Podcast: The Ride - America Sings

Episode Date: July 2, 2021

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And now, to Honor America, a podcast that may feature a litany of public domain songs. Sad mice, sad rabbits, sad possums, and of course, the dreaded bawdiness. Find out which exhausting old-timey song Jason thinks is a bop as we deal with America Sings on Podcast The Ride, a show where if you like hearing the names of corny-ass public domain songs uttered, this is the episode for you. I'm Jason Sheridan, joined as always by Mike Carlson. I'm here, and let the public domain names begin, I say. Let the public domain fol begin i say public domain uh folky you could nonsense begin you could be any sort of pop star now and do any of the songs in america sings and do them for free because of their public domain so dualipa could do yankee doodle dandy yeah that's right except like the

last quarter of this show oh right yes three dog night would have something to say to you yeah there's some copyright going on Scott Gardner also here Yeah there's I think three copyrighted songs Amidst a bunch of Old bullshit Yes I'm so glad we're all on the same page about this

I think we are yes America Sings Likers Apologies if Yeah we all came in with an energy i feel like an assumption that this thing was like oh we might be a little more endeared to it than maybe yeah it has all the ingredients of something that you would say like on paper you'd go oh wow this show that none of us got to see live i don't think right because it's we would be no no yeah nobody's here is too logistically you may

have been able to see it between the ages of like one and three because it closed in 88 it I think it may be because I think the first time I went was 88 so it could have been there you could have my parents maybe didn't feel like it and I asked my mom about it this morning and she had no idea what I was talking about yeah and then you yeah you guys lived out here i just talked i was just talking to my parents and they're like oh what's the topic for the show today and i said oh america sings just nothing nothing no recognition like what then my mom is much more into disney but we you know she went to disneyland in 19 i don't know 70 something maybe the last but i don't know she apparently she knows she loves Burl Ives is singing voice, but she doesn't know America sings.

Yeah. So maybe not the fondest of, of feelings for this thing, but look, it's 4th of July weekend. We're all excited about it. We had to talk about something patriotic, right?

Or are we making that up? I think we might be making it up, but it feels nice, doesn't it? We give ourselves a lot of puzzles and rules and metrics to do the show. And this might be an example of like, oh, maybe we may have stepped in a snare of some sort. They're going to want to hear about a thing that even our moms don't know about or like. They're going to need to.

It's going to boost the SEO. Everybody's going to be america all weekend yeah that's what i do the whole weekend is just type america into google yes upwards of 30 times a day we have the the ceiling to floor list of uh federal and postal holidays and we're like well we've got to make sure when these come and every any piece of media that i consume i expect some sort of patriotic version of it or episode. So like Hacks is on, and I expect there will be a sort of 4th of July Hacks. I understand the season is over, but I think that that'll probably happen, right?

No, I'd imagine. Mayor of Easttown, yes, they'll be patriotic. 4th of July, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course, America, 4th of July. Yeah, for sure. There's always going to be a 4th of July special. It's the Keystone State, Delaware County?

Are you kidding? Oh, that's true. You would completely. Yes, you have to. So the audience is jazzed. They're absolutely jazzed. I really, in talking about if we're going to do rides about every holiday, or to cover rides that cover every holiday,

I really hope that there's not some Columbus ride that we aren't aware of. Oh, no. If there is some cursed Christopher Columbus attraction, it's some Godforsaken park. There's gotta be a Columbus ride. There's gotta be something. The Tales of Chris. I'm looking it up right now.

Kind of a Sinbad, like an attempt at an inspiring, and he made friends everywhere he went. The power of friendship, and then brought on the Nina, the Pinta, and the Santa Maria. And they all talk, the three ships all, I'm Nina. Now, that vibe is kind of present in this attraction because one of the thesis of this ride is like, let's talk about the history of songs in America

and the music in America. And Olly Owlllie owl says like where did they come from and burl ives uh sam eagle or eagle sam not muppet eagle sam but uh he goes like well people brought them from their home countries and it's like that's bullshit that is not present in this right at all yeah there might be like one or two. Maybe one, but most of these songs were just stolen from slaves and people singing in honky tonks and brothels. Yes, that's true.

And they never made a dime off the things they ate. Well, that is very true. But let's back up a minute to explain in case you don't know what America Sings is. We're coming in pretty hot. Because we're coming in real hot today. I don't know what it is i'm confident a lot of people yes much of our audience not alive when this was running some like probably

like us a chunk of them just born that's true yeah um but so there was the carousel of progress and most people i think if you're listening to this show i would assume you know carousel of progress it's a robot show where like an older man explains the new gadgets in his kitchen. That's basically the show. But in different kitchens and kitchens 20 years apart. Of course. In the current one until you get to the future of 1998. Yes.

I mean, that would be funny if Walt pitched it like that. It's a man and he's older and he wears a, and he explains what new devices are in a kitchen. And that's basically it. It's the most dynamic show I've ever heard of. Yeah. And that ride, of course, looking towards tomorrow, looking towards the future. Yes. Tomorrow land.

Tomorrow land. Where this ride exits tomorrow land. The song. Right on progress to tomorrow. Yeah. But what is more tomorrow land than a look back at the past yeah there's a lot of this thing that yeah well like a lot of moments in it we're like why am why is this here's this old hound dog or like uh uh chastising a drunk

goose and uh-huh this is this is in tomorrow land yeah and it's wait i got a question about the hound dog hassling the drunk is the drunk coded as irish oh boy because like the the pub window looks like it says joe's and the drunk is wearing like a little bowler hat and i'm like that immigrants causing trouble i mean the cops definitely irish he was gonna beat the shit out of that trunk for singing the old dog yeah the old dog was gonna beat the shit out of the goose what kind of name is adeline that's that's the key that's a good question they're singing about sweet adeline adelaide line i'm not sure that was on the b sharp they sang that on the b sharps

episode of the simpsons the whole attraction is full of weird cruddy songs that i only know from the simpsons which y'all because later you also get old gray man oh yes yes used to be which completely on the simpsons is presented as like what if a old man pulling his pants down sang this cruddy song? Yes, that is true. One of the safest songs, too, in this production. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That one seems fun. Who knows?

You never know what's around the corner. But anyway, yes. So, to fill in the history of this, we're getting into the 70s, and there's kind of a feeling that people have seen the Carousel of Progress. They know it, they know all its moves, and we got to get something else into this rotating, spinning theater and go take the Carousel of Progress so that a new audience can see it and we can go not change it there for 50 years.

Yes. This premise is wild to me that in the 70s they're like, I feel like people have seen this. Don't we have to do something different? Round the world at these parks. I think it's fine. I think we'll let that one sit. Well, that feels like more of a general electric suggestion than an Imagineering suggestion, maybe.

Oh, I see. Because it was so dependent on their sponsorship in electronics. And it's like, well, a lot of people in california have seen this but you've got a brand new park maybe we can move it there yeah we need the people in florida to see the appliances in the kitchen they haven't seen the progression of appliances so if they yeah now we get we'll give them 40 years of this 40 plus teach them about appliances from 50 years prior yes you know that there's you know there's washboards now electric washboards and it's been the times floridian it's been

dazzling florida audiences ever since by the way i'm making these jokes we like carousel progress oh yeah carousel progress looks like like ben hur compared to america sings whatever casablanca it's like carousel progress is a masterpiece compared to america sings yeah yeah i just blinked because i'm like yes i'll pretend i've seen and like ben hur can do well i'm just i'm i'm catering to that film the afi top 100 crowd when i say that you know yeah yeah sure i'm not saying that's one of my top 10 films carousel progress looks like citizen kane compared to this the other side of the wind right film heads that's right you're more you if there's anyone on the podcast that's the afi guy it's you yes the other side of wind of course orson welles is unfinished movie that was finished

finally a few years ago and you can watch it for free on Netflix. Or if you, like me, were a sucker and paid $40 to a Kickstarter seven years ago, you can watch it that way. And it's fine. It's fine. He had a lot of unfinished or partially finished stuff. All this time, we've waited for this Orson Welles gem to come. Eh, it's fine.

Yeah. You were, I mean, I don't know if we've talked about it since. I think on the Great Movie Ride episode, I did declare you Podcast of the Rides Robert Osborne. Yeah. So that's a little more of some Osborne-style factoids from you. Yeah. I don't remember that part.

I mainly remember when the gangster came in and started shooting us and talking about cum. Huh. Yeah, putting jewels. That doesn't seem familiar. That doesn't seem familiar to me. But I guess the Osborne thing. I don't know.

I'll go back. I think if everyone thinks of the bit they like the most from that episode, they're going to think about when I said Jason was like a kindly old man that would introduce movies on TCM. Yeah. Or whatever. TMC? What the hell?

Turner Classic Movies. Turner Classic classic movie oh i was right good who saved the uh the great movie ride for the last few years they they ponied up sponsorship that's he saved it putting a robert osborne intro saved the ride no no i mean like saved it monetarily support wise yeah financially i thought you meant that was like a refresh where they were like we gotta do something current for the great movie, right? I know what it is. I loved it. I was certainly... Osborne. Yeah. All the kids then came back to see it.

Yeah. But anyway. Too many 11-year-olds. They had to push them out of the park. So, yeah, it's 1974. We got to get something else in here. Let's... And so America's Thing shows up up i'm acting like i have more

information well they wanted they wanted to celebrate the bicentennial america had bicentennial fever and yeah sure two months after this ride open richard nixon resigned in disgrace don't worry about it that's fine what are they what are the makers of the funny you think they supposed to do about richard mark davis didn't know about Richard Nixon, like Whitewood and Watergate. I just mean for the vibe in America sometimes. Like, hey, everyone's kind of out of it because we lost the Vietnam War. Let's get a ride in there. It starts off with the Confederacy, history's biggest fucking losers.

It was the 1970s, though. No one knew what the hell was going on no no it was kind of a bleak time i think that's why people latched on to the bicentennial it would be crazy it would be crazy if it was like a very progressive show honestly that would be more shocking to me oh i don't i didn't expect that they were like we gotta get okay bro you gotta come back in the studio you have to as sam eagle address the resignation of richard nixon yeah we have to we have to do that we have to amend this to talk about uh what nixon has done the theater won't be moving today i have some thoughts you know the white house is not to be sullied with burl lives should have gone in

they should have done like an overlay every time there was some sort of disgraceful thing america did and burl lives would go in and address the audience i'm just saying that disney is very good at myth making and of course the number one thing they're good at myth making is uncle walt the character of walt disney yes well that's their greatest character that's the greatest character the number two myth making could be argued american excellence like he's in a lot of the parks like not the international parks but yeah you've got a real essay prepared for today's episode i did a college term paper because i thought i was waiting to like latch on to like well i like this bit and uh that just wasn't coming it started to bubble up on the

second or third viewing because i i was trying to give it a chance sure but man i was ready to drop kick that weasel i'll tell you what the weasel's rough the weasel is bad yes i don't disagree with that um yeah it's just you know look this is the same it is funny i was like even just like thinking about being a kid and like doing the pledge of allegiance now i go that's kind of weird it's kind of weird so like the idea yeah in the 70s it's like yeah of course the show is going to be like this there's like no way around that but look there's cute animatronics well of course mark davis designed animatronics which i think outside of the context yeah of the

whole show even because i don't even like look this is not as good as Country Bears by a mile. Country Bears, again, Country Bears is like Jean-Luc Godard's Breathless compared to, okay. Compared to some crappy French movie. Yeah, right. Exactly. To some Gerard Depardieu bullshit in his later years confusing action yeah he made yeah where he could barely jump over a foot the whole time yeah yeah high wall deb ardue i i believe in europe has like fought taking the career path of of like a seagull like deb ardue movies now we're like oh this is

dog shit but he's like beating people up hopefully i like so he it's just it's hard to tell no no just in like seagal like got really bad and will do anything oh yeah yeah sure um well look the i don't want to put down the early work of gerard aparto i'm just saying later yeah but i'm gonna keep doing these film references as a man who knows all about film the whole show here okay so um um but like okay so we've got well all right mark davis uh we could talk about a little bit um he like i mean the the best thing about this show for sure is the characters and mark davis i can't pretend to be a super expert about about the stuff in these you know what what specific imagineers and everybody did but i do associate mark davis with that you

characters that you see that match the sketches that you can go look up and where the the character is really fully formed uh you know completely what they're about and sort of what the joke of them is there's something charming about him that translates from his sketch to his animatronic and and he fits a lot of story into an animatronic that essentially can't do much you know like at most they uh you know can move from one point to another point or they can like a rock in a rocking chair or maybe even just flap their mouths but I feel like all

these Mark Davis characters are like alright totally like if you needed to make a movie about this character you could you could figure out

a lot just from the way they look and their vibe well and that's a thing you'll see a lot about this ride is that a lot of this stuff

a lot of these characters were concept art designs for the unmade Chanticleer movie Chanticleer is back Chanticleer is back. Chanticleer is back. What was the episode where Chanticleer overtook the episode? Was it Sword in the Stone for some reason?

Yes, it was. But why? What was the connection there? I think they had two or three options of a movie to make that was in the running. Chanticleer was in development for a long time, maybe like 20 years or so. Was it like that Orson welles movie uh you know actually a lot of his stuff was in development for a very short amount of time especially later in his career where he kind of had to run and go but probably a little too influenced by the european uh french new wave movement um but

there's no there's no kickstarter to make get chanticle. No. Not until we post this episode. No, but the folk tale of Chanticleer was the inspiration then for Rock-A-Doodle. Yes. Yes, we did talk about that. Crucially. You saw Rock-A-Doodle when you were a kid? No, I have no Rock-A-Doodle. You haven't seen Rock-A-Doodle?

No, I have not seen Rock-A-Doodle. Man, that was a movie that... I haven't seen Rock-A-D rockadoodle and we might that was a movie that i haven't seen rockadoodle either oh my god i watched it a bunch and it freaked my shit out every time warped you yeah you're talking about how you weren't that into music on the last week's episode but now you're saying you were a big rockadoodle kid i was a big rock well i feel like we got vhs tapes of rockadoodle and the brave little toaster and both of those kind of like sinister stuff in both of them like characters in distress in an in an upsetting way yeah well

yeah like yeah fievel and all that we were talking i think on the other episode where it was like there's stretches of movies around that time where you're like the character just seems like depressed and they're like sobbing and it feels like this is going on forever and you're a little kid and you're like this is supposed to be fun and they move slower than characters today yeah much darker there's only one one character in there yeah if you told me rained on i haven't seen fievel goes west since i saw it in the theaters a little kid if you told me there were 45 minutes of fievel sobbing alone in that movie i would not be shocked like oh that seems right yeah i miss my home yeah yes exactly an american tale yes fievel goes west i remember being a little lighter it's very orange it's very brighter maybe i had that one on tape i didn't have the

other one on tape and uh yeah only 40 minutes of sobbing yeah 40 minutes versus 45 yeah the like oh no someone got cholera on the way to like deadwood bible sick throw the mouse corpses off the boat oh no they'll make us sick don't you see just like i'm like stressed for weeks afterward like is bible gonna be okay will there be a sequel mother this was jimmy stewart's final performance mother mother this is jimmy stewart's

final performance mother and i want you to be aware of that we should be respecting jimmy stewart that's you by the way he's great he's great

and final goes west he gives it his all sure got that yeah and he uh yeah the old kindly sheriff winds up killing fiefel it was a 15

minute funeral sequence and then the and then in the movie they're like everyone stand up and really imagine this is happening there's like a title there's like a card that appears it's like please everyone stand now is the point in

the showing where the audience should feel free to get up and say something there's a reason they call five goes west uh prequel to hbo's deadwood it's like the early if he was at the arc light now like not sure as to come in and like direct traffic does anyone want to say anything where i mean we're we're in here for another 25 minutes yeah we can't there's no way to fast forward this. Yeah, sure. I felt pretty bad when he was sobbing for so long there.

That's all I got to say. Yeah, all right, good. Anyone else? Come on, talk. Yeah, you may as well talk. It's going to be weirder if you don't, quite frankly. Okay, so it's Mark Davisis characters and i do like the characters and i think it made me think that i might enjoy this attraction yeah that's of course what yeah

um but like okay you know i think there's no reason to like save this chronologically america sings probably most famously now uh is the source of so many of the animatronics in splash mountain we know this we've covered this in Splash Mountain. If you're a Disney head, you know that. That America Sings closed around the time that Splash Mountain was going to open. How do we populate this long ride with lots of characters? This is the way to do it. It also tied together nicely because Mark Davis did concept art for song of the south now i say nicely in

the same sentence the song of the south and i regret it instantly i clocked it i clocked it let's just remove those i just mean in terms of art you're just giving the fact you're giving a fact i'm saying what they thought then yes in the 80s yeah yeah i was like yeah i know how to make this a less grim episode let's talk about song of the south dear god but i think that we again the these the characters are nice i and i like them in splash mountain too where i i think i thought that like oh america sings is a attraction with no blood on its hands so i feel bad that these characters are thrust into splash mountain where uh you know which is problematic phrase in fact it has literal and figurative i'll just i'll just stop using uh language of any kind we could just go back to that bit about

fievel being so sad that That'd be fine, yes. I'll say that I agree that I think the character designs are nice but I think Country Bears by a country mile in terms of getting characters. Now that's a wholesome phrase. That's the way to make a point, Scott, on this episode.

Nothing wrong with that sentence. I think. Let me Google it. A country mile originally a term. Oh, no. We're forced to walk country miles against their will. Oh, man. I think Country Bears does a much better job of communicating, like, quote unquote character, like vibe of a character.

I think that, too. Yeah, yeah. But the character design is certainly um very you know uh bright and vivid well it feel and of course like because mark davis did so much disney stuff you see the characters and they feel very familiar and yeah it's very much of a piece with many other attractions in the park yeah yeah um but yeah i don't it's like yes i think we all kind of have the same thing of like we love robot bullshit. The show is like 90% robot bullshit here on this podcast.

Yeah. So we're like, all right, Mark Davis designed. Yeah, great. And then it's just, I don't think the show is not like, Country Bears is like a funny show. This show isn't really funny. There's maybe like a couple of attempts at jokes. The clip, the show I watch on YouTube, it's like not getting much as far as laughter is concerned maybe it was a bad hey maybe it was a bad crowd we've all had rough nights on the on stage i did see a video where where the audience was clapping along a lot to yankee doodle dandy and i think it was just like the the backing music is a certain

like you think they added no i think the audience is clapping along because it's just like but that's because you're clapped it's easy to clap too yeah i don't think they were like thrilled to like hear any any of the i think that's right also it i don't know how they escalate it so quickly from like a dozen animatronics and country bears to over 100 in this attraction how many it is it's something like it's 115 is it really 115 which there's so many in splash mountain so that kind of helps explain it like that doesn't make sense because they're like the same kind of geese come back but then the geese will be wearing like a different vest and a different hat yeah but it's it's it's different and different on different stages and

stuff and it's also i counted uh i don't have a rough estimate because some some of the songs repeat like 37 songs it's like just snippets of so many songs like country bears is like a perfect album length of songs yes and this is just doing, like, two seconds of, like, where the buffalo roars. It's like the, it is like the sequel to Country Bears, but they got too, they got too much money,

they had too much access. We've seen it a million times in rock and roll and in the movies. We're a filmmaker. In rock and roll. In rock and roll, you see it. You see it in rock and roll

all the time. You know, American Idiot is perfect, but then the next album... You fucked up. You fucked up. Sorry about that. What are you talking about? I've never wanted to storm out of an episode so much.

You would have been so much easier on yourself if you said Dookie and then American Idiot. No, American Idiot, I maintain, is good. And the follow-up... You didn't say good you said perfect that is that is a heck of a word i'll tell you this i don't have a memory of saying perfect even though it happened 45 seconds ago i don't have a memory of learning all the lyrics to a lot of american idiot songs but i somehow do when it comes on the radio it was just an earworm back

you know i really here's what the thing is i said that and i thought i'm gonna have a great reference because i'm gonna say the name of the follow-up album which was not nearly as good i am trying to find it because i'm blanking on the name of it but it was an attempt to do another bigger crazier thing they were trying to do american idiot part two it did not work so country bears equals american idiot and these are both perfect american idiot and country bears are both perfect pieces of art similar definitely of a piece probably one inspired the other you'd have to assume uh yes i think that's probably correct uh the album of course was called 21st century breakdown we know that now was that most that phrase has like been in songs already this is

the most like uncreative but i know you're not saying that one's perfect yeah no that's the bad one scott okay okay that's the flawed album not not the album that has jesus of suburbia on it a nine minute song that i do legitimately enjoy i feel like i'm like i i don't want to keep talking about american idiot but i also don't want to keep talking about america sings so i'm like choosing between two like uh floating blocks of ice and i don't know which one to jump on whether to just jump into the cold water phrase called pick your poison yeah do you want uh i wish i were in dixie or my old kentucky home or do you want uh uh we are we are we are the waiting which is one of the songs called we

are the waiting do they say we are we are we are we are we are the youth of a nation that other stupid song it is we are we that's a pod. That other stupid song. It is. We are, we are. That's a P.O.D. We are, we are. Yeah. Immediately after P.O.D. After P.O.D. Yes, they copied P.O.D. Oh, boy. Boy, oh boy.

Well, it's nice to be more mad at something than America Sings. I want to talk about one of the things I have an issue with America Sings is, I mean, every sort of like making a video there's a defunct land on this from a few years ago um that that hits a lot of good factual stuff and and big points about this and they kevin pretty much a media is like you know why why is this in tomorrow land so already it's confusing where it is and then you you the another thing i came across was like this is this is the last the first ride that walt did not have fingerprints on and it it is i don't know it does feel very inconsistent well it was written by mark davis and albertino i think mostly

albertino being and we'll get here we'll going to do a little tease Later maybe but Albertino Is the basis for Big Al on the Country Bears He was an Imagineer And he looks like Big Al from the Country Bears But I think Mark Davis and him wrote this Did you say Albertino His name is A-L-B-E-R-T

Albertino Yes But one of the things that's inconsistent too Is like it's split up with a prologue L-B-E-R-T-O. Oh, no, Albertino. Yes. Okay, got it. But one of the things that's inconsistent, too, is it's split up with a prologue and an epilogue, and then it's divided into four parts, but those parts split. The first two, Acts 1 and 2,

are the early South and the Old West, so geographical locations. Act 3 is the gay 90s, so like the swinging 1890s, and Act 4 is just called modern times so kind of inconsistent what do you mean well like two it's like okay the the first half of the show is places and big places important oh you're saying there was locations the first two are locations and then there's time periods and then there's time periods and that that just seems like bad production sense.

It's like someone needed to do another pass. Well, do they... Let me ask you this. Do they say those names in the show? I can't remember. Do they say like, and now we go to modern times? Maybe they do? I think these are the behind the scenes,

because I consistently came across these four names. So this might have been within Imagineering, they're referring to it as this i would also say yeah they would calling it the deep south is probably better than being like before the civil war like is that when you were starting to do research on this and then you come across like so what was this thing where the part what's the first part of the deep south oh no sorry the early south the early south it says deep south on the wikipedia here okay oh okay well yeah both are bad sure the first act you can throw into the ocean except lay down by the river

down by the river side heavenly singing voice of burl lives yeah wait let's talk about burl ives because burl ives ties it all together burl ives is uh sam the eagle who is as i've definitely said on the show before all eagles are sam they are there's like three the olympic sam eagle the olympics from the 1984 olympics yeah who i'm very fond of because he was still kind of around la when i was a baby he was hanging out i like him um yeah yeah you just see it you'd see him he was like angeline see him at randy's donuts all the kind of uh typical sure stereotypical la spots uh the sam uh the eagle the muppet obviously and then this is sam eagles can only be named sam right uh here's a tangent which i think is less uh troubling so sure which i'm happy to do um i was like i don't know a lot about 84 olympics sam other that other than i saw

him when i was a baby uh what was the deal with him and i found uh on his wikipedia that there was a in the in that era in like 83 84 85 that it was such a sam mania such olympics mania really that there was a full cartoon series made about him in japan really why uh if you haven't seen sam the 84 o Olympics mascot, it's very similar to that. He's like wearing a red, white and blue hat. He's a very Uncle Sam Eagle, the American symbol. And yet they made a Japanese cartoon about him, which I highly encourage looking up the intro of, you know, I mean, bonkers 80s Japan animation, as you might imagine. But let me read the description of what this show is. Private investigator Sam of Los Angeles is mysteriously transformed into an anthropomorphic eagle resembling the 1984 LA Olympic mascot.

I don't think I really read this before copy pasting it. It's a man and the mascot exists so it isn't a show about the mascot it's a show about a man who gets turned into somebody who looks like the mask is that how like when todd phillips is doing press for joker he's like this might not be the joker it's a different joker it's not the joker yeah yeah yeah we're all eagle everyone's getting eagle fight eagle fight is it like similar to like the story of like not buzz light you're the toy but the band

it was the original version of that yeah whoever did this way if there was twitter in the 80s they would have explained forever like him uh okay with the help of his hilariously busty assistant canary wait wait wait wait a minute.

Hold on here. I can't make it through one sentence of this. There's things to find at every turn. Busty Canary. But it's not a canary. It's a woman. And if you watch the intro, definitely the main thing that is featured about her

is cleavage. And apparently that factors into the show. Her boobs help things happen. but she's a woman story along she's a woman who just resembles a canary well no her name is canary oh she's just a normal woman normal woman named canary like canary yellow i don't think so no i'm not sure but i don't think so i'm giving them too much credit i i can't i can find no uh life preservers for either of you guys i don't think so no i'm not sure but i don't think so i'm giving them too much credit i i can't i can find no life preservers for either of you guys i don't know what how to make this make sense all right okay so with the help of canary sam has to fight the bad guys and chase down his nemesis

a cockroach riding a skateboard okay now is the cockroach a real cockroach yes i did watch the intro and you do watch him ride in on a skateboard and the whole gang. The cast of characters, which from the group shot at the end of the intro seems to be 45 characters. They all get startled and run away from the skateboard cockroach. Okay. And does the cockroach have any like physical thing I should know about? Like a large bulge or something? Is there anything I need to know?

The intro does not reveal how big the cockroach's penis is okay and um i want to say i mean maybe that that can't be big because it might get in the way of the skateboard writing so maybe it's maybe like maybe he's just got like a pretty wide butt maybe it's something else the cockroach the cockroach has a big butt okay that's what i'm gonna take from this uh got it now i can picture the character yeah yeah yeah big old seat um so uh and then just you know that's a little more standard as it goes sam's hat contains almost everything he needs and when the going gets tough he takes out special magical olympic rings to help wait wait his hat gives him what he needs his hat he has yeah there's infinite things

in his okay so it's like uncle sam it's like felix's magic bag setup yeah wait felix the cat has a magic bag yes felix the cat a character from 60 years ago that had a cartoon they should all be more than that from 150 studios yeah he was created in the gay 90s uh 1890 around uh yeah felix had a magic bag like mary poppins's bag and he could pull anything out of it a knife a gun i guess anything anything he needed for mainly weapons yeah he was he was violent a violent cat uh so you're saying this hat is like that but he also had rings with the rings stored in the hat um it says he takes out the rings so i think so i think he probably keeps stored in the hat. It says he takes out the rings. So I think so.

I think he probably keeps those in the hat. I mean, if you had a hat with infinite space, kind of like a phone that's hooked up to the cloud. That's really what this is. You can put anything you want in there except physical. If the cloud, you could put like stuff, your things in your apartment. It could be like a gizmo duck. Do you remember how gizmouck would get his outfit on? His robot outfit?

No. I believe he would say blatherin' blatherskythe. I believe that was his catchphrase. And then wherever... Jason's looking at me like I'm crazy. There's a reason this company is the biggest media company in the world with these home runs. Much like later Iron Man suits, wherever the gizmo duck suit was yeah it would like come to life and fly to um i forget the quentin something was his name was the character's name mary poppin's

bag also has quite a bit of stuff in it yeah yeah i'm just saying that maybe the olympic rings are a similar thing where he had he could like sort of summon them wherever they were at any moment oh man like he doesn't have to keep them in the hat yeah he doesn't have to have them in the head he could have them at home and he summons them or like yeah like iron man summoning the hulk buster armor from a satellite you gotta hope that because those things could be sharp those become like um those are blades if they're whipping around the earth to get to well they're sharp they're sharp maybe or just the speed it's like if you throw a quarter off a skyscraper right by the time it's to the destination it's a weapon i bet yeah i bet you could um or i bet he could change them to to like they could be sharp sometimes but i bet he

could shrink them and they could be like brass knuckles oh that's cool or like the um uh the captain planet rings don't like yeah those expand into so they're like powers shoot out of them or something they well but their powers combined well yeah they each have their own power and then they keep the ring on them right yeah they keep the ring on yeah it's similar to green lantern very similar now that i'm thinking about very similar to green lantern this is great i love that we're not talking about the attire this is sam the 84 i knew that i loved him when I was a baby and I didn't know why

and it was because years later he would help us stall and not talk about the attraction for much longer yeah well look I like the idea of the show I mean I'm dying to find some episodes of Sam Eagle 80s anime

or Eagle Sam maybe Eagle Sam, maybe. Eagle Sam. Yeah. Yeah, let's see if we can do that. And if we don't like the rest of this episode, we'll just edit in an old episode of Eagle Sam for the rest of the time. So right now, if you hear like a fuzz.

We'll record us driving to Little Tokyo to see if we can come up with bootleg DVDs of Eagle Sam. And if we abandon the rest of the episode, you'll hear like a, right now you'll with like a bootleg yeah dvd sam and if if we abandon the rest of the episode you'll hear like a right now you'll hear you'll hold like a fuzz and then it'll just cut out and there'll be a just be and then it'll just be like just japanese dialogue yeah exactly yeah 28 minutes right uh burl lives i think best known uh voice his voice performance as the narrator in the frosty the snowman, the Rankin and Bass Frosty the Snowman. Rudolph and his reindeer, I believe, right?

Or is he also... Sorry, it's Rudolph. Yeah, you're right. You're right. He is a snowman in... He's a snowman in Rudolph. And I love... He's in the claymation one, not the cell painted one.

Yes. And I love that special growing up. I still think it's great. I think his performance in that is great. Yeah. I am not wild about Eagle. I think his performance in that is great. Yeah. I am not wild about Eagle Sam, probably because of just how much he sings Yankee Doodle. You don't really like Yankee Doodle.

And that's more, yeah, and truly, like, I agree with you, but yeah, then that's just like, Yankee Doodle's not a very good song. No, and you have to hear it again and again. Like, glory, glory, hallelujah, at least has some oomph to it or something. What is better, Yankee Doodle or the Boulevard of Broken Dreams? Let's examine the lyrics.

Wait, I don't know, though. Maybe what I read. If I had to listen to one of them, Yankee Doodle's going to be over like that. Do-do-do-do-do-do, or I walk a lonely road. Yankee Doodle. That's the only road that I have ever heard of. No question, it's Yankee Doodle. like that so do do do do do or i walk a lonely road my shadow my shallow heart's the only thing that's beating yes yes please stay away from don't make me hear 21 guns 21 guns is on uh the other 21st century breakdown oh phew okay okay 21 guns 21 guns is too sounds too much like all the young a bad version of all young dudes to me oh absolutely it's another ripoff these dicks

all the young yeah i was mad i made fun of you for time of your life i think one time and i i guess i'm making i apparently i really hate green day well i was shocked because one time you told me like you never even like dookie or anything when you were younger no that would have made sense to like yeah and i wouldn't hate anybody for liking that but like i don't like well look big in 94 just like my arch nemesis weezer i guess these bands i'm like i don't let them for the one album i don't cut them slack even more out more albums from weezer you know yeah pinkerton uh yeah green it's interesting yeah green day i don't know i've never heard anyone who hates green day weezer i've

certainly heard every one of these songs gets a rise at him i want you to you know what would be a good patreon is just maybe even a video component of you listening to all nine minutes of jesus of suburbia the whole like it's like five parts one song one song it's nine minutes and it changes it's like a five different parts it's like a suite dear god uh and i would like to and then you could pause in between each part each suite yeah we interview you and we interview you on how you feel we give you some like behind

hey we watch the behind the music the lyrics on this one and what do you think about this Scott does it make you like it a little more

to find out they actually they recorded that part and like that came to them they wrote it in an hour they recorded it in an hour that's pretty good oh really

I believe it but then the other suite it took like days and days to get that right i'm the son of how i stand when i talk to people by the beach boys hold on i just want to give you a couple lyrics here uh i'm the son of rage and love the jesus of suburbia the bible of none of the above honest also is such like i just went to college and I have some ideas about religion. On a steady diet of soda popping, riddling. Oh yeah.

Cause that's how we treat our kids in this country. We just say, we just like amp up the energy and distract them from the real issue. The rot. We got to do this. We got to do this for a Patreon. We got to do it i guess i this is a real breakthrough i guess i hate 2000 core right this is or this is just after 2000 core well it's like uh 2004 i think yeah so i i don't think it's perfect in like late 90s early 2000s 2000 core

but i don't think we've given a nomenclature term yet to what came after. Yeah, yeah, yeah. War on Terrorcore isn't super fun sounding. We keep talking about another tier for our Patreon, and maybe, yeah, it's like a pain tier, because I've said I'll release a solo, an album I made when I was like 20, and maybe the other, yeah, the other episodes I force you to listen to like Weezer songs

and Green Day songs. This would be a pain tier for the listeners as well. Maybe. Maybe. It'd be tears from them. They'd be crying like five holes. How could we punish Jason, though? Oh, I just have to read the tweets that come in

where someone just says, I actually like that, which happens every episode. It's like, yeah, guys, you can like it. It's fine. We don't care. We like what's in it. You hate that as much as i hate these songs oh no no not to that extent no no no i i'm just goofing a little jason i will say is the most bothered by like negative stuff

yeah mildly even mildly negative i think yeah i just i i sometimes i i i worry i provoke provoke the same reactions of like no i love this thing i'm just goofing on it because it's a little silly i love silly stuff and it's like no this one i this sucks no the america sinks like kind of sucks uh i know the jason torture chair make him eat a banana in the morning oh wow i've been a little better on that recently if i found if i eat something before the banana prime the pump i need to prime the pump because i know i need the fiber and the potassium once again my baby son can have a banana in the morning with no ish well he's got you know he's

just a ball he's he's like a brand new car you just drove it off the lot and jace is an old july and i'm like at best at best carmax certified pre-owned where where it's like oh it's it shouldn't go wrong but you never know uh real quick before we get back to america sings i read the graffiti in the bathroom stall like the holy scriptures of a shopping mall. Huh. Where did you find that random live journal full of poetry from 1999? I want to make it clear. I do like this song, but I do think it's funny.

I have one more thing. If we just fill up 90 minutes, can we not talk about the show? Does that count? That's interesting. Would anyone be? I mean, we've floated the idea of like. This is one nobody's watched. This is related, though, a little bit.

I can sum up like chunks of the show pretty. Well, if you have another, you know, if you have an unrelated America Sings, because I do have a couple things I'd like to discuss. It's not unrelated because it's a Burl Ives thing. I think it's very related to issues that we discuss. Because I was curious more stuff about Burl Ives thing. I think it's very related to issues that we discussed. Because I was curious more stuff about Burl Ives. I know that Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer, but what else was this guy? And he's described as an itinerant singer for a long time.

Yes. A folk singer, like kind of keeping old songs alive. That's why it makes sense for him to be the the narrator of this show um and i discovered that as he traveled the u.s in the early 30s playing his banjo uh he was jailed in mona utah for vagrancy and for singing foggy dew an english folk song which the authorities decided was a bawdy song. Wow, really? The official phrase I found anywhere I googled, Burl Ives foggy dew incident. If you go to the Wikipedia for Mona, Utah,

this is a town that has nothing else to say for itself other than that they jailed Burl Ives in the 30s. Because it was like a dirty song he was singing. A bawdy song. Seeing the word bawdy in wild was was something to me um now let me um uh so all right the song is about because i was trying to then decipher what was up with foggy do what was so this is it required a jailing someone had to be arrested right for saying they didn't even write the song they're singing foggy do with their banjo on the street corner uh and uh okay so the song is about an out the outcome of

an affair between a weaver and a girl he courted uh it has a one of the lines in it is and many a time i rolled my love all over the foggy do something weird about it but also i can't like all over i can't I don't know I mean I guess you could sort of sexualize that But it seems like a stretch So I'm like well that can't be it And then I discovered that in the 60s Burl Ives appeared on the Ed Sullivan show

And he wanted to perform Foggy Dew despite his Arrest for this very song 30 years prior And they said sure But they made him change a line much like famously the rolling stones and the doors had to do these silly line changes to be on ed sullivan i had no idea the third in the offensive song trifecta was burl ives and foggy dew and i'm now going to read you the verse uh of the that contains the lyric that had

to be changed and see if you i want you guys to see if you can guess what is the what was the line that was a problem okay go ahead again i am a bachelor i live with my son we work at the weaver's trade and every single time that i look into his eyes he reminds me of that fair young maid it's the it's the last one it's gotta be i look into his eyes and remind me of the fair young because he had an affair like he didn't wasn't married to the woman that's the source of the problem right yes you got it uh i didn't get it while reading it's a very good but that but you don't have the the line you don't have the line that had to be changed okay yeah i don't you're oh it reminds me of like the a different body part of the woman

no no the bust of the woman no no i was reading the i was reading the original lyrics oh that was not the cleaned up lyrics okay got it that was the ones that could not be on television uh all right the line is again i am a bachelor i live with my son this had to be changed on television to again i am a widower i live with my son oh the idea that you would have a child out of a wedlock could not be broadcast on television in the 1960s what there was no scenario there was no scenario where they were like yeah that could be that could be well i guess yeah that goes by so fast like what i think it's that he he might be back on the scene after the death of his wife and he lives with his son oh yeah yeah yeah it's

just just saying i'm a bachelor i think it sounds like they wanted a clarification yeah i think clarification clarification because like you live with your son and not your son and wife because the wife is dead but i'm not sure within the world of the song if the wife is dead i think no i think she might be alive i think they i think ed sullivan killed the wife for narrative purposes they would rather have the wife be dead than alive and divorced yes it made everyone feel much better about this like this carouser great good now burl you could play your banjo on tv what was happening in this you think of the 60s is like when things started getting wild and this that makes zero sense what a square time that actually ties in almost one to one with the song in america sings called a bird in a gilded cage where it says that

um uh uh one the the songwriter was asked to clarify change some of the words in the song to make it clear the woman in the song is married and not a mistress this is this is again a great tie together to america sings as an example of like man people in the past sure were stupid and insane huh not to look at everything through a 2021 lens but ah the past so many nothing but funny days like it's the exact it was like the same reaction to like uh like a cardi b song it's the exact like it was the exact same like oh my god we can never show this to people and on cardi b stuff is on tv now we're not the only guy her rumphing is like like Ted Cruz and he's kind of like fake doing it. Yeah. Yeah. Now is this was a it was like

the whole world is a bunch of Ted Cruz's and I mean like attractiveness wise to it's yeah, it's the Republican kayfabe. It's the like fake outrage stuff. Yeah, where they're just like trying to get somebody mad. But like yeah, Ted Cruz and give a shit about most of what he says. Megan McCain will miss you

so much on the view. Your different perspective is what brought the fire to the show. Disney owns both Star Wars and Marvel and a daily show where some of the dumbest people in the country sit around a table and have conversations about things they couldn't possibly have, in the most case, any knowledge about. I think they should put, I was going to say, put Sam Eagle in this chair, in the most case any knowledge about i think they should put i was gonna say put sam eagle in this chair i guess he's not a female though i was gonna say uh scott is to green day as jason is to the view yeah jason hates the view we both discovered i don't

i mean i i i like whoopi goldberg and Joy Behar to some extent, and it's just, but even they have some really cockamamie takes sometimes. They at least had like a talent they displayed at one point. I guess we know them from their work. Oh, they've done thoughtful work before. She is her father's daughter. Do you know who her father is? She would have been mad that America Sings got taken out

if she was on the air during this time, I think. That would have been all. Can you imagine the conservative news cycle if the cable news had existed when America Sings got taken out? I don't think we've said yet. America Sings stuck around until 1988. Sure, but still. 14 years.

Yeah, that's true. That is a long time. This is like, they've inadvertently done a series of rides recently where one of the takeaways is like, that was there for what? How long? Can I ask a logistic question

about Sam Eagle as a character? Yeah. This one, America's Sing's one. Not America's Sing's one. Not the Olympic ring slinger from Japan. Or the Muppet. Or the Muppet. Does Sam Eagle have a tattoo on his chest?

He has like a, you know what I'm talking about? He has like, he wears, okay, he wears like a top hat that's very, like stars and stripes. But then he also has like an emblem. I think that's a girdle. I think that's a peritoneal girdle. I gotta perform. Gotta suck in the gut. Or did he shave his feathers off on his belly

and tattoo a big American flag shield? Or dye some of the feathers? Or have colored feathers stitched in? Like, change them out. Put red and blue ones in. I feel like 74 isn't that far removed from like you have a tattoo what are you a sailor so i was sam got it in the war he got it on him like a fleet week and the navy he got a full yeah it's a stick he got a full like belly tattoo

because it's so weird are you looking at a picture of it it looks so strange if it's not a piece of clothing looking at a picture of sam eagle no good maybe google it i mean it just it looks so strange to me and i really can't tell what they were going for other than to make him like yeah like he's like not even like it's a it's an abstraction of a character even. He's holding like an arrow as well. Yeah, the arrow is very funny, which at the end of the attraction, he's holding outside of the Capitol. Yeah, that's true.

Can you imagine he's also got zip ties in his back pocket? Yeah, Sam Eagle for sure. I mean, he's up to something.kee doodle danny says i don't understand all these objections to the recount arizona i'm putting this arrow right through mike pence's head that traitor he's no yankled yankee doodle i'll tell you that ollie al you haven't spoken enough support you're dead to us i feel like there's a reason they didn't put sam eagle into splash mountain they knew something they're like no no no sam eagle's too much no well no those

the animals at that point were like he is a carpetbagger and he shan't be coming uh so yeah i don't know i i cannot find any literature on the idea of what that was on his chest belly um let's okay let's how little can we talk about the show so it is a it's a big review of as we've said a bunch of sort of what now feel like public domain songs but they are like a lot of them are like traditional American songs. And also, as we said, Yankee Doodle is the, it's the wraparound music. That's why it's in it so much.

If you've ever seen the Carousel of Progress, you know that the song is used as the loop. You leave one room and you enter the next room and they're singing Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow. It's a theater in the round. So the same song has to play to seamlessly take you from one room to the next. And in this, they use yankee doodle as that right it's really all on the back of yankee doodle and they not only that but it is like so breathless about yankee doodle not only do they sing it a

bunch of times and then in different styles but then at that you've got that weird part at the end where that sums it up like yankee doodle told us once that songs will build our future that and that sucks so much that might be one of the worst touches that arrived at a tractor i've ever i'm like fuck off burl like fuck you man do i still have this in front of me the past is just a start tomorrow we'll bring songs to you that come straight from the heart another thing he had to say but he no he didn't what is yankee do the a team is working on epcot at this point american adventure is like the seventh samurai kurosawa's seventh samurai that's right like like american adventure is like much more watchable i feel like than this oh yeah i i think one of the things that's interesting about america's adventure is that

there there's an absurdity to it and there's also a consistency to it which is missing from this like these snippets of songs are so short and like like, just the first, okay, right out the gate, you're singing Dixie. You're singing, I wish I weren't, like that. Come on, man. In 1974, you knew that sucked. And then Lil Liza Jane is a very, that seems to have a very murky history of like, oh, the slaves had been heard singing a similar song um and then but then also you bookend that with camptown races which has a very checkered like history you don't know the history of all

of them do you i don't want to know them no i i do know the history of all of them unfortunately but i'm not going to do all of them but it's just like I don't expect Disney to be like the people's history of the United States but it's like you're stripping any context or history from it when you're just putting everything next to each other like that you google any song that like you

sang in preschool and you're like oh my god it's from where what the fuck like horrified but it's like on top of just what you're saying of like like if you look at history for anything you're like oh jesus but on top of that you're like these songs aren't even like who wanted to hear this in the 70s like like it's just not it's like the country bears is like stuff that the songs like were funny or weird or whatever but like i don't know it's just like a it's i guess you're right in the sense that like putting all this stuff together isn't even like an enjoyable show even if you were to

like take out any of the context for it right like some of these songs are like 100 years removed by the time you're at 1974 let alone looking at them nowadays and yeah a lot of it gets stripped away for like schoolyard or chorus children's choruses singing stuff with no offense intended but it it is like when you go back it's like oh ring around the rosy is about the plague jeez there is yeah there is a lot of stuff like that it is it is all it got to a comical point as i was going through the show again i think that i'll to give it some credit acts three and four uh uh start to get start to get better but like i mean there's some nice at that point it's too late it's a little late the down by the riverside i think is a cool set pieces and that is a good like song there's a pig it's like a showgirl and i like that character i was

exactly thinking that i don't i think i always don't like when animals are showgirl and i like that character i was exactly thinking that i don't i think i always don't like when animals are showgirls another pet peeve of scott's animals are showgirls i think yeah i think so and i think yeah anytime we've come across which in theme park world you do you come across this all the time there every theme park if it's been around for over 40 years has like a handful of female characters that are animals that were dressed as showgirls. As showgirls that has removed the context of the sex work that would often go along with that position. This is really Debbie Downer today. Yeah, yeah.

I want you to know that that pig was also doing sex work on the side, gentlemen. I'm adding a little bit of the 1970s Nashville, Robert Altman's Nashville. Yes, that pig was singing for a good time, Jason, but that pig would also turn tricks for you. It's like, yeah, I know that. That's true, I guess. No, I don't like big, yeah, animals have big feathers

and they're in cane can lines and I don't like animal Mae Wests. Why is there so much of this? Would you be comfortable with animal prostitutes? In the same way you don't like that? Well, not because they're everywhere. Because they're not visiting one. What's that?

Because they're everywhere. I would personally say no, but I wouldn't frown on anyone. No, no, we are pro- sex work um okay well let me let me say this uh yeah one thing i was thinking about was um characters who i enjoy seeing in splash mountain what did they do in this because it's a whole like we now you just pass by him on the log ride and you're kind of missing the context what was their thing before and i was especially looking forward to what do what were the sad characters doing because that's the funniest turn in splash mountain is when things things get dark and it's always such a surprise you're cruising along and

then like oh oh, rabbit. And I was like, okay, so it's a possum and it's bunnies. And the answer is pretty funny with both of them. The mother possum has a ton of baby possums. We know that from Splash Mountain. And then you see them in this. And she's singing the song, I Wish I Was a Single Girl Again. Yes.

And that's definitely the sequel to the guys the guys that turn me on turn me down i feel like that's the sort of a similar joke in the same it's in the same lane of like but not as good not nearly as good not as not as good but i like i like knowing that like okay so her character context is she hates the children yes she's mad at having children yeah that's the joke get rid of the kids and then the other one the sad rabbits yes the rabbits do like what could this have been and you know like all right i don't think they changed it from a happy face to a sad face they must have been sad in america sings too and in that case it is ma rabbit with a bunch of kids and there she's upset because she doesn't know where her husband is but is pretty sure he's at the bar like it's a she's wailing about the her drunk dad multiple drunks in this

that's another like we're talking about this being just unpleasant and it's unpleasant on 10 different levels those good old songs of america and then like where's my husband yeah like every context it's almost every except for just like looking at a picture of the characters every other every other piece yes in the history of everything i think it's why we thought we should do this yes because we like i know that oh and then they moved to the splash mountain that'll be fun to talk about and one of them is a goose it's star tours and we'll talk about that and i've seen pictures i know that this show is a blast then you watch a video no it's not a blast no it's not it's a bummer too late it's it is like they got like some message like everything like country bears is like they're like very jokey

about everything and i'm like it's like ah some gallows humor ah yes aha oh but that's okay next on to the next one this is like this rabbit looks like she's been depressed for 30 years i don't know all rabbits can live till oh and laudanum and opium yeah she is every sort of old-timey coca-cola like a crazy coca-cola the doctor's out of options and they're going to consider a lobotomy because she's so sad yeah this is a song about the uh the humors and you're you've got too much black bile not enough yellow bile it's it is really like grasp you're just we're just grasping for something and then you're like yeah there's those two sad characters from splash mountain oh yeah oh oh yeah they're still sad here i'm still sad yes yeah it would be funny

if they like had a smile on this and then they curved the smile down sorry robot you're sad forever unfortunately the story behind that is when they curved it you could hear the breaking of the the robot bones and they said it sounded like screaming yeah the robots have feelings you know that yeah they have they can feel pain in a lot of ways that the robots that made it out the the with the easiest uh assignment were the geese that were stripped and put into star tours got an early retirement got out of there early they didn't get put in friggin splash mountain oh yeah yeah they were like with that anymore oh wait wait a minute but one of the but in star wars there were a lot of no no in the star tours one there's a nod uh uh i I saw someone point this out, that Star Tours,

the goose that became a robot in the queue for Star Tours is singing, I've been working on the same droid to the tune of, I've been working on the railroad, which does appear in this show. In America's Sinks.

So it's a little nod there. But I'm just saying, you didn't get put in another problematic ride. You get in Star Wars, a big famous thing. They must have been like oh shit that's a big upgrade we dodged a friggin bullet here and some of these goes geese are drunk you want to get away from them yeah it's a sad ass show and star tours is like fun and like there's adventures those geese got lucky man that is funny that they just that that's how unpopular this thing was at a point that like yeah just get rid of it nobody will know it like oh there's four geese got lucky, man. That is funny that they just, that's how unpopular this thing was at a point that like, yeah, just get rid of it. Nobody will know it.

Like, oh, there's four geese at the beginning. Just get rid of them. Start tours is happening. Get it over there. Skin it, skin it. Put a pair of binoculars on its head. Yeah, rip its skin off. You got yourself a Johnny Five.

And you got a promotion for being resourceful. I've got a fun anecdote. Oh, go ahead. Is it? I'm scared. scared a song i singing in the rain appears in this i knew you were saying in the rain appears in this and i'm sure i've probably i must have talked about this on this show but i was so delighted to learn like a decade or so ago that singing in the rain did not first appear in the gene kelly singing in the rain singing in the rain appeared in a stage show called the oh what is it called the hollywood music box review and a movie

called the hollywood review of 1929 the gene kelly singing in the rain film is what we nowadays refer to as a jukebox musical all All, like, most of those songs, with, I think, the exception of Make Him Laugh and Moses Supposes, appeared in earlier MGM musicals of the 20s and 30s. So it essentially, like, Singing in the Rain is essentially, like, the Moulin Rouge of its time. Oh, yeah, sure.

And I am delighted by that fact. It's on the AFI 100. It is on the AFI. Well, deservedly so it is fun it is a boy america sings make singing in the rain look like singing in the rain yeah look like the hollywood review of 1929 yeah uh that's that's fun uh can i say who my favorite character name is in the show oh you guys know what i'm talking about i'm gonna say well there's only like a handful of characters that they bothered to give a name to.

There's also a good point. All the country bears seem to have names and then they were like yeah we'll name three of the characters. No time. Saddlesore Swanson. Yeah. And what does he do again? I don't know. He sings. He's got a guitar.

That's a good name. I'm not even saying I like the character. I'm just saying I like the name. Yeah. That's a fun name. It's got some personality that's a good name i'm not even saying i like the character i'm just saying i like the name yeah that's a fun name it's got some personality to it well and i like you know you uh that when you see the when you go on splash mountain again now you can point out some of these character names you can say that's don't just say oh look at those funny gators in the hats who play instruments. Those are the swamp boys. And the vultures are not just vultures who are surmising your doom. They're the boot hill boys.

So be sure to turn to whoever you're in the log with and tell them those facts, especially if the other person in the log is a 12 year old boy who saw you slowly taking off your socks before the attraction began then lay be sure to turn around and say these are the boot hill boys uh yeah i have not done that although it seems like it's something i would do then the giant irish uh dog who works for disney security will beat you with a shillelagh. Will any of these characters survive the transformation of Splash Mountain? I had this question. And because you do got to populate that.

It's a very long ride. Do we think that they resemble Princess and the Frog enough? They don't, like, fight it style-wise. Right. Is there room in a Princess and the Frog ride for a clinically depressed rabbit? I'd like to think there is. A stressed-out mother possum. Yeah.

Regretting her choice to have children. Yes. I'd like to think there is. But it is a question i've had because there's so many robots here yeah um yeah will the showgirls remain i don't know i mean other option is just like promote them all as that one goose was long ago and just make them strip them all for parts and make them all droids so now the star tours line is 115 droids all clanking around there's barely room for tourists to be in line put them in galaxy's edge walk that walking around walking around yeah those cat walks just like

constant droid walk cycles yeah so much noise you never aren't seeing droids up there well they sure do sing light arose a lot here on batuu well there's no way to change the programming for some of them they have to say have to still sing some classic songs from the american songbook i mean home on the range applies to there's ranges and uh sure tattooing yeah, and you can change some of that. Maybe reprogram them for the lyrics. Trist Twistin' Batuu Essay. That's a weird... Okay, so you've got kind of these eras of old bad music

that remind you that there was no good song in America until maybe the 40s. Yes. Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy comes along and everyone loses their damn minds. Yeah, we're cooking. But now you end up, yeah, so you end up in the section

that is called Modern Times. And quickly in the Modern Times section, you have like some animals and old college sweaters and pennants singing a tisket a tasket and that's what you could see that represents modern times in 1988 1988 michael jackson is out like it's like imagine what was george michael is topping the charts but you get to hear old gray mare just ain't what she used to be yeah it's not it wasn't

a hundred years ago where this ride was like it was existing an old gray mare is one of the bops like that's the one that everyone's like okay we don't have to worry about this one um i'm not i'm not kidding that in my notes i i have in my notes here we go jason's going to say one of these songs is a bop yeah but i guessed wrong i guessed rah rah boom d.a uh nope two problems no i didn't know that i wasn't saying you were gonna like a problematic bop i um i always thought that song was nonsense and i was like where it is to rob rob god damn uh you did you did have an opinion about rah rah boom da in your past i just never thought i it just sounded like gibberish uh a tisket a tasket i just knew i didn't know what the context of that song was but i knew a tisket a tasket anyone who talking this or that chris kirkpatrick you could get your ass kicked from the eminem song

uh without me you're saying that's how you patch you can get your ass he says a tisket a tasket and i never knew what that meant like where you didn't you didn't know that was from a song i didn't know that was like oh an effort like an old time he said or like an old song or something eminem loves the classics sure he loves the old time he loved america sings yeah his mom would take him just to watch that clap along the yankee dude that's the only thing he liked that's the only thing he liked about his childhood he would say yeah there's a song where it's a real positive song that he wrote about america sings the biggest influence i have to say saddle sore swanson he's he has done a posthumous track with saddlesore swanson as well uh where it's like kind of in in a like a dreamlike image of him oh yeah sure rare outtakes sampled him

like they've sampled saddlesore he worked with the saddlesore estate yeah sorry i got it wrong it's a tisket a tasket i go tit for tat with anyone who's talking shit and that shit chris kirkpatrick you can get your ass kicked. I mush mouthed it a little. He was there at the time not talking any shit about Green Day. And I'm mad that he was. Of all the people to be targeting, he didn't come through for me back in the day. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, I mean, maybe he's still. Green Day's still. They're kicking. So maybe. Next time they come back, yeah. I would like to sort of like brainstorm an entire Green Day version of America Sings. Starting back to Dookie and then even going back before that.

So every room that you turn to is a different. Yeah, the first one would be Kerplunk, which was the album before Dookie. And then there's two EPs, Smoothed Out, Slappy Hour, and before dookie and then there's a there's a two eps smoothed out slappy hour and i forget the other one it's a number what's bothering me the most in this episode uh there's some good songs on kerplunk it's a very lo-fi uh it's a much more lo-fi one but there's there's some good songs and that would be the first room dookie would be the act two but it's still sam eagle it's uh sam eagle but he is the other character is the jesus of suburbia character from the story like billy joey played a song strumming on his guitar yeah that's true light and people die. Yeah.

And then, yeah, Nimrod and Insomniac, Room 3. And then Act 4 is Modern Times with, of course, a triple album. You don't think you should expand this out to hit the other mall punk or the mall rock of its day? Absolutely not. Like No Doubt or Bush or something? Absolutely not. Okay. Only Green Day. I'm pretty much...

Green Day sings. I'm useless then in that case i'm useless if you're just taking the green day and scott's mad so you might be on your own uno dos tre uno dos tre the triple album they released jesus fucking uno dos tre because tre cool is the name of the drummer so you just want to expunge this shit from your brain you want to just vomit these awful phrases out not have to have them uh anymore if if you meant vomit in a good way yes because i love saying these things i do like i do it's like when you're actually like oh you're like stretching for the first time after a flight or something i haven't been able to say uno dos tre for a long time

and now getting to say it really feels like ah that feels good stretching my arms here like i left her a long multi-year flight of not being able to talk about green day albums here that's like if you that's like you just stretched your arms out real wide and smacked another passenger in the face that's what happened to me that's that yeah in your instance uh i i smacked you in another like maybe there's a person on my right that i was like more of a massage like i was rubbing their back. And they liked it. They like what's coming out here.

So, I would like, yeah, I'll come up with a foolproof set list for Billy Joe Sings or whatever we're calling it. Forex. Well, share it with Lindsay. See how long she stays in the room. Whisper it into a seashell and throw it in the Pacific. You may as well have just said, go soak your head, Fresh Boy. I'll write it up.

The audience is going to want to see what I would do thematically, like what makes sense. Sketches. You sure? Well, I didn't say I was going to sketch Billy Joe. Maybe it's the Jesus of suburbia. Well, now we're back on. If we get to write the spoken word, say we get to write the skits.

What would Burl Ives say about Green Day? If Burl Ives was singing Nice Guys Finish Last. I cannot emphasize that the framing device is just not helping in this. The Yankee Doodle framing device. No. I don't. How many times do you want to hear that song? Can I say real quick? Oh, yes.

I mean, I think, yeah, I think there's many different ways. Because I was always confused about the reference of macaroni in Yankee Doodle. Yankee Doodle went to town riding on a pony, stuck a feather in his cap, and called it macaroni. Yeah. We sang this as children. No idea what it meant. This article says when yankee doodle became a popular tune in the late 18th century to call someone a macaroni was to

connect them to a satirical type typically a male overly concerned with continental fashions and foreign art which i guess maybe it's like homophobic but also like foreign art like i don't know like a snooty high society man who likes fashion and art like i guess so like is that there you go like the big wig like powdered wit kind of like yeah i guess so they were like oh you're a fancy boy hey yankee doodle like yeah yeah yankee doodle is just essentially david letterman's dialogue from cabin boy do you want to buy a monkey isn't that the dialogue and no he can do how he says like oh you're some sort of fancy boy oh right yes yeah there's more scene yeah yeah keeps going yeah

sorry i don't remember cabin boy i that's weird wait so the guy is you're a macaroni if you wear that stuff yeah the article is also confusing because it's like it might not be that but like i had no one yeah but it seems like that was like uh that was a either a light diss or some sort of a diss it's like when regular people are like obama's wearing a tan suit and i'm mad yes yes there's the same outrage of like this man likes art this man is knowledgeable about art i mean i'm certainly feeling some heat right now for being so knowledgeable about billy joe armstrong's art i'm certainly feeling some heat right now for being so knowledgeable about Billy Joe Armstrong's art. You feel as if this is some macaroni establishment?

A little bit, yeah. I kind of feel like, you know, I'm kind of more of like a worldly culture guy when it comes to one of the great artists of the 21st century, 21st century breakdown. When it's in, yeah, I'm feeling- Wait a minute. The good stuff's in the 20th century don't tell

me his 21st century output is there's a new he has a new song that samples that uh joan jett song that was written by gary glitter which is a good song but well problematic jason i can dislike it on moral grounds now for more about gary glitter don't gary jason don't i've been gary glitter i believe though doesn't make any money off his songs anymore so i don't think he got paid from i did an article because when joker came out everyone was like gary gooder's getting a lot of money for the iconic stair dancing scene but i believe he's not i don't want gary glitter to get money from it obviously but if that was off the table the animatronic show i would like to see now is an animatronic dancing down the stairs if they did that somewhere forget about spider-man flipping through the air if there was a set of stairs on a dc campus and joker could

do the dance every day come on yeah get on this This is such a great idea because they're so advanced. And I'm trying to, like, Olaf can walk now and, you know. But we can get, yeah, we can get a dancing Joaquin Phoenix Joker down the stairs at a Six Flags. And then cops chase him away. And then the loop starts again. And you never know when it's going to happen. It's going to happen 20 times a day. It's a good show. At the very least least until the technology

is perfected just get one of the valencia teens to dress up and do it why not like why not like a bunch of them joker every employee at a six flag should be dressed like the joker jesus is the joker like the fight club for this generation of like high school kids oh for sure you think so he's like the boondocks it's probably bigger because more people saw it than now that's true fight club was one of the breakout like dvd like yeah cold hits if you're a younger person let's ask do you love the joker like the movie the movie specifically or the character the movie the movie the the the philips joker yeah okay there's a lot

of iterations of the joker that i think are of course more interesting or more fun like jared leto joker oh yeah well that's just cool i mean skrillex we all know and love skrillex he's still around he's still top of the charts yeah you know um but uh yeah i look i want to see i want to see the you guys didn't watch the end of the zack snyder justice league but they tease a future post-apocalyptic movie where jared leto teams up with batman oh right spoiler alert teams up they live in the society is that where though we live in a society that not in the movie that was just a clip for that was an outtake drive everyone insane yeah jared leto improvised that that sucks on the day and they put in the movie that was just a clip for that was an outtake drive everyone and say yeah jared leto improvised that that sucks on the day and they put in the trailer but is that

line is not in the actual movie still things that were shot that aren't in the snyder cut yeah so there are there are he tried to shoot a scene with a green lantern and the ww wb wouldn't let him put it in so there's still more there could be yet another snyder cut coming yeah aren't they talking about the snyder verse and the ayers cut of suicide squad yes but they are talking about that of course there's the one cut we want the schumacher cut of batman forever well that i think that's three hours yes please i mean i'd like to see the schumacher cut of justice league just take the same footage and put a bunch of like trombones in it and uh-huh and like when you two and seal wall to wall let's schumacher fi all the movies like sound effects bonk boink yes i i completely agree with that yeah that is

a good idea it is a good idea i i i think a way one thing we i don't think we've touched on yet is that the like big finale song of america sings is old lang syne that's really weird that's weird too that's america now to sing to america that is weird but then tgi TGI McScratchies every show. Almost as equally weird, slightly before it, they do Joy to the World. Not the Christmas Carol, the Joy to the World. The Three Dog Night. The Three Dog Night song, which is from an album from 1970. So... Closer.

Closer. Very, like, by Disney standards, might as well be topical in this ride. Like, that's pretty current to get into. Some of the closest they've ever come, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Being right on. And, like, I think kind of, like, a universally beloved.

Like, correct. That makes sense to me in here. Sure. It's the rest of the show that I have a problem with. I was thinking, if I was somewhere and I saw a band go, all right, here we go. Jeremiah was a boof. I would turn in the opposite direction of that band. But you're like begging for it at that point in America's Sakes.

I think. Oh, yeah, absolutely. It's like the best song. What's the what is the best song in the show? Is it this? Is it Hound Dog? Hound Dog? Maybe it's Hound Dog? Hound shake do you like rattle and roll maybe it's shake rattle and might be shake rattle and roll i just saw that the end of clue they play that song i think it's shake rattle and roll i think it's shake rattle hound dog is fine i've never i've never been a big elvis guy ever been an elvis guy like sometimes i listen to and and i go oh yeah he does have a nice voice but Elvis never grabbed me I get it I get it but yeah I was never way into him I like there's

a lot of wonderful covers of down by the riverside I do think that's a great song alright um I like the that we that we do get into the rock era in modern times and I just like the I don't know what site i copied this

from but i just like the dry description of that you see a rock band consisting of a hippie stork with dreadlocks love beads and granny glasses a porcupine on drums and a rooster with his crest teased into a freight wig and that's what they think rock music it's similar to like am i remembering correctly that those vultures in jungle book look beatlesy but then they didn't do a beatlesy song they did a barbershop right song but they're like all right so we're getting we're representing the beetle hair we're representing the shaggy hair in a year by which they had stopped doing that hair. Yeah. That is like, it's one in the same with that. Like Disney thinks, yeah,

shaggy hippies, hippie dweebs. They're always like rail thin. It is like, why aren't the, like the Chuck, like the Chuck E. Cheese had the peach boys.

Like, why aren't the peach boys in this? Or why aren't the Beatles? Like, why isn't there? Yeah. I was thinking of it. Cause Chuck E.

Cheese is a lot of old songs in it too, but like, it's fun and a little sillier. And this just, I don't know, despite the comical, like whimsical animals, it feels like it takes itself so seriously. That is probably what, I mean, obviously a bunch of older guys of this era probably were like,

we must do justice through song for the bicentennial and they probably yes the probably they were like this show is not this show with a showgirl pig is not a joke this is nothing to be we'll have a few mild laughs but in general no the show with the eagle and a top hat needs to be serious and the only attempted humor we haven't said this really the only joke throughout is that early on we hear pop goes the weasel and a little weasel pops out and says pop goes the weasel again and again and then this happens at every single scene you were at his next scene it happens he keeps you don't know where he's going to show up and they put all their jokes in that basket the one not changing joke over and over again look

if you're that weasel if i come across you on the street i am drop kicking the weasel is bad the weasel is really it is not good bad it's it's up there with the yankee doodle finale of like worst elements of this ride i mean it's i i think i wish they had kept adding stuff throughout like because you can reprogram chucky cheese of course yeah i had a matron all the time people in gas stations who are doing it still they should have as the 70s gone after nashville robert allman's natural came out they should have put in the it don't worry me song that they're constantly singing that very melancholy uh is played over the end of the chaos of that movie i don't know if they were willing to be that subversive all right well that i that's my punch up that's yeah sure yeah i would i would yeah my pun well

i already said my punch up which is perfect it's more billy joe send the right into the future send the show into the future you're gonna go work on the you're gonna work set my punch up, which is perfect. It's more Billy Joe Armstrong. Send the show into the future. You're going to work on the punch up. Yeah. Make your plans. Yeah, sure. But yeah, look, there's a hundred things you could do. There are better songs in the early 20th century. I think they picked wrong songs throughout.

I think what always kept me away from really checking this thing out is when I was like, okay, wait a minute. So it's a revolving theater and it's a bunch of animatronics that sounds like fun what are the kinds of songs that sound very good and i think that's why i hadn't watched this until this week when we decided to talk about it um more fun more fun on the way out the door i saw a clip from an old christmas special where glenn campbell is on stage he pops around all the locations and he sings christmas songs with these characters and i don't think they reprogram the robots i think it's just editing to like make a pseudo sync up happen but it's better it's more fun yeah i did make i kind of liked the pig dancer because uh glenn was kind of like you know cozying up to her and i was they had some chemistry

i felt yeah i hear that so uh that little clip that that clip genuinely is like so much more fun than the show i am begging for that i mean the idea of the current iteration that we know of is a very american uh creation uh especially essentially uh partially done by the coca-cola company adopting the idea of santa claus as a man like a lot of stuff that we consider christmas traditions are very recent in modern history and i think that would easily those traditions and songs could slot into this why aren't they like singing like frank sinatra songs or something clearance i think i think that's got to be it yeah it's gonna be why none of these yeah because you and songs could slot into this. Why aren't they like singing like Frank Sinatra songs or something? Clearance, I think.

I think that's got to be it. Yeah, maybe. That's got to be why none of these... Yeah, because you don't have any of like... Yeah, songs are getting good in that Cold War... Yeah, those are old songs. ...Gershwin era. By that point in the 70s, those songs were still popular, but they were old. Yeah.

And those songs like people play still. That would make so much more sense. Yes. Like not really jazz represented per se yeah it's so like yeah how so hokey all it's like it's like i it's like the old guys didn't have like a great taste like country bear has some tradition some original songs some sort of like joke songs i think it's a lot of like classic country and folk songs but this but it's a different kind of folk song this is like when you go to it's like when you go to a wedding you've been to a

wedding where you're like this dj just sucks like this is just so like he doesn't know how to get people up there was a good flow going on the dance floor and he's killed it like he kills it after one song he or she it doesn't matter um where yeah but it's like it's a no like you just that person who's doing the playing of the music doesn't know yeah you can and that's how this feels to me they don't know whoever put this together doesn't know how to get a crowd on their feet are the videos that i watched did not end in a standing ovation no except what people got up to but i think that was to leave yeah mark look mark davis obviously is involved in stuff we like i would not let him dj my wedding sorry mark yeah but uh i guess a dj needs to know

if you're gonna like create a nice little flow to a set list you you want to you want to end big you want to end with something great yeah of course do we maybe want to so that this isn't it's similarly maybe we need to end with a bang sure with i'm glad we saved this information anything else to say about the ride before because i think we if this episode's had a bunch of like weird cruddy and dark stuff although i ended up having fun uh you know i think we got something fun here to end with but uh oh yeah for sure i i know i'm good i think i'm're set. Okay, okay. We can skip over the... The gruesome death.

The horrible death. Yeah, the horrible death. Oh, yeah, that's awful, too. Because if anyone was getting ready to comment, I wonder if they're going to talk about the death. They didn't talk about the death. We just did. We talked about it.

That's it. We have to acknowledge it. The ride only shut down for two days. This is one of the grimmest things I think we've come across. It's so awful. Yeah, you can learn about it in the Defunctland video where Kevin Perger even put in a warning card and it's bad. Yeah.

It's just bad. This is a thing in general. I'm always like, when we run across the rides where there was a death, I'm like, does anyone really want to hear us talk about the deaths? Sure. I don't know that. I don't think it's fun to be here. This one is so notorious and it's negligence and it's shocking they didn't catch it ahead like catch that this switching the clockwise versus counterclockwise rotation

that no one it's insane it's a huge lapse of safety and yeah yeah um but yes that that also that ends up being like what people i think is kevin says in that video he's like yeah that's what people remember this ride for also so yeah getting gutted for to fill out splash mountain every grizzly every con every piece of con every layer of this ride or this show yeah anyway i don't think we knew i don't think we knew i don't think i fully knew until we were talking and i was like oh no yeah yeah boy we just like uh landmines in every direction, apparently. Except for the end. Oh, yes. Because.

Here's what we have to say. So, all right, it's Fourth of July weekend. There was a long time ago where we talked about, like, okay, well, if, hey, if old Joe, if old Joe Biden is aiming for things to be up and uh by the fourth of july which things sort of uh confusingly are to some extent um yeah i think i will still spend my uh i think i'll spend my fourth of july still uh avoiding crowds not for not for uh uh health reasons but just because i think it made me realize i don't want to be in crowds anymore oh yeah sure yeah sure yeah so um but anyway i mean there's still it's been gradual but i think there's good feelings and we we had just like we we had said

maybe is fourth of july maybe a good time to do something that we keep we've talked about for so long uh something we talked about being the first thing back at when we were back in person and then we realized like oh it's too much to pull off it's something we talked about doing in 2020 it's something we have teased so aggressively it is not this show but another animatronic animal yes musical yes and i think you know what we mean at this point talking about the country bears yes um so i mean what from our perspective is is it maybe it's just it's felt too daunting it's felt like uh you know like like really are we there are we ready are we in a place yeah certainly felt daunting there's been a lot of angles like i think oh then there's this angle to take on it there's a song there's the history there's the making of and so it's been a little

daunting it was cursed because we said we're gonna to do it in this way at this time. And that pretty much is a pod, any podcast, if you do that, life is going to get in the way. Like, I don't know that any of us expected America to, like, the vaccines to, like, hit the gas and, like, stuff to open that quickly. Yeah. Like, we very quickly tried to jump and get some, like, back, you know, go back to theme parks. We've been talking about not going to theme parks for 16 months. Let's get to some theme parks.

Yeah, that's true. Life finds a way. Life gets in the way. I don't know what to say. Lots going on, folks. But I think the main thing is ambition has grown. We want to do this right. We want to do we want to do this right we want to do

some fun with it and that is why we are announcing officially country bear jamber week an entire week and we and which we should say the phrase a daily podcast series yes devoted to the country bear jamboree yes we're gonna do it right we're gonna do it uh exhaustively um not 18 part not 19 no no no no no no we will i mean what like why would we do that many but it's not as if this is a uh shopping next to a theme park of course yeah no but and and the rules and metrics of country bear jamboree are uh evolving uh as we speak it's being locked down as we speak by that you mean we don't know when we're gonna do it yet that's what you're saying well but that and also like and then it'll be this oh i know exactly what it is well yeah my this has been mike's opus for a while and i will actually i'll

give scott scott was the idea to do it. Scott had a great for the week, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Which, now I end up getting mentally punished

by these things. I'll have the idea and then I end up regretting it later. But I don't, this seems like, this seems like a blast, fun way to,

to cover a classic. And the idea, and all I'll say is my idea the whole time was what the finale is going to be. That was, that is what I'm very, very excited. I'm excited for everything, but very excited for the finale of this.

Right. Well, now it's- So, we'll see what that is. Again, we keep digging ourselves deeper into what we owe- I've promised, yeah. For the country bears. I've promised a real spectacular finale. Mm-hmm.

So- But you keep saying it. Yeah, no. It's going to be like- You're going to say it again and again until the expectation is so you got a minute and a half it's like sam eagle and muppets and the muppets 3d yeah um you know what if you have any suggestions for how we do that if there's things that you don't want us to to miss if there's something where you're like that's how it should go if there's uh if anybody's listening

who you know like hey our favorites you know what we're talking to. If anybody, our favorite guests, if you want to come talk about anything about Country Bears, feel free. Or it'll just be us for four days because we determine nobody cares. Four days, five days. We don't know that either. I don't know. But it'll be container week, Country Bear Jamber week. I think it's five.

I think it's going to be five. It'll be five? Okay, great, great, great. But you never know. These things grow they have a way of growing that's a good point it could be a full

traditional calendar week of seven I don't know how it would be seven but that would be it doesn't feel like seven but five this isn't five

feeling like two but it's well five is a work week five is a work week yeah so five is a work week although I mean maybe

all of a sudden I'll try to slip in like Captain Kidd's buffet into Country Jamber Week. Would that count? That's getting annexed. I don't know, maybe. I think it's closed, by the way. Do we know? I think so.

We've heard. We've heard. Captain Kidd's Captain Closed. The Google page or Yelp pages are a little... Those can never be 100% accurate, but I think some people said they went by it yeah it was closed so it's not somewhere i'm dying to be right no i'm not sure but i am dying to be in the in the country bear jamboree in my mind we will do this soon we don't know exactly but by the further now and then we'll get then we'll do an announcement in 14 months where we break down what it's

going to be. And then we still don't do it. Yeah. Just keep getting slid and slid. Um, what is, wait a minute. What is this?

What's the analog from the AFI top 100? What is a movie that kept taking forever? Is it the apocalypse now? Titanic's on the AFI list. Is it? Yeah. That took quite a while to do and then apocalypse now if you're including is uh is the is verner herzog's fitzcarraldo on the list uh

it's caroldo's the one with the boat right it's yes it's trying to it it is like the plot of fitzcarraldo like we the country bears is us trying to drag a riverboat up the mountain scott you know we're talking about i haven't seen drag a riverboat up the mountain scott you know we're talking about i haven't seen it i'm aware of the difference yeah yeah he was trying to there was he's trying to actually pull like a boat in real life over like this hill to into another body of water and the boat got stuck that way for a very long time stalling every like everybody was stuck on location people going mad there's a documentary about it uh klaus kinski is regular madman already yeah it's like yeah batman and the joker herzog and kinski yeah wow uh so that's our country

bears the same thing it's okay okay we found one more afi analog or afi adjacent that might not be on the afi list also warner herzog also direct grizzly Band and that's also bear related should that get thrown in I mean we have to decide which of each song is aligned with which Werner Herzog movie there's so much to determine and we fit it all in five we'll see oh yeah yeah Tears Will Be The

Chasers of the Mind that's kind of like the um Port of Call Bad Lieutenant oh yeah is that a Herz song i think i believe so yes yes it is yeah okay so uh it's on the books we can't take it back now we can't delay it still but hopefully we hopefully we do it soon we'd like to do it we can do it soon we all want to take you know because it's a summer we like to see our families. That would be a nice thing. Yeah, yeah. And travel a little. And so it's in the works.

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