Podcast: The Ride - Beetlejuice's Graveyard Revue with Jayne Claire

Episode Date: October 16, 2020

Jayne Claire (singer, Jason's girlfriend) joins us talk her time in the theme park trenches. Including a stint in the final iteration of the show where Beetlejuice taught the Universal Monsters how to... rock and roll!  Ghostbusters Spooktacular episode now available at The Second Gate: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide VOTE! Verify that you're registered and make a plan to vote on or before November 3rd 2020. Find voting resources here: https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/vote Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 FOREVER! DOG! Jane Clare joins us to talk Beetlejuice's Graveyard Review and much more on today's Hauntcast The Fright. Welcome to another installment of Hauntcast the Fright, the show where we, as we get into the meat of the episode, step into the blasts of giant fog machines for 90 seconds in order to change into our official podcasting regalia. I am normally Jason Sheridan, but this month I'm Jack-O-Lantern Simondon. Here, as always, with the creature
Starting point is 00:01:12 once known as Michael R. Carlson, but this month known as... This month I'm known as I Kill Gerson, but I want to change this because last week it sounded like i was admitting to killing girls that is not what i am about so i am changing my name to pike innocent of all allegations son but what does this do for your reputation as a lady killer for the month of october we're going to forget that phrase even existed alongside.
Starting point is 00:01:46 My name is a descriptor. It may be. We'll resume it after this whole thing blows over. You can't erase that reputation. The world. I don't want to, but for this month, I don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Joining us also. Yeah, I amended mine, but in a more minor way, I'm just going to'm gonna be scott grave digner i'm gonna add an n in there to tie it into my real name which i'm not gonna repeat because that you don't need to know it for october yeah good point yeah just a little adjust nips and tucks uh it's it's ever it's ever flowing we're always always adjusting. As my scandal grows, I think perhaps I will also have to amend.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Hopefully, it's going to be done here. Yeah, nip it in the bud. I think you're fine. This October surprise really took me by surprise. It's the scandal that could bring the whole thing down. Absolutely. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:42 We're talking about Beetlejuice's Graveyard Review today and we have a special guest coming all the way from the other room of the apartment that I am sitting in she's a singer she's a theme park professional and she is my girlfriend
Starting point is 00:02:58 please welcome Jane Clare hi sweetie hello can I be Jane's scare for now wow it's so easy that one sets right in there um hi hey thanks for thanks for doing this i just want to paint a quick picture for the listener uh jane jane is sitting on a couch and jason is sitting next to the oven because of audio concerns we had to go through a whole thing just now to figure out what the best way to get audio that was clean was going to want echo and
Starting point is 00:03:30 such um yeah so exactly because yeah because like lest we started to think that two people could have in the room chemistry on a podcast in 2020 no no. It needs to be as clunky as possible. Yes. So yeah, we fumbled around a little bit, but now we've got it. And honestly, this is actually where Jason usually records the podcast when he's doing it remotely, next to that oven. I assume because perhaps you put cookies in at the start of a record. Okay, here it goes. All right. Well, now now so uh yeah i made a little spider hole this is where i usually record i pull two kitchen chairs if i record at jane's sometimes i record at my house uh but when i'm at jane's uh i pull two kitchen chairs into the kitchen
Starting point is 00:04:20 and the reason for this is because um there is a wall unit air conditioner that i was concerned about picking up and in the spring when it was more uh mild and chilly we would we would just turn it off because there is a ceiling fan uh and then we i recorded the griffin newman episode here, and that went for three hours, and it was like an oven in here by the time it was done. Well, you need to change your climate in general. You have to really think about it before a Griffin episode, because you know you're going to be there for half a day.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Exactly. Yes, that is true. And Jane is very patient, but even she has her limits. I'm just excited that I get to be a part of one and don't have to be quiet in the next room for a couple hours. It's so fun. Your usual role. Yes, indeed. Do you ever hear Jason say stuff? Because like Lindsay, oftentimes when we would be recording at our apartment, she would yell stuff if she was in the kitchen and she heard something and she disagreed with a thing or she agreed with it, she would yell. Do you ever find yourself hearing something Jason's saying
Starting point is 00:05:31 and going like, I'd like to scream that's wrong or that's right? Definitely, I think it. And then after I'll be like, did you say this? And then I'll be like, oh yeah, or like, oh crap, or like, ah, it's fine, or like, what? I it's fine or like what i don't know yeah i don't know i feel weird like interrupting it i don't want to be well maybe this has to open it up maybe now we have to allow the the interruption the the in the next room interruption uh now we've introduced you uh to the audience officially uh i yes i think from now on if jason says something that's really wrong just feel free
Starting point is 00:06:06 to yell in the background i have permission now so okay sounds good i have another issue with the way that that introduction happened which is that jason when you're introducing your girlfriend on this podcast what you're supposed to do is say my love in a way that makes everyone very uncomfortable that's the that's the standard very introduction of a significant other very suspicious that you're hiding something you're like going overboard to make events uh i try to give you her professional bona fides uh to not try and like uh make being my girlfriend the most important thing is surely surely not i mean it's the most important thing to me uh but well thank you that was very nice yeah i think you hit the right balance uh and if the listener doesn't know what
Starting point is 00:07:00 scott is talking about he's talking about my introduction of lindsey's first appearance on the podcast which some people considered a bit strange not to me i thought it was normal yeah i don't know what it was like this like you like shifted into a register i'd never heard i just like it's like you were playing in a new scale that i was unfamiliar with well that's my love voice and i don't really show it to the audience you know the voice is love it means i'm in love i am very very uh i'm very i suppress everything we all know that so love had to eke out somehow it eked out in a strange way that time what can i say all that of your your vocal cords uh something wrong there's something wrong with me okay fine we got to the bottom of it and then uh the other day i immediately put you
Starting point is 00:07:54 in um in the dog house because we were on a zoom oh my god we're gonna talk about this well we'll get to that when lindsey does the show but yeah i think like two years ago she had like light like flagged tower of terror and i forgot i just forgot there was another episode that i think we're gonna do with her that was more forefront in my mind of like oh that's the next lindsey episode um but i just i look i forgot and, I got called out in the middle of a Zoom birthday party. Let's just put it that way. That all of us were on. Organized by Jane, where everyone was wearing Spider-Man masks.
Starting point is 00:08:32 And in the midst of the spider revelry, some very awkward moments occurred. Yes. Yeah. So we'll continue to break me down in that future episode. And then also one of my old friends, we've talked about this before, I think in the next couple of months, maybe a Wisconsin Dolls episode,
Starting point is 00:08:54 so we can break me down even further. Oh, new angles of attack. On that episode. Fantastic. And that puts my mind at ease because I just know my ass is going to get roasted today. I guess we should just get into it then. Yeah, let's stop talking about our nonsense. No, yeah, but well, that's, you know, there was the question.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Yeah, you forgot to give Lindsay the topic that she flagged. But this topic obviously had to be flagged for Jane because Jane is a performer in Beetlejuice. Well, that's the thing. I want to say Beetlejuice's Graveyard Rebute. You were in a Beetlejuice something or other because the name changed a bunch of times. What were you in? So I was in Beetlejuice's Graveyard Mashup, which was the final version before the entire theater was demolished for Fast and Furious Supercharged. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Oh, the tragedy of tragedies. So that puts it in Florida, because you... Well, this show hasn't been in Hollywood for a while. You did work in Florida, and you've been out here, and you've worked at Universal out here as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:08 So I actually did my last show at Beetlejuice like a week or two before I left for L.A. The show was closing about the same time that I was leaving, which ended up working out really nice. And yeah, so I did my last show, which I found on YouTube. And I'm so happy that somebody got my very last show. Because as I was watching it, I was like, oh, I remember doing that thing and that thing. Oh, my God, this is my last ever show. Somebody captured it. Like, I was really happy, like, to have that.
Starting point is 00:10:37 That's amazing. Wait, this was passed to us and I watched it. And I didn't realize it was literally the last one. That's pretty special. My last one. Oh, your last. Not the last one ever. That was my last show and yeah, because I
Starting point is 00:10:52 was watching it and I noticed there's some times where Beetlejuice will give me a little kiss or one of the dancers would hold my hand and I was like, oh my god, this was my last one. I had to try to not cry that whole show. Do you know how many shows you did in total or about? That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Probably, I don't know. Yeah, we would do like, it depends on the schedule, but we would do maybe four shows a day. And I was a sub, so I would be there maybe once or twice a week at most uh because I kind of in Florida I kind of hopped around different venues so I wasn't full-time at that venue but I would do um like the Diagon Alley show I would do one of the shows in Hogsmeade um and then I would do Beetlejuice so I would be working at the park like four days a week, but between like three different venues. So I don't know, a couple dozen, maybe more than that of Beetlejuice. It definitely became in my body enough that when I was watching it back the other day,
Starting point is 00:11:53 I started doing it. I was like, I don't know how I know this still. Like, this is weird. Like, possessed you. Yeah, right. I'm being taken over. We should, I should say, one of my favorite stories about your,
Starting point is 00:12:14 your theme park resume came up because, so we were doing the Downtown Disney ordeal and on the episode about the Lego store in Downtown Disney, Mike revealed to us about the Lego store in downtown Disney, Mike revealed to us about the Lego friends, the backstory about the friends, the Lego friends. They're just a bunch of fun-loving gals. And we had fun. We were talking about the backstory.
Starting point is 00:12:38 We showed the picture. And after we recorded that episode, Jane, you and I were hanging out. And I was talking about the recording. I was like, by the way, do you know about the Lego friends? And I held up a picture and you were like, yeah, I know the Lego friends. That's me, idiot.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Like I was like, what? And I look and the picture that Mike had found from the official website of Legoland, Jane was in. This is true. Can confirm. Yeah. from the official website of Legoland. Jane was in. This is true. Can confirm. Yeah. So wait, I found a photo.
Starting point is 00:13:13 And yeah, remind me what I found. It was just a picture of people playing the Lego Friends in Legoland. Was that what it was? I think it was the promo shot of us on what was called Mia's Riding Adventure, which was one of the rides in Heartlake City, which is what the town was called. So the franchise had already existed. The toys came out as kind of a kind of like this is our Barbie type thing, but it's our own IP for Lego, I guess, maybe. To kind of appeal to like young girls in the cliche you know world that lego likes to live in
Starting point is 00:13:45 i guess um but yeah we were on the ride on the horses because we did a whole day i was one of the media girls which was like a big deal because i never got to be one of the media girls so i got to be the media girl so i was in all the pictures and promo and opening day and stuff um so yeah whenever those pr pictures come around i'm always like oh there it is wow so so yeah media girl was like that meant that you would be out front i assumed they would put like the best performers of some kind like is that kind of what the thinking was when like they would choose people um there's a lot of things that go into it but i would say i mean that sounds like i'm tooting my own horn and I definitely don't mean that, but I had to work hard to become a media girl.
Starting point is 00:14:28 No, it was kind of like whoever they thought, like, yeah, who was the most prepared at that point? Because some stuff gets kind of thrown in last minute or who they know is reliable when things get a little chaotic because some people fall apart more quickly. And like, for example, the show we did that's actually online like that all the like attractions magazine and everything covered my track for my song skipped and they had to go back and there's like this look of panic on my face because I was like you've got to be kidding me and we it was fine but I was like you never know what's gonna happen on like the show day because
Starting point is 00:15:01 everything's kind of thrown together so it's a couple things um yeah I mean that was really fun it was really fun to open a show and um actually play a character that's like a real character that's already around because um a lot of the other stuff I do it's like or I did is like versions of so like for the Hogwarts school choir I wasn't like a specific Hogwarts character I was like a prefect who's a Gryffindor. So like this was, Lego was the only time I got to play like an actual character,
Starting point is 00:15:30 which felt really cool because like there was also a fountain outside and I got to be a voice in the fountain. So for years, I think they changed it now, but for a couple of years, there was like, you could step on something and you'd hear my voice and that was really cool. Whoa, part of an attraction,
Starting point is 00:15:44 part of a thing in a physical place. That's the dream. What did you say? Do you remember any lines from this character? Yes. It was just one and I have a video of it and it was just, you're the star. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Pretty good. Pretty fun. Wow. And it wasn't like the fountain. There's that fountain at Universal or they used to have it where the performer was somewhere else and they would be talking.
Starting point is 00:16:10 It was different than that or was that? No, it was different from that. So the theme of Heart Lake City was like girl power, friendship, but also like music and like being a rock star, pop star kind of vibe. So it was a literal heart-shaped pool that was there because it used
Starting point is 00:16:26 to be cypress gardens and cypress gardens had a heart-shaped pool already that's a whole other thing um but you would step on different like shapes and each lego friend would say different things as you stepped on it and what would trigger did i miss what who which one were you of the lego friends oh um i opened as olivia i think and then i also cross-trained into emma and stephanie briefly but i olivia was my main character yeah of course of course we all know them very well olivia is the book is sort of a is olivia a bookworm or just olivia glasses? So Olivia, honestly, okay, Emma liked karate. So she had like karate. It's so ridiculous, y'all.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Okay, so Andrea was the lead and she was like the pop star singer. So the whole concept, I feel like we're talking about Lego Friends now. No, I love this. Okay, so the whole concept of the show that i did was called lego friends to the rescue so andrea was like i have this big show in heartlake city but i'm nervous because it's not going well and i need my friends to help me get through it so we came to the rescue and then like did the show with her and it was like power of friendship which was literally one of the songs um so yeah one girl was like really like stephanie was like i'm the
Starting point is 00:17:46 tech girl and i'll handle your sound and lighting and like one girl's like i'm good with decorations and one girl mia mia's like into animals it really had nothing to do with it it was just like put a paw print on her costume and well she'll wear pants and not skirts like everybody else she's a tomboy this is dense mythology he is throwing blood at the audience I'm on a I got obsessed with I was talking a lot
Starting point is 00:18:16 of disney.fandom.com last week and now I'm on bricamedia.org for Olivia wait I'm sorry this is bricapedia but the web address is bricamedia.org For Olivia Wait I'm sorry this is Brickapedia But the web address is Brickamedia So if you want Brickapedia go to Brickamedia.org
Starting point is 00:18:31 And when you look up Olivia Somebody has taken the time to list Every outfit Olivia has ever Worn this is one of the densest Things I've ever seen amber vest Light pink skirt and white shoes Mag amber vest light pink skirt and white shoes magenta top light blue skirt and white shoes
Starting point is 00:18:48 I'm scared to see very normal very cool yeah yeah yeah normal stuff to spend your time doing for no pay I swear I think I've like seen people like I've seen the Wikipedia's for people who are like running for president that are like way less thorough than the Olivia
Starting point is 00:19:04 page this just this goes and goes and um uh i'm i'm disturbed i'm gonna try oh there's a lot of like a wait is it like her address they have addresses what are you talking about they have their address wait no maybe this is like codes don't even know this they are doxing olivia has been doxed by Bricka Media. Olivia and Emma have been doxed. Is Bricka Media like an Alex Jones or like a Matt Drudge type website, Scott? Are you sure you're not on like an alt-right Lego website? It's like it's a QAnon world that believes that Heartlake City is a real place and that these little creatures are like throwing the power balance. I think the numbers I'm seeing are the codes of the Lego sets.
Starting point is 00:19:52 So 41033 Jungle Falls Rescue is the name of the set, not an address of a place. Olivia is part of the George Soros gang. Oh no. We gotta get some people over to Jungle Falls Rescue.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Part of the Illuminati. Olivia is part of the Illuminati. Well, this is almost too perfect of a transition. Because, Jane, when you were... Legoland used to be this botanical garden. Cypress Gardens. Cypress Gardens. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:22 And you told me once about the building they would use for private parties and rehearsal space sometimes was kind of like a, like you would describe it as a big old house, right? Yeah. Like a certain style of like, like a big old house with big columns. What is that?
Starting point is 00:20:42 A plantation house. It was a plantation house it was okay uh yes unfortunately this was the deep south and you know uh the history came along with it uh and they tried their best to make it kid friendly and uh you know you adapt and do what you can. But yes, we did rehearse in like this giant mansion plantation house where it was like weirdly empty with like a grand staircase. But upstairs, there was like one suite that was themed to Lego friends that you could win to stay in. But the rest of the house was like so creepy and empty. It was so weird. And like, yeah, it was a weird. This is a haunted mansion, essentially.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Partially themed to Lego friends instead of ghosts. Precisely. Wow. And the other place you told me you rehearsed at was. Oh, yeah. Oh, so the, yeah. Legoland did what they could. And the other place we rehearsed was the 4D theater
Starting point is 00:21:46 but like after hours and we would be in the front where there was like all that space between the audience and the screens but not all the special effects turned off at night so we'd be like running the show and then like like puffs of air would come out and scare us so bad because like they were timed and I don't know why they didn't shut off. So we'd be running the show and be like, okay, guys, let's do this. And just all this stuff would come out, and it scared me. Because as a kid, I was scared of everything in theme parks, and I always was like, you can't go past that line because someone will come out and get you.
Starting point is 00:22:18 So I was a little bit scared. Sure. You're in it after hours. Yeah, and gas is shooting at you. Oh, my God. Yeah my god yeah fog that evil fog that teens love uh uh when you were a kid you said you were scared of everything were you like scared obviously and intrigued because you ended up being a performer in these shows or was it truly fear yeah so i mean so i grew up up in Orlando for a lot of my childhood.
Starting point is 00:22:48 We moved around a lot, but then I went back as an adult. So I guess about half of my life spent in Orlando. So we went to Disney World pretty much every weekend when I was five till I was 10. We had like passes and we lived. Wow. Yeah. So I definitely really liked the entertainment. And if there was like an empty little spot or a
Starting point is 00:23:06 stage I remember because I'm also the youngest and like just love attention which Jason knows nothing about and I would um like hop on the little stages but I was like cute I was like five and I'd hop on the little like stages that they'd have and like start singing and people would like clap and shit so I think like I was destined to do what i did um but no i was scared more of like like attractions i think because my imagination is so wild which is why i think still scare me as an adult because i would like start to think like this could happen and be like well this will happen this will happen so my imagination would go before my like reality would sure um so were you more did you did you like the shows at theme parks more than the rides
Starting point is 00:23:45 or was it was it both i would say probably yes um all of my family did though too so like my favorite show was the hunchback of notre dame um that they had at mgm when it was back when it was mgm i remember that show like so vividly i I thought it was so amazing. And I do think that's part of the reason I wanted to like be a performer, maybe specifically theme park. I really liked that. And yeah, I mean, I liked the rides fine, too. But I was always more interested in like what was going on entertainment wise, I think. Sure. Which we kind of like neglect shows a lot.
Starting point is 00:24:24 This is a different perspective um I yeah yeah I don't know we yeah we we've missed a lot we haven't talked about that hunchback thing and here it's one of your big influences oh it's so good it's on YouTube and it's so good so good yeah I mean there's we briefly mentioned I mean we've done a couple of little shows here and there. Stuff like, as a kid, I always liked that Little Mermaid show. They still do it at Hollywood Studios. Well, RIP to most theme park shows, as we all know.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Yes, our heart goes out to all these people that are laid off from these shows that are major productions. Some are closed permanently as of like 12 hours ago can i say this jace yeah oh yeah it's on the blog yeah okay so my friends that worked at disneyland they just were told that frozen is officially like closed and magical map is officially closed so they didn't get to have their final show like for me with um frog choir out here i mean I guess I'll say it because I don't think I'm doing it again um uh I didn't know that I had my last day like in retrospect I know but like I didn't know like the last show that I did before COVID which was like
Starting point is 00:25:38 March 12th maybe I had no idea that was my last ever show doing that show so I mean it's kind of nice because then you don't have like the sadness attached to it while you're doing it. But now it's a little bit like I didn't really get a formal last show. And it's a little sad. But like, yeah, it's kind of wild right now. Super sad. Yeah. Well, those are, I mean, yeah, it's there's tons of people that it's very sad.
Starting point is 00:25:59 It's very, yeah, it's like these show like frozen especially is like just major major production like it's like like they put so much time obviously and they've done the show now for a couple years and it's like it's just gone it's so much i mean and with magical map too there's so many costumes oh yeah so much like they're all such great and it's sad because i feel like too over the years as with beetlejulejuice, you know, that got taken out, not during COVID, but just to replace with a ride of a franchise they thought would be a better, you know, attraction for that area. And I think over the last few years, like live performance has taken a bit of a hit. And then now with COVID and everything, it's just demolished. So, you know, I hope that in the coming years when things start to pick back up, it will recover.
Starting point is 00:26:47 But it's definitely a really weird time right now for a lot of people in theme parks, not just entertainment. Fast and Furious Supercharged is the COVID of theme park attractions. Hell yeah, brother. Now that's a guess. I didn't do it. I only know the tram one, but if I had to guess. And Jason has not said kind things. No, no.
Starting point is 00:27:15 I'm waiting. I'm keeping all of my little thoughts. Because when we went to Florida to do the live show, I was the only one who went on. That was the last thing before I got on the, the like lift to the airport. I picked up my bag and I was like, God,
Starting point is 00:27:32 I can't believe my last ride was fast and furious. Supercharged. But the vision by now you can get on the plane and imagine like, what if Vin Diesel was hanging off of the bottom of this sucker? Oh man. What if Dom, what if Dom was sitting hanging off the bottom of this sucker oh man what if dom what if dom was sitting next to you i wish delta played turndown for what as i got onto got onto the flight in 2019 um so let's let's talk about this show which here. Just the primer for anybody who doesn't know it. I didn't know the version that you did, Jane, but I grew up with it in Universal Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:28:13 My synopsis would have been it was a show that is hosted by Beetlejuice, the film Beetlejuice, and where Universal classic monsters get involved in a big old rock and roll review. That's about it. That pretty much said. They're all variations of that, but as time went on, there was some adding of original IP
Starting point is 00:28:37 of which you were part. But this began around... Was it an opening day at Universal Florida? Did they add it in 92? I think it was. Correct me if I'm wrong, someone. part um but this this began like around was it an opening day at universal florida or they added in 92 i think it was correct me if i'm wrong someone but i'm pretty sure it wasn't it wasn't one or two years you told me what was the opening day was there was a short-lived uh an american tale five oh duh that was first at the at the stage in florida so the venue was there i think at opening but it wasn't that show.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Yeah, you're right. There was Fievel Goes West. Is that right? Yeah, it would have been. There was a Fievel Goes West thing, I think. I think it was the first Fievel. And then Fievel Goes West is what the play area is more. Oh, OK, OK, OK.
Starting point is 00:29:18 So that was a pretty quickly, like, it seemed like a pretty quickly thrown together, like, Fieall stage show. And it kind of doesn't make sense because it was just an amphitheater by in between New York streets and San Francisco streets. So, like, oh, I don't quite, I mean, oh, I guess the mice land in New, I guess that makes sense. Kind of.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Kind of. Kind of. Mini Ellis Island area. But what could make more sense for Universal Studios than deploying the classic monsters? And the show that I recall from 90s Universal Hollywood, it's the classic lineup. It's Frankenstein. It's Dracula. It's Bride frankenstein uh and then the the phantom of the
Starting point is 00:30:06 opera which was kind of the the biggest swing in the original one because he has sort of like a kind of a new wave vibe but with his uh with his not jet black his jet white hair how do you how do you describe white hair not jet jet wouldn't be part of it. I just love his look a lot. He's the most kooky. He looks like he's out of the Jetsons movie or something. I watched a video from 1992
Starting point is 00:30:36 and I think it was the one in Florida. He looks very much like Jordan Klepper to me. He's got the big hair. He's got the big hair. He's got the pink outfit. The a he's got the big hair and he's got like a pink outfit so the phantom would probably know a ton about politics if you got him going exactly he could explain to us everything that's going on in this crazy country 92 phantom yes 92 phantom would be an expert in 2020 politics exactly um i uh i'm trying to remember my feelings about this uh um i i remember liking the show
Starting point is 00:31:07 and it's the it's the degree of scary and rock music that is pushing the what i'm saying is when you're seven or eight it it does feel scary because they are monsters and it does feel like rock music because you're unwilling to push the boundaries of hard rock music when you're eight um so i viewed this as an extremely adult attraction when i was eight can i back you up with that because as an adult learning the show when we put on our costumes for the first time for like tech runs at night, I was scared of all the Frankenstein. Hey, all right. Because they have these shoes that are like, like just so big.
Starting point is 00:31:54 And oh my God, I was scared. Like I was a little scared of them because they were so tall. Yeah, very tall. So I get it, Scott. Hey, all right. As a kid, I will say like when if beetlejuice when it comes into the audience he does a lot of crowd work especially early in and on in the show
Starting point is 00:32:10 that always would freak me out even if it was just like we were seeing some sort of like dinner theater show and like the host would come out in the audience i would get scared of the host even if he had no monster it is so unnerving yeah i just I just, I was like, don't mention me. Don't talk to me. I think that's where my anxiety started as a person was audience participation in theme park when I was a child because I remember that happening a couple of times because I was so little, like they'd come over and I just would be like, I hate this. Like, get away from me.
Starting point is 00:32:38 And to this day, I don't like interactive theater. I'd rather either be in the audience or on the stage. Like in between makes me like sweat buckets. That's a good point. It's neither here nor there. I need to know going in. You're part of this and you're performing,
Starting point is 00:32:55 essentially, or nine times out of ten, I just want to sit there and observe. I'd agree. Also, the logic of this is a little confusing, because Beetlejuice comes out, does like eight minutes of crowd work, and then goes backstage
Starting point is 00:33:12 and he's like, you gotta say my name, you gotta say my name so I can come out, and it's like, wait a minute, you were just out here yucking it up, now you need to be summoned? Right. Yeah. Why is that? It's to send your disbelief, you know? Or is it to turn on
Starting point is 00:33:27 his rocking abilities? Like, you're just getting warm-up beetle juice, but he can't rock until you say his name thrice. Okay. Yeah, it's probably about... It has a lot to do
Starting point is 00:33:38 with rocking, probably. It's probably in the book. It's probably in the book from the movie. There's probably a chapter on the rules of rock for the recently deceased what a rockin' show
Starting point is 00:33:49 the um I watched this is in I think the defunct land about the show but it's also in the I love any time we can discuss the John Forsythe hosted Universal Souvenir video that is on YouTube
Starting point is 00:34:04 and is a delight John Forsythe of Universal Souvenir video that is on YouTube and is a delight. John Forsythe of Charlie's Angels fame who has this very stiff narration of each Universal attraction and his quotes about this one are tremendous. He calls it a rock and roll review
Starting point is 00:34:20 of Monster Mashers. They're dead. We're dead. We're grateful. He says so wistfully. He says like more lovingly than I've said. It's like sweeter
Starting point is 00:34:35 than anything I've said to this baby yet. It's so like just they're dead and grateful. That's awesome. Thank you. We salute you. I know I'm making a joke about a band name, but also, Beetlejuice, I salute you, sir.
Starting point is 00:34:53 That's also like it sounds like he's on a porch in a rocking chair, just kind of staring off into the distance with a little twinkle in his eye. Just having memories about things he's seen. It's like, yeah, he's dying, and the thing he remembers the most about being on this earth
Starting point is 00:35:10 was watching Frankenstein rock. Yeah. Really lovely. He does look, he looks old as hell in these DVD videos, which I remember, I would have to get like a gift shop. I would always want them,
Starting point is 00:35:26 but they're like, no, this is $40. We're strangely overprice. Yeah. Little do they know, just be strewn on YouTube for anybody to watch and make fun of. And it is funny that like,
Starting point is 00:35:36 I think I have the same thing. Just like, I'm not even willing to ask my mom, this isn't worth a favor. And then like what you and I were coveting so much, Jason was a video where an old man thanks monsters and the other thing is if you go to a travel agency at the time and ask for information they would either hand you that or just tell you to write away to this address and
Starting point is 00:36:00 disney will send you of you almost identical video every year. But not with Charlie. Not with relevant to us as children the voice of Charlie. Yeah. You wanted that specific old man. He's a really dynamic old man. You wanted an old
Starting point is 00:36:19 man who looked like the portrait of Dorian Gray who is not represented in this show. The painting that ages while the man stays the same. I'm sure we could jump all around and talk about various monsters who appeared in the thing. And as it started, it was kind of these initial, like, it's the classics. But Jane, that is not what you played in the show. You were a later addition, an original IP to this world.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Can you tell us what you were yes i have some props here which i know the audience can't see oh great i was able to like sneak off with some stuff so i have my mask oh a mask there's a clue there's my mask whoa it's studded and sparkles just stuck on the inside too, from the Florida sweat heat makeup melt. Right. Yeah, no. I love having this. And then I also have the collar that I had to wear.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Oh, a little neck brooch thing. Neat. I hated this thing because you were, like, belting and they were, like, putting this thing around your neck. So you were like, but no, it's putting this thing around your neck so you were like but um no it's good it's fun i got to keep well it's the smallest thing i could walk away with because like the top can i talk about my costume since we're kind of on that yeah yeah absolutely wait wait wait and say the name of the character i didn't say what i was oh i'm so sorry i'm so sorry um yeah so my character uh his name was fantasia the phantom of the opera's daughter yeah so it was cool um yeah she was cool it was fun because she's kind of more like uh like she
Starting point is 00:37:56 wore pants but the rest of the girls like wore skirts so i felt like she was more of this like tomboy rocker chick vibe and that was like way fun because that's more my vibe anyway. So like, it was just cool. And she has like her own DJ booth. And like, it was so wild. I don't know. I don't want to get ahead of myself because I don't know what we're going to talk about. Well, she's like the,
Starting point is 00:38:16 in it becoming a little less rock oriented. I think you lose the non-played live instruments on stage. You lose the fake guitar and it becomes more of a dance-oriented show. And you really, Fantasia is the leader of this, doing the mashups from the title. Fantasia has to pull hits from the 80s and combine them with the hits of today.
Starting point is 00:38:43 You know, that's true, yeah. There's a line where I say to Cleo, who comes out as the other character in the show that was a new IP, and it was, I got you, girl, I'll spin this. So yeah, she was up there spinning away those mashup tunes. Delightful.
Starting point is 00:39:01 And you get a narration, you get introduced, you get like a cue and a a giant contraption rotates you onto stage which that was pretty cool yeah it was like for the first version of the show it rotated and the phantoms like worgen was there and then for a while it was just a chair and the characters the characters hip and Hop would be leading on it two perplexing characters oh yeah this was in everything we're describing is version 4
Starting point is 00:39:31 but version 3 started the drift to Hip Hop with the characters Hip and Hop who seem to be they were front and center in Beetlejuice's performance of Hey Ya Jane I'll set you up for this. Will you talk about your connection
Starting point is 00:39:48 to another version of this show? Yes. And hip and hop? So I always kick myself for making the choice I made on this one rainy Orlando day. So they had auditions come through a lot for Universal Japan and whatnot, and they have them everywhere.
Starting point is 00:40:04 But Orlando, they would always come through Orlando for stuff like that. And I went to the open call for Universal Japan for Beetlejuice and they kept me at the time for Hip and Hop. And I was like, this is really cool. And I wasn't doing the show yet. I don't think in Orlando, I think this was before. And I kept making through rounds. I kept making through rounds. I kept making through rounds. And I kept making through rounds. I kept making through rounds. I kept making through rounds. And I was like, oh my God, I'm the only girl that they're keeping right now for hip and hop. Like this is crazy cool. But before the final dance callback, I had another callback at Orlando Repertory Theater, which was one of the like professional
Starting point is 00:40:39 theaters in Orlando for Fiona and Shrek the musical. And I was like, if I don't go to this, they're going to be really pissed that I didn't show up because like that's the musical and I was like if I don't go to this they're gonna be really pissed that I didn't show up because like that's rude so I was like do I leave this one where I'm like killing it I was like okay here's what I'll do I'll talk to them about it so then I was like hey man like I have another audition can we work this out they were like come back tomorrow for the dancer call and you can do that callback I ended up just kicking just really shooting myself in the foot because I was so caught up with the Beetlejuice audition that at the Shrek one I just flopped so hard and was like just I was not mentally there and then I went back
Starting point is 00:41:17 to the dance um call call back the next day and it was for like dancer dancers and I was there for like singer mover so I looked like shit and like couldn't keep up because it was for like hardcore dancers so I I didn't get either job and I just was like man I was so close to being hip and hop like but you know my life worked out very well and I'm happy but like at the same time I'm like man what if I had booked hip and hop man those cool costumes and wigs in hindsight would you rather been hip and hop or fiona oh hip and hop for sure okay yeah because i ended up seeing well i can't say i don't want to say anything okay all right sure sure sure but there was some secrets there was a possibility of a japan but being like, what is your job? I am hip and I live in Japan.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Yeah. Darling, we could have met so many years earlier when you were hip or hop and I was Austin Powers. Well, that was Singapore.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Oh, it was Singapore. Well, I guess, you know, I would have, I would have been over there and like,
Starting point is 00:42:19 I've got a long weekend off coming up and Japan still has Jaws. So, what is the quickest way to get Singapore to Japan? Does my discounts work? I think that would have for sure happened
Starting point is 00:42:29 had you taken my advice and applied to be Austin Powers in Singapore. Hopefully still possible one day. We'll see. If we started having to record this, the virus is over.'re doing this we're
Starting point is 00:42:46 still doing it via zoom because jason lives in singapore now he's doing it late at night we're doing it first thing in the morning he's still wearing his crushed velvet suit when he gets home hey didn't have time to change uh let's just get right into i'm ready to go he puts the swedish made penis enlarger pump on the counter as he gets home, like smashes it down. It's like, all right, let's record. Long day. We're talking about some other, we're talking about King Arthur's carousel. And he's like, you know, I just think this is one of the most shagadelic attractions.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Like it's, you know what he's saying anymore. Oh, God damn it. Hey, it's possible um the some facts that i wrote down about fantasia from her introduction uh beeljuice says that she's a real daddy's girl and she's a phantom who needs no opera um that's all fun and i now that's all good but i i can't believe. Let me just admit this, that I genuinely laughed out loud at Cleo's introduction during which Beetlejuice said, Sphinx better have my money.
Starting point is 00:43:53 I actually laughed at that. I forget if that was improv or not because the Beetlejai had improv room. They had room for that i feel like that was actually in the script though because it was timed with the way the pyro and the music would hit but yeah that's pretty dicey for them to put well it's not a bad word but it's if you if you fill it in mentally um wow thanks for having my money uh um yeah it's he's a little blue in the latin that video like he got like he got blue where i feel like his years went on because in the 92 version he's pretty he's a lot less aggressive he's more like kind of like i'm this
Starting point is 00:44:36 guy and then by 2006 he's like yeah i just took a huge shit like that's that's like he's there's a joke there too he's like oh don't i forget what he says like i just he's talking about corn and his shit creature the creature of the black lagoon i just made in the toilet i had to drop my creature off at the black lagoon and you know there you go that's a better joke one and then he's like talking about manscaping yeah he's talking about manscaping he's like i think he's talking to a wolfman at that point. Wow. Was he a podcaster from three years ago?
Starting point is 00:45:13 Hopefully. Those were ubiquitous. You bring up the off-color nature of the show. There are versions of this that I think were technically PG-13 because it is a little more adult. And this is the official description from touring plans, from Lynn Testa's touring plans.
Starting point is 00:45:34 In response to concerns from parents, Beetlejuice's bawdy banter has been toned down since the show's original incarnation. But he still does some off-color improv for the audio officially designated b for body wow it's like i like len len was probably just as offended as i would be by going with some sort of body show and he wanted to make sure that the people knew that beetle juice was going to be talking about taking a shit oh yeah i personally got told something that was too bawdy about my show if i can share that
Starting point is 00:46:09 i don't know if this is allowed i think jason knows where i'm going with this i don't okay no okay so the cost oh okay so i was gonna talk about the costume i guess i'll get back to that. So the costume for Fantasia was like a bustier that was hella padded. And then like, I mean, that's what I want to talk about first. Like the bustier was hella padded. So like the first day of rehearsal, we had fittings. And I remember them going, she needs a bigger size and more padding. And I was like, and felt bad about myself. But it's okay.
Starting point is 00:46:49 So basically, we also learned how to contour. I want to be appropriate to the good boys here. So I don't know what I'm allowed to say. However you'd like to describe. No, we're getting crazy. We just had the debut of the word panties on the show. We could do whatever now. Let's get it cracking.
Starting point is 00:47:11 So my boobies were looking crazy. And I guess a couple audience members were like, her boobs are a little, like, we're uncomfortable. And the stage manager was like hey um we uh could you maybe not contour them so much because from audience it's it's playing like really not appropriate and i was like okay but like also the padding was like four inches thick and like also i was wearing like a victoria's secret push-up bra like it was meant to be like that like so it was just kind of like yeah it was a very
Starting point is 00:47:46 parents like somebody parents like went and found a worker apparently or somebody did they put effort into that yeah and i wasn't the only girl who had that problem the full-time girl was well endowed and the costume made it look more crazy and so like i remember i felt so bad for her because people online were like oh look at that boob lady and it's like come on guys like that's that's i felt so bad because like what is she supposed to do about it and this is the same uh you know uh property that brought us Bill and Ted's hate crime adventure. Yeah, I mean, that's that's I mean, I am sure being in these shows, especially being a woman like you run into like every from every angle you try being a hogwart student wearing a skirt and having creepy old dads take pictures with you and people like touching you and meet and greets where you're like get off of me sir like like it has to like i can't only imagine like you're hearing like this is too extreme this
Starting point is 00:49:00 isn't good enough you're not good enough it's good then like people weirdos in the park like you're so cute there's like 10 battles you're probably fighting at once often i'm assuming that's my assumption yeah definitely and also just like in the entertainment community there's typically more women than men competing so like also at the same time they're very quick to be like you're replaceable you know what i mean like i guess everybody is in theme park but like you definitely do feel like if there's a younger girl or a girl who just did a show that like got a lot of notoriety she could take my job like so yeah it was it was i mean that's a very small part of this i don't want you to think i didn't enjoy my experience but yeah it definitely is a part of it but it's yeah i mean i it sounds like too what we've heard like people have sorry a lot of
Starting point is 00:49:49 different like jobs as well so like it feels like your stability ends up happening like you're like well i'm doing three shows at once just because that's sort of the nature of this and people get shuffled in and out and it feels not permanent from what we've understood. Yeah. Theme park work. I mean, a lot of entertainment work is not permanent. I think that can be, you know, a lot of people can relate to that. However, with theme park jobs, every year we would have to almost like re-audition kind
Starting point is 00:50:18 of thing. They were called like our contract auditions, I think. And each like February, you would have to go in do like a song and a monologue depending on what your role was just to kind of like keep in touch and freshen up and stuff and then at that time they'd also go like we want to cross train you here let's have you read for this or like we think maybe and you know whatever and after that the talks would be who's gonna have the four-day contract who's to have the four-day contract? Who's going to have the three-day contract? Who are going to be the top three under that?
Starting point is 00:50:48 And who's going to go in the pool? So every year you could change and like also someone could get a contract on it. So this actually relates back to my Beetlejuice audition. I was the second cast to learn the new show. So I wasn't the opening cast of the version that I did but I was in rehearsals as they were opening so they had this replacement audition because the girl who originally got cast as Fantasia for the next round of people learning it she booked a cruise I think cruise ship job so they had a last minute like oh shit we need to
Starting point is 00:51:26 fill this so I randomly got pulled in because I was internal and I just auditioned from my contract audition and um so it's like me and a handful of other girls that already worked in the park that I knew and um they had us just like head to head doing like choreo and like singing and harmonies and who looks right with this person and who sounds right with this person and um I booked it that way so if that girl hadn't um gotten the cruise contract I may not have never uh learned it and also the funny thing was um every time I would audition for that show I guess it was twice I was called for Cleo I was never called for fan so when they they gave me Fantasia I was like
Starting point is 00:52:05 cool but like I only ever sang for Cleo like I think because I'm short so um it was pretty wild when they but it's because the girl like a vacancy kind of opened up for Fantasia so um yeah it's pretty wild it seems like there's just
Starting point is 00:52:21 yeah like there's just like 50 different things that they throw, like you get jobs thrown at you at last second. I mean, this happens in the entertainment industry, but it seems like there's so many more considerations for specifically theme park entertainment work. Like there's just so many variables, so many options. Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:40 You've got to be prepared for anything. There's nepotism. Sure. There's, you know uh seniority for example the the um beetlejuice in the uh link that i think jason sent you that i was in um he had been a beetlejuice for decades so some of them they kept around for each version but some were not some people would get cut between versions and they were really hurt because it's like you know that's it could feel really personal but it's like maybe it's just like they changed the song that dracula sings and now it's not your register it doesn't
Starting point is 00:53:14 sound right in your voice or we're changing the look of bride and you know unfortunately like you don't fit it anymore you never know like you literally never know so it was always kind of scary and that's why i kind of put my you you know, like, I want to be at this stage, this stage, this stage, this stage, because you never know which one's going to go under. Or you never know how long you'll fit that type. Or, like, you know, it's crazy. It's interesting, too. Like, weren't you at one point, like, yeah, I worked at Universal Universal these days and then I'd be at SeaWorld these days or was it SeaWorld and Lego?
Starting point is 00:53:48 Like when you lived in Orlando, you did like the full rounds. Yes. So even I would do two venues in a day at the same park. I remember one day I did a couple of shows with Frog Choir and then hopped over to Beetlejuice because they needed coverage. So that was always like fun to kind of just like hop around.
Starting point is 00:54:04 But yeah, I um some seasonal work with sea world um please don't cancel me um it was uh it was third party entertainment so i didn't actually work for sea world i worked for a third party um company but they they did like um christmas and halloween time stuff for kids and families so um that was a really fun easy job I got to be like a pretty princess and like just stand there basically and get paid for a lot of it or like for Christmas I was a polar express elf which sounds like funny and lame but honestly it was so magical it was so magical um and then I did Legoland um I never worked at. I auditioned at Disney a lot and I got fit for some stuff
Starting point is 00:54:46 and it was close to getting some stuff. Oh, and Nick Hotel. I auditioned for Nick Hotel, booked a show and then the show fell under and then the hotel went under. So I almost worked at Nick Hotel. That's right.
Starting point is 00:54:58 What was the role? It was going to be like a pop style show and the audition song was It's be like a pop style show. And the audition song was, it's always a good time. Wow. Yeah. That's right. I know y'all love that one. Owl City.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Yeah, baby. Yeah. So it was going to be like a Disney Channel rock style show, but for Nick Hotel. And then I booked it. And then they said, JK, it's not happening. We don't have money. And then it was like, boom. Wow. But it all worked out because you did did while you didn't get to do good time you did get to uh both whip and nene oh i have it in my notes too scott uh i think i i asked you because
Starting point is 00:55:38 you you said like i knew the show got as the different versions go on, they add more and more like topical stuff. Like the one around 99, 2000, they had live in La Vida Loca in that one. And if you went to Orlando in 1999, 2000, you could not escape Ricky Martin's live in La Vida Loca. It was playing in all the parks.
Starting point is 00:56:00 It was playing everywhere. And when you said, when we said we were going to do this, I was like, well, what was the topical thing in your show? Did you guys do the Harlem shake? And he went,
Starting point is 00:56:09 no, we did the whip and the nay nay. We also did the Harlem shake. It changed every few months. Oh, okay. So we did, we did Harlem shake.
Starting point is 00:56:19 I think we did all about that base, which was like, okay, we did whip and nay nay. We we did oh there was one more i almost want to say gondam style but i don't remember if that was it holy grail but they would change like right some days i'd go in and if i happened to be there on the day where they're changing it was always kind of exciting because they'd be like hey guys we're gonna update the the possession song like when he takes over and we'd always be like what is it and they'd be like we're doing whip and nene we'd be like yeah and then we'd go out and rehearse it because it would be like a new timed thing
Starting point is 00:56:52 so there was one day i got to be there for a change and i felt like really cool wow i was really late i will be the first cast to whip and nene it's so dumb but that's how they make you feel like it's so competitive there because it's like that's the gig is like you work in deepark so when you get little things like that even though it means nothing you feel like well did you do that yet oh well i was there the first it's so catty it's so dumb huge pop from the crowd when frankenstein starts to whip and nene oh yeah it's very funny yeah it's's very funny. Yeah, it's good. It's pretty funny. It was the video,
Starting point is 00:57:27 it was your video, right, where it's a psych. They say psych because they're playing for the start of Thriller and then they go psych and then whip and nay nay starts. And it's a great misdirect.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Could you imagine them having the rights to that song with all the pyro money they put into that show plus rights to that song with all the pyro money they put into that show plus rights to that song they would go bankrupt i'm i'm confused we should really look into this like what the what the theme park music rights situation is because we've seen like charlie brown and not scary farm do a parody of Thriller called Spooky Night. But is that, do they have to pay? Or is it a parody so they don't have to pay? Parody's covered.
Starting point is 00:58:10 No, parody's covered. Is that why they were allowed to do it? Because they make it the very cutting parody Spooky Night? Because it's a spooky, spooky night. Also, like, is anyone actually tracking Knott's approval of things things it's a pretty big park I mean you'd think they would like have a lawyer oh yeah you got we got
Starting point is 00:58:30 to go 2023 we'll go great do you think Carlos Santana or Rob Thomas was in the audience and then Frankenstein starts playing smooth it's just like what the fuck i didn't clear this what the hell uh yes i think that's very likely yeah you just started that
Starting point is 00:58:53 famous solo up uh so yeah i am i am confused i guess they probably have to get the rights but is it because that thriller piece is so like short because they're playing the intro they didn't have to pay for it and there there might be one thing off in there. It might have a slightly different instrument added, so technically you could say it's not the same. I don't know. I actually don't know. Yeah, because those Star Wars, the hyperspace hooplas would have tons of new pop songs. I feel like... Oh, sorry. No, no no i was just gonna say i like in that like
Starting point is 00:59:27 that's a very visible show yeah i feel like because disney has its own um like i mean universal has its own like record label too but disney music i think encompasses a lot of different things because of how big it is as a corporation so i wonder if some of the stuff got in that way for disney um i'm not sure i have friends that did the hoopla though i just oh wow really did you ever think about trying to do the hoopla i think i was too young okay that was going on i am but a child uh No, I'm just kidding. I was born in the 90s, though. I will say that. That reflects
Starting point is 01:00:10 you. You were getting out easy. You were getting out easy so far. I have gotten out pretty easy. We still got some time. We still got time. I guess we didn't really talk about how we met. I don't know. How much do you want to share?
Starting point is 01:00:24 You met at her middle school. I was walking by a candy guess we didn't really talk about how we met i don't know how much do you want to share at middle school you met at her middle school well okay i was walking by a candy shop and there was this man no um well we we met on a dating app um but we had mutual friends and um we were we were walking the same way to our first date, like crossing a street the same way. And like, I kind of thought it was him, but it was like awkward. And I was just like, Jason.
Starting point is 01:00:52 And he like turned and he was like, hi. And I just was like, hi. But it, you know, obviously it went well. Sounds like a meet cute to me. It was like the best first date. It was cute. It was. And you had kind of alluded to working in the theme park sphere.
Starting point is 01:01:09 And I had kind of alluded to doing something related to theme parks. Being obsessed with the theme park sphere. Yeah. Spending too much time thinking about the theme park sphere. Did you bring up on the first day, like Jim Hill and Len Testa or season pass? Did you mention any of that? We just brought up childhood traumas.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Okay. Yeah, that's fine. That's a little more relatable. I would say, yeah. Save Jim and Len for date two. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:01:40 exactly. Right. Yeah. Is, uh, would you say, cause you obviously like you were living the theme park life but jason was no jason look the three of us are outsiders we we didn't i mean scott obviously worked universal but we're not like we weren't like completely immersed in this for years like not anymore i'm trying to get back in. I'm working every day. Well, you need to be more flexible.
Starting point is 01:02:07 You needed to be more flexible. You needed to be able to sub into a Beetlejuice show or a Spider-Man Rocks. That's true. I never put it on the table that I could host Fear Factor Live. Right, or the Animal Actors Show or something. Like, you get a call this morning, Scott, we need you at the Animal Actors Show. All right, I'll be there. And then, like, get a call to this morning like this morning scott we need you at the animal actor show all right i'll be there and then like everyone say hello to henry and then a falcon flies at my face and i go one time i got to go meet all those animals by the way and like go backstage and see them all and it was like the best day of my life because they have some that
Starting point is 01:02:40 they don't use in the show and they were so I mean, that sounds very fun to see the animals. It was fun. Do you think the host of the animal actors ever, maybe he was out playing Beetlejuice maybe the day before in the morning, and he came out, and he was like, I just took a shit. Oh, I'm sorry. I mean, the animals here are all trained, and they've been in the movies, and this is a hawk that can catch uh uh this can catch a piece of food in its talons that's so funny well i will say like for like frog choir
Starting point is 01:03:12 you have to have like the accent sorry to uh ruin everybody's illusion that i'm not actually english but um and i if i was doing that enough sometimes it would like slip in a little because you just get used to like for meet and, you have to stay in character and you would talk a lot. It's okay, sweetie. J.K. Rowling ruined everyone's illusion that she's not a fucking scumbag. Yeah, that's right. At least my job
Starting point is 01:03:35 with that ended before that shit show happened. Hey, that's true. You're not being photographed in the wardrobe of this tainted franchise. That's good news. The biggest moneymaker for Universal ever. My God, it sucks. Now its creator won't shut up.
Starting point is 01:03:54 It's like if Disney had an entire land themed to the Cosby show. Huxable Ania. Cosmic Rays? No, Cosby Rays. no cosby rays oh god if if people do five minutes of the psychos who create comic books if they do five minutes of research oh yeah yeah don't don't put that in anyone's head it was like maniacs and oh yeah um so oh what was i where were'm losing my train of thought. Been all around. I'm completely lost. You were asking about if somebody went from one show to the other.
Starting point is 01:04:29 We were talking about animal actors. Oh, yeah, yeah. Hyperspace. We were talking about Hoopla. Hoopla. Hyperspace Hoopla. Oh, that's where I was going with it. I was going to say, like, Jason's level of fandom, which is probably similar to our level
Starting point is 01:04:40 of fandom, like, when you heard, like, the information where he would say like oh i looked at this blog and the blog tells me about a new churro flavor was that your type of fandom as well or were you more like just like hey this is just my job buddy um so i have to say i also grew up being a theme park nerd so when we moved away from florida when i was 10 every year i would order the vacation dvd and watch it like religiously. So I was a little freak too, definitely. Just another nasty little freak like the rest of us. Just another freak.
Starting point is 01:05:18 This fandom's surprisingly easy to break into. But also at the time like it did also feel like oh that's just my job like when i got when i first my first show i learned at universal was frog choir as the like conductor in florida uh and i remember like when i booked it everyone was like oh my god are you so happy you read all the books and i still to this day haven't read all the books like I was like no like it's a job like I was I was excited it was really fucking cool but like I it wasn't really my thing it's sure a cool job so so you weren't like put I guess yeah you were just like oh yeah I'm I'm I also have an affection for these old VHS free VHS tapes and like let's watch it clicked pretty fast about
Starting point is 01:06:06 stuff like that yeah which was nice because i had never so i remember one of our like first times hanging out too i was like do you want to watch like this theme park video of like history of this thing and i was like i've never watched these with anyone but myself and i think jason was like yeah i don't think i have either and i was like this is nice like it was cute like like oh we're both kind of nerds and like my friends were i told my friends about that they're like you guys are fucking nerds i was like i know i love it hey that's great uh uh lindsey i think and i think she would say that like she was kind of like a lobster in a pot of water with the theme park stuff because when we started dating when we started dating i we both
Starting point is 01:06:45 really loved disneyland it would go a lot and then i really started turning up the heat on like blogs and wdw magic forums and uh podcasts and hey listen to this thing that uh that uh that they said on the dizz like that would be so all of a sudden years in in, she was like, okay, I don't need every rumor that you've read on the message board. Dial it to 60% or so. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We definitely have taken turns. If we were hanging out, one of us would be like, oh, did you see this thing? And then the other, I feel like we're 50-50.
Starting point is 01:07:21 I'm like, no, not now. No theme park right now, please. That's for sure yeah if i if i was having like any kind of issue or drama with like the more work side of my work i would be like i just can't think about theme parks can we do anything else like yeah um okay let's go let's go back to beetlejuice yeah because i have a question taking us so off track no no this is what happens but i but we can't let this pass without me asking a question about from the uh video that uh your your last performance uh and maybe you don't have the answer beetlejuice uh makes you know there's there's topical jokes throughout he does uh one of our favorite thing like the aladdin genie but there's one that's baffling to me, which is at some point he looks at someone in the audience and he says,
Starting point is 01:08:08 Hey, Lamar Odom, time to get up. I caught that too. Yeah. I mean, I think I know what that joke is. What is it? I think so as well. He was in like a drug-induced coma after spending time at a brothel. Am I wrong?
Starting point is 01:08:24 Oh. Should I wrong? Should I miss that? Uh-oh. Yeah. Like, that seems to be what that joke is. Hospital. That sounds right. Oh. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Oh, geez. That's pretty dark, but it sounds right, unfortunately. Yeah. Look, I know what, he was with Khloe Kardashian at the time. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. And it was a whole thing.
Starting point is 01:08:45 It was a whole, or no, no, I think he had just, he was splitting, they were on and off again. And then he, yeah, he was in the hospital with a coma, which that is a, that's a pretty crazy joke to make at a theme park. I feel like because it is associated with Kardashians, it's like, guys, Kardashians is safe space. Like everybody fucking hates them.
Starting point is 01:09:01 Just dish on them all day. Like I feel like anything kardashian related is always like haha they're gonna fucking love that it's like okay yeah i yeah in the in the previous version that ran in the early till 2000s to 2014 uh there is like rapid fire paris hilton jokes but then in a version i watched he makes a very quick reference to the mayor of Toronto, which I believe is a reference to the now deceased Rob Ford, the former maniac mayor of Toronto. Wow.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Yes. I mean, I will say, though, that joke seems crazier to me. I don't know what the time frame. Maybe he was out of the coma at this point. But I can't imagine the genie making a joke about that during the Aladdin show. Like, oh, you're taking a nap, you Lamar Odom?
Starting point is 01:09:50 Get grittier. That made me think of something to bring to the table, which is, yeah, there's Paris Hilton stuff. I saw a really old one that is, you know, we're going to have some monsters here. You know, call them the jerry springer show rejects um so that kind of thing and i that's a good slot right is calling somebody a monster when i think there's there's one with kim and kanye at some point in time and i was like if this thing was still going in 2020 is there a safe uh celebrity to put in that slot that where everyone would
Starting point is 01:10:28 laugh and where it's not problematic in some way yes any of the 20 executive branch members who got COVID from their own hubris well that's what we think but well that's yeah but that doesn't play in Florida they're not
Starting point is 01:10:44 gonna do that all right I yeah they're gonna play in florida they're not gonna do that all right i mean i agree they're open to be mocked but uh um yeah i don't think they're even doing like a trump hair joke i think i think in i think theme park world is so skittish that they would not even make fun of his orange complexion well i mean in the version um that i was in he does make a mary-kate and ashley joke oh because he has the little shrunken head thingies and there's like very bony and skinny and i think that's the joke and i think it's still kind of mean but uh also kind of like i think they've been out of the spotlight enough but it's not really 2020 i'm trying to think i don't know if there is like well like i mean if you're a question i don't think relevant celebrity probably but like up until you know whenever the aladdin show went
Starting point is 01:11:28 away which is a couple years already genie up until the very end was making a dr phil joke and so and i feel like i feel like yeah i feel like that type of thing yeah it's a couple years past its prime there's been consistent dr phil's just on the air you know who he is he doesn't have any controversy but you know he sounds like this so you can say like it has to be that safe i feel like carrot top is like a good but that's not he's not really distinct but i feel like carrot it's not good not a bad it's gotta be yeah i know what you mean it's got to be kind of culturally like everyone needs to know it. We all agree we hate the Pauls.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Everyone hates Logan and Jake Paul, but I don't think a theme park audience would necessarily know who they were. Right. It would be like, I think also the reference probably, especially right now, would probably have to be like, hey, Taylor Swift, I knew you were trouble when you walked in. Yes. That's funny. Like that would have to be the type of thing, I think were trouble when you walked in yes that's funny like that would have to be the type of thing i think where it's just like that's just a reference sure it's not insulting taylor swift maybe slightly the idea that she is overexposed
Starting point is 01:12:36 maybe like people are tired of taylor swift maybe that is a fair theme park joke to make maybe i'm still not super confident right i think that's tough yeah i'm not sure it's a good question uh it was to show you just go way back and like do 80s references like i pity the fool like just just stupid shit that's like i think you i gotta watch it i'm gonna get fired like roseanne barr i could see that flying to be honest with you i can see that being a thing that actually sounds about right it's a few years old everyone knew she got fired
Starting point is 01:13:09 and nobody cares anymore because our world's on fire in multiple ways you gotta have a little distance you gotta have a little distance right now I think it does sound like we're like railing against this new theme park cancel culture we want the jokes back.
Starting point is 01:13:26 Everybody should be on the table. We want to be able to say whatever we want. Beetlejuice should have freedom of speech. He should be allowed to eviscerate the pop culture celebrities. They would sometimes try jokes out. If we had one of our directors watching, they they'd be like maybe not that one like yeah another cute thing to get us back into the show like a little bit more the two people that were like the head of our training were two of the original brides in the first show in Orlando
Starting point is 01:13:59 and the original bride in Orlando and Frankenstein are still married to this day. Wow, true love. They met through that. And then, well, here, that sets me up. The collision of this show and pop culture. I got to show you guys these photos because there's a big celebrity presence in the history of this show.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Why, right there in the middle, we got Wayne Brady as Dracula, who I imagine came up, we're doing this out of order, but I'm sure came up in the Ghostbusters episode. And then, the probably most famously,
Starting point is 01:14:39 one Joey Fatone, who was a very regular performer. I think spent some time as wolfie the wolf man but uh i logged some time as dracula as well i do have a story about joey fatone oh great yes um so the closing party that we had was like after the final performance which was like after hours kind of just for the casting crew and some other people performance, which was like after hours, kind of just for the cast and crew and some other people. And this again was like a week before I was about to leave. So it was just kind of like this final goodbye party.
Starting point is 01:15:15 And a lot of the original cast or people who had done the roles previously were there. And Joey Fatone and what's the other one that lives in Orlando? What are the, not, not Lance or JC, but Chris Kirkpatrick. I think it was Chris Kirkpatirkpatrick they were there um well at least at the after party but joey fatone was there and i remember um yeah he's just like he lives in orlando like he he just lives in orlando like
Starting point is 01:15:36 it's very chill uh i don't know if i can uh but uh no i'm just saying like they're very normal chill like orlando vibes so he was just like they're very normal, chill, like Orlando vibes. So he was just like chilling. I remember talking to him being like, hey, man, what's going on? And just being like, oh, I'm moving to L.A. next week. And he's like, I just left L.A. And I was like, that's cool. And then we went to the after after party at like a bar.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Yeah. And Chris Kirkpatrick shows up and we're all like doing shots and shit. And I'm like, I'm drinking with two people from NSYNC. Like, what the fuck is going on right now? Like, so yeah, they were cool. And then,
Starting point is 01:16:06 um, Wayne Brady, um, he's kind of still like around in that way. Like he still talks to a lot of theme park people that he knows, um, are like mutual with the people I know. And,
Starting point is 01:16:19 um, I remember in the training group that I did, um, we didn't really have a lot of people of color in the show. So it was always very exciting when we did. And I remember in my training group, we did have a person of color playing Dracula and he posted about it. And Wayne Brady was like, hell yeah, keep it going, man. Like he was very supportive and like, am I going to get canceled for saying that I was trying to make it nice?
Starting point is 01:16:42 Oh, no, no. That's nice. Okay. It seems like Wayne Brady was trying to be supportive. Yeah. Yeah. It seemed like he was still invested in the community. Yeah, he's really cool. Now, you might
Starting point is 01:16:56 get in trouble because Chris Kirkpatrick has been lying low for a couple decades now because he's still terrified Eminem will kick his ass. Now, that's a good his ass. Now that's a good safe reference now. It's 20 years old. Yeah. Unfortunately,
Starting point is 01:17:16 much of culture is now both Stan in the generic term and Stan the maniacal fan who may kill you you why have we embraced this term why do people want to be like stan i don't understand this the term of endearment now i think because like someone would be like oh my god you're like so cool i totally stand and it's like are you are you 17 probably my thing yeah my thing with stan is that like it feel like it came way late
Starting point is 01:17:46 compared to the song oh that's the whole thing is like it's a throwback uh kind of thing like like kids or not kids but like teenagers discovering what that is maybe i think like maybe adults who actually knew the song started it but then kids were like what does that mean they're like oh it's like a throwback i'm cool now like i didn't know that song uh jane do you think j like do you know more youthful slang than jason or is he is he impressed you okay yeah okay so honestly now that i'm thinking about it are you actually giving him the youthful slang he often uses and he's sort of passing it off as if he's young and hip yeah there it is i'm gonna go ahead and say I have been the mastermind of this puppetry. Well, now, okay.
Starting point is 01:18:28 The Palpatine to his Snoke. You know it sincerely, but honey, I made you a promise. I will, like I said many times, I'm never going to learn who Dua Lipa is. I just will not. It's just never going to happen. I'll be like, oh my God god did you see that like blah blah like i'll go off on stuff and he's like yes something i definitely know and da baby's new remix yeah meanwhile he writes down da baby and he knows he's gonna put it in
Starting point is 01:19:00 his pocket for the next episode to make our listeners think that he's just on the cutting edge of culture. Why, just this morning we were talking about Blackpink's new album called The Album and how he wanted to buy one of the sweatshirts that's oversized and just says ice cream. Which I support. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:19 Yes, there's a big hit single with Selena Gomez of Blackpink that says ice cream. It's a good song. and they sing about ice cream kids still like ice cream I guess we are cool oh yeah let me tell you about ice cream kids definitely not a metaphor for
Starting point is 01:19:36 something much dirtier but yeah it's just about the sweet treat they don't do that stuff in Korea they got so many minders on the K-pop stuff like they filter all that stuff out good with the cream if you know what I mean
Starting point is 01:19:52 ice cream ice cream ice cream is one of them it just sounds like ingredients list to me sounds like Ben and Jerry's run take it at face value. This will really prove how at the opposite end of this spectrum
Starting point is 01:20:09 I am, and in fact, I pine for pop culture that is from before I was alive, because I really lit up... Here, let me just share the screen and throw this on. I was the most excited that this song appeared in an iteration
Starting point is 01:20:26 of the show. This is from 1999. Alright! Let's party! Rockin' with Beetlejuice Rockin' with Beetlejuice tonight Rockin' with Beetlejuice Rockin' with Beetlejuice
Starting point is 01:20:42 tonight Can even everyone on this Zoom say what that song is? I can't say the name. I know it, but I don't know the name of it. Not even... This is a crossover of Styx into Theme Park World. That is Rockin' the Paradise made into Rockin' with Beetlejuice. And what could be more rockin' than that?
Starting point is 01:21:08 With just that, rockin' with Beetlejuice. It reminded me so much of the Simpsons halftime show where they do the Lou Reed walk on the wild side. Oh, yeah, walk on the wild side. I mean, good news for me. I mean, Styx, if you know, I don't know if there's a lot of crossover of our fans and Styx fans,
Starting point is 01:21:29 but Styx is about as like, Styx rocks about as hard as a band comprised of Frankenstein and Dracula. They sort of are Beetlejuice's Graveyard Review. So this makes a lot of sense to me. I did in high school, our halftime show at the football games was all Sty stick songs.
Starting point is 01:21:48 So like, wait, what was it? We did Mr. Roboto. We did, oh, shoot. We did the big hits. Help me out here. Lady and Babe and Too Much Time on My Hands. Too Much Time on My Hands. We did...
Starting point is 01:22:05 You wouldn't have done Heavy Metal Poisoning or any other deep killing tricks. We did Too Much... We said Come Sail Away, Too Much Time on My Hands, Mr. Roboto. What kind of band is this? A marching band.
Starting point is 01:22:18 It's a marching band. You did it? It was an entire marching band stick set? Yes, we had a new band leader come in my senior year and he threw everything up in the air as far as like before that it was all john phillips suza and then he was like this like slightly younger in his early 50s man who just decided to switch the whole thing up and it was like we're playing sticks at halftime and then when we went to disney
Starting point is 01:22:43 world that year we played paul simons late in the evening as we walked down main street not john phillips souza or some sort of march switching out of john phillips souza is like the you know updating it to a baby reference today yes exactly equivalent wow and we were all i'd i have never really gotten into sticks i'm sure now maybe if i started to do a deep dive i'll appreciate it more but at the time we were all just so confused it's just why are we doing this it's the there's no question it's the best behind the music to me learning about the tour where they acted and made a short film and played robots I am in the best I would like I will just find that behind the music
Starting point is 01:23:27 I will do that classic rock strewn throughout it too because then Dracula performs a medley of just a regular cover of hot blooded but dovetailed with a I guess
Starting point is 01:23:43 a parody addicted to blood. Might as well face them addicted to blood. Yeah, and sometimes there's parodies and sometimes there's not. Yeah, even within that that's like a parody followed by not a parody. Back to back. Right, so
Starting point is 01:23:59 it's interesting because Beale just comes out at the start of the show and he's being very, very, very bawdy, but then they go into a very clean parody of Prince's Let's Go Crazy. But it is a parody. I wrote down a line. They don't make it Let's Go Shitting. Right. Let's go shitting.
Starting point is 01:24:19 Let's go get some corn. Let's drop corn. I see. Oh, I was going to people. I was going to make a body joke. Looking for the purple banana, and I'll put it in my butt. And that's the full body parody. Let's go crazy.
Starting point is 01:24:34 Yeah. The original one has the most like hooray for everything kind of like variety show vibes. But I was surprised how much like current-ish music for the time uh was in it for the early 90s let's go crazy i was thinking let's go crazy though was going to be a holdover from there because it felt like such a clean it was the line is like night is young gotta take a bite so hot i feel a jolt gotta party tonight which feels very like hooray for everything clean version yeah she's so hot do you know all the words from the parody jane i believe so i can also do cleo's rap but i won't because uh we we well i can you could request it well, your big song was Sweet Dreams.
Starting point is 01:25:26 Yes. Sweet Dreams Are Made of This, which later in the show, mashups very popular in the 2010s was mashed up with Smooth Criminal, which I think it's really cool. They got an Alien Ant Farm song in there. And then there was also Ballroom Blitz.
Starting point is 01:25:43 So many to choose from. You'd think they would have gone with the movies. The Alien Ampharm song about movies. But they went with Smooth Criminal. Not as big of a hit. Movies. No, not as big of a hit. I kind of like movies, though. I'll be honest.
Starting point is 01:26:01 I do, too. I don't think I know movies by Alien Ampharm. Scott, you don't know the Alien Ampharm song movies? You don't know movies? They get dressed up like movies, though. I'll be honest. I do, too. I don't think I know movies by Alien. Scott, you don't know the Alien Air Force? You don't know movies? They get dressed up like Ghostbusters. Yeah, there's a video where they're dressed up. Yeesh. I don't know it.
Starting point is 01:26:14 I'm not going to go too hard because I haven't heard in a couple years, and it's probably not as good as my memory says it is. Might not hold up, maybe. Might not hold up. Can I go back to 2006 if we're going to talk about raps? Yes, yes. I think from what I found, my favorite rap performance in any of the... They really, they rung in 2006 the right way with this little number. What is the, is it a parody?
Starting point is 01:26:58 Is it a parody or is it just a song? I think it's just the original lyrics, of course. Yeah, well, really the one we know is a parody, in a way. It's a clean parody. What song? I couldn't. It was a little too. Let's get it started.
Starting point is 01:27:12 Oh, yeah. Let's get it started in here. We watched this version together, and I was like, oh, no. The audio messed up. They're playing the album cut. Oh, no. They put the wrong CD in. They're live singing, Jason.da they're live singing jason
Starting point is 01:27:25 and they're live singing they seem excited oh no i think the black eyed peas are like the sticks of rap i think that that's about okay they are as legitimate to rap as sticks was to rock will i am looks like he drives beetlejujuice's car. How about that? He's got that big purple car. That is like Beetlejuice. Oh, that car. Look up the car if you don't know the car. Oh, that reminds me of another question I have. Do we think that in 2013 that Beetlejuice made a topical joke that was like,
Starting point is 01:28:04 Hey, anybody see the VMAs? Robin Thicke's been stealing my wardrobe. For sure. For sure they made that joke. Has to. I feel like they almost made that joke when I freaking did it. That might have still been relevant.
Starting point is 01:28:19 That brought Beetlejuice back into the picture. Just because it's so specific. People remember it oh for sure they made wow that's nice to hear i could have written for it had to it's nice to know i could have cut it as a writer for the mashup yeah we've been begging to be writers on one of these things and no one has taken us up on it no theme park has contacted us and said, write a show like this for us. We're ready to do it. I'm surprised. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:48 I'm shell shocked. I know for a fact there was some powerhouse talent involved in Jane's version and the mashup version. Because one of the companies involved in making it, why they knew something about rock and roll, right? They're called Renaissance Entertainment. And their co-owner and CEO is a man named John Binkowski, the former head of Hard Rock Park, baby. Whoa. The rockinest company in all of theme park entertainment. All rockin' roads lead to one man.
Starting point is 01:29:18 Lead to one man, the man himself. Binkowski, come on. Hook us up, Binkowski. We gotta talk to this guy. We really gotta talk to this guy. We gottaowski, come on. Hook us up, Binkowski. We've got to talk to this guy. We've really got to talk to this guy. We've got to talk to this guy. It's funny with turning it into Fast and Furious that
Starting point is 01:29:31 that's a little... I think that is Universal's attempt at being current pop culture relevant, whether or not it's successful. It's like they took this spot. It's like this area in the park is meant to be the, the spot for the kids.
Starting point is 01:29:48 And by that, I mean the spot where they, you know, show what kids were talking about seven years prior. So, but at least it, you know, that is maintained kind of by turning it into,
Starting point is 01:29:59 to fast and furious. Right. That's true. But, you know, it sounds like it's just, again, I haven't been on the Orlando one either. It sounds like it's not quite the same. Five minutes into watching these Beetlejuice things, I'm like, oh, this is more fun than Supercharged.
Starting point is 01:30:17 I mean, it is. It's missing, I feel like that park is missing a certain energy of this kind of like universal. Like it's it's yeah, it's very loud. It's very pop culture. It's just a little body like they've kind of stripped a lot of of that out. Not even before COVID times. I mean, yeah, I if the one in the early 90s, I felt like it had such an eighties aesthetic to it.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Um, that I guess, I guess I'm now I'm viewing it through the lens of like, oh, that's, that's cool the way they were making it look back then. But it's just because that's what, like that was actually current.
Starting point is 01:30:56 I'm thinking it was nostalgic back then, but it's like, uh, it feels like something like fun and very themed. It's just feels more specific, I guess is what I'm saying. Then like a screen ride, It feels like something fun and very themed. It just feels more specific, I guess, is what I'm saying, than a screen ride. It feels more unique and original, even though it's a framework of a theme park show, but it feels like, oh, this would be a fun little thing that's different than everything else. And as I say that, of course, they were playing Great Balls of Fire in 1992.
Starting point is 01:31:24 A 30-year-old, plus-year-old Jerry Lee Lewis song. Rock and roll all night and party every day. Yeah. I'll say this for comedy. One of the jokes that I really appreciated was there was a moment in one of the versions where Frankenstein, they shoot off a bunch of pyro and Frankenstein freaks out at the fire.
Starting point is 01:31:47 That's a solid joke. That's a good joke, yeah. They kind of played Frankenstein as a little dumb but lovable, was kind of his thing, at least in our version. In our version, too, it was supposed to be like in the previous versions, it was like he and the bride kind of had this on and off again or whatever. But in our version, it's like they be like in the previous versions it was like he and the bride kind of had this like on again off again or like whatever but in our version it's like they're
Starting point is 01:32:08 settled down they're a couple it's very cute like that was supposed to be their like arc I guess if there is one but like um so that was kind of cute they made him just like dumb lovable and like established that they were together and the reason that worked is because they made dracula like fantasia's like love interest or vice versa you know because in the previous shows dracula would kind of be like i wish that i had frankie's girl you know like all that stuff so then i can't believe i just said that joke too yeah pretty good uh uh so like in our version uh right before fantasia's entrance beetlejuice is like oh you know still haven't found anybody track and he goes i've tried in vain but i couldn't find
Starting point is 01:32:51 my type and he like gets the bride and then um the bride's like it's time for some new blood and so then i come out and then supposed to be like dracula's like oh who's she and then he gets distracted by her and then cleo and wolfman are kind of a couple so it was kind of like couples. This whole thing is about trying to get monsters to hook up. Hell yeah. This is a big rock and roll monster key party. Keys in the bowl gang.
Starting point is 01:33:15 Keys, your giant, your giant castle, footlong castle keys. Igor's keys. The keys. Yeah. The drag,
Starting point is 01:33:23 keys to the Dragula. Do you know, do you know any other any info about fantasia's backstory or like what i guess i guess the question i have is what happened to her dad um i don't know um i mean i don't really know i think it was kind of up for interpretation but like there there are some cute moments where like if you're paying attention enough there's little nods to him um like when they do the girls just want to have fun bit um for like the girl characters Fantasia specifically sings that oh daddy dear you know you're still number one and the choreography was like you as much as many times as you can draw attention to your mask because that's your kind of go-to thing for your character um so like cleo's was like your go-to thing is mummy hands and like egyptian hands and then fantasia's go-to is like the rock hand and like the put your hand over your
Starting point is 01:34:16 mask thing so it was oh daddy dear you know you're and then you do the little masking still number one so like there's a little nods if you're paying attention, but you know, most people kind of miss that. Is the number one, I read it as pointing to the sky. Like maybe he died. I kind of take it that way too.
Starting point is 01:34:35 I have a different reading of it. I think he's up in the rafters, enjoying his daughter performing. Maybe that's it. Much more wholesome. Right. He's, that's what he loves. He loves being in the rafters for God's sake. That's his whole performing. Maybe that's it. Much more wholesome. Right. That's what he loves.
Starting point is 01:34:45 He loves being in the rafters, for God's sake. That's his whole thing. In the rafters, in the basement. Right. He loves to lurk about. So he's not going to be in the audience with the tourists. He's going to be up watching from the sky. Gives her notes after every show.
Starting point is 01:34:59 You were flat here and you were sharp here. Take that contouring down. He is kind of a tire. Oh, no. It's a gy no, it's a gypsy. It's a gypsy. Gypsy Rose Lee. She's like, Dracula save me. Take me away. I have to lie and say daddy's number
Starting point is 01:35:13 one. It's not true. Oh daddy, do you know he's still number one? Jane, do you remember any times the show went a little awry funny stories with like other cast or like anything stick out like that yeah for sure i mean even in watching the the same video i keep referring to there's some stuff where i was like
Starting point is 01:35:39 that was definitely something we all tried to like make happen that wasn't really allowed but we were closing like if you notice in ballroom blitz i crawl under frankenstein's legs which was just us fucking around being like dude i'm gonna crawl under your legs when you cross from here to here be like okay man like stuff like that or in that show too we were like guys let's add all the riffs that we can and so you'll notice that some stuff there's like added riffs that we know because we've heard the show a million times and be like i tried to add a riff here and you'll notice that some stuff, there's like added riffs that we know because we've heard the show a million times. And like I tried to add a riff here and you'll see people kind of laugh and be like, nice. And then also in that show, for some reason, one of the dancers, one of the male dancers in that show,
Starting point is 01:36:16 we me and him had this like inside joke about like who could get the last like two claps in before we had to move to the next thing. So whenever we were like dancing together in like What I Like About You, you can see us like both doing this because it was something that no one would really catch. But I think we were all just trying to have a good time. So we were all really sad that it was closing and people were moving. And so it's like stupid shit like that. We had really fun backstage like happenings, like just, you know, just funny shit we because there were a lot of like costumes from the old shows there'd be random wigs and shit everywhere too so people would get have
Starting point is 01:36:51 fun with that and we'd all trade wigs like I would because we had like wig caps and on and stuff and we would take a lot of stuff off because it's so hot so one time I'd be like oh my god can I try on your wig I want to see what I'd look like at this or like oh my god what if we did it like this like we would just have fun like we it was just such a silly silly fun time and like it really is like a family like we all still talk and we're all in like like a facebook group of like monster family and like if someone's out here that's which sounds funny i guess no it is nice and so like if someone's out here i'll be like oh my god i live here now like do you want to hang out like there's a guy who did sound for us who also does or did i guess tour stuff so he did the green day tour and he was doing something else and anytime
Starting point is 01:37:33 he was out here rehearsing in burbank i'd be like hey man let's hang out and like we would hang out and so it's just like not even a question so it is like this really like runs in the blood especially with like the original brides really being a big part of each iteration. Um, it was kind of like a nice family to get, you know, kind of invited into.
Starting point is 01:37:51 And another funny thing backstage too, which I have a picture of, and I'm sure Jason can send you guys. We had like a full size Beetlejuice man, like figure statue, but like it, it was not, it had like real clothes on. It wasn't like hard. It was like an actual like figure, it it was not it had like real clothes on it wasn't like hard
Starting point is 01:38:06 it was like an actual like figure but it was man-sized and it would scare the crap out of me all the time but we had one and we would always dress him up funny and like for mardi gras put beads on him and at christmas we made it look like he was decorating the tree so like that's pretty funny and like um the chair that was on the turntable before the red chair, our stage manager had that as her chair in her office. So if you'd go into the office, she was like sitting in the chair. Like it was just,
Starting point is 01:38:33 everyone loved it. And like, it was just a fun time. And I think that's really why it's so sad. It's gone. Cause my first thought was like, they're going to destroy that break room where we had all that fun. Like that was really what my first thought was like,
Starting point is 01:38:44 wow, that sucks. Like was really what my first thought was. Wow, that sucks. We had so much fun occupying time between shows and just being stupid. A lot of us did our own makeup. Frankenstein, Beetlejuice, and Wolfman had airbrushing and stuff. But the girls did a lot of their own makeup. So we would just be at the makeup mirrors just having fun. Someday sucked, but so does every job. But that's what i take away from it for sure it's just like
Starting point is 01:39:08 it was so fun like sometimes it didn't sound good sometimes it didn't look good and i'll be the first to tell you that it's hard as hell to do all that cardio and belt and not be flat flat as hell all the time in that show but did i have fun yes like was it like living my best life yes like now the graveyard review was the peak of not the peak but like i a just a glory day glory days in your life having monster slumber parties i felt like a rock star i mean i had like the britney spears mic we all called them the britney spears mic these old ass like big black like mics and yeah it was just a good time we fucked around all the time on stage like we just yeah it was fun it sounds great i look i in hindsight wish i went right to orlando at 18 did a bunch of shows partied at pleasure island every night and that like i've that would have
Starting point is 01:40:04 seems like very fun and it's it's nice And that would have seemed like very fun. And it's nice hearing that it seems like it was fun for the most part. Yeah. It really was fun. Sorry. Do you hear that dinging noise? No, no, no. Jason, do you hear that dinging noise?
Starting point is 01:40:18 It just stopped. Okay. We can maybe cut that. No, I think it's fine. It sounded like an alarm, and was like oh my god what is that the cookies cookies are done jason has a 90 minute cookie recipe uh no i didn't mean for that to come off like that was very distracting no it really was um we you know after shows we'd be like you guys want to go to food and wine tonight and be like hell yeah we'll meet you there like oh i was
Starting point is 01:40:42 working over at this job today i just did my shows there but you're gonna like you know it really was this cool like experience to I'm very lucky to have had like just living in Orlando as an adult working in that industry like I'm very glad that I'm where I am now and I'm no longer there but at the same time there's very fond memories and very learned a lot and like who gets to just be, do you guys want to go to food and wine tonight for fun? It's like, yeah, OK. Like that was like date night. That was like going out night. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:41:11 That's like one of my favorite memories. Like I would go after Beetlejuice and I'd still have some of the crazy makeup on. And we would just go drink around the world. Like, oh, so fun. Should Mike, did Mike mess up? Should Mike have done the alternate path? Yes, I did. I absolutely messed up. i'm not saying i
Starting point is 01:41:27 would have moved out here i'm just saying though instead of going to community college and stayed in my hometown i should have gone to orlando and had fun i totally messed up mike whenever whenever you talk like that i always say the same thing you gotta get back in improv classes you gotta get get some refreshers jason Jason, shut the fuck up, Jason. So upset when you make those jokes. We wasted our whole lives doing improv. I don't need to go back. What'd you spend years doing classes on?
Starting point is 01:41:55 You should have come into my graveyard review instead. You should have been in a real show. I should have been playing Beetlejuice. That's what I should have been doing your height would work to your advantage for a lot of stuff like you would book stuff especially horror nights i don't know if that would interest you at all but your height you would get booked immediately for shit like you would be frankenstein everywhere like as long as i can play the goblin beetlejuice character in any of these like justjuice character In any of these
Starting point is 01:42:26 Just do that voice for any of these characters I'm absolutely in You are going to have to do jokes That are related to fecal matter Look if I will go to church I will pray on it Go to the holy land experience
Starting point is 01:42:43 Light a candle I used to live right by the holy experience oh boy did you hear the baptisms i would have to turn down that street no but i would have to turn down that street and pass all of the big like animals just to get to my apartment wow i love like uh you know i mean universal Orlando is like, you go a couple blocks and you hit a public supermarket. But I feel like you told me, it's like, yeah, you know what's next to Holy Land experience? A Target. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:14 Like this. It's right by Mall of Millennia. You cross over I-4 and like, it's Holy Land. And then Target, Krispy Kreme, Panda Express, like the whole mall. So just like you know like go get some diapers in the morning then get uh blessed into a bathing pool by jesus himself then go pick up some orange chicken just get it all done the same little catch a crucifixion on the hour every hour like just hit it up quick quick crucifixion um closing thoughts about this show uh i mean i'm i'm now like i wish it was still there i wish it was still there in florida i or in hollywood rather it's you know one thing that's strange
Starting point is 01:44:00 about it is that it went away and then they moved the special effects stage show which we talked about with carl tart up to uh like that happens in this castle theater and clearly the castle theater is a place where beetlejuice should be performing not where you should be learning wow chroma key works uh it's right there it's waiting for him uh i think it's a bummer there aren't monsters dancing around and rocking in there well even more insulting in Hollywood what replaced it was Spider-Man rocks yeah
Starting point is 01:44:32 I could be I could be in that show though you could would you have saved it would it still be going with your I think yes that's basically what I was trying to say is that I would have saved it I would have I can basically what I was trying to say is that I would have saved him I can fix him I can fix him
Starting point is 01:44:49 yeah I would have played multiple characters in the show once I think I would have done a lot of costume changes let me make one more point this is sort of this is related but the song What I Like About You by the Romantics I don't know why
Starting point is 01:45:08 I don't ever want to hear it again. Because it's in too many commercials. Honestly, same. Right? It doesn't exist as a song anymore. It's been ruined. Right. But I feel like there's some songs where I think it was overused in commercials.
Starting point is 01:45:24 Then a couple years later, I'm listening to it, to it and I go man this is a really good song I just maybe got too tired of hearing it But the romantics what I like about you Get rid of it I kind of agree with you It also kind of brings some PTSD Because that was the most like cardio song that I had to do Right before the mashup of smooth criminal and uh a sweet dream
Starting point is 01:45:45 so i'm like oh god here comes that song so i just have like there's so much dancing in your version there was like no people on stage when we watched the previous version we're like there's six people on this massive stage it feels empty so like they fixed that uh what i like about you also used in a lot of like for sitcom commercials. It's like the two guys, a girl, and a pizza place is back. What I like about you. And is it in this Amanda Bynes, Jenny Garth show, What I Like About You, right? Yes.
Starting point is 01:46:15 Oh, yeah. It was the theme of it. They named the show after it as well. Yeah, I agree. I think that song can be done for now. It died with the show. We've heard it plenty. Yeah, Beetlejuice think that song can be done for now. It died with the show. We've heard it plenty. Yeah, Beetlejuice was the ultimate iteration of it.
Starting point is 01:46:30 And what else are you going to do? Yeah, it was fun. Because then it went into, didn't it go into something? It went from, I don't know, I guess not. That one was maybe the only one that wasn't a mashup. Yeah, that one got a lot of time. That one got a lot of time. It did. I was was like this is the most
Starting point is 01:46:46 they've played a song they've done a song was what i like about you i think it's because they really wanted to highlight that there's three couples but there's so much going on it's still kind of hard to figure that out but it is like that's when they're like oh look that person's with that person and like it it rolls into you really got me going. Oh, yeah. You Really Got Me. You Really Got Me. That one's less played out. So we're saying less what I like about you, but how about far more what does the fox say? Yes.
Starting point is 01:47:17 It was perfect. You know, watch. I wanted more of that. I wanted more Gangnam Style. I started thinking about some 2010 stuff of like oh i never i realized i never finished watching like i never watched the last season of girls but what this beetlejuice reminded you of that yeah what well i was thinking about like he looks just like lena denham i know how much um 2010 stuff like i'm like, I never need to revisit this.
Starting point is 01:47:45 But watching this, I was like, I like seeing Watch Me Whip and Nay Nay. It's fun to hear what does the fox say. Well, yeah, spoiler. I guess I'm holding on
Starting point is 01:47:55 to novelty songs. The last episode of Girls is they all dance to Watch Me Whip, Watch Me Nay Nay. It's almost exactly like that. That'd be great.
Starting point is 01:48:03 Feel Jesus Graveyard Review. Yeah. Do you think of the show as happening today? Oh, yeah. Wolfman would be riding on the back of a vehicle as Dreams by Fleetwood Mac played
Starting point is 01:48:16 and he was drinking ocean spray. Because I think that's a slam dunk. I think that's, yeah. Is there some configuration of Seven to do like a BTS song? They would never get the rights for that, I feel like. You don't think so? No. Well, in Dream World, I guess you could.
Starting point is 01:48:33 Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, Genie would definitely, if the show was happening in California Adventure, Genie would definitely bring a bottle of juice on stage well so is the only is the answer maybe is that if if theme parks are not going to be able to have these shows like all of these characters maybe need to keep living on on tiktok like all these exactly all these beetle jai as you said multiple beetle juices
Starting point is 01:49:01 strewn about the world like need to get a that. Like, need to get a TikTok account going and start, you know, start firing those parodies out. A-step. Put the word out on that Facebook group, I think. Okay. Yeah, okay, I'll get them. I'll round them up,
Starting point is 01:49:18 and we'll make something happen. Okay, we're getting reports that Beetlejuice has stopped skateboarding and started complaining about ballot harvesting shut it down folks shut it down nothing can be fun it's 2020 nothing's fun ever this was fun though this is a blast to talk about this and jane clary you survived haunt cast the fright thanks for joining us so fun to talk to you about this it was so nice to be yeah yeah yeah thank you so much
Starting point is 01:49:45 so much fun let's exit through the gift shop is there anything you would like to plug oh sure um i just released a single a few weeks ago and a music video um so you can stream that anywhere any platform spotify apple music itunes blah blah it's on YouTube. On socials, I'm on Instagram and Twitter, underscore Jane Clare underscore, because the person who has at Jane Clare has been inactive for years, and I can't do anything about it. So I got to add that underscore.
Starting point is 01:50:15 But yeah. Can they find- Jane with a Y. Jane with a Y. Oh, yes. J-A-Y-N-E. And they can find the song under your real name on like Spotify yeah so just search
Starting point is 01:50:26 the song is called so glad you're mine but you have no idea who I wrote that about no but actually something cute Jason helped me film that so I filmed a lot of the b-roll but the stuff that I couldn't film Jason filmed for me so that's a cute little thing
Starting point is 01:50:41 that is a cute little thing duet collab that's wonderful cute little thing. That is a cute little thing. Duet collab. That's wonderful. Yeah, it was so fun. Yeah. So yeah, everyone check that out. As always, the three of our romantic collaboration that we call Podcast the Ride is available every Friday. You can find out more on social media.
Starting point is 01:51:03 We get our tea public, and there's three bonus episodes every Friday. You can find out more on social media. We get our tea public and there's three bonus episodes every month. This month, Behind the Cemetery Gate at patreon.com slash podcast the ride. Yeah, so just to sum up, I already said the thing about what I like about you. Well, then I think we have to
Starting point is 01:51:23 end with we have to end with we have to do the clap. Alright, and we hope you liked that episode of Podcast the Ride. Are there three? Did I do it right? No, wait, there's four. And that's what we like about
Starting point is 01:51:40 Beetlejuice's Graveyard Review. Review. Review. There. Very clean. We gotta say Beetlejuice three times review. Cut, cut, cut, cut. There. Very clean. Well, we gotta say Beetlejuice three times to close it out. Oh. You know, that's how you gotta end the show
Starting point is 01:51:51 because that's how we ended the show. Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice. That's how you end it? Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on real quick. I don't want to go in overtime here,
Starting point is 01:52:00 but if all three of us say his name at the same time since we're in separate places, would he all appear, he would get confused, right? What would happen? Yeah, how do they deal with Zoom? He shows up in a new Zoom window because he also is worried about catching the coronavirus. He would pop in broadcasting from
Starting point is 01:52:16 the underworld. I'm remotely zoning in. Oh, it works. There he is. I'm afraid. I'm back. I's here already. I'm back. I just took a huge shit. Beetle juice. Let's get out of here.
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