Podcast: The Ride - Country Bear Jamboree
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Forever!
Dog!
Howdy folks, welcome to our week-long Country Bear thing.
Quick heads up, today's episode features Mule Talk,
Goofy getting hit by a car,
and Joe Piscopo on a cruise ship.
Just wanted to warn ya,
it's Country Bear Jamber Week Day 1
on today original podcast,
the Ride Country Bear Jamber Week,
a daily podcast series devoted to the Walt Disney World, Tokyo Disneyland,
and dearly departed Disneyland attraction, the Country Bear Jamboree.
We made it.
We finally did it.
I'm swinging Scotty Gairdner, joined by Big Car Albson.
Howdy there.
Yes, that's my name.
You know what?
I was going to call you, if I was doing the intro, like Scooch or Scooter Gardner, I think.
That works.
Because I was trying to think of a name.
But anyway.
Anybody else can be swinging.
Yeah.
I have a Jason.
Oh, yeah.
And if you accept it.
I'd love to hear both Jason.
I have one too for Jason.
But go ahead.
Well, maybe we landed on the same thing.
Mine was Jason Bonnet Sheridan.
That's good and more clever than mine,
but I think I do have to say mine
because it ties into something
that I said on the show a while ago.
I was just going to call him Jason Jughead Sheridan
for its double meaning,
because Jughead, obviously we like Jughead
because of the Archie Comics character,
but also I said many, many years ago at this point that what I wanted is Jason Sheridan
to learn how to play the jug for the country bear episode and I have a jug with me here
I feel like he didn't learn it though ahead of time I didn't I know there's a little water in
it because I was I washed it real quick because i forgot about it until the last second here but this is a jug i cleaned it it's freshly cleaned so whoa folks there's a genuine
jug i brought a jug with for jason jughead sheridan and what was his other name uh jay
sunbonnet sheridan oh jay sunbonnet sheridan i think you both did a great job jughead jay
sunbonnet sheridan why not all of it? Why not the longest name?
Yeah,
that's good.
Okay,
let's clear the air.
Let's,
okay,
because we got a whole week here.
It'd be great if there was improvement
by the end of it.
So let's hear
just unvarnished Jason Jugheading.
I'm getting a little.
Okay,
so here's the thing.
I watched a couple YouTube videos
of jug instruction.
Of people hooting on a jug. And here's the thing I didn't know couple YouTube videos of jug instruction. Of people hooting on a jug.
And here's the thing I didn't know about playing the jug.
Because I thought it was more like what you're trying to do right now.
It's actually a lot more you make the noise with your mouth,
and then it resonates off the bottom of the jug.
So you're making a noise.
So you can go and put it into the jug.
That's actually good jugging.
That's good jugging, actually. That's good jugging? Yeah, That's actually good jugging. That's good jugging, actually.
That's good jugging?
Yeah, that's actually good jugging
from what I understand according to YouTube.
This is also a glass jug.
It's not the ceramic brown and white kind of traditional jug.
He says a glass jug might be a little bit tougher,
but you can do,
a couple of these gentlemen instructed me about this online,
and you can do it in a milk jug,
an empty milk jug that's plastic.
You can do the classic,
what you're talking about,
the ceramic that you've seen,
you know, like everybody
drink moonshine out of.
That's the issue is
where are we getting one of those?
Where are we getting an old timey jug?
They used to be everywhere.
Now I don't know
where I'd go for a jug.
Well, maybe by the end of the week,
we'll have a ceramic jug for Jason.
But this is what I had on hand.
Listeners, point us to like, where do you think is the most authentic jug that we could get?
Yeah.
So, Jason, if we call for it during the episode or anytime this week, if you could just do a little jugging for us, I would appreciate it.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I'll do my best.
Okay.
As always with this show, I promise to try my dampest.
And do my best. As always with this show, I promise to try my damnedest. Because, you know, you're like when Lisa had the jug on The Simpsons
and Homer would ask her to play it to cheer him up.
Music.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, and so if like somebody's looking up information that they don't have at the ready
or if the cricket comes back, we've had a cricket issue here in the garage.
That's true.
If we need to deal with that, you're going to need to fill the time.
That's a great little bit of audio color for like a Country Bear Jamboree kind of like, you know.
Oh, a cricket would be great now.
Yeah, I wouldn't care.
You're currently holding, it's like a modern water bottle, but it looks a little like a jug.
Yeah, it's got the wood slowly fading away because it's like a couple years old. It's like a jug. Yeah, this is, it's got the wood. The wood's slowly fading away
because it's like a couple years old.
It's like a swell style.
You think you can get anything out of that,
out of the swell?
Let me see.
I mean, it is full of water.
No, I'd say that doesn't work too thin.
Can I play the empty Burger King cup with ice in it?
Let's see how I can get out of this.
I've got a glass iced tea.
See, that's pretty. I'm doing too much of the work there.
A little too much, yeah.
That's not genuine.
And speak of the devil, there's the cricket.
Wow, really?
Where's that cricket?
That cricket's back.
Wow, we have all the characters here today,
including our cricket friend.
Wait, this is the opportunity.
Mike hit the wall, and Jason cover with the jug.
All right, all right.
I'm going to hit the wall, hit the wall to try to get the cricket to stop.
Jason, go.
Didn't work.
There was a brief pause with the cricket, though, when I heard the sound.
If I can ask, what was in this jug beforehand?
I'm getting a little bit of like citrus flavor.
Oh, that's probably the soap.
That's got to be the soap.
Yeah, that's fresh soap.
Okay, well, we're keeping an ear out for the cricket,
but there's a couple bits of business to do here
at the beginning of this new event series.
It's been a little while.
Excited to be doing it.
It means we have different stuff at play.
We've got a new country fried theme, courtesy of our own Mike Carlson.
Thank you.
Theme song, fantastic.
Great job.
Thank you very much.
It's fun.
Yeah, you go out to the barn, you whip up that old-fashioned garage band,
and you just see what happens, you know?
I have my plug-ins.
I'm using Logic.
You got the filters.
I'm using Logic on Apple.
That's just quality.
Ma, can you help me out with the Pro Tools here? Pro Tools acting up again. I'm using Logic on Apple That's just quality
Ma, can you help me out with the Pro Tools here?
Pro Tools acting up again
My MIDI keyboard is acting up
My MIDI ports ain't showing up
I got no ports
This is a hee-haw sketch
Pretty good
Modern day Jugba, 21st century Jugba
Yeah, yeah
We've also got great artwork
Courtesy of Tona Grasa And this I'm excited about 21st century jugman yeah yeah um we've also got great artwork courtesy of tona grossa uh and this
i'm excited about uh if you're a long-time listener of the show you might know this art
already because a long time ago he uh they did art uh the uh called the good boy jamboree
and i think maybe the best fan art probably we've ever received. It's up there for sure.
As the country bears.
Aaron, my wife often does like the special art for,
and the main art for these things.
But in this case, she was like, you already got good boy jamboree.
It's gotta be good boy jamboree.
Use that.
Tona helped us out and thanks so much.
And you can check out more of Tona's work at, in the show notes.
Yeah, sure.
They'll be there.
Yeah, it's so good.
So we're freshening it up for this week.
Everything's fresh.
Yeah, yeah.
And it feels good.
I feel the sheen and the shine, the moonshine.
We've turned into a real hoot and holler now.
Yeah, yeah.
So we're going to do a lot.
There's a lot of content coming this week. And i don't think we're not gonna say everything it'll be a fun
fun surprise yeah i think so because you might yeah you could make guesses as to how we'll we'll
sort of break everything down and parse this into different uh areas and topics but i don't know
that you could you could guess all the twists and turns. I'll say that if you want the full Country Bear Jamber Week experience,
you should subscribe to The Second Gate at patreon.com slash podcast the ride.
But I think most of what we're doing right here on the main feed for our good old family,
because we're one big family here.
You're entitled to most of the content in front of the paywall.
We're generous bars.
Yep, but just a little bit.
You gotta pay.
Family's gotta chip in, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Pay for the feast.
You wanna hear the two-hour episode about Buck Owens' music career?
You gotta listen to the Patreon and pay us a little money.
Oh, that'll get him over
there oh yeah see such a spike today um yeah this this i think is exciting it's cool to be
tackling something to really like do do a major here do a thesis we're really this is a thesis
project about a about an attraction it is um and i you know that deep breath that you just did mike that was a
question i had is i think i think for you maybe this is the biggest um hill to climb because
this has been looming for a long time i can recall an instance where i suggested maybe doing the
country bear jamboree and you said pretty seriously i have you know what i gotta tell you i'm not ready i'm not i don't think i can do it yet i'm not ready yeah so now now we're here
are you ready i would say this uh i am ready in the sense that i'm always ready which is uh
something that uh podcast friend matt cardona uses as a tagline so i'm always ready but am i ready
no i'm not ready but that's look saturday
night live they say you know it's the show what do they say about it it goes on it doesn't go
go on because it's ready exactly exactly they say that about studio 60 do this
they the show yeah the show goes on because it's uh friday night at 11 at a theater resembling the Palladium,
but that isn't the Palladium.
Right.
That's Studios, the hallowed Studio 60.
Did you see the thing that Aaron Sorkin said about I Love Lucy?
That it's not, if we looked at it today, it's not funny?
Right.
Fuck off.
Are you kidding me?
No, no, he said that.
He's making the Lucy movie.
Jeez Louise.
This is who we've entrusted with this property i am not ready but i'm ready yeah okay great um i mean because like you know we're taking our time here and that's that's some
of what i think is easing us into it that we don't have to get to all of it today but the
the notion of today's episode is that this is the country bear jamboree right the primary thing the big ticket item now i was i should say at the
top i think that if we stumble into something or we're we're at like the distant we're at three
and a half hours and we haven't even gotten to big al whatever it is i think we could call for
an episode uh yes break off of course we could we could call for an episode break off. Yes, of course.
We could break off a piece.
I agree with that. If we need to. So let's
put that option on the table.
Anything, yeah. If you want to call for
a full episode during this show,
you can.
About any topic.
Don't.
Don't summon that spell
unless you're ready to cast it.
You got to be sure.
You're sure there's enough meat there.
But also, it's a saga or an ordeal or a jammer week.
We've used a lot of words at this point.
That setup is hopefully so that these episodes don't all have to be
a minimum two and a half hours but
maybe they all are i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know what the shape of these
will be i think part of my mental thinking or the way that it's shaping up is we we just kind of had
this you know buckle up and just do it because we've talked so many different angles on it it's
like well at a certain point you just have to break down and it just becomes exactly i think i'm maybe i'm still delaying it but even talking i know we should just get to it
i guess we i guess we just got to dig in and dig in and uh on this attraction which i'm glad we're
doing it now because it is the 50th anniversary just like walt disney world this is an opening
day walt disney world attraction so it's celebrating its 50th anniversary still there it's made it there it was opening day tokyo and it's still there as
well and notable for being the very first to open walt uh open at walt disney world and then get
cloned for disneyland this is the first time that happened in that order oh yeah yeah most things
started at disneyland and they made us they they
shipped it to orlando yeah and it changed the complexion of disneyland or i guess the name
my complexion seems like a lot well we keep going what do you mean by well like bear country then
became a thing like that that area became bear country because of the country bears yeah yeah
well that that's kind of like um one thing i find interesting
about all this is that it opened in florida seemingly pretty big smash hit there pretty
beloved out of the gate in florida so much so that i think it was pretty hyped coming into
disneyland and california and maybe too much in a way because it's a little unassuming in Florida.
It's one of a bunch of attractions.
This one's new and exclusive to Disney World.
That's cool.
But there wasn't a lot of pressure put on it.
Maybe that helped it take off.
Here in Disney, by the time they get it to Disneyland, it gets an entire land devoted to it.
Which happens pretty rarely that an attraction is accompanied by an entire
land and also they are also e-ticket we're still doing the ticket system at that point and they
name it an e-ticket attraction which i don't think i don't think people i don't think we've
talked a lot about the ticket system i don't even know what a lot of these older attractions were ticket-wise, but today e-ticket is thrown around mostly for thrill rides.
That system was retired, but Indiana Jones or Rise of the Resistance,
you'd imagine, would be e-tickets.
Kind of weird that a theater show, that a sit-down show,
was considered an e-ticket.
In my heart, it's not weird, but it is weird for the average public, I think.
Yeah.
I have a graphic that Yesterland preserved
from like 72, 73 of all the e-tickets at Disneyland.
Okay.
Do you want to guess some of them?
Do we have...
There's no Big Thunder yet.
Not yet.
Haunted Mansion Pirates.
Correct.
How many we got here?
Two, four, six, eight, nine, 10.
Somebody else has got a jug while he can.
Like 11?
There's 11 on here.
That's a lot.
11, really?
At that point in time, is the railroad an e-ticket?
That's a good question.
A mode of transit is.
Monorail?
Monorail is. Monorail? Monorail is...
Monorail is an e-ticket.
Small world an e-ticket at that point?
Small world is an e-ticket.
Interesting.
Yeah, okay.
Matterhorn then?
Matterhorn is not listed on here.
What are you talking about?
Small world and not Matterhorn?
Really?
When is Matterhorn open?
Is Matterhorn not open?
No, it's open.
I'm sorry, Matterhorn is on here.
Oh, thank God.
I'm losing my mind.
This is not the clearest graphic.
What else we got?
We have the monorail, the Jungle Cruise.
Huh.
The Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland.
Oh, interesting.
The Submarine Voyage.
What was it?
Can we list what wasn't an e-ticket at this point?
I mean, the weirdest one to me.
Walking down Main Street, e-ticket.
The strangest one to me that not only was it an e-ticket, but it was still here.
Pack mules.
Wow.
Riding a mule was an e-ticket.
That's right.
Wow.
That's a vaunted phrase that they say in this.
Let me tell you, this is going to be a real e-ticket akin to riding a mule that might take a dump or like spit, just piss all over your shoes.
If you could still ride a mule at Disneyland, you would have to pay for the lightning lane to ride a mule.
Lightning lane for a mule ride. You would have to pay $15 for the lightning lane to ride a mule. Lightning lane for a mule ride.
You would have to pay $15 for the lightning lane to ride a mule at Disneyland.
By the time an entire family has done it, and if you're there with a big,
you might, some people travel with bigger families than there are mules.
Yeah, sure.
So what do you do in that case?
They've paid the money.
You want to make it work.
Yeah, family, an angry family reunion and matching t-shirts arguingshirts arguing like you've got to get more mules out here it's been a collective
210 dollars whatever i mean if they if like bob chapek or damaro was on stage at one of these d23
type places and they're like we are starting a virtual queue for the mule rides at 7 a.m you will wake up and get on your app and get a spot
in line for mules during the day and that will go quickly so you have to get up at that time
and everyone's writing articles about how to get in the virtual queue for a mule and just all virtual
queue for a mule geez all theme park media pleading with them please update the mules they're very old they are struggling
several of them are from the opening of disneyland several several these are original day years old
disneyland let shooter retire shooter to deal with bob cummings opening day and now he has to
deal with me most of shooters legs are fake let. I'm going to be the first to say
I don't know anything about mules,
but I'm going to hazard a guess
that they either live very few years
or they're like turtles
where it's like,
oh, they live a long time.
Yeah, the average mule was 300 years old.
It lives to be 300.
Mules are sterile, yes?
So they can't...
Mules are donkeys.
One of them I think it's difficult to make.
It's difficult to make?
Difficult to make.
Well, they're sterile.
They're not like, you know.
Hold on.
Hold on.
This is important at the top of the country bear episode.
This is, yeah, we got to do some animal husbandry.
We got to cover a bunch of non-country bear mule, just stats about real mules.
Mule.
Okay, continue talking while I figure this out.
Well, at Disneyland, this i thought was interesting
when it did come to disneyland because they were predicting it being such a hit they two theaters
florida has one theater tokyo also has two theaters seemingly still a big hit there
okay i was correct they are sterile because they can't make sperm or eggs a female horse and a male
donkey have a mule got it oh so one but then that a
mule is an evolutionary dead end basically yes like critter country it's what's up dead
bear country yeah the mule of lands yeah um i mean yeah that's that is all pretty crazy like
it's it's coming in blockbusters that you got to use yeah the biggest
ticket on it it's its own land it's two theaters and i and i think it like did all that hurt it
in a way did that make it not take off in california ever to the degree that it did in
disney world and seemingly tokyo mike i think you can attest or you got to see it there right oh yeah
yeah um psyched crowds that was like a absolutely hyped audience although lately i've been noticing
that in orlando as well i think people it depends sometimes yes it does yes i was gonna say that
yeah just it depends i've been there where no one gives a shit. I've watched YouTube videos where no one gives a shit,
but then I have been in there with a crowd that likes it.
Yeah, yeah, and I think it's infectious.
I think if there's a couple people in the country bear crowd
who are determined to give it their all
and really cheer for everything and really clap for everything
and who laugh at the things that there are to laugh at,
then everybody has a better time.
I think in general, the more the audience puts into it,
the more everybody gets out of it.
It's just like the end of the Abbey Road suite.
The love you make is equal to the love you take.
I agree with that completely.
They famously cut the hoedown portion.
Right after the big drum solo, there
was a big jug solo.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, they all take turns jugging.
Three different jug players take turns jugging, like the guitar solos at the end.
When John Lennon was staying at the Polynesian, do you think he saw the country bears?
Whoa.
Ooh, what a question what a question right
at the early on can I call for an episode about this about this hypothetical well yeah but I don't
know how you find how you verify any of this the other thing about that story that I had read
on some sort of like long form article like ages ago and I don't know i i don't remember where it was i don't remember how well
sourced um but i think it had kind of a debunking angle of like oh the papers were presented there
but they realized the lawyers had to tweak something oh right yes further down uh he was
either miami or he was somewhere else in florida when he finally got the final final pep i have
dissolved the beatles to dissolve the beatles, I have seen this correction that he didn't actually dissolve the Beatles.
In Disney, in the Polynesian Hotel.
In Disney.
But he got papers that was going to do that.
But yeah, the final, final ones, I guess, happened somewhere else.
Well, would he have been, like, would he have enjoyed the Country Bears?
Would he have been impressed by them?
Like, the way he, you know, he likes a Nilsson.
Like I respect my musical peers.
Would it have stressed him out?
Like it feels like work to him to go analyze another great band's music.
They liked American Country Western.
I mean, Ringo covers Buck Owens' Act Naturally.
And Buck Owens has a song in the Country bears oh that's an interesting crossover i don't think i knew he was the artist
of act naturally uh yes yes you know so uh you know that song of course they're gonna put me in
the movies they're gonna make a big star out of me yeah they i mean i think a lot of those british
invasion bands i mean the early early stone records are mostly like covers of like
uh blues and country songs right so did any of them do uh blood on the saddle well it's okay
well uh it's a good question i don't know i mean elton john is in the country bear movie
spoiler alert i guess i shouldn't have said that but he addressed but he has a bunch of old
he is like a bunch of very country western tumbleweed connection
and stuff like all these different influences so i think that would be right up john lennon's
alley to answer the question you might have appreciated i think he would have loved it
yeah unless he was just like high out of his mind and doesn't recall seeing it and it was not really
uh it's possible it was the it was it was with may pang right now with
yoko it was a long weekend situation i guess so yeah in the photo i think the polynesian
it's may pang right i believe so yeah and she's also i think in the is she the one in the photo
of him doing like the mr nat he's doing that crazy walk uh i don't know i can't remember okay
i can't remember that photo where he looks like't. He looks like a tall string bean alien.
I won't remember it.
Okay.
I refuse to.
Sorry, Mae.
My eyes are straying.
I've got a new, I might have a new girlfriend.
Her name's Swingin' Teddy Barra.
When it was all high, he like clung to her animatronic as she went into the ceiling.
There's a man trying to ride up into the rafters.
Correction, it's the most famous man on the planet.
John Lennon had a long weekend with Swingin' Teddy Bear from Maypang.
I'm being told to allow it to happen.
He's going to stay up there.
We don't want any trouble with Apple Records,
so let's not bother him for the weekend, folks. Paul famously to go and tell john get back with yoko leave swinging teddy bear
he went to him in california is it funny because it's trixie was seeing tex ritter at the time and
she got him in the show sure yeah so uh i so where do where do you even begin here?
I mean, we could talk a little bit about where it came from,
because as with a lot of stuff that was put into Disney World originally,
there's a couple of attractions that were new to Disney World,
and Walt had passed away.
He'd been deceased for five years or so.
But a lot of the new attractions in Disney World still had roots to stuff he was alive and helped think of.
It's like not till further down the road that they finally are willing to try an attraction that Walt didn't sort of approve.
But this, yeah, he was around for an iteration of the Country Bear Jamboree because it was meant for a ski resource that never got built.
Mineral King.
The Mineral King Ski Resort.
I mean, it starts, of course, when Walt was the chairman of pageantry for
the Squaw Valley Olympic Games.
Of course.
I'll call it my own episode.
All right, Squaw Valley.
Oh, man.
Squaw Valley.
I was looking that up and like you would,
I don't know.
You'd think like a, an entire Disney run.
They,
I,
he did not like do like a custom animatronic show.
I don't think he had the lead time to,
he didn't make up the Tiki room.
Right.
Or have like an original show about,
you know,
chipmunk skiers.
Like vulture shot putters or what have you i don't think anything too
interesting was happening there but uh i guess in doing so he got interested in
in putting together a ski resort um i don't know the the math super well of how all that
played out but that's a property that's it's now part of Sequoia. It wasn't at the time.
It got annexed in the 70s.
But yeah, he wanted to build what would have been the biggest ski resort in America and drew up a lot of plans for it.
And in doing so, it was like, well, what do people do at night?
We have to come up with something once the skiing is over
and he tasked mark davis with coming up with a great imaginary we've talked about a lot
really responsible for a lot of the you know funnier zanier character designs over the year
these characters where you feel like you get a picture of the whole character just when you look
at his concept or forget about even the robot his concept art. Forget about even the robot. His concept art says so much.
It speaks volumes.
Little quote I have.
Walt commissioned Mark Davis to come up with shows that would keep those folks and their money
right there at Mineral King.
Walt thought maybe we should have a show
that had something to do with bears, said Mark.
Lots and lots of bears.
And he went off and thought of a lot of different bears
and a review that they could do
um but here's something interesting i discovered in all this that uh something mark davis said is
that the drawings that he showed walt had all kinds of bears sure there was a country band
but also a jazz band a circus band a one bear band and a red outfit with a bunch of instruments he was playing so because
if this was supposed to be in northern california um country music is not you know the exclusive
dominant music there so there's an alternate version of this where it's not the country bear
jamboree just a bear the bear show the bear concert yeah it's multiple things it's like uh uh andrew dice
clay used to do a bunch of characters and then he settled on one of the concepts that became his
whole persona that's exactly the same thing i see so like there were a lot of versions that could
have been of a bear band um i guess it's actually kind of like america sings where there were
multiple like they weren't all sort of a part of one like group on america sings that were different acts essentially a bunch of american
genres represented and half now canceled right exactly yeah yeah when you look at country bear
jamboree and then america sings it does feel because we were talking about classic rock like important rock bands it it does feel
like the trope of you know big first hit with country bear jamboree and uh kind of doesn't
nail it on the sophomore effort too ambitious maybe too ambitious or not focused enough for
it's like american idiot and 21st century breakdown you know 21st century
breakdown just not as good as american idiot right we haven't used this metaphor it's fairly new we
didn't land on this metaphor for half an hour we can't we can't dive in more though we have so much
to get to i was trying to think of like is there a more current reference at all i could think of
is like well that first shins album to that second shins album and i'm like that's the same time period what am i talking about the first shins album i think even
older than american idiot oh yeah maybe maybe i don't know i don't remember i like the second
shins album okay it's the first shins album the one with the garden state songs with caring is
creepy is that right out pretty well along before garden state uh but yes a lot of it
and then shoots too narrow is the second one i'm calling for a separate episode
we got two already separate shins episode and that's going to be in country bear jamber week
uh-huh okay great perfect if you're a good boy in college you would order them online on the cds
come to your dorm room and yeah if you're what i say if you
were a good boy if you were an idiot like me who didn't know how to steal music oh i see oh you're
saying you were a good boy i was a good boy and i bought the albums yeah sure sure yeah um okay so
anyway when they realized this was going to be a florida specific attraction that's when it became
country music because country music country western was
the like uh dominant music genre in florida so i don't think i realized that that if it had started
in california maybe this is not a country music attraction yeah not a jamboree at all i mean i
love the idea that they could have done just different bands for different spots different
disney parks like different types of bear bands. That's pretty fun.
So in Europe, is it like
Kraftwerk?
Oh, sure.
Oh, man.
Oh, jeez.
Kraftwerk.
Just a really, yeah, with like,
you know, we are the 3D component
and they're aware that they're robots.
They know that they're robots.
Yeah.
Like the Kraftwerk song, we are the robots.
We are the bear robots.
We are the bear robots is what you could call it.
Yeah, that would be perfect.
Oh, boy.
Well, yeah, I'm sorry you dampened my enthusiasm for the jamboree because I'm just going to be thinking about that hypothetical.
Also, all of it, if you kept it because Kraftwerk are such like, you know, know svelte guys and then but it's those kind of suits but like but big massive yeah yeah
fantastic 700 pound so great yeah that would be amazing um but i don't the window for that has
passed sadly there's no chance i don't think of us ever getting a new animatronic show based on characters that
don't have a tv show or movie i don't think maybe anywhere i don't think they're because this kicked
off you know i think i'm not sure that you have chucky cheese without the country bear jamboree
i think this is such a you know there's been the tiki room uh you know there's lincoln and hall of
presidents but those aren't you know fun and for families
right or depending on your view of things but uh this is i mean clearly the just style wise and
just the you know how much you meet people and like hey why don't you play us a two it's completely
what chucky cheese turns yeah yeah for sure it's interesting because like where the disney regional
projects never really took oh i mean between mineral king and then there was that st louis
indoor one disney quest like very famously flamed out and but chucky cheese got off the ground but
disney couldn't get their act together they tried weird yeah it is weird to
think about it they had character beloved characters that everyone knew but they didn't
figure it out i mean i guess yeah michael eisner tried it later you got the store but that's not
the same yeah yeah i mean how much did you look up in the rafters and wish that all of those
characters i loved seeing those characters yeah wanted them to do something of course yeah but
i mean there were all these like rules i mean like we talked about the directive dvd sequels and stuff where it's
like there were just like rules in place and i think for a while yeah the idea was like oh they
should be like just kind of contained to here but then michael eisner had some wild ideas but then
didn't go hard enough with them maybe well he was still stuck in the confines of the rules.
I mean, the same issues keep arising
with they can't get the regional stuff off the ground.
They can't get their act together there.
But also the problem you mentioned of, you know,
Walt saying, how do we keep these people
and their money here at night?
That was the same idea with Pleasure Island.
It's like they're leaving property they're leaving
disney world sure they're going to church street station or they're going elsewhere in orlando we
need some sort of nightlife yeah yeah thing um which i don't look i think if there's animatronic
bear shows all over the country in the world everybody's money is going to it yes still today i yeah i got not not country bears but i got like
right before i came here i was re-watching the country bear jamboree and youtube suggested it's
like do you want to watch this bear animatronic show in brazil it was also in england and i was
like what is this like i had never come across this we have another episode to add this week
i think it's worth looking into more,
but I don't know anything about it.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, I mean, this inspired a generation,
multiple generations,
to want to make their own animal,
talking animal show.
I think also people have written about it.
There is something about talking animals.
Human beings have been obsessed with talking animals forever.
And it is strange.
Yeah.
But there is something about it that is funny, weird, fascinating.
I don't know.
It works better than human animatronics just sort of end up creepy,
or at least did until the recent past
where they've kind of cracked a little better but these guys can be big and round and uh fuzzy and
don't you just like every country bear don't you want to just like grab their face just like see
what that feels like just like yes their uh give their cheeks the shake more than anything yes i
want to do that uh the bear it's just it's i mean
it is funny because obviously like a bear doesn't talk so you go in here and you see a bear talking
and then singing sad songs or weird songs and it's funny it's really funny so i think somewhere
in the i don't know if this was mark's concept or walt's concept but i think somewhere in the
brainstorm was just the idea that you know if we're staying with the mythology of this is like we're in this ski resort we're near the sequoias
uh uh you know you're it's a regional thing so uh where we went out and we found some bears and we
trained the bears to be musicians but not very well they are technically trained but the show is a problem
and it's hijinks and falls and that's like i kind of never thought of that as the the concept of the
show but it's pretty neat and i think it makes you i think the the fact that the show's coming
apart at the seams a little bit in a very muppet show yeah you know what pre-dating the muppet show
there is no muppet show yet and i think there's a lot of muppet show yeah you know what pre-dating the muppet show there is no muppet show yet and i
think there's a lot of muppet show feel to the country bear yeah because it's old like vaudeville
stage stuff and it definitely feels like yeah like like it's a fun zany show going wrong i didn't
actually think of that what you were saying about that because that is an element of the show is
that it goes wrong but it kind of isn't that bad i mean like big gal at the end is interrupting stuff and they argue with each
other a little bit although they've cut some of the arguing from the recent newer show
the newer version of the show but in the vacation one which we'll cover down the road uh there's the
there's the rufus the unseen bear who has to go fix problems like you hear him climbing
around right to uh subtle tech issues and what have you so that has a little bit of like coming
apart of the scene but yeah it's you know what under that lens they do a pretty good job yeah
they're a lot more professional than the muppets good good musicians they're all a lot of them are
a little goofy uh some of them are a little horny i think we
could safely say that yeah well i also number of them very yes the show is horny which is funny
yeah which is something that because because when lindsay and i went to disney world which i hadn't
been in like 10 years we went like now i guess it's 10 years ago that we went um and we i hadn't
seen it in a decade or more and we watched it we were high we thought it was so weird and funny
not not literally of course well no no not literally no of course hope not but we ran up
to somebody i'm sure i said this on the show before we ran up to cast members like oh where's
all the where's the country bear merchandise and they were like we don't have any and i was like
we were like what this is unbelievable but yes the bears are horny i always thought i always
interpret it that a lot of them are hammered like like they're like because they're goofy
you're saying goofy but like they're like weird like yeah they seem out of it that and i feel
like that's a uh you know thing about country western you you know in honky tonks and dive
bars and stuff is it they're all hammered you get yeah you get a little hammered maybe a paid in drinks you know but they're drinking
human alcohol and it has the same effects as it would on a human i think yeah if you yeah if you
give a bear moonshine he's gonna get drunk i suppose so yeah is that a is that a thing other
videos of like the bear broke into the you mean like like like on a frat party and it's like let's get the bear drunk man there's drinking beer yeah for sure ever for this frat but uh i don't know i don't
know if there's drunken bear youtube videos it's like like a dark part of the internet bear bags
uh in the boy scouts you'd have to if anyone's gone camping around bears you've talked about
bear bags on the show before have i yeah i think it's so interesting i mean you you just put all of your food
essentially like most of your like dry good food that you can't like seal in an airtight cooler
or something you put it in a bag and you tie it with a rope and you hoist it up in the trees so
the bear can't really get to it yeah so you put your moonshine up in the tree so the bear can't get it during the night when you're sleeping sure according to
backpacker.com the answer is a qualified yes like almost all animals uh oh wait a minute this is
like from the point of view of a bear all right i'm confused by this i don't know how i was starting
to read it and it was like ah yes i can all. Well, I guess, all right. I am susceptible to the sauce and will experience the effects of alcohol,
provided I drink a ton of it.
I see.
What animal wouldn't get drunk if you gave it alcohol?
Oh, here's a, in 2004, federal wildlife agents found a black bear
passed down on the lawn of a resort in Baker Lake, Washington
after drinking 36 cans of beer.
Oh, my God.
Oh, sure.
So there's one.
How did that happen?
Wait, how do you, like, open them?
36 cans?
You slash a cube.
You slash, like, a crate of them.
I guess so, but in the slashing, doesn't most of the beer come out?
Yeah, how would the bear get it?
How would it know to, like, have its mouth by it? You put your mouth, but you smell it, and you start slashing, doesn't most of the beer come out? Yeah, how would the beer get it? How would it know to have its mouth by it?
Put your mouth, but you smell it, and you start licking it up.
36 cans, though.
Just keep popping it.
Crushing it on its own head after it completes a can?
This is another.
Maybe the daily nature of this, we can go off and do homework.
I can get the full story of the Baker Lake drunk black bear incident.
Figure out the logic of it.
So John Lennon is homework.
Black bear is homework.
But bears can get drunk.
So you're saying that these are, well, does this bother you?
Does it bother you that these are inebriated, horned up performers?
It doesn't bother me uh they're not real they're it's a it's a fun fun fantasy life where bears are anthropomorphic uh so no i am not so
bothered by it um but this is i was thinking how you know because it's almost impossible to unravel
where some of the the threads over the years on these podcasts have come from.
But I do feel like Country Bear Jamboree is one of the primary sources in theme park world of Mae West level sexuality, which has, I think, been a runner in your comfort level with such sexuality.
Yeah, Interesting.
Uh,
well,
Mary Mae Westy,
I'd say all of the female bears,
May West herself,
obviously was a big,
and like she,
everybody's been doing the May West thing,
I think for Miss Piggy,
everyone like that's a rich tradition of kind of that vibe that May West vibe.
Um,
so yeah,
no,
I think I,
it would be interesting to know where this thread came from
when the first time i i wrinkled my nose up at some sort of bodiness and was bought was the first
use of the word body related to the country i think it was i misused the word body i think
that's honestly what it was i used it wrong i sounded like an idiot and said body in the wrong way and then now i'm mr body bodyness is part of the fabric yes uh so yeah uh but no this is uh um this is the if a
bodyness is funny i have to give it up to it i have to give it up for the body it's body is for
the sake of bodyness yeah if it's if you're just trying to be body and trying to be shocking then
that's not something i'm interested in but if it's in this in this service of comedy in the service of comedy
it's funny little bears doing it and it's safer yes saying like as soon as i find a ladder i'll
be right up you know well the show would be a lot creepier for humans much creepier yeah everything
that happened in it yeah was a similarly proportioned human being.
Yes.
It would be one of the most disturbing
shows of all time.
The country guys.
The country guys.
The country guys.
Yeah, if it was
older country guys
who all look like
they're melting.
If it's like
late in life Elvis.
The Knott's Berry Farm
like mine train.
Oh, God.
Or the log workers.
The lumber workers.
A bunch of like
wrinkled,
you look at them and think that they're 68,
but they're actually 31.
They just lived a hard life.
Yeah, the show would not be the same.
You'd be really worried about that one kid one.
As it stands, the kid who sits with the band,
he's like part of the family.
But if there's only one child in this seedy world.
Yes.
Rescue him.
Yes.
Raise him as your own.
There would be a lot of concern if this was a human based show.
There'd be a lot of people you would be worried about.
But yes,
as again,
this is fun.
It's a fantasy.
Yeah.
The bears aren't real.
Uh huh.
Uh huh.
Uh,
um,
so,
uh,
Oh,
you know,
you know,
we should,
because you guys brought this name to my attention
mark davis isn't the only person to credit with the formation of this there's the the guy albertino
right i hadn't heard that name until you brought him up and i i needed it explained to me i was
like albertino what is that no it's al space bertino yes uh and he is the namesake of big al um the the biggest saddest country bear
so we know anything else about albertino um oh that's about the imagineer oh i don't have
anything written down here so i'm sure there's a lot about him but i don't either all right well
al you're not getting your full dude i know that know that Big Al is, you know, at the Disneyland version of this ride,
there used to be like bear-sized dressing room doors.
Yeah.
And I always forget this, but Big Al's full name is technically Big Albert,
which is very funny to me in that it sounds like a thing that John Kerry
messed up on the campaign trail
like he was just like i love the music of big albert or like when he would get like when a
politician just clumsily like they were prepped with a local reference and they eat it like they
do something a little wrong what did john kerry say did he have a famous mess up of the uh well
i mean his whole vibe like nothing he said sounds natural
but in philadelphia he got a lot of flack because he went to a cheesesteak place and ordered a
cheesesteak with swiss cheese which get the fuck out of here fancy man like that you don't do that
that doesn't fly cost him the election cost him the election yeah jason voted for bush
it genuinely could not in his case he was i don't
think he came close but being that pennsylvania is a swing state sure you really can't mess that
one up yeah you got a very densely populated southeastern pa so you gotta know don't fuck up
your sandwiches any future candidates please the future of the world depends on that's true
and jason's willing to coach you through regional roles and candies.
Yeah.
Because I think he had Pittsburgh, because Teresa Hines Carey,
you know, that she would have Pittsburgh.
She'd be like, okay, some of the places here put French fries and coleslaw
on the sandwich.
So don't be confused, John.
Like, don't freak out, you know?
Jason, you brought up that room.
I love that room.
I got to be in that room in Japan, the pre-show room.
Yes.
With essentially nobody in it, because there was this horrible rainstorm, the only one of my Japan trip, that cleared out Tokyo Disneyland.
And since we survived it, we had every room to ourselves.
So we're just running around.
I hadn't looked at the pictures
in a long time but we went up to
every door because
all of these characters and probably one thing we
gotta do is sort out these characters
because I didn't have them straight till
I started thinking about this show
more but every character
has doors that represent their
their height it's little
it's short doors for short characters,
tall doors for tall characters.
There's doors that expand out in the seat zone,
like in only the seat zone,
so they can make it through.
Swingin' Teddy Barra, the one who is...
Is it Barra or Barra?
Am I saying Barra?
I always heard it as Barra.
It's probably Barra.
I might be, all right.
I'll stop it there. Sw bear uh uh i think there's a little ladder uh and the door is up in
the ceiling oh so she's gonna climb up to get to her spot um and so much other fun nonsense like
there is the song that they they sing you on the way out the door.
There is musical notation of it that's scratched into wood.
Like Henry, the host, like made the music notes,
but scratched it with his claw.
I think they also have a record that they scratched themselves,
like a weird clunky bear scratched vinyl
a lot of fun details in that opening room yeah that's really great um i i'm trying to remember
we we i end up feel like we ended up rushing through that more in tokyo when we were there
um but going through back on the youtube and looking at it it's like it is a pro now would
you say scott this cue is
something that you would just skip immediately to go into the theater i'm just saying it sounds
pretty great i think that there's no version where you there'd be like a long enough line where you
you'd have to but um but if there was a teleport machine outside of the country bear to teleport
you right into your seat.
It goes straight.
Look, the answer is yes.
There is no unskippable queue.
There's no such thing.
I stand by this.
This is not the episode to get into it.
It's not the episode to do it.
We have too much.
Too much to cover.
Sorry.
Too much.
We don't have the time here to discuss the issue that I was correct on, in which there was almost no support for the other side.
Anyway, moving on.
Well, we'll discuss it in 2022.
Great.
We'll smoke your market for that
because, again, I have emails.
We'll talk.
So curious about these emails.
I was, boy, that morning,
I thought I was going to open.
I thought everybody was going to be so mad at me.
It was just a day of,
I'm just laying back and vet.
Ah, another Scott is right.
Why another Scott is right.
Felt good.
Felt good to be me.
We'll have to, you know, it'll be a whole, we'll do two and a half hours.
And we'll bring in many judges.
I think too, there'll be a lot of independent, like independent councils and independent
judiciary bodies to help us litigate this.
Whatever it takes.
I'm ready for it.
I'm up for it.
Yeah.
2022 folks prepare for it. I'm up for it. Yeah, 2022, folks.
Prepare for it.
Anyway, the building that you're in is Grizzly Hall.
Hallowed Grizzly Hall.
That's technically where you are.
I'm trying to think of anything else
before you're in the place.
You know, it's just a great place
to see that beautiful Disney wood.
Yeah.
It's the best thing about Frontierland or anything with a similar theme that it's old and tarnished, but also shiny.
You want to like touch every inch of the room.
Yeah.
That wood just looks great, feels great.
And I, yeah, I do love grizzly hall there's the old before they redid
like mrs knots i got the same vibe even though the country bear lobby is better it's like i still
get the same vibe like you're a hundred years back in time maybe like there's an old vibe there
yeah i i remember kind of all my memories of Countryman's Jamboree are being in this room largely empty, not just when I went recently in Tokyo.
But like usually, because I feel like just my park day trajectory would always be I wouldn't get here till close to closing.
So you're and everybody's kind of like nobody's seeing this thing late.
And I just have fond memories of like Disneyland's getting dim and it's all lantern lit around frontierland now and a lot of a lot of kids have gone home but my mom's sticking
it out with me whatever it is and where we got we got grizzly hall to ourselves um so yeah your
memory is see because i saw this when i was little and i always liked it but i i was not i didn't like
country music as a little kid no i liked the animal i
like the robots but i obviously didn't get any of the joke i didn't get most of the jokes so it
didn't make a huge impression on me it's like do you have memories of seeing it specifically you're
saying i guess you do um i do i like i mean my whole thing with it i feel like i i find this
thing like uh i always liked it as a
kid and i find it so pleasant and fun and i've i've always dug it but the characters have always
been muddy in my head i don't i haven't like i don't have a lot of like individual beats memory
it's just a general feeling i like those guys on the wall uh but i didn't have the names memorized but where do you but like uh did you get up to
speed mike in preparing for jamber week or did you have a lot of this mythology set just from
like liking it in the last decade no there's still a lot of stuff i had to refresh like i know who
wendell is i know who big al is i know the sunbonnet trio but there's i like i need oscar
is the little boy you referenced
i believe baby oscar baby oscar yeah i didn't know that um i couldn't have picked out zeke and zeb
like which one is which in the even though it's in the song if you think about it because he says
who's playing what and somewhere it's implied that zeb is the father of baby oscar i believe
that's correct i have that written down just to make sure.
Yeah, it's Zeb's son, it says.
Yeah.
When I saw this in Florida recently, first off, packed theater, everyone into it, clapping along. But also, much of the day, Wendell and Big Al on the roof, waving, waving, taking pictures.
Mugging.
Still doing the suits.
Still the suited characters.
Yeah, there's a
lot there's a lot of cavalcades uh right now in florida a lot of quick character pop-ups or
character or like chip and dale were doing like loops on a rail on like the uh rafts over to tom
sewer island they had one of the rafts set aside and they were on the rafts like in cowboy attire
waving like doing so one. So, one everywhere.
There was one point where we were standing on that sort of footbridge shortcut in Frontierland.
And you could see Chippendale doing raft loops.
There was a cavalcade-like float coming by with a bunch of characters.
And then Big Al and Wendell are on top doing a dance to the music the float is playing.
And so, everywhere you look, there was stuff going on so that was very exciting wow wow yeah that's one thing to say that the country bears have maintained as uh suited characters and they
still show up in disneyland once in a while don't they like special events oh yeah we got our
pictures with them i believe that when we did we did thanksgiving years ago at the disneyland hotel
at the buffet we had thanksgiving at the disneyland hotel at the buffet we had thanksgiving
at the disneyland hotel many years ago we had photos with them then uh they'll they'll pop up
in california adventure sometime over in the grizzly peak area wow uh and then of course i
danced with them in tomorrowland a couple years ago at a dance course i walked over and excitedly
took some photos with them because they were all dancing to like a DJ
with a bunch of people.
So yeah, they wander around.
Has anybody seen Club Buzz yet?
Have we heard?
This is a no, we don't have time to do this,
but there's like a light rave happening
at Tomorrowland at night now in Disneyland
where Buzz Lightyear stands on the top
of the Interventions building
while like loud music plays, like mm, mm loud music plays like music and a lot of lights.
Oh, interesting.
Because Club Buzz was also the name of the short lived name of the Tomorrowland stage
for a little while.
Yes, I think it's.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe I'm misremembering, but I think it's Club Buzz what they're calling it, but I could
be wrong.
Oh, that's fine.
So anyway, that's a different.
Hopefully the country bears will party there in Tomorrowland again,
and I'll get to see them.
Sure.
Hope so.
If they aren't busy.
If they aren't busy.
They can make time.
Yeah.
Well, their home was destroyed, so.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
The many adventures of Winnie the Pooh has so much blood on its hands.
Toad Hall, Grizzly, the theater.
Yeah.
It's evicted.
Some of the greats. Let's keep talking about characters. Yeah, it's evicted. Some of the greats.
Let's keep talking about characters.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's get everybody straight and give them their due.
And I don't think there's any order we got to go in here,
but just like, let's talk about everybody.
Well, yeah.
Do you want to do the guys on the wall?
Yeah.
Yeah, I guess we are.
That's order.
But Melvin, Moose.
So, yeah, basically they're mounted heads of animals and they're talking in case you haven't seen the show.
I also, by the way, I know it's an hour in, but maybe you watch the show, too, if you haven't seen it ever.
Yeah, I was thinking back.
To know what the hell we're talking about?
Because you mentioned the show getting shortened.
And we both went down around 2012 2011 and so we like and and it was closed in august of that year to
shorten it so it's very very good chance that we saw one of the last showings the last runs of like
the full maybe unabridged show that's interesting yeah i'm not sure you can find the unabridged
show on the record album which you can get on the itunes store and that that has the banter
it has the extra the song that was cut and then some other area music kind of stuff yeah the full
show is still in japan they still do the full one in japan oh okay um but they've got and all the
holiday versions and they have yes the other two versions that they don't do that in florida which so yeah so so there's three mounted heads uh max uh buff and melvin buff is a buffalo
melvin is a moose wait max melvin's a moose max is a deer yes okay um yes and i think that's
probably my favorite aspect of it as a kid.
That's like utilizing the space in an exciting way.
The show is not just in front of you.
It's over here.
It's all around you, and you get to leave the theater under them,
and they're still singing.
The show is still going on. And I didn't know that, or I forgot that the Mount heads were also up in a restaurant next door to both of the American versions at the mile-long bar that you would go.
And the heads were there.
And they were moving the entire time.
Once every few minutes, there would be a song.
And if there wasn't a song, they're just like looking around and blinking
in a very chucky cheese fashion it's all very chucky cheese yeah when you read about it um but
yeah those i i what do what was the year that closed those places closed do we know in the 90s
sometime i don't think i ever went in those i didn't have a memory of going in those do you do you remember that all
that stuff i mean wasn't a lot of that was closed with um the the uh winnie the pooh when it shifted
from bear country oh i thought it was it both even before though i think i have the faintest
childhood memory i'd say okay yeah and wait and they're out here too? It's also like, it felt funny to me that they're,
and is it the same ones or did they move?
Did they, are they alive animals with full bodies and they just walked over to different holes?
The mile long bar I read had mirrors at either end
so that it wasn't obviously a mile long,
but it would look longer.
The image bounced back and forth
and yeah, it looked like it went on into infinity.
Yeah, that's cool Frontierland flavor
or whatever, Bear Country flavor.
I, you know, as often I do,
I like going to these Disney.fandom type places
or this might have been on the Sea,
the Society of Explorers and Engineers specific wiki uh which because i think there's
in some bizarre way you could say that melvin buff and max the heads are in the sea universe
and i don't remember why it seemed like a stretch to me oh interesting but i'm reading a thing
and uh this is a nice way to put what they are um melvin buff and max were a were a moose, buffalo, and deer, which at some point
in the 19th century were hunted and turned
into taxidermy-mounted heads.
However, the three did not die,
and instead stayed sentient via
unknown means, and were also able
to communicate in English.
I mean, that is
correct, I guess. It is true.
I can't argue
with the truth of what they're saying it's just a
bizarre way to put it i don't know how you know 19th century i don't know that like that they
stayed alive i just don't look i don't think of the reality of isn't it just that magic happens
i think that when the cast member walks up to the front of the room and starts the show he also kind
of like he brings a little pixie dust with him and it turns the i don't think these are alive
and if so they're not singing if these heads are have been alive for 200 years
and feel the pain of when their body was severed off of them you're saying it's a more fun it's a
it's better to think about it like oh just by you
know touching the dial it turns magic on and they're alive again and it's a fun little show
they put on and then they go back to not existing their consciousnesses again gone they don't know
the pain of having died or being dead or it's magic has to be involved it It's got to be like a Beauty and the Beast enchanted objects in the castle situation.
Right.
Not some weird, they held on to a glimmer of life.
There's just a few alive brain cells.
They live the most tortured existence of any creature.
Yeah, okay.
That's less fun.
It is similar.
I have not read the Oz books and i i have not read many books
because i'm a fucking idiot but uh the oz books there's a character in return to oz that's a
disembodied moose head um that's like mounted that that kind of flies helps them fly like
whatever kind of like sleigh that's i was just looking up the name because i forgot the name
the name is the gump but i do wonder where is like this is the character.
So I wonder if this was maybe inspired by an old Frank L. Baum character.
Oh, probably.
He had a lot of influence.
So I wonder, yeah, I wonder if is he the originator of disembodied animal head that's still alive?
Where's the first instance of that in fiction?
I don't know.
Could be.
He's a monster, if so.
Yeah.
Condemned these fictional characters to.
The Gump is not as fun as these three characters.
I will say that.
A lot more disturbing.
Buff, my favorite voice in all of Theme Park World,
is Thurl Ravenscroft the deep voice the deepest
voiced guy sure one of the bus uh uh opened the fantasy land castle that guy so that's another
thing that gives me fun thrill ravenscroft is just a texture in in similar to like i don't know i
like disneyland lanterns and the way they light up trees and i like the wood and i like the voice
of that guy that's just like part of enough of the attractions and yeah fabric of the place that it's magical to
me yeah i was gonna mention max the buck is voiced by peter renaday who is not also in this show he
is the voice of henry your master of ceremonies has come come up before on the show because he is the voice of Captain Nemo in the 20,000 Leagues attraction in Florida.
He's doing the James Mason impression.
I didn't realize this, or maybe I had a couple of realizations
where I was like, I may have known this at some point
and totally forgot it and relearned it.
He is the voice for years of the um tomorrowland transit authority when that
reopened the people mover the narration the narration until 2009 and from like 94 2000 he's
the guy uh and and that means he is also my phone ringtone because a portion of that announcement
is my phone ringtone get your phone on on. I'm going to call you.
I'm going to call you.
Yeah, what do you mean a portion of it?
Let's hear it.
Yeah, turn everything off.
I don't know if I've ever played this before.
I don't.
Yeah.
Nor have I heard you get a phone call, apparently.
Once a month when I actually get a phone call with a ring, because it's usually on vibrate.
Okay, here we go.
I never have my phone on, yeah.
All right.
Let's see if we can hear.
Tomorrowland Transit Authority metro liner non-stop
now departing rocket tower plaza station for a round trip super skyway tour
whoa and and and that was a pain in the ass to clip too because if you try to make a ringtone
uh in this modern era it is um yeah it's real pain in the ass there's so much security stuff still on the
iphone so you had to rip i think i had to rip a youtube video for the audio and then edit the
audio down and then convert it to ringtone file type and then add it to itunes and then import
that to my phone oh so this is not this was not available for you you made this custom i yeah i
made this you just confessed to a crime this. You just confessed to a crime.
I did confess to a crime.
Peter Renaday's not getting any residuals.
No.
Every time you have a phone call, he should get a couple bucks.
Well, he should.
And it's a shame he's not in the park because it's like,
some, hey, you're right.
And the people move it.
It's a different voice.
Oh, is it like a cool skateboarding kid?
It's a cool skateboarding kid since like 2009.
Oh, really? I didn't realize. I've've been on it i didn't even listen to that it's really maybe this should be maybe this
is unfair to put it on well no some of it jason knows peter renaday some money for sure but i
think at this point anybody who calls him like myself unfortunately i think i owe peter renaday
if anyone has peter renaday's address that voice that you heard
let me know so that I can send him
three cents in the mail
I think I owe him that much
I also tried to call you immediately
after to see if I could get this
to just go off constantly
in the episode but you've already
forwarded me with the I back to do not disturb
to vibrate and do not disturb
what would it sound like if the
if you were called and you put the phone next to the jug would that would that reverberate
was playing the jug i guess it wouldn't be that probably wouldn't sound like anything also all
this talk i hope i have that fact right because i i saw it and i because i always just assumed
because it sounds very Jack Wagner-y.
And I was like, oh, did they get in to do this?
I looked it up.
Jack Wagner was alive.
He passed away in 95.
So, I was like, okay, it was possible.
But then I'm seeing people saying that it was him.
Do you double check?
I think so.
Well, and the big voice of this guy is Splinter.
This is Splinter. He's voices in the Country Bear Jamboree. He's the host big voice of this guy is Splinter. This is Splinter.
He's voices in the Country Bear Jamboree.
He's the host of the Country Bear Jamboree.
And he's Splinter, not just in the cartoon,
but in the coming out of their shells live.
Yes.
He does the spoken word.
Before, we did all have a set about this on the Patreon,
where there's spoken spoken word which sounds like
old splinter before it shifts over to sub brian adams standing in water nature surrounds me
skipping stones uh which i was by the way singing this in the car in New Orleans two days ago, I think. Water surrounds me.
Which was preceded by you saying, I have a pitch for our first dance at our wedding.
Oh, my God.
You know it's on the list.
You know it's on the list.
Keep on.
Really?
Well, I'm sure it's a perfectly normal and romantic song.
Mike, would you feel free to sing it to me?
If you insist.
Let me get the outfit on first, though.
Wait a minute.
I'm also seeing the names B.J. Ward and Mike Brazel
under Tomorrowland Transit Authority,
so this is going to drive me nuts now.
Oh, no.
Well, you know what?
With the characters, some of the characters in the country,
bears I know have had two voices.
People have done.
Right.
BJ Ward is now, it looks like.
I think you were completely correct.
Oh, okay.
BJ Ward is the one who's like, this guy.
He's talking about like.
Because when you're writing it, there was the narrator
and then there was announcements.
And they're very similar in tone, the voices.
BJ Ward is now and mike
brassell there's no such person i think you hallucinated that oh but it says on disney
oh okay never mind you made him up you're seeing things we don't have to deal with mike brassell
there's no mike brassell um uh so so he's great and he's henry henry is the host of the show
uh in his in his top hat and his dapper
what is it called when you have
just a... Like a dickie?
Yes, there you go. Yes.
He's got a dickie. It's what Big Bird wears
when he dresses up. That's right.
That's as dressed up as
cartoon characters and puppets are
typically required to get. It's so great.
That's another thing I'd love to know. Who the first...
Yogi Bear is wearing a tie. He's wearing a hat too but like what the idea that a cartoon character
is naked except for just a little bit of some decoration around their neck is so funny yeah
yeah uh because who was the first who was the first maybe that was buck owens did buck owens
was he naked on stage except for a tie or a dickie? I don't know.
A lot of these honky tonk type musicians.
They were like red hot chili peppers
in the old days.
Just penis out. They didn't even bother to
didn't bother him.
Didn't bother him. Different time.
Or you could
have like a raccoon
blocking your...
If you could get a hide to perfectly hide.
Yeah.
Your junk.
Henry's the one who has various creatures popping out of his hat.
Yes.
The vacation one.
It's a skunk.
And this one,
it's a raccoon because he's wearing on top of it.
It's a hat on a hat.
We have a literal hat on a hat.
Yes.
Situation,
the worst thing in the,
in comedy possible,
but it's happening here and it's great
it's a top hat with
the Davy Crockett raccoon hat on top
of it but then face comes out
of it and it is a real raccoon
who harmonizes with him
Sammy
Sammy is the raccoon
kudos to Sammy
I think Henry is not drunk
or just a little buzzed henry seems enough to get
comfortable yeah yeah um so but henry's a seemingly a nice bear he seems nice which is good does his
job well he doesn't mess anything up i right put his professionalism very high well he gets you
know he gets yelled at i think once like henry help me out here um but yeah basically he's he's
on point yeah uh and there's, he's on point.
Yeah.
And there's a couple of him.
That's one thing I like is that he pops up on the right side of the stage
and the left side of the stage.
Like he's running all around,
you know,
like the host of the Oscars might sometimes they come out of the wings to
them.
They're up in the audience.
That's fun.
Henry's Henry's all over.
You feel welcome.
One thing I like about this show
is the way he's figuring out the mechanics of it.
It's got kind of the cleverness
of the Carousel of Progress
where those side stages have to rotate
to allow more acts to come out.
I'm right about this, right?
Curtains close.
Henry might do an introduction.
Curtains close.
And then that entire area has to swivel so that another character can show up.
Trixie shows up there, I believe.
In the same spot.
On the same thing.
And then Henry comes back.
Because if you'll notice, a lot of them come back for the ending number, but Trixie does not.
Oh, because Trixie's spot is taken.
Trixie is.
And there's only one Trixie trixie is there's only one trixie robot yeah there's only
one but like the sun bonnets come up story three like cut out rudely right yeah justice for trixie
yeah they should make a new rope i mean they should they should honestly been adding like
three bears per year since this opened so there were even on the sides and stuff like there should
have been so many more bears by now but they're never gonna do it obviously well in different you know they were starting to we had our christmas version
that they did a christmas overlay and they did a summer vacation overlay and then it stops they
didn't do like i'm trying to think because if these stop happening in the 90s what did we miss
out on they didn't do a gulf war benefit they didn't do a like let's get our troops home safe yeah they didn't do like a warped
tour they didn't do a warp tour country bears a live aid yeah yeah with bear bear geldof
doing i what's the boomtown rat song mondays i don't likeays. Is that what it's called? I don't like Mondays, tell me why.
That's a Bob Goldoff song.
Phil Crawlins traveled to both.
There were two.
The Concord, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know how you, the corn on the cob cord.
He took the corn on the cob cord so that he could be at the Orlando and the LA ones.
But nobody knew how he did it, but he made it. so that he could be at the Orlando and the LA ones both.
Nobody knew how he did it, but he made it. What a funny show to do on both coasts all the time
and then go back and forth with live feeds to each coast.
Oh, yeah.
And it's real.
And the camera, they have to be synced up.
This is difficult because there's whole hours of operation.
They have to open the park early.
Yes.
It always has to be open at the same time.
Or I guess you could do it where it's like when it's not open, it's just like the, it's not the live feed.
They have just like a placeholder video.
But you can see.
Well, you know, it's tough to sync them up, which is why, like to have a duet happen from across the world, which is why David Barry and Mick. Oh, shoot. shoot what is a mick jagger what's a mick jag
bear few when in doubt just make it bear david barry and mick jag bear uh when they they did
their um is dance does the songs have to change can it still be dancing in the streets oh yeah
well they they know they don't have bare versions of these songs they're just They're just doing real songs or songs that were written for the show.
So, yeah, I guess it could just be Dancing in the Streets.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, that's why they pre-taped it is what I'm saying.
Right, right.
David Barry.
Clawing in the streets.
Oh, wait.
No, David Barry and Mick Jagger did Dancing in the Trees.
Okay.
Okay.
Of course.
Yeah, of course.
Country bear live aid, folks.
Did Josh DeMauro announce this at the show,
the thing this morning that we're recording?
A totally interactive, completely retro show
we think will blow audiences out of their chairs.
So yes, we are rebuilding the country bear Jamboree and evicting the poo ride so that we can do Country Bear Live Aid.
So we can make a parody of Live Aid.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, in a couple of years, that will get downgraded.
Much like the Luxury Hotel was downgraded, the Live Aid Bear version will get downgraded to a very small lawn.
Oh, we can dream yeah um well yeah they look they should have kept them going you know they'll show about y2k paranoia paranoia yeah but we
missed out on so much i know yeah no growl cello oh yeah That'd be the way to do it. Like, you do it, all right, the theater's gone, but now you do it open air.
You do put them on a lawn.
Oh, yeah, it doesn't rain that much here.
We can do Disneyland easy.
The weather's pretty consistent much of the year, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's a multi-stage outdoor festival.
Put the stage over at the end like it's by the exit of Splash Mountain.
That's a dead end there.
Demolish the poo gift shop. Pretty much. Just put a big stage there yeah yeah yeah and it's a shade so you have
to stay for three full days to see you have to live there yeah for three days because you got
to keep the money there that's what walt was was worried about yes bare cello with growl cello
would is that what you said yeah growl cello would finally achieve vault's
ultimate dream walt would have tried to get into like the the concert venue like he would have been
like we should have a disney three-day event like he would have kind of come up with something like
that i assume yeah because he liked always like to ladies and gentlemen annette funicella this is in
1979 either's like 89.
He submitted a big list of artists and just like, no, no, body,
no, no, offensive, no.
French,
no. Whatever weird reason
he has. The Marine Corps
band.
John Philip Sousa.
John Philip Sousa Jr.
That band of Imagineers who all wear fire hats.
They're allowed to play.
The fireman jazz band.
Yeah.
My theory that celebrities are just going to start coming back from the dead
once the technology is there.
Walt will be one of the first, I think, to come back.
And then this will happen.
Then he'll start bringing back who we're talking about from the dead. So, Annette will come back. For example, Shed will come back and then this will happen he'll start then he'll start bringing back who we're talking about from the dead so net will come back for example shed will come back
yeah he fires the full hollywood records slate he fires anyone yeah yeah and it's all just
everyone is back i only want like i only want neatly dressed girls singing about popcorn
and i oh who are these Avengers?
Can we get a net
in the Avengers?
Well, he sees the money
that's coming in
and he's like, fine,
but can we put some of them
in like some
red checkered dresses?
Why don't the women
of the Avengers
wear red checkered dresses?
They don't play the ukulele.
What's the tie clip situation with these Avengers?
Tell you what, I like them all.
Keep the movies the way they are, but this Robert Downey, I don't care for him, sordid past.
Can we digitally comp Harvey Korman's face on Iron Man's body?
All right, get to it.
Well, it's going to be a problem.
I don't want to hear it.
Good luck.
I'm going skiing.
Characters.
Liver Lips McGrell.
Let's talk about Liver Lips McGrell.
Yeah, he's got a funny outfit on.
Mm-hmm.
A lot of, yeah, there's a lot of funny outfit,
like what you were saying earlier,
with stuff barely hanging onto the bears,
being held up by like one
overall strap or one suspender strap he's got just the one strap look i'm looking at a drawing
of him so i don't know how much the actual the reality reflects it but i bet it does a lot
he's kind of he's got hair cover in his eyes this is probably waltz jab at rock stars and how foolish
they look well right and in the in the in the summer show he is rock
and roll star he's elvis is the character is elvis essentially basically so yeah that is sort of you
know um these old men being like this is what rock stars are like these awful they don't know
how to dress themselves yeah their haircuts or lack thereof, are really a vision issue.
Mm-hmm.
They're liable to fall off the stage.
Yeah, I don't know what Mark Davis thought of the Beatles or anything.
I don't know.
Mark Davis might have done those vultures in the Jungle Cruise who look like the Beatles.
Oh, maybe.
He might have been.
Maybe.
That's a
guess it's similar looking oh right right but that's kind of you know that was one of their
only comments on rock and roll at the time and uh it was similar it was just they got hair covering
their eyes i guess you know the monkey's uncle is a rock and roll song technically by disney
standards yeah the annette beach boys duet, Monkey's Uncle.
So there was a little bit of it, you know?
That again, I've talked about Beach Boys.
Beach Rootier School is not in the rotation so much.
Monkey's Uncle, I would say, is not anywhere in the rotation.
I do not.
I can't say I recreationally listen to Monkey's Uncle.
What about Let's Get Together from The Parent Trap?
Well, you got no Beach Boys on that, so no. Oh, oh okay he's talking about beach boys specifically oh beach boys you guys blessed and
let's get together yeah car a lot hailey mills uh wedding dance candidate yeah i listen to that
sherman brothers cd so it's not uncommon that like pineapple princess is playing or something
from that album from their greatest hits.
Who did the music for this?
It's not Sherman Brothers.
And a lot of them are covers.
It's George Bruns.
George Bruns.
Bruns, excuse me.
Who did a lot of the animated films at the time.
And Exitensio.
He wrote the lyrics.
I have, hold on.
I have in the, there's so many notes here.
I have like the, I have the credits for songs for the show.
So yeah, like for instance, the big band Serenade,
which is the big thing where they introduced the five bear rugs
who we haven't talked, we've talked a little bit about,
but that one's Exitensio and George Bruns.
They wrote that song.
Okay.
That where they all like,
Zip and Zed and that's better.
They're named Tennessee.
Yeah.
It's kind of one of the grander,
I mean, it's always exciting when the,
you know, you got your side acts, right?
You got your little stages
and that's where a lot of the characters appear solo.
They get little solo spotlight numbers, but the most exciting moment in any of the shows when the big stage
opens up and the full band the peers yeah um when they and the way it all rolls up is one big unit
that's like that's some real concert theatrics that yeah the the big moments in the concert
and i'm trying to think of like other big concert
moments in history like like teddy bear i think in this one is a bit is like the big it's the
what you're saying the big rollout at the start and then teddy bear is the other one i think where
you go like wow look at their bear she's coming from the ceiling this place is exploding with
bears it's exploding with bears pop up under my seat i might go to the restroom yeah and they
might burst out of the toilet yeah um but those are yeah huge huge moments uh in this concert but
yeah the five the bears playing all together uh which you like you never get oh this is just a
side note i'm thinking like you never get like no bear wears out their welcome also you would
think if you were like let's just do a bear show and it's like six bears and it's 15 minutes.
Yeah.
You can have six bears or whatever, but they're those constant, you're getting assaulted by bears constantly during the show in a good way.
Not literally, luckily.
No, in a good way.
Yeah.
The bears maintain their distance.
Yeah.
Stay on the stage.
Right.
So they are well trainedtrained in that regard.
You don't get attacked by these bears.
No, these are not bears that are going to maul you.
I don't get a bad vibe from any of the bears as far as, like, violence.
I mean, some of them are singing about violence, but...
Sure.
Well, it's not...
And, you know, and the ones that booze are only hurting themselves.
That's true.
So, yeah, yeah.
Do you think anybody would, like, you know,
like if I were to take my son in a couple of years
and his reality is blurred, he knows where bears are
and we're going to see a bear show.
Is it possible that he thinks, is he scared to go to this
because the bears might at any point drop the instruments
see a delicious kid sitting in the front row i dive if you're in the front row i think with a
lot of this for me at least when i was a kid proximity is a big deal so if you're in the
front row i mean there's still pretty there's still pretty big space between the front row
and the stage i assume that's for general admission in the front there.
There's a pit maybe if they have too many people in there one day.
Get in the pit, girls to the front.
Yeah, there's a pit.
There's a mosh pit going on at the bear show,
but I've never seen that.
But I would assume, yeah, proximity-wise,
there's a very good chance that your son will, yes,
think the bears are going to eat him.
Yeah.
At the very least, take him and put him up on stage like poor Oscar.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yes, he has to live with them now.
He might have to live with them, yeah,
because that kid isn't even having any fun on stage.
He looks a little shy.
He's there with his dad.
Yeah, like mom couldn't take him that day or something.
He's kind of in the almost famous scenario.
He's along with the band.
Yeah, yeah.
He's in the crew, but not, you know.
So the five bear rugs are Stillwater.
He's the writer, Henry, I think.
I don't remember the name.
He's Patrick Fugit.
And the Sun Bonnet Trio, I guess, is the...
It's Penny Lane.
Penny Lane.
And what are their names?
Oh, the Sunbonnet Trio?
No, no, no.
The names of the...
No, this is a tangent.
The names of the almost famous...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I might not come on up.
I can't.
I haven't seen the movie in forever.
Yeah.
But that's another... Obviously, they made a film about the country bears but that's a movie i might rather see there's
just something with the almost famous sheen right very like dramatic tour right um you know full of
romantic woes and uh and ending up with them being on the cover of Rolling Stone. Mm-hmm. And that's- Rowling Stone.
I would love to see the bear version of Philip Seymour Hoffman's character, because he's
playing a real life guy.
He's playing the guy from Cream Magazine.
Lester Bangs.
Yeah, he's playing Lester Bangs.
Lester Bears.
Lester Bears.
Lester Bears, yeah.
Jamboree music is dead,
man.
Don't you?
The band aids,
the band aids is what I was.
Right,
right,
right,
right.
Yeah.
Famous groupie,
Pamela to bears.
It's getting real.
It's getting really obscure.
Pretty dark too
uh um anyway uh oh yeah you know the country bears are on the cover of uh
climb magazine that's something that i saw in the lobby in japan okay uh that's a hard pun to get
when it's time magazine it's the style of time magazine, but it's Climb Magazine. Okay.
That's pretty good.
Current bear issues.
That's where they go.
That's good.
Do you want the names of the five bear rugs?
Yeah, please. Just please.
Zeke, who plays the banjo, the fiddle.
He's got the little bowler hat on.
He's also playing like the dish pan, basically, with his feet.
Or wait, no, excuse me.
Zeke is playing the banjo zed is playing
the fiddle i'm already confused uh ted plays the corn jug fred plays the mouth harp and then
tennessee bear is the one that has the bass with one string um and a lot i think all of them are
hammered i think they're all drunk these are the but that but that's the, you know, it's what, you know, Carson and the Tonight Show
band, it's always that these guys are smoking dupes in the parking lot.
This is the, this is what you want out of your 10-year position.
Yeah, sure, yeah.
You want them getting a little loose.
Yeah, well, so they're a unit.
And so if one's a little further gone, the others can carry this.
So many other acts are solo acts acts except the sun bonnets
yeah and and henry is the one who introduces all of them basically during this song yeah yeah they
all they each get called out um if we know now that it takes 30 at least 36 cans of beer to get
a bear drunk there's five of them then that's the rider for the Country Bear show.
The five bear rugs need 180 cans of beer.
Yeah, but shine can be a lot stronger.
Moonshine can be like paint thinner.
That's a good point.
Like rocket fuel.
Yeah, so they just leave a big trash can of paint thinner out,
and all the bear rugs dip their heads in.
If you smell really hard hard especially if you're in
the front row you can yeah yeah it smells like paint thinner stink it smells like the cleaner
that's what bleach or something that's why there's no pupils in their eyes a mountain dew mountain
dew originally a mixer for paint uh for not paint thinner for moonshine to make moonshine
that's what i always heard at least in the early days people would mix it really it's called mountain dew like a mountain yeah
like like the mountain like it was it was a more like country fried product and not as much like
for i think so for an outdated idea of what skateboarders are yeah no that was a big pivot
when it became like the extreme drink i think are we really are we
supposed to buy that it is because when you google it now it's just mtn this is a branding that no
one on the planet yeah they just took out some of the i mean it's like it's like a license plate
version of the it's like flicker or like you know when they they just take out the vows you know
wait it's mtn and then no DEW?
Look at a bottle when you leave here.
If you're getting your traditional post-show Mountain Dew at a 7-Eleven,
you'll see on the bottle it's just MTN.
Apparently it's been this way for a long time.
I just get a Super Golf.
I go to get it at the 7-Eleven.
I was going to say lean through the takeout window
or the drive-through window at Taco Bell.
I'm like, hey, can I see the baja blast uh pump can i see that can i see the jug of like syrup
does it say it on that like yeah what is the jug what does the canister say yeah um i was just
about to bring up and i really shouldn't because we're still behind probably i would say we're
behind but the i still like uh the character then that character person popcorn sutton have i ever talked about him before you've
not talked about popcorn sutton popcorn sutton was a bootlegger of moonshine in the old days and
he's i believe and somebody's gonna be mad i'm gonna be get this a little bit wrong he was um
part of what listener is gonna hold your feet to the fire about well he would moonshine a lot of listeners
in the holler and they're gonna come for mike jason knows i've talked about pop they have to
hand crank their podcast machines to uh for two straight hours to hear their crazy rigged up cars
that they had to outrun the feds in yeah but he used to challenge other like bootleggers to races
in a circle which is is how NASCAR started.
Yes, because they all had crazy souped up cars to outrun the police. To outrun the police, right.
During bootleg times.
Did you learn this in his autobiography?
Me and my liquor spelled also incorrectly like Current Mountain do.
L-I-K-K-E-R.
I did not.
I learned it.
It was like during college i
was visiting somebody we were watching like like cmt at like 2 p.m in the afternoon it was like
popcorn sutton is one of the popcorn sun that would have stopped me in my tracks i would put
anything aside i'd say to watch a biography of popcorn i don't know anything else about him i just know that yeah he they were seems like he died in a very dark way i'm sure look i don't
know anything about him if he's canceled i mean he's passed away i know but if he's canceled i'm
not saying i celebrate him or anything i'm just saying i find it an interesting fact that he was
a bootlegger and that's part of the genesis of nascar uh this man uh had a footstone prepared
in advance for his gravesite he knew what he wanted it to be and had it made years before
he died and what it says is popcorn said fuck you wait did you say a footstone what that's
the word that's in this wiki i've never heard that term before i've always heard headstone
i've never heard footstone interesting foot down here we got footstones i guess that's also uh you can get
those socks at the sock market at universal city walk let's say popcorn says fuck you
i i had a college professor who worked on a documentary about a similar character
named jessico white um and then another documentary
came out about him and his family called the wild wonderful whites of west virginia
but he was like that phrase but sure he was a maniac like bootlegger and uh he was really good
at like dancing like it was like a country kind of like tap dancing uh sort of thing but then sometimes
if he got real liquored up elvis would come out and a different person like oh it was jesse
sometimes he'd be jesse and sometimes he'd be jesco and you don't want to mess with jesco
anyway since we're just because we're talking about all these characters. Sure, yeah.
Who's the country bear most likely to have such a profane epitaph?
Who's got the most attitude?
Oh, that's a good question.
Let's see.
Not Henry.
Wendell's got like a mouth on him.
That's my first inclination is Wendell.
Wendell seems like he's like sassy.
Wendell said fuck you?
Wendell. Wendell seems like he's like sassy. Wendell said fuck you? Wendell says fuck you.
Gomer seems
very nice and quiet. He's a
piano player who doesn't really talk.
But what if he's just quietly
seething? Like he
has a lot of anger that we don't know
about. And then we get a Gomer said fuck you.
There's a weird line in the
original version that they've cut.
Scott, did you listen to the regular version? The original version that they've cut i just got did you listen to
the regular the original version i don't think so or well yeah maybe i don't know um because uh
i forget exactly which bear jason i think knows you what listen to this where they go yeah they're
talking about gomer and they're like yeah he's a regular liberace whoa no i didn't hear this and
then the other one of the other bears goes yeah and he plays good too which I guess I mean I that's what I was trying to figure out is it is it a gay joke is they
they're saying he's gay I've never maybe I don't but I know it's unclear because there's also like
it's also unclear because like later on there sometimes they do that thing where it's like
not really a joke that's like phrased like a joke where they're like we wrote these loud one of the
songs is like we wrote these lousy lyrics and we also wrote the words and it's like that's phrased like a joke, where they're like, we wrote these, one of the songs is like, we wrote these lousy lyrics, and we also wrote the words.
And it's like, that's not really a joke,
but it's kind of a joke.
Do you know what I mean?
It could just be that they're dumb.
Or Gomer is a pioneering gay piano player,
like Liberace and Elton John.
That's possible, too.
That's a possible reading of it.
Yeah.
But they have cut that from the show.
That is cut from the modern version of the show.
Well, they also, you can hear on the album track,
Henry says, you know, just refrain from hibernating,
something, something, and we'll all enjoy the show
because we got a lot to give,
which is a reference to Pepsi's slogan, you've got a lot to live, Pepsi's got a lot to give which is a reference to pepsi's slogan you've got a lot to live pepsi's got a lot
to give which pepsi sponsored this attraction for a while so it's possible that that line and then
this liberace line was just cut we're just cut because no one knew what the reference was anymore
not necessarily because it's a pretty obscure pepsi tagline people know who liberace is but when you
say the name weird liberace tougher to understand which i like it's funny to say liberace like
liberace sure yeah so um should we talk about the the big thing that they cut the song that they cut
oh which one uh the mama don't want a little still in it. Isn't that still in the show?
That's still in it?
Yeah, that was a good...
They cut a fractured folk song.
Oh.
Yeah, Mama Don't Whoop Little Buford is still in the show.
Oh, my God.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I saw it a couple weeks ago.
Yeah, they...
Oh, wow.
Cut a fractured folk song where Henry and Wendell duet on that.
Yeah.
And Wendell gives him shit for coming in late.
Jim Hill has talked about how this is probably...
This will get cut.
This is on the chopping block. It's a very brief song yes and it is a very dark it's a joke song but it's a very dark song yeah um which is just mama don't whoop little buford mama don't hit
something on his head mama don't whoop little buford i think you should shoot him instead
yeah but that sort of
shit i feel like still flies in country music country music still insanely popular well i don't
is there a kobe keith song about shooting a child does he talk about shooting someone in the apple
bees like song i don't know um oh what's the guy's name what's that song i like about apple
bees on a date night yeah we both discovered this guy this. Scott, you know this song? I don't know.
By this point,
we discovered it late
because it was...
Yeah, it was in the commercial.
It was a song
and then it became
a TikTok dance sensation
and then Applebee's
used it in a commercial
and the guy was...
And it's about like
taking your lady
to Applebee's on date night
and getting her
the bourbon street steak
and an Oreo shake.
Scott, if you don't hate this
with all your being, I think I totally misjudged you and everything and and they heightened it
recently because there's a remix with kesha doing a verse on it it's called fancy like
fancy like the applebee's commercial you know it's hard for me to hate toby keith because i
don't come across it's not on my desk a lot you know there another guy. This is another guy. Who is this? This is Walker Hayes.
Okay.
We got to get to the chorus first.
I don't know what he's saying enough to get the gist here.
Yeah, you'll have to listen at home in private.
Well, give me some lyrics, though.
What are we fancy like?
It's not the chorus yet.
Yeah, the chorus already played.
But that was Natty, Natural Ice, Natural Light, Natural Ice, squeaking in the truck bed.
So that's Natural Light in a styrofoam cooler squeaking in the truck bed all the way home.
Yeah, we fancy like Applebee's on a date night.
Got that bourbon street steak with the Oreo shake.
I would say nothing about this terribly bothers me.
Look, I think I'd have trouble if I had to hear this music all the time.
If I was married to someone who made me listen to this all the time,
that could be tough.
But you know what?
I don't think I'm going to run into that song naturally on the street.
If you see the Applebee's commercial, though, you'll know what it is.
It's a lot of these songs, like, obviously,
Toby Keith has some just dogshit politics and opinions.
I was going to say, in terms of violence, there's the, you know,
put a boot
up your ass it's the american way but yeah osama bin laden this is how a lot of people were feeling
about osama bin laden yeah i mean obviously i think maybe he in his mind he wasn't just
saying that about one person i don't know but likely not but certainly but uh but i will say
this red solo cup is a good song.
I have to give it up to the guy with terrible opinions in politics.
This is a thing that, Mike, every few years, a song comes out that's just so technically like a hit.
Red Solo Cup, Chicken Fried.
You've ever heard the song Chicken Fried?
And this Applebee's is the newest.
Zac Brown Band, yeah.
Really, you've got your country hit of every two years. song chicken fried and this applebee's is the newest zach brown band yeah okay chicken really
you end up like you've got your like country hit of every two years yeah yeah i waited for that
in the past we we sat around trying to like reverse engineer like like if this truck could
talk like this truck cab could talk like how do you mathematically create one of these so just
like you can do with a lifetime christmas movie oh yeah how do you line up sort of a mad libs yeah name a restaurant name a type
of pants yeah probably gonna be jeans yeah blue jeans tight fit yeah i've done it yeah i've done
it a little bit with jimmy buffett i've done i wrote the song uh uhiding Out in a Pelican's Beak and the song My Wife is a Boat.
So those exist.
But I haven't recorded one of these country versions.
Do you think the country bears have influenced your taste to go this way?
Is there any correlation between the slightly country air of Jimmy Buffett and your love of the country bears?
It's a good question i do think yes
i think actually the answer sincerely is yes on some level because i am very fascinated with
old time like as we've talked on the show bob wills and his texas playboys roly-poly like
old like at this point 100 year old music uh that sounds like it was recorded in a tiny little
like can um and then recently of course little jimmy dickens i am fascinated with some of these
and some of these songs i think are legitimately good you say of course the another throwing around
of course like i know what you're talking about was little jimmy dickens little jimmy dickens
uh little jimmy dickens oh that helped jason thank you no more questions
little jimmy dickens remember we looked him up this is a small guy this he only passed away a
few years ago but he was uh remember we looked this up he had done a sketch like 10 years ago
with brad paisley at the country music awards where he played justin bieber okay oh i kind of
little justin bieber did this come up in america sings or we probably so yeah bullshit again yeah um but he has uh uh he has a song called
take an old cold tater and wait which is about how the most buffety stuff yeah yeah and he said
and he has a song uh and basically the song is just how he was malnourished as a child and that's
why he's so short that's the whole that's the whole point of the song like his mom didn't feed him very well
and that's why he's so short uh and i don't know this stuff is all fascinating to me and some of
it i think is legit um enjoyable i think some of these songs in the country bears are legit good
we you know we can keep character jumping around, like, let's give some songs some due.
Well, yeah.
In this territory, it seems like I think you like songs
that aren't afraid to be a little funny,
that aren't afraid to reference things
that other songs would be embarrassed to reference.
And that, I think, is what the country bears have,
where you get a sense of a character and a guy's way of life.
And it might be odd but
it's just the way i am yes uh there there's i mean every song in it is pretty good uh some of them
are like funny and some of them are not really funny like i'm sure the idea like tricksy is
singing that song uh what tears would be the chaser My Wine. Yes. But that's a good song.
That's like just a legit pretty song.
Pretty. Yeah. I don't know. It's a pretty song. We do a lot of cute
here. Is the Tears in My Wine song, Tears of the Chaser
for My Wine pretty? I think so. Yeah, it's pretty. It's a little melancholy.
Yeah, it's for sure melancholy. A lot of these are melancholy yeah it's for sure a lot of these are heart we
did all that we could yes teddy bear song this is a lot of now i i really don't know which of
these are covers and which of these are well i have country bear original i think this might
be and i'll save some of this for down the road but there's i i maybe generally like Vacation a little more
because I think I remember the songs a little more
and I know more of those are original.
Maybe it's just the one I saw more
because I think Disney switched over permanently.
Well, that's good.
Yeah, that is more.
I mean, that is on the road again.
It has more.
Oh, wait.
Actually, there are a lot of covers.
Yeah, you're right.
There are some covers in that one too um but this one yeah i like uh let's see here i have
a list of all the songs um by the way just i was like is there are there any google results if i
put in jimmy buffett and country bear jamboree and there's only a comment that references that
this what jimmy posted reminded them of the country bear jamboree and there's only a comment that references that this what jimmy posted
reminded them of the country bear jamboree because he posted a photo of him holding a giant fish
fish like as tall as he is uh and his caption was um posted i believe the month that we saw him
live at the hollywood bowl uh but i got to stop wishing got got to go fishing, which is very much like the Great Outdoors song.
It's like almost the same as,
I think nobody would bat an eyelash
if Jimmy Buffett started putting Country Bear songs in the set.
No, no, it makes complete sense.
I think I've told this story.
Nothing is almost too absurd for Jimmy Buffett songs.
I wrote this i literally i did
a thing for uh screen junkies at the time jason and i went to go cover the opening of margaritaville
and i wrote a song called hiding out in a pelican's beak about a guy who cheats on his wife
and hides out in a pelican's beak until she's not mad anymore and i like went in there like
playing the song for people live thinking they would like think it was absurd. And they were just like, this is great.
Yeah.
I was like, don't you think Jimmy Buffett would record this?
And they were like, yes, of course he would.
That's pretty.
That's a pretty song.
No one said pretty, but they were all drunk.
They had just seen Jimmy Buffett, and they were like, yeah, he would like that song.
I was like, oh, yeah, what am I doing here?
This was not the calculation.
I was not correct in my calculation
well I'll tell you what you're not doing
is writing a song like that a week
getting your ass on tour
playing the
there's artists if you don't know this
where they play almost exclusively
is in the parking lots of
Jimmy Buffet concerts
I don't think I knew that
there's enough of the tailgate culture
that you can like,
yeah, my thing,
and they do songs
that just reference Jimmy.
Getting to the Jimmy show
in Fort Worth tonight.
So that's like the Parrothead
equivalent of Patreon.
I guess so.
You play the parking lots
and you build up.
To some degree, yeah.
I mean, there's a documentary.
Yeah, Parrotreon. There's a parotrion.
He'd do himself well.
Jimmy should.
We should copyright that and see if we can get Jimmy to pay us for it.
I'll take some money.
5% to Jimmy, 5% to Visa.
Five, 15.
15.
I don't know.
Five's not enough.
Yeah, that's the Parrot Heads documentary, right?
You get a lot of that.
Trop Rock.
You get a lot of that. rock you get a lot of uh
of that by the way are you going on the beach boys cruise in march
joe piscopo is on it oh my god uh covet 19 is on it
uh so so let's see here oh my notes are just what were you what were you looking up songs
yeah songs um uh if you can't, Don't Growl, which I believe
is cut. Jason, can you confirm
this? Because I've gotten myself all mixed up here.
Yeah, that
was moved. No, that's in the show.
Moved to where Fractured Folk Song was.
Okay, and
then Jason, can you play the jug really quick?
Jason, play the jug real quick.
I'm so scared about shattering this jug.
Excellent.
I think a little more of this
even since we heard it last.
Great.
Okay.
All right.
So back to Mike's phone.
Yeah.
So this song,
this is another one where you're like,
this is a crazy song about
a guy flirting with a woman,
but he's not allowed to hook up with her
because he's married.
So she basically tells him,
if you can't bite don't
growl i genuinely am lost and don't remember if this is a country bear song or if this is a uh
little jimmy timbers or zach brown i don't here get me back to reality this is tommy collins
okay this is not an original country this is a a different, this is an old recording artist.
But this is a Tommy Collins song
that's in the Country Bear Jam.
Yes.
Okay, got it.
He recorded it
and he wrote it as well.
And yeah, it is.
And who sings this song
in the Country Bear Show?
It is Ernest, Ernest
in the Five Bear Rugs.
We haven't even talked about Ernest.
Okay, wait.
No, Ernest isn't a bear rug, is he?
No, he's not.
No, no.
He's with the Five Bear Rugs. Okay. Oh, they back him up. So who's Ernest? Okay, so Ernest isn't a bear rug, is he? No, he's not. No, no. He's with the five bear rugs.
Okay.
They back him up.
So who's Ernest?
Okay, so Ernest this.
I like this energy we have right now.
Plays the fiddle.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He wears the derby and a polka dot bow tie.
Oh, yes, I looked him up.
I wrote the, my note here says, Ernest plays the fiddle.
He is fancy.
Yes.
Great, yes.
He doesn't have a dickie.
He has like a.
Well, no, it is a dickie.
Well, it's a little bow tie.
I mean, there's a bow tie in the picture I'm looking at here.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it is a little like collar.
He just has sort of as a white collar and a little like pink bow tie and bowler hat.
Okay.
I like Ernest a lot.
I do too.
Do you, you guys don't have the art in front of you.
This thing?
It's fantastic work.
But I, am I?
Who's who in this art?
Wait, who's playing the banjo in the show?
That's not.
Do we have a fiddle player?
I believe that Jason is a bear rug.
I think you two are both bear rugs.
And I'm a sleepy looking guy.
Am I Wendell, perhaps?
Oh, maybe you're saying saying are you golden kind of brown
golden brown um i no no i'm dark brown okay well one of them did change fur colors uh during the
refurbishment i i oh interesting don't have that maybe i am a bear rug um somebody tell me who i
am yeah this art by the way if you get and
we'll post this you can look at it high res um but it's it's really wonderful in that um i'm holding
a glass of white wine mike has uh moonshine one of the x's is crossed off on the on the xxx and
i wonder if that is a nod to your dislike of bodiness. I think that is a really dry joke on Tona's part.
That's good, yeah.
You're not okay with triple X,
and there is a crazy straw and an umbrella
coming out of the top of the chair.
I mean, that's great detail.
And then yours,
Jay's hanging off of the guitar
is a parsley-eaten donut.
A parsley-eaten, I want to say churro,
unless it's a sausage.
Either would apply.
And then there's a
little mr tato up on the top oh yeah um truly the finest art uh yeah real great check it out
and new new merch will be available with uh that art um yeah so so tommy collins uh that's a song
i like uh you know what is a legit good song too
How Long Will My Baby Be Gone which is another Buck Owens
song in this show
and who sings that?
I just want to make sure I know
these notes you guys you should see
these notes
it's all on your phone
Terrence thank you
Terrence is also called shaker
you can have two yeah terrence aka shaker yeah i just find that confusing the um one country
bear appearance that i like a lot to jump around a little bit is when they are on the great disney
disneyland sing-along songs video uh and there is a song they do the great outdoors which is in the
summer vacation version oh running
around telling me about this this morning she's like we gotta watch this sing along great great
take great number great use of the country bear walk around suits and like a kind of obscure song
for the for a video that otherwise has grim grin and ghosts and when you wish upon a star and
big ones this is a seasonal attraction-specific song,
and I like that.
But that's the main way.
I had to look up what even, what are they saying?
Because at the beginning, a big chorus of children all goes,
Howdy, it's Rob, Rob.
Sorry, what are they saying?
Watch it again.
Howdy, shaker.
No.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't think you could find
10 children today who all know
Shaker yeah I don't
think that's yeah I don't think so
probably not
so yeah I like that song I think that song
is good Shaker is that he has kind of
a kind of a quiver it's
kind of a sort of not like
he's not Elvis Shaker is not Elvis
over lips is Elvis
but he's sort of he's tall's not Elvis. Shaker is not Elvis. Shaker is not Elvis. Overlips is Elvis.
But he's sort of, he's tall and he sings kind of sad songs.
Yeah.
And it's very, How Long Will My Baby, just a little snippet of it.
But I think that's a nice song.
A pretty song as well.
I would say it's pretty.
There's a real earnestness when you say this.
Yeah. And there's another pretty one.
Yeah.
I'm an earnest guy. What else is pretty in this show uh let me look here i mean
like um we said heart we did all we could is pretty uh i don't think the five bear rugs
introductory song no i would say it's not pretty i don't think that's the attempt that's not what
they're going for though uh yeah exactly um i don't know I think that's hit with the ones I think are pretty.
Is what Teddy Bear swings?
That's what I said.
Hard We Did All We Could.
Yeah.
That's the pretty one.
Yeah, which is a Wanda Jackson song.
She sung that.
Okay.
She is, and I say this recently, she did the Jack White album, but that's probably like
eight years ago.
Person who might enjoy the Country Bears.
Jack White would love the Country Bears.
Third Man Records, does it have an animatronic show? Oh, man, it should.
At the performance space? Yes.
Where they put out the
seven inches or the singles?
Isn't there like a, yeah, like you make your own vinyl?
Is that like a little booth or something?
You can make your own vinyl.
Invite the Country Bears for a residency. They have nowhere to go.
Yeah.
Disney will be eating their hat if they show up in Nashville.
If they have a permanent.
Right.
They're all there.
Or.
Perpetually installed in third man.
I say like, you know, because Jack White did the Wanda Jackson album.
But then before that, I think he did.
For sure.
He did the Loretta Lynn album.
So he has an appreciation for the classics.
With slow gin fits. Yeah. loretta lynn album um so he has an appreciation for the classics with slow jen fits yeah so he
should uh he should produce the country bears that's what i was getting at produce make some
new yeah this is all right yeah this is what they need they need their rick rubin johnny cash
exactly new relevant music yeah well the johnny cash went a little bit of a bummer because to me
it's not suggest they're dying but uh i guess he's where he doesn't work with all dying country bears three yeah yeah
yeah well i mean of course i don't want to uh say anything dour but if the country bears learned if
any of them learn that they're not long for this world they gotta make their way to nashville if big al did hurt during one of these
shows the roof would go off the building big al i think you could absolutely switch it to that
yes yeah would it seem insensitive or something
i hurt my self today well i i think we have more bears to talk about but since we brought up big I hurt myself today.
Well, I think we have more bears to talk about,
but since we brought up Big Al and... Let's talk Big Al.
Sure, yeah.
I think a lot of people's favorite.
Everyone loves Big Al.
People laugh.
People are excited when Big Al comes out.
Big Al's track is unique
in that it's pretty much just a Tex Ritter album track.
Yes.
See, it's like-
His is not an original, at least the first time around, it was not.
I found that interesting that this weird, funny, depressing song he sings that brings
down the room, that that is not a Disney invention at all.
That's full Tex Ritter.
No.
And it, okay, a couple weird things about this.
This is another thing that i think i
unlearned unlearned relearned in the last week text writer the the father of john ritter yeah
from television yeah uh they seem like that seems like completely different eras and types of pop
culture it's really weird yeah they're linked and that his his uh he i don't believe he wrote blood on
the saddle um uh everett cheatham is the name i have uh as writing uh blood on the saddle but
blood on the saddle the uh text reader album came out in 1960 here is a cover of it it's a fun painted cover this show opens 1971 that isn't that long of time
that is like if they opened a show now and one animatronic towards the end just did chicken
fried or just did red solo right right right right like that is why it's modern yeah yeah
because you don't you think of all these songs at the time being like 50 years old, but that's not the case. No.
Yeah.
Blood on the Saddle.
I mean, I don't have a clip, but maybe we should just perform it to the best of our ability.
Yeah.
Blood on the Saddle.
Boom.
Blood all around.
And this is the funniest thing in the show
I think the sun bonnets is the funniest thing
oh that's fair
but this is almost
but it's so funny that he's such a depressed looking bear
and he sings just this like
miserable dark song done in the most minimal the way those notes
bend down which i guess is the original track but what a well-chosen track it's just very funny that
he um sticks to his guns he he sees what everyone else does for the jamboree and he says no i'm gonna bring a different
flavor to this i have to be true to myself yeah i have to represent myself like any you'd be told
to do on american idol or the voice or anything he can't be he can't do happy songs that's not
who big al is yeah and they're like kind they're embarrassed by him they're embarrassed by the choice wasn't the show
is a kind of self-referential like that song that is not cut about um beating little buford
after that henry goes henry goes uh yeah exactly henry goes like uh we only have high class stuff
on this show folks uh but they want big l off the stage they want him to stop so they're like
really just like
this is not what we thought you were gonna do that's what i how i read it at least well i i
think he does his song and then they go into the ballad of davy crockett and then he brings it back
he interrupts that and to kind of uh overpower him they go into old old slew foot uh which i think is a very jaunty song uh there's a
recording by an act called jim and jesse from 1976 uh on a television program doing it i you know
what you're right and but i for whatever reason i always in my mind i was reading it like he was
he had to end it early and he wanted to come back to finish it.
Oh, interesting.
But maybe he was just.
Like, you didn't give me my time.
Yeah, maybe that's not right.
For some reason, that's how I interpreted it,
but that's probably not right.
You're going to have to shut off the goddamn lights to get me to leave.
Over my dead body.
Al said, fuck you.
I have the text reader version, and there are more lyrics after blood on this apple what keeps happening sure because that's we should say blood on the
set even that you're in a theme park it strikes me and i think a lot of people in that audience
funny every time that you're hearing a song about blood i don't think they would do this
from the ground up today no there's no way yeah we paid for a new show where people sing about blood.
Yeah.
I mean, I think there is transgressive stuff
that you can get away with in country music.
And I think that's why it's still in the park.
Bring it closer, yeah. Blood on the saddle
And blood all around
And a great big puddle Is that what's in the show?
Or is...
This is not an anxious person on the show. All covered with gold.
And he never will ride
any Broncos no more.
Like if I'm reading blood on the side.
He's not going to ride any Broncos no more?
The next line is, Oh pity the cowboy all bloody and red for the Bronco fell on him Like if I'm reading Blood on the Saddle. I'm not going to ride any Broncos no more.
The next line is, oh, pity the cowboy, all bloody and red,
for the Bronco fell on him and bashed in his head.
Whoa.
There was blood on the saddle and blood all around and a great big puddle of blood on the ground.
So, yeah, it's good.
That's what, yeah, when we saw the show after so many years,
I was like, whoa, this is wild.
Wow. This is wild that this still
exists here that's it that gets a little more serious it's like it almost it reads as a comedy
song completely right right right when you get into details of how this guy's head was bashed
right um so it's a dark show sometimes some ways but you know these performers live rough and tumble lives yeah sure again al is
speaking his truth that's right this is something he saw this was a bear he knew yeah or he's just
a really great interpreter of song he's really feeling well he's absolutely that well yes you're
right for sure he's gonna nail her i feel like you could give him a like adele you do hello in that
style i people guitar for one of those nights where you have to pay extra money to go into
disney world or disney i guess disney world they should just fucking have them sing adele
people would lose their minds yeah go and you want to see they're gonna do adele and people
would pay money for that we'll need to sound alike off stage tex ritter a long dead well sure i know tex ritter did not
show up at every performance oh if only if i sync it up but like a success again a successful
singer in his own right and so did that just put his song mean, they think seems like it's a little deeper,
a little gravelier in the show, but it's so close.
Yeah, they didn't change that at all or barely at all, I should say.
So, yeah, I would imagine, yeah, he's number one.
I'm trying to think because Big Al, the merchandise in Tokyo,
because Tokyo still has Country Bear merchandise.
Yeah.
At least was when I was there. And they have henry they have a stuffed plush of henry they have swinging teddy
bear they have the sun bonnets um but i don't remember did they have big al or not i don't know
i mean those are probably the main most popular characters but there's a very cute trio of stuffed
sun bonnets and we should talk about the sun bonnets and and the
song they uh sing well that's maybe yeah that i think if you're trying to do a weird trip to
to disney world or to you know i guess tokyo too if you're trying to like all right i know what the
big rides are i know what big thunder andaceman is. Show me weird stuff.
I think, like, you know, your list would include Carousel of Progress with its weird 1994 Locked in Time sequence.
And it would certainly include this for Blood on the Saddle. I think maybe this moment is one of the weirdest things you can see in the Magic Kingdom.
Well, there's a lot of stuff going on.
For one, there's still a slideshow.
There's still a 1970s era slideshow oh yeah that there's a slideshow at all i guess it very much dates it but that's you know one thing i like about all of these versions is uh seeing them
represent that in slides they're still drawings they aren't they don't look like robots right in
the different medium of slides they are
drawings they're mark davis-y kind of drawings also i think uh for the song all the guys that
turn me on turn me down i feel like turn me on used to be a little more chaste or generic like
yeah i think you're right so in the, that has aged a little bit more aggressively.
Yeah, now turn on is full on horny.
Like, ooh, it's a turn on.
I think that is right.
So yeah, when that song was written,
it wasn't quite as aggressive as it sounds now.
Turn me on is like mentally, like make me perk up.
Yeah, I mean, it is a horny song,
but it is not meant to be as aggressive
as it sounds in the parlance of our time in the language of now. That's what it is not yeah meant to be as aggressive as it sounds in our the parlance of our time
in the language of that's what it is it's aggressive this is aggressive sexuality coming
from the sun bonnet trio that's right yeah so it's hard it's jarring at first and it might take
you five six viewings to not have it feel so aggressive i just yeah be prepared a nice like a a different tone than um uh heart we did all that
we could and tears uh will be the chaser to my want those are both pretty sad ballots from the
the female coded bears this one's kind of sad too because they're gonna turn down i think all
the females nobody's like having a lot of luck in general yeah i mean a lot of the bears are
singing sad songs even some of the jauntier ones if you listen lyrics are sadder yeah like how long my
baby be gone that's very that's a sad one um but yeah yeah there's these are all pretty sad
and this one yeah this is so if in case you don't know again listen to this probably before like go
to youtube and find this look up up Sun Bonnet Trio.
And they do a song called All the Guys That Turn Me On, Turn Me Down.
And they're just upset that they can't get one of these gentleman bears to give them the time of day. I guess so.
They're all missing it.
In the original version of this show, there's banter.
Trixie is like flirting with Henry.
Well, no.
She still flirts with Henry.
Yeah, that thing if I had a ladder. Yeah, yeah. That's the one there. No, that's Teddy Bear. Oh with Henry. Yeah, that thing of if I had a ladder.
Yeah, yeah.
No, that's Teddy Bear.
Oh, okay.
Oh, Trixie.
Trixie flirts with Henry
in the uncut version.
Yes, and there's...
And then later in the show,
he's like,
oh, if I had a ladder,
I'll be up as soon
as I can find a ladder.
Trixie.
That's kind of sad
because like,
although all the mounted heads,
that's kind of sad
because she doesn't have a ladder. Because he doesn't have a ladder? of sad because he doesn't have a ladder
because he doesn't have a ladder no no i mean that trixie wants henry but henry wants swig and
teddy bear oh i see although the mounted moose heads are very taken with trixie the the moose
and the buck and the yeah the other one yeah um but they don't have bodies so what are they
gonna do good kiss it's all sad yeah you can do mouth stuff yeah to do? They could kiss. It's all sad. Yeah, you can do mouth stuff.
Yeah, you're right.
You could kiss.
Let's give people what they want to see. Show Trixie the bear kissing all of the mounted heads.
That's for Disney+.
That's a Disney Plus show.
It's just no story.
It's just kissing.
The sun bonnet trio, Bunny, Bubbles, and Beulah, they are tiny bears.
And they're wearing bonnets.
Short bears.
They feel young, probably, from the way that they dress.
From the bonnets and the blue skirts.
That's what's crazy, because they look like babies.
They look like children.
Yeah.
And I've confirmed, there's a blurb that was on one of these wikis.
The sun bonnets are the babies of the country bear jamboree.
They begin singing in public school in Clint, Texas, in Miss Grizzly's class.
Clint Tech.
We know the town that the sun bonnet.
I found it.
Yeah.
From there, they appear five weeks running on major bears amateur hour and were booked into Walt Disney World.
Backstage, they study their lessons in their
spare time they are knitting a scarf for big albert which they hope to have finished for christmas
three years from now is there there's is there this level of detailed backstory for every country
bear like if you were to i think it depends because i honestly i had to look a couple places
to find this and then this is another thing we've we've run into where i think even with haunted mansion where you're like it's canon
according to like a comic that was written but i don't know if it's technically like disney canon
like like disney proper i don't know what they consider official yeah because i walked through
a gift shop and they had the disney game of life, the board game life.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And Big Al is on that.
And he looks so, like, happy and very healthy and funny.
And I'm like, well, is that canon?
Like, he looks like a totally different character.
No, it should be canon that he's unhappy.
He should look like shit.
He should be, like, a little cutesy.
Yeah.
But, yeah yeah so these these
like i guess okay bears live to be i look this up 25 years old okay okay so if they're students
i mean what they could be five to ten i'm just trying to retcon this to be not so bizarre
uh so you know i'm sure it's not i'm sure they did their this is a public show they're not going
to do anything that anybody's gonna get in trouble for yes you're right these are they're of bare age
now we don't know what bare age is and i don't want to go saying it but this is yes this is just
guessing this is high school this is you know high school feeling of crushes and not being
reciprocated that's all this is yeah yeah um but it's funny this isn't
pornographic folks i didn't say that i'm just saying this is just no what henry wants to do
with that ladder that's pornographic that's disgusting henry goes like henry makes like a
like a he's smelling a stew or something he makes like that type of a satisfied noise after he goes like I'll be right up like a real
that's aggressive
they make some growly bear like
they all make some grunts and stuff
it's a disturbing sound
he is horny yeah that's
for sure can I call
just wait to get the sounds of the episode
going can we get a quick jug and then I want
to hear your that sound
in response to the jugging
now that's an appropriate use of that kind of sound approval of great jug music it's not to
be used in lewd settings that's good that's proper that's nice and proper um so yeah so this song
not not this is not original either uh the guys oh really on well there you go too they don't
even know what they're singing about that's the other thing uh so they can't be held responsible
can't be held responsible somebody i don't know maybe they're not being protected here maybe uh
you know henry shoved these lyrics in their hands.
They go, sure, we just want to be part of the show.
Right.
And they aren't even aware of the potential, what you could infer from it.
Uh-huh.
This was written by Plot and Powell.
Those are the last names of the songwriters.
Is it men?
I'm not sure, actually.
There wasn't... I'll look into that.
That'll be coming up in another episode.
Well, is this...
What I'm worried about is that, like, you know, suggestive lyrics are being put in front
of these young singers.
And is the Sunbonnet Trio a Britney situation?
A conservatorship?
It's possible that they're...
Yeah.
Are they in some...
Is Henry in charge of the conservatorship? and do they need to be freed from it?
That's a good question.
That's something to look into.
We could look for it.
Well, when we go through the Christmas, or if we go through the Christmas and summer show, if we can look for clues there as well to see what's going on.
Whatever we can do.
If we need to start a separate podcast about that to get the sun bonnets freed,
then we'll do what we can.
We'll do what we can.
As it stands, let's just read these lyrics.
Every time I meet a guy who gets me shook,
all I ever get from him is a dirty look.
It's the same way everywhere I've found.
All the guys that turn me on turn me down.
All the guys that turn me on turn me down. Nothing All the guys that turn me on, turn me down.
Nothing works for me, I've found.
The same way everywhere I see, nothing ever seems to work for me.
Doodle doodle do, bum bum.
Doodle doodle do, bum bum.
I think the three-part harmony is very pretty on this.
I'll say that.
It's pretty.
I think it's pretty, yeah.
There's a gag in one of the slides where
she's like waving a handkerchief at a guy and in the next one he's like walking on top of the
handkerchief which is such a bird it i i don't know if there's a reference to that old thing
where it's like oh you lay your coat down in case there's a puddle but it was just like he's just
trampling on the handkerchief well this is where like i know
i don't have that image in front of me i don't have copies of these uh slides i wish i did but
the you know how handsome is that bear how good looking is this bear that he can thumb his that's
true his snoot at at all three of the sun bonnets well who i mean yeah i don't know what the standard is for uh male bear beauty
yes henry the most attractive his big owl his his he is he his big like he's all set for hibernating
is he the most attractive right because he's gonna survive survive through winter i see well let's
we should all make our we again we don't have a meter of, of bear attractiveness,
but just going off of, going off of your gut, if you get some of the pictures in front of
it, who do you think is the most handsome bear?
Which bear can get it?
Which, there you go.
Which country bear can get it?
I, I think that, um, Gomer is kind of quietly handsome.
Like, there's nothing, you know, he doesn't have, like, the, you know, he's well-dressed.
He doesn't have, like, kind of the goofy smile or the odd lips.
I think he's just, like, solid and putting his head down, and he's an artist.
And, you know, I'd like to get in his head learn his uh um you know what
makes him tick his piano theory what made him passionate about music sure he's not a showboat
so i'm i'm gonna say gomer can get it okay jason do you know um i mean swinging teddy bear is a
knockout you know the confidence alone i think we can all agree. I'm just talking male. You're talking about males. We can cover that territory separately.
I think part of the humor of Liverliff's McGrawl is him going,
my woman ain't pretty, but she don't swear none.
And he's like, looked like he just got punched in the face.
He says, she ain't pretty, but I ain't too.
Yeah, so at least he's in on it.
Yeah. that's yeah so at least he's in on in on it yeah do we think that he has maybe kind of like a uh
kind of a rock star swag again i was earlier we were saying it's the scruffy hair um i'm sure
does there is there anybody this guy looks i mean is there sort of a mick jagger
or like dylan like dylan's kind of got a weird oh sure yeah he's a little scraggly
but you know a little rough
he's not for your parents you need an entertainer in a nice suit yeah maybe i mean there's a
rebelliousness to him right um i think that's yeah i think you can see what you're saying there
you can say that i think henry though sleepy eyes a little bit uh uh you know do we consider uh
he's he's an interesting, odd-looking fellow,
but is Steve Buscemi attractive in some notable in some way?
I think, look, everyone is attractive on some.
I think everybody has different tastes.
There's not really one standard of beauty.
So, yeah, for Steve Buscemi, a real talented guy, I could see it.
Kind of looks like Steve Buscemi. Really? We're could see it you know so it kind of looks like Steve Buscemi really
we're just talking like who can get it when we say who can get it we're just saying for us
personally I mean Henry I I think that's probably the easy choice but like you like a leader you
like that confidence I like Tennessee Bear a lot yeah I'm a big fan of Tennessee Bear sorry
Tennessee is one of the Bear Rugs he's got the one string bass okay
okay yeah um and he's just he's like uh he's definitely hammered but he's got like uh he's
got a nice grin on his face and uh he seems like he'd be fun to talk to he there's a by him there's
a jug that says do we say this e flat it's a moonshine jug next to him oh like you can uh uh like they have them tuned
differently like the way if you play glasses filled up with different amounts of water that
makes different notes so yeah because yeah there's one that says b flat here too okay so there's
multiple different jugs that have different notes they can perform in different again jason
real musicians jason b flat can we hear a quick B flat?
Quick B flat.
You're lucky to get any letter.
Great.
As opposed to an E.
Could you give me an E?
Yeah.
It was higher.
It was a high E.
You made an octave up, I think.
I'm just realizing this glass jug looks like the sad up jug
that they put the change in that they have to constantly dig into to not take their trip.
Well, if he was, you know, he could look at it half empty and say, that's a trip I'll never get to take with my dead wife.
Or he can look at it half full and say, maybe I could start a jug ban career.
That's true.
Yeah.
Get with it, Carl.
Here's the thing I want to say.
Do we talked about,
maybe we haven't,
I'm forgetting.
Have we talked about Disney on parade?
Hmm.
I,
well,
I don't know.
Cause I don't think I know offhand what it is.
Okay.
I don't know much more than there,
at least there's okay.
So I was looking up sun bonnets and sun bonnets appear as like a trapeze act
in something called Disney on parade.
And this is by far this is not
an episode on jamber week but this is an episode this is an hour-long live disney circus from the
70s i don't know i actually don't know where it was traveling the country thing i don't know i
don't know where i just know there's a special that's recorded there's a scene in it where goofy
where herbie the love bug is trying to run over goofy whoa
and it is wild and then goofy hits herbie on the top of the head and herbie's like has a little
bump that grows and it is bizarre disco bear necessities happen during it mogli like dancing
like crazy during it's it's i it's wild i i found it toward the end of of today before we had to
come here so um okay forgive me the the the name of the toy that's the red goggles where you flip
through and you see different slides view master view master i had a view master of this oh they
took stills from this experience or from the special or something. Yeah, because I like, oh, Disney stuff.
That sounds neat.
And I remember it being so dark and not just in the way it was shot, because it's like a live theatrical presentation in the 70s.
It wasn't very well lit.
But then also like, yeah, Herbie attacking.
Yeah, he hits him.
A real car drives into somebody dressed as goofy
it's like hits him in the butt and he flies forward and there's a whole scene yeah you
know what i'm talking about you've seen this well i i think what i was uh talking about uh was a
different circus themed uh special called epcot's daredevil Circus Spectacular that is from the later 80s
where they set up circus acts in the
middle of World Showcase.
If you want to talk about hat on a hat.
Yeah, so that's different than Disney
on Parade, which is also circus
themed. Circus, like
country music, it was okay.
You could just, anyone could use
it, you know, anyone
could get away with it you mean the
tropes of a circuit or the acts of a circus like it was like a go-to theme for like variety stuff
it was seen as family friendly and widely popular i feel like disneyland 90s circus thing
that was i forget what i'm talking about yeah yeah we're like it was just like circus sack set up on main street right everywhere yeah right right something like that yeah that was that
was like a hail mary like that was like a come to jesus what are we gonna do okay uh circus circus
but sorry the country bears are part of disney on parade yes uh there's just i saw a picture i saw
honestly because i was scrubbing through it i just saw a picture of the sun bonnets hanging.
They were like a trapeze act.
And I don't know if there's multiple.
I don't know.
Maybe there's multiple Disney on parades.
Maybe it was just one I was watching.
I'm not sure.
So it's people in suits of the sun bonnet trio?
I'll find a picture of it.
Are they thinking because female gymnasts are often very tiny, they the like this is they can be as small as
the sun bonnet trio perhaps that's correct oh here we go let's see here uh it is unclear i think these
are not people i think these are like these are i don't know if you can see this these are the
country bears suits people in those but then hanging from the ceiling it looks like it could
possibly just be like dummies
oh okay you really concerned me when you said they aren't people i was picturing some it's a
dog in a suit well or something like you know if you like some country like needed gymnasts
so bad that they like bred a species that are tall smaller and sleeker than a human could ever
be so they could win all the gold medals you bred a
human with a mule they cracked it to get the mule out of its dead end uh yeah so so we got to look
into this because this is a nightmare this whole thing was just scrubbing through it is a nightmare
it was i remember how much it scared me in Viewmaster but I kind of would keep
doing it
it scared me but I needed to process it
it was a good kind of scary
so yeah
Disney on parade
well
what have we missed
besides all the other stuff
we're going to talk about throughout the week
any other moments, numbers, characters what have we missed? I mean, besides all the other stuff we're going to talk about throughout the week,
uh,
um,
I,
any other moments,
numbers,
characters?
Um, yeah,
I'm looking through here.
Uh,
and by the way,
uh,
I,
I,
yeah,
I'm looking at the merch display that I saw in Japan and I think there's no
big L representation,
but there's,
there's a massive,
there's so much merch,
but I think it's sun bonnets
and henry and teddy um all in different sizes and a cute little display of them all together
um trying to remember if i got i think i bought henry i think there's a henry around
some with the raccoon with sammy popping out of his hat so they're covered on the and good for
tokyo again this is so well
positioned in tokyo it seems like a perfect crazy thing to be in japan a weird robot show full of
darkness and sensuality yeah um there's been so many rumors of this thing going away in disney
world um but it has survived up until now but i am more i am still thinking like luckily every like they're
they're so slow at building anything i think we probably have at least 10 more years of it
yeah i mean it was very popular the day i was there it helps that it's adjacent to
pirates of the caribbean splash mountain Mountain. Like, there's so much in the area that you likely need to wait for
or need to do something in between or afterwards.
I just wanted to say real quick, the changes done in 2012,
banter cut down, Fractured Folk Song was the big one that was removed,
Pretty Little Devilish Mary is the name of the other song that was removed and then
if he can't bite don't growl was moved up in the lineup um yeah but you can hear the full
version of the show in that old record that is is you can buy digital copies of now um it's on
spotify too but i think only some of the songs are playable yeah you can't do the full
it used to be on Apple Music you could listen to the whole chunk
too but for some reason that's not on there
anymore I don't know why you can
buy it or it's still on YouTube
somebody ripped it and put it on YouTube
so listen to it yeah there but
I do think
I do think this is unless they come up with
a TV show or movie this thing is gone
within the decade.
And here, I think in Tokyo it'll last.
Sure, yeah.
But it's in a weird spot.
Like you exit in Orlando, you exit into a restaurant.
So like they'd have to like shut that down,
like a pretty busy quick service restaurant.
And you don't get a i feel like you
don't get a lot of room back it's kind of in a busy area i mean yeah florida yeah but that doesn't
mean they're not gonna do they wouldn't do that i mean the rumor was a couple years ago was it was
gonna be a toy story they're gonna turn into a toy story show of some kind some like uh marion
roundup sort of yeah which sounds fun don't get me wrong but yeah but like the idea of losing this that we
love and enjoy for like you just want them both to exist sure yeah if possible so disneyland i
think the what you're saying about how it's an odd space in disney world and how do you really
get it out of there and how much space do you really gain from it again it comes into disneyland
with the two theaters yeah and uh it's not filling
those two theaters pretty quickly i think by the 90s they are discussing how do we get that space
back and do something else with it it just never and maybe there's something to the music of it
too maybe they were right with that calculation that country music's bigger in florida and uh
less so in california just whenever the blockbuster here that they wanted it to be.
Yeah, and it's also,
and I can't remember if I heard Tony Baxter say this
or somebody else say this.
Also, since Disneyland is such a local crowd,
you don't go to a show that's the same often,
as often as tourists would.
Absolutely.
So like if you're,
well, there's a lot more tourists in Florida,
so they're more likely to see that show versus like how often would i be seeing the country bear show
if it was still here i'm sure a couple times a year especially if they were doing the multiple
versions but yeah that's another thing that hurt it especially with two theaters yeah it was what
you were saying before like one theater didn't change a land around to make it themed to that.
Maybe it's still there.
Yeah.
But it's a...
Smaller, more or less of a burden of what it has to support
and the amount of crowd it's supposed to eat up.
So I think, and being that it's such a big building,
they start talking about,
I think this building is big enough to get a ride in um but there are all of these great animatronics can we do something else with them
right leading to a pitch of an attraction called the critter country 500 yeah i'm not aware of this
before this week yeah yeah yeah i've seen this so great uh a couple photos of this. So this would have been,
they had the broader name Critter Country 500
because the area got renamed
when Splash Mountain moved in.
But basically this is a little like race and ride.
They show kids in a car that says Bearcat Racer
and it's made of barrels and wood
and it's falling apart
and there's a weird stove powering
it like great idea for a vehicle um this all feels very knott's berry farm does it yeah
wacky soapbox racers wacky soapbox racers racers or uh berry tales for sure yeah um kind of like
kooky and psychedelic but it's hard to picture them the 90s is like as late as they're gonna
do something this weird and they didn't do it, so they didn't do it at all.
Henry is on the radio calling the ESBN.
Yeah.
The Sports Bear Network.
That's really great.
Sammy the raccoon's in his hat.
He's waving a flag.
Like crazy contraptions being operated. What's the thing where all the hannah barbara characters
race wacky wacky race yeah yeah it seems so much like that in the spirit of that this is a vehicle
with a pig up front goggles like protecting him from the the way this is the most like
clap trap made out of a train engine bizarre it's being operated by two cranks by one of the bears.
Handsome Gomer is driving.
Gomer, who can get it, can also get it on the road.
He's driven.
It's kind of like got a Mad Magazine Sergio Argonis vibe to it.
Oh, very much so.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's, like, fun, chaotic, a lot of details.
This is, is this Liver Lips lips who's just blowing giant overalls
he has a big sail made out of overalls i hadn't meditated on what's actually happening in these
photos they're fantastic yeah um it's being held up by a broom and there's an outhouse that's part
of the car so i don't know if you're racing against the bears you're just kind of it's
you're alongside probably and you know they probably let you win if you're racing against the bears or you're just kind of, it's you're alongside probably. And you know,
they probably let you win because you're a guest you would think,
but this seems like a weird,
like a kooky proto radiator Springs racers that reuses the animatronics,
puts them in a different light.
I mean,
this seems like a great unbuilt attraction.
Oh yeah.
What a dream,
but it didn't happen.
Of course.
No,
they discovered there is a
a critter who needed representation representation on the merch front a bear even a fellow bear who
stabbed other bears in the back the um mounted animal heads are in his ride
that's right yeah kept them yeah yeah no they're staying here they're my prisoners now winnie the
pooh moved in and if you didn't know all this time we were talking about this this this show
was in the space where the winnie the pooh attraction is now in Disneyland. It's hard for me
to hate on Winnie the Pooh at this point. I love Winnie the Pooh growing up. I've started to show
my son Winnie the Pooh. Winnie the Pooh is in my heart recently. I'm excited to take him on that
ride maybe in the near future. But we'll talk about that ride down the road. I like the ride.
Is it worth losing this beloved theme park IP specific for? i don't know if it is because it's a little
off the shelf when you're also talking about broken dreams of the winnie the pooh ride
there was a version of it that was a water ride it was like a little like a rapids and a flume
ride that was tame that kids could do where you're in a honeypot and it's floating
and because you're along the rivers of america so there would have been like a little drop off
of that hill oh wow down into the river for a second and that sounds like a better ride than
what we got which is a little bit of a stock i don't think it's anybody's favorite it's fine
it's not as bad as everybody makes it seem but i always come off all smiles on that. Yeah, but it's still like, okay.
But kind of a lateral,
like I think they thought they had a hit
and maybe short term they did.
But I think now you look back
and you look at Mr. Toad and Country Bears
and you look at Pooh
and it's like crowd wise,
it's a lateral move.
And you look at Tokyo.
And you look at, yeah.
Yeah, they have a better
poo ride and country bears still intact the dream scenario realized yeah uh yeah it's why that i i
think that tokyo park is underrated as a magic kingdom it's a strong magic kingdom yeah for sure
just for those those reasons alone um and what the southern california fan base now is of like i feel like it's yeah nostalgia and i
feel like the people really into it if you get them going they'll go like yeah country can't
believe they got rid of country bears you know sure that'd be i mean there's been many fan uh
requests or fan uh whatever you would call it blue skying of like put the country bears on grizzly
river rapids yeah no idea if that was actually an idea they ever talked about you said i don't know whatever you would call it, blue skying of like, put the country bears on Grizzly River Rapids.
Yeah. No idea if that was actually an idea
they ever talked about. You said the characters
show up around there. Yeah, they hang
out around there. But it's not going to happen now.
Yeah, there's probably no way it happens
now. I don't think the robots exist. I don't think
they're all sitting preserved somewhere.
No, no, no, no. They've decayed
if they were sitting. I saw a thing
that the mechanics for swinging teddy bear eyes are used for poo
and the hot air balloon going up and down.
Yes, I had no idea of that.
That's a pretty clever reuse.
That's cool.
It's a pretty famous fact, as was said, but if you're on the Winnie the Pooh ride,
the mounted heads, Melvin, Buff, and Max, you can see them.
It's right before the honey room and on the way out of Heffalumps and Woozles.
Good thing to pseudo impress somebody that you're with.
I can never see them.
I always try.
I always miss it.
I feel like I'm never sure.
I'm like, is this it?
And I think I look out and get in.
It's a little dark.
It's a little tough to see. I don't know exactly the exactly the spot but i like that i like that they kept them there um and it's
and you gotta know where that it's a particular angle that's a pretty good well a very good disney
easter egg but of course you wish they were around why can't they still be talking in one of those
shops next door right there's no reason they have to be off yeah
keep them alive but they're via whatever 19th century magic was yeah right drawings in the
hungry bear restaurant okay but not a ton of representation there that's right certainly
drawings yeah yeah um so they have this plan we're going to get rid of this, gut the Country Bear Theater,
turn it into Winnie the Pooh.
Country Bear Jamboree's last day of operation in Disneyland,
September 9th, 2001.
What did they know?
What did they know?
We got to get out of town.
We got to get out of town.
This shit's going to hit the fan in the cities.
We're going to head back to the holler.
That's Bob Iger resigning like a week before COVID started.
That's like if you end, that's not it.
A little fishy.
Look it up, folks.
It's like a week before everything shuts down.
Bob Iger's like, I'm out.
Hey, Zeke and Zev, we still got that underground bomb shelter?
Yeah, who kept them off?
Out by Clint, Texas?
Hey, Tennessee Bear, you're getting a call
from langley virginia you know anything about that we're not telling we know even if we do
know something we ain't telling some weird signups for flight school i've been reading about bush
white house's call are you getting a call from the switchboard of Bush Whitehouse?
Scooter Libby was one of the bears,
right? Yeah, Scooter Libby.
George W. used to jam with us.
He goes way back.
We haven't seen Big Al in a while, but he was muttering about jet fuel not melting steel beams
on his way out. We didn't know what that meant.
We jam with John Huntsman
and Mike Huckabee, too.
We get a whole thing going here.
I'm telling you, September 2001, shit's going to hit the fan.
The twin theaters are going to go down.
Oh, God.
Our two theater.
We got two theaters for the Jamboree.
It happened.
It happened.
Also, a weird, like, you think of Disney as like a real corporate synergy,
like divisions knowing what others are doing,
sometimes not knowing what they're doing.
But the movie was, everyone knew the movie was coming in 2002.
You'd think they would have given the theater another year to like.
Just what, yeah.
How does it hurt them to keep it around, to plug?
And this is not, now they're trying to get as much IP out of the parks as they can.
And there's a billion other ways to promote things.
But like this is at this point in time,
the first or second major movie made out of a theme park attraction.
Do you not want to keep said attraction open with a sign at the end that
says,
if you liked this,
maybe you'll like the movie.
Now that would have been a lie.
They probably wouldn't have liked the movie.
We'll find out soon enough.
Yeah.
You would think that would have made sense, but no.
Yeah, I guess no one was paying attention.
I don't know.
So strange.
And as this movie comes out and just flounders, just eats it,
just did not do well at all do you not think well you know
i have an idea there's a place that we own that thousands people go through every day yeah maybe
we could keep our living advertisement for this movie there was there anything in florida do we
know was there any sort of ad for i mean well, maybe if we talk about the movie, we'll look into that.
Because I'm wondering, is there a flyer outside?
I think it's also interesting, just in the sense of, I think Country Bears is like Pirates
or Haunted Mansion or Space Mountain, where it becomes a shorthand for either Disney World,
Disneyland, or theme parks at large.
Yeah.
I feel like there's a lot of reference in the popular uh popular consciousness popular culture to this uh attraction so to like shut it down it does feel
yeah i think like to a person who doesn't have theme parks memorized uh to a john lennon who
probably didn't go terribly often right if i think your vague sense of like what's disney world well
there's a castle and there's teacups and there's the what's disney world well there's a castle and
there's teacups and there's the country bear jamboree there's a thing where a bunch of bears
sing songs it does oddly feels like a disney tent pole even if it hasn't been treated as such
and uh yeah maybe isn't to a lot of people i feel like there was a point in time where it was. Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, Country Bears,
Pirates. I even think like
phrases that people like to
jump out at you.
Nobody would call it the Autopia.
Nobody uses the real term Mad
Tea Party. But I think the phrases
Pirates of the Caribbean and
Country Bear Jamboree are so weird.
They like stick with people.
They're a wimp even if they don't care. I would think actually if you were polling people, more people would know Country Bear Jamboree are so weird. They like stick with people. Yeah. Even if they don't care.
I would think actually if you were polling people, more people would know Country Bear
Jamboree than Tiki Room.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe so.
And yet, you know what is weird about it?
I was going to bring this up.
I don't know that there's like the hit single.
You know what I mean?
You know the Tiki Room song.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
And you know Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow.
Granted, that's the only song in the thing but like yeah these songs are all good but there isn't
the one well davy crockett but that was a hit on it so that was that was a huge hit before yeah
yeah but there's not like here's the i would maybe say great outdoors maybe but it was only
in the seasonal one i think that hurts it a little bit, too, that there isn't the small world perfect earworm.
You probably are right with that.
There is something to that, I think.
Songs are all good, again, but there's not great, I would say.
But you're right.
It's missing its hit.
People, families did not come out of the park.
They drove in from Arizona, and on their way back home, they're all singing, blood on the
saddle.
Yeah, that's true true that's a very good
point that i think is right when i had uh not been there in a while then went back around the time
you did mike um i thought the transition from the davy crockett song to old slew foot is pretty
smooth uh like i thought like wait is this a verse of the davy crockett song yes i agree i
thought that too yeah because it's just so uh so like slick the way those two transition and then
blood on the saddle also still going in the background like pairs pairs with all of those
kind of get meshed together in a big finale i also just like to encourage the future use of Old Slewfoot as a nickname for Jason Sheridan.
I did.
There is a term.
I did look up the meaning of that.
Old Slewfoot.
Oh, God.
Treat lover who gets exhausted
walking through theme parks readily.
Oh, yeah.
Having big, clumsy, or turned out feet.
Well, I have been told my feet tilt a little.
I'm trying to correct that.
Oh, sure.
Oh, mine do too, actually.
I had casts when I was a child.
I guess I'm the slew foot.
Oh, my sister had casts too.
And hard saddle shoes connected like a piece of metal.
I hope there was never blood on the saddle.
Blood all around.
I don't want the saddle shoes.
Blood on the saddle shoes.
She kicked me with them.
Yes, my blood.
One thing also to say in terms of where,
how the country bears are represented in the parks to this day,
Oogie Boogie in Haunted holiday is big al right yeah he was de-skinned yeah his organs were removed and he was turned he was honestly
a large ghost on his driver's license though he was a donor so it's okay
i i would do it we gotta do it would love to see Oogie Boogie program to say that
puddle like I always love
that delivery of puddle
puddle
yeah
so I would be interested I'm sure there's plenty of like
like parts
because they just sub out
parts of animatronics all the time
from my understanding
you could have like Zeb's shoulder is fine somewhere is in millard fillmore yeah presidents they're like oh shit we
need a oh yeah just take it out of zeb like poor zeb is like half half like not even there half
missing it's really depressing probably we were yeah jane and i were talking about that we were in florida
of like what is preserved what is safe because i saw pictures from that destination d23 event
they did recently and they had the dream finder like machine yeah and and we're always trying to
figure out what was demolished what was uh you know stripped for parts and what was just you know
i was thinking about how
annoying that actually is to me i love seeing that dream finder thing but it's such bullshit
that they just bring that stuff out at conventions they're like hey remember this yeah we do this at
any time anytime we just put it back in the ride but we're not we're just gonna put it in a fucking
showroom enjoy it here we know by the way we know you want it like this is the thing with d23 and anytime
they trot all this stuff out we know you want this yeah but this is all you're getting we know
the dream finder is from a park that is mostly construction walls right now but we know that we
have gutted his ride to turn it into the worst ride that exists, perhaps on the planet. We know.
We know it.
But the good news is we are now selling T-shirts that look like the construction walls.
So pretty good.
It's got the stripes.
People are going to be nostalgic for them someday.
They're going to miss the stripes on the walls.
They're going to be nostalgic for something.
So yeah, they know.
That's what's annoying to me, that they know.
And that's why, yeah, look,
Gomer's foot shouldn't just be turned into Andrew Carnegie's right elbow
in American Adventure.
Yeah.
These are not interchangeable.
Right.
These are perfect characters who sing pretty songs catchy songs honest songs
songs about their experiences yeah about all the blood they've seen and all the moonshine they've
drank yes this is this is one of the most honest raw pieces of theme park entertainment that exists
and if and if yeah and if look it sucks but if you need, if they to exist, they need to sing Fancy Like and Red Solo Cup.
That should be the case.
They should do that.
I'm fine with them.
It's on you to keep your eyes on the country contemporary charts.
Yes.
And get ready to have some goofy voiced guys sing it with an occasionally changed words into bear.
Yeah.
Zeke or somebody or Henry singing like like uh the lyrics of chicken fried about
a cold beer on a friday night and the touch of a pair of jeans that fit a pair of jeans that
fit just right in the touch of a precious child all the things that the character that zach brown
loves that he says in that song chicken fried we definitely spent some time examining like what
does he mean the touch of a precious child of a precious child
it's just such an odd for it not that there's anything untoward just that it's like that's
such an odd thing well here's what i i 10 years ago at my friend's wedding it's just i was i was
making fun of that song and she's like oh i like that song i go but let's let's listen to the
lyrics without the words and i started i just said them to i go doesn't that sound like if you were
on a date with a guy and he was like,
you know what, one of my favorite things
is the touch of a precious child.
You'd be like, oh God.
And she's like, yeah, you're right.
It's like, I do agree that's a weird lyric
out of context.
Extremely creepy.
Okay, so maybe don't do that one.
Fine.
Look, I'm just Googling country songs.
Do I was on a boat that day by Old Dominion.
Fantastic. I see the thumbnail on Vivo. They're all on a Boat That Day by Old Dominion. Fantastic.
I see the thumbnail on Vevo.
They're all on a boat.
There's five of them, just like the Bear Rugs.
The parts are already divvied up. You just have to make one part for a single string bass
and turn one guitar into a jug.
Stop being lazy.
The songs you need are there.
They're on the album Time, Tequila, and Therapy
by Old Dominion.
Just get busy verifying
it you lazy imagineers oh yeah it's their light up lake nona with this call it's easy just get
them you know you know who's bored and not doing anything is that rockafire creep get him on it
wait no don't no no all right well ask him if he knows a less creepy animatronic guy.
And, yeah, steal a phone number.
If the Rock of Fire explosion could be reprogrammed so easily for too many music videos,
then why not do it with the country bears?
Yeah.
Get one song past the year 1980 into that thing,
and maybe you'll start packing the crowds in again yeah um well the
only thing that we can do is keep the country bears relevant and you know what's a good way
to do that is by having america's hottest theme park podcast the one is that that's true though
right yeah that's right hottest i i well I can't think of anything that would...
Hot's a pretty specific word.
It's a narrow category, so why not put ourselves as kings of that hell?
Podcast the Ride is no longer hot.
That's where he lost my vote.
Yeah.
When he called out our podcast.
You can go after Grayson Carter, whatever the hell his name is, all day.
You don't come after us.
Say what you want about Ben Midler.
Grayson Carter.
We breathe our souls into this very hot theme park podcast.
And what we're going to do all week long is keep the country bears relevant.
And I think after what we do with this week, I think it might be a different story. I think 2022
is going to look very different for these
50-year-old bears, because
if you didn't get enough out
of this, what amount of time
episode? Almost 250.
Jesus, really? Yeah.
You didn't know?
Okay, well,
and let's not wrap this thing up forever.
Wow. Okay, so if that didn't give you
your fill of the country bears then the week certainly will we're not done we got more can
you believe it so you survived day one of country bear jammer week i'm really questioning what are
we doing yeah i don't know it's a little it's a little silly i'll say that
was that it's nearly three hours enough hell no no we got vacation overlays to talk about
we got feature films to talk about there's all kinds of odd manifestations of this attraction
and we're going to keep going we're going to keep deep diving so you survived night one uh stay
tuned we'll be we haven't said this in a long time. We'll be back tomorrow.
Oh, yeah. Back tomorrow with
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you have no excuse but to only absorb content from us in the next week or so.
This is your whole holiday break, folks.
Really.
Unless you're doing it daily.
Yeah, yeah.
You could.
But we all say, I think we're loading you.
This is how we're ending the year.
So we're loading you up with goodies to take home with you.
Yes.
To your holler.
What are you going to do?
Watch a Red Notice?
Come on.
Come on.
Everyone in America already has.
We've already all watched it.
70 million.
We're all embroiled in the tale of Cleopatra's eggs.
Finding Cleopatra's eggs.
Which is the most popular movie of the decade is about. Is that what it is?
Does she lay eggs?
Yeah, yeah.
It's about finding.
I don't know.
It's in the trailer.
But she lays eggs?
Cleopatra lays eggs in this movie?
Watch the trailer.
The Rock says Cleopatra's eggs. They've stolen two. Cleopatra lays eggs in this movie? In the trailer, The Rock says,
Cleopatra's eggs. They've stolen two of Cleopatra's eggs.
Fabric, like the decorative eggs.
Fabergé, that's the word I was looking for.
Not her leg, eggs from her
ovaries.
In this movie's universe, Cleopatra
lays eggs.
This movie supposes
human beings laid eggs.
You could have frozen her.
In previous centuries.
Well, that's how you bring country bears back.
Just in the opening of the show, he's like, well, we got to do a little show for you while
we wait for our eggs to hatch.
Just everyone just has questions about, wait, why do the bears lay eggs in this show?
So the premise is they play bluegrass music, but also they lay eggs.
So they're freak bears in multiple regards.
All right.
So again, no excuse.
Only content from us.
We're giving you plenty.
We'll be back tomorrow.
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