Podcast: The Ride - Criss Angel's CAblp with Eva Anderson

Episode Date: February 25, 2022

It's the grand finale of Celebruary! Eva Anderson (WeCrashed) finishes out her residency with Criss Angel's "Vegas adjacent" diner CAblp (Criss Angel's breakfast, lunch, and pizza). Grampa's episode ...up at The Second Gate: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, everyone. Looks like we're wrapping up our Celebruary. Can I interest you in anything magic-themed? Okay. How about a restaurant run by a magician that isn't magic-themed, except sometimes when it is? Great. And would you care for that to be an hour outside of Las Vegas?
Starting point is 00:00:22 Excellent choice. Okay. Eva Anderson will be right out with a big plate of Chris Angel's restaurant, Kablip. Happy celebrity. This is podcast. The right. Welcome to the grand finale of Podcast the Ride's celebratory, a month-long celebration of celebrity-owned restaurants.
Starting point is 00:01:01 I'm a legitimately sad Scott Gairdner joined by jason sheridan i'm just i you know i've loved i've loved this month you know if you if you love it set it free you know thankfully the uh confusion will start to override the uh longing and then nostalgia with this episode like this will feel like when you have a really great vacation but then like there's a bunch of travel hassle on the way back and then you're like oh god i'm just glad to be back at home yeah yeah maybe that's where this goes uh mike carlson hi i'm here yes look this has been a wonderful month of saying like different names from the normal names we usually say uh though as i say that bob gerr once We haven't said Bob Gurr once this whole month. We haven't said, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Oh, actually, we've said Robert Earl a lot. A little bit low on bad boys from Boston. Not as much Aerosmith as you normally would say. Yeah, one or two, but, you know, I thought you were going somewhere else. I was going to say, plenty of weird names today. Well, that's, yes, that's fair. I haven't talked about the intimacy of any of these places so there's all these things well again maybe today this is an intimate setting yeah i feel um you might also be well i don't know
Starting point is 00:02:18 listener you might be looking at the title of today's episode and it's not something that you're familiar with this is not some in the past situation this is playing out in real time and we get to talk to somebody who has who has experienced this in the recent past who's part of the story and hey another a sad thing about after this that no longer doing her residency closing out the the residency, but let's have one more good one here. The great Eva Anderson. Oh, guys, I'm so sad, but I'm so happy. Don't cry because it's over. Laugh because it happened?
Starting point is 00:02:57 Absolutely. It's something unpredictable, but in the end, it's right. Oh, yeah. I don't know about that. Well, now that's a reference we use all the time oh no let's drag this one out no more i want this one to never end uh eva thank you for joining us oh my god i think of all of the i think i've said this on many of the celebrity episodes and about celebrity in general it's been long in the works this one in particular i would
Starting point is 00:03:23 say this is a um i don't know it's it's it's been going a while it's been building in the works. This one in particular, I would say, this is a, I don't know. It's been going a while. It's been building a while. There's a rich backstory here. I'm so excited you're talking to us about it. Talking about Kablip. Kablip. It's Kablip.
Starting point is 00:03:37 I guess, yeah, it hasn't been said out loud, right? No. Which kind of answers a question you might have, listener, is when you look at this title, how do you say it? And I don't think, remember how we didn't know for a little bit? I don't think he had ever clarified. It's an awful lot of consonants next to each other. To be fair, we also didn't know how to pronounce Grandpa's Belegante before.
Starting point is 00:04:01 And you still didn't say it right. What was it? Gente, I believe. Oh, God. So embarrassed. I'll edit it out and I'll make it sound like I knew what I was talking about. In May of 2021, we all were introduced to the word kablip. When the press release went out, Chris Angel is opening a restaurant, magician Chris Angel, called Kablip, Chris Angel's breakfast, lunch, and pizza.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Of course. What an intriguing rollout. You look at some confusing consonants. What could that possibly stand for? Maybe if you were a real detective, you would get that C-A is Chris Angel, but how could you possibly guess the rest?
Starting point is 00:04:41 When has this phrase ever been? He invented a new phrase, first of all. Which I like. Breakfast, lunch, and pizza. It's kind of interesting in that pizza is not, you think that we're going through breakfast, lunch, and dinner. We're going through meal times, but instead it ends at pizza. Is pizza like sort of the prestige as far as that phrase is concerned?
Starting point is 00:05:01 I don't know how you, what are the parts of a trick, a magic trick? The prompt, is it the pledge the turn the prestige i mean you expect it to be dinner but it's pizza like this is the turn yeah well you're forgetting the part of the magic trick where really loud corn music plays so maybe it's that um yeah um do you recall taking a stab as to what it how it would be pronounced before we were educated that it was kablip oh definitely because we only saw it in print right until he actually recorded himself saying it which was months later yeah yeah yeah it was only announced in print form i feel like i would have guessed like cablip cablip or cabliple yeah i think we were trying cablip cablip quibi cable p yeah cable p could be all viable um but uh i mean how to even get into this? And why the Criss Angel fascination, I suppose? Like, why was there so much interest in this odd, arbitrary celebrity venture even then?
Starting point is 00:06:19 And I feel like the answer is you've had an ongoing Criss Angel fascination to some extent. Right. answer is you've had an ongoing chris angel fascination uh to some extent right and but there was a a person who got me into chris angel initially yes indeed uh uh that being uh jason walliner who happened to be our guest a few weeks ago for dive back at the the beginning of this glorious month of of celebratory well uh while j Jason was here with us to talk about Dive, we took a little time to discuss his ongoing relationship with Chris Angel. We take you to that conversation now. Okay, we're here in the past with Jason Walliner and Diva Anderson as well. Eva's taking us on a journey through Kablip,
Starting point is 00:07:01 which Jason, I know you were very versed in, but just kind of a setup to everything, because she's credited you as being maybe the person who brought the the wonder and the and the magic of chris angel to kind of this group of people um if there's if there's anything you'd like to talk about in terms of uh your chris angel journey yeah mine was when he first came on the scene i was we were doing videos in new york with uh this as this group human giant me and uh uh paul sheer and aziz ansari and rob hubel and we it was even before it was before we had an mtv show before anything and those guys were obsessed with chris angel and we flew ourselves to vegas uh and oh no I knew we were there doing like something for that show Best Week Ever but we were just running around the strip with those guys in long wigs and
Starting point is 00:07:51 we filmed something called Illusionators that was like a Criss Angel it was like a parody of Criss Angel where everybody was it was it Paul and Aziz were like and they were like and they had like the lisp like him they had a little bit yeah uh and that yeah this is pre the show evas this is like one of the first things you guys did together was chris angel or this was just yeah and it was before youtube and so it was just i guess to show it like a live show at ucb you know in 2005 or 6 or something so it's like 15 to 16 years ago um everything i think i feel like 10 years got added to any amount of time any like covid somehow added not two but 10 years to any number anyway he had that show mind freak and then and we did that and we then we got our we got a show on mtv we did a few of
Starting point is 00:08:39 those and then and then we had gone to see him in vegas at some point and i never i've never met him he met those guys at one point and he was just like i think he was like imitations the sincerest form of flattery like and and then we all kind of fell out of touch and then i was in vegas i guess about five years ago with a group of people and we're like we should just go see the Chris Angel show I remember being nuts and we saw it and it was just way more nuts than it was a totally different show and it was completely crazy and really funny one of the funniest things uh I had ever seen um and uh and then wound up just telling everyone and making people and going back. I think I've gone like four times. And then Eva and I and a few friends, Tom Sharpling and maybe John Daly. Was he there?
Starting point is 00:09:34 Was he there? He left before the fundraiser. He wasn't at the fundraiser. He was at the show that we went. We went back to Vegas to see it. And I got kicked out of that show. It wasn't because I was like screaming laughing uh the whole time it was because there's a segment of the show that's kind of hard to talk about without
Starting point is 00:09:52 um without being insensitive but um there's a segment so uh very very tragically but also um currently not tragically chris has a son named johnny christopher that is dealing with having pediatric cancer and so that is dealing with having pediatric cancer and so that is one of the most important things to Chris and he's done a lot of charity work with it uh and it's very admirable there's a part of the of the show uh that was or and still is in the show mind freak that is like a it's like a 20 minute um thing about pediatric cancer which obviously is very serious but also this segment of the show is one of the craziest things i've ever seen to include it in like a magic show with goth vibes and industrial music and it's a it's a real like tonal shift it's a
Starting point is 00:10:41 real tonal shift it gets very serious and very very upsetting when you're in the middle of this really crazy magic show talking about his story. But then the trick he was doing, he doesn't quite do the same thing, but the trick he was doing was that he talks about what a horrible thing it is and how hard it is for families. But then the trick was that I think he wheeled out
Starting point is 00:11:01 a hot assistant on stage in a wheelchair made to look like a kid battling cancer so she had like a bald cap and a wheelchair a wheelchair full of stuffed animals and then he like made her levitate and revealed her to be hot and floated and cured her and floated up underneath her and cured her yeah yeah let's not rush and then he was like but tonight is about life and then it just immediately became like a laser dance party with these like jabberwocky kind of knockoffs like doing these flips and him with like a laser and a mirror making the laser go all over playing this like techno music and it's just like so crazy and such a i mean but also so personal and uh it just hits that sweet spot of like very sincere and also very uh insane uh in a show that
Starting point is 00:11:54 also includes like my strongest memory of it was there's a runner of that there's people who have blue paint kind of coming off of their or is it just one character is it like a woman who has some blue paint streaked out of her mouth because she sucked the she blew the it was just so full of like jokes like that and he would bring a guy up on stage and be like how how thick do you think this platform is and the guy's like i don't know three inches and he's like three inches like just like the dick jokes and just like just really oh and then he had this um this oh gosh there was this like the maestro that was a character that's no longer with the show of this little latino guy just really offensive and with who was with this uh heavy woman i mean it was just like
Starting point is 00:12:46 it was a crazy amalgam of uh of like jokes and serious stuff like the childhood cancer segment sorry punctuated by jonathan davis music the guy from corn oh yes oh yeah and then a guy on stage like wailing on the guitar playing it live i think. And so then we went back to see, because he was doing, oh, so he was doing this benefit for his charity, HELP, which does stand for Heal Every Life Possible. But Tony Orlando, who was the host, kept saying that it stood for he uh help every living
Starting point is 00:13:28 person yes chanit help every living person it wasn't correct and it's like how do you do that and so chris angeles always had a kind of a problem with acronyms yeah yes it's a very for him and we saw so we saw the regular show and then we were seeing the benefit and during the regular show you know we were all drinking and having fun and just uh marveling at it but then that night he had he at after the cancer segment he's like ladies he's in the audience like ladies and gentlemen johnny christopher and he had brought his son there it was like 11 o'clock at night and the kid was like three i threw everything and then he like holds him up and i was like wow that's crazy um and and then he had a guy from the show walk like to the middle of the aisle and start taking
Starting point is 00:14:20 photos and my like kind of drunk uh brain was like oh i guess we could take photos of this part so i pulled out my phone and just started taking photos and then five seconds later a guy was like you out and they pulled me out of my seat walk me to the back i was like i'm so sorry i was just i was so excited and i saw the other guy taking photos and he's like delete him and i had to go through and i deleted it he's like and then another one popped up he's like that one too and i i had taken in the span of like 10 seconds like 65 photos and i had to delete everyone i was like can i go back to my seat now he's like no you're banned you're banned i was like no and he's like picture? No, it was only for that night.
Starting point is 00:15:05 I could not go back to the show, but luckily I was able to go back to the benefit, which was great, yeah. It was four hours long. More stars in it, right? Gary Oldman was there. What? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Gary Oldman is Criss Angel's best friend. We all know that, right? They are best friends. If you look it up, it's well documented. Really? They are best friends. Wait, it up it's well documented really they are sorry emmanuel lewis you said no oh oh gary old gary oldman okay yes wait did somebody say emmanuel lewis i thought you said i i heard something that was a phantom wanted it to be true so bad emmanuel lewis's name ringing in his ears probably was there it was like gary oldman andrew dice clay carrot top flavor flave sigfried and roy jerry lewis and his last
Starting point is 00:15:51 live appearance wow so uh rick thomas uh like it's so many uh who's that other guy something brown this in person yeah there's, it was a who's who. Terry Fader? At one point. Was Terry Fader there? I think he did, maybe. Yeah, he was. He did like one bit. One puppet thing?
Starting point is 00:16:12 Yeah. Jerry Lewis said in his small presentation that he had just completed a movie, which was his last movie, that he said was like perfect reviews right now on Tomatoes, and Tom Sharpling was next to me and he just like opened his phone up, looked it up.
Starting point is 00:16:28 It was like a 15%. Perfect reviews. Perfect 15%. My shining moment though was, because we were way up in the balcony and you had to bid, you could bid on things from his life. And then that band Imagine Dragons
Starting point is 00:16:44 came out to introduce one of the items and um and they were just like uh the main guy was was like uh childhood cancer is a serious thing that affects so many families in the united states i can't even imagine. And I just said, dragons. And then like the whole section started laughing. And then I was like, man, if he can't imagine dragons, we're all in trouble. Just completely being idiots. Jerks. Do you remember this, Jason, that we found out ahead of time that there was like one of the things you could bid on was to spend the weekend in chris angel's house yes and like have the whole run of his like weird goth palace and yeah we tried to get it we actually like put all our money together and then
Starting point is 00:17:34 leading up to the moment you got on the phone with a bunch of people in la and got them to commit yeah i think nathan fielder was gonna go in in. Yeah, we were going to. Sheer's going to go in. But I feel, I just watched that clip recently. I think you can hear, they're like, can we have a bid? And I think you're the first bid. Whoa. Because it went for like what? Like how many? Within seconds, we were outbid.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Yeah, but I think it went for like at least $25,000, maybe a lot more than that. But they're like, okay, a weekend at Criss Angel's Mansion, you know, private cook and blah, blah, blah. And they're like, do we have any bids? And Eva was just like, $300. That's all you got up to? $300?
Starting point is 00:18:14 We had to hide. We were starting low. We were starting. You don't want to start with your max. You don't want to start with your max. But someone from Abu Dhabi clearly bought it for, like, just a ridiculous sum. One person as opposed to 50 compiled from multiple cities. That's really insane.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Mike, you were saying you had a celebrity presence when you saw Chris. So I saw the Chris Angel show, Mind Freak. I saw it. I was alone. I was in the last row. I was in Vegas alone for a night which i remember i remember bug main texting me and saying i'm at disney and i go i'm in vegas on it he goes on a thursday who are you me but i was there like a night before there's a wrestling
Starting point is 00:18:57 show anyway so i'm alone and i'm loving the whole show and he does does the whole rave at the end. It's a big celebratory thing. And then he goes, I want to introduce a special guest who's here. Ladies and gentlemen, Pitbull. And Pitbull comes up on stage. And they just praise each other back and forth for like seven minutes. There's no song. He doesn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:19:21 He was just in. Not part of an illusion? Just talking? Nothing. Nothing. He's just there to exchange pleasantries for like minutes and it's even i was i was everyone around me could have given a shit about it i feel like i was just like looking around for like strangers like what
Starting point is 00:19:35 do you see what people and they're just like uh whatever we got like comp tickets from the hotel uh and it couldn't have been a better ending to that show. So, so he, Chris brings it. It's, it's spectacle. He brings his a game to everything he does.
Starting point is 00:19:54 And we're going to find out if that is also true of his, his restaurant, which I know that you're very versed in have not been yet. But is there anything you'd like to say in advance about Kaplip as we start to dive in? Is there anything you want to make sure that we sufficiently address? I mean, just are you, or just how excited are you to
Starting point is 00:20:13 go? I'm just so excited to go. I think, well, I'm trying to wrangle a group to go in March or April because Chris is unveiling a new show, A Mystica, it's called. A-M-Y-S-T-I-K-A. That's a prequel to Mind Freak, which is interesting
Starting point is 00:20:30 because Mind Freak does not have a story. Unless it's about the first child who ever got cancer. If we're going back to the beginnings of cancer. The first cell that split. But it will definitely hit Kblip then, so I know I am so excited. I'm so excited to hear what you guys say about it. And hit so I know I am so excited I'm so excited to hear
Starting point is 00:20:45 what you guys say about it and yeah I can't wait fantastic alright well we're gonna then go back to the future Eva's coming back with us so you stay Jason you survived podcast the ride again thank you
Starting point is 00:21:00 let's go back to the future okay thank you Jason no longer's let's go back to the future okay thank you jason thank you no longer the alec baldwin of podcast the ride uh so that that fills us in on some of it if we can remember what he said back then i mean uh so i mean point being you've seen him you've been enamored with his man we've all seen it wait i forget jason i have not seen it yeah i saw the show and i saw a pit bull i yeah chris angel uh jason wallner told me i uh about the show and i drove to vegas the next morning and saw it that's how i saw chris angel the first time uh he we were at the magic castle he described the show to me i got in my car at nine in the morning just drove straight to vegas saw that show that day so i'm sorry uh just to confirm you were in one magic based environment
Starting point is 00:21:49 yeah it's less eight hours or so it was six to eight hours then in the morning got in your car and drove to a second magic entertainment based environment yes okay then uh like two years later chris uh opens a new show at planet hollywood the first one was at the luxor second show was at planet hollywood he announced by the way that he's also tied to planet hollywood and therefore earl all the pieces of celebrity come together or where was the nitro grill uh nitro girl was at Excalibur. Sorry, yeah. But yeah, it's right there. Yeah. Yeah. So I found out I was going to start a job.
Starting point is 00:22:30 I had like two days. Chris Angel announces that he's opening his new show, Mind Freak, at Planet Hollywood, that it's a totally new show and it's immersive. Oh, right. I get in my car. I drive to Vegas that morning. I buy the meet and greet ticket. I get my picture taken with Chris Angel,
Starting point is 00:22:48 which should be advertising this episode, actually. Yeah, sure. Yes, please. He hugged me. Wow. As I walked away, they said, okay, that's the last meet and greet Chris will do for the rest of his life.
Starting point is 00:23:02 I don't know why they said that. What? I don't know. It's really weird. And also the weird thing is that uh the picture you took with him he ages in the picture but in real life he stays the same yes it's like a dorian grace sort of scenario um the show was not immersive in any way it was the exact same show he had been doing previously the only thing that was different is that you walked into the theater under a giant head of chris angels right that it was half one makeup half the other makeup otherwise same show
Starting point is 00:23:32 still defeats pediatric cancer at the end it's all the same and still like you know spins around all fast like that spins fast upside down did i regret it no i never regret getting in my car and going you met it did you was there any discussion were there any particular words exchanged beyond the hug oh hey hey hey yeah all right bye that's that's what i mean great is that you guys never done one that's what it is hard to get anything in jason i waited waited eight hours to meet Bruce Springsteen. Really? Mm-hmm. Was he nice? Yeah. He was nice. Hey, hey.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Hey. I was like, how's it going, Bruce? And he's like, this is weird. Really? Yeah. Oh, that's sweet.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Yeah, I mean, it was an intense opera. There were so many handlers. There were so many people. They couldn't really say much more than, hey, smile, thank you. And it was at the Grove, too. So seeing an abandoned 5 a.m grove shopping
Starting point is 00:24:26 center whoa and yeah it did not go uh the weight was i think crazier than we thought made a lot of mistakes as far as the way it was concerned i don't know that's weird it wasn't at a concert the grove home of our future mayor rick caruso yeah he's gonna be our mayor yeah we're all insane rich man he even would have built the grove he's running for mayor oh he announced yesterday i mean i assume that the plan includes taking everything in the city i mean like every house and library and post office and making it look like the grove right into yeah because that's the case arbitrary columns everywhere bug main lives above the grove ish breakfast club on hollywood vine yes yeah yeah bug needs to be allowed a window at every everywhere in the city then i vote for him so that was 2018 with chris
Starting point is 00:25:24 angel and then i feel like chris angel's kind of faded into the background for a long time um personally like you guys i got very interested in david copperfield and blue kind of took the baton in terms at least in this little like scene of people i'd say david copperfield became the the mvp. Yeah, and I feel like in the grand scope of things, like, Criss Angel is very much stuck in the world of, like, 2006, like the mid-2000s, and that's what Vegas is perfect for. Whenever you're at the height of your powers, you can just freeze yourself and then do daily shows in Vegas
Starting point is 00:26:01 and make a fortune. For people who, like, don't mind that you're stuck in yeah for people who want to go on vacation and see like the famous person that they remember but like i feel like the difference is chris angel was famous like cable tv famous and uh david copperfield was famous when there was a lot less television channels and had like prime time specials watched by millions. Sure. Yeah, yeah. Chris, David Copperfield dated Claudia Schiffer.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Yes. That's true. There's an episode of the Americans about them watching David Copperfield. Like that's culturally relevant, right? He's important. Right, right. Chris is fun.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Yeah. I don't think we talked with Jason about Mind Freak too much. Did you watch the show? Did any of us watch the show? Do we have specific memories about his cable show? I've only seen the clips of taking a person and the person takes the legs out from under someone and they're just their top half. Am I crazy that that's- That's probably one of them yeah and there's like a fly he would like fly quote unquote
Starting point is 00:27:09 and it was all like uh kind of like street magic but like more intense and extreme but he was never doing like the dangerous david blaine stunts like he just was like under the radar i feel like in a certain way but a certain type of person really loves chris angel it's aesthetic i mean he's got the ed hardy aesthetic kind of thing going for that i think a lot of what you think of is like i mean maybe if people really know then you know what the illusions are but yeah what's deafening to me is that style and it's that all of his graphics have like big knots of thorns in them and it's you know fire transitions and that he's he looks like the crow yeah that's that's all the big you know if i had to if i was what's the good the pyramid or something where i'm trying to say everything but chris angel to a partner yeah yeah thorns, eyeliner, long black hair, crow. Motorcycle.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Strange voice. Strange voice. Wisp. Like jeans with designs on the butt. Like very like embroidered jeans somehow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:15 But he wants to change my answer. Now if I get Criss Angel as a clue on the pyramid, i should be saying uh diner family uh good home-cooked meals connection with with friends uh great place to eat after fun motorbike trip that's the thing his vibes are so all over the place because yes he has raised a lot of money for pediatric cancer research he also has the weird ed hardy aesthetic going and then he is like i would say aggressively patriotic like a guy you wouldn't i guess it's not surprising someone who carries that aesthetic like is really like god bless america patriotic but it is still strange to hear it come out of like you know well creepy voice. Yeah. We thank our patriots.
Starting point is 00:29:07 He's a Jersey Shore guy, ultimately, right? Yeah. His name's Chris Sarantakos. His father owned a burger and ice cream restaurant. Ah. And he worked in these from Jersey. Yeah. So that sort of explains some of the blue collar feel. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:22 And it's a lot of, I don't know, like there's a similar vibe. I don't know if it's all magicians. Maybe we've talked about this before. I forgot. They all have a similar thing of like, people told me I couldn't do this. People always look down on me. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:29:36 I saw Copperfield and Criss Angel so close together and they both have very similar narratives in their shows of like, people said I was a loser and I would never be a magician, but I proved proved them wrong my dad wanted me to not be a magician and own a restaurant i proved him wrong like what i proved i could do a different order never let people tell you never
Starting point is 00:30:00 let people tell you you can't do what you want to do. That's the vibe. All magicians have chips on their shoulder a little bit. Yeah. He's a Long Island guy. Oh, I'm sorry. He's born in Long Island. Not Jersey, Long Island. He might have probably likely went to Adventureland. Sure.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Yeah. He's a Disney guy. He's a Disneyland fan, I believe. So, yeah, he obviously likes fun he likes fun you know tricks um yeah one fun thing before we get into kablip um that in the 2000s at the kind of the height of his powers around mind freak he filmed an episode of mtv's cribs did anybody else come across this i've seen it i've seen it before but i didn't re-watch um so it's it's he has this a compound in vegas called serenity um compound and do you have do you have the notes open i do
Starting point is 00:30:52 yeah my notes um on the first page um uh uh i'll be oh i see oh okay you're giving it oh let me get it out i'm sorry do you want me yeah direction Yeah, direction? Oh, yeah. This is great. I love this. At the bottom of this first page, if you'll be... Scott, if you'll be Chris. Yes. And, sorry, Mike, you'll be Ed. So Chris is introducing his personal chef, whose name is Ed Bible. And, okay, so I'm saying... It's the first line is Chris.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And wait a minute. Oh, and then it's an Ed Bible line, and that's the first line Is Chris Yeah yeah yeah And wait a minute Oh and then it's And then it's in a Bible line And that's the scene Okay okay Gotcha Okay
Starting point is 00:31:28 I know nothing about cooking I can't even boil water That's why I have The best chef Chef Ed Always preparing Always cooking Basically the same meal
Starting point is 00:31:38 For me every day Grilled chicken Rice Four times a day That's it That's it Oh you's it that's it that's it so in his mtv crips he makes his chef talk about how he makes grilled chicken and rice four times a day and that's four that's it an odd meal uh amount that's was all he was eating up to a point. At the height of his pre-dad, when he was not a family man. He was on TV, was all sexy.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Very slight, slender. Yeah, yeah. There's also a part where he shows this Dolly painting with Jesus, Dolly-inspired painting, where he's cut his own hand and dripped blood on it and made it look like it's christ's blood but it's chris's blood like under the painting on the floor well chris is only one letter away from christ yeah that's actually my blood i actually cut my hand and did that and i just thought that was a very poetic and profound piece of art wow this is real sexy this is probably around the time he was dating uh holly madison
Starting point is 00:32:46 from the girls next door after like she let you know that show ended and she left la and stuff and she talks about him being uh an insane man like being very possessive uh especially as ticket sales started to drop or the show started to not go well i'm guessing the luxor show and then she said he insisted on having one of his bodyguards travel with her and she's like yeah i'd just be out to dinner with friends and they'd be like who is this i'm like this is chris angel's bodyguard which for me raises two questions one um why does a magician need bodyguards and uh second question why does he have bodyguards to spare like why does he have lenders i got enemies everywhere enemies always coming after me other magicians probably well other
Starting point is 00:33:33 magicians i mean it seems like they can disappear they no slight event they're not as good as me but they're better at magic than the bodyguards so they gotta watch out if lance lance burton gets a drop on me i'll be ready it's a double he must be using a double there's no other answer there was so there's like two years i lost track of him and then when pandemic started i feel like we were all kind of like looking in on like going back and looking in on people like because like copperfield was posting blue in a mask just a photo yeah and like who was kind of like quiet if we if we weren't like spoiling if there was that in the show like there was not a lot of public blue stuff out there and all of a sudden blue's doing little dances uh in a mask did he do this like was did blue do the song about
Starting point is 00:34:19 like uh uh wait i'm gonna mess up. Like, don't go out. Don't stay. This is a famous song. Oh, right, right, right. There was something like that. There was something like where, yeah, Blue was giving us a pandemic message. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:36 I don't remember specifically. But it pivoted pretty quickly to like, oh, this is the worst, huh? Like, oh, when are we going to open back up? I feel like today's topic, some like oh when are we gonna open back up i feel like i feel like today's topic some like when are we getting open when are we getting right there yeah april 2020 he's like i'm sick of being on uh the island what's it called oh uh yeah musha k david when are we gonna open up the businesses david i's sick of Musha K David, when are we going to open up the businesses, David? I'm sick of being in your private museum, David Let me out of the private museum
Starting point is 00:35:12 We've already eaten all the monkeys We gotta get off of here But I checked in on Chris during this time And I totally missed He had a second child so we already knew about Johnny Christopher because Johnny Christopher is part of the show right Christos Yanni had been born
Starting point is 00:35:31 and was just part of the gang as well and so he's like doing little he's doing little kind of we're doing the pandemic things with Johnny Christopher and Christos Yanni same name backwards that's very strange yeah wait wait that's okay well this is a whole thing we'll keep finding us i don't want to spoil all of them but with in the chris angel world there's a big recurring
Starting point is 00:35:56 thing of reusing names reusing names both products and children more than anything names are finite to chris and he comes up with a name and then he can't come up with any more names for a while um so that was so but then may so for a full year he was like you know being a little passive-aggressive with anthony fauci on instagram mostly just showing his kids doing stuff well he was like i i want to believe in you it was like this weird tension of him seeing Fauci briefly on mask and be like, I got kids. My kid needs to be safe.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Wear your mask, Fauci. So it was like that version of it. It was a little complicated. Really analyzing it. Fauci threw the pitch out at the baseball game, and I thought that was weird. So I'm not totally on Fauci's side. But then May 18th, 2021, we find out for the first time about kablip because there's a
Starting point is 00:36:47 press conference press release it was only then this is all within the year yeah and even according to another piece of media i'll explain later he discovered so basically he had been dirt biking in the moapa valley which is an hour from vegas with johnny christopher and christos yanni he found this restaurant called sugars which was an old home plate yeah and he was like i'm gonna buy this restaurant and make a restaurant what my dad wanted me to do i'm gonna do it i'm gonna make christ and it's gonna be breakfast lunch and pizza so so here's one big thing to to really hit about this establishment I remember seeing the general idea of it in the headline about it Chris Angel's opening up a restaurant outside of Vegas and I thought I see makes sense
Starting point is 00:37:41 oh maybe it's like off strip maybe it's in uh Fremont or even or it's some odd, you know, it's a mile away. There's fun things on the outskirts of Vegas. Of course, why not? Makes sense. Then you learn that it is an hour northeast of Vegas. It is not even clay. It's not just like it's a little bit of a cab. It is a massive journey to take.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Here is a visual representation of that journey from the Kaplip website. And if you'll also notice, they have a little tagline. Forget Vegas. I'm in Overton, Nevada, eating with Chris, cowboys, bikers, and aliens. But that was put over the Google Maps JPE jpeg like there's text under it like uh-huh the scale justify it right and according to the website how long does it say it takes to get there right now it's just a brisk uh 45 minutes it's only 63.2 miles 45 minutes okay that might figure in later that might factor in later. It says 45 minutes. They've managed to find a way on Google Maps that it is from Las Vegas. The starting point is somewhere that is technically Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:38:52 But I looked up from Planet Hollywood because he pushes that. Come see Mind Freak at Planet Hollywood. And then come celebrate at Kablim. It's only 45 minutes away. But it's at least an hour three from Planet Hollywood. So what he specifically recommend, we're adding, and that 15 minutes ain't nothing, and it is a big old desert drive.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Do you know offhand the name of the park? It's a big sprawling, the Ring of Fire is that it? The Valley of Fire State Park. Valley of Fire, okay, okay. Which is supposed to be a beautiful place, like an amazing natural wonder. I've been in there. It's really beautiful.
Starting point is 00:39:27 But you drive through there and you really lose track of time and landmarks. I remember that specifically being like a big, long, meandery drive, which I'm only imagining here I haven't been. So May 18th, he announces Kablip, and there's just a ton of negative press, including the Vice headline, is Chris Angel's Kablip the worst restaurant name of all time? Which was when they asked a restaurant branding expert, it was like, yes. If I could read a quote from that guy i think he he explained it really well um he also rationalized like he was trying to think of anything that could take the cake and be worse
Starting point is 00:40:12 and he said like well i have a distaste for like hooters and twin peaks like i find those annoying but they're actually kind of brilliant in a way and they say exactly what they are and there's double entendre they communicate exactly what needs to be communicated and it's a little cheeky as opposed to kablip which like huh and then what is and it's a he also says how like you know people mispronounce chipotle for a long time but then there is a real word and there there's like uh like kablip why why make up such a difficult word to say? There's no point. But then this quote, I think he explained it really well.
Starting point is 00:40:48 I wouldn't mind it so much if, when the meaning of the word were unfurled, it was profound and there was an aha moment. But that doesn't exist. It's simply Criss Angel's breakfast, lunch, and pizza. For a brand spirited by a magician, a prestidigitare extraordinaire. You would expect something magical, and it's incredibly not. There really is something to that. But you still need explanation at the end, almost. Like, huh?
Starting point is 00:41:15 But why is he doing that? And that's not what he does. And he has a really specific brand, and why isn't it that? Why isn't it scary? Why isn't it anything like uh mind freak dine freak dine freak mind meat or something and when you see it written out the c and the a are often capitalized but the blp are lowercase so it's not even it's the term is camel case like when you
Starting point is 00:41:40 write a few words without spaces or like punctuation and stuff, but you capitalize the first letter of each word. Like if you're naming a file on a computer, it's called camel. It's called camel case. Yeah. Wow. But then also the logo, the a is inside of a backwards C,
Starting point is 00:41:57 which is almost a full circle, which is the way Chris Angel writes his name and his shows. But it just means it looks like a blip with a circle around the a i didn't know that was supposed to be a c yeah that's it yeah and i've been thinking about this i've been looking at this logo more than a normal person it's almost the anarchy symbol yeah i thought it was that yeah yes no so um the other thing that that you reminded me of is you mentioned the drive from planet hollywood uh the um wait a minute okay sorry sorry to interrupt jason but you were showing us this
Starting point is 00:42:30 showing us the magazine it doesn't look like a c it looks like a circle a c doesn't see as a space on the right side it does not read as kablip at all visually it's one of the worst logos i've ever seen and then it still adds his name. Chris Angel's Oblip Breakfast, Lunch, and Pizza. Lots of words, lots of fonts combined. The end for in pizza is on the P. In the P. Inside the P. And it's in a bright red.
Starting point is 00:42:58 It's McDonald's red. It feels very McDonald's red in this. Anyway, you were saying? Oh, I was saying. So Planet Hollywood, the Planet Hollywood Casino, you know, so there's a lot of shops. red it feels very mcdonald's reminiscent anyway you were saying oh i was saying so planet hollywood the planet hollywood casino um you know there so there's a lot of shops it's it's got a mall or a half a mall in it yeah um there's a lot of shops uh at the start of 2020 before the pandemic you know what they had ample amounts of their empty storefronts you know what they also have probably had in 2021 22 empty storefronts you know who is
Starting point is 00:43:27 doing a show next door or within the same facility chris angel and i was like well surely kablip has just slapped his name on a casino restaurant in those many empty storefronts no you would think absolutely well why not well I guess because he fell in love with the valley and with the biking. That's right. He had good times at Sugar's home plate. So he wanted to buy it and destroy it. I'm going to do the greatest magic trick I've ever seen. I'm going to turn this functioning restaurant into a non-functioning restaurant. um he uh around so he he announces kablip and i'm like you have my attention we're all like
Starting point is 00:44:10 you have our attention so we all start following him on instagram at this point to be like what is this yeah so then we start noticing like june 28th he announces that he's also producing coffee the brand of coffee is java freak parentheses be the bean and so much better branding yeah and then he only has one roast it's the italian roast which is named alusia and on the front of the bag it also says java freak.com get the bean so it's beat the bean and get the bean are both on the front of the bag and also a Lucia Italian roast. And a Lucia is also not yet. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Yeah. I'm sorry. I don't mean to jump the gun. But I will say the branding, a lot of the presentation really feels like a freshman marketing student in college who has the project due the next day and is scrambling to do it. Some of the ugliest logos branding yes and the the videos the short youtube so much so perplexing so much doesn't make sense where it's like you are outside a city that is full of marketing and salesmanship and this is so it's not even like someone's self this is so odd yeah yeah yeah no it's all like uh looks like
Starting point is 00:45:29 angel fire or like really really early like uh before you could had good uh photoshops like it's crazy yeah it's fair it really feels like and i can't think of a better example than just like the the living with michael jackson documentary where he's buying like he's just pointing at things i want this i want this like chris angel and i'm assuming in the same way like i want that restaurant buy it for me come up with like and just like shouts out a bunch of things and doesn't think anything through it's like that kind of process of like just buying like i'm doing this now and then people scramble and that's why everything of like just buying, like I'm doing this now. And then people scramble. And that's why everything looks like shit.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Everything looks weird. Doesn't make any sense. Because the same limited group of people have to do all of it. And it's all things they've never tried to do before. Cause they're part of a magician's entourage, not restaurant tours. There's a guy like in charge of his straight jackets. And all he knows is how to hold the Criss Angel up in the air. And it's twirl and straight jacket. Now he's's designing fonts like he's doing new fonts for this get me the
Starting point is 00:46:29 liquor license yeah this is like you know to call it to call back to another the early imagineers they were animators and now they're being called upon to make robots and stuff so this is the same thing now they're being called up his magic people being called upon well but there were and there were great results when disney it. That's true. There was no Bob Gurr in the Criss Angel camp. We could do it all. Oh, we got to go back, don't we? The old names.
Starting point is 00:46:53 I'm trying to get us transitioned back into it. You're trying to help. Actually, this would be a good time then to get into because basically July 18th, like a week basically before the grand opening, he opens, like, previews, starts previewing the restaurant. Mm-hmm. Right around Disneyland's opening.
Starting point is 00:47:12 That's kind of an interesting overlap. Well, so as there's, like, kind of, you're going to get some shots of, like, people trying out Kablip. Mm-hmm. Three days, in that window between the grand opening and the previews the website goes live and i feel like we really have to get into the kablip website yeah it's just like an embarrassment of of riches it's um he at all times is asking you to buy into a lot of mythology and and learn a lot this actually just to summon bar rescue another
Starting point is 00:47:46 recently referenced thing i feel like uh maybe a smarter thing that taffer does is try to like say you know you can't like tell this massive story but you can't like there can't be 70 things that you have to learn and figure out about the bar before you order the drink. If you want to acknowledge who you are and your history and the story in some slight way, great. But Chris just floods this thing with when I was a kid and I loved this and I met this guy and you're going to find out about him. But also there's this brand and then magic tricks and then just a lot thrown at you. Taffer would have screamed at him if you read it. Shut the site down.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Wait, does anyone want to read the Italian ice thing? Because I feel like it's all, what you're saying is nothing's more personified than. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like page five. Go for it if you got it. Page five. Oh, I have it here.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Okay, yeah, go for it. It's I've Been Crazy. Yeah. And this is Chris talking. Yeah, it continues on to the next one. I've been crazy about Italian ices since I was a kid. And I'm so proud to say that we actually manufactured them right off the Las Vegas strip on our own manufacturing plant located at Criss Angel Studios.
Starting point is 00:48:52 We have over 100 different delicious flavors created by our partner, mastermind, isologist Mike Gambuza, who has been producing gourmet ices for over two decades. Mike Gambuza. I like game games. Wait, and then save room. You say, you say. Save room. I bet you can't have just one lick. Okay, so that comes up in something I grabbed too,
Starting point is 00:49:17 which is there's this image of Italian ices on the website a couple times with different copy each time and one says manufactured in chris's mind foods plant in las vegas they call it something different mind foods and then chris angel studios yes a delicious natural alternative to ice cream bet you can't just have one lick of this guilt-free indulgence all right there's like five things in there one i i italianized very popular around pennsylvania new jersey new york i've never ever heard it called a natural alternative to ice cream a lot of homeopathic medicine no ice cream isn't natural you think think of it. A lot of places do brag about like real fruit pieces, real fruit juice.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Even there, that's stretching the term natural. Another thing is one of the most popular presentations of Italian ice layered with sauce serve ice cream or frozen custard. So I don't know. It seems like he's pitching it as a health food, but then they're like glowing. There's like fluorescent blue and green. Jason, are you questioning Mike Gambuza?
Starting point is 00:50:28 Who's been in the fucking frozen dessert business for 20 years? What part of his mastermind isologist? You do not understand. Jesus, I hate the disrespect Jason's showing Mike Gambuza. Mike Gambuza. Because you got to respect, he's just talking about Mike Gambuza like we know who he is. And then on this article from View On Magazine,
Starting point is 00:50:48 which I would point from. You have a hard copy. You have a physical copy of a magazine with you. He mentions pizza extraordinaire Mike Barham, which I like because if Mike Gambuza is a master iceologist, a pizza extraordinaire is a pizza. So he's implying that he partnered a pizza extraordinaire is a pizza.
Starting point is 00:51:10 He's implying that he partnered with a pizza named Mike Barham. I've hired a talking pizza to oversee pizza. All right, here's your order. His name is Mike Barham. I think you'll find. All of my pizza's are named Mike Barham. And of course also his brother costa seren tacos uh who opened who's the one who took over the father's restaurant so
Starting point is 00:51:31 it's almost like chris angel's like a reverse uh guy like he surrounds himself with smaller guys like when we talk about the guys yeah like the guys and other restaurants chris doesn't have a guy above him and he's not powerful enough to be like a win or a trump he's like a hoarder of weird yeah guys i met an ethologist once there's different members of the x-men whose mutant power is to amplify other mutants mutant powers and make them stronger and chris is kind of like that for guys. Yeah. And it's also, it makes sense for like a Long Island guy. Like, I know my God of Ice guy, Mike Gambuza. He'll do it.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Like, just let me call Mike Gambuza. And let me call Mike Barham. He's going to. I've never met a better pizza than Mike Barham. Carlo's Italian Ice. I found Mike Gambuza's places. Really? There's one in Los Angeles
Starting point is 00:52:25 There's one in Staten Island And it's got I think they're both It's I don't know He's probably got more too And it's Oh no
Starting point is 00:52:32 It's not loading anymore This is here Carlos Gourmet Italian Ices I love that That's a good logo Yeah Yeah So this guy does know
Starting point is 00:52:40 Mike Gamboos does know What he's doing Yeah that's a pretty Normal Italian Ice logo But again I've never heard it called like a guilt-free indulgence. It's a guilt-free indulgence.
Starting point is 00:52:49 It's a guilt-free indulgence and also the other thing in here. Bet you can't have just one lick. There's a lot of oddly sexual stuff on this menu. The menu's highly sexual. Highly sexual. The coffee is a little sexual., the coffee is a little sexual.
Starting point is 00:53:05 The Italian ice is a little sexual. Look, this guy likes to have bawdy fun. We're getting back to it. The words are back. We're getting back to the words. I'm just reintroducing them. Where will seat come into play here? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:53:18 You're going to want to take a seat at Ka-Blip to order any number of breakfast, lunch, and pizza entrees. I thought it was weird also the thing you read jason that my the one i read was i bet you can't have just one lick and then yours was like i bet a single lick won't be enough to satisfy what you are craving out of the ice array and also not satiate your urges it's like these things appear on the same page just like just do you see the one you keep scrolling down the page you see the same image but different copy and it's just like that is like 101 like design running a restaurant and stuff make everything consistent
Starting point is 00:53:58 no he's throwing away i'm also look at this if i speak of the sea here's one with the sea and then the wait a minute on the sign yeah wait i yeah look okay well you're showing me on the what's happening so on the actual restaurant and when you go to the place there is no sea but on the website there's a sea and the in the place the circle is meant to stand as a C, but there's no opening. And he's wearing a shirt that has the bad logo on it, too. Yeah, you're right. Wait, so they changed it at some, but it's too late. We made the sign. We booked the play on cover.
Starting point is 00:54:34 What is it? This is a magazine called View On Magazine. It's the official magazine of Moapa Valley. Which he was bragging about. He said View On Magazine has never had a person on the cover i'm the first person ever to be on view on magazine which i did think was a little impressive when i heard it but i didn't know it was moapa valley exclusive oh yeah it's it's just stuff going on the moapa valley okay um it's it's a it's a nice magazine um so so july uh july 23rd kablip opens to the public official oh boy nine days after its
Starting point is 00:55:12 preview starts yeah um it's great he he instagrams just the he's like an instagram of the full restaurant he says every table stall and tummy filled kablip eat blip smiley face drooling oh another branding thing we haven't talked about is that the twitter and maybe the instagram i don't know but the twitter at least is eat blip not kablip okay which is great because club was probably taken he didn't check that before he named it so cable cable p like some guy who has a company called cable p we took it already or he's like i like i thought when I misspelled cable in my Twitter name, it would be the death of my business. Who knew I'd be squatting on valuable land?
Starting point is 00:55:53 So that's July 27th. Two days later, Mike, do you know what happens? No, actually I don't. Okay, tell them. It closes. It closes. I knew that was coming. I didn't know it was two days later.
Starting point is 00:56:07 There's an Instagram video where just like the little thing is just some pizza. But when you click it, the thing just says, must temporarily close. Response beyond expectations i also i remember hearing about this uh uh from the man we heard earlier jason walliner who i i want to quote him the way he broke the news which is kablip has shut down but don't worry it's only because they are so successful um which is what how they Wait a minute Are there I don't want to jump ahead Are there multiple closures
Starting point is 00:56:49 Not yet No Okay okay But Cause I Wait I think though That they're weirdly
Starting point is 00:56:55 I think there was A brief closure In the preview period Because Now I haven't Skipped past the ad on this So forgive me We'll have it in a couple seconds
Starting point is 00:57:04 But he filmed an emergency video. Important message from Chris. Yes. He had to rush this to YouTube in order for 720 people to see it. We're the 721st. Wait, okay, so really quick. He's by his pool. It's cloudy weather.
Starting point is 00:57:19 He looks kind of stressed, and he goes into this. I came to make this video, but I have to make it. We, unfortunately, are completely sold out of our food products. We ordered tons of stuff from Siskel and U.S. Foods. Everything is depleted. We are closing today at 5 o'clock. We are completely closed tomorrow at Kablip
Starting point is 00:57:41 due to the overwhelming response. I want to thank you so much more upper valley for the incredible food love we really love you we are still slipping in that weird branding of food love i hate that what i hate out some people are too enthusiastic about food i sometimes find it disgusting but then condensing it into like little words like yummy food love or like there's a video here every table stall and tummy filled like oh my god
Starting point is 00:58:11 I hate that thank god I feel like that's the I feel like you guys would love saying tummy though that's exactly the kind of shit I get upset about yeah it is oh my full full tummy my tumsy wumsy got a bit of the wobblies yeah Jason just doesn't like it with food he likes saying tummy Full, full tummy. My tumsy-wumsy got a bit of the wobblies. Jason just doesn't like it with food.
Starting point is 00:58:29 He likes saying tummy in relation to other stuff. Where it's like if I'm eating and the TV's on, I can't have the food network on as I'm eating other food. Really? Yeah, I find it unnerving. Unnerving? That's an odd one. Yeah, I just find it weird. Yeah, I don't.
Starting point is 00:58:42 What if it's the exact same food you're watching and eating at the same time? That actually would probably be okay. Okay. Yeah. That's a double, like, you're getting an extra sensory experience in that way. Yeah. So, anyway, I think that was actually before. I think that in the preview period. Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Yeah, yeah. That's all they had to do was keep things going. And he also, I like what he reveals in there, which is we bought so much food from Cisco. So he outs that they're buying from these like packaged food companies. Again, a taffer. No, no. It's premium from Cisco. He wouldn't be happy, but they didn't change the plan.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Because then, because that's earlier on the YouTube channel than when he has his entire audience all yell at the camera. Ka-blip! Ka-blip! Often if you go see him live, he might pull you into promoting whatever he's doing. Or in one case, cheering on a Moapa Valley high school football team. Like he's facing the audience like, all right, we got a thousand of your best friends here who wants to say something to you go cougars that's right congrats
Starting point is 00:59:50 on the intermural Scott the congrats on the Moapa Valley Pirates is actually the most viewed video on the EPLP page how many 766 views that's nice well like All the parents
Starting point is 01:00:05 Watched it Yeah I hope they got Some free food From somewhere else Actually yeah Some free food So his statement
Starting point is 01:00:13 When they close Is actually very similar To that statement He says We are grateful For the overwhelming Support and food love In order to fulfill
Starting point is 01:00:22 Our promise of delicious Food and excellence In customer service We need to expand Our operation immediately In order to fulfill our promise of delicious food and excellence in customer service we need to expand our operation immediately in order to meet the unbelievable demand we will reopen in august once we add additional refrigeration freezers more staffing pos system and storage that's five things thank you for your patience and understanding as we try to better serve you we We will see you in August. So he says they're going to close for 20 days.
Starting point is 01:00:52 That is not, they close for a lot longer than 20 days. So they were open for three days. At one point he says, our near spotless POS system went down a few times. it's not near spotless if it keeps crashing and also why are you talking why are you telling us that like don't say any of this we don't need to know we don't need to know you don't have enough refrigeration like that's terrifying in the deep deep heat of the muwappa valley where it's it's so hot they there is a bench outside of the restaurant that has a little thing on it says don't sit here if it's too hot they had to warn people about that and yet they've had it be remotely in question whether they have enough refrigeration what was this all exclusively
Starting point is 01:01:38 posted on that youtube channel on his instagram so on his main personal okay so people would see it i was just like who who even showed up and, oh, it's closed. Like, we got to get to social media to find out why. Well, here's something that's crazy, too, is he talks about the great reviews. And then, but that's not the case. We, if you look at all the reviews from the very short training period, here's one. Reminded me of a prison cafeteria scene or on CSI,
Starting point is 01:02:09 right down to steel cages over the lights, stainless steel tables, plates, and plastic silverware, plus the added aluminum window shades after hours to keep the vandals out in downtown Overton. So much for local Overton restaurant. And the response from the owner, thanks for the feedback. This is another one. Had breakfast.
Starting point is 01:02:28 No flavor hash brown. Sausage didn't taste like anything I had ever tasted. Toast without butter on table. No coffee refills. Different people writing this. Wow. Plastic knife and fork. No spoon, metal, or paper plates.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Hot paper coffee. No spoon. No spoon. Everything seemed like I was on a picnic, not in a restaurant. And then there's this really complicated one where somebody tries to order, because on the website they have Mike Gamboos' Italian ice. Of course. And they'll add vodka to it and make it a mind freeze.
Starting point is 01:03:03 So someone tried to order that, and the waitress was like i can't pour that i'm underage so they had to she had to go find someone to pour it and then a person said he says you have 100 flavors and they said we only have six flavors and she's like can i have this flavor like no there's only three flavors that will make a mind freeze out of strawberry lemon and chocolate and they asked for another one, and they said, Chris likes it that way. So they had to get a flavor they didn't like when they were promised 100.
Starting point is 01:03:31 And this is like a very, so this is one of the reviews. It's so complicated, and this is one of the reviews. So the reviews were like very harsh for the 10 days. Which is probably one of the reasons this is going on. Yeah, yeah. The plastic silverware is crazy there's no justification of that um i i think that's true of coffee even if you're not taking it to go it's paper cups yeah just chintzy stuff here also again i do want to point out uh
Starting point is 01:03:59 plan hollywood hotel and casino basically center strip a lot of quick service bars walk up windows seems like the perfect place to have a window serving italian ice or italian ice with vodka dumped on it not the case which is very interesting uh so we're just sitting it's july into august august into mid-august kablip has not reopened august 28th, 2021, off what you're saying, Jason, on Instagram, Chris writes, just a picture of a bunch of 100 flavors of Italian ice. Our delicious gourmet Italian ice is heading to the heart of the Strip, September 1st.
Starting point is 01:04:37 New location to be announced. Hashtag KaBlip. Hashtag EatBlip. Hashtag over 100 flavors. So this is interesting. Maybe he's not going to open kablip, but he is going to sell the ice. Right, right. Maybe he has a lot of extra ice.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Yeah. Maybe there are 100 flavors. Well, that wasn't, so September 2nd, kablip suddenly reopens. Wow. Wow. It's back. It's been more than 30 days at this point. So just in previews for seven days, for three days closed for more than a month
Starting point is 01:05:08 spider-man turn off the dark um so just side note have you guys have you guys ever read the book helter skelter no no nobody's read helter skelter no it's a great book you know story of the manson investigation written by vince bugli. And there's this really amazing part that I love because the first 200 pages are basically the third person just telling of the murders. And then just sort of the, the very beginning of the cops kind of trying to figure out what's happening. And then Manson gets arrested where one of the family gets arrested and 200 pages.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Then Bugliosi basically says and then the phone rings and i picked it up and he reveals like this is b i'm the prosecutor the guy's been writing the book the whole time i'm actually part of this yeah and in the book he says like in a way i'm a newcomer an intruder the sudden switch from an unseen background narrator to a very personal account is bound to be a surprise oh so this is my way of telling your listeners that two days later i went to kblip yeah yeah i got up in the morning like it happens what actually happened was we had a three-day weekend we had plans and my husband said to me kablip is gonna close again and i don't want to live with you if you like
Starting point is 01:06:32 never went if i you have to like know it's open and then you didn't go and it's closed again forever he's like you have to go so i just got out of my car like always you broke plans that in order because of this sudden you all ended this was not pre-med it you didn't know like when i mean you probably knew when it was going to reopen you'll go but i i woke up that morning i did not know i'd be eating a cookbook that day wow it like it just happened i threw all my stuff in a bag and i drove first i drove to my hotel dumped my stuff off got in my car i stayed at we should talk about this another time resorts world run by the mercurial the mercurial uh his first outpost in america or not i don't think it is for i found out there is a resorts world in
Starting point is 01:07:20 queens really that i considered staying at for our new york show but it's just too inconvenient resort true vegas fucking rules i love i only want to stay there from now on great robot dogs anyway drove from the edge the far edge of vegas in no traffic to kblip more than an hour way more than an hour of course hour 15 easy driving a little over the speed limit sorry and that's the north end of the strip so you are on your way to yeah it's not like you're at like mandalay bay and had to go through the whole strip to get there i was at the circus circus i was at the pepper mill you're at the end yeah yeah there's no more big casinos no traffic geez so so far so far he's lying the website is
Starting point is 01:08:05 you click that that's not a google map link it's just a like an image he's doctor yeah you know where I've heard
Starting point is 01:08:13 as good diner food of this kind of quality the peppermint peppermint one of the best with the 500
Starting point is 01:08:21 page drink menu it's the best place ever and that like fire pit unlike this place like looks so rad that is the most awesome looking locked in time neon place i've ever seen so i i parked i started we have a text chain i just started uh secretly like i hadn't warned anybody just sending you guys photos from the outside and inside of Kablip. You know what's funny is that I thought that this, I think I thought you were with people. I think I thought that you like dragged people on a group trip.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Like it's this thing you'll see. I don't think I realized that it was spur of the moment and solo in the deep desert. I just went. Did you have a general feeling before you got there? How did you feel about Overton and the Moapa Valley I mean it's really Really empty It's like a way
Starting point is 01:09:09 Way I mean there was only Like two or three I passed like the school And I passed like a library And then It's like No stoplight
Starting point is 01:09:17 It's like tiny What time was it When you got there I got there for like An early dinner Okay By the time I left The sun was setting
Starting point is 01:09:24 So they weren't serving L anymore But you could get p i couldn't get b though no no okay so you're stuck either in like pizza the patriot burger or the mind freak burger exactly although i mean that's one thing about this but this they the menu is they they are trying to serve every type of food right which also feels like a kind of amateur restaurant thing like maybe you start with three things and nail them instead of like 200 because it's everything it's burgers and pizza and breakfast and coffee and italian ice and alcoholic italian ice and fajitas and like things that don't all go together where you it's like separate ingredients have to be gotten only for this fish and chips like i maybe
Starting point is 01:10:10 start a little smaller and don't run out it feels like what happens sometimes is the family running the pizza place buys out the diner next door and now they're running both of them he tried to do it from nothing very different he could have just kept the diet like i think he was also keeping some diner stuff to try to keep the locals happy because breakfast probably is a thing people ate at sugars sure but i don't know one thing that seemed to answer one big question was that most of the parking lot was taken up by two giant mobile refrigeration units that were clearly solving the refrigeration problem. He was not lying about that.
Starting point is 01:10:53 He needed more refrigerators. Yeah, yeah. I don't think he was lying. Right. I'm just saying. Maybe he should have lied. Yeah. Maybe he shouldn't know that.
Starting point is 01:11:00 You have to say that. What did those look like from the outside? Just big gray boxes? Like big white trailers that you could walk into. It seems like walk-in freezers, but they were outside and they were run by generators. So they're loud? Oh, yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Yeah. And taking up parking spaces. So if there's more than four people there, you're out on the road. Chris has his own parking space, though. Reserved with the big A and what apparently is a C. So I walk in two days after grand opening. It was pretty sparse. I got seated in a booth with an infant.
Starting point is 01:11:41 I was sharing a booth with maybe a six-week-old infant. Regardless of that fact, which is crazy, why are you sharing a a booth why is it at that point i don't know this is the pandemic still i was like i was like facing it was like a long booth and i was i had my own table but i was like uncomfortably close to an infant this is something yeah i've i've noticed this about it that the tables seem extremely close together yeah everything's really jammed oh i should mention the first thing i did when i walked in before i sat down or right after i got my table we haven't talked about the magic room but the back of cobblip is a magic room where he it it's incredible i hate the magic oh man what's wrong with the magic room well the i would say the um upper half of a torso popping out of the ceiling
Starting point is 01:12:26 that's like the from like chest that's like the trick i was talking about earlier of of the torso angel that is hanging from the ceiling and the eyes move around they're looking at you that's when we're talking about the fashion cafe and it's like there's animatronics of the models i'm like is it like how there's technically consider you could consider this an animatronics of the models i'm like is it like how there's technically consider you could consider this an animatronic of chris angel in the restaurant because the eyes just dart around oh yeah maybe so maybe they have a robot we have to do we is it a robot do we rule is this a robot i think it is it's a robot moving all the time it was moving when the room was it was empty except for just a laptop someone was working out of there and the eyes was empty except for just a laptop. Someone was working out of there, and the eyes were moving on the robot.
Starting point is 01:13:07 So they have a private room that somebody's just working in, but the regular room, we still have to keep everybody in the regular room and jam you next to a six-week-old during a pandemic. Yes, and he claims that eventually you'll be able to see magic shows in the magic room, but I don't know from who when like how like it seems like maybe you could have like your kid's birthday party there and then go
Starting point is 01:13:30 back and see magic in the magic room but the magic room is pretty small it's pretty small there the the animatronic uh dummy christ angel has a straight jacket on there's a framed straight jacket on the wall so this restaurant does have themed restaurant jackets oh yeah jackets and almost all of them wow thank you jackets you really made the month um so i sat down i ordered i want to try a couple different things i got a caesar salad i got some mind freak level wings i got a pizza i got a pea i got a margarita p whoa and then i ordered a mind freeze and my waitress said i can't pour that i'm underage but she went found her manager okay and the manager said i can make it and i said okay what flavors and he's like well we usually just
Starting point is 01:14:23 do these three flavors and i said can i get a different flavor he said which flavor do you want i said which flavors do you have and he said they also had watermelon and something else so i they had five flavors five of a hundred still only five and i said i would like a watermelon mind freeze and he said i can do that and he did it oh so they'd solve that problem okay here's Here's the thing, though. They told me that the Mind Freeze, which was expensive, came in a collectible kablip cup. But what they did bring me is a regular, just a kablip, just a cup with a Mind Freeze, a plastic cup with a Mind Freeze in it.
Starting point is 01:14:58 And then they just handed me this empty. This is just a cup from Criss Angel's Mind Freak at Planet Hollywood. And he's like, sorry, we don't have our cups yet. You can have this. They moved a cup from an hour away. They moved a cup from its natural habitat. Whoa. Oh, that's incredible.
Starting point is 01:15:20 The food was not great. The mind freeze was incredible. Really? It was great. I loved it was incredible. Really? It was great. I loved it so much. It was beautiful. It came with like a little leaf on it and like a little strawberry. The watermelon ice was just delicious.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Wow. I loved it. Mike Gamboza knows what he's doing. Well, I think he does. Yeah, that will be up. He's a master. 20 years of the business. You don't earn the name master isologist if you're
Starting point is 01:15:46 a master of isology on my way out the door i asked the girl at the ice counter if mike was there oh i also sorry i i saw costa saran tacos walking around i saw his brother chris's brother was running the front of the house yeah he seemed like he was doing a good job okay also like just to say really quick the whole place is is covered in like
Starting point is 01:16:10 word murals um there's one that just is like kablip worst restaurant name of all time Beatles worst band name of all time
Starting point is 01:16:18 like really hostile like uh trying to own the the he's trying to do sort of a tommy was so who he kind of resembles i would say he's trying to like no i know it's a bad movie he's like yes that was all
Starting point is 01:16:33 the plan you see so i asked the girl first of all i said hey that that place that opened september first on the strip where you can get all the ice where is that because i'm going back to the strip and she was like that's not real admitted it these people are they are honest wait she just was like this is not she just kind of shook her head and then i asked if mike gambuza was around and she said mike no he comes in the morning if you come back in the morning you can meet mike so i'd have to come back for B. But they opened really early, and I was like, I cannot. Now knowing how far it was, I was like, I can't. Someone else has to do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:14 You got it. Well, like, Wollner's going to go at some point, right? Wollner's can meet Mike. But I asked, or someone else has to get breakfast. But I asked, like, is Mike Gamboos a nice? And she said Mike Gamboos is so nice. Yeah. Wow. Wow. We love this guy now. He is. He's a good guy. But I was like Is Mike Gambuza nice? And she said Mike Gambuza's so nice Yeah Wow We love this guy now
Starting point is 01:17:27 He's like my favorite guy He makes ice Mike Gambuza We gotta go down to the place We gotta go get this ice Yeah In Los Angeles Oh yeah
Starting point is 01:17:38 Well yes you're right We can have the ice Without going all the way To Moapa Valley Cause they closed the Rita's Water ice Right by where Jason lives. It's his favorite place in the world.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Closed. Let's go get his ice. Let's get Mike's ice. Mike's nice ice. So that was my experience at Kaplip. Just a couple more important things that happened in the six month period. Because Chris Angel had a very crazy 2021. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:06 October 23rd, Chris got covid um and he put a lot of videos out of himself getting monoclonal antibodies from a doctor's office and he kept me the same i mean the doctor's first and last name dr constantine george and scott you you actually found this it's in the notes, the review you found of Dr. Constantine George. Oh, I don't remember this now. It's on my, it's on, here. Okay, okay. Let's see. Oh, thank you for the opportunity here.
Starting point is 01:18:33 Oh, that's right. Yes, I remember this. Okay. What? One star. If I could give this business negative stars, I would. Doctor is cold to his patient and staff. Talks badly about his patients to his staff
Starting point is 01:18:45 heard numerous times he doesn't care who he mistreats whether it be a staff member or a paying patient this man has the heart of a dying fish and his hands have a similar texture he spends less than five minutes with you does not address any of your concerns and clearly is only in it for the money i will report him to the bbb this is who is treating chris angel's covid dr constantine it's just the theory sorry the theory that if chris angel ever like puts a anything out there if you just google any proper noun in it you'll find like the craziest thing you've ever he doesn't associate with anyone normal even for his medical needs is the doctor also a magician i hope so yeah he also he is a pediatrician which i found was weird so i think he might have been in his own kid's pediatrician's office staying overnight getting antibodies from a guy with the hands of a cold dead fish that was the trick it was a dead fish and then november 5th he has a baby chris has another baby
Starting point is 01:19:53 and finding that out right after the cove wait a minute and so you were like in the good in the hospital with covet and then had a baby like two weeks later and it's and they named the daughter lucia angelina which you'll remember mike what was the name of uh what was it the coffee coffee brand coffee brand first daughter later you could see it the other way yeah this seems like a common thing my wine brand after my daughter coffee you're not making money off the coffee first and then oh you know what else should have that name my child i had a human bag of elusia that i bought at kablip and i was we were drinking it and then the instagram comes up and then my daughter elusia i look at the coffee i'm like that's what i was
Starting point is 01:20:45 like you're he's fucking with me like he knows i know yeah he knows i have this coffee like why would he do this to me it felt personal also just with a level of normal that we're at where the beginning of the story is i had alusia that i bought at kablip after i saw cost Seren Tacos. But I didn't see Mike Gambuza. But I didn't get to see Master Isologist Mike Gambuza. Who is nice. But I hear he was nice. Just a couple things too from this View On magazine, which I got at Kablip.
Starting point is 01:21:17 There was a big pile of free ones. So this was supposed to coincide with opening week. Right. And this is where I'm like, he does... One thing that's interesting about Chris is that he just says stuff and no one fact checks it. So it just says like, not only did Angel remodel the existing restaurant location in just six weeks, he also plans on opening up to 20 more locations in the next year. In areas including Arizona, Nevada,
Starting point is 01:21:45 and California, the restaurant will also feature a youth job program and a free meal outreach program for underprivileged and pediatric cancer families.
Starting point is 01:21:54 Angel also wants to manufacture cobblip ice dedicated to the gourmet Italian ice made and sold at the restaurant. And then he goes
Starting point is 01:22:00 on and on about that he's also opening um, wait, where is it? Criss Angel's Escape Camp? The Escape Ranch. The Escape Ranch. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:22:11 But I've seen it also called the camp. We also don't know the branding. Is it a ranch or a camp? This is a common thing, too. Jackets are common for this whole month, but also very common are these big, bold proclamations about the expansion of the restaurants. Yeah. From Dive to Grandpa's Restaurant.
Starting point is 01:22:30 Both of those were like, we're expanding in the future. You watch out. Here we go. Like, this is going to become a whole thing. Yeah. And then, no. The Escape Ranch will be a place where families that are going through a difficult time
Starting point is 01:22:41 can escape for three days and two nights. So it's not like an escape room. It's not something you escape from. It's something you escape to. It's like a get kids the world, but it sounds horrifying. It's in the desert by Kablip. At this camp, they will enjoy the use of side-by-sides,
Starting point is 01:22:56 stay in a fifth wheel RV, and be able to eat completely for free. There is no set opening date for the ranch. So it's just like a bunch of claims. And then what's really funny is that this article is like four pages. And then in the middle, there's this big yellow stamp over Chris's face. It says that closed three days after it opened and they don't know when it's
Starting point is 01:23:13 going to reopen. Editor's note. So they'd gone enough to go to press, but just right before they went to press, they had to stamp this thing on here being like, sorry guys, it's closed. So like an editor got like in the middle of the night, like a phone stamp this thing on here, being like, sorry, guys, it's closed. So, like, an editor got, like, in the middle of the night, like, a phone rings, and it's like, hey, we got to do something for this story that's coming out tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Oh, shit, what do we do? Sometimes I hate working at Malapa Valley's V1 magazine. The news moves so quickly out here. We always have to print a sticker retraction. Let's stick something over an article oh my god this guy they have also like a lot of merch for sale um they don't have jackets but they have really like kind of offensive shirts oh yeah that's just white text on black it's a shirt what they put on the website it doesn't even look like they've ever made one practically it seems
Starting point is 01:24:03 like very you know like those they're not like ours you got our team public and they exist uh but i don't think these have these ever been made it's just yeah rendered it's a rendered like shirt i think there was one hanging on the wall when i was there okay but they didn't look good that's everything's like my favorite there's like different ones that say like don't wine drink beer kablip or like but my favorite just says on the back it says kablip breakfast lunch pizza on the back it says for a good time call 702-397-8084 so it's just the phone number for kablip it like doesn't spell anything they just assume like someone will see you wearing the shirt and remember the phone number long complicated non-specific yeah yeah oh my god um there's a video they uploaded a couple of youtube has i think they call them shorts and they're it's clearly trying to be a tiktok
Starting point is 01:24:58 competitor but there's one video it's only a few seconds long of a waving american flag and it's labeled never forget but there's no sound and it's not really i couldn't figure out how see i'm assuming it was for 9-11 because there is one comment on it that just reads too bad the government knew it the whole time george bush just sat and calmly read that book to the children while it happened that's the proof that he didn't react him being stoic for the children is the proof that like i know i don't need to that's the proof because i planned it i pushed the start button administrators of web of like channels can delete comments they just left up a 9-11 truther there was also the point in time do you remember even
Starting point is 01:25:44 how when everything was going wrong and they were closed for a long time, they're figuring out refrigeration and food, but they did install a flagpole. And he's like, look what just happened. Bam. He's being all braggadocious about that. It was so confusing in the photo. In our text, I commented like, what is the picture showing? What is he?
Starting point is 01:26:07 And somebody had to explain. It's that there's a flagpole now. Oh. So the tweet is, this happened today, flag. Go big, gist, or go home. Hashtag Moapa Valley. Eat blip. I hope to reopen soon with more freezers, refrigerators, ice cubes cubes and a talented welcoming staff you didn't
Starting point is 01:26:26 have ice cubes talented welcoming staff oh that's a big implication and then if you slide through there's a second picture which is concept art of the flag it's concept art of what if we had a flag it came true much taller in person, though. So they did best to the concept in one regard. Aesthetically, just to say one, but I don't know if it was any different in person. But that way that it where it's just like white walls with this mean black text that in some cases is what the shirts are also saying. And then that big McDonald's red, uh,
Starting point is 01:27:05 and tables just kind of jammed together and they are like steel and metal. I mean, it, the pictures don't do it justice. Maybe there's something I'm missing that you get in person. There's a big, there's a big mural of Chris with his sons in the desert. There's also some screens showing Chris magic.
Starting point is 01:27:23 There's also some mirrors that look like they might be two-way mirrors, but I don't know what they're for. Also a theme of the month. They don't go to the bathroom. On the patriotic kick, I was also sitting by the baby, but facing a man wearing a shirt that said all rifles matter. Oh, good. Oh, good.
Starting point is 01:27:41 I feel like I couldn't find the picture, but I feel like there was a yelp comment or some sort of where someone said like oh i'd love to come but i don't want to wear wear a mask everywhere and they're like don't worry we're proudly a mask free establishment which doesn't seem to be the case because there's plenty of footage of the staff wearing masks oh yeah but that might have been the slim period of time after vaccines were widely available where they're like no masks and then there was the delta surge and las vegas and surrounding areas were like we have a lot of tourists here everyone put your mask back on
Starting point is 01:28:15 they were following protocols yeah and all over vegas i thought it was very good uh before we get to my final thing yes mike do you want to do a quick quiz of guys oh yeah please okay who is ed bible oh i know ed bible was uh okay ed bible was early on oh shit he was right uh he was the chef right that's right. Yeah, with the rice and the chicken. Who's Lucia? Lucia is a coffee and a daughter. Yeah. Who's Costa Seren Tacos? Oh, shoot.
Starting point is 01:28:54 What aspect of the meal was she in charge of? Costa Seren Tacos. What's his brother? Oh, that's right. Damn it. It's okay. It's okay. You're doing great. I wasn't paying attention
Starting point is 01:29:06 Who's Mike Gambuza? Well the nicest man That makes the nicest ice Who's Constantine George? The doctor Who gave him Regeneron Who is Mike Barham? The pizza guy?
Starting point is 01:29:20 Yes Slash a pizza A pizza man A fucking pizzaian Mike He's a pizza extraordinaire Wow By the way also just because i was going through the menu and there's i mean there'll be some recurring people from that but like there's they do so many like so-and-so's famous this so-and-so's that and i i can't i
Starting point is 01:29:41 just wrote down anybody who gets a meal named after them on the lengthy menu costa elusia christos yanni sean jc jd tommy boy grandma yeah yeah and mike so these are there's so many guys to learn over the course of it's mike's what's item? I'm not sure. I gotta go to the menu. Wait, what's the grandma? Grandma Yee-a-Yee-a? Grandma Yee-a-Yee-a. Here, I can find out if you give me a minute.
Starting point is 01:30:10 Mike, come on. I deserve that. I just want to know who she is. Okay, Mike is homemade Parmesan. So that might be Mike the Pizza. Unless it's Gamboza.
Starting point is 01:30:21 But those are both Mike's, right? Yeah. I did like that because it was Parmesan, side of pasta, two garlic knots. And I was like, that's everything you want. That's pretty smart. That's good, yeah. You also got spaghetti for you.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Wait, for you? Like the Paul McCartney song for you? Like F-A. Oh, F-A, okay. Paul's is F-U-H. What are some other funny names on the menu? Let's see. You got the section called You're Getting Sleepy Appetizers. Sleepy is crossed out.
Starting point is 01:30:52 And no, you're getting appetizers in a font that suddenly has serifs, but is the same color. There's like a breakfast combo that's called Mindfest. The ultimate breakfast combo is called mind fest um i missed a name did i say shawny i think i might have missed shawny yeah there's so many names wife uh sean sean is his is either his wife or it's johnny christopher's mother okay oh i said sean but not shawny are those different people i can't tell salads for the stars and then there's a picture of his star on the walk of fame there's sandwiches raps and rock and roll
Starting point is 01:31:30 and raps is not spelled with a w it's spelled r right um which has things like the rock and roll zinger and overton rap spelled with an r like a rap song overton rap one of the videos uh that's like a montage it's either a couple of bits open or blood plastic clothes um there's a very quick clip where it flashes the the phrase food god and then it's uh johnny it's chris angel and a guy uh food god is the nickname of this guy jonathan chibon is that how you do you know who this is no no he's in the kardashian sphere jonathan chibon okay chibon he shows up in the kardashian like circle so it's him and chris and he was clearly making a video with him in some context and they're around a big kablit pizza and they do one of the
Starting point is 01:32:18 weirdest things i've ever seen when you're picking up a slice of pizza they grab them with one hand and they immediately turn them vertical because they were trying to show the cheese stretching but you could tell it's cutting away because the turning a fresh out of the oven slice of pizza vertical you can see it's all just falling off and they cut right before that happens but i can see it on the top they have to start to fall to the right off. But cheese don't stretch on no couplet pizza. I can tell you firsthand. Okay.
Starting point is 01:32:51 So there's one thing I've been wanting to share. Yeah. And here we go. Okay. Hi Eva. This is Mike from Carlos Gourmet Italian Ices. I just wanted to reach back out to you. I got your message online and I'm so glad you came out.
Starting point is 01:33:04 Actually, this had our ices in Las Vegas at Kablip. You can call me. My name is Mike. You can call me anytime. Leaving them.
Starting point is 01:33:11 What? Call me anytime? That's so nice. Mike Gambuza. Mike Gambuza. What? I got in touch with Mike Gambuza
Starting point is 01:33:19 through the website. Whoa. He called me. He's in my phone now. Oh my God. Wow. Did you save the contact? Mike Gambuza. Oh yeah. he's in my phone now oh my god save the contact my campus oh yeah it's on my phone is my campus um so yeah i wanted i had a plan to try to get um some some
Starting point is 01:33:36 ice oh but the ice actually isn't available in la right now it can only be shipped he was the website just means that he can wholesale ship to la which means i would have to rent a commercial freezer to hold giant tubs of ice um i actually ran into this because i was trying to figure out where to buy martin's potato rolls in los angeles and it is only available for restaurant supply i mean you could think about like maybe you could get rid of enough of them. If you got like a thousand Martin's potato rolls. That's true. I start, you know, reselling.
Starting point is 01:34:11 This is all frustrating, but I do just want to remind everybody, you can still get Mariah Carey's cookies for approximately $5 a cookie. As far as you know. I don't know by the time you said, yeah, that was weeks ago. We don't know.
Starting point is 01:34:29 So I didn't get the ice but i did get a nice 20 minute conversation with mike ampuzo where he outlined some hopes and dreams well first of all he was like how did you find me and i said you're on the website and then also you could just google and then your name's on the other website and he he was like, Oh, you're a detective. Um, and then he told me that currently you can't get the stuff in LA, but that there's a future plan. It was kind of like the one in, um,
Starting point is 01:34:54 you on, uh, to ideally be shipping the ice under the cablip name from Vegas pretty soon. So fingers crossed, we'll all be in deep in ice at some point soon and he also told me that um they're planning on five new clip locations in the next year down from 20 okay more manageable i mean who knows um but the most important thing that he said was he asked me
Starting point is 01:35:20 because then he goes like wait wait wait because this is like he goes like what wait you went to overton you live in la and i was like yeah and he's like what wait what and i was like you went all the way there and i was like yeah i'm a i'm a chris angel fan he's like listen to me chris angel is a good man he's such a good person and he just went on and on about like what a good guy chris angel is he's like we grew up in a similar part of town. He's really loyal to his friends. He takes care of lots of kids. He does all that. What a good guy.
Starting point is 01:35:52 What a good guy to work for. And so I walked away just like, I mean, I trust Mike at this point. And he says, Chris is a really good guy. So what better way to close out restaurant celebrity than with a guy who's not a bastard. With a good guy. We've been talking about guys, but maybe he's not a guy. Maybe he's a good guy. Like, we're good boys.
Starting point is 01:36:14 Sometimes guys can be good, and then we can sign off on them. That sounds like a men's rights thing going on here. But the idea that he makes... Allow me that like. Yeah. Allow me to continue. Yes.
Starting point is 01:36:28 He's a maniac. He makes stuff up. He makes terrible decisions. He does stuff before he thinks it through. Maybe he gets like antibodies from like the worst possible doctor. He names his daughter after his coffee. But at the end of the day, like, he's a good guy. I like, that's my thesis.
Starting point is 01:36:48 That's great. Chris Angel's a good man. And he was, we know that Mike is a good guy. So then obviously his word was trustworthy. Somebody said he was a good guy and he says another guy's a good guy. That means they're all good guys. Well, yeah. And some of those other guys, like, if they're swindling from other swindlers,'s like well kind of a lateral mood you know like kind of evens the score sure yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:37:11 and i have these gifts for you guys to commemorate celebrity their kablip beer koozie yes oh i'm so honored from the site they say don't wine drink beer and then the an even worse logo that i've seen in before because the c's under the blip and the c is inside multiple versions of the logo yeah this is like the worst one so this is for you guys to for your beers wow yeah yeah i'll be the beers for us guys yeah for the guys good guys wow wow that's incredible and what a journey what physical journey that you've been on a turn like the manson book um i also want to say like just i looked up just to make sure because you know we're talking about oh some stuff doesn't make sense i looked up the menu for the old restaurant too what was that like and it there's look there's some inconsistencies on that too so
Starting point is 01:38:06 i think there's an improvement here whoa okay like it says sugars and it's kind of a vague like vague like low it's like a sign like not seinfeld but almost like a 90s logo it's hard to see it but anyway uh part of the menu says breakfast then one plate says home plate hamburgers. Okay. Baseball, right? That seems like where we're going. And then it goes to first inning. Okay. That's appetizers and soups. Great. This is a baseball themed place.
Starting point is 01:38:33 And then it says the part where they have steaks, the main event. That's the page called the main event. That's not in baseball. The game is the main event. No, they never call a baseball game the main event it's time for the main event that's boxing or pro wrestling yeah so this look at this this is all over the place touch up that's what i'm saying come in and add these special touches exactly um including and this doesn't top that you talked to Master Isologist Mike Gambuza,
Starting point is 01:39:09 but I also, I put in a call to Kaplip several days ago because I was curious about one thing that we missed, which is the love table. They have a magic room and they have a love table and I could find no further information about the love table. And I called and it was a similar, yes. And it was a similar situation to you with the drink where I was handed from a young girl to a manager who, uh, I just asked a couple of details about the love table.
Starting point is 01:39:34 And he said that mainly, well, you know, the tables are all kind of close together. So the love tables, uh, you know, you got, you got more space, you're removed from everybody. So that's what, so it's, and I said, oh oh is it kind of off to the side or in another room and he said no no it's it's in the middle of the restaurant actually but but and it is a type of granite that lights up and glows whoa yeah yeah so that's pretty good and i said he asked if i wanted to reserve it i said oh i'm still figuring out when i might be there uh is it like a problem to get it? And he said, no, no, no. So another good guy, another, you know, they had to, I think, Chris had to come in,
Starting point is 01:40:16 apply these magical things, a weird upside down, starting around guy, a wonderful love table. Boy, it would be wonderful if we could all be at the love table together because we love having you, Eva.
Starting point is 01:40:30 Although I don't think four people could fit at the love table. I'm almost sure that four people could not fit at the love table. We could do the magic room, though. I would love to do that.
Starting point is 01:40:37 Yeah, that's what you would. What about by your own criteria? How do you judge Kablip for this month? Oh, interesting. Well, we've been doing this we've been saying is there a way to oscar it up which is stuff that you add to the top of stakes right is there possibly a way to to oscar it up well besides generally it like knowing that it
Starting point is 01:40:56 works okay you didn't seem to recommend the wings or pizza or the salad or the salad you didn't take anything to go for your your husband you didn't take anything to go for your your husband you didn't take anything to go no i would have recommended i also would have liked a metal silverware as well it was still plastic um the food in general i think could be plussed up and i would like to be have all the 100 flavors are on the uh carlo's italian ice website and i would like to be able to have all 100. Yeah, I mean that's too much. Like a Rita's or a Joe's usually has like 15 to 20 flavors
Starting point is 01:41:30 that they rotate and they when they're out, you know, they're out for the day but like, man, 100. That seems like you would want the whole restaurant committed to ice. I would love if it was an ice restaurant. That might be the way to go. Kablip ice. Kablip doesn't stand for to go. Ka-blip ice. Don't,
Starting point is 01:41:45 Ka-blip doesn't stand for anything anymore. It's just, it's just the word. It's like Epcot. Yeah. Let's transition back. It's about the spirit
Starting point is 01:41:52 of it doesn't matter what it stands for. We don't even remember. In the ice, there's Fat Tuesdays every half a block, like a nicer Fat Tuesdays like that you carry around
Starting point is 01:42:01 and get a little buzz. Yeah. Carry Carlos everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. little buzz. Carry Carlos everywhere. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Send Mike's kids to college. Help the doctor get a surgery so that his hand isn't like a fish anymore. Let's help all the guys.
Starting point is 01:42:16 All these guys need our support. Send ice to the escape camp. All the kids who are escaping to there need ice. Give money to master iceologist Mike Gambuza to create an ice camp to teach kids how to pass along his ice tradition. We need to help kids who don't have a place to go and don't have a path in life.
Starting point is 01:42:38 Give them the path to become a master iceologist. Gambuza's ice camp. Jason, would you take an apprenticeship with Mr. Gampuza? It's in Rekonkoma. That's where he lives. Where? Rekonkoma? Is that the name
Starting point is 01:42:57 of the town in New York? Oh, in New York? Rekonkoma? Yeah, I never know how to pronounce it. He lives there, the place with the weird name. Sheridan Apprentice Isologist. The Isologist's Apprentice. Wow. That's a movie.
Starting point is 01:43:12 I have been. Extended Family used to run a couple of Rita's franchises back in Pennsylvania and we would go and hang out behind like they had a couch and a TV. Well forget everything you've learned. We're slapping it out of you. You're starting fresh. This is all going to be new.
Starting point is 01:43:27 This is going to be fresh. Master Mike. This is going to be like a, he's not going to want to train you. It's going to be like Anakin and Obi-Wan. I just know you got to turn that ice over. Like, I'm wondering how long the ice is staying in those freezers. Because a few days in a freezer, ice starts to, you know, get a crusty layer. It just gets freezer burn.
Starting point is 01:43:47 Call him up. That's why he needs to open the storefront and the strip. Yeah. I want to go. Yeah, yeah. Well, I want to see Jason trying to turn the ice over too quickly, like conducting a bunch of ice that comes magically to life. And then suddenly there's ice exploding out of every
Starting point is 01:44:05 every piece of equipment but then there's too much ice and Jason starts to slip Bellagio fountains then across the way the ice you know the ice capades the ice some sort of ice show it's built you know
Starting point is 01:44:21 and then a silent glowering Mike Gambuza in a tall wizard's hat shows up. It's like, boom, boom. No, no, no. I'll take off the iceologist hat, sir. Take the scooper out of my holster. I'm sorry. Boom, boom, boom.
Starting point is 01:44:39 It, of course, all ends just like on Mustafar in Revenge of the Sith with you fighting mike gambuza you know some sort of a duel instead of love it's the opposite of a lot mango ice it's reverse mustafar it's an ice planet it's a sweet ice from the planet alusia you were the chose mike gambuza cuts you in half You were the chose at once. You were the chose. My kombucha cuts you in half. You end up hanging upside down from the magic room instead of Chris.
Starting point is 01:45:16 Where do you guys get those things? Those are pretty realistic. Yes, they are. Oh my God. Geez, what a journey This entire month And it's really made it Having you with us Telling us this story You know not every celebrity restaurant story
Starting point is 01:45:34 Is closed Some are even just beginning And we encourage you out there to drive to Moapa Valley Look for Mike Look for all our friends costa and chris and uh and everybody live your kablip story it's still happening uh and uh boy all of these have been so wonderful especially the ones you joined us for even anderson you survived celebrity you just survived i don't know if you know this you just survived your 10th podcast the ride the
Starting point is 01:46:06 first non-ghost boy guest to reach 10 episodes to reach double digits thank you so much i'm so emotional thank you guys oh my god it's my favorite podcast i'm so uh so grateful that you had me and i'll come back a million times i love it so much thank you please please do your frequent presence on it and your support of it oh my god from the beginning even when you're not on it you listen and you tell us stuff that you like and it encourages us and I it's
Starting point is 01:46:36 you being a part of all this makes it so so thank you I do have something to plug this month yes for this final episode I wrote on the Apple TV drama, We Crashed, which premieres in two and a half weeks, March 19th,
Starting point is 01:46:51 with Anne Hathaway and Jared Leto. It's super fun. It's about WeWork and the rise and fall of Adam Neumann. Jared Leto's wild in it. It's really, so Anne Hathaway, and check it out.
Starting point is 01:47:04 What a guy, the WeWork check it out. What a guy, the WeWork founder. What a guy. It's a super funny story of the tech stories. It's one of the weirdest, craziest ones, I think, so.
Starting point is 01:47:14 Were you like, was there a lack of confidence on your end that you could write for and tell the tale of a long-haired businessman with lots of insane ideas and bad instincts?
Starting point is 01:47:24 A weird grating accent. in a very strange way of speaking oh man um oh geez great i can't wait for that so excited to see it uh and yeah thank you for all of celebrity this is wonderful uh we turn back to podcast the ride we'll see if we can we can manage it uh uh we'll start saying the names again but i'm sure but there's still more guys to come we know that there will be uh you can find us on the socials at podcast the ride merch is available in our t public store uh thanks to aaron gerdner for the celebrity logo for three bonus episodes every month check out podcast the second gate at patreon.com slash podcast the ride ride, uh, a great month.
Starting point is 01:48:05 I had a really good time. I can't think of any way to Oscar it. Neither can I. This has been a forever dog production executive produced by Mike Carlson, Jason Sheridan, Scott Gairdner, Brett Boehm, Joe Cilio, and Alex Ramsey. For more original podcasts, please visit foreverdogpodcasts.com and subscribe to our shows on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Keep up with the latest Forever Dog news by following us on Twitter and Instagram
Starting point is 01:48:42 at Forever Dog Team and liking our page on Facebook.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.