Pod Save America - Offline: DeRay Mckesson on How Twitter Saved Black Lives

Episode Date: November 28, 2021

Offline is here to stay and the show has moved to its own feed. To listen to Jon's interview with DeRay Mckesson, and the many great episodes to come, search Offline with Jon Favreau and click subscribe. See you there!From the creation of #BlackLivesMatter to the first permanent ban, DeRay McKesson has been at the center of some of Twitter’s highest highs and some of its lowest lows. He joins Jon to talk about how online activism has changed since the 2014 Ferguson protests, discuss how to win people over offline, and make the case that Twitter can be a tool for good.

You had this great tweet from 2015 that I still think about sometimes. You said, Twitter is home. Facebook is grandma's house. Snapchat is your best friend's house. Tumblr is the computer lab. Instagram is 24-7 prom. Do you think, you know, what, six years later? Do all those comparisons still apply?

And are there any new categories? I think Twitter to me is still home. I think Instagram is definitely 24-7 prom. It's like, why is this? Why? But it's prom with video now. So that is, there was no video back then. That's true. Facebook is definitely still grandma's house. Tumblr is non-existent. So that'd be different. Bye Tumblr. I'm Jon Favreau. Welcome to Offline. Hey everyone. Exciting news. Offline is here to stay, and the show has now moved to its own feed. If you'd like to listen to my full interview with DeRay McKesson,

you can find it on that new feed. Just search Offline with Jon Favreau. Once you're over there, remember to subscribe to keep up to date with all of our upcoming episodes. We've got some exciting conversations ready to go over the next few months. I'll see you there.