Piers Morgan Uncensored - ‘You’re WARCRIME-MAXXING!’ Piers Morgan vs Clavicular On Israel Scandal + Andrew Tate Arrest

Episode Date: July 20, 2026

The latest Uncensored uncovers Andrew Tate's latest arrest, a high-profile extradition battle, and a diplomatic controversy involving one of the internet's biggest streamers. Andrew and Tristan Tate were arrested in Miami after UK prosecutors unveiled 38 new charges, including additional allegations of rape and sex trafficking, bringing the total number of charges against them to 59. The brothers deny all wrongdoing and are expected to fight any attempt to extradite them to Britain, arguing they should remain in the United States. Streamer Clavicular returns to Piers Morgan Uncensored to tell us what he knows about the new allegations about the Tate brothers and to speak on his controversial visit to Israel that sparked political fallout. His trip drew widespread attention, with criticism from Israeli commentators over his past associations, viral misinformation surrounding the visit, and disciplinary action against an IDF soldier who appeared with him during a livestream. Was the visit an attempt to repair Clavicular's image, a public relations opportunity for Israel, or something else entirely? Also joining the show is attorney & former Florida state senator, David Aronberg and editor of The Grayzone, Max Blumenthal. Piers Morgan Uncensored is proudly independent and sponsored by: Dose: New customers can save 35% on your first month of subscription by going to dosedaily.co/PIERS or entering PIERS at checkout. 00:00 Introduction 01:40 David Aronberg on the Tate’s arrest and why the brothers will likely to be extradited 05:27 David Aronberg reacts to Nick Fuentes’ comments and whether Donald Trump will intervene 07:14 The Tate brothers will spend the rest of their lives in prison says Daivd Aronberg 07:54 AD: Dose: New customers can save 35% on your first month of subscription by going to dosedaily.co/PIERS or entering PIERS at checkout. 08:43 Piers’ monologue on Clavicular 10:05 Clavicular discusses Tate brothers and the case against them 13:47 Piers quizzes Clavicular over the reasons for his trip to Israel 22:00 Clavicular discusses his Israeli TV interview and his anti-semitism backlash 24:10 Clavicular on being kicked out of a club in Israel 25:11 Does Clavicular take his influence seriously? 27:50 Clavicular reacts to Polymarket’s prediction for him to travel to Russia - https://polymarket.com/event/which-countries-will-clavicular-visit-in-2026-2026071415300304330:50 Is Clavicular ‘war crime-maxxing’ and would he meet Vladimir Putin? 33:35 Clavicular on IDF’s Shira Braun losing her job due to her relationship with him 36:46 Clavicular on AOC discussing looksmaxxing, and whether she is good looking 41:13 Max Blumenthal joins Piers to discuss his visit to Iran 44:45 Max on the ‘canary mission’ 46:10 Piers challenges Max on civilians being murdered at the hands of the Iranian regime 49:23 Will Chamberlain’s message to Max Blumenthal 52:15 Max’s final word on the Iranian regime and the role of Israel Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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run into the tape brothers i think it's a bit of an embarrassment to the united states there's a 41 percent chance you might visit russia in 2026 is that true i want to visit russia i think that's another controversial place you're going to go to russia as you've been to israel why not go to Ukraine and go to Gaza? Well, probably because they're losing. If Vladimir Putin invited you to go and see him when you were there, would you go? I'll see him tomorrow.

What you're doing is war crime maxing. In a moment, I'll be joined by the hugely popular streamer, Clavicular, his recent visit to Israel became a diplomatic incident. But we'll begin with this. Andrew and Tristan Tate were arrested in Miami this weekend after UK prosecutors added 38 new charges, including further accounts of rape and sex trafficking

to the 21 they were already facing. They could now be extra-guarded to the UK, but as dual US citizens, they will fight to remain in Florida. Both brothers have always denied criminality, including on his show, and Andrew Tate says the British case against him is corrupt. Well, a lawyer for the brothers said they're currently being held in solitary

confinement like al-Qaeda terrorists and that they are political prisoners, but will that defence be enough to keep them in the United States? David Arrenberg is a US attorney and a former state senator in Florida, and he joins me now. Mr. Arenberg, thank you very much indeed for joining me. How significant are these arrests of Andrew and Tristan Tate on United States soil,

especially given the fact there is an extradition treaty, obviously, with the UK, and the belief is the UK pushing to have them brought to the UK for justice? Here's good to be with you. It's very significant. We're talking about 59 total charges now, relating to seven alleged victims for a, that span between 2010 and 2017. You have the 21 original charges, and now you have 38 new charges. And so you have three alleged victims in the first round of charges, and now an additional four victims here. And I know that there's talk in the Internet that somehow the Trump administration

and allies are going to somehow block the extradition. But since the extradition treaty has been signed between the UK and the U.S., only one case has ever even been held up for extradition. This is a matter of course where people accuse of serious crimes, and this is a serious crime, and when there is at least probable cause that there's enough evidence to justify the arrest, that those people are sent back. It may take a while. It may take a year. It may take two years.

But these brothers, I believe, will be sent back to the UK and they will face justice. I mean, the allegations include rape, child pornography, extreme pornography, trafficking with sexual exploitation, sexual assault. These are serious, serious charges. I guess the obvious question is it's already been rumbling on for many years, this case against both of them. You know, you talk there it could take a year or more for this. They might appeal. They might delay, whatever. You know, why does it take so long this?

It's a good question. The wheels of justice move slowly, peers. So in the meantime, while the cases are still pending in Romania and the UK, now you have an additional delay in the United States because the brothers are going to be able to try to fight extradition. It's a loser. They're not going to stop the extradition, but they can go from judge to appellate court, even to the U.S. Supreme Court. They can fight it all the way. But here's the bright spot for those of us who want justice, is that as they appeal, they are most likely going. going to be held in a detention facility, in a jail. They're not going to be out there living the high life like they have been in Florida.

They're not going to be co-hosting bare-knuckles fighting competitions. They're going to be in a cell while they wait through the appeals. There was a statement from Joseph McBride, who's the lawyer representing both brothers. Last night in the other kingdom, a corrupt and fallen nation that jails his own citizens to tweets while ignoring rape gangs it found too inconvenient to prosecute, conjured up a wave of charges against the Tate Brothers.

This is not law enforcement. This is a political hit ordered by a dying empire that fears two free men with a microphone more than it fears actual criminals walking its streets. And their case has been taken up by a lot of people online, including Dick Fuentes, who tweeted Free Andrew and Tristan Tate. It would be a national humiliation, he said, the United States to allow the UK to extradite them

to American citizens have a trumped-up Me Too charges. the same country that persecutes white people the speech while importing rapist migrants. So you can see the way the political wind is blowing here in certain quarters. The Trumps have historically been reasonably friendly in terms of their view of the Tate's. Does this change that?

I don't think so, peers, because it's limited to what the Trumps can do here. So first off, what hypocrisy for these Internet influence to take the side of the... the Tate's when they are some of the leading voices against Epstein and the so-called Epstein class. Well, how is this any different than what Epstein had done? At least the accusations are just as serious here. But yet, they take up for these guys. I don't know the difference other than, I guess, they identify Andrew Tate with themselves and the MAGA movement. But even if Trump wanted

to do something here, the court system is independent. The only thing that the Trump administration could do if they wanted to, is that at the very end, when the courts have ruled and they're about to sign off on sending them back to the UK, the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, could block it because he could say that this is a political prosecution, and that would violate Article 4 of the treaty between the U.S. and the U.K. But that is almost never the case. I mean, that has happened once to a diplomat, not someone like this. And does the Trump administration really want to be on the side of these notorious manosphere, misogynist, pro-terrorist individuals? I don't think so. And remember, even in the MAG of movement, there's a split when it comes to the Tates because

Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida and his attorney general have been trying to get them arrested in Florida. They've been investigating them. They want them out of our state. We may be the free state of Florida, but not for these guys. I think that this is too much of a hot potato for the Trump administration to stand in the way of an ultimate extradition. The final question, if they were convicted on all counts of all these charges, what kind of sentence could they be looking at? The rest of their lives in prison. I mean, and that's just in the UK. There's also charges back in Romania, and there's an investigation still underway in the United States. So I do not think that the Tate brothers will be able to go back to the life they're used to. I think that they're academy, their school, which gives out PhDs for young men to try to be misogynist like them.

The PhD stands for pimping hose degrees. I mean, that tells you who these people are. So I think they're facing the rest of their lives in a prison cell. David Arambeau, thank you very much indeed, for joining me. I appreciate it. Thank you, Pears. Support for Uncensored comes from dose for cholesterol, a simple and reliable way to take control of your own health.

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Last time I interviewed Braden Peters, better known as clavicular, he'd faced some criticism for a trip to Miami in which he appeared with it among others, Andrew and Tristan Tate. Well, can the US song, Heil Hitler was played in the night club and videos show Myron Games performing a Nazi salute while the likes of Nick Fuentes and Sneko laughed along. Well, this time it's a visit to Israel, which is stirring controversy, whether it was designed to improve his image with the Jewish community or for him to improve Israel's image with everybody else is a matter of debate.

Either way, it didn't all go according to plan. Many Israeli commentators condemned his past association with anti-Semites, a fake photo of clavicular and Ben-Givir was viewed many millions of times. A young female IDF soldier was struck off and given a suspended jail sentence repairing alongside him in a live stream. The Israeli news station I-24 said, quote, the visit of the anti-Semitic blogger Clavicular has come to an end,

but the consequences are still being felt in Israel. Well, Clavicular rejoins me on Uncensored Now, welcome back to Uncensored. Hey, thanks for having me back, beers. So, look, there's a lot going on in your world. I'm going to get to that very quickly. But just first of all, obviously, the last time I spoke to you, just had this big furorory

in which he'd been in this club with the Tates and others. And we've got this big break. news this week, obviously, about Andrew and Tristan Tate being arrested in America. What's been your reaction to this? So I actually pulled up about five minutes after that whole situation took place. It was at a boxing event. So that was quite surprising to hear because, you know, I thought I was going to run into the Tate brothers.

You know, I don't know anything about the case personally, but, you know, obviously they're innocent until proven guilty. So we'll see what happens. You know, I really don't know anything too much, but let's see what happens. Have you had much contact with them since the Miami Nightclub incident? Yeah, yeah. I've talked to Tate, I think, once or twice, and we've done collaborations, more so with Andrew than Tristan.

But, yeah, yeah, I've seen them once or twice. Does this, I mean, how do you feel about this sort of situation? They're facing 58 charges now, incredibly serious charges. across a wide range of different things, from rape and sexual abuse to child pornography and so on. Will you now distance yourself from them completely? How are you viewing what is happening here? Well, I mean, it's really not too surprising

because this is what happens to a lot of different influencers is there's a lot of political attacks with a lot of these strung-up charges. So, you know, it's happened to me in the past, So political persecution through legal means is nothing new. So, you know, it's just another case of that. I mean, how do you know that it's that? How do you know for sure that these are not charges with merit?

Seven different women are making a number of very serious allegations. How can you be so confident this is just a trumped up, as you put it, political persecution? Well, I could say this. Once again, they're innocent until proven guilty. That is true. but you've already effectively convicted the alleged victims as being liars. Well, I mean, in the last proceedings of this case, if I remember correctly, there was people who were paid to make certain statements.

So that whole thing really calls a lot into concern. So, you know, I do believe in due process. So that's what I have to say about that. I mean, my final question on this, because I want to move on to you, but when you say you believe in due process, but you also say it's a trumped up political persecution, those two things can't be true at the same time. Why not?

Well, because in the second part of that, you're basically saying this is all trumped up, it's all political, there's no merit here. These charges are ridiculous. But in the first part, you think due process matters. Does it not matter for the alleged victims? Well, I mean, it's a little bit ridiculous, the entire thing about the extradition.

I think it's a bit of an embarrassment to the United States to allow the UK to come in and do an arrest on United States soil in a very public way. Well, to be fair, the Americans did the arrest and we have an extradition treaty between the U.S. and UK. I mean, most of the clients were allegedly committed in the UK. Why shouldn't they do this? Well, just a bit of an embarrassment. But is that because, Clivacchio, is that because essentially you don't believe any of the allegations? Well, no, I believe that, you know, the United States shouldn't, you know, be extraditing to the United Kingdom. But that's besides the point.

So let's move on. Okay. Let's move on to you and Israel, because like I said in the intro, the last time we spoke was after this huge thing went down in Miami. you were in the van. They were playing this Heil Hitler song, the Kanye one. And you got a lot of flack for that. And you came on and you defended yourself to me very vigorously in that interview. And I did draw a distinction personally between you and the Tate's and Fuentes and these others.

And I did sense in that moment you were a little uncomfortable being caught up in what happened there. And I guess that leads to the obvious question. your trip to Israel, partly with all that in mind, to show people that you're not anti-Semitic, as many seem to think you were? You know, that wasn't the entire goal for it to be like, you know, an apology tour. I think that would almost make it sort of inauthentic if that was the thing, like, look at me, guys, you know, I'm in Israel, you know. But I would say that that's certainly the case just based on the different things.

that we did there. We showed a lot of different sides of the country that might not be so well known in the mainstream as well as on short form media, which is often a lot of people in Gen Z posting, a lot of anti-Israel stuff, whether I believe that or not is besides the point. But I think going and doing a 13-hour raw, uncut live stream is helpful for the entire world to see the state of the geopolitical conflict. Except that the criticism about what you did is that you just saw a very sanitized version of what Israel would have wanted you to see.

You weren't able to get, well, you weren't able, for example, to go into Gaza or to go into southern Lebanon or any of these areas where the IDF of, you know, committed what many people believe to be war crimes. You were in an area of Israel, which, you know, to be fair to your critics here,

You could argue that you were being used as a bit of a propaganda tool on this trip because they would want you to go back as a very influential young man in America. They would want you to go back and say, you know what, Israel's a pretty cool place when in fact they're involved in multiple wars that many people feel have crossed a line and become war crimes. Are you not concerned about that? Well, listen, I don't know anything about the war, to be completely honest with you. but regardless, I did enjoy my time in the nicest hotel in all of Tel Aviv

rather than going in the middle of an alleged war zone. So I'm not too upset about that. Who actually organized your trip? Where did the idea come from? The idea came because one of my buddies in Mekanos was headed over there to DJ at a wedding. So we decided, hey, why not? No one's ever done a stream in Tel Aviv before. It's supposed to be this war zone going on.

So, you know, let's go check it out and see what the vibes are. And what were the vibes that you experienced? Well, I had actually a really good time. And if you watched my stream on Thursday, we made a house remix of one of the popular Jewish songs. We played it in one of the clubs. You know, we were behind the bar bartending for a little bit, just walking around this busy strip called the Rothschild. Wild Street or something like that. And overall, we were very well received.

A lot of people were very appreciative that I went to Israel because it's not really represented in any live streams, any media, besides stuff about the war. Are you a little naive, Cleveciccan? I say this respectfully. Are you a little naive in saying, I know nothing about the war? And I went there to show the good side of Tel Aviv and Israel

to young people because they're getting a, wrong idea from TikTok. Obviously, if you remove the war from your thinking, then that's fine. But is it right? Is it not naive to say, I haven't even bothered to look into this stuff? And then to what many people think what you're doing is providing a sanitized version of a country that right now is at the epicenter of multiple wars in southern Lebanon, in Gaza, against Iran.

therefore divorcing anything to do with the war or a war, any war, from the story, is naive at best, and to many people's eyes, overt propaganda for the Israeli government. You must have been thrilled by what you've done. Oh, well, I mean, I prefer the term blissful ignorance, because it allowed me to go and have a great time without a care in the world, really. So, you know, low cortisol lifestyle, individualism. This is always what I've talked about.

So this is really nothing new that I don't have to constantly be worried about a geopolitical crisis all the way across the globe. Did you feel that Israelis in Tel Aviv live in fear? I mean, how did you feel when you were walking around? No, I felt like at certain points when I was walking on the boardwalk, it reminded me of some elements of Miami Beach. Yeah, I mean, Tel Aviv, it is. It's amazing, under normal circumstances, it's an amazing place. But of course, the argument of the Israeli government is that the reason they're having to fight multiple wars

or multiple fronts with multiple countries is because they're under constant threat. But you didn't get any sense of that. Well, there's always rumblings and there's always media about the ceasefire ending with Iran. I think that was around the time of my trip. actually that occurred the day that we were planning to fly into Israel. So that definitely called into question the safety,

but it was a bit of a nothing burger. And my time in Tel Aviv was extremely well received. The locals there were extremely nice. And I had a good time. There were some bits of it which weren't quite as positive, I guess. One was when you were interviewed on Israeli TV and asked if you would apologize for the Heil Hitler video incident because you were there, obviously.

I felt like I was talking to you again. You know what I mean? I didn't have my soundboard ready. I said I felt like I was talking to you again back in February. Yeah, I remember asking you that question. Regardless. I mean, I said all I have to say about that. So like, once again, and I had an interview with Sean Hannity the other day

where I basically said to him, like, how many times this is going to be asked in an interview? Is it until I'm 40 years old? because there's really no statements and nothing new I could say. How about you focus on the positives is what I said to the interviewer, that I'm over here, no one else is. And quite honestly, like, really, that's the hill you're going to die on is attacking me, someone who's in your country to represent it in a positive way.

You really want to come after me. Like, come on. Well, I think there's bigger. Let me play devil's advocate. I'll play devil's advocate because you called it a poor, a poor journalistic tactic. If you're going to be negative and talk about all situations that aren't positive,

I don't want to talk to you. And you left the interview. Now, as a journalist, I would say, look, come off in, clavicular. You're going to Israel, right? Which is almost exclusively Jewish people, right? And the last thing that anyone really was aware of you

in terms of a big news story was to hire Hitler. Whoa, are you saying it's an apartheid state? No, I think the argument might be that Gaza is. Do you want to make that statement on the air? No, I'm not saying it's, no, no, I think you misheard me. Let me ask you the question, then you can decide it. My question would be this.

I don't think it's a poor journalistic tactic, given what happened in the Miami nightclub, given that Heil Hitler, Kanye's song, was the one that caused so much offense because it was being played and all you guys were there. It's an obvious question when you go to Israel with so many millions of Jewish people there, obviously the media there in an interview would have to ask you about it. Why would you get so defensive?

Why not just say, you know what? What happened was terrible? I shouldn't have sat there and just... I've said all I have to say about it. Because really, they could have played the clips from my entire media run that I've done hundreds of different interviews where I've been asked the same question, and it's been the same answer. I had nothing to do with it.

And so... Why, out of interest, I'm genuinely curious. Why don't you... Do you have any more questions besides that Miami night? That was seven months ago. I do. I do. Why don't you go with them?

Let's get some new content, you know, repeating the same. I'm going to get some new content. I could give... Could we just call it on that segment and that line of question? I'd like to ask one. I really think, I really think, if people have... said this to me quite a bit is that, you know, we could actually get along well, and I think we would I don't disagree. I don't disagree. Listen, last time I interviewed you, last time I interviewed you,

my daughter, my daughter, who's nearly 15, at a French school in London, came out and said, all the kids in the school were talking about our interview. Now, that's a French school in London talking about me interviewing a young, 20-year-old guy as you were at the time in America. I found that an extraordinary cultural phenomenon, right? So let's move on to the good questions. Yeah, we will. I've got plenty of good questions for you. My final question on that point,

and you can choose not to answer. Oh, well, hang on. Okay. No answer it. Don't read it. You're just trying to go for, you know, the question, the viral problem. I'm not reading it.

It's just something that came to mind when you can ask you one more thing about it without you losing your shit. You don't want to ask one? You don't even know what it is? No, I'm just going to interrupt you. I'm not going to answer it in good faith, and I'm just going to interrupt you because I've said all I need to say. Okay.

The other incident that was reported apparently happening in Israel was that you were supposedly kicked out of a club for this furority. We've got a clip of it. Just give me your response to this and tell us what actually happened. No, not true. So, yeah, I had a bit of an issue in that club, and, you know, the security was being quite disrespectful to me. And there's a lot of different rules about having your own foreign security.

Apparently, there's stuff about licenses. So they were just talking about how we were unlicensed. And there was a huge miscommunication between the manager there, not actually the owner and myself. So that's all it really was. It had nothing to do with that. I saw people claiming that as I was getting kicked out of the bar. And that's just quite ridiculous. So that was complete propaganda.

So it had nothing to do with that whole thing in Miami? No, and I was offered the entire night of comp, you know, free drinks, really everywhere I went in Israel, and the same was true there. As your popularity has grown clavicular, and like I said earlier, I see you as a very different character to someone like Andrew Tate, who my issue with him from a start has always been his brazen misogyny, because I don't want young men to think that it's cool to be a misogynist or to be repellent about women.

And I'm sure you would agree, right? Yeah, I'm not a misogynist myself. I love women. I love having them around. So I'm hanging out right after this with a couple of girls we got over there. So it should be a good time. Good vibes. The question I was going to ask you was, in terms of your rising influence, how seriously do you take that?

Are you beginning to think more carefully about stuff you say publicly because you're aware that millions of young people will be, watching, listening, taking it in? Correct. Yes, no, of course. And I'm very responsible about how I use my platform. And I think I reflected that quite well on the tweet that I made the other day, that I find it kind of ridiculous how one of the Israeli reporters was trying so passionately to get me to choose a political stance about the foreign conflict.

And I said, look, I'm not an expert. I'm making it very well known that I'm quite ignorant on this issue. so other people, you know, like yourself, like other reporters, should be talking about this kind of stuff, not me. Yeah, but I guess, again, I don't think you're a smart guy. You would know that by going to Israel, it would attract a lot of attention. And I guess the argument that's critical about what you did is that whether you intended it or not,

you've been used as a bit of a propaganda tool by the Israeli government, right, who obviously recognize how influential, you are and that you saying great things about Israel and everything without going into any of the negative stuff about war is good for them. So do you understand why people think that may be an issue? Yeah, no, I can totally see that. And the criticism makes sense, right? Because we didn't go to any of the controversial places like Gaza. But once again, I think that should be the responsibility of reporters, not the responsibility of a 20-year-old live streamer, quite honestly. There's a...

I just got it here. Hang on a second. Yeah, there's a polymarket thing I wanted to read you because it was quite interesting. You had? Yeah, they're speculating on your next move and where you may go next. According to Polymarket,

there's a 41% chance you might visit Russia in 2026. Is that true? Yeah, I want to visit. Russia. I think that's another controversial place. You know, and I'm views maxing at the end of the day. Like, you know, so I'm using like politics and what people say about these different countries as a way to like engagement for them. But really, like you could attribute all these trips to just like exploring different nightlife and doing a bit of tourism. Right. So I would say, okay, but you're going to go to Russia as you've been to Israel. Why not go to Ukraine and go to Gaza?

Well, probably because they're losing. Because they're losing? That's your criteria? Well, I mean, quite honestly, it might be a little bit more volatile there if I had to guess. Right. And I don't think Ukraine are losing, for example. Well, I wouldn't know once again. But I know there's the whole situation with the war, but it's going to be a lot safer, in my opinion.

capital city of Russia than the capital city of Ukraine. Is that not accurate? I mean, I don't know. I'm asking you. Well, it probably would be, but I think the argument, again, against a visit to Russia, would be, you know, the Russian government, Vladimir Putin, I'm sure, would love to have you in Moscow, for example, saying, saying lovely things about how great it all is. But if you keep going to these places which are at war without any attempt to involve that in your thinking, Again, you're just going to be accused repeatedly of being a propagandist, a tool for these governments. Does that not concern you?

No. Honestly, I'm fine with whatever people want to say. I'm fine with calling me a selfish prick. Whatever, really, this entire thing that I do, the reason that I get up in live stream every day is not for world peace, is not for some political campaign. It's for myself, right? So, God forbid, I want to go to Russia.

and explore Moscow and go out and have a good time there, and I'm really not going to apologize to anyone for it. If Vladimir Putin invited you to go and see him when you were there, would you go? I'll see him tomorrow. Really? Yep. And you wouldn't see that as a political move? Nope.

Really? I would just be intentionally ignorant to all of the political implications. But why? It begs the question why? Because it's too much controversy, too many questions, the media trying to be not so friendly to you. And that's really not what I want. I want people to ask me on interviews what they could do to looks max, right, and to rate them. Or something like silly and, you know, a playful question like that.

Yeah, but the argument will be, from your critics, will be that what you're doing is war crime maxing. I think what I'm doing is I'm getting global attention. And then I'm talking about a cause exclusively that I am someone who's an expert in. So when I talk about looks maxing and when I talk about all these different things that are amazing, how people shouldn't be drinking from an early age because it inhibits important growth pathways, I think that's a message that should be spread to the youth all around the world. Right. And people say all these things, all clavicular, you know, you talk about this, you talk about that. And it's like I've talked about how I've personally done things in the past, but I've never advocated for them. I've never advocated for people to use recreational substances for people to consume alcohol. I've actually done quite the opposite. And anything I've ever talked about in terms of lux maxing, I've always said quite carefully to do under the supervision of a doctor. So we are going on a worldwide media tour. And then, talking about a very good thing, which is looks maxing.

If Donald Trump invited you to the White House, would you go? I'll see him tomorrow. So is there anyone you wouldn't see? I don't want to say anyone because then you're going to like, you know, say some dictator who like throws people out of helicopters as like a gotcha. Well, he already said you see Vladimir Putin. I'm pretty sure he's done stuff like that. Oh, well, you know, once again, blissfully ignorant.

To a reasonable extent, yes, I would want to see anyone because anyone who I could, you know, spread my message to, I think it is a good thing for men and women all around the world. That's the reason why all these kids in the primary schools, like you said, are talking about me because it is good. It does help people, you know, feel more confident to look better. But you accept that when you go to these countries, you're not really interested in revealing the things. full story that you see, yours is a more superficial one, right? It's about... Well, why can't multiple things be true at once? No, they can. Of course they can.

But if it's not... But if you're not giving any of the negative, are you providing a responsibly balanced insight into these places? Or are you just saying, hey, nothing to see here? I shared the negative. I shared the negative how a lot of the times I didn't have Wi-Fi in Tel Aviv, you know, and things like that. One of the consequences of the trip

was that the IDF said last week it removed a soldier called Shearer Braun from her position in its International Communications Division and imposed a suspended jail centers because she appeared in an online broadcast with you. What did you feel about that? I think that's a little bit ridiculous. That's just people on the internet

making a lot of noise and they shouldn't have did that to one of their own who really did nothing wrong. So the IDF shouldn't have done what they did? Yeah. I've heard that, or it's been reported, that the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu wanted to get you involved in various product lines and stuff. Is that true?

Product lines? Well, stuff that you could sell, which would be promoting Israel and so on. No. Have you had any conversation with the Israeli government? No, there were so much proper. Well, yeah, I had a conversation with the Israeli government. But really, it was nothing about product lines. And that was the same amount of propaganda that you saw with, like, all these fake pictures of me with, who is the guy?

Engivir. I have no idea that even is, quite honestly. He's the national security minister. Right. So, like, that's the thing. A lot of the tour people were making all these AI posts, making all these outrageous claims. And a lot of it was, it turned out to be a hoax, as you've probably seen. But once again, when this kind of stuff happens, it just makes me go viral.

And is that ultimately what you most want? To go viral? Yeah. Of course. Above all else? I mean, not above all else, but it's certainly nice. The American... Do you know what I go viral?

Do you know more people to watch your show so that your Polly Market deal gets used? Of course. How much do you get paid from Polly Market, by the way, because I want to get a deal with them? A good sum of money, yeah. It's a mutually beneficial relationship, yeah. They're one of our sponsors. I like working with them. I actually find that, journalistically, I find all their prediction, odds and stuff very interesting

because it gives us an insight into what the markets are saying, where the money's going, what people are thinking, what they're predicting and so on and something. I have no problem with that in terms of any impact on the journalism. Sorry? Can you give them a shout about me? See if I could get it. I'm surprised they haven't already been in touch. Well, I mean, I met the guys once at the club, but it was a bit of a controversial thing.

How much are you worth at the moment? I don't really like to get into that. I don't think it's anyone's business. What's in your pocket? That's something that my parents have always taught me. is to keep your cards close with how much money you have. 100 million? Once again, that's just something that I've been taught not to...

Should polymark you take the upper or lower on that figure? I'm not going to implicate myself in insider trading. Alexandra Acacia Cortez, finally, is an American politician. And she talked about looks maxing. I mean, looks like it is just on that. It is insane that your language is now talked about around the world. Do you have a stop and think, how has this happened? Not really, because it makes so much sense, right?

Because a lot of the advice in the mainstream was completely cope, like these pickup artist courses and all that, failed to acknowledge a really important element and a really key piece of nuance that your looks do matter, right? And result from person A, who's extremely good-looking versus person B, when saying the exact same thing to a girl, are going to drastically differ. So it is very obvious.

me that this has been the phenomenon that it has, it's just because it makes sense, right? So AOC talking about looks maxing, phenomenal. I think she's very good looking, to be completely honest with you, and I'd be more than happy to have a conversation with her. Well, she said to me it's less about himself as a person. It's more about what leads young men to go down these types of rabbit holes. At the end of the day, there's always going to be something. We really need role models of people who love themselves.

And you reply, why do people act like you automatically reject the important? of charisma of personality when becoming a looks maxer, it's always been about being as well-rounded as possible and maxing every stat. I mean, just on that point, when you look at someone like me, for example, on the looks-maxer stat breakdown of charisma personality looks,

how are you viewing me? I think you're extremely charismatic. I don't think you would have the career that you have without your journalistic skills. and how you could communicate and all these different things. I think another big part of it, and this is something that I mentioned on Hannity, I noticed that a lot of the mainstream TV show hosts have hair as well. So I don't know quite how old you are.

61 years old. Most people are completely bald or Norwood 6th or higher before then, and that's not the case for you. So I'm doing one on the looks, as well in the looks department? I would say. Thank you. That's actually a badge of honor coming from you clavicular.

No worries, Pierce. And I'd be happy to have a conversation with you on how you could ascend further because I think it would be quite beneficial to your career. What would be your key piece of advice for me then to ascend my career in the looks maxing department? Well, we could go over a really beneficial anti-aging protocol. A lot of it,

extend to avoiding harmful UV rays, for example, that really diminishes your collagen in Alastin, and then gravity takes its course once that Alastin has diminished, and you start to get that jowl-looking effect, sunk in an under-eyes. So that's something that could be avoided quite easily with an SPFPA plus plus-plus, and things of that nature. I will take that in the spirit, I think you intended it, which is not a grotesque insult, but more as a genuine, a genuinely humane gesture to somebody who could just improve things. And I'd be happy to do it off camera since you've been so gracious towards me, regardless of the one question.

I think besides that, I think we get along quite well, so I'd be happy to. You know what? You're a cultural phenomenon, and I don't see you in the same light. I see some of the others who I think are much more politically motivated. And I think that you come on and you take the questions. And fair enough, you know, I think we probably could get on well. You know, I've got three sons in a two in their 20s. So, you know, there's a lot to discuss.

It's an interesting world out there for guys like you who suddenly have a global appeal and global reach. And I'm sure that just as I could improve, you yourself could probably improve in other ways, right? Yeah, no, I don't, and I've never claimed to be, you know, the looks max, best looking guy. I actually am pretty harsh on myself. And, you know, I'm saying that I just have knowledge in a lot of different areas. of looks maxing, health, pharmacology, never claimed to be the best looking or anywhere close, really.

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Gray Zone editor Max Blumenthal was recently entertained with his devices seized by authorities after returning to the states from Iran. And he joins me now. Max, welcome back to Unsense. Good to see you, Pierce. First question, you know, why did you go to Iran?

And in particular, why would you want to be known to have attended the Ayatollah's funeral? Well, I went to Iran on a press visa just like every other journalist who was there. All the mainstream members of the press entered the same way I did. I applied through the Iranian e-visa system, picked up my press visa at the interest section, and went in and covered the largest funeral, not just the largest funeral. I think it was the largest gathering in human history. and I gained insights I would have never gotten about the state of the Islamic Republic and its constituents and what they wanted as we were on the brink of returning to a U.S.-Israeli-imposed war on Iran. While I was there, I was able to interview officials.

I interviewed the mayor of Tehran, Ali Reza Zakhani, who presided over the 10 million strong funeral procession. for Ayatollah Ali Hamini, I interviewed academics, I interviewed negotiators, I participated in a press conference with all these other members of the foreign press corps from CNN, ITV, Guardian, NBC. And I was just doing journalism around the country. And most importantly, I was able to report on the first phase of the war and the war crimes committed by my government. I think I was the first American reporter to visit a neighborhood in eastern Tehran where 40 people were massacred when the U.S. dropped eight bombs on an entire neighborhood. I went inside the ruins of a home where an entire family had been slaughtered except for two members who had been out of town.

I visited the Rafinia Synagogue, a Jewish congregation in Iran, which had been destroyed by Israeli bombing. Yes, Israel attacked a synagogue with two missiles. And the last time I went to Iran last year, I produced a documentary about the Jewish community in Iran. So this was of enormous interest to me. I went to the Gandhi Hospital, which had its ICU unit and IVF clinic destroyed in a U.S. bombing after the U.S. bombed the IRAB media complex across the street, targeting journalists. And I visited the Azadi Stadium, a volleyball and wrestling stadium, which hosted international competitions, which was bombed deliberately by the United States to ruins

as, you know, in kind of a preview of the DHS trying to rig the FIFA competition against Iran's national team by denying them entry. So I gained all this journalistic insight. Right, but my question of you would be what I think all of your critics say, which is, okay, but how much attention and reporting have you done on, for example, the many thousands of civilians that the regime in Iran brutally murdered in January, for example.

Have you been to the side of that? Have you been to investigate that? I did, and I'll get into that. I would directly address that, but let me just wrap up this point that I was making. While I was there, I was targeted by allies of the administration who were representing a foreign apartheid state, called Israel, the Canary Mission, for example, which is based out of a foundation in Jerusalem

called Megamot Shalom. It is not an American group targeted me, painting me as some kind of extremist who had gone to this funeral to honor Hamani when I went to report on it from my unique point of view. Laura Lumer not only called for me to be arrested and hauled off my flight and dared DHS secretary Mark Wayne Mullen, who has also been subject to Israeli and to do that, she called for me to be murdered along with every other journalist who is on the scene. She called for the United States military to massacre all funeral attendees, which would include me and all the journalists. She's a complete lunatic. She's a complete lunatic. But I... Well, let me, let me make this, let me respond to that. She may have been committed to a mental institution. That may be true.

But she's also very influential in the Trump administration. And she is responsible. And this is a confirmed fact, Pierce. She is responsible for the firing of the top Iran expert in the Trump administration, Nate Swanson at the NSC, who warned Trump that if the U.S. attacked Iran, Iran would close the strait of Hormuz. So she's taking responsibility. I have been very, very critical of this war from the start. I didn't see the point of it. I didn't say it could be anything about a fiasco.

I think it's been a fiasco. I think it's an ongoing fiasco. But in relation to the question I asked you, though, To establish credentials of journalistic impartiality, did you go to the scene of where the Iranian regime massacred its own people? First of all, I'm not impartial. I'm absolutely not impartial. I am not objective. And the concept of objectivity, as we understand it, is set out by the corporate media, according to the parameters devised for them by their militant Zionist ruling class owners. Did you go to the scene? I literally own the networks that you appear on and others appear on.

So I'm not impartial. I understand. To your direct question. To your direct question. And I really want to have a conversation about how this reflects on journalism and the Constitution. But to your direct question, you previously hosted me in January. And basically I was sandbagged.

I was sandwiched between, you know, a actual war criminal, Jonathan Conriqueus from the Israeli military and three Iranian monarchists. And I debated this very question. And I acknowledged that at least 3,000 people were killed in two days of protests, which the Israeli Mossad and U.S. intelligence have expressly taken credit for. Scott Besant, the Treasury Secretary explicitly took credit for faunting these riots by devaluing Iran's currency. The Iranian government has released the IDs and names of everyone who was killed there. 3,000 people is a lot of people, but they were not all just innocent protesters, and many of them were police officers. This all began with attacks on police stations.

And I was actually, while I was there, and I'm about to produce a report on this, able to interview some off-duty cops. I wasn't set up to meet them. I started a conversation with them. And they told me how their police stations came under attack, how police officers were burned and killed. Some were beheaded by the People's MEK, which is a CIA-backed militant organization. There were also Kurdish militant groups like Komaleh and Pijack, which were involved.

were militarized riots. They weren't innocent protests, and it was a bridge between the 12-day war from last year to the current war, which you say you opposed. But, you know, I watched you manufacture consent for that war by allowing people to lie about the number who were killed, claiming 40,000, 50,000. Well, I don't think you know how many, I don't think you know any better than they do, how many would kill. But I do know. And Iran International, which is a You know what the Iranian regime told you? No. Iran International, which is basically run by Israel and used to be run by the Saudis, has acknowledged that less than 5,000 were killed.

Again, it's a lot. I don't know the exact number, nor do you, nor do I don't think anybody else does. And hopefully one day we will find out. Okay, Pierce, what would the UK do if Russian intelligence and Chinese intelligence were arming rioters to attack police stations? You know what we wouldn't do? people. I do think... What do you think what happened in the UK?

What we were going to do is, you know, we were going to have you debate with somebody. Will Chamberlain wanted to do it. You didn't want to debate with him. He sent this message... I don't even know who that is. Is that like the basketball player? He's a regular guest on my show, and he's somebody who... And then you wanted me to debate like a pansexual former Disney actor.

I mean, I'm just going to read you. I deserve some respect. It's okay. You're not debating with me. But Will Chamberlain sent this message. Max Blumentars, a traitorous scumbag. and an apologist for the most evil regimes in the world. He shouldn't be surprised if custom officials

have some questions for him after he returns from doing a PR tour for a country we're conducting major military operations against. What would you have said if he'd said that to your face on it? Well, in a liberal democracy, you have to go before a judge and demonstrate suspicion of criminal activity to get a warrant.

What happened with me was a warrantless, illegal, unconstitutional seizure of my devices after foreign foreign lobbyists, proxies for a genocidal foreign state pushed a Trump administration, which is basically merged with that state, and I can discuss that in detail,

to seize my, to arrest me and harass me and seize my devices. There was no suspicion of criminal activity. If there was, all of my devices would have been seized, not just my phones. This is the violation of the First Amendment and the Fourth Amendment. And let me make just one point

about the UK your country versus the United States because my friend Dan Kovallek, who's a human rights lawyer, just had his devices seized coming into the UK. Sarah Wilkinson is a Palestine Solidarity activist who's going to trial in the UK for Twitter posts. Richard Medhurst is a British journalist

who's been prosecuted by the UK. My friend, the journalist Aesowind Stanley, had his home rated for suspicion of terrorism purely for his journalism. Hassan Piker and Jank Yugar, who are basically voices of the progressive wing of the Democratic Party banned from the UK. Jeremy Lofredo.

I'm sure you're aware. If you're not aware, you should be aware. The one thing that separates us from the UK is the Constitution. Listen, Max, I vociferously went into bat for Cheng Yuga of those names because he's been a regular on my show and I thought it was preposterous what happened to him. Final question because we run out of time. But we cannot allow ourselves to become the UK and the US. Final question.

And that's why. Max, final question. Final question. Just give me one bad thing about the Iranian regime. I will, but let me just say that I, we have filed a lawsuit. Just one bad thing. We have filed a lawsuit against the Department of Homeland Security. Okay, I get that.

Unis is leading this lawsuit for the Arab American anti-discrimination committee. Just to answer my question. And after that lawsuit was filed, my phones were returned and we're continuing the lawsuit. And what bad thing should I say about Iran? I mean... We'll see how it plays out. In answer to my question, give me one bad thing about the Iranian regime.

Maybe I would have liked the more diverse foods. Just one bad thing. I'm not a big kebab guy, but the kebab is great. Iranians are having a robust debate, and it's up to us to leave them alone, to have that debate, to reform within.

Iran is not... I get it, but just finally... Iran is not forcing the United States or compelling the United States to go to war. Israel is. Max. Just one more time. Give me one bad.

bad thing about the Iranian regime? I just did. What was it? I mean, what kind of game is this that one bad thing about Iran? Again, Iran is not our enemy. One bad thing about the regime? Iran is not, Pierce, Pierce, I'm not, I'm not Shia, okay? I'm not a religious conservative.

Can you think of any bad thing about the regime in Iran? I'm not going to play these orientalist games where I have to say what a bad thing is. you know, I'm a product of a liberal democracy like you are, and I'm not to judge them. And we are currently slaughtering their children, and you're asking me to say one bad thing. This really highlights, this really highlights the odious attitude of the US media,

where I'm supposed to say one bad thing about them. One? Only want one. Oh, are you going to get one? Do I get one? Can you think about one bad thing? about phone hacking because you were aware of phone hacking. You were found culpable for knowledge of hacking into phones.

Do you want to talk about that or do you want to play silly orientalist games? Everybody knows that. I mean, I already lost brain cells sitting through your interview with clavicular. So why do I have to play these silly games? I've only asked you to name one bad thing about Iranian regime. I've given you multiple opportunities to say one. You couldn't say one. I think viewers could.

Would you even call the regime? Max Blumetal, I've got to leave it there. I gave you multiple chances. You couldn't think of a single bad thing to say about the Iranian regime. You're going to leave it there. Would you call the UK regime? Would you call the UK regime? Would you call the UK regime?

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