Piers Morgan Uncensored - 'You Want The World To Think It Was ISRAEL?' Piers Morgan vs Bassem Youssef on Charlie Kirk

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

Charlie Kirk’s murder has shone an unflattering spotlight on the abject state of discourse and division, especially online, where extreme takes increasingly lead to real world consequences. Many of the protesters at London’s massive anti-immigration march this weekend brought their fury about Charlie Kirk onto the streets. And at the heart of it all is a bitter blame game in which neither side is in the mood for compromise. Comedian and activist Bassem Youssef returns to Piers Morgan Uncensored to give his take.Piers Morgan Uncensored is proudly independent and supported by: Ground News: Ground News: Go to https://groundnews.com/PIERS for 40% off the Vantage subscription and find the truth mainstream media doesn't want you to see. Oxford Natural: To watch their full stories, scan the QR code on your screen or visit https://oxfordnatural.com/piers/ to get 70% off your first order when you use code PIERS. Preorder Woke is Dead by Piers Morgan: https://www.waterstones.com/book/woke... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If I got shot today, I am sure there are millions of people around the globe who would travel in my death. So Charlie Kirk himself tweeted the right to speak freely at the birthright of all Americans. It's very interesting that in the last three days after Charlie Kirk was killed, they even proposed a bill to revoke citizenships for people critical of Israel. Who committed the hit job on Charlie Kirk? I don't know, but I find it very interesting that Netanyahu, Prime Minister of the country, went around the TV shows, making sure that we didn't kill. I mean, this is like a very weird position.

But I've also been, as you know, increasingly critical of the Israeli government. I'm sorry, you're not fooling me, peers. You are actually the real Iron Dome of Israel. You want the right to suggest that Charlie Kirk was the subject of a hit job by Israel. You want the world to think that. Well, let's talk about Toby Robertson. So Israel openly causing civil unrest in London. You call me an ill-informed, irresponsible journalist.

Because I'm not a journalist. comedian, remember I'm a clown. Charlie Kirk's murder has shown an unfattering spotlight on the abject state of discourse and division, especially online, where extreme takes increasingly lead to real-world consequences. Many of the protesters at London's massive anti-immigration marches weekend already fired up by some dubious content, brought their fury about Charlie Kirk onto the streets and at the heart of it all is a bitter blame game, which neither side is in the moon for compromise. Comedian and activist Bassam-Yusive is a familiar face to uncensored viewers.

His recent contribution to these debates implies he's in no mood for taking the temperature down. He's about to embark on a new tour called The Belly of the Beast, and he joins me now. Bassin, great to see you again. Hello. What is your view of the Charlie Kirk assassination? Oh, assassination is bad. I mean, it's a very open question. So if you're talking about the assassination, of course it's bad.

But can you get more specific, what do you want me to say? Yeah, I mean, I guess the more specific one would be. appalled. I didn't agree with everything Charlie Kirk stood for or said, but I respected the fact that he always went into college campuses in particular and invited everyone who disagreed with him to come and debate with him. He was always happy to hear other people giving their views and would challenge them and they would challenge him. And I was appalled that the woke left, as I see it, as opposed to the old liberal left in which I used to be. a happy member, that the woke left seemed to be gleeful about his murder and have raced the social

media to celebrate it. We've seen rap stars do it. We've seen TikTokers do it. Influencers do it. All over the world, competing with each other to see who could be the most gleeful. We've seen teachers, doctors, university administrators and so on. I'm a complete loss to understand how any human being, whether any sense of humanity, would want to be seen. celebrating the murder of a 31-year-old man with his wife and two kids watching at the time for his opinions? I mean, it's terrible, of course.

I mean, celebrate anybody's death, whether it's a 31-year-old father or babies and children in Gaza every day where we have seen the walk left and the right are celebrating the death of children every single day and nothing happened to them. I mean, first of all, when you say the walk left, who are these people? Are they like, who are the leaders?

A bunch of pop stars and... and influencers and people with TikTok. I mean, does that represent? Well, I think it's more, well, I would say it's more than that. I'd say there's a lot of people who I think have been part of what I call the woke ideology in the last few years, which has morphed from a very laudable thing originally. In the 60s and 70s, it started in American black music, and it was about promoting a raised awareness of social and racial injustice.

I read a book about it. By that criteria, I'm happily woke. But what it's morphed into in recent years, driven, I think, by very tribal social media, is it's become a form of fascism, where people on the woke left are quite happy to want to shame and vilify and cancel and destroy people for having a different view to them. Whether that view is about historical figures or about books or about movies or about fashion or about hairstyles or what you can wear on Halloween or whatever it may be, it became a puritanical purge, which I felt has bordered on fascism. And at the heart of it was the constant description of Donald Trump as the new Hitler, his supporters of the new Nazis.

They're all a bunch of fascists. And eventually you have a young, deranged mind who, apparently, according to investigators, is of a woke ideology radicalized, who initialed on the bullets that, that this was an anti-fascism assassination because he probably believed that Charlie Kirk was a fascist and a Nazi and everything else because that's what his people had told him.

And I feel that's an incredibly dangerous cocktail that has been allowed to happen. And when I saw the celebrations going on, I realized it wasn't just about this shooter that there were a lot of people in America, in the UK, around the world who actually agree and we're prepared to celebrate it? Well, let's break this down.

Now, when you say the left is very general, if you have thousands of people with TikTok accounts that celebrate people death, it happens on the right and on the left. There are people who have mocked the death of the Minnesota lawmaker and her husband and her dog that were shot in front of their four years old. And again, I just want to preface it,

like I'm not condoning what happened to Charlie Kirk, what happened is terrible. It should not be accepted. And mine myself, I will never celebrate something. like that. But like I'm a little bit confused because someone like Randy Fine, who's a congressman from Florida, who posted about going after people jobs if they mock Charlie's death online, which is terrible, of course, like if you mock anybody's death. But the fact that you go after someone, it's very confusing. For those of you who don't know who Randy Fine is, he is the fat

bitch who continues to suck Israel lick every day on daily days. And that guy, he is in Gaza, like he said, everyone in Gaza should die. Kill them all. Let the blood falling. as they are animals, and now he pretends to have a soul, that this kind of manufactured selective rage of a confusion. If you're going to have rage, please, you're going to be angry, please. But just like, be consistent. You have people losing their jobs, their careers, getting cancels for being dismissive about Charlie that, again, terrible to do. But I don't get it because I thought canceling something is what the hippie piece he left would do. I don't condone making insensitive remarks about a guy who was just murder. We can discuss his ideas. We can praise

or trash his ideas because his ideas will live on forever. But if some people are insensitive or rude, well, it was a public figure. For many people, he was a controversial figure. If today Biden or Kamala Harris or Hillary Clinton died or got shot, I'm sure there's a lot of people that will celebrate their death. If I got shot today, I am sure there are millions of people around the globe who would travel in my death, and they would make content that would call it insensitive. I'm sure that if you died, Pierce Morgan, people would be celebrating.

So I don't understand, like, yes, we can talk about it being insensitive, terrible, we can talk about it, but I don't understand the double standards of the West. Well, I think I do, listen, I think on that best, though. Let me, let me. Yeah, sure, finish, yeah. Because, like, for years, we as Muslims and Arabs, we were lectured from the West about freedom of expression, freedom to offend. It's very important.

Freedom to offend. Freedom to offend. But for years, people made fun of Muslims, Arabs, our religion, our culture, our babies and children being the cattle being gathered every single day, and no one lost a single minute of sleep over it, which is very confusing to me, because the lines between what is legal, what is allowed, what is accepted, what is punishment,

what is prone upon, these are lines steam hazy. So please, yes, go, rage, like, be angry about it, but, like, be consistent so people can believe you. You know, I think you make a very good point. I've seen some of the hounding of certain people out of jobs in the last few days is clearly hypocritical, because unless you're actually condoning, the murder and endorsing and supporting an act of criminal murder,

if you're just criticizing Charlie Curtis for positions that he held, I think that's perfectly okay, right? I may not like it if you're a friend of Charlie's or one of his family members, but he would be the first to say, that's fine. Where I think the line is for me with cancel culture, if you like, is that there's a guy, for example, who's the president-elect of the Oxford Union debating society. I think you've done it, passive, haven't you?

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That's groundnews.com slash peers. Yep. Right. So we've both done that. It's probably the most famous debating society in the world. The whole point of it is that they bring people into that chamber to debate, to have different opinions and debate, as you and I do regularly.

And the president-elect, after Charlie Kemp, was murdered, having debated opposite Charlie Kirk in that chamber in May himself, actually gleefully celebrated the murder, said L-O-L and said, let's fucking go with a big exclamation mark, right? That to me, it's not cancelled culture to say that guy should not be the president of the Oxford Union debating society. Clearly, he should not be the president of a debating society if he celebrates somebody being murdered for their opinions. Would you agree

with that? I agree with that. But let's say, if we agree on that, let's agree on everything else. So everybody who holds a position who mocks the death of Palestinian children being killed every day in front of cameras, they should lose their job to. You understand why it's difficult for me to be on the same page with you?

Because this is like cherry-picking. Well, you haven't asked me if I agree with you. No. I don't disagree. I think, I think, If you're a doctor, let me explain. If you're a Harvard professor or you're a doctor or you're a teacher and you glorify or celebrate the murder, depending which side you're on,

whether you see it as murder or, you know, collateral damage as you go after Hamas, whatever you want to call it. But if you are seen celebrating the death... You have to mention Hamas there, right? No, no, I'm just showing... You have to just like... No, no. You just have to mention Hamas there.

No, no. You just have to mention Hamas there. No, no. You just have to mention Hamas there. I have to mention, I'm simply saying there are many pro-part, wait a minute, let me clarify. The reason I clarified, there are many people who believe what the IDF has been doing with civilians is murder and genocide.

There are others on the pro-Israeli side who believe that they are targeting a terror group in Hamas and that innocent people will get killed in the process, therefore it's not murder. So I'm clarifying the two sides of that debate. You have a strong view. Other people have had on have an equally strong view the other way. But my point being, if you're in a position of... There's no two sides of genocide, yeah.

I know. There's no two sides of the Holocaust. I know. So let's stop two-siding it because it's becoming exhausted. Okay, let's not get into that part of the debate. The part I want to agree with you about is this. I think if you're an administrator of a university or a hospital or a school, if you're in charge of teaching people or, you know, medical practice,

and you are seen celebrating the deaths of innocent people, on social media, you should not keep your job, right? Because clearly you are unfit for that job. And it should be down to the people who run these organizations to say, sorry, no, you don't get to teach kids if you glorify murder. Well, there are people who are teaching kids on the left who actually who glorified, like, say like,

hey, happy five university for George Floyd is a five years sober because he's dead for five years. I mean, the thing is, my thing is, if we're going to live in a utopian, polite society, Let's make it general. The idea of just like cherry-picking things like that. I don't disagree. Yeah.

So and the thing is, here's the thing. This is the internet peers. The internet will always promote the most hateful, the most controversial reactions. This is how social media like. I mean, there's like a whole kind of scoring system alike would be one point, an angry face would be five points. This is what the internet.

This is what boils up to the surface. It's always like that. If people say, oh, Charlie was a good man, I hope he is in heaven, that will not get a lot of traction. But people with more controversial, they're just the function of the Internet. You know, but if you're going to talk about the Internet, people all go on Twitter and just write whatever on their mind. But if you're going to punish people with whatever in their mind, so we need, I think, to expand this spectrum. And let me read something that Charlie Kirk himself tweeted talking about free speech. because in April, he said,

tomorrow the House will vote on H.R. 867, a bill that will criminalize private boycotting of Israel, fines up to $1 million in prison, up to 20 years. Bills like this only create more anti-Semitism and play into growing narratives that Israel is running the U.S. government. In America, you are allowed to hold differing views. You are allowed to disagree and protest.

You're allowed to far too many people who hate America to move here from abroad, but the right to speak freely at the birthright of all Americans. This bill should not pass any Republicans that was with this bill will expose themselves. We will be watching very closely. And then it's very interesting that in the last three days after Charlie Kirk was killed, in the past three days, the Congress approved $650 million for Israel for missile defense.

They presented an amendment that bans Pentagon from boycotting Israel. And they even proposed a bill to allow Mark Rubio to revoke citizenships for people critical of Israel. This is what we need to talk about. This is what we need to talk about. If there are people there who celebrate the Pope, the Pope would kill. There are people like, it's been going up for years. Even when the Pope would like, if he died, people celebrate his death. Yeah.

You know, this is like this is words. Yeah, it could be terrible, offensive words. But when you turn words into destroying people careers, revolving people in citizenship, because they talk about a foreign country, this is the real problem. This is the real problem with freedom of speech. Not about people like celebrating or angry about someone who die. Our roads and infrastructures, our education system, our health care, they're failing. While settlers in the West Bank, they occupied Palestine, they get free housing and get free health care, free education.

Same in England. I'm sorry, but like you as a very famous and a very able and a very competent investigative reporters, I think you should actually talk about why more than half of your cabinet in the British government is financed by Israel. Why the Royal Army, the Royal Air Force, are giving logistical help to Israeli planes bombing Gaza. I'm sure that there's not a single British person who would agree on that. Isn't that more important than this kind of manufacture rage? I mean, why don't you talk about like this is your tax money? Aren't you worried?

No, no, but like seriously, seriously. I hear you. I'm very, very curious. Yeah, but why don't you talk about this? But Bassem, as you know, I talk about the war all the time. No, no, you never talked about the Israeli lobby financing your British medicine. You never did. All right, there are always lots of...

You never did. Okay, but there are lots of... You never did. Okay, but I've also been, as you know, increasingly critical of the Israeli government. You can't accuse me of being biased. I'm sorry, you're not fooling me, Pierce. I'm sorry, because, like, I came on your show many times I discussed October 7th. Many people came to you and asked you, and people said,

Oh, Paris Morgan have like changed the mind. I'm sorry, it doesn't fool me for a second. It's not about changing my mind. I'm sorry. You and the Western media have been complicit in diverting and deflecting the truth and the facts. You are actually the real Iron Dome of Israel. You pretend to ask the top question for the Israeli to maintain your credibility. But like you, over the past two years, you had laundering Zionist talking points.

You never investigated the Hannibal directive. You never questioned why it took them six hours to respond. You never used the Hasbell. How many times have I had you on the show? No, no, no, no. How many times? How many times have you been on? No, no, no, it's not about...

You say I've never questioned these things. I've platformed you multiple times and you have talked about this every time. Right? So you have been doing that on my show. Literally, you have been doing that on my show. And you effectively sabotage these interviews. I wrote up in your interviews many times

he's a white stand who's a British reporter who talked in length about the rape hoax, about the animal directive. and he was raided by British police. They took his laptop. And I asked you twice on your show to bring them on your show to talk to you about how the Israeli propaganda lies are all lies. But you never did.

If you actually were actually honest about this, you would do this. It's not about platforming. I mean, you're platforming people. It's good for views, good for reach. But like, I'm sorry. It's about, like, how many times did Ben Shapiro come on your show and you talked about moral equivalency? There is no moral equivalency.

There's more equality. Well, he thinks there is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said there's no moral equivalency between Hamas and Israel. He said that. That's right. But the thing is, yeah, but if any journalist who had dread a little bit, who would say, well, now, Schomsky said that moral equivalency is a propaganda term

that was used in order to prevent us from looking to our action. So we turn people into bad guys and good guys. The bad guys, even if he's occupied, he deserves to be killed. The good guys, even if they nuked them, it's okay because it's the good guys. You see, this is how you do the conversation. It's not about platform. You think Ben Shapiro, you think, listen, Basson, you think Ben Shapiro is very partisan to the Israeli position.

I wouldn't disagree. I don't think he would disagree. But many people think you are very partisan the other way, and that your hatred of all things Israel leads you to say things. Well, it leads you, hang on, leads you to say things like this. This is what you said about the Charlie Kirk murder in relation many people think you were implying something about Israel. Here, let's take a listen.

Charlie Kirk is an obvious hijab. What happened there? But will we get the answer? No. They will stick it to whatever and then use it. I don't know. Maybe they would stick it to Iran like Netanyahu and his people, you know, the Israeli wire and the others were pushing for Iran being the culprit

behind Trump's assassination. They can do that to Charlie Kirk and start a war or stick it to the left and start a civil war. There is anger. And there were people who would use this anger. So, Bassem, just to be clear, who committed the hit job on Charlie Kirk? Today's show is brought to you by Oxford Natural, makers of the optimum day and optimum night, all natural supplements. Thousands of Brits and Americans are already taking them with incredible results.

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that Netanyahu, Prime Minister of a country, went around the TV shows, making sure that we didn't kill. I mean, this is like a very weird position. So why is suggesting Israel did? Have you ever, no, I'm not suggesting anything. But you are suggesting that, aren't you? You are, though.

Because maybe me, because the FBI is lying to us. The FBI has been lying to us. I mean, I'll give you an example. But why don't you be honest in the way, you always want everybody else to be honest. Why don't you be honest to admit that when you say Charlie Kirk's murder was clearly a hit job

and then you start talking immediately about Netanyahu denying it was him, that you believe, or you want people to think, I have doubts. You want people to think it may be an Israel hit job. I have doubts. I have doubts. Because, like, I mean, look at the facts.

Why on earth would it be an Israel hit job? We know who it was. I am not sure. I don't know. Well, another Patsy 22 years old jerking off in his mom's basement. I mean, another like Trump. I mean, here's the thing. The FBI, like, has been lying to us.

They have been covering for, like they told us about the Epstein file, which is Israel is clearly involved. And then they said, there's no Epstein file. Absolutely, like, Israel has been, like, holding 98% of the Congress hostage either with money or blackmail. And you cannot dispute that. And actually, if you want to dispute that, here's like a little case for you. And that last month, a guy by the name of Tom Allegheny, He was the head of cyber security in Netanyahu's government, right? And this guy, he's not a random guy.

He's like part of the Netanyahu government. And he was caught in Nevada, an FBI sting child sex operation trying to lure a 15 years old minor. That guy was protected by the DA, who was Israeli, by the way, in Nevada, and he went on the plane and he missed his trial. Now, you come to me and you tell me all of these things. Like when people are raving about Israeli Mossad and how they're infiltrating, and then suddenly we have to believe that they're innocent. I mean, not a single mainstream outlet, talk about Tom Alexandrovich. So now you have pedophiles coming into our country.

Actually, I've read that story on multiple mainstream media outlets. No, not a single one. Go to ShatGBT right now. I'm very familiar with that story. No, no, no. Yeah, you have seen them on young Turks. You have seen them on breaking points. You have seen them on those independent media outlets.

I read it on the Guardian. Yeah, the Guardian. I'm talking about American mainstream, right? And also American mainstream. Not a single comedian in late night show even discussed it. So the question is it, when you have this cover up by the FBI, when the FBI let a pedophile from Israel flies back to Israel, while also Israel is known to behold the biggest number of pedophiles escaping from justice,

having refuge there. All of these things. Like, I mean, doesn't like make you like, what the hell? This is like a whole cover up? Well, he does. But then it does, Bassem, but then when I see you say Charlie Kirk's murder was tilly a hit job and you apply it's Israel, I think you've lost your mind.

Maybe I did. Like, I lost my mind when I told you about the Hannibal Directive, and then I came up. No, I think there's merit to the Hannibal Directive story. Oh, now it's there is merit. Yeah, but I think you're completely... Because I remember, because I remember you making fun of me and you're telling me you show me just a bunch of pictures.

Yeah, unlike you, Massim, so now are you changing your mind? My views of things evolve when I see new information. It's called being a journalist. Really? Why don't you do your job as a journalist and actually talk about the handling of the... What you mean is, why don't I smear?

What you would like me to do as a journalist is only focus on anti-Israel stuff. And that's fine. That's what you want to do. No, no, no, no. I'm saying that you're not asking the right questions because you... Maybe you're a better journalist than I am. No, no, no. I'm not a media better.

Like, I am just like a normal guy looking in the internet. But let me ask you a question. You always talk about hostages, hostages, hostages. And then Israel goes to Qatar and bomb that negotiating team about hostages. Yeah. While you, for two years, you were always like, what about the hostages? What about the hostages? At this point, and here's my, my, my proposal.

Why don't you ask me what I think of that, given I've literally interviewed, you today, Israel's UN ambassador, Danny Danon, about the attack in Doha. About time. Why don't you ask you what I think first? Before you make... No, Ambassador, I'm sorry. Before you make presumptions about what I think about it, why don't you ask you ask you what I think about it?

It's not about presumptions. You have actually laundered a lot of Zionist talking points. And you never ask the tough question. You ask the tough question now when it is fashionable. So why do I get so many Zionists telling me, complete opposite. Yeah, yeah, well, they do that to everybody. It's like they do that.

Like, I mean, they even talk, they even called like Biden and Trump. But what is your point about the strike in Doha? You don't think I'm against that? No, no, I'm not talking about them against that. I'm talking about you always put like that hostages front and center. Yeah. Right?

And we have told you many times, peers, for two years, it's never about the hostages, never about the hostage. But you would put people, what about the hostage? And we told you, Netanyahu doesn't care about the hostages. We told you from different. their sources from the Israeli government. It's not about the... But they should be released, right, Bassam?

They should be released. Yeah, yeah, they should release. But it doesn't matter if you have 50 hot-ish or 20-hubish, you don't dissimate a whole country, a whole people. But I agree. That's not an excuse. I agree with you. My question...

Bassam, I agree with you. Why should even, why should you even take Israel for any word that it's said, right? They lied about not trying to get into civilians. They're tired about, like, not targeting... women, children, building. They learn about the intention not to displace people in Gaza and they're doing it. They light about being like everybody's being ham...

I don't think you've watched my show for a while, Levi Bassett, because otherwise you would know that every... Because... Because... Because... Because... Because... Because the... Because the damage... Bassem, if I may respond, you would know if you'd watch my show for the last few months that one of my biggest criticisms is Israel's refusal to allow

international media into Gaza to independently verify what's been going on. My strong suspicion is that when they finally get in there, they will find a lot of evidence of war crimes. I've said that very loudly and clearly. I'm sorry, peers. I'm sorry, peace. The Israeli soldiers, they film on TikTok their war crimes, and they put it in the world.

Do you, I was like, I'm sorry, I did that anybody who knows anything about an army, any army in the world, know that army is all about this. Those people are not going around with their mobile phone shooting this and putting out unless the army is letting them. I don't think the British Army or the French Army or the Egyptian Army or the American Army will allow their soldiers shooting this and putting there unless there is some sort of unwritten rules. Like, yeah, show them. Show them what we can do.

This is not just like a bunch of soldiers. But I've called that stuff out, as you know. Or maybe you don't know. I said it's totally wrong. In some of these passengers, it's never enough for you. You see, it doesn't matter how critical journalists are about Israel. It will never be enough for you because you want the right. You want the right to suggest that Charlie Kirk

was the subject of a hit job by Israel. You want the world to think that. That's why you said what you said. And that's why when I asked you, you went, Mel Njahou says it wasn't him. By the way, I'm not even the only one. Here's the thing. If you continue lying to your people, right,

I'll tell you what, let's call me a conspiracy theorist, right? Call me someone who is illogical. Call me whatever you want. If your government continues to lie to you, consistently. This is where conspiracy theories thrive. Why do you want to be one of them? If you want to cover it?

No, no, no. I'm not saying I'm one of them. Why float a mad conspiracy theory about Israel? Because it's the internet and I'm a comedian. Okay, but it's not that funny though, is it? Actually, a lot of people thought it was very fun. You have millions, I'm sure they did, but millions of people follow you and you want them to think that Israel was behind the murder of Charlie Kirk. And you call me, you call me an ill-informed, irresponsible journalist.

Yeah, because I'm not a journalist. I'm a comedian. Remember, I'm a clown. I'm a clown. I'm a clown. I'm a clown. I don't think you're a clown. That's what I do. Oh, I'm a clown. Actually, I'm a comedian. Comedians are actually over-paid clown. But I think you're somebody who is so blindly hateful of all things Israel that you'll even promote a conspiracy theory, which is obvious nonsense, that they have something to do with Charlie Kirk's murder. I'm not blindly hateful of Israel. I'm actually eyes. why I hope and hate to look Israel. Sure. But unfortunately, what it's done has driven you to promote conspiracy theories

about their potential involvement in Charlie Coates murder. I'm not promoting. I actually, I just released a video today and I told them, you need to give us better lies. I didn't even mention that I said like, this is a hit job. It was a hit shot. Whether it was like a tactical. You inferred it was Israel.

And when I asked you about it, you went on a little rant about Netanyahu. Everyone can see it for what it is. No. Okay. So call me a conspiracy theory. No, I think you're doing it quite deliberately because you hate Israel so much. You want to associate it with every bad thing

that's going on in the world. I prefer to be a bit more nuanced about it. Let me ask you before we finish about the Elon Musk intervention in the UK protests at the weekend, the Unite the Kingdom rally organized by Tommy Robinson. What was your view of that?

Actually, there was a scene that I found it very interesting. I felt like the Maori, which is the indigenous people of New Zealand. They were doing like a traditional dance, like a haka dance, and they were like tearing off the Palestinian flag, which I found it very, it's like an oxymorid, like indigenous people tearing off Palestine. Well, let's talk about Toby Robinson.

Well, this guy has been in Israel many times, and he has like IDF shirts and Mousshead shirts all over. Should we actually call that a conspiracy theory that he's not like actually like someone who's been pushing a certain agenda or that also... No, he's obviously been pushing a certain agenda. He's very pro-Israel, obviously. Yeah, okay.

So that's not a conspiracy theory, then. No, it's a fact. So Israel openly causing civil unrest in London, in London, Israel has been openly causing all of these problems. Israel has been openly... But he's not Israeli, is he?

No, no, no, but he's... But he is being put by Israel. Like, Israel doesn't have... Like, I mean... He was doing this stuff long before Israel came along, trust me. The 525 Congress people out of the 535, which is 98% of Congress, they're all paid by Israel and not Israelis,

and they're causing more damage to American public more than anything. So the thing is, let me tell you something that, like, it might actually make you see where I come from. If you are a citizen of a country and it is the superpower of the world, it is one of, by the way, I like living in the United States, The United States is a great country, and the people here are great. I have never had a single bad day here because the people here are lovely, and it's a great country and great pretension, wonderful people.

But when you see that all of your politicians, all of your representatives, are openly financed by a rogue country that is indicted in the ICC and the ICA, and just last year we sent up $30 billion, and we sent them billions and billions of dollars, and we see all of our infrastructure is falling, you will also hate that country. You know, it's not that even if Gaza, like, is resolved today, I don't see it resolving in a good way, right?

Even that, that still stands. Israel is a leash on our system, on our country, on your country. Can we get back to the rally? Can we get back to the rally in London? That was the question I asked you. And whether you think it was right for Elon must to get involved in the way that he did and to say you have to fight violence,

on the left, you have to fight back? What does you think of that? I mean, isn't that inciting violence? The guy, the richest guy in the world who has the biggest platform the world, who, by the way, just suspended the Twitter account of the Flotilla that going there to Israel, which is making very biased.

But like, I don't understand. The guy, it's crazy now that we've seen people in tech using their power to incite violence. It is crazy and it is unacceptable. and I think you as a British citizen yourself should be worried. You should be worried because for the past two months, nonstop, daily,

Elon Musk has been tweeting about Muslim gangs, raping women, and he's even like getting cases from 1991, where statistics say that actually 85% of rape and the criminal crime is actually done by white people. So I don't understand, is that helpful? Is that healthy to England? Well, what was not healthy was a massive cover-up going on with the almost exclusively British Pakistani gangs

who were grooming and raping many young girls, including underage girls, for many years. And it was deliberately covered up to avoid creating any racial tension. And then subsequent governments single-handedly failed to deal with this and made it worse. So, yeah, that was a real scandal. And Robinson was very vocal about it. And it played into his hands as an example of the establishment,

working to cover up the sexual abuse of young girls? Yes, the cover up of sex and abuse of young girls and men should not go away like Tom Alexandrovich who actually escaped. That's another cover up. I mean, presumably you would condemn those British... You would condemn those British... You would condemn, I presume, those British Pakistani men for what they did to those girls, right?

And I would condemn the governments who covered up for them. And I would actually ask them to be brought to trial. Yeah, I agree. The same way that everybody in the egg should be brought to trial for covering up Epstein files and Tom Alexanderovich. Okay. I don't disagree.

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