- I'm shocking you today. This is part of the problem me wokeism. It's humorless. Oh, gosh. Let's move on, Fiers. Today's show is sponsored by Oxford Natural,
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Starting point is 00:20:10 I'm checking out. Thank you. The thunder has already been. stolen quite literally with the suggestion of Tropic of Thunder. But I'm going to say, Fish Called Wanda, something about Mary, and then I'm going to go to when Harry and Sally. Great film. Oh, so good, guys.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Come on. And then Harry Met Sally. When Harry Met Sally? None of those are in the top 100. How can you not have when Harry met Sally? Oh, no, surely when Harry was in there, surely. It must be in there, surely. Greatest comedic movie about relationships ever made.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Wow. Is it not? in their team seriously it's not 29 29 is in oh is it i missed that one is in not be in the top of it's called one is in there as well i don't think something about mary's on the list unbelievable no that's not in there yeah who is who is funnier nodotti american comedy or british comedy oh british comedy yeah 100 percent i grew up on it uh watching pb s here in america faulty towers yeah monny python uh reading Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:21:15 It's different. Well, you're educated over there. Your schools are pretty good. So it's not anymore, buddy. Well, when I grew up 100 years ago. But yeah, I grew up on British comedy. I think it's superior. It's smarter.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Oh, God, these are fighting. Chubby Chase, Jim Carrey, John Belushi. I think it might be a case of grass is greener, you know, because I've always. I always loved American comedy and really admire, you know, the spirit of American comedy. Recent shows, like, I think you should leave, you know, it's just a style of comedy we don't see over here. Yeah, it's nice. See, I would argue the funniest movie comedian of them all is Will Farrell.
Starting point is 00:22:07 I would say that. I think his body of work is the funniest collection of films. If I could die. He's been going through a bit of a dry spell over the past 50 years, though. Like, it's been quite a while since one barrel of a head. But it needs to work with me again.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Because campaign was a massive success. That was a real thing. Let's turn to Wicked. Obviously, a massive box office success. $200 million taking its open weekend. A lot of pushback from the old fans of the original Wizard of Oz. They say the new version
Starting point is 00:22:37 tramples on the classic law and basically ruins it. The new twists in the movie include The Magical Land of Oz is now a tyrannical patriarchy, of course, led by a drug adult animal-abusing wizard who's also the deadbeat dad of the wiki witch of the West, who is now a misunderstood hero of the story.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Innocent sweet Dorothy is now the baddie of the film. The scarecrow is now the boyfriend of the wiki witch, despite the fact that the original Wizard of Oz tries to set him on fire multiple times. The Tin Man is a psychopathic rage machine intent on murder. Glinda the Good is a fraudulent witch who has no actual powers. There's an underground railroad under the elaborate road for enslaved animals. And this might be the worst of all. The munchkins are normal sized.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Noddy. Does it matter? It's obviously a big success. The younger crowd are flocking to it. They're obviously a little bit more touchy-feely about these things. They'd love to see a bit of patriarchy bashing. Does it matter if you rewrite the classics for a modern vibe? I think you've got to base it on an... It's based on individuality, I would say, but I think it's a tired trope that's been going on for years. This is essentially fan fiction.
Starting point is 00:23:57 If you go back to Watchman, it's about subverting expectations. And Wicked is easily, which I've seen the play too, is patient zero for a lot of what we've seen going on in modern entertainment, Star Wars and Star Trek. But I think Wicked, the story's so old, and
Starting point is 00:24:15 I think it's okay to make a movie, here we go, because men and women are different. So Wicked is a movie for gay men and women, and it's certainly like Barbie was. And you can make those. Just stop making Star Wars wicked or
Starting point is 00:24:31 Marvel Wicked. That's always been my contention, but it always has this place, as long as you recognize, like there's his dark materials. There's people who hate traditional storytelling that will go out write their own story to usurp it and destroy it. But as far as wicked is concerned, it's been around for so long. For me, it doesn't matter personally. But as long as we recognize, like, this is what spawned an era that we're in now, an era that I'm sure we'll get to, where with the box office in Hollywood falling apart
Starting point is 00:25:04 because it's got an identity crisis and it really doesn't know what to do right now. Yeah, I think I think that's right. I mean, Crickle Drinker, there's this strange chemistry between Sincerevo and Ariana Grande on their press junkies. Led to speculation the two are in a non-demi-curious semi-binary relationship. I've absolutely no idea what any of that meant.
Starting point is 00:25:27 But let's take a look at a mash-up of their press conferences. Not the time, helicopter. It's a pleasure spending time with you. It's a good of pleasure getting to know you, and I hope you will be there by a response. I hope you'll let my French be one of the things that you're raining out of the lead in. That joy he wanted to be that was in every friend. Critical drink here, I think I could safely say I'm probably the only member of this panel
Starting point is 00:26:01 who has had Ariana Grande weep into his arms, which was in a restaurant in Beverly Hills during a four-hour drinking session we had together a few years ago. I can't go into any more details, but it was a special night. for both of us. Oh, please do. And she did end up weeping it, weeping into my arms. So I kind of feel in the finity with Cynthia Areva and a little bit jealous that she's supplanted me. Is this all, is this real, do you think? Or is it just a little scamboli they've pulled on people where it's just incredibly entertaining? Oh, man, it's Hollywood. I mean, it's not real life. And these are not real human beings
Starting point is 00:26:37 in the normal sense. Like, they do not face the challenges that regular humans do. And I don't know, man. It got me wondering, like, what on earth happened to these two women in the course of making this movie? They look like Vietnam veterans or something. They have been through horrific stuff. When you're being given PTSD from a helicopter and have to be basically protected, something terrible has happened. Well, I don't know what it is. And it's like, they were in the most like puff piece musical, like the most upbeat fun thing you could get involved in. And man, it is destroyed both of them mentally and physically. I just hope to find a after wellness again.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Well, let me ask Dr. Anastasia, this might be more in your wheelhouse than comedy. Perhaps. Can you explain to any of us what a non-Demecurious, semi-binary relationship is? Unfortunately, I cannot, because I think you just made that up. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:27:29 That's a genuine thing. Okay, okay. Well, I did want to respond to another panelist, you know, around this idea, whether these are real humans, real human beings. I think that's what he said. And I really think that's not necessarily true. You know, what we're seeing might be a genuine interaction.
Starting point is 00:27:46 And it's precisely because we don't see these women as real human beings that they've been receiving just loads of abuse and harassment and mockery online. And so I think we can talk about it how it's making us uncomfortable in some way, the way they're acting, the vulnerability on display. But to say that they're not real human beings, I think might risk being harmful in the way that we see. I don't mean that they're like robots or like lizard people or anything. I just mean that they're not normal human beings. I mean, they're highly successful. They're very affluent. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:28:20 But I've just been sadden to see the kind of response where that kind of crosses the line of mockery. And I'm quite a just in the question of why do we find it strange? I think if you're weeping about the noise of a helicopter, you're probably entitled to a bit of mockery. Sometimes these mockery is okay. Yeah, it's kind of very mockable. I would disagree with that. Well, if the helicopter fell over this. I'm going to go, ooh, ho, ho.
Starting point is 00:28:41 I'm about a helicopter. Trust me, Anastasia. Even you would crack a smile. Gillian, what are we making these two? It is a fascinating thing to watch them, but are we overthinking it? Is it just Hollywood being Holly weird? December is Heart Awareness Month,
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Starting point is 00:29:51 slash uncensored and get 30% off your blood flow 7 order today. I think there's a little more to this. My 15-year-old gave me a full lecture in anticipation of our conversation this morning. And she did point out that both of these women have been through quite a lot, that Ariana Grande was a Dan Schneider Nickelodeon kid, and that Cynthia Revo has been abandoned by her father.
Starting point is 00:30:17 And I think what we're seeing, even though this is the doctor's job to probably elaborate on this, but I think what we're seeing is a unique form of trauma bonding. I really do. And it is making us uncomfortable. But it's not harming anyone. But I do think that's what's going on here. If I had to guess at it, I don't think it's performative.
Starting point is 00:30:37 No, okay. Well, let's go on to time person of a year. Quite interesting, because it's not given to the most popular beloved person of a year. It's just given to the most significant figure of a year. It's been going on for pretty well 100 years. In 1927, the first person of a year was the aviator Charles Lindberg. In 38, it was Hitler. In 63, Martin Luther King.
Starting point is 00:31:03 In 2017, the Me Too movement. So sometimes the trend will win. or a group of people, an entity. And in 2024, Donald Trump was Times person of a year after his re-election. So we looked at the prediction markets. Polymarket says AI is favorite, with 36% of the favorite vote. Jensen Huang, the invidia CEO, 24%. Pope, the first American Pope, obviously, 15%.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Donald Trump, 7%. Zoramandani at 3%. And Charlie Kirk at 2%. I mean, who do you think? I'm surprised you're not on that list, actually, but who do you think is Times, personal view, or who should it be? I think it should be Charlie Kirk. I think Charlie Kirk paid the ultimate price for, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:56 using his freedom of speech, trusting his audiences, and trying to hear people out and express a version of Christianity that seems to me extremely. noble and good. And all the things that were thrown at him after his death turned out not to be true. I think he was a wonderful man and he died because he trusted people too much.
Starting point is 00:32:22 No, Joddy, what do you think? I have to agree with Graham. I think it's slam dunk. It should be Charlie Kirk. It shifted the culture this year. We saw the reaction to his death where many of us lost friendship. over what we saw people celebrating a man's death.
Starting point is 00:32:42 And it really show, you know, as far as just influence and impact while he was alive and after his assassination, we've seen things kind of fall apart. And within both the rights and culturally. And I think that's impactful enough. And it's just sad that we had to lose him to see like how ugly things are right now. So it has to be Charlie Kirk. Critical drinker? Can I offer a counterpoint to this?
Starting point is 00:33:12 I'm going to suggest Sidney Sweeney, who's single-handedly defeating wokeism in Hollywood just by being really attractive and laid back. Great shout. The only problem is she's dating Scooter Braun, who's utterly revolting. Other than that, she's been great. We'll get that dealt with, don't worry.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Gillian, who's your time person of a year? I'm 100% with the guy, with Charlie Kirk. We have one gentleman, obviously, critical drinker who wants Sydney. I agree completely. It should be Charlie Kirk. And I think that we've seen just how valuable he was now that he's gone, which is absolutely heartbreaking. One thing I do want to point out about AI, though, is that this alarms me, to be honest, because these institutions are, again, making things that are factual fluid, like personhood. If we go back to redefining what it means to be a woman,
Starting point is 00:34:05 are we now redefining what it means to be a person? So that alarms me. I think that should absolutely not happen. And I'm all for Charlie Kirk being person of the year. Okay. Dr. Anastasia, who would your suggestion be? Well, my suggestion does not revolve around my feelings or who I think should be celebrated.
Starting point is 00:34:26 It's really about the criteria that has been used. And it is essentially a distinction, a way to mention somebody or something that has the most immense impact. on society, economic, et cetera, for better or for worse. So I do think selecting AI is actually a sound idea, primarily because even though time selection is titled person of the year, it has never been just person of the year. Pierce, you mentioned the MeToo movement, some other examples. And so when we think about it, I mean, AI has been revolutionary.
Starting point is 00:34:57 It has affected, there's no sector that hasn't been affected, whether that's health or employment, our daily lives. So I think it would be a great opportunity to have a conversation about what this year has brought in terms of innovation. And that's the suggestion I would go with. Okay. I would personally say Trump should get it again. Because honestly, if you look at the year, the amount of news that basically is dominated by one individual is quite extraordinary. So I don't disagree with the Charlie Kirk suggestion. I think he's a very laudable candidate for this.
Starting point is 00:35:31 what happened to him was just unspeakable and to be killed for your speech just repulses me but I do think Trump has such an overpairingly dominant impact, good, bad and ugly on pretty much everything that I find him irresistible
Starting point is 00:35:46 as a winner this year but we shall see, we'll know quite soon polymarket are usually right so maybe it will be AI I'm going to end with a little note about Thanksgiving I want to ask well I'll ask you actually you first of all, nodrotti. Do you know how it started?
Starting point is 00:36:04 Yeah. You guys came over and conquered the United States and you had a little lunch with the people you were about to conquer and then we made a holiday out of it. So the word you're looking for is Nedronic? The word you're looking for to wee people in England is Nordric. I know you can hear me.
Starting point is 00:36:32 The word he is obviously looking for is thank you, England, because without us, you wouldn't have a Thanksgiving day. So when you're all guzzling your turkeys this week and all the other random things you do way before when you should do it on Christmas Day, just remember, without us, without those settlers, the pilgrims, back in 1621, scoffing their grub to celebrate basically creating America, there would be no Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Gillian, do you feel grateful or not? I feel very grateful. And the one thing I would point out, and I do appreciate Nodrolux position, but this was a moment of unity. This is when the Native Americans and the pilgrims came together. This is a holiday that was created by Abraham Lincoln, I believe, in 1863, to bring us together. So for me personally, I think we should celebrate coming together as a nation, as well as our family, our friends, and everything beautiful about our globe right now. We should be positive in these moments. Well, I am thankful to America
Starting point is 00:37:37 because you've given me a great time for the last 20 years. I should push back on that, Pierce, if I may. I do think it's important to have a conversation about the way Thanksgiving is a kind of American mythology that has oftentimes used this idea of unity to actually overlook some of the uglier sides of our history. And for that reason, many places in the United States are adopting ways to celebrate indigenous cultures.
Starting point is 00:37:59 When we think about that mythology of Thanksgiving and coming together, I don't think it's actually rooted in the reality of U.S. history that has been marked by the genocide of indigenous people. So I wanted to offer that nuance there. Well, it's not a mythology. It actually did happen. And you can absolutely celebrate indigenous people simultaneously. These two things are not mutually exclusive. I'm not entirely sure.
Starting point is 00:38:21 I mean, just to be clear, I don't think, I think along with not finding anything funny, Dr. Anastasia probably doesn't celebrate anything. I do not celebrate Thanksgiving for us. Because everything is terrible. Comedy is terrible. Thanksgiving is terrible. Turkey's are terrible. The English are terrible. Everything is absolutely terrible. Well, Graham, you've moved to America.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Yes. Do you feel thankful that America has taken you in? Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm hoping to be useful enough to the Americans that they want me to stay because I certainly don't. want anything to do with the UK anymore. But yeah, I love it over there and I can't wait to get back, you know. Yeah, I do. I was about to say before I was so rudely interrupted by Dr. Anastasia, so I'm surprised. Well, you've done it to me, peers, every single time I've spoken. But I do think it's a fantastic country and extremely welcoming, actually, to people from anywhere.
Starting point is 00:39:17 And I've loved America, love Americans, love the way they celebrate Thanksgiving, will ignore Dr. Anastasia's attempt to ruin it as the habitual party pooper in these panels. It's Dr. Anastasia. Anastasia. Thank you. And correcting my pronunciation as well. It's always a pleasure to have you. You've got to bring the moon down.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Someone has to do it. My humble apologies to you. And the Droughton I hear that you actually weren't pretending not to hear me. You couldn't hear me. No, I could not hear you. I'm sorry. The time thing was flawless. Well, it was more comedic to think you were deliberately ignoring the opportunity to thank
Starting point is 00:39:53 than it was if you'd actually heard me. So we're just going to leave it as it was. Panel, you've been great. Happy Thanksgiving, and thank you to everyone for joining me. I appreciate it. Thanks. Cheers, Pierce. Pierce Morgan Unsensit is proudly independent.
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