Podcast: The Ride - Canada's Wonderland with Trevor Zammit

Episode Date: June 9, 2023

Trevor Zammit (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Brand Manager, NECA Toys) joins us to discuss growing up at Canada's Wonderland, backstage treats, and licensing the likenesses of long dead actors. Watch This Episode: https://youtu.be/UGakUI_JvII Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

FOREVER! DOG! Samet from Mecha Toys talks all things Turtle and growing up at Canada's Wonderland on Podcast the Ride, a theme park podcast hosted by three men who would have had a better time at their high school prom if they were dressed and styled by a group of adorable woodland creatures. My name is Mike Carlson. Joining me as always, Scott Gairdner. Yeah, I mean, in what, I think if woodland creatures are doing anything to help you, it's better. I think that's a plus up for any of like. You mean like if you're cleaning out your car, if there's a bird that comes by and like picks up some trash with its beak. Yeah, absolutely. Bring a little magic into the process. I don't want to put animals to work doing anything gross, but if they could just be part of the basic bathroom process as well.

It's not like a full Flintstones where the animals are being put to work. They're sort of just helping because they're friends. Yeah, I think so. And to like add a little, because they're friends with me and us. So the bird would say something, it would look at the camera and say, it's not a living. I'm just doing it for fun. Yeah, it's not a living.

I'm not getting paid for this. Therefore, it's not a live i'm not getting not a living i'm not getting paid for this therefore it's not living right jason sheridan is also here too uh yeah i have to think the woodland creatures would have better taste than like whatever uh suburban philadelphia comfort bun you wore for prom yeah the tuxedo rental it's a it's like a fashion forward sparrow or something. Yeah. Yeah. He's getting you the shawl collar, the kind of rounded lapels, you know, just for a little zhuzh it up, you know? Well, styling too.

Yeah. Who wears, is there a, can you give me an example of somebody who wears what you're talking about? You see it on red carpets and stuff. It's just as opposed to like peaks as opposed to point it like uh oh it's like a more of a rounded it's more of a rounded it's sort of what big bird wears but he only wears that like dicky part of it is that what you're talking about yeah i think that's right okay i don't know what you're talking about because i've never worn a tuxedo in my life

i'm really really never have i'm going to a wedding later this year where it will require me to wear one for the first time. So your terminology is going over. I'll hopefully be a tux expert by the time this wedding rolls around. You go to any Friar Tux location here in the San Fernando Valley and they'll take care of you. Okay. I'm chasing. I had a very nice experience there a number of years ago. Have I said on the show there's a prominent star of an indie movie from the 90s who works at a suit store around here?

I don't want to say who it is, but I'll say off mic. Is it a clerk or a mall rat? No. Okay. That pause made me think that maybe it was. I don't think it was. I nailed it. He's not. I know who it is. Went right at the target. I know this cast. I shouldn made me think that maybe it was. I don't think it was. I nailed it. I went right at the target.

I know this cast. I shouldn't have thought that long, but I just wanted to make sure. I know Clerks and Mallrats cast. Not even a peripheral Mallrat. I don't think so. But possibly a Mallrat? I don't think so. I would bet most money.

Let's bring our guest on, see if he has any thoughts about tuxedos. He is the brand manager Of Nekotoy's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle Action figure line This is Trevor Zamet, ladies and gentlemen Welcome to the podcast Hi Trevor Thanks for having me

Tuxedos, just in general We have so much to talk about, but for some reason we're stuck in tuxedo line right now How do you feel about Formal wear You know, they're great on like penguins You know, it was always cute when the Muppets reason we're stuck in tuxedo right now yeah as well how do you feel about formal wear you know they're great on like uh penguins you know it was always cute when the muppets would wear their tuxedos like they're well of course putting in you know making an effort you know dressing yeah if they're on the oscars or something that's always nice yeah exactly yeah yeah yeah because

yeah i was saying big bird earlier and i always yeah loved it when big he would just have like that one little piece here. Yeah, it looks great. It looks great. He's naked except for the little piece, which I don't think Scott is going to do that look at the. Yogi Bear just wears the collar with the tie, you know, like. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Maybe I can get away with it. A collar and a tie. It's a Sesame Street slash Hedda Barbera reference as I'm getting pulled into the police car. Yeah. Well, the police will understand, I think, eventually down at the station. You have to have the cap, though. If they're a fan. I think the cap and the collar and the tie.

Completes the outfit. Completes it. Yeah. And otherwise, you'd just be your run-of-the-mill pervert. It would look weird without the cap. Without the cap. Yeah. That justifies it totally.

Yeah. Okay. So we have so much to talk about. I want to set, Trevor, I want to set you up a little the cat. Yeah. Justifies it totally, yeah. Okay. So we have so much to talk about. I want to set, Trevor, I want to set you up a little bit here. Okay. Of how we met, how I learned about you. On this show, oftentimes I talk about this hobby of mine, collecting. These two gentlemen are, I would say, casual action figure guys, casual toy people.

I have some. Yeah. Yes, but I'm, no, like action figure guys, casual toy people. I have some. Yeah. Yes, but I'm, no, it's not even, I don't think I'm 1% what you are. Right. We know of toys. Yes. Yeah, yeah. And I've bought them as an adult.

Oh, okay. Yes. Yeah, yeah. And I have some NECA stuff. I've got, yeah. Thanks to Mike, honestly. I got you a couple of Back to the Future things, which are great.

Jason will collect what he likes. Jason has a maggot toy from the X-Men, one of his favorite characters. Oh, for the Marvel Legends. He's got some Marvel Legends. He just got Wimpy in the mail from the company Boss Fights. Oh, that's a good one. So he's very excited about that.

You have Popeye and Wimpy now uh you have popeye and wimpy now i have popeye and wimpy now yeah so they can hang out that's how it starts you know it's he's just he's lonely and you need to he needs friends that is true and that's that's how the marvel you know i i uh i don't have uh the room for this uh this problem uh but i have a lot of tabs open on my computer mike makes the room you'll like you'll have it whether you have the room or not you will you will carve some space out of wherever you're living we have a garage now which is dangerous for a collector because a lot of stuff goes into like little bins that i buy so this is the plight of the the collector so anyway a couple so you know for many

years at the company you work for neca which i've talked about before you would do one fun ninja turtles release a year usually at comic-con right and it'd be like oh this is fun this is great to get a little retro ninja turtles thing you know once a year that's a fun little treat and it was about uh the first one was the arc or no the first one was the original comics i believe that was a long that was before me that was that was a long time ago yeah those were awesome that's what that's what really started it and then they went away for a little while and then when i started working there there was an opportunity that popped up to do like the uh arcade figures right um which was yeah so they like have like kind of pixelated look to them. And that was great to get those.

And then I think you did the movies, the movie figures, which I believe you sculpted. Is that correct? Yeah. And the arcade ones too. Oh, you did both of them. Okay. Because yeah, you're an artist and a sculptor. And it's how it started was just like, I was sculpting some of this stuff for fun and it sort of turned into like work stuff.

Right. But yeah, so I had worked on the arcade stuff the the early movie stuff there's a bunch of us that were working on it but then and then it went into the cartoon we did a cartoon set yeah following year a great retro package that looks like the old like cases that you would get like back in the old days I don't know if you guys ever had a turtle like big plastic case where you keep your figures in it. The Playmates. Yes, the old Turtles. Like an old vinyl carrying case. Yeah, yeah.

Yes, so that was what you got these cartoon figures in. And again, it's like this is the fun once a year fun that I get to have a comic on. And then I guess it's what, three or four years ago at this point, something changed. Yes. And my life would never be the same. Men of my age's lives would never be the same mostly i'm sure there's women out there but i'm in a lot of toy facebook groups where i lurk and it is mostly men that's why i say yeah but of course there are women out there uh and so you guys started doing everything essentially every version of the ninja turtles

possible the cartoon the fred wolf stuff I'm just talking, by the way. Feel free to interrupt me. I'm getting on a roll here, I think. No, yeah, it's cool. The movie stuff, the Mirage comic. And then recently, which, of course, I've talked about before, the specific Archie comics Ninja Turtles that I read as a kid and I felt was the main canon of the Turtles. I think that is one of the happiest moments I've ever seen Mike. Oh, yeah?

He came to a recording one day. of the turtles. I think that is one of the happiest moments I've ever seen Mike. Oh yeah? He came to a recording one day and I forget whether we were arriving or it was on our way out and he went, NECA is doing the Archie comics Ninja Turtles. It's one of the most requested things we've got, you know, when we were doing the- Sure.

Cause that year when we made that carrying case, Ken Metroni, who was like one of the Archie pencilers, right? Yes. He did the art for the carrying case. Yes. But, you know, that was a cartoon set, but with like Archie artwork and everyone was like, the Archie comics are so great. Like, when are you going to just do Archie figures? And so it was a long time to, because that was like a separate deal we had

to negotiate and it took a while but yeah we finally we're finally doing like Archie proper Archie turtle figures which is very for for again men like myself very exciting yeah uh so and this guy this guy Ken who drew the comics he's like great like he designed up her zerg from toy story ken has got a really insane uh amazing like career right and yeah it's i think he was he was drawing the archie turtle comics like on his lunch break from working on like tiny tunes right and so that was like he would just kind of knock those out and but they're he did the early run of the comics and they're just like beloved by like you know yeah people of a certain age right so yeah ken is like but after he was just kind of doing them as like a side gig right and then when

like um he had worked on the back to the future cartoon for a little bit. Yeah. He did that. He just started naming stuff. I'll ask Ken, like, you know, we found this weird show called like fish police. I don't know if you guys remember.

Oh yeah. I remember. Prime time. Yeah. Exactly. Simpsons. Yeah. Like capital critters and all those.

Yeah. Yeah. And I was, and I was like, I gotta find, I'm sure Ken like worked on fish police and he's like, oh, he's like, yeah, I remember that show. He's like, I didn't do the show, but I did those comics too. And then like, yeah, there was a run of Fish Police comics and he did Gargoyles and like, and then he was, and then he went to Pixar and he was working.

I don't think he worked on the first Toy Story, but he definitely had like a big presence on the second one. Created Emperor Zurg. Yeah. I think he storyboarded that entire scene with the when they're under the parking cones, like running across the street, like causing chaos. What a sequence. That's incredible. I think Ken did all of that stuff, but he's just he's kind of been everywhere and done everything he's got crazy stories about hanging out with like kevin eastman and and peter laird back in the like the height of like the turtles like right you know ken's just a

fascinating guy he's just got a million what's the last name again mitroni mitroni yeah um so yeah so i i brought a couple things just show my uh coasts here i just wanted to show i wanted to show the range of uh of stuff you do okay because it is pretty crazy like this is toka from secret of the use oh yeah i mean it's like gloves to handle the shirt yeah it's a murder weapon really yeah geez yeah jason fraley sculpted that one it's he's got articulated uh mouth and the beak and the eyebrows are articulated so you get all kinds of cool um um so you can pass these around it feels like close to being on set you would think like i mean it is small but it in terms of like texture and realism it's as close as we can come to like

uh he's saying hi to me on his on his lunch break and his beak moves i mean it's like it's these yeah these were maybe my favorite figures that year that was token raza are a great set yeah jason jason gets like crazy obsessive with careful all the details and stuff yeah uh this is usagi he's from usagi ujimbo that's from the fred wolf cartoon and this is from coming out of our shells so like the the difference in the styles is really remarkable, which is what makes people like me nuts about this. What's this frog? That's one of the punk frogs.

Oh, boy. From the Fred Wolf. That's from the... I always forget which one is which, so that's blasphemous. It's not Genghis. It's... Oh, boy. That's Napoleon.

Okay. Yeah. So, yeah, there were four punk frogs, which were like the... They're like sort of... They were bad for a little while, but then they... Yeah, they were kind of counterparts like shredder wanted his own team of mutants that he could train like you know in the evil arts or something and he so he named them all like gangus attila rasputin really bad author like after his

heroes right of course and they're they're called the punk frogs but they're just not like they're from like they just wear these hawaiian shirts and like the shorts like there's nothing really that punk about them you know yeah i don't know that the people making it like knew what punk meant maybe not i don't know and that all their all their voices they sounded kind of like gym neighbors so like their voices were all hilarious on the show. And like the frogs are some of my favorite characters from the cartoon. Yeah. So it's, yeah.

So you're doing this like just even to describe what you do. I think you do a lot of things, but like you're watching old cartoons for references. Yeah. I just get paid to watch cartoons and old turtle movies and you have comics you have what sounds like a six-year-old from 1989's dream job or yeah definitely very close to that yeah um so just get to make toys and uh and you're looking for for details basically because like right now i'm holding the the coming out of our shells michelangelo with a shredded jean vest yeah yeah and on the back is a poster for the musical mutagen tour just like the degree of detail fit onto this uh this single uh action

figure is nuts yeah I sculpted the uh socks no socks. No, those are the fabric leg warmers. I sculpted the shoes on that guy. Wow, wow. Jason that did Toca, he sculpted the head for that one. That one's got a hinged mouth and the creepy like giant eyes. Oh, yeah. It does perfectly like reflect how those turtles are kind of off. Yeah. Like you incorporate that they're weird suits.

Yeah, we try to capture like kind of the fun weirdness of yeah with so many that's incredible that you're that's the that's the goal because like a more corporate way of doing these toys would smooth that out and not embrace the no we have to it's yeah it's just too fun we have to like we're just making the toys that we want you know so like yeah even when that became a possibility, it was like, we really have to, we just need to go all out and make it crazy. So like, yeah. That's when I remember Lindsay said to me, she goes, oh, you're like, these are, you're so happy about these, these coming out of her shoulder, which she didn't call them that.

But I go, I go, you know what this means? This means anything is possible. Like I give a very dramatic. It was a turning point for us. Yeah. I give a very dramatic thing. Most optimistic thing I've ever said in my life. All of a sudden those skies were blue.

And then your next thing out of your mouth, let's have a child. Yeah. It inspired us to have a child. And we did. Brett, I have a photo that says NECAA if you could bring it up whenever you get a chance so I've you know I've been watching all these videos like anytime you guys do a thing

this is by the way what my displays look like I've become a display guy yeah you gotta have the display you can't just have a shelf so now I'm like displaying things I have my own light. Well, I've put some lights under the shelves to display things. Holy smokes.

So I've turned into like Reverend Lovejoy with his trains, essentially. You're in too deep now. You've gone too deep. Are you kidding me? When Jane and I got to your birthday party, we were some of the first ones there and somehow this came up. But you were like showing us on your phone on amazon like i bought these oh the little lights i bought these

little lights yeah you have the the accessory set you got the tv with a stuck and everything oh my god i'm i'll tell you how crazy i am later because we have so much stuff to get to but wait jump give us one taste of what what is later well it i have a couple there's a couple guys a couple uh toy dudes that i text with and we're always sort of on top of like okay it looks like stuff's hitting this week so i happen to be a bunch of uh your stuff came out once in march or so and oh yeah i'm in facebook And I, all of a sudden you see a bunch of guys start posting about it. So I go, Hmm. And this is like baby. I'm watching the baby. I just by luck had like a lunch meeting to go to. And I built 30 minutes in to go to the North Hollywood target,

the closest target. Yeah. Yes. And I went to North Hollywood and boy, I ran into the guy stocking. Oh, wow. As soon as like, it was, I almost fell over. Yeah. Perfect time. And he was uncomfortable because I was just standing there. I was trying not to be rude, but he felt like I was about to steal everything. And I was like, I'm not taking everything. I just want one of each. For a couple of friends, I was getting two things. So I was just standing there. I'm late for the lunch meeting but i cannot believe my luck and i just i got most of most of the stuff that was released so i got that that like that

week that it came out um and that employee is uh safe healthy um he's been released yeah he's been released his limbs all function yeah he's because he's in witness protection from me so he requested it like hey is it okay if i transfer to another target no to another country i will put my hand on a bible i did not like stalk him or put like one of the apple tracers on his car or something like i just it was pure luck that i was there the time he is not accepting your facebook friend requests though no but i don't know you man yeah um just by luck i can i'll take some of the heat off uh you and tell an embarrassing story uh a kind of a seminal embarrassing story i don't think it's come up on the show before but the presence of usagi yujimbo is a big uh plays a big part of this uh go ahead which was um i it was it was a day in the summer

when i i was very young and you know uh i was up before my mom and i was like i think she said we're going to woolworths today and i was like pacing around pacing around were you gritting your teeth and i i was i was just like okay they have that whole aisle of action figures and i was like i'm pretty sure they have usagi jimbo and if they do i maybe i'll get it today and i i couldn't wait any longer as i went and i kind of woke her up i was like hey hey are we going to woolworths today Woolworths she's like what is everything okay I'm like yeah I just what are we doing today

and she kind of like eventually was like what and eventually got out and she's like please don't ever wake me up again to figure out where we're going that you can look at action figures. Did you listen?

I did listen. Oh, I bet you're a good boy. I think. Did you get him? No, I never got him. Oh, what a sad story. So then I last night as I'm, you know, looking at all the NECA stuff and looking at some of what Mike had talked about and stuff, I have all of the Generate, because I know there's NECA Yusagi Jimbo's. I'm on eBay and I'm like, how much does the Playmates want it?

It's like, oh, inbox, still $50 for the old one that may well be rotting with some plastics, you know, the packaging or stuff. Depends, yeah. But the Neko one looks great. He looks like picture perfect of the Sansa Kai comic. Do you want to hold it? Do you want to stay with him? Yeah, put him on.

Yeah, Jason, this is a thing that you should have, you were denied as a kid. Yeah, look into his eyes. Yeah, just bring him next to you. If you want to cuddle whatever needs to happen here we'll give you the space i shamefully i have not read a lot of uh usagi jimbo it's it's a thing that's been going for decades and there's phone book size collections and yeah it's digital collections and yeah he's been doing it all 40 years next year

wow and you've gotten to work with stan sakai, who did, yeah, which is pretty crazy. Yeah, Stan's awesome. When we were doing that figure, it was pretty regular emails back and forth with Stan's people and Stan directly and creating the artwork for the box and everything. He's got to approve every stage, the sculpt, the paint, the packaging, all of it. So, yeah, Stan's super cool and like, um, uh, it's cool. Great, great to work with. So he was at wonder con a couple of months ago and I, I got to meet him in person and actually talk to him for a minute or two. And yeah, it was, it was cool.

Got him to sign some stuff. Sure. Great. That's awesome. Um, so yeah, so all this to say this turtle, you know what, I'll, I'll throw one more turtle thing out real quick and then we'll explain how we got to canada's wonderland um brett that that link i just sent you a lot of these interviews you do with toy uh people that i end up watching a common thing happens and i kind of feel some i feel some sympathy too because i i feel the urge that

the interviewers will they'll just be like do you think um maybe there's a chance you could make and then they'll just list one of the characters they want. Yeah. Which, of course, I get that. But also you're like, well, I'll show like when it happens, it happens. Usually how you can answer that question. But I will say, is there a chance we could ever get the Disney MGM Studios specific characters in and with Alan Thicke singing a song a five pack

this is I'm pushing everybody over at Target any employee I'm pushing over if I get my Turtles era Alan Thicke I've never seen anyone ask me about this you know it was only in all honesty a couple weeks ago when internally

we were talking about this very thing and like kind of joke like it's it's probably never ever gonna happen but if i could sculpt another uh another turtle it would be like those big kind of puffy like walk around suits like yeah from mgm and there's there's the um they did a video with like the la transit or something like you know and so there's pictures of like we were just talking about this the other day like yeah those suits would be so so much fun to do and it's again it's a weird crazy thing that kind of perfectly shows like the height of the 90s like the early 90s like turtle mania yeah and like no one's ever thought to sculpt like one of those costumes like that giant costume was shrunk down to an action

figure would be so cool it'd be great it's a lot of forms doubling in yeah we have to watch yeah play a little bit i think it's like 38 seconds it starts we should get a booth at comic-con you can sell it there sure because it's like a theme park thing like 38 seconds or so is when alan starts singing oh boy with a rap i mean we're gonna well aren't we we've been talking about doing a full episode about we will do a full episode about this but yeah we'll show a little clip right yeah i mean leather jacket sunglasses clad Alan Pick. Kind of Terminator-ish Alan Pick.

Yeah, I was going to say it's half Terminator and half David Hasselhoff, like Knight Rider. Yeah, yeah. With the red shirt and the jacket. Oh, they're so great. They look like dopey smiles. Turtles I met at Cub Foods when they signed my cookie box at age five yeah they're still different than like the turtles who might be at you know uh yeah a market opening or a movie theater opening or the ice capades or yeah there's still there's a lot

more to go oh yeah um so yeah right you can stop playing it uh that's the only thing i'll say yeah uh you can also also feel free to leave this cool alan thick still where he's looking out into the florida sun i think until we change topics entirely i would like this to be on screen r.i.p alan i've gotten so much joy out of alan thick this is why this is a perfect piece of footage because like yeah i love 90s turtles you really love 90s turtles i on top of that love alan thick and the music career of alan yeah also coming all coming to the show but um uh please yeah i don't know if this if this helps if this like this random focus group i was talking to these three random guys yeah who all thought this would be a good idea yeah they said it was yeah they okayed it i'll just tell my boss randy it's like

yeah podcast the ride said it's like it's it's gold you know they okayed it. I'll just tell my boss, Randy, it's like, yeah, Podcast the Ride said it's like, it's gold. You know, we got to do it. It'll sell. These will sell. Yes. So I'll calm down now and then say that one of, so one of these interviews you were doing, I perked up when I heard you say, I grew up in a theme park.

That, yes, that is true. And I was like, whoa, that whoa that phrase again another child's dream yeah uh uh was your experience growing up and that was canada's wonderland yeah that's right so uh yeah i mean just where does that mean what does it mean tell us so basically i wasn't there every day i didn't live there but like yeah my dad uh the park opened in 81, uh, the same year I was born. My dad worked there, uh, since, you know, he, he got hired in like 1980. So he was there like building, helping like just assemble, like get everything together. So all through the eighties, um, he was like the games manager at Canada's Wonderland.

So we were just there all the time. Like my sister and my mom, all like, we would just there all the time like my sister and my mom all like we just go and hang out like like all through the summer and stuff like we were just I just grew up at Canada's Wonderland wow so and actually in a crazy thing because he was um he would go to toy fair every year and this is how like this it's weird this probably formed like me you know like he would come back from New York Toy Fair with stacks of like toy catalogs and then my friends and I would just sit there and just like look through like the Kenner catalog it's like you'd see all the new Ghostbusters coming out for

like this year and you know um and so all the all the Mattel catalogs you see all the He-Man toys and like it's just so my whole life. And then they would send like, they knew my dad, like they knew he had a kid that was like the perfect age for all of that 80s stuff. So like he would just come home with like sales samples of, I would get like boxes of Ninja Turtles and like Toxic Crusaders. And like, we just had so many toys you know they would just so yeah i was like some weird like kind of test subject kid or something for all this all the the 80s toy

mania i was just like completely like surrounded by it so would he tell people like oh my son really responded to probably i'm sure he did yeah he was giving feedback on stuff there probably was some of that yeah but yeah we would just like, I remember getting like a turtle blimp, but it was like this, it was all incomplete. It was just like in a box, you know? Wow, really? Yeah. And so I'd have to like build the missing pieces for it.

And I got a general trag that just came with a Ziploc bag full of weapons, you know? It was like weird samples that someone had laying around an office and right i'd either get like a full fresh case of toxic crusaders or i just get like any weird random toy they had like lying around so i just had like all this stuff so did you have do you still have any of that stuff i have a couple of the toy catalogs still yeah um a lot of my old like a lot of my 80s toys are gone it's a very tragic story and then and then a lot of i know i had the krangs android body like for a long time and i'm pretty sure my mom like just took it to the thrift store you know took it to goodwill or something there's my mom gets rid of a lot of that stuff right oh geez. Yeah, yeah. That's not trash.

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you know, they would just get a kit of like unassembled skeeball machines. And so they would just like unbox it, like, you know, screw them all together, like set them up. Like he was building all of that stuff. And then, so all the stuff in the arcades, like the redemption things where you get like a stuffed animal or like you know there's like uh those duck races like right he was he was kind of in charge of all of that stuff wow so geez early 80s theme park canadian arcade this is so many so many keywords yeah there's a lot to unpack lit up on every level so so so he even when the park you were there he was working there for many years so he was just like he would check on

which games were doing well what was breaking down yeah probably yeah yeah probably all that stuff um and then yeah like if i don't know it's like there's when did the horse racing game with the you know what i'm talking about? You roll the balls. The roll the balls up. Yeah. That's one of my favorites. Like the multi with the tiered where they kind of like step up. There's all the horses. Yes.

Yes. It's like there's three. There's like a hole that's three points or like. Oh, yeah. The rings. Like it's like if you get it in the center. Yeah. Well, I think.

Yeah, that's no. I'm describing skeeball. Like you're just. Yes. No. What? No. Which one are you talking? So there's like a power it's a little diamond i think and that usually i think

the top is like we're three like paces or three steps horse and then uh the next one is like two and then the bottom one is maybe one and so if you roll it and you get it up to in the third the horse will go one two three on the board and you're playing against everybody else and i'm pretty sure this is no that one i'm pretty sure this is the game i beat a bunch of little kids on the santa monica pier and won homer accidentally though because i sat down first and then was like ready to go okay play and then i looked to my right after i won and went uh-oh you're a man in your 20s who would just be a bunch of kids yeah he's he's got stories about you know like the guy that invented like

whack-a-mole or like there's like he knows i think he he knows all of these people you know because it's it's usually just a couple companies that like you know they build all these games or they come up with some new thing right and it's sold to like all the parks you know so it's um yeah he's just he's got a million because he's been doing this stuff since 1980 like that was his first he's been working in like the amusement industry like since then and still yeah still yeah wow yeah where is it where is he what is he doing now is he's not at canada's wonderland no no he left there he now he he works for um uh a company that makes like the the stuffed animals so he's like on the other side like selling ah like all the prizes yeah

he switched to the prizes so yeah he's he's yeah probably a couple years away from retirement but he just that's all he does is just work so he's in he was just at carowinds yesterday or he's going there today i don't he was just at dollywood wow in the last like like i when i was talking to him on the phone he's like driving through north carolina right now probably on the way to carowinds or something geez making the making the round which is like what like assessing like what's working what could we do different yes something like that wow yeah hanging out with a bunch of, you know, old amusement buddies and stuff like just. So he's like Dollywood needs a fresh batch of like raccoon plush.

Yeah. And he's the guy that'll, you know, go scrounge that up. You'll find it, get it on a truck, get it shipped. Wow. And because he does a lot of he's a lot of his customers are, you know, they'll they'll do like the like a state fair that's only there for like a couple of weeks or a month. So he's got to make sure like the product hits, like when they, when they're going to be in town, like it's got to get to the destination. So he's got to coordinate, you know, with like the shipping company and everything,

like make sure they hit all their, their destinations, like on the right dates. Cause yeah, some of them are like traveling shows and stuff so i don't know it's an interesting job probably you don't think about that being a job yeah yeah as a kid were you so like yeah as a kid what i mean obviously everybody's just like oh this is what my parents do yeah but did you kind of know like it's kind of cool i knew it was unusual because like all the other kids in school were just like your dad does what you know and then we would you know everyone would want to go to like the park with us and you know because everyone else had i think normal jobs you know so we just work in an office or do whatever and yeah it was just it definitely, I knew it was a weird thing because none of my other friends like kind of lived in an amusement park.

My sister and I were the only ones, you know, in the, in the neighborhood. You were really in like a, my uncle works for Nintendo sort of scenario. But for real. Yeah, for real. My dad works for an amusement park in the um uh and one of my dad's friends like uh you remember in in peewee's big adventure when he goes to that novelty like joke shop and he's just oh what do you got what's new this week and he's got the like my dad had a friend like that for years and he was like he was one of my uncles you know sure like i think he got me the ghostbusters firehouse and

all this stuff but we would go to his guy named Solly and we'd go to his warehouse where all he had was just novelty like stuff like whoopee cushions and like inflatable rambos and like just. Wow. Just like every weird thing like he had all of it and you know we'd get these weird when ghostbusters was like huge he had these like like a ghost in a can like these weird glow-in-the-dark like fake but yeah but it wasn't even that it was just like it was this weird can it would like shake or something you just find these weird things they put like a ghostbuster logo or something and it's like an old trick yeah yeah just be like ghostbusters yeah this week it's ghostbusters next and it's like an old trick yeah yeah they would just be like ghostbusters yeah this week it's ghostbusters next week it's you know it's thundercats or whatever right kids

wouldn't know yeah so all of my dad's friends were just like they were all in like you know this this industry so it's just yeah so we would just have all kinds of weird stuff and weird just like fun like experiences and right growing up, it was just crazy. They were all in the serious business of fun. Yeah. Yeah. Would you go like when you were going to like that, that, that uncle, were you like extra?

Like, was there one even like guy you knew where you're like, this is the best one of all these? That was the guy. It was that guy? It was always going to see him was like always the best. Yeah. Cause it was just, you never knew what there was what you're gonna find because it was really just a warehouse and he just let you like dig through everything and right you know it was great and

there was like a i remember some kind of a showroom or something but yeah it was just it was all just like those those weird um like those finger puppets or like those weird ugly faces where you'd put like you get your thumb and fingers in there and like scrunch up the faces and it was just like there's just all he had all like the wacky wall crawlers and all the all that sticky like gooey stuff like oh yeah like the hands that would like splat right we had my mom would like she never wanted us wanted me bringing that stuff home because I just stick everything to the wall

and get ground into the carpet and like ruin everything. Just pick up hair. Yeah. Yeah. If you're not careful with that stuff. Yeah,

it was good for about two minutes because you drop it, it would just be full of lint and dust and carpet. Yeah. The scourge of moms in the 90s was any number of sticky items.

Yeah, all that goo and slime. They're so happy. The kids are so happy. I don't want to make them sad, but also our walls are atrocious now. Every good toy line had slime. Yeah. Yeah. And I think, yeah, what was like, was Floam one of them in the late 90s?

Oh, that was, yeah, like a 90s Nickelodeon thing. Yeah. Yeah. Did you have Gak or Ooze or Floam? I don't remember which one I did. I wanted to have all of them. Floam feels very familiar where it has like the little like dot seeds. Like little granules or something.

Yeah. But then it would get so disgusting when it. Yeah. Just like. Yeah. Yeah. Just. Yeah. The dried up version of it was like

like old cat shit or something. You guys did. Didn't Muckman didn't you put ooze in him. Yeah. I don't think I've

opened the ooze still for one of the toys you did. by now. You think it is. It may be. Because we've done two slime toys.

We did a prop replica of the mutagen canister from the first movie. That came with the jar of slime. And I have that sitting on my shelf at home. And it's just like a hockey puck now. It's just all evaporated and just whatever thing is left. But yeah, Muckman was the other one. We gave a little... I should open that slime.

Yeah. Now we know what do you yeah now we know the shelf life of muck yeah they were not proper yeah i have a bag of that stuff because the factory yeah they because the factory we're trying to get the right color you know and or the right consistency or something so the factory will just send us like five different samples. I was just here, just label them A, B, C, D, and I'll just pick the one I like best. And I have this also I just found the other day under my bed. There's like a just a Rubbermaid tub of like toys and stuff. And there's a bag of slime jars.

They've been sitting under there since we made the Muckman figures. Oh, those are just the samples. Those are the early samples where i had to just pick the one i like best so yeah there's all mucks yeah there's just a whole bunch of slime under rejected so there's a factory that just makes slime still oh yeah probably there's probably a few slime's big there's uh you ever go to powerCon? It was like the He-Man show. I've actually never been to PowerCon. Okay. So I, I had a booth there, uh, like 2019 or 2018 or something like that. And we were kind of in the, it was in a little ballroom out in Torrance, like at a Marriott or something. So

I was in like the overflow section out in the hallway i had a little table set up i was selling like this nonsense like artwork and and everything and like two tables over from me there was like a girl and her dad and their booth was called the slime pit and she just brought like homemade slime oh yes that was huge yeah a few years ago right before the pandemic yeah so she she came in her and her dad they set up this table of slime and every everything was sold in like an hour or something yeah they just like they came in like just sold all their slime and then they were just they just kind of hung it up and just walked around like just it was this little girl she just made it like a

killing it like the family slime business yeah yeah wow what can i if i keep asking questions are we going to get down some weird place like what is what do people like slime what's the appeal i think it was the same appeal as when it was big when when like we were kids but um i had a science teacher for a few years in elementary school, and that was how she got kids' interest in science. She'd be getting food dye and cornstarch, and everyone get a beaker of water, and you could just make slime. Right.

It was incredibly simple. Yeah. I guess I did make it. Even though I had it, I think it felt messy to me and maybe i didn't like oh sure i mean you're right i was not right yeah yeah like finger painting and i didn't like any of that stuff when i was a kid yeah scott's line pro pro uh um i feel like i liked it the idea of it more than the than the messy reality like being slimed would scare me yeah yeah or what uh you can't did you watch you can't do or no not yeah well that's what yeah slime but um what would you do which is the game

show on nickelodeon that mark summer's hosted oh double dare no no this was the other game show there's this other one where it was just like what is it i don't know lots of excuses for slime and pies can we like reduce let's get those questions out of there just make it a big that would have been a nightmare just being on one of those shows where you're just like diving into a pit of like goo i still kind of want it i i would do that i would do it now yeah but as a kid i was like the idea of being messy in public i didn't like that at all yeah i like it i i had one thing of Gak that again was me like as a kid I knew

I had seen so many commercials for like the Chuck E. Cheese Gak tie-in where you could if you went to Chuck E. Cheese and you got enough you spent so much for enough tokens you get a three miniature thing of Gak that smelled like pizza

and we got it home and i was just so excited and my mom opened it up and it was the most overwhelming garlic smell i've ever smelled in my life and she's like i'm sorry no i can't we're not and she's like i these i'm sorry you you won a lot of toys today so you're not you didn't come home at the end of it but like these have to go in the garbage because like I could tell she my her side of the fact like my grandfather

he hated garlic and he passed it on to his kids the hatred of garlic the hatred and smell of taste of garlic smell of garlic so that you open this thing of gack and it smelled like garlic i was like oh no also chucky cheese garlic is beyond you know it's not like fresh from the old country or something appreciate that yeah a nice restaurant but i'm sure i mean because that

chucky cheese smell that that oh i didn't particularly like it either. But no, this was unopened virgin Gak promo Gak. We got to see if we can find a vintage sample of this and bring it back to life. Yeah. Of Chuck E. Cheese Gak for Jason. Mike, you were correct that if we kept talking about this, we'd get to something weird, which is the phrase virgin Gak. It did. It was bound to happen. Pure untouched Gak.

I mean, who knows how long it had been there. Who knows how long it had been sitting around. But yeah, as soon as I smelled garlic, I was like, oh no. I knew this was not. Your dreams are crushed. Dreams are crushed. Had not made an attempt to get Gak before this. Maybe that's a side hustle for you is selling garlic gack, garlic slime.

I think I could figure it out. With the smell, you can make it imbued with, I mean, you just got to keep it in a room, I guess. I think the thing to do would be get the frozen cubes of basil and garlic. And you mix that in the slime. Does he have to do this? Did you? Okay. How much does Mike need it to happen,

and how much does Jason actually want it to happen now? Well, you just saw how excited he was. He looked so happy. Thinking about Jason selling garlic slime at some convention somewhere. I think I really just like the idea of Jason with a little table selling slime and step right up step right up yeah you could wear like the old-timey outfit a barker yeah yeah yeah the smelliest slime in town and the straw hat and everything um so you're so how many times a week

are you a can of this wonderland as a kid oh yeah i wish i had kept a diary or some journal yeah it was i know my dad said every birthday we were there sure um and i think it was i i remember my mom saying there were just days in the summer where if there was just everyone was bored there's nothing to do she just like pack us in the car and just drive to Wonderland. We just run around. Right. Yeah, I just remember just always being there. This is Toronto, by the way, and you grew up in Toronto? It's right outside. Yeah, it's right outside north of Toronto. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Which seems like, look, I soak up a lot of this. I am not from Canada, but I'm jealous of people from Canada. Oh, really? I watch so much like that. Do you watch that Retro Ontario? It's a great channel.

Yeah. Oh yeah. Retro Ontario. That is, it's a real, that is a true, like just a blast from the past, like watching old city TV clips and just all the weird random stuff.

Uh, yeah. That come sometimes it's frustrating though. Cause they'll just have a clip of something and cause we'll, we'll just turn that on a night and start watching it and um there's some weird thing will just pop on and then it cuts to the next thing and i'm just like god damn it i want to watch the entire i just want to see the whole episode of like there was like a grandpa rental thing on a they had like a like a it's not like a news show but it was some sort of like there were people

sitting in this room talking about like the day's events and then they they would have like guests on and and i swear this happened it was i know it was late at night but like i'm watching this thing and they they brought on like a little boy and there was like this old man and there was like some sort of service somewhere in Toronto or part of Ontario where like if your grandparents had like died or they weren't around, like there was like a, it was almost like a, like not like a nanny or you know, like a babysitter thing, but it was just specifically to go hang out with like old people for the day you could call a number and they would just send you a grandpa and then and then it just cuts and

then it and then it goes to some other like there's a guy reviewing movies or they're talking about some other weird there's like a parade for something yeah and i'm like just we got to finish this grandpa story like yeah oh my god did you Did you find something? Is this a thing? Wait a minute. No, this is, okay. I looked up Grandpa Reynolds, Retro Ontario, and I found an ad. I got really excited

because I found an ad with Ed Asner. And suddenly I'm like, is Ed Asner the spokesman for Grandpa Reynolds? But it's something else called Granada Rentals. It was kind of a, did you mean,

he's like taking you into it, like maybe a TV Reynolds, a movie Reynolds store. Because if I was like. Maybe I just misheard it. A movie rental store. Because if I was like, did I just find the greatest clip in history? Ed Asner on behalf of. Do you need a grandpa? But you don't want one long term. You need a short term hang with a grandpa.

Just for the weekend. Don't have the money required to permanently buy a grandpa. Well, we got to keep looking for that yeah yeah i would like to oh yeah yeah retro ontario is uh that's a good channel and the kids shows were you guys had bowser on yes recently right and yeah yeah the the canadian kids shows like mr dress up and fred penner and like yeah they were so great yeah yeah yeah Sharon Lewis and Bram they were pretty Canadian okay I had seen them at Canada's Wonderland they had like an amphitheater I was actually I have one of Bowes's shirts um there's a Sharon Lewis and Bram like concert

t-shirt that he just made so I was wearing that at some really some other, there was like a banjo festival just like a week or two ago. Sure. So I'm, so I'm wearing my Sharon Lewis and Bram shirt waiting in line to buy some like barbecue and some, some old guy comes walking over and he's just staring at like, he's like, what is that shirt? He's like, what year did you see them? I said, I don't know.

I was like, I was like, it's Bowser's shirt. You know, it's like maybe it was from the eighties. And this guy told me that when his daughter got married, their first dance is like, was the Skinnamarinky dinky dinky. The elephant song? Yeah, the elephant song.

And this guy, this guy and his wife were just, Bowser's shirt just brought so much joy to the banjo and fiddle festival. Oh my God. I guess that, you know what? Nice. That's shocking. But also at the banjo festival, it just oh my god i guess that you know what nice that's shocking but also at the banjo festival it just feels right yeah yeah it was great like a very

low key did you watch the elephant show yeah yeah nickelodeon i think when we were yeah we got it i it now it makes so much sense to me like like as a kid i was like so there's how so many hours of shows made just for us kids. How do they find the time? And then realizing a lot of it is repurposed Canadian. Yeah. And especially if it's like very, you know, sweater and beard and brown, then, you know, it's probably a Canadian export, which I liked anything like that. Very childhood affinity for sure.

For just like the calmness of the canadian do you guys remember size small you ever seen that there's a sound so familiar there's a there's a guy there's a giant record his name's friend record it's like a human-sized vinyl record an anthropomorphic record yeah oh and his size small is scary size small is a crazy one uh but yeah friend record would come out and he'd tap some the spoons were named tip and tap and they would like they'd sing some songs but it was a guy like in a black leotard that sort of like stepped through a record and then it was just like a big smiling face and stuff kind of scary i think just like the freaky this big this big round shape and

then he had a blunt smile friend record had a cousin named like cousin wagon wheel or something and they kind of repurposed the costume into a giant like wagon wheel wow wow and so this was too weird for nickelodeon to buy the rights to yeah they might have passed on that yeah but it was totally fine for canada you know yeah it showed ontario and like manitoba and everywhere let me Let me ask something I can't now not ask about, and it ties into Canada's Wonderland. Did you grow up with the show The Littlest Hobo? Well, we've got, we may have a clip or two.

Okay, good, good, good, good. All right, all right. Thank God. I was disappointed in myself. I didn't have them. Yes. Is now a good time? I mean, I guess you brought it up.

Wait, sorry. What was your answer to that? Yeah. Who doesn't like the littlest hobo? Do you know? I heard it, I think, but I didn't know what it was until Trevor brought it to my attention. About five or ten years ago, I learned about the littlest hobo. That's about when I did, too.

Yeah. I had this big phase like seven, eight years ago, I learned about The Littlest Hobo. That's about when I did too. Yeah, I had this big phase like seven, eight years ago. I think after I did a trip to Toronto and enjoyed it so much and just wanted to soak up more Canadian stuff. You talk about early 80s, pleasant Canadian aesthetic. This show, oh my God, it had such a calming effect on me for a while, just eating up these YouTube versions. The Lost Hobo, for anyone who doesn't know, was a show about the most trusty dog there could ever be, just a good, good dog. Very good dog, yeah.

Who goes from town to town, encounters strangers, susses out the problems in their life and with each other fixes the problems by moving various objects around with his mouth solves everything that's going on in this family or this town or

whatever real quick then it enters everybody's mind this dog has been such a great presence in our lives maybe the dog should stay and then there's always someone who knows like no this dog just keeps such a great presence in our lives. Maybe the dog should stay. And then there's always someone who knows, like, no, this dog just keeps moving on. Because the dog is the littlest hobo, and a hobo doesn't stick around.

The hobo gets on the train and keeps riding to the next spot where he's needed again. Six seasons. Wow. Of the 70s. There was a 60s version I read. Oh, really? Two seasons for the 60s versions and six seasons for the 1979 version.

Yeah. Can I ask, we don't have this unless you say. I have three clips from an episode that I think you're probably talking about. Yeah, but now I'm like, I need the song. Oh, I have it. Brett, you have the song? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mike, thank you.

If you have. Because I knew when we talked, littlest hobo this is something This is red meat for us Yeah yeah I can't Littlest is a thing we like Hobo is a thing we like The dog is a hobo The dog being a hobo

This song is the I might throw this in the Discussion of best theme song of all time It's hobo one is the clip Thank you Mike It was my insecurity today I feel like I'm prepared for the episode the discussion of best theme song of all time. Yeah, but it's Hobo 1 is the clip. Oh, thank you, Mike. I was like, it was my insecurity today. I feel like I'm prepared for the episode, but I didn't bother to clip the Littlest Hobo theme.

I thank Trevor for this. Oh, good. Okay. He's the one who sent it to me. Oh, you're welcome. Okay, okay. Fascinating you know this. I had such a big Littlest Hobo phase that I'm so fond of.

I think this is the right clip. Yeah, play it and we'll edit if so fond of. I think this is the right clip. Play it and we'll edit it if it's not. I think we're good. Starring London the dog. Love you, London. I'm a new friend. Can't stay for long. Just turn around and I'm gone again. Maybe tomorrow I'll want to settle down.

Until tomorrow I'll just keep going. Balloons and then pleasant shots of the dog. The background horns there. Wonderful orchestration. Just grab your hat and we'll travel. Like that's hobo style. And then is this the one that has He's holding a rifle in his mouth.

A big gun with a strap. Running with a rifle in his mouth. As a party. There's so much to like about that. It's like smoking a bunch of cigarettes. I don't... Yes, a ton to like about that. It's like smoking a bunch of cigarettes. I don't. Yes, a ton to like.

Can I also just say that this is how deep the phase went that I had a tradition for a while of giving my wife birthday presents that were like little custom videos of our cat at the time, Beanie, RIP Beanie. We love Beanie. And I recreated that intro with the black squares and the yellow font with our cat and I with new lyrics based on our cat and including I got a little like 99 cent store little toy

gun and tried to prop it up next to the cat's mouth as best as I could it was not happening did not take but I tried. Yeah, love Lola Sobo. Wow, that's incredible. But you brought it up presumably because of the tie-in to Canada's Wonderland.

Yeah, we... Brett, actually, go back to the clip and play it after that because I have some clips of him going to the park. Oh, okay. Sorry, cut you off. Yeah, no, no. Yeah, my girlfriend and i we were um

we went down some rabbit's hole of like just like weird like canada's wonderland stuff a couple years ago or maybe that's when we found like retro ontario and i don't know we were just she's also fascinated just canada stuff and not from canada she's no she's from here wow wow um yeah and just like weird just she's just fascinated by all this stuff so yeah we found this this canada's wonderland episode of the littlest hobo and again she just got sucked into this it was just so strange and it's like the whole episode is kind of it's just so bizarre you know because it's like the whole episode is kind of it's just so bizarre, you know, because it's like the day before the park is opening and there's just no one in there. But this lady that's like has amnesia and then she's very troubled. She was in a car accident.

Yeah. Scrambled her brain up. And she knows enough people. There's enough awareness that she is not just an employee of canada's wonderland but like the employee she's like mrs wonderland or something yeah yeah they can't open without her without her because then once and it's the day before so it's like they need her so badly yes this cannot happen without her brett just play that play it right here from here because this is like uh uh the littlest hobo going into the park again like at the start i haven't seen a lot

of littlest hobo now but this would be like the setup to yeah he this is where littlest hobo going into the park again, like at the start, I haven't seen a lot of little hobo now, but this would be like the setup too. Yeah. This is where littlest hobo just sort of wanders up to the front gate. There's no one there. Right. One security guard. And he's like,

what are you doing here? Little hobo. Right. And the little, this is like this little hobo would sense something was wrong and that he was needed. He gets it so fast. Walks up to three people, figures out the problem in their lives.

See how alert he is? He knows. He just knows something's happening. And this is the entrance to Candace Wonderland that you remember. No, I don't remember this because we always took the employee entrance. Oh, right. So seeing the front gate is bizarre because I just like we never went in that way. So you didn't get to walk on the paw prints of the littlest homer.

Oh, I wish I could have. That sign, that lovely like rounded orange to yellow gradient. So 80s. Yeah. So we have a couple more clips too. So yeah, you really get a good view of the park in a lot of different angles here. Yeah. Empty. It's a weird I'm curious when they film if this genuinely was before the park opened or did they like carve out a day and create a retroactive plot set before the park opened? I wonder what the air date of this episode was.

I don't know the episode is the show is definitely on. It might have premiered in this. This is this is one thing I asked my dad about. about i was like do you remember like this littlest hobo show he's like oh yeah sure well they filmed the whole episode of wonderland he goes i don't know wow no memory of this at all because it seems like it would have been a big deal because they have like cast members like going on the you know they have to set up cameras and like right they're filming all over the park so they almost they invent like a new we have watched so much uh sitcom and tv show episodes killing time at theme parks uh it's some of our favorite where you don't have to worry about any of this any of this story nonsense you can just watch your friends go on rides and yell and laugh

but uh this is a rare episode where they find a new way to contextualize just a character going on a rollercoaster because she has amnesia and she's flashing back to a bad car accident that just happened so she gets on a rollercoaster and then forgets why she got on it and then she's like having an episode on the coaster

it's a horrible thing for her let's make her flashback to the car like usually it's not used for horror yeah no it's fun horrible thing for her it's a bigger flashback to the like usually it's not used for horror yeah no it's fun it should be like inviting it should be a good ad for the place it's also strange that yes this like it's a big episode of this pleasant show set

in a theme park where a woman's having manic episodes and we're like let's just say one thing we haven't said about Canada's Wonderland kind of their castle essentially is like a big fake rock mountain. Yeah, Wonder Mountain. Wonder Mountain. Okay.

That looks fantastic. And they had cliff divers, which is sort of revealed in this episode. But part of her forgetting who she is or what's happening, she just kind of like starts climbing instinctually. Yeah, something leads her up that path to the top of the mountain yeah for no reason she's just walking up to it and then like teetering on the edge yeah which you're of course getting i mean some of it is just confusion but you're certainly like you're dancing on a suicide plot or that she might hurt herself somehow yeah and it's so funny the theme park would go yeah yeah this woman is having a just a mental breakdown and might kill herself on our big famous cliff yeah you would think they would just not have shown canis wonderland yeah they've called it something else yeah they would

film there but not right they would just be whatever not like their logo proudly in the very first shot of the let's just real quick uh uh just hobo two clip brats please uh if you would you know uh major head trauma you usually want to avoid uh mountains massive heights uh roller coaster oh absolutely absolutely so this is a clip of um the littlest hobo sort of learning about this lady and her struggles and then he helps her out he makes an attempt to help her out okay yeah uh here so yeah whenever you're ready i don't seem to have a purse he doesn't know where her purse is and then we cut to where's my purse we cut to a doctor's home number or their parents

they have her purse at the doctor's office. Diabetic. And a severe one. I don't think she'll get very far without this. Concussion, severe diabetes, and probable amnesia. In her state, there's no telling what she'd do. If she can't remember who she is, she's not going to remember she's a diabetic. You better call her personal physician, Dr. Klein, and find out what time of day she normally takes her injection and where she works.

You got it? Yes, doctor. Stakes are high. How does she feel about roller coasters? I don't have any money. So the little hobo knows this kind, he knows that she's diabetic somehow. He can sense it. Yeah, he doesn't have that doctor's information.

Well, he might have read her chart he's you know resourceful yeah checked on her before yeah he even showed up here it's possible it's practical and he just can smell the blood sugar level oh he knows that way that could be so now some real like muppets of construction workers with their lunch pails right on pails yeah so little fellow steals a sandwich from one of them That's a very Canadian construction workers, yeah, I'm angry about the sandwich Yeah, you think you could take my sandwich do you okay? Well? I hope you enjoy it Give it a better hold than I would have. Thanks for taking it from me.

So then he walks and the woman is gone. The whole barge is gone. And yeah, you see great shots of this. We can post some of this. You'll see shots of this park. Oh, this is great. It cuts off here, unfortunately. Then there's a bunch of pirates in a lake.

Yeah. So you see shots of the rides running. There's a dragon breathing fire. Everything at this theme park is triggering this woman. The dragon breathing fire is making her lose her mind. She's teetering on death

because of all the fun stuff you can do. Right. Canada's Wonderland. So Trevor, you've been on all these rides i assume uh i saw a lot of them the the crazy thing was i was terrified of all these oh really my mom and i would just sit on the bench and watch them like my dad and my little sister would go on like

roller coasters i was like terrified the bumper cars were fun uh so like the little kid rides were mostly okay but yeah i was terrified of like roller coaster until uh boy it was like junior high school or something i went on i was i went on an actual like roller coaster for the first time but okay okay yeah all these rides i was like the ghoster coaster was like the little kid scooby-doo roller coaster and it was just too terrifying sure so it's kind of it's a heavy duty coaster park to this day too like it's not even you know i i feel lame for how long i was scared of space mountain which is a like a little dopey compared to i mean there's yeah there's heavy duty coasters yeah in the 90s they got um a really cool one. There's like a Top Gun ride. That's like where your feet dangle.

It's like the tracks above your head. And that one's got like really tight corkscrews and loops. It's just like crazy fast. And that one I did go on eventually. It was like that was a great ride. Seems cool. It's a little bit like the Raptor at Cedar Point. I don't know if you know Cedar Point too well. We have never covered Cedar Point. It's a little bit like the Raptor at Cedar Point. I don't know if you know Cedar Point too well.

We have never covered Cedar Point. It's a big one. We're also not. Jason's the most brave of the three of us, and we really all started out scared, a little scared, even though we're doing a theme park podcast, and you would think we should be like guys that go on everything. Yeah.

The current count of this park is 18 coasters. What? It's only behind Six Flags Magic Mountain. That's insane. It ranks it in terms of number of coasters. I forget whether that's North America or worldwide, but this park has both a hyper coaster and a giga coaster. Really?

What are those? Behemoth is the hyper coaster and a giga coaster really what are those behemoth is the hyper coaster and then I think Leviathan opened only a few years later this park has a behemoth and a Leviathan that is the giga coaster what is it I think it is however many hundred feet that initial drop is. So I think Kuiper is 200 feet or thereabouts, and Giga Coaster is maybe 300 feet. Oh, wow. Between 300 and 399 is Giga. Yeah.

This park has a very detailed YouTube channel where they put a high-definition camera on every coaster. Oh, to do the the pov stuff yeah like you can sit and like on at a big tv and it is disorienting oh to uh you know uh especially leviathan is so large it is uh unnerving to watch on a big television uh but cool too sure sure um when you would go in real quick uh the employee entrance yeah was it that you would know the people working or did you have a pass of some kind i don't remember us having a that's the weird thing i don't remember ever having a pass or a badge my mom might have

right but i i do remember like there's probably times where i was being a little brat and there would be like a security person or someone just kind of, you know, cause there was like, it was, there was like a, like a fence or like this wall with like a little like slit behind it. And then like another little fake wall. Right. And you just kind of sneak through there and then it would go into the back where the offices and the employee parking lot and everything was. And, but you just go around there and it's obviously like restricted access and stuff but we would just run in and out of there like yeah all the time because my dad's office was like in the building like behind there but i'm sure there were

people that were like hey kid come back here you know there are people try to stop us or but i think we were always i don't know i think my mom or someone was always around or yeah they would let us also if it's canadian security guards then they yeah it wasn't that guy it was like the guy he just uh it was i hope you enjoy the employee lot you know hope you have a good reason to be back there don't no need to tell it to me just you know know know it in your own heart yeah exactly i do i like the idea that it would just be like everybody knows everybody so it's like folksy oh you're back hey good to see you it was definitely yeah it was definitely a little folksy there was

like um like when we were in the in the office where where my dad worked like the i remember the lower they were on like the second floor maybe and underneath was like it was where like they were doing all the baking and stuff for like all the restaurants and there was like a there was like the head chef guy was always we'd go down there i um i think his name was like pat but we'd go down there and there'd always be some giant cookie or like all like all this stuff they they would just see us be some giant cookie or like all like all this stuff. They would just see us and like they would just give us like all this. Wow.

All this stuff. Street urchins. Yeah. The dream. You were the littlest hobos. Yeah, I took over for the dog. Getting scraps from stealing bologna sandwiches. What ages were you from when your dad started to when he was

not uh i was like from one to ten or zero to nine or something wow like we left we moved to uh we moved to ohio in like 1990 or 91 maybe so yeah it was all through the 80s we were there wow wow seemed like the time to be there too from just for some like we were there before paramount bought it yeah okay i was gonna ask because i as a kid i knew about canada's wonderland because my family regularly went to king's dominion in virginia they're like and they're like sister parks uh and they they did the full you know owned by Taft Broadcasting and that's when you had Hanna-Barbera

and the Smurfs and then Paramount comes in in the mid 90s and that definitely elevated those parks in my mind I think in my family's mind too because we're like yeah Paramount is a movie studio like Disney and Universal and MGM and so

like you know Yogi Bear would still be around, but there would suddenly be Nickelodeon stuff. Yeah. And like Wayne's World or like the Days of Thunder. I love the Days of Thunder motion simulator ride. And then for very briefly, a Richard Scarry restaurant.

Oh, really? I missed that. In this one or in King's Dominion? In King's Dominion. Oh, really? I missed that. In this one or in King's Dominion? In King's Dominion. Oh, okay. I think Nickelodeon had the cartoon for a number of years, so I think by that way, the Paramount connection. It seemed to me, I watched a compilation of ads,

and they seemed to assert, it seemed like one thing they were pushing is if you go to this paramount owned theme park and you get on a roller coaster there might be a klingon sitting next to you oh yeah that was in those uh in all those you remember that really did that hit you like well i want to do that i want to go on a ride so i remember going back to visit in the 90s and the one thing i regret now more than ever was not seeing i didn't see any klingons on any of the role like top gun or any of those rides which was a bummer but

not going to see the the star trek on ice uh like figure skating show oh yeah was that's like a huge huge regret you know that i i wish i had appreciated that back then like you know yeah that's insane yeah i have a clip called star trek ice uh it's a little low res in any dimension that it's come it's come up but we haven't done a lot because i saw it i saw the king that won a king's dominion okay how was it it was cool i mean you know it was people ice skating and like you know it doesn't make a lot of sense It doesn't make a lot of sense. It doesn't make a lot of sense. For Star Trek, but it does look kind of cool.

It looks cool. Good set. Good set we got here. But they're in the uniform. It looks like a throne in Star Wars. Yeah. More than it does Star Trek. Yeah, a little, especially with that window.

But it could be a Klingon thing or something. That's true. Yeah, you're right. It could be a different. Yeah, so play this at the start whenever just a little taste of what... They're playing the iconic Star Trek

theme. They got that much right. Which is, yeah, you need that. This could be on the holodeck or something. Oh, that's true too. And it's basically like you would imagine. People in Star Trek outfits just twirling around and doing all the things you do as an ice skater yeah heavy on the fog lots of fog yeah is it

imagining that there's an enterprise with an ice floor is that the idea here well after this and I don't have a clip of it but after this they switch to like a very dark like people flying portion of it where it seems like they're like representing the stars and like it's a very each one of them is an M class planet or something yeah they switch from crew members to planets

they kind of abandon like a traditional narrative right away and they go into something that's maybe more just like a ethereal sort of feeling. Abstract kind of. Abstract. This is a daring show.

Yeah. Must have won awards, I'd imagine. Won Tony's, I think. Would have to, yeah. We haven't done, I guess we haven't done, we've done a couple, we did the Mario on Ice a couple months ago. As we determined, there's more with Ice Capades. Ice Capades in general, we need to do more of, too.

I saw Ewoks on Ice when I was a, we need to do more of, too. I saw Ewoks on Ice when I was a kid. I don't even know that one. Ewoks on Ice? Yeah, oh, yeah. That was somewhere in Toronto. Really? Yeah, probably in like 85 or 86, maybe.

Was it? Ewoks on Ice was fantastic. Did it feel like Return of the Jedi, or was it more cartoony? Oh, this was like cartoon. Oh, here, I see a TV ad. Oh, yeah, there's a little. Oh, wow. Oh, this looks good. We might have to do cartoon. Oh, here I see a TV ad. Oh, yeah. There's a little. Oh, wow. Oh, this looks good.

We might have to do this. Yeah, we do have to do that. Wow. Oh, yeah. Those go. The suits look good. Yeah. There was.

They had all kinds of like those crazy ice shows back in the day. Like. Yeah. Everything. Yeah. An ice show. Might. I don't want to go giving you more toy ideas, but ice skating Ewoks.

Oh, yeah. I know. Well, that's they just what hasbro is doing some new ewoks that are a little more cartoony i feel like i think they just showed a few things that are like kind of like the ewoks cartoon or droids like yeah like they've done um yeah they've done a few things like there's a boba fett i think that's like yes either from like the droids episode or like the holiday special episode maybe oh cool real quick real quick um back to the turtles what's happened now is that you guys

have ruined me for other toy lines in the sense that like x-men buying x-men i'm like well i would like an x-men in the style of joe manorera i would like x-men style of this yeah so now i'm ruined forever because of uh the turtles yeah i've done yeah there's there's two ways to kind of design those toy lines you know where it's you can do kind of like a i don't know like just a generic looking version of like the characters or you can kind of go like like source material specific um and like companies like uh DC direct, they would do these like, you know, um, Darwin cook figures or like Jack Kirby, like new God stuff. And I just always loved when like, you'd get like a, you know, Jim Lee Batman or something.

So yeah, it was, that'd be great to get some really cool, like Joe mad X-Men or yes. Cause they kind of did it in like old toy biz. I have a few of them back in the day they were certainly inspired by yeah there's a few there's yeah one of my favorite Green Goblins is um based on the Humberto Ramos drawings yes there's a really cool that was yeah that was toy biz like way back they did a couple there was like Storm with the big hair and like the two-piece outfit yeah there was there was like that monster series where like yeah yeah wolver they were all they had kind of like clip-on like mutant armor like kind of monster pieces they were

those were definitely more um you know artist specific like sculpts um that's very cool we've talked before on the show about like because i kind of feel like collector wise there is something that if they were made everybody would become like a completist i'm not fully pleased with turtles but i'm close like scott we think we figured out that if it was like 80s architecture if people recreated like 80s shopping malls or office buildings yeah i'm not well and i'll bring toronto into it if i if i could get a really well done eaton center or cn tower or sky Dome I would just like a play set or something

or just like a little model I would take almost any size yeah I'm trying to I mean of course I would love a Technodrome size but I'll take whatever what's the other plate the CNE

like the Expo Center or something? What is that? That's somewhere in, I think it's around Toronto. They would have like Maple Leaf Wrestling. Is there an arena or a convention center more so? It's more like a, I think it's an outdoor convention center place. Okay. But I think it's right around where like Sky Dome.

Oh, it's in that sort like Sky Dome and oh it's that sort of yeah I don't know if I could get a Sky Dome with a retractable roof which again that's like I have you ever seen the opening of the Sky Dome with Alan Thicke oh with Alan oh my god with Alan Thicke no I was gonna say yeah like I'd been to Blue Jays games and stuff, but I wasn't there with Alan Thicke. I mean the first opening of this guy, the first time they ever opened it where there is an original long musical number sung by Alan Thicke and Andrea Martin, I believe. They had to make a long, long Broadway style song about retractable ceilings. How many different ways can we reframe lyrics to focus on retractability? It feels like how they, you know, there's that thing of like 50s and 60s trade show musicals.

Everything's coming to profits. Yes. It felt like a throwback to that. We have a long song about how, and it could be open when the sun is out and it can be closed when, and then the whole thing was, all right, now let's open it.

And it was raining so hard and they already had scheduled like skydivers who had to dive into the skydome in the rain. So there's tarps everywhere. Big disaster. That's some of the best I'm no expert I'm not from there but in terms of Canadian entertainment I've seen the sky dome

that's one of oh that sounds great it's so funny I wonder how long like after you hit the open button I wonder how long it takes to like if you oh this is a bad idea we should close it and then you hit the close button like how long does it take to reset that you know how like uh pretty mighty i think and especially what in you know like once it starts 90 maybe once it starts moving yeah i think we're talking half an

hour at least unless maybe wait maybe i'm underestimating it close it close it it's still got 15 minutes of like resetting and slowing down it has to be. And if you panic and press the button a bunch of times really fast, each one of those was a different, now it has to close a little bit, and then open a little bit. It's like the biggest garage door on Earth. You can't stop it at certain points like a garage door. No, it's either it's all the way forward or it's all the way. It's like two spots where it could pause.

Yep, yep. That's tricky. Tricky retractable ceilings. But anyway, I would like a detailed play set it could pause yeah yeah yeah that's tricky tricky retractable ceilings uh but anyway if i could i would like a play set a detailed play set of all the everyone present at the opening of the sky dome in 1990 we should do that maybe i'm getting the year wrong but uh um yeah again i look i'm just spitballing i can't okay start demanding these things but i you know demand you want to see it too yeah no um jason of course wants a complete set of

original Little Rascals I think completely who's your favorite Little Rascal that's I mean I feel like everyone is everyone going to say Alfalfa yeah probably if you have to pick between Joe Cobb

and Chubby Chaney I don't think I can go that deep. Do you know Brisbane? Brisbane's great. Is that your favorite? These are expanded rascals. Is this like the Curly Joe, like Three Stooges type rascals? He's way better.

I did watch a little rascal short recently because it came on a DVD. Trying to remember what I was watching a bunch of the Preston Sturgis movies, but I also watched the Broadway melody of there were four of them. One was just in 1929. They just called it Broadway melody. It won best picture that year. And it's incredibly upsetting because it's a sound it's a talkie but they are still figuring out how to do that so it's just a little weird

this is brisbane that's brisbane oh brisbane looks like a bruiser i don't want to make his mouth is he's got like his lips is all like hey i'm just died how dare you um jason does like little rest because i i will full disclosure that's not maybe his top pick I was more of a joke so I don't want to make him look like he was trying to pretend he was an expert and he wasn't Scott is the truly the building do you have an answer for though what you're no I just I was trying to figure out

in one of the these Broadway Melody movies are not very long and by the last one Fred Astaire's in it the last a few of them have Eleanor Powell who they call the queen of tap dancing. She's a very good tap dancer. But every one of these DVDs had the other shorts that would pad out, like a two-hour runtime.

And one of these DVDs I watched just had a 25-minute movie called the stars in Palm Springs. And it's just walking around this property and it's like, Oh look, there's Catherine Hepburn. She's hitting the links. And, uh, and that was it.

But there was a little rascal short where they're like, we want to make a movie and then we want to screen the movie. That was the plot of it. That was the plot of it. And, uh, hijinks. And so one of them gets their feet stuck in wet cement and can't make it to the screening well that's a so that's a accessory you need you want regular feet and you want cement feet yeah oh no they're putting on a little play

so it's like the play is held up because I think Buckwheat is stuck outside the little junkyard theater and like can't get in to do the, you know, play. You know what's a good, sorry, I'm jumping all over the place here, but I'm realizing now a couple years ago I asked listeners on Twitter how much they would pay for an action figure of Jason. And overwhelmingly they said, I think $50 are over. So they were pay for an action figure of Jason. And overwhelmingly, they said, I think, $50 or over. So they were talking for a premium. Overwhelmingly? I believe so. How many people said they would pay over $50 for a Jason action figure? I'm going to look this up.

I just totally remember this. Don't tell yourself, sure. I think we were talking about all three of us. Well, we were, but I think my first question to the listener was just Jason as far as an action figure was concerned. Yeah. We can do the you're the most toy the word is toyetic right of things and jason is the most toyetic of the three

of us i think okay but i think if anyone's after a jason action figure and until we get our act together and do it in the meantime i have found there are little rascals action figures and i think you could just start with spanky and say it's Jason. I mean just pretend. Okay. He and I both get into lots of hijinks. Yeah yeah. Well you just okay he seems to come his accessory is a hammer he's got a hammer in his hand so just take

out that hammer and put in a big old blunt. And then it's now we're talking Jason. That's Jason. I is that your answer? Is it? Wait, we still don't know. What's your- Oh, I said Alpha Alpha.

It's my polar opposite. Very skinny, very tall. No, I mean, what action figures do you want? Is it Broadway melodies? Oh, yeah. I would take like Fred Astaire and Gene Kelly. Like I would take a pair. There's only like one or two movies where they were

ever in it together one is called Ziegfeld Follies and I think one of the That's Entertainment compilations they do a number together. The Ziegfeld Follies series would be good. I just sent you a picture because I just got the Invisible Man and I said

this is my first Claude Rains figure. And I was very excited. I sent it to Jason. Yeah. And I thought, before I looked at the picture, I thought it was going to be a Casablanca series. Right. What do you mean? This is my first Claude Rains figure.

You said that like that was not a really weird thing to say. My first Claude Rains figure. I knew what I was doing. This is a private communication between Jason and I. I shared it and I'm being ridiculed. It's a flip of a coin, I think, of do you associate Claude Rains with Casablanca or Invisible Man? Yeah, I mean. Or the third side of the coin, do you not really know who Claude Rains is?

Oh, he was a killer. He was great. He was in Notorious, I believe, right? The Hitchcock movie? I think so. He's in a lot of stuff, though. Yeah. My girlfriend and I call it the Four Jorleys,

but that's not the name of the movie. It's like Four Sisters or something. He's the dad of like... Oh, yeah. They filmed it on the Warner Brothers lot. The house that's on this one corner is like their house. I've never seen i know i know you're talking about we were watching like all these old movies like when the pandemic started

and like yeah claude reigns is great he is great when we got that universal uh license i was immediately just like asking if like oh when are we going to do like edward van sloan i just started naming like all of the like uno o'connor and like wait who's uno o'connor una o'connor she's she's like the crazy lady in invisible man that's like she works in the like in that bar the restaurant and when she starts seeing stuff moving she like freaks out and i think she's in like they used her a few times like ghost of frankenstein or one of the later frankenstein movies like she's always like like the like the old barmaid or something

but I just wanted to get the license like the likeness rights for all of those like really really really old like character actors yes you know everyone else just wanted like let's make Dracula and Frankenstein's monster boring you know but it was like oh we gotta do

detailed like we gotta do all the other characters that like, you know, are classic in the movie that like no one's ever done figures for. Yeah, yeah. But then you got to find out who owns the estates and whatever. That's part of your job, right?

Sometimes finding and getting rights. Yeah, that's more of my boss, Randy. That's more of his job. But yeah, that's part of it when you're making figures is like, you know, you got to figure out like, because a lot of the time you know star wars like lucas got everyone's likenesses sort of like he had that master plan for merchandising and like every other movie is just not really structure down not really those faces like sometimes it does like we were able to do um like we could

we did a bunch of Rocky figures from the Rocky movies but then like we can't do Carl Weathers from like Predator cause it's like the Predator movie we can only do like Arnold and the Predators so every movie is like structured differently you know but you've done Carl Weathers

wow as Apollo Creed wow wow any other dreams and any other that just calls to mind that question like like any property that like that's the one maybe like unrealistic dreams yeah yeah oh unrealistic it would be making like like maria ospenskaya and like probably like we're doing like we do mashup figures of like the turtles and the universal monsters like that's another subcategory of like all the turtle stuff and it's like i have those don't point at me like i'm not oh you know what you look if you want to show it to me you look it up i do want to show it to you but yeah there's there's a lot of... Look it up. I don't know what another dream license would be.

I've said a couple times, I'd love to work on... A lot of it is just 80s stuff. The 80s cartoons that I liked, like Brave Star or Centurions. There's stuff like that. Thank you for looking at those. All right, they do look cool.

They are cool. That is Raphael Frankenstein. I see. Thanks for moving your fingers around. Yeah, of course. Well, this was just in the way, so it was hard for me to get there. I can't imagine, though. It's worth the journey to show me, right?

It was. I agree. Trying to, like, all those old, like, now classic, like, B-movies and stuff, like, like, Plan 9 from Outer Space. nine from outer space like there there's no there's no paperwork it's a miracle there's any prints of those movies right do you know yeah those are those are tricky or they can be tricky too because it is just such a mess sometimes to know who owns what and someone might have like distribution rights and then someone else is like retaining like oh yeah

you know the the characters or the name or the story or something you know it's like stuff gets like sliced up like a bunch of different ways and there's all kinds of disputes and sure even like the big budget like like let's say double indemnity it's like okay well we have to figure out what movie studio had that and yeah what distributor and then we have to find who has fred mcmurray and barbara stanwick's license uh yeah licenses you know my friend my friend was saying because i was really obsessed or i'm was am really obsessed with the idea of getting a really accurate aunt harriet figure from the 60s batman oh that's that's a dream of mine yeah that. That would be great.

And I was like, who owns the Madge Blake estate? Yeah. My friend's like, you know what? You would be the perfect, that's your perfect job is going to find out and talk to like Madge Blake's great granddaughter and convince her that we need to have a figure of her. There,

there was, we did, we did a couple like Batman 66 things a few years ago. And cause, cause it, that was one thing that it took Warner brothers forever to like, that was a great example of like CBS on this or Fox on that. It was,

and they finally got it. We, we had this list of like, um, these are all the actors that you can't like there's Frank Orshan and like all the main characters, all the main villains, but they had likeness,

right. Approvals for a bunch of the main villains, but they had likeness, right. Approvals for a bunch of the guest stars. And they, they gave us this huge list of every, everyone we could potentially do. I'd love to go back and see if like aunt Harriet was like on that list or not. Cause there was, there was, there was some stuff. It was like, we were obviously never going to get to this, but that show just with all of the guest stars i think it was just like a nightmare forever to yeah you know to work out the likeness rights my dream is liberace's character shandell shandell we said at the same time wow i'm so glad you guys got

together this is important it is yeah i found it real quick uh 43 percent of out of 900 people voting said they would want a deluxe style jason at 30 to 50 dollars or the other the other choices uh yes basic style like 15 to 25 dollars 33 percent and then no i love jason but no 24 okay fair enough so but still bucks we could get a lot of stuff in there you make it really a lot of lot of fun... Yeah, it would be a fun figure. What are the other Jason accessories? Slim Jim, snack cakes, you know? From what I understand and my limited knowledge about toys

is that once the mold is made, we can do a lot of different variants of you. Sure. And mash him up with the... All right, you know, the turtles are mashed up with the classic monsters. He could be mashed up with the classic monsters. Oh, yeah.

And we're doing monsters, too. Are you had the uh we did the the rob zombie one yes oh i showed you yeah oh so you're responsible for the daniel roebuck grandpa we did the count i mean the count we did an episode about the late shift which of course daniel roebuck plays jay leno yeah oh yeah uh because sc Scott and I specifically are obsessed with that movie. And then we were just doing – there's so much Munster talk. And then all of a sudden like eight months ago, it was like, did you know that Daniel Roebuck is playing Grandpa Munster? Because we did an episode about Grandpa's restaurant from New York where he like was just a greeter at an Italian restaurant in New York. Billy West has got great stories about that place

yes yeah yeah those are really great so yeah that was shocking when we learned uh that so anyway yeah we'll we'll talk off air about getting the jason in the tuxedo jason in the yeah uh wait his the the fake uh prom tux the fake photo tuxedo and then separately the the tuxedo? The fake yearbook photo tuxedo and then separately the tuxedo you were talking about earlier? Sure. Bathrobe. Bathrobe Jason? Different soft good.

Do we get shirtless Jason from when you weirdly took your shirt off at that live show? Well, I kept saying I was going to change and I just didn't. I was like, I don't think they know I'm going to take my shirt off. We can do a garlic scented one.

Oh yeah. Get a Chuck E. Cheese sponsorship. Yeah. Little bits of slime, little covered in slime. You know, Chuck E. Cheese is still around. It's not exactly the same as when we were kids, but I don't know that they're giving away garlic goo anymore. This is our chance.

We have to bring it back. The only way we're getting garlic goods out into the market again. Yeah. Yeah. That's too bad. Brett, could you bring up the picture? It says, I think it's, hold on. It says Canada's Wonderland Friends on it.

Because I just think this is such a great picture. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Look at that. Look at these friends. Well, what friends do we see? We got Yogi. We got Scooby.

We got Huckleberry. got george george back there jabberjaw jabberjaw jabberjaw is great jabberjaw was the best um on the uh there was a carousel and it was all like hannah barbara characters and like fred was like there's a picture of this there's like a caboose or something but like you could just sit on jabber jaw's tail like it would sort of like curl over oh that's and that was always like the number one like go to i gotta get to jabber jaw and like kids would just like brett canada's wonderland merry-go is the name of the file we have a picture of it um here also some jabber jaw paintings at the dolphin show there it is yeah see so

you could sit on like Yogi's lap you could go to Fred's like caboose thing but Jabberjaw was just the greatest you'd sit there and look up and have this huge mouth towering over you yeah that's cool so you can either sit on Yogi's lap

or Fred has some very I'll be honest, modern looking car. Yeah. It doesn't quite fit with the bedrock. Yeah. And it says Scoobyville. It's a car that belongs somewhere else. They all get along.

They mix up regardless of what time period. It's like a weird MCU kind of thing where they're all. They're all together. Yeah. Fred is kind of like peeping in the window of the car too in a weird way. Yeah. He's not witnessing a murder yeah he seems like he's caught in the act of looking into this modern day

scooby car whatever modern contraption yeah he may be just confused by it maybe all right bud you killed my wife and then i'll kill your life wife and then we don't know each other it's the full Flintstones Strangers on a Train. That was going to be the second Flintstones and Jetsons movie, I think, right? Oh, that full genre exploration. Yeah, that's great.

A train that has to be pushed. They have to pull off the murder but also push the train. So it takes a lot of feet to do an entire train and train um so yeah your favorite was the jabber jaw oh yeah car great great what are we just like rides wise oh yeah like i mean we're talking about a zillion things but like is there a is there anything where like well if we're talking canada's winterland you can't let

that pass oh well yeah my my favorite place to go was the uh smurf uh smurf village or smurf forest okay something like that and there was it was it was a little different than the one in king's island in cincinnati that i guess there's almost i couldn't find hardly any pictures of the Smurf village. But I remember it being like a walkthrough and it was all like indoors. And they had these little vignettes set up where you're like in the Smurf like village. And eventually you end up at Gargamel's castle. And it turns into like a fun house where like it's got crooked floorboards and everything. And so you're going

through you're creeping through these hallways kind of zigzag around and like you just peek through these windows and there'd be like gargamel and azrael like making some potion or something you know and uh there's like strobe lights and lightning and all this disorienting stuff um but yeah it was it was like like you guys remember like the viewmasters you know they had the little discs it was it was like walking through a viewmaster because every room was just like one of these scenes wow you know and it was just that to me was the it was the greatest thing and it like when you're outside um just walking around the smurf forest there you know there's like giant snails.

So you're like the size, you're three apples high, like a Smurf. You're just transported into this magical world. And there's Smurfs like on the trees, like kind of hanging up signs and welcome to Smurf village or whatever. So that area I loved as a kid. And then, boy, what was better than that?

I can't think. That sounds great. Yeah. Gargamel's castle was just like the coolest part. It was just so awesome. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know that.

There was, there was a whole bedrock area. Uh, there was a, they had, they had like a, an aquarium, like a little aquarium thing with like seals.

And I know, I remember going there with my cousins one time and it was like the first time my cousin had seen like a seal and thought it was a guy in a suit because there was just no way an animal could like, I don't know, play basketball or whatever, whatever the, the, you know, it was just, but we were telling him that like, this is like a creature, you know? Right. Yeah. To, uh, when, when you you were like did you ever i guess since you were so little when you started going there was it did you get like bored by it ever no i don't ever remember really getting bored you always felt like the magic was there oh for sure yeah yeah definitely i just found something it seems to be called the the heritage

kids there's these did you ever? Oh, these are the giant head things that kind of look like Funko Pops. These are horrifying. Those are really scary. Yeah, big squarish heads. They're kind of in the Cabbage Patch family, but the heads are massive compared to them. And they look really like pensive and upset. Yeah, they're upset. Not one of them is smiling.

They look like precious memories. Oh, totally. Is that what they're called? Those ceramics? Yeah, yeah. And Cabbage Patch. And they're happy. These guys are all Yeah, yeah. And they're happy. These guys are all like they seem upset, and they're all like side-eyeing each other. Like, do you want to be here? No.

Do you want to be here? Yeah. I remember the Hanna-Barbera land. Those guys might have been in another part of the park. You stayed out of that territory. That was like the scary area. Oh, you never saw a heritage kid digging their head off backstage did you if i did it's all like buried deep

somewhere yeah if you unlock it you'll just start screaming yeah it'll be like nightmares like that woman in the lowest oboe yeah yeah oh heritage kids yeah are they still around the heritage kids it's a bad sounding name i hope they burnt those costumes it sounds religious The Heritage Kids. Are they still around, the Heritage Kids? It's a bad sounding name. I hope they burnt those costumes. It sounds religious. I was going to ask if there, I forgot I had answered my own question. I was going to ask if there was a Yogi's Cave, but I think by the time you might have been going, that was flipped to the Smurfs area. Yeah, so that, I also, just looking up stuff for this thing, it was like, it started the first year or two,

it was like Yogi's Cave, which I do not remember that at all. And then, yeah, probably by 83, maybe they had switched it over to like the Smurfs and you get like blue ice cream. Yeah. Oh, wow. That kind of fun stuff. That stuck around.

The Yogi's Cave at King's Dominion stuck around until the 90s, and I forget what eventually cleared it out, but the Smurfs were in another part of the park. You had both. Yeah, so for a time, there was both, is the way I remember it. That's great.

In my years developing object permanence. I wish there was a couple pictures where it looks like they had like Ranger Smith's cabin and stuff. It looked like cool. I wish I remembered anything about that. I think a lot of that converted to Gargamel's house. Probably, yeah.

The Smurf Forest and everything, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Sometimes you just wish you had a time machine and you'd go back. Oh, yeah. Oh my God. That occurred to me that like, yeah, I mean, we think that all the time.

Like, you know, do we go to some amazing thing in history? No. I would like to see Disneyland Tomorrowland in 1986. I would waste time machine for sure on like really specific theme park slivers. Yeah. But it definitely occurred to me. Like what you got early 80s. I mean, you were really little then, but early eighties, Toronto theme park. Yeah.

I feel I would like this, this, this would be in, in, in my top 10. Yeah. It was, I,

in another just vague memory, I remember seeing like that live He-Man like stage show. Oh yeah. Like they have. Yeah. Like I remember going to some kind of like live he-man thing and it just blowing my mind like it was i i remember there was a there was like an act break or something where there's there's like a battle with like he-man and skeletor and there's like some kind of freeze

sword or something and like skeletor had this sword and like touched he-man with it he-man froze the whole stage just turned blue like this ice cold blue like music everything just stopped and that was like intermission or something and i was just like oh my god like what yeah it was like maybe five i was just like what the hell is gonna happen to he-man are we okay are we are and are like are we gonna die yeah are we next that's the like that's what i that's like my moment seeing the turtles live when I was whatever little. And Shredder's like, I've locked the doors. You can't get out.

And then it was like intermission and we left. Get some popcorn. Yeah. And I was like, wait a minute. Maybe he meant the other doors. Like the outside doors. Yeah. Yeah.

Because I was trying to make sense of what he just said because we went through the doors. But I was legitimately like, well, this guy's going to kill us. Yeah. We're dead. And you can now with the action figures which i'm hold it like i got michelangelo here you could do dark coming out of our shells where like yeah like okay the intermission's over you come back in you come back in just in time for the monitor to turn on and like oh good you're here and then he does shred michelangelo's face yeah like you watch michelangelo's

face get cold yeah yeah everyone all right eyes on the screen kitties oh my god they're killing him in front of us it's really it would be kind of a therapeutic thing i think because it's an unresolved issue in my head yes because i still was some closure? Yes. Because I still was like, thought it was real, and I wasn't old enough to know it wasn't. So maybe if I play out some of these nightmare scenarios, maybe I'll be a better adult man. Yeah. That's what we're making this stuff for.

Yeah, right. Thank you so much. They help you get over your childhood. Certainly they don't make you stay in it forever. You know what? Swim in it. No, no, no, no, no. I just go in there and stare every night.

Nothing's weird about it. Lights on, boys. You know what? Do your show, turtle friends. Well, I'm not there at like 1 a.m. rearranging things. That's not what I do. Out here when there's an earthquake i always stop and listen and like how many toys fell over like yes you know oh sure oh this wasn't a bad

one because i only heard like yes and sometimes i can pinpoint like i'm pretty sure that was like spider-man that i knew was like kind of dangling on a ledge or something right weak legs is the way anyway yeah those ankle joints will go you know what i'm trying to think is that you did the four turtles for the coming out of our shells uh in that video it's the is it the behind the scenes with your guy dave rubric oh yes yes yeah yeah so we've talked about that too you've checked that would be again oh absolutely oh absolutely it'd be the first it'd be the first time my wife bought an expensive action figure

oh great Dave Rubrik yeah and you can do variants supermodels sweet Dave different sweaters different sweaters

actually doing just like generic like trying to do like the you know not specific contestants but like meld all the contestants

oh yeah just into a couple like base bodies or something yeah yeah yeah and then do each type of sweater yeah yellow peach but like meld all the contestants. Oh yeah. Just into a couple like base bodies or something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then do a,

each type of sweater. Yeah. Yellow peach or I forget what they were, but, and they can all come with a different, like, you know, like here's a big inflatable,

jolly green giant. And that goes for a hundred dollars. Cause you guys have done that. We're like the turtle whack. You guys, what called turtle wax to get the official rights to use it as a little toy oh wow we did that so you could do this

easy oh sure this is a good one what were you going to say though but there was something else with rubric oh I don't know I was just saying all the version I think I said what I had to say about Dave rubric so okay well you could do yeah you do rubric on supermarket suite and rubric the behind the scenes host of the coming out of rubric Is it Rubrecht?

Was I saying his name wrong? I'm not sure. Rubrecht, Dave Rubrecht. Correct us. We'll accept it. We need to learn. He's an important figure. We need to learn.

That would be, I mean, residual payments are such a crapshoot nowadays. That would be great for actors, you know, just the likeness rights for action figures, another revenue stream you know sure yeah and especially if yeah you were you hosted a game show in the early 90s or mid 80s and I'm sure all of those companies have protected you from having your image exploited yeah sure you'll be completely properly

you will get some money for the line of Emily reasons why not the two three episode Heather Graham sitcom or drama from the 2000s yeah reached

way in you know we talked so much about let's finish I guess finish up for now the thoughts on Canada's Wonderland because we were talking also about you've been to Popeye Village I have yeah so I haven't even touched it. So we obviously will have to do it again. But if there's any wrapping up thoughts about Canada's Wonderland,

and then you did say there was a specific story about Popeye's Village, maybe you could tell. Oh, yeah, sure. So we can do that. So Canada's Wonderland. Jason, facts? Do you have more facts? Oh, no.

I think we touched upon it. You said the facts? All right, no. I think we touched upon it. I mean, it's a big coaster park, and it was Hanna-Barbera and Paramount. Coaster called The Bat, where the TV ad starred Joe Flaherty from SCTV. Wow. That's a hell of a get. Yeah, that's cool. That's a Canadian great.

He's Count Floyd or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of those great characters. And I think radio ads with john candy and maybe one maybe levy or one of the others so you're like the you know the canadian comedy greats are represented by the park yeah the first celebrity i ever met was at canada's wonderland who's that kit the car wow oh hell yeah wow oh my god an appearance wow some nbc day or something and whoa yeah kit was there and i got to like i'm pretty sure i got to sit in the driver's seat they had it the door

is open you take a picture i have a picture that's somewhere i gotta wow did he talk there was a david hasselhoff um like, on the dashboard TV. There was, like, a loop of him just sort of. Of David talking, not Kit. Or of Kit talking. No, no, of David. Yeah, Michael Knight. Wow, gotcha.

And then, yeah, the A-Team van was there. Oh, jeez. They had all these at Universal Studios, but this is a whole other corporate structure. They had to make a special, like, the toys, a special deal to get them over to Canada's Wonderland. yeah they took them across the border and like yeah it was great yeah yeah kit was like and i uh when i was a couple kit showed up at the mattel booth at san diego comic-con like i don't know a bunch of years ago but i was like hey dude remember me like i saw you at like i met you at canada's wonderland uh

in 1984 or whatever you were always my favorite trevor i wondered when you would return yeah i don't remember if there's any like if there's a william daniels voice or not there might have been or just a that was definitely like yeah they had had that thing going on up front. Yeah, that was great. That would be a good like donkey. You know, you have donkey at Universal and there's a performer doing it. You could just have Kit and there was a performer somewhere that would talk to people. I was like, well, at Universal, don't the Transformers do that?

Yes. Like Megatron, there's a guy on a microphone that'll just like interact. Is it recorded lines or is it actually somebody with a mic? No, it's a Like Megatron will like... There's a guy on a microphone that'll just like interact. Is it recorded lines or is it actually somebody with a mic? No, it's a guy. It is a guy. It's a guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh-huh.

Because it felt... I tried to say... I think I said I tried to say I love you to one of them and it didn't feel like they reciprocated it. Uh-oh. That may have been the problem. You're going to need another therapy toy. You're going to have to go buy a...

Yeah. Buy a Megatron. And I wasn't even a Transformers kid. Oh, dear. Wow. But the ride means so much to me. But now you weren't a Transformers kid, but now your validation centers on being seen by Optimus Prime. Yeah.

But no, that's not what I told myself is that it must be pre-recorded messages so they wouldn't be able to say something personal back to me. They didn't record an I love you because they thought it'd be weird. They hadn't met me. I would show them that it's be pre-recorded messages so they wouldn't be able to say something personal back to me. They didn't record an I love you because they thought it'd be weird. If they hadn't met me, I would show them that it's not weird. Yeah. So that's how I got through the day up until now. That's all ripped wide open.

Yeah. I mean, I got nothing. I mean, I want to hear this Popeye Village thing. We should wind it down, but yeah. Yeah. So we did an episode, but we haven't talked about it in a while. From the movie, the Robert Altman movie, Popeye village thing. I'm sure we should wind it down, but yeah. Yeah. So, so you went to, so we've talked, we did an episode, but we haven't talked about in a while if from the movie, the Robert Altman movie Popeye,

they built all these crazy sets in Malta in Europe. They're still there. They're just there and they turned it into a park. A theme park kind of? There's still the, yeah, it's, it's a, it's a theme, not a theme. Well, yeah, it's like a theme park. Like you pay an admission to get in and um there's about when i went in 2019 like just right before the pandemic started i was like october

2019 and uh we took a family trip out there because my last name is maltese like my my dad's dad he was from Malta, came to Canada. So we had always heard about Malta and just like never, my mom just, we should just, it was there, my mom, my parents like 40th wedding anniversary or something. And so she was like, let's go to Malta, like have a big trip or whatever. So, so I said, well, if we're going to Malta, we have to go to Popeye's village. Like that was the number one thing I wanted to do there. So, um, yeah, so we went and it was, that was the last thing we did. We were there for two weeks and that was the last thing we did on the trip on the last day. And, and, uh, we spent the day there and it was like, it's seriously like the

happiest place I've, it was just the greatest place i've ever been wow um there was just enough um it's not like one of those weird derelict parks where everything's run down and it's all shambly and like falling apart and stuff like there was just enough of like they were keeping it up but just kind of barely you, there's like five people working there. And like, it was just, it was just, it was just this wonderful place. And yeah, so we spent, we spent the day there. There was a guy's Popeye walking around and a guy's Bluto walking around. And then I had like the, the pamphlet in my hand. Everyone was like, we were having lunch and I was like, oh my God, like the, the one 15 puppet show is happening right now. I was like we were having lunch and i was like oh my god like the the 115 puppet show is happening right now i was like i gotta go and i was like who's going to the puppet show

with me and they were like we don't care like no so so i i just ran up the street it's like i think it's in um it's in the the family room of uh um of where olive oil lived like in the movie it's like olive oil's house or something it's at the end of the street with castor oil yeah yeah and uh and so there's this so i i walk into the already happening like puppet show and um and it's like me and a couple of kids and maybe like one parent was you know they're, it's just the idea of like this puppet show happens like every half hour, every day, like there's maybe two people show up. Maybe there's just nothing going on. Right. And, uh, and when I was like, oh, this is great. So they're doing these like Popeye voices and stuff. And then, uh, and when the show's over the puppet, the puppeteers like come out from behind the curtain and it's just the guy in the Popeye suit

like he was it was him and the girl playing like olive oil or something were the puppeteers so like he didn't change no they didn't change so then and when they were done they put the puppets away and then they went back outside and did like photos with people and then like you know it's just like it's just Wimpy was probably at the grill like making hamburgers because there's there's no one else that works there and then we i i just my friend is like a huge popeye fan and so i just i pretty much bought up the entire gift shop when we left and like the guy was just like no this has never happened before like maybe they sell like a spoon or a t-shirt i bought like everything in there for me and all my popeye obsessed friends and uh

yeah it was it was just the greatest place but um but yeah so one of my friends uh he's he's a buddy of uh of eric bouses they all work in animation together when we were in um when we were in college uh the only like art project my friend Pez ever finished was painting Popeye's face on the toilet seat of our apartment of our bathroom like our apartment so and he did such a great job it was cool and then more Popeye stuff just started going into this bathroom and then um and then you know we moved and he like unbolted the toilet seat and took it with him and this Popeye bathroom has like been with him in like every house he's lived in wow and it's just and so more and more stuff is just like that's just where all his Popeye stuff goes and when I was at

Popeye's village in Malta, I was like, there's an actual Popeye bathroom I need to take. Because I brought my Mezco toys. And this is before the boss fight figures came out. So I was in the bathroom at Popeye's Village in Malta taking photos to get a nice framed beautiful Popeye bathroom photo for my friend's Popeye bathroom in Toluca Lake or Silver Lake, wherever he lives now.

Is this the photo you sent me of the Popeye bathroom? Yeah, the bathroom. I think that's the second or third version of that bathroom. Okay. Brett, I have in the Popeye folder, it says Popeye bathroom, but for some reason it's not loading. So maybe we'll have to just put it in later, but I have it on my phone here. There's a Popeye. Oh, there it is. Great.

Yeah, so that's from both sides. That's like both sides. There's how much? Like big towel, and then he's on the shower door, but then figures on every single nook and cranny of the... Wait, and the camera's blocking.

Oh, I see. The toilet seat says... That's the original toilet seat with the Popeye blocking oh i see the toilet seat that's the original toilet seat with the popeye it was the best popeye spinach the the the garbage can is a spinach can that he he decorated well it's not he decorated it to look like to look like a spinach can they look great um bonkers yeah he he did like i think those are like custom like vinyl you know stickers that he put on put on the shower door and everything. So, but yeah, he's like obsessed with Popeye. And I told him, I said, Popeye's Village is so amazing.

Like we need to just go back there. Like it's like Malta is a really fun place to visit, but it's the the icing on the cake is just going his sweet haven right on the coast yeah yeah sweet haven yeah popeye i cannot say enough good things about popeye's village because it is just like the craziest place is that your favorite theme park on the planet earth it's yeah it's it probably now that i've actually been there and like yeah it's probably that canada's wonderland's great kennywood is great um and then yeah popeye's village is just like the greatest place i've ever been oh damn we got a good vibe i mean looking at like big you know big plates of pasta and yeah weird like shit you know all the the Popeye gang dancing to the trolls

song and all that beautiful we've thought about it for years since we did the episode and yeah it's rightfully so it's so worth it like just going out there's there's a lot of cool stuff to see in Malta and it's such a small it's like three islands but they're you can get around them like real quick. But yeah, the Popeye's Village is just like that's the greatest place ever. Be honest, though. How was the bathroom? Bathroom was okay.

I'm glad that I got my pictures before. There was like a father and son that walked in on me. And I'm glad I was like finishing up with my photos like by the time they got in because I didn't know how I was going to explain that whole stupid story I just told you like so I have a friend uh he uh look there's a whole thing yeah he's got a bathroom toilet picture I think I have here if you see it under that list there's you sent me a lot of photos that were just yeah so yeah so that was the best photo I got of the actual I mean it's just kind of a regular bathroom but yeah it's but it's Popeye in like a, uh, you know, semi clean looking bathroom. Yeah.

There he is. Excellent focus shift. Oh, thank you. Yeah. Uh-huh. Um, well, we'll have to talk about Popeye village some other time or in depth. I guess so. Um, but, uh, I mean, what a wonderful journey from, from there to Canada's wonderland, to

the world of your wonderful Turtles toys. Trevor Zama, you survived podcast The Ride. Oh, my goodness. This has been wonderful. Let's exit to the gift shop. Anything you'd like to plug? I feel like we just maybe The Littlest Hobo. Is that on DVD now?

I guess, yeah. I mean, it's all on YouTube. Yeah, it is streaming. Yeah, I mean, it might be on a more legit streamer, i i've only watched it on youtube and nobody's pulled any of it and and if that show sounded interesting to anyone i will say the way i my way in and i swear i wasn't even looking for this it just happened to be the first one that i put on and i was like you're kidding this is where i landed it's an episode where there's a uh there's a kid in a wheelchair, and he's in a Frisbee competition. And I forget, but there's some drama with, I think he was in a car accident, and now

another one is forming. Now he maybe is going to get more paralyzed. I don't know. He's heading down a hill. The wheelchair is out of control, Mac and Me style, pre-Mac and Me. And Hobo knows what to do. He has to stop this. And then cut to what can only be

that the makers of Lil' Estobo just threw the dog at the kid in the wheelchair. Really? The dog's just mid-air. Wow. It's really sloppily with the wheelchair. They didn't have a puppet dog or a dummy or something? No, no, it's just the dog. just mid-air and just collides really sloppily with the wheelchair kid. It's like a dog? They didn't have like a puppet dog or a dummy or something? No, no. It's just the dog. Oh, dear.

So I hope he was fine. I hope they didn't have to get another London to do it again. London too. But then like... London was a good sport. He was a good sport. He wanted to. He cared about the craft, the work. He would have loved it. He'd be so happy that he went out doing a stunt.

But if that wasn't enough for you, that this crazy thing happens, that the kid has, it's either an older friend or an older brother, and he's kind of like a doofy Canadian teen, yeah? And Mike Myers, one of Mike Myers' first appearances. Wow. Wow. Yes, yeah, like 15. So he just is Wayne

he's so much more Canadian and just kind of like little bit burnout and yeah he's in this this crazy dog show wheelchair kid episode great half hour of television so I support your plug we gotta see more Little Estable content

on the show too yeah yeah we're looking for any we just the other day we're saying the show is now going to be about the ghost dog show topper i think now it's gonna like maybe there's just a catch-all premise for all of the various old dog i just this is like a little weird but i just bought there's i just found a movie last night just scrolling through imdb my girlfriend and I are like obsessed with Melrose Place right now. Oh, really? We just started season six. Okay.

Oh, cool. You know, there's always, you guys might know about some of this. We have this theory because we're watching these episodes and there'll be some guest, you know, actor for whatever. Oh, this guy, I know he's from Seinfeld or something. We start looking up their credits and like everyone that was on Melrose Place, you know, it was probably like had a guest spot on like 90210. But then they were also, they were always on Star Trek, like Next Gen or Voyager. Oh.

And they were always like a character on seinfeld and it was like there's oh really so so there must have been some casting crew or like a company that yeah that was just using the same bunch of people right wow um but triangle um but two of the guys two of the people from melrose place jack wagner and uh princess vespapa from because I don't know her real name from Spaceballs. They were in a dog movie together in 2003 called it has multiple names. So, you know, it's good. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

But it's called release. It's on the DVD cover. It's called Dog Gone. But then there's it has it's part of a series of like ghost dog movies i think and uh but i just anyways a long story short i just bought this dvd last night on ebay uh dog gone yeah wow but it's like that's there's almost nothing for it because like dog gone's been a few other movies like over the years oh daphne zuniga that's it yeah that's it it yeah so jack wagner did the song all i need do we know all i need just a little more time maybe i think i feel like he's like a soap actor he's great a graduate

of the universal tour guide program oh really which i was i did the tram tour and they would say like you know uh there you you can move on from this to a successful film and television career perhaps you've heard of Jack Wagner the star of Dog Gone the catchphrase on this DVD cover is this old dog just learned some

new tricks so they didn't really go very far it writes itself so know what's the so just quick google a dog phrase take the first result put it on the poster there was there was some dog movie that norm mcdonald did it did the voice of the dog oh yeah and it's just like the laziest like just it was probably another weird like a canadian production and Norm was like, okay, I'll do it. The world of dog, there probably is an entire podcast about dog movies. Some of them are too unwatchable.

I mean, there's a sub genre of just Christmas dog movies. Yeah, you're right. That's it. Which is the Venn diagram of, because certainly Christmas movies is a whole thing. It's its own thing. Dog movies. And there is, there's probably like a hundred christmas dog our friend john is in the wrestling dog movie russell madness where he wrestles a dog really yeah did they try to get russell mania and it was like too close yep yeah that's exactly what

happened they tried russell mania he said no not happening does he suplex or like um frog splash uh jack russell terrier i believe he splashes off the top rope a jack russell terrier macho man does that on the weird owl show oh yes yes i've seen that clip he drops the elbow on like a i don't know like a little animal yeah i remember that wow wow geez a lot of dogs, this is the runner at the end of the episode. It's dog peril, real or not. I think both of those dogs were much better off than London was in that wheelchair. Yeah.

I think early eighties, there's no gracefulness to throwing the dog. There's that classic clip from a no holds barred where like in the background, there's just like, they're riding down the street on like motorcycles. And in the background background there's a guy just tossing a dog like oh my god oh really yeah there is yeah it's that's yeah it sounds bad yeah it's really bad yeah because it's just it's so like what is happening like yeah wow geez uh um okay well again good to have you

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