Podcast: The Ride - Buzz Lightyear Astro Blasters with Matt Apodaca

Episode Date: April 29, 2022

Matt Apodaca (Get Played) returns to the show to discuss Buzz Lightyear Astro Blasters/ 's Space Ranger Spin/Laser Blast/Planet Rescue. (These attractions are based on the toy, not the man the toy was based on.) Hugs Are Back episode up at The Second Gate: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Matt Apodaca returns to talk Buzz Lightyear Astro Blasters On today's podcast The Ride. Welcome to Podcast The Ride, which today, just to be clear, isn't about Lightyear the movie. This is the ride based on the movie about toys that the origin story about the human Buzz Lightyear is based on. I'm Scott Gardner. Hi, Jason Sheridan. Hi, yeah, I'm glad we settled that. Yeah, yeah, that's just to be clear. That's the only reason that was said. Mike Carlson, hi.

Hi, yes, and we should also clarify, this is a podcast not about the ride. It is a podcast based on the concept of the ride as a themed entity. Okay? So I want to make sure that, because people might be confused about what this podcast is even a few years in. And it's about the idea of the ride being something that's bigger than just an actual ride. So that's clear. I just want to make sure that's very clear.

Just to be clear. We're also really going out on a limb because we're probably going to touch on one, two, three, four, four different rides. There's a lot of names. A lot of names at play. It gets very complicated. So let's make sure all of our names get out before we start to do that, including our guest for today. Joining us for the first time in person, finally, not a Zoom, doing the real Podcast Threat Experience here in a hot garage. It's the only real way to do it.

From Get Played, it's Matt Apodaca. What's going hello and i just want to clarify that i'm actually not the mad apodaca but i'm based on mad apodaca so that's just like just so we all just are clearing the air there oh gee yeah so we're one level removed yeah yeah i'm the guy that like no i'm not gonna would you say you're an all i was gonna say were you are you like an homage i'm yeah uh maybe a mad apodaca pastiche okay got it got it it's not all of it but it's like you sort of homage i'm yeah uh maybe a man apodaca pastiche okay got it got it it's not all of it but it's like you sort of get it yeah yeah okay okay then i guess that word that's like yeah yeah we're like if you hear like dare to be stupid you sort of like get

devo you're like oh i understand i sort of understand oh sure yeah it's almost better it's almost like combines a bunch of things into one potent yeah uh matt in this case matt apodaca ish uh peace well that's great it's good to have you whatever you are here i'm excited to be here this i love this show so it's it's it's a honor to be in the garage oh fantastic uh uh yeah so so happy to have you uh been wanting to get folks who were so much fun over zoom but uh we yeah uh yeah i haven't actually done one in person so this is wonderful to look you in the eye. Finally, all this stuff is done. It's all this crazy COVID stuff.

It is over. We are celebrating. I was on a plane the other day, and I freaking cheered. I freaking laughed my, I was like, finally. I opened the emergency door and threw my mask out the door. You were on the flight. I was on the flight, yeah. Wow, were they announced.

Wow. Everyone hit pause on Ghostbusters Afterlife, and they're like, I got to clap. I got to clap. I was ready to clap when the plane landed, but I got to clap now. We went after the movie. Yeah, yeah, of course.

Hell, yeah. Because this did happen. My parents are telling me about it. They were not on one of the planes where this happened, they knew people who were oh wow got the announcement ladies and gentlemen you can remove your masks right now there was like a minute mid-flight where it happened yeah were there videos of the yeah yeah it was like on twitter yeah gotcha i can't think of a dorkier thing to do yeah like that's like way whacker than like wearing your mask i don't have to anymore well making the biggest deal out of the removal which is a very simple process yeah happen in less than a second

each strap whipping it like as if you're breaking through shackles using like the jaws of life to take it off your face like metal chest city belts on your face or something when you literally everybody had it off to yeah snack on pretzels minutes earlier yeah or you're like like houdini with this like locked like like vest you're just like oh it's like it's that big of a deal yeah it kind of revealed for me how few people actually have noise canceling headphones because that was a game changer for me flying like investing in decent noise canceling headphones like i feel like for me that would have been like a pull that your ear you know you're saying people up and like here i go oh okay and like just put it back and go back to my book or something you're saying you ignore all the

announcements now that you have the noise canceling headphones on headphones on a plane? I'm saying I don't catch some of them if I have it up loud enough. Yeah. Gotcha. I remember the last plane I was on, I was watching Venom 2, Let There Be Carnage, and I did miss some of it, but only because I had my AirPods just blasting, and everybody near me heard Let There Be Carnage as well. They're not great, but they have a job done.

Thank you for saying the full title. I got to give credit where credit's due and give art the respect it deserves. Of course, yeah. What a film. And there's carnage to be gotten. Yeah, I mean, it's in the movie. He says it.

Isn't that phrase said in the movie? He says it at the end of the first one uh and they were like you know what that's the title of the movie oh yeah oh yeah yeah they're like we have a title yeah like okay andy circus get to work baby man i am so behind i haven't watched that and i have not watched morbius the living vampire yet yeah i there's no way that i'm gonna see uh morbius uh within the next two years but maybe in three i'll give it i'll give it i'll give it a walk i'm gonna out myself that i was this how this is a little i pay attention and i've only seen that word just while flipping past on the internet or on twitter or something and i just thanked friend of the show andrew grissom for saying the title out loud in

front of me because i said it was bound to happen that i would on the podcast would just dive in and call it a moribus. I was like, I was so close to that happening. Now I've essentially let it happen now. But I really did think that I so much I have not come across Morbius before. Yeah. What a world. He was like kind of a big character in the Spider-Man cartoon in the 90s. But not memorable.

Like weirdos like me and Mike. Yeah, Michael Morbius. Michael Morbius, the living vampire. Dr. Michael Morbius. He's playing Dr. Michael Morbius. Felicia. Felicia. He said Felicia.

Yeah, he would say Felicia, which is Felicia Hardy, the black cat. Not in by Felicia. No, not by Felicia Yeah he would say Felicia Which is Felicia Hardy The black cat Black cat Not in By Felicia No not by Felicia You don't say by Felicia No although Now you've probably created An internet sensation

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All of them So much more for me it's a hit on our web on our page on true social yeah they mean they're partnered with true social now primarily congrats guys um so yeah so happy to have you and happy to talk about i think this topic makes a lot of sense that we landed on it is a gaming attraction just sort of where we were where we're leaning with other stuff you were talking about yeah you're very gaming versed and uh i love games yes yeah um you also were talking about though like you know carnival game oh yeah or the game because there are carnival games in theme parks yeah uh do you ever do you ever stop and take advantage of that do you give those

a whirl i feel like when i was a kid that was definitely something that i was like more interested in i was like oh like because like i feel like when i was a kid at knott's berry farm for example they had like like they would have like pokemon plushes like they didn't weren't like necessarily like in uh in theme park exclusive they would just like get like stewie or whoever uh right any sort of thing they could get that people would then want to spend like five dollars on three balls or something um and like i would always try to do that and i'd always try to like figure out like how to always try to figure out how to win. Because those games are sort of like, they're not impossible, but there is a trick to them, for some of them.

But I'd always do pretty well with the one where you have to blow up the clown's balloon head or whatever it is with water or something. Yeah, the water gun, basically. And it's a little tiny target and like a big yeah like rectangle and it's like sometimes it's like moving too so you have to like follow the moving uh thing uh but i would always do well with that because the other people playing that are usually uh younger children so i'd be like okay well i'm 10 i got smoking that yeah and they're upset uh and i get to take home my stewie um but did you win a stewie i don't know if i ever got a stewie um but like i i think the last time last time i did one um

we got a an off-color bullseye from uh one of the ones that um california adventure uh and it was like for my birthday my girlfriend um like paid for like the round of games and i still was like i didn't even try to like let her win i was like i'm gonna win and i won but i let her pick the uh the plush i don't know where it is now because like i guess i don't keep track that's the horse racing game where you throw the ball like the certain like there's like three different targets and they're like the hard you get farther in the race if you throw it in the more like far of the way far away target and they i feel like they had they had a different i wanted to play again because like if you then you know if you win more than once you can like sort of get a bigger prize and they had like a mickey with like a

hawaiian shirt and i was like that's sort of more of the vibe i would like yeah that's good um california adventure yeah well yeah this guy you this guy, just by the look of him, he's got stories. So I wanted to see what he was all about. But we didn't even play that much. We didn't play more because more people then showed up and I was like, I don't like our odds. We got to get out of here.

Yeah, yeah. I've talked to real, I talked about accidentally winning a Homer on the Santa Monica boardwalk. And I realized after I was done, it was the horse racing game. I had beaten eight children. This was like 10 years ago.

So I was in my 20s. Is this the way maybe you both have stumbled on the hack here? If you want to win one, that it has to be competition. Because if it's you versus nobody, maybe you end up empty handed. But if it's you versus many children. Well, right. That helps a lot the water gun game you're talking about and then the horse racing

game both has to have a winner also because some games where it's just you got to get three strikes or whatever and then that you can just fail at and win or get like a ping pong ball in like a weird round dish yeah like that's a sometimes like a frog based game

you have to do something like that'll still like there'll be a lot of winners but maybe like you're not a sometimes like a frog based game yeah yeah you have to do something like that'll still like there'll be a lot of winners but maybe like you're not going to get a bigger prize no no no i won against no one uh back when i went to disney world all right i won uh uh i think i talked about it on my trip report episode but like we were at animal kingdom it was pouring rain all day and there's a carnival gains by the rubble of the primeval whirl and uh jane played she she paid for a round it was a wiffle ball uh you were given like x number of wiffle balls and you had to get it in like a wooden like surface that was filled with holes yeah uh and it you know so eventually it goes in a hole

but it had to be a colored hole to win a prize and she she didn't get it in or bounced out and i was like all right i'll give it a shot and i just went like wild card with it like i got i just didn't aim i just threw it high and it came right down and went right in the medium prize hall that right and it was yeah pretty good yeah yeah he just held for applause for the listener at home like they're gonna be applauding uh they lifted you up on everybody's shoulders and they locked you down main street and like this man's a god they put him in the tree the tree of life yeah waves everyone right here yeah the uh uh i think i've said this before too mike i would love these carnival games too because there would be a local carnival and there would be a guy most years who

would like loudly tell you how the prize system worked and he would be like we're playing for another big and we are playing for another big two biggins for a jumbo and like we love this guy and we would play this game and i don't think we ever even want a big and i think we got a small the smallest version we did not get a big small ones um but i don't think we spent enough money yeah if somebody's shouting that they're about to do one with a big and, you're immediately more interested than you were a second ago, but when you didn't hear anything. Yes. You're just like, wait a second, a biggin?

A biggin sounds fun. It's such an earworm. It's not a word you're used to hearing. No. Yeah. Maybe only hear it there. A biggin, two biggins for a dumbo. I do think carnival barking is an unsung art.

I always am so impressed with everybody just working their ass off at a carnival. Because that's, you know, it's hard. It seems hard to me. It's like, yeah, you do for hours. Yeah. Yelling for hours. And you got to pack it up and move on to the next city. That's crazy.

Yeah. It is. It's an interesting life, I would assume. Yeah. I wonder how many people are still like on the road 300 days a year with a carnival a decent amount i bet i would i would assume so i watched that movie the uh nightmare alley and i kind of wanted it i wasn't uh i didn't love it um because it wasn't as interesting as i wanted it to be which was then just seeing more carnival stuff it was not enough carnival you want a documentary yeah yeah i guess i wanted to see like

uh pov footage of a carnival somebody experiencing a carnival yeah unedited rough footage security cam uh you should there's an old movie called gun crazy okay and it's about two people doing trick shots at carnivals like they're like marksmen yeah and then they start robbing banks uh but like that sounds awesome the way they seduce each other is by like they put apples on each other's head in front of an audience and then they shoot a gun at it oh my god and and that is is like oh everyone's just cool with this that i mean that's like i love heist movies too so that's like a combination of things i'm in what's it called gun crazy gun crazy also known as deadly is the female wow crazy type 1950 uh it's a trumbo it's a uh it was blacklisted yeah uh but it was yeah it's a trumbo secret trumbo because it's like that's a biggin

yeah it's like a b movie and then but it is like this is better than you think it would be like it's it's like in the national film registry so i forget where it was on hbo max i don't know if it's still up there but uh yeah so so matt you were like you were very i would say like because i feel like the same way i was very game obsessed when i was young too because i liked video games a lot but then yeah going to a place where there was the winning aspect that was like really exciting but also like some of these places like like disneyland had an arcade for a while and like even in the whatever it's called now um the that thing in Tomorrowland that's now like an Avengers, sort of like a Marvel presentation place or something

where they had Asimo. Oh, all that. Yeah. What is that? Star Wars. Yeah. In there, they had like, I feel like I played Guitar Hero in there one time.

They had it set up. Probably. And I think it might have been like even like or it might have been lego rock band oh wow and so i was playing with other kids like probably to like uh taylor swift or something yeah what's different about the lego it's more like i think it's a little more like these are like radio dis type hits or something. Oh, sure. Less likely to be raunchy. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

No Buck Cherry or anything like that on there. Damn it. Filthy Buck Cherry. A lot of Microsoft sponsorship there. Yes. You got a lot of Xbox stuff. So I think it was like on an Xbox, yeah. Yeah.

And I was like, I don't have this. Windows, whatever the current wind at the time was where it's like yeah you can run a whole house with windows me i feel like i remember like windows 7 being like a big deal yes like uh like just in my lifetime i remember hearing everybody being like wow windows 7 wow we should do an episode on the windows house i remember that being like kind of interesting because i remember um friend of mine. You know what? I don't know if you've had Ify Wadiwe on the show before. We have.

Okay, I've been to Disneyland with him quite a bit because he's one of my oldest friends. I've known him for like 16 years. Former employee as well. Yeah, well, yeah, we were former coworkers. We worked at the Improv together. And he also, he's just, I mean, all going on and on about how much I love him. But we went to Disneyland a lot.

And we went into that display room. And we got everybody around us because you can change the music and stuff. We put the cha-cha slide on. We got everybody in there to do the cha-cha slide. Wow. Oh, wow. You turned it into an actual attraction a yeah actual attraction like wait a minute this is gonna be fun because i mean there's a certain type of person that i feel like uh

they're probably all at disneyland if you hear a cha-cha slide you're gonna participate yeah yeah yeah i do it there yes wait this is sorry this is still the this is lego rock band or is this is the windows this was in the windows house because you can like change this i think there was like the music there was a thing in the room you're like oh look you can put on whatever songs you want on this thing and one of them one of the pre-loaded ones was the cha-cha slide they tried to do a a call back to the house of the future or the house of tomorrow the one that you know was the 60s attraction yeah that like they had to get so many wrecking balls to destroy uh right or right so towards the end of interventions out here they recreated like the inside of a house

that you could like look you can run this with windows 7 yeah this is free like net uh like nest or like smart home stuff is just catching on. All the I remember the screens and stuff you were supposed to like the touch screens like you had to hit it so hard. Really get in there. Like it was just really not like now. Now all our

smart homes that work so yeah. We love our smart homes. Sometimes I'm like oh I barely touched this thing. It already just did it. It knew where you were headed yeah it just heard what i was thinking i love my fridge where i can see what's inside the fridge that's great yeah i love that boy in my house all the effort you save but yeah that oh because those those things can stick yeah oh yeah force sometimes sometimes i'm just so so weak can't even open my fridge i just like to know that there's food in there if i need it lack of

food because you're weak because all you've done is look inside and not eat anything of course um well let's take a few steps over in the uh embattled land of tomorrow land uh uh you know it's it's a it's a it's a spotty realm in almost every park perhaps save for this attraction. One of the only things that has worked in Tomorrowland and that packs them in the Buzz Lightyear attraction. I guess, I don't know, is now the time to discuss the names. Sure, I got it in front of me. There's so many. Yes, Jason, please.

I don't know if you know this. It has a different name in almost every, it has been in six different Disney parks with slightly different, maddeningly similar names. Which we, of course, have to go through. That's very good and not confusing. During one period of time, there was a very small window

where It and Dumbo were the only things at all six castle parks throughout the world. Wow. And then Hong Kong closed theirs to build the Ant-Man and the Wasp ride. Nano battle. Yes. Nano battle, exclamation point. So in Walt Disney World in Florida, it's Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin.

In Tokyo Disney- Wait, hang on though, because there's an important thing. Is it a possessive? It is. It's apostrophe S. This one is possessive. This is the only possessive. Sometimes Buzz claims, there's an important thing. Is it a possessive? It is. It's apostrophe S. This one is possessive. This is the only possessive. Sometimes Buzz claims, it's the only one.

Okay, yeah. Only in this case does he claim ownership. It is his. Otherwise, his name is just kind of butted up next to the name. Yeah. It is Buzz Lightyear Astro Blasters at Tokyo Disneyland, Disneyland in Anaheim, and Hong Kong Disneyland. That's also the order that those opened.

And then it's Buzz Lightyear Laser Blast in Disneyland Paris, and Buzz Lightyear Planet Rescue at the Shanghai Park, which is noticeably different. Like a massive upgrade. Wow. Oh, that's good. Okay, okay. Gotcha.

What do we call this episode that's i don't know yeah i was gonna yeah i'll sort this out now i guess i think it's astro blasters which one do we like the bat oh does everyone have a favorite i've uh i was gonna say planet rescue seems to be like the only one that like make like rings true to me for some reason even though that's like not what it's called like it's sort of like because i don't know like based on like what you do in the uh in the ride in the experience uh i guess you also blast astro so it's hard to say like what is actually happening you've lost that yeah yeah in your mind you mean by because you're blasting and there's space stuff around that qualifies as blasting astro yeah yeah you're like an astronaut so you're blasting it's

like oh well here to blast some astro i'm here to blast some astro i mean hopefully he says that in the new movie or at least we could be we could be maddening and like combine a few in a wrong way and then make people mad as soon as they open it up laser laser ranger blaster ranger blaster space or buzz light yeah you're right astros jumble them all i think astro because like most that one has three of them yeah three of them yeah majority wins yeah i think that is the best title for me there's three of them and four seem like the same they have the guns you can take out it looks a little better than the florida one okay which kind of made i didn't

dawn on me like the order these opened in where i was like oh they kind of did on the cheap in florida they went all a little more all out in tokyo and then they just kept cloning the tokyo one until shanghai where they were kind of building everything from scratch. And they went a little harder. A little fancier. Yeah, yeah. Matt, I assume you're primarily familiar with the Disneyland one.

Yeah, I've been to the Florida park, but not for now probably like 20 years. I went when I was young. Sure. I assure you it is exactly the same i'm sure i'm not sure it's there's even been any paint put on it i want to go back i gotta see this avatar uh area i'd love to see that's like that to me is almost worth like booking a vacation around i really want to go see it i would yes i wouldn't disagree yeah it's something because we watched the um my girlfriend and i watched the, those Imagineer documentaries

too on Disney Plus, which are great. And I had no interest in any other Disney parks like around the world. And I was like, I want to go to all of them. They all seem like they have their own cool, I mean, they made their own great propaganda. I was like, this looks awesome. I love this. I film them very well thanks for showing me disney you're watching big ads but they're very well done yeah they're

wonderful but yeah i i used to have a uh an annual pass to um to disneyland and california adventure uh and i would frequent the uh buzz lightyear astro blasters quite a bit because it's like a i don't know it's it's fun it's it's fun i think it's fun and good uh and i feel like nowadays you can get in there under 10 minutes like it's it's pretty it's a pretty low uh low census uh in that line not a lot of people go in there but you can you know when there's a long line for something else you you're like, wait a minute, we can just go do Astro Blasters real quick. And then, you know, what's 45 minutes in 10 minutes? You know, it's the same thing. Yeah, yeah, sure.

It's a good, like, wind down the day ride. Yes. Especially, you're probably not looking at much of a line. No. Often the last thing I do. I feel like they're blasting the AC in there, too. So, like, on a hot day, you can get in there know get get some get get cool before you get back out and yeah and also the line moves because it's the nomina mover system so that it's constantly moving so the line

generally even if it's a little longer than 10 you're why you just need your movement movement really which is bigger sometimes than the actual length you're waiting yeah yeah there's a slight outdoor line if it's really crowded you usually get through it pretty quickly so yeah if you need to cool down you can get inside pretty fast if i see that outdoor i'm like yeah i'm doing it it gives you a good yeah yeah if it's outside i'm like okay there's something yeah a lot of people are getting involved today it gets a little like i don't easily get claustrophobic but like between the outdoor line for that and then the outdoor line for the astro orbiter like with these very narrow paths like yeah i haven't figured out this crowd

flow yeah it's been since the late 90s this weird show one of the few choke points yeah yeah it's very jammed over there yeah when it gets jammed in that area i almost like don't know what to do like because there's like there's not a great flow of traffic in that in that particular section that you're talking about and there's people coming in both directions and i often feel like i'm standing completely still behind someone sometimes and i'm just like well i'm supposed to be moving i want to be walking i missed but my group is all the way over there and i'm stuck behind yeah someone who forgot how to like participate in walking traffic yeah sometimes it's best to go the other like if you see the omnibus pulling up uh on mainstream i'm

going around the matterhorn yeah like yeah run for the train and run for the matter like just get out of that area i I don't recognize offhand what the Omnibus is. That's the double-decker bus. You ever done the Omnibus? Oh, yeah. I don't think I have. Both levels.

Wow. Both levels. What do you recommend? The top. Oh, I like to be high up. Oh, yeah. Heitmeiser. Heitmeiser.

Yeah, Heitmeiser. Does that cover the Omnibus? Did we just do the Omnibus episode or is there more about that? Oh, no, there's a lot more Omnibus stuff Did we just do the Omnibus episode? Or is there more about them? Oh, no, there's a lot more Omnibus stuff. All right, okay. Just checking. Seeing if I can get out of it.

You gotta get on this bus. Separate episodes for bottom level. Look, I've already compromised today. There's like multiple different Buzz Lightyear names and it should be like four or five. I wondered if that would get, yes. Technically, look, Space Ranger Spin is a whole other. It's very like, this is a ride deployed to do a lot of rescuing,

just as Buzz Lightyear is rescuing planets. It's always filling spaces where things have kind of come unraveled. In Disney World, it was filling the space left by this progression of weird airplane advertising rides. I don't know if you ever got to go on any of those for any reason. I don't think so. There was this spot that was just rides that were blatant ads for first Eastern Airlines and then Delta. Eastern, which is gone right there's no like yeah for a long time but was the official airline of disney world and now is the official

airline of hell yes that's right uh we're delta right which is i kind of liked the delta one we're gonna get into some of these other ones dreams that's dream flight uh which we all got to go on if you had wings that's my mother loved if you had wings huh so like that was like a beloved ride by people i never got to go on it but my mom loves soaring like she can get choked up talking about soaring uh yeah she loves me too my mom too yeah she like two things it's the greatest like one of the best things she's ever seen there are so many moms that have this story yeah and that is true like i like soren i like it too but she's like she goes nuts for it yes moms go nuts for soren this is a fact so josh groban of rides good point well you know we missed the you know there's a new york freestanding soren there's like a one-off oh right yes times square they're everywhere now

we should have done that toronto i think um vegas i did vancouver i talked about there there's and there's two different movies in the vegas one i forget what it is i think it's like soaring over red rocks and and las vegas and i don't know what the other one that plays is there's one that i i didn't mention it when we talked about heritage usa the other one that place is there's one that i i uh didn't mention it when we talked about heritage usa we're talking about religious parks there's one a guy who tried to buy that place and revamp it and failed he later in san diego there is something called wings over israel wow really what is built that is a there is a religious Sorin, even, except they don't do the part where you lift up. You are just in shaky chairs.

There is a big dome, and you take wings over Israel. I don't know what you see exactly. Pigeon Forge has one in Tennessee. Wings over Pigeon Forge? Yeah, what do you know what it is? Become a pigeon. Yeah, become. I mean, that's cool. I would like to see what a pigeon gets up to what they eat poop on a statue yeah oh yeah if you could

yeah if there's like vibrating haptics on your chair that were like make you feel the feeling that's a million dollar idea uh it's mine it's mine okay all right um okay then in disneyland what this it took over a space there was a bunch of things it was circle vision movies but the last thing that it was before was the it was all the line for the rocket rods this weird did you ever do that i don't remember i really don't remember that i know that because i i mean i'm from here so i've been like going to disneyland like my whole life uh but like i don't remember i feel like i don't remember the park before i feel i i remember when astro blasters like was new and it was like exciting uh but um i don't remember anything before that so like maybe when i was there before it was like still like under construction or part of the line or something oh maybe yeah but i don't

yeah i i don't remember i don't even remember the rocket rides i remember oh no maybe this is that knott's berry farm they had these like rides that like they had to shut down because people kept like falling out of it and they were like these like singular like cages or something that went high up or something is that like a was that a parachute i think it was like a parachute yeah yeah because that's not there anymore no no i think yeah i think maybe uh one too many people fell out uh i think reason yeah yeah they're like that we gotta we gotta knock it off but um i also feel like i mean where are we all at with Buzz Lightyear as a character? I feel like I love Buzz. Oh, I loved him as a kid.

I still like him. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I, there's been, I guess he's a little out of this, but my son was so, it was just, there was multiple toy stories a day for a little while. Sure.

So I got familiar, I got re-familiarized with them to the point where like, I knew it as well as the animators probably did. There is a stretch in time, but they never really like occasionally it was just like we've done enough one let's do three today sure that's all but there's enough of the and the shorts are fun so it was kind of a pleasure to be to just have constant toy stories around um and buzz is great and the kind of the world that the ride is pulled from because it really is kind of the implied buzz lightyear universe that's in the cold open of two where you're fully in his world and you meet zerg yeah and uh it's just it's a really neat that fake out i think works really well.

You're really wondering what the movie is up to. And wait, are we going to stay in Buzz Lightyear world? I remember being like disappointed a little bit when I was a kid and that came out. I was like, well, wait a second. I want to see this movie. That looks cool. Yeah, yeah. They're watching this?

All the tech of it is pretty neat, I'd say. But is any of the theming in Astro Blasters based on the cartoon? Because we were a big fan of the cartoon also. astro blasters based on the cartoon because we were yeah so the queue has art in the style of uh the short-lived one season cartoon buzz light year of star command yeah and the direct-to-video buzz light year of star command oh there's a movie uh yeah we my brother's creative subtitle i've ever heard we loved it we liked it too yeah i really liked it and because i think patrick warburton is um is buzz um in the in the cartoon i think um good that's a pretty good and switch out i don't know i think i was just like a young seinfeld fan i was

like oh this guy's funny yeah yeah oh for sure i i would have been like wrapping up middle school or starting high school yeah but still at the age where it's like if there's nothing good on cable what is in syndication on broadcast yeah this i feel like would come on upn at during their very very odd kids blocks yeah that were always changing and it was always stuff where it's like, Botsmaster, the fifth most popular Saban readout show. Stuff like that. And that's where Buzz Lightyear ended up, oddly enough. Because at that point, I think Disney had bought ABC. And the Disney Channel was chugging along.

I just remember being very interested in the extended universe of Buzz Lightyear. Because you don't get that in the movie, right? So to know that he has this other life as this space hero. And I was like, oh, that's kind of fun. And now, I guess it doesn't exist, right? Because this movie is coming out. Yeah, this wipes out that show, essentially. We're saying that is not the buzz unless well that is a that was a show that was based on the toy that is based on the movie that

andy saw we're back in this territory oh man i don't know why i forgot this i saw yet another clarification of what the buzz light your movie coming out is i think i saw this too and it's like they're they're like it's basically like a movie that Andy would see. And like, this is his Star Wars is what I saw. Yeah. I think what the clarification was. Set the bar high.

Yeah. Yeah. The clarification I think was like, okay, Andy would have watched that cartoon we were just talking about as well. But this would have been like the big budget version that Andy would watch. Lightyear, the movie coming out out so these are both not true like like these are both fictional stories even though that's kind of contradicts what the chris evans initial tweet was yes but i think the director yeah the director

was maybe the director somebody worked on the movie was trying to clarify that this is like andy would have seen light year and it's just like the yeah yeah it's the big budget version there's multiple versions like there are with ip in our world yes yeah so that's what it's like well like ninja turtles there's a big ninja turtles movie but then various tv yeah and the toy maybe doesn't look like the one in the movie. Right. Where it's, I mean, actually the confusion is kind of doing a good job recreating how, like, or Batman even more so than like, there's a Batman cartoon that doesn't look like the movie and that the toy is

different than that. There are three actors playing Batman currently. Like. Tough to keep, it really keeps you on your toes as a kid to learn all of this. Yeah. So no, no wonder you tuned out Morbius.

There's no real feeling. I'm not going to learn. I don't have time for this. I was busy with Batman. I didn't have Batman to wrap my head around. I'm now regretting that I didn't look into Buzz Lightyear of Star Command earlier. Because all these, I'm catching names that are wonderful. Brent Starkisser.

Yeah. There's a reporter in there. That's pretty good. Wait, there's another guy. there's an evil buzz who is also warburton there's a petra hammerhold voiced by nicky cox plasma boy voiced by michael showalter wow director of uh tammy faye movie michael show is this on disney plus it's not i just looked it up wow i think it'd be under like in the way that they put up some of the older star wars cartoons and stuff as they're like yeah there's the weird header on or it's like star wars stories yeah it doesn't count light year stories

yeah oh i see that's their way of saying it's a little make them up stone don't worry don't concern your little head with these they did they did like i think last year put up the getty tartakovsky like shorts that are really cool yeah yeah those are awesome um and then they also put up the limited animation droids cartoons and the horrifying ewoks movies oh are those oh yeah the ewoks are i was talking to the other night i feel like i was talking about that where like in the one movie she she has an indicator like wrist cuff thing and she watches the like each of her family is a light each member of her family she watches them die one by one oh my god and this was a kiss movie very upsetting what a cold way to watch just go out and the previous movie was all about reuniting the family and the

start oh no i swear i'm right if i'm misremembering this i something happened to me uh where i like hit my head watching this movie but i swear like this is glued in my mind in the way that like i i graduated elementary school got taken out to lunch and then we saw the live action casper movie and something just froze in my mind of just hearing devin saw go can i keep you like it's just an early like uh-oh he's gonna become a comedian he's hung up on something weird uh-oh should have caught that can i keep you can you just describe it see from my conversation seems like women of a certain age their coming of age was that moment for like there's dozens of people this is true every yeah almost everyone i know attuned yeah it's like horny for devin

it was like casper or devin uh i think casper i mean casper is funny but in fact so and stretch and all the other guys yeah oh sure sure that's how you know yes the the girls whose sexual awakening yeah yeah stinky i guess i mean uh christina ricci is who i'm speaking of oh yeah yeah uh i found the exact quote real quick about light year oh yeah, yeah. From the writer-director. Yeah. Lightyear, it's the movie that Andy saw that changed his life. Andy's Star Wars. So that's officially what it is.

Is that? Oh, man. You heard it? I used the director's edit. Yeah, he played with the toy a lot, but then he ends up giving the toy away. What's really the permanent trajectory of Andy's life? Yeah. If he likes this movie, if it changed his life, why did he give the toy?

Do we know? Buzz away right away. Woody's the only one that had a chance at college. Yeah. Yeah. Well, what is he going to college to do? Do we ever find that out? I don't think we know Andy's profession.

No. Okay. Presumably going to be working the rodeo. Yeah. If he's thinking about keeping Woody. Yeah. He's going to rodeo school working the rodeo if he's yeah if he's thinking about keeping woody yeah he's going to rodeo school he's doing like lasso tricks uh he's four years it's very involved so we don't know and then we don't see we don't see uh andy in the four because it's bonnie so we don't know how it changed his life yet. We know that he's not in animation or a podcaster because he gave the toys away.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the worst ending of a movie I've ever seen is when he gives those toys away. Yeah. He like became cool. It's Mike's nightmare.

We don't know what's handy. We don't know if he gets into bowling shirts and rockabilly. You know? We don't know. Fr gets into bowling shirts and rockabilly. You know, we don't know. Frantically searching eBay and like behind the scenes. He should. There should be him in his mid thirties. Rebuying all the toys off of eBay. That should be a toy story.

They don't all know each other. So when they all meet each other, they're strangers now who talk like the ones that we knew. That's the reboot. That's like, yeah. What a good idea, by the way. Yeah, yeah. When he said...

That's ours. That's ours. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, okay. Let's edit this. Why doesn't he play with us? Why doesn't he just put us in an Ikea Billy bookshelf and look at us sometimes? The Detolf is what you're...

Is the real... Oh, excuse me. The Detolf is the ultimate toy displayer's shelf. That's Detolf. Detolf. Detolf. Detolf. D-E-T-O-o-l-f that's an ikea though that's an ikea yeah and that's the optimum display cabinet for i'm a calax man myself

yeah that guy was like the scariest man to me when i was like a little kid i was like this is horrific what he's doing to these toys and i don't think he should be allowed sid or the toy man oh i mean but i was less afraid of sid but I was more afraid of the Toy Man. Oh, okay. There was something lecherous about his behavior to me. He was like, he was a craven. I just didn't care for his personality. Well, his design is like, you know, many of like, he looks like dozens of the people

who ultimately were Me Too'd when that movement was in full swing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. He does look like one of them. That's what I was responding to as an eight-year-old. Would Al have been me too'd had he... We don't see what he does.

But I'm sure... He's definitely like an MRA type guy. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's true. Oh, yeah. It'd be funny, though... He backs the blue. I know the director has clarified it's like this is a big budget movie in this world. It'd be funny though he backs the blue I know the director

has clarified it's like this is a big budget movie in this world it'd be funny if it was like a big budget flop if it was like

oh yeah it's like Andy saw the Tom Cruise you mean incontinuity of flop oh Andy saw Gods of Egypt

and it just changed his life yeah or it's like Flash Gordon or something or it's like sort of like a cult

sort of like hit cult sort of like hit, yeah. Andy was mesmerized by Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow. So it changed his life by like ruining his social life

for many years because he couldn't go talk at school about the thing he loves because no one else likes it. Listen to me, it's two movies.

It's Death Proof and Planet Terror, okay? And there's fake trailers in between you can watch them separately my mom told the story when uh growing up that um the weekend that et came out she saw tron and she was the only one of her friends that saw tron and everybody else saw et and she was absolutely like eviscerated at school like what's oh and then you can't there's no further detail you could

produce that doesn't sound like the dorkiest thing you've ever well there's somebody there's a guy named ram you see go play with someone else so they're like computer graphics yeah and they look good? No. They look. There's only in the movie, yeah. There's bikes that make hard right angles. That would be impossible in our world.

It'd have to be a little curve at least. You don't know who David Warner is? What? You can repeat this in like X number of years where it's like, Daft Punk do the soundtrack. Sounds cool.

That sounds cool, though. Yeah, yeah. Took the world. They were pretty cool. It took the world a long time to catch up with your mom. No, I don't. I feel like when I saw, was it Legacy?

Tron Legacy. Tron Legacy. People in my theater were like cheering before the movie started. They were all very excited about Tron Legacy. And then they all sort of walked out sort of like no all right then yes we have an hour in okay well got a nap in i mean very cool vibes between the visual i feel like the visuals still look great yeah yeah i still give it up for that more than i i don't it's just i said this but both movies like once it really

kicks in you're like okay last half hour interesting yeah i i'm uh uh i would go as far as to say a staunch defender of uh tron legacy i i really like it yeah yeah is do we have that is there any movement on the rumored leto tron oh man i hope, man, I hope not. I don't... Are we going to see Moribus? Is Moribus going in? Is Moribus? Yeah, Moribus is in that one. Moribus! I feel like I'm hearing about the Jared Leto-tron

since I moved to Los Angeles. It's always been with you, and it always will. Yeah, I... The idea of it will always be. The movie itself won't get made. It's real to me. It's really me. That's right. To get back to the ride a little bit, I mean, we can break off details of it, but is there

a part of the experience you enjoy the most? Do you feel like, well, here's is how do you how do you approach it do you care about getting a high score or are you just hanging for fun um well i guess i care about getting a higher score than whoever i'm sitting with like so great i want to do better than you know my brother or whoever i'm there with uh i like i don't know there's because i know that there are like there are hidden targets, too, that are really fun. If you can get them,

you get more points for getting these special targets. But I feel like a vast majority of my profile pictures on MySpace were the picture that you get at the end of the ride. Because they take your picture in there, then you can email it to yourself. You do the email i have countless god knows if i combed through my gmail yeah absolutely the only one i could find uh was with you it was i think you forwarded it to me yeah we were on it together uh you kicked my ass too you were like wow me

i mean i don't think either of them were i think we're both still under 100 too. You were like double me. I mean, I don't think either of them were. I think we're both still under 100K, but you were like handily ahead. Yeah, I don't. I'm not good at. I'm not pretty. Like when we did the Toy Story Midway Mania, like Griffin smoked my ass immediately. I think I like to chase the trick shot, like the far away targets. Yeah, yeah. I just learned about the sequence targets where it's

like shoot the box shoot the target on the lid when it opens up that activates a monster who has the triangle oh yeah target that has the highest you know scoring ones right right um if you just do a quick search in your email galactic greetings yes that'll be where what the email says when they've been sent and i have one i have like a 2009 through a couple years ago you got a lot of them i have a good amount i think i have not done it recently is the email feature turned on uh i don't know i don't know the answer i have not done it since covid i feel like i i think i stopped doing it because something about the way that look, the tech is a went in and Disneyland in 2004.

And I think you kind of feel the 2004 of it. And I just, if, if that, uh, it's a slow keyboard and if it ever gets stuck, I'm like, I just want to stop and not finish my,

not put in my entire email. I, for some reason I lose i lose power if i feel like that keyboard is not keeping up um so i i think i just stopped wanting to make that stop and it often as i said it's often the last thing i'm doing for the day so i just like uh choose to go home instead oh i've got a pic i've got you and I, for some reason, have that photo you were just talking about, Scott. I have you and Jason in my email. Wow. I searched it and I'm sort of, the date on this photo is kind of harrowing.

It's March 8th, 2020. Oh, my God. Just by the skitter. Whoa. Whoa. So you're looking at a different man. Yeah. This is a person who-

You are not this person anymore. They're sort of like... I remember this day, because we went and we were well aware of COVID, of course. And we were all sort of like, we probably shouldn't be here. This is crazy, right? And then we were there all day. Yeah. And my girlfriend did get sick that day, but it wasn't a COVID related thing.

Oh, okay. That's right there. I realize now that you forwarded me this picture of you and Scott. And if you look, I have a draft that I never sent. And all that's written in the draft is, why? That absolutely could have been just on autopilot yeah if we were doing it late at night and i i'm like forward yeah and i'm thinking about show stuff and i just auto did it to you yeah i ought to just did it to both who knows when did we start this podcast wasn't it later

that year no it was before that i think was it 2016 it 2016? No, it was 2017. So that was 2017. July 2017. This is before the podcast then. Wait, what year did you say? Maybe the picture was a proof of concept. You're like, hey, look at this. Oh, yeah. I thought this was 2018.

I have one from February 8th, 2017. Okay, that's us. Really? That's you and Jason. Yes, that's you and Jason. So it does predate the podcast Before the podcast Wow

Jason has 84,900 And you have 30,200 I hate to out-requite Oh god Oh even more than a third Yeah I'm looking through my scores too And my best score is

450,000 Jeez Oh yikes And that's from 2019 So I got I started in 2009 At 250,000. You were sending me, you were sending the email, why did you send this pitiful score?

For me to laugh? If so, thank you. This is an Arrested Development style call forward or like a lake house situation where I sent it. I didn't know why. And maybe the reason was for this day. Right. We would have a message in the bottle. Like a message in the bottle.

You sent us content for the future. Yeah, I did. Wow. My score on this photo is 230,800. Not a bad score. Pretty good. Pretty good. I think you're, well, maybe you're both good at this.

With that score, Mike, that's very solid. That's much, and that's higher. We must have gotten, that's 2019. We must have gotten stuck right in front of the secret target. Yeah, you can get stuck in there and that's much and that's higher i we must have gotten and that's 2019 we must have gotten stuck right in front of the secret target yeah you can get stuck in there and that's that's nice because it seems like 250 is my normal-ish zone yeah um i also there have been times where i'm in an odd number of people in my group and i'll opt to sit in it by myself so i can dual wheel yeah oh wow that's that's fun that is i've tried that, but I'm not good at that. It's not, I don't get, one score is going to be a lot better than the other one.

But it's still pretty fun. You're like a John Wick scenario. I'm thinking I'm back. And you're in there and Zurg is fucking scared. To go, I've never seen unprecedented. Please, my father has money. I think Zurg is a good character. I'm sort of like, kind of, I wish there seen Unprecedented. Please, my father has money. I think Zurg is a good character.

I'm sort of like kind of, I wish there was more Zurg. I like Zurg. I like Zurg a lot. Is Zurg in Lightyear? Yeah, he is. Yeah. Okay, good. He's in the trailer now.

Okay. They've revealed Zurg. That rocks. They're hiding it. But it's sort of, I think the approach is kind of anime is what they're saying. I think it's kind of a robot suit is the idea uh which i guess is consistent with you know he's sort of a vader he's like a kid's yeah yeah we don't really know what's inside that or if he is fully a robot right maybe he is because he's deploying robots

in the rot like that's kind of a lot of who you're facing off against at least for the first part of it like it's big boxy robot it's almost like rock'em sock'em style robots in the first couple of rooms but then you get to planet z where there's now uh aliens in play yeah right i'm really guessing here because in thinking in prepping this episode i was like i have no landmarks in my head or moments from this ride what the ride is to me is there's a z there's a z there's another z i really do not uh stop and take it in yeah sticks out to me watching the ride footage is how many of the robots have little plaques that say Zerg rules. That's a pretty funny detail. Yeah, that's good.

I hope they're in the movie. This is, and maybe I'm getting ahead of myself, but this is a ride that I almost appreciate that it doesn't look great. It's not, especially now, and it doesn't hold up so much. I've always liked it, and especially when it came out first,

I thought it was, because it was the first thing that was a big video game, so I was ecstatic about that aspect. Yeah. But unlike Men in Black, which has crazy, it's in the Orlando ride, Men in Black at Universal, has like very elaborate animatronics and it's still a shooting game.

Big sets too. Big sets and stuff. Yeah. That sounds awesome. It is awesome. But you're still like, you have that panic of trying to get a high score. So you're not taking stuff in as much. So I do like, because I agree with you scott where i'm like i remember like a couple things but i've been on this ride so many times and i don't really have a good like geography

for where things are because i'm in a panic to get a high score but it's good that the ride so what i'm saying is it's good the ride kind of looks like shit in places that's what i'm saying the storyline of the ride it kind of like that toy story 2 opening it kind of splits the difference between the reality of the world and the reality of it's a bunch of toys with double a batteries yeah yeah yeah squeaky the little green men there's cool cool stuff when i say shit i'm exaggerating yeah but it is yeah no it's it's neat and fun in there but it is very it's like a it's a high-end laser tag yes that's good that's it that's the most amount of best yes yeah that's the most

amount of theming i want for a ride that i'm like panicking trying to get scores and not taking that word a lot of times now is does that describe your frame of mind you do you it is a panic um maybe it's not panic but it is definitely like very focused i'm very focused about getting a good score i don't like to mess with the because there's like a directional like toggle on the ride too that you can sort of swerve in either direction uh i like to i like to be in control of that if it's going to move at all yes because i don't necessarily trust who i'm with all the time right to uh know where to go, where to point it. Yeah, kind of a lesser necessity for the later versions of the ride where you can take the gun out of the holster and there's the cable.

The Florida one, the guns are mounted like a carnival game kind of thing. Still? Yeah. God. And so it's kind of more necessary. Also, the Florida one, very much more clearly painted flats like the tokyo and the anaheim ones a little more depth to them a little more movement uh-huh they have some more like robot three-dimensional things that are like look cool and are not just yeah

like cheap when you get to the big zerg the big zerg is good i like i really like the big zerg absolutely yeah yeah yeah and that's pretty dimensional you get a lot of zerg is good i like i really like the big zerg absolutely yeah yeah yeah and that's pretty dimensional you get a lot of zergs here there's a zerg early on there's a zerg uh flying by in the background so if your desire is to see him which i do like him and i bought last time i was there i i bought a zerg uh for my kid who like one of the first things he ever said was just a was he's like a girl he points out he knows exactly what it is he's obsessed with it i was thinking about bringing it in to see if we could do anything uh with it or just to inspire us but i don't want to take it away from yeah he'd be upset if zerg was gone you did what with it

that is for me that is not content dad Dad. It's not content. You learned the word content. You have to. Podcaster's home. One Zurg piece of trivia involving the ride is I didn't realize that the ride in Florida was there before the movie. So actually, in 1998, Space Ranger Spin was the first place you could ever see Zurg, who was only spoken of in Toy Story 1. Wow. Sort of like Boba Fett in the holiday special.

Is that really? That was the first Boba Fett appearance? Yeah. Whoa, whoa. In an animated cartoon. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, right, right. Another great thing about the holiday special.

My favorite. That's right. My Star Wars. wars mike i have similar memories to you like this opened up it's kind of like a video game and like 1998 it was like oh this is so cool um uh and then a year later men in black opens up and i don't think i wrote it for like a couple years and it was instantly like i was like oh getting to hold the gun is much more preferable than like hunching over this mountain yeah canon thing and then when i came out here for the first time i was like oh the buzz lightyear has the gun

like the guns with the cable it's so much easier and the noises are more like appealing like more pleasant the no oh the i'm trying to look over the noises are they still unpleasant in the florida i they're not unpleasant i just think they're a nice kind of like little i've skipped florida buzz light year almost every time i've gone and i'm not sure i've ever done it i guess that backs up a lot worse i feel like yeah i have obviously done it when i was younger but that's okay next time that's an ugly exterior i do not like that exterior that is like just like a weird gacky frame it just looks like you know like paste on art for a kid's room yeah i don't really like that yeah yeah that spot i think it could all i think there is a way to aesthetically um i don't know improve plus up the this i like the i believe the shanghai one has screens and

it's weird to say screens is the remedy but i feel like there's something there's like something in digitizing or the way they've updated the fantasyland rides there's a way to get some you know just more subtlety and texture and depth that might be nice i don't i don't love toy story mania um i feel like you gotta you gotta do too much like i feel like shooting a gun is easier than like pulling this like rope like ball thing well it certainly hurts less yeah yeah absolutely less painful to do buzz maybe the true admission is i'm too out of shape to do Toy Story Mania. It's all wrist shape though. It's really like carpal tunnel causing

because we've talked about it before and I really like Midway Mania but I think everybody has a similar experience and by the end of that last bonus round

you are your wrist is throbbing. Let's go. They could take one screen out and I'd be like that was fine. It would be okay.

Oh you want one less round. Yeah one less round. Get me out and I'd be like, that was fine. Like it would be. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you want one less round? Yeah. One less round. Get me out of there. But like, cause I, I also didn't just feel like screen, like I went to universal in Halloween this past Halloween and I was there early so I could do some of the rides I hadn't seen in a long time. And I hadn't done the Harry Potter stuff and I was like, I'm going to

throw up. I was like, this, this feels so bad to me. Um, those are, yeah, that one's, that one's rough for sure. And then the, the,

um, the last one that I did was the transformers one. And I was like, I can't do any more of these today. This is like rattling my brain. I can't do it. Yeah. I'm,

I'm totally with you. I think I've, I've just started to like screens that amend others because sort of rise of the resistance is that you'd have to say there's a lot of screen elements but it's never fully scroll i guess at the end when you go into that pod but you know uh little screens all around or even the the jurassic world script like the screen section of that right i is fantastic. I wonder if we'll get a light year update for it. There are rumors. There's a discussion with Griffin.

Yeah, there are rumors. Are there legitimate rumors about this? Yeah, I don't know if they're so strong, but I've seen it speculated here and there. Because I wonder, I mean, it feels like they're really pushing this movie by saying that it's going to like, that it changed Andy's life.

That's a big, that's a, you know, we don't know what else has changed his life. Yeah. So I wonder if they're expecting this movie to do well. Because I also think this is going to be the first, the first Pixar movie in like two or three years that's like released in theaters. That's right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

That's kind of interesting. Yeah. They gave the animators of color a chance. Yes. And they dumped all their movies on the streaming service absolutely yeah but light year and light year the character who's been in nine movies already yeah yeah he's going theatrical looks like uh truly like what you picture when you picture like a white guy he's now he's now more of a generic white dude yeah yeah he has less specific than ever before i i i have a couple weird things

with this like the one is that like the face in this upcoming move like the face of the toy makes sense because toys are often caricatures of humans but then the face looks pretty similar in the light year one where it's supposed to be more realistic my other complaint is that i i just over the weekend i was like man there's a lot of people still talking about light year that must be out next week right and the answer was no uh six weeks like yeah five six more weeks there's more talk about light year than there was for this new fantastic beasts movie that i was shocked came out last week like yeah wow it did yeah geez got trounced by the bad guys yeah well there were some issues in terms of getting the cast to promote the film oh yeah we weren't as aware i think i now i remember that yeah i'm not so available to

promote okay got it now they could have got Mads out there. Everybody loves Mads. It's all on you now, Mads. Yeah, the fate of the franchise rests with you. Guy who's known for being a very personable, cool guy. Oh, that's good. Guy who's going to do a Broadway thing after

they're due to a $1 million movie after this. Yeah, a guy who doesn't look scary. We'll see. We got more weeks to ponder this. Yeah. See if we get more. I think.

It's after Dr. Strange. Right. Right. There's more promotion or more interviews about Lightyear. I think the way it goes now is that, because it still feels like they're not confident, because they're not doing Jungle Cruise 2 yet. No.

So it feels like that, like an overlay gets greenlit as soon as Jungle Cruise 2 or as soon as Lightyear 2 gets greenlit. I don't know, that could be wrong, but it feels like they need an extra bit of confidence that it worked. Yeah, they need to know that it's going to be sticking around for a 10th buzz light year uh yeah yeah exactly so then promotional tool tool for a future movie it's not just enough to have it in the park it'll be built into uh chris evans's contract that he's gonna have to record vo for the ride uh and that's you know that's already in there yeah they can lock that down now they're not losing these actors well the big rumor right now matt the um the tarzan tree house is closed

and refurbished and they're they've announced they're gonna re-theme it and they're i haven't seen encanto yet but there is a tree house in that movie yes i have not heard like the treehouse is vital to the plotted movie but there is a treehouse yes and that is an existing treehouse um does it seem like the best place to have like a hit movies ride like this very narrow 1950s pathway yeah that's not like ada like accessible in any sort of way no Okay, but hear me out here. Encanto, fine, but what if Lightyear had a treehouse and we could go in and visit that? That'd be good. Yeah.

I'd be interested. Buzz, Lightyear saw a movie about a guy who had a treehouse and that inspired him to explore the universe. To want to go get up high. I love being up in my tall tree, but what if I could go even higher than this? What? Where's higher than a tall tree, Buzz?

What are you talking about, doofus? Maybe up there. Maybe somewhere like infinity or even beyond. I want to know where the catchphrase came from. Well, you got to know where the catchphrase came from. We have to learn. Oh, I think that's all coming now. He either says the catchphrase or says half the catchphrase, gets it wrong, and then there's

like a they fly now kind of bit about it. Yeah. For sure. Somebody's going to say, that happened. You know, they got to have a moment like that in there. Want to try that one again? I think you need a punch up pass. Who says that?

I hope so i just i saw a tweet going around that i was so fascinated by uh which is that um we're coming up on the 10th anniversary of the release of the first avengers movie and early press screenings did not have the shawarma scene in it because it had not been filmed. It was filmed a year weeks before release. I believe it was filmed at the premiere. At the premiere for the junket? They got them all together for the junket

and then put them in costumes. It's either the junket or the premiere, but it might have been the premiere because that was the only time they were all together again. Whoa. Evans has a beard in that scene and he's that's why he's hot like he has his hand over his face yeah because he was shooting a different movie solution they should have done something cool like like mission possible fallout where he reloads his fists and his beard gets a little thicker in the movie does that

happen when he when he does the punch that i just saw this clip going around when he does the punch watch his beard it gets a little thicker it does i don't know this i think it's you see this i've seen it it's like uh it's it i don't know how or why it's yeah it's certainly not because he did it but like because uh but it's like some sort of editing like mistake that like they might maybe use two shots or something but it's a cool idea yeah pump your own beard up yeah like what is it no and then the implication of what does that do like you certainly have a little more testosterone you're probably a little stronger sure yeah i mean it is it's interesting in the in the story of like oh this is when you

see this it is guy gets a little more evil his beard gets thicker and his and that punch is iconic as you keep doing it describing the story i'm like i can picture it exactly yeah trailer and it's a great moment yeah it's really cool because then you just sort of know right away this guy's like really strong like like you only do that you're not gonna do that if you're like me it's not gonna communicate this right thing but if you're henry cavill and you're like jacked as shit you're like i better stay away from from this guy. This looks like a failed dance move. Otherwise, you're a normal person. Getting the water off your hands because there's no paper towel.

Yeah, the Dyson didn't recognize him. My arms are so thin the Dyson couldn't recognize them. It is a franchise. It's a franchise of cool movements. I mean, the first one where he drops into the room and holds steady. The second one, people might not think this is cool,

but where he gets the message through his Oakley sunglasses and throws them at the camera and they explode. All that like pointy running he does.

Oh, all the pointy running. Oh, yeah. That was the craziest running. When he breaks his leg. Oh, yeah. It's in there and they use it. I love them. They're simply the and they use it. I love them.

They're simply the greatest films ever made. I don't disagree. He's an absolute freak. He's like the greatest movie star of all time. The greatest movie star. I saw that anecdote

that, what's, is it Jake Johnson from New Girl and the new, when he did the mummy with him? Where he did the mummy and they jump off

a collapsing three-story building and Jake Johnson lands on his back. And he goes, oh, I'm hurt. And Tom Cruise goes, are you injured or are you hurt? And he says, what's the difference? He's like, well, injured means like something's broken. Can you go again?

He's like, yeah, I can get up and go again. He's like, okay, then you're hurt. Oh, my God. He's like, of course you're hurt. You fell off a three-story building. What a normal man look i look i'm gonna cut it off here because i have three tom cruise stories that i've seen on talk shows that i want to talk about but we're no that's not what this is about

i just want to cut it off here because there's no theme park presence you have nowhere to put that's absolutely shocking to me well they they they bungled the mummy, didn't they? We could have got a new mummy overlay at Universal. Yes, I know. Yeah. And Mission Impossible, because Tom is just, oh, I'm talking about him again. He just apparently squashed the idea of doing Mission Impossible streaming show, which good, I say.

Make it special. Keep it special. We don't need that on TV. But come on, Tom. Where's the Mission Impossible ride? Where is it? Make it the best ride of all time. Put it at Six Flags or something.

Yes. It's just a Riddler repainted or whatever. Mission Impossible ride. Go. But how do you get a ride to Tom Cruise standards? Does it have to push us to the brink? Yeah. We're hurt but not injured.

It has to be built into the ride that like you might die for real well you sign you are doing this yeah it's you sign it's not some like bland legal entity that you're signing for it's a like a paper that he wrote yeah or you watch a video where he's addressing you and he's like staring your eyes and like i feel like if time cruise is in his room right now and he stared in our eyes and told us to do something we'd all do it no matter what it was a hundred percent because he has that he has that power a hundred percent he would because he makes he's like one of those like politician guys who like he's looking at you and you're like this guy is in love with me and i will do whatever he says he activates your venturian mode yeah all i would want to do is make him laugh and i know i

couldn't no no I couldn't. No, yeah. I know I couldn't get him to cry. But also, I don't know what he thinks is funny. There's no way he thinks anything normal is funny. Well, he jumped,

I bet he, like there's a clip where he like jumps over Keegan-Michael Key. That's a deep fake. Oh, that was a deep fake. Is that a deep fake? Yeah.

You got fooled, my friend. I got fooled. I thought it was real. But that does seem like something he would think is funny. Like doing a giant leap If he saw that, he'd probably be like,

yeah, he'd love it. We're talking about tom cruise again back to the podcast yeah well let's talk about why don't we talk about the star of this ride not tim allen but pat fraley yeah it was fake buzz light we've talked about fake woody Jim Hanks. We haven't given due to fake Buzz Lightyear, Pat Fraley. Pat Fraley is a Ninja Turtles voice, correct? Yes. He is Krang. He is Krang on the original Ninja Turtles. Yes.

So major credit from that and like 8 billion other shows. Yeah. But usually if you see- Can I try my Krang real quick? Oh, of course. Trader. Trader. What is Trader? That's all I got. Tom Cruise. Can I try my Krang real quick? Oh, of course. Shredder! Shredder! What is Shredder?

That's all I got. Tom Cruise. I want you to know I don't laugh very often, but what I'm about to produce... And that's as much as he goes, but you did make him laugh. I love Shredder. I absolutely loved your Krang.

Do you understand? Oh, it's all I could dream of. To Vienna. We have a safe cracker roll. It's only one scene. But if you can do your cring voice. That's how he casts his movies. He sees somebody do one thing that he likes

and he's like, all right, you're in. That's it. You're done. It works. There's a lot of henchmen. Like there's a lot of guys. Yeah. You know?

And then he, okay, okay I'm gonna tell the story he was on the talk show he was on Graham Norton with Rebecca Ferguson and she said the first time that she did a stunt where they went down

a building or whatever it was like a scary thing because it was so high up and then they landed and he looked at her and he went welcome to mission oh my god

and he was on the show too and he claims he didn't do that but she goes yes you did say that to me after the stunt was over. He probably was so mad. Yeah. Yeah.

Of course. Do you think you could tell if we put a mission style clock on it, could you tell both stories? The other two stories? How much time does he have? How much time does the fuse take? No, I don't,

I don't want to, that's too much pressure. Honestly, that's more pressure than on. That was the anecdote. I have the clearest in my mind. If you get up the gumption to do another one. That's so funny. All right, let me think.

I was going to say, I like the... I think one of my favorite gift shops in the park is the one that's outside of Buzz. Uh-huh. It's like a sort of... I don't remember either, but I feel like it's like a good... I like the theming in there, because it's like it's sort of it's called i i don't remember either but i feel like it's like a good i like the theming in there because it's it's consistent with the ride so it's very like um it's very buzz light it's like very uh like green and purple and blue in there and uh i don't

know i just i like it in there kid friendly yeah Pixar stuff yeah um like sometimes yeah there i know there are cars you can buy cars merch there a lot too yeah pins a lot of pin racks i feel like i used to be so interested in the pins i and now i'm just like i mean i they're the same that like they're like funko pops now too right or they're they're sort of similar in that way um in in in popularity i think but i don't know if pins, I guess, reached further than Disneyland. We'll talk about pins so seldom on the show. We're not pin guys. No? By you being ever a pin guy,

I guess that makes you the biggest pin guy in the room. I think, I mean, I say that, and I probably had 10 pins. Sure. That's like as many as I had. I had a pin phase. I had a pin phase. I had a few dozen pins.

And now they're like... Through houses. You win the pin wars? Yeah, I was in the pin wars. I had a pin face. I have a few dozen pins. And now they're like... Through houses. You win the pin wars. Yeah, I was in the pin wars. I feel like now when I see them, it's not as big of a deal like at the parks. I feel like now it's sort of like these people are off to the side,

whereas it was more of an, like not an advertised thing, but it was more an out and proud sort of thing in the park. And now I feel like I see people with their like little felt background or something with uh with the pins in it the book sometimes yeah and like a flashlight like they're doing it under cover of darkness now yeah what's the thing yeah i've seen these like little shit where it almost feels like a street performer who's set up where it feels like is this this can't be or they're like on canal street or something in new york like it's

like a very like we're like hey we got pins we got pins over here you want some pins yeah they they encouraged pin trade i mean they've always called it pin trading yeah the little felt boards that the cast members have at some spot like that's the official like park one but then what's happened this happened with lightsabers recently there was a big there's lightsaber meet meet up sometimes at galaxy's edge uh where it's like people organize them this themselves so like pin traders i feel like just an earlier version of that where they yeah sorry oh i was gonna say they just set up at that that tomorrow land terrace and then they got the books and the binders and stuff i think this is what you're saying man and i agree sometimes it feels like you turn a corner and it's's almost as if you caught two people kissing or something,

where you're like, oh, I don't need to see this. Excuse me. No, I didn't. I'm not here for that. I'm not involved in your trading. Go ahead, please. Please, don't mind me. I will say my favorite pin, an Emperor Kuzco pin.

Very nice. Oh, cool. And you still have it. I still have it, and it's pre-transformation. So it's him as the guy. And I always really loved that movie. I remember this, and I guess I don't. I'm remembering that the one time we talked about pins is that Jason said you could buy the pins.

This is not how I'm selling you out. This is a whole thing. Jason talked about how you could buy the pins on Amazon, and apparently those are knockoff pins. Scrapper pins. Yeah. I saw multiple blogs recommend this as like, hey, families, if you want to go and do pin trading with camp members, you can just buy bulk things of pins and then you trade them. And there's as many like family blogs or message boards as it's all doing this.

There's the counterpoint where people are like, you're putting false pins in the ecosystem yes yeah you're circulating scrapper pin and so jason is a purveyor of false pins i didn't like to trade trading even as a kid like even at the height of marvel trading like i felt so anxious trading yeah like this is mine well start with a stranger yeah yeah i gotta talk to you yeah yeah and like i don't really know yeah as a child you don't know the i mean you kind of know the value but yeah yeah so i i i don't know so i would buy them i think once or twice i trade it with cast members but like now it's fun like fully

crying yeah i'm sorry but well now he does all the fake ones so he's oh yeah yeah these are scrappers get it you're banned for life bite them to see if they're so thin i don't know if they are supposed to break or not yeah yeah yeah honestly if you bite them but i i think right around the same time as fast pet like the official disney pin trading marketing and logos came right around my memory is like the very late 90s like it was a millennial thing you got like they had like the lanyard that you can put pins on and stuff and then you can be like oh like yeah cool too slick now too expensive yeah i say yeah um can we talk about the like the game itself the buzz lightyear game yes stuff the stuff i didn't even know until looking for this yeah yeah i didn't know much in the way of secrets like just really how you do it right right i was gonna say

like just the just the basics of like what do the different um shape targets uh mean as far as points like i didn't even really know this. I knew instinctually I knew what was right and I knew it was lit up. It was more, but just to see it, like circle is a hundred, square is a thousand, diamond is 5,000, triangle is 10,000. And then if they're lit up,

they're worth 10 times that amount. Yeah, you can go, you can get, there's more and obviously there are more circles because they don't want you to be uh getting uh you know a million points in the first one minute the first minute of the ride we're not made of points we can't just give them away could you imagine what would happen if we just gave away all the points at the start of the ride disneyland and go bankrupt you'd have to add another nine we have to slightly expand the lcd i wonder what the highest documented score is and that's maybe

only interesting to the four of us but that's okay well i'm sure there's people i'm sure we're really proud of it who lorded over people that they got it i think that so it maxes out when it's all nines on your board so that's like that's 999 999 yeah uh but i think if you go do that email you can see the full score which is higher so you can see a score that is uh up in the millions range i'm not sure what i think maybe a nine million is possible i don't really know offhand yeah i don't know how far you can go in the like off the books score honestly i didn't really know like the glowing meant more points i knew the shapes meant different points i kind of knew they were hidden yeah what like the chest plate of the zerg there's a hidden one yes i didn't know that why

does everyone know this do you have to have looked this up i just want some videos today that's how i yeah i didn't know it was like a thing that i had heard like in the park like a friend of mine uh was a big disney parks uh like fan and i think maybe she told me um but you know that's probably she looked it up so it's between he's got big chest plates and if you aim between it's unmarked it doesn't have a big z but that's the that's the big and i don't think it lights up either so you would never know no and i think like one or two of the circles are secret like 50 000 ones yeah i don't really advertise that there's other stuff that i i i knew like never stop firing like if you hit a target you can just keep hitting the target yes i I only saw this one place mention the better luck next time score, where every five shots, if you don't hit something, you get points.

And the other thing I said. Yeah. It's like sympathy points because you aren't getting anything. That's nice. And so that adds to the never stop firing. And Matt, what you were saying about riding alone. Yeah. I had never seen this advice.

You can probably get more points if you sit on the leftmost one and then take the other one and put it on the seat because at a certain point, it's just going to start firing. Oh, wow. So to cut down on confusion of the little dots, which it seems like-

Because you can see sort of your target a little bit, like what it's lining up as if he has scope or something. Now this, I have a lot of, I would say that I'm not great at this. Some of which is, okay, so it is the green, it's like it is the green like sight at the top is what you're going off of. Right? Not the little green circle in the back. I just, if I'm trying to visualize it, I'm screwing up. Oh, yeah, you're thinking too much, I think.

You're thinking too much. Yeah, because you have to see, like, that little red thing that's going. Yeah. And you eventually just, yeah, you're only, I'm just doing it on instinct, where it's like I'm realizing, because I can't even explain to you what I'm doing. It's not visual, really, except for the red. You're obviously aiming, yeah, at the thing, but, like, except for the red. You're obviously aiming at the thing, but it takes me a couple,

I feel like it maybe even takes me 30 seconds to lock back into it, because it's not something that feels so direct as far as being able to perfectly aim. I think as soon as the gun activates, start shooting the wall close to you, and then you can see how much it's wavering left or right or up or down. And then you can course correct that's my

trick uh-huh i'm just get a few off mine's just pure i just i turned feral and i yeah i sort of have like a max pain like bullet time sort of yeah it slows down yeah then you're you put sunglasses on my favorite is the one that's not lit up in the dark hallway. That's a good one. Cause it makes you go big. Yeah. Cause if you don't know, yeah,

that's it's all of a sudden illuminates the dark hallway. If you start hitting it and especially if you, I think I got stuck there once, which is the biggest thrill. Yeah. It's so direct and very close. Yeah. You're so close to it.

There are a few too. I feel like there's one on the ceiling in there also. I think. Yeah. I'm trying to remember in that hallway yeah i think so there might be one on each side and then on the ceiling yeah one for everybody the best one i just learned about is when you get to the big zerg at the end swing the car to the opposite wall and you're really close to like a toy box thing uh-huh shoot get the toy box target that activates a triangle that is so close to you and you would just oh wow i usually never see it if you were everyone is facing the giant animatronic yeah but there's a secret if you

face the other a last dash for like yeah whatever it is like 10 000 points or something yes um it's it is i yeah it doesn't hurt which is good because i don't leave it being hurt yeah but but it does it is like a totally different your brain is in a different spot yeah than a normal ride and you're like you're kind of in there for a while i feel like too like i don't feel like it's a very short ride it feels like it's a long time would you have the time of it uh four to five minutes is what uh wow yeah it's kept coming across yeah it feels like you're in there for 10 or something yeah time these time slows down yeah it's bullet time it's bullet time so you don't even know what what the actual real time is you're busy um yeah the shanghai one it seems like a lot of the

complaints or criticisms we have they solved in shanghai where it's like a lot of the complaints or criticisms we have they solved in shanghai where it's like a mix of practical sets and screens enhancing it a lot of screen enhancement stuff in avatar yeah okay and that works really well yeah i'm all in i yeah and i don't know what it is i'm just i'm ready i'm ready i'm ready for more of it i'm great it sounds good but i kind of want it to look worse just like make it look worse because i don't need it i'm great it sounds good but i kind of want it to look worse just like make it look worse because i don't need it i'm just wanting to win i was gonna say i would like it i would like it to be flatter yes yes wow this is the vote so what does that mean you do you take things out yes less stuff take the zerg out at the end take uh make just put up a painted flat yeah cardboard

how do you feel because like again the, again, the targets are screens. So I don't think you have to hit a precise infrared dot anymore. So it's a wide-angle screen. That's a lot of screens. And it makes the screen. No, too easy. That's too easy. Yeah.

I like having to hit that perfect target. That's beginner mode. Yeah. That's like the Cardinal game we were talking about earlier. Yeah. You got to hit that main circle in the middle. I was just thinking the snow white ride has uh some screen enhancements now yeah i guess if it went that way i wouldn't be

so mad at today they did a nice job with that right i think subtle yeah yeah i really like it yeah um so yeah i just think you know um even more basic the children should draw the characters and they should use those flats for the ride because again i do not care when i'm competing yeah it's i don't know there is something the competition element of it because you can't compete on any other rides like not really right yeah midway mania and is there another one at disney uh the cars ride like it's sort of a race but you're not really yeah you're not doing anything. Web Slingers, yeah. I haven't done that yet. I've been back once during the pandemic,

but I haven't gotten to California Adventure yet. Well, if you want exhaustion... If you thought Toy Story Mania was exhausting... I gotta go out there and do flips? It feels close to that. It is, because you're just like... Both wrists.

You're full arms. I haven Letting the arms. Well, hurt. Your full arms. I'm out. Unless you're. Yeah. I haven't felt the rush to go to the Avengers campus yet. I was more excited to go to the. The campus.

The couch's edge. Yeah. Yeah. The ride itself is fine. Yeah. But the campus is good. I think we like it more as we go. I heard the food is good.

Food and drink is good. Yeah. Yeah. They're really filling it out. Kind of the promises they made with galaxy's edge of like and there'll be characters and updated stuff yeah haven't so much paid off as much as they have at avengers campus they've done a much better job well isn't it just so weird though because like you can do that at the uh at the avengers campus because it's not themed to a certain location in time right yes it's like yes uh

whereas like the galaxy's edge is with jakku uh after this movie or whatever well in between two movies yeah it's like there's a one it's one day and it's gonna be stuck on this one day in between eight and nine yeah forever but they establish all the Marvel campuses that are going up at a bunch of the parks. That is not the Marvel Cinematic Universe. It's the Marvel Theme Park Universe. And that's why everyone is still alive. Yes. Oh, okay. I see. Why couldn't they have done some

made-up crap like that? I think they could still do it if they wanted. All they have to do is change the story. They could keep it Jakku or whatever and just have it be like... It's like a force. The force...

It's the force. There's crystals. There's magic. There's time. Somehow Palpatine has returned. Some of those outstanding universe things have to have time travel. Just say the dead speak as you walk in. The dead speak. Okay, all the old characters. One blue milk, please.

There's a rumor. Oh, I don't even. Spoiler alert. Maybe. I'm so sorry, but I'm so excited by this rumor. So, yeah. Okay. Give me 30 seconds ahead if you don't want to know this about maybe the Obi-Wan show.

People are acting like maybe Dexter Jetser is coming back in Disney Plus' Obi-Wan. That's what that was for. And I'm so excited about the idea. I'd be interested in seeing him again. I've been playing Lego Star Wars. And he has a fun little sequence in the game. He's great. Okay.

What would you like to see him cooking up? What kind of stains do you want on his apron? Well, I want him to yell at someone for smoking a death stick in the diner. Yeah. And I want him to... I'm trying to think. What's the iguana that Obi-Wan rides in... Is it Attack of the Clones?

I think so, yeah. Yeah, I think it is. Yeah. So whatever that is, I want him to cook that thing's eggs. Yeah. Giant eggs. In the... Yeah, it is an attack of the clones

it's in the end sequence right before uh jango fett is murdered by mace windu right uh uh boga yeah okay so boga eggs is what i want a very fun memory of that movie of like one of my this is a dorkiest fucking thing one of my friends had just gotten their license. And it was a Friday afternoon. And they're like, hey, we should go see that new Star Wars. And it's like, yeah. There's a 3 o'clock showing at the mall, like next to the mall. It's like, let's go. And we all just got in the car and drove over, bought tickets, went inside, and sat down.

It used to be that easy. Wait, the story is you went to see a movie but it was the first feeling of like wow someone has their drivers we can just go do this this is a thing we can free them up anybody no drop offs yeah okay and then three days later my family wants it's and i saw it again yeah and i was like i don't want to spoil it but at the very end something cool happened. Yeah. This was before the financial crash and before the Trump administration. So this was, you add all that to it, and this is Jason's peak.

Oh, yeah. This is, yeah. Never got any better than that. I mean, well, no, it was an exciting summer. Shrek came out right after. Oh, man. Moulin Rouge came out after. Wait, is that right? Wait a minute.

Am I getting the timeline wrong? I thought it was 2002, right? Oh, okay. Well, maybe. right after oh man rouge came out yeah wait is that right wait a minute i thought am i getting the time 2002 right oh okay well maybe yeah no that makes more sense okay so that was the previous summer there was all that was before 9-11 so it's even better is a bit that was the greatest so when when they say that this is like that the light year movie is andy star wars they could be talking about anything like it doesn't necessarily have to be like good star wars yeah his life in a bad way yeah it's like he saw evolution and he's like that is we not gotten to that we enjoy we've uh not feeling good at this i'll try some of these tips next time i will good tips the claw gag at the end of astro blasters where they've got zerg in the box the toy box and they're like dangling it that's all the little

green men that's pretty good um you know what i think we haven't really talked it doesn't get enough credit is the buzz animatronic in the queue yes yes it's like a low-key really good addition to a queue of any queue but like it's sort of you don't think about about it when you're thinking of like the famous classic good robots in the queues when it's been kind of exceeded a little bit and the technology has, but the first appearance of it was really how does this work? Where is that projector? Well, assuming you figure out it's a projection, but really

the first time you see it, I don't know what I'm looking. I don't know how he's moving this much and the head is following. I guess it's a little projector inside and the only thing in the projection is just is the face and uh i don't know it's so it's so well you can look up on youtube just the raw video yeah it looks worse now i remember being like why does this look so bad uh i remember it

being like he's here like uh but maybe that's like where they could put a new screen yeah it's just like update the with the chris uh the chris evans uh buzz oh sure yeah easy to slide that new face in there yeah yeah oh there was a thing i was gonna say about pat fraley about fake buzz light your voice which is he he had been doing he now doesn't do anything new as buzz i'm not sure why or they try to make it maybe somewhere in this confusion of now it's chris not sure why or they try to make it maybe somewhere in this confusion of now it's chris evans or they they try to make uh tim and tom do more but at the height when he was doing a lot of buzz lightyear at some point he was talking to disney people and he said you know i've i've never met tim i've never met tim allen i feel like I'd like to. It'd be fun to meet that guy. I'm really so scared. Yeah, yeah.

Well, and Disney said, we don't think that's a good idea. And he was like, why? What would be wrong with meeting Tim Allen? And they said, well, he's been around. He's been stomping around before asking why his brother isn't the voice of Buzz Lightyear. Because Tom Hanks, his brother, is always Woody. So Tim is like, why don't I get get that why doesn't my brother get that deal but as far as i know i think he's got a few brothers and i don't believe they are actors so why does a brother automatically regardless of with it with

zero interest in uh in acting potentially yeah this is, I have a story that I can't say it now, but I'll tell you a story after. I think we stopped there. All right. It's your After Dark. That's great. Yeah, I don't know.

Look, if Tim wants to put his brother's auditions, I'd love to. We could all rally behind them if they can do the voice too at this point. I don't know. All I'm hearing here

is that this is a man who loves his brother and wants him to have work. That's so nice, you know? Yeah. But obviously, if you did Krang's voice, I think you should get any job you're up for. Well, yeah, yeah. Perhaps a little more qualified.

They auditioned the brother, but he swore too much in the first five words. All right. You know what? Just have fun with it. Make it your own. I'm fucking Buzz Lightyear. I'm fucking Buzz Lightyear. Listen up, little bitches.

I'm going in there. I don't know if they'll like it, but they'll remember me. Kid's got to learn swearing sometime. He's got to learn it. If a voice you need, a brother. Damn it. I had a bride. Oh, well, I got to know.

If a voice you need. I like where that was going. A brother's. Brother of a brother. A brother is the choice. I had it. I like where that was going. Of brothers. Brother. Of a brother. A brother is the choice. Fuck, I had it. I lost it. If you have a voice you need, a brother take heed.

A brother take heed. That's as close as I can come. Anyway. There's brothers indeed. He's more loyal to his brother than he is to all his Coke buddies. Customers? Yeah. Maybe my brother he meant oh wait

oh that's right oh yes he's right i forgot that story um the voice of zerg and space ranger spin in florida is frank welker oh yes oh and uh the voice in astro Blasters is director Andrew Stamm. So the guy who yelled action on every day on John Carter was also that same voice. Which is on Disney Plus. I don't know. I think it is. But Buzz Lightyear, Star Command, no, no. They should. They should.

Just do it. I think it's been enough time we can reboot uh uh john carter i think it's time they're gonna keep trying everything you would think yeah yeah yeah like soon you tailor another shot it might be cheap i mean netflix had a bunch of roll doll stuff they bought like a huge roll doll licensing and i oh in their current troubles I believe has all been paused or canceled Bright 2 has been

effectively canceled like everything's crazy how are we even getting through this record knowing there's no Bright 2 Star Wars changed my life

that's the John Carter is on Disney Plus wow wow and Gods of Egypt is on Tubi. Because I got recommended it in my weekly Tubi update email.

One of my favorite marketing emails to get. Jason's picks of the week. Gods of Egypt and Gun Guys. What was the movie? What was the 1950? Gun Crazy. Gun Crazy. I have not seen all of Gods of Egypt.

I did bookmark it to watch. Gun Crazy is such a good name for a movie. Like that's, I think that, no, no, it's a perfect title. gun crazy i actually have not seen all of god's regions i did bookmark it to watch gun crazy is such a good name for a movie like that's i think that no no it's a perfect title yeah that's your that's how netflix turns it around yeah yeah crazy is back i'm listening it was in i think restored like in the 2000s it was in one of those sets like the dvd sets were all the rage okay warner brothers crime you know what did they did like i mean is like the newvd sets were all the rage okay yeah warner brothers crime you know what if they did like i mean is like the new release of it like lovingly like remastered like uh like the jaws blu-ray like uh when i feel like when jaws first came to blu-ray they were making such a big

deal about it because like steven spielberg like got his hands in there and like remade like helped like remastered it and it looked like a like I mean for my money it looked like a brand new movie I was like this looks crazy that this like old movie looks this nice did they give the same treatment to gun crazy I mean they have it has gotten some restoration but yeah I'd love a poor take

gun crazy we're gonna make everyone's eyes we're gonna make them more bloodshot to make them look more gun crazy get some smoke coming out of their ears yeah it's just constant spirals yeah we gotta make sure they really going like this are these guys gun crazy or what you never know with those blu-ray i mean i think the godfather ones are pretty well received but i think there's some kubrick blu-rays where they're like oh no they made this worse i just heard heard that on the Back to the Future 4K,

you can see bad makeup that you wouldn't have normally seen in a cut, and it looks worse. Sure. There's a shot somewhere in one of them where a DeLorean flies away, and you can see a black box around it. I don't know if they just weren't,

the monitors or something was wrong with my monitor. I'm not sure, but watch out for that black box around it like they like i don't know if what if they just weren't the monitors were something wrong was wrong with my monitor i'm not sure watch out for that black box star trek yeah when they do up res all those star trek shows it's like all the alien makeup yeah they didn't hold up this wasn't supposed to be nice yeah this is on tv although the star trek motion picture they just did the same thing where they have a new version that looks amazing wow it's on hbo max and there's a lot of like i get a lot of like epcot vibes from this movie just a lot of like aesthetically pleasing yeah like aesthetically like smooth surf space surfaces and it's still a pretty boring movie but that's why it's still like early epcot yes exactly i have no memories of epcot and I know that I've been there.

But I just have, like, gun to my head, I couldn't tell you a single thing that I did when I was there. Wow, wow. You didn't try sodas from around the world? That sounds like something I would have been interested in, because I loved soda. But I couldn't tell you if I actually did it or not. Do you remember rows and rows of Genesis game demos?

That feels like that's what you would have remembered maybe that's not that's not ringing a bell either i know i spent i spent a whole day there too and i couldn't tell you a damn thing huh what year this was probably uh let's see 9-11 had happened so it was certainly 2002 okay you least. Oh, they might have packed up the video games at that point. The video games might have been gone. Yeah, yeah. But the soda was there. Okay. Well, now I'm upset that I missed it.

Maybe I missed out on the soda, but maybe I didn't. I don't know. I don't know. Go see. Go ride the Mighty Acron in Pandora. The soda's still there. The soda's... Okay, so I haven't missed my shot completely with the soda.

No, you can still get the sodas. The sodas. So, Pandora is at Epcot? No. No, it's Animal Kingdom. Okay, so I haven't missed my shot completely with the soda. No, you can still get the sodas. So Pandora is at Epcot? No, it's Animal Kingdom. You've got to buy a ticket for Pandora, and you've got to buy a ticket for the sodas. Okay, okay. You know what? I mean, I'll do it, is the thing.

I am interested in seeing both. I can't think of anything else to recommend but the soda. Just do the sodas and then go. I guess they aren't free at that point, because you're paying that ticket price but at a certain point they're paying for themselves yeah if you have you can make it if you refill 90 times or so then you refund i think about cutting the cost out from like traveling to a different country to get this soda oh yeah you know then i'm saying you're making money you're making a lot of fucking

rubes hope they don't hear this. We should figure out. We should do an episode on like, here's how you can actually make money. Well, you should just go start scheming on that and bring us your findings. Yeah, I'll take a look at the spreadsheet. Get your shock board out and your red lines. The toppings bar returned and your lunch is now free.

That is a good, you really should. But for now, final thoughts on Astro Blasters, or whatever we're calling it. Is there anything, talking about some secrets and stuff, is there any way you're going to approach this differently when you go back? Anything you're going to stop and appreciate more, or try harder on? anything you're gonna stop and appreciate more or uh i'm definitely i'm definitely gonna uh freaking

uh like whip whip my my little cart around to go uh right after zerg to get that triangle i'm not missing that ever again you won't ever catch me missing that um but as far i mean i don't know it's i i just like to get in there it's like like a sort of nostalgic ride because I remember when it was new. Yeah. And it's old now, I guess, right? When did it open? It opened... 2005.

So for the 50th, for the Disneyland. Okay. Yeah, Disney World was earlier. Yeah, Disney World was 1998. Tokyo was 2004. So I think they just cloned tokyo they probably were like working on those both at the same time i'd hate to see it go i don't want ever uh i don't want it to ever leave uh tomorrowland i maybe we've talked about this before did i i don't know if we talked about

this last time we talked about knott's berry farm but i feel like tomorrowland as a as a land is struggling um well we'll look where it's usually what we're talking yeah you woke us up in the middle of the night yeah we'd start talking because like i mean this is not a new observation of course but like the promise of tomorrow land is that's showing you tomorrow but now everything in there is kind of old and uh we've sort of passed some of that so i i don't know what to do i don't know what to do with the land but i whatever you do leave buzz leave buzz where he is maybe update it with the new hunky buzz uh but they're kind of stuck because like yeah the land itself we've been saying for over a decade now like the land itself needs some work but like very popular rides in space mountains

star tours buzz lightyear yes very popular and i just don't know if there's like i mean this is me not being plugged into like uh like modern art or like uh like design in any sort of way but i don't know if there's like a futurism like uh movement like there was like when they came up with tomorrowland i don't know if people are right now looking at what like 22 22 is looking like or something, you know? Yeah. That's some of the,

yeah. Cause there was, there was so much futurism in the fifties and say every time they did a new, I'm thinking go back, like go like retro futurism with it or something and like make it like 1950, like what the Jetsons looked like or something and make it old looking,

but new. Well, when they found solutions, the solutions have been akin to that. and then the tron ride do you know about the tron ride yes i want to get on that disney world where's that one well it'll be in disney world soon okay so another reason to head down that seems like that's well i'll honestly like plan a trip around that because that when i saw that ride in the imagineering thing i was like i that looks that was great it looks so cool and that feels like future that actually it's not there it's it's 80s infused but not fully retro future who's got ratatouille the ride uh okay okay man i'm going

to florida baby you gotta let's open up it's queue. I got to get this Ratatouille ride. Yeah, there's a Guardians coaster opening up now. And, oh, but Hong Kong gets the Ant-Man and the Wasp? Hong Kong is what has, yeah, they took,

they're the only place that has taken Buzz out. Wow. And it looks kind of, like, fine, right? Yeah. It's kind of a lateral move. Yeah, pretty much.

Yeah, yeah. Sure. You have to keep her as the wasp then they can't uh oh evangeline lilly yeah yeah i i heard um you know as they expanded more and more in the asia parks and the movies got more and more popular there uh some stuff that they have chosen it's like you know iron man uh darth vader is very popular like iron man ant-man wasped they all have helmets on so anyone could be behind oh yeah oh yeah yeah uh-huh so that's uh so that's good then that's well that's i think like why they why they settled on those

characters that makes sense yeah for those parks uh i don't i'm sure a lot of sound-alikes i don't know is it downy is it downy in the iron man thing no that has never been done but it's the for those parks. I'm sure a lot of sound-alikes. I don't know. Is it Downey? Is it Downey in the Iron Man thing? No, it's never been Downey. He's the only one who escapes the contracts. Yeah, exactly. And the franchise in general.

Yeah, yeah. For now. Paul Rudd is in the ride, though. Paul Rudd and Evangeline Liv. They did all the voices for it. I believe that. They were there, I think. They made him go.

Yeah, they were at the opening. She can't go back. She gotta get that shot she gotta get yeah she couldn't come back either as a thing she's kind of uh she's like at a terminal yeah yeah she's a real victor in between she's just there in the terminal clapping because she heard if she could go on the plate, she wouldn't have to wear the mask. Well, excellent. Matt, thank you for joining us. I'll give you the high score of Galactic Hero.

Thank God. You ranked Galactic Hero, and you survived Podcast the Ride. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks so much for being here, IRL. Let's exit through the gift shop. Is there anything you'd like to plug? Yeah. Check out Get Played. being here uh irl let's exit through the gift shop is there anything you'd like to plug uh yeah check out uh get played um this is a show that i'm on with uh nick weiger and heather ann campbell

we talked about video games um is this coming out in may no i think it's out this week okay i believe well then for all of may just coming up uh we're we're calling it pokey may and it's going to be pokemon stuff all month long so So look forward to that. Oh, great. Oh, that's a great month. You know what we didn't talk about is there was a video game you could play and still can if you download an EXE file.

Because the old pictures you used to get said Disneyland.com slash buzz. Yes. So if you go to the archives at Disneyland. You won't do it now, but if you go to the archives disneyland.edu they won't you won't do it now but if you go to webarchive.org download the old you can play a weird janky uh buzz light year after blaster game i'm remembering trying to do that and just being like come on i'm alive would i have a life to live they said there was a very limited window of time where they're like, and it's going to affect the ride in the park.

And it's like, how long did that last? Yeah. If ever. And like in how? In how, yeah. How would anyone know if you were on one side of the other? It must have been someone at home.

The thing moved slightly. That comet rotated five degrees to the left. We've been compromised. Two other oddball like video game things it's a the game shows up in kingdom hearts 3 the buzz light your eye shows up in kingdom hearts yes and then the in disney quest if you recall there was a bumper car cannon kind of attraction that was also called buzz light your Astro Blasters. Wait, but even slightly different. It was singular. Buzz Light, no, it was Buzz Lightyear. Okay, Buzz Lightyear's Astro Blaster.

You're, yes. Possessive and singular. What, why? If you're in a tank, it's Astro Blaster. But there's multiple people, right? Yes. Aren't they all Astro Blasters? No, this one's referring to the gun.

The gun is the blaster, and that's the reason for the title. Maybe entertainment was better when everything did not have a Bible. Like everything did not have a series Bible or a canon Bible. Yeah. Hey, look, I love the sloppiness.

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