Podcast: The Ride - Churros with Mike Mitchell

Episode Date: June 12, 2020

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Warning. The following podcast may be satisfying on its own, but once you start adding like flavors and toppings, it might just get too gimmicky. You know what I mean? Podcasting tit Titan Mike Mitchell joins us for the ultimate discussion of churros on Podcast The Ride. welcome to podcast the ride the only theme park podcast where we have to stop halfway through every episode to swap out these six propane tanks that power the show i'm jason sheridan uh joined as always by mike carlson uh yes i am mike carlson uh yes we we're we're doing something backwards i feel like as far as uh being able to record here i feel like we're using an old school way of powering we really should just use some sort of electrical system but but we're not. No, no. We're using clean burning propane.

Was that a Johnny Carson? Was that Johnny Carson? No, that was Hank Hill. I think it was Hank Hill. Oh, yeah. It's close, though. It's close. That's Scott Gerner.

Yeah, yeah. Good voice and good recording method. Yeah. I mean, now that we all have our six separate tanks, we're we're certainly burning through a lot but it's the only way to get it done yeah you gotta do what you gotta do um yeah boy this is a this is a fun one this is fun to talk about for a little while talk about things you miss from uh the days of theme parks being open i'm uh i'm excited to have some mouth memories. Oh, oh, oh.

What was wrong with that? That's an acceptable phrase, I feel. You hit me recently for saying gross stuff, but that one, I don't know why that one hits me real strange. Mouth memories. It's perfectly natural. When you're thinking about something that you ate once, it's a mouth memory.

I'm impressed. I love it. And today it's mouth memories of one of our favorite uh things to munch on which is a big foot long rod it's mouth memories of foot long rods what is this what is this innuendo these are just things that i'm saying innuendo i don't know what you're talking about it's what we do it's what a churro is this This is not our podcast. This is not the podcast I know. Hey, let's bring in our guest, a man who deals professionally with mouth memories. You know him from the Doughboys and the Birthday Boys.

It's Mike Mitchell. Hey, guys. How are you? Hi, Mitch. Great. Thanks for joining us. I don't know if I want to be known as the mouth memories guy, but I guess I'll take it. Provisional mouth memory historian, Mike Mitchell.

I do have a lot of good, nice mouth memories over the years. It's like regular life where you have good memories and bad memories. The bad memories usually just burn in your mouth. I think burning your mouth is the bad memories yeah nothing like a burning a burning sensation a burning mouth memory no yeah acidic you don't like that yeah we're getting like i don't know when you're younger getting dirt or fucking dog shit in your mouth or something wait what dog shit you know how kids you know how kids always wrestle around they get a bunch of dog

shit in their mouths i mean that wasn't my experience but oh man that happens all the time back where i'm from jason jason do you have that experience as well since you're more from that part of uh of the country yeah well no but i'm I'm not the king of mouth memories, you know? I'm not. Maybe this is maybe a good point of discussion. What is everyone's worst mouth memory? What is the worst thing that you've had in your mouth? And I'll start just to give you guys time to think of one.

One time I was really dumb as a kid kid although still too old of a kid i think i might have been nine or ten and i had i was so absent-minded that i i think i did like chew on stuff i wasn't supposed to chew on like toys and uh even like a wire or something i did chew stupidly and i picked up i was like you know robotically picking up a glass of water and then just instead picked up a like a loose wire of like an AC adapter. I remember it was for a portable TV and I just put it in my mouth against my tongue and it gave me a shock. So probably the stupidest thing I ever did.

It wasn't that bad of a shock, but definitely a shock. That is, that is more insane than wrestling around and getting dog shit in your mouth it really is because i chose it there were plenty of things there was there were edible things near me there was water yeah why would i put just the end of a plug did your hair frizz out like a mad scientist um and i i became a different person i started to like speak in different voices as if i was getting different uh you know frequencies from the radio right yeah you know in a baddie coda-esque situation wow are you can you still do you still feel electrified on certain

nights uh if you ever see anything weird happening you know the like patterns in the sky or uh Do you still feel electrified on certain nights? If you ever see anything weird happening, you know, like patterns in the sky or what you think might be a meteor shower, it's me. It's still residual from this nine-year-old accident. Wow, that's crazy. You're like a Jamie Foxx Electro character from The Amazing Spider-Man 2. Jesus. What, Mitch? What's wrong? It's a good mind memory,

that movie. Yeah. I will say that it's the music when Electro turns into Electro or whatever is so bad that it is kind of funny. Isn't there like,

isn't there a music? Isn't there music? It's like electro man. Like there's like weird background music when he becomes electric. Do you know what I'm talking about? I think I do, but I don't. Yeah.

Yeah. I kind of do, but I don't know. I don't remember anything about it. I mean, I just, I remember just like the whole thing is ridiculous. And I was laughing the whole time.

Let me just say this is wrong, but it's something like electrify, like kill them all, electrify. It's very, very, very shitty. I remember that much. Man, I'm trying to find it. I can't. If we find it, we'll post it, though. I want to hear this.

If not, we'll just lay in. We'll like use that little sample of you just now we'll make another track and we'll lay it under the actual movie and that'll just be what people think like your mind everyone's mind memory of this in 20 years will now be your soundtrack for Electro. I hope so. Any other mouth memories? Oh, you're asking Mitch or you're asking all of us? Anybody. Well, if you want a bad one, and it's not- I want the worst.

I want as bad as you can go. Okay. Well, I had a surgery when I was, I think, in seventh or eighth grade because I had too much gum. There was too much gum like there was too much gum in my mouth and not chewing gum experiment oh damn no no no i had like excess gum and they were like well we're gonna cut it off oh so i went and had a surgery and they put me out for it but i remember it so it was like one of those surgeries where like they didn't really

like completely knock you out i think they just gave me the gas so i i have memory of being kind of half asleep and woozy feeling like a knife on my gums oh oh my god dear Dear Lord. It was kind of traumatic. This is a Joker origin story. Yes, that's a good point. Gas that made you crazy and then a knife on your face. And I asked for the mirror, and the surgeon gave me the mirror, and I said, oh, wow, that looks a lot better. Thank you.

That's great. That mirror moment is great in the Simpsons it was a it was Paragon Simpsons which you know yes that's one of those where I knew the parody first and not maybe had not seen the original yet yeah oh wow yeah yeah um I I have some bad mouth memories let's's hear them. One of my first ones, and I think that it made me hate this creature more than anything, is that I was at my grandma's house, and I had a Coca-Cola, and it was on the porch. I took a sip of it, and then in my mouth, I felt moving. What I pulled out was a carpenter ant. Oh, no.

Oh, man. It was pretty big. And it just stuck with me forever that i could like feel all of its legs in my mouth oh yeah i'm looking those up those are huge oh my god like like uh like penny sized yeah people it's funny because like people on people in california like ants are cool and look ants are cool in their own way like they like are you know they do their little thing and they're like they're like a little crew and they're really tiny out here but on the east coast we just have a lot of carpenter ants which are kind of like these bigger black ants and they like are more to me like they always felt more like cockroaches were like in your kitchen or something.

If you had stuff out there would just be like you'd move it and then there'd be like seven of those big things and they'd all scatter and it sucked. Yeah. Oh, but I also ate. I also was at the, I was at LAX airport and I ate a La Brea bakery sandwich and I bit into it and there was a stone in it like a little rock.

Oh, that was a bad mouth memory i have a lot of bad mouth memories mitch didn't you but weren't you with me somewhere where you bit into something hard yeah i was at um it was at um what's it called the hillstone oh yeah all right why do you i think so do you oh was it bone yeah it was bone yeah it was from the it was from the the the french dip sandwich yeah i i think i've had a similar experience with that same establishment and that same sandwich. Really? Yeah, I think they're just going too fast because they do everything from scratch there. And I think sometimes they're just going too fast. Not that I want to drag out all the bad...

I have a couple of quick bad mouth memories. Sure. Worse than the bone. Okay, so both so i too the first time i i think it was like one of the most i've ever been sick to my stomach and it felt like such a betrayal because i liked it so much the place and it was the wendy's uh super bar that's what it's called can someone anyone know if that's right that they used to have a little buffet i think it was called the super bar yeah um and it was salad tacos and spaghetti and uh we loved it everyone in my family loved it and i

had it when i was like once in elementary or middle school went to bed and just woke up in the middle of the night and just it was just bad uh in terms of unpleasantness um i got my wisdom teeth out um uh summer after my junior year in college and uh i was i was you know on the mend for like three or four days like i was i was starting to feel better so i went into this like desk job internship i had uh you know the the monday after i think i had it done on a thursday and i was like i think i'm okay to go into work and it was starting to hurt and uh so I just like took a Vicodin or whatever and then it was like lunchtime and I'm like man I'm starving I I had just like kind of started doing solid food again and I went and I because it's me

I got a kielbasa sandwich a big kielbasa because i just wanted some comfort food and i bit in and it was one of the most painful sensations i've ever experienced oh my god oh no spices and the salt or everything and i just like threw it in the garbage and went to my boss and was like i'm sorry i i have to go home i i overestimated how i was feeling that's a tough surface that like it could be pretty taut the um the sausage casing yeah for sure one of the most taut foods pretty taut yeah soft roll but taut surface yeah you're right what's totter i yeah is there a tauter food mitch you're the expert a totter no i mean my stone sandwich from labrea bakery is more i i uh jason i i went out too early after I had my wisdom teeth removed and I went drinking

and I remember just like blood leaking into my mouth from the wounds, like from the spots where I was stitched up in my mouth. Yeah, mine was... I shouldn't have been drinking booze and it thinned your blood. Mine stuck around. My recovery was long. I had sores for a while and

bone spurs, little pieces of bone slowly peeking through my gums. You couldn't serve. Yeah, I was gonna say I know. Yeah, yeah, that was they I was using like prescription grade mouthwash for like months after that bone spurs in your mouth. Yeah, I was using prescription-grade mouthwash for months after that.

Bone spurs in your mouth? Bone spurs, yeah. That's wild. I was back to work a day later after my wisdom teeth were gone. I know everyone has a wildly different experience with that. My friend was in bed for two weeks, and I was back to work the next day. It's weird how that is. By the way, I was going to say a taut food.

Taffy? Is taffy taut? I think so because there's a pull to it. That seems right. There is a pull to it, but it is also like, yeah, you're right. I guess I don't know. You're right. It's something that's tight, right?

Like, oh, jerky, beef jerky. There we go. Jerky is good. Yeah, like diner steak, like diner skirt steak, I feel like. Yeah, it's interesting, though, because the kielbasa has, like, the skin, the outer skin is the taut thing. It's almost like it has, like, a taut shell. Yeah.

It's like the whole item is not the same consistency so like with a steak obviously sometimes the outside is a little bit more cooked than the inside but i it's it's hard there has to be different classifications here is what i'm saying sure i was i picked something that literally you can keep stretching with taffy but still in my mind that is a hard candy to eat it is um i don't know i i guess like rock crystal candy i guess which is probably which will factor into today's topic by the way a little spoiler yeah yeah uh they have interacted with with churros i think maybe it's if you took um taffy and pulled it over something else like it would have the tautness of a casing so if you like

if you made a sausage out of taffy with the taffy lining yes how come how come that hasn't happened yet it should what would go well with it what would be good inside with what filling do you want in a taffy sausage buttercream so like something soft something something with give you know more than taffy i think i agree i said i vote egg. Just yolk? Yolk, yeah. Just yolk. Yellow yolk. And not like Cadbury style.

You're talking about just actual egg. You take it out of the shell and put it into a different shell. That is my vote. So far, this podcast is a uh it's something for jigsaw to listen to because it sounds torturous um well maybe what all this is served to do is make the idea of our topic that much sweeter we've had all of our worst mouth memories that now i mean all in any world we'd be thrilled to to to think about churros but now how great does a churro sound to you after all

that shit yeah very i mean very appetizing yeah uh no a hundred percent i'm i i would kill for one right now i want one very bad. It sucks. Yeah, I know. We're still doing this in quarantine times, we'll say for the historical record. And of all of the things that you can't get in the parks, and remarkably, there's no mobile service situation. I'm sure there are places that sell churros, perhaps even superior to Disneyland churros in and around the city and other cities. But yeah, I'm missing them a lot from theme parks right now. And Mitch, this was your call.

This was something you wanted to talk about. Well, there was as far as things to. Yeah, I mean, there are a few things that when I go to the parks that I do every time I go. I feel like there's never a time I don't do it, which is fucked up because I've gone like, you know, twice in a week or whatever. So I shouldn't be doing it. But getting a churro is the big one to me. And I can remember so specifically the first time I ever even heard of churros, which was before we went to Disney. I think it's the time my family took a Winnebago down there

with another family, my godparents' family. And my godfather's son, Neil, was just talking about churros. And I didn't even know what they were. But I loved fried dough because I was a kid. And then like, oh, it's kind of like fried dough, but it's a stick of fried dough. And it was kind of the most exciting thing I had ever heard of. And then I can't really remember that because I can barely remember anything. I mean, I remember parts of Disney World

in my head, but I was probably like eight, seven or eight years old when we went down there this time. I don't know if I remember specific... I have a vision in my head that we were near the Country Bear Jamboree the first time I ever had one, but I can't remember specifically.

I kind of associate them with Frontierlands in general. I feel like that's, you know, you can get them a bunch of places, but that tends to be one in the parks. My two spots, I have two spots in Disneyland, but I want to hear everyone's, I want to hear everyone's general thoughts. Well, there are a lot more, there's a lot more spots in Disneyland. There's certainly spots in disney world but disneyland they're they're like kind of everywhere and started in in the disney form

started at disneyland not at disney world all right all right um yeah what's what are the perennial spots we feel we feel like in the in the parks where do you do it man my two spots are so when i get into the park i usually now this is going to probably fuck people up because they probably don't do the same route but i i go to tomorrowland first i go in and i take a right towards tomorrowland and i usually get a fast pass for either star wars or space mountain i try and i just see what's available obviously and then usually space mountain is like a thing that you have to wait either Star Wars or Space Mountain. I just see what's available, obviously. And then usually Space Mountain is like a thing that you have to wait the entire, you know,

a few hours for or whatever, or sometimes the whole day. It's exactly my route, exactly what I do. Yeah. Oh, do you really? Yeah, yeah. And it's kind of good to do it because Star Tours has, like, if you check the weight on that, that's sort of your litmus test for everything else in the park.

Like, if that's crazy, you go, oh, it's it's gonna be bad and maybe there won't even be a space mountain option yeah yeah no that's that's and look it's not that like uh it's not like this is like some sort of really thought out route it's basically going straight and taking your first right yeah it makes sense to me right but um when i'm there i i usually do um i'll get on uh the buzz light year ride uh if especially if that's just like a walk-on because i think that's fun the buzz light year shooter master what is the map bug buzz light your blaster astro blasters astro blaster okay um and then i'll do that i'll do that right and then i'll get off and i'll get a churro Astro Blaster. Astro Blaster. Astro Blaster. Okay. And then I'll do that.

I'll do that right. And then I'll get off and I'll get a churro. It's basically against... You guys will know exactly where I'm talking about. But it's when you're walking towards Space Mountain. And it's kind of like right there where the kind of split happens. Where you can go to get food to the left or go towards Space Mountain to the right. You know what I'm talking about? Oh, yeah.

It's like in front of Star Traders, the gift shop, the Star Tours gift shop. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And I'll go there. I'll get myself a churro and a Coca-Cola. So it's maybe like in your first hour in the park. It's an early part of the day for you.

Yeah. Usually the thing is is that like driving down there i never want to i never really want to get food and if i do get food i'll tell you what i do if i do get food but but driving down there i like i'm like oh i want to just eat theme park food for the entire day and so like a lot of times you go down there you know it's an hour ride or whatever hour plus and so a lot of times you'll grab something like a lot of the times you go down there, you know, it's an hour ride or whatever hour plus. And so a lot of times you'll grab something like a coffee and a bagel or whatever. But if I don't eat anything at all and I'm just driving down there straight out, that will be like kind of my first snack of the day is a churro and a Coca-Cola.

The healthiest of all breakfasts. Yeah, that's a lot of sugar, Mitch. It's a lot-Cola. The healthiest of all breakfasts. Yeah. That's a lot of sugar, Mitch. It's a lot of sugar. Hey, in my mind, Jason, it's a theme park day. I'm doing the parks. I'm right there with you. No, trust me.

I mean, a lot of times if I'm going early in the morning, I may have already had my share. I may have gotten coffee and donuts or coffee and Danish on the way down before I left the city. And then are you still doing a churro or no? I don't. I get a churro every now and then, but they're not usually one of my go-tos.

Yeah. Oh, interesting. Yeah. I agree with Jason. Not one of my go-tos either. This makes so much sense because it is mine. And I feel like we're often on separate sides of the tree scale. And I get churros way more than anything else.

What are you guys? For Carlson and Jason, what is a thing when you go to the park that you get almost every time you go? Jason, go ahead. I usually, I mean, I'm a big chocolate guy. So I'm usually want something from either one of the candy stores, like one of the confectionaries, or some sort of elevated ice cream. Not just a scoop. Not just a scoop. Either like a scoop with a chocolate cone or a sundae or a milkshake.

Yeah, because like you're saying, it's a theme park day. Some of the little chocolate cake or treats back in Star Wars, back in Galaxy's Edge. There's these little chocolate and passion fruit puff balls uh those are very good um i'll say uh what's the ronto wraps have entered the the permanent i get it every time for me it's now on the list yeah ronto wrap is like the best thing i and then the vegetarian option is really good like ranta wrap is i that might be the thing i'm craving from the parks the most right now yeah it's so good that that that that for me i you guys know that i that i love pizza port i'm a fan of pizza port

and uh yes have we i was trying to remember have we talked about this on the show or is this just a sidebar conversation? Because that's a topic we really want to do with you, but I feel like we all got to go down to do it. I don't want to do some bullshit Zoom version of the Pizza Port episode. Right. No, yeah, we got to go down and sit in the Pizza Port. I genuinely like the Pizza Port, and I like big theme park-y slices of pizza,

and that is exactly what Pizza port is is a big fucking looks like a looks like it's from a movie it's per i mean it's perfect and it look it's not the best pizza in the world but it's i think it's damn good and they got giant pepperoni slices on there it's a blast i love pizza port but i want to wrap over that think I need to wrap. We all have thoughts. Very early in the podcast, Mike and I went down one day and ate at Pizza Port to try the hamburger pizza. And I remember we sent pictures to Scott and he was so horrified. And kind of rightly so, because it did look like a big pile of garbage. I mean, that was a special event pizza.

It was a limited time offering. They got specially shitty. I think my thought, and I don't want to ruin the episode, because we'll do that as its own thing, but I think I love what you're saying, Mitch, and you have me sold on the idea of it the idea sounds great but i feel like the reality is lacking i think that pizza over the year i feel like i've watched it get uh more expensive smaller slices and shittier quality like just every year they shave off a little bit a little bit until like a pretty wow. That's a five dollar hunk of pizza.

That's all right. But it's pretty good. Now it's I feel like nine dollars and the quality is a little questionable. I always I always just feel like I can get two of those. I can get two slices of pizza, poor pizza. And which is I mean, you're right that they have gotten smaller but they're pretty decently big and i'll be good for the rest of the i mean i'll be i'll be fine and a churro i got a churro on that that's a theme park day to me i'm very happy so kind of serviceable like quick salads

at pizza port too that's true like oh i just need some vegetables. I've been eating garbage. Those big pieces of garlic bread in the red bag. A delicious salad. It's garlic breadsticks. Breadsticks, yeah. See, people like pizza port. You like it. It's good. Well, I know how this goes, where if I don't like it,

then not only are the other hosts against me but 85 of our audience so this is the beginning of the pizza part is good movement and i recognize that there's better pizza on property there we go there's better there's better pizza but sometimes you want like school cafeteria pizza and where where is this better pizza where is it the pizza the vianapoli the pizza in downtown disney is like actually like very solid pizza

see not on the not on the lot get out of here that's yeah you want to you don't want to leave the park is what you're like if you're stuck in there those gates on you know i don't care i did look i think you know what jason i'm sorry to say this but i think eating in downtown disney is trash i think it's you say this having done our earl of sandwich episode you know what that was bullshit too i can't i my ears are a flutter i can't handle this there is there's good there's good

food food in downtown but i don't know i i want to eat in the parks i like eating in the parks and it's funny because i don't eat at a ton of places in the parks i pizza port is one of like one of my main spots and then i have eaten right there near near uh the like at in tomorrowland at the like that little state those stands there uh which is kind of like basic burger place yeah the basic burgers and stuff like that which people also kind of don't love um i don't know what's what part of this what part of the park is best for food but i will say if i don't get a churro in tomorrowland near near that uh the gift shop for star tours i'm getting it outside the haunted mansion um i think you yeah you guys i think you guys know the card i'm talking about oh yeah and i'll be a little later in the day if

i made my way over that way interesting Interesting. You know, it's weird. I feel like I don't typically go to either of those. I feel, I think my primary spot is one of the ones in front of the castle. And I, and I, that's like a night, like I feel like I get a nice iconic Disneyland moment because often you're rushing past the castle to get to other things. And that's the thing that makes you stop in that nice you know square area the hub and and be there for a minute and it's nice to be holding that big churro and looking up at the castle and kind of being in the heart of the place

and doing a primary disneyland thing that's what that's what i call a panic churro spot because for me if i'm getting one from there it's because I hadn't gotten a churro all day. And then, like, my fat guy mentality kicks in, and I'm like, I need a churro. And it's like me desperately trying to get one on the way out of the park or, like, crossing through lands or something like that. I like this strategy and psychology. This is all interesting. a yeah that's a panic churro spot for me i i truly i think that i think churros are the things i've eaten the most at disney i i i love them especially if they're look if it's a hot fresh churro come on it's unbeatable

now that's a great point uh there there's a i feel like there's a big difference between a hot, fresh churro and one that's been hanging out for a little while. Yes, and that's a huge issue. I mean, if you get a cold churro, it's still good. It's still good, yeah. It's a bummer. It bums me out. Sometimes, you know, if I get a cold churro,

that means I got to go searching for a hot churro after that. I got to get two in a day. That's fair. I'll tell you what I... I mean, the place I like the churros in is they've been doing, like, in terms of limited time stuff sundays with like a churro cut in half and wedged into a sunday and that's a place i like to see a churro um you can kind of tell that like this the margins on this uh or the the raw cost of the ingredients are like next to nothing because a churro, a sundae with a churro wedged in it is not that much more money than a sundae without a churro wedged in it.

But in my mind, it does elevate it. Similarly, like at some of the sit-down restaurants, they'll do like bite-sized churro bites with a dipping sauce. And I love a dipping sauce. i agree with jason yeah okay i was i'm just gonna like i think sometimes when i get it if i get a regular churro sometimes it does feel like well it's not so fresh and it's it's a lot there's a lot of it to eat and sometimes it feels like a little bit of a chore i usually like to split it in general but if there's some sort of specialty if there's some specialty one which when we were doing 80s at disney 80s night at disneyland there was a reese uh peanut butter reese's peanut butter

like pieces churro and we're like well that sounds like interesting let's's get it. We got it. It was not good. No. But we wanted to try it. But on the other side of that is like a year or two prior, my friend was out here and there was a s'mores churro with a little like marshmallow-y dipping sauce. And that was excellent. See, that's interesting because I was looking up all of the like different flavored churros they've tried, which Disney has gotten into in the last few years and i don't know i'm i think there's two issues one

like some of the flavors like i gotta say cookies and cream uh a solid ice cream a wonderful in a blizzard or a milkshake but cookies and cream as a flavor not my favorite uh not not one of my go-to when it's just like they just shove some crushed up cookies and some goo on there and then the other thing you run into with these kind of like variants of churros is you're creeping to six dollars or more like the value yeah the perceived value is starting to disappear. Regular churros are at $4.75 at Disneyland already. And Jason has an app to track this, like a stocks app. I did look this up. I looked this up and I wrote this all down.

The dipping sauces will get you probably around like $5.50. And yeah, I don't know. I i just the perceived value in my mind sometimes i feel like i feel i feel like a churro shared is a really good option although it goes pretty fast between two people i have i have i have a lot of thoughts on what you guys have all said uh uh i can probably just please i can just i can just sum it up by saying I'm angry. Oh boy. Oh, what happened? Where did where where were you made angry?

No, no, I'm not really angry. But also we didn't stop down for my dumb joke enough Carlson that it's a churro when you have to eat a cold one. Oh, that's great. Yeah, that's really good. The connection is a little my connection is kind of going a little in and out so i apologize yeah i think the fuzziness of our connection made the enunciation uh tougher i i missed it too i blame zoom oh well no it's good that now that i've brought it up multiple times and gotten churro out there I think that people are just probably bent over slapping

their knees right now. They paused the show probably. They probably chose pause. During these trying times, Mike Mitchell has given us some relief, some solace, just some laughs. The comedians are saving America's spirits.

All with Churro. Who would have thought it would be that easy uh i don't like i don't like a couple things you guys said one i don't like churros and ice cream i'm sorry jason okay um first of all it's cool it's cooling down the churro tomorrow you're getting a cold churro no matter what um and i don't like flavor churros and i don't like dipping sauces if i get a churro i want straight up chur i want i want pure chur pure chur i want pure chur pure chur that's what i say when i get to the front of the line oh pure sure um i i i genuinely just like the old classic version of it i now this being said my godfather's son who hyped up chores for me he's, he owns a restaurant in Quincy, and he had a restaurant in Braintree at one point.

Oh, wait, no. Weymouth Landing? Shit. Either one. It doesn't matter. Better get it right. In Weymouth Landing. That's where I was.

And he had Churros. It was called Passport, and he had a bunch of different foods from all over the world. It was kind of what the idea of the restaurant was, and it was a fantastic restaurant. And there was a churro dessert, and it had dipping sauces, and there was chocolate and caramel and everything. And I did enjoy those there, but when I'm in Disney, I don't need – when it comes to dipping, save it for a pretzel with cheese because i don't need uh i don't need dipping for the churro um mitch uh america i believe has agreed with you or disneyland guests have uh because i read somewhere that they did try to do dipping sauces as an add-on option in the carts and that they were they were pretty roundly rejected i think they weren't loved by the by crowds um but also what does this thing say it said they're they're difficult to sell and

hard to keep warm so it actually might have been more logistics than the audience rejecting them but uh they yeah dipping sauces did not take off at disneyland yeah that makes sense i mean like i love and i and i love the mickey pretzel with uh that is actually probably my second snack as far as as disney snacks go there's a mickey pretzel with the cheese with the cheese yeah yeah i do like that i don't get that often but i do like that i like the cream cheese one the stuffed one oh wow yeah that one's real good what is it stuffed with like sweet cream cheese really i think there might be a peppery there might be a pepper jack stuffed one too can you get the then you get the dipping cheese as well and no you

don't get the dipping cheese i think it's like one or the other oh you probably could get it you probably order it separate sure yeah that's an add-on though right yeah yeah it's an add-on yeah oh you're paying for it yeah you're gonna you're gonna pay you can get it whatever you want you're gonna pay mitch uh i'm i'm gonna make you more angry um how do you do you know about the caliente churro no but please do tell me is there cheese in it no it's kind of it's like rolled in uh red red hots red hots or or spicy cheetos uh that i have tried that one as well uh it's insane it's one of the craziest things uh man has ever attempted and man's hubris in creation uh it does it's like it's the sweetest sugariest craziest

thing there's no way you can eat even like a quarter of it i feel like oh have you tried it i haven't no i haven't tried it no honestly that's just it sounds like an abomination i i i would never i mean like even when it is like i've been tempted by like oh the strawberry churro but i just i i know that i just love the classic churro there's nothing better i don't i don't know about add-ons in general it seems like if i had to get mitch's hard no i don't know if i'm hard no but i haven't had a great example to change my mind uh mike are you sort of like amenable to it but you're also you haven't had a lot of success well as i said i seem to i from earlier when we were talking about treats i am generally i try to do one treat if it's a big day at disney

one treat a day and usually i save that till the end of the day and usually and i mentioned this before it's usually my two scoop cone with the sugars on the outside with the sprinkles that's usually what i get and i rarely do i i probably literally at disney have a churro a year probably like probably that we're pretty opposite this is kind of crazy so i i just it doesn't it's not in my top three, I think. So I totally recognize that if it's warm and it's good, the regular churro is delicious, and I've had a lot of now. I've tried these other versions, and most of them fail. I do think that s'mores one they had that I think was limited time is, I think maybe I even liked it better than a regular one,

and it had a dipping sauce. So I'm not, I like the experimentation with this, but I think probably in general they haven't really figured out a formula to, like, completely put new flavors in these things. Like, most of these things fail, these different versions. It's hard – I think it's hard to like you know it's like it's it's science here and it's you know you're you work very hard trying to come up with a new equation like a new formula and it just doesn't work most of the time it doesn't work adapting the churro into a new form i feel i feel like like i feel like it's like it's just as an american thing to get a new mainstream snack that would fit in at a theme park.

I just remember being around or being a kid when Buffalo Chicken became more popular and you saw it in more places. And even when that was happening, it felt like, is this going to work? Like Buffalo Chicken? And I mean, of of course i loved it but it felt it felt to have like a mainstay sort of snack or dessert at a theme park i mean i'm trying to think of like for me in my eyes with disney what are the rundowns of snacks you got pretzels you got churros you got ice cream you got got pickles. What are some newer within the last 10 years besides Ronto wraps or something? They've got a lot of different cookies. They have a lot of things in the confectionery.

They'll have a big piece of chocolate with peanut butter inside. They have fudge. I like these things called tiger tails that are like marshmallow with like sugar on the outside that looks like it's the cheshire cat's tail that's pretty good or tigger's tail um at disneyland a lot of the carts um the outdoor carts have the chimichangas or the corn. Oh, yeah. Not quite a lotte corn, but kind of similar.

Got some macaroon presents. Yeah. There's a Matterhorn macaroon. Although I have found that out from an article. I didn't really know this macaroon before, so I don't know if that's a primary. Oh, delicious. Yeah, it's a coconut macaroon that looks like a little mountain with icing on top but then the french macaroons have they've been making those more in the parks

um well i don't don't you think that churros are like a uh what's what's a good way to describe it a load-bearing snack that's not good um yo i like that yes a pillar foundational i found a foundation snack. Like ones that you can find all around everywhere, not specific to certain parts of the park, but could kind of float around. That's a good point, yes, because some of these things feel like they need to be in certain areas,

but there's nowhere where a churro is out of place. Yes. And also, I got to say say this we haven't talked about it yet ease of the ease of snacking with the churro you get the little piece of paper you got a big stick you just you're just taking a big bite out of that thing you don't you don't have to get any of the cinnamon sugar on there and on on yourself by on there is what i mean not it's great your body there's no there's there's no dipping involved you just you just eating the thing straight up i think it's i think it's just an easy snack for me to eat yeah well much like the um the revelation in the now classic film the founderer with Michael Keaton about the founding of McDonald's. The revelation that the burger

does not have extra plates or containers. It comes in its own wrapper. I think it's a similar simplicity to the churro. Yes. Yeah. The ice cream, when you're eating an ice cream, especially with two scoops, it's a race against the clock.

Yep. It's good, but it can be a bit stressful if maybe you're not feeling like you want to furiously lick. Oh, yeah, especially if you're in Florida. Man, watch out. Yeah, that thing. It's toast, but a churro, you can stroll

and you can split two major functions. And can I also just say this? It's not too hot that it's an issue on a really hot day. It's not an overly hot product where you're like, oh man, I don't really want to have a bowl of soup while I'm walking around. It's not soup in a bread bowl.

That's right. It's not soup in a bread bowl. Look, am I now trying to convince you that churros are the best snack in the disneyland parks by the end of this yes and i think that we're getting there i think i'm getting closer i feel like it's an argument it's not an argument for its people who don't like churros it's about like moving it from number four to maybe number two yes yeah i i yes i that i'm not arguing against it i just think i being at the park here's here's i think that perhaps the bare bones presentation of the churro

is part of maybe why it's not in my top three or five or something like an ice cream has a lot of colors the sprinkles have a lot of colors if i'm getting a cookie or something like an ice cream has a lot of colors the sprinkles have a lot of colors if i'm getting a cookie or something it's got i like a cookie with a lot of different frosting on it i do think perhaps when i'm in the park i am looking for something that feels a little more fantastical so the churro itself is pretty standard it's it's a brown and a sugar but it doesn't sort of evoke even the i know it's such a theme park food but it doesn't sort of evoke even the i know it's such a theme park food but it doesn't give me like the feeling like i'm in some sort of uh magical candy land it's a big long stick that you chew on but it doesn't have a face on it it doesn't

have sprinkles it doesn't have many colors it's good i'm, like, if it was like a magic wand, like maybe it was like Merlin's wand. Oh, my God. Churro. And it had a little color or something. Then I'm like waving it around. I'm pretending I'm a wizard. And then I'm feeling like I'm really part of this whole magical Disney day.

Or like in Japan, it's shaped like a mickey you know it's shaped like mickey's and it's classic if you look at it like you look down the barrel it looks like a mitt which i don't think i realized till our treats episode recently yes yeah in tokyo specifically tokyo specifically yeah yeah that's the other thing like i mitch i'd be inclined to agree with you but i feel like the the churro would get knocked out by the classic mickey ice cream bar in my at least in my concern the mickey ice cream bar is great yeah and also i just want i just want to quickly ask did carlson mean merlin from the sword in the stone you want it to be like his wand yeah i look Look, I'm just spitballing here.

It doesn't have to be Merlin from Sword in the Stone's wand, but I'm just saying he's one of the first ones. You know, it could be Fairy Godmother's wand. Well, hold on. My question to you guys is, Jason, your favorite snack at the park is, what was it, a bowl of sweet cream or something? A taffy sausage. I would probably go like a sundae.

Like an ice cream sundae. Some sort of cookie sundae. A soft drink cup filled with sweet cream. And Carlson, if I remember correctly, yours are Skittles? Mine are... I like a Disney shopping bag full of Skittles. Mike brings a thermos of Icy, and he's like, just a shopping bag of Skittles so I can combine it with my Icy thermos.

Yeah. I dip each Skittle in a different color part of the icy i just feel like look the the interesting snacks that's over in uh california adventure if i'm gonna get a a bread bowl with mac and cheese in it or a cone rather a bread cone with mac and cheese i'm going over to california adventure and that there's a reason that that's not available everywhere right like i love that i love the mac and cheese cone yes i i do too i mean like but churro is just a classic it's so great and i might i might bring this up mike i agree with you that there might be if there was some way to put a stamp on the disney i i like that in japan if you look down the barrel, it's a Mickey shape. I think that's cool, but it's not like it's still, it's a subtle detail. So subtle that I missed it entirely.

And so it would be nice if there was something to, you know, if it had Mickey ears on the end or something, but the whole thing, if it was a color and if it was flavored, as we've established, I think the flavors are no good. So I think it just for taste, it has to stay just basic and cinnamon and as it comes. You could do a food coloring, though, that wouldn't affect the taste. I suppose, but that feels weird to me. I'll go back to as much as it was one of the best moments of my life

to have a blue wine on the first morning of Galaxy's Edge. I still was drinking it and going but why this is just added food coloring i kind of you know as much as it looks cool i do i know it's just white wine with some blue in it what is the purpose of this blue i want some flavor out of my fake color right um so i have just i just googled this because i thought i remembered it and i was right i am texting everyone there was i think it might be limited time but they were selling lightsaber churros those yeah i remember that's good yeah that's good so i've so i think i think

they were just for an event and i've sent you a picture of them so that is closer to what i'm talking about i do think like it's a neon red and neon blue i don't even necessarily need it to be that different in color but i do think that just just just just just a food coloring that those still taste the same basically those those uh i have to i have to check i don't know that to be the case do you guys recall when there was a little trend of rose gold items in the parks? Yeah, I sure do. Sort of pink and gold. And did you, I think I might have been with you, Mike, when you had a rose gold churro.

Am I misremembering this? It's possible. Did I split it with Lindsay? Couldn't tell you that. I don't know. She's usually the one that likes the churro, I think, a little bit more than me. So generally, if we had it, it was like maybe she

wanted it and then we split it. I don't remember the... I don't have the memory of having the rose gold. I might be wrong. That churro was for millennials, so it probably tastes like freaking avocado toast. Or ass. Or ass.

Or ass. Carlson, I just want to say to you that I, I mean, and Jason, both of you, you're both volunteers. I can't believe you're not. I can't believe you're not really churro guys. I mean, I truly, uh, it flips my entire worldview about you guys. I, I, I, I, I'm shook to my core. it flips my entire worldview about you guys. I'm shook to my core. I thought you

clearly just assumed you were both churro guys. Well, I'm sorry to let you down. Yeah. I don't want to seem like I don't like them either. I also like, and I think these are in the same family, I am a big fan of those cinnamon twists at Taco Bell.

I love getting those. So you like the worst churro? Well, I'm saying that I like the family, and they don't have a lot of other options as far as dessert at Taco Bell. I mean, they do here and there, but I like a little of that. So I'm just saying, I'm just defending myself that I like. I'm in little of that. So I'm just saying, I'm just defending myself that I like, I'm, I'm in the family here. I just,

there's stuff makes me feel more part of the special, special world than a churro. I also have a sensitive cinnamon. Cinnamon. I find kind of irritating to the gums in large quantities. I love cinnamon toast crunch. Cinnamon's a bad mouth memory. What are you talking about? Mouth memory, but like it, it irritates. It love cinnamon toast crunch. Cinnamon's a bad mouth memory? Not a bad mouth memory,

but like it irritates. It can irritate. Cinnamon irritates you? Yes, you have a little cut or something or like cinnamon toast crunch if you don't let it like soak in milk. A specific crime, you're eating cinnamon when you have a cut

or eating kielbasa when you just had dental surgery or having a banana at 10 a.m. I read up. You know, you can overdo it on cinnamon. There's a reason dentists tell you, like, don't buy cinnamon toothpaste. It's it's it's not great. It's caustic.

Wait, is that a real thing? I have had dentists say, like, yeah, don't get cinnamon. Why would you have cinnamon? Yeah,, yeah, don't get cinnamon toothpaste. Why would you have cinnamon? Yeah, for sure. Don't have cinnamon toothpaste. It was a trend for a while. I know what you mean. There's like medicine that's cinnamon.

Yeah. Can I quickly ask, have you moved on to bubble gum toothpaste? Well, I'm on the birthday cake toothpaste. Cinnamon to me is a classic. I feel like cinnamon toast, obviously, when you're just cinnamon toast with butter and cinnamon on top of it is a great treat. I don't know if I like stuff that's cold as much that cinnamon. I don't love cinnamon cereals. I enjoy cinnamon toast crunch, but it wasn't my favorite.

I like Frosted Flakes. I think I enjoy cinnamon toast crunch, but it wasn't my favorite. I like frosted flakes. I like a more sugar. I mean, they're all sugar based, but kind of like, oh, it's cornflakes and sugar. I'm fine with that. Cinnamon toast crunch, not my favorite. I still like it, but I tried cinnamon Coke and cinnamon Coca-Cola is bad. Yeah, that's not great. It was not good at all. I think I enjoy cinnamon stuff when it's warm or hot, warm to hot.

Mitch, what do you think about horchata? The cold rice drink usually have very cinnamon forward flavor there. You know what? That is probably, you got me. That's probably the one cold cinnamon thing that I really like, that I do. I like a lot. I don't even know if I'd say I love it but I do really like it yeah I had

cinnamon toast crunch yesterday I like cinnamon I like cinnamon I'm you like cinnamon you like cinnamon toast crunch you like the Taco Bell things and not and I like cutting my mouth Crunch. You like the Taco Bell things and not... And I like cutting my mouth and pouring cinnamon into the wound.

I think it feels good. Cinnamon Toast Crunch is in the top five cereals, but I just can't overdo it. I can't overdo it. And the way that Golden Grahams do not irritate in the way that Cinnamon Toast do not irritate in the way that cinnamon toast crunch do another all-timer the double scoop ice cream with a cone with sprinkles there's so much going on i can get a i can get a sherbet scoop i can get a cookie dough scoop i can then enjoy eating the sprinkles

off the side of the cone that there's so many different things there that stimulate my mind as well as my palate uh that i enjoy like it's just such a ultimate theme park experience it feels so indulgent as you as a kid i used to like looking at a cartoon strip with you know like 10 different ice cream scoops on a cone and i'm not i'm not doing that obviously but i'm getting the closest yeah what cartoons what cartoon strips are you reading uh yeah what it was probably did dag would ever have a big ice cream cone in addition to a big sandwich you know he did you know he did jughead jughead was definitely he had a bunch of shakes bunch of scoops he had so many there's for sure if you look up jughead lots of scoops there has to be

a picture of him i will google it right now uh to so i always like that so that's it's just nothing is gonna beat that for me it has to be visually busier for you like a baby's mobile i am a lot like a baby that's called eye memory scott it's a cousin of mouth memory entertain me snack uh churro okay uh cinnamon brown board done straight line uh garbage put on a show for me snack and also on on top of that i can't believe that you guys chose the taco bell cinnamon twists which are like they're they're like the empty shell of sure they're like if uh i hate this analogy i'm about to do but if thanos snapped churros right before they were about to break apart they would be cinnamon twists from taco bell

shells they pay you to cart them away they're like please please we cannot get rid of we've had the same stock since 1989 and they're still good they still taste good i've sent you all a photo of jughead he's got one two three four five six scoops on an ice cream cone this is this is a guy this is one of my uh childhood heroes can you will you do uh jughead's line i'm gonna do the other line, and let's just enact this little scene of the cover you sent us. Okay, sure. It's very 70s is what we're looking at. It says, Teen Discotheque Light Show. Man, I dig having a lot of wild colors at my fingertips.

All right, and I have my tongue sticking out. It's like I'm licking my lips, and I'm holding that ice cream cone, and I say, tongue sticking out. It's like I'm licking my lips and I'm holding that ice cream cone and I say, so do I. Great scene. That was better than Riverdale. That was great. Wait, but hold on a second. No one died.

Hold on one moment here. Yeah. Jughead likes the ice cream. First of all, Carlson, you kind of look like Jughead likes the ice cream. First of all, Carlson, you kind of look like Jughead. Jughead is a tall man, and he's attracted to the color of the ice cream. You may be a lot like Jughead, and I see a lot of similarities is what I'm saying. Mike looks like Jughead.

I behave like Jughead. We're a dyad. We're a dyad in the force. In the river force. Are you Kylo and I'm Rey? I guess that's how it works out. By the way, Jason, you really should not bring up new Star Wars when Mitch is on. That is a dangerous.

That is really dangerous. We don't want to get off on a bad thing here. Well, we don't want to go down this route, but Mike, you set up a transition perfectly with this Jughead cover of the Teen Disco Tech Light Show. Goes right to the origin of Disneyland Churros. Oh, right, right, right. I'm assuming we all saw this apocryphal uh

perfect perfect story this is why yes mitch get ready to hear the tale of how the churro came to disneyland oh wow it's a lovely story jason go ahead well okay so there was a man named jim loman and he was in charge of the food and beverage services at Disney's Fantasyland and they were about to open a teen nightclub that one we we have talked about a lot on the show called Videopolis yeah and it's it's so fun it's so very 80s it's it's a lot of cast-off LA Olympics televisions rigged up to show the... Purple and teal triangles. Purple and teal triangles, all the big fonts and stars of the day. And he needed some sort of snack to sell back there to teens.

And he attended a race at the Long Beach Grand Prix and saw a churro booth and that it was very popular and you only needed a very small warming oven for it. And he found the company who made it, reached out, said Disneyland was interested, but they knew the churros they were selling were only six inches. So they knew they need a little a little more disney oomph to it a little more disney magic so they asked them to make it 12 inches and pretty much an immediate hit uh the the story goes that like as they were rolling out the cart they were going to test it out in frontierland first and just the smell of cinnamon sugar caused like 30 people to follow that cart and then they just kept adding churro carts.

Like the Pied Piper. Yeah. They could have driven those people right into the river. Right into the rivers of America. Jason, when was this? year was this this would have been uh 85 around the churro was born at disneyland in the summer of 85 right when i was born and shortly before me and uh the um who's the other big oh as we i alluded to at the top of the show

one of the big changes over the years of how they did this eventually as they added more and more churro carts they roped it into like the outdoor food and beverage vending uh along with like the popcorn and the ice cream carts and that sort of thing um but the original churro carts were loaded up with six propane tanks each and they would run out and they'd have to reload it and the other thing is propane tanks each. And they would run out, and they'd have to reload it. And the other thing is propane is explosive. Of course. That's insane.

Yeah. So this operated by teens, mostly. Teens wheeling around a bunch of propane in a theme park. Propane-w wielding teens and now you're now you're opening your opening makes more even more sense jason i thought you were just being funny yeah i it was not just a non-sequitur it was a very very specific uh reference to this story um jim loman also kind of got my ass in terms of some of my complaints about churros getting more expensive. He is quoted as saying, you know, people wondering like, well, food's a little pricey at Disneyland.

And the price of churros is just cinnamon, sugar and dough. It's like a kind of a donut, basically. basically and he says uh it's either low food prices and pay to watch shows and watch entertainment or higher food prices so that all that stuff can be wrapped up into one so i mean it's fair enough kind of uh kind of fair enough but they they also he includes in that fireworks live entertainment and clean restrooms uh i'm hoping you would have clean restrooms regardless. It's all that show money. You make them cheaper, and now

there's shit on the ground. Jim Lohman, also responsible for the barbecue skewers at Bengal Barbecue. Man, what a VIP. Is this guy a Disney legend? I don't know if he's still at the company, but it was something like multiple decades.

He worked for them, was still working for them in the 2010s. And he met his wife a long time ago at the Tahitian Terrace. And then she helped them figure, like in their kitchen, they figured out the Bengalengal barbecue menu together so the the whole family there's maybe maybe they're ptr legends yeah i think they they are i mean i we all have the official ceremony sometime this summer i assume we'll be at the anaheim hotel yeah so yeah and yeah distanced with markers and you know it'll be it'll be perfectly safe yeah very safe yeah see i can't

how are you even asking if he's a legend this is your your carlson you're a man with uh pure chur hate and pure pure pure chur hatred in your heart i can't believe your hurts your hurt i don't have sure hate in my heart. That's not true. It is true. I just have stronger ice cream love. The love for the ice cream is stronger in my heart. That's all. Ice cream?

Come on. Ice cream is little baby. Look, I love ice cream. Did you say ice cream is for babies? Look, ice cream is sometimes for babies, and I love it. And I'm a big baby, and I like to eat ice cream. I think you're trashing ice cream. This is going to be more controversial than your Force Awakens opinion. Well, Mike, I know you love all three of those films very much.

Of course. Would you like to elaborate? Mitch is the hater. I said that I loved Ronto raps that is the truth i love that's the first thing you've liked in the star wars universe and decades ronto raps are look i thought bb8 was like an impressive toy and it was only until i found out that they turned him into like a police robot recently that I kind of have been like everything. I kind of caught this.

That was the idea of the technology. The company. Yeah. The company that made the BB-8 is also now making like drones. So now there will be like BB-8 drones on the street. So if you see one, don't go near it. Yeah. We live in a dystop don't go near it. Yeah. We live in a dystopia in many ways.

Yeah, we already have to push the Postmates bots into the river. There's not going to be any river left soon. With all these robots in it. I have not ridden the... I've not been able to ride the new Star Wars. Rise of the Resistance. I have not been on that ride the new Star Wars.

Rise of the Resistance. I have not been on that ride yet. So my judgment of Galaxy's Edge, I just still kind of wish that Galaxy's Edge was like I said, I wish there was a Cloud City restaurant and I wish

that there was like Hoth and different parts of the like. I wish they went so all out on Star Wars land. Why wouldn't you your Disney you own you have more money than anyone else on Earth. Why not go crazy with it? I had more money than anyone else

on Earth. About two months ago. It's mostly tied up in like Saudi Arabia at this point. They got some of the fridge loans they bought a lot of the debt uh mitch i'll have to dig this up and send it to you but there there there was an interview with a former like executive from the florida parks and he talked about how disney mgm studios there was a plan to kind of uh make like a half half like i think it was hoth and half tatooine sort of leading back ending

it around star tours or no i think it was tatooine and endor and then that all kind of got scrapped once once disney eventually bought lucasfilm outright and it would have been so cool god damn it mitch i sent you that video that that when they were going to do lucas port yes and that yeah that to me is that video is heartbreaking it's a heartbreaking video wait explain it for the audience so so i there was a new information to me that like lucas was going to sort of oversee tomorrowland in a way um and it was going to be called lucas port i mean i know he was he obviously with captain eo and Tours was getting a more of an elevated profile but then there was a Star Wars roller coaster that I really wasn't aware of and it had photos from it like stuff that would have been on it and it was like you could choose your own path on the roller coaster and basically you were going through well

you know Dagobah you're going through the like the core of the Death Star, it looked like sort of your ultimate like original trilogy dream for a Star Wars ride. Like one. It did seem like exactly what Mitch would be intending. Sorry, I thought you were talking to Scott about his dream for a Star Wars ride. Well, it was for me too because architecturally, oh my god,

that was the most like Epcot-y 80s Disneyney future building i am upset that there is no lucas board for sure yeah yeah no no that that that that is that 100 is that is what i i wanted more than anything and i still want and i hope that they i mean like whatever there's a lot of there's a lot of there's a lot of stuff that is that is for real impressive about galaxy's edge and it is it is cool i just i just thought it was going to be more and maybe that it will be more with that with the hotel and everything and and and that will change things but i mean i think you'll rise of the resistance is very

impressive mitch and i'm sure you'll be down there soon as Disneyland opens back up because you've been a big proponent that coronavirus is a hoax and you're not going to get sick. It's not real. You guys know, open back up. That's what I said. From day one, I've been saying open back up. The virus can't be worse than the cure. Yeah. The disease.

Yeah. Yeah. The cure can't be worse than the disease. Mitch said that, and then Trump, I think, saw his tweet and then started saying it. Yeah. I want to push. I'm just going to tell people that every time I'm down at the park, I have a churro and I haven't,

and I haven't gotten COVID-19 yet. Churro is a remedy. I'm just saying there might, there's something there. There might be something there. It's a curative name. There's something curative about it. Like hydroxy chloropin,

whatever that's called. Yeah, it hasn't made you get COVID-19, so it very well may be the cure. That's all I'm saying. Sorry, you go ahead. No, no, no, you go. I was going to say, if there was a churro place nearby to your apartment, how often would you get one do you think

that's a good question because there was uh oh i know exactly what you're talking about and i didn't like that place i didn't like that place either and it was like such a it was like such like a in the la way of like oh there here is this like it was called churro burrow um and i don't want to say i didn't like a place that has now gone out of business i feel bad but they basically made churro ice cream sandwiches and that's all they did and they took over that they took over a place called i think it was called ramekin um which was just a dessert place and I thought was like fantastic and no one ever went there, but it was like they just would they serve like different desserts there and like would give you like a bread pudding or something like hot desserts too. It was great and no one really

ever went there and then Churro Bar opened up and it was strictly just like these churro ice cream sandwiches and I was like oh there's not enough variety for me and also like i said i don't like mixing the cold with the with the churro and i i didn't and i didn't think the place was was was that great it's gone out of business and that sucks so every every now and then there is a a street cart around in in los angeles um little street carts that have churros and they're really good yes yeah they yeah they'll they're i mean like bs taqueria had great churros um yeah and they have now since closed but i think they're reopening at some point there's there's places where you can get

some great local great churros here uh but but that place yeah there's one other disney churro question i had for everyone has anyone ventured mitch you've already made your feelings about downtown disney clear um has anyone tried the california churro company uh carts in downtown disney no it is like it is there's a lot of carts in downtown disney which we barely mentioned in the downtown disney ordeal because they're so impulse buy but there there is like a different kind of churro in downtown disney and to me it's just not canon like they've got so many flavors of churro and and I'm like, there's no way this is going to be good. Jason, I'm liking what you're saying here. I like this.

You're right. It just doesn't feel right. It just doesn't feel canon. And then there's popcorn fill, popcorn. It's just a little off. It's not the same stuff as in the park. It's a little strange. They have a Fruity Pebbles churro, right? Yeah. off like it's not the same stuff as in the park it's a little strange they have like a fruity

pebbles churro right or they yeah at least that seems like something i would try and it would be not as good as my mind would imagine it they have grape soda they looks like they have watermelon i don't know about any of this i don't watermelon sounds extra bad downtown disney failed me when i left the park and i didn't get a pretzel and i was really hoping to have a mickey pretzel and then i got to the wetzel's pretzel stand and they were closed too um you shouldn't call it downtown disney keep those things open when there's people around it's foolish and get them open asap open them up now as fast as you can. I mean, you're saying

that, but then I also was seeing on some Disney Twitter account that I follow probably because of you guys. Downtown Disney did open up today, right? They were opening up shops and stuff today. Florida. I don't know when this is coming out, but yeah.

These jokes could be not jokes by the time this comes out. Yes. Like everything could be open by the time this comes out. And by the way, if we released it tomorrow, everything could be open. I have no idea what's going on anymore. But the thing that will remain is that the grape soda churros at California Churro Company are probably questionable. Oh, Scott, that's right up your alley. Like a fine wine.

Delicious grapes. Exactly. The exact same thing. I was thinking maybe we could do a little. I don't want to dwell on any of these too long. I'm just going to try to quick hit them because I couldn't believe once I started once I started looking into it, how many bizarre churro variations there were. And I feel like we've not been kind to churro variations. If I could just kind of list a couple of these, uh, and,

and just the ones that seem like the most experimental and let me just get kind of a gut reaction from you guys. Uh, let's see. Apparently these are all for special events and stuff. At some point they tried a banana pudding churro rolled in vanilla cookie crumbles with banana pudding dipping sauce i don't know i don't know it depends like if that if a chef was doing that maybe but if it's like banana extract i don't know you need a precision. That needs to be precise to be good. Yeah. That's what you're saying.

So not teens? If teens are making it, perhaps not. Let's go a little more savory. Maple bacon churro. This was in California Adventure at one point in time. Dusted with cinnamon sugar and topped with maple icing and crumbled bacon. No. No.

My answer is going to be no for all of that, but that is no. Let's leave the maple bacon behind in the 2010s. I'm a big maple guy, but I don't... You're playing a real... You're really rolling the dice when you start sticking. Who knows when that bacon was cooked or how good quality it was. I don't know.

Yeah, it does often seem like charcoal. It seems like a year old. Yeah. I have some churro facts open on my computer. I searched fun facts about Disney churros. Yes, please. And in the video section, it says Disneyland churro facts, and the video is marked for 47 seconds long.

So there should not be a ton. I guess there should not be a ton. There's another video of how long is the Disneyland churro, which is somehow longer than the fax video. It's 50 seconds long. And in the preview of the video, it shows that the Disneyland churro is 16 inches long. Really?

That's bigger than I thought. Yeah. That's impressive. I think maybe they started it. Yeah, they definitely, again, wanted something longer. This was kind of a difficult episode to research at this moment because if you Google Disneyland churro, you just get bombarded with a million websites

who got content out of like Disneyland releases the churro recipe, which is, it's funny for a couple of reasons. One, they put up a video of how to make them like two years ago. It's not like it was this great secret. And,

um, two, it really feels like they're tempting fate because i think the one thing you really shouldn't gamble with if you're a home cook is heating a skillet of foot with a full cup of oil because that's just the easiest way to start a fight that's the easiest way to cause chaos and remember jesus christ if you're gonna do that remember they did to put out a grease fire, turn off heat, put a lid on it, or try throwing some salt or baking soda at the grease fire. But when in doubt, just call 911. But be very careful if you're trying to fry chicken or make churros at home because I don't mess around with like a skillet of oil

at least when I cook. By the way, Jason, when you were talking, that little bit of audio that you heard was me queuing up the secrets of Disney origins of churros at Disneyland in 4k and an advertisement played as I had paused

it, but then an advertisement played and now I've completely muted but i i have this now bookmarked because this is the this is it's it's about four minutes long it's the longest thing i found but it seems like scott it seems like it was uh some of the history that that uh you are you were talking about earlier or maybe it was it jason who was telling us about the uh the history oh the the jim loman tale yes yeah great man yeah um i let me do well let me do one more thing i discovered it's actually odd uh a while ago mitch you you said something about the the taco bell churro-esque items um being like what what Thanos would leave behind. Um, and relatedly there was an event in 2019 where they did,

uh, a set of infinity stone churros. And I'm going to text you guys. This is, this is a link that did it's, forgive me. There's, I couldn't find like, you know, a worthy compendium of all of them. You're just going gonna have to scan these articles that i'm sending you um but you i feel like you need to see photos i can't just describe them because if i describe them they sound okay let me do let me do it really fast and these are spread out all across the parks um these open yeah this is yeah it's it's it's rough i mean i

think the one that you're looking at, you know, you got all of them. You're Soul Stone, Orange, Space Stone, Blue Raspberry, Mind Stone, Lemon, Power Stone, Blackberry, Time Stone, Green Apple. And I think you're mainly looking at the Reality Stone, Cherry. And that one, I believe, is covered in like Pop Rocks candy, rock candy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It looks terrible. These are horrible. These are absolutely fucked. These are so fucked. It's a nightmare. It's really, it's like the purple one. If you click on the purple one, it looks like it was sitting in the freezer and part of it froze and part of it didn't. Yes.

Yes, the top of it looks frozen. Yeah, it looks like it's just like somebody accidentally put it somewhere and now they're selling it. Or like the freezer was broken. Half of the freezer wasn't working the other half was doing an okay job oh that looks that looks fucking disgusting and by the way this is the this is the twitter account that the walt disney world news twitter account was the one that i that i saw the downtown disney thing and my my my my question is why did these have to be separate articles?

Why couldn't all these Power Stone and whatever, the Infinity Stone churros be in just one article? Yes, there's a new article for each review of each different color churro. I'm tempted to criticize that, but it does sound like something

we would do. That's true. It does sound like that. That's just like something we would do that's true it does sound like that that that's just like all these dozens of sites getting posts out of like the disney land just rewording the disney parks blog or the uh rewording joe roadie's instagram posts the uh the soul stone the orange looks like it's bleeding orange blood it's like there's a consistency like thick orange blood is oozing out of a an orange churro blood orange is popular but when does it actually look like it's bleeding that's true oh you know what actually it also could just be buffalo sauce it could be delicious buffalo sauce soaked in an orange churro.

Oh, with so many crispies. By the way, I just want to give the headlines for each of these things. Review, new Power Stone churro lacks cosmic power at Hollywood Land in Disney California Adventure. And then the other one is, review, don't exchange your soul for the soul stone churro and Disney California venture. All of them are like, all the headlines are like, these suck. And different dressed up. You guys are the Marvel experts. If you had to come up with a headline to describe your feelings.

Oh, well, I'd have to be up with a headline to describe your feelings. Oh, well, I'd have to be about each stone, I guess. So what have we not done? The time stone. You don't save time for one of these. I was going to go more generic for like the

anytime a newspaper tries to write about comic books and inevitably the headline is Biff Bam Pow comics, not for kids anymore. So, uh, Biff Bam Pow, these, these churros will torture your taste buds.

Pretty good. There'll be an infinity war in your stomach. Here's my headline. This one's specifically made for all the listeners. Just like all the Avengers movies and Galaxy's Edge, these churros suck. Oh, no. Cheap heat. Mitch just going for cheap heat.

Mitch going to war with the Marvel fans now, too. Bring it on, no. Cheap heat. Mitch just going for cheap heat. Mitch going to war with the Marvel fans now, too. Bring it on, baby. Mitch is challenging you, the military industrial complex. The military advisors. Yeah, they're going to be upset. I found just, we were speaking about teens and churros a little bit. And because of that, I Googled Six Flags Magic Mountain churros. And apparently Six Flags Magic Mountain had an event last year where if you bought a churro, you could stay late in the park and ride special rides.

Special? Wow. Purchase a churro at a participating food location inside the park and you'll receive a special event wristband to attend an exclusive ride event that night so you would get like a special like after hours event if you bought a churro at Six Flags

everything going well that's how dire it is over there that you that you give a special park treatment if you buy a churro basically yes what that is saying is that like let's look yeah let's break this down the special after hours event at disney costs you know 100 150 dollars this event cost five dollars and they're losing money because they're also giving you a churro so it's like you're paying like maybe two dollars to stay late at six flags

mike you sent a picture of uh all the different churros in an infinity gauntlet and um it's kind of unpleasant looking yes that's right yeah it looks like they're growing it looks like uh like some sort of fungus run amok or like like some sort of plant growth that's not natural this yeah what is the um what's the um natalie portman movehilation. Disney's Annihilation. That is very Annihilation-esque. It's a very... It's someone... So basically someone bought... I wonder if they were just selling that.

It's Thanos' glove and it's filled with every stone churro, Infinity Stone churro. They were selling. Yeah. I mean, just like who wants to do that? I mean,

whatever. Who wants that? Bloggers, people writing these things, the bumper car boys. Yeah. They, they,

they were, they were selling a Thanos like mug, like in his like infinity gauntlet, which makes a lot more sense than this. Yeah. They're not in the shape of stones. Why would they? You know what I mean? They're not.

Infinity sticks. Infinity sticks. Infinity stone cookies would make more sense. Yeah. Or like... It's just... Or... You know what?

Moose shells, as we were talking about on the treats episode. You know what, guys? What? I thought I was going to turn you around and say... Have you say that churros are the number one snack in the Disney park, but after seeing the Infinity Stone churros, you've won me over. churros are the number one snack in the disney park but after seeing the infinity stone churros you've won me over churros suck oh no no we can't it's like it's like a thanos uh defeated us mike lost his resilience um this is no this is bullshit here wait and i but i think I could turn it around

I'm sitting on something that I think Might help us have a happy ending here I'm going to check your phones one more time Because I'm going to send you a series Of three photos Mike, you brought up Six Flags And I take you now To Six Flags, Mexico

A park I don't believe I realized existed Until now It was formerly the park that had trapped free willie that was before six flags bought it so i don't hold that against these photos um yeah yeah i'm not building a good case but i'm gonna send you three lovable pals and they don't have an official name but you know what i I'll make one up right now in an alliterative way. These are, I'll name them the churro chums. At Six Flags Mexico, you can take photos with three giant churros. They're like avatar proportions.

If a human being is five to six feet, I think these are like 10 to 11. They look like Will Vinton claymation characters. They kind of remind me they're sort of in the family of other characters I love, like the walking Hershey bars in Hershey land,

or also they're a little bit like my buddy Charlie Chip, the mascot of Fry's Electronics. The greaser looks like a California raisin to me. Very much so. That might be where I'm getting the Will Vinton vibes. He's got big old sneakers.

They've got sort of like Mickey Mouse-esque limbs, just the black little twigs and then big white gloves. There's kind of a, as Mike said, a greaser. He might call him kind of an Elvis-looking one. There's just a guy in a big mustache and a sombrero and then like a cowboy. The sheriff

of Churro Town. He's got a big gun. He's got a gun. It's like an unforgiven Clint Eastwood in Unforgiven. He's seen too much. He's killed too many. There's two things that stand out about him one is that yes that it is just a it's just a straight up gun it's not like a fun churro gun it's a

straight up just like fucking big ass gun and then two is that he you just you just fall into his baby blue eyes he has the these baby blue eyes oh my god you're right yeah you're right the other one of them's wearing sunglasses so you can't tell the other his eyes are not as piercing yeah god this who is he like who's like uh who's an actor who's got some of the best eyes right now um who's like a classic blue eyed he's he's just he's such a hunk who's got the best eyes right now in the business who's got the best eyes right now actors the business? Who's got the best eyes right now? Actors with good eyes. I'm looking forward to it. Actually, you know what?

Who's the serial killer that people think is hot? All of them? All of them? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But the one who's especially hunky, a lot of people were saying, Oh, did Zac Efron play him? Yeah, there you go.

Who's that? Which one is that? which one is that i got a picture i got a picture of bradley cooper that he it's very similar well it's a little he's a little lighter than this guy but he's got the eye he's got eyes that really draw you in i think so this churro is like a combo bradley cooper Bundy. Yeah, there you go. I agree. And he's got a gun, so there's sort of the threat angle. And he's very macho. I bet he kind of talks like, what's his character in Star is Born?

Oh, God. Jackson Maine. kind of talks like um what's what's his character in uh stars born oh um oh god jackson jackson yeah this guy doesn't go to jackson main yeah i'm gonna look i'm just i just want to do right by you you want to take another look at you that's the lie yeah there you go that's what mitch says when he walks away from the churro stand. Just want to take one more look at you. I saw Carlson's Bradley Cooper and I raised him a Chris Pine. Yeah, the Chris Pine, he has the good eyes too. I think Bradley's maybe are a little bit more hypnotizing. I think those work a little bit better.

So the three... The three men were the most attracted to are Bradley Cooper, Chris Pine, and this churro sheriff. The churro sheriff. Slay me, churro sheriff. I would love to hang out with a churro

sheriff in a Pizza the Hut sort of fashion wait what do you mean pizza in a pizza that fashion like in that like uh you know I would I would eat him like how the how pizza the hut eats himself and his little buddy there eats him too I think I would I would want to eat that oh god sure all right

sure sure like befriend him but you're just luring him in so you can take a big bite out of him yeah yes i mean like i would be looking into his big blue eyes as i as i ate him but i i mean i would eat him for sure how can you turn down eating a giant churro like that if he was a man i said i said that i'd feel bad as i ate him what if he like what if he was like, Joe, stop, stop. I'm in pain.

You're hurting me. You're killing me. Or what if he was like, keep it going. You're doing the right thing. It's a living. He's like, you're like, hey, put the gun to my temple while i eat you you know what honestly this what this has made me think is that disney needs to have some sort of churro property they've got to do some sort of churro property

well you know that brings us back to videopolis because they would to drum up churro sales when they first introduced them they would play she's got Betty Davis eyes but they change it to she's got piercing churro eyes six flags really six flags yes like the piercing churro eye man

six lights really skirting copyright here with the piercing churro do you know what you know what really skirting copyright here with the piercing churro. Do you know what? You know what? No. Here's what I think. What do you guys think of this? Every churro stand there's it's Pluto's ass and

then the and then the churros are just come out of those. You wrap them right from there. What do you guys thinkurros are just come out of those you wrap them right from there what do you guys think wait they come out of his ass out of the hole they come out of his ass yeah yeah yeah they come out of the pluto's asshole basically so he has like long shits so yeah pluto's taking these big long shits and then also like how how people pick up dog mess with like plastic baggies those those white wrappers are kind of like the baggies you know what i'm saying if the baggies are like kind

of themed well i i think i do like this idea yeah mike this is the what you were lacking in terms of instagram ability in terms of uh visual panache with churros. I think Mitch just invented it. He fixed the problem. If the Pluto makes a noise when it comes out too, that'll be an extra little level of imaginary. Like relieved? Oh, struggling. Okay, yeah. Yeah, because it's a long piece.

Like he shouldn't be making that like 16 inch shits. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. so Pluto's suffering every time someone orders churro he's screaming and he's relieved at the end Jason he's relieved at the end it's a good thing

he's struggling while it comes out but also I just want to say that canonically then that's what the churros are then Pluto shits and i think that that is better than the alternative right and they won't say shit so what are they are they pluto dumps pluto dumps or or make it alliterative as i like to do pluto plops pluto plops oh that's cute yeah that's a cute way to do it here Here we go. You don't even call them churros anymore.

Right. The most offensive thing you can do to its culture and where it came from, you don't name it. You don't call it churros anymore. You throw that out the window and you call them Pluto plops. That dumb old name? No, those are Pluto plops now.

Come on, everyone. Come back to the Disney parks. Make new mouth memories with Pluto plops now come on everyone come back to the Disney parks make a new mouth memories with Pluto plops yeah it's great you did it you fixed it it's IP Mike Mitchell you survived podcast

the ride wow wow a brilliant idea thank you for spitting perfect imaginary ideas with us. Straight fire. Straight fire from Mitch, as usual. I don't really have anything to really promote except for that, you know, should open that back up the parks and open the gates hashtag mike mitchell don't lock the gate i'm on the inside i'm on marin's side we gotta lock the gates um uh i of course don't think that and also i'm trying to get her eyes out of people by saying all that stuff was bad don't be mad at me i'm sorry or the boys these sweet boys sure sure gotcha uh look you made

everybody so happy with pluto plops by the end i don't think anyone will remember uh you know we'll uh we'll make sure that you guys um get to look at uh these big tall plops uh these handsome piercing tall plops uh and and other media. If you go to our Twitter, if you go to our Facebook, if you go to our Instagram and, there's always a bunch of fun, three bonus episodes every month at patrion.com slash podcast, the ride,

um, anything else? Do we do it? I think we did it. Um, I think, yeah, I don't,

I look next time when the park, when I feel comfortable going to the park next, maybe I will first thing try a churro to see maybe if that will change my perception. I'm open to this moving up in the rankings. It's just I'm going to maybe I'll try to experience it. I'll get a Coke. I'll get a churro in Tomorrowland, and I'll see. I'll see what happens. You're starting your day off right, I'll get a churro, in Tomorrowland, and I'll see. I'll see what happens.

You're starting your day off right, I'm telling you. The Mike Mitchell speedball. That's right. Alright, thanks for listening, everybody. That was a blast. Thanks for joining us, Mitch. Bye-bye. Thanks, guys. Forever Dog.

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