Podcast: The Ride - Casey Jr. Circus Train with Jenny Nicholson LIVE At P:TR23

Episode Date: August 30, 2019

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The following live podcast is occurring in a hotel ballroom where we can't reveal ourselves dramatically while the music is playing, so we had to do it out of order. Thanks for bearing with us. Due to the presence of a hotel bar just a few feet away, it's distinctly possible that I, Scott, have been Chardonnay drunk for the last four hours. Yeah. Yeah. Uh...

Well, unlike D23, we... Unlike D23, we may not have the presence tonight of The Rock, Emily Blunt, Tom Holland, Tina Fey, Jamie Foxx, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Angelina Jolie, and everyone from Rise of Skywalker. But we do have Jenny Nicholson joining us tonight. Live, near, but not affiliated with the D23 Expo, it's Podcast the Ride! Yeah! What do we do during the theme? We've never faced this before. You're not worried about it. No, it's fine. It's almost over. I'm just turning it down. I feel like I've got to fill the theme. We've never faced this before. You're not worried about it.

No, it's fine. It's almost over. I'm just, I feel like I gotta fill the space. Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Hi, hi. Hello, Anaheim Hotel. Wow, everyone's here. Welcome to Podcast the Ride, live from a very bright hotel ballroom where we're here to tell you that divorce is not the end of your life. It's just the beginning. First things first, I want to talk to you all about converting U.S. dollars to Iraqi dinar.

Hey, but you know, a little bit of theme park bullshit before that. Sure. That's coming. Hey, thanks so much for coming out, everybody. Oh, my God. Thank you. Wow.

That's Scott Gairdner. Hey, hello. That's Jason Sheridan. Jason Sheridan. Thank you. Hi, Mike. Hi. Hi. Would anyone mind if I refill my AP sipper?

Would anyone be upset if I did that? Because what happens is... Hold on, Aaron. One second. The AP sipper... Who has an AP sipper in the room? There's a few. Okay. This one?

This specific one? So what the deal is is that you buy this and then it's like $15 and then you can get a refill for a dollar at certain places in Disneyland. But what I think is like they're trying to keep it like cool or warm. It's deceptively small. The sipper doesn't carry that much liquid.

There's sort of a second cup within the cup. I see what you're talking about. I filled it up and I said I'm going to be good to go. I drank all of it outside Jeez, I got a refill now. Thank you Aaron. Thank you so much. Oh, well, hey, thanks Aaron She's not gonna refill all of your sippers I mean, let's lay that rule down right now. But thanks for doing mics. Oh, my God. So who was at D23?

Round of applause, show of hands. All right. Well, that makes 50 of us and not the three of us up here. We didn't do it. Well, they wouldn't allow us to do it. Well, it wasn't that we, okay. I mean, we could have bought passes. But we were technically denied press passes. Twice.

We went back. Yes. We went, like, hey, yes, boo, boo. Boo. This whatever, this weird third-party company they give credentialing services to. That's real. That's real, right? I guess you would call it a credentialing service. If I, yeah, I guess. So like they, yeah, there's a whole form you have to fill out and you have to explain who you are and

it feels really sad. And then, so then they rejected Jason. Jason and I applied and they rejected us. And then I, a couple of weeks later, I was like, I'm going to try again. I'm like, I'm really upset. So I went in and I just emailed and I said, hey, you know, I found the form a bit limiting. So, and I believe that is exactly what I wrote. And then I really did a desperate like, you know, last month on our Twitter, Michael Eisner retweeted us. And so.

Hell yeah. And. That may have been worse. You mentioned Eisner. That is true. Like, no, absolutely not. We had Al Lutz take care of that fucker. We had Al Lutz fucking double tap that guy.

Wow. That's what we're really here about. We're here to get to the bottom of the Al Lutz conspiracy. Has everyone been following? Yeah. Everyone stand up, present your theories. We'll give you all 10 minutes at the mic. After about three Medium posts and 30 pages of message board posts,

I was no closer to the truth than when I began. I don't even want to start explaining to a layperson what it all is, because where you wouldn't get there. It would take the entire amount of time we're going to be in here to explain it all. So never mind. Either you're in the Al Lutz Conspiracy Club or you're not. It's what a cool club. Just out of curiosity, of the people who know what we're talking about,

who believes the Medium Post? No one? Follow-up question. Who cares? Who cares? A couple people care. Two, three, okay. Five carers.

Five carers. Five carers. Should we bring up somebody who did go to D23, who did make it behind the golden gates? Yes, and got a media badge. Oh. I don't think I'm telling a tale out of school, am I? Well, we'll see. Maybe she's mad.

Yeah, so let's bring her up. Yes, one of our favorite guests, and you know her from her amazing YouTube channel, Jenny Nicholson. Jenny Nicholson. Oh, boy. You are now the second new Epcot Mickey ear hat wearer in the room. There's another one of those around.

That's great. Yeah. You come bearing brand new merch, wearing brand new merch. Yeah. Information and merch. All the good stuff. You can adjust that. We didn't set it to your height.

I'll move it up. Alex got it. Thanks for helping us, Alex. Our editor. Alex edits the shows and he's here tonight. Yeah, he's on it. That was salty. He'll edit that part out of the live hey there we go we just do that give you our notes live great um oh my god thank you so much for joining us jenny um how we're on a

live podcast oh really huh uh well as a we're experts with what with our three, but. Is that unusual to have not done a live podcast? I don't think so. No, I think most normal humans, that is the case. Yeah. Yeah. It's a pretty specific subgenre, isn't it? Yeah. So, all right.

So you made it. You made it to the floor. I did. Yeah. I looked at everything. Uh-huh. Yeah. That's great.

But you were telling us before we started, light on the panels, light on entry to the panels. Well, the thing is, you can either sleep outside or you can not get into any panel. Or unless it's Disney on Broadway, which they were begging people to go to. Yeah. They literally did a PA announcement, and they were like, if anyone else wants to come, there's a lot of room.

It was very plaintive. Yeah. Oh, no. It's a little sad. Did you go? No. I would have gone. And I like Broadway.

I probably would have marked it down. I was like, all right, Parks panel. Oh, Broadway panel. I bet there'll be some performers there. I was actively afraid they were going to mention Tarzan on Broadway or something. Just have to sit in that. Yeah. Yeah.

Have to be a room where it was. Come on, do the Jane solo number. Jason, you know that they're going to show like Hercules musical, not like an old Showboat musical. Yeah. I could see Disney whitewashing Showboat, like

cleaning up Showboat for Disney+, right? I could see, I guess. Yeah, maybe. You're assuming that we know what happens in Showboat. Yeah. They made the movie three times, but then again, you thought it was crazy when I started to describe what A Star is Born was about.

Which they made four times. Can I do that trick of, did anyone not know the ending of A Star is Born, even though, okay. It's not a majority. right all right i can play this trick against you of uh people knowing what you're talking about but we're not here to talk about showboats yeah so jenny you've been how many what year how many times have you been to a uh d23 my fourth wow i know and when the first year i went it was very uncrowded and you could get into things you would just go like an hour before like the way the world

usually works and you could just line up and get in but now it's like if you get the fast pass i heard you still can't get in unless you go overnight so they have, okay, I don't know any of this. They have still, the FastPass system is still in play. They have the FastPass line, and apparently they still run out of space. I don't know. Someone warned me today. I got into the panel pass for the Parks panel tomorrow. Is anyone going to it? Yeah.

Some other people got in. Not very excited. We should say we're recording this before the panel that says all of the new stuff that's happening at the theme parks. The best time. The one most applicable to us, we're just going to guess about a little bit. We'll put out some catty tweets about it, I'm sure. Covered. Watch out, the journey of water

right that's what it's called right the way of water excuse me and the seed bearer that's gonna be great that's number four I think the avatar

avatar four is the seed bearer I think so. Avatar 5, the invention of lying. That's right, right? Yeah. Jake Sully invents lying on Pandora. Honestly, that's good. Because the Na'vi weren't lying before.

Oh, yeah. They's such a pure species absolutely with with the 20th century Fox purchase does Disney now own the invention it's very possible that's actually why they bought Fox yeah I've been

trying to get their hands on that for a long time yeah the problem with this film is it was human characters, but with another species, we think it's really got it shot. Sure. Well, now they can try. Yeah, they can do Pandoran

remakes of anything, really. Maybe that's what they open up, yes, at this point, is all stories happen within Pandora worlds. Because Star Wars, you can't just do a Star Wars remake of anything, because it's a little similar to our world. But if the actors are blue aliens, that's instant novelty.

Even if it's still on Earth. You know, like While You Were Sleeping would be good. Oh, that'd be great. I'm glad there's so many fans of it in the audience. Yeah. Well, and then they can concurrently make a movie move you know what's what's gonna film soon the new indiana jones they film it just with dots all over the faces and then you're filming the avatar version concurrently with the one that you're and then you have a different team that removes the

dots for the non-avatar version yeah yeah yeah like who's the way which guy uh to remove his mustache uh henry cavill. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Everyone knew that fact. Yeah. No, that one I know. Yeah.

That's a very famous person and story. Quick question for the audience. How often are we trying to figure an answer out to something we've asked and you're yelling at us? Wow. Okay. Oh, no. All right. Well, now we're scared.

This stage is not that high up. And we can really see the whites of your eyes. You asked for a moat. Yeah. But they couldn't do it. I mean, we weren't quite sure what we were going to have. I mean, we've clearly jerry-rigged something here. Oh, yeah.

Everything is working. I mean, everything's working. There's a projector on the floor. There's a projector on the floor. My projector from home is on the floor. You're just all in my apartment right now, essentially. Yeah, to save some money, we brought our own microphones. That too.

So we're very cheap. So yeah, so we have a whole setup here and it's not the most glamorous but it's nice. Yes, everyone nod. Yes. Nod and make us see all of your nods. The people at the Anaheim Hotel have been great. The pizza press

dinner there was great. The beautiful bar in the lobby. There's a nice pool out. No one's in the pool out back. We're all going in after. I don't have permission or authority to say this. Like that Area 51 thing. They can't stop all of us.

So, Jenny, highlights from your last two days of D23. There's a Skyway bucket inside. And you can go close to it. But not inside? I feel like I could have touched it. I didn't ask. Okay, but it wasn't like there wasn't a line for a photo op inside. No, I don't think they wanted anyone climbing in it.

Okay. This was like an auction. Actually, the best stuff I've seen was like the people who just auction old Disney things. I didn't even see if the archives are there this year. I saw you can go look at costumes from Maleficent, so I didn't go in there.

It's a mystery to me. I wasn't drawn in by that for whatever reason. So number one highlight, Skyway Bucket. Yeah. There was a scary little animatronic Mickey that used to be in a Main Street window. That was also at the auction place. But it was already scary looking, and I asked if it could still move. And when they did, I had the most visceral like physical fear response

like when you find a bug crawling on you and just all your hair stands on end and you like your stomach clenches and like I don't know what I was expecting they told me it was an animatronic but when they confirmed it could move it was extremely scary all of a sudden I think you posted

that I see it and they said oh no it's not plugged in so but that was another highlight I think you post that on Twitter right I think I saw that. And then I said, can I see it? And they said, oh, no, it's not plugged in. But that was another highlight, I think. You posted that on Twitter, right? I think I saw that. Yeah, I posted a photo of him. Yeah, he's very scary. Oh, this is good cross-promotion. If you guys all look at my personal Twitter account, you can see the Mickey.

Oh, yeah. Everyone look at the Twitter right now and make a noise. No, that is not television. No? Is that too much? Yeah. If we all go on the hotel Wi-Fi, will it crash it? All right, don't.

Look at it later. Just imagine a scary Mickey. Yeah, scary Mickey. What else? What else? Well, you also tweeted something I liked, which is that in the assortment of costumes that were on display, that there was the... Oh, a Holes cosplay? Oh, wait, I missed that.

Holes? The film Holes? I literally chased them because I saw them when they were already far away. And they were going to their car, so I had to catch them. It's not like I'd see them later.

But they were Stanley, Yelnats, and Zero. So they had like... The best part about it, they had the prison jumpsuits, they had their respective hats. But the thing that made it clear it was holes.

I thought there was someone blowing their nose really loudly. The thing that made it clear it was holes is I thought there was someone blowing their nose really loudly. The thing that made it clear it was holes is they were carrying the empty gallon jugs of water. That really brought it home. That's burdening yourself. It made it amazing. A lot of holes fans

here tonight. Big showing for holes. Jimmy Buffett produced and appears in the movie, I believe. Really? In Holes? In Holes. Is he like the racist sheriff?

He's something. I feel like Mike would be aware if Jimmy Buffett played a racist sheriff in something. I wouldn't hear of it. But if he showed up and did it, you couldn't have stopped him. Wait, we have confirmation. What's that? Jon Voight. Jon Voight.

Jon Voight. Okay. Okay. And Jon Voight doesn't have a lot of songs about hamburgers and such. Just to keep my wires straight. He doesn't have publicly released songs. Oh, yeah, yeah. Who knows what he's doing at home?

You don't know what he's jamming on. He likely does. Yeah. Yeah, so... Oh, wait, you know where I was heading? Was the... That you had a photo with the... An Elizabeth Moss costume from The Handmaid's Tale.

Right! At the Disney thing, where all the princess stuff is. We also had Pooka from that one show that's like Black Mirror but not Black Mirror. Oh. It's like a big mascot suit that possesses the man that portrays it on a children's show. So that was there. Yeah. And I guess he's active on Twitter.

The mascot suit is. He's been tweeting at me ever since he appeared in that photo. Oh no. Wait, you're getting harassed now by a fictional puppet man? And he's verified. Pooka, the verified mascot suit, wants a follow back from me.

I don't know how I feel about that. Hmm. Hmm. Yeah. That sort of borders on harassment I would have to think. Yeah, get out people's menchies Pooka. Well, he's a mascot suit. It's different etiquette. Okay. Yeah, that sort of borders on harassment, I would have to think. Yeah, get out people's menchies, Pooka. Well, he's a masculine suit. It's different etiquette. Okay. Yeah. He's not welcome here. Pooka's not welcome.

If he walks in that door, nobody let him in. He's not on the list. That would be pretty exciting. Clarification, so is it an official costume from Handmaid's Tale, or someone was cosplaying as him? Yeah, it was on a mannequin, and it was a little exhibit from Handmaid's Tale or someone was cosplaying it? Yeah, it was on a mannequin and it was a little exhibit celebrating Handmaid's Tale. Yeah. Oh boy, they really do own everything.

Jesus. But where in the crosshair, in all of the merging and everything that's happened, since when? Since when is Handmaid's Tale? Disney has full control of Hulu now. Oh, even though they didn't make the show, they own it. Handmaid's Tale. Hulu. Disney has full control of Hulu now. Oh. Even though they didn't make the show, they own it. Okay. They own it. Really?

Huh. All right. So are they going to be walking around the park then, too? Which land would we put them in? Line of Handmaids? Yeah, Tomorrowland. Maybe some water slide or something that looks like the helmet

that's like, you know, you sort of splash up the sides of it. The helmet. The handmaid's helmet. Yeah. That's an acceptable term for what they wear, isn't it? Ladies, put on your helmets. What if it was like a Jedi training academy, but with hands? That would be my pitch.

All right, kids, and remember, under his eye. This is the future Margaret Ackroyd didn't want, but predicted. I'm afraid of dystopia, but I did always want to be in the Disney parks, so. Finally. Something magical about that place. So let's talk what our expectations and predictions are for tomorrow's park panel. Like, do we think Tomorrowland redo is happening?

No, I heard no. Do we think... Does the applause mean yes or is it applause for no? I'm having trouble reading it. What other rumors are on the table, do we think? I heard an interesting thing today at the Imagineering Pavilion. I heard an Imagineer tersely telling another Imagineer that a third Imagineer was telling everyone they were opening a Brazil pavilion.

And the fact that they were angry made me think, oh, it's true. So they kind of made the problem worse by... Yeah, but anyway. I don't think anyone's surprised by that, though. But everyone's been speculating we're getting a Brazil Pavilion at Epcot. It seems like it's happening. A lot of chatter online about the Brazil Pavilion.

It's the best week possible to be affiliated with the government of Brazil? Will Bolsonaro and his weird smiles come to Epcot to cut the ribbon? And will he light a fire of neighboring pavilions? Sorry, Germany. We need room. Well, those are the exact words that will come out of

Bob Chapek's mouth tomorrow. Before his ass is canned on Monday, you mean? Yeah. We should have gotten Chapek here. That's why you should have shot? Yeah. Yeah. We should have gotten Chapek here. Yeah. I should have tried. That's why you should have shot on Sunday.

Yeah. Yeah. We should have. We were debating that. But then like Comic-Con, people always like get out of town as soon as you can on Sunday. So I don't know what that. Is that the case for D23? Are people hanging?

Has any? Who has traveled to be in Anaheim today? Yeah. All right. Wow. Well, thank you for sacrificing some of your precious hours next to the happiest place on earth. To watch some guys and a girl talk about the happiest place on earth. Talk about it.

But there is complimentary ice water. Yeah. Don't say we never gave you enough. It can be hard to find in the parks a little bit. It's there. You just gotta walk. It's there. I will say, and I'll say this is a sincere feeling, I hope we get some sort of

Avengers coaster announcement. The Marvel, yes! Single clap! One clap! Yeah. Because I will be honest, I'm a little bit underwhelmed with the Avengers Academy.

Campus. Avengers Campus. That's even less cool than what I said. The Academy, yeah. Yeah, you're right. That sounds cool as shit. We need you on the team as opposed to,

we need you like around near where our team is, but you can't come in. You can buy sweaters related to the team. Avengers assemble at the quad. We've still got room in the improv group. You know, lots of fun. Great way to get to know people. They have an atmosphere entertainment

where they say the ice cream freezer is broken and they're giving out free ice cream bars. And all the superheroes come out. Oh. Yeah, because they, you know, on a student budget. Sure. Free ice cream. Free ice cream, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. You try to say hi to them, they run away. Yeah, of course. Yeah, that's a weird one, isn't it? And there's been the, there's the fear with the Marvel stuff that it's not gonna be

mind-blowing crazy great, right? I mean, like, I don't know. I don't feel the sense of anticipation like there was for Galaxy's Edge. And the campus thing sort of waters it down. Isn't it, one of the things is a microbrewery, isn't that right?

Yeah. Like Ant-Man, like it's a big can. Wait, is that true? Yeah, this is real. I didn't know what to believe. Yeah, that is real, yeah. That doesn't sound real. It's awful. I've learned this for the first time, and that's my reaction. This is a reaction video.

That's awful. I mean, you get a Spider-Man game ride, and you get some cold brews. Yeah, I heard there was a leak that said their initial goal in building it was to be able to retheme it every eight years as necessary, which suggests that they aren't going to build anything very nice because you're going to tear it down. They're always good at that. It's really strict about the deposit.

They can't pierce the walls. Yeah, you can't hang anything. Yeah, they want the deposit back. Any ride where they're like, this is modular. We're going to change it. Never. Very rarely.

Not only will they never change it, but it'll look bad forever. Yeah. They'll just build it to be changed and then never actually do it. What is that? I mean, the Disney Play Pavilion, they haven't really gone into more detail about that. Oh, that's like an emoji and meet and greet pavilion. Sure. Which is very, you know, human now, unfortunately.

It makes sense as a pavilion. Do they own the emoji movie now? Who put that out? No, they own Disney emojis. I don't know about this. Who's using Disney emojis? Is that a made up thing? I don't think so.

Okay. But I don't think so. Okay. But I don't think so. I don't know what it's called, but I know that they try to do emojis of their characters. I think you download an app and then message people within that app. I don't know. Yes, I'm saying nods.

I'm saying nods. Wait, so you don't use them as emojis? You just look at art in the style of emojis? What do you get from that? Okay, it's both. Do you love it? How do you feel

about it? I point it. Alright. We'll do a full reviews. We'll do a three hour episode on it eventually. Counts.

Counts. It counts. It came up here, so it counts. So Epcot split into neighborhoods, right? That was going around. Epcot split into

neighborhoods. We don't know. That changes everything. Like what? What does that mean? It's because they wanted a Moana pavilion, which would have to be based around water, but they didn't want to completely demolish the living seas.

So if it's a water neighborhood, I'm guessing. But doesn't that make sense? That's a good guess. Yeah. Then they're like, that's why we have two redundant pavilions. It's not because we didn't plan it ahead. It's because it's a neighborhood of water. Yeah.

They're going to do that with Disneyland now and say we have two Star Wars neighborhoods. Makes sense. And they're both failures, according to what I've read. These will be burnt to the ground as soon as they can. Transformed into Pocahontas lands. Like, what are these rumors lately? Why is everybody so, like, do you guys feel how this,

there's just been this turn of a corner where suddenly, like, everybody's like, in Galaxy's Edge, we're having fun, to, like, the most miserable failure that has ever. I'm surprised Trump hasn't tweeted about it yet. Sloppy Doc Ondar is not selling anything. Sloppy Doc Ondar. Sloppy

Graydon Carter spotted at Galaxy's Edge. It's coming, honestly. It's going to happen. Here, let's go down the line. What is everyone's dream for announcement tomorrow? For Blue Sky, which we do often on this show, what do you want? I'll go for, I said, Marvel e-ticket coaster, redo of Tomorrowland,

cutting edge, futuristic, Fifth Gate, Disney World, Villains Park. That's my dream. That's what I want. I'm not going to get too greedy. I'll just pick three things. Uh-huh. And then I'll go over to Scott. Scott, what would you want the most?

Just make Tomorrowland exactly as it was in 1987. Yeah. Why did we change it if we were just gonna clutter it up with trash? Unused ride tracks. I, like, oh boy. Just to foreclose the whole thing. Yeah, you want to be able to touch the wall on the people mover. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yes, it should be dangerous. We haven't covered it yet, but that is the ride with the most deaths, I think. Yeah, I think it took three lives or something. Jeez. Can I not phrase it that way? Does that sound too deliberate? It's taken lives. Oh, like it was premeditated.

Yeah. Yeah. Walt envisioned a new form of public transit. Some called it the most dangerous form of public transit. Some called it the most dangerous form of public transit. One that takes out people too dumb to know how to use it. With any progress, there will be casualties. That's the price we pay. Yeah.

Yeah. Progress. That must be done. Jason. You know, I really want some X-Men stuff, but I think we've got to wait for, like, Jacob Tremblay and, like like two of the Stranger Things kids to get older.

I guess, I guess that's what I have to wait on now. X-Men comics been doing pretty good the last couple of months, but yeah. All right. Yeah. House of X. Yeah.

I, we got to get those movies in shape, I guess, before we get an Xavier's mansion ride. Yeah. All right. Do we now with the Spider-Man kerfuffle

of recent, is it now, does Tom Holland not get to appear in this potentially disappointing ride now? I assume he's shot something for it already. I could be wrong about that. But now they gotta digitally track a mustache so you can't tell it's him.

They wanna put, they're gonna put Henry Cavill's mustache on Tom Holland to obscure his face, yes. I mean, they built it to be modular so they don't even need him. They actually were really smart and right for doing that, it turns out. Yeah, I guess so.

They could just make it not Spider-Man and everyone will be like, you can re-theme the queue that fast and they'll go, theme the queue? No, we've got barrels. That's what the queue's for. We've got barrels and pipes. Gray walls. You know what they have in superhero headquarters?

Gray walls. Sure. I have a pitch. Re-theme it to Happy Hogan. Oh. The Jon Favreau character. Yeah. Oh. And let's just go on one of his adventures. Sure. Happy Hogan. The Jon Favreau character.

And let's just go on one of his adventures. Or Mr. Mandalorian. Johnny Favreau. In Marvel continuity, did Happy Hogan direct the Mandalorian? Well, he had to do something. Right?

Does the Mandalorian exist like Yes because Star Wars exists In the Marvel the MCU because Spider-Man references it so Yes for sure so I'm happy could have Gotten that directing gig And Marvel exists in the Muppet Babies universe because they like

Dance around with Spider-Man and stuff And Star Wars Also exists in the Muppet Babies universe They open the door universe because they like dance around with spider-man and stuff and and Star Wars also exists oh yeah open the door so you've seen it yeah yeah does that mean that Werner Herzog exists in the MCU so that means grizzly bear happened and grizzly man grizzly man the man grizzly bear also happened. Grizzly bear happened. Yeah. Half of them blipped, but the other half didn't. They had that left. Yes, yes.

Yeah, yeah. That's true. Jenny. Okay, I have three. All right, go for it. The first one is I want them to restore Journey into Imagination to being good. Yeah. But, okay, I have specific dreams about how they'll announce it.

So I know they have, like, this upbeat energy when they come out onto the stage at D23. But I want them to come out and, like, still be really peppy, but also be like, we've made a huge mistake. So, like, but it's, like, matter of fact, they bring someone out, like, hey, like, you're the guy that made the decision. Do you want to talk about what a mistake you made when you took it out the first time? And's like yeah man i made a mistake and everyone's like cheering and and we get like t-shirts at the end that's like a picture of figment and the quote like we made a mistake and figment's going yeah all is forgiven now but it takes imagination to make mistakes too exactly imagination doesn't always give you good ideas. Uh-huh. Yeah. So I had the idea to become a skunk unpleasantly for 20 years.

Yeah, become like a Bart Simpson-esque bad boy. Yeah. I love that. Yeah, he's such a rascal, that new figment. Let's make figment nice again. Make figment nice again. Yeah, exactly. Sure.

Exactly. Absolutely. And like, there are no hard feelings in imagination so they can buy out Dr. Nigel Channing. We can give him

a severance package, you know? This is actually dialogue from the ride. Yeah. Yeah. The pre-show is just him

sighing separation. The ride is actually about explaining how the last one wasn't very good. Yeah. And then you go through a door and it's like,

oh, hello, I'm the new head of the Imagination Institute and it's the Dream Finder. He's back. Wait, who are we going to cast as him? You know it's going to be a screen again. Yeah, probably. Possibly.

I don't know if we're getting new bots. People just give me a Patrick Harris again. They always do that. Yeah. Do you have a casting choice for who would appear as Dream Finder on the ride if you could pick anyone in the world? Gosh. Who's that guy that's the sheriff on Stranger Things? David.

David Harbour. David Harbour. Yeah. David Harbour. Stranger Things, very hot right now. Yeah. But like it's ending, so also he'll take the job. Yeah, David Harbour. I think Arthur Thing's very hot right now. Yeah. But, like, it's ending, so also he'll take the job. Yeah.

Is it ending? It feels like it would. I think there's three more seasons. Okay, good. Good. Hey, anything's better than Gad. Sorry. Sorry.

Sorry. Poor Gad. He is at Pizza Pizza I'm sorry he's probably in the district right now wait what about Bobby Moynihan sure

yeah Bobby sure yeah that's not a bad yeah yeah is he a Parks fan he is he's in DuckTales too

so they have him like you know in their speed dial he's in the cavalcades yeah and they go up and down main street he's in the rainy day cavalcades

in a poncho every time yeah wait you somebody saw him you saw him wow oh geez was he in the rainy day cavalcades in a poncho every time. Wait, somebody saw him? Somebody saw him? Wow. Was he in the cavalcade? Is there weight?

No. Nice. Yeah, cool. Wow. So now we know he's a Disney fan and he's cool. Unless he left without buying sunglasses. Then we'll never know. Other dreams, Jenny. my next dream is it's

a little controversial obviously I would like them to do something with the people mover track but I've heard that they literally can't because it's falling apart so in that case I'd like them to just take it out and rebuild an identical track and the third is like that fuzzy elephant creature that's like i guess not a bantha but the thing they told me i could ride on the back of in star wars land yeah all the like press about how it's a failure made them so insecure that they'll build a giant hairy elephant animatronic to walk around i wonder wonder. I really wonder. Did everybody see the leaked concept art

of what that Bantha ride was going to be? It was beautiful. Wasn't it supposed to be a Bantha? Because it was very large. Or it was Bantha-like. It was derivative of Bantha, just like Batuu is derivative of... Tatooine? All the other places. Yeah.

They have made a technology, in case you haven't seen it, the technology was basically like, you would move around like a people mover, but then the bench would move up and down like you were like on the back of an animal. Wait, you weren't sitting on the, oh. You weren't riding it like Pete riding the dragon. You're like, you're on a weird bench. Like, is there a kind of- So it's like Flight of Passage? No, like- No, it's sideways. But a slow bantha. the dragon. You're like, you're on a weird band. Like, is there a kind of passage?

No, sideways, but a slow band. Like the, like Prince Ali. It doesn't need to sit in like a basket thing in the Prince Ali sequence. There you go. On an animatronic elephant with a capacity of like four people at a time.

Yes. Yeah. The capacity hours in line. Yeah. And then take 10 minutes to load and then get hours in line. Yeah. And then take 10 minutes to load. And then get on this elephant. Yeah. And it takes you in a very slow circle.

And if it, like, e-stops, they have to wheel out a tall ladder. And like rocket rods, it cannot deal with corners or curves well at all. Yeah. And anytime there's, like, anything over a 4.0 earthquake, they're like, even though there's nothing wrong with the ride, we do have to stop it. It's regulation. You're like, can I just slide down? No, the ladder is on its way. Some bolts

were shaken loose by the quake, but it's coming. Well, I'm afraid that none of the things we just said will come true tomorrow. No. Yeah. Yeah. Which is, you know, why it's important.

You know, we can't control any of that. We can't control what they're doing down the street, the big fancy Anaheim Convention Center. But we have our own party going on right here. That's true. And, you know, if we think they might be disappointing us with some of that news tomorrow, then we need to make sure that you all leave with the opposite of disappointing news. We got to make this more than just a live version of the kind of show we do normally. It's time to tell you now that it is more than that.

This isn't just our live show. This is PTR 23, the ultimate... Yeah. The ultimate Podcast the Ride fan event. That was some applause. I bet they could hear that down at the convention center.

Yeah. Let's show them. That's right. Right here, right now, this is the only place that you can hear exclusive announcements about the future of Podcast the Ride until this episode is public in six days. But until then, we've gathered all of the magic of Mike, Jason, and Scott under one roof. And you all are the beneficiaries of it. So officially, welcome to PTR 23. So glad you could make it.

Yeah. We've got everything D23 has. There's cosplayers. Keep an eye out for the man dressed as the khaki-colored cargo shorts every Imagineer is required to own at least five pairs of. Or

the woman in a mashup costume that's half Mary Poppins and half Xenia Mucha, Bob Iger's fixer. Longtime Disney heavy. We should say also, the listener at home can't see this, but clearly the memo got out about it being PTR 23,

because we're looking at it in an absolute sea of Mike Scott and Jason cosplay. Can you believe it? We haven't addressed this yet. Yeah. Like 95% of people, haven't addressed this yet. Yeah. 95% of people, I wish the listener could see this. Look at gray shorts. Yeah. Yeah. That's a mic for sure.

It covers the entire range of what we all wear, from casual to business casual. But we now hear, you know, we can't, we don't get to announce new Marvels or new Star Wars that are coming out, but we can officially say that all the rumors and all

the speculation topics that you guys have been waiting for, pleading for, it's all coming. We got a big 2019 left, a big 2020 left. The M&&m store movie in las vegas is coming that episode is coming yes yeah hell yeah um we just lindsey and i just did it yeah yeah so now we can cover it i i will give it a little bit of a hint about what I'll be saying on the episode, actually.

The place smells like shit. Horrible. Putrid. It's supposed to smell like chocolate. It smells, oh, we wanted to throw up the whole time. Anyway, that's just a preview. You were begging for some candy piss to take your mind off it.

I was. Just up the strip. You're a mere blocks away. The Schomburg Mall is coming. Schomburg Mall. Yes, we'll do it. We will learn about that specific Warner Brothers Studio store

as opposed to the others and then still about that specific Warner Brothers Studio store as opposed to the others and then still separately do a Warner Brothers Studio store episode. I can't believe people listen to this podcast sometimes. Yeah. Thunder in Paradise is coming. In case you don't know what that is, the Hulk Hogan syndicated TV show that was

shot at the Grand Floridian in Florida. I think it was sort of a tax scam kind of a thing. Probably. Yeah. There was a talking boat, too, I think. It transformed, at least. I don't know if it talked. There was just a lot of room

in the boat. It was a very like deep boat. It was like night boat though from the Simpsons. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Fairly close to that. Yeah, you're going to learn all about it. Hey, this year, you know, there was,

down at D283, there was a Simpsons panel because Disney bought the Simpsons this year. Well, not to be outdone, we bought a DVD of Father of the Pride. The one season animated show about Siegfried and Roy's lions or whatever. We will endure all of the episodes

of this, so you don't have to. Feel free to do it, too, but it's your funeral. Jason, were you heading to something? You don't have to. I can say something. Mike had

something. Oh, yes, sure. Here at PTR23, we don't have a ton of exclusive merch, but I do have one very highly sought after item. Now, I am going to give this item out to someone, but they must have an annual pass and are planning to go right back to the park after this.

Who is that? Raise your hand if you're planning on doing this. Uh-oh. Do we also need to give the caveat that it can only be for one person? Well, they don't know what it is yet, but it is for one person. So, in a couple scenario. There may need to be a sacrifice. Okay, so somebody asked, should I pick or should we make Jason you pick?

Oh, I don't want to pick. You should ask them a trivia question about your own show. Well, I was going to ask who came the farthest and has a pass. What's that? You're from Brazil? You're from Brazil? I'm either, but. He moved here. He moved here from Brazil.

Well played. I do admire. Who else? Someone's being pointed to. Who? You came here for this? Or for all the stuff in general? Huh.

Oh, my God. Well, thanks for coming. Wow. Wait. Atlanta's pretty good.. Oh my god. Well, thanks for coming. Wow. Wait. Atlanta's pretty good. Oh my god. Who can beat Atlanta? Oh, Jersey?

Is that farther than Atlanta? It's north. Oh no. We gotta get a map out. We have to do calculations. I think New Jersey is farther. Florida. Florida. Oh my god. This is crazy, by the Florida. Oh, my God. This is crazy, by the way.

So you're all going back to the park. Yeah. All right. All right. I wish this was not such an exclusive item, but I have to. Who was Jersey? Maybe it's Jersey. You're going back to the park. Okay.

That's important. Tonight. It has to be tonight. Who's going back tonight? Atlanta's going back. I think it might, that's important. Tonight. It has to be tonight. It's going back tonight. The item, so... Atlanta's going back. I think it might have to be you, sir. I think it has to be you.

I'm making an executive decision. I'm sorry. Because we could do this all night. Yes, I know. Yes, just for your time reasons. You swear you're going back into the park right after this. Okay.

Okay. The exclusive item is that I have been checking and getting fast passes. And I will be checking. It's only going to be a few. I'm going to check right now. And I will email you pictures of the fast passes.

If you email podcasttheride at gmail right now, I will send you those fast passes. We will check right now as long as my phone loads, which it might not. But I will find another Fast Pass and you have the most exclusive item from PTR 23. Yeah.

The benefit of my checking. A hand checked. A hand checked by Mike Carlson. And of course, it's not loading, so I'm going to try to get on the Wi-Fi. Anyway, that will come. Just email us.

Anyway. That all has to happen between now. We have to keep doing the show. That has to be passed to him, and then you're going to get into the park before 11, and it has to be a fast-forward Disneyland proper. Corral of that? Yes, all of that.

I can do that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm a professional checker. I'm just saying the stakes. I'm just saying the stakes. I'm just making the stakes high. Yeah, the stakes are high. Wow.

Jason, hotspot me real quick. Okay. Why don't you take my phone, and I'll segue us into the next segment? Great. Okay. Like D23, we want to celebrate our own legends, our own PTR legends. Yes. Here is my hots own PTR legends. Yes. Here is my hot spot.

They do. Absolutely. Oh, I should have helped with that. I'm sorry. That was very rude of me. Yes. You know, one big thing they do at D23 every year, they induct Disney legends.

This year among the honorees, Christina Aguilera, John Favreau, Robert Downey Jr., Bette Mid Miller, Hans Zimmer, a great lineup. But we feel pretty proud of our lineup, the first ever inductees into the PTR Legends Hall of Fame. And Mike, do you want to kick us off? Oh, wait, wait. Oh, you know what? Here, because it's the first slide before all of that stuff,

you'll see it. Let me, you know what, I'll declare, he's a PCR legend. He's the first one. The person you're going to see right now, this is an exclusive announcement you won't see anywhere else. There's a series, a crucial series within our show, within Podcast the Ride, that is about to embark upon its next installment and here to tell you about it. Well, it might not be what you think, but there's more stuff coming.

Hang on. But, ladies and gentlemen, pre-taped via satellite, Griffin Newman. Yo, what's up, PTR23? This is your boy, Griffin Newman. So sad to be missing a PTR23. I never, ever miss one. Especially not those sweet PTR23 parties.

Anyway, I am here to give you an exclusive announcement. Here's my scoop. I will officially be reprising my role as Griffin Newman in the Podcast the Ride 3D theme park movie trilogy. So amped. Deal got caught up in Sony negotiations for a little bit, but I really think we're going to give the fans what they want, give this series back to the fans, take this franchise to new heights, and I'm amped. So look for that dropping sometime around quarter three, 2.19.

Peace, and don't have too much fun without me. We won't, Griffin. Yeah, it's been tough negotiations. He's been after a second glass of water while we record because our episodes tend to go long. But yes, Griffin Newman will be joining us doing another 3D movie in the near future. Which one of the two that are left will he do? Only, it's up to you to guess.

Okay, so, Griffin Newman, the first PTR legend. I'm declaring it. Thank you, Griffin. Due to slideshow order, you by default are a PTR legend, I'm declaring it. Thank you, Griffin. Due to slideshow order, you by default are a PTR legend. And coming up next is somebody who we're very fond of and we care about very much. Michael? Ladies and gentlemen. The audience has seen it.

Mike, would you like to say a few words? Yes. Papa Steve will not be here tonight. Although, we really didn't even try to get him. Isn't he, is he deceased? I don't know. I think he may be. Does anyone know that?

We're not sure. I don't know. Well, at the very least, we do know they kept a little piece of him as the starter for the next Papa Steve. The Papa dough? Yeah. Not the mother dough? Not the mother dough. The Papa dough.

The Papa dough. That's how you make a Papa Steve. I'll quickly accept on Steve's behalf. I have been enjoying this kindly old man's photo for over many years here. And primarily because every time I have been going to California Adventure with Jason, I take a photo of Jason with Papa Steve. I'm realizing now it would have been great to put it in the slideshow. That would have been great, but it's been a busy week for me. So I just want to say thank you on behalf of Papa Steve.

And let's hope that even if they tear down that bread tour, they leave that up as a tribute no matter what they build. If Marvel takes over and it's the raft, the Marvel jail, and as long as they have a picture of Papa Steve up in there, I think I'm going to be happy and we'll all be happy. Now, not all of the PTR legends are from just one poster in California Adventure, but a lot of them are. For example, there's this one poster when you leave this one bathroom in the Hollywood area. And I don't know if people know this offhand, but please keep an eye out for it the next time uh you're in the park because uh you know look uh wait wait hang on one second you know i just want to say these uh you know all of us up

here we're we're all multi-hyphenates we we we want to be podcasters but we also want to be writers directors actors everything we can be and it's nice that there's one guy who lets you know that america's favorite leading man can be Hollywood's biggest star. And so Mike, please, let's officially give the trophy to this unnamed guy. Unnamed gable-ish man on the cover of Movie News magazine outside a bathroom not too far from here. Jenny, have you noticed this before? Do you know what we're talking about? Has anyone noticed this before?

He looks very familiar to me. Is he next to Off the Page? It's very near Off the Page, yes. Yeah, yeah. It's that little bathroom plaza. Yeah, yeah. I know it well. Okay, very good.

Yeah, yeah. Well, then I'm so glad we could honor him here tonight. Our next inductee. Sure, this is my pick, and I think it will become immediately clear why. It's a real Cinderella story, new on the scene, but with its peppermint ice cream, cajeta-filled churros, chocolate brownie crumbles, chocolate sauce and whipped cream,

it proved that not less is more, but more is more. It's the holiday churro sundae that I ran off a nighttime Mark Twain voyage to get. Just as the golden horseshoe was closing for the night. Perfect. There it is. Wow. Wonderful. I was waiting for the name of it. Holiday Churro Sundae is as good as you're going to get. All right.

Fair enough. All right. Not all inductees require a big old speech. Some explain themselves. That's true of our next honoree. Ladies and gentlemen, Donald Duck's thick ass. Yeah. Wait a minute. Hold on's thick ass. Yeah. Wait a minute. Hold on.

Hold on. Wait, what was that? What? Where did that come from? In the audience listening at home, I was just trying to bring up a slide of Donald Duck's thick ass and then there was almost like a subliminal cut to something else.

To a different slide. This was supposed to be the last slide. I know. We agreed more than four would be crazy. Yeah. Guys, care to explain?

I didn't. No, I did my fucking ice cream bullshit. I'm done. I just was going to do Papa Steve. I don't know. It's like maybe my...

I don't want to say it, but maybe my computer is possessed. Hit it again. Hit it because we should go to the next segment. Whoa! No! No! Choco! Oh, my God.

It's Choco the Clown. It's Choco the Clown, who came up in one episode. Why? Did he work at Disneyland? No. What was this again? He had a restaurant. He had a menu.

This is a menu you could get at the Disneyland Hotel like 50 years ago. And he was a local Los Angeles clown. And he had a song that was like, I'm Choco. I'm Choco. I'm Choco the birthday clown. Stop this. Stop this song. Stop this song at once, Mike.

He had a ring. And I guess for whatever reason, his spirit has infiltrated my computer, and now he's insisting that he's a podcast to write legends. No, he is not. No, legend, are you, Choco? I guess since he's here, we should induct Choco into the Hall of Fame. No, we should not.

I feel Choco here with us, honestly. I feel Choco here with us, honestly. I feel Choco as well, accepting on behalf of Choco, our very own Scott Gairdner. What the fuck? Now, of course. No, absolutely not. As we all know,

clown law dictates that in order to accept for a clown, one must become a clown. No! No! No! No! Stop it! I'm going to the pool! No! We're almost... No! There's a wig on me! Just hold on.

It's over my eyes! I'm going to need some help, Ron. That goes on your nosy... I'm not going to help you. That's for damn sure. Well, forget that. No! All right, Accept it. Someone forcibly glues it onto my nose, then perhaps. But until then, no Choco am I.

All right. Scott, you're freaking out. Here, take this glass. Take this glass. Calm down. Calm down. Let's have a glass of wine. Let's have a glass of your beloved wine.

Yeah, push the wig back. Oh, thank you so much. Push the wig back. Wait a minute. Can I trust this? Oh, yes. Just some real wine. Oh, no.

What? Oh, no, it's bib juice. It's Choco's favorite drink, bib juice. The wine. Oh, no, you're going to have to drink it. Oh, no. Bib juice. I don't approve of the chant that's forming.

Not one bit. I am the host of the show, and I decide what gets chanted and what doesn't. Let me make one thing very clear. If no other hosts have said that, we control the chants. I don't want this anywhere near... There's hairs in it. That's actually true. Why are there hairs in it?

That I couldn't tell you. Okay. Okay. You have to induct him. So you're saying this all ends. Scotto inducts Choco. Scotto induct Choco. Is this over and this thing will ungraft itself from my head?

I believe that is the prophecy. That's how the prophecy works. If I take one sip of bib juice. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. Oh. Oh. All right.

I'm Choco. Yeah. Hey, folks. I'm proud to be a member of the beach. No, no, no, no, no. You get out of here. No, I will stay in here. No, no, no, you get out of here. No, I will stay in here. No, no, no, you get out.

Okay. Okay. I'm regaining control. All right. Okay. We got a brief second to chuckle. And that was enough to get officially inducted as a PTR legend. Thanks everybody. Oh my gosh. Jeez. Get it off. Get it off. That was... I'm so relieved to be Scott again. $18 at a Burbank costume shop.

It was all worth it. Okay. The next time I imbibe a warm-colored liquid, I hope that it is wine and not the terrible sweat of a clown. That's what I assume bib juice is. I don't want to break the fourth wall. Jason, was that actually bib juice or is that just like Tropicana? That was exactly Tropicana.

Wow. It would have been better if it was Donald Duck orange juice. Oh, that's so hard to find nowadays. No. Very, yeah, it's everywhere. All right, all right. It's not, I guess it's not available at the old corner store that you shop at. No.

You should ask old... You know I exclusively buy groceries at a Cracker Barrel General Store. You should ask old Mr. Peterson to carry some Donald Duck juice for you. Alright, anyway. We've had a lot of fun here. Hopefully no more possessions occur. Anyway, you know,

there's one thing. Boy, this is... We jammed a lot in here, and you know what? I can't believe we're not telling you until now. There actually is a topic tonight. In typical Podcasts the Right fashion. That wasn't it. There were possessions and a bunch of slides and a guy called in from New York.

And we still have stuff to do. And because we're so close to Disneyland, we're the closest to Disneyland that we've ever done an episode, we want to honor the great Anaheim Park. We got to bring out the big guns. We got to do one of the big ones that we haven't covered. Let's announce what that is. All aboard! Let's go!

Yeah. You bet your ass. You're damn right. Still Casey Jr. Now you know how we feel when we're deep in an episode and like, oh my God, stuff still. We're talking about Casey Jr. Circus Train, ladies and gentlemen. Now, Jason, a noted fan of this attraction.

I love it. And I think there was even the concern from you that fitting it into a live episode would be a challenge, would be a waste, would somehow defile your beloved train. Not a waste. No, well well just like would we have time would we

get to it well that's that's in question right now still question right now that's still certainly that possibility is certainly on the table but you know what let's let's let's give it our best shot we can like eliminate a little we are not talking about Disneyland Paris's Casey Jr.

Le Petit Train du Cirque no we're not talking about Disneyland Paris' Casey Jr. Le Petit Train du Cirque. No, we're not talking about that at all. That is a roller coaster type of track. Oh, yeah, it's totally different. Yes, there was a children's roller coaster themed to Casey Jr. in Disneyland Paris. Does it look like ours? It looks like ours, but ours...

And it still plays the song. It still plays the song, but ours... Does it play it faster? That's a good question. And louder. It's a metal version, I believe. We got nightcore, Casey Jr. Okay, so that's off the table.

Great. Okay. We were talking about it. We were breaking the rules. Well. Oh, wait. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God.

Oh, we're wasting valuable time. Jenny, we asked if you'd be okay with doing casey jr as a topic and you were like yeah sure why not i think i just didn't reply to your message i think that's yeah i think i said i mean i think we're thinking of casey jr and then no reply and i said i hope she's still doing the show yeah i assume she was and look at you now now we get to talk about. And here I am. Yes. Yeah. Casey Jr. has been said and you're here. Any thoughts or feelings about Casey Jr.? Oh, so many. So many.

I love Casey Jr. I love it because it's an attraction where like the attraction aspect is kind of just the vehicle. Like it doesn't matter what it passes. I mean, it does pass things, but like no one cares. It's like you care if you're riding in the monkey cage or the caboose? Or the boring bench? Oh yes, yeah, yeah. I think it mainly

it is about picking that vehicle on the way in. And you'd have to think that the cages are the most in demand. And once the ride starts, the funnest part is over. Because once you're in the monkey cage like being in the monkey cage is not that fun but like anticipating getting the monkey cage

and then the moment when you get it is really fun and then you're in it and you're like okay yeah well i can't see the buildings as well now your view is restricted. Yes. It's more restricted than if, than if you just like stood and looked at the, at the ride. Good crash protection probably. Yeah, that's true. Or do you think it crumples like a smart car? Oh,

I don't know. I'm a partial to the caboose. I've definitely know I've made Mike squeeze into the caboose and the cage. Yes, I have been in the cage with Jason a few times. Here's the thing. I've only been on the ride with him when it's his birthday.

Wow. And the only other time I've honestly been on is when Scott and our friend Andrew, who's here, who I believe checked you in tonight. We went on it, and we were like, it's weird to go on it because it is for children. It's a child's train. And we were jockeying for position, and then families were coming by, and we're like, oh, you go ahead.

You go ahead. We didn't want the cops called on us. Three adults, we're getting kids out of the way so we can get in the monkey cage. And then they were trying to seat us somewhere else. We're like, we'll do the next one. We'll go to the next Casey Jr.

I get stressed out on it because I feel like I'm taking food out of a child's mouth. I believe the term you meant to use is narrow gauge railway. What? It's not a children's ride. It's a narrow gauge railway. That means the track is more narrow than a standard gauge railway.

That's a lot of fancy words to say small. So every time that Jason and I go on the narrow gauge railway, there we go. I get a little weird, like, oh, do we have to do this? But that being said, I like this song, and it's a nice little trip at night. Nice trip. You get to see storybook land from different angles,

all the nice miniatures. Those boats take a long time to load. I don't ride those boats that much. I do like them. I like both the boats and the Casey Jr. train because they're exclusive to Disneyland. They're not in Disney World. So there's still some charm, some uniqueness to me

having grown up on the East Coast. Yeah, absolutely. Preferences between Storybook Land canal boats and Casey Jr. Oh, Casey Jr., no contest. Strongly Casey Jr. Jenny, do you agree? Yeah, Casey Jr. It's a train.

I mean, Disneyland is for trains primarily. It's for trains mostly. And it's also one of our favorite theme park archetypes, a little guy trying his best. That's true. Now I see. Now I get it. Oh, absolutely.

Yeah, I mean, it does have a little story in that regard. It's sort of a Star Tours Jurassic Park ride. Things go haywire in the middle, but in the calmest possible way. And not even fully haywire, he just like, you know. He's got breathing problems. It's really, he's like really huffing and puffing because he's having some problem with his respiratory system.

Yeah. And like the tension isn't that you might be in danger. The tension is that you might be in danger. The tension is that you might not be able to go fast if you can't crest the lift hill. So it might just be a disappointing ride. That's the stakes.

Well, maybe it's possible that if you don't make it all the way up the hill that it careens all the way down backwards. That's why I picked the monkey cage, though. Oh, yeah, yeah. So no stakes. Wait, wait. Let me throw this at you, though. If you're in that cage and the train falls into the storybook canal,

then you might get trapped in there as it sinks all the way to the bottom. But the sharks will not get you. Ah, yes. The famous sharks in the storybook canal. Good point. I just might want to be open air for for easy escape i'm so afraid that there's going to be an accident on casey jr oh no before you can edit this and post it oh yeah what if nobody go on it for the next like three days oh my god imagine yeah if that broke and then there was in fact. Do you think you'd edit it out or would you just go, oh no, and like post it anyway? I think that my cautionary tale would serve as evidence that they should have kept that thing safer.

But what if like all of their hypotheticals happened? They were like, yeah, the people that were on the benches were crushed on impact but the people in the cage they drowned and it's just like everything now the guy in the caboose got the little steering wheel like jammed into its mouth don't give death

more material everything I'm writing is coming true yeah Hollywood has told me that if an enclosed Right, geez, everything I'm writing is coming true. The group of reapers at the pool. Hollywood has told me that if I go into the water in some sort of cage or secured thing, Benji and Luther will cut me out and put me in a boat with a bag over my head, like in Mission Impossible Fallout.

Oh, I see. You didn't know the names Benji and Luther off the top of your head? Didn't have Benji in there, no. I knew, yeah. So, I mean, you make a good point. This ride hopefully is inspiring to asthmatics. Yes, yes.

If you think you can. He really is struggling. You heard him in this before. It's really like we went on it and we were like disturbed a little bit by it because like,

what are we, we're on top of him. What are we doing to him? Why are we making him carry us? We're adding to his weight. That's a good point. There's 40 of us in this train

and this guy is like struggling so hard. We should get out. This guy. He's filled with the circus. He's, he's carrying the whole circus. But we're just people. He's filled with the circus. He's carrying the whole circus. But we're just people. We're not in the circus.

You don't imagine you're in the circus? Circus train. So he's like the people that didn't understand why Snow White wasn't in her ride. He's like, I just don't get why we're in a circus train. Yeah. We could not parse the complex story of the Casey Jr. circus train. You're the monkey.

I guess. Okay, so yeah. So now next time I go on it, I have to imagine I'm like the lion tamer. But you're a heavy monkey. I'm a 185 pound monkey. And then when they unlock the cage They're like come out you heavy monkeys Alright get a move on

Get a move on big boy Come on Would you say the monkeys are thick? Yeah And then they sell your mom Oh god Oh no That's accurate

But you put it that way. Yeah. It's certainly chilling. Yeah. You know, why did they recreate the train? The circus wasn't the good guy in Dumbo. True. They don't have a Stromboli's cage ride where you're swinging around in these little bird cages.

They could. It would be pretty good. But they don't. It's a ride you never get to leave. At the villain's thrill park, maybe. Well, as long as you're not entertaining, they eventually let you go. So we'd all be fine. Well, I don't think Casey necessarily knows what he's delivering and why.

He knows it's heavy. He's just following orders. Yes. Okay. I'm letting him off the hook, I guess. Yeah, that makes it okay. That's fine. He doesn't know what's inside him.

It's behind him. He faces forward. He can't tell what's being put. Oh, I thought you meant, like, he doesn't know what's inside him. It's behind him. He faces forward. He can't tell what's being put. Oh, I thought you meant like he doesn't know what's inside him. Like in the way none of us do until we're in like a difficult situation. So... Yeah.

Like it could happen to... We could all be Casey Juniors. Yeah. That's a good point. Yeah. That's what the Milgram experiment was about. And then in the other sense, I hope there's not an animal inside me right now.

I was already inhabited by a clown for a little bit. Okay, so Casey Jr. is some kind of war criminal is what we've determined. Yeah, I think that's official. We can make that ruling. So yeah, let me ask this of everyone.

How many times do you think you've been on the ride in your lifetime? Because I think my answer is like four, five. Oh, what? Wow. Is that high? You think that's high or low? I was going to say like two dozen, and I'm not even from here. I like Casey Jr.

Two dozen. Jason, what do you think? Yeah, I'd say about maybe a dozen. Yeah. A dozen. Scott? I'm less. I think I'm in like, I'm in five, six range.

Oh my God. Yeah. Huh. Five, six. Do we have a new contest with the audience to see who's ridden it the most, and then that invalidates the previous contest? No, we won't do that. You're fine.

You're fine. You'll get your matchbox. Guys, Casey Jr. is the only train in Disneyland with a face. Huh? Right? Actually, I think a lot of the trains at Disneyland, their faces are underneath. Like, you're trying to anthropomorphize it like a human and just presuming the face would be on the front.

But I think it's if you turn it over. It's like a scary little hermit crab. And then you like see a little mouth with a beak and like beady little eyes. And it goes like until you put it back. Yeah, that's perfect. We've had a great body horror run on the show lately. Yeah.

And that's perfect for this. And they're so large. And if you looked under the train, you'd see all the little oh yeah yeah so like the the train cars and the wheels and stuff you're saying that's like it's it's shell or clothing exoskeleton predator can like disguise themselves as part of the environment I'm familiar. So it's that. Okay. That's just to lure you in

where you go like, that's just a train. A thing humans are accustomed to. That's like when they researched us to see what we're vulnerable to. They're like, from what I can tell, humans love trains. Especially Walt Disney. Yeah, one guy. Yeah. I know one guy who really

loved trains. Does Disney own... Who owns Thomas the Tank now? Viacom. Is it Viacom? No, I don't know. What do we think? PBS owns it?

No. No, okay. I can say things too. I own it. All right. No. Okay. I can say things too. I own it. Not true. I wish I owned it. Do you bring up some British company that's irrelevant to us? Oh.

That sounds right. They like trains there. Soon Thomas will be following orders. Jesus. I know. He's on the board of directors of the company. He approved the merger. There's all the Eurorail.

You go backpacking, you can get the Eurorail pass. Mattel. Mattel owns Thomas. Do they own the toy rights or do they own him? I think they own him. They put him in his shed at night. It's Mattel. People are saying it's official.

Three people said it. It's fact. Mattel does like Hasbro owns like Mr. Potato Head and they own. So like there are like the toy companies and eventually like Disney will buy all of those toy companies and then they will have Thomas and then we will retheme the Disneyland Railroad to Thomas and Friends. It's only just now dawning on me. I think a section of the audience thought I was making a very dark train joke

that just occurred to me now. I was not intentionally. Oh, no. You were referring to Walt, right? And it just felt weird. No, I was referring to Walt. Oh, no. I know what happened. I'm not going to say it. That was not my intent. I knew something weird.

I was thinking more about backpackers after college. Okay. Taking the Euro pass. say it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was not my intent. I knew something weird. I was thinking more about backpackers after college. Okay. Taking the Euro Pass. Got it. Got it. Cleared up. Yeah. Please do not cancel me for train-based humor. Oh, well, you know what? I'd like to talk about the song a little bit, and really

just a little bit of the song, because I like the song very much, and I think it's a lot of the texture of what makes this ride so fun, but really, the money of that song is time for lemonade and Cracker Jacks. Cracker Jacks, singular. Yeah. Just crack, what? Yep. One Cracker Jacks. Cracker Jack, singular. Just crack, what? One Cracker Jack. One Cracker Jack? Well, Cracker Jack is plural without an S on the end.

Really? Yeah. Multiple Cracker Jacks? In the Take Me Out to the Ball game, it's buy me some peanut and Cracker Jack. Then that's plural as well. It's not a single. I'm gonna have some popcorns.

Interesting. See, more than three people said it, so it's right. Huh, huh. I can't imagine any... Like, 80% of the ballpark must pluralize it. Yeah, yeah. I've heard it, but it's incorrect. And you take the time to try to correct everyone

in the ballpark. You know. I'm waving a dictionary in the air, running around a baseball park, pointing. And another game ruined by a crazed dictionary holder on the field.

It's a public service. Anyway, that line. Oh, what a delight. Time for lemonade and Cracker Jacks, which I imagine is what, Cracker Jacks, which I imagine is what... Cracker Jack's singular. I won't do it again. Time for Lemonade and Cracker Jack, which is what I imagine you sing to yourself

when the Patreon money comes in. Before he opens the email, he's going, chugga-chugga-chugga-chugga-chugga-chugga-chugga. You had that one in the chamber for a while now? Maybe. Did it seem pre-written or something? No, that's fine. I like it because of the bleakness it projects. Well, in the...

Well, because they had so little to live for back then. Yes. This is the Depression. Back then. Yeah. The only time you tasted sugar is when the circus arrived. And you're like, well, this is when sugar's around. Perhaps next year I'll taste it again.

Very good point. It's sad. Yeah, it wasn't. Why get one singular treaty and it's like a thimble. It's just a tiny little amount and one jack. And you share it with your little brothers and sisters. It's easier for you to count out the colonels because you couldn't afford gloves.

It's winter in my dream. Yes, and you're taking care of like six siblings and something happened to your parents. Yeah, Paul worked the mines and the black lung got him. Not a dissimilar summary from Ray Bradbury's Something Wicked This Way Comes.

My father and the circus both rode off on trains and I never saw either of them again. Yeah. Real bleak. This is the world that this train ride throws you into. Well, it's a projection of that moment of fleeting happiness. Yeah. Oh, right.

It's actually a really happy ride. Yeah. Because you would think that that happiness would be so much more amplified because you never had it on any other time of the year. Exactly. Because your life is so sad. You love the train. Right. Because I go to Disneyland all the time. It barely registers on my happiness meter anymore

because I'm just so desensitized. I'm kidding. I'm using it for a comedic effect. But yeah, depression kids love trains. Do we have any in the audience? Kids who love trains in the audience? Like kids from the Depression. Oh.

Oh, yeah. Jason, nice pull. You in the front row. Oh, yeah. Jason. Nice pull from you in the front row. Pointed right to Jason. Easy. I already get enough from them. Glad you got the moat. Well, that's why, yeah.

But what you're saying is we get to be, all of us in this room get to be happy all the time with trips to theme parks and hotel bars and live podcasts. We'll probably take lemonade for granted. Yeah, there was a time when people were only happy for four minutes a year. And it's portrayed in casey jr yeah it's something to think about as we go home and take our lemonade out of the fridge and our nightly bowl of cracker jack and really like and imagine like what it would be like and really be thankful for your cracker jack and lemonade my annual lemonade and cracker jack jenny did you see the uh tim burbo? I sure did. I loved it.

Oh, yeah? What? Wow. Oh, a lot of fans. It slapped, if you will. All right. Yeah. Wow.

Dumbo in holes getting big pops tonight. They love it. No, yeah, it was great. There was a lot of just men who hated elephants. That's an endorsement? Well, I mean, it was an interesting, I just trust that that must have been what that was like back then. Oh, sure.

So, you know, they loved trains and they hated elephants. Unfortunately, the two usually arrive at the same time. That's conflict. That's dramatic conflict you need for a film. How was Casey Jr. in that movie? He was there and they played the song in the instrumental. So that was all I wanted from the movie, and it happened immediately. So kind of like the ride, the best part was like the very beginning.

And then it was okay to leave, but you're already there. Yeah. Very nice. But you stay. You sit. You don't climb out? Yeah. Yeah. Very nice. But you stay. You sit. You don't climb out. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, that's why I get in the cage. In case you're tempted. Exactly. This will force me to finish the ride. Yeah. Well, we all love it. Clearly. You know what they should have us ride in cages for?

It's tough to be a bug. Yeah. No. Too soon, the audience. Rest in pieces, Hopper. That awful thing. It's still in Florida, right? You can still. Yeah, it's in like the most beautiful thing in Animal Kingdom.

Oh, that's right. They decided to put their worst attraction in there. The park icon. Oh, yeah. It's inside the tree of life, right? Yeah. I forgot about that. It's like this majestic kind of timeless feature that looks very tribal.

And then inside, it's just like the bugs from a bug's life make fart jokes at you. And other bugs you never met. Who are all those other bugs? Other bugs you never met, they throw things at you. It's just like Assault, the ride. They throw things, they spit at you. You get poked in the back, right? Yeah, you get slapped.

They crawl under you. You get slapped? I don't know. Do we think it was a slap or a punch? Oh, slapped in the back. I see what you're saying. No one just walks over and just hits you right in the face? It depends on the cast member that's working that night.

That was something I saw in a tweet about D23. Julia Lee Dreyfuss is doing a voice in an upcoming Disney movie, and someone was live posting from that panel, and they said, Julia Louise Dreyfuss, who we all know from A Bug's Life. Amazing. and they said, Julia Louise Dreyfuss, who we all know from A Bug's Life. What? That, not Seinfeld or V, I mean, I guess D23, okay. If you only watch G-rated films and make yourself only hear about G-rated films,

I don't know how to do that, but that'd be the way. Any closing thoughts about Casey Jr. Circus Train? For the Disneyland's 50th anniversary or something, they painted the front, they painted Casey gold. Nice.

Wait, which part of him? I don't remember that. Him, his face. Oh, I don't like, no. Yeah. No. They poured potentially don't like, no. Yeah. No. They poured potentially unhealthy paint all over him. Oh my God.

Really? That's horrible. They did that, I think, to a lot of the trains. They did like a golden version of a lot of the cars. Yeah, one ride car from each, but it's weird when it's the face of the train. Isn't that how Goldfinger killed his enemies? Yeah.

That's where my mind went as well. Like he murdered that woman with gold and paint. Like he killed her. That's fiendish. Casey Jr. has enough trouble breathing as it is. He's huffing gold paint. Yeah, yeah. They didn't paint Lincoln gold. They's huffing gold paint. Yeah, yeah. They didn't paint, like, Lincoln gold.

They painted just his face gold. Just his face. Although, I would have packed the room. What they should have done, they should have painted him bronze. Oh. Oh, copper. Copper.

God damn it. Kind of bronze. Shit. God, I was so happy with myself for a second. And then immediately upset. You're going to be relitigating that all night. You're not going to be able to sleep. I looked the fool.

That bronze error. Just once tonight I looked foolish. Every other thing I look cool and like a hero. Anything else? Plus ups? We kind of forget to do this I want a car that says

adults only so I know where to go so I'm not taking it it should not look fun or cool at all

it should be just utilitarian and like I just know I can go there I'm not taking a cool car away from a kid I'm trying to think

they played Steely Dan in there. It's still a cave, but it's like a different... This is my plus-ups, Scott, not yours. They play... They just play the Barenaked Lady's album Maroon in there. Their best album

produced by Don Waz. Anyway. They ask who Don Waz... Do you know who Don Waz is? And that's how they decide to let you into the adult's car. Very well, right this way, sir. You can describe the hats that he wears. Yes, walk the dinosaur, yes, right this way. Yeah, I don't know about a cage that says adults only.

I've got a more wholesome train-based one. A quiet car where I could get some work done. And expanding on that, make the ride like five times longer so I could really get some work done. I will say, a nice length ride. Do you mean the train longer? Or the train is longer?

No, expand the track. I would love it if you could go through like a forced perspective versions of like the Dust Bowl or like just flat Midwest plains or something. Ride the train to escape all that. Yeah, yeah, ride the train to escape it. I mean, it's a nice length ride. You see little children waving?

Yeah, little animatronics. Yeah, stop. And then there's a ringmaster. Your town doesn't have enough money for us to stop here. We're looking for coins. I assume that's what they just called money in the olden days. Yeah, up until 1920, everyone just used coins. Pay me in coins, young man.

Satchel full of coins, which is actually still how Jason pays with everything. What could they take Casey Jr. off and put it on the tracks for the Disneyland Railroad? I believe it is a small... Both, I believe, are narrow gauges, railways. So it sounded like a yes. No, but I'm saying I think Casey might be smaller tracks.

Is there a way, though, to modify it? Switch trains on be smaller tracks. Hmm. Is there a way, though, to modify it? Switch trains on the different tracks. Oh. Disneyland Railroad on the Casey Jr. track. Casey on the Disneyland Railroad track. What if they put it on the Space Mountain track? Yeah.

Oh. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. There should be more track switching, don't you think, at the parks? Yeah, mix them up. We're all tired of the way, we like all the rides, but we know it the way it is.

Time to mix it up. Put that Skyway bucket that you saw on the D23 floor on the Incredicoaster. Float it down Pirates. Yeah, I would love that. Yeah, that is a good idea. Another plus up, could one of the cars be the old time hobo thing where you would two people stand and they pump the thing to make it move? Maybe that's even separate from it and you actually are powering it.

Yeah. I would go on that every time I was at the park. In a heartbeat. There's one of those parked at the Main Street Station for the Disneyland Railroad, and it's just taunting me. It's just I can't get on it. Well, they have a ride like that at Knott's at Snoopy. Yeah.

At Camp Snoopy. Can you do it? Can you operate it? Yeah, but not. But you have to be shorter than like 20 inches or something. It's to be an infant. It's to be a tiny baby. They're putting infants to work.

Yeah. Generating their power. That was my favorite ride at Knott's when I was still short. Wow. It was good. Yeah. All right, so steal it from Knott's. Add a baby pumping machine.

Right. What do you call that? And then just don't say adults only, but say for people over... Big boys. Big boys. Big boys. That sounds like you could call a child a big boy, though. They're allowed to. That's fair.

That's okay. Well, no, that defeats the whole point of it. I don't know what you want. I just want a cast member to tell me where to go. That's what I want. You want to be able to fit your legs into the thing is what you want. Yes, I'm 6'3". He fits.

You just got to bend him up a little. All right, I'll go on. All right. All right, well, I think that covers us on Casey Jr.'s circus train. I have a suggestion for plussiness. Oh, wait, sorry. It's intense. Hear me out.

Yes, absolutely. Okay, so J.K. Rowling really wanted a Hogwarts Express when they were talking about putting Harry Potter Land in. So the way they could get her back is if they just paint the Casey Jr. in the color scheme of the Hogwarts Express and just assert that that's what it is. And then like they have the trolley which go by with like chocolate frogs, which delays the load time by like 15 minutes. And then they have costumed performers like, blimey, Harry, there's monkeys on the train. And that's kind of it.

It's the same ride, but it just looks different. You can still see the molding of what's obviously a circus train. There's still a cage, but it's weirder now. The thing that says, the car that says wild animals, they just cross out and put Harry Potter. Yeah, Harry Potter. Harry and his friends. So you could sum up that plus up by saying,

just fool J.K. Rowling. Trick her. Yeah, she would fall for it. Sure. You would put one card that just says Johnny Depp on it, and she'd be like, yes, please. Yeah, as soon as she sees the caboose, it says Johnny Depp.

She's all on board. She loves Johnny Depp. I don't know why. Yeah. Sure. Loves Johnny Depp, hates Jeremy Corbin. That's not how you're supposed to be aligned in 2019. So it'll say no Jeremy Corbins on the train.

Oh my gosh, they could add an extra Jack Sparrow animatronic to be Grindelwald. Oh yeah. They just put like a gross wig on him If the Imagineers are listening On the other side of the wall Which I know they are Feel free to take any of these ideas Tony, Joe Rohde

They're all there we know Listening to our brilliant things Let's go load up on a bunch of wine And go like Find them at all the bars where they are tonight and shout all these ideas in their face. That's the rest of our evening.

But you know what? We have one more quick thing before we wrap up and we let you get to your ride, sir. Your mic check ride. One more PTR 23 announcement. It's a sneak peek at an upcoming podcast the right event an event that's bigger than

our podcast it's bigger than all of us really bigger than anything they're showing down at the convention center and if you have a pillar blocking your view of the screen feel free to move the audio people listening at home will post this

you're going to be a little in the dark, but there's a haunting audio track that you can listen along to. Yes. And yeah. And hopefully they collected all your cell phones at the door. Put them in those bags. Did Andrew Grissom

do that? We've got those bags. I see. He's got a big sack of phones back there. Okay, so. Oh, wait. I'm going to go turn the lights off. Oh, yeah, yeah. We should turn the lights off. We'll cut this part out. Let me ask Jason. Jason, what did you have for breakfast?

I had the Special K protein with golden raisins in it. And I had iced coffee with almond milk. Thank you. Lunch? A iced coffee with almond milk. Thank you. Lunch? A couple slices of leftover pizza. Did you eat dinner?

Also pizza. I was hoping. All right, I did it. I arbitrarily turned off some of the lights, but maybe turned on other different ones. Yeah, that's true. Mission accomplished. All right.

We all can see this relatively well. Here we go. To the screen. Oh, not that. Edit that, too. Edit that, Alec. One more. We'll edit this out.

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So maybe I'll see you there We can forget all our troubles Forget all our cares Don't go downtown Forget all our cares, so come downtown Everything's waiting for you Downtown Downtown Downtown

All right. All right. All right. Okay. Wow. Wow. Boy, that was thrilling. I hope you're all excited. And, you know, I know there's been a ton of rumors about this thing.

A lot of speculation. There's so much buzz online about, you know, what are they going to do? How are they going to cover Sugar Boo? You know, are they going to have a guest handle a little mismatched? We've seen it.

We know there's so many rumors, so much speculation. But there's one thing that I don't think has been rumored about, and we're going to leave you with that. One more quick little announcement. Earl of Sandwich.

Ladies and gentlemen, Mike Mitchell will be covering... Our very first guest returns. Mike Mitchell, Earl of Sandwich. Every bit akin to Mahershala Blade. All right, well, we can't wait. We've got to get to work. We've recorded none of it, and it comes out really soon. So we've got to get to it. Maybe we'll go start tonight.

I don't know. But for now, you all survived Podcast the Ride live at D23. Thank you. Thank you so much. Jenny Nicholson, thanks for being here. Thank you. Exit through the gift shop. What's that?

Let's exit through the gift shop. Is there anything you'd like to plug, Jenny? Nope. All right. Star Wars video someday, correct? Yeah, Star Wars land and trains. Great. That's part of it now.

All right. And Mike, you got to get to work. You got to get this gentleman on a ride. Anybody who's going back to the park, have fun at D23 tomorrow, but don't have as much fun as you had here at PTR 23. Thanks so much for coming, everybody. Thank you.

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