Podcast: The Ride - Avengers Campus

Episode Date: June 11, 2021

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FOREVER! DOG! Hooray! Thwip! Snicked! Clang! It's Avengers Campus on Podcast The Ride, a show hosted by three men who get a surge of self-satisfied adrenaline when they use the word cue instead of line. My name is Mike Carlson. Joining me as always, Jason Sheridan. Excelsior, Michael. Yes, thank you. You know, I saw someone holding, they're still having to do all the outdoor queues, and someone had a big sign on a stick that said, like, end of queue here. And I was like, that's interesting.

Disney is, like, officially saying queue on a sign. Yeah, I think that is now, like, just basic, like, theme park language. I think so, too. I wonder how many, like, man on the street, you know, your average Joe. Well, we're doing our part educating people every day of the updated vocabulary. And Scott Gardner is here doing his part.

Yeah. This seems like the kind of thing, like, one day somebody's going to be so mad about it on Twitter. It's a cue, okay? I'm only going to say this one more time. They're not lines. They're cues. Normalized cues. It's what we call them now.

And it has 1.2K likes. And why? Why is everyone so mad about it? Something like the... You know what I don't get mad about, like other people do, is sketch and skit. That's some weird comedy writer. Excuse me. Skits are at summer camp.

I think skits are... I think it's kind of fun to try to announce like nah this is a skit this is what we're doing like isn't it more it takes the pressure off you call it a skit a skit feels like something they did on hee haw but like you didn't have to worry about it's not as much art and i don't mean that in a bad way i mean that in the sense that like it's a little skit does just a little it could be 30 seconds skit implies cute it is not saturday night live where it's like a set that's very good and it immerses you it's like they didn't even change the set they put like half a costume on on a guy who's smiling at you like I'm not really a cowboy it's like slim pickings and junior samples doing a 25 second uh skit that's what they were doing. Those are names, by the way.

I only knew one of them. Junior Samples? I've never heard the name Junior Samples. You're getting too obscure for me. I was really listening to some of these old. Jason knows about this. I was listening to an old country artist named Little Jimmy Dickens

a couple days ago as well. Anyway, that's not what this podcast is about, though. No Lil Nas X for you. It's Lil Jimmy Dickens a couple of days ago as well. So yeah. Anyway, that's not what this podcast is about though. No little Nas X for you. It's little Jimmy Dickens. Well, well, that's funny enough. Funny you say that.

Okay. Really bad. Quick back to little Jimmy Dickens. You learned that he was born in the car around. We were, we were learned he was born in 1920 and he, he passed away in 2015. Wow.

And he, he was so around that he was on like the country music awards in 2011 doing a bit playing justin bieber playing little justin bieber at like age what did we find like 90 something like that and also it's important that's not just a nickname he is like 411 right okay okay he actually, anyway. So he's living his truth. Wow, still doing skits. Now that's a skit. That was a skit. Him and Brad Paisley

did a little skit on the Country Music Awards in 2011. It's freeing. Skit is freeing. Yeah. Sketch comedy should not be precious.

Yeah, skit comedy is a phrase that's never been said. So you can invent it as you go. Yeah. I work in skit comedy. a phrase that's never been said. So you can invent it as you go. I work in skit comedy. We're doing a great job of taking the thing that's happening this very week and immediately alienating audience with talk of little Jimmy Dickens.

Junior Sample. Junior Sample. We're saying as many names. But, however, this is how the whole episode is going to feel to me. Admittedly, a non-Marvel person. I don't know what anything is. You might as well. You know, Jimmy Dickens could be an Ant-Man character for all I know.

Lil Jimmy Dickens, yes. He was good friends with Hank Pym. He's one of the Yancey Street Gang. Oh, you're right. He was one of Ben Grimm, a.k.a. Things, Yancey Street Gang. The Young Tops. The Thing is from the Fantastic Four, of course, Scott.

He's the orange Rocky guy played by Michael Chiklis in the two movies. Yes. Yeah, yeah. And I forget who plays him in the Josh Trank version, but that's okay.

Yeah. But I should just keep tally marks of things that I don't understand in this episode, which there's going to be a lot. Should we slip in once in a while just a completely fake thing, a fake piece of information and see if Scott can point it out? I was going to say, if you do those tally marks by the end of the episode, you'd look like Batman's villain, Mr. Zazaz. But that's another universe.

I'm going to guess that that one's not fake. That is not fake. That's a serial killer who puts a hash mark on his body every time he kills someone. And he's covered in hash marks. He's actually a very creepy character. I think he's shown up on some of the shows. If you wrote out the word Lil, and with an apostrophe, those would all look like hash marks. That's true. That's a good point. Oh, that that's true words you can make entirely using hash marks yeah um fascinating info

so avengers campus we're talking about avengers campus today and the new land california adventure the parks are back open there's all new place yes to go to um and scott you're going to be of course even more in the dark because you did not, you were not able to attend. Didn't go. This was, so this, the intent was for,

you know, we reserved it in advance and synced them up. And the intent was that this would be the first time all three of us were in, were on Disney property together. And then a work thing came up and I could not do it.

So it'll just be questions on my end i will say this right away because listeners may have seen things that you tweeted um and i know that you uh you had pretty good luck i feel like with with with stuff i mean we'll get into it yeah but um i had a feeling unfamiliar to me in like a year and a half which is the the dreaded feeling of fomo you were fomoing absolutely i my my friends are at disneyland and i'm not and they're getting on all the stuff and i gotta go come on the podcast with my uh my head between my legs is that the phrase when you're embarrassed tail between the tail it's your tail not head that's like if i'm trying

the knees if you're feeling dizzy or pukey. That's like East Ventura or something when you're talking out of your butt. Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or if I'm trying to pleasure myself instead of between my legs. That's what I was sitting around trying to do instead of going to Avengers Campus.

So you will have to explain this to me like a four-year-old who's never been to Avengers Campus. Which we would also probably have to do if you had gone to avengers but you would have at least had a visual you reference in your brain a direct visual i do have a visual reference because jason was kind enough to bring a map that was very thoughtful of you that it would be helpful to have a did i just open the non-man no no that's the official that so that's a full California Adventure map. And then the other one is just details. I think that the other one is called Recruit's Guide.

And that is specifically what you can do in the land. But this is their current California Adventure map. It's the souvenir kind of cardstock map. I got one of these when we went to the opening day of Galaxy's Edge 2. Yeah. And it's very nice. It's a nice keepsake. Not the most practical map but you know

they're really pushing people to the app for better or worse they're pushing people to the app yeah interesting interesting um so i'm very curious what we have not really this was pretty fresh we're recording this just two days after you went and then we're putting it up two days after that so it's all it's all pretty quick. I don't really know how it went for you guys overall. Well, we say save it for the year, and we saved it for the year. I guess let's do a little bit of just the day, how the day started. Because, yes, like Rise of the Resistance, you have to get a spot in a virtual queue to even enter the land, really.

You can wait on standby, but it's much easier if you get a reservation for the Spider-Man ride, and then you can go basically right into the land. Yeah, and then you can go in the land, and you should probably stay because you're probably not getting back in the land for a little while. It seems like parks will be increasing capacity pretty rapidly.

Yeah, there's still a lot of COVID protocols pretty rapidly. There's a lot. Yeah, there's still a lot of COVID protocols in place. There's still capacity issues. There's still... I don't... Maybe... I don't want to tip my hat. I don't think there's going to be a crazy rush on this land for a long time.

I feel like in a month or two, you'll be able to comfortably walk in at least. Maybe not get on the ride necessarily right away. But I think... I can't imagine it's going to be a queuing up situation for this land i think that's correct um we we did take the risk as theme park journalists like any even during normal times if you go the first week even the first month of a new land attraction you you are a live test. You are an active guinea pig. And even from opening day, on the Friday opening day, to we went on the Monday, so we went a few days later, they had already tweaked a few things.

Right. So basically what it was, 7 a.m. is when you have to get your reservation. And this is pressure. This is what I live for. This is the thing I love, is checking, is getting things very fast. is the this is the thing i love is checking is getting things uh very fast i like the odds are against you when like people are tweeting i didn't get it and they're mad and you find a way yeah and seconds go but like it's seconds this stuff is done in so you really have to keep refreshing at 658 and then hit click join add all the party now the party was me jason lindsey uh zacharino and his wife nicole wonderful so we

had five people there and i kept giving i was giving everyone instruction because everybody has to do it we all have to chip in because maybe i'm gonna fail you know yeah and i gotta give a shout out to uh two people one carly weisel posted a while back an article by woman uh i believe it's brooke mcdonald and it said here are the step-by-step instructions that will make it pretty likely you'll get the rise of the resistance virtual q spot and it's identical it's the same process for web slingers it's just web slingers is the thing the new thing of the moment and it probably filled up even quicker and there's less spots i believe on web slingers and there isn't rising web slingers a spider-man adventure that's the thank you for showing the proper respect yeah which is a virtual

pew for yeah and i made a joke about this on twitter and you thought i was joking about having to wake up early and yeah it sucks to wake early. But I was joking more about the fact that you have two one-minute windows in a day, in a day of 24 hours, that if at the moment, if you're trying to get in this land, your best bet is 7 o'clock to 7.01 and 12 p.m. to 12.01. It's very harrowing. I had to do it for Rise of the Resistance when we returned a couple weeks ago

and I missed the seven. I screwed up. I was not quick on the draw. It really is like an Old West gun fight. I got the 12 and you're watching everyone around you. Suddenly all the phones come out and everyone around you becomes an enemy all of a sudden. Yeah, no, man.

You motherfuckers. You're gonna stop me and and and i i have to say i i did get a 7 a.m rise a few weeks ago when i went back to disneyland and i think because i kept double checking what i was doing and i had an extra pass in my thing or a legacy pass or whatever and um so I think I got like group 28 and we had plenty of time to get down there and walk over and all. So I took an extra minute to double check everything and still got a spot. This, I think by the grace of God,

Lindsey pulled it. Lindsey did it. He just, yes. So I'm over in this green chair i'm like sitting on the ground in a stress position at 659 lindsey's over here but you're in the chair the chair i i go through i refresh it i refresh it refresh i'm gonna do this i remember the join button appears a blue join button appears and i'm like here we go this is it i i remember i hit the wrong part of the join button it doesn't work i had to hit

it three times and i was like fuck i'm fucked we're fucked and all of a sudden then i hit join and then there's an error which means somebody got it yeah that's and i got that too and yeah so we're all on a text chain now because zach and his wife are trying it jason is trying it lindsey just goes oh i think i got it and i go are you sure are Jason is trying it. Lindsay just goes, oh, I think I got it. And I go, are you sure? Are you sure you got it? And she's like, yeah, I think I got it. I got it right here.

It's 17. And to see it, you have to quit the app. If someone else got it, I found it by quitting the app and going back in. And then it told me. This is very Lindsay, I feel like, is like invested in all the stuff, likes all the stuff, but way chiller about it than you than us than all everyone of course well she and she

I was so riled up I was like not even believing and she goes look I know you wanted to be the one to get it and I'm sorry but I got it and I'm like no no okay thank you yeah you did it no you did it you did it yeah I didn't do it you did it no you did it you did it yeah i didn't do it you did it

you deserve the credit um and so yeah so we're 17 so we're like we got in the car because that's yeah yeah i threw my i was sitting up in bed doing it i threw my clothes on also like you know hustled to the car yeah yeah because this also now this dictates when you leave yeah if it's a later group yeah now, now that's the other thing, too, because it said estimated wait time, 182 minutes. It does not say whether that is from when you pulled it at 7 a.m. or from when the park opens. It appears to be a rough estimate from when you pulled it because we got called at like nine

nine nine o'clock nine o'clock yeah and i was still in line for parking because i was in line for parking for 35 minutes oh no you talked a big game about getting there for breakfast then you were the last one of all of us we were all in the same spot we were all like one of us was like you were entering the tramway zach and nicole had pulled into a parking spot i was still in the well they were ahead of us they they arrived first and lindsey and i and then we were waiting and lindsey had to like call me because i get so worked up like getting into play because i'm worried like something's gonna go wrong or they're gonna be like i'm gonna get arrested for something i don't not arrested but like i did something wrong uh and then lizzie i'll be like it's fine it's fine like what do you what's wrong i go no it's fine i'm just waiting

for jason she's like it's fine because zach and nicole had already gone in and done the ride so yeah i just oh you didn't all have to be together no we didn't know we'd have to be together every every person has a individual qr code yeah and they are scanning that they are checking and double checking yeah okay so jason shows up i take a little bit of a sigh and then we head in the land we see zach and nicole they just went on uh and then we get in line for web slingers a spider man adventure and i i to give you know mike some solidarity i was also very stressed because i didn't know you don't say i didn't understand that what that was like oh i think they called us i didn't see that for a few minutes so i'm like hustling through security hustling through the

thing and i got to like it said get here by 9 39 so i think it was an even smaller window than when i did rise so when i saw mike and lindsey i felt like it was like five minutes left i felt like indiana jones reaching back for his hat or like jason sheridan making it into uh i make it into the place yeah to get that sunday to get that special sunday yeah and then mike goes like i think they're doing like a 30 minute buffer like i've seen other people going like yeah they're not fine i think if yeah if you're like oh the parking was bad i didn't i didn't i didn't i was like just like i gotta get over there uh because i was also trying to be considerate that like zach and nicole you know don't go as but like it's like oh we have to make sure they have a nice day. Like, they're not

maniacs like us. They don't go for war purposes. They don't go to battle. This wasn't a work day for them. This was a fun day. So, we went in there and we got right in the line for web slingers. And like,

we're gonna talk, we have to talk a little bit about web slingers. Yeah. No, no, no. I think anything's's on the table i'll get down and do it when things are a little less crazy episode i saw a crazy rumor maybe this is gonna make me sound i saw crazy rumor that maybe annual passes will be back soon i don't know yeah um i i forget who put you sent me this someone posted a clip of someone talking to like a cast member at the gate. And he's like, yeah, no, oh, sorry. That's your scandal legacy pass.

Yeah, we don't have those right now. They'll be back in July. And when I, I had a whole thing where I reactivated my legacy, my legacy pass had disappeared. And the woman told me at the ticket booth, she's like, and that's good until the end of the month, till the end of June.

And I was like, oh, that's weird that they're expiring so quickly. So we might just be spreading rumors. We might be rumor mongering. We should do more where we go up to just random employees and shove a microphone in their face and see what things they heard. Because oftentimes it's just like secondhand or like, yeah i heard the guy say that i did overhear like some random employee stuff where it's like oh that would have been helpful to know or like there were some weird there's some the cast members were doing great by the way they they were real troopers because some of this stuff was kind of a shit show i was a little exhausted by some can i say

i know i know that we'll get to that can i say a real thing that happened like a funny thing that happened later? I love when I overhear somebody saying something wrong, and I'm sure people listening to this podcast have it happen all the time, but I heard a guy talking to his family and explaining why Star Tours wasn't in Galaxy's Edge, and he goes, yeah, Star Tours was not in Galaxy's Edge because George Lucas said he didn't want his ride anywhere near those new shitty ones. That's why Star Tours isn't in galaxy's edge and he kept saying it like definitively and i was like there's what that's not true and then you then like who is that what mitch is back in town since when one of the wealthiest

family mitch had a family over the quarantine a quiet quarantine one of the wealthiest men in the entertainment industry and also a pretty reserved man wealthiest men in the entertainment industry and also a pretty reserved man i feel like in the entertainment industry george lucas sure that's a long falsetto sentence you really like am i wrong i like i i could be wrong but like i feel like george lucas pretty restraint in his public conduct doesn't mean he couldn't say like those motherfuckers ran kylo he's mad about he is mad about those movies he was on charlie rose and he said some conduct. Doesn't mean he couldn't say like those motherfuckers Ren, Kylo, pieces of shit. He is mad about those movies. He was on Charlie Rose and he said some, that was the most

like angry he's ever been when he was talking about those, what Disney did to the Star Wars movies. He's like, well, they just wanted to make a movie about a spaceship and movies were never really about spaceships. It was more like a family drama. They want to make art films. Yeah. Do we get to see him? No. No.

No, you won't. Well, I think he said you might. Did Charlie say that? I believe he did. I hope not anymore. Oh, that's the first privilege Charlie Rose lost. Yeah. He was going weekly to see the weekly new films.

The dailies. Maybe it'll be like, maybe there's a safe. Maybe when George passes. Because there's a bunch of J.D. Salinger books. Oh, you think that movies will come out. That bunch of J.D. Salinger books that are in the same, that might come out. Maybe. It's possible.

So, all right, we're in the queue for Web Slayers. Spider-Man Adventure. Spider-Man Adventure. Gotta say, pretty much walked on to this brand new attraction. Well, yeah, but that's also the virtual queue and the COVID protocols. When we got out, the line actually had gotten much bigger.

So, if you don't know, the premise is like, Tony Stark has given a grant of some kind to give the youth of the Marvel Universe, like the very smart youth of the Marvel Universe,

I don't know, experimental lab to do experiments on? Yeah, and it's all Easter eggs. It's loaded with Easter eggs. It's loaded with fun references. The alter egos of Marvel characters. Squirrel Girl, Moon Girl, Peter Parker, of course,

in there. The character from Iron Man 3 who is like crying at the funeral at the end of that game. Yes, the little boy from Iron Man 3, Scott like crying at the funeral at the end of the game from iron man 3 scott is in this featured in this ride here comes the glaze over it's starting no okay i've seen like two or three of them which one yeah which ones have you seen so we know maybe it's not two or three i'm i really i feel like I've said this before. I am not trying to be some cultural snob. I just don't connect to these movies. I just don't get it. I have no

in on them. I don't feel invited in by them and I don't see them. I'd like to. It seems like everyone's having a lot of fun. Fun that I'm not having. That's fair. I think Iron Man 3 is the one Shane Black directed and I think that one's pretty self-contained. So I think you could watch that one. But the whole thing is about his PTSD

from the Avengers movie. Yeah, that's true. I have PTSD when you say Shane Black because I was working in an office once where it was a bunch of young nerdy guys like myself. Except for one cool, I think it was a maid husband who was married to an executive and lived on a

boat and he's this like this like buff you know weird dude and he just apropos of nothing on a friday afternoon it's silent everybody's working he stands up and says hey it's uh anybody else going to shane black's pool party tonight to utter silence no one said anything no one looked up because no look at who you're with. No, we're not going to Shane Black's pool party. And that's the only association I have with that name. Look, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang,

the good guys, you know, the great times. You can do a lot worse. He's in Predator. Shane Black? Yeah. No, is he? He directed Predator. He's in the suit. No, he's not in the suit. He's one of the guys. He's one of the guys on the team. I think he was in the suit, too.

He was not in the suit. While he was there. Oh, the Predator. Okay, what's interesting, the Predator is in Avengers Campus. He's stalking around. Oh, cool. Yeah. Now I remember hearing a cast member secretly record saying that.

Cast members will not tell you what time the Predator is at. Although the Predator did serve Jason his French toast. He was behind the counter. That's true. Very overwhelmed. Very overwhelmed. Jason has the same sort of predator radar vision when it comes to food. Heating of food. Sweet breads.

To bread pudding style French toast? Absolutely. French toast is purple in his vision. And then if it's more of a sourdough it's green and then if it's wheat or rye it's more yellow french are you crazy you gotta make well it's not my like yeah sourdough or brioche it's not my bread vision you're the one who has the bread vision by the bread bug anyway very fun easter eggs uh yes there's a lot of web slingers um there's a bunch of peanut lockers that are like one looks like venom one looks like spider gwen ghost spider one looks

like miles morales and so the whole premise basically of the of this area of the land is that okay tony stark's dad howard stark he's you know he was aroundonald he like tony slattery uh john slattery that's a little i'm so out i was like i know something finally and i was wrong no roger sterling himself yes yeah great so the idea is like this used to be like a snowed stark motors building and now they've sort of repurposed it to be this uh exploration campus area much like in Burbank, the old Lockheed Martin plant is now the Empire Center shopping center with a Target and a Walmart. I'm not kidding.

What a great thing to reference in your theme park experience. Renovation of warehouse spaces. You know, the Imagineers, they know the score. They know the score. They're going to the Empire Center Target. They're not going to that weird Glendale two-story target. Well, that Glendale target's fun. I don't know.

It's a three-story as well. It's its own thing. You need to be ready for that escalator. The Chauvin Garda escalator. I went to the La Canada target today and it was small, but it had everything. And I was very interested. They often do. The small ones are good. Yeah, because I was worried they weren't

going to have a NECA collectible section and they did have one. Wow. Really great. So yeah, so the aesthetic is like, and I like stuff about Avengers Campus. There was other stuff I could nitpick and we'll get into all of it.

And this is a joke I saw other people make. It's not my own joke, but the front of it does look like an old circuit city. It's a big red, like plug. Yeah. It looks like plugged in. And then it's sort of been, it's like parts of the building are more like of that aesthetic.

And then parts are more like, yeah, an old brick building. Let's say like Howard Stark or whatever. Like a Halloween adventure moves in to a former circuit city. These rides moved in. Well, it also like,

as you get a third of the way into the land like the old Stark facility starts to fade away like that story gets kind of abandoned kind of quickly. Right they don't do that with the whole thing. I mean the first part of it feels like Disney. Honestly a lot of it

feels like Disney Springs to me. I'll be honest. And like pleasant buildings some like and then obviously the avengers headquarters is a different type of building but it feels very much like that aesthetic from disney springs where it's like brick and there's some like little uh touches and accoutrements yeah yeah fake aging old fonts um and in. And we took a picture of it, and there is another fun joke, gag. Yeah. Is that on the side of the building, there are two trees, regular side trees, and then there's a giant tree in the middle.

And if you look over on the bottom, there's a little, what do you... Gamma, gamma runoff. Yeah, basically like... The tree's been Hulkified, essentially. Basically, so yes, they... I mean, it's really bad for the environment to dump gamma rays or gamma waste out of these holes into just the dirt,

but that's what they did, and the tree is now giant. The tree's been poisoned, essentially, and it's like a Hulk tree. It's a Hulk tree, really. There's a fun... Oh, there's a fun Easter egg, too. There's a bumper sticker on the one like sign for a pizza place uh with lucky on it who is oh yes pizza dog hawkeye's dog from

that fraction hawkeye comic book run which presumably in the tv shows soon the coming tv show this way you're this one's fake no real no pizza dog pizza dog was a hit an award-winning i have a toy of pizza yeah pizza dog beloved uh character for the last uh decade yeah so and he's not been feed yet he's not been featured yet yeah some of the stuff is clearly like arrested development style flash forwards where it's like this is a reference to a thing you haven't seen yet i think there's a little nods to the uh show, which just aired today. And I have to say, I like the Loki show. The Loki show has a bunch of crazy comic book nonsense in it

that I think is lacking, is slowly coming into the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but is lacking in this land a little. Well, yes, that would be the first thing I would say. I have not seen the Loki show yet. I'm going to watch it i watch all of this stuff obviously i'm a fan of it uh i will say just off the top okay of course my wheelhouse is the 90s comic books that aesthetic universe like islands of adventure

it's not quite fair to compare them it's not completely fair to compare the two rides, Universal, Orlando, Spider-Man, and this one. But yes, my preference for these characters, I think it's the type of stories, is colorful nonsense. It is Batman 66. The villain has a giant base that is based on whatever dumb gimmick he has. If it's Clock King, it's that he's tied Batman and Robin to the hands of a clock, and his whole lair is this giant clock, like whatever.

So yes, the bigger, the crazier nonsense, which is why I'm such a big fan of Guardians. It's a big, gaudy, colorful... Oh, the dumb villain's bad. He looks silly. He looks very silly. He looks silly. Cosmo the dog is in there.

Yeah, there's all those fun characters inside the queue. Fun references. But then there's a lot of fun care there's fun characters inside the queue references but then like there's stuff like howard stark's like uh you know designs or ads for like the flying like sleek uh like cadillac cars which is a nod to the old like 1960s nick fury agent of shield comics and it's like what why isn't that in all of the movies why isn't shield flying around in flying cars why is it like why is it like the military why is it our boys in blue in camo the famous uh like the most famous agents of shield thing scott the comic book wise was made by a guy named jim staranko and now he's a fucking lunatic. He's lost his out of his fucking mind. He's always been a lunatic

but he's really crazy now. I paid him $20 to get a headshot of him like an old like because he's a magician too an old like magic magician's headshot of him and he really was confused why I wanted that one. But he also drew like a promo art like or early concept art for Indiana Jones

Oh wow. Yeah. And his Nick Fury stuff is very cool and pop art and colorful and like psychedelic too where you could see how like oh this influenced like just a lot of popular culture of its time and he didn't even make that many comics that's the other right but like i don't know some of the fun of of marvel comics in the comics industry in general and is is the insane like contradiction like marvel ike perlmutter the guy who owns marvel is a real life super villain he's just a fucking scumbag he doesn't technically own it anymore but he's still like kind of in charge even though he's kind of been like pushed to the side

thankfully sidelined him a little because yeah but, but we've talked a little bit about him before because he has some real nasty, ugly stories that you can find online about him. Yeah. But we won't get into all of the toy biz restructuring of Marvel in the 90s like Scott wishes we would. Oh, man. Sorry, Scott.

Before there was the time. Nope, nope, not happening. We're not getting into it. We haven't talked about the ride. So we are a little, yeah, because like Mike said, we were both 90s Marvel kids. I also very fond of the 2000s era,

like bankruptcy era Marvel, where they were taking a lot of risks because like, what's the harm this company could go under? So it's like, yeah, give Grant Morrison the X-Men, give Kevin Smith Daredevil, like all of these uh other voices kind of

coming in and and fiddling around with the character that's alias came out in that time um which was made into a netflix show um and yeah and there's there's some stuff yeah jessica jones that's what it was oh i'm sorry yeah they changed it because there was already a tv show called um uh and right now i like there's some current Marvel stuff I like. For example, the X-Men live on a tropical island that is a mutant, and they've declared a mutant state. The island itself is a mutant. The island itself is alive.

Oh, whoa. And in the month of June, they're having a big party. A gala. A gala. The Hellfire Gala. The Hellfire Gala. And I am very excited. There's so much great nonsense.

And I will say also, I'm an X-Men guy. And the X-Men haven't come into this MCU yet. There's a little X-Men representation at California Adventure right now. It almost feels like they got my letters and they're making fun of me. The X-Men, I don't want to be such as... The X-Men are the coolest heroes i'm sorry in marvel universe they are cool i'm sorry i have to they just happen to be you can't make me not say it they're still yeah they're still the coolest and it's like i always and i've said this before on the show

as a kid i like the avengers but the aven felt like, these are mom and dad's heroes. Like, these are mom and dad's heroes. Yeah. And I think of movies, I think the coolest is, it's got to be Into the Spider-Verse. Oh, of recent times, for sure. That feels like very vibrant and cool. Comic book-y and risky. Yeah. It has its own voice.

I mean, the Marvel, again, I like all the Marvel movies, but there's a sameness to the voice of the movies sometimes. Some of them are a little bit different than the others, obviously. But there's a tone. There's a thing they like to do. They don't go crazy. But like, yeah, the Spider-Verse is like, whoa, this is its own thing. This is cool.

So anyway, so yeah, the X-Men are not there yet. But yeah, there's some wild nonsense. And this is what we want more in the land. And so here, I'll say this before we even, I'm all over the place here. I think this thing, this Avengers Campus and this ride, I think the idea for this is this is just the little hub that's going to lead you to more way more nonsense i think and

it's hard to kind of weigh it and judge it because i know people are really like hating on it but i and they can't like tell you exactly what's coming what they have planned but i feel like it's almost as if they opened up main street and the hub and like a little ride. And we're like, here you go. And I get why people might go, well, wait a minute. Yeah. This isn't,

it's not bad. I like this, but I'm here to see every, like you're leaving out big stuff that hopefully fingers crossed is still coming. Like the e-ticket. They're not even necessarily talking about a timeframe still for like when that big Avengers ride is coming or even alluding to the fact that which is what I think is that they'll probably go around and

get rid of Monsters Inc and all that Hollywood stuff and start I think what would make sense to me is start filling in a high-rise skyline back there yeah because the Marvel Universe like my to me if you say the Marvel Universe, it's New York City. I mean, it goes to space. The X-Men are outside in Westchester County. And there's any number of international heroes. But, like, Marvel, you know, the creators, publishing was all in New York City. It was set in New York City.

It's what set it apart from DC Comics comics which is metropolis gotham fictional cities like new york city is a big part it's almost a character in itself but it it because it's in california adventure they're they're really trying hard of like this is a california tech campus like avengers campus as with the but the the this campus thing also ties into the international thing because it's in h Kong and it's in Europe. And they're all supposed to be a little different. It's not like Galaxy's Edge. So, yes, it's all a bunch of outposts of this organization.

Yes. So I think the idea would eventually be have more of this stuff around it. So I'm trying to give them some credit here. Yeah. Because I, because they were obviously given this tiny piece of land and they needed to get stuff in here in a relatively fast time. And they'd have,

there was space limitations and I'm sure budget limitations on ride. But as Tony Baxter says about the opening of Tomorrowland in 98, like the audience doesn't necessarily know what your budget, they don't care. Yeah. And there's some other stuff that like when i was in college they called a bad production sense of like will that why can i not hear this person talking but i can hear the music and why is it the same three songs on a loop well that's yeah we'll get back to the right so so yeah we'll get back to right but now you brought that up.

They play the Avengers score, which I honestly have come to like a lot more hearing it over and over again in the land. I think it's Alan Silvestri, who did Back to the Future, who's done a lot of great things, but it's a very specific tone. It's like very like,

here we go, we're rising to the occasion. But like when you're sitting out at a beer garden drinking a beer float, you don't necessarily need that tone for two hours straight. Yeah, it's like if you went to Galaxy's Edge and they played theme from Star Wars and then Duel of the Fates and then theme from Star Wars and then Duel of the Fates, and then theme from Star Wars, and then Duel of the Fates. Lindsay and I both, I think, had the same reaction of like,

this music is stressing me out. This is like, this is like a PsyOps, where like they blast, like someone has taken hostages, and they're blasting music at them. There's enough like, play like Back in Black by,

because they play that in Iron Man. Like there's enough, I understand like there's enough like play like back in black by like because that's that they play that in iron man like there's enough like i understand like there's a lot of different like superhero so many scores across all these there's yeah like 35 movies the black panther soundtrack has all these bangers by these huge artists that you could easily it's supposed to be an open house it's like a party almost and guardians does play like diegetic music that makes sense. You know, spacey music and then the classic rock from the movies. The music in the queue. I never, I hadn't gotten like stuck in the queue.

I've kind of always like maxed past it. And I was out there the whole time, like due to the COVID lines. And cool music. That queue's fantastic. The Guardians queue, yeah, is fantastic. There's one line, I think I said this when we first went maybe on the show, there's some Easter egg for some Disneyland stuff. Yes.

Music that they've turned up, I don't know, the bass or treble or turned off or something. And he's collecting, because he collects, you know, Tannoy or Tavon, the collector collects. So he's playing some really faded old like faded old disneyland like loop music in the queue at a certain point um but that's all well done there's so much stuff and you know i also feel like i never get the same part of that queue loop yeah so i yeah i i'm assuming they'll eventually maybe give you some more variation in avengers campus as far as your

the tone like you're not always rising to the occasion sometimes you're yeah just eating chilling out yeah because then i will say this i like it's gonna be a nice little area to to drink by the pym test kitchen you know at night or something like we gotta order this thing we're we've been stuck in the queue for i know we're back to this so we'll finish we'll go back to spider oh yeah so the actual ride, I think it's fun. I had a good time. I think the, yeah. So yeah, if you don't know.

No, that wasn't definitive. Well, here's what I was thinking about it. Okay. So you get in these like little cars and it's a 3D ride where you're shooting webs. Basically, spoiler alert, the actual Tom Holland, they got Tom Holland to do the pre-show, which is fun. Cherry himself? Cherry himself. Cherry?

Cherry is there. He announces himself as Cherry. Hey, I'm Cherry. And he's got, there's a bunch of spider bots he's created. And for some reason, they self-replicate, which seems, I don't know what that technology is. But they have technology that robots can self-replicate, which seems real dangerous. And it happens. They get out of control.

And he basically said he doesn't want to look like a fool in front of the Avengers. So he says we have to go help. So we get in these vehicles and put our 3D glasses on. And then we have to basically shoot webs at just an onslaught of little spider bots. Onslaught of villain is not in this ride. It's not in the villain. The onslaught is what happens when Professor X tried to white Magneto's mind during the Fatal Attractions storyline, and they created this kind of monster, ethereal creature who

eventually, the Avengers sacrificed themselves and got sent to a pocket dimension to defeat him. Yeah, it was called Heroes Reborn. Yes. Is that real or fake? I think it's too specific to be fake. It's real. Yeah, it's real. It was a way to get some of the founders

of Image Comics to come back and do some new characters, Jim Lee, Rob Liefeld, of course. They didn't really all finish their books, but it only lasted a year. You both could have the no prep podcast. Just record a whole season of a Marvel podcast where you just start at 8 a.m. and end at 10 p.m.

And then you just release that in two hour chunks. You wouldn't need a break. I got disgusted at some. But like, yeah. It's possible. I haven't quite found the angle. It wouldn't need a break. I got disgusted at some point, but like, yeah. It's possible. I haven't quite found the angle. It's still possible. Yeah.

Okay. So, yeah. So, basically, it's like three major screens, really. It's like three or maybe four. I forget, actually. This is all... Now, it's in the building where It's Tough to Be Above was. So, that was a very small footprint for a ride.

Yeah. And they didn't even uh put up a new structure yeah i don't know if they extended the building at all but yeah it's basically the same structure from what i understand and the idea is that now you sort of have spider powers and you're shooting webs at little robots coming at you yeah and i you i didn't realize this until later they kind of don't there's signs instructing you as you're walking up. But again, we were walking by everything kind of quick. The pre-show sets up the story pretty well, but the mechanics of the web slinging, you

can apparently sling and then pull levers or pull boxes. Okay, so this is what I was wondering. The problem is I only went on this once. And I was just saying, man, it would be great if you, because basically all I thought I was able to do was like shoot little bursts of webbing and i'm like yeah spider-man does that but what i want to do is pull like shoot my web pull an object and have it fly or whatever yeah it is also kind of missing like web slinging to me always meant like well flying through the city this is the this is the thing because like they're very very focused on

you become the hero this you're here to learn this is college and you're learning and i think they're a little too focused on that unless you're truly like doing some sort of like definitive transformative experience which is what you're saying like the thing you always want to do with spider-man i was never like man i to like shoot my webs like they're bullets. That was never what I wanted to do as a kid. I wanted to swing like that's the Spider-Man thing you want to do. Which you do get to do on the Islands of Adventure one. Which I do more of for sure.

And in that leaked patent, not leaked, but that patent that Disney made of that probably Spider-Man ride. You certainly seem like you get to do that i i'm sidetracking because there was that patent that came out a couple years ago that made it seem like they were developing a ride that you would get in like a row of people and swing from the ceiling in front of like practical building sets oh which sounds amazing way better um but obviously that's a budget and time thing. Or a budget, time, and space thing. So maybe they'll still do that.

Something for the Web Slinger's ride that we did, we both agreed we liked, is that in the ride you go through the other parts of Avengers camp. Yes. So one of the levels in the ride was the collector's building. So all of a sudden you ride was the collector's building.

So all of a sudden, you're inside the Guardian's ride and you're shooting at the bugs, which is really cool. And there's little secrets or whatever. Oh, I like that. And then, yeah, the last scene is you're on top of the Avengers headquarters.

Okay, which is that, like the other main structure that might lead into an attraction. Right. Possibly. So I liked all that stuff a lot i guess i just really like when you compare it to something another 3d ride like toy story i feel like you don't have like the time with it you know like there's there's a feeling of like chaos because

truly it's just like robots coming at you and you're shooting things so fast versus like toy story even though like there's a quality like there's a crazy quality to it i for some reason i can remember the levels of toy story and i feel like i feel like i'm there's not so much chaos maybe it's because i've done it a lot well you stop you park and you well you do park in these two you're parked basically but the the like levels are like much more manic feeling to me they're manic and i kind of like that i wouldn't say the ride it feels short it feels like an appropriate length sure but um i know what you toy story does feel like twice as long even if it's probably about the same length yeah i think it might be longer but yeah so it's like you get a little more like i i think there's just there's a

lot of these you know they want to be more interactive, but it's like, and same with like Millennium Falcon, but it's like, I think we don't need too much of this. Like we just, we want to sit and enjoy more than we need to be flailing our arms at an image. It just feels just my first time going on it.

I was like a little overwhelmed as opposed to being like, wow, isn't this so cool? Cause there was elements that like i was intellectually saying over that is very nice but i wasn't like oh wow i'm i'm doing it i'm shooting my webs like bullets like that's just what i've always wanted to do you gotta get used to learning it and everything and that's that's a little exhausting so i'm sure by the time i do it a few more times i'll at least i'm sure i'll have more fun playing the game but i definitely want to dedicate more time ride it a few more times and then do a full episode about it because there's there is there was a lot of stuff i liked but it was yeah it was so manic and we went through it once and i'll admit i tried to pull

a noon reservation too because sometimes the app breaks and lets you do stuff like that like later when i went to the legacy pass holder al fresco tasting terrace oh man was behind a group where the lady said i made a reservation online and they said oh are you a legacy pass holder and they went no but it let me make a reservation they're like oh we gotta look into this and i think they were just like, yeah, there's not that many people up there. Yeah, let them up. That's probably a better spirit.

That place used to be for everyone. There were no rules. And then Jason went right to City Hall and he complained. And he said, that's for me. That place is for me, a legacy pass holder. But you know, like little things like that slip through the cracks sometimes. Sure, so you tried to slip through the cracks sometimes. Sure.

So you tried to slip through the cracks. So I tried to do it because I only had a one day, one park ticket. And you pulled a rise. Yeah. So you were going to hop. So I was like, well, I'm going to stay here. And I stayed in the land the longest. Yes.

You stayed in the land. I was in the land for three hours. That may have been my error because by the end I was like, I have to get away from this music. I just, it's just too much. We would be in Disneyland. We would be like sitting out by, you know, the lake or the river or whatever.

And we're like, I wonder what Jason's doing now. Oh, I'll tell you about it when we wrap it up. I'll walk you through what I did. So, yeah. So Spider-Manman it was like it was over before i knew it and i i also think the script i meant was i too tall for the computer to read me i feel like the computer was not quite noticing like where my arms were uh so we got done with it and it was like okay yeah sure sure and i know people are like i've seen the discourse of like why would disney open a ride that's so similar to

the other the orlando ride like a 3d ride with spider-man with no villains yeah that was what big criticism i saw that i i did have to agree with where spider-man has this like batman both have these great rogues gallery uh galleries and and you you didn't have and you didn't have anyone? You didn't have, like, you know, Vulture or Doc Ock or, you know, even, yeah, Vulture was in the first Tom Holland one. Yeah, Dr. Frameworth? Yeah.

That Spider-Man villain? Fake, fake, got it. That was what you had to tell. I also was just looking around the room. I like Dr. Frameworth, though. Looking around the room. Frames. Damn it.

And it requires worth to have frames, so you combine those words. Yeah. This, the Smuggler's Run does not have villains. No villains, no. Also, it's about crates and elements. Yeah. And this doesn't, this is about learning and training in a facility. Maybe this is a whole thing, there's, I guess

there's no, you know, Star Tours has a lot of villains, it didn't really the first time but there is the Death Star, there's the feeling of, I think maybe this is a thing they keep going wrong with there's a new, there's a newer I don't know what it is, I wonder if I'm sure if, you know

we had like a real inside like Imagineering source they could tell us maybe if there's some sort of edict or something because i do feel similar things to this and galaxy's edge where i go i don't know it feels like sometimes there's an overthink maybe like yeah i don't know why there's not just one bad guy that broke in and made the spider bots crazy like made them wild and then i don't know if it's like because well this could be like well sony technically has the rights to spider-man and they won't let us we we don't want to use michael keaton in this ride because he's the vulture in the first spider-man we don't want to use

jake gyllenhaal because he's like i don't know what like yeah like hoops they feel like they have to jump through just put a or use a new a new, or use a villain that they're never gonna use in one of these movies. Yeah, I mean, that could be it. And not a lot of the actors otherwise, besides Tom Holland, represented. Some dialogue. Well, there's a lot of voice.

Yeah, a lot of voices. Some we were like, is this an impersonator? Well, a couple of them came to the opening ceremony. Well, of course. Some we were like, is this an impersonator? Well, a couple of them came to the opening ceremony. Well, of course. Paul Rudd, Anthony Mackie. Yes, indeed. What I was wondering is,

is Paul Rudd probably not used to being not the most handsome man on a stage, but when he's up there with Josh DeMauro, president of parks in general, right right do i have this right finally um not disneyland yes yes overall probably intimidated i bet he was back there like i can't go out there i can't go out there i'm paul rudd i gotta be number one sure anthony mack anthony mack you have the same thing great Great, good-looking guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But both of them put to shame by Josh Daae. Yeah, I mean, every Hollywood casting director probably looked at that stage and said, what are we doing here?

Putting the wrong people in things. We let this guy slip through the cracks and he's an executive? He's not in front of the camera? I mean, Kevin Feige was there, too. And I think Feige probably like also had the thought of like let's make him like let's make him dr frameworth in the spider-man movie let's do something with him uh fake yeah still fake still fake true or false kevin feige shows

up in the new issue of x-men just him in it i don't know that sounds awful enough that yes. That is a true thing. Ugh. Yeah. Wow. I don't... Look, it seems like he's doing a good job, but there's nothing interesting about him. When he talks somewhere, like at this ceremony, that is not interesting. This ceremony was very boring to me.

He's not there, and I think it's a gag because it's like, oh, everyone's here. Like, dignitaries in the Fantastic Four and the Avengers, like, everyone's here. But it's him.ies and the Fantastic Four and the Avengers, like, everyone's here. But it's got a suit on with a baseball cap. It's him. Kevin needs to do the show. I know he's a big theme park guy.

So let's bring him on. Okay. I'm sure he can't do it. I'll take it back. Yeah, take it back. Jon Favreau, Happy Hogan. His character's name is Happy Hogan in the movies. Not a lot of Happy Hogan, his character's name is Happy Hogan in the movies. Not a lot of Happy Hogan.

Happy Hogan featured very heavily in the new Spider-Man movies. Yes. Yeah, yeah. I always liked Happy Hogan. Interesting Punisher representation in the land, by which I mean I saw a guy with a Punisher tattoo on his leg, and I made sure not to tread on him, which is what his other tattoo said

so and yeah uh his mask was below his nose for sure that's right it's how patriots wear them yeah stupidly the punisher is a character yeah that's for sure that was joke yeah there's no other punisher it was just a just a guy i saw. My thing with this ceremony maybe ties into some of what you didn't like about the attraction. What's making me nervous, I'm not going to like this place more, is that there is just a lot of like, we wanted to create a place where you could unlock the hero within. Tap into your own hero potential and unlock. And I'm like, this is all word soup, nothing. This is like, these are words designed

to be translated into a hundred languages and still not really mean anything like how can it have almost no meaning to where just the the non-thought can just shift it into as many places as it can i i think that i think they got that with the actual like walk around characters like i saw kids excited to see like captain marvel and black panther and iron man and the door and melange people were excited uh to see that people decked out too in like marvel clothes like t-shirts and jackets and stuff yeah but i mean i think and we've talked about this before the over over, like, kind of, like, relying on you're the hero. You're becoming.

And it's like that's always been part of the theme park experience. It's like you're along for the adventure. You're going to help. Like the original Spider-Man at Universal was like you're now on the adventure and you help. And Transformers even more so. You're an evac. And now evac and this car full of humans, they rise up and they take out Megatron or

whatever. We're proud of you. We're proud of you. You did it. You're my son. You, Michael. You, I love you. I love you. I'm Optimus Prime. Big, deep, breathy kiss. Your bravery. Your bravery

earned you this kiss. This little kiss on the cheek. Michael. Another thing. Somebody can't be a Peter Cullen cameo where he says that to me. Does he do that? Smackaroo. He's got to do that.

Another thing that is in both the Islands of Adventure Marvel and the California Adventure Marvel is the presence of an adventure marvel and the california adventure marvel is the presence of superheroes on like uh extreme vehicle on like trucks and sports vehicles because that that weird like truck like characters are standing on that truck that they had driving around like california adventure for the summer of heroes uh promotion and that truck's just parked there that's where i got the picture of like, look, it's Loki on his famous car. And it's just like,

why is the god of mischief standing in the bed of a truck? It's like a really low budget parade. This is a local parade. It's like a Chatsworth parade. I marched in as a Boy Scout. It's still not as funny as like the X-Men

showing up on ATVs in Islands of Adventure. Well, that's what I'm referring to. That's their vehicle. No, I know that. I'm saying it's just not as funny. It's not as funny. It's still funny,

but it's not as funny as all of a sudden you're like, why is Cyclops on like a vehicle you would see like people in Tampa driving on the beach with? Like what? I mean, I guess we're not skiing. That's for the locals.

That's to relate to the locals. Because I know the X-Men have a cool vehicle. The Blackbird is their jet. That's true. And they've decided to come here. And in the Phoenix Saga or the Dark Phoenix Saga, Cyclops is driving a very big car, like a Rolls Royce or a Maybach. And it's like we have to drive into the city. And they're driving this insane chauffeur car. At least in the first is the first x-men movie wolverine borrows his bike

his motor that's right yeah so that the fox of course the fox produced x-men movies um so there's a lot of you have funny vehicles uh and did we get oh yeah real quick with web web slingers a spider-man adventure uh there was a lot of uh discourse around the additional items you could buy to upgrade your experience on the ride uh i i saw people had them i did not see anyone in line with them yeah and i we didn't buy them i'm tempted to do it because i people it's funny because online people are like oh oh, Disney and their commercialism. And you're like, yeah, Disney. Yes. Have you been not paying attention for a century?

It's like, well, paying DLC, like real live DLC, essentially. And you're like, yeah, but I don't know. This is one of the least egregious things to me that Disney, like jacking the price up crazy over a decade and like icing out like you know people like uh middle-class families like that's worse than like paying 30 to get like iron man's gauntlet i don't know that's cool to me or uh yeah and i said this to jason i was like if they sold like cyclops's visor We'd be climbing over each other. Jason would be wearing the visor right now. We would be doing the whole podcast wearing his visor,

his famous visor to keep his optic blasts from destroying everything around him. Well, I like visors, so I'd probably do it too. Sure. So, I don't know. I kind of think that's cool, honestly.

Because if I was a kid, I would be like, oh, I can buy the thing that my hero has and I can take it home and then I can bring it back to the park. And like that gives me a special power. That actually is a cool idea to me. It's like Harry Potter and the wands. And sure, this all this these things happen over and over again. That's this is like agree or disagree with a theme park Twitter discourse.

It is full of do you not remember that this happened six months ago or two years ago or ten years ago or fifty years ago. But I'm mad now. I need a post now. I'm going to roll this into a discussion about the merchandise

in the land. There's only two outlets in the land and they're pretty small. It's Web Suppliers, which is across from Web Slingers and Spider-Man Adventure and then Avenger, Campus Supply Pod.

But Scott, if you look at that recruits guide that I handed you, you'll notice that it says outside the land, back lot shop, stage 17.

This is a massive big box store size Marvel clearing house. And i walked by a cast it's a costco you need a membership it's a costco base wait this is the thing this is the thing the place that depressed me during their holiday yeah it's it's i i think it's it's awesome because it's got uh uh movie marvel stuff it's got theme Marvel stuff, and it's got comic book Marvel stuff. And I walked by a cast member going like, yeah, anything that's for sale in the land is for sale in here,

and I don't know why they're not telling people that enough. Because it's huge, and there's so much stuff. And this is where I saw the X-Men represented in the form of $600 statues of Gambit, Colossus, and Cyclops. And even though I had my fixed legacy passholder discount, I $600 statues of Gambit, Colossus, and Cyclops. Now we're talking.

Even though I had my fixed Legacy Passholder discount, I was like, if I buy a $600 statue of Cyclops, there's no coming back from that. First off, there's either no coming back from that. My girlfriend would probably throw it at me. Like, what are you doing and also i know as a regular comic book store patron there's plenty good like 50 cyclops statues i could get but i was like oh man that does look cool but i just cannot do this well we'll talk after i well

oh okay no that sounds like i'm gonna steal steal it. I'm not going to steal it. You're like the collector. I am. I relate to Tanalier. He's not a villain to you. No, Tanalier and I are the same. Yeah, Tanalier and I. We're the same.

So I did not make it in this big warehouse. I didn't actually even realize it was there. I just went in the tiny version. And there's not a ton in there. There's some cool little chemistry set kind of thing that i probably would have liked as a kid and they're selling a lot of these spider bots and i will say that the premise of the ride that the spider bots are out of control there are spider bots all over the land which is fun there's like you know they're caught in a web and they're like buzzing over the

bathrooms um and there's like you know they're they're keeping that fun narrative going. And what's the goo? Before all this opened, when I went on Guardians, there's goo on the ground. What's with the goo? Oh, the goo. We got to talk about the goo. Yeah, let's talk about the goo.

I saw people online referring to it as Kirby Crackle, which is a comic book term that refers to Jack Kirby when he would draw something pulsing with energy. It was like a colored energy surrounded by black dots to denote it's powerful. It's very pop-arty. It's a big part of 60s Marvel. This did not

look like Kirby Crackle to me. It just looked kind of like generic space goo or geodes. It is colorful, and I do like it, but I'm like, that's not Kirby Crackle. It's not authentic Kirby Crackle for sure if it was the building it would be like scattered about the building or the building would be pulsing with it which I think they should do

with projection effects they can't be Kirby Crackle in the world of the attraction or of the land what is it like meant to be well oh from a narrative standpoint I believe Joe Rohde mentioned this before he left well it was before he left for space, where he actually went to space. Where he lives now.

It was the idea, the narrative reason that that Guardian's spaceship, building, museum, whatever combination of it is. The idea is that it's just now all of a sudden come out and appeared. All of a sudden it came and planted itself. Oh. come out and appeared on the like all of a sudden it came and like planted itself oh and i think that's like the energy signature like it's it's left like some you know transport goo or whatever was it always there i thought it was new or no it is new it is it used to be that big avengers like uh lock yeah kind of vault thing and now it's open open. They open it up, you know? Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, so the goo is new. The goo is new.

The goo is loose. Goo. Goo. Goo. What was that episode? Why are we talking about goo punch? Goo punch. I think, was that a Patreon, maybe?

No, that was Nickelodeon. Well, the first one we talked to my brother and me, which we had a... It was in Fake Doc Brown. Yeah, yeah. And then on Patreon, we watched the famous episode where Goo fantasizes

about having his own punch, his own brand of punch. On my brother and me. That made me laugh so much. It's so good. If you haven't seen it, just Google Goo Punch and it's so funny.

And go to the Patreon, obviously, to hear our thoughts about Goo Punch. Yes, that too. Did you get to try any Goo Punch at the Femdesk kitchen? Oh, yeah. Let's talk food.

Is Goo part of the? That's fake. Goo, the character from My Brother and Me, is not in the Marvel Universe. Goo is not in, but Goop. Goom? Goop. Goop is. Oh, there's some Grump Altra's in it.

No, Doop. Doop. Doop. No. Goom, I think, is of jack herbie's old monster dicko monster i don't know i forget there's references in the web slingers we'll save more web slingers stuff yeah yeah that's fine we'll do it we'll come back around once we can ride it a few times but it's fun check it out so food okay we got breakfast this was at fucking chaotic test

kitchen and this is a lot you know covid protocols it's all mobile order basically there but there are standby lines yeah there are standby lines for the pym test testing lab okay the pym testing lab is the bar the test kitchen is the restaurant god there's one of these there's two testing labs yeah The testing lab is a bar. Yeah, separate. They're connected. They're connected. But it's separate app ordering. It's separate app ordering. And I asked someone who was there opening day, like, can you just walk up and pay at a register? And they went, it was unclear.

And I was like, oh, you never want to hear that. That's never the answer you want. But we could tell, at least the day we were there, one line was mobile order pickup, one line was, you know, just walk up and order food. So that was mobile pickup. One line was, you know, Stan would just walk up and order food. So that was pretty clear. Yes.

But we weren't sure. We walked on Guardians. That was nice. Yeah, it was great. And of course, Rocket is not... So Zach and Nicole, they have not been on Guardians before, but Rocket, of course, is not working. Like, they're not doing it. So we had to do the whole show

for him. There's a QR code you can scan in there. You scan? That does scan. Thankfully scanned. My hands don't scan the code. You hear about my hand scans. Scan the QR code. That's going to launch

the Disneyland app, and then it's like you're doing a messaging DMs back and forth with Rocket, and he explains about the gantry lift in your hand scanning. It's actually a pretty cute little. Hey, if you wanted to play Disney app, you can play as well as enjoy. There's two different apps. Okay, there's two different apps. Play Disney and then mobile order at Pym Test Kitchen, not the Pym Testing Labs.

That's two different places. Paradise Gardens Park is different than Pixar Pier, which is different than Paradise Pier Hotel. Country lift. Yeah. And also, if you click on the mobile order, if you click on it on the map in the app, it does have two arrows pointing at the test kitchen and the testing lab. It's a little, yeah, it is a little crazy, but we were like, we got to try and find slots.

We are at opening day. Slots ran out in the morning for the whole day. And we're like, well, we want to eat something. Like we were all pretty hungry and then in the line for guardians we just refresh refresh and slots started appearing yeah so i checked i was checking in line i just started ordering things yeah we just got one of a few things and then i was checking and i was like guys i got a slot for drinks everyone put your drink order in it's 11 it's 11 a.m oh yeah that's how hey

monday morning 11 a.m let's drink love it love it galaxy's edge drinking that blue wine at 8 50 a.m the earliest i have ever drank and hopefully that stat continues hopefully i do not upslide to first thing when i wake up we'll see because in our experience pim particles are um sugar contents with what we ended up eating oh yeah a good way to start the day get that energy um wait okay so whatever what would you get to have a pim test kitchen featuring impossible or pim testing labs well we'll get to the impossibles well so i had the ever-expanding sinipim toast which is a long like cartoony strip of like uh uh kind of french toast kind of bread pudding with two or three strips of of bacon a side of maple syrup i did not get the little test tube shot glass of maple

syrup i just was handed a regular thing of maple syrup um and it was tasty it was pretty good like i really i liked it a lot um so i i would recommend that mike you and lindsey had some of the egg dishes yes and i'm trying to find my my order of uh one of which is is plant-based egg a lot of plant-based stuff yes they have a lot and impossible is sponsoring the impossible meat yeah it's so prominently time in the park maybe or the first prominent really prominent time in the park um wait wait we got to remind people i mean i'm sure we've said it but the whole the premise of pym test right so hank pym is michael douglas character from ant-man he's the original ant-man

um and yeah scott lang is Paul Rudd. Of course, Scott is the original. Oh, he says Scott in this? Great. He says it nonstop. Yeah, in the first two Ant-Men is that Michael Douglas says Scott over and over again, like behind the can of labra. So maybe those would be your two favorite movies,

just for that reason. I like that personal touch, like with Optimus Prime. Yeah, I like that personal touch like with Optimus Prime. Yeah, I like hearing Michael Douglas say my name. Exactly. So yeah, I got the... Do you have the names of all of it in front of you

or no? No, but Scott does. Oh, I do. Scott does in the Recurrence Guide. But the whole thing... So it's like... It's experiments so everything is sized bizarrely.

Yeah, stuff is either really... Like there's a really... There's a pasta dish that comes with one really big meatball and one small meatball in a tiny little fork for a place that's stressing the environmental message. Cause I'll get to, I'll get to the environmental stuff. Another part of the land describes the environmental stuff.

They sure do give you a lot of little plastic things to throw out that you might not even use when you eat, but they have paper straws uh lindsey had the calculated breakfast equals e times two plus b plus p uh slat divided by t which is you know uh eggs and potato bites and toast that sounds like it's not even the size it's just a weird name yeah and i had basically the same thing the impossible quantum garden breakfast um but it was all plant-based and i will say lindsey's was uh better than mine okay i like impossible meat the impossible a if impossible eggs was like kind of eating uh like like a washcloth that had been flavored.

I don't even, that sounds too harsh. It was just, it wasn't my favorite. The Impossible Sausage was better. And again, I like Impossible Meat in general. I think that it was just not maybe the warmest it could have been. But I had some of Lindsay's. It was good. Look, this is all fine.

This is all fast service theme park stuff. It dressed up in a fun way. Yeah. And so there's... Okay, this is a whole thing. But there's very little seating at both Pym establishments. And after everyone left, I learned that there is tons of seating in what was the queue lines for the Hyperion Theater. There's tons of stuff.

If you walk over there, yeah. But no one, as Mike was waiting for the last thing, lindsey and i are like awkwardly holding things of trace no one is telling us hey there's a million seats just down the street we're like looking for tables and i gotta say there's plenty of cast members clearing tables but one thing that i was really hoping for was a recent theme park innovation that I think Universal had first. It was like, okay, team member sees you, you've ordered your food or you have your food. How many?

I'll take you to a table. They were not doing that. There was a lot of cast members just standing around and like, it was a little the Wild West. It was a little like, can someone tell me what to do? Yeah, yeah. There was a lot, yeah. That's, look, they'll work that out i think um yeah they they could have tables like kind of by the like fast pass

for guard there there there's spots that you could fit more tables yes um inside i'll say this inside the pym test kitchen there's from some fun little g. There's like big ketchup and mustard bottles. Yes, which are Bountiful Valley Farm branded. The land that was there before. Yes, that's right. The original California Adventure. That's right. Very fun. We are boring.

How far we've come. Yeah. From like several tractors in like a broken hose. To like the most popular IP on the planet. Yeah, boy. Really worked out for DCA. Yeah. And then there's like, you know, they show there's a big pretzel, which I did not get to eat.

But there's a famously big pretzel. And you enter and there's a conveyor belt where they grow. Yeah. They make the pretzels big. Because, yeah, because Pim, Hank Pim is, you know, he has shrinking technology. He has growing technology. And he is now using it to make quick service meals for theme park patrons. I'm sorry.

I got to stop. The official names are Pym Test Kitchen and Pym Tasting Lab. But Tasting Lab only has one snack, one or two snacks. It's mostly drinks. You don't think of it as tasting. I guess it's a tasting menu. I guess it's mostly drinks so you're think of it as tasting i guess it's a tasting menu i guess it's still staying but it's it's it's a little it's a little taste of beer all right put your arms in the air and you know but it was scan you know if there was like a performer playing hank pym you know be like do you want to taste scott do you want to taste like then then we're

talking i think but like it's just they're full they're full portions yeah yeah i guess i'd be a little creeped out but do you want to taste scott do you want to taste scott scott do you want to taste yeah scott um so let me i'll say this i ordered also for breakfast the choco smash oh boy which is uh it's fun it's got a uh like a wrapper outside that says it's like one ounce but of course it's a giant it's massive candy bar candy bar um and there's a big there's a big choco smash like uh a big one over by that seating area and it says fun sized even though it's like eight feet tall and 12 feet wide this is bite size bite size yeah yeah and it's got caramel nougat peanuts brownie dark chocolate and lindsey and i loved it oh boy it was

fantastic and there's all there's like layers to it and we were chopping it's a little hard it was like the caramel probably or the nougat was hard to chop through jason i will say having a hell of a time cutting through it and he was not pleased i gotta say no the nougat was the nougat and peanut butter were great very soft the brownie not very flavorful the caramel was like pulling my teeth you were upset i was upset like we were eating this going this is delicious dessert and jason was like really mad i was mad because like i had also just like loaded up on uh uh i loaded up on sugar on french toast i love my sweets and i was like oh my god i'm gonna eat this candy bar and then i'm gonna get a sugar beer cocktail i'm gonna feel like shit in a little while i know i'm gonna feel

like shit but i want to taste this stuff were you worried i was gonna pull a tooth out of your head i did but i did like a tooth like a bit down on something there and i was like with a candy bar i don't know it's caramel or it was like a burnt piece of bacon or something but i was i was like oh no because you did this is what happens when you set i was like i don't know it's true i was like it's chewy but i don't know it was just. Like, most of it was so soft, and then this caramel was, like, so thick. So the caramel, like, slapped you in the face is, I guess, what you were surprised. Yeah, kind of. You've never been surprised by caramel before?

I've been surprised by caramel plenty. I feel like Twix caramel has really fallen off in recent years. Don't get me started. But, yeah, no, I think it's good. You got to have a few people for this. This is overwhelming. Yeah, yeah. This is not a single side.

Like four people probably. We split, of course, between three people because Zach and Nicole ran away from us because I think they were like, we got to do everything else. They wanted to have fun. Yeah. I kept saying, this is important.

We have to do this. Eat this impossible to eat nougat yeah eat the hard nougat eat the hard nougat and tell us what you think uh so yeah i would recommend four i mean five five people a family could easily split this and feel very satisfied having a little like a nice little dessert it also felt like it was interesting because it was um i'm sure it was made by like in-house like they make their treats like you see in the window on Main Street in the confectionery. But they had put it in this fun candy wrapper. Because I honestly didn't even know.

I was like, oh, I wonder if they got milky. Wait a minute. I'm like, oh, no. This is probably made in the bakery. Anyway, so I was a big fan of that. You didn't have the opportunity to get the giant sandwich this this recently jason was so upset when i even dollar sandwich there's a hundred dollar sandwich and even when i suggested it jason was upset okay i'm set at the idea of it

again i feel like if you listen to the second gate you know i very revealed i felt so self-conscious i was like oh i am revealing i have very particular food tastes and this sandwich i saw a review saying like this sandwich is not worth it i think i saw a couple reviews people saying like this sandwich is not jason searched a hundred dollar sandwich not worth it to find this review to justify need reasons no i was just reading the 15 one like review but i was also flashing back to, this is the thing that was very common at theme park, cafeteria style restaurants in the 90s,

like a pizza sandwich, and it was always disappointing. Like pepperoni and salami. I was like, oh, this has just come back around. They're just trying to do pizza sandwich again. I'm like, the only thing that's ever satisfying is the Sbarro inside out pizza. That is delicious. That's a full day's worth of calories.

I've never had that. Oh, it's awesome. What is that? Oh, it's where like there's crust on like all the sides and inside it's like sausage, pepperoni, cheese. So is it like a pizone? No, but it's triangle shape. They break it in the pizza shape and slice it into slices. I can't even picture that.

That concept is confusing to me um so yeah i twice tried to soft tell you maybe we should get the hundred dollar sandwich and split it and both times you shut me down the second time i'm not i'm not falling for pizza sandwich again i really wanted the big chicken sandwich and the mobile ordering situation was just not on our side uh sure sure but uh yeah the night before i was like no that big sandwich and that's when you hit me with like i read reviews on the text we know the touring plans posts and they said do not get this sandwich and i called len up and len said the sandwich was bad he has three different touring plans employees len had a good joke about like why did they make

all the bread blue like and i kind of was wondering the same thing but it was fun you know i didn't see the joke what's the joke just pointing out like oh yeah that blue bread looks great like it's it does kind of like if you think about blue bread you're like oh that bread has gone bad but in the story it's like oh they're doing science and you know science is blue i don't i'm withholding my judgment on this i was watching the video before the opening ceremony and aaron my wife was like this place is infuriating i do not like one bit she didn't like the size nonsense no she was each one made her angrier and angrier a big meatball and a little meatball i what's the other crazy i mean the

chicken thing i do want that chicken it looks good and i love stuff covered in sauce it's got a lot of sauce if you haven't seen it there's a very little bun on a giant piece of chicken yeah yeah and that's just old good old-fashioned fun i think that's but i'm so excited to go back and have the chicken sandwich. How are these cocktails? Oh. Is that going to get me in? I agree.

I really liked it. We have, we got to keep the little plastic, they come in like beakers that say Pim on it so you get a little souvenir plastic glass which is fun.

Yeah. Mine was like Mango Cart, Golden Roads, famous Mango Cart beer and then tequila and then boba, boba bubble, popping bubbles. The only thing was a lot of ice in it. And so I got to wait for the ice to melt for the boba popping bubbles.

If only I had my official annual pass holder bamboo straw I was given at the tasting terrace i could have gotten to the popping bubbles much easier you get a straw for being a legacy pass these are the perks we'll go through this pile of freebies i got at the alfresco tasting i should have gone up there i'm a little upset that i didn't get that but also look these we're ooh liquor concoctions and we do we did as pym dare to weave his magic like listen i'm gonna go get a glass of wine i'm gonna get real drinks several steps away well they do non-complicated no you can get regular beer and wine you can get regular beer okay and the beer i didn't get a chance to see it i should have thought to just order a single beer but the

beaker like proprietary cups i think are set up in such a way they have these devices where like you can they put it on a thing and i think the bottom pops out a little yeah it fills from the bottom that that's that's fun yeah that kind of got aaron beckinport she's like hanging on by it that's the only thing getting her to that's what that's what I'm saying. You hang out around the PIM, what is it called? Tasting Lab. Tasting Lab. And then you'll, yeah, have like a cocktail. And then I'm sure at night, especially, you look at the Guardians Tower.

You know, you're having a nice little time. I think so. This all seems like maybe you wait it out and do it in a less stressful. There's no protocols. It seems like it was all too much that it's the opening opening day madness mix of the protocols and the ride is cool but it's also a thing you got to learn and you got to get there right away and you got to wake up and get the reservation it seems like if you're able to fold this into the chillest park the most relaxed right like the most resorty vacationy of all the parks it i think once this place gets up to or slows down

to dca speed yeah oh a hundred percent yeah because like a big thing since we're in this neck of the woods um they've they've annexed guardians which storyline yeah it's supposed to be in this part of the park but now for the moment you can only get to guardians through avengers campus so guardians i we walked on it and then after they left i waited 15 minutes and wrote it again and they should just put the end of the lamb land at the the tasting lab and and annex the guardians and the shawarma palace 2 and the terran treats into hollywood for right now so people can get at least a little marvel just walking around because that's a huge attraction eating up people and not a lot of people are going to ride it because especially because it's a you know and i don't think i'm insulting it by saying the spider-man ride is like a sea ticket ride it's

like mater's it's like luigi's dancing car attraction is it that level wow i, it's like Luigi's dancing car attraction. Is it that level? Wow. I mean, it's- No, I think it's a little better. It's certainly more high budget or whatever. Yeah. That doesn't mean if you- I'm not even- The tickets, that's not even an insult. That's just a matter of, that's like the scope and kind of the wow factor and what it's intended

to be. I know what you're saying. It's more expensive, but I think it's that level of, and I like both of those cars. I like the Mater thing and I like the Luigi thing. Oh, I do too. Yeah. But the fact that it's not a like but it's not like a blowout crazy ride like i don't i mean it's like the falcon opening opening day it is but the falcon the falcon i should say falcon because that's what han solo says uh yeah the falcon though that is trying i mean yeah that's what

everyone can i will say i agree with because i'm like i read all this discourse there's some people that are like no you don't be mean to avengers campus in this ride because this is sort of the low-key ride and this isn't the big one i'm trying not to be the same as the millennium falcon and i'm like the money the money is a different story the millennium falcon is a high level attraction like that is a major i know it's not supposed to be maybe as impressive as rise of the resistance but like that's not mater's junkyard jamboree or whatever the hell it's called that's like a like knock you out like you're sitting in the goddamn cockpit of the millennium falcon like yeah yeah i mean spider-man ride you get to see everyone's

friend spider-man and that's kind of nice uh i like that it's got that going for it so but yeah it's not the cockpit of the millennium falcon yeah no it's i'm just saying yeah that's the millennium when people are comparing the two of them i'm like that's not the same yeah yeah right being in the millennium falcon cockpit is like a transformative like oh my god moment for a fan of star wars it's the whole it's the it's it's all a really great experience until the actual thing starts and and which sounds like a big insult because you were you're there for the thing but that you know the yeah the cockpit is great and the you're in the lobby what is it called yeah the i don't know the commons area the money falcon

you see the blankets on the Millennium Falcon. Game room. I wish that was, we had more time in there. Pondo is great. It's like, seeing it up from the outside, I don't, if I've been too negative on Smuggler's Run ever, like, it is everything until the four minutes that you do, and even that is not, like, so awful. It's just not what, it doesn't top everything that came before it, that is not like so awful it's just not what it doesn't um top everything

that came before it which is a bizarre syndrome for a ride the if the indiana jones adventure was like a little less good than the queue that'd be strange yeah exactly and it's like it doesn't i've said we've said this before it's like there's there's moments on star tours the new version where you're like oh man that's so great you get caught in that thing's mouth, and you do this, and it's just sort of missing some of that. And again, I think they do a new ride video because you can change it, and it could probably be elevated to what our imaginations.

My argument to, yeah, hey, you can't judge Avengers Campus in this way, and look, because's, you know, because it's similar to this thing. These are buildings. Nobody's, I think you can say whatever you want about any of it. I don't think there will be feelings of it.

People were doing good job. Don't get me wrong. I think people were saying like, all right, don't be like gleeful in your like criticism. I think it's fair to be tough on this stuff because it it's also fucking expensive to go right now it's not an annual pass so like you want to get your money for it sure yeah yeah yeah it is bizarre to be in this scenario where you might like you may have bought a pass for this day to go do

experiences that you might not get to do or it it requires a lot of stress to do them. And some of that is good. I think they're doing the best they can, but it's certainly not an ideal situation on this week as we talk about this place. They should have waited for later in the summer or the fall to open this stuff. Yeah, do it with a little less red tape. I'm going to swing positive now.

Oh, I was ready. I was ready to swing right there with you oh boy uh i so uh you know after they all you know went over to disneyland i hung out in the land for a while um was driven insane by psychological warfare from uh alan sylvestri's beautiful music um did guardians again and then i was like i'm not hungry right now but a thing that usually travels well is a shawarma wrap so i'll get one and i'll get it in a bag um and and i'll walk around a little and and eat it somewhere more peaceful i'll eat it in uh grizzly peak um so i had new york's tastiest chicken shawarma wrap with coconut yogurt tahini sauce.

I don't know why they call it that. It's clearly tzatziki sauce. It just has a coconut yogurt base. It might have tahini in it. And it was good. I thought the shawarma was good. Because it's, like, ready to go, there's not, like, if you go to a usual shawarma place, there's, like, a ton of, you know, cabbage and peppers and pickles and stuff like that.

But there are vegetables in like the sauce and the sauce is very flavorful. The pictures of the sauce online, frankly, look disgusting. But it was really tasty and traveled well. So I kind of saw it. Yeah, that is like it might not on a hot day. That's a coconut yogurt base. That's in a bag for a while. It's a coconut yogurt base. It's not a dairy base.

So I think it holds together a little more. With theme park food, that is a wild thought. I'm going to get this and put it in a bag and hold it for a while. Like, that is dangerous. That was a big risk. That's dangerous. It seems like it worked out, but that could have gone real south. That's like putting the arc reactor in your chest.

That's right. Level Tony Stark danger. Whatever it takes, Michael. Whatever it takes. have gone real that's like putting the arc reactor in your chest that's right level tony stark danger whatever it takes michael whatever it takes we kept texting each other those pictures yeah we did i did that too um uh i liked no i thought it was very good well because i knew it was just seasoned chicken and pita and the sauce i was like well the sauce doesn't taste good i'll toss the sauce and just eat the chicken and pita i thought it was pretty good i think it's a great walk around food i didn't try the falafel and i did not risk getting a cream puff uh to travel around but i was just between the beer cocktail and the french toast and the um uh uh the candy bar i was like i cannot eat something else sweet i have to save save this. That's a ton. Oh, my gosh. That is a lot.

I had clam chowder in New Orleans Square later because I was pretty full. Bold choice. Bold choice. I just needed a little something. It was a little chilly. It was getting chilly that day. What was the positive thing you were going to say? The spider.

Look, the dummy, the robot, whatever. The stuntronic, whatever they call it, is awesome. Yeah, it's great. That is a highlight of the whole thing. Now, is that a show that you line up for? Okay, let's talk about this. It's hard. Okay.

So, a thing I saw going around was people saying, you know, it's pop-up shows. It just, like, action starts happening around you. But then I also saw people saying, if you ask cast members, when does this happen? They will not tell you. Or they do not, they have a rough estimate. And that sucks.

And I feel like this is a thing theme parks have been doing with these like little pop-up shows or event show stuff. Where I think Ray and Chewie wandering through Galaxy's Edge, I think that's really fun. This, what happens when Black Panther

and Black Widow fight Taskmaster or Spider-Man tests out his new suit, is that people go like in a movie, hey, there's Spider-Man, and rush the pathways and fill the pathways. Yeah, there's not a ton of room to see it, because the whole show happens on the top

of the web... What's the name of it the worldwide engineering brigade well yeah okay the web yeah worldwide engineering brigade building the circuit city building so that happens the whole on the top of it and that walkway sort of into avengers campus is pretty narrow so and he goes he's like walking the whole length of the whole building so you gotta like move to see the whole thing it's it's tough to see it because you want because he goes she starts over here and i think they're doing that so you can you know everybody gets a little taste of that spider-man fun but everybody

wants to watch the whole show so like i found we were like trying to cram together to try to get around to see we saw kanye on the stage where he's above you and then the whole crowd moves like the sea yes yeah very stressful at times and and there's a lot of built in seating into the landscaping and planners that are covered in do not sit social distancing a lot of that's first week so like it'll be different i mean like the dress it's that i compare this to the dragon and digon alley where it's like the the flying because so basically if you don't know we're talking about uh there's a little show where there's an actual stunt performer he gets on wires he's doing some like crazy stuff where he's hanging from you know three stories in the air and he does it around like iconic spider-man hanging upside down with like

your feet together yeah and that's that's pretty fun that's fun if i was a kid i love that and love it now uh and then they disney developed this thing you can see it online where they dress essentially like a crash test dummy like a high level crash test dummy and fly him through the air like he's spider-man swinging on a web and he he goes very high he lands very impressive uh and that feels like yeah they're like dragon and diagon alley where you're like that's kind of the thing you got to see like i haven't seen that in a park because like it looks like a human being it looks like he's just flying in here and he's gonna land and kill himself it's pretty crazy to see it i wonder where it goes what is the backstage it's a good

question stage and it's a good question stage and it's a good question because like i it's very impressive because i i don't know if anybody is pointing it like i'm sure there's some vantage point where you can see where it lands but there's not a good one i'll tell you a great vantage point to see it the alfresco tasting terrace because i got to see it up there i was thinking like can i see spider-man from up here and then suddenly just looking in that direction you just see spider-man jump into the sky and it was awesome it is cool as hell it was to see it out from elevate like that was a nice little hit uh of the campus and then stage 17 i think like if you want some marvel stuff uh i think it's super fun.

Yeah, they need to fling more dummies in the air at Disney. That's what I think. It was, yeah. Mickey, Goofy. Yes. There's Fly. Yeah, Tinkerbell, I mean, she's famously, like, is on that rope or that line at the end of the firework show. Oh, they should just fly.

Just catapult her from the Matterhorn into the castle indiana jones yeah oh no um the more catapults i assume that's how they do this is a catapult the the other shows the door melange show the performers are great audience was really into it um that's a black panthers yeah yeah yeah they they were already in california adventure a little um so they they do a little just a quick little thing but they're they're out wandering around a lot the suits are all really great and i know this is important to fans of it and kids and everything you get like such quality this is so not theme park costumes have come a really long way yes for sure it's not it's

certainly better than the islands of adventure stuff uh you're like it is funny because like iron man you're not going to get a perfect like it's got to be yeah but it's i mean they're doing their best they can i don't know yeah that our man might be the roughest one yeah um but but i will say this to praise the land all All the characters you like are there. And in my talk, am I also throwing shade at galaxy edge a little bit? Cause it's like, I think there's a plaque somewhere in the land that says like,

this is where all the friends, like all the friends can meet here from any time. Like there's sort of a thing to like blanket say like, eh, don't worry too much about the timeline. Cause you see everybody, you see captain America. You can you can see Loki both Captain America Steve Rogers and

Sam Wilson Anthony Mackie yes who just recently debuted as Captain America on TV not in the comics that was a few years ago during the Rick Remender run Jason is that correct I think that's right it was when Captain America was well Bucky Barnes took over when Captain America was presumed dead It was when Captain America was... Well, Bucky Barnes took over when Captain America was presumed dead.

Of course. Yes, of course. And then when Captain America was aged up and became Commander Rogers, Falcon took over. Right. Because Rick sent him into a different universe to live 30 years or something at a time. Something like that. Something like that. Anyway.

Fake. All of it was fake. All of it was fake. So, yeah. You get all the heroes.'re all there there's constant heroes there's constant things happening and that's really like when and i know it's a much smaller land than galaxy's edge but it's like and i and like you go oh good like this is right this have to be constantly here whereas galaxy's edge is so much empty space with those shows the catwalks i like that social distancing i have this awesome picture from uh my return to galaxy's edge where

of chewy like it was like perfectly in the sunset like putting up a fist victoriously like from up as if he's like giving an election speech while people cheered him on from below. And I'm like, this is great. They're using social distancing is causing these catwalks to be used finally. And maybe can Marvel inspire that stuff to happen a little more? There was never a time when there wasn't something going on. Like Spider-Man does his whole show and he flies. And then he comes down and does like photos with people.

And then Captain America comes out and iron man comes out and they come iron man comes out of like a utility door on the avengers and oh hey what up he does kind of come out of like yeah the bathroom not the garage door but that regular door next to the garage door like yeah um and then the what we were sitting down and drinking i I had the, I forgot. I had that marshmallow stuff. The wasp just like went up to like the second level, just roaming around. She's just kind of like leaning against the band. Yeah, they're all just kind of up there,

like checking in. She walks over. We're like, hey, wasp. But she's like, waves at us. We're like, yeah, hey. We saw, I saw it up close after you left, but when we were sitting down, we saw the Black Widow fighting Taskmaster and some of his heavies.

And then Black Panther joins in as well. This is kind of a character people haven't really experienced in the movies yet. Taskmaster is an assassin who can learn anyone's fighting style by looking at them fight and has all the Avengers weapons to some extent. He has a big kooky skull face in the comics and kind of has a skull face in this. But this is kind of Black Widow.

They're doing synergy with the new movie, basically. So Black Widow is coming out. The movie's coming out. So she fights the villain that she's fighting in the movie. Having things that are precursors to things that haven't come out,

that's pretty neat. That's fun. The stunt fighters were all great. They tried to program, I think they programmed way too many hit sound effects because there was two fights going on at once

and the hits weren't correct. The performers were doing great. There's a thing thing and i missed it because it's it's hard a little bit to see some of the action but there was a there's a they do a stunt and when where one of the goons is like fighting black widow and she like kicks him or something and they do the like pull back on a rig of some kind where like the performer like shoots back and i was like i didn't even see that live but i was watching the video of it i was like oh yeah that's good um so yeah it's constant it's constant characters and they're all there and and in case everyone star wars galaxy's edge i want all the characters i want ray kylo finn there

but i also want all other six movies yeah like i'm not like that guy. That rabbit, the walking around giant rabbit that was in the comics. Jackson, yes. Yeah. He was a Marvel Comics exclusive green rabbit that was in the Star Wars universe named Jackson. And he's not Bucky O'Hare. He's not Bucky O'Hare. He's not this green rabbit. This doesn't seem fake to me. He's not that green rabbit.

Jackson is his name. Jackson. And I have a figure of him pre-ordered. Congratulations. Yeah, this isn't like like go back to the old prequels are better you just that's everything yeah yeah i know which new character mandalorian is gonna be in there so much as soon as they figure out how to do it it's just all bets are off like mandalorian i feel like just like chased all the weirdness away like here's one we can all

agree on and it'll probably be like we've heard the rumors in paris a lot apparently and yeah oh yeah they have all those costumes from the hyperspace hoopla and just bring them out i want those guys in there too they have like the figure and dan and the modal nodes costumes for god's sake why aren't why would you not absolutely yeah like like there's just have Have them around. It's... Batuu is Star Wars heaven. It's where they all live, whether or not they're dead or alive.

It's unclear. Yeah. Just who truly... Who would... Like, the kind of people who would care, like, will get to do their Twitter rants and like, all right, you have your fun. I will have the fun. Yeah.

Of seeing Darth Maul and kylo like sharon aronto but but gavin's edge what they do really well is like you're on this planet this is the soundscape the music of this planet sure the the soundscape of avengers campus is like all over the map like i like like i said the first, the... First off, I think Spider-Man, when he comes down for photo ops, will talk to people, but so much of the voices are recorded. Like, when, like,

Cat Marvel was talking to kids, taking pictures, she was talking, but, like, a lot of it's, like, you know, they're playing recorded lines and stuff, which is probably, hey, you can be in the cheaper union not that more expensive union um for performers i think is why they're doing dr strange talks

yeah dr strange talks because dr strange does like a legit magic show for you which is cool i like but like it's interesting because spider-man is tom holland's voice the iron man is as lindsey kept saying like sounds like dr evil he's like well hey there hey there pepper is pepper around like like this we're like trying to it might not be that but it just sounded like a little odd in the land it's it's like with spider-man it's like it is tom holland which is great but it almost feels like it'd be fun if if spider-man was free to do some crowd work up there if he was was free to do a little, like point out something, you know,

so, but I don't know. That's not, you don't have to do that note, but yeah, depending. Doctor Strange is a legit magician. The guy they have playing him,

or everyone they have playing him. That's cool. And his costume is good. Here's one of the weirdest things I saw, which is the ruins that dr strange performs in this is really cool like mirrored orb and stuff there's an optical illusion if you take a photo right it looks like the ground below you is warping and then there's this like little uh outdoor standing room like area where you watch dr strange come out on a little performance space and there's a plasma

like tv there's a 4k screen behind these doors he comes out of so we can do like conjuring stuff um dormammu on it yeah and you see dormammu the bad guy on it momu is a big like demon character okay yeah so i was not so it's really intimate and really tight, and they did seemingly pack people into that. I was not going to venture into that close of crowds, but I was on the outskirts by the big orb, and I was like, hey, I got a pretty good view of the pseudo stage from here. Doctor Strange comes out.

His mic is down so low. I can't hear him. I can hear Alan Silvestri's music so loud, and then I can hear the Spider-Man dialogue. And I'm so far away from the Spider-Man, but I'm so close to Doctor Strange, I can't hear him. This is bad production. They gotta tweak this. They'll tweak that, I'm sure. We'll both figure this out.

I didn't see the Doctor Strange strange show live because we were waiting around for a while and i was like spider-man's happened like two or three times and i've seen um uh what's the ceremony that the black panther guards do called do they have a name for that oh i'm not sure if it has a ceremony some of this stuff just isn't on the maps like the happening kind of at the very least it should be like you if you have to ask a cast member they go well it's at 2 15 yeah it should be like regimented of like it's every half an hour or it's every once an hour you know um so uh so yeah i did not so we did not see the doctor strange i watched it on youtube and i was like oh this is cool yeah this this works uh because he's doing like a magic show and it's tied into like, you know, Doctor Strange lore or whatever.

Yeah. And he's got the vibe down. He's not trying to do the American accent like too hard. Benedict Cumberbatch. I'm an American doctor named Doctor Stephen Strange. I live on the Manhattan Island. I am from here, America. This is where I'm from.

The blue and the red and the white i love america uh yeah so so from what i saw and he uses uh dr strange does not use his ridiculous comic book catchphrase in the movies am i wrong uh i don't remember it in the movie but he comes out screaming he says the catchphrase three times in the show, at least the video I saw. Oh, it's great. I love that. Which I love, and I'll say it for Scott. And will it be true?

Was it a real? Am I going to say the real one, or am I going to say a fake one? Whoa. The problem is, is the real one is too ridiculous to be. I can never remember it. It's so weird. It's by the hoary hosts of Hoggath. That is the catchphrase that Doctor Strange said in the comics. Real.

It is real. It is real. Stanley is writing at 1am and printing has to be done by 2am. There's a lot of debate about Stanley and what he did and who he created and did he take a lot more credit than he deserves because

Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko did, they drew this stuff and they, they probably wrote more than Stan likes to take credit for. Like I did it. He gives it in the later years. He gave more credit to Jack Kirby and some of the artists than he did earlier. But the Horry hosts of Hoggath,

it doesn't sound like anything more than a Stanley line. That sounds pure maybe i'm wrong it's gonna be mad at me and i've just uh shown that i'm not a true marvel boy but it's such a ridiculous phrase but he says it which i like a lot yeah that'll be in a grape um so i like that and it also and this is this is blue skying and i'm sorry but when dr strange came out and i was like, where is this fucking house? Why didn't you build this house? Doctor Strange has a kook.

We did it in the void. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, that was very cool, yeah. Secret house, and it's magical. Sanctum Sanctorum. Not Rick Santorum. The Sanctum Sanctorum is Doctor Strange's magic house. And I was like, just build that.

Why didn't we build that like this is like all industrial building and avengers like yeah okay but like he's got him he's got a magic house i really do think they're overthinking it with all these things yeah make the places build this fucking house yeah and this is um it's the time of year in los angeles where there's a lot of gloomy gray days whether it's hot or cold and um the gray of the sky really accented the gray of much of the land so yeah for a uh movies inspired by like bright colored comics um i i just wanted more splashes of color i wanted more weird stuff i mean i i think that they're expanding their horizons a little with the Disney Plus shows. There's a lot of interesting aesthetic stuff in Loki.

Kamala Khan, Ms. Marvel is coming. Moon Knight is coming to shows. Hawkeye is coming. And so, like, if you can get them in there and, like, fill out the world a little more, that'd be great. Yeah, and obviously I think those characters will show up it's just like now i'm gonna be a little cranky like waiting for the next really themed like we were talking on the patreon about the plans the possible plans that and uh disney has for anaheim where it's like oh it seems like they're gonna build wakanda which would be awesome wakanda looks cool as shit like build wakanda which obviously is probably like budget-wise similar to avatar like the wakanda orientation center where we'll get you accustomed to the

idea of wakanda before you get to live your wakanda like no just do the yeah and i again i'm sure like they the e-ticket is i think supposed to take you to wakanda the idea they were going to build or there's hopefully fingers crossed they're still building like a crazy new ride system that i even read more about than i knew like it's you start in the quinjet like you're on a way to on the way to wakanda then the thing like opens up the jet opens up and then like your car like your seats drop out some and then you each like have a suit up kind of moment of some kind. Like a singular experience where something happens to you. And then you get dumped, I think, in a 360-ish.

This is my guess based on what I'm reading. And then in that crazy battle where I think you have a lot of range of motion versus Soarin'. Wow. That sounds awesome. Yeah. And I think if that was open with the land, people would go, yeah, the land is a little sterile. But, man, that ride was unbelievable. It's all build up to that.

Yeah. But, like, it's just, look, I'm impatient. I'm cranky. Well, they promoted it, like, as big as DCA 2.0. Like, the refresh there and galaxy's edge and even if it's like a half-sized land like that it's insanely popular characters and such and it's at a time where people are hungry to get out of the house and get back to doing stuff at places so there's demand the demand is there so i i don't know that i was we were's Edge opening day. I remember going to Cars Land,

Buena Vista Street opening weekend. And I know all the COVID stuff and working out the kinks in the app, but this was the sloppiest of the three openings. That's undeniable. Yeah. So I'm sure it's going to calm down. And yeah, on the ground,

cast members, performers, doing a great job in in the land and and everyone in good spirits and and guests seem to be uh enjoying themselves yeah sure and i yeah if i was a kid all the stuff i i mentioned liking i'm sure every kid is like holy shit the spider-man's flying here but hopefully this is just the beginning but this is yeah there's just uh this is just the beginning of marvel it's the end of the covid protocols fingers crossed uh yeah like yeah obviously it'll settle down because i think i said and this is gonna sound like too and so like if this was just like fantasy fair that little fantasy fair in disneyland where

they were like oh yeah fantasy fairs open and you're like oh cool you walked over you're like oh it's figaro like oh cool they did a nice little nice job with this okay but it was live your figaro fantasy hero up brother hero up um i discovered this this is a little so i i after you guys left i just kind of wandered around california adventure a bunch and did anything with a short wait. I did get my Legacy Passholder thing fixed, and I went to the Tasting Terrace, because it was the main place you could get a drink and walk in and sit for a while.

And this is where I learned that Disney... I thought this was only in Mario Cuomo's New York, but I went and I was like, I will have the drop in if you dare um which is a gin drink that tastes like paint

thinner that you add a syringe of maraschino cherry mix to to make it taste um you know sweet and more palatable wow um but I said uh just a drink please uh no she said what food I was like oh no food for me and they're like oh you have to order food to just a drink, please. She said, what food? I was like, oh, no food for me. And they're like, oh, you have to order food to order a drink.

So suddenly the- This is what you're ending the podcast with. Suddenly the $16- With an Andy Rooney, like a 60-minute- What happened? What happened? Well, I kept mentioning- Just perhaps in New York, this kind of thing flies, but-

There was a happy ending. I have the menu. I got to keep the menu, but I... Jason, by the way, Andy Rooney is one of his characters, and I'm not making a joke. Like, he's done a lot. So could you do the rest of this in the voice? Well, I wasn't expecting to eat

screaming cauliflower ceviche, but they said it was the lightest option on the menu. And after eating $3,000... Or 3,000... Oh, no! the lightest option on the menu. And after eating 3,000 calories of Avengers Campus Ant-Man grub, I was a little puffy. So I opted for what turned out to be a soup tureen full of chopped vegetables and tortilla chips. Not exactly light, I would say. And my $17 cocktail adding quickly turned into a $31 plus generous tip into a $40 sit.

But on the bright side, I was given the menu to keep and a coaster and a legacy pass holder magnet and for some reason a bamboo straw that is imprinted with disney annual pass holder when did they start making straws out of bamboo oh i'm throwing the straw right in the garbage why do they wrap the straw in plastic if plastic is the thing you're not supposed to be using right now podcast the ride we'll be right back we started the show with junior samples and ended it with a long deceased uh long dormant segment on a show for uh old people uh but that was delightful i enjoyed that a lot I feel like I gotta wind it down any closing thoughts

unless you just want to do an after show we'll do one where I leave no I guess that's it I just I did like it I don't want to seem like I'm too negative or something these are just my general thoughts as a Marvel fan

I've been doing that a lot sorry the last year my voice has been cracking I apologize everyone as a Marvel fan, I've been doing that a lot. Sorry, the last year my voice has been cracking. I apologize, everyone. As a Marvel fan, I'm hungry for the meat that I know is there and there's 70 years of nonsense. And this is just like we built, as I said,

we just built Main Street of Disneyland and you're going to enjoy Main Street for five years. Like, enjoy Main Street for five years before you get to do anything. Sometimes people come out and wave from the castle. Can I go through it? Is there anything on the other side? No.

Don't worry about that. No, there's nothing else in Disneyland other than... What's your castle experience? It's like Main Street and the Tiki Room is open. Yeah, that's a good analogy. And you're like, okay, this is fun. And I like the Tiki Room better than I like Spider-Man. But yes, it's like there's one thing, and it's a nice experience.

And eventually, you'll get to do a cool, crazy thing that lives up to the promise of some of this nonsense. So yeah, so anyway. But it's a nice time. And when everything settles down, everybody will have a nice cocktail there. and you'll get to see them hurl a dummy through the air. That's great. What else do you want? I mean, eventually a ride, but besides that, that does sound nice. Oh, and that terrace.

Get me to that terrace. I don't know how much longer it's going to be there or what it's going to be if these legacy pass holder things are going away. Can somebody leak some information? Tell us, is the annual pass coming back or whatever it's called, a rewards program, whatever JPEG called it. Yeah, I mean, if it comes back,

definitely check out Marvel Avengers Campus. I would say like, don't, don't run. If you're like, oh, should I spend the money right now to do it? It's like, I think let it calm down.

Let them work out some kinks. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, COVID protocols in California will change. So yeah, I would say like when you go, oh,

Disney's like allowing more capacity and there's less, like they can have more people in the land and whatever. It's not something that you would go, oh my gosh, you gotta go see it tomorrow. But yeah, check it out when you can and it's comfortable. Yeah, maybe they'll try timed entries

at some point. I always thought the first couple months of Galaxy's Edge, the timed entries worked pretty well. Yeah, I mean, they got rid of those within a couple weeks, I feel like. Yeah, that's true. The Galaxy's Edge Protocols. The Galaxy's Edge Protocols. I mean, you did have to

just try to get into Oga. Oga's was hard to get into, but this is like a whole land that's Oga's. To end the show, Jason and I will list X-Men villains, and you will say, are they real or are they not real? Okay. The first one is uh strife

uh the fake real real cables clone um uh fabian cortez that's real yeah okay said it too confident uh yeah you did uh the next one is uh arcade fake real whoa geez uh kang the conqueror fake uh well technically it's an avengers villain uh that was a trick oh he's gonna be in one of the movies coming up i forget which one uh uh yeah uh from the simpsons maybe mojo um a fake real okay geez maybe there are no fakes maybe they're not all tricks i'm doing this off the top of my head jason he's out of them

no i'm trying to think i've been trying there's a guy who doesn't have legs but he has tank treads and i can't remember his name um uh gw bridge um i he's the president right president like 20 years ago uh uh real he is real he's more of a i don't know are you thinking trevor fitzroy no trevor fitzroy is different than gw bridge no i mean from the guy with the tank legs no not trevor fitz or no fitzroy is more of an Bridge. No, I mean from the guy with the tank legs. No, not Trevor Fitzroy.

No, Fitzroy is more of an armored guy. Scott Thorson. Scott Thorson. Real. But not in the Marvel Universe. In the Candelabraverse. And a real person in this world. When will Disney open up a Candelabra themed land?

Oh, boy. Oh, the opulence. I don't think they could afford it. Only Liberace himself could pull it off. Man, that's true. He had to... He paved his way one key strike at a time. That's right.

So, anyway, Kevin Feige, do something with the Liberace. He'd do something. Liberace collaborating with intergalactic rock star teleporter Lila Chaney. How about that? Real. Real. Real. Dazzler.

Real. Wow. There's so much to learn. So many characters I got to meet. Not to learn. Yeah, yeah. I say so much to learn for other people. As for me, I'll go get a beer there when it's more chill.

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