Podcast: The Ride - Alice in Wonderland

Episode Date: July 26, 2019

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Forever Dog land ride we're through the looking glass it's podcast the ride so Welcome to Podcast The Ride, hosted by three very good boys who immediately leave the Alice in Wonderland ride and narc on the hookah-smoking caterpillar. I'm Scott Gerner, joined by Mike Carlson. Yeah, Mike Carlson here. And Jason Sheridan. Jason, yeah, I don't like it.

I don't care for it. It's clearly like some funny stuff in there. You're not supposed to do that inside. In fact, you're not supposed to do it in the parks at all anymore. Security, they've been actually, I've been looking into it and they've taken a lot of the smoking areas away. So, I find it a little offensive that on the ride, there's somebody not only smoking, but smoking and making vowels with his smoke. I'm offended by his language. He's flaunting it. He's being flashy

about his brazen breaking of the rules. And I don't care for it. It's only going to lead to more of that kind of thing. Yeah. And it's not tobacco. It can't be tobacco. Yeah. Is it weed, though? What is it?

Oga is traditionally a kind of tobacco. Yeah. Is it weed though? What is it? Ooga is traditionally a kind of tobacco. Yeah, but I'm saying with this caterpillar, this is not. Oh, who knows? It's probably opium. Yeah, okay. That actually makes a lot more sense. Or opium mixed in with tobacco. When we're dealing with the twisted mind of Lewis Carroll.

The twisted mind of Lewis Carroll. What twisted mind of Lewis Carroll. What's the thing? Sean William Scott and Ashton Kutcher. Or Tweedledee and Tweedledum. That's good. Yeah, actually. I like to see that.

That's good. Rachel E. Cook as Alice. Man, this is great. I'm trying to cast from like the She's All That era. You're putting this in 2001. DJ Qualls DJ Qualls who's DJ Qualls

Seth Green is the king of hearts oh yes but they kind of like shrunk him down with bad CGI like it doesn't look good and the queen is already laying in drag oh my god that's outrageous I don't know if he would have gotten that part I don't know Doesn't look good. And the queen is already laying in drag. Oh, my God. Oh, wow.

Yeah. That's outrageous. I don't know if he would have gotten that part. No. I don't know. Maybe. I don't know. He was in some movies here and there.

Yeah. Yeah. It would have to have been like, there was like six months where he could have gotten that. Yes. Like six months. If he was on his best behavior and yeah, quick little window. Like Norm Show season two.

There's a six month window we're already like would have been cast uh yes as the queen and norm's the uh the mad hatter norm is a mad hatter the mad hatter that's an impression of shitty norm impressions is what it is um hey well you know before we get into uh today's topic this ride one of the disneyland dark rides um you know in the the alice tale kicks off with her you know trying these potions these little you know they eat me and the drink me. Right. And I realized that's maybe that's a fun way to start our little journey to try a little experimental spirit. What? As it were. Yes, indeed.

You're giving me weird looks here, but allow me to explain. I've not that long ago, I was in Las Vegas. Right. Real life wonderland. Oh, my gosh. You I was in Las Vegas. Right. Real life wonderland, huh? Mm-hmm. Oh, my gosh. You have things in this bag? What's that?

Do you have things for us? I do. Oh, my gosh. I do have things in the bag, and I can explain. So, I was on my way to the Bally's Resort, which, by the way, I mean, I'll say this separately. I was going to the Twilight Zone mini golf course by Monster Mini Golf, the same place that made the Kiss mini golf. If anybody's been on that. I have. Or been to that.

And yeah, yeah. I think that was really great. I think it's moved. It's at one of the casinos now. I forget which. It was across the street from Hard Rock Hotel? Yes. I believe it is not anymore.

I think it's part of a casino complex now. And now Bally's has a second one, the Twilight Zone, which I would highly recommend. It's a lot of fun. This place does good stuff. Some great characters and great black light, much like today's attraction as well.

And relatively cheap, I will say, for it being a strip attraction. Right. You get out of there without spending a ton. Is there anybody looking for weird stuff to do in Vegas? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They do take your ball at the end. You don't get to take that home, unfortunately. I know, I know.

You're not buying a ball for that price. But so, I was on my way into Bally's. And what should I see? Jump out at me in the shopping center in front of Bally's. But one of our beloved CityWalk stores, It's Sugar. It's Sugar. Oh, yes. Now in front of the Bally's hotel.

And I didn't realize until I got home, that is a brand new Bally's. Not Bally's. Bally's is not new. Brand new It's Sugar. Only opened in June. Wow. They consider it a flagship location only the second location on the strip there's already one at the venetian uh but now there's this new gigantic at sugar uh which is very theme parky in general when you end up going to vegas again uh i mean i guess maybe I shouldn't spoil everything, but you can see

gigantic nerds made of nerds. Yes, that got a gasp out of you. I was hoping it would. You can get a picture with a big jelly belly on a bench. That's good. Yeah, there's tons of big theme park-y figures and stuff.

But there was something that jumped out at me and something that I haven't seen in the city walk it sugar maybe it's a new thing maybe they do have it but I was like I have to bring this home to the guys and we have to we have to give this a try and here give me a sec let me pull it out

what I have with me what a treat get ready for urine yeah have you seen urine before what a treat get ready for urine yeah have you seen urine before just a few minutes ago in fact your own urine this is clinical looking yes

it the urine comes in a sample jar like you would yes and on the back a little form name reason time date jar like you would be into yes and on the back a little form name reason time date and a sterile

sticker sterile interior if the seal is not broken but this is a jar of some strange yellow liquid of candy piss candy piss is what I hold in my hand hashtag candy piss the the official name of this product is

Urine for a Treat. Whoa. And this was also one of the eye-popping displays at the New Vegas at Sugar. This is one of 50 that were all overflowing out of a urinal attached to the wall.

Wait, a full regular sized urinal or a novelty sized urinal? I would call it more novelty. Okay. Although urinals can be large if they go down to the floor. But this was a mounted one, not a floor length one. So they're all in on selling candy piss. This isn't just like we're trying it out for a while.

Yeah, this is like a permanent part. It's a load bearing uh just up on the pillar of the store i feel like uh uh mike and i were talking about vegas recently and i was pulling up pictures of the it was vince neal's tatuado uh drink party where they briefly served drinks in uh plastic toilet cups oh or maybe it was it was E-Drink Party and Tatuado is the current Vince Neal restaurant at Circus Circus. Should I get a cup while you're talking? Well, I mean, that's...

Or do we each have a piss? How do we consume this urine? I mean, it's... I also... If we just want to dip forks, I have forks with me. I don't know. I mean, how do... Wait, is it thick? Here. Can you see it turning? Not really. I know what you mean by forks

though, but I feel like it needs a sip. It could be like honey. You could dip. But it's viscous. Maybe we should do it like it's heroin with a spoon. Yeah, that's good. We dip a little bit into a spoon.

Should I get some spoon? I should have warned you. I'm sorry, but I wanted to spring this here. So, now you can hear me cracking the seal so you know that this urine has not been contaminated. It has not been... It is still sterilized in as much as... But, yeah, apparently the toilet cups were briefly popular. And for a while, they had a version where you would drink out of the bowl or your food would be in the bowl and then the tank would have your drink.

We'll pass it down. We'll pass it down. Okay. Right. Okay. Here. Now they're here. I'm breaking the seal.

No longer sterile. And okay. Great. So, yeah. Maybe you stay standing and you can hand this to Jason. Lewis Carroll himself could not have predicted this level of whimsy and decadence. I mean, he was perverted, but... Okay, let me take a little dip here.

Hmm. I mean, it feels like... It looks like medicine or it looks like honey. We'll document this in some... You take and then take it to Jason. I'll take a picture. Take a picture of this process. And at home, if you're In Las Vegas already get your own

Piss Edwin is lined up To get his piss Yeah this is gonna be a bit Alright Scott you take yours Mike take the cup and the spoon Okay Lindsey's walked in And is staring daggers

Maybe just put it In Jason's mouth maybe just feed jason wait but wait let me let me take a photo of this too uh sorry listener uh uh we should have walked in on a candy piss again thank you thank you my boy hang on here we go okay a photo and edwin's in there too that's fantastic okay let's oh yeah here and you do it too mike so we there's not too much of a delay i'm gonna take a big spoonful of this here we go uh hey let me say officially mike jason eat my piss you want to say finally

oof oh it tastes like medicine so it tastes like a yellow medicine i did have to drink out of a bottle like that that is awful that is really sour mike is very unhappy like you left lemon heads in the car and they melted in and you like took it mike is eating an actual lemon now for relief. That's not a joke. From like an old Dunkin Donuts cup. I crave the smooth taste of lemon to combat that. You want more?

I think I need another. We'll get up then. I think that I don't because my teeth are rotting already. It's a rare candy that rots your teeth instantly. I will say I have a canker sore in my mouth. Oh no. And it really inflamed it.

It's like medicine except it fucks up your mouth problems more. Yeah. It's an ulcer. Jason has a hell bite too. Not great. Better because I used the end of the spoon, so I got very little. I sometimes, sometimes some people say like, I don't like this food because of the texture. And sometimes I'm like, I'm like, it's a real asshole and I'm skeptical.

And I'm like, well, the texture doesn't really bother me. I will say that's maybe the most unpleasant texture I've ever put in my mouth. Because it's somewhere between. It is not as thick as maple syrup or something. Yeah. Though it is a little more solid and it is certainly not just pure water or soda. Right. It's a really uncanny valley of liquid consistency.

At first, I thought, oh, it's going to be like gelatin. Mm-hmm. And it's not. It is like syrup. Yeah. From a distance, it looked very watery and then when i got up close i was like oh this is syrup it has the same color as like some like very intense medicine i had to take when i was like very ill in high school like i had to go to the hospital and get fluids and like that sort of thing and they're like you have to take

this for a week and it's just like oh it tastes bad yeah oh my get fluids and like that sort of thing. And they're like, you have to take this for a week. And it's just like, oh, it tastes bad. Yeah. Oh, my God. So, it's the kind of thing you would only eat for survival. Yeah. If it meant not dying. That's going to go on our earthquake kit.

Unless you guys want to take it. Did you just find? You've been looking to accrue things for a year. We've had that earthquake thing for a while. We just had an earthquake a couple weeks ago. Two. So, you know things are bad when you're subsisting on that urine. You're drinking candy piss.

Before you get to your own. Would you maybe, would you choose your own piss over this fake piss? I do think my own piss would be more pleasant than this candy piss. I think so, too. You know what it is. Yeah, and it's the liquid. It's just like liquid, at least. Not this bizarre in

between that you're dealing with here yeah I would you know I think the hotness of piss would be the trouble for me but maybe I kind of pre do it let it cool down a little well you would piss into a glass with ice yeah assuming that in this like

emergency scenario ice is still available aren't there those things where you like break it open and it turns icy Assuming that in this emergency scenario, ice is still available. Aren't there those things where you break it open and it turns icy? Am I making something up? Yeah, for pain relief, not for eating. Yeah, there you go. It's for your back. Yeah, yeah.

But you could use it to cool your piss in a disaster. I suppose, yeah. Yeah, there are refree, there are like refreezable like liquid things that you can put in a pitcher or something. Yeah, because there's a thing like for my, there's a back thing that we have where you like snap it and it like turns things on and off and it heats. Oh, sure. So, if you use one of those not to

relieve an injury but wrapped a cup of your piss and that would, I think that what I'm describing would taste better than what we just yeah i mean thanks for thinking of us yeah thank you that is nice you know when i saw that urinal full of these samples yeah oh my god in the hot in a hot desert uh you also talked about like bringing back like uh italian meat delicious ital Italian meats and cheese. Oh, yes, that's true. I went to Italy and then I and I and then I had a flight that day and I didn't have to do the full security screening.

So, yes, I in my bag was both. Yeah, like fantastic prosciutto de Parma and the sealed sealed candy. That's Vegas, baby piss That's Vegas baby That's Vegas I know it's supposed to stay there But hey I'm talking about it I brought it home with me My last question About the candy piss is

Is it to Was there intention to like obviously make it look gross But then you'd have and you go oh this is delicious Or is the idea that it's Going to be like oh we're all eating a gross thing And it's like a little bit unpleasant of course it's just sugar because it's also not like so vile it's not like right it's not like a joke like fart flavor right yeah have you have we had any in in any of our sugar wanderings did we ever have some nobody had like a one of the poop candies or something no i've had the had the Jelly Belly, like the Bertie Botts, Harry Potter jelly beans.

And every now and then there's like grass or booger or like... Yeah, those are unpleasant. Those are unpleasant but won't kill you. But this is just... That just feels like nothing. This is... I don't even know like how are you meant to consume. Like I feel like if I took a sip i'd be really upset like it seems like a thing you would you would open the lid and then sip from it but like

it doesn't dripping yeah down yeah is that with you both with facial hair thank god you didn't just dive in and then you've got piss in your yeah i also wonder like why couldn't it just be like a yellow soda sure is it just it wouldn't look right into in the container maybe like well you never see better yeah i think the fact that because any like soda is usually contained in such a way that you can't like quite see the flavor inside you know the bottles are dark like uh vitamin water yellow vitamin water looks like that doesn't it yeah that's true why is it that i don't know if it's that thick piss yellow i guess that's why it just has to be thicker because piss is thicker than vitamin water this is thicker than

water uh that was very unpleasant all right i wasn't yeah i wasn't sure it was gonna go that way it seemed possible to me that like oh and then it's kind of a fun little lemon treat. But that was very bad. Very unpleasant. And perhaps unpleasant to listen to because we said the word piss a lot. Yeah. Sorry about that if you're piss sensitive. We've really gone down the rabbit hole.

Or any listeners who enjoy drinking piss and are offended that we've spoken ill of it. So, yeah. Either way. It's an acquired taste not a flavor We apologize either way enjoy I apologize To you guys I suppose But I would still recommend A trip to the flagship at sugar For fine products like that I just want To know what else they're working on is there

Like a do they have blood they sell candy Blood already right oh yeah I think so So what other Fluids? Never mind There's only so many Let's just talk about Alice in Wonderland Let's now talk about Alice in Wonderland

Let's open the big door Do you guys feel like anything's happening to you? Do you feel like you're growing 10 feet tall From that consumption of urine? No Is your mind open now? Do you feel like you're growing 10 feet tall from that consumption of urine? No. Is your mind open now? I feel like I'm coming off of a lot of opium. I feel like I've got the shakes and I'm sweating.

I do have a weird feeling in my... I think that could have provoked a headache. I'm not sure. The lemon, I really... As if I did a shot of tequila, I took the lemon afterward. I would rather tequila. You want that alcohol aftertaste without the taste? Oh, yeah.

Someone give me some rubbing alcohol, please. I need something. Ew. Oh, boy. Well, yeah. Let's swing from that to what I think is a pretty fun and pleasant ride. Alice in Wonderland. Alice in Wonderland.

Disneyland. And no other parks, interestingly. Exclusive to Disneyland. Disneyland dark ride exclusive. One of the only dark rides that's only in one park. Yeah. 51 years old. Opened June 14th, 1958.

Same day as the sailing ship Columbia. Important day for you. An important day for me. Fun fact. When it opened, the sailing ship Columbia cost $300,000, which in today's money would be over $2 million.

That's still pretty cheap. That's one hundredth of Galaxy's Edge. Yeah, that is true. Not even more. Wait, no, I'm not even close. I think they're both a billion dollars, both Galaxy's Edge. I think that's what Jim Hill said. He always says that i think they're both a billion dollars both galaxies edge i think that's what jim hill said or over a bit that's what he always says like that's what they admit they've spent on both parts both parts so like it's possible it's over a billion dollars when

you factor in like movie budgets are like oh and then there's marketing on top of that uh yeah and then the i assume to fix rise of the, which we haven't even talked about is opening next year, which is just insane. But it's not without precedent, of course, but still, I just want to go on the goddamn ride. Yeah, I know. When the Disney World gets it before us. And yet after we've been there for our live show, tickets available now, maybe. Hopefully, yeah.

Or they're not. They're not. Go get them fast. That was Mike's theory your theory was that like you maybe they would let you know that would be a surprise for people going to the parks panel well that's a wristband to go on

rise of the resistance they usually do that kind of fun thing at d23 and like you at one time I got a world of color fast pass for the new show for that night and they do fun stuff like that and Jim Hill was saying that they wanted it open just at least for D23 weekend so people would go

on it whether they're going to do that like kind of fun event or not but no instead of that six months later yeah so there's only one fun choice for D23 weekend which is to come see the podcast the ride Gang at the Anaheim Hotel. The night before.

Don't do it after the parks panel. Come do it the night before. That's when we're actually there. Do it when we're doing it. Hit up the pizza press beforehand. Design your own pizza. It's very fun. I feel like you love the design

your own pizza. He loves pizza press. I like the concept. I do think pizza press is feel like you are you love The designer on pizza I like that well He loves pizza press I like The concept I do think pizza press is One of the better ones if you remember At City Walk I really beefed It with Blaze okay And I'm still not quite sure how Much of that was them and how much was me But

You've been working it out with your therapist I'm still trying to figure it out You'll crack it one day so this Alice in Wonderland you know what I was going to say is did they ever do you think they looked at the numbers for Galaxy's Edge and thought maybe we should just build 200

more Columbia's like for this price yeah I think that yeah more ships all parts every bit of empty space cram his ships bob jay pack now he's crunching the numbers on the ships um this ride is uh this is kind of a creeper for me in that uh not in the lewis carroll way in the uh it's a creeper on my list of uh favorite dark rides it's i depending on the day i could even maybe list this as my as my number one of the disneyland five of the disneyland five do you say that okay like okay i guess if that's how you feel oh i didn't intend to okay i'm not

processing uh the thing my mouth still feels bad oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's going to be a subtext to all this. We're dealing with it. We are still, yeah, yeah. I would not disagree with that. I have always been a big Mr. Toad kid and I was so delighted when I came out here and found it was still here after it had been tragically closed in Florida. I might still have to call it that, but I think it's, those two are vying for one too for me. I mean, this has so many unique elements to it too that kind of set it apart.

Yeah. for one too for me i mean this has so many unique elements to it too that kind of set it apart yeah i i if the location of it for whatever reason i don't go on it that much but it's not fair to it like because it is really good and it is one of the best ones well i yeah i never feel like waiting in that line but that's a great one if you're there in that last hour and it's sort of thinning out because those quitter kids have all left yes um and i ended up doing this was actually the first thing that i went to in this bizarre night that i told you guys about but i didn't go i didn't talk about on the show that uh i ended up at i was like that was a disneyland solo and i was like kind of looking forward to like yeah you know i'll take off early and uh you know just like that was a good quick little trip that was nice I got to Mickey and Friends it was full

to the brim because there was an accident two exits up the five and the I was looking at the map and the freeway was mostly fine it was mainly affecting Mickey and Friends because like it was like a degree of traffic

that would have been okay were there not you know like thousands and thousands of people leaving one location with only one way out at the same so I got to Mickey and friends saw the crowd nope never mind went straight back onto the tram and I went straight to Alice in Wonderland which probably put this in my brain and I thought we should talk about this thing what was the weight 15 maybe less maybe like 10 wow yeah and i think it's a nice uh area to hang especially at night like that's an area that you maybe don't want to do in a hot summer sun but at night with those mad tea party lanterns and the matterhorn looks cool at night i think that's and that's another thing

real estate wise that you get in the shadow of the Matterhorn and when you come out On that second layer The Matterhorn off in the distance It's a cool little pocket over there Yeah it is I went on this A couple weeks ago with a friend of the show Andrew Grissom and then we went on

The teacups right after this was like the last 15 minutes so we crammed We were like can we do teacups right at the was like the last 15 minutes so we crammed we were like can we do teacups right at the end and we got it like two minutes before nice um and yeah hell yeah what a hell yeah rock and roll great midnight teacup ride

two badass bros two cool boys uh yeah I think I yeah at night this is one of those I I like it looks okay during the day, but at night it looks amazing. Yeah. I kind of feel like the outside of the ride looks okay during the day. It's not my favorite visually of like the queue and like of the exterior, but at night it's awesome.

I don't know well you know that might be a point in mr toad's favor that that the little like the little outdoor courtyard part of that line is pretty neat and then you get inside and that uh that wooden toad statue and you're uh you know you're you're looking at the bookcase uh the entry area yeah so maybe that might be an argument that notches it over to toad but right because the area of about round alice doesn't beckon me until the night at night i feel beckoned by it but not during the day not that i just go oh there's that like cramped little line and like oh yeah oh yeah the outside looks okay and then i then i remember, it's a great ride. It's a great dark ride. You know what I think you got to give it some credit for is that I think you're correct today.

But I think that in 58, when it opened, think about how this was not the new Fantasyland that Tony Baxter oversaw in the 80s. When Fantasyland opened, it was much of these these flat carnival exteriors and then this thing joins three years after and it's a much more dynamic exterior than all of them with the rut with the with the caterpillars coming down that big vine you call it a vine or a leaf trail i don't know what you'd call it but i think it was a super dynamic exterior compared to the other ones in uh right at the time for sure yeah and it's two stories yeah coming out on the top the majority of the ride is this takes place over top of mr toad yeah which i never knew you were above mr toad and then the strange is where the duplex uh of attractions uh that's a

good did i didn't see this when i was looking it up, but is it a situation where if a fire alarm gets pulled on Toad, they have to shut Alice down? I would think. Because that's the problem they're having with Avatar is that the river ride and flight of passage are in the same building. So, if a fire alarm gets pulled in one of them, they have to shut both rides down, which just destroys capacity for the land for an hour. The whole park, I'm sure. So, I wonder if that's the same situation or maybe it just rarely happens. It's interesting this ride got built at all because the Alice movie was considered a flop on its first release in 1951. Really?

Disney himself thought the problem was it didn't have a lot of heart. The movie has multiple directors, I believe five credited directors. Really? Yeah. And so, like, he threw it on, like, an early episode of the Disneyland TV

show. He, like, tossed it on there. They cut it down to an hour. Cut it down to an hour. Whoa. And then the re-releases is tossed it on there. They cut it down to an hour. Cut it down to an hour. And then the re-releases is when it got successful. Especially during the psychedelic 60s. Oh yes. And they re-released it with that in mind. Yeah. Nodded to like

for Disney oddly cheeky to nod to the Jefferson Airplane White Rabbit song. I watched a video, a Yesterworld video that was talking about a lot of this stuff. And there's like clips of Alice in Wonderland. And let me, this is a realization I had as I was looking all this stuff up. I love Alice in Wonderland.

And I didn't remember. If you asked me last week, I would have said, oh, yeah, I like some of it. I liked it. I apparently love Alice in Wonderland The movie the Disney movie Because as I was watching this and then I went and just watched Clips from the movie I went oh yeah Like I guess I haven't watched this in

25 years but so many Just like the shot of Alice looking Through the handles On the teak on the teapots I was like oh my god I just started like getting child okay i was like oh my god like i just started like getting child memories of like oh awesome awesome all like her in the room shrinking growing big with the doorknob i remember just being fascinated by this yeah and it was dormant in me up until

hours like days ago i think i re-watchedwatched when Netflix very first started streaming a lot of the old, old Disney movies like six or seven years ago. I rewatched a bunch and I was shocked at how similarly, how much I enjoyed Alice. The characters are fantastic. The characters are great. The design is great. The colors are amazing. And then

I was shocked how short it is. It's only 75 minutes long. But it moves and everything. It's all great minutes long. Oh. But it moves and everything. It moves. It's all great voice actors. All the character designs are specific. All the sequences are very, very imaginative because it's a trippy movie. Sorry to correct myself.

There were three credited directors, but 13 people had the story by credit. Wow. Wow. Jeez. Yeah. So, that was another criticism of the time of like, oh, is it too just jointed? Are there too many cooks on this one? I guess the fact that it is all of these little like disconnected sequences in a way.

Maybe that was the Walt's like insecurity at the time was like there's not this big story that you feel this emotion about. But I think maybe I liked it for that reason. Because I I you know my favorite things as a kid were specials and whatever and Sesame Street which is a new thing every two minutes and so I think I liked it for that reason that it was like a lot of like just choppy little odd episodes

I think that's the source material is split up and Alice's adventures in Wonderland and through the looking glass is kind of split up into chunks sure yeah so I yeah everything the queen of when she's playing croquet I was like I love this yeah I forgot I loved this the painting of the roses

has just a real I just have some like baby brain attachment to I just think that's neat somehow for sure I think all of that stuff and I honestly going on this the ride a couple weeks ago it didn't necessarily unlock what i felt watching the clips of the movie so okay i still really like the ride i just so it

didn't quite i didn't remember yet that i loved alice in wonderland so i love so it's official i love alice in wonderland the disney movie sure and you adore the two tim Burton ones, right? No, I didn't say that. They're twisted. I did not say that. Hugely popular internationally. Oh, yeah. Very successful. The second one?

The second one, I don't think as much, but still probably made a money. Probably not as much, but there's like a walkthrough garden at the Shanghai Disney. Oh, yes. In Shanghai, the attraction is the gigantic Helena Bonham Carter head. Yes. Which is a rare case of the live action remake getting the parks treatment over the cartoon. Yeah. I walked by a Lion King cart at California Adventure and I was like, why is it stupid old simple Simba and not the fully dimensionalized, the photo real lion that I love?

Why is this my dad's Simba? I want this real lion that can't really open its mouth. I don't want the one voice by James Earl Jones. I want the one voice by James Earl Jones. I guess we are wrong. The second one only made 300 million and the first one made a billion. Yikes. Wow.

I mean, it's still a lot of money, but That's one Star Wars land. Yeah. One is a massive hit and the other is like... Great drop-offs. And who would ever blame them for making a sequel? Right. They'd be like, this is a slam dunk. Yeah. What does that have... is that one of those people

that didn't actually like it as much as they thought? Yeah, maybe. Maybe the Johnny Depp syndrome, they were saying. That's not true. That was. Is that internationally?

I don't think that. But, the Fantastic Beasts had a very similar drop off. Yeah, but this is years before that. Yeah.

I don't, and I think especially, I don't know who was keeping, I don't know why that's why the latest tollerant vampires cd as opposed to you know the first one sold 1200 copies this one only sold the 9 950 yeah so johnny that precipitous drop that effect let's let's his personal life just more like I think people are a little that coincides with people

being burned out on him. It's going to be him. He's going to be doing a voice. Doesn't have the same effects that it used to. People have been let down by those a number of times. Remember when we all watched the Kevin Smith film in which

he appears. Yoga Hosers. Yoga Hosers, yes. We started fast forwarding through it. Yikes almighty. The listener might not have heard those words. They might not know that Johnny Depp is in this film. And you might watch it and you might not even see him. But keep an eye on a certain plastic looking man. Your favorite character from Tusk might make a reappearance.

Is it the same character? It's the same private detective character. What? This is a second View Askew universe? There is a second View Askew universe that has the Tusk yoga hosers and then isn't there one more? Or did it not get

made? I don't think the third one got made. So Red State is not in this second View Askew universe? No, I think Red State stands alone. Okay. I forgot about Red State. I, Red State is not in this second view of skewers? No, I think Red State stands alone. Okay. I forgot about Red State. I watched Red State too. Man. And it's not...

Why am I having... Why is the Johnny Depp detective movie... Oh. Mordecai. The one you love. Mordecai. Thank you. He's not playing Mordecai in these either. That's a different universe uh i would you also believe that the these uh you know red state and yoga hosers also not represented in the disney park shop did they buy did disney buy those do they own some of it via

miramax no miramax isn't some miramax isn't really them anymore. Yeah, right. They sold that. So, that's a whole. But then, yeah. We'll have to look into that. Don't know. Yes. Candy, you're an update. My teeth are starting to hurt.

What? Yeah, I've got a bad feeling in the back of my throat. Got a bad feeling in my molars. Are we sick now? I drugged you unknowingly. I'm sorry. But maybe we don't even realize how good and crazy this episode is. And people tell us, you didn't even know.

You were tripping. And you just thought that your teeth hurt. But really, you were on the right of your lives. One pill makes you larger. One pill makes you small, you know? I'm going to set my Dexter. Another makes your throat taste like shit. The urine now is sitting on this table

I have next to the couch right by Dexter Jexter, my Dexter Jexter toy from Attack of the Clones. The diner owner from Attack of the Clones. And as soon as I see him start moving, that's the sign. You know, looking at it earlier, I did get the feeling of when like the

Ghostbusters are trepidatiously standing around the ooze and then Ray makes the toaster dance. Ghostbusters 2. Okay. Yeah. That's right. They realize it can be positive as well. But right now, still at the negative feeling towards it. If Dexter starts scooping up that urine and using it in some recipes.

So, if i play higher and higher jackie wilson jackie wilson's higher and higher than maybe being pure something good will happen something good something pure am i quoting that correctly that is correct yeah he says this line like get a gunpoint way you can tell he's kind of like i don't think i'd like the narrative thrust of this movie as much he's checked out already I think so yeah But he will be in the new one you think Mm-hmm he's now like

Just when I'll do whatever you want I mean He'd probably be like till to two days on it Hmm he's not gonna be in the other One too he did the other one he did the Press for the other one mm-hmm Oh yeah that's right right yeah So like I don't know. He probably needs money.

He owns a minor league baseball team. That's one of those things that you would think like like, you know, Bill Murray press on the internet is so oh my god, Jesus Christ hath risen again Bill fucking Murray

and then like, oh my god god he's gonna be in the new one and he was and nobody cares and then it'll be like yeah if he's in the new one again people go holy shit stop the fucking presses bill and then he will be in no one like that either and they'll be the same thing again yeah no the mist that's another am i wrong mystique there might be the bill murray effect is what you're referring to, where there's diminishing returns. I think, yes, similar to the Johnny Depp effect. Yes, there's a Bill Murray effect. But there will never, never be a diminishing amount of blog articles about Bill Murray doing anything and bothering people at parties.

Being annoying. Yeah. Running around being annoying. Getting away with it. Well, I guess I apologize. Look, look hey we like things he used to do uh this has nothing to do with i'm not trying to form an anti-bill murray stance uh no but it's an anti-bill murray culture stance i think that's it i yes it's the culture that's the problem wandering 60ering 60-something-year-old man. But you kind of liked him as Baloo. I did like him as Baloo.

All right. That's good stuff still. I'm not as big of a fan of him like roaming from town to town, touching people and saying, you'll never believe that I was here. But that's the story where he- But if Baloo the bear walked in and said, you never believe I was here. That'd be amazing. You'll never believe what a

terrible father I was in real life. Blue's saying that? You regret this time with Mowgli? Didn't do a good job. My little buddy boy. Great pilot though. Great pilot.

Kept Don Carnage in check. So Alice. Alice in wonderland uh always happy to see uh uh an edwin vehicle edwin of course and alice is a mad hatter yeah which was a newer edition during the 1980s re-update yeah like they didn't talk before uh well they did it was like nightmare okay so the original version of this was a nightmare. That's the revelation of the Yesterworld video, which I didn't know. Because old Claude Coates. Oh, Claude

Coates was involved. Wanted to make it creepy. And Claude Coates was the person responsible for Snow White's scary adventures in Florida being so scary. Yeah. And the scarier part of the Haunted Mansion. The Haunted Mansion. The earlier stuff in the Haunted Mansion. Okay, okay.

Right, right, right. Because it was Mark Davis and Claude Coates who ultimately both had the biggest influence on when they finally decided on what they were doing with Haunted Mansion. And Claude wanted it scary. Mark wanted it whimsical. Okay, okay. And Claude was a real creep. I mean, I'm just saying like a fun crew.

Yeah, yeah. I know. I don't saying like a fun crew. Yeah. I know. I don't know anything about him personally. Well, because you got to, you know, I mean, because I was looking up Claude Coates stuff in relation to this and it is very impressive that he was like he was a background painter on so many of the early animated films. And then he, you know, one of those that we talk about where Walt says, all right, you're going here now.

And he just without missing a beat, does it. I read an interview where he talked about how it was basically like with Disneyland set to open in a couple months. Walt says, hey, will you come down and maybe do some painting and stuff? And then the story changes to, hey, that professional scenic painting company that I hired, they only have time to do Peter Pan and Snow White. So, you got to paint Mr. Toad. And he's, he says, well, so I was going from a medium that was 20 inches to 18 feet. Like he's completely shifting the kind of painting he's doing.

He did an incredible job. And I think he worked on all the other ones too. So he worked on the first three dark rides and then this was his chance to go to town and design it all yeah Ken Anderson also in a similar boat where like worked on the original movies painting the original movies and then he's painting the rides you know weird and that it's some of the same people

from like he paint that he did backgrounds on Snow White and then his you know a couple decades later doing the same go take you back into that world but in a whole other medium pretty nice um but it's to where like this guy it's all him the exterior is him the way it plays out the story is him the track layout is him and the vehicle is him like the sketches are claude codes right and i found a story about that where he wanted the right vehicles to be playing cards he showed that to walt walt said i don't like it do a caterpillar and then he

sketched up a caterpillar by the end of the day and that was that and then they somebody came around and said we need you to fill out a form to uh because we have to patent this vehicle and he said i wouldn't feel right patenting it. It was Walt's idea. Wow. They actually said, no, no, no. You will be on the patent. And for that, he got an extra $10 from the company.

Wow. But the patent office has, you know, like a very clinical drawing of you can't make your own caterpillar vehicle that's cool yeah yeah stuff it does seem like because snow white scary adventure is the one everyone talks about as being really scary and i obviously didn't go on this original version i was not alive nor did i visit disneyland till the 2000s um but it does have a similar vibe from the pictures that are in that yesterworld video

of like of like a little twisted in relation to actually what the character designs were like he was going for something like surreal a little surreal and a little scarier what you like because the cheshire cat is a like a warped version of the Cheshire Cat. And I think it seems like it's on purpose. With like gigantic pupils. Yeah. Like super dilated. Like what's happening to us as this urine kicks in. Right.

You guys look crazy. Have you looked in a mirror lately? And it seems like it's focused, much like Snow White, it focuses on like the scary stuff versus the fun stuff. Yeah. Yes. Like the Mad Tea Party.

There's no fun element of it. It's just big cutouts of the March of the March Hare and the Manhattan. It's their giant heads and the smiling demonic smiles. Yeah. Noise. Unsettling noises supposedly. And just like there's the flowers look creepy as hell it's like jump out at you if there's there's spinning teapots or teacups in this ride there

aren't any more in the original version and they're spinning wildly and it kind of looks like they're going to slam into your vehicle which i like i think they should have put that in still that's kind of cool that's one of the things I was like I get why this can't be like weird and surreal Anymore but I was like those teacups sound fun Yeah It reminded me a little bit of the Pooh's Honey Hunt With the trackless vehicles

Yeah That shoot a character car at you And I was yeah I was thinking of that When I watched a different video and forgive me i don't have the credit for it but some some other videos said that in the early days the mad tea party that the characters might come in and like join you in their car like jason tried to do with a couple on the inside out emotional whirlwind i went on my own emotional whirlwind. Step one shame.

Now, this was a ride I forgot to mention when we talked about emotional whirlwind. When they rethemed that, they flew it to Italy to be redesigned because that's where the manufacturer was. Really? This ride they were able to do in Anaheim. But there's been, you know, Jim and Len were talking recently about how long it takes Imagineering to announce something and then get it built and opened. Maybe it's the flying stuff to Italy is slowing stuff down. I feel like they did the new fantasy land in the 80s reasonably quickly. They just banged it out.

In the grand scheme of things. Yeah, yeah. They blew it up. They blew a big They blew it up they blew a big hole Yeah they blew a big hole Speaking of that big holes I saw pictures in that Yesterworld video I had never seen what it actually looked like

When they were redoing everything Me neither yeah It's chaos It's scary Cause like they gutted those dark rides in Fantasyland When they were making new Fantasyland And there's just a big chunk taken out of the castle I don't know where he got these photos

Because I've never seen them before But they're just It's terrifying It's like what everyone imagines Like the post-apocalyptic theme park looks like And it's just a castle piece A castle gutted Just empty thing

Because they took everything out of those dark rides to redo them which is what tony baxter has talked about that he like when it was in that state he was looking around like what have i done and i can totally i mean i knew it in the abstract but now seeing the pictures i would if i was standing in there i'd go oh my god yeah that would be traumatic that's traumatic well imagine if like a kid somehow got a view of that Because the park never closed But to redo Fantasyland in the 80s They did close all of Fantasyland

And they lifted the drawbridge So nobody could go into Fantasyland And if a kid had somehow snuck in there and gotten a view Oh my god Could you see it on the skyway? Oh, I don't know what they did on the skyway That's a good question Oh yeah, because I'm still open Skyway? Oh, I don't know what they did on the Skyway. That's a good question. Oh, yeah.

Because maybe you would just see holes punched into the side of Fantasyland in the castle. Yeah. The giant stomped around like the Jack and the Beanstalk giant just kicked all the doors in. Because some of it was just like the pirate ship, they were going to try to save the Peter Pan pirate ship and when they tried to

move it, it was just too many years of wear and tear and it just started collapsing. Right. It's funny that there were guests stomping around on that all day every day and then they tried to move it once and it fell apart yeah yeah um like like a slight nudge i found another uh related thing from tony baxter but i'm pulling a lot of stuff from the the e-ticket magazine i went and found my issue of that about Alice in Wonderland. It's a great old magazine. And I think it's in there that Tony Baxter's quoted as saying that he would like

he like especially fell in love with the Alice in Wonderland ride while like looking down on it from Holiday Hill. Oh, yeah. The make-out hill. Yeah, yeah. This weird like like i forgot about that part of it it was a matter it was where my manor horn was right yeah just kind of a big mound

and teens would go up and neck oh boy not tony not our tony no no tony wouldn't disrespect the park like that but i other teams he went and looked at track layout and that's why he is where he is today i do like the idea of like just so many teens making out and Tony's like sitting in between just like ignoring all of them, but like sketching the track layout of how someone's doing it. Like drafting paper and yeah. Well, you like that idea because that's all three of us. Yeah, really. uh yeah really um but so yeah but he uh you know what's interesting though is that he said that he like yeah he loved looking down on the way the the vehicles moved and slinked around from the second floor down to the first on that that big vine piece but then when he went on the ride

he always felt like and that's it and that's that childhood of like, it's not as good as what I want it to be when I'm looking at it from afar. He got to go in and make it right in his head and give you this bang at the end with the unbirthday scene and the big cake. Yeah. A little extra room that they added. Because that was not there until 83. No, that sequence was upstairs where the Queen of Hearts is. And they were able to move in and of course redo it and add all the

animatronics um uh uh in the 80s redo and that opened up the space for that queen of hearts sequence and the king of hearts is there too he's real little and he's behind the queen he's a little short king but he's not

a short king in our current definition of it wait what do you mean he's a little short king But he's not a short king In our current definition of it Wait what do you mean He's a little short king but not in the Common not in the common not in the The way the kids say short Kings where it's like shorter confident People oh it's like me I was gonna say I've seen people

Online refer to you as a short king So I think that's what you were getting at I have, yeah. It's probably on our Facebook group, but... People are saying. But people are saying. Jason's a short king. People are talking about the short kings.

Yeah. So this one... So, yeah, it would just end. I haven't actually seen the video of it. I don't know if there's a full... I think it would just... The Vine would wrap around back to the loading. Right. The Vine kind of was the video of it. I don't know if there is a full ride. I think it would just, the Vine would wrap around back to the loading. Right.

The Vine kind of was the ending. Yeah. And originally, too, like all the other Fantasyland rides, this was just your first person. Like, you were supposed to be Alice initially. Okay. Yes, correct. Alice was not visible anywhere. And Alice didn't even speak as she does today.

Because in 83, they added narration when you're going down the rabbit hole and they got the original voice actress Catherine Beaumont who was also the voice of Wendy and is still alive wow and like was still doing voice like still like adding

voice stuff apparently up until 10 years ago or something I don't know the actual amount of time. But still sounded enough like your young self. That's amazing. So that's fun. You know what's the thing I want to give this ride credit for is somebody correct me if I'm wrong. But is this the first Disneyland or Disney theme park indoor outdoor attraction? Oh, that's interesting.

I cannot think of what, that's interesting. I cannot think about that. I cannot think of what else that might be. You may have to preclude tunnel. That wasn't there yet. Oh, yeah, you're right. You may have to take tunnels out of this definition if a tunnel counts as an indoor outdoor ride. Do our tunnels,

do tunnels count is question one. When was mine trained through nature's wonderland? There was some version of that, but I'm not sure that it had indoor scenes. Yeah. That doesn't count probably. I could be wrong about that one, but I couldn't. I don't know. Yeah, you're probably right.

Because it's 58, so it's like it's not. There haven't been too many. There haven't been too many rides in general. Too many attractions yet. I mean, it's certainly unique, especially under the crop of Disneyland Fantasyland rides. And the building alone, like you were saying, the facades all used to just be kind of tense before they gussied them up in the 80s. But this was always, you know, the sort of castle-y looking thing, wasn't it? Well, that's the other thing about it.

I like that it's castle, that it feels like an extension of the castle. It ties everything together nicely. I also like that little bathroom nook over there. That's one of the bathrooms I'm most fond of. Yeah, with the Cheshire Cats

poking out nearby. Isn't the men's Sign is the Short king That's a great photo spot is the Cheshire Cat The bathrooms Oh the bathrooms yes All bathrooms are great

He's like just above your head That's fun like you can get some fun pics there I think I have several over the years. Fake rocks. Fake rocks. Yeah. That's a good point. I think, yeah, they recently had to redo the outdoor squiggly part of the track because

of what? Safety. Safety regulations. There was no handrails. And that part is my own, like that part could look maybe a little better but that's sort of we're not happy about how wide yeah that track became yeah I get

it and there's like there's no other way to do it it is what it is yeah but other than everything else I like but you know it's you know it's the thing I really like is how you know it's alright so the car goes outdoors so you're waiting and you can see the path you can see what it's going to do but not until you come out of those doors and are

actually on the ride you see the other side of that open book and see the little uh the little shoes left behind oh yeah on top of that toast i like how that's a little like that's a little secret and you don't get to find out about it unless you actually are brave enough to go on the ride. The mushroom? Yeah. On top of the mushroom. That used to be the ticket booth. That big yellow mushroom.

That's a nod because it wasn't there. Isn't that in the Yesterworld video where there's like a people thought that the caterpillar was in the ticket booth? Well, the idea I believe what I read was that it's a nod that the caterpillar turned into a like pitter pattered away. I see. Off of that mushroom or turned into a butterfly. The piss is coming back into my mouth. Like it's something weird like

I was feeling okay and then like some weird taste started hitting me in the mouth a little bit. We should say we all had I mean I don't know how to say the amount but it was like a spoon. Less than a teaspoon. Thick spoons you gave us a spoon full of piss. A mild spoonful of piss. Just a spoonful of piss?

In the least delightful way. Yeah. As an aftertaste. Yeah, yeah. As an aperitif. Yeah, yeah. We'll keep giving you progress reports, but I don't think it's going anywhere good for anyitif. Yeah, yeah. We'll keep giving you progress reports, but I don't think it's going anywhere good for any of us.

No, it's not. The, let's see, where was I? I think, oh, yeah, the initial plans for this was a walkthrough. Okay. It was not going to be a dark ride. They eventually did a walkthrough in Paris of Mostly just of the Queen of Hearts stuff. You did it, right? I don't think I ended up going into it.

Okay. I liked the idea of that. And there's a restaurant in Tokyo. There's Queen of Hearts. Oh, yeah, there is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was unbelievably crowded when I was passing by. It was very popular.

Yeah. But it was going to be a walk through there's i think this is all from that yesterworld thing i think uh and there was a land it was gonna be in a thing called anything can happen land which is i think not a good thing to say no rules no laws yeah maybe that's not good uh i mean i guess if that was still the case like then we wouldn't be upset with the Caterpillar smoking his Opium because anything can happen

Yeah yeah anything can go down You can't complain about anything It's a good thing Holiday Hill was not an anything can happen land Oh boy Because then it would have been you know Some babies could happen On Holiday Hill But it was going to be a walkthrough

And this is going to be the only only ride i see where i almost see the value in it being a walkthrough as opposed to um a ride vehicle yeah because like pirates was going to be a walkthrough upon a mansion walkthrough and then they became right i'm like i don't know i mean a haunted mansion would be really cool to walk through it too but this one especially because like they were going to have a scene like Alice in the room where she doesn't know how to get out and the door handle and talking. And I was like that proportions of that in my mind seem very cool to be able to walk into that room that is all fucked up. Like it's the scene in The Simpsons where they rebuild Ned's house. Oh, yeah. And it's like scene in The Simpsons where they rebuild Ned's house. Oh, yeah.

And it's like, that would be fun to like do that. And it's Willy Wonka, same thing, where it's like the proportions are weird. Right. And maybe that's just too hard to like, people would trip over like on angles and things. Probably hard to do. But walking is an inherent part of Alice in Wonderland. Yes. She's like wandering through

trying to find a way out from this uh let's call it a nightmare world like a whimsical but then frustrating uh dream place because the ride as it is now is a very good very good dark ride of alice but i do think you're missing some of like the trippy stuff which maybe you got a little more from the original version of it being like kind of this hallucinogenic thing. But I was like, if you're walking through a couple of those things where the proportions are all weird and you're sort of like, I don't know,

you're questioning how big you are versus something else. I don't know. That did I, when I was watching that, I was like, Oh, this would be real cool if they could have done something that would have given you a little bit of a taste of that movie or feeling like that.

Well, I think walkthroughs as a genre just never really took off for them. Right. They're rare at this point in time. One of those in Disney Paris and a cool one, this 20,000 Leagues thing in Discoveryland. But besides that, they don't frequently exist. I think it was on Jim and Len And I didn't even realize this in Hong Kong They do Halloween mazes

Really walk through mazes behind Main Street Whoa or like maybe Alongside like behind the shops on Main Street I'm unclear of where it is But in general yeah Disney doesn't do that That has become a thing with Universal and Knott's and everything With the Halloween stuff.

But, yeah, in general, I guess, I don't know. It's easier to control people if they're an old vehicle. Yeah. Maybe that's why. But it does feel like certain things would be real cool. Well, the walkthrough Sleeping Beauty Castle, I guess. That's true. That's a walkthrough.

Nobody's ever up there. Yeah. We walked up there. I was up there with my family not too long ago. How's it looking? My mom likes it it looks great honestly it's real great that's nice there's a couple really great scenes the one where you look down into the yeah um castle is really cool like it's very cool it's obviously like low scale

like the scale isn't too big but there was briefly a walkthrough in tomorrowland of sets and props from 20 000 leagues under the sea i think we talked about on that episode like that's where the organ first was before they used it for the Haunted Mansion. And that was surprisingly a big hit. Yeah. So, walkthroughs are cool. Think about a walkthrough.

Disney, that's all I'm saying. It's not the worst way, especially to, like, you know, if you think of them as daytime haunt mazes. Yeah. It's not the worst. And if they have a bunch of props from something, I feel like they do do this temporarily sometimes. Yeah. What do you mean?

Like, maybe Universal has done this a tiny bit. I think there was some, like, I think they may have had, like, a Casper walkthrough. Oh, really? Around when Casper came out. Did you, was it a scare? I mean, was it like lightly fun, scary or? I don't think, I don't know if I did it. Maybe.

Was I too scared to go into a Casper walkthrough? He was a ghost. You got to give him that. He certainly might have been a little boy, but he was also a ghost. I do know what you mean of short run, lightly set dress rooms and props and stuff. It's a very popular Comic Con, too, of pop-up stuff.

They did do that Ninja Turtle one out here. Yeah? They had it in the parking garage. Oh, yeah. So then you would get a toy at the end. I didn't do it. I've heard about it, and I'm insanely jealous. I can't believe I didn't do that. Why in the world was I not told my friend who had like one all the time

said you just get a toy every time I think it was one of the six core first line it wasn't like yeah it wasn't like you were getting man ray or Mountie moose there are a lot I don't know those but I'm saying like it was a core like four turtles and maybe splinter April

shredder but you get a toy yeah it's wild so you go through the sewer I don't know those. But I'm saying like it was a core like Four Turtles and maybe Splinter, April, Shredder. But you get a toy. Yeah. It's wild. So, you go through the sewer and then get a toy. It's my dream. Walkthroughs are great. You get toys.

Yeah. So, I guess, yeah, they've been doing things here and there. But yeah, this one, I mean, it makes sense now that they've done like two versions of an Alice in Wonderland because so much of it lends itself to being something you should walk through. Yeah. Like so many of it lends itself to being something you should walk through. Yeah. Like so many of the scenes. This is the original, like the movie wasn't a big hit, but like the rides are popular.

Like Waterworld. Like Waterworld. First Waterworld, yes. Yeah, I guess so. And it has, and like Waterworld, it has a smoker. The catapult. Yes, it has a smoker. Yeah, so anyway. So, Water want to they owe some money to disney

yeah they do they owe money to a lot of people still well for that fire i think i think i i heard something crazy like five years ago once you factored in dvd sales water world had made back its budget really something? Something like that. It was like so expensive. Ended up being a hit though. Well, not a hit, a break even. A break even, yeah. Would they count though the revenue brought in by the Waterworld show at Universal?

Does that go into its official? Yeah, I don't know that. How do you section off that revenue? That's what Jim Hill is always talking about though with the Fox properties where it's like Disney wants to recoup the money so they're going to put the properties in the parks so they do like in their minds figure that being a way to offset the cost i guess yeah because if you're going to come for a new thing or a show you like you're going to come and see uh the ice age characters take over a half of animal kingdom which is what he's rumored. Which still seems crazy.

He says it more than... He says it so often that somebody had to have told him that. There has to be some chatter about Ice Age. It's crazy. Who knows what sort of mischief Skitter and Scrat and... I could not even think of one character. And Pebbles and all of

those characters we love. Are those real names? I think Scrat is real. What do you call it? Scribbler? Scribbler. Scribbler. I confuse Ice Age and Madagascar. Yeah.

Well, you won't soon. I won't. No. After they're in every park and we get full Ice Age kingdom, the fifth gate, the Disneyland. Disney World Oh yeah What did I say? You said fifth gate in Disneyland Okay yeah It'll be the fifth gate in Disneyland as well

Oh okay so there'll be another So a hundred years from now And there'll be two other Fox properties that are the third and fourth gate Yeah Yeah they'll do full Seth MacFarlane Park Yeah yeah Seth-y land game yeah yeah uh yeah they'll do full seth mcfarland park yeah yeah mcfarland park sethieland you go to quahog you ride on the orville you go to the pentagon with uh stan from american dad

and then the old million ways to die in the westland oh million ways down the west and of course ted ted talk like turtle talk oh yeah watch out ted's not leaving his paws off of you and then yeah there's like a teenager playing ted behind a screen like turtle talk great pretty good and then she'll add a knight when you head to the croonan kingdom oh my gosh that's most of the park seth has a lot to say he's the one who designed it so yeah that's seven five personally hired all of the crooners they all are doing they all look like him though it's the reverse of oga's cantina where that when everyone wants to get into this small bar but crooner kingdom is like a supper club that seats 500 and is never full

come on it's just rude come on in come on there's human beings in here oh it's possible makes you so big all of this is possible honestly yeah Anything is possible in the blue sky face, Michael. That's true. See you in Sethi land. Oh, Sethi land. So, what else? The original, and now it still has, nod to it, Goofy is on this ride. What?

Yeah. Goofy has, the original had three Goofy screams. Yeah. As you're like leaving out. Every door. Yeah. When you go out the doors to the second level, it's like you're being like tossed out there kind of as the blinding light of day hits you. And now there still is the one.

It is the Yahoo. Right. The famous old goofy scream. But there used to be three goofy screams for whatever reason. I guess they thought it was a little nod to goofy. It's still strange. I don't know why. Very strange.

There's not a scream in Alice in Wonderland. But then it sort of gets into Wilhelm scream territory. Yeah, that's true. Disney scream. Right. Which I sort of like. Yeah. No, I don't hate that.

Yeah. Yeah, I like, I mean, I really like when you go outside, as you were saying, like at night, the view of the Matterhorn is great. And especially now that so many years have passed, that big tree in front of the ride, it looks that the scale of, just because it's so huge now. And it's almost cut. To me, it almost looks like a large bush. Like you were looking up at a massive like bush like in the polo

scenes. Yeah. I see what you're saying. I had not thought of that. Wow a tree that's like a big bush. Like a big bush. But it adds to the feeling of smallness that you've been shrunk down. I thought that too. Tree looks like a bush. Alright.

No I'm saying people are like us Oh okay Yeah yeah yeah No they're into it Yeah yeah yeah It's a good thing It's It's now just like

I mean it is just like What do you What do you like Cause I like a lot Yeah and I mean All these episodes Don't all have to be Snark fests

No Sometimes I like stuff We drank Remember we drank piss At the start of this episode We drank candy fests Beginness by drinking urine So we

We're allowed to be a little... I like that these animatronics, more statuesque animatronics do have movement to them. Like, they sort of look in the vein of the Pixar statues. Sure. That statue pier, the old statue pier. But these guys move. They like move a little. Well, that's what happened in 83.

Yes. You got more dimensional figures and they weren't all two dimensional cutouts. The other thing is according to Tony Baxter the the original ride was it was super black light. They were really leaning

on the black light for the surrealism and almost like that was like the point of it was how much black light there was. And that also I think I think I'm right like that gave it like a 3d effect a little bit oh sure flats mostly when that would kind of give it a little bit of dimension very novel at the time it was a way to i think maybe maybe it was claude coates pointing this out himself in some movies about how a giant space you wouldn't want to use blacklight. It's too hard to fill.

Like pirates doesn't need it because they have so much space. They can make it look super huge. But in a narrow space, these tricks like blacklight are very important to make it seem like bigger vistas than it is. Right. But by the time like, you know,

hey, this was not, there weren't uh you know bong shops and such and place and uh you know bill graham posters uh it was made with black light this was not as common uh before the 60s and 70s so they could you know this was a neat style and aesthetic for 1958 by the time the 80s rolls, it seems like kind of a cheap chintzy trick, which is why there was a discussion Tony had was like, that's still part of it. That's the spirit of it. And that's all of the dark rides. We'll always have that. But we have to fold in some different.

It's just an aspect rather than the main aspect. Yeah. Right. Sorry, Blacklight. So, yeah, Blacklight. Take a back seat. Blacklight on the Knights in White Yeah. Right. Sorry, black light. So yeah, black light seat, uh, black light on the nights and white satin ride a lot too. Yeah.

With that, we're back to, that's the point of it is looking at black light for a while. Right. Cause it's a rock and roll experience. Um, they, do you guys get worried when you go on any of these rides with the black

light that you will look at, you know, cause you look down at your clothing and you see bizarre stains and such do you ever wonder like is this going to reveal something I didn't even know was there some like just full pants

covering did I pee myself and not realize it we were talking a lot of bodily fluids on this episode I am not I'm more worried that there's some sort of like food or drink

that perhaps that sounds too you don't want everybody to look around oh look you can see things on our clothes oh my god what is that yeah I am pretty sure as far as fluids I'm good But like at lunch did I

Spill a fuzzy tauntaun on my leg Yes I perhaps did And will like the color Whatever artificial color that's in that Will that show up on my pants perhaps So that is a concern But I think yeah other than that I'm not too worried That being said I could be surprised

I don't know Who knows Jason I, what about you? I think that's the reason why I'd have to agree with you. Yeah. Does fudge show up on a black light? That's a good question. I don't know. Glow-in-the-dark fudge?

Yeah. Does fudge glow-in-the-dark? Does anyone know the answer? Listeners, if you have a black light and you can run to a cracker barrel. If a forensics team were to go into your bedroom, would they see fudge everywhere? Fudge everywhere? Yeah, it's stacked up to the ceiling. This is where

that fudge supply went missing. We got him. Ladies and gentlemen, we got him. Famous fudge heist. If you took some of that jar of urine, if we poured that on our pants and then went on a ride, I think it would start talking

to us. Oh my god. That's how crazy the chemical contents are. Edwin's voice. Which is what? Edwin? Oh, Edwin. Not your dog. That was confusing. Edwin's voice is,

that's what I do when Lindsay andsey and i are together okay kind of a wheezy yeah but edwin is edwin's voice okay so the piss would sound like that i think sure sure it might sound different to everybody mine might sound like like edwin the dog that's true i'm urine urine. That was creepier than what you did. Yeah, that's my... What would your piss voice sound like? Sorry to put you on the spot here, but... I know. You can come back to it. Yeah, let's circle back.

Circle back. I'm going to think on it. We'll tease that for the very end of the episode. You'll debut your piss voice. Oh, I know. You know what? Save it for the very end of the episode Is that you'll debut Your pissed voice No no no save it for the end We need a reason the listeners are going to want to keep listening to this Yeah yeah like the final little surprise Like the unbirthday ring If you want to go upstairs and workshop it too

Oh sure We'll just add in old clips of you in other episodes going yeah this is good This ride I like it So they updated this They've updated it a few times. 2014 was last big, right? And that is what... That was an old Jason clip.

He's not here. I like it. Sounds good. Sounds good. It definitely improved things. I ate some fudge. So, I forgot all about like all the digital stuff

that they added to the ride, which is great. Like legit great. I think it's my favorite of the recently added Fantasyland digital plus ups. And it's the most I think, and the most obvious ones, I think. It reminded me of like, because in Pooh's Honey Hunt, they do a lot of that too.

So, I wonder if, I don't know, I'm sure the same people worked on it. Perhaps. But there's so much. They do so much stuff and they do it in such a good way. And some of it's like subtle. Some of it's like the subtle stuff works really well just to augment the scene. The stuff that's a little more in your face. Like there's just a little, like the rabbit moving and stuff.

That's fun. It's just a little scene and then there's like they add like trippier things in the hallway with the door and stuff as soon as you go in yeah that big swirling that's it's like a super dynamic introduction like it's really

it really like makes it that you could probably argue it's the best ride now even though I still think Peter Pan is I'm still on team pan but I do think like it feels the most modern team pan because

there's the big art we had of course that drag knockout drag down argument toad or pan is best dark ride but I guess you really should throw Alice in there as well yeah I think it's in the conversation I think it has to be because at least it doesn't i'm imagining the civil war captain america civil war poster with like jm barry staring down lewis carroll in terms of you know the creators the original creators of these uh rides the original two British weirdos who made Pan and Alice.

Clash of the British. Clash of the British weirdos. British opium weirdos. The scene with the cards, I can't like, there's mirrors in there, right? Like, to make it look more or am I just a ton of them? At least there used to be or has the effect changed? I don't know. I went through and I was like, oh, there's so ton of them? At least there used to be. Or has the effect changed? I don't know. Honestly, I don't know. I went through and I was like, oh, there's so many of them.

At some point in time, there were mirrors. I forget what it is now. But I love that. I love the fact that you, what you were saying about how it could be walked through. The fact that there are these, like, funhouse optical illusion elements of it here and there is great. And then all of the cards shooting out from behind the queen yes oh that's good the queen's face is projection now too is that right that looks good um i really liked learning

in the in the 80s plus up they color match the flowers to mary blair's original colors in the film oh wow i didn't see that i really like that attention uh detail i feel like it's it's of all the ones in fantasyland it's maybe the one that i would go on and think oh they recently built this yeah sure like with the other one like toad feels older and pan like the the thing that feels the oldest on pan of course is that the track above you there's a couple times when you lurch down and he feels like the thing's about to come off the ceiling. That was fun until it slammed into the wall when we

were on it. It slammed into the bumper curve. When it comes back into docking, we were on it and it just jammed in there. We're like, ah! But there's a part where you're just going because it's such a pleasant, beautiful ride. And then there's a part where it kind of dips down.

It feels like it has to catch itself from like letting you swing there's something on the track there baby i guess let me swing is my feeling as well but there's there's aspects of all of the rides and i know pinocchio was newer but this one feels the newest i mean maybe they did put the most care into to updating it or the most money. But I do think you could have put me on this and go, oh yeah, this is like newer, right? Like all the effects feel really modern

and they've taken what was there and yeah, really made it feel new. I think that's a credit to the movie, the source material like aging the best. A little bit. I mean, yeah, I see what you're saying because I think that the references are... People love that Lewis Carroll shit.

Even just like the 51, the original animated movie. Sure. I feel like I was saying earlier holds up so well. And people still like to do drugs. So, that's still... Well, that's true. Yes. Sadly.

I don't care to, but some people do. So they like it. You're hooked on the most addictive drug at all, sugar. All those brightly colored candy drinks. Yeah, I guess you're right. You've had a crazy straw into that cup of piss. You've been lying. You've been like slurping it up.

You've pulled out your own cup, Your own one you had already bought yourself. Yeah, I had a different, a different company makes a different kind of candy piss. And I've been drinking it secretly. Your disgust is because it's not as good as. It's not as good as my company. Pepsi versus Coke. Pepsi challenge. Wonka.

Pepsi. Pepsi challenge. I was going to say Wonka makes a piss as well yeah Nestle makes a piss now that would have been a more unpleasant river for Augustus Gloop to fall into oh yeah oh my boy my boy oh no

he is blinded by urine a national pastime you're making a mockery of a national pastime A pretty good sketch would be A Wonka candy factory But all novelty dirty candy River of candy piss Everlasting I don't know

You take it from there My boy is choking on a Choking on a candy thong. Walked into the candy thong closet. Now he can't breathe. A candy kidney stone. Everlasting kidney stone. That is not, by the way, that's patented to me.

No one has gotten that yet. No one has thought of that. All right. Well, make sure to offload this audio file and then mail it to yourself and seal the envelope. So you have it, you know, if he does it before it comes out, a gray piece of candy, that's a candy kidney stone. Fucking I'm a genius. The most desirable. And you it's so it's you have to suck on it to make it be small enough to pass.

Yes, exactly. That's the whole point of it and by the time you're done you probably will start forming real kidney stones yeah it is made of calcium ingredient number one calcium it's good for you calcium and sugar it's also your bone buildups for a growing boy it's good for the elderly. Yeah. They need that calcium supplement to supplement their bones. That's a novelty gift for like, it's nifty, you're 50 part. Like, you

get like, here's your jar of candy, kidney stones. Hope you don't get them. Drink lots of water. But do eat these. Do eat these. I don't know the logic really. They're calcium for your bones, which are also aging. Well, you could bring it out at a party and say like, if there's a jar of 80 of them and like, hey, that's how many old Mike has passed.

Guess the kidney stones in the jar too. That would be fun. Get like a gust of gumballs. Sure. There's a lot of things you could do with this. Great idea. Unfortunately, if you look close enough in the Alice in Wonderland ride at the mad tea party on birthday scene, they're offering like tea, crumpets, candy, kidney stones. Gotta get rid of these somehow.

Gotta get rid of these. Candy, kidney stones. Yeah, that's good. I don't know. This is real good. I mean, you're right that we don't know. This is real good. I mean, you're right that we're talking about are there other bodily fluids and we were avoiding certain ones probably. But what else can your body make?

You thought of one more. Bile. Yeah. Oh, bile is good. Bile is great. Bile is good. Bile is good. A bile drink.

You get a little cinnamon or a little pop rock. So, it's like, like ah it's corrosive Right you know that's good Actually careful with cinnamon folks Cinnamon can really fuck you up Can really fuck up your life There's gotta be rest stop water that's like Liberal tears

Or something for conservative People making a stop right Damn you're good at this this is another good one That's a good one right It's just gotta be like the sunny water I i prefer you not uh diminish our fine highway rest stops sure i'm well they usually with these rest stop gift shops they of course are equal opportunity offenders you'll see the toilet the hillary toilet paper and the trump toilet paper okay i suppose that's so they might have a different thing to roast the other side but the liberal tears water

this is good i should really leave this out because i probably would make a million dollars So they might have a different thing to roast the other side. But yeah, liberal tears, water. This is good. I should really leave this out because I probably would make a million dollars. You are now the head of Flying J International. What is Flying J? Flying J is like the truck stop. The rest stop organization. She stopped at one in Barstow once. Okay.

Yeah. So that's good. So what's the conservative equivalents? Like what comes out of your body uh you're you're so mad at what uh cortez tweeted uh that you pee yourself uh i'm not sure what uh i would just my first pitch honestly was gun water doesn't make sense why not um yeah i don't know what or that you it's vomit that's it it's a vomit because what alexandria cassia cortez said made you throw up in your mouth a little bit right but that's still slamming liberals uh so that's still okay that doesn't read to you as

like they're so like you could sell candy panties in a bunch because your panties are in a bunch. You're so mad at what Cortez said. Okay, that's not bad. Like candy puke. Like, oh, make it AOC making America puke again. Like you're not making America great again. I guess that one's back on her. Yeah, that's kind of back on her. It needs to be

something that like the conservatives do that you could spin off into a candy or a drink. They're like salivating because they want to fuck Trump? Maybe. That's a stretch. That's a stretch. How do you candy a brain aneurysm?

Because you're just terminally online okay head bandage like is that a candy head oh it's like fruit roll-ups it's a headband it's a white mystery like airhead like why yeah why does that old man have a bandage yeah that's good it's a bottle of raindrops from our perfect, most beloved 4th of July celebration of America. Uh-huh, that's good. It went off without a hitch. That's good. Delicious fracking water?

Oil, too, because, you know, like National Park oil, because more conservatives want to drill in like National Parks and off the coast. Drill that of Teddy Roosevelt's head. Yeah, so it's like national park oil. Yellowstone oil. Still doesn't read quite as good as the liberal tears joke. Yeah, not as concise as liberal tears.

Liberal tears is sort of the gold standard for this type of thing. I think it's still in... It's Pence... This is Mike Pence's vomit because he saw a gay person smiling. Or was in the room with a woman. He was in the... Not his wife. Well, you could say that could be an assorted set because he relieved himself in every way.

He threw up pissed and shit because he was in the room with another woman. And sweat, all of them. So, it's a grab bag there could be like a pen that you flip over that a woman's clothes comes off and it's just like says like mike pence's worst nightmare or something or no no it wouldn't even be no more not even new

yes yes yes yes it was just like you turn the pen over and she would just say hello we're in the room together and that would be it there wouldn't be any nudity on the pen it's a novelty pen where the clothes don't come off the clothes don't come off she just says hello and then that's the worst yeah yeah that's the worst it could be ah oh thank god it was just a joke pen thank you this has been a wonderful birthday she has like a full suit on and turns it up and she's got like a winter coat on She just says hello And his fantasy would just be a big candy Garfield

Because he loves Garfield Is that true? Yeah, have you seen he, there's a bizarre him like taking some time out of a It's like a congressional session or whatever to say that it's Jim Davis's birthday. Oh, I have seen that. I have seen that. He's been making us laugh for 50 years. He may not be perfect. He

doesn't care much for Mondays, but the spirit of this cat is like the spirit of our nation. I say get Garfield's name out of your mouth. Mr. Sir. Mr. Pence, sir. It's funnier than you. But do we know Jim Davis's politics?

I believe he's pretty apolitical. I believe that. That seems right. That's what's great about him. Everybody can win. I suppose Scott Adams who is just on another planet nowadays. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oof.

We have taken some turns on this one. Back to the kooky world of Alice in Wonderland. Yeah, you know what? I like that there's little dandelion projections flying around. That might be all I have. I don't know. I'm running out. It is one of those ones where it's just good. It's good. And there's not a

ton of lore. It's nice to just like rides, but then we're just saying this thing's good and that thing's good. I have some background on the manufacturer oh god now we're getting to the good shit arrow development um later followed by arrow dynamics uh they were involved in a lot of the uh early rides of disneyland in fact six opening day disneyland rides uh mad tea party king arthur carousel mr toad uh dumbo casey jr and snow white scary adventures yes and still around in burgeoning this day around in a

different form i believe i believe the one company went under and then reformed something like that but they helped out a lot of disney uh rides through the year alice um the matterhorn flying saucers the mark 4 redesign of the autopia cars um yeah good for them good for them thanks arrow we salute you i will also say that the caterpillar cars were ultimately sculpted by blaine gibson which is weird because blaine gibson made a lot of the famous, you know, like a lot of the great human-esque animatronics like Abraham Lincoln, like all of the Hall of Presidents, all the way up through George W. Bush. When there was a new president, he would come out of retirement and make the new president.

Wow. And the partner's statue was this guy Waltz and Mickey holding hands but it's weird that you're in a ride vehicle that he at least made the mold and they made you know 16 of them total but yeah which is that's the thing you got to give it credit for that it's a

it's a cool ride vehicle I think it's one of the best of those dark ride vehicles maybe one of the best in one of the most one of the oddest most specific ride vehicles in one of the best Of those dark red ride vehicles Maybe one of the best in one of the most One of the oddest most specific ride vehicles In all of the And it's a character which is fun And different colors

Always fun And not dissimilar to The leaked Nintendo art Excuse me model did you see that The leaked Nintendo land model Where apparently We're not getting it I hope Japan is getting it or excuse me model did you see that the leaked nintendo land model where apparently yeah it's not we're not getting it i hope japan is getting it i that because because of space is that there

seems to be a yoshi omnimover type hell yeah and they're just different colored yoshis i don't know how i don't know if it's one per yoshi or like it's a little thing on his back whatever it looks like there's a cool outdoor, indoor Yoshi Omnimover, which reminded me of this, because it's like all the same character, but different colors. Which, God, I hope that's in Japan, because people were saying that's so bad. Yeah, people were saying

that maybe this is like an initial model, so we don't know. We don't have confirmation yet that that is going somewhere. Hopefully, at least Florida, because that's going to be the least Florida because that's gonna be the biggest one supposedly and if the ride breaks then every Yoshi just scurries in multiple directions until it falls into a pit unless you can jump on top of it yes they scream at you to get back on I had such panic as a kid when I would get hit and yoshi would run around because i would

it was it was traumatizing to seem like run off a cliff yeah because like you'd hit and he would run around and you'd have to get him before he hit off of a cliff and i would just feel such pressure and sometimes it wouldn't happen and i'd feel depressed there's a lot of characters being murdered at all times in the mario games oh yeah most of them are villains right and some of them are you and that's on you and you know you'll be back. Yeah. Watching your pal, somebody you've bonded with and flown the skies with, watching him just

jump into a pit. Because he was scared. That's what's the worst part about it. He's scared and he just throws himself off a cliff. He's not. No other choice. Straight up relatable. Very relatable. Better do this. Getting scared and throwing yourself off a cliff It's what we're all thinking about doing

Every time we check Twitter I'm scared now Oh maybe a Trump's Twitter candy Of some kind Something like that This is going to keep you up at night I gotta crack it If you get it then do a conference call Something like that This is going to keep you up at night It is yeah I got to crack it I will crack it

Well if you get it then do a conference call Patch us in Wake us up at 3 in the morning Record it and put it on podcast the ride We will I'll do it yeah We owe you content at all times even as we sleep I'm looking through the last bit of my notes here And I'm trying to I'm like I guess I just talked about everything

And then I looked at this and I said What is this note and it says clock jam and then I remember I wanted to make a note because my favorite part I think of Alice in Wonderland the movie is where the Mad Hatter and the March Hare try to fix the clock by putting jam on it and you remember this

and then they just smash it oh yeah that's one of those lodged memories I haven't watched in forever you should watch it because my goodness did it bring up. I was like, oh, man, I love this. This is so good. I don't know what it was about. I don't know if I like, I guess I was a fan of jams and jellies.

I think it's so silly as a kid. Like, you know, you don't know a lot. You can't get complex humor, but you know that condiments don't belong on a clock. Yeah. Yeah. And I think it's also like a mix of like, I didn't like they were breaking the clock, but I also liked what they were doing. It was just a bunch of emotions at once.

And seeing what's in a clock, seeing all those crazy doodads. Yes. And I, that's another one of my own. Oh, shit. I think this is the best scene in the movie. That's a snack they should sell is an edible clock. Oh, yeah. With jam spread on it.

They should. Oh, that'd be great. Yes. Great. Like cakey piece or it's like a chocolate the shell thing that crumbles. Yeah. Oh, man. That's great. Yeah. A lot of good ideas on this episode. Like with being marshmallow gears inside.

Jason, what do you think as the expert? Do you want to hear my piss voice? You're just just gonna I asked you a question Oh I'm sorry I was asking you what do you think about the treat I'm into it I think They could even they're always they're fussing around With churros so much nowadays I bet you could

Reverse and you could figure out how to do it in Churro form or it's a wide Churro instead of a long churro that looks Like a clock and you spread the jam on top A wide churro sounds fantastic Wide churro instead of a long churro that looks like a clock and you spread the jam on top. A wide churro sounds fantastic. Wide churro sounds good, right? Were you just sitting thinking of your piss voice? Yeah, I was kind of.

All right, well, let's hear it. Hey, it's Jason's piss. It's one of two voices Jason can do. Put me in a toilet. Whoa. Wow. Wow. And applause for it. Wow. put me in a toilet whoa wow wow wow

it's a very specific area what's your piss voice sure there's only so many yeah yeah answers there could be but don't let that you know arousing voice don't let that incredible voice performance overshadow did you say arousing voice

rousing I've been seeing a lot of people online are saying incredible voice performance overshadow wide churro. Did you say a rousing voice? Rousing. I've been seeing a lot of people online are saying that Jason is a short king and that his voice is arousing. Let's not let it all overshadow wide churro. My idea that I am copywriting. Wide churro. There's so many good ideas in this episode. We're all copywriting.

Yeah. I don't know. I got nothing else. Wait, so can I copy copy i guess i would take i guess the deadable jam clocks was my idea you brought up jam clocks but me making it a snack was my idea it was yes okay okay great so we don't have to sue each other i have kidney stone candy liberal tears which i bet i bet already you can buy liberal tears somewhere oh yeah yeah that's not i but i do believe I invented kidney stone candy. Because liberal tear, that's the thing.

That's not like a new, that could have been sold 20 years ago. Just would have been a more niche market. There's got to be like a liberal snowflake cookie or something where you have like a snowflake and you eat it. An edible snowflake. The most fragile. Yeah. The most fragile candy the cookie crumbles immediately my friend Avery Monson

briefly sold a coffee mug online that instead of tear he removed the R from the phrase liberal tear so it just said liberal tease and everyone from every side of the aisle got mad at him because they read it too quickly and he's like what it's just teas it's just a mug for teas that's good uh yeah here i'm

looking i i looked up candy there may not be candy necessarily actually but there's mugs liberal tears and melted snowflakes is on a mug right so that's that covers both of them there's mugs liberal tears and melted snowflakes is on a mug right so that's that covers both of them there's a coffee mug that says I lubricate my AR-15 with liberal tears which is nice to hear because that probably makes it less

lubricated and less likely to hurt people so keep on doing it sir and how can you possibly procure enough to lubricate the whole gun? Firearms deal with saltwater great. They handle it very well. Yeah, I'm sure. There are three useless things in this world.

A dull knife, an unloaded gun, and liberals. I didn't know that didn't say tears until I got to the end. Liberals is real much bigger than the rest is why I shouted it. So, that's all great stuff you can. Oh, wait. I'm seeing maybe there's a Zazzle tin you can buy. Oh, okay. Yeah.

And it's, yeah, there's a little snowflake on it and it says from the salt mines. I'm not sure what that part's about. Yeah, that's a leap. Yeah, I don't get it. Is there each? Are tears salty? I suppose. salt mines. I'm sure what that part's about. Yeah, that's a leap. Yeah, I don't get it. It's a reach. Are tears salty? I suppose.

Hmm. All right. Well, the point is, if you want liberal tears, there's many ways to get them. I looked up candy kidney stones. Uh-huh. It doesn't appear. Great. The first thing that comes up is sugar kidney stones So maybe there's kidney stones that are sugar

Which honestly would lend itself better So it's like a real thing And Disney could market these also Because as we discussed with Big Thunder Mountain There was a study about how that ride is effective For passing kidney stones So they could specifically You could sell this idea to Disney and they sell

it in gift shops outside of Big Thunder kind of lacking for Big Thunder merch that's true that's a good point yeah very good point so you sell them in a tin that looks like the train like those popcorn tins are becoming popular so Big Thunder train full of

kidney stones right Big Thunder mining company. We hit a bonanza. We hit a jackpot. Look at all these stones. All these kidney stones. Of all the trains over the years that have been going through the mines and just shooting kidney stones off, ripping straight through the pants, banging around the innards of the cave, and they all land in a big pile.

That's what's being portrayed here. It is unpleasant. There's been a lot of, well, it's all, you know, by kicking it off with the urine. I was guaranteeing that we would, it would be an unpleasant episode and that we would feel unpleasant. How do we feel? Okay, now, do we ride the wave? Do we feel all right? I mean, that's what happens when you record a show through the looking glass, man.

Yep. Everyone like that? Everyone good? Yes. I found it very arousing. Great. Very arousing. Well, I guess in that case.

I guess everyone has survived. We survived. Podcast the Ride. Disgusting edition. Disgusting. Our gross out humor today our nanny uh our au pair is shaking us awake under a tree wake up get up oh right it was a dream you stupid idiot stupid opium addicted idiot is that what inspired like was somebody yelling that to Lewis Carroll? Probably.

Yeah. Many times in his life. Sleep down at the dock almost rolled into the water. Candy opium another. Yeah, that's good. With kind of steampunky design. Yeah. That would be really out there though because that opium isn't legal.

Yes, true. Yeah. All right. there though because that opium isn't legal yes true um yeah all right well uh look a lot of merch ideas and presumably on our t public eventually we'll be able to sell all of these candies oh yeah uh yeah and we'll start you know what we'll start selling liberal tears yeah why don't we yeah let's just sell out entirely yeah liberal tears it's our t Public is your place for Disney theme park adjacent comedy shirts. And also, yeah. I use liberal tears to power my gas guzzling big dick SUV. I use liberal tears instead of gas.

Which is also clean energy, though. though yeah that's a way to trick people into supporting clean energy yeah we'll probably sell more conservative shirts and merch than we do on our own podcast honestly it's half about sunny eclipse and stuff and half about liberal tears yeah sunny eclipse with a gun is outselling all of our other shirts just unrelated like i drink liberal tears for breakfast and it's a picture of sunny eclipse Sunny Eclipse with a gun is outselling all of our other shirts. Just unrelated. Like, I drink liberal tears for breakfast and it's a picture of Sunny Eclipse. Yeah, he's drinking it and he's also saluting. It's unclear what he's saluting.

Why would this tie together? Like Pepe the Frog. Why would these things be? But he's a backwards man. So, he drinks. He salutes the ground. He salutes the ground and he drinks Tibberlears. Oh, man. Anyway,

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