Podcast: The Ride - And, Uh, Dr. Stevens with David Danipour

Episode Date: December 23, 2022

David Danipour (Flight of Passage's Dr. Stevens) join us to talk about being part of an e-ticket attraction! Featuring secret auditions, being directed by Joe Rohde, and his on-ride experience! The Big Seed and Na'vi Babies episodes up at The Sivako Gate: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

FOREVER! DOG! worry you're in good hands we've enlisted the dr stevens from the avatar flight of passage pre-show once he's matched to a microphone we can start to talk and uh podcast we welcome david danipore to the final feliz navidad, the way of winter, a yuletide celebration of all things Avatar here on Podcast the Ride, a podcast series that will soon end, after which, sadly, we will be in Kansas anymore. I'm Scott Gairdner. That's about the reaction that deserves. I'm really like, I'm trying to think about what it means.

I mean, I know what it means, but the actual words itself. The grammar was so next level. It was so wrong that it was a new type of grammar that works. I would have to see it on a piece of paper to really decipher it. Yes, I'm here. I'm looking at it on paper. It's not helping me. Well, text it to me and I'll look.

Mike Carlson, for the last time, I see you. I see you. Sharon, I see you. I see you. I see you, yeah. Sounds more like I see you. Oh, like I see you. Medical trouble. Yeah. No, no, no. you yeah it sounds more like i see you like a oh like i see you medical trouble yeah um no no we

are we're wrapping up our our avatar celebration here um and by now the way of water has made a billion dollars and i would like to think that the way of winter has done similarly for us and our influencer check from james is coming in j James Cameron, I'm sure. Oh, yeah, yeah. Knowing that so many phrases we've contributed to the way. Wait, we haven't talked on the show about the new one because we gave the word mighties in the movie. I called it the mighty Akron. That's right. And then now there is the weekend song.

Yes. And the week. Wait, I already don't remember what it is. What's the phrase? You give me strength. You give me strength, I believe. You give me strength. The thing that our character, the sector keeper, our real guy we know, the sector keeper says. He's a real character, all right.

He sure is, yes. Thereafter, they're listening to Podcast the Rides, catchphrases, and incorporating them. That is crazy. The Weeknd is doing a song that's the title of it is a catchphrase from our show. I mean, we're not crazy enough to think that he the title of it is a catchphrase from our show. They're not. I mean, I don't think we're not crazy enough to think that he's actually stealing it from it. But the coincidence. It's getting a little unreal.

Well, and you know what? Like so much of this little journey and talking about Avatar for a little while has been about kind of just like steeping in the culture and finding it together and making the cultural impact the much talked about cultural impact together and maybe maybe it's what if it's not coincidences what if we are part of it what if what if it's the the cultural impact of avatar is going to be helped by the cultural impact of podcast the rock yeah i think you're right i think you're right and then in a certain like in a future movie there'll be a like a character named jason eating a hot dog or something and it'll continue and continue and continue uh until the three of us are in one of them maybe i don't know i i we can we can only hope so um i mean were that to happen oh you know what there was a tease i read i think like the fifth one might

take place on earth or something it's gonna come back i think they have to come fight like nature nature is that the what a neat tree what's the name of the character the teary teary jesus i'm gonna learn nothing edit that out so that sounds good uh it says something about her learning about earth whoa but he but Earth sucks in the distant future. You just don't want to go there. That's a bad idea. Well, but a recipe for some fun. I'm up for whatever it is because my love of this franchise has grown only while we've been doing this.

Hope you guys feel similarly. lucky enough to end up being part of the franchise uh then and only then would we be close to something achieved by our guest today who is an actual part of the don't shake your head as if that's not no build your set you are you are a genuine part of the avatar mythology yes a character in the uh way in the character is way beyond all the events of the films even we'll we'll we'll talk about it uh and i'm so excited he's here to close out the series i can't think of a cooler way to do it uh you may have seen him on the good place on west world or on the dropout and you have definitely seen him in the pre-show of avatar flight of Passage at Disney's Animal Kingdom. The gentleman who plays Dr. Stevens himself, David Danipour.

Hi. Hey. Thank you, guys. Thank you, Michael, Jason, and Scott. Thank you. Thanks for it. We should have done name tags. No, no, no. I know your names.

I've been listening to the podcast. Oh, thank you. Thanks. So funny. You guys are so funny. And I was saying it earlier and i'll say it again since it's recording now oh okay you guys have great voices it's like you guys are like radio hosts feels it sounds like you guys are you know moving on up oh thanks this is a nice thing to say

because i do i that's not something i would think that we have is like the slickness and that's the thing with radio hosts look down on podcasters for for not being able to like you know read a five second promo or yeah like we could talk up a song like he would talk up don't stop believing on the radio and like coming in here it's journey with don't stop believing that little thing where they throw it away right before this journey with don't stop believing yes but that's like that's only like a five second job you guys are doing like that's a good guys are doing 90 minutes of like you know sure content well thank you that's like that's only like a five second job you guys are doing like you guys are doing 90 minutes of like you know sure content well thank you that's nice to hear i mean if anyone wants to give us just like d traditional dj jobs i think we're interested

like we'll be like wolfman jack or uh so now you guys want avatar jobs and for work we're getting greedy yeah yeah yeah you're complimenting us because you haven't heard those episodes where we just ask will you hire us to write this or be in this or uh it's half the show three words pal work for scale we want to be the new cousin brucies is what i'm saying that's so funny because i i did a tweet which i should have deleted but i left it on and sometimes i get like why did i do that but i like tweeted at james cameron and i was like hey uh if you need a scientist put me in your movie or something like that and it got like five likes and wait that's great i would have liked that if i it's i think it's still up yeah okay let's

make all the listeners find the tree yes uh clifford nation yes clifford nation will you tweet the tweets on the day everyone will go to our twitter they'll follow you and then they'll retweet it and let's get this on this guy's radar yeah wow okay yeah let's do it well then let's also retweet one of your tweets that let's let's do one for you guys in the movie okay yeah let's do it well then let's also retweet one of your tweets that let's let's do one for you guys in the movie and then let's all get it worry about us later okay yeah that's right yeah we don't want to be greedy yeah here's what we'll try to get a number five we'll try to get you in three or four they're filming four now let us we'll we'll tweet at the Wolfman Jack estate and we'll say let us do be the new Wolfman Jack estate

we'll get the IP the intellectual property from Wolfman Jack and the voice and we're assuming that any like any deceased person has an estate and we're also assuming that any listener knows who Wolfman Jack is I picked one of the most relevant DJs of all time

graffiti right American graffiti that's true he lives on Jack is. I picked one of the most relevant DJs of all time. Graffiti, right? Graffiti. American graffiti. Yes. Yeah, yeah. That's true. He lives on in the- Yeah, yeah.

This guy, yeah. For the last 20 years, I heard he just like would, anytime you thought you heard his radio show, it was just like clips that they had recorded and they would just randomly play them and piece it together. Like he was barely, he was not showing up for shows or anything. This one's a rocker. Yeah, it didn't matter. People were like, oh. Get dancing to this one. I believe that's what this one's a rocker yeah it didn't matter people like dance into this one i believe that's what boy the current politics are not ideal right

this is wolfman jack and i am a ghost in the machine truly what he was so uh we'll do one of those two we'll do one of those um fair fair yeah yeah yeah but we'll look so i mean there's there's compliments coming your way too because we love your performance in this ride so much. I think we actually have to, maybe first bit of business, we have to thank you for giving us all the material for the Orlando live show that we did, where we essentially recited everything that you had to say on that day. I listened to it. I had a friend whose name is also scott oh and he was

he told me about that podcast and he's like oh you should listen to it because they're talking about you we just shout you out i think i did shout you out no no yeah i listened to it and then at one point i think it was you scott you're like uh before we start the the you know mild roast thing uh i just want to say i know david deanna for uh and like you know he's great and um you know i love him and okay now let's begin i'm glad that registered and i'm glad you i'm glad you nothing we didn't do anything in the aftermath that made you not want to come here oh that's important yeah i mean i messaged you right after that because like oh my god that's scott i remember you uh you know coming to the shows with for improv shows sometimes sometimes some shows sure um the significant other of the performer will come to a lot of the shows and yes and you were on team with aaron my wife uh who did improv

for a little while and super funny and uh and and so i saw you do you guys were on a team with Aaron, my wife, who did improv for a little while and was super funny. And so I saw you do, you guys were on a team together, so I saw you do improv a bunch of times. And I am not, I'm certainly not making this up or it's like revisionist history or anything. Aaron can attest that whatever the first time I saw the show you were in, I definitely afterwards was like, who is that guy? Like, you got that. You got that lift. Oh, thank you. Like, because you had this, you were just so like natural, but like, and like willing

to play kind of like odd energies that were not anything like what anybody else on stage was doing. You were just like on a wavelength that was just like, this is like naturally, this isn't just like thinking of funny stuff. This is like the guy being really funny. yeah i really did feel that yeah i just i was just you know acting like myself but thank you no no no yeah no it was a clue to hide in performance yeah yeah yeah but thank you um absolutely yeah i i forget what were we what was the question there or was there a question um you know maybe we're just talking about how

this all well this all came together yeah yeah uh this all came together a nice way and then yeah you you you followed me and then we wrote each other and it was like oh this is perfect because we had just begun this celebration of avatar feliz navidad and i've been thinking about it anyway ever since then i'm like there's got to be a way for for david to come on and this is perfect a full examination of of your performance of of dr stevens uh uh oh and and one more thing just before we dive in because i've also liked in recent interaction with you that we had to push this because i got the covid and you were giving me uh tips on this and telling me to explore getting the pax lovid which the uh then the insurance was like yeah you're fine you

don't need that you're so it doesn't sound like you're bad enough. You don't sound shitty enough on the phone, so we're not going to give you the... So I just said, get through it in a regular way. But I was glad I tried. You actually did make me... You helped me make the phone call, which I...

Something else was prescribed that was mildly helpful. That is not cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. Insurance. I hear that's happening a lot with Paxlovid they're trying to

if they have any they're hoarding it for the higher risk categories that might be it yeah I didn't have a good like stat I didn't lie about

I didn't play a character who needed it you should have lied with all the wheezing off and stuff yeah oh you also got it in a time when I think

a lot of people got it right after Thanksgiving that's a good point too when I got it I don't think they were just like no one's taking this right sure take it yeah it's funny how it goes in and out of people caring or thinking about it myself included i was like that old thing that what is this i love the 2020s so that there's no covet anymore and then there you go i got it but your Orlando show was so funny

I think it made me a little intimidated to come on because you guys were so funny and I'm glad there's no audience because

I think you guys would be you know then it's like you gotta compete like oh wow these guys are making all these

I wish honestly if you would come out in that audience you would have people would have climbed over us to get to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You would have lived in a bubble. Okay, we'll get to another avenue of this later, but I'll get you to the comment sections of things. Oh, I'm so curious. You're wondering. You've seen the dark side of people's opinions. Oh, God, what a tease. Well, okay, just to wrap up, what I was saying on the light side of people's opinions. Oh God, what a tease. Uh, well, okay. Just, just to wrap up what I was saying on the,

on the, the light side of it. Um, and how nice it's been talking to you. And I appreciate it getting that advice. And I liked that you gave me, uh, a little spell of advice and then finished it by saying,

but don't take it from me. I'm not a doctor. I just play one in Avatar flight of passage. And I was so delighted to read that email. And then in this, in this odd medical, because do you know, you came up another time on the show. Avatar Flight of Passage. And I was so delighted to read that email. That's beautiful. In this odd medical scene. I love it. Because do you know, you came up another time on the show in a brief window where we thought

the pandemic was bad enough that we were willing to do Twitch streams. We tried. It's a lot of work. Yes, that's what we found. Annoying. It's just a lot of work. One that we did was we did a competition an ncaa style brackets for that we called the fake doctor final four and dr stevens was a candidate in the we we made sure

that you were competing to be for the title of best fake theme park doctor um i don't i i don't now i i knew that i know that I threw The results of it Because the A Muppet won And I thought that was boring I might have been gunning For Dr. Stevens I don't recall

I'd have to look it up I don't remember Anything about Who won No Anyway you guys should know Before I am not attached to

The You know Dr. Stevens being like Loved or not loved Right right You guys can Like go full Full honesty It's It's like It's like I want to hear You know like Steven's being like loved or not loved. Right. Right. You guys can like go full, full honesty.

It's, it's, it's like, it's like, I want to hear, you know, like, like I want to hear the,

you know, the, the, like the honest. Right. Right. Okay. You could be nice too,

but also, also I'm in the mood for, I, I, I, nothing. I like, I like being roasted,

I guess. Oh, okay. Well, I didn't, I don't think any of us thought we were going to do an Isaac Chotner New Yorker takedown of you. What a reference.

Yeah, boy. Freaking Dennis Miller over here. Didn't think we were going to do an Isaac Chotner Chotner, babe. No, I think, well, when we were down there for that show and we were staying for a few days i think mike you had been to the pandora section of the park before yes i've i've been multiple times yes

and scott you and i that was our first time our first time yeah so yeah to a certain extent we we experienced your character and performance uh together i don't know here's what i'll say this is the closest you're gonna get to me uh as far as a roast and it's not anything Together I don't Here's what I'll say This is the closest You're going to get to me As far as a roast And it's not Anything that I don't think It's actually a roast

The Depending on if the ride Breaks down They make it seem like You don't know What's going on sometimes But that's the ride Making you seem like

You're like a scientist But you have no clue What's happening in the lab And that's the closest It ever gets Because some people Would be like Say you're a dad and you think that guy is actually helping one out of 50 dads might think that like oh this guy was that was i think that was joe roadie's idea he's a great idea he was like after was, like, after everything was shot, he was like, okay, now we're going to do one for when we don't know how long people have to wait.

And so he's like, so you're just going to be like, I'm going to come right back and, like, leave. Yeah. And then I go off stage or off set, and then I come back, like, 10 seconds later. But, you know, they edit it, so it looks like I came back a lot. They can do it as long as they want and he was just giggling he was just like this is gonna be so great when it actually happens in the park it happened i think one of the first times i did ever did the ride and it took forever they scanned us your character came on screen left screen i swear it happened like maybe twice where you left so again if the

one out of 50 dads who like thinks maybe you're like a ride operator but you're sort of like plant like maybe this is live you're like i don't know this guy doesn't know what he's doing the scientist is really something's broken he has he needs to fix this they're fitting it on you yes like i there's somewhere i'm trying to be and it's this guy's fault this dweeb won't let me pass this door yeah I'll take it. Just, you know. He keeps scanning me. There's the vibration thing.

Keeps going off. How many times does he need to scan me for germs? So it keeps doing everything? I believe once it scanned me twice at least. Oh, wow. But it was like, and then when you do it for the first time, you're like,

this is a little long. Because you don't know how long it's supposed to be. But yeah, it was definitely. It's long. Yeah. And of course, and I don't know if I'm getting ahead, the move your arms around a little, which is an iconic line. And I don't even say that facetiously or anything.

Truly, that's like if you're a nerd for this stuff, you're like, it's a good line. That's a memorable line. But that happened a lot In this stretch of like The ride Something was wrong With the ride They never tell you But something was wrong

Certainly when we were together We got a couple Move your arms around I think so I think that's what it is In general Is people feeling like That you

Like that they are They've been watching you For 15 minutes And that's probably where it And you're responsible I think even if people Aren't consciously thinking about it In the back of their mind They're like This guy's gotta hurry it up So that's probably where it is. And you're responsible. I think even if people aren't consciously thinking about it, in the back of their mind, they're like,

this guy's got to hurry it up. So that's what it is. Dr. Stevens is the fall guy for the long wait. They're like, we've got to pin that on something. We've got to be mad at somebody. There's not usually a specific person to do it to. All of the ride technicians, what are they called and they're uh players or cast members yeah all the cast members are like hey dr stevens it's his fault take it up with this guy

yeah throw a drink at the screen if you need to they should have done it like the mr potato head animatronic where they just you got to roast people in line and there were generic roasts so somebody like it would just be like, Hey, look at your hat. That's pretty silly, right? We got to scan that for germs.

I wish, I wish that's funny. I wish, I wish let's redo it. Let's redo it and add something like that in. Sure. And then of course you get royalties for that. Of course.

The same royalties I get. Right. I was going to say. So we're going to be rolling in money i didn't if i if i had to guess knowing anyone's history with appearing in these kinds of things that would have been my guess uh disney's kind of like carrot and here you go there's one thing once and goodbye yeah yeah yeah um well in a way they sort of had to pay me more because they messed up um oh yeah so like i did the shoot and then um i get a call like three weeks later and they're like oh we need you to come in to do some adr like we just want to add some stuff in so i go in into this like small adr

booth and i think it was in the where the imagineer uh offices are on wow i don't know where that's flowers flowers yeah flowers um and you know it was like 10 minutes they just needed me to add like one line or two lines of like safety like some sort of legal stuff right then i go home three four weeks later i get another call like David it's not your fault we need you to do ADR again I was like okay they're like no no you don't understand you have to do the whole thing wow so I had to dub the entire thing and this time we went to like a really sophisticated fancy ADR studio where there's like a huge theater screen like that's where they do all the like Disney's like the actual Disney movies

whoa yeah so I'm I'm there for like like eight to ten hours like dubbing my own voice and they want all the uhs and ums so it's like it's I think it sounds a little like not as authentic as it should have sounded like when you first acted it out. Because I'm just like trying to, you know, and um, you know, da, da, da, da, da. And then also they're like, can you make it a little more energetic? So it's like the voice probably doesn't match my face in some like intuitive way, you know? Like people watching right just get a little like something's off uh like that adds it makes like whereas it was kind of like maybe downbeat and naturalistic the first time and then you had to add this thing so the combo makes it

like just gives it this odd yeah what is up with this guy yeah super so it's super odd after that and uh but they but i got paid so much more yeah for all the multiple days oh that's awesome yeah and uh and yeah i mean overall i didn't get paid that much more yeah i wonder if i'm allowed i don't know if i'm allowed to say how much maybe i can give a uh it's like uh it's like uh closures it's like six months five months of rent maybe that's something better than five yeah yeah i know actually yeah yeah yeah yeah geez great okay i'm not a great place but like a decent place yeah solid yeah yeah i you know it kind of makes sense what you're like having to dub yourself uh you know adr stuff can be very difficult and stuff but i always saw it like watching it for the first couple times i was like oh this is a fun choice for this character because he's a scientist who probably does not spend all day in front of the camera so he's like you know who's not a polished broadcaster as referred to at the

beginning yeah you're a real you're a real guy you're not a camera an on-camera presence no he's intelligent he knows what he's talking about but maybe doesn't do presentations all the time i would say it's very charming yes yeah right right yeah no that that that that was what they were going for so you got that on the on the nose yeah they wanted they wanted me to be a little fumbling which which was easy because they like gave me all these new lines on the day of and then not only that but they wanted me to do it out of order and so they're like okay now do this part first and then do that part and i'm like oh well that's not the way i had just you know yeah learned it and they wouldn't give you a card i know they i had a i had a um a monitor sorry uh teleprompter which was i think an ipad

um that was like jigged up but it was here and the camera was right in front of me and they're like try not to look please look directly into the camera so i would do takes where i would look at it and they'd be like no no no look directly into the camera yeah wow yeah and what you're doing is all i think that's the craziest thing about it is that like you were responsible for introducing so many elements of this world. And you have to let people know about scanning for micro-parasites, and that Dr. Ogden restarted the Avatar program, and that we call them, they're Ikran, but we call them Banshees. It's so many things.

Those are not easy things to, individually, to keep in your head, let alone to shuffle around. Right, right. head, let alone to like shuffle around. Right, right. Yeah. It's not like, you know, it's not normal vernacular. Yeah. Yeah. Right.

Oh, which also, wait. So the one question is not that it would have helped because I've like, but I guess, okay. My question is, did you know Avatar at all before this? I watched the movie and I thought the first movie was i thought well it's jason depending on no let's just be honest here uh i thought it was good but like not super memorable so it's weird because when i watched it i was like oh this is a pretty good movie you know uh but for some reason it never stuck around in my mind as some other movies it didn't like stick

deep yeah yeah i don't know if that's because they're just using the my mind as some other movies it didn't like stick deep yeah yeah i don't know if that's because they're just using the same formulas as some other movies do like once they just don't surprise you and just keep the same formulas it might not land with you maybe yeah but uh but yeah i mean i knew the movie i knew that there was avatars and like you know you control them by getting plugged in somehow yeah so. So I knew the basics, but then it's not like you could have easily, Oh, this is the part where I talk about,

are we crying? Or as we call them, Banshee. It's like that part. I didn't remember from the movie. I don't even know if it's in the movie. Yeah. Yeah.

We've only, the, our weird avatar thing is kind of, it's bubbled up. Like, I felt like very early in the podcast, we started talking about it because of the land and the ride that you're part of. And then it like,

I think just by repetition and like, just that it kept coming up. Like, that's the only reason we all ended up kind of liking the whole thing is just like, we've just like stood in it so much. And now I am fond of these, like what happened?

We went around this, like merry go round so many times. Now I do know it. I do know the characters that and I do like them. But what a weird thing for a movie and a franchise to need. But what you have to do is just weirdly think about it for 13 years, and then it'll kick in, and you'll start to like it. Let it simmer on the stove for 13 years, and then it's right.

It's like a fine wine Or an aged whiskey Maybe That's what it is That's why I like it so much Right sure It's a fine wine Right

I One other thing I have to say Before we move on from that You having to repeat the whole thing We talked about this On the show a while back The ride Test Track Which is at Epcot

I don't know if you've ever been on it But it's a like you you it's a presented by general motors and you drive a car really fast and there is a there used to be this big intro with a bunch of jargon from like a scientist and that it was played by john michael higgins a great comedic actor who i got to work with once and of course i'm like oh what's up with that ride And this whole story was, I did the whole thing. I had to say all this complicated stuff and it was big,

long takes and it was really hard to do. And then a couple of weeks went by and they said, I need to do ADR. And I went in and it looks to just a few lines. No, no, no. The entire thing,

the exact thing that happened to you. I'm shocked that this you're telling this story when this is the exactly what happened on this other ride years ago. Oh my gosh. We need to have a therapy group for those pre-show Disney World shoots. You know what you should do? There's a band of all actors on Tix, called the Band from TV, with Greg Grunberg, and he plays drums. You should have a band with all the other guys and

girls and everybody in the intro video. Patrick Warburton, Gary Sinise. I think these people are all musicians by the way. Yes. I've been working on my violin so maybe I can work that in or maybe I'll do percussions. Do you play anything? I mean

no. I did violin in elementary school and you know i just i just uh we just had a daughter and so i'm like oh i should probably get into some music and so i started like i bought like the cheapest violin bad idea uh because it doesn't sound that great and then um you know i started like practicing a little bit and uh um doesn't sound good so okay yeah you thought you could do lullabies and yeah like dave matthews band songs and stuff maybe yeah i should i should learn it sounds a little yeah i don't twinkle twinkle little stars at my level you know that's nice that's good yeah that's something um i guess one question to ask is uh to go back to the beginning how are the

the basic stuff like how did you come to be part of this to begin with oh okay yeah um so i auditioned through actors access which is like a casting website so it's basically it was basically not a cattle call where like anyone can, but it was an open submission. So anyone could submit. You didn't have to have an agent. And it was listed as theme park workshop. So because of this podcast, I went back and reread the email. And it had asked us to dress comfortably, don't wear any lab stuff because we'll provide it for you and be prepared to do improv and i remember when i went there it's like they didn't care about the

lines they just wanted you to just sort of workshop with them oh yeah and so the audition was like a workshop where you just for 10 minutes you just sort of did all the you know different variations of of the of the audition with them and then what are you talking about in there because it's not avatar stuff i wouldn't imagine yeah it was it was just like it was basically everything except avatar so like the micro parasites oh yeah or like uh yeah you guys you all have them i think that was part of the audition it's just like you guys all have them but don't worry but you do have them. And then, you know, it's just like I just started talking about whatever, you know. Oh, they go through photosynthesis, which is, you know, when the sun creates,

when they're able to produce energy using the sun. Well, you don't need to know that. You just need to know you're safe. You know, it's just improv. And then I didn't hear anything for like two months and then i get a call from uh from my agent i think it was my agent it was probably an email and they just said they want you to audition again for a grad student this time it was called grad student yeah and then i went in and this time they wanted you to get all the words right and just did it and then

same script essentially and uh and that was it and then didn't hear again from them for like a month and then they just called and said you know we want you to play this character and i didn't know it was for disney i was trying to figure out which theme park it was for i was thinking maybe you know universal or like knott's berry farm but i for some reason i didn't think disney because i couldn't think of any disney characters right that would fit like this sort of scientist guy oh sure you know which i mean then it isn't non-disney at the time yeah yeah oh weird wow wow what a weird i love the like successfully getting through the layers of like a mysterious project that has to be a pretty cool thing as an actor to do yeah i mean it's always good when they want you to do

something uh yeah um but yeah and then and then i went to do the shoot no no you know there was a lot of prep for it because they wanted to do the wardrobe. And I went into the Imagineering Studios, the one on Flowers. Yeah, yeah. Flowers, Flower. Flower Street. Flower Street. And it's like that place is like a dream world because everyone there is so passionate, you can tell, about their job.

And they're so meticulous and specific with how they want things done and but they're also open to like suggestions from each other so it's very collaborative and uh i also remember there was like a a starbucks there they kept asking me like do you want star do you want something from starbucks there's like a starbucks inside the uh the the facility and everything's free from that starbucks for everyone so it's like a starbucks inside the uh the the facility and everything's free from that starbucks for everyone so it's like everything's on your tab on their tab but i don't drink coffee or anything so i just come in no i don't need it and they kept going but it's free it's like anything you want it's free

i gotta make something up no no muffin no offer a muffin no no muffin no yeah anything you wanted anything from a Starbucks was there for you to take for free for everyone it wasn't just me

it was like free for all the workers a workplace where everybody's doing like insane next level stuff and they're all excited to be there

and Starbucks is free yeah this is great to hear about would you guys ever want to do stuff an imagineer type job we've only begged on the show uh many times i'd see if i could fit it in it's a weird genuinely i'm always like well what what where do i fit into that because none of us are engineers the second half of the word, we can imagine, but the geneering part

is where it gets tougher for me. And I have no literal art skill. When you think about the level of, like a Joe Rohde, we'll talk about who I'm sure, if his whole career ended at just, he's an incredible matte painter or mural painter,

he was good enough to be that alone. So I think having the specific skill sets is probably the toughest thing. Two friends of ours. I think we can say, right. Cause it was tweeted about two friends of ours wrote a ride that's coming soon to universal. So like that aspect where it's something that's like the mini,

we're talking about van Robuchon, Evan Susser wrote the minions, right. We say, yeah, villain con. So Evan and van, you've heard them on the show

friends that show a ride amazing pretty crazy yeah so like in that like they wrote a lot of i think i don't know if i'm gonna get jokes and stuff and like set up so they're not crunching numbers or anything so like in that aspect i believe yeah this would this would be great now do i also think i could maybe conceptualize a new ride? Yes, I do think that. But I'm just saying, I think from like, at least from a standpoint of like, oh, if not to Barry Farm, it's some like simple little thing where we could write some fun copy

and come up with a scenario. Yeah, I would love anything like that as a dream. Yeah, because you already pitched some good stuff here for the Avatar ride. That making fun of thing would have been great. Roasting, Dr. Stevens roast. Well, no, no wait i've just thought of what it could be it's like hang on we have to scan for something an ugly hat you have one great perfect there oh yeah these are good auditions for that job yeah yeah so we're trying to illustrate it i've just been to Specsavers and upgraded my lenses to extra thin and light with 50% off.

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the dishwasher awesome exclusions apply see spec savers.ca for details offer ends soon um well and the specific thing that you got to do which is like i've always been obsessed with is like somebody being in the video that plays all day every day somewhere something that happened on this show once was that i found an opening somehow successfully to film a video where i was an astronaut that played in a fry's electronics in anaheim for two days before it closed and this was me trying to do what you got to do i was just like if i could get any we just for two days that's great that's a dream come true something where like i'm a guy and i'm telling you rules about something and make sure

you press the button and it was like fake it was like a make-a-wish thing they made up for me but it was still it was like the coolest thing ever so what you got to do this thing where like you're playing into infinity forever it's it's uh it's it's so impressive that i'm uh oh very impressive well thanks yeah well so you so you were so was it like a commercial for fries electronic where into infinity forever it's it's uh it's it's so impressive that i'm uh oh very impressive well thanks yeah well so you so you were so was it like a commercial for fries electronic where you were an astronaut that was like so confusing by this tv or something or there might be a whole there's fries electronics things behind you in here i went to a fry i really like fries electronics in general because they had all these great themes it was a themed electronics store And the one in Anaheim was space themed.

And I went into it one day and there was a video that played where a guy is like, we're about to launch and you need to press the red button to make sure that we have a successful launch. A really mini version of what you did for real. And I was like, why is this playing only here in this one store? That's so weird. Maybe this is my chance. There's less red tape i don't have to go through i don't have to do the workshops and all the stuff you had to jump through i'm not a real actor so i don't have to prove that i'm a real actor so somehow we got a hold of fry's

people and they were like yeah the store's closing anyway it's fine put it in there and they played it for a weekend before it was this all the listeners know about this already wow so you made it independently and then gave it to them to play we tweeted it we tweeted it out and then our listeners were like this maybe shows the this is the way we can maybe help you out and try to get you in an Avatar film

that our listeners were like fries you gotta see this boy fries this video is great and then it genuinely did make it to somebody deep in the fries i don't think i've even said the whole i can't say everything about this but it had to go all the way up the flagpole it was yeah it actually did and that's it all i'm at liberty to say but somebody very powerful had to go all right why not that's great yeah yeah yeah maybe we could do a scientist spec thing together and to get us on avatar yeah let's try that oh my god

we do our own workshop yeah yeah these guys improvise i'll try to fake my way through it you'll be fine i'll do it i'll just repeat all my astronaut stuff maybe if we just put our like make it and we record it on a vhs we slip it to a cast member on the ride and one day for some reason there's four scientists in their lab that would be hilarious for germs yeah that would be great hang on i have to consult with uh dr robinson and dr miller dr and dr jones and now it's but that's fine it's a bumbling set of four scientists i do like this disney creative campus locked down today after a mysterious vhs dropped at the mail drop were there secret messages in it was it a bomb was it a threat vhs it's like we don't know what's in

it because we don't have a vcr we don't know how to play there's no way to find out where the technology is not here one of the three places in the valley where we could play this vhs thanks to being the scott gardener's house largest media company um so you all right so you do get through all the the layers of this um and you wait okay first of all it's like it's prep and it's shoot you're out you're in the engineering campus that's all a dream that's crazy um and then and then the shoot what's the what's the shoot like oh the shoot was great it was um they they uh they rented out a sound stage in north hollywood or sun valley area um Oh, yeah. Yeah. And, you know, they set up the stages.

They had Dr. Ogden's stage. Wow. And the woman that plays her was great. She was also in a bunch of other stuff. I think maybe just as her voice. Oh, okay. Yeah, I forget what else she's in. But she was sort of like, you know,

like sort of like been around the block, like, oh, yeah, this is your first uh disney shoot wow really no no no no no no no in a good way in a good way but it was like i was like oh yeah this is my first wow she's showing you the road she's like oh i got stories yeah she's like i'm also in uh i forget some other other ride she does the voice for. Do we know this? We don't know this. I feel like, God, it sounds familiar.

Or do we? Yeah. I mean, I've forgotten stuff, but that's interesting. Maybe it's in Disneyland where she does the voice. See if I can figure it out. Yeah. It's possible we did a whole episode on this and I forgot. Yeah, yeah, happens a lot.

A whole lot of episodes. They're not the easiest thing to find credits for attractions, you know? Yeah, yeah, that's true um but that's cool well because dr ogden is your is your mentor and dr steven now that we know specifically dr stevens is a grad student so who may be actually that's a question do you have it in your head that maybe you like looked up to dr ogden yeah yeah yeah that was that was part of it like she's someone I looked up to, and they really wanted me to keep, you know, saying her name like I look up to her. I don't know if it comes through that I keep saying Dr. Ogden.

Oh, we noticed. That's one of the funniest that you're in this room for so long, and we are getting all this information and about worlds and cultures, and you're going to fly, but then within that, you need to know that Dr. Ogden is great. Dr. Ogden wrote a book. Dr. Ogden restarted the program. So that's funny.

It seemed like it was funny to do, to read all that. Yeah, it's coming back to me now. They're just like, you really look up to Dr. Ogden. Dr. Ogden. Okay. We have talked about it before. They really like Dr. Ogden do you think that

Dr. Stevens got ever got to meet Dr. Ogden or was there a distance was it somebody you like read in grad school or like did you have a relationship or did she blow you off in the office do you have any sense

of further mythology oh you mean like the office do you have any sense of further mythology oh you mean like the backstory of dr stevens yeah yeah okay yeah coming from me and how i uh played it it was yes we had like training back in the home base wherever that is oh yeah and then i got shipped to like antarctica like some sort of remote station where right i'm just sort of explaining things to people and i'm like all alone and so that's why it's like oh i haven't talked to people in a long time okay so this is why i'm sort of you know talking to people like this because i'm just isolated and it's just you know uh oh people yeah i know how to talk to you um yeah so this is what you do um this is what you you were playing the

feeling that all of everyone had coming out of the pandemic like yes i know how to be at a party i can talk how have you how is your life like we were all everyone was like dr stevens after all that oh yeah after the pandemic everyone was yeah a lot was, yeah, a lot of strange behaviors. Yeah, a lot of strange behaviors. Sure, yeah. Yeah, the first party, genuinely, I went to, the first half hour, I'm like, are you a maniac? What are you, have you not said sentences in your life? Like, every lights are shining.

I'm like, ah, I'm recoiling. I want to go in a cave. They made a funny SNL sketch about this I don't know if you guys saw the there was like an SNL sketch video about I think so

yeah it was it was funny not all their stuff is great but this one was sorry I mean I love you SNL

yeah yeah no no of course we all yeah of course but some of this stuff is you know you do it every week so it's hard

yeah yeah it's gonna be hits and misses of course it's the history of the show. Say, if they're batting 250, then that's a success. You only remember the good stuff from the compilations. We grew up with in high school. Go back.

That was your favorite. That was your favorite cast. The actress, Dr. Ogden, her name is, at the top of the page, Alison Blanchard. And she was the,'s it says luggage scan computer in star tours oh so does that mean uh that's not the there's the patrick warburton robot but then there's is it like midway through the line it's so the yeah there's some voices checking in there's the x-ray effect yeah with the robot but i can't remember if that how audible those lines are so that might be something she did yeah yeah there before you uh well you get getting into that i guess that's

that's a huge question probably a lot of people have is like the awkwardness that was completely a designed that is a that was that was what they wanted that's a choice it's what you were you were going for um yeah yeah i mean if you if you judge my baseline as this and then see how far away dr stevens is i mean it's sort of a little bit you know it's like always part of you how you are so yeah i mean it's it's just like an extension of that i just played on it a little more plus the the dubbing, you know, made it extra awkward probably. Something awkward. Yeah, or maybe not. I don't know.

Maybe the dubbing didn't make it awkward. It's just in my mind. It's just like, that's not my voice. Like, this doesn't match. But they're just like, no, no, it's perfect. Yeah. Yeah, the weird thing must be like the rhythm of saying the ums. Like having to like remember, like you don't know your own vocal

patterns that well to like no no no it was a quarter of a second before the um not a half second yeah it's i mean it's like doing uh karaoke with oh yeah because the words are there and there's like a little bar that you have to like try to match and it's just is that right there's something visual yeah yeah oh wow yeah at these places, they try to give you all the help you can. There's a beep and then there's this line going through of where the words are, where you should say them, and then the words are underneath and it's just like karaoke, basically, with your own... Interesting.

I wonder if this is common with all these ride videos for some weird reason. Yeah. What is the, why do they need the dubbing? Timing wise or something? Like, is it like, did they like speed it up a half second or something or a quarter of a second and then like, you know, come in and do it a little faster? I wonder why that might be common. I mean, my theory is just that they don't shoot a lot of stuff.

Like Imagineers do a lot of stuff, but one of the things they don't do is film production. They don't hire a sound guy. Maybe they don't hire any sound guy. They don't know a good guy. They need a good guy. Where's the guy holding the stick thing? Oh, we didn't have him.

Again? We did it again? We have no coverage? We track all over again rich guy by a zoom recorder yeah so who's making the call this time it's like i'll call the actor you get it you get it in 15 years when this happens again oh back to the imagineering thing i didn't see anyone there that looked like an engineer that like builds things they were they were all like artistic right so i think it's a lot in the name like sure just add the engineer so so you guys have a lot of potential posts to fill look i direct i've directed for television i would love i've also i've made ride videos for rides that

don't exist i've done every possible yeah every possible audition for this kind of thing. And then it's, and now I'm hearing that they can't, I've, I've done things with a sound person. I know how to get the sound right. I can record sound. That's right.

I sound engineer this podcast. That's where, what am I talking about? You do it all the time. You've logged kidding me. Thousands of hours. I guess what I'm auditioning for is to run sound on ride videos. You'd love it though.

I know you'd like to go higher than that, but when you, you to be there to watch every raw take of every video, I'll say this. The sound person is always the most interesting person on set. They're just always for some reason. Like I'm like, this person's lived the life.

Like, like there's something about people that are obsessed with sound that makes them more interesting. I know that seems vague, but it's truly, I don't have a specific type of person I'm talking about. It's just always, there's somebody who's hyper-focused on sound and I'm always like, oh, okay, sound. This is the sound person is my. I'm going to agree with you. And I think there's also just in the way they like, you see them working with equipment or like hooking up your mic or someone else's mic it

it's that kind of quiet confidence that like if you if you have a regular mechanic and they just start doing stuff without looking at it oh yeah it's interesting i don't know why that is but the guy who did all the sound for everything at funny or die was the used to be the drummer for ingve malmsteen. Perfect. So he's in like old, like, you know, crazy European hair metal videos in the early nineties.

So that's what you're after. Yes. Like is what I'm after. This guy must have a story. Oh yeah. That's a good one. Um, but anyway, uh,

but back to the shoot, I, I'm sure like what, what other stuff about, well, I was asking about like the, the, the awkwardness and the case,

you know, this, I think maybe has to be brought up. A phrase that has not been said yet in this episode. And that phrase is, you know what I'm going for. Fly. And this clearly is the, I think there's a couple iconic things that you say in this. But that takes the cake.

And you've probably, I imagine this has come back to you in a it's on t public people have made shirts fan shirts and yeah i've got friends send me links to these shirts yeah is that legal can they do that technically yeah i don't know though it's if it's not oh i guess i guess if it's like that's a phrase in the world you can say a fly yeah as long as it's not like a picture of an acron on it yeah is there i wonder if i should so maybe i should do and a shirt or something that sounds legal i think so yeah i think you're fine on that and we know look that for a long time at least until this new movie the avatar font papyrus and that's just free on every computer so you can use papyrus without a problem hey we'll we'll retweet it yeah yeah of course yeah i mean or maybe and uh podcast the ride shirts

we'll split it we'll split the uh revenue uh no but but yeah yeah it's it's a it's a it's a it was i guess it was improvised but but come on. It's just a line. It's not really like, you know. It was improvised, though. I don't know. That's pretty big. I mean, I just sort of rephrased the line. I forget what it was.

Was it just Anne Fly and I added uh? Or was it, maybe that's it. Maybe that was it. You probably don't remember super well because you did not expect that to be the thing that is latched on to hey i i just remember whatever the line was before that i started saying and i'll fly and and uh i think joe rody was like keep that keep that you know he's like i love that yeah well because we're full in chris farley show mode right now yes i know absolutely well i didn't know who joe rody was i just knew he was like the passionate guy on set with like yeah like a lot of stuff on his ears and like i was like oh this guy's different and he's really into everything because there was like three directors

there was joe rody there was like some guy from Disney, and then there was like another guy from Disney, but from different departments. I don't know if one of them's like corporate Disney and one was like theme park Disney. And then it's like Joe Rohde is like the creative guy that's like trying to push for the creative ideas. Right. So there's like three voices,

you know, do this, do this, do this, coming up to me each time. Yeah. Is that confusing? It's very confusing.

Yeah. You have to like figure out who's the guy in charge. It's sort of like commercials. You guys have done commercials where it's like, you're like, who's the guy in charge? Yes. I just listened to whoever,

whoever last told me what to do. Anyone can tell you anything. I'll do it. Yeah. It doesn't matter. The last person to tell you something you're like got it uh yeah tell me like go on the camera and say these and i go like this yeah yeah in that case sometimes the most unnerving thing is when the director is very chill and laid back and just

like i'll just try it a few ways well we'll record it off whatever and you're like oh but what is what are the people from hostess i have to say there's about a dozen of them by the way jason i saw your hulu you your hulu commercial it's so good oh yeah it's like actually pretty funny you know and you're like perfect in there you're just like oh what about plus uh hulu plus yeah that was one where it's like everyone was an improv uh train performer and actor and everyone was very chill and uh it was a really nice time yeah so i don't know if you're allowed to talk about this we can edit it out right yeah sure okay yeah so so everyone did you guys all improvise that together like with your pitches of like hulu i they did a lot of alts like everyone tossed out a bunch so they had a bunch to go and

then there was like 15 second version of the spot 30 second version uh try this ending okay try this ending um there is a bunch of endings where it is uh said that i am the main guy's nephew uh and everyone got gets mad at me because they didn't know i was a nepotism hire the the main guy being the guys like give me ideas the the the ringleader guy yeah who also we we later learned that like um uh we were talking about ucb and stuff and he he brought up our friend zacharino who's been on the show before. And he's like, oh, I performed his wedding. And I was like, I was at that wedding.

So we were in the same place before. Oh, wow. Wow. So mild nepotism. Mild. Yeah, so a few degrees of separation. That's a hell of a back story. They're not clear to the Hulu ad viewers no now you know

yeah you know all the secrets of dr stevens and of uh yeah i don't know if you're allowed to because do you always sign all this stuff but it's like who cares you know but also i don't want to give you money back what i want to say about the the fly thing well first of all because roadie i feel like has helped make it a thing because you retweeted something that there was like a poll of you can all right here's three sort of like what we did three like pre-ride videos or doctor people and you can only keep one and and roadie himself said has to be the uh fly guy and which i love seeing because his typical i guess is you experience you met the man you worked with the man he his his typical mode seems to be like flowery language big eloquent paragraphs so seeing him say something

as blunt as the uh fly guy i thought was kind of charmingly off-brand. Yeah. And he must have enjoyed getting the props from him for that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He was the most supportive person on set. He made me feel really confident. Because it was the opposite of what you're saying, where the director doesn't say anything. He was just saying, I love.

He would be like, Dr. Ogden is like a straight, like not straight, you know um uh traditional sort of type of character like a sort of traditional high status character that you get at the parks and he's like and then this character is just sort of you know all over the place it's like i love it i love it it's gonna it's gonna blow their minds because he wanted to blow he wanted people to be like you know this isn't normal disney stuff that that's what he was saying and like the whole time i'm like so you're saying i'm not doing like it's not polished like and you like it you know it's like

okay all right but but he was like he was just you know very encouraging geez yeah huh so he like he kind of like caught how you were generally doing it and said keep going further in that direction and you like you sort of like found this mode for it together right right that's pretty cool yeah he also do you know that he did this big instagram post about dr stevens and why it's important to the fabric of the ride have you come across this i i got tagged i think like i yeah yeah i i think i remember reading it what it was positive right it was it was very positive and we've we've talked on the show a lot about joe roadie's post as i was saying he'd like some little thing some like uh you know a frame of a picture a detail up on the roof he will he let

here is a long long rationale for why this is important yeah that it is the way that it is and this i don't i can't i don't want to read the entire thing but it's a big breakdown specifically of uh but then it gets into other stuff about about your performance let me just let me do some of it uh how i love that the word uh is so pivotal to the characterization and plot that it must be translated for people who cannot hear meaning that it's in the captions uh it's in the closed captions on the ride and that a distorted fisheye lens view of an ill-shaven man who seems unsure of what to say is the preamble to a major theme park experience.

At Animal Kingdom, we're always trying to place our design in that right place where you're not quite sure is this really real? Is it supposed to be real, but it's not real? Is this a mistake and I'm not supposed to be seeing it? It ties into his greater Animal Kingdom feelings about well when is it contrived and when is it just nature being nature and how do we trick you like he's including your beard the choice of your facial hair in like in

the fabric of why the the ride is successful yeah i mean that was their choice they you know they told me to come in ill-shaven wow yeah wow ill-shaven ill-shaven it was on the on the notes before the before was that literally no no it wasn't that i was just they said to come in you know with some stubble i think sure maybe was the word that's a little bit way out a regular person says ill-shaven it's very judgmental that's the way a regular person says it ill shaving it's very judgmental that was the only the barest roasting of you on this episode is the the implication that you were not good at shaving yeah yeah but it was a choice yeah it was yeah because you know you always go on set with like a razor and like you know whatever because they're always like uh keep it or let's shave it or maybe just a mustache i've never done a mustache it or maybe just a mustache i've never done

a mustache maybe i should do a mustache i've never done a mustache it'd be a tie you'll probably get something specifically because of the at least one thing we want that mustache guy yeah jason's mustache is pretty good oh thanks yeah and you're yours well yours is a full beard i got a full beard yeah jason i mean jason sort of i guess jason has a goatee-ish beard. During lockdown era, I would shave just the mustache. Just as when you would come up with ways to amuse yourself, I was like,

I'm going to try having a mustache for a while. And I remember Mike, we got on a Zoom once, and he went, well, we'll talk about it. That's what Mike said. Yeah, we were recording. And he's like, well. And then we never did it never came up

I was like oh he's gonna make this the first I may have thought like oh wow look how different it is and then as soon as we started I go no it's good and that's how you've always had it like I may have just absorbed it well I think I had shaved all the rest of the beard off except a mustache I just absorbed it i well i think i had shaved all the rest of the beard off except

a mustache i just accepted it i mean the history jason you've ended up having to be on edge probably in every episode of i have done something two percent different surely this will take up 15 you're never gonna believe how they say this word in southeast pennsylvania and we're gonna talk about it 10 of the podcast is just saying what word did you say it really is i feel like if i'd ever met anyone from that area it would never come up it's just it's always unfamiliar to me it's all new to me it bleeds into my real life because jane jane has started calling out when i say milk and they're saying is it more of a milk it's it's more okay like yeah it kind of sounds like m-e-l-k right she's like milk milk you repeat and you can't think yeah what's the simpsons up and at them oh yeah oh yeah the goggles do nothing or something does yeah he's getting drained by goggles they do

nothing i was thinking about a simpsons thing in relation to all that you being getting this thing that you improvised becoming a he's this guy he's the fly guy this is similar to bart being the i didn't do it guy right is it weird in any context to be like uh to have that phrase in your head like the something guy uh you know it's not weird to me because the only way i hear about is if i have to do an active search online i have to do like and uh fly in quotations and then and then i can start but like i would not have known about any of this unless like friends send me links right or so it's not like something i think about but when i do go and read the the stuff uh yeah sometimes it's like there's like you guys are making me feel good but i've i've gone and

read the comments sometimes oh and there's like a lot of you know there's some you guys are making me feel good but i've i've gone and read the comments sometimes and there's like a lot of you know there's some people that uh prefer dr stevens be uh removed and oh no what no never yeah and like sometimes it's you it's usually i'm you know my weaker stages of time to time, we become weak. And it's usually late at night. And you're just like, oh, I haven't Googled myself in a while. And you just do a little Google. And then you're like, oh, this didn't bother me that much.

I can go further. And you start looking further and further. And then it starts hurting your feelings a little bit um and to the point where you're like you start clicking on their profile and like trying to see like whether their comment is of value you know it's like oh well they only have 13 followers this comment didn't count um uh it's all negative i shouldn't be doing it and but but now i've gotten better at it where it's like i'm i'm okay it's like it doesn't't be doing it and but but now i've gotten better at it where it's like i'm i'm okay it's like it doesn't hurt my feelings anymore as much yeah we'll see then

then what happens i start digging more and more until i find one that that hits uh like you need to kind of like get the little zap like you almost like i just want to i don't know i gotta feel it a tiny bit and then i'll lay off uh i i remember once i i clicked on some guy and it's the guy that co-wrote the pixel movie have you remember that movie pixel yeah yeah it's with adam sandler yeah yeah the guy hates the pre-show flight of passage guy dr stevens yeah he hates him and it's and it's like i'm just like why why is this guy like why does he care about it so much that he has to like tweet i guess he's like a super disney fan and like it's it's messing with his vision of the way disney should be but um we gotta find this comment yeah it's uh oh i know these i know

both of these names there's two writers it's like the younger writer guy there's there's two writers one of them i've heard of this person okay okay yeah but then but then i started looking up dirt on him and then i'm like i'm like okay so you're gonna diss me let me go see some sure and then i looked up i was like oh pixel won a razzie a razzie is an award for the worst movie yeah i was gonna say you didn't have to go very far to get to the phrase co-writer of pixels it's right in there isn't it yeah come on writer of pixels yeah so it's like i have to find something to like to level off the that that's my yeah unhealthy therapy of of that so do you find enough positive or just like for being having fun with it that it feels better than this is this this whole thing for you has been more fun than than not you know the positive always comes in person like i went to um a uh uh give the kids a village is a non-profit

oh right yeah give kids the world give the kids the world okay yes and so they they had this big convention where they wanted to you know fly in all of these disney uh persons like the i think it was the voice of aladdin or maybe it's the voice of little mermaid you know all of these different disney uh people notable performers notable performers thank you you're the professional you know how to how to extract what i'm trying to say uh and and uh one of the and uh see i guess i just do it normally um one of the one of the panels were the theme park um theme park theme park specific yeah yeah and so i went there with and i don't i don't really go to disneyland or disney world so i don't really know oh it's interesting yeah yeah yeah but there was like the woman from the haunted mansion and then there was the fig the fig puppet fig figment

figment the dragon yeah yeah he was super nice oh he because so it's like so so i'm going and i'm and i was talking i was like so what okay i didn't even finish the story um ah sorry guys no no so so give the kids the world oh yeah yeah i've created this um convention where all the money goes to their foundation to help the kids that they help and so you know i went out there and then the people that actually saw the panel were very loving and gave a lot of praise. So I guess in real life, the interactions I got were all positive.

But you know how the internet and Twitter and all that stuff is. Do you guys ever read bad comments about the podcast, The Ride? If there were. Not if I get up in front of you. No, we don't get fixated on every bad thing that gets said. Any mild criticism.

Well, two things. I feel like I've had a couple reactions. One, it's every now and then you just double check, yeah, the other person's post. And sometimes you go like, oh, they're insane're insane nice don't have to worry about this and then the other is like they hone in on something so particular so odd and then it's just like i never i'm not insecure about this because it never would have occurred to me to even be remotely insecure about this so yeah yeah fair enough and it's if you don't relate to it at all and who care yeah it's tougher if it's something you you care about or something

i um i mean you know what's a a a scarring moment in podcast is history for me that almost got me off of doing podcast it almost made me go i don't like doing podcasts before we started doing this podcast with many many episodes when episodes. When I was on, I was on the show dough boys, which is a podcast about chain restaurants. I was a guest on it and I felt comfortable when it started, but then when it began and I was like, wait,

I've never really been on a podcast. Have I? Oh, I'm sure it'll be fine. The next day, a comment or somebody tags me on Twitter and says, say, um,

and like more motherfucker. Just in my replies. Oh, man. And it truly made me like, well, I will stay out of that game forever. And A, I'm so glad I didn't. But to bring it back to your performance and like you told us this stuff about being sounding like slick and broadcasters. I don't feel that way at all. And I like that you did this like non-polished performance with an iconic uh in it.

As somebody who does say it from time to time, but who still wants to try to be funny in front of a microphone. It's nice to have an uh celebrated for people to like it a lot. Yeah, for sure. I'll take that. Thank you. It's a nice moment for the unpolished in general. And your character is an unpolished hero i guess oh yeah standing up for all the unpolished having an impressive job it's interesting it's interesting because again i i truly mean it like when yeah because you felt it like meeting theme park fans who are

some of the most rabid fans of anything but i just feel like you should be like doing the con the convention circuit oh right i don't know i don't i think i the way i think of it is like i'm only like recognizable in orlando like in that area certainly maybe those specific conventions but like there's anaheim wonder con stuff like that i don't know i don't know maybe i'll feel like people we know around everybody listens to the show would be so psyched yes that's absolutely absolutely true i think people are going to be very excited to hear you on the show yeah yeah i hope so i hope uh i hope i hope they there's another tweet that i got so i get tagged on stuff yeah so then i i look at it one of them was there's like three pictures of different disney uh scientists yeah one of them is putty from yeah yeah yeah and then one of them is uh this other person that i don't know and then

there's me and then it was like mary f kill and let me tell you dr stevens was killed like 99 percent of the time so you know um i haven't seen the other people i mean the putty is like you know he's looked he's pretty good looking i guess uh traditionally do you think they're marrying putty or they're fucking putty i don't because i don't know his like character's name i'm i'm thinking there doesn't have a name i don't know yeah maybe but then why isn't if it's wallace langham in the ride dinosaur which is my guess i think it was dr seeker i believe doctor that's a crazy choice dr seeker is a slime ball that's not somebody that's who you kill you would be the least popular dr stevens has no ill intention for anybody. You're a guy doing your job.

I think you're a Mary. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I think you have sex with Putty. We're not giving you. I don't know. You can have a fun weekend with Dr. Seeker. Sleazy in Vegas.

That's, I guess, what people are thinking, maybe. Yes, but I don't know. Putty's more of the, like, you have a, I'm just saying Putty now, as if he's the character. This is tough. This is a tough choice And when it's a group of three That's what we are Don't tag me I'm effing the pilot

Or whatever the hell He's a pilot right Effing unnamed pilot Effing unnamed Soaring pilot And I'm marrying Dr. Stevens That's very nice I think that's the universally correct choice Unnamed Soren pilot. And I'm marrying Dr. Stevens. That's very nice.

I think that's the universally correct choice. I think so. I completely agree. There's another tweet that I don't think is a mean tweet. I don't think I'll offend you by saying this, but I was curious anybody's Dr. Stevens tweets. And here's one from Just Mateo a couple years ago. Here's what you think of this. I've seen arguments over which Disney character

Is a Republican or Democrat But I think we can all agree that Dr. Stevens from the Flight of Passage pre-show Forgot to register to vote Oh yeah I think Dr. Stevens is like Yeah he's Not a voter

He's got too much stuff on his mind yeah you're out of the country well you know now an absentee first of all with mail-in ballots i think i think he's a mail-in he's a mail-in guy he has he's an independent mail-in guy but do you maybe like forget because you're busy like because the way that like you said the way the camera you go oh right i have to talk on camera maybe you're also like i got these lab results to go through oh wait shit oh the ballot when was that two months ago crap yeah makes sense yeah i mean i don't know if you guys uh go political here but i think uh dr stevens is um not for you know i'm not going to do it. I'm so curious. I was like,

where's the line? No, I'm not going to. It's just, you can kiss her and keep it to yourself. Dr. Stevens, you don't want to reveal all the, all the recesses of Dr.

Stevens. Sorry. Yeah. Um, but he let, but if Dr. Ogden switched into politics, uh,

and ran for office, you know, he's supporting Dr. Ogden that much. We know. Yeah, probably. I mean, governor Og governor ogden yeah i guess so yeah i'm trying what else to ask here i mean we've covered a lot of ground for sure i had something i was wondering because i i had heard um someone who did music for a part of universal once and they were like well i should really get

down there one of these days like uh i should see the spider-man ride my kids are teenagers would they like it and the i i'm listening to this interview i'm like yeah man i think your teenagers would like the spider-man ride you were part of? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Have you been to Pandora? Have you ridden? Have you seen yourself? Oh, right. Oh, yes. Okay.

This is a little story, which I've never told. Oh, boy. Okay. So, when I went to that convention, that was the first time I went to Orlando. Yeah, yeah. And it's not in Disney World. It's just in one of these hotels nearby. It might have been a Disney World hotel that they rented.

And I had never been to the ride. And I didn't have a ticket because Disney never offered. Which is bizarre. A little wild. So this was a nonprofit-profit organization giving me flying me to orlando and uh the host of the panel i started talking to him his name was mark uh mark daniel i believe um and i might be getting his last name wrong uh and he said i told him i'd never been on the ride he and he was like flabbergasted like what you've never been on the right we got to go right now and it's like 4 p.m Orlando time I had flown in on red on a red

eye and woke up at like noon like an hour before the so it's like I I was very uh out of it and he goes we got to get you to the ride and I'm like okay let's do it and so he had a season pass, but he had to go to like a different park to get checked in. And then he could go to any park. This is recent. So it's all like Disney World is insane now. You can't park up. Yeah, this was like last year. And so I go into, is it Animal Kingdom?

It's Animal Kingdom. We go into Animal Kingdom. We walk in and it's like almost closing time and there's no line so we just walk through the whole thing like the whole there's no line for avatar flight of passage we walk all the way through and then you see the big avatar who which is huge i didn't realize how huge it was yeah Yeah. In the tank. In the tank. The avatar in the tank is huge. It's like 10 feet tall. And then, you know, I'm wearing a mask so no one is noticing me. It was during COVID.

During the middle. It's more of a, it was like last year. So more masks were sort of required, I believe. Sure. So I see myself and I'm like, oh my gosh, that's so funny. I've never, you know, have you seen a video on YouTube?

I've seen the video on YouTube, but it just felt a little surreal seeing, you know, seeing it right there and then, and I was in the back so nobody could see me. So then I turned around and did a little selfie. I like took the mask down, took a little selfie and took a picture of,

you know, me with the, with the pre-show in the back. And, you know, he does, he says says all his stuff move around a little bit yeah it's sort of i mean it's sort of like uh it's sort of like you know it's just i i think most people that go to the ride maybe are just not too pushed either love them or hate them they're just sort of like oh this is just part of the ride sure um so you know we go through the flight of passage pre-show and then i get on the ride which is like sort of like a bicycle seat and then yeah

you strap yeah you strap on and there's a big screen and the ride starts and it's incredible because it just feels like you're flying yeah yeah and then there's little sprays coming at you and it's just incredible and then i'd say like a minute into the ride i start to get nauseous wow like i'm just I'm feeling sick. Like, what's going on? And then, you know, I can hear, like, Mark next to me. He's loving it. He's just like, whoa, yes. He's, like, repeating lines that they're saying, you know,

because there's one avatar that's, like, you're sort of following that's, like, guiding you along. Right. Yeah. Or Ikran. One Banshee. banshee yeah and i'm just feeling really sick at some point i like close my eyes and it's like i can't take it anymore because like it's making me like it feels like i'm gonna throw up and i'm just sweating and sweating and when the ride's over uh mark looks up at me and he's just like, wasn't that incredible?

And then I go, yes, it was. And I didn't tell him. I was sweating so much, but it was so humid during the summer or September months. So it could have just been the heat. But the ride for me was, it's i i don't i can't do those those rides i could do a roller coaster just fine the 3d is probably the 3d yeah universal studios has a lot of those now a lot yeah and i had the same thing happen to me i think the harry potter ride i had to just close my eyes it was just like this is a really similar really nausea and yeah yeah i even get a lot i do it but i get a little like a tingle of it but people love it i think

it's just that i'm like like older and as a kid maybe i didn't have do those rides i don't know or maybe it's you aren't like yeah it was like you didn't get it you're the immunity yeah i didn't i didn't get the early immunity so yeah to answer your question jason i went on the ride and it made me sick wow wow the person who explains the ride before it was a back to it was a major part of the experience uh we had a tough time on the ride yeah that's pretty crazy yeah um so uh so you were not fully prepared to uh fly no no i wasn't you wouldn't do it again no i it was not a fun experience the first part was the first minute was incredible and then after that it's just like get me out of here it's just like not ending wow wow um a question about that video that

i guess i'm curious about that feeling like does it ever just hit you out of nowhere like oh there's that video of me playing right now there's strangers watching me across the country right now and then there will be again in 10 minutes and then in an hour and then again tomorrow. That's interesting. You know, I've never thought of it like that. I don't know how I feel about that. I think if I really think about it, I would not feel too good because it's like, it's like, you know, I would, because of the dubbing thing. It's like, I don't want, you know you know i feel i feel a little like it's not fully representative right so so yeah i guess i wouldn't feel too good about it but you know

uh they can change it if they want i i wouldn't feel bad about that if they if they decided to change it or would you not really yeah i don't think i would feel bad about it huh yeah because it it was just addressed, we haven't talked about this in the little Feliz Navidad season, that James Cameron said when Iger got reinstalled, I told Iger, hey, I'd love to, I'd redo the ride,

and we could do like an underwater thing for the new movie. So there wasn't the talk of, do we put a different ride film in there? Not that anything was said about would we change the pre-show, but it certainly could happen because they might have to explain

now how you ride a, do you know the name of the other, the creature? No, I'm going in cold. I don't, I want to know. The water one? Do you know? Do you want to cover your ears?

No. Oh, okay. It's the Alou. The Alou. Sorry. The Mighty Alou. Are we we going with mighty are we sticking with mighty you're still going to determine that hey jay let the king uh see the movie first i was just giving a name to uh uh in vulture they said you've met the mighty kron now

we have this whole thing mike uh invented he started saying this phrase the when you get on about the ride when you get on the ride and you get on the mighty acron and you ride on the mighty acron and then we were starting to go like i think we you might have even thought that was something that david said in it i think you bored the mighty or it's in the movie but it's not apparently it's it's only he said it so when mike googled the phrase ultimately all of the results were him if you look at mighty akron it's just me in this podcast so are they did they incorporate that in the well so okay the fall we just we discussed a little bit but but in the new trailer for the one of the one of the trailers for the new movie there's a shot where they just what are they asking for a description of?

It's talking about like, what is it like to feel Awa's heartbeat? Right. Like they're God. And there's a big long pause. And then the character goes, mighty. And then there's a cut to the water, Akron's flying. And we were like, this feels purposeful. Mighty's not like a thing that all the

now these said in the first movie or anything so anyway that got to them someone listened to the podcast and then someone pitched it probably like it probably wasn't written and someone pitched it and then they're like okay let's let's try mighty it's like can we do it again but say mighty this time i have a pitch and then boom mighty yeah i may i'll let you say it and not uh not take the credit ourselves that's a nice theory so you're saying they're going to change the software sort of like the video that's being shown and i don't think there's no official plan but it's something james cameron maybe wants to do in success of the the movie which i wish it's success uh i think it's gonna get it but the uh so so if that happens and then suddenly you find out there's a new video you

really you're you're fine you had your time oh yeah yeah i would be perfectly fine with that yeah wow yeah but be perfectly if they want if they need somebody to tell us talk about what it's like to uh to get in a link chair and board in an elu uh and maybe learn about maybe a different doctor's experience training the elu would you be up for the job uh again um good question i think i would want someone else to do it but i would want to do like a little cameo you know oh cool maybe just like one thing so i don't have to do all the all the dubbing again that's fair well what if uh i mean there's got to be a way to like that you're like you're in the back like your your chair is turned and then the the new person

who's talking needs to like and these you know and these characters swim as opposed to the Ekron who what's that Dr. Stevens could you help me out and you have to roll in and just be like alright guys let's get ready to and swim yeah I think it has to be

you'll just do that that's all I would do same money though as last time and you roll into frame and your hair is white and you have an eye patch and everyone's like what happened to Just do that. That's all I would do. Yeah. That's all I would do. Same money, though, as last time. Yeah. And you roll into frame, and your hair is white, and you have an eye patch, and everyone's like, what happened to Dr. What happened to him between rides? It's been a tough 40 years for Dr. Stevens.

This is great. Well, at least this needs to happen. This is where we can start. James Cameron, do as much with David as you want to do. i feel like at least the cameo i'm glad you pitched that uh um i well i mean we're kind of coming to the end and this is anything else you want to say about the experience but there's you know there's a little uh thing i'll veer into but uh and i don't know any like anything we did we did not get to about this whole weird no i feel like i told you about how i got sick on the ride one and only ride i told you about the shoot i told you about the audition i told you about the mean tweets

dumb wrong mean tweets uh yeah i don't know i think yeah that's a lot that's well um there's one more little thing if I could spring on you. And I asked about, you brought up violin. I asked about the music abilities. And it doesn't really matter here. But there's something that we have been ending these episodes with. Because it's Feliz Navidad, the way of winter. We've been doing little Christmas carols at the end of the episodes.

Or as we call them, a mutty kayak carols Which are the name of the tribe in the movie And we've just been singing These silly songs at the end of the episodes And I have a song prepared Which has a two line Cameo for you Speaking of cameos

Would you be up for doing a brief Part in a song that I'm going to perform here? Yeah, do you want to email it to me? I have it for doing a brief part in a song that I'm going to perform here. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Do you want to email it to me? I have it printed out. Print it out,

and your part is in bold, and then gentlemen, at the end, it's all, oh, sure. Thanks for getting that. At the end, there's italics,

and so that's where maybe we can all come in, but one last emoticaya carol and i think you'll know the part and i think you'll know the song but i'll i'll cue you too uh um but here i do one take did you guys did you guys rehearse it oh no no no they they haven't okay we don't know what it is yeah okay uh okay so uh apologies if there's any the brunt of it yes but everybody everybody come in at the end, is what I'm saying. Everyone is coming in at the end.

Let's end in full harmony. Can I turn it over yet? Oh, yeah. Oh, sure. No, no, go ahead. Okay, okay. Okay. I'll hand you the speaker.

Oh, sure, yeah. This will line up. And this is great. Thank you so much, David, for being part of this. And, you know know i invented a little bit of new avatar mythology myself and it's kind of based around a flight of passage and a new a new character hopefully a new beloved holiday character who's the the star of of this song Roo-tuck the mighty

Ekron Had a luminescent glow And if you Learned to ride him You would be Ekron Mocktoe All of the other Banshees

Matched with human DNA Roo-tuk could not go flying till a proper link was made then one flight of passage eve dr stevens came to say even though no match was right. You can still fly tonight. So he and Dr. Ogden shouted through the rookery. Roo took the mighty Ekron. No Ekron is more mighty. One more slower. No Ekron is more mighty.

Yeah. Hey, I'm going to do a quick scan it's a scan for stellar pipes guess what you all got them yay I hope I didn't ruin the song no that was great thank you for indulging a musical of fly for being the Santa in the tale the tale of rutuk and uh

and with that thrilled to say david danipour you survived podcast the ride thank you sir thank you so much such an honor to have you and uh so how do i get paid or like how do you oh well yeah well we're gonna we're gonna go over the footage and see if we uh we'll listen to the audio and see if we need to ADR anything. And then we'll determine it off of that. Oh, okay. Okay, I see. So, okay.

So, got it. We'll see if it's one line or we'll see if you have to re-record this entire episode. I would love to re-dub my part of this podcast. Every second. Well, feel free. If you want to do another one just for you uh we're open to that but uh uh as for now uh let's exit through the gift shop is there anything you would like to plug oh i should have plugged something but no i don't i don't maybe i should

make a t-shirt that says and a shirt and maybe i'll have it up by the time yeah go for it we'll we'll promote it and we'll share the proceeds we'll share the you take it okay it's all you it's your phrase thanks for saying it in the song as well it's really delightful i'm so glad you could do this oh yeah uh so it's so much fun and listeners you survived podcast the ride the main feed for 2022 that is the end of our season yeah i think a great way to go out glad david could join us for it uh it's our last one of the year here but um if you're worried that like leaving pandora you will will end up with post PTR depression and you will, that you will miss us too much over the holidays. The episodes will keep coming on podcast,

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