Podcast: The Ride - 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea with Stoney Sharp

Episode Date: July 20, 2018

Stoney Sharp (Comedy Bang! Bang!) guides us on an thrilling journey to exotic locale: his childhood home of Central Florida. Also, we talk about the 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea ride. Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/ FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Aloha! Podcast The Ride is doing its first live show August 9th in Sherman Oaks, California in a beautiful abandoned sports authority with special guest Tony Baxter Can you believe, I still kind of can't believe it you two. Yeah, I can't believe it It's our hero who we've talked about on most episodes

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Gotta do it. And you'll get to see this amazing gallery of the collection of Richard Kraft, who we're also going to talk to as all this. You get to take photos with Dumbo cars and monorail innards. Gears, probably, too. Yeah, you know, with severed limbs from sea serpents from the submarine voyage. I don't know exactly what's there. It's things like that. The exhibition is free and is running for most of the month of August.

Tickets for separate events, like our show, again, $10. Or there's a signing with the artist shag. Paul Shearer is doing a show. Alan Menken is doing a show at the end of the month. This is starting to sound desperate. I think we should ease off the throttle and just let people enjoy going to our site. Good. Look in the show description.

You're going to come. It's going to be chill. You're going to have a great time. And. You're going to have a great time. And now you're going to have a great time listening to our regular episode. Warning. The following podcast may include monkeys performing dangerous stunts, an eye-popping 3D spectacular starring Judge Lance Ito, and four competing Peter Lorre impressions. We travel 20,000 leagues under the sea with director Stoney Sharp. It's a

whale of a podcast on today parks hosted by three guys who promised to one day learn some Spanish besides permanecer sentados por favor. Yo soy Scott Gairdner. Estoy aquí jason sheridan hi hi and right back to english he mike carlson um muchas gracias hey great and that's as far as we needed to go i guess oh yeah yeah so and only one park where you're gonna hear french uh uh yeah uh you know i guess i also know pac piernas from the safety instructions and other than that i'm uh i'm shot uh uh and uh joining us today very excited to have a a great a great director uh from comedy bang bang from the who was show on netflix and the director of one of my favorite uh funnier dive videos of all time ticklish cage uh it's stoney sharp hey that's awesome thank you

i really want to give you that superlative thanks i love that video too i still i still mention it often oh great hey as you should the great john daly john daly's amazing uh um yes some incredible scream work on his part do you know i heard i heard a story that um bob odenkirk saw that and halfway through he he had a straight face and halfway through he just like started laughing and he goes look at him wasting everybody's time oh man wow that's very exciting you know i did when i worked at conan the best like praise you could get on something like the way the sketches that would make conan turn like beet red where where he would then comment what a waste of everyone's time made me always made me incredibly happy uh uh to recognize but it had to be the right kind of as a bad sketch is

a waste of time too but not in that delirious uh wonderful way that some crazy sketch can be i mean like on bang bang we did we did two sketches that were like that i mean still like just thinking about one of them was uh don't look a gift horse in the mouth where they it was a game show where they would give a farmer a horse as long as he didn't look in the horse's mouth but for some reason these farmers couldn't resist the urge to look in their mouth if they did they would, they would lose the horse. It would go to the glue factory. And the other one was, oh my God, this one is, you made your bed now lie in it, where you had to make a bed, get into a bed, tell a lie,

and then a seasoned detective would tell you if you were lying or not. This variety of thing, breaking apart uh odd phrases and uh little spins of wordplay it's my favorite thing in the world if we had gotten one more season i was like what's it gonna be like don't put the cart before the horse is it gonna be you know like pod calling the kettle black do you know not to jump ahead and straight into our topic without doing our requisite 40 minutes of bullshit besides the topic but there was a it's it's related to there was a snl sketch about 20 000 leagues under the sea that's kind of this manner of sketch where it's just picking apart the phrase it was in the 90s it was with kelsey grammar uh as captain nemo

and phil hartman was kirk doug. And it was all about like everyone not understanding the, the 20 going 20,000 leagues under the sea is not depth. It's that's, uh, uh, mileage that's going forward. You're going forward 20,000 leagues as opposed to that. They kept like in the Peter used to not voice and stuff like,

so we're going 20,000 under the sea and he had to captain he wants to make a graph explaining if that's not true uh and they think that the squid when he shows up is 20 000 leagues long um is this one of those like the last sketch of the night i forget it might be familiar it feels like it could be that slot it's like i'm laughing a lot and you're getting kirk douglas and you're getting Kirk Douglas. So you're getting this amazing Kirk Douglas impression. Uh, Hartman's so crazy and great.

And then like, but the audience, it's just eating shit. And it's really bizarre to watch this clip now because like, like so often is like, here's a famous person. Everyone scream. And then like this old sketch is like,

is just silence for seven minutes yeah absolutely i mean that's every it's the best and the worst of saturday night live because it's like oh these industry professionals that are doing these amazing impressions and this set looks cool and it's actually something i like and it is like you say seven minutes of exactly the same joke yeah yeah yeah yeah uh uh yeah it's a little if there i think it's the kind of thing that you take that sketch and you do it in like a tighter pre-filmed way Yeah, it's a little, if there, I think it's the kind of thing that you take that sketch and you do it in like a tighter pre-filmed way and maybe it's not as patient as trying, but you can tell the audience is worn down and they're probably staring at the squid

getting set up and just wondering like, how's that going to work? But it's like, then it's a squid that's like worthy of the film. It's really amazingly done. It's a full Nautilus set. The whole thing is really remarkable. And the only people not buying it are the 150 people in that room that that reminds me like less in terms of like scope and execution but the in terms of like a comics comic sort of sketches the is it i will probably get it wrong fraud and malfeasance in the railroad industry oh yes that's a jack candy sketch with i think

george clooney uh-huh and it's just about like a a con on a railroad i don't even remember if if you find it's easy to find uh uh it was this weird pointless scene seemingly but a guy like applying for a job as a as an engineer on a train. Yeah. And then somebody walks in and who are you? And George Clooney jumps out the window. And then four minutes in, they announced that the sketch is called tales of fraud and maldeasance in the railroad industry.

I think if I'm recalling it correctly. Uh, yeah. Well, we clearly have soft spots in our hearts for these, the driest of comedy sketches. What was the St. Patrick's day one with Bill Hader this year? It driest of comedy sketches what was the saint patrick's day one with bill hater this year it was sort of like that was my favorite yeah it turns out to be

a liam neeson he turns out to be doing liam neeson but it's just him talking in an ominous voice and then beck bennett is just like a disgusting like pig person but it's just non-sequiturs uh i mean i kind of figured out why they did you when i'm sitting there watching it and i'm just dying when he goes that's pretty good for a mick like what a weird antiquated irish slur for my fine irish uh uh heritage but not long ago they're doing sketches where like you know like will ferrell is robert goulet and he's singing rap songs and he sings the n-word loud and proud they're so on but they they know it's a little weird but they laugh and laugh

i mean this one was noticeable because yeah it was another one where it's like three quarters of sketch goes by and then the premise is told you at the end. And it just seems like nonsense before. But it's all funny nonsense because you can just make Bill Hader say anything funny. Right, right. Sure. Wow. Well, we ended up,

it became a little comedy analysis podcast for a particular strand of it. Our version of it. That we all share. Tom Shale's oral retrospective live told by podcast the ride hosts but look let's get back on track we're talking about we're talking about rides and we're talking about the rides that you that you grew up with stoney and you grew up in florida correct i grew up in uh this is not an exaggeration i grew up in the weirdest part of Florida, which is saying something.

And I will throw this gauntlet down. Is that a phrase? Sure. I can out-Florida anyone that you talk to. And I guarantee it. I guarantee I can out-Florida anyone. I've seen the strangest things you could ever possibly imagine. I'm slightly older than you guys, so I remember probably a version disney that you were sold when you were really

little and you thought of like oh this is the i mean it is one of the greatest places but i i grew up in the i was sentient in the early 80s so i remember like all the all of them you know that that stuff uh i don't know where to go from this should i let's let me rewind back and tell you how i why i'm uh why i'm the the most floridian person yes so i grew up in a small town called macintosh it's a one square mile town named after a scottish guy who became chief of a small seminal indian tribe chief macintosh uh macintosh was was built around a small lake called orange lake which was known for two things one it's world's famous floating islands that moved around and two at least once every 20 years it drains overnight into a sinkhole the entire lake and then it will

slowly fill back up again where where does it go the aquifer things just disappear in florida wow my my next door neighbors i might have i was on a podcast and i talked about this a little bit but my next door neighbors made their money they made their living off of a circus act called the world's famous high-flying aqua mules where they trained donkeys to walk up a 30-foot tower and jump through a flaming loop into an above-ground swimming pool. Wow. They would do this twice. The first donkey comes up, super sad donkey, walks up the plank because he knows he's going to get the cattle prod if he doesn't,

jumps off a 30-foot tower into an above-ground swimming pool. Second donkey comes out, flaming loop erupts on the top of the tower. Walks up the tower. Jumps off a 30 foot tower into an above ground swimming pool. Third donkey comes out of the trailer. What's on his back? A little saddle.

What's in the saddle? A tiny monkey dressed as a cowboy strapped into the saddle. No way. Screaming. But from a distance, it looks like he's trying to get his guns ready. What he's trying to do is guns ready what he's trying to

do is untie himself so so he goes up the tower with the the music playing the monkey and the donkey jump through the flaming loop going against every instinct that an animal could possibly have doing a belly flop into above ground swimming pool and then they reward the monkey with a lit cigarette. Oh, a delicious treat. A big finish at the end there. This is wild. This is an old, I've seen video of just the donkey in the swimming pool. I think that's a classic attraction. But these people are innovators, obviously, by adding the fire and the monkey to it.

Because I've never seen that. They're still doing it in Texas. They are. That should be illegal. It's illegal in florida now which is saying something but atlantic city boardwalk had uh high diving horses uh really far too no i didn't see but i think like early 90s is when they finally stopped i could be wrong but it went like from what i've read about it's it's it's longer than you think that it kept going and they're still at you they're still at it the same family in texas well i mean patty and tim if

you're listening uh i haven't talked to you in a while uh i hope this doesn't offend you tim went to prison for a little while for illegally trading jaguars uh they had uh they had every kind of zoo animal you could imagine in in horse behind horse fences so they had when i was really little they had the primate barn these by the way are simple folk this is you know this is simple folk in the in the back in the country these are not wealthy people with large fit this is not jurassic park this is like the way you think of florida so so they're easily uh escapable these are not high-tech facilities for these animals comfortable facilities i mean it happened often it would be like my mom's name is jane and my brother's name is ben it'd be like bring bring jane uh better get stoney and bb inside the house monkeys loose again and then looking out the back window and

just monkeys running around flipping around doing flips on our like you know like a above ground swimming pool and stuff like that and then but the thing about them is that they were like locked on their eyes were locked on to us so they were very serious faces while they were doing whimsical things very scary staring you down yes wow those were chimps those were not the spider monkeys and the capuchins that did the donkey show those were scary so how many total animals did these people have roughly they had they had the bear that used to do bear wrestling at county fairs until he figured out how to undo his muzzle they had they had when i was really little they had five chimpanzees then that they didn't do that anymore they had spider monkeys they had uh let's see they had five chimpanzees. They didn't do that anymore. They had spider monkeys.

They had, let's see, they had two camels. They always had camels. They had a gnu. They had a bramble. They had two ostriches, two zebras. They had, oh, this part's sad. Oh, okay. This other part has been so happy.

They had a white horse that had a surgical procedure so he had a horn coming out of his head so he had a unicorn oh god but I don't think that they were allowed

to show that in public so here I was then who was it for it was for them it was for the pleasure of having a unicorn oh my god what is the doctor

which doctor installs a horn on a horse and just as a side note, just so you guys don't think I'm a psychopath, my father is an equine reproductive physiologist and he taught at the University of Florida and my mom is a violinist.

So we lived far out in the swamp so he could be near the research farm, but I was surrounded by, I was like a swamp child. I grew up a swamp child. If I can take a moment to correct myself the diving horse at the atlantic city steel pier only went to the 1970s not the 1990s apologize to the diving horse for jason's mistake the still on your ipad is uh quite upsetting uh hey in this case we uh horse diving straight down jesus in this case

i'll say don't go to our twitter to see a picture of a horse being forcibly dropped eventually replaced by casinos which were then replaced by empty casinos and now replaced by casinos yet again so you're a swamp child surrounded by animals. But it was also the height of magical tourist Florida, right? So if I geographically, if I started my house where the nearest attractions would be, it would go like this. Next door neighbors, flying aqua mules. Then eight miles away was a high lie.

Uh, then, then, you know, 16 to 20 miles away was showbiz pizza. Oh, yeah. With the rocket fire.

Of course. Wow. 16 old miles though. What a rough. I mean, that's why we didn't go that often. Then, uh,

there was, uh, silver Springs, six gun territory, wild waters, wiki watchiki wachi wait you're blasting through those though i don't know i don't know silver springs no silver springs uh is home of the glass bottom boats um it's like uh it's sort of a it's sort of more of a victorian attraction so it's you know at the turn of the century, that was the, that's what Florida was.

It was a place where you'd go for attractions, but generally it was to see these crystal clear rivers and springs and these sort of like jungle cruises. So, so these glass bottom boats, which are still operating today, you would get in them and you'd cruise this crystal clear river. And you've seen this river that they like anytime you've seen a underwater fight scene in a natural setting like every one of the 1930s tarzan series or james bond when he's fighting a you know boa constrictor underwater or creature from the black lagoon uh they filmed all that at silver springs wow and when they were uh when they were filming the tarzan uh series in the 30s they released

just so many of these small monkeys that are still to this day in the ocala national forest and you'll hear them coming and it sounds scary like a like a what is it called when locusts come out like a swarm a swarm of small monkeys and they'll they'll come in the treetops and then they start throwing rocks and seeds at you wow i think i forget i should take a second and mention that like i think of disney and universal i think i fly into there it's in orlando i fly into orlando uh fly into mco and uh go to these parks to use the i-4 like corridor yeah uh sometimes forget like oh this is smack dab and what is potentially the weirdest state in the nation oh easily i mean i i've never seen any place stranger than florida no no i mean because like i say it's like the dark side of freedom if the great

american experiment is to say that we as individuals are free the people in florida go oh i'm free to do what i like to do perfect that's everyone in florida let's see how much you believe in this whole american dream thing what how was what was your process then of realizing this was all strange i mean you must have no i mean there's no world in which the diving mule uh exhibit next door is not bizarre but like how did you like unfloridify yourself or have you uh it's a duality um you know like i said you know my my parents are academics and i went to uh i went to a school in gainesville a couple 20 miles north but i also spent every summer in boston so so i'd never spent a summer in the worst of florida you know what i mean so i was you know and i would travel with

my parents the places so i was worldly and also very swampy um so and he was your dad was there for work so so he like it was a specific reason in mind he knew it was odd and he taught you it was odd however i mean this is another whole thing he he also is he considers himself a sort of and rightly so as sort of uh an indiana jones type he was uh he was uh the quick draw champion of the Southeast like seven years ago. And he's 65. Wow. He's one of the best larionettes in the state of Florida.

Sounds like he is Indiana Jones. Yeah. Florida Jones. Professor, yeah. I mean, I'm not going to get to it. I think he might be a spy because he worked for the vienna international center sometimes and we would go like on trips to like yugoslavia right before it wow right before the war and places like why are you going here yeah it's just a family trip to

yugoslavia they just want me to lasso some things in yugoslavia so um so yes i i grew up in an unusual very floridian very indiana jones sort of yeah wild i also i don't think i realized that there was a history of bizarre attractions in florida preceding disney world and that that helped uh influence but you know i i think i thought disney world is there because there's a ton of land there and i i don't think i knew there was this you know there was a place for oddities already absolutely there was um like i said there was silver springs uh cypress gardens is famous you've seen cypress gardens before because it's the um oh oh what's the what's the what's the um projection process at the arc light um the cinerama process you know when people are like water skiing and there's like a there's a tower

of oh yeah ten people on top of each other water skiing that's cypress garden so that was you used to just the disneyland of the 1920s was going to cypress gardens and seeing like ladies dressed up as southern bells walking amongst the flowers wow sure wow there's also gardens kind of stuff sure okay and there's wiki watchy which is uh that's still active today and next time you guys go to florida i highly recommend checking it out because it can't last it's um it's uh ladies that dress up as mermaids and they go and they do like routines so you're oh yeah yeah you're like under the ground and you're looking through this aquarium and like it's a tent like it's a yeah they used to have well they did the day the mermaids in disneyland but they

didn't have any sort of way you could see them under the air tanks it's like you have to train how to swim with the tails and like is there a restaurant attached i'm sure there must be there should be and that manatees will just come into that area so it's you know manatees and mermaids and this is all like two i forget that there's like a whole genre of of like books that i've read some of like weird southern misted like carl hyacinth and john d mcdonald the travis mcgee books and some of the elmore leonard books are set like in that and and it's like it's it's very easy uh to find interesting backgrounds to put like heists or small crime next to an ad character oh yeah absolutely i mean you know there's a lot of serial killers there's a lot of like crazy crimes there's a lot of like you can what my my buddy um arnie and i what we used to do for fun is we would explore this cave in newberry that i mean you you

would you would walk in through the back of i guess in the 50s some farmer didn't want beatniks going into the cave anymore so he crashed a tractor into the hole and then he that somehow didn't keep the beatniks out so he crashed a school bus into the hole then a tree ripped the back of the school bus open so the way to get into this cave was to walk in through the back of a 1950s school bus past the tractor which is now 20 feet underground keep climbing down through a nightmarish crawl space which then opens up into a 30 foot domed cave with an underground lake with albino crayfish and shackles on the wall which looked like they're from pirate time and just these passageways that you could just crawl for hours my god incredible so wild disney world

did you spend any time at church street station excuse me church street station terror on church street it was the first uh year-round haunted house that i'd ever seen wow rosie o'grady's yes i did i did i think i had like a Shirley Temple there Sure What's the balloon one? The Phineas Foggs hot air balloon Oh, that's right Wow, was it Jules Verne themed? Yeah, yeah It was a balloon, I could look it up

Phineas Are you in a balloon? Phineas We're pining for church street station although we've we have not been is it still there it's kind of a little decade we got into it in our pleasure island episode phineas fogs yes yes uh yeah which i only know because there's this bizarre opening of a uh i don't know the real around the world in 80 days i know this cartoon one where there's a lion uh and then and there's a you guys just watched the intro on youtube it's a really bizarre song where he's this lion marching along in clothes sings fog i'm the one who made the bet

he like chose his own name at the top it's a really strange Gairdner. I'm going to tell you about myself, and that's how I start. Recommend it. Around the world in 80 days. I believe there was an animated 20,000 Leagues in the 90s, too. I feel like I saw that in the suggested videos column doing research for this episode. It seems like one of these properties that has like the league of fantastic extraordinary gentlemen they try yeah yeah they're always trying and they never quite they never quite

get it yeah all of these this type of hg wells and uh and jules were in both it seems like they yeah they'll they'll be attempts at making these movies but see sometimes with kind of an unpleasant 2001 type sheen not the film but the year uh you know like league of extraordinary gentlemen is that's sort of like an unpleasant early 2000s movie well yeah and it's so interesting because i've read a lot of those comics and they're so like there's such a striving to have like period appropriate storytelling and like scratchy almost wood cut looking art this wonderful comics artist kevin o'neill doing the art and then the movies are just like alan quarter made like pulling up like lock and load like tom sawyer with a gun so intense although one of the few uh portrayals of captain nemo where he is indian that's true

in the novels uh there was an omar sharif captain nemo uh movie or miniseries too i don't think i realize that he's a he's a whitewashed character in most of the media i i think in the books they get into like he was a an indian prince who fled his country after a failed uprising and stuff uh but usually portrayed by like a james mason yeah proper british gentleman uh uh yeah well i guess we could start moving into this neck of the woods since we're here anyway is this too crazy am i out to all over the place with this florida stuff no no no i'm worried i'm skipping so feel free to go backwards. I think you're our first

Florida resident on the show. So were you before we get in like 1977 or no, excuse me, 72 when Disney opens, were you there around one?

No, no, no. 82 for Epcot. That that's what i'm yeah that's what you're thinking move there in the wrong year my parents moved there before i was conceived uh of course i think in 1970 i want to say maybe 1971 yeah and the reason i know this is because my mom got this thing in the mail that said, Disney World is opening. And for $200, we'll give you this license with your picture on it. And it will be a lifetime pass to Walt Disney World.

Holy shit. And she was like, $200? It's so incredible. It was one of those. Wait, would they honor that today is this how do they not i mean unless unless they just go like we're just not anymore which is possible they'll do those things what about that wasn't there that airline that like had that that um frequent flyer deal where you just buy you get like a hundred thousand dollars and you get two

seats forever and that one guy took such advantage of it that they ended up having to like there's a lot of millions of dollars right right right so you have to do it yeah i'm sure yeah there's all these versions of these where no one thought like early on i just got an thing for the warner brothers dubai land that says that you if you pay the price right now that it'll'll still be locked in forever. Of course, chances are that's going to close in two years, so it's not going to be so worth it. But who knows? Maybe it'll be the greatest theme park on earth,

and we're making a big mistake not doing it. This could be the best investment you could make. And all you have to do is fly to Dubai often. Yeah. To make it worth it. That's easy. No problem. So you're aware it looms large as it's how wait how far

we're how far are you uh i'm two oh two hours north we would go once or twice a year um yes i you know i grew up going to disney obviously when i was little and then i pretty much i i went to epcot on the opening like week maybe like the fourth day i wouldn't even take the monorail to epcot and just to watch the we're getting ready for you video which i suggest you guys check out which is pretty awesome and was it in some like preview center kind of spot the the monorail would take you to spaceship earth or basically to the monorail stop and you could see this construction wow and then they would just get everybody and just show you this video we're getting ready for you wow oh my god very psyched and i i feel like once epcot opened i don't think i i don't think i went to disney for

a very long i was highly obsessed with epcot and then um full-time epcot when you got down there understandably it's new you've done all the other stuff there's not a lot of new stuff happening in the magic kingdom i guess in those like i'm trying to think what would have gone in in the early 80s not until like 90s tomorrowland you know yeah 90s is kind of the big resurgence and i guess when i think of like exciting 80s 90s disney stuff it's disney mgm studios and pleasure island and things but like magic kingdoms sort of uh you know just what it is for a long time so also disney mgm studios and pleasure island and things but like magic kingdoms sort of uh you know just what it is for a long time so also obsessed with mgm studios which goes back to what we were talking about earlier where that you know the spielberg and lucas concept of

selling filmmaking as an adventure yeah oh yeah you were saying well this is before we started recording right then you like uh yeah your theory that uh uh wait that filmmakers are like the last like at some point in the 80s uh filmmakers became the adventurers that we idealize instead of who lucas and spielberg growing up i'd grow up idealizing yeah because lucas didn't you have the over the hill theory where you needed to have a you needed to set an adventure where your subject like goes over that hill in the distance and goes on an adventure but oh okay sure but so we i feel like we we ran out of hills you know there's no true adventures left in the world so they started marketing being a filmmaker as an adventure

which is i mean ridiculous but it worked we all bought it yeah we also have that other great adventure what it's like to be a stand-up comedian the greatest tale that can be told and uh 70 things yeah the set went bad what's gonna happen now you gotta pay dues oh man sorry kid you got bumped oh no not again the red light what's that oh boy uh uh yeah hey who's to say there's not adventure left in the world but uh but you know yeah you're you're there in the early 80s and when the future is now. The future was born on October 1st, 1982, as a shirt I wear says. And you're like, oh God, you're right there

for when it's like glistening new. I'm very jealous of that. I feel like I, oh, my old show was kind of like, my cartoon was sort of like, if you could do like, me idealizing what Epcot was probably like in the early 80s uh uh so yeah what do you what do you know what was it like it was just like i mean it just had a sort of a a sheen to it you know everything was sparkling and new and anything that was sort of like grayish but kicked rainbows when the light hit it had rainbows now it's like you know dull

and chipping and so this whole place was like and there was tons there were tons of like that you know did you guys see that video of the the uh what's his name um he's got figment the imagination dream the dream finder he was walking around you know and you'd talk to him and really was so many different kinds of like weird robots that would talk to you because that was sort of new you know the ability to like remote control a big shiny new robot that would be like

hmm you know do you know you can get your reservations to eat at Japan who is the smart one is that the name? Smart one he's on Communicore with the big eyes right the huge eyes purple dress boxy old robots my favorite thing and just I mean is that the name? Smart one. He's on CommuniCore. With the big eyes, right? The huge eyes. Purple dress. Yeah.

Oh, boxy old robots. My favorite thing. And just, I mean, yeah, it was wonderful. It was wonderful. And it was also very, it felt very academic. I was like,

oh, the future's gonna be great because this seems like a place of learning. I mean, I was very young, but it seemed like, it seemed like, wow, we're all, everybody all,

we're all on the same page and the future's gonna be people that are excited about learning and now it's, it doesn't feel like, we're all, everybody, we're all on the same page, and the future is going to be people that are excited about learning, and now it doesn't feel like that so much. But you were into the educational aspects? Very much. Wow. Totally.

I feel like I've never heard this perspective, because even I, as a kid, was like, my Epcot enjoyment is kind of, in retrospect, like, I didn't like going there as a kid too much, and I started really, that became my spot probably in the 2000s. But, yeah, what did you like? What was your, what were your pavilions? We're talking, I mean, I don't even know if I can rank it. I guess what I'll say is if I immediately think about it, of course I'm going to start with the Universe of Energy

because the line is going to be shorter and i like the way it smells it's got that weird smells like barbecue the dinosaur ride oh did it i don't know like the burn like it's the volcano right yeah they would add this weird smell it was very very pungent and then then horizons which was my favorite ride horizons is that's a whole you guys need to do a whole episode yeah i mean that's horizons much that i think that's one of the big ones that's a major that is a big one that is in around 20 uh 23 i'm not gonna say anything about it because yeah that's that's very what if we did it where you could at the end you could choose a different path into what episode. That's what I love to see. I love choosing. And I,

but I don't remember which was my favorite. I probably space, space or underwater. Like I've never, I guess I like the desert a little more now. Cause it's kind of like a popular one, you know, two hour drive as a vacation destination in Southern California.

But as a kid, I southern california but as a kid i was like no deserts are that's where it's just cactuses and people die there don't forget don't forget uh the desert had and i feel like i'm starting to step on horizons here the desert had uh much like soren it shot the smell of oranges in your face because it was a terraformed desert that's covered in orange groves wow Wow. Oh, right. Okay. This is why, you know, I've been meaning to bring this up on the show. Doug Jones, who was a guest on the show and a Horizons expert, wrote a big article about it. He had a big complaint about our show, and maybe other listeners have been stewing on this as well.

He told it to me very effusively, almost in the way, you know tweets have the claps between the words it was almost like that and he spelled it out like watching a ride through is not the same as going on the ride well sure you know in some cases we have no choice right in other cases we have wimped out rides, and the only alternative is to watch the ride-throughs. But thinking about, you've just listed several examples of smells in rides that I had not heard of, and this is why it's, I mean, I went on both of those as a kid, but I wasn't taking notes. I didn't know there was a podcast coming 30 years down the line.

What's a podcast, mister? I mentioned this on our text chain. My family found a video of me at age 12 goofing on the Universe of Energy. Making fun of it? I was making fun of it. Because I said, well, then we saw a subtitle, then we watched a movie for a while.

And I was like, whoa, I don't remember it that way. Because I don't even remember. I said it probably on the episode of Universe of Energy. I didn't have such a great memory of going on the ride. But there I am goofing on it. I'll get this. I'll upload this eventually. Because actually the Universe of Energy starts with a movie.

Yeah, it starts with, right. I mean, I don't know if I was confused at the time. There's two movies, really. And then Cue the Dinos. Oh, because who does it now? Is it Ellen DeGeneres? Well, it's done now. It's over.

Oh, is it really? Yes. It's going to be Guardians of the Galaxy. Well, I mean, I guess it was basically promoting Exxon, so I shouldn't be mad. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's not about Exxon. I still miss it so much. I'm not picky about it.

And a very hideously out-of-date version of ellen and the and the her the animatronic which she when the ride closed she brought it out on the show and was like so horrified by her own like non-visage she like even she like can't she's like can we get this out of here i don't even want to do this as a bit this is this is gone uncanny valley yeah yeah yeah how they wish if they were they could sculpt that at uncanny valley levels so so then so let's see if i if i'm if i'm going yeah you're ideal yeah if i'm going clockwise is new if we transport to 82 83 so we pretty much i feel like we always went clockwise although i can't imagine a world where i would have let my dad bring us to the world showcase before seeing

the land and imagination but i'm just gonna say i'm gonna say we're doing it clockwise just because that's the way i think so so then mexico which i still think is the most successful immersive non-ride experience in all of the parks that i have seen huh just that that interior that you walk into that temple and then just like oh i'm outside and there's volcanoes and it does still look great you can't see the ceiling dark enough you can't see the ceiling yeah that's important unlike your small world although i've realized i besides passing through it because it was never really my family's thing the pictures i've seen at their german beer hall look pretty cool not on the level of mexico

but i'm like oh i should see what that's like sometime do you have any memories so fun it's so fun because my uncle was obsessed with germany because he liked porsches so we would go my uncle howard uh so we would go when he was in town we'd go to germany and it was super fun they do all kinds of dancing and singing and like dads are chugging beer and like it's got a very like very boisterous environment where everything else is a little bit more chill that place was like people are screaming and going crazy so uh also after mexico for five years maybe more there was a sign saying coming soon africa africa yeah so psyched really i think it's uh hayley right? The Roots author? Oh, Alex Haley.

Yeah, Alex Haley. In one of the Epcot TV specials, they interviewed him about, yes, we're working with, this pavilion's going to be great. This is, yeah, it's going to be really good. And it just never happened. Yeah, because I want to say it was like,

maybe Zimbabwe. Because, you know, it's got to be, usually it's one country that sponsors it. But they were going to try and do a whole continent. That feels like a very American, white, Eurocentric viewpoint. Yeah, that seems problematic because that's a continent. Like, lots of countries and Africa. You got this. All of you need to fit in this. Yeah.

I don't think that would have been a little problematic and complicated too yeah if they still had it yes uh uh the was that is that where norway ended up being norway no because then it was japan or china then it was china china yeah then it was japan where i saw pat marita and my dad said mr marita it would be our honor if you would let me and my sons dine with you and he said no but that's what happens when you get famous people and you have just sort of every everyday people going like oh you're my friend because uh you know we love the karate kids so we're familiar right boy so let's actually i'm gonna make this a specific day because let's say that we then ate in japan which we did that's where my i'd always go my dad then norway which

didn't have the ride yet the maelstrom is that what it's called yeah that's right was it there without the ride it was called it was without the ride and then it was without trolls i think or maybe it did have trolls and now it's something that much I haven't seen the frozen yeah no it's frozen so then Germany and America and Italy and France you know you just sort of like let's go let's go come on you know Morocco's what a diss of the American adventure wonder they're wonderful we would see that if as long as we had seen imagination in the land then we would say America we hadn't we'd be like the clock's ticking let's go now let's go as you're saying this i'm realizing i don't know if i've ever been in world showcase

in the morning i feel like that was always like well we gotta do some future world stuff then we'll go to world showcase right like the sun setting it's beautiful yes it looks very nice although i did find out at some point i don't know if this is still the case but you can go in because world showcase always opens second. Future World always opens first in the morning. But you can go in the back entrance of the park, the International Gateway. You can go in a little before opening, because the bakeries, like the French bakery, I think, is open for breakfast.

And you've never been there in the morning? And I've never been it. Because I just, I found out, I think, after I was there. Treats in the i found out i think after i was there i know what's wrong with you i know you're a fraud i just i just found out that there was another entrance i think for you guys yeah like oh like the international gateway that's amazing yeah it's near italy or something it's uh where is it it's between the end of the uk It's kind of a gray zone. And then you go to Yacht and Beach Club and Boardwalk back there, those hotels. And it's a lovely little walk.

And as I've said many times now, you go have a drink at the Abracadabra, my favorite bar in Disney World. Wow. This is a newer establishment. Can anyone go there? Anyone can use the internet. Carrying magicians only presto change oh you're doing magic right now no audience can't see it but i'm a magician i think a point of clarification i think we blew through international gateway talk in the past because someone had messaged us and said anyone can use that it's not just for hotel guests

i think what we were saying was that like yeah if you're staying at the hotels by that entrance, it's very convenient. Right. And then I think I said that there was a boat from Hollywood Studios to Epcot. And you said, no, it was to the hotels. But then someone clarified that, yes, indeed, you could take a transfer boat. So we were both correct about that. You guys got in a little snippy fight. We did get into it

yeah also some of those policies may have changed in between uh 1995 and uh 2018 but you have to keep up on the policies especially an aspiring disney politician as yourself well that's not your jurisdiction it's not my jurisdiction at all be aware of the sister parks anyway we've interrupted your day no no i i feel like i'm doing too much epcot but i love it very much i very i like here and the idea you also by the way are mentioning things that we do we have not we have not really talked about mexico we have not we yeah we're heading to things we haven't we haven't talked a lot about canada or a lot of these if on this podcast you do full episodes on all these rides think of this brief the think of this brief uh overview as

the map to looking at the map so it's like the preview center we're all wait what was this what are they saying in the in the previous center video we're waiting for you we're getting ready for you i was like oh my god you went to go see that multiple times just that and then leave yes i say that i absolutely would have done because it's a large chunk of your day right getting all the way over that whole ride absolutely i mean just imagine seeing the dome with you know half of it is this weird stucco and half of it is the silvery uh this is so that's amazing you're mocking me how much i want to we're doing it now we go to star we go We go to Disneyland and look at the fake rocks at Star Wars Land. That's a thing we like to do.

So I can imagine, hypothetically, especially now that Epcot is so iconic and beloved, thinking to go and see it being constructed is just, we are so excited thinking about it, I think. The way that you guys feel is how I feel about seeing the Columbia exhibit in Chicago. You know, the Chicago World's Fair that inspired Walt Disney to make a theme park. And inspired H.H. Holmes to complete his work. And both are my heroes for two different reasons. Both very driven men. Both built very distinct castles.

They had visions. They had visions they build an immersive environment that generate emotion so uh so then we'd go always we'd go to the um canada circle theater because we loved the song and this was before martin short uh-huh uh and on the day that we saw pat marita and ate in japan then we went to the circle theater and i threw up in the middle of the middle of the place i'm very shy i was very shy i would never like throw up in public and i threw up right in the middle of like all of the circle theater it was just too much whoa did you get the like people recoiling and backing up and yes luckily it was at the very end i'm like i think i i did it i made i made it i made it through the whole thing i feel really so and then the doors opened did it surprise you total surprise that's

never i don't think that's happened since where i didn't think i was gonna throw up and then i did huh and this is in the it's in it's in the circle vision theater and they do if you haven't been to a disney circle vision movie in a while there are rails that you hold and i was like in case you were gripping i was holding onto the rail right and i remember looking down i mean like i still feel bad and then so yikes those things are there's something weird about uh those things for sure and just imagine the because they're shot on 70 millimeters so just the the the equipment to film those things must be beautiful yeah yeah uh yeah the like yeah okay real technical feats for sure but also yeah like

those things because there's no like uh digital stitch up points really so probably some of those cameras would get kind of out of way i do remember like odd odd lines and stuff yeah but they'd overlap and it'd feel ghosty and yeah yeah yeah i could see why it would like bug you out is what i'm saying but i guess like in the 80s if i think back uh if i could you know with with uh being able to look back in the 80s the thing that there was different then was you could be completely earnest about something you know what i mean like there was no a crowd in the circle theater of canada wouldn't be like a movie what is this one you know what i mean like it was just like oh wow all right great we're gonna learn about canada and like the whole

audience would be on board like taking notes like you could be like a muscle guy in the 80s with like a sleeveless shirt and like sunglasses and you could make like flex your bicep and kiss your bicep and look at somebody and not be joking like it was like that's the difference of the 80s you could be completely the sincerity earnest and sincere yeah it's better now it's better now than it was then but that's that was the difference culturally well but maybe like i think what i i like trying in a supremely snarky time and when commercials are all like uh are all little riffy joke machines and stuff wouldn't it be funny if we ate at carl's junior or whatever oh yeah yeah even yeah brands present themselves ironically it's also strange but like that that deeply earnest way that ads used to be the Epcot movie. You're talking about the church street station ad that we talked about in the

pleasure Island episode. Yeah. So like, so, so deeply earnest. And that, that, I think that might be a lot of what, uh, uh, you know, excites me about old Epcot. It seems like, you know, like that, I understand why they would do, let's get a comedian in this ride and never kind of make fun of the dinosaurs totally makes sense as a 90s turn but oh my god the 80s where you didn't need that people would just like it's a beautiful score these robots are very well rendered yeah it is the swing in the 90s is so hard too because i mean eric idols on figment

barn short goes into Canada Ellen goes on you know like everyone was reacting to it like well no one wants to be sincere anymore everyone wants snark everyone wants funny we'll get the funniest people and they'll make the funniest jokes on our rides from now on a swarm of comedians yeah like

the park just like the monkeys invaded Epcot Center and a few of them are still in there send in the last great adventurers of our time stand up comedians

so let's see so then I think I think Canada ends also Canada those when you're in that little area with the waterfalls

and the cliffs and you're looking up little area with the waterfalls and the cliffs and you're looking up at the Quebec building, very beautiful. Very, very beautiful. And the Morocco Pavilion across from it. Also beautiful. Delicious food. Really incredible architecture. With the tile work, it's just a masterpiece.

Look how earnest we're being. We got the Epcot spirit. I worry coming on here because I have no snark towards these places. I love them so much. We got the Epcot spirit. I'm worried coming on here because I have no snark towards these places. I love them so much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, sometimes we do and sometimes we don't. I think we like ragging on some weird bad thing or like food rocks is silly. But I think it is a fear we have sometimes.

It's like, do we just love this? There's not a lot to complain about. I mean, we don't talk too much about it. Well, I guess we always talk about ourselves. people just i mean we don't talk we don't talk too much about well i guess we always talk about ourselves but i mean we don't talk we're not analyzing ourselves but when i hear people talk about the show that we do they do talk about our sincerity which i don't know that i necessarily know that i'm doing it i also feel like i'm really being flippant about this stuff but apparently i'm just like i love this stuff so much i love it like that's really what it's coming off as well those moments every one of those moments is worth 10 little jabs i think i guess they shine brighter i think maybe maybe it's because

because these things are precious to you and so they're worthy of criticism interesting maybe i think well also like just uh uh just what it's just what you like and what you believe like i mean i think a lot of people if you if you corner someone to go like what do you believe like what do you what's your whole what are you all about like people will often clam up and shut down or like sure yeah why do you believe in god you know like here's a walk around character i don't want to say yeah this is atheist accuser what is epcot's new character like a new atheist guy i guess they sell books sincere man yeah but know, you come up to me on the street, point at me, ask what you believe.

I think I would spit back as fast as I could upon getting my bearings. I believe that the future began on October 1st, 1982. Well, that's what your full back tattoo says. Let me flex it for you guys. Very good. Everybody get a view? All right, great. Wait, but we've looped back around to... let me flex it for you guys very good everybody get a view all right great um uh wait but we've looped back around so then just quickly just doing the circle of um

i mean i'm not going to spend time on imagination that was probably the most important thing to me uh at the park uh the land which was a close second i come see my garden guys in eagle rock because it's all inspired by the land wow hydroponics i've got hydroponics really wild wait you're this is because this is another level this is i love i love the land i love it very much we've heard of many you know uh michael jackson uh old singer bobby sherman they make their main street in their backyard they recreate the famous disney main street but i have yet to hear anyone recreate the land loved itved it. Wow. The one I'm trying to, which I will someday do when I retire from this industry, when I'm 70,

I hope, will be the one where the fish live under the water and the fish fertilizes the plants, but then the plant plants drop stuff and it feeds the fish. And it's sort of like this cycle that goes forever. Oh, I think you can buy very low key, like tabletop versions of that yeah i'm into that

i want to try that and then the eels anyway so yeah wow wow um what wasn't it you guys you just did the one about the cabaret the the kitchen that's an example of one that even when i was little my dad would be like you guys don't want to do that one do you it was like no don't worry about it don't worry so we did not do you could feel it yeah okay so you don't mind that we snarked about that one that's outside the purview i was like that's that's that's talking down to me yeah sure sure uh yeah they they know how much me a kid likes uh the 40s vaudeville music and uh food vocal tree but even as we're saying this now like this stuff of like yeah we we made some jokes about but if someone said like hey do you want to get in a car and go to that

right now i got like yes absolutely i'd rather be doing that than pretty much anything else see a sultry what tomato who is the going like hey boys you want to learn about some whatever they um i forget already depends on what your tastes are i mean anything in that show could really be i was gonna say there's a couple uh sexy characters i mean bonnie appetit i think is uh the safe choice people probably found that milk carton kind of handsome yeah that's the reason he stuck around and was in food rocks too but he was called dairy man what was it called uh uh mr dairy goods i believe was his name just a normal human saying about this podcast it's all snark the other thing that i would also be snarky about back then would

be something seemed like pandering to me about oftentimes about parades or like spectaculars unless it was a night spectacular so during the day they would do this spectacular that was like lots of purple smoke and explosions and airboats and like ah the evil dragon men have come to steal our imagination cube you know like that people would literally parachute into the show with smoke on their parachutes and i'd be like this is a little silly so like that that i wasn't into i would just i don't know about this one was that an early thing yes it's called like just look up what it's i mean all i can think of is like phantasmic but that's not it obviously it was something like it was kind it was done by like interventions right like sort of by the fountain and all it might have been yeah it was right in the center of the lake it would multiple boats

and like i think it's huge oh wait no this is different oh okay because high speed boats going all around the lake we gotta we gotta see this because this is this other one where mickey is learning to harness the power of water right and he like summons an army of people on stilts and they're so they're all very tall and they're all wearing metallic mickey shaped uh armor armor on their chests. And then a robot dragon appears and shoots fire. This might have been it. I don't think so. I think this was a 90s thing, though.

Well, the boats were dragon heads. So whatever you find, the boats are dragons' heads, and they're going very fast. This was like a dragon head but like poking out of a planter so uh like it hid in just in a big planter in that epcot uh you know garden area so it could have been a reprise a repeated dragon head but finding out that there are multiple dragon related shows in epcot history what a delight because that was big in the when the epcot opened was the whole colorful smoked i remember that being oh purple oh green smoke so that was also i didn't like daytime fireworks you just saw a quick flash and then it was mostly the

smoke after i wasn't oh yeah i wasn't into that so and then the last thing that opened at epcot that i was excited about and felt really rewarded was uh the living sea oh that's right it was a little later seas 86 i think it was that was the last thing that i was like a little while i can't believe this is gonna open and when it did i was like i can't believe how great it is oh sure see like those sea cabs i was so into it that's the thing that why my wife uh thought she didn't like epcot because the one time she went they would they the first thing they went on were the sea cabs and her dad was like this place sucks sea cabs and they left immediately and until we met she assumed epcot was bad and i was like no but there's this whole thing where it's the future but it's from the 80s and you just you gotta check it out so the sea cabs

uh spoiled her experience but uh um i don't know that was before they turned it into now nemo now nemo are in the in the sea cabs yeah see that's uh uh my family had the opposite in that like the restaurant in that pavilion we were all jazzed every trip we would eat at the living seas restaurant i think that is the first and one of the few places i've ever eaten turtle at uh no they had turtle soup as you could look at turtle you were like the shredder yeah one of the uh turtle soup yeah this is that is a story i think i've told uh to some people are surprised by like how many first food experiences I remember having at Disney World. I remember it being the first place I ever had hummus, balsamic vinegar, figs.

Keep going. I think that's mostly it. But just these weird oddity of like, yeah, it was at Spoodle's. Do you remember Spoodle's? You guys ever eat at Spoodle's? Where was Spoodle's? Spoodle's is at the Boardwalk Hotel. I think I did eat at Spoodle's. I never ate at Spoodles? You guys ever eat at Spoodles? Where was Spoodles? Spoodles is at the Boardwalk Hotel. I think I did eat at Spoodles.

I never ate at Spoodles. And yeah, they would give you bread with hummus, even though it was an Italian restaurant. That was like what their bread service was. And my family was all kind of like, what is this? And I'm like, oh, this is good. Did they all try it? Yeah, everyone tried it and everyone liked it.

A little suspicious of hummus. Won't have hummus. I go, you know, it's just chickpeas. Did they all try it? Yeah, everyone tried it and everyone liked it. My dad's still a little suspicious of hummus. Won't have hummus. I go, you know, it's just chickpeas. It's not any... I don't know, hummus. He was so crumbling. I still think it was very unique back then. I don't know that it was available at supermarkets as much.

And then we were in the Millennial Village, I think it was called. Like the sort of World's lord in the sound stage at the back entrance of epcot like there was a pavilion where a man like we sat on pillows and he told us about his country and his culture and poured us tea and gave us plates of figs and it was like it felt like the most like hands-on because it wasn't like super crowds it was like wow this is like an epcot uh pavilion like just for us like it was a very neat like personalized it's a great way to describe an unpopular attraction i guess well it was also huge so i feel like it ate up people yeah it was turned the towards the uh the millennium was coming and everything was exciting. Possibilities.

Oh, I know. You remember. The world's going to be a utopia or the world's going to end in 2000. That was kind of one of two ways. As far as we knew with Y2K. And, you know, it turned out it was ending just very slowly. Very gradually. Very gradually. just very slowly gradually i just now i'm picturing kind of like a yearbook type photo of you looking

very studious and proud with the quote under it and they would give you bread with hummus just want that to be very associated with you it's funny the park stuff like i did not have a lot of i mean i had friends who would go certainly uh but like no one i ever really like geeked out with even like the friends that i would like nerd out about like comics or like movies or comedy or stuff like theme parks was never in this so it felt very personal to me and like to my family and like we were all kind of on the same page i was the most intense clearly you would go up to kids at school and be like i tried hummus i tried hummus for the free want to talk about it

did you guys know there's more than one vinegar um anyway to get back on track world showcase and get cultured yeah drink a turtle from from the living seas to a different seas oh yeah we figured it out um we're descending 20 000 leagues all the way 20 000 leagues deep under the sea uh uh well so let's let's talk about this you have a person you have an attachment not just to this ride but to this film it seems like very much yeah so i and i try to remember why and how that happened because when you watch it now i think it's like three hours long yeah and it's dry but um yeah it might have been on the wonderful world of disney okay possibly i think that is statistically very likely yeah so so that it might be that

or i might have seen it possibly projected someplace because in the early 80s they would have movies would come back to the theater so it's like oh you didn't see indiana jones it'll be back it'll be back next fall so uh so anyway uh it was something about the combination of my sort of like pre goth tendencies mixed with the idea of like humanity is dumb and i'm going to escape and like enter a magical world on my own mixed with kirk douglas was cool and i love peter lorry and james mason i love the way he sounded i was obsessed with pipe organs for some reason. I always like, like I was very into learning the pipe organ and 20,000 leagues under the sea,

like inspired me to self teach my, to, to be so whatever I taught myself, um, Takata and fugue and D minor because I was so obsessed with being Captain Nemo and playing that complicated song oh and it's difficult too when you figure it out it's tough yeah it took i didn't finish the end part a little rusty but the beginning does it get really like yeah it gets really done is that the song that plays

in this ride and in the movie that's what captain nemo plays in his pipe organ that's what he plays in the in the movie but in the the ride they play the theme, like an extended version of the theme. Yeah, I think they play an extended version of the theme. And it pretty much never stops. It plays through the entire ride. Also, I was reading about it. It was also, it was like a bed, so

if there was a delay, that could keep playing, but they could cue the narration parts, like, as needed. Yeah, it would just chill for a while, and you would just hear the organ music very pleasant for me i was i was very into orchestral music when i was a young child so but when you're waiting in the line they would play whale of a tale without lyrics which is kirk douglas's song okay yeah until i watched it in preparation for this i was not familiar with maybe not any of it embarrassingly i don't think i knew the the organ thing and i didn't know the song the song's a lot of fun yeah

it's good i swear by my tattoo uh kirk douglas had to go had to stretch outside of himself to sing uh i don't think he's known as a singer no but he he knocked it out of the park yeah he's super charismatic also just i gotta tell you it makes me feel great knowing that he is still alive right yeah yeah doing okay yes yeah can still like speak it seems like the odds are against it but he does he'll speak at things yeah the oscars a couple years ago so so um you would be walking through it just seemed like a perfectly Disney thing because back then it wasn't like oh have you guys heard about steampunk it's like

you wear an Abraham Lincoln hat but it's made of copper it wasn't like that it didn't really have a name when this movie was out or even like for a while after this movie was out yeah it was just like like a design aesthetic more like what the ship looks like what the submarine looks like

yeah yeah it was it was uh well i mean it was like um jules verne shit jules verne hg well shit totally yeah public domain science early science fiction and it just looked so beautiful and like it looks so perfect where you like there was something about where it was and i don't remember exactly where it was placed but something around the lines of like it was near frontier land but it was also near fantasy land it was like a really nice merge it also merged no it was uh tomorrowland right so it was sort of like it was fantasy it was fantasy land technically uh that was an interesting thing i came across uh sort of relearning about this ride is is you know of course in disneyland and anaheim they had the submarine voyage but it was much more like 50s kind of uh cold war like you know the submarines

america's first line of underwater defense and it was very novel eventually it became more research submarines as that became very popular and they wanted to put it in florida but they're like oh we're kind of running out of room in tomorrowland but if we like put a theme over it we can get it in somewhere else like fantasyland they're like oh wait the 20 000 leagues movie is still looms large in people's mind and the ride itself seemed kind of similar had a lot of similarities to the anaheim version but this except captain nemo right is there and you are in the nautilus and it was one of these sort of like these seamless transitions that i'm so into at disney where you don't see where you've sort of seamlessly entered into another world right so because it was a perfect connector between fantasy and future

it was retro future and it was also fantasy and but it makes sense it ties into frontierland and stuff too because it's it is past technology yeah yeah yeah and i also grew up in like near all these weird waterways and i thought it would be really cool if i had my own submarine and i would like sink people's boats and like go to boated boat communities and sink them with my own go to war with war as some have described nemo so i thought when i was growing up that it was the most successful immersive experience at disney right because because pirates is awesome but there's a part of pirates where it just feels like it feels like a little bit of a ride it's very immersive but i would say the haunted mansion is the most successful immersive experience for me at disney there's no point when i go like just a ride like i would

actually get sucked in when i was little completely to honda mansion sure uh but 20 000 leagues under the sea was so perfectly effective because you get into an actual, once you go through the very long line, you get into an actual submarine that is clearly below water. And if those portals broke, you're going to die. I mean, you're underwater. You know what I mean? It's not like they're not projecting it on a screen. You are in a submarine underwater. And if you're freaked out by that,

then you're probably not going to go on this ride. It would like when they'd close the hatch, your ears would pop a little bit so that you know that there's some sort of suction related thing going on. So Scott says this. So here's my quick story about this. And I, I don't know what's true and what's not because I was very little.

We were in line. I know I forget. It were in line. I forget. It's probably like 89 or something. We were in line for this ride. And it's always a long line because it's very hard to get in and out, to load people in and out for these subs. It still is in Disneyland. So the line gets very long.

There was no fast pass. My parents didn't have any idea. They didn't have a guide to tell. So we were there probably for what felt like an hour and a half, I think, in line. My parents didn't have any idea. They didn't have a guide to tell. So we were there probably for like what felt like an hour and a half, I think, in line. My parents were exhausted. And I'm like four or five years old. And we get to the front of the line. And I say to my mom, I have to go to the bathroom.

And my mom's like, we just got here. And I'm like, no, I have to go. So we got out of line. I never went on this ride. Oh, no. Now, here's the interesting thing. I think in hindsight, I might have been lying. Because I was afraid of the ride.

Because you were scared? I don't know for sure. My memories betray me. I'm not sure what the deal is. I think, though, I was using it so I could get off. I was too scared, too, as you're saying. It went under the water. I didn't like it.

I'm a little claustrophobic in general. I'm also a little phobic about everything in general. So I'm pretty sure I used peeing as an excuse to not go on this ride. I've never been on this ride. Neurotic childhood trauma trauma which we all share yes like like usually trauma caused by our own minds yes uh which is fitting because i don't want to be the one to break new i mean it'll be old news by the time this release but i got a news alert that uh the novelist philip roth just died at 85 oh my the great uh chronicler of neurotic uh jewish protagonists uh what a tie-in

what a tie-in yeah the first i got this seems like this sort of mania from a port noise complaint uh i guess i got a news alert that said that uh we have the dates or the dates when star wars land opens on my phone and i didn't break that news for this. You're breaking the number of this novelist's death. Wait, give us the dates. I shouldn't have said date, but it's summer 2019 for Disneyland,

fall 2019 for Disney World for Star Wars Land. We're beating them? We're beating them, yeah. So that's what we got. And I didn't even report that. So now I know we can report anything. Will it be worth it for the lines? Star Wars Land? Well, that's a whole other what we got and i didn't even report that so now i know we can report anything will it be worth it for the lines star wars land well that's a whole nother thing like if we're getting into rumors here they're they're doing a whole pixar this is not a rumor they're doing a whole 300 day before pixar pier event interesting so there's speculation that for months there will be a an additional upcharge star wars event to get into the land and you will have your

you will you won't be like you'll be able to go on the rides it'll probably actually be more comfortable but it'll be like an insane upcharge maybe in addition to your ticket or annual pass you won't regret it oh i agree yeah i'll 300 bucks easy done i'm on a boys band too throw it in right yeah yeah yeah i want to see, yeah, before anybody else, I want to see Watto's. Well, and we got to get a lay of the land before our band starts playing there on a permanent basis. Before Helix 2.0. Helix 2.0.

Sure. Are you guys just going to do like a flash mob of a band or? In that we won't have permission and it'll just start happening. Yeah, maybe. Oh, good. We were hoping someone from Disney would have heard that one episode where we pitched ourselves as the uh the revival of their old uh 70s band 80s band 80s band uh helix uh but yet we have not been contacted by the disney people so we'll we'll see they have a year though yeah they've got some time to to invite us but as you all know we

love breaking rules sort of what we're known for, because the bad boys of theme park podcasting. We might be the baddest boys. We might be the baddest boys. We're not bad boys. But in comparison to the other podcast hosts, they all seem like real good boys. I could be wrong, but...

They are uncomfortable saying the word alcohol. Like, I had a bit of a libation that was of the adult variety. We drank alcohol together the other night. We got boozed up. If you're

another Theme Park podcast host and you think you are a tougher, cooler, more bad boy or girl than we are, let know because i bet i bet you're wrong yeah can you compete with us having a night where we closed out the rooftop bar at the burbank holiday inn yeah i went to the uh carl strauss or gordon beers gordon beers gordon beers they're almost the same and i got a glass of white wine and jason got a brownie with ice cream on it and no drink and no drink and they brought me a plate with four spoons and i went well this won't be necessary

are you like me very accurate and you didn't have an id when you went to florida so you had your friends illegally buy you drinks for five days are you tougher than that i don't think so are you like me as you were doing research? I was also, by the way, 33 years old when I was going down. As you were doing research for this episode, tried one of Trader J's new cans of wine and then woke up in the morning

with a splitting headache. Well, I think that says it all. It's about time we started feuds with all these other podcasts. Yeah, come at us. This is our heel turn. Or my fellow Gainesvillians who picked up Mickey Mouse at grad night and threw him over the moat and got kicked out of Disneyland forever.

Too far, too far. I'm doing the opposite thing. I'm doing the opposite thing. I'm offended, sir. Offended. Get out of here. Whoa, is that a real thing? Yes, that's a real thing. I'm offended, sir. Offended. Get out of here. Whoa, is that a real thing? Yes, that's a real thing.

That's wild. Whoa, wait, were you part of this? Maybe he's been around once or twice, but even that's too far. What if he hurt himself? That was Gainesville High School. That was not PK Young. And they are still banned from Disney. Really?

Yes. The school in general? Yes. That's wild. Wow. Man. As they should be. Yes, we are.

That's horrible. Keep it it up that is horrible for silver springs folks in gainesville i go dive off uh go dive through a flaming hoop into a tiny pool of water how about that yeah so what was your first memory do you like your first time going how old were you when you first went on this do you remember great question specific time i you know what i remembered i remember more strongly is coming back from there and being like i'm going to recreate this entire experience in my living room and so i would insist that my mom find refrigerator boxes and small cardboard boxes and i would spend i mean i would the living room would be taken over by me building the nautilus in our living room and then cutting portholes out and putting like gelled you know gelled uh cellophane over them sure and then me going to my bathroom and being

like this is your captain nemo and i'd be like full ahead like turn on the sink and then like diving diving ding ding and i would do my impression of the entire ride and then i would force my little brother to sit there and listen to it so that would probably be when i was oh let's say nine let's say nine even though i know i went before that right this is what my obsession began creating the nautilus in my living room which cut to the future when i started being a bad kid in florida i brought my death metal friend sam kessel and he saw it and he goes be cool if we broke that right i'm like yeah totally that'd be cool he smashed no my nautilus and my childhood that was when my childhood ended wow when the lead singer of the Junkie Necrophiliacs

smashed the Nautilus in my living room. Shout out to the Junkie Necrophiliacs. He didn't even do it at a concert. He did it in my living room. So yeah, you'd go down into the bowels of the Nautilus and the organ music would be playing and you'd hear Captain Nemo up there. I don't think you heard Ned Land or Peter Lorre,

whatever his character's name is. He might have said, like, but Captain, but I don't think so. There's like a first mate who chimes in sometimes, but the person doing Nemo is doing an impersonation of James Mason. He is an actor named Peter Renaday doing a James Mason impression, a very ominous james mason impression

it wasn't terrible but i went back and watched a ride through today and i was like oh that's not james mason no although this guy i i do want to read more about him because i looked up his like filmography and like he's still alive like he did something for he did voices in like noska the valley of the wind i think like just a few years ago uh for the dubbed version and like just has an insane uh voice acting the sort of career that is surely dying in the current new media landscape where it's like oh clear this guy did a lot of additional voices or small characters but clearly this is how he made his living for years and years and uh we would probably never be able to have those careers you don't think so you don't think is this vo uh do you think vo's having uh well i mean i think

it'll always be needed but i feel like every now and then i read articles about like you know brad pitt does lead voice of me like movie stars doing like the main character actors are gone yeah like chas mcneil's are like fallen there's less and less of them sort of thing that might be true but there's also there's still video games and uh oh that's true yeah so i guess like new opportunities arise so but yeah this guy seemed like he had a very cool career a very long storied career fooled me i thought it was captain nemo so you so you would you know you the submarine was going straight it never actually submerged but it was but what they would do is they would

shoot bubbles at a at a at a diagonal angle so it felt like you were going down diagonally and it would happen at a convenient time, right when you'd pass by a, you know, a reef or something. And then you would, it would get like a little darker.

And, and you know, what's funny is that I never, I never realized this until this was another sort of end of childhood moment when my, this is the first snark in my life. When somebody goes, that ride's pretty fake.

I'm like, what are you talking about? No, it's not. It's enormous. And there's like fish and all kinds of stuff. And you can see all the way into the horizon they go yeah just look up like six inches you can see the surface of the water and i was like oh no and from that point on

i couldn't help it but to look up and you would see the surface of the water a foot above you but when i was little i did not have that feeling and you would just you look and there'd be like tons of amazing animatronics there's an animatronic grouper and uh and then as you as you would go into the waterfall which where you you dive again uh into the abyss they would have like those light up glowing you know creatures from the the bottom of the ocean and then you discovered atlantis which i always thought was exciting that we did. We did it. What's in the Atlantis part? It's just like really cool looking statues, like huge statues of like people's faces, but they're all crumbled.

But what's cool is, is that there's like lava all around it. So like the ground is lit up and glowing red and there's bubbles coming out of it. So there's like these ruins that are inside an underwater volcano. But there's also, it's like rumbling and it seems like the rumble is coming from outside then uh then a volcano starts to erupt so they're like let's get out of here and then you get out

of there and then you see another one of another nautilus which is nice because i was like oh good they're calling out the fact that there are multiple of these because i saw multiple right right right outside there's a lot yeah so there's a lot there's a fleet of these things so like oh no it's one of ours been crushed like an eggshell and i thought that that was like a very disturbing descriptive yeah yeah and so it had bubbles coming out of it and like it's like electricity is making the windows shock and you can hear it's sort of like sinking and you can hear like metal twisting i'm like oh shit right then reveal the squid which then attacks your nautilus right and there's like electricity that shoots out and then the squid gets away and then you barely make it out and then they they come up to the surface and they're like wow we did it congratulations crew yeah which one did you do you escaped i guess yeah you made it also at some point you see mermaids and a

sea serpent and like the uh the first mate like calls it out and so like atlantis all of this stuff going on nemo's fine with that but then he goes like uh sea serpents mermaids you must be losing your mind mr baxter of course uh to for the real for the real heads out there for the real theme park heads out there uh mr baxter is the name of the first mate or the crew member reference to tony baxter this was one of his first jobs he designed this right do you know that well they they used a lot of the original submarine voyage but then he was like one of the lead imagineers on like 20 000 leads of buying it for florida and uh uh from what i could tell seemed that you know we've we've speculated in the past about like he didn't seem very happy about like certain decisions and

it seemed like this was a thing that really wrangled some imagineers the the what happened with this ride in the anaheim version in terms of closures and like in anaheim's case laying dormant for so long both of them yeah yeah long stretches i have in my note on my notes on my phone that like to to make sure to mention the sea serpent mermaid part because i always felt that that joke fell flat because it was like they'd spell all you're you're in a situation where this captain is high status and he's like pointing stuff out and then all of a sudden he's like what there's no such thing as a sea serpent or mermaids and they're right in front of you and the sea serpent's eyes like like googly and it's the mermaids have a sea serpent on a

leash on like a pearl so they have like a hierarchy they have like a smiling and everybody's having a good time and then it's like this long pause it's sort of like this is a snarky thing to say it's sort of like when you know you go to an improv show and somebody's wearing a funny t-shirt you know what i mean yeah no you know it's sort of like it's a hat on a hat or it's like a thing it's like we'll do anything for a laugh like it just seems like such like a slow comedy you want a plain shirt or my opinion gentlemen put a collared shirt on put on a polo nice put on an oxford roll up your sleeves and make a little bit of an effort when you're going out for a nice show were you mad the years we've done improv together that i never wore a collared shirt on stage not really no i it was i guess it was more a goal i had for myself more

of like uh okay were you upset that you wore shirts that i've had t-mini martinis uh no because i mean that's universally funny yeah i mean that's gonna you just point to it if the sketch is an initial laugh and it breaks the ice and then the show is going to be very good maybe it's more for someone uh with me with my odd body type where I'm like, put in an effort. I feel like your shirts always fit better on you. So I care less. Well, there's nothing odd about my 6'3 gangly body type. No.

Seems nice to me. But you, because you coach teams or and you, do you give this advice or will you start to? Gentlemen, put in an effort. Oh, I don't know. Ladies, wear a gown. No. Well, I think ladies have at heart.

I think like a lot of women I know have said like when improvising, they usually just wear pants because you never know if you're going to be flopping around. We were sold in the one-on-one. The ladies ladies were told like do not wear a dress or a skirt ever so that is a thing they say i they never yelled at anyone about their i think it's very odd when like college groups wear like uh business casual like wear like sure dresses and khakis with tucked in shirt like look very you know like they're at a mixer like a networking event for whatever industry yale's improv team right they do they do a whole thing well yeah that or like other colleges do like matching t-shirts and i think i mean they that's

just dorky i mean if i'm calling something dorky like come on uh look at what i'm doing mine had mine yeah we were matching and it was like a it was a very busy logos for so for like 17 of those to be uh darting around the stage it was it was far too much yeah uh so no matching sure we're laying down improv it's also like well people are coming right from work or have like other stuff to do i don't really care but if it's like especially if it's like a sold out show like show show like then where it's so nice where it's something nice yeah put it a little effort tux in your car yeah theater you know so so i you probably you probably researched this as well but um

i just found out what happened to the nautiluses these things that were so important to me kind of scattered to the winds yeah they just chopped them all up except for three two you they just chopped them up they sold them for scrap they just didn't do anything with them yeah two of them they sunk off the coast of one of disney's bermuda resorts the castaway k the private island that disney owns an island and one of them according to this the we probably watched the same video uh hurricane took it away yeah it might be gone gone forever it seems like one is still in this northern area and then another used to live in uh hollywood studios mgm studios and the like

uh uh oh in the graveyard sort of where they say like this is how you do miniature ship waves and stuff like that yeah there was a nautilus he would just walk by submerged in the water there oh but with that thing where you would put on a like the guy in a yellow uh rain jumper and they'd film a scene like he's caught in the high seas or uh kind of would love to see that yeah or like a full video or if like if your dad had done that and you had video of it or something and now you're gonna write on the honey i shrunk the kids b oh yeah oh yeah we just were talking about how i hate that b that is another thing i'm scared of is that b from that movie it's an intense b i was very scared of the idea of being picked out of a crowd to do that stuff yeah that was my neurotic thing of like i can't i don't want to please

please please please don't make me shake hands with sml even though they would never do it for the kid who doesn't want it because there's a zillion kids who do they know it'll like flail and bomb out if the kid's not into it yeah did anybody ever did you do one of those things ever anywhere volunteer my brother would volunteer for all of them and be picked for all of them i would hide i would just take a step behind someone i was so scared of the idea i did what which one uh hercules and xena universal studios oh yeah yeah So, it was all green screen showing how they would do it. And it was like they needed like a tall, like it was because they wanted different sized heights. So, they needed a tall man, an average sized woman, and like a child, especially like a shorter child.

So, it could be like kind of different heights. And then they gave us like a wig and like a chest and we were like um uh uh what is it called when it's a man up top and a creature down below pan centaur yeah centaur we were centaurs so like like uh uh they would show foot and it was like we were putting pretty much just like put in this and uh put in these outfits and laughed at and then taken backstage and then like um put in front of a green screen and like they're like all right you're just gonna just wave just wait hold up these crossbows and wave and like and then at the end they combine it all together and send us back

out and it's like hercula hercules fighting or xena fighting and then like someone sneaks up behind them and then like that bad guy gets like a bunch of arrows in them and then it cuts to us like as centaurs waving like hello we did that we murdered that creature and um i think that was it they like said thank you for doing it and sent us back to our families and loved ones. We didn't get any perks. I don't remember any. DVD or something. No tape of it? Didn't get a tape.

Even an offer to buy a tape? No, I'm sure we would have done that. And this, I think, I felt like I probably would have been in fifth or sixth grade and had done a couple school plays. And I was like, OK, I can do this now. That's when you learn. That's when you get the bug that's what i got yeah that's what i got this is one of the many diseases that affect our body yeah well so there's no there's no video this is what you're saying unfortunately well there's only one way to see it which is fan art if anyone would

like to draw jason as a friendly centaur oh man i'd love to see it sure sure uh and hey we're in a nice shirt how about that yeah in the buff nice collar centaur at least just like a polo shirt if nothing else yeah something um all right we haven't had a request in a while. So I'm looking. Yeah. So like the Nautilus, because the original Nautiluses are not in these other parks, but they are. They do have a presence in Japan and Paris.

There's a Nautilus parked in Tokyo DisneySea. And there is a ride. Yeah. But it's very different. Right. It's like 20,000 leagues under the sea. Did you watch it? I will not watch it

because i will not be spoiled ahead of my japan can i talk about the mechanics of it it's okay okay but i'm gonna hold my ears while this happens because i don't want anything spoiled for me okay all right hold on maybe you shouldn't tell because the thing that they did is smart it's so good it's very smart what they do but you maybe you shouldn't i didn't mind the spoiler it's so it's so cool i i'll refrain from one thing but i'll talk about one or two other things use very coded language okay okay so there's a certain control element i'm not gonna get into that okay but the track is above you okay i like where this is going this is not in specific yet. The window panes.

Oh, this is going to be a spoiler, I think. I don't know how to say this. It's not a submersible. I mean, like the others, the Nautiluses technically were not submarines. They were just modified glass bottom. I'm not going to talk about it. If anyone wants to know, there's a million ride-throughs of the journey, the 20,000 Leagues ride in DisneySea.

It's very neat. Clearly, there's a reason this one has stuck around longer. Let's just say millions of gallons of water. A lot less water than 11.5 million gallons of water are used every day on this ride and i guess we'll just leave it there right is there any other ways you guys can describe this without spoiling it for mike i i i want to say this and this is not a spoiler and this might not even be anything anyone agrees with but after watching the ride through i wrote down in my notes i think this ride's a little like the et adventure i think there's a little bit of magic, and there's critters. I don't want to say much beyond that,

but I think you're going to be delighted by this thing. I've been avoiding spoilers about the Journey to the Center of the Earth ride. Yes, me too. I've never seen the creature in that. I had no idea there was a 20,000 Leagues ride there, and it looks so great. I really wish we had it here. Did you watch a video this year?

I actually held back on watching the journey to the center of the earth because i'm like maybe i'll go and i want to see what it's like but i immediately watched the 20,000 lakes i'm gonna see today and it looks it looks fantastic isn't this cool i mean all of that mysterious island part of that park which that's an interesting jules verne thing that i don't think i realize like nemo shows up the mysterious island is the name of where he like docks the not that's his island so like that was a sequel to 20 000 leagues uh uh when it was originally serialized in like french literary magazines and and uh i believe that there's a harryhausen movie about the mysterious I think you're right yeah oh another take on Nemo yeah

which uh so so when I when I you know as I grew as I went from a boy and became a man and I moved out here to Los Angeles and I started working in the entertainment industry uh eventually I got to a point where I was a uh production supervisor on a Coca-Cola commercial shooting at Disneyland. And that's the first time I'd ever been backstage at Disneyland, which there's a lot of, that's another whole thing I could tell you guys about, but I won't. And at the end of the day, after the end of a very long day, we went into what is now Star Wars, what will be Star Wars land. Is that what they call it?

They call it Galaxy's Edge, which is now, which is will be star wars land is that what they call it they call it galaxy's edge galaxy's edge which is now which just will be galaxy's edge but what used to be a place where there are a million potted plants because that's where they would put the plants that they would replace the dying plants with it was like a big like a big green rental shop like a hollywood green rental shop is what it looked like back there oh yeah and up on a trailer which was clearly designed to move it away was a full nautilus ride card wow i got out of my truck and i walked over to it by myself and everyone had left and i put my hand on it and i just sat there and i said goodbye oh man wow oh i didn't know there'd be such an arc to this episode there really is wow that's nice that's fitting because

that was the section of land that was once earmarked to be discovery bay oh that's right tony baxter's like idea for like a full jules Verne kind of land. Right. And a lot of those ideas, if I understand correctly, were altered and became current. In Paris, yeah. A lot of the designs used in Paris,

of course, scaled back because money reasons and then like used in different forms in Tokyo DisneySea. Yeah. Which is, some people say, the best amusement park in the world currently. Is that right? tried to avoid even doing all this we've tried to not hear a ton and we're all trying to make it soon in various guises and we'll find out yeah um yeah it's so it didn't it is cool that that area like probably of all the unbuilt Disney things, Discovery

Bay has this particular allure. And it's cool that some of it was implemented there. It's, you know, I've done a lot of shitting on Disneyland Paris, but I'd say the most successful part of it is Discoveryland, which takes cues from this. It's got this, the big airship, which is from one of these books. It's from an H.G. Wells or a Jules Verne, and it's not coming to me, and I apologize. But that would have been a big...

It's not a Phineas fog balloon. Does it do anything? It's not a fog. It moves a little bit, doesn't it? Or is it just sitting there sticking out of a building? It just sits there, but it's this kind of like, it's this big dynamic showpiece

that lures you into the building. And Discovery Bay, or i'm sorry discovery land at disneyland paris has a nautilus walk through which is very neat uh and they and there's kind of a clever thing happening there where there's a little body of water a tiny little lake and the nautilus is sticking out of it and and cooled rock work all around at your disney rock work uh and, and then you, so you go into the actual Nautilus, but it leads you into the show building that is somewhere else because

unlike the vehicles on this 20,000 leagues ride, it has room for the Oregon room and a porthole with the squid. It's a really well done squid. Uh, um, it's very, very neat to walk through. Uh,

there's, there's an automatic walkthroughs at Disneyland Paris and some of them are very cool. And this one's very very neat to walk through uh there's an odd amount of walkthroughs at disneyland paris and some of them are very cool and this one's very successful i think that too was inspired uh inspired by like in right after the movie came out like they needed a way to add some life to the original tomorrowland in anaheim so they put in a lot of the sets and stuff from 20 000 leagues and just an immediate hit just like even though it was just a walkthrough people the movie was a big hit yeah so people were psyched to see all that stuff and the organ uh that was in that walkthrough was repurposed for

the haunted mansion in anaheim that's right i just learned that too the other day so that's the that's the organ in anaheim right which is in the movie it's the one james mason plays in the movie he actually played and then they put they put in the haunted mansion afterwards yeah yeah i think that seems to be the walk through in tomorrowland open in 55 closed in 66 uh where you can see the 20 000 league sets and haunted mansion opened uh what 69 or is being built kind of in that whole window so yeah they moved the organ over it's not the pipes uh kind of those big fanned out pipes that are the main kind of uh the ghosts come out of uh yeah those are the the pipes are new to the haunted

mansion but the organ itself is uh is from the 20,000 leagues movie if you ever want to see something funny and weird on that product of its time there's this black and white sort of behind the scenes interview with peter lorry and james mason about 20,000 leagues on the sea it's like well let's go see if we can interview peter mr lorry mr lorry knock knock knock oh hello i didn't see you there like he comes out with like a you know a towel he's smoking a cigarette you know and he's just like well i had a great time working with mr douglas so it's him being peter laurie but talking about this great movie that they're about to release wow so can you hold these documents rick can you just hold on to this for a little while you know that is my not to skip too far ahead but that's one of my like uh short comics of this ride i want more peter laurie oh yeah laurie had yeah oh lloyd uh laurie i i wish

laurie had said the uh one of my favorite lines from this ride is when nemo describes the turtles that the nautilus is going by and calls them the reptilian patriarchs of the deep well when you go by those turtles you just get hungry now oh yeah oh yeah you just think about that i just call them lunch my favorite part watching the film was this zone where uh nemo is offered uh peter lorry and uh uh and kirk douglas food and it's all and then they're like delicious what, what is it? And it's all like sea items, like that's squid ink, that's a sauce of sperm whale. What you are eating is sperm whale teeth. These cigars, quite delicious. These are kelp.

Yeah, yeah. Lolita, we need more kelp cigars in here. It is weird when he just slips in in the right in the middle of the ride it's like you're all my precious lovelies like my little lolita you know there's a kind of a cool from like a from like a filmmaker's perspective there's a cool um suspenseful moment when they first get in the nautilus and they're like whoa this thing is crazy this is amazing and they look out the giant window and they see this underwater funeral right happening and then one of the scuba captain nemo's scuba people looks up in like points and there's a special sort of suspense

reserved for you're in a submarine and these people are slowly moving towards you they see you but there's no place for you to go so they're just watching yeah yeah which i watched there's a really great um making of this movie that's on youtube and i assume it was from a dvd or something but that was one of the big uh i i didn't know the book particularly but supposedly the the book is more a series of disconnected adventures and they and it's very broken up by chapter and the concern turning it into a film was how do you make it a uh how do you tell a bigger story and it became like a prison escape movie that was the big take that they had it took like a year to serialize uh oh the release of the

book yeah it was serialized it didn't come out as one yeah i. I mean, like a lot of Dickens works and Jules Verne's works. I think some of H.E. Wells, too. It was like in magazines, essentially. Oh, it came out in like newspapers or? Yeah. Oh, wow. That's a fan. Yeah.

Didn't know that. I was a big fan of the book. I went through a big Jules Verne face. And then I went through a big trying to write in the style of Jules Verne face. Oh, boy. English teacher was not impressed. phase. Oh, boy. English teacher was not impressed. Yeah.

Which, what did that mean? Just very flowery descriptions? Oh, I'd be like, oh, this is the tale of the puffin, a small craft that can burrow in sand and fly, you know, whatever dumb shit. And she's like, nobody cares about that. We're reading, you know, I why a caged bird sings so that just reminded me that i wrote a little short story in a class where i just jammed two of my main interests together back to the future and sea world where i had just been and for some reason it was a story where shamu splashes the audience but the water makes you travel through town wow why would that if so you and you so i guess you go back to like a you it's the sea world but it's the 50s

and then you need to get a new a different shamu to splash you back is it because of the spice that shamu creates well i don't know about like a like a worm like a worm from dune do you is this a weight like would someone fill me in uh i only know the bear boat so if you know the worms of the worms of dune are uh these creatures that uh that uh i mean i'm i'm not a super dune guy but i know that their their mind for their spice which enables you to have certain powers and I think travel through time if your mind can. It seems like a catch-all Captain America formula

where you get powers and you may be able to travel through time and also you get super high. And the whole universe is built around the the spice and don't they reveal later on they're like it's it's just it's just worm shit like what that's what the spice is oh wait the whole movie wait i've only seen the trailer it's all about the pursuit of spice correct yeah so dune is about trying to get worm shit i don't think they call that out and there's uh the the one it said there's a messiah like character that kyle mclaughlin plays that character and then there's so many

dune books i i don't even know i i have only like seen little bits of the movie and like read some i've never read this book but like my dad and brother have read a lot of the dude books and i'm like because his son took it over at some point and like they just kept going it's sort of like the ender's game series where it's like oh yeah and then ender is an adult and his evil sibling is the president of the universe and it's like what the what i think when his son is writing it and again my my wife has read all these uh and i i haven't so but I think when his son is writing it, and again, my wife has read all these, and I haven't, so, but I think when his son is writing it,

the one worm is like a god worm, and it has the face of a human all of a sudden. Oh, yeah. Much like Jurassic Park where it eventually turns into a human dinosaur. Like paperback art. Anyway, so there should be a Dune ride. Yeah, yeah.

My Shamu time trial movies movies the book was way better than dune do you have it still i'll try to find it that's there's some patreon material oh yeah reading on the air if you bring that i will bring my uh what i think is an austin powers parody called monkeys are forever that i wrote in seventh grade and the character's name is jack powers as if that's even a de-heightening if you ask me and he's not even that fun but he does have a monkey as a sidekick i would just make complicated lists for like alternate x-men lineups oh i have those alternate teams oh i have those two i made x-men oh sure yeah i made in fourth or fifth grade an entire like a like a guidebook of a parody theme park called oj land

how have we sat on this for this long yeah this many hours of theme park podcast entertainment uh yeah that's how obsessed i was with disneyland even at the time and also i was into the oj trial and um i like uh i was i was really into i thought jay leno was was good and cool at the time and he did all the oj material and it was like my attempt to do kind of like topical leno type comedy so and it was like it was for a project and it was i got an a and it was super fleshed out like i covered every ride it would like as detailed as any of this shit is now that we do uh and i don't remember a lot of them other than that i was very very proud to introduce the 3d movie spectacular captain ito do you have this too i oh that one i for sure have all right finally the shoe is on the other

foot folks artists if you can draw captain ito which just for the again to extrapolate it out is a captain eo judge lance thought of by a nine-year-old please for the love of god i want to see this more than anything um we did you have to figure i want to, I mean, for sure I want to see Ito in the costume with the rainbow shirt. Yeah. Doing a moonwalk. But I also, and you'd have to incorporate, it's also kind of a judge robe, but with like spangles all over it. Right. But I'd also, you got to figure out which character is which.

Like, were there people who were kind of a pair who would be I.D. and O.D. in the O.J. trial? Who was a pair? Marsha Clark and who was Clark and Darden? Marsha Clark and, oh, God, the other guys. Not Christopher Darden. I'm just trying to think of the cast of the miniseries. So, like, Robert Kardashian, David Schwimmer and John Travolta's character could be a duo. Is OJ the witch?

He's, yeah. Nino makes him beautiful at the end? With dancing? Okay, I guess that tracks. This might not be one-to-one in general. This might not be. Yeah. A lot of this, if you follow it to its logical end, just gets horrifying.

But Kato is for certain hooter. Oh, there we go. Kato is for certain hooter. He's the dumb one who messes everything up. Captain Ito, that's just good, clean fun right there. I'll bring it in as soon as I can. What's the name of the little fuzzy with the butterfly wings? What's his name?

Fuzzball. Fuzzball. Yeah, Fuzzball is a little bronco probably they're in the bronco aren't they in the spaceship the bronco yeah they're in the spaceship is the bronco yes yes i'm gonna be so silly we're gonna have to get back to you guys we'll sort out all the math of this anyway let's let's take it back to from uhist author Scott Gardner to futurist author Jules Verne. What have we missed?

I mean, we talked the original. You know what I think is cool is that the that original walkthrough attraction was the first I believe the first attraction added to Disneyland after opening day. I think that's right. Cause it really wasn't much in Tomorrowland. Certainly nothing that we think of like the intense level of immersion that like attractions give you now. Yeah. Well,

and I think like, I don't really know the details from what board, from what I gleaned pretty quickly. Okay. If you're walking into Disneyland Tomorrowland, like from the castle area on the left, now is buzz lightyear used to be circle vision on the right now is star tours and that building was this 20 000 leagues thing and in between adventures through inner space and it seems like walt built that build it's still those original two buildings uh from 55 uh but various

things have cycled in and out and it seems like walt had those buildings set up and uh but various things have cycled in and out and it seems like well had those buildings set up and but didn't know what was going to go in there and it was like i don't know it'll be a sponsored thing there was a lot of sponsored like exhibits and stuff that kind of rotated and stuff lots of like quick fix kind of stuff but i think the biggest space went unfilled or something pulled out and he was and somebody had the idea to swing in all of the 20,000 leagues stuff but the movie was a little old by that point and i mean just just a couple years so but they had to like freshen everything up and give it all new coats of paint and the squid is falling apart and supposedly the day before disneyland opened walt skipped a big party

to help out painting the squid to get it ready that's funny but it didn't take you at the opening until yeah that's a little later some probably details of this so yeah some of this stuff can be hard to uh track down but i think it's interesting that like all so many jules verne type things in the parks have spread out over so many decades and it seemed like especially when they were closing this or they would like they they you know didn't end up pulling the trigger on some of the other Jules Verne based attractions at various parks they're like well will people care about Jules Verne like do people care and anytime they it, it's like a hit. People love it. I mean, I remember my family being pretty disappointed when the Florida ride closed in 94.

They closed it in 94. They're like, this is a temporary refurbishment. And then it just kind of sat dormant for like two years. And then they're like, yeah, it's closed. It's done. It's done. That's it. Well, don't you feel that this is like the eternal struggle between art and commerce, I guess you could say?

Because Jules Verne aesthetic fits perfectly into the Disney, like the original Disney of my understanding, which is a sort of cartoonish darkness, right? So it very perfectly hits like something that disney generates but there's no property that that latches on to that so it's so you you kind of have to disney has to have a property especially now in order to to build a land right i mean there's no original lands anymore are they they aren't affiliated with property every now and then there's an attraction mystic manor comes to mind or like yeah some of the other tower terrors once in a while

it seems like if you're building a new park you can get away with something that's not a property although of course this is a property but yeah it's it's like it does feel like um yeah with like because they moved change obviously changed to nemo out here um but i've heard like i think it's two parts i think this is a very expensive ride to um keep uh keep up oh yeah and millions of gallons of fresh water like yeah they say tony baxter famously saved the one out here from from going away because they made it nemo so they could justify it by adding the property to it so yeah i feel like yeah it doesn't have a current property and in addition it's like the most expensive right to run in the park so they're like yeah this is an easy one we can say no let's get

rid of it it's crazy looking back on recent history that like uh because the florida one was even bigger so that one i read was 11.5 gallons a day. The one out here is like 9 million gallons a day. And that was operating during California's multi-year drought. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they had to pay a ton of extra money to use that much water. But then also, like, the state and the city cut Disney a lot of breaks. They also, I mean, they tried so many weird things to keep it going. You can't blame them for, because they did try.

They had human beings that they made dressed in mermaid suits that would sit on a rock in the sun for hours. They tried real fish at one point. They tried a lot of different things. So I'll hand it to them. I'm not furious with them for tearing it out. It sounds like if they had done the Tokyo DisneySe disney sea version which again thank you for being very general when you describe it it feels like that one would last because everyone it seems like

it's much even like more immersive and crazy and like and they got to build it in the 2000s as opposed to its clunky weird 50s or 70s technology it's already not trustworthy and you're pumping water through it and they figured out a way to put a lot more people per hour into it a lot more people this doesn't eat up a lot of people also not at all uh handicap accessible like you have to go down a narrow stairway they said a family member has to carry you down that was their only option i think one either anaheim or florida one of them had like a video room where you would see a video of like what they would be seeing so like there was so an alternate experience that inspired a joke in the fake um uh ride opening that i made at funny or die where if you couldn't go on this if you weren't if you were

handicapped that you'd go into a tent and a Navajo storyteller would describe the ride to you because I was like what a you watch like a fake version of it in a little room and you're not underwater I appreciate the effort I like that they tried

there's also the wild card experience like what happened to my I won't name any names but a friend of mine right appreciate the effort i like that they tried there's also the the wild card experience like what happened to my i won't name any names but a friend of mine uh his his son was let's say eight uh and his son was like i'm so he was a very he was a very nervous kid and he's like dad i don't want to go on this thing i'm so scared and you know it's hard being a parent you you just try to be successful more often than you make mistakes and he's like you know what i'm just gonna force my kid to go and he's gonna see that everything is fine he's gonna see that it wasn't that bad and in life when you're worried about things and you and you just

you commit anyway you're gonna realize that you're stronger for it so he went down into the disneyland submarine ride with his son and as soon as the ride started moving, his son threw up and diarrheaed all over himself and screamed and had a panic attack and they were trapped in it for the entire ride. Oh wait, yeah, there's no way to go backwards. So that sort of situation happens what? Once every month? Because everything happens

just by rule of numbers. Also, clumsy children must have fallen down these narrow stairways all the time. Because you had to climb down a ladder. Yeah, yeah. So clumsy children must have fallen down these narrow stairways all the time. Just a straight drop. Because you could have climbed on a ladder, I think. Yeah, yeah. And this thin little openings. Essentially, yeah. Thin little child-sized openings where you could just fall straight to the bottom.

Yeah. Most of, you probably know what, one out of ten friends that would be incredibly claustrophobic, right? This is you in a tin can. Easy. With that very distinctive Disney motor sound that has that weird Disney motor smell. And then there's water with chlorine. Or even if they didn't know they were claustrophobic, they might find out they were on this ride.

That's the fun discovery of Jules Verne. Sounds like I dodged a bullet by lying and saying I had to pee. I think this kid is a window into Mike's future. Oh, my God. My past. Potential past. And once he said young me, it was like, yeah, this guy had rules. I was back when it was going.

The coolest kid we know. Jason was the coolest of the three of us. We're very impressed. All right. All right. Anglers. And trying hummus before by a decade. Trying it before me. Yeah, I was on the hummus before by a decade trying it before me

or it was culturally acceptable. A fun thing I read I didn't even realize this is that in the queue of the Little Mermaid

in Florida they play an instrumental Whale of a Tail as tribute because that's where the ride was. Oh yeah.

That's a nice little thing. I heard that they put some of the water from 20,000 Leagues into that into the line or something so when you see that water know some of the water from 20,000 Leagues into the line or something. So when you see that water, know some of it was, I don't know. Okay, that's not quite as obvious.

That's like when the kids of the world poured their respective waters into the small world. Right? Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah. There's always things like that. Children, do you have the waters? Yes. You travel,

you've brought glass, glass jugs full of raw water from their respective countries. Or when Kiss put their blood in the ink of their comic book.

Oh, yeah. That's true. And don't forget Mark Grunewald, his ashes. Mark Grunewald was a writer and editor

and when he died, he was cremated and they mixed his ashes in with the comic the reprinted yeah so there you go it's all the same thing mike did you hold on to any of your p is an eight-year-old is there anything you can include it in no i don't have any of my p that's too bad there's no way to harden it and turn it into furniture. Some funny details about what happened to this. Yeah, New Fantasy Land, I think, like, between the Little Mermaid ride and

the Seven Dwarfs Mine coaster, I think, lies on top of this now. For a little while, they just kind of made a character meet and greet called Ariel's Grotto. And then, also also some of the property was turned into a playground called poo's playful corner is that right no poo's playful spot oh poo's playful spot and it was like for kids two to five right so uh yeah just kind of like a

pretty barren part of the park for a long time bear let us know if you if you went and enjoyed poo's playful spot look for our upcoming poo's playful spot episode two and a half hours of poo's playful spot horizons on a mansion three who's playful spot of course scott and i as eight-year-olds too afraid of of Pooh's Playful Spot, so we did not play there. We were too afraid. We made the right call. I would put on a leather jacket and chew candy cigarettes and hit the jukebox in Pooh's Playful Spot.

And much like that monkey, you would get a cigarette afterwards. Yeah, I was a good boy. I got a cigarette. You know, I went to Disney World for the first time in 20 years uh last year and i didn't realize that that whole new area used to be 20 000 leagues under the sea right with the snow white which looks cool and then uh poo's playful spot and then the circus area yes that dumbo circus area sure when i sort of stumbled into that in ariel's grotto so there's it's there but there's nothing to do there's just like a fountain i think that's there i don't well they built a big little mermaid

because i saw it at the end of the day as we were going with my kids and oh it was that it was then that i realized walking through that area i was like okay so disney world is now officially too big to do in a day like you can't even see everything in a day because i i happened on that area and i was like oh shit oh yeah yeah 10 or 9 lands and they're like it's far away it's up in the north end of the park so you can miss it entirely yeah that's a big big difference between the magic kingdom in florida and the magic kingdom disney classic disneyland park out here is like two the pathways are a lot wider in florida and everything is farther away like

here it's pretty easy to crisscross disneyland i mean you're still gonna walk a lot but in florida man stuff is really far away comparably we used to always say oh never having gone to disneyland you know disneyland could fit in the parking lot of Disney World. Ha, ha, ha. That doesn't make any sense. Disney World's parking lot is enormous. It's bigger than the L.A. County Fairgrounds. And Transportation Center? Are you kidding me? What a huge footprint that is.

As a side note, you guys may appreciate this. When we went to Disney World last year, we stayed in Fort Wilderness, where I had stayed when I was a little kid in a tent. That's where you used to be able to do that. I think you still can, but back then it was like a wilderness campfire, and you pitch a tent, and it's like the wilderness. And then we took a bus to a very small boat,

and the boat went through three lakes before we got to the main lake, which got us to Disney World. It was incredible. That place is so insanely huge. All that stuff all the the water sports and everything you forget about all that yeah yeah going on it is really fun like uh i mean the polynesian the contemporary grand floridian i think everyone thinks of but fort wilderness and the wilderness lodge it is cool to stay there and just take the boat over because like the boats are definitely more efficient than the buses and a lot of times a lot more efficient than the monorails

it's super fun you they give you one of those bracelets so you're like cabin you just put your bracelet near it and the cabin opens which is cool and then you take the boat by i think at least two islands that used to be attractions and now are overrun and abandoned. So you're just going by what is obviously an abandoned attraction and now is sort of a spooky looking island. Yeah. On your way to the, you don't see the Grand Floridian. You don't go that far because that's on the total other side of that. No. Yeah.

You would hit the Magic Kingdom before you got there. So yeah. Oh, another random factoid. When I was very little, when we were in the ferry to get to Disney World, we got in a crash. The ferry hit the dock. Wow. It was a major crash. Every person was thrown to the floor.

My brother was an infant, and he was tossed and flew in the air. I mean, it was a major crash. He didn't land in the lake, right? There's gators in that lake. One of my brothers did did and he's not with us anymore because once you land in that once you set foot in that water you're gone you just like evaporate so teeming with alligators that like you just every square foot i'm so dedicated this podcast to his memory it's crazy to look at there's so much of it online the original like uh promotional

materials of like the resort resort part of the florida parks and there's so many pictures of people swimming in that water sunbathing in that water it's just like well what's it called what's the um the the water park uh near fort wilderness uh i used to go river country usa river country used to be if memory serves uh it used to be like uh lake water fresh water yeah i remember yeah i remember being like fresh now this is a water slide if the water is brown you know it's good i remember the water being brown we're all getting earaches today fellas well speaking of disgusting water let's let's go back around to to this ride and wait and it's you know it's gone so there's no way to uh plus it up it almost was uh burnt to the ground for

insurance money but uh is there anything with anything that could have been done uh uh to to save this thing any any any great ideas that you think would have made it worth it for them to keep it around hmm yeah i mean at the time it was done in what 94 it was just sitting there it just kind of yeah we haven't really said it just kind of like did they close it for refurbishment and like it'll open back up and it just never did it sat there and i remember going during that time and being confused like is that open or closed or not and i don't think they knew and then it was uh yeah that used to happen when you couldn't just double check stuff on your phone immediately yeah oh wait is it open is it closed is something new coming uh this was also i'm sorry they posted a like you know clothes for

refurbishment sign with a very adorable octopus with like a uh like painting with a little paint brush like fixing it up that's cute yeah we'll post that to the chat yeah because he he never finished they fired the octopus this is also the era i feel like this is the beginning of the era of fan outrage i don't mean that sounds condescending and i don't mean it to but people being mad about some major decision because toad closed in florida soon after or around within the same window and that's the craziest thing that they've ever done i don't know we're mad and i like that was an early like people made shirts people were there on the last huge crowds that sort of thing that really didn't happen with nemo because it just slowly almost faded to dust like yeah yeah i don't feel good captain nemo i

don't want to go this is like an existential, but has there ever been a ride at the parks that has been plussed up and it made it better for you guys? Made it better? Yeah. Yeah. Hmm. Well, would you say Guardians? I don't know if you say it's better, but it's cool.

Well, it's cool. I mean, it feels fresh and I always want to go on it. So I guess I would say maybe better as long again as long as florida stays around the tower of terror being turned to guardians right i kind of feel like it's i feel like i it's more fun and i go there more frequently now will it fade in a few years i don't know but i do always want to go on it now whereas tower you'd go ah we could skip tower here and there i think the uh all the fantasy land um uh plus ups adding the lighting effects and making the characters a little more complex i think those are all really well done i hatbox ghost i love him in disneyland and star tours i think is better now yeah yeah

it is good is better probably what if but randomly every once in a while, you could go on the old ride? Of course, that would be fantastic. That's my pre, we're not in the wrong episode. Was it Paul Reubens, or was it a... Paul Reubens. It was Paul Reubens. Yeah, sure was. I mean, Rex not being the pilot is maybe the only...

That's why you could... That's what we'll talk about in that episode. Well, I'd be fine with C-3PO taking you through the original movie. Sure. I'd just be excited to see the movie in that cabin again. That would be a fun throwback they could probably easily

program at one of these like throwback moments. That's a good idea I think. That's really neat. I don't know if the timing is right and there'd be no holograms in it Because there have been three versions right because there's a one is the current one where Darth Vader grabs you and Well it depends. there's stormtrooper

version darth vader version it's customizable so like the order of scenes can change the person who talks to you can change oh yeah there's like there's like three different scenes at the start and there could be three like three land places you go to at the start and then three at the end wow but then they've added two because of the two movies as well. And a lot of those new characters are saying hi to you. Finn, Poe, Dameron. Maz Kanata. Maz Kanata's now on. I saw Maz the other day.

And you believe in Maz points at you. Maz gives you the old point, too. I've gotten a little too much Maz Kanata lately. I like Maz Kanata. I feel like I get Maz Kanada on that ride a lot recently well she's very thirsty you know well yes that's true i do like her jet pack that's fun so i don't i don't think that there will ever be at least not in the next 10 years because we know the slate or even 20 years there's not going to be a movie that would fit the 20 000 leagues under the sea right well it's

funny that you say that because uh so there's been multiple attempts on your phone uh at remakes uh for uh uh 20 000 leagues under the sea uh mcg was once attached to do a 20 000 leagues movie that fell through david fincher was attached that fell through he did gone girl instead uh james mangold is currently attached to a uh as of recently according to wikipedia a disney movie called captain nemo wow should i say if i want yeah sure yeah if there's anything what could have salvaged it or uh would you do you think that there's any merit in more sort of like high-end hotel or restaurant experiences in the park? Are you going to say make it a restaurant? That's what I was thinking.

I was thinking like, could you do that? It would cost a little bit more. It would have to be a lot, I think. You'd have to go three times because it's 12 minutes per spin yeah i yeah oh i love that yeah that's what i was that's pretty cool i think that actually was going to be a feature of the discovery bay tony baxter i think you could have had a meal in in the nautilus uh and by the way we missed this a captain nemo uh simulator ride which they were going to try to do in the 70s which i don't know how right they would have been ready by them but they were pre-starters there was going to be that but

yes uh a nonoless restaurant was discussed that's a pretty good idea sperm whale and yes yeah you finally get all those you get your captain emo food your turtle sir we've got a bunch left over from Epcot. Shark fin. Canned turtle. Shark fin. Shark fin soup. Real shark fin soup. It's not a joke. Shark fin soup. It's not a simulation.

It's the actual thing. This is high end. This would have been the original Disney World Club 33, maybe, before they added the new ones. Sir, here is our farm-to-table menu. Here is our local menu. And here is our local menu and here is our endangered menu scrambled shamu eggs from an actual shamu we will need uh proof that you have a safety deposit box to access this menu

you know i if i could go back i think there were two words that could really say this ride and inspired from 8 to 80 and those two words are peter lori oh yeah i mean if you lorried this ride up a little no way they could have torn this down baby a little lori narration if you put a lori animatronic i know i've also recently discussed a vincent d'onofrio bug animatronic alien animatronic i just want uh interesting looking character actors turned into animatronics everywhere that's what i want what a great idea so instead it's peter lori is like oh no i'm in control of the nautilus like he doesn't know what he's doing or something yeah or if like Nemo narration is like, I need to step away for a moment. Don't ask why. I'll take it from here, boss.

I've got to talk to Baxter. What does it say? Yes, Turtles patriarchs of the deep. Okay. Okay. Your lorry started getting into the Vincent Price territory. He had all kinds of flits.

Who's the rapper who says, okay. It's a little like that too. Yeah. It's a little bit Lil Jon. Make an animatronic in too. Yeah. He's swimming around out there. It's one of the seats if they had a Lori animatronic like Rex and C-3PO or Practical Robots, if

they had one inside the ride too, not just the narration. But then you would have to, because you're facing out the porthole, so you'd have to like turn back to look at him well yeah like real life it would be so realistic so if you get the bonus seat you're sitting next to the robot excuse me sir and he imagined he would

put a little chalk M on his shoulder as like a little nod a little easter egg for the film buffs what's this a kid just came in here and vomited and diarrhea all over the cockpit their diarrhea all over a child has thrown up again oh did you say this

yeah that would be great and there's like a guy doing lori like remotely yeah like like the i see it's your birthday from the button That would be great. And there's like a guy doing Lori like remotely. Yeah. Like the fun found. I see it's your birthday from the button. Oh, hello. Little Jason. Hello. Welcome to Anatholis.

Hey, thanks, Peter. Lori? Connell? Or whatever your parents' name is? You're the only child who knows who I am. You're my favorite. I love you, Peter. I never thought I could like the parks more but with you here peter oh yeah i think jason does the voice and you do it just from a webcam from

your bed you this is a job you have all day every day and they have to reinstall the submarines to make this happen congratulations on your nuptials tear up poop what's it called touch place yeah rip it all up put it exactly the way it was yep only change the narration do you want a picture with eeyore drew and kanga or peter lorry late character actor Peter Lorre is that Vincent Price's voice coming from him well I think we've solved it I think we've solved it with this run of obscure actors and

children diareeing with all this Stoney Sharp You've Survived podcast this was a blast thank you for just like 20,000 Leagues With all this, Stoney Sharp, you've survived podcast the ride. Hey, thanks, guys. This was a blast. Thank you. Just like 20,000 Leagues, there's a bunch of disconnected stories

that got turned into a big arc. I think that's what you did for this podcast. Your 20,000 Leagues journey was beautiful, and I'm glad you got closure. Yeah, thank you. It was wonderful to hear it. I did. Can I hit you with one factoid?

Yes. They have to constantly stop people from spreading their ashes in the Haunted Mansion. closure yeah it's wonderful to wonderful to hear it i did can i hit you with one factoid yes yeah they have to constantly stop people from spreading their ashes in the haunted mansion oh yeah i've heard that yeah to be the stop it and clean it up then when it happens thank you for having me it means a lot to me so keep those ashes at if we when this ride's reopened save them save them for what they're for putting in a bunch of ink that'll be printed as a comic book like that's what ashes are for starting anything you'd like to plug while you're here oh um well i mean i guess you could look up the defunct highland park tv you could see You could see The Who Was show On Netflix Oh yeah

You could see Hood Adjacent You could see Stoney Sharp At everything Twitter, Instagram Cool And everything you guys do

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Oh, well. You could see a lot of my movies on Netflix if you're the disc-only service. Some of them are on Hoopla or Canopy if you have a library card. Your local library, mainly. I'm probably buried in Hollywood forever or Forest Lawn. Dig up my ashes. Dig up my ashes. Do with them

what you will. Hold on to these papers while I run. I'll be back for them. Also, you guys kids, look up Peter Lorre. Look up Peter Lorre.

He's actually great. He's the best. Check out his grave and thanks for listening and so long. Check out my grave. Goodbye. Goodbye.

Goodbye.