Piers Morgan Uncensored - Will Trump Run For a Third Term? With Jesse Dollemore & Jillian Michaels

Episode Date: March 31, 2025

President Donald Trump has only recently completed his first 100 days back in the White House - and already speculation is rife that he will find a way to stay in power for a third term. He's been busy unleashing a new wave of tariffs and negotiating hard with both Zelensky and Putin - and despite having enough on his plate in 2025, it hasn't stopped the President from acknowledging that people would like to see him run again in 2028... especially if the best the Democrats can offer is Jasmine Crockett. So, could Trump run for a third term? And if so, would this be a good thing for America? Joining Piers Morgan to debate this is host of 'Keeping it Real' podcast Jillian Michaels, co-host of the 'Ringer's Higher Learning' podcast Van Lathan, former White House Press Secretary under the Bush Administration, Ari Fleischer and host of 'I Doubt It Podcast' Jesse Dollemore. Uncensored is proudly independent and supported by: American Hartford Gold: Protect your wealth with precious metals! Call American Hartford Gold today & get up to $15,000 in free silver on your 1st order! Call 866-692-2474 or Text PIERS to 65532, or Click the link below: https://offers.americanhartfordgold.com/piers-morgan/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I have had more people say, please run again. Is the long-lived the King Post from the White House flirt with the idea that he's not joking he wants a third term in violation of the United States Constitution? It will not happen. It's a silly debate. Trump is just having fun with all of us. Absolutely, he's having fun. You know, can you guys give us a Donald Trump fun dictionary so that we know when he's having fun and then we also know, when he's serious, you guys break it down and let us know when we should freak the hell out. The hate speech on Twitter has gone through the loop since the Lumpurcy is killing me. Wait, wait, wait.

Throw up a Nazi salute and you know he did, right? I know he did. I know he did. How many videos do you need to see of politicians on the left making the exact same hand gesture? And yet nobody's alarmed. The hypocrisy is bananas here. The problem with US elections is that they never seem to end. A newly minted president waits months to be sworn in

and appoint his cabinet, while a never-ending inquest into the losing side's failures, rumbles on for the best part of a year. And barely 12 months into the presidency, our focus turns to the midterms, where the victorious president usually loses seats in Congress and faces an uphill battle to get anything much done before the whole cycle repeats itself all over again. Well, critics of President Trump's rule by wave after wave of executive order say it's an attack on hallow constitutional norms,

but it may be that those norms are simply a terrible way of doing business. And never mind relitigating the 2024 election, many in the media are currently obsessing over the 2028 election and whether President Trump may find a way to stay in power for a little longer. You think that's an appropriate precedent to set, even if it wasn't you in this position, to see a president serve a third term? I don't want to talk about a third term,

now because no matter how you look at it, we got a long time to go. We have a long time. You know, we have almost four years to go. And that's a long time. But despite that, so many people are saying, you've got to run again. They love the job window. Most importantly, they love the job window. Note that he does say that many people want him to run again, as opposed to many people wanting him to build a motor around the White House and send tanks down the mile. But his main point is the right one. There's plenty to be getting on with right here in 2025. The president about to unleash a new wave of tariffs in what is either Liberation Day or Black Wednesday,

depending on which color hat you're wearing. He's negotiating with Harvard Zelensky and Putin, both of whom got a presidential tongue lashing this weekend over to enter the war in Ukraine. Doge is blitzing the federal government as apparently paid for protesters attacked Tesla's in a ridiculous show of support for waste, fraud and abuse. All of this should be. be a much greater interest to everyone than who is running in 2028. And if Democrats do want to focus on the next campaign, their main concern should be that Jasmine Crockett is emerging as one of the front runners. Last week, she mocked Texas Governor Great Abbott, who uses a wheelchair.

Y'all know we got Governor high wheels down there. Come on now. Mess, honey. Now, Joyless Jasmine is facing a backlash for an appearance on the Breakfast Club last month in which she criticized Republican Byron Donald's for marrying a white woman. We continue to put people into office, and that even means some of our skinfolk who definitely are not our kinfolk, such as Byron Donald's, who are going to continue to say that, like, I mean, the fact that you sitting around talking about life was better under Jim Crow? Like, is this because you don't understand history? Or literally it's because you married a white woman, and so you think that that whitewash you, I'm not really sure, like, what it is. But I need to be married to a white woman under Jim Crow.

Correct. Correct, and it's a joy to call him out. Well, there's a word for that. It's called racism, and it's certainly not the position any Democrat took on Kamala Harris, who has a Jewish husband and two white stepchildren, none of whom had ended at all to do with her disastrous campaign for president. I don't think Trump will run for a third term, although we should waste a lot of time arguing about it.

But if you did poll Americans, and whether they'd prefer Trump-20208 to Crockett 2028, I think I'd know who'd win. To debate all of this and more, I'm joined by the host of Keeping It Real podcast, Gillian Michaels, Van Lathen, the co-host of the Ringer's Higher Learning podcast, Ari Fleischer, the former White House Press Secretary under George W. Bush and Jesse Dolomore, host of Dolomore Daily and the I doubt it podcast.

Well, welcome to all of you. Ari Fleischer, let me just start with you, if I may. From a purely technical point of view, is there any reason that the Constitution cannot be further amended to potentially facilitate, a president who wishes to serve more than two terms? Pierce, I refuse to answer that question. And I refuse to answer it because this entire debate is dumb.

Donald Trump has a way of making his critics take the bait. Don't take this bait. Donald Trump, no matter how his second term goes, and I hope it goes well, is going to leave the political scene, leave the presidency in 2009, on January 20th, 20th, 29. He will not run for re-election. He cannot run per the Constitution, per re-election.

There are other mechanisms you could have the vice president become president, and then he could appoint Donald Trump his vice president, and then he could step down and Donald Trump could assume the presidency. That would be within the Constitution. But it's foolish. It won't happen. This is Trump trolling everybody, and just don't fall for it. Trump does these funny things.

Just go on to the normal things we should talk about, terrorists and all the other controversies. This is not one that even is worth spending time on. He's having fun. Well, we're going to get to the other stuff, which I agree. It's probably more important, as I said in the monologue. But again, look, I'm a Brit. In Britain, I see lots of people, you know, raging away about this,

but seemingly forgetting that in the UK, there is no term limit for prime ministers. You can literally serve for the whole of your natural life if you manage to persuade your party and the country that you're popular enough. So, you know, Margaret Thatcher has served four terms, Tony Blair, your three terms and so on. There is no term limit. Obviously, in the U.S., I think my understanding is there's not always been a two-term limit. So when did that actually come in, Ari?

Right after Franklin Delano Roosevelt, that was a change in the Constitution was amended. You could serve more than two terms from 1789 when our Constitution was created. Right up until after World War II, FDR served four terms. Constitution was amended, you can only be elected two terms. That's what the Constitution currently states, and that's why this is a non-issue. And I can understand. People are taking the bait. My advice to people is enjoy your day, go on, don't worry about this. It will not happen.

And I say that to the people who absolutely love Donald Trump. It will not happen. All right, Van Lathen, are you reassured that it will not happen, or when the of the United States says he's thinking about it. Do you take him seriously? Yeah, so normally I probably wouldn't because you think about, I take him seriously. I mean, you think about all the things

that would have to happen. You think about the constitutional amendment and all of that. And you think, oh, this is just bluster. This is just Trump's spinning a yarn. The only thing is that he didn't want to leave the first time. So he was voted out

of office in a free and fair election and spent a whole conspiracy to create fake electors and had a bunch of people at the capital, which ended up in a very embarrassing and dangerous situation for the American government. And he essentially created an entire political movement around a lie trying to subvert an election. So I'm not understanding why when I've seen him mobilize in that way that I should just think that he's messing around now. I think that if Donald Trump has it in his grasp or his sphere of power to stay home for a third term, that he would definitely do it. He would definitely do it. And the reason why I know that he would definitely do it is because there would be absolutely zero resistance from the rank and file.

on his side to stop him. They would subvert the Constitution or anything else if it meant that that appeased Daddy. Okay, Gillian Michaels, I mean, again, it's an amendment to the Constitution that was made in the last 80 years. There's no logical reason why Trump couldn't move potentially

to have it further amended. So he could technically try and do that. The question is whether he'd be successful. Listen, I am of the ilk that we should pay attention to the things he actually does, as opposed to the things that he says. Because if we were chasing down all of the bluster and all of the craziness, which I think is part of his negotiating strategies to throw the other side off balance, so on and so forth, it would be chaos. We've got four years to wait and deal with this problem should it arise. And there are a host of other significantly pressing issues, I think we should be. focused on.

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Now on with the show. You say problem. A lot of people who love Trump might not see it as a problem at all. They might think, yeah, great. If he's doing great guns by then, if he delivers on all his promises, why, you know, why not? I mean, again, I understand how the constitution is right now to prevent it, But as Ari explained very diligently there, this has only been since the end of World War II.

It's not like he's been there from the start. Are the new amendments to the Constitution less important than the older ones, Pierce? Sorry, Jesse. I said, are the newer amendments to our Constitution less important than the older ones? No, but I guess I would say as a Brit is not an American. So let me obviously make that clear. My accent probably gives you a clue. But I've never understood why there's a bit.

there should be such a sacrosanct reliance on the current constitution, given that so many of the things in it are amendments. So if they've already been amended, why couldn't they be amended again? I mean, treat me like a village idiot, Jesse. Well, hang on, let Jesse answer. But treat me like a British village idiot. If something's already been amended once, actually, why can't it be amended again? Well, it can be.

it's a Herkulean endeavor to try to get that through. But I would challenge your assertion at the very beginning when you said, it's a terrible way of doing business to adhere to some loyalty to the Constitution. It's the basis and foundation for the rule of law in this country, and to ignore it is at folly of the people who will do so. Republicans love to hold up their constitutions that they pull out of their pockets that are nothing but a prop

and act as though they have respect for this document. When I served in the United States Marine Corps for the years that I did, I raised my right hand and sworn oath to defend and support this document against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and that includes Donald Trump. We should have a vital respect and adherence to the rule of law in this country, and it's based on the Constitution. Okay. All right, let's move on to... If you were to amend the Constitution, if you were to amend the Constitution,

it takes two-thirds of the House, two-thirds of the Senate, Senate and three-fifths of the states. Of the states. So the only way you could amend the Constitution to put Trump back in there is if the Democrats want to do it. That's why it will not happen. It's a silly debate. Trump is just having fun with all of us.

And it's just not there. Do you assert, Ari, that Donald Trump is lying when he says, I'm not joking. This is what I want. He's a liar. Oh, he's having fun. Absolutely, he's having fun. I think he has no intention to serving a third term. Let him have a successful second term.

I'm more worried about that. Can you guys do us a favor? Insurrection, so. Yeah, can you guys do us a favor? Can you guys give us a Donald Trump fun dictionary so that we know when he's having fun and then we also know when he's serious? Because when the president speaks, normally we take it seriously. but you guys seem to have this ESP with Donald Trump,

this psychic connection to where you know when he's joking and then you know when he's being serious. So tariffs, Greenland, I need you guys to break it down. You guys could be a charge of it. You guys break it down and let us know when we should freak the hell out because that seems like something that a dictator will want to do and we don't know when he's joking.

He's the president. So when he says something, we take it as him meaning it. Okay, Ari, it's actually, it's actually, it's actually a reasonable point. When Donald Trump was joking. Yeah, it's a reasonable point, Ari, isn't it? Is that Donald Trump is not like any other president. He often does say stuff which he just shoots on the hip or says things to wind up the libs or whatever it may be.

It's not an unreasonable point Van is making that it ought to be probably easier to try and process what the president of the United States actually means in any given moment. Trump was elected because he's not a politician, because he's not predictable. And I do feel sorry for his critics. I feel sorry for people who go through every day saying, oh, my gosh, Trump did this. Trump sneezed that. Trump coughed this. And they die.

And they take it seriously. And you're right. Maybe people like me have a decoder ring. And so we know when he's saying these things that you just roll your eyes and move on to the next one. I do that when he says, is the long-lived the king also part of your Dakota ring, Ari Fleischer. I'm sorry?

I think this is obvious. We should be paying attention to the thing that he does. Is the long-lived the king post from the White House, would this have been something that would have flown in the George W. Bush White House to declare himself a king and also flirt with the idea that he's not joking he wants a third term in violation of the United States Constitution? No, this would never happen before. But Donald Trump got elected.

The American people knew what they were doing when they put them there. They want somebody who's going to shake things up. Part of his shakeup is to say these things. And I'm happy to have that decoder ring. That's what I was saying. Canada's not going to become a 51st state. We're not going to invade Greenland, and he won't serve a third turn. It's so obvious to say.

So he's an unserious, unbelievable person. He's not a... All right. Julie, do you want to jump in? I would simply say, you can. decode it by the actions that he takes as opposed to the things that he says. If he makes legal moves to put himself in for a third term, then we can all be alarmed. I would be alarmed. If he actually invades Greenland, we can all be extremely alarmed. But as far as I can tell,

having now lived through his first term, read his book, The Art of the Deal, and watching his first hundred days, I think there's 70-something days that have passed so far, it's the same negotiating tactics that he's employed strategically throughout his professional career and his political career. So that's your decoder ring. When he takes action to do these things outside of just the words that come out of his mouth, then we can all be alarmed about a third term. Okay. Ari, let me ask him out with that. Hang on. Don't talk a while. Wait, wait. Wait, wait. I want to ask Ari question, which is about tariffs. So on the tariffs, Trump seems to be escalating this tariff war now in a pretty radical way we've never seen before. It's no longer just reciprocal

he's talking about. He's talking about a 25% tariff on all imported cars, but also potentially a sort of global tariff on pretty much everything. Translate this for me. What is Trump's real aim here with this tariff war, do you think? His real aim is to bring manufacturing back to the United States of America. And it's a huge role of the dice. Every economic theory says this will be unsuccessful. It will result in an expensive trade war in which no one will win. Trump believes that the United States will win because we will start to buy products made by Americans. There'll be more blue-collar factory jobs for Americans. And that is what he wants to return to. So he doesn't care if a customer is going to buy a range rover and the price of the range rover is now 25% higher.

that will happen, that way the customer buys a Cadillac made in Michigan. That's his gamble. That's his role of the dice. It's a huge risk. But that's what he thinks, and I think it's genuine. He wants to return manufacturing to America. Okay, Van, essentially, what is, well, hang on, Jesse, I'll come to you off to Van. Van, intrinsically, what is wrong with that ideology? I mean, if Trump, Trump recognizes that American manufacturing has been disappearing rapidly, a lot of jobs and factories outsourcing out to other countries. Actually, is he wrong?

I mean, let's put aside the way he's going about this, which many think is too radical and can't work. But is he wrong in trying to bring manufacturing back in a big way to the United States? All right, two things. One, I want to respond to Julian real quick. So you're right, when Trump does something. But remember, we saw Trump try to overturn an election.

use nefarious and illegal means to try to overturn an election, right? So we've seen him take action to subvert constitutional law and American norms. We've seen him do that. That's the first thing. So when he's not just, we're not just putting out in there. He wasn't successful, though. And should it happen again? But not because he didn't try.

It should it happen again, though? The system held, not because he didn't try. And should he try again? So secondly, secondly, this is what I would say about the tariffs. Number one is we would all like to see domestic manufacturing come back to the United States. We would all like to see Americans have wage growth and stable jobs. The point that I'm making is, or that a lot of people are making, is this doesn't work. When Trump instituted his tariffs in his first term and he tried to raise prices on foreign goods, do you know what happened,

domestic goods actually went up as well. And the reason why they went up as well was because those domestic manufacturers saw demand. They saw the fact that they were now in demand, and they rose prices to meet the prices of foreign goods that were also more expensive. Of course, it matters the way that you do something because the way that you do something denotes

whether or not that something works or not. Jillian was a fitness expert. I like to run. I also like to eat brownies in excess every night around 7 p.m. It's not going to work that way, right? Jillian, I'm going to break even. So you have to do something in the way that will allow it to be successful. And this tariff thing is not going to work.

And that's not a red hat or a blue hat saying that. That's economists who are studying it and looking at it independently. Okay, Jesse. Well, not to mention the fact that even if we were to accept the premise of what Donald Trump is attempting to do here and what his motivations are, it takes, it is a long-tailed endeavor to stand up a manufacturing facility to alter the nature of our economy and how diversify it is. It's not something with this magical thinking that conservative has that all of us, sudden you've got an auto manufacturing plant or name another industry, it takes a long time to get that done. And by punishing the American people with the tariffs and the price increases that are

sure to come and I've already started, you're not ending your goal. All you're doing is creating chaos, which seems to be the order of the day. Okay, Gillian, the problem it seems to me is that Trump's got to be very careful here, that the economy doesn't get sent into a kind of death spiral in the short to middle term while he tries to achieve the longer term goal, which I think is quite an admirable goal, actually. But it's the fact that in the meantime, if the stock market keeps crashing, if the economy starts to tank,

if inflation starts to soar again, he just may not have time to do this in the way that he wants. You know, the midterms could end up being a real shalacking for the Republicans if the American people feel they'd been let down and not buying into the long term. So as Ari said, it's a big throw of a dice. Without question, it's going to be a fine needle to thread, obviously, and I'm certainly not an economist, but I've interviewed different experts on the subject matter.

And here's what I've taken away thus far. And my first question, and correct me if I'm getting this wrong, is didn't Biden keep Trump's tariffs? Because I'm under the impression he did. So please tell me if I've misunderstood that. Now, table, table, okay, so correct. So he kept them. All right, moving on. Now, if we look at many of the ways that he's utilizing these tariffs,

it seems to me that it's been in large part, there's an asymmetry without question, and we could go through the asymmetry with Canada, the EU, China, South America, each and every one. And he's obviously utilizing this as a leveraging tool. So whether it's getting Venezuela and Colombia to take their criminals back, or it's getting neutrality back at the Panama Canal. or whether it's getting different countries around the world to invest here in America.

And again, now, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I was just told recently by an expert that there has been $400 trillion now in investments here from other countries like Saudi Arabia, the EU, even Canada, looking at bringing the chips from Taiwan over here, Hyundai, investing more money and manufacturing over here. So I'm not saying it's going to work. I don't know yet, obviously. It all remains to be seen. But I think the intentions are pretty good. We've tried to get a grip on these imbalances for decades now, and no one's done it successfully. So, yes, I'm, you know, I feel like I'm on a roller coaster and I'm holding on, but I'm hopeful that it's going to work out based on, honestly, the things I've seen thus far.

Okay, Ari, I know we've only got a few minutes. Well, hang on, Jesse, because we've only got a few minutes left with Ari before he has to leave us, Sandy. Ari, just to pivot to what's happening on the foreign stage before you have to go. In terms of Ukraine and Russia, some tension creeping in now with Trump making some jungle drum noises about potentially punishing Russia with tariffs. He said he could fix this Ukraine war in a day. That clearly was never going to be possible and has proven not to be possible. But where do you think we are going with this deal that he's trying to navigate through? Well, you know, the expression is it takes two to tango, and I think you could add it takes two to untango.

And if we're going to be successful in creating peace between Ukraine and Russia, we need to put leverage on both countries, not just Ukraine. So I thought it was welcome to hear the president's tougher tone now against Vladimir Putin. And you have to be very careful with Vladimir Putin. He lies. He lies regularly. He invades his neighbors. And no matter what you think about how long this war can go on or whether America or Europe should be giving aid to Ukraine for how long will we give aid to Ukraine? If you only put pressure on one party,

you're going to encourage the other party to become more aggressive. So I like to hear this new language by President Trump about President Putin. I hope we can achieve peace there. This doesn't have to be a forever war. But this is welcome, in my opinion, Pierce. This is a reflection of the real world and the real Vladimir Putin. Is he joking or is he being serious? Hang on. Jesse, I will get you to. to respond to that, but I just want to, while I've still got Ari for a minute, just on Doge and the backlash against Elon Musk and the attacks on Tesla factories, petrol bombing Tesla cars, attacking people who are driving Teslers, what does that say about the Democrats, the liberals, if you like,

who for many years had Elon Musk as their hero, the guy that brought green energy into the world and through the cars? Not to mention all the arson attacks at Tesla dealers throughout the United States. It's horrific. There is a violent left in the United States of America. And it really began in 2016 when Donald Trump was running and people at Trump rallies would get attacked. When they had the convention at the White House in 2020, as people left the White House after the Republican Convention, they were attacked on the streets of Washington, D.C. There is a terrible violence inside the left.

And you're seeing it now in the Tesla dealerships. I'm so glad we have a different new FBI that takes us seriously. They arrested already, one of these people in Las Vegas who committed these attacks. And it's not how Americans should settle. It's not how any democracy should settle its differences. The differences should be settled peacefully and at the polls. But this anti-Trump reaction, anti-Musk reaction, is terrifying for anybody who really believes in democracy.

There is a threat to democracy. It largely comes from the left, not from Donald Trump or Donald Trump supporters. Wow. Are you, before you go, I want to say something. I'm going quickly, then. Before you go, I want to say something real quick. I just, I hope that all of the people that are vandalizing Tesla dealerships everywhere, because I drive a Tesla, bought in 2018, cool car.

I'm ashamed now, but I drive one. I hope that all of these people are rounded up and caught so that a Democratic president can pardon them. Tusha. That's a good argument. Well said. I know. I know it is. Yeah, it's pretty high in class. Thank you. All right. You're going to let you go. Thank you very much indeed. You're coming on on a sense and I appreciate it. Thank you. Drive safely. All right. Jesse, I mean, look, we'll come to Ukraine in a moment. But on this, on what's happening with Tesla,

I just find it so ironic that here you have a huge number of people where Elon Musk was the hero, but because politically he slightly changed colors, they are now using violence and really awful violence. He's thrown up Nazi salutes. He didn't slightly change colors. He didn't throw up a Nazi salute, and you know he did. I know he did. I'm not a Nazi apologist. You do you.

It was not a Nazi salute. Why would he throw a Nazi salute? because he's a white supremacist. He's not a white supremacist. Why would he campaign for the FD, AFD in Germany? Why would he do that? Why would he continue to talk about the great replacement theory and birth rates among white people being too low in a...

But he's right about birth rates. He's right about birth rates. Yeah, like I said, you do you. It's not me. Well, it's not about doing me. He's right about global birth rates are plummeting. and that is extremely dangerous for the future of the world. It is. It actually could be, yeah, it is.

If you look at some countries around the world now, it is becoming a genuine crisis. I don't know why you would dismiss that. Because I don't think it's an existential crisis. It's cyclical population rises and falls. In the 70s, it was like, oh, it's an explosion of too many people. We're not going to be able to feed the world's population. And thankfully, to people like Norman Borland, who through genetically modified organisms,

we're able to feed the people who are here. But it's not an existential threat that there are certain countries do face a far greater problem, South Korea, Japan, but United States is not one of those countries. This is born out of racism that the birth rates are not falling in Africa, and it's the, oh my God, black people

will be the dominant force on the planet. That's what this is born out of, and that is what motivates Elon Musk, the guy who, for sure, didn't throw up a Nazi salute. Well, he didn't. He went from my heart to yours, as everybody knows. It was a completely trumped-tumped-up.

As everybody knows. To claim him as a Nazi salute. All right, Van, Van, you've been gesticulating wildly. You were laughing as Ari was talking about the petrol bombing of Tesla dealerships and so on. Why is that funny? Why would you not want to roundly condemn any act of violence, whether it's against cars, factories, dealerships, whether it's targeting people driving Tesla's.

Why would any of that make you feel like you're amused? So here's the thing, Pierce. I watch your show all the time. I enjoy it greatly. You are good at the condemning game. You're really good. You're so good. You're good at the, like, getting people on and go condemn this.

And it kind of takes the sting out of what we're actually talking about. So I'm going to try not to do that. I'm not going to give you a condemn. Okay. Really? You're not going to condemn what's happening to test us? No condemn. No condemn.

Wow. Why? I can tell you. I can tell you right now that I am not going to be involved in anything that has to do with anything violent, but I'm not playing your condemning game. This is what I will say. Why not? Why wouldn't you condemn it?

About the actual point because it's a trick back. And I'm not doing that. What's the trick? So it's a trick back. Pearson, you know it. You know it's a trick back. What's the trick? What's the trick?

The trick is this. So the trick is this. So the trick is getting me to moralize within an immoral. side. With a crime. It was a crime, yeah. With a crime. Right, right. So it's, so it's, I'm asking you to condemn a crime, literally. Right. So, so what you're doing is you're getting, you, you want me to get on a moral high horse, right? I want me to condemn criminal behavior, yeah. Despite the fact that we could have all kinds of conversations about how Trump has broke the law, about how Trump supporters have engaged in violence, all of that stuff. But that kind of gets glossed over.

while I'm trying to convince people how morally righteous and upstanding I am. Okay, I know who I am. No condemn. No condemn. This is what I'll say. To the main point of this, which is Elon Musk, right? The Elon Musk of this entire thing. Elon Musk did not just become a public enemy number one for people after he decided to support Donald Trump. Elon Musk took over Twitter and brought hate speech back to Twitter. That's a fact, okay? He brought hate speech back to Twitter.

What do you mean he brought hate speech back? Meaning that on Twitter, a lot of words, terms, phrases would get you banned and muted and kicked off the platform. And they still do. They came back to Twitter. They still do.

No, they really, they don't. They still do. The hate speech on Twitter has gone through since Elon Musk. The hypocrisy is. He's killing me here. Wait, wait, wait. Just, you're, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just,

just, just, just, when do I get to just go? Okay, let's look at it for a second. How many videos do you need to see a politicians on the left making the exact same hand gesture, and yet nobody's alarmed? We've seen it over and over and over again from politicians like AOC being a perfect do that. However, you're upset about Elon Musk being an anti-Semite who happens to be friends with Jews, higher Jews, has never killed a Jew, and yet you're not upset about the swastika is being scratched into his car. How about the fact that the left, and we all know the reason that Kamala Harris

didn't actually choose Josh Shapiro as for VP, although he would have probably been the best choice. Could it be because he's Jewish? I don't know. Let's speak. speculate at it. Probably. Or how about the fact, I do think that. The hell of a high watermark that's why she didn't choose. Yes, I do. Hasn't killed a Jew, therefore he hasn't killed a Jew. What about the, what about the sick hail from all of your politicians? Not only has he not killed a Jew, he's hired Jews, he's friends with Jews. Donald Trump's daughter Ivanka has converted to Judaism. And they're very close friends. I would imagine that is, I can't. You're full of crap. Wait, wait, wait, wait,

How about this one? Why are you not upset about Mahmood Khalil? Where is your outrage about this guy? Jillian, who's part of an organization that celebrates the October 7th attacks. You want to breathe. So you're saying that Kamala Harris is an anti-Semite because she didn't choose a Jewish running man. She's married to a Jewish guy. That the Democratic Party did not choose.

I think I'm not saying Kamala Harris. Can you concede that point? I'm saying that the Democratic Party. That doesn't make. any sense? That doesn't make any sense. He's married to a Jewish guy. That doesn't make any sense. I am talking about the entire party. So look at the level. So you really, so tell me, why do you think that I didn't choose Josh Shapiro?

I don't have no clue. I wasn't in the meetings. So Elon Musk is not an anti-Semite because he's never killed a Jew, right? He's never killed a Jew. So that in-law must is not what I said. Kamala Harris. That is, that's exactly what you said. Obviously, I said to you, he is friends with Jews. He hires Jews. He's ever killed in me? To tell him to Nazis who slaughtered 6 million Jews. Obviously, there is no comparison

and it's insulting to a person whose grandmother ran from the Nazis that you would even make such a grotesque comparison. You are exploiting this tragedy actually that the Jews experienced to demonize this guy for

political purposes and there's no question. Where is your outrage about your own politicians making the exact same hand gesture? Why are you guys defending? Mahmood Khalil. Like, God forbid, we consider deporting this guy who's here on a visa. And this is a guy who represents the C-UID, who is now in prison, has an entire article supporting October 7.

I can't with your hypocrisy. It's bullshit. There has been no due process. If you want to talk about this nation and what we stand for, the rule of law and due process should be chief-am-a-lawed. a visa. I guarantee you. First of all, this has not played out. It's being looked at. Second of all, he is here on a visa. And I guarantee- The Constitution applies to him. So tell me about your hate speech. You're so upset about hate speech. Are you upset about

substacks hate speech from C-U-A-D? Celebrating October 7th. I'm moving the goalpost. No, I'm pointing out your grotesque hypocrisy to serve your political ends to a means to an end. All right, Jesse, let me ask you this. Jesse, hang on, hang on. Jesse, would you condemn the attacks on Tesla, on the dealerships and so on the firebombing dealerships? You can condemn that. I don't understand why Van has such a problem with condemning obvious criminal behavior. Well, you've talked to him.

I'm not going to answer for Van. I don't know him. But they have broken the law. It is civil disobedience. And with civil disobedience, if you get caught, there is a there is a, there is a, a, uh, uh, uh, um, A consequence for that. If I'm going to sit here and talk about the rule of law, I'm certainly not going to be a hypocrite like Republicans are

and act like that only applies to the other side. Yes, they are breaking the law and they should be held accountable if convicted by a jury of their peers under the system of laws we have in the United States, undergirded by the Constitution. And how do you feel, Jesse, about Bill Ma are going to see Trump at the White House for a dinner with Trump, with Dana White, with Kid Rock? Yeah, I think what a brain trust

Kid Rock and Donald Trump and Bill Maher all in one room to wax bigoted anti-science and maybe Dana White I don't know much about him Oh, Bill Maher's now now a bigot That's unbelievable

Yeah Well, Spickett's about Bill Maher sat with Donald Trump He's now bigger Hey, hey, so look Here's the thing I feel like sometimes you guys don't pay attention

First of all, I'm not going to call. Can I? You think that's the only form of big a jury in the world? The reason is that might have a bigot. Hang on, hang on. Don't all talk at once. Don't listen to be clear. Hang on.

I'll come to you, Van. Jesse, why is Bill Mara Bigot? I don't understand. Well, he's an anti-trans bigot. Trans rights or human rights. He says, I don't care where weird. No, he's not. Sir.

No, he's not. I'm going to tell you when he said it. He said, I don't care where weirdos go to. P that is bigoted language. Bill Maher's an anti-science anti-vaxxer. He's terrible. Oh, my God. He absolutely is not an anti-vaxxer.

He wishes he hadn't got the COVID vaccine. Nor is the anti-Science. And there are good reasons for his concern on that particular vaccine. Only wants with trans people. He wants trans people to stay out of women's basis. I happen to be very close with Bill Marr. I know his position on this subject matter. Because you're carrying a lot of water.

apologize. You're saying for big and anti-science. All right. This is what I would say about this is what I'll say about Bill Maher. So the Bill-Mar shift has happened, happened long ago, right? The Bill Maher got on his show, he said the N-word on his show. Black people didn't like the fact

that he said the N-word on his show. Ice Cube came on his show, and then they went back and forth about the fact that Bill Maher very casually said the word, said house nigger on his show, and black people did not appreciate that. I don't know if Bill Ma thought that he's been with so many black women that he had the right to use that word on his show, but we didn't like it.

And since then, what you've seen from Bill Maher, what I've consistently seen from him, since people got up in arms, is him chastising groups of people that in the past he used to advocate for. There has been a definite rightward shift in Bill Mars politics. No, you know what, Van, you know what, Van, you know what, Van, and the reality is that, that's true. Let me respond to you. That's okay.

Hey, that's okay for Bill Maher. He can do whatever he wants, but we can do what he wants, but we can do out what we want about it. I watch Bill Maher every week. I'm doing his show in two weeks. He hasn't got a bigoted bone in his body. This is all complete bullshit. And honestly, all he's become is like me. Oh, wait, wait, wait a minute.

Hang on, I haven't finished yet. All he's become is like me utterly disillusioned. Well, I haven't finished when I was talking. How are you going to tell me how I'm supposed to feel? Well, I got it. Well, then, well, then that's fine. But how are you going to tell me? as a black man how I'm supposed to feel about Bill Mara.

Because I'm telling you you're being totally disingenuous. Totally disingenuous. How can you tell me that? How can you tell me that? You can't tell me how I'm supposed to feel about something. And I'm telling you you're full of shit. On your show. Okay.

On your show. Well, I think you're full of shit. And on that note, we're going to leave it. But it's good to have you on uncensored. The great thing about unscense, we can call each other full of shit. And you know what? We can all end on a happy note. Thank you all for going on the show.

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