Podcast: The Ride - Back to Disneyland

Episode Date: May 28, 2021

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FOREVER! DOG! All this, plus Podcast the Ride, the podcast about theme parks hosted by boys who are so good that not going to Disneyland for 14 months is their version of edging. I'm, uh, that was an edgy joke courtesy of me, the edgelord, Scott Gairdner. Mike Carlson joins me. Oh my gosh, that makes me so uncomfortable thinking about that. I kind of know what you're talking about.

Like, I kind of know. I've heard it in a context. But it's like what Sting does, right? The singer Sting, the same thing. That's related. You probably put fancier terms on it. That's a little different. That's like pro-level.

Well, why didn't you, Jason Sheridan, hear what you would say? I've seen the difference. Well, no. Tantric is like you go like hours and hours or like a day or something. Yeah, but what... But is it...

Yeah, I believe that edging could be just a matter of minutes. Yeah, it could be minutes or... Couldn't you edge for a day? I mean, I guess mechanically, yeah, it is kind of the kind of you're saying it is a more short-term version of tantric yeah the two of you something really swallowed yeah you're you're dipping your little toesies into the the spirit of eros you know the spirit of the

erotic god but you're god What's the term for that What's the edging Esque term for dipping your toes into the Spirit of I think that I I don't know that was just kind of off the cuff I'm looking about some Heroes here and I just want to determine is heroes cute

Is the mischievous God of love There's gotta be so many depictions of Eros. It'd be hard to... You'd have to judge on an Eros by Eros basis. This image says Eros. It's an article, I think.

Eros, the naughty superhero of love. And then that Kickstarter was funded to the tune of $200,000. A new podcast to write character, Eros. The mythical god of love. I mean, he's public domain, right? Eros?

So we could use him. The naughty. But this can't be how anyone expected the episode to begin that is about our return to the golden gates of... i think we could go down the pantheon of greek gods i think we could squeeze it in determine who which are which are naughty and uh which are just cheeky yeah no no this is about this is about a moment that we have all

waited for for so long for so so many months, for over a year. Moments, separate moments, because we did not all go together. But separately, over the last few weeks, we have all made our return to the Disneyland Resort. Yes. And we're very excited to share our findings. It was fun. It is kind of fun, because we all went on different weeks different levels of capacity potentially and different operational uh things because i had some very unique operational

uh uh things the day i was there and i'm curious to see if they're still carrying it onwards you know it's gonna be a lot of operational talk today i love it i love it go through how they're operating during this time tape on the ground galaxy's edge specific yes bathroom markers we're we're really some days we're looking at the sky and today we're looking at the ground yeah so you know what here's a here here's a tease for for my um section of this episode first half of the day, I said, man, it's going to be a lot of operations talk. It's going to be a lot of talk about protocols, how well thought out things are as far as the pandemic is concerned.

And then the second half of the day happened, and I'll say this, and this is not serious. It's not as crazy as you might think. The second half of the day, I visited the Disney doctor. Whoa! Oh, no! Oh, no! It's not as serious.

I don't want to hype it up to be something crazy crazy, but I, for the first time in my life, had to see the Disney doctor. Let me just say that. Oh, my God. Well, that's like, do we ask more questions now, or do we just put the pin in that?

Maybe put the pin in that. The enticing tease of chapters to come. Yeah. That's very crazy. And a first for, that'd be odd in any episode, let alone this one where health is what's on all of our minds. It's very embarrassing why I was at the Disney doctor. I will say that.

Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah. Did something about marry itott wait what like you did you get your you get your penis caught in the zipper oh i was thinking you meant i got something caught in my head well that could be that too yes i should be more specific this episode is so dirty 14 months just infected your brains twisted movies like something about mary unrated edition i couldn't remember yeah yeah balls caught yeah that's right no that did not happen that was not

the problem okay that would by the way that would i would hype that up to the moon oh that would be an event i thought you said marriott and i was like something marriott related that's a that's like a you know there's like porn parodies of movies there would be like milder parodies of movies that you would enjoy there's something about Marriott ah yes a nice film about a hotel they lost my reservation but then thankfully they failed it hotel based parodies hotel based parodies yeah there is something about Marriott three so soaps, shampoo, and conditioner to take home with me.

I'm trying to think of another, like a Sheridan. Here, pitch on this real quick. Sheridan hotels. Share something with Den. Yeah, what's a movie with Den in it? I don't know. I guess we'll come back to this.

Yeah, okay. Or share a ton uh okay i can't think of anything with ton in either what a oh boy man i really set us up for a failure here yeah i'm so sorry you know what you're still on the men here's another tease yesterday you know oh yeah the home the homewoods sweetest thing. There you go. Yes. Am I making that up? Was Homewood... Did I just make up a hotel chain entirely? Jason, is that a real hotel chain?

Homewood. It is, right? Homewood Sweets. It sure is. Oh, great. Homewood Sweets by Hilton. Everything you need to feel at home no matter how long you stay. Book today.

And it's a... I'm trying to think. Homewood Sweets by Hilton. Everything you need to feel at home no matter how long you stay. Book today. Mm-hmm. And it's a, it's a, I'm trying to think. It's another Cameron Diaz movie. Oh, that's right. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I didn't even remember what the sweetest thing was.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. That was a, it was kind of a bomb. All right. Well, I'll come, I'll think about this. I'll zone out during the episode and come up with a couple of funny ones for the end. Okay. And Homewood Sweets has a mascot, Louis the Duck. That's another character discussion.

Yes, is Louis the Duck. Well, you know, Greek deities, they're always turning into things. Do you think Eros hides out on Earth under the guise of Louis the Duck on occasion? Is that naughty Eros? Yeah. That naughty Eros. Louis the Duck is cute. Look at this.

This is Louis the Duck saves the day. Whoa. And he's got a rake. They seem to put out books of this. Louis the Duck cleans the world.

He's scrubbing the whole globe. Look at Louis. Thanks, Louis. Jeez. The Homewood Suites duck mascot as a full toy line and book series toy line goes to canada all right well that's me coming yeah um but for now disneyland is our destination we're bad we went back and it's it does feel it uh i don't know overall everybody happy had a great day yeah real good time i did and i will say that i i maybe you guys share this or

i am a crazy person obviously for for some of this uh from what i'm about to say the first thing that i was like struck by is that you know since annual passes are not back, is that, oh, okay, my time is limited here. I only have so much time to do so much. And spoiler alert, we'll be going back for Avengers. But after that, I don't know when I'm going back. I don't know necessarily if it might be like by the time there's a new annual pass, loyal to whatever they decide to do.

So I felt like not scared because again this is that's i'm not completely out of my mind but i felt like that weird vacation crunch that we always talk about when people say oh why do you like to go down in that disneyland so much isn't that a big pain and you go no it's breezy it's a nice trip and you have a little drink in the middle of the day i felt this this crush now also they don't have max pass fast pass single rider all of my tools i felt like batman you know when they would strip batman of his belt and his costume and he just had his fists and his wits just had his fists and his wits like rachel ghoul takes all his clothes off and puts him in like a tent and fights him with a sword that's how i felt too so i felt completely disoriented the first hour and

also on top of it of course everything is different because of covid protocols so i was totally trying to get my bearings for how the day was going to go the wait times were like so high already 110 minutes for guardians no chance of a fast pass i was like i don't know what's going on here i don't know how to approach this i don't know what to do huh see i never when the the week i went and i was the first of the three of us to go down um i didn't see anything over 40 minutes well you were at a lower capacity day. Yeah. So, but we still felt the crunch to some extent. Yeah. But I knew I would be back for Avengers.

So, I think I felt it a little less. But we, I think I said this on another episode recently. So, I was like up at like like 6 30 to get dressed and then start refreshing my phone like two minutes before seven to get the rise of the resistance sure uh virtual queue and i got it i got it in like group 29 and by the time we drove down there and like we're exiting the parking garage they're like okay you have one hour to get here so it's like okay i guess we're i guess we know what we're doing first so oh yeah it was it was dictated for you yes and it was also like a bit of a you know you you walk from the parking garage

through the tram route you can do the bridge to downtown disney by the old espn zone but i was like well let's see what the tram route is like okay walking the tram route is pretty boring there's not much okay so yeah so so as jason's saying like they're not doing any trams anymore so if you've never been to disneyland basically you park in now one of two giant parking structures generally you just get in a tram they take you right to the front to the esplanade yeah because security is all right before the tram now and by the time this comes out trams could be back we don't know they keep changing stuff this is a slice in time this is a moment in time yeah certain protocols this will be an artifact that people will just study it for years to come to see exactly where you could stand in the disneyland resort uh so yeah

so jason you alluded to this before i don't know is it an episode that hasn't come out yet about how you found walking the tram uh route so unpleasant you hated well no i just i didn't say i don't know if i hate it i was curious to see what it looked like, but it just felt like so long. And it's just like the undecorated backside of like downtown Disney. And I think walking the length of downtown Disney, it's, it's like Vegas. It's like,

yeah, your mind is kind of tricked because it's like, there's a lot of lights and sounds and everything. And you can hear a little of the area music, but like not a ton. And so. Jamba Juice has a TV in it now. So that gives you the energy you need to sprint the next half mile.

And a new name and look. Oh, yeah. They're just Jamba. So by the time you've discussed all that, looked at the TV, thought like, is that 4K? What kind of TV are we talking? Now you're almost at the gate. But without any of those distractions... That's right. Yeah. And don't worry, I'll get to my downtown Disney experience because I patronized

a number of establishments on my way out. Really interesting because we took the tram route back. Did you walk downtown Disney Scott or did you walk tram? Well, I had this whole other thing. I did it in a different way because not only was this my return to Disneyland, this was my wife Erin and I's first overnight without our new son. Of course, yes, of course. So yeah, Grandma was taking good care of him. So this was a little vacation for us,

and we decided to live it way up and spend the night at the Grand Californian. Wow. Which was so fantastic a um ungodly expense insanely expensive but we're like but this is look we've been cooped up this is a big deal right i want everything to be as comfortable as possible and oh my god if you stay there you like now your security line is 10 people you're not hoofing it back and forth you're not doing the big walk for mickey and friends getting to do i i stay there maybe once before um and i don't remember if i did this then but that whole that you can just walk out of the private exit

yeah from california adventure oh my god i like in a day of mega walking and when we're trying to, that was a lot of it too, is just like can we not have all of this stress and worry and the day isn't just all about walking because it's also a vacation for a one day vacation for us. Right. In Grand California, oh my god. You are just right in the heart

of it. Yeah, I was lucky once to stay there because when my family comes to visit sometimes they'll want to take like one night and stay down there and we were checking into paradise pier and somebody behind the desk went oh excuse me um would you would you want to upgrade for free to the grand californian what and we were like geez yeah okay yeah we were trying to save money by staying at the worst one. It is, if you don't know these hotels, if you weren't in the LA area, yeah, it's the lower of the three.

And still, you would hear that and go, oh, then it's probably affordable. And then you will look at the price and go, no, it's horrible. Yeah, yeah. All these, they are gouging you on all these hotels big time i am kicking myself that i didn't like years ago like splurge more often because you would used to be able to find the grand californian for like occasionally under 300 a night or and the grand the disney land hotel the same like and and if you want to splurge like okay 300 a night but we don't do it that often and now it seems like you know all bets are off i don't know if they're especially gouging in this like everybody's gonna want to come and you want to

be in the heart of it right i don't know if it's like even higher than usual yeah maybe but i would but like you know once you get over that and you're there and like we have a room and a room overlooking the beautiful kingdom of downtown disney we got a little upgrade it was like i think supposed to be on a with less of a view but then we got a view of napolini and the new sandal store um i think we're right above jamba with the new tv this is the heart of the action uh uh felt on top of the world so you could just like look out the window and see people walk by and go look the new jamba like they were a lot so many people were yelling the new branding of jamba they were yelling how excited they were i watched yes children and their parents weep just drop to the ground like it's the wailing wall and just yeah breathe it all in yeah it's

really beautiful man that's so great. Yeah, yeah. It did rule. So, yeah. So, we all had sort of different experiences then in terms of like the hassle. My takeaway, admittedly, was because we haven't really talked about how our little days were. Jason, we heard a little bit from you just before recording an episode. And it was like, how was Disneyland? Oh, my God.

The walking. It was the first thing out of your mouth like after all this time you're straight to so the walking i i didn't expect the group to get called that quickly yeah and that was the pressure i felt that's okay so now yes now i'm seeing your stress i'm stressed you were upset about the walk mainly because you felt a time crunch. I felt a time crunch there. To walk from there to Galaxy's Edge. Because I kind of released, I released, you know,

gradually released pressure of like, we've done a lot of this before. Like, you know, I was asking Jane what she wouldn't do a lot because she wasn't sure when she would be back next because she had an annual pay. We got an annual pay.

We renewed our annual passes like right at the end of like 2019, 2020. And we're like, well, we'll come a bunch in 2020. And, you know, so that that was we didn't have reservations for anything. So the only thing we had scheduled was that rise of the resistance ride and she had not done it before yeah so i wanted to make sure she got to have a good experience on that yes um so that was the only thing and and combined i mean i think we stopped to like use the bathrooms or have a drink of water on main street but i looked at like the had the step counter the mile mark in the phone after we went all the

way back walk through the substantial queue for rise of the resistance did the whole ride which involves walking when we got out of the queue at that point it was a little over three miles in less than an hour and that's a lot i'm not like i'm not like jumping out of my chair no but i've been up since like 6 a.m and i was like this was not you're not gonna get anything out of me on that yeah no i don't say i don't we're not we are not the same that is yeah correct but like if this were orlando and this was a ride in islands of adventure, you would not have a single problem. You would have floated over to the ride. Well, no, because with the luxury of staying on site at Universal Studios Resort Orlando, you can take a boat or you can walk.

You don't have to drive the like 101 to the five to the. Yes, that is true. I kept saying while Lindsay and i were walking both ways i go jason hated this walk i kept i kept bringing it up i go i loved i loved walking through a lively downtown disney that when the park because park close at seven the day i was there i think that you made a big mistake though because i'm really happy now because I'm realizing I'm, we're the only people who did this walk from the tram back. And again, this will probably change this.

There'll probably be a tram in a couple of weeks. Um, but I think what happened, and this is totally a guess is that people were getting a little sleepy on that walk back to the tram. And it wasn't like a lively downtown disney because they were pumping music in on the walk back that i i've recorded it because i was so intrigued by it this is like what someone who would set up a folding table at downtown disney selling their

own cds and playing pan flute that this is like what they would be playing i mean you might not be able to hear it that well but that's got a that's a groove going it's like boom yeah and i was like yeah what is this and i was like you know what i bet this is they were like we gotta find some high energy music because people are like dragging at the end of the day walking this boring street they set up a ton of benches throughout that tram pathway to like take a seat if it's a little long and now they're just like please leave please go and they put like some like generic up-tempo disco music to get people going like yeah yeah that's going back to my car. Modern Fifth of Beethoven. Yeah.

Dunk, dunk, dunk, dunk, dunk, dunk. Yes. So I feel like they were like, all right, we got to go into the archives and find something that will make people like really excited to get back to their car. And you think that this like drum machine plus a violin is going to just get people's blood surging. Here's what I don't, I would have picked a different song,

but my, my rationale is why wouldn't they be playing like, why would they be playing like a sleepy end of Disneyland song? Yeah. So that, I don't know why they picked that particular piece of music, but that's my guess is they were like, we got to find some of the most up-tempo thing

that wouldn't offend anyone okay pull the opening promotional video for downtown disney and just rip the audio and let's blast that through the speakers it's 2001 all over again folks what's generic turn of the century jazz you can find. Well, if anyone out there walked the tram at the end of the night and they were playing a similar song, let us know. I'm curious. Yeah. Maybe they started with a sleepier Disney song and people were literally falling over and falling asleep on the way back because it was such an arduous walk. Can I talk about a little thing that i you know i this this this sort of it's it's i guess like a an end of the night thing as well but it was also the to commemorate the dawning of a new day uh there was this this event that happened before all this uh and i think we obviously have

to talk about i'm sure we all all watched it with our loved ones. All the listeners watched it, which was the relighting of Sleeping Beauty Castle. Did everybody see this online? This was like, oh, yes, I did see this. This is a seven minute live broadcast. Is that right? Yeah, I did see this.

Now I say that sarcastically and realize we did all see this, but it was this odd sort of arbitrary little event where you're watching it and it happens. And you're like, oh, that was it? All right, I guess so. It wasn't exactly like lighting the Rockefeller Center Christmas tree. They just turn the lights on. It's nice.

I'm happy that. Sure. I think the park has been unlit the one time i went down at night in december to a very spared downtown disney it was really creepy seeing no lights on ferris wheel no lights on spires so you know that it's gonna be lit and stay lit is a good thing but then there was this odd i just want to play a second of this video um uh just the odd pomp and circumstance and i'm glad you know as an eisner fan i like that they make their officials their executives come out and do weird things like this but there's this all right so this is the video reawakening of sleeping beauty

castle at disneyland and this is uh what is he's the president of the resort josh demaro no ken potrock is the new president he'srock is the president He's the wartime president He came in during Very difficult times DeMauro is head of Parks and resorts Head of parks Yes

Oh he's headed It's not just Disneyland He's the head of all of it Yeah he used to be Head of Disneyland Now he's the head He's Chapek's old job Alright alright

Yeah And this is one of these Yeah people Like okay I'm gathering People Despise Chapek People want to see him

Fall off a cliff They hate ChapekG so much. And yet Josh DeMauro, everyone is swooning over this man. I don't know what happened. Suddenly everyone, this is Prince Charming. We all, everyone united and loving. Anyway, this is just this odd moment here. This lamp is very special.

It's Walt Disney's lamp. There it is. It has shown in his apartment on Main Street, USA every day This lamp is very special It's Walt Disney's lamp There it is It is shown in his apartment on Main Street USA Every day as a symbol of the Disney spirit Hello everyone I'm Josh DeMauro Chairman of Disney Parks Experiences and Products

Thank you for joining us tonight For this special event Throughout the past year Walt Disney's lamp has become a beacon of hope and optimism That Disneyland will reopen. Of course. Yeah, we all know. So definitely. Yeah, we've all thought about it. The miracle of Walt Disney's lamp. There was no oil in it. And yet it burned for 400 nights while we waited for Disneyland to reopen.

Crazy nights. I just. Yeah. Hang on. Maybe if you work there, you know this, but I on maybe if you work there you know this but i also think if you work there even if you like really like disneyland and work there it's possible that you don't like and then at the end of the night you go let me just go reflect at the lamp you know that's waltz lamp and if that fire can burn then my fire of hope can burn, that all my friends will be back at home again. I just do Hoos like this. I think they're leaning on that apartment a lot, because I asked Jane to send me some photos, and she had taken a video, and we rode the omnibus,

like the double-decker bus down Main Street, and it was very cool. And you know, the characters all happened to be on the train station. And so we were going right towards them. And then as we pass the firehouse, the guy immediately like stopped talking about main street. He's like,

and here's coming up on the firehouse, you know, on the second floor, that's Walt Disney's apartment. And like, he had the Walt Disney apartment. So they're leaning on that a little hard on the reopening. Yeah.

Huh? I may be because that Walt, like that, that core and the love and the personal touch, it makes you forget about that. I guess we hate shape back a lot or that, you know, that they laid people off.

Like, well, forget, look, look, look what it's about. What it's about at the end of the day is this mostly nice man and the lamp that he loved so dear he was at he has to be buried with the lamp and but we said no the world needs the lamp and we went against his wishes but for good

reason the lamp is it is it magic is it like the genie's lamp? Is it just like... That's that place where he used to crash, right? When he was too tired to go home? Yeah, there was a hot plate you could make a grilled cheese. I mean, I was very lucky I got to go up and see it. And I'm like, oh. The lamp is not magic, but if you make a grilled cheese sandwich in the hot plate

and eat the sandwich, that's a magic sandwich. And your wish will come true. They do not want you to make a sandwich with that. cheese sandwich in the hot plate and eat the sandwich that's a magic sandwich and you and your wish will come true do not want you to make a sandwich with that i will say they don't they want you to not touch anything i mean no maybe nobody ever will again only like the most like elite of disney like like like at his height as jack sparrow, Johnny Depp got to make a sandwich. And his wish of a $10 million raise for the next Pirates came true. Do you think back in the day, did Kurt Russell or Suzanne Plachette get a grilled cheese from that sandwich maker? Oh, I think so. Yeah, I think they're regulars.

I think Dean Jones. Yeah, Dean Jones for sure. Keenan wins. He came every day. Oh, Annette. How many sandwiches did Annette get? So many. So many magic sandwiches. Well, Wally Boog, you know, he's pocketing, you know,

on his way out from doing a Golden Horseshoe show. He's like, stop in. But Wally worked in the park. I feel like there was a tear from movie guys. You gotta really be a profit generator. Miley Cyrus had a lot of magic sandwiches right yeah uh i you know what i i think what you're getting at if correct me if i'm wrong is that there's this bizarre sort of maybe retconning of this specific lamp in the walt disney legend where you're like

i don't know did he really like the lamp or like is this even the lamp he was literally like a like a tiny room he would stay at. And it wasn't like, I think this is a little strange, but you know what? Let's just add some more retcon to Walt's legend. Let's make up more fake stuff that's so special to Walt. No, absolutely. Yeah, did you know the concrete out front was his con his favorite

concrete that he liked the wishing stone yeah yeah he would wish on this specific concrete that he liked and they would pour it did you know that it was really special if you put your hands on it you sort of can feel his presence yeah that's what's nice he left he left his own fingernails yeah in the concrete his actual fingernails not the concrete. His actual fingernails? Not his impressions? No, his, yeah. Like, he cut the tips. And then one full, his full thumbnail,

he pulled off and put into the... Oh, jeez. Yeah, but he needed his essence to be in there. Yeah, he needed it. He was also a sick guy. Yeah, you can, if you put your ear up to it, you can hear him wailing, you know, wailing, like, people don't want to work.

They make more money staying home right now. We need to do something. Yeah, yeah. So that was, that's all real. There's a Walt, there's one of his mustache hairs laid when they break ground on every new attraction and that's everywhere that's all over the world that's hong kong shanghai right right that's the uh when they inaugurate the ships they like bash the bottle of champagne but also rub it with one of the the whiskers that's

left he left he had like he died with like 200 and then they have to be really careful about spacing those out. That's why they're so slow with attraction sometimes. Okay. We're running out. We're running out. If we can't clone, it wouldn't be the same. Did you know that the Na'vi in the tank on Flight of Passage, all that water is Walt's saliva? He would collect his saliva over the years, and they needed it for a special attraction later.

He knew he could feel that they would have a special attraction. And now we're starting to paint kind of a Howard Hughes in Vegas sort of image. No, no. Thumbnails, saliva, he saved his hair. Okay, different, different. It was all saved. He cataloged it because he knew he was important.

Yeah, and he has a big vault of his piss somewhere as well. He saved that too. The Disney vault has a bunch of Walt's piss. They dump a little of it into the moat each day. Just a little magic. Walt's magic piss makes our moat what it is. His spirit is alive bubbling up under each

Disney duck. I'd love to see Josh tomorrow read that. I feel like you'd read anything you put on the prompter. He could get away with cuts, you know, a nice figure and wears a suit well, you know, well-coiffed hair. Salt and pepper hair. Very stylish. I'll listen to anything.

This is all fine everybody having everybody thinking this guy can get it that's great enjoy it everyone he is a handsome man i just don't know when it happened this was my what i was obsessed with zero to 60 yeah yeah yeah all of a sudden one day everybody is just freaking uh like who's the guy from the bridgerton uh is that the right name of the show yes yes he's that josh demarro within theme park nerddom is that guy yeah well i mean you know sometimes if you any pop star you know what do you really remember it building didn't just sort of feel like it appeared any of the big crazes that's true yeah yeah no there was there was no bieber and then there was bieber yeah so like josh tomorrow is a lot like bieber if you really think about it um anyway i did not see him

uh yesterday when i went um well okay so uh stuff we all right right, here's a question We know Jason's first ride back It was kind of enforced Did you choose your first ride back? What did it end up being? How did you, after all this time What's the return? Well, we did

We ate something first We went to Flo's And we ate something And then we went on Incredicoaster Nice, that's a good one Yeah, because we had to start Because they we ate something and then we went on in credit coaster nice and uh yeah because we had to start because they make you start in one park and we had california venture then you can hop after one um and you know we started california venture did in credit coaster because the weight was a little less and then that's when i kind of had a sigh of relief because

the weight was like 30 or 40 minutes on the app but it really took us like 15 minutes in the line and i went you know what maybe all of these are going to be easier than i thought and then we did midway mania again 15 minutes tops yeah and i go okay because i really was looking at that app and going 110 minutes for guardians like 60 minutes for toy like i was like we're gonna get three things done today yeah yeah and i don't ever want to tell people like that's a guarantee but like touring plans does a great job of tracking this stuff and oftentimes their experience of actually getting through the line is a hair shorter than the yeah and they do supposedly they do this psychologically to make you feel like good because if somebody

tells you something's gonna be 50 minutes and it takes 40 minutes, you go, what a little trick it is. But this felt really like inflated. This felt like double the time when you would look at the app. Because like Guardian said, like 60, 70 minutes, and I swear we 20 minutes and we were on. So it was way inflated.

Should we say the timeline? Because I don't remember where you were, Jason. And this is also a thing thing if you don't know um and or if you're in florida where everything's just been like hey whoever all the time always yeah anybody into the park california has been really spaced out in terms of theme park capacity and places are moving up tiers very slowly so i ended up being there on the the last day that it could only be 25 right it changed in the morning we had breakfast at the labrea bakery right next to the ticket booths and it was flooding with people getting tickets for that day because they just immediately

uh you know turned the faucet back on so that me and that went from 25 to 35 percent which is when you so you went with a 35 yes i was there 35 so it was a little uh it was still of course not very crowded when you consider the days we've been there before for sure yeah we know like a labor day or yeah the 24 hour disney day we were there when i was like oh we're gonna get like trampled to death by people yeah i almost can't imagine it being like like now that you've done it with less people it's gonna be hard to go back yeah it's a first class situation when you have the leg room yeah how do you go back to coach yeah that's kind of how all this this felt jason how much was do you think was it 25 yet or was it down to the very slim 15 well i went i think i went may 13th so that was less than two weeks it had been reopened so i believe it was that 25 you texted me a day or two before and was like you might get the tail end or we might both get the tail end of

25 right right which is pretty good you feel it you definitely feel it there is it's not all day it's not like everything feels super spaced out but there's certain there were certain moments we went to adventureland pretty quick and you really feel it there because if you know disneyland boy is it jammed over there um i'm trying to think of other Tomorrowland too. Cause that middle, that Tomorrowland zone next to between star tours and buzz light year, um, super anything that's always stroller central, right? There's a lot less stroller central and just less people.

Um, yeah, some of the more irritating congested areas of the park were definitely a lot chiller. I have to say the four o'clock crunch in new orleans square though that was where i called it that's where i tapped out was like let's go to california adventure and have a drink because it was just it is it's so nice when it works it's so uh intimate and well designed but it was made in the it was designed in the early to mid 60s and uh the park

has a lot more people going to it now so if you factor in that and you factor in a lot of only entrance doors and only exit doors and outdoor rope queues it got pretty gnarly over there yeah yeah um well if if i could say my first attraction i didn't really have a plan until i got in and then it just felt like you know why don't we do it sort of chronologically let's like do the like you never end up doing that when you're crisscrossing around with max pass and fast pass let's just like go left as walt introduced the lands on the show in 1954 so going left into adventure land and then straight to the indiana jones adventure pretty like epic first one back yeah um and the ride's great obviously really enjoyed it and you got a weird plexiglass and there's less space in the car and that's all good i brought i bring it all up

partially to say this is one of the more unusual line setups because that's a question if you haven't gotten to go yet or you're not on the west coast um they are keeping it outdoor lines as much as they can there's certain spaces where you sort of can't do that but limiting your in your indoor time um and any of jones is very interesting because the jungle cruise is closed currently So a lot of the queue was the second floor of what is usually the Jungle Cruise. Oh, right. It's really weird to be waiting in a line clearly for a different attraction. And then like, I know this is the Jungle Cruise line, and yet it's going to take me into Indiana Jones. Right.

They did. I will say, you talked about this on Patreon. Universally, you're like, okay, they have like markers six feet apart in line that being said you're literally standing right next to a person because they're in the line over so what is it what's the point of this you still need distance there right yes and look i don't i'm not a doctor here yes but i so i see what you're saying that doesn't make any sense i I will say Disney put a lot more work into it than Universal did. Can't you say this most of the time?

Well, of course. Well, yeah. At least they're like in the line, you're like, well, there's markers and the markers aren't next to each other when there's a line. Oh, I see, yeah. I go, oh yeah, this was like,

they took another couple minutes when walking through and went, yeah, we should probably put these people farther away from each other. Did you have a virtual queue too i didn't end up doing uh yeah that's another thing there's only two rides that you can get in a sort of max pass ish like like digitally reserve your spot and it's rise of the resistance and indiana jones i assume because that's one of the the first when this was all starting the whole pandemic i was like that's like the most impossible one because that's a mega line all indoors how is that going

to work so i guess supplementing it with the digital is part of it but no we just walked in you walked in okay yeah we did the virtual queue for that but just kind of on a lark like i think we were uh we we stopped after uh i don't know we did rise and then we had uh a veggie ranta wrap and blue milk uh because jane had not tried either of those and they were very good uh blue milk i don't know if you can see this uh right now but they give you a little lid for it right like a little paper lid to cover it sort of what looks like a coffee ground thing but the opposite yeah that looks like the top of your drink yeah the bottom of like a cupcake a little cupcake wrapper or something flipped around yeah and i i think it's again kind of like you know psychological kind of covid comforting um uh let's look at it though yeah it was very pleasant and then at some point we did like three

of the fantasy land rides we uh did pinocchio toad and alice and wonderland and then we got popcorn and a soda and sat on the old boat dock slash smoking section you know that little weird part by the water and be before fantasy in fantasy land yeah kind of where the it was the motorboat cruise wait yes a long time ago yeah not do snow white did you say snow white uh no i couldn't do it um antifa was tearing it down the day i was there brick by brick thank god because we all collectively as the left certainly agree we all discussed at the last meeting this snow white ride and the kiss will not stand no uh the snow white face character was reading from the communist manifesto by carl marx which you can now buy at every disneyland gift shop and we're all comforted for that fact and

a wall and as soon as they started selling it the light in walt's apartment went out it was just flickered yeah flickered ifered. If a little flame can be considered angry, I would call it that. Oh, Walt is the flame. Hey! Walt, welcome to the happy place. I live in the lamp forever. I'm fire now.

I'm fire now. I transformed into another state. And got Mickey's voice. Walt Disney and Mickey's voice. I'm the flame now we we should explain this in case the context is missing later that the um you know there's there's all of it because all right they're changing the jungle cruise and some of that is uh you put in the umbrella of cultural sensitivity or just updating things and obviously splash mountain is changing at some point someday. Not yet. If you have

that question, is Splash Mountain running? Yes. Is it not? Is it any less Song of the South? No. They've not had to. That whole thing was just like getting their foot in the door. It's going to be Prisoners of the Frog someday. Not when it opens, but don't worry about it. It's happening. It will happen. Don't worry. Don't protest. So there's all these

things and then all these charlatans are writing stupid articles about disney getting to pc or whatever and then so there's this like this utterly fake uh fox news story about because they just redid the snow white ride and and added a new ending and it involves the prince kissing snow white to awaken snow white right and fox news has framed this as well the left found a new target for their cancel culture snow white and the lack of consent in the kid based on one article one blog one one person who is clearly has a quota covers popular culture and likely has a number of articles they have to post a week. And I,

I, someone, someone asked me like, did you see it? I'm like, no, you don't have to, it's don't worry about it.

Like, and I'm sure like, yeah, there's an important discussion to have with children. Yes. But like, not, you mean

about consent yeah about consent but yes absolutely about consent but like in the context of like a movie from before world war ii you're trying to apply 2021 thinking it's a cartoon yes it's a it's a cartoon with magic in play and then i yeah i don't i don't know and apple that is magical yeah i guess the apples are just poison the apples not the apples poison poison an apple today that as much as you could back then yeah but but and i'm sure disney's like the imagineers thinking was just like well it's been a few decades of people saying it doesn't end like the movie does and they're like well let's try to nip this in the bud and and it created a whole new uh can of worms well but it was again it's like i don't know that people were yeah

outside of like an article i'm not sure because also tom martin's wrote an article about the snow white ride i don't know if you read it yet uh did it come out today or yesterday um today yeah i saw he posted yeah it also talks about how every how much thought uh everyone put in imagineers put into like making sure snow white had oh like ownership over her story and wasn't about with the prince and they put all this thought into agency and yes agency that's actually the word i meant to say and like at the end they wanted to make sure that like she's hanging out with her friends and the prince is in the distance. Oh, that it's not about the whole thing.

Yeah. It's just about now she lives with this man who bellows at her in a well once. Right. That's why. Yeah. Today. So I think like, you know, they put some thoughtfulness into it and trying to make sure that, you know, that. But yes, you're to your point. Yes.

Like talk to your children about actual like consent and what that means in the real world that's important but perhaps fox news is blowing this uh disconnect the life lessons from popular culture the most you can because they will be getting it constantly from left they will just be getting pop culture shoved down their throats like from every angle you know no just a weird fake controversy it's just one of those i have to keep clarifying to it's like a war on christmas maybe yeah yeah yeah that's the whole thing now is just taking like we found we found one if we like we found a needle in a haystack here this sounds like a radical left they're all mad about something

stupid here you go uh let's make this all we are talking about for four hours yeah yeah but but it's a self-fulfilling prophecy because like well this newspaper needs to have new content and this 24-hour tv network needs things to go like absolutely apoplectic about and it's just they're just shaking hands it's just the two spider-men pointing at each other did gutfeld address this oh man i don't know that we know i mean it yeah uh i mean all the gutfeld bits go viral and that's i just have a hard time keeping up with them because they yeah right they are all sure uh you know on the home page all the time yeah so uh you know we'll go back and have have a good laugh you know who also have a good laugh is him who laughs at his own jokes well no one else is gonna do it who else is gonna laugh at gutfeld not the people in

the room with him these are like his employee like the the people who work there and they were probably told not to just laugh a little to support Gutfeld. It's like, you know, you watch the old Tom Snyder show and you have like one producer chuckle at him here and there. But that's a show that's like barely intended to be comedic. Right, that's true. Like the

idea is to laugh and even his own people won't do it. Tom Snyder was not the comedian of gut comedian gutfeld is that's for sure uh and now cowardly to go for it like gutfeld and now we've lost the children with the snyder tom snyder talk uh yeah i'd say so we have probably gutfeld yeah yeah kids love gutfeld um uh so anyways uh yes this brings us to a point which is uh yeah oh my god they redid the snow white ride there's some new rooms and some new effects they refreshed it looked at that wait time 45 minutes i don't look i'd rather kind of go on the e-tickets in

california adventure sorry sorry podcast audience i can watch a video i did not do it jason did not do it mike did you do it it is awesome oh good it's so good i'll circle back around it was just the clock was ticking it was only like exactly i had only so many chips it was that pressure i had we had no like i was like oh yeah let's take a look at what they did and we were like wow look what they did in here they crammed so much good stuff in there and they didn't like it still because look so it used to be the it was not uh snow white scary adventure right that's what i'm losing my mind uh snowy adventure and like they were gonna like the word was oh they're gonna take the scariness out of it and people were

like well it's kind of sounds like that sucks like it's fun to have a little scary left wants to take the scariness out of snow't he did 20 minutes on the scariness of the snow white ride going away uh but he put so we're so we're like all right well we'll see what it is they just have like in the nooks and crannies of it and we'll maybe we'll do a full there seems like there's enough to do like an episode at least a second gate on it like all these little effects new smells there's oh that's what you don't get from the videos i didn't know that yeah you're not gonna get the smells and i'll do like there's one less witch there's two of the witch like there's three no there's actually four so i should say there's like two yeah there's like

two less witch figures uh and they cram in a full like ending sequence so you have a real like sense of it finishing like a story wrapping up because it used to be the dwarves were on the hill the witch was you know had the pry bar for the big boulder and then she falls to her death and then you're outside again and you're like huh yeah and then like there was a book there was the book there i think that tells you that it ended happily right it did and it's like it's confusing like it's confusing in the way like little mermaid is confusing still where it's like ursula's just gone and they're now that that has the ending but doesn't have what came between right the opposite implied in the margins yeah it's the opposite thing like you see a little ursula in the sea and you go what like if you squint you go oh i guess she got killed so

good she died uh but this one they give like they push the scene forward in the ride that final scene forward uh they do a different thing with it and then there's the prince kiss moment it happens it's a full new like forest you're in. The thing illuminates and there's like a little magical moment. Then there's another scene with Snow White hanging out with the dwarves and we got out and we were like, that was great. Oh, that's nice. Good. Like that, like rockets that ride now to me up and like that's in the conversation for

maybe one of the best dark ride in fantasy land. Great. Wow. Wow. That's, that's awesome to hear. I, yeah, it's awesome to hear. I, yeah, it's funny how I feel like,

uh, you know, the Imagineers would cop to that. That was not ideal that it doesn't like there wasn't enough room really to do a happy ending. We just didn't have the space to get one more scene in there to make it end up and nicely. And then I watched a side by side of what it is now after the redo and what it was before i'm like they didn't have the room there's just like room after room of scary trees and weird like spindly alligators slowly opening their mouths like yeah looking back i think you're

gonna cut a couple of cut some swamp i thinkude Coates was putting together, he was just like, kids hate these trees. I'm going to put as many scary trees as I can. To push these children. But it's still like, if I was a kid, I would still be scared in the couple scenes that still have the witch. Like the witch still turns around from the mirror and stuff. Yeah, that's like an iconic part they didn't change. Yeah. I mean, spoiler alert, she doesn't come out on the boat anymore.

That's been replaced by an image of the mirror and whatever so i don't know i love when snow white when there's snow white do you see her eating the apple what is it and then uh and then the entire image shatters into glass that's what it is shards yes that's so all right that's like that's for like from a 80s music video it's like it's like it gets like abstract it's very silly and i like it yeah that's where the the boat was that's oh now i'm hyping it up many people will not feel like it was so good but this article todd martin's wrote an article too i feel like he felt similar to me where it was like whoa hey wow and then reading about everybody putting so much thought into it i was like oh yeah it feels like they really uh oh that's good because i yeah i saw

detractors complaining that like oh they clearly just copied some of the stuff from the uh seven dwarfs mine train in florida but like i don't know yeah i'll give it a chance i just the clock was there was only open till 7 p.m the day i was there and we were trying to like yes you know i just crisscrossed the park i thought it was only open until 7 p.m. the day I was there. And we were trying to like crisscross the park. I thought it was so important because we have a theme park podcast and I had to do it. Okay. Well, all right. I guess you can, I guess we just didn't feel the journalistic pressure. Didn't want to report to the listeners.

Look, I spent half a Sunday refreshing that reservation website to try and get a day where I could start in Disneyland. Because we mostly wanted to do disneyland when you say spent half a sunday do you mean you were eating a sunday while checking i mean i had some snacks in there to get keep my blood sugar up for sure it turned out to be useless because they keep just if you're looking for a reservation just give it a day or so they might just unleash a bunch because they're unleashing a bunch anyway yes i mean things are changing uh we may have we may actually when we go to avengers we are spoiler we're going together on a day um we may have a we may have a guest with us also somebody wants to go so i but i have to check for this person because there's not reservations available oh so you would have to one would have to open up

yeah and checking i didn't get to do a lot of my checking but i did get to there was one thing i not reservations available. Oh, so you would have to, one would have to open up. Yeah. And checking, I didn't get to do a lot of my checking, but I did get to, there was one thing I got to check for Carthay, for the Carthay walk-up list. Oh, that was, that involved a list?

There's digital walk-up lists at some restaurants. That's the other thing. Reservations are kind of hard to find for in-park food right now because restaurant occupancy is limited and some restaurants just aren't open yet but stuff's reopening every week it seems sit down stuff is not so you really got to be on those mobile orders one thing i'm seeing a lot of on twitter is people like a big wait for the mobile and people are being so bitchy about that like i thought it was all maybe it's worse now i thought i every mobile or experience i had was fine some of it took a sec but like

so it takes a sec what do you some of these you're at disneyland again it's been 14 months shut up flows i wanted to mobile order it flows it was an hour after the time it would have taken an hour and i was like what is this uh yeah but if it tells you that i know like then you're then you know what you're in we waited in line oh okay i see sure i gotcha it was fine obviously no no it is funny i did not post about it yeah yeah i'm self aware you know you know the kinds of accounts that are posted the uh the disney daddies esque accounts that are i turn into a disney daddy a few times in the trip and then i revert back and go no no no you're a reasonable man you're having a good um you know it's kind of

a disney daddy moment for me i did not get a lot of sleep the night uh before i was kind of going off of not a lot of sleep a couple days yeah into this which just meant and and then racing it was a lot of hassle and like getting uh the grandmas to take care of the baby everybody good just like so involved me having to like i had to backtrack on the freeway and uh give a key that i'd forgotten to like it set me back 30 minutes and we went down just so much weird stress all this resulted in uh me uh oh my god we're on the haunted mansion for the first time in a long time also we're sitting and it's dark in here and i slept through half of the haunted mansion really wow there is

yeah are there ghosts yes is it dark? Even more? Yes. Similar in Florida, I took a nap on the Mexico boat ride one of the times that I went and it was so sweet. It was such a good... Maybe a ride nap is a little secret. Maybe ride naps are where you got to start. You are out Sheridan-ing Sheridan today. Yes. Wow.

That's Jason's lane. Yes lane you know become the teacher i've definitely fallen asleep on rides before for sure uh yeah yeah i think so which ride do you think i know something in florida you know those like long long orlando days especially when i was young like as a kid like yeah i would zonk maybe when i was a little kid i would fall asleep but i've said this before i never i've never fallen asleep in school or anything ever like i can't i'm always on guard oh no i was just too yeah too neurotic in school yeah yeah we're making the games the character games are now switch are switching here you know because like sometimes i like oh i like you know sweets or something and that really steps on on the game that Jason is the only one who likes sweets.

And now Scott's saying he likes to sleep on rides and is sleepy. And that's Jason's territory. So we're stepping on your like well-defined podcast character games. Well, you know, it makes me feel any better. When I was talking to my dad on the phone the other day, he did, I forget how he got to this point, but he did say the phrase like unprompted well don't forget your grandfather was a candy man and my grandfather used to run the the like third shift like night shift lines at the whitman's factory in philadelphia and truly a candy man yeah hershey i believe he said at some point hershey tried to

poach him what yeah and this is a shared in lore that i've never heard before i i forget i forget it but like every every other year or so an aunt will like give it's like everyone got whitman samplers this year wow i am a candy man my father before me was a candy man My father before me was a candy man His father before him was a candy man This is my son Jay This is my grandson

J.M. Sheridan That's a good Halloween costume for you two Oh wow Daniel You and his son. Yeah, Paul Dano's character, whatever. Jason, you just shave and slick the hair.

Yeah, absolutely. Yes, get some dippity-doo and slick the hair back. Wow. Explain to my girlfriend, hey, you know how I said I don't really like Halloween? I don't want to do a couple's costume. With you. I'm doing one with Mike.

You have to do. Thing is. I know, yeah. I know you're not a... I don't want to do a couple's costume um i have i'm doing one with mike thing is i know yeah i know you're not a blanket yeah um if you guys go to a party and you get lost then mike you could say i'm abandoned my boy my candy child my candy boy wow that's that is crazy i'm always blown away when there's a piece of sheridan family history like that that i have not heard because i've heard a lot of it at this point yeah father was a candy man what a grandfather was a candy man that's so good geez yeah wow um do you think other things well you know speaking of people of like uh shifting you know personas and and tropes again we just covered this a little bit on the universal episode on the patreon but there was the question of am i going to reset and not be into thrills whatsoever or am i going to go back full tilt

uh and i'll tell you there was a five-minute wait for Splash Mountain, which did not last all day. You know what? Why not? Let's go back in. Wow, you did it. This was the first time that I did not close my eyes on the drop. Wow. I stared down.

You're going up there, and you're thinking, man, it's been 14 months. Enjoy it. Stare. And boy, watching those steam jets come at me. I mean, I still look terrified in the picture. You never saw it before with your own eyes on a lift drop hill. When we were at Knott's, did you keep your eyes open on the Timber Mountain local? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, yeah. I say, I still say sort of like casual. Yeah, yeah. No, I'm keeping my eyes open on the children's rides now. No, but it is a big deal for me and i yeah this was the first time and i always think that i'm gonna do it or i think that i did it and then the photo proves that i it's like the dinosaur thing with me where i thought i was staring at the dinosaur and apparently i was cowering in fear yeah yeah um so uh yeah i still look super scared in the photo, but man, I enjoyed it. I just like locked eyes with the bottom, yelled happily.

And like, I think I was really enjoying, especially that you get, that's the one where you get to log into yourself. How awesome. I think it added to the pressure with me that I don't want to be like, I'm like nervous and talking to Aaron. Like, I don't know, maybe I don't know if I can handle the drop. And there's other people around and probably kids. Now to have the thing to yourself, you'd really do just feel the relaxing boat ride nature of it.

I felt that on Jurassic world too, less people around. And suddenly you're, it's like, you're taking a pontoon around that just happens to have a drop at the end. Cause like if there was a kid on the log, you would have been like, this isn't going to be so bad.

Don't worry about it. It's going to be fine. I'm going to be fine. I'm going to be fine. You're going to be fine. No problem. We're going to be all right. We will be fine. So don't.

You're freaking me out, kid. Yeah. I, man. So great. And I was now. You're getting braver. Incredicoaster is now just part of Lexica. I just love Incredicoaster now.

I can't even remember not loving it. So that one's not even a big deal at this't even remember not loving it um so that one's not even a big deal at this point but boy did i eat that one up and uh guardians i closed out the night with wow which is only my second the time the bravest i did it i did it now again is alcohol involved this is the recurring thing it does it's like flying just needs i need it to get rid of the jitters but boy did i love you know and you know what now after that second one i think that there was like the the fear of the new the first time i did it and then this one i there's just been so long i was so ready for it and now i like didn't freak me out at all i think

it is now just in the lineup. I think I will always do Mission Breakout at this point. I'm so happy. Hey, that's great. Yeah. So that was, like, I asked Lindsay, I go, what's the one thing we have to do? She goes, well, like, Guardians. I saw somebody post that the ride was bad or unpopular.

I think it's bullshit. Guardians is so good. Was there just a tweet saying that, like, the outside was ugly or something something like that yeah i don't everyone came around to that yeah anyway i don't regardless of whether you like the movies or not the ride itself is fun and good yeah yeah yeah i don't know what and it gets so weird like we're gonna take this we're just to jam some IP in there instead of the original story of the Twilight Zone. Like, what was... The logic just isn't there. And yeah, the thing is super fun.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I just dig it. And like, well, we were saying on the second gate how I was like sprinting the silver bullet. Now I did at Knott's. I have a more advanced coaster than I've done. Now I'm just sort of a junkie and maybe it's an end of the night thing.

Like I only got a little bit of time. Yeah. Maybe I do. Like the longer I wait, the more I think about it, I'll back off. So I just got to like run to that thing or I'll change my mind. And it's,

that is a, as I was saying, a hell of a ride to end the day and then to just walk to your hotel room on a path with essentially no one. Oh my God. Yeah. Such a relaxing, great end of the day.

See, we really did switch because I went over to California adventure and we got a beer and a margarita and sat in, uh, like the cannery row, Fisherman's Worth area, uh, enjoyed the sunset and was like okay let's go back to

disneyland and walked back over to the other park because we like all right we have one hour left what's the thing to do and we both agreed on haunted mansion okay and that was the right call because we were in line for haunted mansion and it was like a magical ending to the day we started talking to the person behind us she had a haunted mansion dress on it was her birthday she had the button and we were i was taught we were talking about like oh i saw some people they were letting some people in through the like mausoleum uh like the door there she's like oh yeah have you done it i was like no i've never been over there i got a picture but I, I've never like gone through that back entrance. She's like,

I I've done it. It's really cool. And she, and we get to the front of the house, we get to the front door and they stop us and they went, are you guys okay with stairs? We're like, yeah.

And they're like, all right, come on. And they took us in the back door of the haunted mansion. If you don't do this thing where they intercepted you and said, do you want to do it? How do you get this, see this other entrance? That's a good question. You just have to, you just ask someone somewhere.

I think what's happening is they're just trying to keep occupancy down in the elevators, but they can get lots of people downstairs onto the ride. So they were running the stretching room but then they're also taking people in the back so there's a door if you see like by the graveyard mausoleum crypt area whatever you want to call it um they took us in that door first off everyone was clearly like okay yeah let's we want to go home let's get these people in um uh it was one of the steepest set of stairs i've ever seen in my life uh there are miniature versions of the stretching portrait just kind of hung along the walls and then uh you can see the lightning effects from

the other side of the wall and then they open a door and you're in the the middle of the portrait gallery walkway like q whoa and that was wild i was like oh that's okay like because there's still stuff where i'm like oh that connects to that and then and then and then we got to see like they added those new like dressing room kind of screens in the q line and And there's, they added one more portrait back. I think that had been in storage. And it was great. It was running great. Pretty much everything I went on,

I think was running great that day. We got to do that same walk. We got to ask the same question, the mysterious question of like, are you okay with stairs? Really cool. I will say that the thing, the issue that was,

I was dealing with, I was dealing with it during this haunted mansion trip this ride so my memory is a bit impaired because of what i was dealing with well do we need so i think we have to say yeah okay so just a little bit of uh context before this just maybe i don't even need to say it I was checking, I got reservations to Carthay We were in Carthay, we had some food And this is just Just because it's funny

And this is the first time We've actually dined inside since being vaccinated That was the first Wow Not to step on yours, but yeah I did not realize we would get indoor Carthay We didn't want to No. We didn't want it to. Holy.

Oh, you didn't want it? No, we didn't want it. We wanted to be outside, but they like seated us there and we're like, I guess we're vaccinated. That's. Yeah. Yeah. That's a hell of a first place to do it. Yeah.

Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. So. Don't let it happen. Oh my God. Like that was where I first texted you guys. Like, here's the thing to show having the Manhattan inside.

Yes. Holy shit. And that's so lindsey had her didn't jill uh jill uh the dog distracted me i swear a dill gin and tonic and i had my carthay manhattan like two older folks your mother likes the dill gin and tonic we like california adventure it's a slower park more to our speed you know your mother she likes the deal gin and tonic uh yeah made it well today yes uh so we got that we had uh we had some meatballs as well all the prices are three dollars more expensive if i can i feel like yeah i feel like mr chapex and snuck the price up on us uh why does it tomorrow get the blame that's what i'm saying he's handsome maybe he's the one pulling the trigger on all the prices you might be right you might be right yeah it's a wolf in sheep's clothing but he's just so sexy i can't imagine he would this is an anti-bald bias with chapek

that's what's happening. You might be right. So when we were trying to get the reservations, you can put in like, oh, is it a special occasion or something? And like, we're a couple of days away from Lindsay's birthday. She was trying to get reservations too. I was trying to get reservations and I was trying to go as fast as possible. I wasn't even putting any of that in just to, you know, expedite the thing. Finally, I did it. It took me 20 minutes of checking lindsey was

luckily she wanted me to stop checking but then she said oh i want a coffee so i'll go wait in line you can keep checking out on the bench in the 85 degree heat and i did that and she so i got that and she kept saying she's been yelling at me because i haven't been wearing enough sun sunscreen this is another thing where i'm like uh yeah i should i got burned playing tennis we all know i'm playing tennis again that's a whole thing that's a big deal in my life uh you like already were like your knees were hurting and you burnt you got sunburned yeah i got sunburned playing tennis you've done this like how many times four three or four at this point playing again tomorrow two maladies already yeah so she and lindsey is big sunscreen person she's got the different type she's got the face one

she's got the whatever so like before before or during when i was checking she's like you gotta put you gotta reapply you know every four hours or whatever it's like okay i put the body one on i put the face one on she's got one now where it's like uh almost like a deodorant stick it's for like your eyes because your eyes are different like thinner skin and you whatever we put it on there so she's she has made sure i'm not going to get burned i'm in the sun now checking because that's like the that's the spot on the bench do it i'm checking checking finally get it okay great we go over there we get seated we're we're eating and drinking and and having a nice time and then lindsey i think you know she had a little bit of a drink that she's not drunk or were eating and drinking and having a nice time. And then Lindsay, I think, you know,

she had a little bit of a drink. Not that she's drunk or anything, but she's, you know, she's feeling a little bold. She goes, hey, you know, would it be, it's like birthday. Like, is there anything for,

she also like throws in like, you know, it was our anniversary, but that's like two months ago. But she's like, it's our anniversary. She throws some of that gas. If you're celebrating,

if you're celebrating, you didn't have a chance to celebrate. They're not checking IDs. Well, of like is that she's like basically does that do anything and i was like i'm of course always very nervous anytime anything like that even she's like oh shut up to me oh i'm the king of she didn't say that do anything she's like oh come on or whatever and she goes did that do anything and the woman is very nice uh who was waiting on us and she's like oh uh maybe after june 15th it does he's like oh i'm sorry whatever that's good it felt like two minutes later they brought a giant chocolate milk like milkshake sundae with a brownie sticking out of the top on the table. So we're like, we're like, Whoa, why tell?

Thank you so much. And the thing with that happened is Lindsay is to ask that to, there were two women who were waiting on us. And she asked it to the one who didn't know that she had a nut allergy. Oh, so I was at the Disney doctor though. You think we think Lindsay's going to go in for another, another, uh,

nut allergy. Not the case. Oh, so they put the thing there. They put the thing there. We ask about the nuts and they say, yes, there are walnuts in there.

Lindsay is allergic to tree nuts. And then just because this is just like, so it's such a nice thing for them to have done. Lindsay goes, Oh, it's okay. I'll scrape them off, which is not how this works. By the way, if you have a tree nut allergy yeah it's so sensitive like

one time i had walnuts like at noon and like we kissed at eight o'clock and she was like did you have walnuts earlier you i stopped for coffee on the we were going down to the park once and I got like a pecan twist. I remember I was at Panera and I was like, Oh yeah, give me an extra one. I, I, cause I,

I got it from Mike forgetting about the tree nut conundrum. And I was like, I got you a pastry. And you were like, ah, it's, it's, and so then you were like,

well, now you have to eat a second pecan twist. And I was like, and you were like, Oh you have to eat a second pecan twist and i was like and you were like oh darn oh darn uh so what's going to happen now we there was no way we were going to send this back ask for another one after it's this complimentary thing they just did on a whim because they felt like oh we want to you know do you know, do whatever. So I'm going to have to eat it. I'm going to have to eat this whole thing. And it is massive. There's a picture of it.

It is massive. I once again back up to the City Walk saga. Yes, I said it. You do not have to eat the whole thing. He's making you eat the whole thing. But they were so nice to bring it out. We have to make a very sizable dent in it. There's no waste.

Yeah, waste not want not. Like half or more. or more that's fine yes okay it's not and again it's not a show i mean it's not as crazy as like that monster mini monster or whatever or uh as crazy as the liberty tree meal but i said it to lindsey while it was happening i go i am eating a big thing now and i have to finish a certain amount of it because i wasn't planning on doing that i was planning on on getting my patented two scoop ice cream cone in the end. That's my treat from Disney. So I was like, I don't want like a ton of ice cream earlier.

My yummy treats are coming too early and free. A free yummy treat that's not the same flavor of the yummy treat I wanted later. You know, sometimes change is good. Well, first of all, it was delicious. It was delicious. Yeah. It was delicious. Yeah. So if a wild card treat appears, you know, a wild Pokemon appears, you know, you got

to go with it. Hey, I completely agree. So, so I'm eating this. Lindsay goes, oh, do you think I could just have like a little maybe of like the milkshake part? And she like tries to go, I go, do not. What are you thinking? Don't do it.

I go, do you have your EpiPen? She goes, yeah. I go, no, we don't want to. I go, we don't want to go to the Disneyney doctor we do not i said this to her i do not want to go to the disney doctor and she goes yeah okay you're right and i take a big like i take the spoon i went in and i go there's tons of walnuts in the liquid it's not just on the top or on the brownie i go it's very good you didn't take a sip of that and she goes yeah yeah you're right so i do i eat a lot of it it's great it was great obviously it's obviously not a burden to do it it's just funny that that Didn't take a sip of that. And she goes, yeah, yeah, you're right. So I do. I eat a lot of it.

It's great. It was great. Obviously, it's obviously not a burden to do it. It's just funny that that happened like that. So I eat that. I had a beer. I had just ordered a beer, too. So we were drinking that.

So we leave there. I'm feeling good. I didn't get a ton of sleep. I'm feeling a little like lightheaded. And I also didn't get good sleep either. i went so go anywhere for a year yeah and i'm such a self-sabotager when i'm trying to get to bed and wake up extra early my brain just sabotages me bedtime procrastination there's articles about it now yeah left and right uh yeah yeah your brain screwing it's so weird it was happening just in a couple days yes it's so weird why why

why our brains hate us like that i i have a feeling i know where this is going but i am a nerve that you both absorb some of my qualities uh during the quarantine time and then we're recording in person again it's uh no i think we got it recently oh okay oh like through droplets and aerosols? We caught it. That's it. Back to Zoom. Okay, so I'm interested to see. Tell me, I wonder if you do know where this is going. So we get out of the car. We hit the 80-whatever degree heat,

and I'm feeling good, but I'm feeling a little out of it. I'm feeling a little, you know, you have one drink and a beer, and I'm full of sugar. So I'm just like, I'm feeling fine, but I'm feeling a little you know you have one drink and a beer and i'm full of sugar and yeah so i'm just like i'm feeling fine but i'm feeling a little woozy or whatever uh but not so terribly uh and we're walking and we're walking and all of a sudden i go oh no i think i think there's sunscreen in my eye i oh no and i'm like i'm like trying i'm like huh and this we've all had this you get soap in your eye you get sunscreen your eye once in a while you close your eye you know it tears up and you wipe it on your sleeve and you get it gets out uh this that didn't happen

that easily for me we're getting into disneyland we're walking down main street and i'm like i can't see i like i this won't stop tearing it's bright red what did i scratch my cornea what is going on so we're walking through adventureland i'm going this is really bad and i'm not this doesn't happen to me a lot where i like so like i don't like i'm not like over complaining about like an ailment usually unless it's for comedic effect on a podcast but not this instance i can't see very well i'm my eye is tearing i'm closing it we're walking around i go let's just walk over by uh like the poo gift shop or something for a while let me see if i can get this worked out of my eye or whatever and we're walking by the poo gift shop it's closed i go all right let's go on poo i don't care i don't care about that

right you're still getting on right we got on the ride and i'm like i'm like oh now i'm seeing heffalumps and woozles and like out of one eye oh no you're tripping out and i'm like okay there's not as much light in here so that's good okay good so like and so then it's i'm like okay maybe i'm feeling better i think i'm feeling better we get out the light hits my eye it stings it is stinging so bad and i'm like all right i gotta go to hungry bear i go into hungry bear i start getting a handful of water and dumping them in my left eye yeah and that's you don't want to do that well that's what lindsey was saying and i she was like she was trying to give me she goes oh it's like take like a a paper towel and

dab your like eyelashes a little bit like you're removing like mascara and i go all right i'm trying to do it she's like no that's not how you remove mascara and i go i've only worn mascara like for a play or something i don't know maybe it was just eyeliner i don't think it was mascara so i'm trying to do it trying to get it off it's not working i go i gotta like flush my eye out i'm in a hungry bear i'm waiting till people leave so they don't see this i am taking handfuls of water and splashing them on my face my mask is soaked my mask is like i just dipped my like mouth and splash do you want an eyelid wipe for next time because i started carrying the this is the thing my my eye doctor showed me last year really an eyelid wipe well you close your eyes and you wait you you just

pulled one out physically also for the listener yeah you have this because i finally i i went through all the samples and i finally splurged for a box um uh uh you you wipe you wipe your eyes uh the dirt builds up under your your eyelid and so you wipe your closed eyes and then you rinse it off or they have non-rinse ones well there's a different okay so yeah so that is close to maybe what I did. So we get out hungry bear and I think it's bad. I think it was Gomer's gentleman's lair, of course, is the name of the hungry bear bathroom,

the gentleman's bathroom there. And this is by the way, you're avoiding people. And this is the very spot where you refuse to take off your socks before getting on splash. Right. And where you'd rather do it in the log. So public embarrassment

in this spot is a true nightmare. Well, yeah, and this is the last, like, these are the last remnants of the country bears in Disneyland. I mean, Gomer's bathroom, Gomer from the country bears. You're going to be embarrassed in front of people walking by. You're going to be embarrassed in front of Gomer. Yes, I don't want to look like a fool in front of Gomer. But I did. I mean,

I was, handfuls of water dumping on my eye trying to like i was like waterboarding myself with water in the bathroom when people were gone and i'd have to wait so i'd like kind of like linger in a strange way and then when they were out of the bathroom i would do this and i thought okay i'm like maybe it's getting a little better so i'd go outside and then like we were walking towards haunted mansion and i go okay i think and then it would get worse again it would just be just as bad. And I go, and Lindsay's like, do you want to go to the doctor?

And I swear, like, of course in my head, I go, it's going to be funny if I go to the Disney doctor, cause I'll talk about it. But I was trying to be very authentic. I was trying to be honest. And I was like, no, I think it'll go away. It's going to go away. I don't want to force a doctor visit for this silly thing that's happening so we go on haunted mansion it's low light i'm feeling a little better on haunted mansion i'm closing my eye i get out it's just as bad it is burning at this point it's been 30

minutes ish or whatever of like burning my left eye so she goes go to the disney doctor and i go yeah okay she goes i'll wait in line for pirates and you go to go go to the Disney doctor. And I go, yeah, okay. She goes, I'll wait in line for Pirates and you go to the doctor. So I go, all right. So I walk all the way over. Where is it? Where's the Disney doctor? It's right by the photo. It's off of Main Street.

It's right by Plaza Inn, right? Yes. There's a baby area. There's a weird little corner that kind of just ends up going backstage. I don't really know what's over there. So the Disney doctor is over there. I had never been to a disney i was there once and i think it was because like i had a cut or like i had a bandage that fell off and i needed a new one and they were able to give me a new one and i think

they'll give you you can buy advil or tylenol at most gift shops but i think they'll just give it to you there like i'm not sure he's signed right sign in so yeah i again i never been there lindsey had to go there because she's like hurt her toe really badly in florida but that was the florida disney doctor so i go in here there's no one inside uh there was a very nice calm man who always felt like he was like i was pausing for him to finish his thought but he had finished his thought if that makes sense like rhythm wise where you'd be like all right what's going what's the problem here and i go oh well i i have like a suntan like is there you have an eyewash station or something like my i have lotion in my eye it won't come out i don't think i've scratched it

but it's possible i'm in such pain i'm in such discomfort and he'm in such discomfort. And he's like, okay, well, what's your name? And I go, okay. And I, uh, he took like, there's a form and the form looked like it was full of names. And I look and there were people outside and I go, oh, am I going to have to wait? Like, is it going to be a big wait? Like it's like the ER or not the ER, the, uh, yeah. Well, I guess. With the ticking clock of the day, you're saying like, it's not an annual pass. I don't i don't know when i'm right back and i'm gonna lose some of it to sit in a big line of

the disney doctor yes so so he goes all right well follow me back and i go all right because i was like he was like all right and i was like he's gonna say like go outside and i'll call your name so he goes follow me back and go all right so i'm walking through and i can't see but i'm also because i'm a theme park journalist trying to go like look in the world okay how can i report on what else is here lab coat mickey lab coat probably a lab no lab coat mickey painting nothing no no like yeah goofy like it's not the most themed right it's pretty white yeah it's pretty stethoscope or something. Yeah. Like choking himself accidentally. Or like Goofy misdiagnosing someone. Chip making a makeshift, like, splints for Dale.

Yeah. Yeah, Goofy filled out the wrong pill prescription for some old lady. His eyes are exploding out of his head. Garsh, I killed her. Over-diagnosed. So I'm looking through. I saw a bigger room that looked almost like

like after some sort of disaster. Like there were a lot of cots. There were a lot of like it was a bigger room. I mean really didn't look quite. Oh yeah heat stroke. People need to lie down. I think it was like for that.

I think it was like if dad has had too much heat for the day. Maybe he had a couple too many drinks. He gets to lie down in there. But then he took me into a very small room that was very similar to like a doctor's office room they had the eyewash there and he goes all right let me uh and and i this is my i'm probably remembering half of it because i was still like so disoriented

he goes we have the eyewash station here, but it usually doesn't work. So he goes, here's what you're going to do. Here's what I think you should do. And he takes a towel, and he goes, take the towel, turn the water on, wet the towel. He goes, now pull down your eye like this. Like, pull down the bottom of your eye. Generally, you know how you get suntan lotion, and you go in the pool, and it still stays on? That's probably what's happening to you right now he goes pull the bottom of the eye pull the eye down take the washcloth and just you know go along the eye like like like uh scrub the bottom of your eye and he goes and do that back and forth and i go okay all right so i take it and i do it

like i do it like twice and i'm doing it badly too and i go is it like that and one is like approval and he goes uh well i guess i mean if it feels better like i can't tell you what to do and i go oh yeah and he goes we do as many times as you want and i go oh okay so i'm like trying to like go back and forth a little bit and uh he uh he goes all right does it feel better and i go i think so so he goes all all right, does it feel better? And I go, I think so. So he goes, all right, well, come back if it doesn't. And I go, oh, thank you so much. So I walk out and it still like hurts, but it did work.

It worked. He was absolutely right. It had pooled in there. No water. It wasn't even, it was just stuck. It was just stuck on the bottom of my eyelid and re-irritating it over and over again yeah it's the part like your lids are lubricating your eye and if there's dirt or some other substance it's it's not you know doing it correctly yeah and i ran over lindsey had just gotten in the front of the line of pirates and i just like immediately like jumped over in the line with her oh my god oh you still got on the wow i still got on pirates with her too oh yeah i don't

remember the time right after that i was still like in some uh discomfort so i don't really remember even walking back it was all little you know trauma blurs your memory yeah yeah i remember getting back in line and then going okay and then like 30 minutes later i could feel it was not perfect but it was fine and And now I'm fine. Oh, good. So I was like, wow, what a, what a situation. It really, I mean, obviously in the scheme of things, that's not a serious problem. But if you ever had something stuck in your eye, you can feel kind of panicked about it. Yeah.

Yeah. That's ruining the day. Yeah. It's mixed with a full tummy and a bunch of, like, the chill of Carthay followed by the panic of eye pain. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Mm-hmm.

Jeez. Yeah. Boy, well, when we say you survived this episode, you were going to mean it. Yeah. This is a harrowing one. Yeah. Yeah. That's insane.

Oh, my God. Yeah, god yeah um well let's we we should start winding it down sure what let's just like let's let's you know call out some stuff yeah great i had some other i mean i did my mark twain i did a maiden voyage on mark twain i didn't do the train here's what it was explained to me at the main street station i could board the train at toontown and then i could exit at any station but i could only board at toontown really and when i went over to toontown it was looked like a shit show and i was like ah skipping this one uh like that that was one of the outdoor lines that just seemed like out it was unclear where it started and ended so are they reserving the train station for the distant character hangs yeah that's kind of what was like the steps where you would walk up to get on the

train at main street is where uh mickey and minnie are hanging out and like a lot during the day oh yeah a bunch of times are they out here's donald and me. Oh, boy. Yeah. And they really, from up on their perch, some steps up, they do give you a moment, goofy posed. They, like, I think the distant character hangs are good. I agree. It's funny to see a bunch of them. It's probably good for them that kids aren't harassing them and pulling on stuff. It probably makes it an easier job for them.

I think those things are really nice kind of a more confusing one here's jack sparrow on the second floor above the pirates of the caribbean kind of hidden by tree branches i looked from a couple angles couldn't really make him out i'm pretty sure you can only see him if you were directly below him that was a little weird couldn't hear him either lindsey said because I didn't see Jack, she said she saw Jack Sparrow walking back to exit to like go on break or whatever. And she's got a kid, goes, hey, Jack Sparrow. And he turned around to like wave or say hello or whatever.

And then Jack Sparrow turned back around and go back to the exit and the door was closed and he smacked right into the door. Oh. No. Which I hope he's fine, obviously. But it's a comedic uh uh situation i just want to prove i forgot i took a photo of my eye uh here it's probably irritated

right yeah here you go yeah it looks a little red from from rubbing terrifying that's like that would be the last frame of a of a movie oh yeah but we're looking at your dead body and like yes whatever horrors you'd witnessed in the third act. Yeah, the mask is soaked. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And your hair is like...

Oh, wait, I got a different one too. Look at both eyes. Like... Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. Compared to the other one, compared to the well one.

Yes. Yeah, yeah. Jesus. I'll get you a bottle of Optive Tears. that's what i usually carry on me it's kind of sensitive eyes uh thank you for opt yeah giving me my optive tears uh i met this we met this crazy bird when we were eating popcorn it was uh called him eric i thought he looked uh like he wanted to uh kill me uh jane thought he was friendly. But that beak seems like a weapon.

So I don't know. He was mad dogging me a lot. Now I have a Disney bird question, which is we felt like we were seeing a lot more geese than before. Yes, we saw geese. Really? Okay, you noticed this too.

Yep. What's going on with this? Why are there more geese? My guess would be that since there were a lot fewer people there for a year, that more birds and geese were like, hey, this is our home now. And now that... that empty spot yeah and now they're kind of stuck there because

they're like well we were here why are you all coming here yeah we saw a cat we saw a cat from the haunted mansion line it was on the big hill the that the tree goes above the mansion kind of those little things really make you feel like we're back. Yeah. We didn't see any cats. We saw, yeah, a lot of birds, a lot of ducks. Like, the ducks are even bolder than I remember them, where you're like, I almost ran into you. Like, you are not worried about me at all. Like, you are a duck, and you are not concerned that I'm a human and that you should get away from me. Yeah, we saw that. I'm trying to think.

We had a Ronto wrap of course um we had we did right yeah as we said in our episode about it on the second gate i think it's a must do i was really looking forward to it aaron loved the veggie one a lot um and i think okay so on the second gate we all made ronto wraps at home to varying degrees of success and the i think a big thing we missed i think that uh i think the the bread there's more going on than you remember it had been a long time there's you feel the grill of it there's texture there's like more complexity to that bread than you recall and i think that's something that we all we all missed yeah i agree yeah um but yeah that was good that was sort of

our last thing we had um i did yeah i had my free ice cream treat earlier in the day. Lindsey's first time doing Rise of the Resistance. Wait, all of our significant others had not done Rise of the Resistance? We did not allow them to go with us the first time. We went alone. Boys club. Yeah. We were gatekeeping Rise of the Resistance.

We were gate, yes. Yeah. You'll, yes. In a couple months, you'll get it. When the gentlemen say it's okay, when we deem the ride acceptable, we will allow the ladies to see it after. Hopefully a year later. Over a year later. That's weird.

We all had that same experience. Yeah. Yeah. Did it let anyone down? Aaron was abuzz. Super thrilled with it. Fun to watch that happen. Yeah.

Lindsay was very, yeah, she really liked it. She loved, yeah, the reveal with the back ship, you know. Yeah. Yeah. You forget at the end that that is a big surprise. It almost wasn't one of the big things I was talking about, and that was what her up hey and you just love him by then that was so exciting yeah the little misdirect with the ship with the door yeah yeah i um yeah it's still so great it was so nice to be on that specifically broke during the day that took up a lot of time and it is you're right jason it is

way up in the corner if you're gonna make the sojourn it's like it's not the same as like star tours is down now we'll come back it's kind of centrally located you gotta really commit or are we going to walk all the way over and it just it did just take up an inordinate amount of the day not really because it's such a great ride but then it made us we had to gun it after that to get a couple major things in i since we got it at seven i didn't try to do do it at noon but but mine was noon i had yours was new i like waited one millisecond and checked something like is that my pass number and i've oh yeah you have to do it in the first 10 seconds or you're screwed

it is yeah if you don't know about all this there's two entry points you do it before you get to disneyland at 7 a.m uh just let me try to get on and get a spot and then you do it at noon when you're at disneyland i think it's gonna be the same for the spider-man it is and you cannot have both at the same time so the problem there is if we want to do rise the day we go is that it'll be we have to get the spider-man reservation before noon we have to use it before noon okay oh yeah i'm i only have dca's yeah i only have dca too so you're on your own he's going to for that as well okay there in addition to a special special guest okay um the yeah but i yeah i did the noon and it worked which which got me on at five, but then it broke.

And so, yeah, it did take over the day. Yeah. A stressful thing, but also funny. Fun shades of when Rise of the Resistance opened. That first morning, your ultimate checking event. Right. Like, you really having to nail it. Watching everybody with phones and getting happy or unhappy.

It is a funny thing that happens in the park now. It's a little mass phone event. Yes. So, yeah, she really had a good time with it. I assume I probably tried to tell her some of it, but it's been a year since. So, I'm sure that's a lot fresher. Yeah. I think I had said, like, yeah, it's great.

It's like indoors and outdoors there's inside parts and outside parts and she vaguely recalled me saying that but could not picture how that played out exactly yeah and also it really it really is like you see pictures you see video of the ad at room i think she watched a video of that part i said i'm not gonna spoil all of it but you gotta see this and she's like okay and then you do it in person and it's a whole other but why does that part not look impressive on a video and in person it's perfect it's just like scale doesn't yeah it doesn't translate all i mean i've taken i'll take pictures of stuff that i think like oh look at this big crazy thing and it just looks like shit yeah if you don't have lenses or anything to support it yeah it really has to be a

like shot in a specific way to convey that i think yeah jane had watched videos but she she was like that canon room looks a little scary i was like yeah it is it is it's really you really think they're gonna hit you uh and she doesn't like the stuff guys above her you know robots above her and stuff above it there's a lot above you in that ride point of yeah yeah yeah so so that was yeah so she liked it yeah it was it was we had a good time good good so um downtown did so downtown disney uh i alluded to this earlier this is the most crowded i have ever seen downtown disney because the parks close both bars closed right at seven and then if other people were just coming in to go to downtown disney um but i didn't have too bad of experience we got ice cream at salt and straw uh i think i'd

only ever been one other time uh and then i got a coffee uh i got an americano at starbucks for the drive back and for whatever reason they're like don't forget to use your 50 off coupon and i was like okay i i don't know why i have this like i don't know what you're talking about but i'll take it and then jane got a uh earl of sandwich to go so no the way it wasn't too bad there was just a lot of people oh and a lot of outdoor lines because that's why it seemed probably crowded because everything's out there they were staggering letting people into store it was like a 30 minute wait to get in the world at disney wow it's like yeah we looked in star traders we stay at most of the new stuff we're good you know yeah yeah all right huh um yeah i'm trying to think big other stuff with me the um i really i was telling you guys off the show the other i told jason this

that like i really think that i never felt more like the the pandemic is over or like the worst of the pandemic is over than being on space mountain the most indoor-y ride that there is yeah most the the most iconic like you go to disneyland for that and you yell and you're so happy. And it really felt like, wow, this is it. It really like came over me in a wave in Space Mountain. Like a good place to end up having that feeling. Yeah, I think we were hoping to have more of a triumph. But when it's still dystopian mask world i think we were

still like it's great to be back uh it's soon like in six months we'll be like yeah no really well maybe i felt it in space mountain because you can't see dystopian space whatever it might be why it hit me and then you don't i don't remember i think they just staggered rose i don't think there was any bizarre plexiglass going on which there's all that those things are interesting little you know the haunted mansion stretching room they give you numbers and spots to stand on y'all hug the oh um it's yeah it's weird i realized we broke covid protocol in the lieutenant beck spaceship because like i was like we got to get right in front where the where he is yes and we

were just like right on this like railing and i realized like halfway through that there was a number we were supposed to be in the corner they were supposed to shove us in the corner in a different place and i was like oh no we i didn't get any direction we broke yeah on that well trying to maintain the uh kayfabe of the ride get in get in also by the way there's numbers on the floor and you need to correspond to that because of the numbers rebel resistance numbers by the way cover them like the yeah the uh and when you're in the start of story it's like don't worry i'm gonna give you a number a color it's uh red you're gonna go on the floor it's red and i hate you because you're a rebel and bad blah blah blah like but they're trying to shout they're trying to do two things at once

and you know shows are debating whether like we should like law and order like they're wearing they acknowledge covid it'd be so funny if like a disney plus show like the bad star wars the bad batch is suddenly like and covid 19 is really throwing the rebellion for a loop like wait what did he say he changes every other term but not that one uh yeah that'll be interesting to see if baby Grogu has to deal with it on a season of Mandalorian. Yeah. It's a big scary droid. COVID-19. Like a General Grievous relative.

Loki knocks over one of Owen Wilson's test tubes. Oh, no. Oh, no. Mischievous Loki. Wow. Ka-chow. Ka-chow. Ka-chow. You better say ka-chow.

I kept saying ka-chow and Lizzie said, what is that? I go, it's Lightning McQueen's catchphrase. Yeah. It's ka-chow. Ask any child here. Well, first off, don't ask any child, but they would be able to tell you in theory what ka-chow meant. It took me years after seeing cars to

know that that was a catchphrase of this uh here i tried to do the avery monson hat trick of fortune tellers all right and fortune red was out of commission or in a closed part of the store like a yeah like a tarp there's a person with a like at a desk, and then Fortune Red was behind. They were counting people ins and outs. Okay. But Esmeralda and Shrunken Ned both running. Okay. I forgot all about them.

Yeah. Next time. So the details are going, too. That's great. Yeah. I mean, I did Big Thunder. What did I do? Yeah, Big Thunder.

We had to do that. We actually did not step foot in Tomorrowland. Wow. Just time-wise. Yeah, we crossed through it. That was about all we had time for. And yeah, we didn't. Yeah, I don't know.

I think we hit the highlights. There was, it's being, not having gone on a lot of these rides for so long, I have to go back now and check because there was stuff in the Haunted Mansion graveyard where I go, is that new? There's a telescope up on the veranda i don't know was that always there was there always a telescope i knew to me yeah it seemed yeah it's first time i really noticed it too there was like at the end of the graveyard there was a weird scene with like a guy maybe with like a bell or something people are gonna be really mad if this has been there since the opening or something but we both were like is that new that doesn't look familiar i

gotta go back and go side by side i mean we'll discuss this of course in the haunted mansion episode in three or four years whenever that part of the ride comes up but uh i'll go back and do that but that's i just a larger point just to make is that ever not after not going on these there's always a couple things because there's so much going on where you go is that new yeah was this hologram wall always there in tomorrowland i know the wall was always there but was it always like colored like this oh i think that's a fairly that's recent yeah okay that's recent i remember the discourse around that i liked it it looked yeah great uh good like disneyland twitter discourse always is uh i feel like there was i feel like it was mostly accepted but i feel like there were some people that didn't

like it people found a way to not like paint on a wall yeah sure they they will there's a will there's a way it looked appropriately future-y but it was clearly like you know um decorative landscape it wasn't like there was no instagram spot there was no stand here for a picture spot so maybe that's why i was like oh that looks nice yeah yeah um let me just say this greater arc of because like you know it was there there was the running guy and we had these great moments like do we have time to do this and i think all right we can't do soren and guardians so which one do we prioritize and we did pick guardians it was so great to go out on that but we do have time for uh for a little mermaid because that'll be shorter so like doing all this math

again was kind of exciting but we you know the time was a little crunch partially because we also took a big long breather as guests of the grand californian to chill out at the craftsman oh yeah bar sure which is outdoors and by their pool and this typically would be open to everybody as guests of the Grand Californian, to chill out at the Craftsman Bar, which is outdoors and by their pool. And this typically would be open to everybody, but we realized after we got the hotel, oh my God, we're the only people who get this. It was so sparsely populated. And again, any new parents,

just know the feeling of the first time you get to step away. This was the chillest thing ever. The food there is fantastic. They do a really good, if you like the vibe of, um, of the whole grizzly peak area,

it's like getting to just sit in that for a while. That big tree trunk. That's the water slide base over there. It's just such a, like, we just wanted that resort thing too. It's the Disneyland resort. We got our resort vibe.

Food's great. We great we both uh ended up drinking a perfect day ipa and that's how we felt it really was a perfect day a like music guitar version of warmth of the sun legit one of my favorite one of the best beach boys songs uh kind of a dusk boy it was wonderful then leaving from guardians like taking that little stroll uh grabbing another beer on the way up taking it back to the room to the balcony where we have a view i was joking about it's a view of downtown disney and that's funny and silly but also a view of the distant spires of Space Mountain, of Splash Mountain. And it was just after all this lockdown and all of the newborn madness that we've had to get to relax and just have a beer up there. Boy, it was just so great to feel so chill.

You really took it in that night. Got to have the leisurely wake up of 8.15 as opposed to what we're usually doing. Probably another new parent that you know that first time where you don't have to wake up and immediately deal with stuff. So relaxed. Again, I go out on the patio and just take it in. Like, wow, it's really feeling like we're turning a new leaf and it's over. And we got to relax. It was a perfect day, the ipa said this is i just feel well rested i maybe could not have not felt better i reached into my hoodie pockets and felt immense searing pain on my right hand

oh no an unrecognizable pain what in the world is there a like a barb from a barb wire in there wait a minute it can only be and i kept digging through the pocket and there was a bee in there wow this was the morning the sweater had only been inside somewhere in the park or at california adventure a bee stowed away and stayed in the room the entire night and then stung me so hard still see it still wow still feel it a little bit what do you mean i got stung by a bee so mike you're telling your story of woe wow jason you had your immediate hike to have to do and i have like i'm truly it is like a movie moment of like deep breath ah life's pretty good then i got stung so hard by a bee so i guess wow this was nice for everybody but we all got punished in our own ways

yeah that's true you know i i've had a number of conversations with people and and they're like you know i feel a little oh myself included i feel a little overwhelmed by getting back out into the world uh it's also refreshing it's invigorating it's nice to do but emotionally and mentally like after 14 15 months it can be very draining and very shocking so uh when it manifests in physical woes uh that that feels like insult injury sometimes the stress manifested into a bee yeah scott and i'm like did i make up the bee was the bee just in my head like tyler durden you absorbed my anxiety just manifests as b sometimes sorry you got that too i've seen that happen to jason where he's really

stressed and all of a sudden a few bees just appear yeah start stinging him repeatedly yeah and i psychosomatically like leaked the like my body was like i'm gonna leak the lotion into his left eye because i want in the same way that my body self-sabotaged on it before by not allowing me to go to sleep the same way this happened so yeah you're probably right we've talked about spirits in the air and all this is it possible that the the suntan lotion in the eye and the bee were both manifestations of Walt. He was preemptively punishing us for that riff, that rant, the thing we did earlier in the show. He's like, I'm not going to be happy about this. I'm not a flame.

I don't have a bunch of pee in a warehouse somewhere. I rarely kept my toenails and thumbnails around or did anything with them. This crass show that you boys do, I'm not happy with it. Is he part of, because there was a weird full moon this week, one of the blood moons or some sort of blood, like something was going on with the moon this week, throwing stuff off. You're saying that Walt created a blood moon?

Does he, does that like the eclipse powers Imhotep? Does Walt come back, does he start to materialize like a happy haunt does he materialize let me think about it uh yes okay exactly correct that's what happens so when the next time there's a blood moon keep your eye out but for for uh you know a beloved figure named walt disney he might sting the palm of your hand. I'm gonna sting you? Make you go blind for half an hour. I'm back. I'm gonna sting you.

I'm gonna ruin your eyesight. I'm gonna, I'm not happy with all the changes at the resort, but boy, that Josh DeMauro is one hunk. That's a looker. Now he's got the Disney look. He could replace a young Kurt Russell

In one of our films I'd share a grilled cheese with him Off the hot plate any day I bet Suzanne Plachette wants a date with Josh tomorrow Say you two nudges them together Beach party movie Annette and Josh tomorrow Write the script

We'll get the boys on it Wow All right My brother's writing a song For it The summer beach party Josh tomorrow Three piece suit

At the beach Three piece suit Yeah He's always wearing Three piece suits Josh tomorrow Oh I see Yeah I thought you i thought

it was a joke about annette's one-piece bathing suit which is of course what walt insists that this is true wanted her to wear because the two wear three pieces more pieces more chase cover up and that i want to wear a three-piece bathing suit i'm still so mad that Annette wanted to show skin that I'm going to sting everybody as a bee for the next century. Walt, come on. Yeah, cut us a break, Walt, but look, we love your park. It was great to be back. It was great to be home.

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Yeah, you gotta wait. Thanks for listening. Be on the lookout for bees and happy visits to the park, everyone. Whoa, this is really energetic violins. I feel like I'm walking the darkened tram path back to the parking garage. Do we have enough photos between the three of us to make a little

montage with this? Oh, I have a ton of photos, yeah. It's just mostly my eye in the montage. Well, that should be. Flipping the photo, zooming in on the photo. I don't have the B, but I'll try to find clip art of an angry B. All right, great, great. Forever Dog.

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