Podcast: The Ride - D23 2024 Breakdown

Episode Date: August 12, 2024

"D23: The Ultimate Disney Fan Event" has come and gone. We breakdown all the announcements, musical numbers and confusing video game tie-ins. Plus: we tally up the wins and losses from our Betting on D23 Patreon episode. Listen to find out if Jason is now swimming in cash and ice cream. "Betting on D23" episode is up at: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide  FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Forever! Dog! in dirt. So, say a quick prayer for Muppet Vision 3D, then dive into our 2024 D23 Parks Panel Recap on Podcast The Ride, currently recording in a quadruple steel reinforced bunker to make sure Deadpool doesn't get in. I'm Scott Gardner. Mike Carlson's hiding here with me. I'm here and I'm scared. Scared of quips. Scared of snide remarks. Some of his ideas are a bit unorthodox. They might not

work for our show, Jason Sheridan. I'm so sorry. I misunderstood the directive. I left the door wide open so Deadpool could get in. No! Ding dong, motherfuckers! Wow, I hate to pitch so early in this episode, but what if they kept Great Movie Right around,

but Deadpool was the one who hijacked the trams? Oh, shit, yeah. They would have done that. Oh, that's great. That's pretty good. Then you get a current movie instead of the general idea of 40s crime movies. Apologies, Jason.

Yeah, not that boring old crap, Jason. Yeah, not that old black and that boring old crap, Jason. Yeah, not that old black and white snooze fest stuff. You get a new guy, newer guy. Replace the tour guides with Deadpool and all the actor robots with Muppets. Well, now we're getting really wild here. Take a movie, take one actor, keep him,

the rest are Muppets, now take that one actor, he's gone, now it's Deadpool. Yeah! That prompt is gonna go so viral, I can't wait. Yep. keep him the rest are muppets now take that one actor he's gone now it's dead yeah that's true that prompt is gonna go so viral i can't wait yep uh hey well everybody uh happy sunday as you're hearing this i think we're trying to turn this around pretty quickly yesterday uh we all experienced horizons a disney d23 experiences thing and And just as that event itself was upgraded to primetime in a big arena, we are upgrading the D23 recap we've been tending to do here to the main feed and getting it up a couple days early.

So here's your main feed for the week about all of the exciting stuff that is actively happening. That is happening, barring any pandemics or end of our country, in theory. Well, not all of the announcements are for our country, so those will be fine. Yeah. Unless just the general work, anyone doing work in America is disrupted. But mostly shovels in the ground anywhere from 20 24 to 20 26 for a restriction of the blacks at the end sometimes maybe not even uh those particular dates uh yeah okay i mean

it's all right we've done we've been through a number of these and i think we've seen cynicism levels ramp up to the point where there was a lot of, you know, we did an episode where we bet on stuff, and there was a lot of the betting, sometimes successful betting, was on no announcement of this. I polled the audience on Still Calling Twitter, and there was a lot of like,

all right, where do you think we're getting such and such? Here, here, or not happening? The not happenings were huge. This is where everybody is calibrated, and I will say, from last night's event, that was not nothing. It was not

nothing. Definitely was not nothing. If you stack up the list, especially now you can go on the Disney Parks blog and see kind of like thumbnails of a lot of it and you're like well that's a lot that is a lot of stuff yeah i want to say that right off the right off the bat and also i will say because the time frame yes anything can happen supposedly according to disney people all of the stuff they announced yesterday will be, I think, completed in five years.

That's what they're kind of guaranteeing. But I don't think any date was said about the big one at the end. A lot of things did not have dates on them. No dates and also, no, this is where it's going. Well, yeah. Some of those missing. Well, there was a lot of sleight of hand going. Well, yeah. Some of those missing. Well, there was a lot of sleight of hand going on for various reasons. Sometimes, for instance, I mean, we're going to talk about all this,

but of course the big thing is the Monsters, Inc. land. Where is it going? We don't know. There's two pieces of concept art, and one of them shows something different than the other piece. It's arranged differently. Right. The Monsters, Inc. factory where the door coaster is going so i don't know if that's just like they found they thought those were two splashy pieces of art because also the lion king land going in france they said it's animated but the promo art shows the live action but they did

say animated dull tan characters ever conceived. Right. But the model does have animated Simba on Pride Rock. Oh. So that, I think, is confirmed. We get animated Lion King at that land, which is good. So I don't know if some of this is accidental, like sleight of hand, or it's like they're not saying

the date yet because they don't want to commit to something very specific and they get made fun of later. They want to show cool art, and sometimes the art contradicts but we're sort of you know they say what we're finding out is not blue sky but sometimes the art you don't want the art to be so like well don't do that because that's not going to work for the space like you want it to be visualized yeah however but i guess what i'm saying is like uh i will give them credit for saying that five year thing. That is a pretty, they have not committed to things like that in the past.

So I guess there's a chance that in five years, villains land is done and like all this stuff is done and we're onto another round of stuff. I don't, I don't believe it seems hard to believe. I was optimistic about all the stuff that I heard. And now this new thing you're telling me, I don't believe for one second. It seems saying it out loud. I don't know that i believe it i'm just saying that is what i believe unless they were saying well by in five years everything will start uh-huh and i misheard because i have a couple different people have said this i've seen people say it and i was i've talked to somebody about it and that's they're interpreting it like it will be done in

five years but some of the timelines just feel so far out. Well, what do you mean? Like in terms of like, and this is going to start construction next year or 2026. I don't think anything is starting this year. Like nothing is starting this year. Stuff will start like- No, no, no.

Or Lincoln is. Tropical America starts this year. Oh, okay. Well, that starts this year and then the walt robot stuff has already started but yeah as far as there's like they announced 2026 is when a lot of stuff or coco was starting in disneyland i think like starting construction so i don't so therefore and the way that they build i think what you're saying about this five years i think they should have said that should have been like the number five should have been up on the screens if they meant that they

would have said that would have been a huge part or like the finale would have been and this is all done in five years i don't i think if they meant it they would have underlined it more well i don't i do not if we're if we're opening bets up again sure and this is not a bet this will be i don't want to take you up on this bet i'm not disney i'm not saying no i'm just saying this is what i've heard from multiple sources so remember the harry anderson disney decade like here's what's coming in 10 years i wake up in the middle of the night sweaty thinking about it and remember uh the d23 where they brought out dick van dyke and said that there's a Mary Poppins ride coming. Remember the play pavilion. I mean, that's the Paul of cynicism that I think has to, oh, but Eric, I was the one trying to say, we got

a bunch of good stuff, and look how quickly we've all rained on my parade. My new spectacular nighttime parade. I was trying to actually give a little more optimism. I guess you were. But then I heard that five and it made me mad. I was trying to actually give a little more optimism. I guess you were. I guess you were. But then I heard that five and it made me mad. Yeah. I was trying to rein your brain. I was trying out cynicism with this one because the last few I went in so optimistic and I was just like, oh. Jason has been experimenting with cynicism lately.

Never encountered it before. It's really wild stuff. That's progress for you, I guess. I feel like I was getting hit for being this wide-eyed optimist when I was betting about D23, but then I went back to what I actually had said, and really all it was is that I thought Tomorrowland was going to happen, and it did not. But everything else I said was not anything wild.

So I feel like I was actually being pretty reserved in my uh optimism for this but in contrast to you too and in contrast to the last couple of these people are just like this fucking lunatic good luck pal keep dreaming buddy and i was like well maybe we'll get a new tomorrow land and like people are like shut the fuck up you don't know what you're talking about i did kind of i didn't say that in there, but I think, yes, some people felt it. Now, you know, I don't want to do this whole episode through the prism of the betting that we did. But if you're if you're only on main feed and you're on second gate, then you should know the last week on the second gate, which is our Patreon. We did an episode where we made bets about what these announcements would be at this panel. And assuredly, this is going to come up through the episode,

and we'll do a tally, and we'll figure out who won the night. If you want to check that out, that's at patreon.com slash podcast the ride. But, you know, we'll explain what our bets were and refer to them as we go. But if we're sort of going in order of how we experienced this thing, I feel like a brief nod needs to be given to the high difficulty of watching it. Oh, yeah. When in the past, Disney has just provided a stream,

and then we set up all this stuff. We're going to do a couple episodes based on it, and then it became, huh, okay. Something for cast members, and then it's going to, wait. Is it going to be on Fortnite? No. Only some of it is going to be on Fortnite. So now you have to download either Xbox Live or download Amazon Luna, and you kind of have to. What the hell is Amazon Luna? What is Amazon Luna?

It's a gaming platform. Some of it is free with a Prime membership. So you literally add it, like do the thing where you add a website to your home page, which makes, or add it to your home screen on an iPad. That makes an app launcher. And from there, you can get into Fortnite. So it's within, it's an app within an app.

It's an app within, there's like three or four ways to like load Fortnite without the Fortnite app. Were you playing Fortnite on Luna? What were you playing fortnight on luna what were you playing it on i have i've played i have it on my switch i was playing it on the switch but i don't have the online switch you don't have a switch oh you don't okay yeah i'm gonna say do you found a switch that doesn't have the online ability no no i just canceled it after the three months just dial up switch yeah yeah you found a third party switch on the black market yeah it doesn't have No, I just canceled it after the three months. I got you. It's a dial-up switch. Yeah. Yeah. You found a third-party switch on the black market. Yeah.

It doesn't have online play. It says Game Boy Advance on it. I don't quite understand that. Oh, you're playing Fortnite on Game Boy Advance? Yeah. Oh, okay. Now I see what's happening. Yeah, I really enjoyed watching the panel that way,

and I thought the little dots that comprise Josh tomorrow were quite handsome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Eight handsome pixels. No, I was going back and forth between two YouTube, I think we all were, multiple YouTube live streams.

The TikTok live stream was pretty consistent. Yeah, I was doing that one, and then I was doing one where there was a streamer watching it along, and it had a pretty decent stream, and then I would just kind of go,

oh, oh, ah! I would get reactions from this person and then they would get confused they'd think they were about to announce something like really cool and then they go oh whoa what what and then it would be nothing it would just be like they played a little like part of the horizons theme or they played like kitchen cabaret like they played some reference to some old oh whoa what are we getting what are we getting and What are we getting? And there would be nothing. They'd just be quiet for the rest. Well, I kind of did that when the stream got choppy at one point, because I couldn't tell it was Billy Crystal walking out. I was like, is that one of the songwriters?

One of the songwriters? One of the songwriters. Wasn't Randy Newman the songwriter for much of it? No, no. Who was the one who did like the D23 in Japan where everyone was sobbing oh Mencken? Alan Mencken?

yeah I was like is that Mencken? Ashman and Mencken one of the songwriters oh so you didn't know it was Monsters okay I see I couldn't tell it was Monsters Inc and I was like oh is he bringing out right right he was a white haired man.

Yes. I'd recognize Billy Crystal from a mile away. Why, it's Mr. Saturday Night himself. That's how I recognize him. We've all been primed to know what he would look like older because we all saw what he would look like older when he was younger. Right.

We all know Mr. Saturday Night so well. I mostly know him now as the gif with the tissue box that very cruel people on Twitter tweet, randos tweet if someone's complaining about injustice in the world. People use Billy Crystal holding a tissue box? People use the Billy Crystal from, I think it's when Harry met Sally. Oh. And he has a really dro, droll look on his,

like, hmm. All right. Don't be sending me any Billy Crystal. This sounds like the cruelest punishment. You're getting one. If I express disappointment about these announcements, and I get any,

and I see any Billy Crystals in our feed, we say blocked forever. Yeah. I guess I have to ultimately thank SoCal Haunts and Parks. Thank you for your stamina for holding the phone up through a very long presentation this went so so long

and some of what added to the length I feel like deserves a little bit of time which is that if you tuned in at 7pm the announced start time and you hooked up to some guy's phone, as did like 10,000 people. Imagine being one of the three people streaming, and then you start realizing you've got 10,000 people watching what you're filming. Yeah.

Again, I'm not sure. What was the Disney rationale? Why would they not do it? You had to log in with a Disney VPN, and then your stream was watermarked with your name if you're an employee if you're an employee put your name on it what is it why what is the reason here people's i no one knows for sure the rationale people have made online is that this is the first time they've had two separate tickets for d23 one for the actual convention center stuff and then one for the honda center

stuff so people are acting like or acting like they're they're thinking that disney is trying to make this thing such a spectacle that you need to be there in person and you need to keep paying us an extra 100 200 whatever it is 300 to go do it that's the only thing anyone can think makes sense and that is the only thing I can think that makes sense. And then they can put it up like a, well, other than, yeah, Jason was saying, like, maybe I have to pay musicians if it's streamed or something. Oh, yeah. Union musicians.

Is that why? I don't think so. There was an orchestra here. In terms of spectacle, there was definitely spectacle. Yeah. So this was a pretty elevated, it felt was it felt like more than a than an upfronts you know right yes for sure they made it very theatrical if you were there it would make sense that they are in a hockey arena sure that said did anyone want that are you do you go and

you're like oh and i also get a musical salute to all of my favorite Disney moments. Or because I feel like so much of the audience watching this, at least ourselves, and then people we know who are writers and journalists and stuff are just like, please tell me some names. Tell me some things. I have articles due. I got deadlines to meet. Why am I sitting through? Why am I watching shibuzy I I was told from people in the room that everyone liked it a lot and it was fun to be there so for some people it

was fun I think if we wanted to and we're not going to do this is go through the whole performance and I think we could all cut out for the three of us at least cut out half the music and still be like okay because like some of the music felt right where it's like oh they're playing the horizons theme it's an orchestra you're like oh this is this is nice when you get to hear the horizons theme in the honda center with an orchestra and then it's like oh we're gonna do like like a song from a lion king or something you're like i've heard this song sure here the lion like there were some things that felt more kind of appropriate to like a song from The Lion King or something. And you're like, I've heard this song. Sure. I've heard the Lion King.

Like, there were some things that felt more kind of appropriate to me or something that was like, oh, my God, I'll never hear this song in a venue like this. It has never occurred to me to want to hear Trust in Me, the Jungle Book Ka song, covered by Rita Ora. Seems like a big get for this come on rita that seems i mean there was some surprise about music that we liked i think but still it was confusing uh while we were there i definitely had no sense there would be this much music which i

guess is good if you're in person but yeah if you are the type of person who is just like, please tell me some details. Tell me some names of rides. Tell me some locations of rides. In terms of being there, I did get a message from Neil from the band Cuckoo and Happy Place Emporium, a vintage short

collector, Neil. He was like you can get drunk at this present there are sessions open great mm-hmm yeah so maybe people were drunk I guess everyone was drunk there I will also say to you both there's a media

you could have a drink and not be drunk what what do you mean there's a happy medium that could be reached it's just funny we reached to so you could be blackout you know you could be reached. It's just funny we reached it. So you could be blackout, you know. You could be there and then forget it all. You went too far. That was what we were asking the last time.

Can you get hammered? Yeah, yeah. I wanted to be front row hammered. Hammered. There you go. Looking at Josh and then like heckling him during the show. You call that an announcement, pal? Where's Deadpool?

He's coming up later. You you're gonna get so much of him uh so so i don't know some of some of the music i liked but also yeah i'm watching on like a weird like stream and like doing three things at once so i'm like all right when the announcement coming one or more things i don't know if they made the calculation that the audience there wouldn't want more like hyper specific details about things it almost felt like they were like all right here's two pictures you've heard it now we're on into a song and i don't know if they were like we don't want them to get bored or upset but you're like i think this is the room where they want you to talk about like the paint that you're going to

use to paint these rides like that feels like the audience i could be wrong but i'd almost felt like they were like partly hesitant because they didn't want to commit to certain things or reveal that they're destroying a beloved ride. And then the other half, I felt like they were like, well, this show's got to keep moving and we got to get to a song. That's what all these people are here mean, I guess if you're at, I don't know, D23 is like broad Disney fans. Right. So maybe like a big orchestral presentation. But I also feel like the same people would want a little more in terms of minute detail. Yes.

And a couple of the segments, they did a little more. But a lot of it was like, here it is. Take five seconds to look at this picture because now we're on to a song we're on to five more songs shockingly fast moving through stuff that is like what made me a gat like yeah yeah there were i would say precisely two things in it that had me just like grinning like an idiot and none of it was meditated on for too long i'll say what those were as we go um but let's let's give a little time a little time to what happened oh you tuned in at 7 p.m yeah which

is the opening act and the opening act uh turned out to be the band from the mad tea party yes which was this uh limited time california adventure adventure Alice in Wonderland, not rave necessarily, dance party type musical celebration. It's over in the Hollywood land area of California Adventure. And the year previous, it was the Tron, or years previous? Electronic. Electronic. They're like G-rated rave.

And then I feel like some of the spirit of it carried over into a very, what would you call it? I guess Johnny Depp era Alice in Wonderland aesthetic, which ended up being mostly covers of popular songs from 25 years or later. Yes. And then a DJ would do a G-rated rave. DJ White Rabbit would do a G-rated kind of rave

over in that area. But this was the band from those music festivities. And this is something we talked about on the Patreon, patreon.com slash podcast the red, a couple years ago. And I was surprised to be confronted by it on this big platform to suddenly have the Mad Tea Party to talk about. And boy, did it give us all a lot to talk about before the panel itself kicked in. Yes.

A couple things happened. One, Jason said, is this the Mad Tea Party band? Mike responded, I don't think so. They're not the right vibe for this event and i was really confused by that response because i'm looking at it and i'm like wait so we're saying it's a different band that has alice in the mad hatter in it right there's another band and then you explained i was first of all i was doing three things at once i'm watching my daughter i'm mostly listening but i'm also on, at this point,

whatever stream I was watching was far away. I could not see the band. So I'm kind of listening in the background. That comment was a joke. Obviously, the vibe is right for the Alice band to open at D23. I didn't know if you were criticizing the music you were hearing or if you were saying that the Alice band is is not the right it wasn't even that i should have if to punch up the joke i would have been like that band is too hardcore for this audience they're too aggressive they want yes it would

it would rock these stodgy journalists too far out of their chairs right yes exactly um but yeah so i was hearing it and also i know i think part of it was that they were doing a mashup that I'd never heard before. So I was like, well, this isn't them. This isn't the song. Of what I like about you and Happy. Happy by Pharrell. Now, what'd you think of it? Not knowing what band you were.

As a blind taste test, what'd you think of the mashup? I like Happy because it's playing in Universal Studios a lot, so I do like it. I don't choose to listen to it ever, but I like it when I hear it. What I Like About You, I think, is one of the 30 songs I never need to hear again in my life. Yeah, we're pretty covered on that. Also, very theme park-y, but I feel like that's in Knott's Berry Farm ads. Oh, yeah, yeah. Maybe that's part of it.

They started playing What I Like About You, and I was like, do I need to hear What I Like About You ever again? Wow. Do you hear this? Because if I didn't say properly the battle lines of the argument about Mad Tea Party Band, this is something that, at least in the Patreon episode, Mike loved. I loved the Mad Tea Party, yes.

And I never understood or got on board. Jason feels more that you round up to sell me on. I loved the mad tea party, yes. And I never understood or got on board. Jason feels more that you round up to my side. He was there with me in the shit. We were in the pit. We were in the pit. We were hanging out. I used to say all the time, go, you know what we could do? Is it rough in the pit?

Did you guys get injured? You guys must have gotten a lot of elbows. Roundhouse kicked a nine-year-old when I got spooked. He can't approach me from the sides or behind him like a horse. He deserved it is what I said at the time. I didn't know. I didn't know. It's just unconscious.

But yeah, around six or seven or eight when we would be hanging out at the park in the old days, I would say, you know, what we could do tonight, we'd get mad. Yeah. And sometimes we would. And I'd get a little grin on my face and then we would walk over there for 30 minutes, 45 minutes.

You look at the wait times, everything's bad. Everything's bad. You have a little grin on my face, and then we would walk over there for 30 minutes, 45 minutes. You look at the wait times. Everything's bad. Everything's so bad. You have a little Carthay Lodge. You walk over to the back lot area, whatever they call it. You get mad. And you get mad, yeah. You hear Alice and-

Well, I do think I would have gotten mad if I'd ever joined you for this. This is the cell that you were doing, i saw videos then but now i'm watching them play the honda center and so i i i'm coming out a little testy just reminding everybody so remember this is the thing that mike was for 90 minutes was trying to tell me how great this was then it goes on and they do covers of separate ways and call me and and i was made for loving you by kiss uh if i heard them do that before that's new they they've been learning new songs very impressed well this was your argument when i was kind of having some qualms about the quality you said well the set list is different i said oh no in the old day in the old days they never would have done call me

they might have done call me nothing is bland they've sold out they never would have done Call Me. They might have done Call Me. Yeah, they might have done Call Me. There's nothing as bland. They've sold out. Never would they have done a Call Me. Yeah. They would have been too busy doing Rapture. Never would they have done a Call Me. They've changed it up a lot.

But they have been at Knott's for the last couple of years, or at least for a year. I don't know if they've been there the last year or two. Okay. What are they called there? We've said this five times on this show show and I can never remember what it is. As long as they're not in the outfits, you know, I just can't remember the name. You can't place them.

Yeah, yeah. They're good. I don't want to insult them. They finished a song and then they said, all right, we just got a couple more songs. And again, the panel is late. They said 7 p.m. Now it's 7.20 and we're watching the

Men's Tea Party Band. In your feed, you heard a woman groan very loudly when she said, we got a couple more songs. Someone goes, ah! Ah! Like a really pained noise they made. Multiple people were messaging me about, is this Mad Tea? Because a lot of people were watching on bad streams and people were texting me about it.

Well, and we were all texting with Griffin Newman and at some point deep into their set, we lost Griffin. He officially said, Mike, I do not like this. You were again, arguing set list and all things.

This is not their, this is not their venue. This is not their venue. This is not the context in which I like to see them. I like to see them at Disney's California venture with all the weird furniture and the two big guys playing Tweedledee and Tweedledum with the accents. Sure. Well, in which I like to see them. I like to see them at Disney's California Adventure with all the weird furniture and the two big guys playing Tweedledee and Tweedledum with the accents.

Well, because they didn't just fall out of a coconut tree. They exist in the context of all that's come before. Well, look, that's never been more true than in context when you're talking about it. Sometimes it's true. Maybe all the time it's true. I think it's always true. Yeah, well, no. And I said, well, of course, rock bands famously Then in context, sometimes it's true. Maybe all the time. It's true. I think it's always true. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, no. And I said, well, of course, rock bands famously don't really work in the middle of arenas. That's not never really where they shine. And then so you're making this argument. Griffin is being firm. And then I get a text from another person who will go unnamed for our purposes who was in the room and texted me and said why does mike like this that you were this was this was started as a night of tragedy for

me i got hammered all night in different ways and not the good hammered not the hammer you could get in the honda center hammered all night i did get one uh a message of encouragement from someone well i guess maybe i'm revealing who it is, but he said, as a person in a cover band, I approve of this. Okay. So it was a gentleman who was showing support for me.

Well, this is what, you just like cover bands. This is what it boils down to. It is, yeah. And you get a lot of, I feel like these are just, this is just a difference between you and I. You hear a song being played on instruments in front of you,

and you go, yeah. It's true, yes. And it's not quite enough for me. Right. If it's a very good cover, then wonderful. But you're in no matter what. It does not matter. The music moves me so much, it can be less good quality music.

So I'm so hypersensitive to music. He's music'm so sent i'm so hyper sensitive to music he's music sensitive my brain is so music sensitive it's kind of mike's superpower yes so like you can put except for a couple songs like what i like about you and then maybe like those three wedding songs we talk about all the time bon jovi or whatever uh yeah. Yeah, a band could come in here right now, and I will just, like Jason when he smells a pie on a windowsill, I will float toward the cover band. Yeah, I was going to say Mike's music sensitive, and I'm in the corner picking at the cool down hors d'oeuvres.

That's how you guys manage a party. But everyone seeing them there makes me upset because that's not how they should be viewed. You weren't there. By thousands of people. You weren't there with Jason and I. They didn't give them all of their extra stuff that makes the Mad Tea Party the Mad Tea Party.

You could just walk into Disneyland. It was like your rec room, your rumpus room. Right, you could sit in a big plastic chair and view the stage from there and that makes it a different viewing experience than this. They've taken them completely out. They're on a little stage there, no dressing. Where were Tweedledee and Tweedledum? They weren't

there. So I'm just saying, everybody was upset. And what did they do? What did they add to, how were they going to save us? They have the tallest shoes. They were so big. They found the biggest men I've ever seen. They were big boys. We love our big boys. Beautiful boys.

Big boy season at Mad Tea Party. These two guys playing Tweedledee and Tweedledum would walk around and kind of like lightly hassle people. And it was interesting and kind of scary, but it added to the atmosphere of it. So I would understand it if I was in a different type of chair and a big man was harassing me. That would be good. Then I would understand the music of Mad Tea Party. And if there was like six foot tall playing clubs,

like you haven't lived since you had a, you haven't lived until you had a pre-made cocktail next to a six foot tall jack of clubs and a large man is bothering you that's right jason gets it he was there he lived it bother what's an example of their bothering hey mate yeah they'd be like hey mate all the way all right what's all this like i feel like there's some cockney voices yeah no i think they were like legit i don't even think they were yeah no they weren't so i'm the heaviest goons you've ever seen

to play Tweedledee and Tweedledum. I'm trying to put myself there. Okay, Alice is dressed like Moulin Rouge, the movie from 24 years ago. The Mad Hatter's hat is taller than most hats. Yeah. And I'm listening, I hear them singing, wake me up and wake me up, can't wake us, hey, man.

And then, and now, hey, mate, get out of my way, mate. You're a piece of crud on my shoe, mate. Well, you're right. I do get it. Like a Vinnie Jones type, yeah. Yeah, Vinnie Jones type. And then they switch him to shake it off, which was still pretty new at the time. It was only four years old.

And all the kids were jumping up and down. You know that thing where kids don't quite know how to dance, so they just jump up and down because they're so excited. And you're halfway through a neon pink drink, and there's a little alcohol in it. But maybe you would have better drink a Carthay an hour prior. So it's just like helping to keep the buzz going. I have to rope in one of my favorite places to drink in order to make this work. And let's not forget,

you're in your late 20s. Everything is possible now. You're never gonna die. You're never gonna die. That's the most important part of the Mad Tea Party. You're in your 20s when you're seeing them. So far, this thing only made me mad. For the first time,

it's made me sad why what what do you mean i don't know i'll look you could put i'll just listen back to that later today i don't know what could be wrong with it maybe something about what you might what you said might make you a little sad what no i'm just saying that's part of it part of it is being in your 20s well look things are still possible now that we are in our it is that's what are you again mike whatever it is whatever the number is i don't know uh but what does this mean mad tea party potentially could come back somewhere they didn't say they didn't say they didn't say it honestly the first part of the d23 panel was like fan service like but but not no i don't mean that in um

a shitty way i mean like oh it's the soren video recreation it's the man you mean the intro stuff yeah you mean the 25 minute intro where they didn't get to an announcement oh please michael it was at least 45 yeah that, what a bunch of bullshit. Anyway, let's do more mad tea party material. Let's give the people what they want right at the top. No, I, yeah, hey, I think as far as turning this into a little Oscars, first of all, and we didn't know it at the beginning, but the Billy Crystal's in the house.

And then, I mean, a cold open that's a uh like a parody or a recreation of soren with the man himself patty warbucks uh amazing that was great i really enjoyed that and i think they as someone who has analyzed that video and thought about it a lot i'm like the edits are the same they could have done this a lot cruddier and it could have been knocked out by a team that didn't have love for the original thing but it was like it was pretty pitch perfect i'm guessing they did it because they like whenever they had that other soren video a couple months ago with patrick they probably all did it at the same time it must be yeah that must have been very similar. Yeah. Kind of PR call. Right.

Which, what a clever little thing, that they got a couple pieces of content out of it. And then I think the big surprise, I thought when they aren't cutting to the guy with these little beauties, and then we're going to cut to the mouse here. I thought that was going to be a cameo from Iger or DeMauro or somebody.

I thought that's what they were building to. But I was not disappointed. If anything, it was maybe better to realize it was the same guy from the video the first time around. Yeah, that was great. I don't know who that actor is. I don't know if he works there, and thus it was easy to grab him again,

or if they tracked down this person again just for that. But it was nice to see him. That was really fun, yeah. I feel like the audience really popped for that. They did. They were pretty excited. Yeah, well, they were all hammered, so of course they're gonna pop.

They were hammered and they were riled up from rock and roll. You gotta think about, if you were there, besides the person who texted me, why does Mike like this? Everybody besides that cynic, everybody else is so amped. Honestly, they were probably laughing more

because of the rock and roll than because of the comedy content of it. Well, the rock and roll and the one and a half ballast point IPAs in them, you know? Yeah. You are describing precisely what I can drink in a night now safely. The end. I can drink a half. It's good. I like the session ones for many years because they're a lot weaker.

What do you think about the grapefruit? I still don't give a shit about the grapefruit. Wow. The bald guy is back. Jason still doesn't give a shit about the grapefruit. I still don't. Oh, and now I'm on and off medications where they're like, you can do whatever you want. Tony Grapefruit on this.

I'm like, what? Tony Grapefruit apparently interacts with a lot of medications. It's a pretty common thing. I believe. Yes. Yeah. All right, Jason, don't get medications. It's a pretty common thing. Birth control, I believe. Yes. Yeah. All right, Jason, don't get pregnant. Stay away from the grapefruit.

Yeah. Keep not giving a shit. Be careful. But then the real big opener live is that we realize there is an orchestra there and then a lot of buildup to a piano man center stage. Will it be Elton John? Will it be Josh Groban? it be josh groban no better way better john stamos a show kickoff by stamos in a leather jacket reminiscent of perhaps even literally the

same one he wore when jesse and the rippers blew the turrets off of Cinderella Castle in the Full House episode many years ago. They are, at this point in the show, I'm like, well, they're going for us, having just done a big Full House episode. Yeah, yeah. And Warburton. And Mad Tea Party. And Mad Tea Party.

And they're going for some of us with that. Yeah. So that was fun. It was nice to see Stamos get to perform for a big crowd without having to sit through Mike Love implying that he fucked his mom. It felt like a nice break for him. And then he seemed sincerely emotional about being there. I mean, his fandom is very clear.

He got some jokes off about owning the sign that used to be on Harbor Boulevard. Yeah, that is wild. He got some jokes about Disney adults, you know. Yeah. There were a lot of zingers tonight. There were zingers, yeah. Between Stamos and Deadpool, there was a lot of zingers.

I agree. I will say, generally, I will be the first to groan about the comedy content of something. I did not do a lot of groaning. No, I didn't either. Yeah, I actually think that whoever was writing this, if it was individual, if it was different groups for the different bits, or one team for all of it,

I thought, like, it was, you know, nothing I thought was corny, cringey, like inside jokes enough that, and, like, for them, a little bit biting at times, especially with Deadpool. Yeah. Especially with Deadpool. But I actually did like it comedically.

Now, do I think that it needed two separate comedy song and dance numbers from, okay, what? Darren Criss. Skylar Astin. Oh, Astin. Yeah, I don't know. That felt like, I don't know, that all was fine, but I think, Mike, you were saying it felt a little redundant. Like, okay, we're now at our

third opener. Right, yeah, I was like, Sting was always, okay, he's opening the show, the song, yeah, I guess, and now we're here at the announcements. And it's like, no, there's another host of the show you know like okay there's another musical bit yes that's where it started to feel like that's when i said there's going to be 20 songs to every one announcement for every one announcement and i bet you wish you would put money on that i certainly do that is the most true statement of the evening yes so yeah no it was at that point i was like that point i was worried

yeah because i went oh shit they don't have anything to say yeah there's nothing i started getting fearful at that point because i go they've burned 15 to 20 minutes on the main part of this presentation with just songs stamos and these two guys yeah yeah I don't know why I thought this was going to be an hour or maybe 90 minutes. Me too. They said it was going to be 90 minutes, I think. The runtime was just shy, I think, of three hours. Yeah, yeah.

But they had listed it, I think, as 90 minutes on the schedule. I was pretty exhausted by the end. I felt worn out the way I do if you're actually sitting and watching an entire Oscar telecast. I was starting to fall asleep, then they did the big final announcement, and I woke up, and then I could not get to sleep. I slept weird last night.

Well, and look, I don't wanna spoil. I don't wanna spoil, well, I understand why you'd be rammy, because you knew you were getting something big due to that announcement, but I'll hold it to spoil it. Well, I understand why you'd be rammy, because you knew you were getting something big due to that announcement. But I'll hold it to the end. Yeah. But then we start getting stuff. And let's talk about stuff that we get.

I mean, Avatar right away, right? And here we start getting into our bets, because mine ended up correct on this one, that it is Avatar for DCA with no area named more specifically than that. And we get some concept art. You know, kind of relieved to hear DCA, relieved that they didn't say where yet, and we're still sort of left to wonder. But I guess before that speculation,

this art looks great. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it is not the Animal Kingdom Pandora. We're in a whole different biome. This has been a great couple days for those of us who are blue-pilled because you get all this stuff. And then the day before, part three is called Fire and Ash. Yeah.

Maybe some people had grown fond of the Seed Bearer. But if anything, years ago, before I'd made my Switch and you were kind of carrying the Avatar torch, Mike, I heard the Seed Bearer and I'm like, well, this seems like a tedious franchise to me. And now, years later, we arrive at Fire and Ash. Yeah.

What a fucking metal motorhead kind of name this rules this is great i can't wait for fire and ash oh yeah number two was water number three is fire let's go yeah yeah the uh every element we're hitting them all they're not doing like floating mountains in this but it's because it's more water-based uh uh's more like land water-based, but they have this like, I don't even know how to describe it, this like half circle sort of pattern that the rocks have taken. Like the shape, this kind of crazy

You see something like that in a movie. Yeah, it's like a crescent moon almost. Sort of on its side and like pointed up and then it kind of like shrinks in size as it goes. That's a bad way to describe it, but it's very cool looking. I don't immediately go, ah, they're not building the mountains.

Because that would be my concern if they're like, oh, we're not doing the mountains. I go, well, that's kind of a big part of it. Also, I think there are still maybe a couple floating mountains. Oh, you think so? Oh, maybe I missed it. Concept art seems to be, if you look closely, it's just not the main deal of it is couple floating mountains oh you think so oh maybe i missed it concept art seems to be if you look closely oh cool it's just not like the main deal of it is the floating mountains but i think we i think we got a couple little spots of floating mountain wow yeah that's yeah so so that just the idea that we'll get to go to that whenever we want as long as we're still

living in california uh that's awesome yes uh and the ride is boat ride they showed a little bit of it before but it looks like Shanghai Pirates that's what people are saying it really reminds me of just because I know it better than I don't I'm not too familiar with the outside of the Shanghai vehicle but I'm looking at it like this looks very like Jurassic Park

the ride oh yeah maybe big old like kind of yeah not a little calm Disney boat ride but a big big, something equipped for adventure. Yeah. And concept art is cool. When it gets dark, the darkness that, like, all of those creepy fanged creatures crawling around. You know, it still is so hard to parse really what ride system is exactly.

But it implies to me that it's indoor-outdoor both. Yes, because they show it in the overview of the land art. Yeah, yeah. So it looks like that goes outdoors at a point. Love that. That's really cool. You think maybe just one ride at this rate? They didn't say.

I don't know. I heard someone say they think maybe one smaller ride, but I don't know. I'm not sure. You can't tell from there. Somebody said Satouli Canteen, some kind of it, some version of it, because in the bottom right, it looks like there's maybe at least something like that resembling the quick service in Florida, which is good. And we still don't know where. I'll say this. I'm kind of coming around to this is going to be Hollywood land.

Really? What makes you say that? Well, so they didn't say anything about Disneyland forward. I wonder if they'll ever say anything about the phrase Disneyland forward again. Because all that was was trying to get the Anaheim City Council to agree to let them build anything anywhere on their own land. That's almost like the name of the mission and never what they're going to call the land anyway. So I'm still of the mind that when they say it's coming to California Adventure,

it could be for that land that was achieved with the Disneyland Forward program. Right. So it could be the Disneyland Forward area, which is next to the Disneyland Hotel. Like that's sort of what the Disneyland forward art was. Now it doesn't necessarily have to be there. They could just build a third park

on the Toy Story parking lot. We don't really know 100% what they're going to do. I don't know that they know that. But I kind of suspect if this is far enough along for them to announce it and then suggest that it'll be done in five years, it might be in a place that they know for sure they can build on and i've heard enough people say hollywood land now for months and just looking at hollywood land like the pathway in the concept art looks like a long

like kind of like the entrance to ho Land. Like, you're looking at, I'm showing them a Google map right now, you're looking at all this real estate. That is a ton of space, I think. And in this version, we lose Hyperion Theater. Absolutely. I think it's everything here up until, right at Carthay, it basically starts.

It feels like they're not pumping a lot of life into Hyperion Theater, so maybe they're getting us ready to get ready. Right, and I've heard people say that's going away as well, and not even in relation to Avatar going here. Now, you say there's no transition. This has been your argument? Yes.

I'm wrapping my head around this in that, well, there's not now, and then the toughest thing is going to be Carthay into this. But I don't know. If you lose all the rest of Hollywood, if you lose that main drag, and Marvel's far enough away, there's a world where this works,

and you just need to build some jungle to lead you past carthay i mean plants and water will do a lot for transitioning you can put up a big it just thematically almost doesn't feel right to transition that hard from old hollywood into pandora but if all of you're saying you mean buena vista street yes yes yeah whereas buena vista street into hollywood feels pretty natural buena vista street into uh whatever condor flats is called now the uh uh soren and all that feels very natural into like napa why all feels very natural so pandora would be the strangest thing to come out of you've just been in 30s hollywood the hollywood of yesterland and the hollywood of the future the made real you know the thing about story is that

it means so much to all of us well that's true he can't he got out of that one he wriggled his way out of that yeah that's like a that's a trump card that's a flash bomb to any argument there's a reason they call me little tomorrow tomorrow junior they do call you little tomorrow and tomorrow junior so that's the only reason i'm like more thinking that that's where it's going Lil' Demaro, Demaro Jr. They do call you Lil' Demaro and Demaro Jr. So that's the only reason I'm more thinking that that's where it's going is just because if they're committing to it and it's going to be five years, I feel like they would want it to go in a place that they are sure they're building.

And if they've planned it out and planned what it's going to look like and what the building is, I guess they could just plug it anywhere in a Toy Story scenario where they use a Toy Story lot. Did they give a date on when they are putting the shovel in the ground on this? Well, then what's this five years? Well, I don't know. I think you're holding to this five years. No timeline provided, says Carly Weissel on her Instagram.

So what is this five years? You've got to get this five years out of your head. Hey, I'm just going by with what they said. So what is this five years? You got to get this five years out of your head. Hey, I'm just going by with what they said. When did they say five years? This was people talking to PR people. Boo, that's not in the panel. That's not anything. Yeah, well, I'm just saying that's what Disney said.

Also, in the betting episode, you said they have to. They have to do Tomorrowland. Why? They just have to, and then they aren't. I'm upset. I know. Well, I'm just, this is my theory. I could be wrong. Obviously, I was wrong about the D23 panel.

I'm just saying that enough people have said Hollywoodland now, and there's enough room there for it that I'm starting to believe it. I'm not going to bet. I'm not going to bet on it. I'm just going to say I'm starting to believe that this could go here. Sure, sure. The only reason that I'm arguing against the possibility

is that i just want as much land as possible for this i do not want to be constricted but what you're showing me is a lot of land if we get rid of the theater that is a lot of land um you know one suspicious thing is that if you look at the vague mysterious map of what the kinds of structures that might be in the Disneyland forward zone it looks very much like this concept it doesn't mean anything because that's not official but it is art made by Disney

that sure looks like what this picture looks like but they could change their minds I don't know if they'd be able to lose award wieners either kids gotta eat hot dogs and you love the fries at award wieners. I like the fries. I'm more concerned about Corndog Castle.

I don't think it's long for this world. Really? I think that's fine, right? You think so? What are we talking about putting there? Well, I think the next thing they announced was Coco. Mm-hmm. But where in the...

I don't think you have... Doesn't Corndog Castle essentially back right up to like backstage? Mike, you've got the map. Where's Corndog Castle? Isn't it by? These are the questions everyone's been asking. Is Corndog Castle safe?

Look, I just like that spicy Corndog. Corndog Castle is right here, which is next to that little gift shop and then in between the gift shop and Goofy's Sky School. What's behind Corndog Castle? It's the hotel. And you're fine. We'll go with that.

All right. Relax, relax. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there will always be, you know, I don't remember Walt's quote, but isn't it something like Disneyland will never be done

as long as there's corndogs in the world? That's right. That's what he said. That's right. Yeah, maybe it's something the robot will say. It'll be great to hear the robot

version say it. It's going to sound great out of the robot's mouth. But yeah, if we're going in, this is where I was, I will say my two big grins in this was like, I think this Pandora stuff looks fantastic. Yeah, yeah. And right after that, another boat ride. A boat ride we've never heard of. This didn't come up in the betting.

We talked about the possibility of something Coco coco but with no genre of ride announced and that was more that was something i said about magic kingdom never saw coming california adventure coco uh that was a big gasp for me this is one of my favorite parts of the yeah yeah i've never heard it discussed i guess somebody i was talking to somebody else after this and they were saying they had heard it maybe disneyland but i'd only heard it in content like the idea of it going in magic kingdom in florida so yeah i was not i was like oh okay that's cool like i was surprised by that um yeah that they announced this was a kind of a big gasp at the panel i feel because they just sort of showed concept art before explaining it and you quickly see there's a boat there and then they went on to say that it's sort of inspired by the old school that it's kind of a pirate yeah uh

paris the caribbean reminiscent attraction slow moving i love i love the boat situation i love that we're two new boat rides in california california adventure is going to be stacked if all this gets done. And, yeah, look, as a fan of slow-moving boat rides, besides one notable exception, I am really happy that in this day and age we get a new one in the parks based on a film I think is delightful. And really technologically advanced audio animatronics. Oh, sure. Yeah.

Oh, I'd love to see all these skeletons. Yeah, that's going to look awesome. If we have to guess where that's going, and if it's not Disneyland Forward, I do have a guess. I think it's going behind Incredicoaster. Because there is so much real estate here behind Incredicoaster. What is the building you're showing? I mean, there's a bunch of buildings.

Toy Story Midway Mania actually is over here. No, no, no. It's over, where is it? Sorry. Toy Story is here, I think. Isn't this Toy Story? Oh, maybe. Yeah, yeah.

Okay. So there's a good amount of room here. There's a lot more room there than there is when we're talking about the Paradise. Paradise Gardens Park. We all know it. We say the full name of it. There's like no room over here. Oh, you're right. That's what I threw out because they've been doing

kind of like some Coco Festival, correct? Yeah, yeah. But yeah, you're right. That's not really ride room now that I see it on an overhead. But if it's a slow-moving boat ride, it doesn't maybe need so much real estate. And I feel like you could maybe put it in, slot it in here.

But it could just all be Disney. And you're thinking that because it's Pixar. It's Pixar Pier. Yeah. And I don't know what they would do the entrance to it. I sort of don't like it for, because I think the vibe of this will not be at all like the carnival entry point.

Yeah. And I'd love for this to have some exterior place setting that, you know, be, I would hate that it's like a carnival exterior and then you're not in the world of Coco until you're in the building. Yeah, that's a good point.

I mean, I think that's the only place to put it unless it's Disneyland forward and you go over the road and you go over Disneyland Drive. Which it might be. Maybe. I mean, maybe that is. Maybe Avatar goes there.

Maybe Coco's next to it. But they didn't say Coco Land also. That's right. So they just said Coco Ride. So that makes me more think that it can slot in somewhere. Hey, but listener, if you're over by Paradise Gardens Park, check out the bathroom over there.

It has a very elaborate Route 66 tile work in it that really doesn't quite make any sense anymore. I think we have an episode in the can that hasn't come out in which you talked about the bathroom. So you're getting ahead of the bathroom. We got a lot of content about this bathroom. I just want to remind people to go see it. And in case,

God forbid, it should disappear. There's a lot of talk about like, I will chain myself to this building if it doesn't. Jason's chaining himself to those bathrooms. That's right, yeah. I think you can fit like a Pirates of the Caribbean like size building over behind Incredicoaster. Yeah, yeah.

If they wanted to do that. So yeah, but I hear what you're saying. The facade should look kind of cool and weird and inviting. Yeah, I think there's a chance to like. The vibe should be more Coco-ish, not just like appear there. Yeah, I want a lot of time.

I want a lobby that yeah lets me marinate in that in that vibe uh do we think there's any possibility that any of what we've just said maybe particularly avatar goes into uh grizzly peak and the grizzly peak i have heard no talk of that i here's what i i sort of don't believe it as soon as it's out of my mouth and part of that is because does that not permanently change the fabric and the of and the views of the Grand Californian yeah zone right and I don't think you want to do if you're paying for that hotel I don't think you want a lot of construction for a long time and while Avatar could sort of that's picturesque and water I think yeah ruins I don't know I I don't know it's not what I would do if I were in charge of them

yeah I don't think that's happening I also think it's like I don't know I feel like they're going to put an IP on Grizzly River Rapids one of these days when they find like I don't know I guess I don't know I guess they could just demolish the whole thing it just seems like a lot

of work it seems like a lot of work. It seems like a lot of work, and it also seems like you're losing something, and then the hotel is not themed anymore to the area. Yeah, and those trees are finally – it took 20 years, but those trees grew in nicely for sure. Also, I don't want it. I love that area. I don't want that area to change. Yeah, I like that area a lot too.

I really like it. I tried looking up for around my birthday in October, like how much is it to rent vacation club points at the Grand California? Because you always hear like, oh, try renting vacation club points for a cheaper stay. And I believe it was $752 a night. Yeah. Well, you better start saving. Well, it's only $62 a night. Well, you better start saving. Well, it's only

$650 or so for the new Disneyland Tower. Now, I didn't know that you can rent points, but I also didn't want to ask more questions about this. I knew exactly what was going on in your head. You didn't have to say that. You clocked my silence. I swear to God, I go, he doesn't know what Jason's quite talking about. I didn't know you could do

it. He doesn't know you could do it. He doesn't want to open up this. We're already going way long on this episode. We know this is going to be a five-hour episode. So, no, I saw it. I saw it happen. Okay, all right. So, yeah. We moved on.

Moving on. Now, I'll say just in order of things, one of my bets was that there will be a music performance by a performer that i have never heard of i wish i declared that i get five dollars every time it happens yeah because it started to get set now i was getting worried because there were plenty that i had heard of but then we start getting into rachel potter i still don't know who the uh acapella group was it was pentatonix. I would have assumed, but I missed the ID on that one. And then, this is much later,

but boy, do I not know what Shaboozy is. And now that I know, I gotta keep going. What an electric performance. Again, a good night for Mike musically. You got a life as a highway. I got a life as a highway. I heard of Shibuzy, actually.

I don't know him very well. But I was not paying so... I forget what I was doing. I was giving my daughter dinner or something at this point. So I want to go back and watch. I do hope they put this on Disney+, so I can go back and see shibuzi do like the highway yeah shibuzi uh i knew about because jane and i were watching some performances from the bt awards because the musical performances they always go really really all out at bt awards and shibuzi i believe um kind of had a big hit with kind of a country-fied cover of the J. Quan song, Tipsy.

And then at the end of the performance, J. Quan. Let the record reflect. Jason checked his notes. That was not in his head. Jason looked at notes. I think you could hear it. You can listen back. You can listen to the note check.

Well, just to Google, I just didn't want to get the J. Quan song, Tipsy. I knew it as everyone in the club get tipsy. I remember the Jaekwon song, of course. But in the BET, so he does this performance, tons of actors on stage, there's a bar set, and then at the end, Jaekwon comes out from behind the bar, and everyone cheers, and it was pretty fun. And everyone does a rousing cheer.

A rousing cheer. Hurrah, they say, for Jake Kwan. Everybody in the club getting hammered. Hammered. Everybody in the club, that being the Honda Center. When they opened up the back wall and Mater was saying, my friend, I thought it was going to be Lightning Queen. And so I wasn't disappointed to see Shaboosie. so I wasn't disappointed to see Shaboosie.

Sounds like you were disappointed to see Shaboosie. You were hoping to see a car, a talking car. I mean, I think Shaboosie should have come out riding on Lightning McQueen. But that wouldn't have really made sense. Why was he animated? And then he's like, but my friend here. And then my friend here. And then Lightning McQueen comes out.

I just didn't even really know Mater knew Shaboosie that well. You're saying more you were surprised. You gotta follow their socials. Oh, they've been. Oh, they're always, you know, like Greece together, the Bahamas. Yeah.

Let's, I mean, let's, why don't we jump around a little bit? Sure. Let's talk about that. That's something I don't think every, like, you know what? We kind of landed on it right before it, it happened.

And this was this, this was a Mike bit, I believe was some version of radiator Springs though. It's not exactly, they describe it as something where you leave radiator Springs and it becomes more of a picturesque pastoral, almost European, uh,

car race. I don't know. This, this to me seems like this suggests to me frontier land is going away in magic kingdom this is in the frontier and like it doesn't i just feel like we're changing we're changing that at a certain point i think in magic kingdom i'm guessing because i'm like where are they at this is now we're in this weird you know we're talking about behind big thunder and actually specifically the bet was behind Big Thunder.

Yeah. Money might have to be returned to people if it turns out that these things are not meant for behind Big Thunder. I think they're going behind Big Thunder. Okay, okay. I think this and Villain's Land is going there. Okay. But then what goes away with cars? Because not Country Bear, assuredly, now that there's a new show well

we're talking about getting rid of the riverboat in florida and tom sawyer island jason that is the rumor that chain yourself to it the rumor is tom's plan again i don't know anything this is just what people say but people are saying today that the riverboat and tom sawyer island and i don't know if any water like i don't know if any water remains, but that's what the word is. And you're hearing it more and more? We're hearing it more and more. Have you been sitting here thinking the same thing

that Mike's saying, and a guy, and I talked to a guy, and you're hearing it, and there's a lot of this, and a lot of I've heard it. It's a very politician speak coming out of me today. Yeah. This is kind of par for the course, I feel like, with any theme park rumors. So I don't think it's specific to Mike,

but I know what he's doing. Sure. He's doing a lot of it, I feel. I'm doing a ton of it. Just kind of hedge your bets. There's a couple live streams I watched in anticipation of doing this episode, and then there were people on the ground,

and then there were other people I was just talking to speculating. I'm trying to keep everyone's, I'm trying to keep it anonymous. I'm trying to keep it, I'm not trying to say which streamers I watched or what other videos I watched, so we're keeping it.

I don't, because I don't want to get anyone in trouble necessarily either. That's true. If you say, if you name a name. I name a name. Well,

we already mentioned SoCal Onsen Parks, which I do watch live streams pretty regularly, and they will go to like Six Flags and Knott's in one night and keep the live stream going for the drive to it. And it is very soothing. What do they do with the camera? Huh? Do they set up a little tripod?

They have like a little tripod in the car, and they just talk about what's on the radio and say hi to the chat wow okay um it seems like a lot of work yeah well i think they're gonna read i don't know country bears and tiana and everything i think they're gonna call it something different in that area pecos bills is gonna go away probably people people in the last couple weeks were like oh maybe country bear barbecue jamboree, but then I think it's probably more Tiana's is going to go in there like a Tiana's restaurant. I don't know what they're going to call the whole thing.

We'll get to it, but they've renamed our sort of country area. Yeah, we're Bayou Country now. We're Bayou Country, which I don't care for so much. I didn't know that. That was one of the quick hits. It was during a song. I went to the bathroom once or twice. It was 30 hours.

It was a very long song. I think I went to the bathroom once during a medley. One time I went to the bathroom and I came back and they're talking about Spider-Man rollercoaster so I had to scroll back and everything. I was like, where is that going? The gesture you just did

for scrolling back was like what a dog would do while swimming. He feets what I felt. Or a cat. I had too many. Paddle back. I had all my devices. Research for it was in full effect. Oh, boy.

Never. The research for it was humming. I like to think you had stuffed animal assistants. The Apple Watch was vibrating so much from the group text blowing up. You know? Not now, guys. I'm at work. Jason's wrist is like shattered now because of the vibrations that destroyed his bones from his Apple Watch.

It's just purple like when Walter White burns the plastic off. There'll be a Pooh Bear episode coming out of Podcast The Ride somewhat soon, but we talk about Critter Country there, so obviously that's been recorded already. So forgive us when we're talking about Critter Country. But it is a good, like I guess they could call, I don't know.

Still Critter Country now. Critter Country now, but like you could call that part in Magic Kingdom, Bayou Country, I don't know. Not sure what. I don't know. I can't picture enough what it butts up against. Yeah, I'll have to look at the map. We're Bayou Country. But we're Bayou Country? I don't know. Not sure what. I don't know. I can't picture enough what it butts up against. Yeah, I'll have to look at the map. Yeah, we're Bayou Country. But we're Bayou Country. Now, Pooh is in Bayou

Country? That doesn't make any sense. That is weird, yeah. But that's weird. I don't know if they're going to... I don't think they're going to change Pooh out or anything, but that's even weirder, because I, on this upcoming episode, I'll spoiler alert, say I had a problem calling a place where

Pooh is Critter Country, because Pooh's not a critter to me. He's an English bear from an English boy's imagination. He's not a critter. A critter's a down south kind of an animal that gets up to mischief or whatever. A certain kind of mischief. A different kind of mischief. Yeah. Less polished, stately kind of mischief. Less polished, stately kind of mischief. Mike, every

few episodes, Mike starts pining for the Empire. It was not the same when the British released all their colonies. Yes, and that ties directly into me not wanting Pooh to be in a place called Critter Country. I don't know if that's going to have to be sorted out,

but yeah, we are Bayou Country now, which is fine. It doesn't mean anything. I know. I would say that day to day in our lives, it affects almost nothing. It's not going to affect a lot. But I do, I like the word critter. I do too.

That's the only thing. Yeah, yeah. And the alliteration of it. As long as we're allowed to still refer to critters. Yeah. That this is an area, but Bayou Country is full of critters, then I'm good to go.

Oh, tons of critters on that ride. There's a lot of critters on there. I think River Country is still on the list. And I want to get that hot sauce. I want to get the Mama Odie hot sauce. Sure. Where will you be able to get the Mama Odie? Is that a gift shop or is that a restaurant?

It's a glass bottle. You get it at the shop, at the Tiana shop. All right. Cool. Great. You can get it. And that's November 15th. November 15th.

Great. Pushed back a little bit because the one in Florida is having so many problems. It barely runs, apparently. It shuts down a lot. The robots are broken. Well, good. Work out the kinks there. Right.

And I think the team then, the team all had to move to California to finish setting this one up. But there's so many problems that are not being fixed in Florida. And I think people, I've heard like they're not quite sure what's going on exactly. I mean, the bones of it. Splash Mountain was not in super hot shape the last few years yeah but i think this is like robot stuff oh i think this is robot stuff and functional again i don't know what i'm people are saying uh but people like i think the way that the robots i think when you go by in the boats like something triggers the actions and stuff okay i think there's some problem with that

sometimes um but i think there's also like 100 other problems though right i think that's why that has been pushed more to november i heard people saying maybe it'll be next year but november they've announced remember they said yeah um i now also elsewhere in the splash mountain genre of attraction uh we're getting uh splash lion king splash lion Splash Lion King is happening because there is not a Splash Mountain in France. No, they never did it. But now in Disney Adventure World, the soon-to-be name of that other park,

of the second park, because we've been shuffling around what are the expansion zones there, and now it's starting to seem less and less like there's some iteration of Galaxy's Edge. The way they announced Frozen for there, correct? Yeah. With a date for that.

With a date for that. Okay, that one's got a date, and then we are getting King Mountain. What are you, I'm trying to think of a better Simba Mountain. Pride Rock. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess.

I know, but I just don't want it to be a mountain. Simba Mountain, I want it to be Simba Mountain. Simba Mountain. Yeah, I know. I mean, you look at it, and there's no question any water. Simba Mountain. I want it to be Simba Mountain. Simba Mountain. Yeah, I know. I mean, you look at it, and there's no question of what you're looking at. It's just so obviously a Splash Mountain inspired. Yes. So, go ahead.

This is sort of, I mean, it is tangential, but I was also thinking, I'm like, what else could you retheme Splash Mountain to? And it's like, I guess you could do like a Cave of Wonders and have water spewing out of the cave's mouth and have a flume coming out of it. Yeah, yeah. That's not bad. That kind of feels fun.

Yeah, but then to sort of to Arabianize the zone. Well, where it's located, yeah. It's where it helps that this is going to be from the ground up. Right. But it makes sense. I like it. I like this concept art. Everybody kind of oohed at this.

It feels sort of like, I mean it is like, not halfway around the world, but it's very far away. So I don't feel like, it's not super urgent news to me, but I like this as a genre of ride. And it also made me think, oh maybe this is like, something that would motivate the changeover in Tokyo. and it also made me think, oh, maybe this is like something that would motivate the changeover in Tokyo because Tokyo weirdly, quietly

just is staying Splash Mountain. Just no kind of nobody's talking about it. But maybe this will open, be well-received, be enticing enough that Tokyo votes to do this. I don't know. Could they do this in Animal Kingdom? Maybe that'd be fun. They could.

It's just then they have another Flash Mountain, I guess. They do. But there was a time where there was Star Tours and Body Wars. Yeah, that's true. And those were essentially the same. And I think that was a wonderful time. And if the Cars thing beyond Big Thunder is Radiator Springs, basically, which is new stuff.

It's the same ride system. Right. So it's Test Track, I mean. So yeah, I guess there's precedent for that. That's not unprecedented in Disney. Yeah, yeah. I bet the exterior of that will look different than the Radiator Springs out here. Sure.

And these both look like Splash Mountain. These both look like, like Tiana's looks like Splash Mountain and Lion King would look like Splash Mountain. Sure, sure. Maybe that's the only thing that would prevent it, but maybe not. Who knows? Maybe they don't care. I will give them credit because it does feel like,

at least this time in Imagineering, they are conscious of not just making the exact same ride on a different coast. They are at the very least dressing things up. Even if Radiator Springs is the exact same layout, it's going to be a different ride in a different location and it feels like that's common across the board it's not just going to be an indie from Japan or indie from California they're going to do a new thing yeah

even if it's the same track layout and it's a lot of the same basic stuff I wonder what the the internal feeling ended up being about uh Galaxy Edge because it is, yeah, it's odd. And what they would have if the two were slightly different and not in this kind of singular case in Parks history exactly eerily the same. Yeah, because, yeah, at the very least, you would, like, change up the restaurants in Galaxy's Edge or something.

Like, a couple things could be different. But it's like each prop is the same. It's so weird. It's so exact. Yeah. And I bet they feel like that was a little bit of a mistake. Yeah. It's very exact.

Hey, while we're talking Galaxy's Edge, there was a Galaxy's Edge mention in the middle of the Fortnite stuff. Oh, yeah. If you went deep into the Fortnite forest. There was an actual announcement. Yeah. So there was a weird tune in on Fortnite at 8.30, and then it was way later than that by the time it happened.

Yeah. And then boy, was there a lot of Fortnite time. A lot of Fortnite time. This was what occupied that slot, the Brian Cornell target, like the arranged in a boardroom. This was the thing that was the most like, well, this has to be done.

We are going to do 15 minutes or more about Fortnite. What I was shocked by was that all of the biggest power players in Hollywood are like, you're giving me Pete Docter and Feige and Filoni all at the same time. And it's for this? It's about the Fortnite tie-in? Very weird. So strange.

And Chromio. There we go. That popped me big. Chromio. I was going to say I like them, but you say pop, and I don't want to support anything that gets the... Aren't you guys creeped out every time you say popping,

or they popped, or you popped? It's a wrestling term. I'm very comfortable with it. I know, but if you take it out, imagine if you're me. Aren't you weirded out? Do you understand why I find it so creepy? If you're not used to the weirdness on this show after so many years, I don't know what to tell you. You're going to have to get another job.

Yeah, I'm sorry. That's all I have to say. I'll do my best to say big applause break. I get if I'm popping out a new phrase, but that's all I have to say. I'll do my best to say big applause break. I get if I'm popping out a new phrase, but that's it. We've been saying that for years at this point. It's never, no part of it is diminished for me. It creeps me out. I almost said it popped me hard, which I guess that's a little closer to being like a dirty

anewent. I would say it is 100% absolutely something you would say about sex. It popped me big. That's weird. Usually it just means John Cena showed up. Yeah. Or The Undertaker or whatever. And who wouldn't pop big and hard?

But yeah, no, we got a big Chromio performance. This is the first of all. The kind of music that they pull from is always so confusing to me, but I really like Chromia. I've seen them live. Yeah. It was, I would say, a lesser experience to watch them doing Grim Grinning Ghosts and then saying, y'all heard of Fortnite? Yeah.

Heard of it. Uh-huh. But still fun. I don't know. Yeah, that was funny. My kid's on to Robux now. Roblox. I have to get Robux for his kid's on to Robux now. Roblox. I have to get Robux for his birthday every year.

Robux? Robux is the currency, I believe. Oh, is that what it is? I thought you meant the juice store. Oh, no. That's Robux. No. Too much sugar.

No, but then, yeah, deep within that, I was really barely holding on there until buried deep in it was a, whoa, wait, oh, they're saying a ride thing. Okay. And that's, hey, this is actually a quietly big one. This is awesome. One of the biggest Galaxy's Edge complaints that we have not had any other missions on Millennium Falcon Smuggler's Run, and we're getting it. And it is Mandalorian Grogu.

Mike, what's his face? I'm mad. Who has the problem with this? They have a movie. Not what you think. Aren't you proud of them? They have a movie. Not what you think.

Okay. I'm upset with myself because when we were making the bets, there were two things I was thinking about Galaxy's Edge. What could I bet on? Number one, old characters in the land, or number two, a new level for the Millennium Falcon ride. You thought about saying it. And I thought about both of them.

But then I said, one is much more expensive than the other. I bet they're not going to do it. And I bet there won't be an announcement. I'm kicking myself for that reason and not because it's not my old friend. Okay. That's not why I'm upset. I always were. That was a grouchy face.

I was really mad at myself last night for not going with the other one. Well, if we're checking in on the betting here and there, that was one of your biggest mistakes. It was a big bet on that we were opening up the floodgates and we're meeting all the characters. I still think that's happening, but it was not an announcement. They didn't say it there, and it was a bigger bet, and I think both Jason and I benefited from it. Yes. Well, Jason, though, had the no mention of Galaxy's Edge at all bet. So I lost that. So that canceled itself out. He said they weren't going to even mention it at Yes. Well, Jason, though, had the no mention of Galaxy's Edge at all bet. So I lost that.

So that canceled itself out. He said they weren't going to even mention it at all. Oh, this actually, you know what? Ooh, this changes my calculations, actually. If you took a snack break

during the Fortnite segment, you would think they had to mention Galaxy's Edge. That's true. If you didn't hear it, then, yes, Jason won. But yes.

Does that mean if it was a $10 bet, does that mean I get the $10 because of the three statements I was the only correct one? What did you say about it? I said there would be no, none of any. Jason would be incorrect if he said there's no Galaxy's Edge mention. I was correct in saying no new characters added. Yeah, but then you also said you thought there was going to be a hotel mention, I think.

What? Star Cruiser? Yeah, it's a different bet. Different bet, okayhuh oh i accounted for that but am i right because can we make this ruling do i get ten dollars in this category um i guess if you didn't make the bet although i guess jason's is a separate bet so in a way it what it is a separate bet okay yeah okay but then doesn't his bet imply sorry listener so this isn't interesting at all uh yeah if the bet was no mention of galaxy's edge characters mike said yes i said no and jason said there will not be galaxy's edge at all is that his bet in this category or i it's a really good question category Is that his bet in this category? Or.

I. It's a really good question. Yeah. It's probably in the category. But then your bet is almost the same as Jason's. But you're just abstaining from even betting at all. No. I. No.

I specifically bet that there would be no characters added. All right. We all made three statements and only mine was correct. We did a lot of bad betting in this episode. This is right. Yeah. This changes. All right. That's fair. This changes a lot what's going on. Sure, yeah.

Ooh, actually. Oh, shit. That gets another bunch of money, yeah. I mean, not radically, but something. But I am mad at myself because that was absolutely, I was going to pick one of the two to make a bet on, and I picked the wrong one. I like when I'm heading into something

and feel the need to apologize to the listeners. Yeah, yeah. That's happening. But but anyway here we go this is buried in the show but a big old galaxy's edge uh this could change so much yeah and and if it goes well and then they keep doing it well that would be amazing yeah then we're yeah and they the they tie in was that it uses unreal engine as will short night stuff Oh, so cool. Whatever and I like in in the artwork They show Mandalorian kind of like zooming by on a jet pack character in the actual I think that's right part of it's really good. Yeah. Yes

Yeah Because it's like I don't like that there's things that Star Tours can do that Falcon can't. And now we're sort of getting away from. Right. We're getting closer. Yes. Because all the complaints we've had is Star Tours. There's like these moments you remember on the actual ride that you don't get in Millennium Falcon because it's a game and they just didn't put stuff like that in there. You don't get actual characters in the video part of the Millennium Falcon ride like like you do on star tours it feels like maybe they can address all of it they could truly fix the

ride yeah they could fix it i mean maybe the controls are still going to be a problem because i find those annoying still but they could do something to those but if we're not if it's not that you like get to be in a place that you maybe have worshipped and thought about since you were a kid, and you see an incredible animatronic, and then the aftermath is that you go and deal with coaxium. If instead you go on an adventure

with currently relevant popular heroes, that's a pretty big shift in just like what are the acts of that experience. So this one's kind of quietly a really good one. Yes, I completely agree. But you might be helping the Mandalorian and Grogu score some coaxial. I hadn't thought about that. Am I the only one falling for that?

It might still be still coaxial. I don't hate that. I don't hate that. That's fine. They can go after coaxial. Yeah, sure. That's not like that's the problem. Right.

Yeah, yeah. If you're running through their lens. Don't eat that. We need to go get coaxium. So here's something to maybe devote a little bit of time to, is this Monsters, Inc. situation. So undeniably good news, Monsters, Inc. land. Entire Monstropolis coming.

Nothing much said about the specific details of that, although there was concept art where people have kooky, googly-eyed ice cream cones. That seems like fun. But like, you know, seems like a pleasant little, as Monstropolis is, when they're taking a walk to work, you're like, what a pleasant little town, and it's cool you get to be there.

Then, big piece of this, the door coaster. And I saw a lot of, I'm ripping off this observation from online, but this is a big year for things that have been rumored for 20 years. Right. We're going back to some old internet rumors with a door coaster. And I remember always wondering, okay, but what are we? Are we a door? How is this going to work?

And then the concept art is pretty jaw-dropping where, no, you're not a door. You're next to Boo and Mike and Sully, and they're on a door, and you are on some souped-up, suspended vehicle that is powered by the canisters of screams or laughs. I don't know where we are on the timeline. Presumably screams because you'll be screaming on the ride. Makes sense. So, like, big old, the big tanks at the top, and your vehicle is the same color as the tank.

This is cool design. This is, like, a way to get into that world, which I continue to love and my son likes very much. All for this. This ride seems great. Yeah. First suspended coaster. First Disney suspended coaster.

Yeah, I know. That seems soney yeah i know isn't that odd it is true i the more i thought about it i was like yeah i guess they're right um but yeah this rumor is certainly like this rumor is old enough to get a driver's license i feel like yeah no it's you have long ago i mean there's pictures of the the balloons, like whatever they call them, not trial balloons, but what do they call the balloons, the height balloons? It might be trial balloons, yeah. Test balloons, height balloons. But here in Disney California Adventure, in the area with Monsters, Inc., with the Manti Party area, of course. Oh, yeah.

But there are pictures people have of like, oh, they're trying to see how high a show building would be for a Monsters, Inc. door coaster. Wow. I remember this over a decade ago. Crazy. Over in that area. Wow, wow. So this has been floating around so long.

Yeah. And it's finally happening in five years? And we get it with Billy Crystal's blessing. Yes. Which is fun. he's fun i i but let's i don't want to get distracted by billy crystal material because i think what we really have to talk about is kind of not jokey it's the most serious thing we have to talk about because this is of course great news great news for disney's hollywood which, despite having all these blockbuster attractions, still feels odd and incomplete.

So this is great. However, as I was looking at it online, there seemed to be an almost definitive groupthink that this is replacing Muppet Vision 3D and maybe even Star Tours. I don't like this one bit. It's selfish. I don't buy any, even with a new experience, I don't buy that Millennium Falcon somehow makes Star Tours irrelevant. Love Star Tours. Why would you get rid of Star Tours?

And then Muppets, come on. That's the last place we got it. Did they ever put it back in California? I genuinely don't know. No, it's still her. Is it even open? It's still her magic. God, I just never heard of that part of town.

So, I just think, why? Why do you kill two attractions when in my mind there is a real dead zone in this park, and that is star wars launch bay former animation courtyard kills me that it's a dead zone because oh my god taking this animation tour when i was a kid the heart of the park changed my life i was i ate up that tour uh and and it's so sad that it's

been nothing for a long time but it has been nothing for a long time, but it has been nothing for a long time. I feel like, how do you not fill in that dead zone? Why do you evict the Star Wars and Muppet universes? I don't know. I will say this. I didn't see a consent. I saw people very sure they knew what they were talking about and say it was Star Wars and Muppets. But then there were people that were sure it was not. And it was what you were saying.

Okay. Then there were people, I don't know what she landed on, and I saw Alicia Stella saying, rock and roller coaster. And I was like, oh, I don't think it's that. I thought that up as a possibility. It could be. It could be. I mean, it felt like there were three or four places people thought it could be, and I couldn't

find a consensus among everyone. Everyone seemed confused. And like I said earlier the the art seemed to suggest different things the different pieces of art suggested different places i pulled our audience and this is just people's like feeling i don't know maybe i mean maybe some people voting know something but when i say where is monsters inc going 65 as of this record say animation slash launch bay yeah 21 roughly say rock ander and only 13 say Muppets. This at least shows you, this is more about common sense.

I think it would be so shocking if it turned out to be Muppets. I feel like they put so much time and money into making that baseline tap house by the Muppets knowing that Star Wars was gonna be a mess. They had to have a pocket wars was going to be a mess they had to have a pocket that was pleasant to be in and it kind of in the same way of thinking uh back by rock and roller coaster that lightning mcqueen show is not that old true so to bulldoze either of those does seem a little out of left field. As opposed to the animation courtyard

in Star Wars Launch Bay, which is kind of nothing. I guess that Little Mermaid show is getting redone soon. That's the biggest issue here is that that is new. But is there a way to, I don't know the space well enough, is there a way to sort of leave that its own thing? Yeah, that's a good question. I am. Turn the entrance around, like make you come in from a different part of the building.

Right, this is just difficult. I don't know. I'm looking at it. That's an animation courtyard right here and launch bay right here. I just don't know what the size... It's a land which makes me think they need more space than the animation courtyard and the launch bay. But then you go over here by Star Tours, I'm like, I don't really know how it fits in. Like, I don't know, what does it take out?

Like, is it, Indiana Jones stunt show is over here. Well, is that a possibility as well? It's possible, I guess. I just, I don't know is really what I'm saying. Like, I look at it and it looks difficult to put it, it looks difficult to slot a land in in both of these places to me. It's all strange.

So I'm not sure. I'm really not sure. I didn't think about Indiana Jones, but with a ride going in Animal Kingdom, is that justification for no two Indies? But they own Lucasville now. Yeah, and if that's still eating people, if that's still getting the crowd.

It takes people off the board. It takes people out of the walkways and rides and restaurants. For a long set of time. Yeah. I just think in that park where the, the real problem with that park is like little experiences, which this isn't going to rectify because that's going to be another like two hour line kind of,

it's all great. Right. There's just, we're missing like, we need a lot of D tickets here that we don't have. Yeah. This remains the problem. So don't get rid of Muppets.

I know. That's, yes. Or Star Tours. They're both in that category, I think. But, like, you look at the just, this is Toy Story Land right here, and maybe it's not going to be as big as Toy Story Land, but that coaster needs a lot of real estate somewhere. But do you not just, like, kill offices?

What's behind Animation Courtyard that we can't get rid of? Yeah, maybe that's what it is. Maybe that's what it is. Yeah. I think if you look at a theme park map, what they give you in the park, not the overheads, but what they give you in the park, and it's green in the map. Green means go away. That means anything

that is green can go away. Maybe you're right. Maybe you just take out all these office buildings here and you go in through where Animation Courtyard was. I mean, yeah, maybe you're right. Maybe you just take out all these office buildings here and you go in through where Animation Courtyard was. I think so. I mean, that's the most room. This is what I want. Why do you punish

these good characters who we know and love? Hopefully that's what it is. Yeah. Because, yeah, I feel like it butts up against the perimeter of the park, if you put it over by Star Tours.

There's also very few, they're running out of room for just kind of chill area, I guess around the lake and then Sunset Boulevard, back at that opening or food court. There aren't a lot of places to just chill while everything's like a 90 minute wait, you know? True, and you're saying that Muppet Zone's a little mellow.

Yeah, a little mellow. No one's going in it anymore. Mama Melrose. I don't like it. I just feel like that might be the case. I mean, yeah, yeah. They cannot possibly get rid of Pizza Rizzo, can they?

A Pizza Rizzo-less Disney world? Why even go? Not before we do our episode. We have to, yeah, we got a lot of... Talk about long episodes. I love Muppets. I'm not saying that because I don't like it. I'm just wondering. It's funny that you said, like, oh, you gotta chill out at a place

where there's not a lot of people, and you said Muppets is that area. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, he means a good kind of chill, like the Tap House. The Fairfax area. No, of course it's nice. The Tap House. Sure. Yeah, around Gertie.

If I head to bed, I don't think it's going away. I think it's this other, I think you're right. Okay. That's my guess, but I've been wrong many times. I saw someone online going like, well, they build the animation courtyard, they can connect it to Toy Story Land, and that feels copacetic, having those two lands. Sure, that's true.

Yeah, yeah, you tie that together. Next to each other. Yeah. If anyone from Disney is, because I, you just knew, there's no way, even if it is true and it is Muppets, they're not gonna, if they say it in that arena somehow, if they say, we're saying goodbye to the Muppets, they're not going to, if they say it in that arena somehow, if they say we're saying goodbye to the Muppets,

then everybody takes the many, many drinks in which they're getting hammered in the Honda Center, and those are all on Josh DeMauro's head. Those voodoo rangers, yeah, they're going right for his head. Oh yeah, that would have been bad news, yeah, for sure. Is there a timetable on this? Did they say?

I don't think so, but maybe I'm wrong. Because Carly laid it out with oh yeah she had a whole with the dates and yeah through there um i don't think so but i could be wrong um so well i guess i only asked construction begins 2025 oh they did say that okay 2020 so we'll know soon i mean we'll know soon because they'll start demolishing those buildings behind Animation Courtyard if that's the case. Yeah.

Yeah. What else? I feel like that's a lot of the biggest stuff. Animal Kingdom. Oh yeah, yeah, that's a big one

we haven't hit. Yeah. Tropical Americas. Yeah, so Indiana Jones, Noah Harrison on stage. Noah Harrison,

they got short round though. Yeah, yeah, he was up there. He's great. It was so nice to see him. I wish he was on the ride. That was cool. He's gonna be round, though. Yeah, yeah, he was up there. He's great. It was so nice to see him. I wish he was on the ride. That was cool.

He's going to be on the ride. Is he on the ride? No, I said I wish he was going to be on the ride. I wish he was on the ride. It'd be fun. But yeah, no Harrison. That's a little lost for Mike. That's right.

We're tracking it. This was the Harrison spot for this. They thought about it. I was getting nervous the whole time. You mean they prepared it in case he decided that? Well, I think the guest conduct conductor joke and it turns around and it's him that could have been harrison could have been harrison yeah yeah but it was happy to see key you think he's gonna wave his arms around to the degree a conductor does you gotta put you gotta put

ten thousand dollars in his pocket you hooked up at Comic-Con. His arms were going flailing wildly. I guess that's true. Maybe he got 10 grand for it. Yeah, possibly. Just saying. You better have that Trader Joe's peanut butter pretzel nuggets if you're getting me to Orange County.

Are you just saying what you need to get to Orange County in a Harrison voice? Peanut butter pretzel nuggets and a bottle of that wolf bottle of Chardonnay. That he brings to a Halloween party? Yeah, he brings to Halloween. I think he could go nicer than the wolf or the stomping grape. Hopefully. I like the stomping grape.

But we're getting, yeah, Indiana Jones, where dinosaurs being rethemed. Yes, confirmed. This is another one I got right. Confirmed, but no name. Yes, I said name, right? I thought we were getting a name. I think you stayed out ofemed. Yes, confirmed. This is another one I got right. Confirmed but no name. Yes, I said name, right? I thought we were getting a name. I think you stayed out of it. Oh, okay.

Good, thank God. I was thinking we might get a name, though. Yeah, no, they kind of, well, yeah, well, some names, some no names. And this is starting soon, too. The construction is happening, so it's interesting they didn't get it. It seems like end of the year, yeah.

They didn't give a name. And the, maybe they didn't get it. It seems like end of the year, yeah. They didn't give a name. They aren't sure yet, but they're closing Dino Land in phases so that they're giving us all the opportunity to say goodbye to Dinosaur. I don't think I'm going to take them up on that opportunity. I'm not going to get screamed at by the Allosaurus one more time or whatever. I'm scared of the ride apparently, so I don't need to do it again. Maybe it'll be a calmer experience for you.

Maybe. But this should be fun, good. I mean, all of this is just like home run to me. Sure. And then Encanto, I mean, that's just the, Encanto House is something, like there's an iconic structure that absolutely has to be represented in the parks.

And then, i feel like they boy they just barely show you they show you enough of the ride vehicle to show you that it's the people will be close together but other than that i don't know it feels like a mover or i don't know i don't know it's not a big boxy trackless thing it seems like more of a ride you can send a lot of people through all at once, which sounds great. They need more stuff like that. But I don't know.

They don't really show you the right vehicle on this. This is one of those where I was like, this is so close to actually being built. Give us another two minutes. Don't give us spoilers, I guess, big spoilers on the ride, but I'm like, you could give this room two more minutes of info. I mean, I guess they did it kind of. They did say a lot.

It's, you know, it's the rainforest room. They talked about restaurants. They talked about the carousel, which is like lovingly handcrafted. Yeah. And I don't know. It all sounds very. It sounds good. I just mean like because it's so close and I'm sure details are finalized.

The carousel looks very good. I just mean, like, because it's so close, and I'm sure the details are finalized, you could have gotten a little more specific. The carousel looks very good. It looks very cool. But I did immediately think of a joke of, oh, thank God, Animal Kingdom finally has a carousel. Like, because they opened it with such, like, this isn't the normal kind of theme park. Oh.

And now... Yeah, but Dinoland was always like a theme park. Dinoland was pretty, yeah yeah kitschy and so it makes you know there's precedent is all i'm saying are we supposed is the theme park fan lot party line supposed to be that you're somehow upset that dino land's going away that i am what we are supposed to yeah what one is what are we yes the general we there is a little groundswell i feel like for like dino land is good but i don't sense it's so strong i think it's a little half-hearted i certainly people a few years younger than us look on it very fun grew up with it sure yeah but i don't sense it i don't

sense it's gonna be like if they close muppets or something i don't think it's right i don't think that level but there's a little i've heard there's rumblings of like Dino Land is good. Do you think they'll let me personally take a wrecking ball to Aladar? Will you drive the thing? You'll drive the... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll learn how to operate it quickly. I'll apply

for a construction job just in time to get to Swingard. You put on a Deadpool outfit you might be able to get away with anything. Well, that's true for life. True for being in life. So, yeah, I don't know. This all seems pretty good and a good, like, as classy a way to shove IP into Animal Kingdom as you're going to get. Like, they're treating it with care.

They're shoving it with care. They're not just... They're shoving it with care. They're shoving it in with care. I saw a picture of Joe Rohde taking a photo of the model this morning from Animal Kingdom. What if it was for his shitting on? Oh, it's his burn book. It's going in his burn book. He's going to take it and print it out and burn a big poster of it when he gets home. Some sort of ritual that he learned somewhere in a different country.

Yeah, so yeah, no, it all looks cool and it will fit thematically with Animal Kingdom. The look of it, I think, will fit with some of the Animal Kingdom stuff. Yeah, let's move back to California and California Adventure Avengers stuff. A lot of Avengers stuff. Yes, I will say the thing that popped me the hardest that didn't live up to the popping that I was experiencing was when they said- You would say it's a ruined pop? I don't know if it was a ruined pop.

Not a premature pop. No, no, no, not premature. It was the right time. It happened at the right moment. It was timed perfectly. Timed perfectly. It was just that I popped for what I thought was going to be a bigger deal. Because they said fourth ride in Avengers Campus.

And I got excited. And then it was like, cool. But it wasn't. I didn't think it was going to be X-Men ride. I disagree with you. Well, here we're in a meet your friends situation. I'm not friends with any of these people. Yeah, yeah.

These are my friends. So I just look at the vehicle, and I think the vehicle seems oh no i think it'll be fun really fun yeah it will be really fun this is way what's what's the name of it what are we uh stark stark something flight like flight lab flight lab which is you're on a you're on a kooka arm kind of thing uh so you're able to like swing around rotate a lot and it, and you are testing the variety. You can fly seemingly in different ways. Maybe you're pulling the flight patterns of different characters or suits

depending on which vehicle you get on. Yeah, I'm guessing it'll be like, yeah, you fly like Iron Man, you fly like Spider-Man. I think they're gonna do, I'm trying to think who else, Captain Marvel, who else flies? War Machine. War do, like, I'm trying to think who else. Captain Marvel.

Who else flies? War Machine. War Machine. It's going to be similar to Iron Man though. Yeah, I guess. It looks very similar to the Some of All Thrills. Some of All Thrills.

Yeah. Some of All Thrills is back. The Raytheon sponsored attraction and interventions. Really? Yeah, yeah. Interventions,

Some of All Thrills. You would program a roller coaster and then ride it, basically. Was that that one too? Okay. I get confused what some of all thrills was. And it's on a big arm like that? It's on a cuckoo arm.

But it looks like it. Yeah, you strap. It's like strapped over. But there's no car. You're inside. Can I ask, is this Stark thing indoors or outdoors? It's outdoors. It is.

It looks to be outdoors, but under a big awning. Basically, they're going to open up that wall that's right by the future Avengers ride. So you'll walk down, and on the left is where you'll enter for the new Multiverse whatever ride. Infinity Defense. Infinity Defense, thank you.

And then the ride is right next to, the Stark Flight Lab is right next to the e-ticket ride. Yeah, it's interesting. And it looks to be kind of outside almost. Like there's like a, like it'll be open air essentially, but you're like kind of under a covering or something of the actual e-ticket show building. And they said this will all like double the footprint of Avengers Campus, which. Yes, they did say that i

don't know if i'm into it i like it yeah sure i but it's gonna i don't know if i i like avengers campus as it is i think it's really gonna ruin the purity of the one thing in the restaurant scott wants it smaller yeah yeah downside actually yeah smaller cut uh guardians that rides a little showy for me uh-huh i mean the bar has lot of variety, and it's a pretty pleasant place to sit. So for a second, I was like, is he joking? Does he mean it? No, we're just finally, like, we got a land now. And also, just as a, I mean, I was maybe, I consider California Adventure my park in a way.

Sure. And just because I've, like, as we all did,'ve like gotten to be around it as it got good and as it got mad you know it was the place we went to get mad when we were young so young were we and but I'm like we got four we got four ride announcements

this is this park is does all this not if it's not already true do the four rides not get us to the point of that DCA is maybe in the top three theme parks in the country? Top two, number one, number one. Does it make it number one? I don't know that I would say one, but if Avatar is slotted in there, that is a massive upgrade. If the Marvel ride.

What is number one, if not? Is it Islands of Adventure or one of those? Right now? Just individual park. Individual park. I mean, a lot of people still make the claim that Disney... Will it be Epic Universe is a question. People will still claim and I don't know, maybe I'm one of them, that Disneyland is still the best of all the parks.

Just park itself, not resort. I think, after all this, California Adventure is better than Disneyland. I could see that argument. For an adult. Different for kids. better than Disneyland. I could see that argument. For an adult. Different for kids. Right, right. I could see that argument.

I mean, yeah. Again, Avatar blows everyone away like it looks like it will. We did a just California Adventure with our then three-year-olds. Didn't go into Disneyland at all. It was a great kick-ass day. Worked for him too yeah well that yeah there no i i wouldn't argue with that i would have to think about i would have to if i was really going to debate against disneyland sacrilegious and yeah i'm not upset

by it i think but i i get that disneyland is the best argument as far as his parks and disneyland has so many rides in it at the end of the day there's like so there's something for everyone there but as far as like feeling like big cool new stuff yeah california venture is gonna it's really gonna be somewhere in five years cross your fingers yes yes in five years we get timeline on all this no not specifically or no avengers no avengers will uh start break ground in 2025, I think. So two or three years then probably for it. And it seems like they'll be building these at the same time because they're connected to each other.

So I'm guessing 2027 or 2028. So then Infinity Defense. Yes. Avengers Infinity Defense. Which looks, which is funny because Scott Trowbridge, Mr. Islands of Adventure Spider-Man, is making a new screen ride with superheroes, which is funny.

But yes, it's called Infinity Defense, which is not my favorite title. It's fine, I guess. Not so dynamic, but okay. I look at that and I'm like, well, that's the way Marvel things are named. That sure is the way they named shit. Infinity War is cool.

Yeah, yes. Secret Wars is cool. That is all cool. Infinity Defense is less fun. But okay, fine. That doesn't have to bring us down. But yeah, they showed a little bit of that. And yeah, I mean, we've kind of covered this in some ways like it's gonna be a mostly screen ride i think

there's some practical set elements and i don't know about robots uh but it's probably that peter pan system that they have in tokyo disney and i't know, I'm excited to do it. I don't know that it's going to be like a revolutionary new ride or anything. That's what I'm worried about, that it'll feel a little bit like, yep, this is what rides have been for a little while. And maybe that's,

overall of all the stuff we've got, I don't know that there's anything that's going to physically blow me away like VelociCoaster or Guardians in Florida. Well, it's also not really what Disney does. It's true, sure. But yeah, that was the only thought I had. But yes, this one, and I know I'm just mourning the loss of the much more ambitious ride they had planned,

that I don't even really know fully what it was, but it looked a lot more ambitious. Well, I think it might have had elements of this flight. Possible, yes. Possible. That you were in little kooka arms or something. That might have been the way they did it. But yeah, I don't know. I'm excited to see what it looks like.

And my friends will be on the ride. And there were more exciting Marvel announcements in other, uh, countries, I would say. Yeah. Overall. Oh, yes. Those are, those are what, again, there, it is that, um, uh, Hong Kong is getting what looks like a drop tower.

Yes. Tower of Terror Spider-Man. Ooh. Good, good. Which looks awesome and looks like this art that we've talked about many times in the show that was going to be this dubai marvel park and to me there was a piece of art that looked like it was a tower of terror with spider-man and his web catching the big what our elevator or whatever big um box that the people were in yeah and i always that's haunted me for many many years now

if you can find that um and now this they're doing it in a different way. And they're doing it finally with a Spider-Man villain, which has been a complaint of mine about the other Spider-Man ride that we've got. It's like, where are the villains? He's got the most fun villains. But what's the villain in this? Doc Ock.

Oh, okay. Dr. Octopus attacking what looks to be like an elevator car and Spider-Man catching you with his web and pulling you back up and dropping you down while he's fighting with Doc Ock. Sounds really good. It sounds great, and it looks like, if I'm guessing how it works,

I'm guessing there's a screen in the top of the tower. Or the vehicle. You can see Spidey on top of your car. That's what I'm guessing. You see Doc Ock arms and you see doc outcomes and you so so yeah so basically i'm again this is just guess but uh guardians tower style you go up and you see different screens of action that's happening maybe a robot who knows you could have one doc robot or something but then yeah you have a screen above you or spider-man keeps like catching you

and jumping on the top of the car fights with doc Doc Ock on the top, in the front. I'm guessing that's what it'll be, and it sounds awesome if that's what it is. That's really good. That is much more exciting to me because that's a legit thrill ride, and they figured out a way to sort of have dynamic action happening at the same time. That's a good reframing of this type of ride. They've done a few times, all of the but every iteration is great yes um then uh shanghai is a spidey coaster also really good all right yeah um i mean that i think that'll be really fun but i don't know how much like actual like spider-man

you'll get because it goes outside and i see there's like they showed a piece of art that's got spider-man above you and then i think you like take off or something but i think you might lose characters throughout that's what i'm guessing i'm sure it'll be cool and fun but it seems like that one will be less like full story you're watching the whole time yeah and it's hard to do that on a coaster as it is when i guess one big downside is that several weeks ago, Jaquese Neal essentially confirmed that I will never go to Shanghai, Disney. He gave me... I walked out of that episode

like, well, cross off list. I mean, maybe someday. That didn't deter me. Not that I'm going anytime soon. Some of it seemed unpleasant, but... If you pick up cigarettes, you start smoking. Start smoking at 40. Harden the lungs. Yeah, harden the lungs. You'll love it you know, you start smoking. Start smoking at 40. Harden the lungs.

Yeah, harden the lungs. You'll love it. We can finally start smoking on rides, though. We've talked about this for years now. Oh, yeah, I know. We talk about it like, oh, if only. But, yeah, Shanghai, anywhere, I guess. But, yeah, I was like, oh, shit.

This Spider-Man, or Tower of Terror man. I know. Very exciting. It does sound a little bit cooler. And I'd start demanding that here, except Guardians is Terror man. I know. Very exciting. That sounds a little bit cooler. And I'd start demanding that here, except Guardians is pretty great. Yeah, Guardians is great. So, right, I understand why they're not going to make it.

Ooh, maybe they end up doing that over in Adventure World. Yeah. Because that's close to Marvel, their Tower of Terror. They've got to re-theme it, though. And if it's like a new, I don't know how much new technology is on it so you might. Oh that's true. Yeah. It might be too hard to do that. I'm assuming it's maybe it's not

it's something they can overlay. I mean if I don't know how any of the technology works but if you could build a Tower of Terror vehicle that is probably the same thing where it's suspended with the cables or whatever but you could tilt the actual seats inside as well

to make you look up to the right so you could more comfortably look up and see what the screen is showing you yeah and i'm guessing you could do it where uh there's like almost like two layers that makes the screen look a little more like real versus just having it be like a an lcd screen above your head yeah um but yeah if you could tilt it up as well to sort of see things i don't know if that's what they're doing but i don't know if there's anything yeah they couldn't do uh easily and retheme that's a pretty big upgrade from hard uh metal benches yes oh yeah and again i don't know they're doing it i was just trying to think of a way to comfortably make people be able to look up while they're dropping.

In the Marvel neck of the woods, let's talk about Deadpool. Deadpool, we completely called this in general. That of Deadpool appearing on stage, and boy, we had no idea that it would just become Deadpool for a long time. And let me say this, we've snarked about Deadpool, we've said chimichanga derisively.

It's not really my deal. I haven't rushed out to see this film. All that said, I enjoyed all of this. It was good. I thought it was funny. I thought it was the best musical performance. Yeah. This big performance of Like a Prayer,

which is apparently Deadpool's song now. But this conceit that he had made all of this concept art for rides that he wants to do and that he did like for this kind of thing cutting jokes like he joked about Broken Yeti he joked about

several times about Fantasmic Dragon lighting on fire these were like there's a different type of Disney company that does not like any sass about any of this stuff. And I was pretty impressed. I think I liked the comedic tenor and the aesthetics of this Deadpool appearance very much.

I agree. Did he make a little joke about like, Josh go backstage, find yourself a new sweater? Well this is something i wanted to bring up this is a debate yes debate what the here's here's let's go to our from the second gate episode uh the but we all agreed that deadpool would appear so that's the face um so that we're smart about something my bet was uh well here let me say it's better to go in this order uh jason's bet was

that he would roast the underwhelming nature of previous d23s mike's bet was that he would joke about the attractiveness of josh tomorrow i said he would appear but he would not make any of these jokes now i was getting ready to say that i was correct on this jason unfortunately was incorrect uh mike this is i think you and I have to sign off on this and turn the keys, Jason. I think that referring to, why don't you go find yourself another tight-knit sweater, though it's about the clothes and not the physical appearance,

I am willing to say that this is a joke about Josh DeMauro's being daddy. I will give it to Mike. Okay. Thank you. He also called him a dime store something and i forget what it was dime store eiger i don't know i forget what it was but and then he did make a comment about stamos being attractive too oh right um but i feel like all that adds up to i was right

yep no you're right so that all right that that's a win for you so yeah good job and you know what it was later in the segment too he actually came back and that's a win for you. So yeah, good job. And you know what? It was later in the segment too. He actually came back and that was a later thing he did. So I put that as a win for me, but we're putting it in the column for you. So congratulations. I love that we're all right about Deadpool. Yeah, yeah.

That's really, I think I saw some reaction of like, geez, they really had, we had no idea how much it would be Deadpool. Down to where, let me say, I think if they did a ride with this tenor, I think it'd be good. I think, imagine something that Deadpool has set up that is like a parody of rides. Something that if we lose the Simpsons ride,

there won't really be that anywhere. So if Deadpool has set up some sort of thing to shit on Disney and rides and theme park tropes in general, and maybe the ride itself is cruddy and does bad impressions of the kind of moves that we know a ride can do, but then there is a sincere threat halfway through and he has to commit more fully and save us from something

but does that not seem like if i would not complain about a ride that's all set up all shitty it kind of makes good on the promise of remember that there's that idea of like a a muppet ride oh yeah that's or no i'm conflating the movie and the yeah there was a movie where the budget got slashed that she was a movie or made um but like i don't know that is a ride premise i think could be kind of cool yeah well a couple weeks ago i said deadpool ride after this thing makes a billion dollars and it just crossed a billion dollars wow and the uh story time is a big hit. Big hit. In the park. He's making bawdy jokes. I'll say this. I can't wait to see it. I think most characters at

this point in time are technically Avengers in the Marvel Universe at some point or another. Oh, he's in the Avengers movies. Well, obviously I'm saying put Deadpool in the Avengers ride. Oh, I think he will pop up. Because he is the latest movie.

I haven't seen it either, but there's a multiverse element. The rides, a multiverse story. Yeah. Get him in there. But yes, I think Jackman.

Yes. I, I, hopefully they will do something like this because Deadpool being in the parks and this is, it's embarrassing to say something where you're like, Deadpool gives an energy to the parks. That is good.

He did to the panel. He did to the panel, and Deadpool, the guy, whoever they have playing, probably multiple people, but whoever they have playing Deadpool is doing a good job. I have on this show said that I prefer a certain characterization of Deadpool versus the Reynolds characterization, but you gotta give Ryan some credit for making it work and making Deadpool like the Bugs Bunny of the modern era, which is what Deadpool is. It's certainly a type of, as not a Marvel person,

it does, just from the outside, a lot of parts of it just seem like piss could be taken out of it. Right? Sure, yeah. And if that's what he's doing, then neat. Well, that's, I mean, it speaks more to how uptight the Disney company is more than, oh, crazy Deadpools, I think. But Deadpool, watching these story times with Deadpool,

I'm just like, wow, he went there. I'm like an older, like, oh my goodness, what is he saying? And like, this is outrageous. Clutching your pearls. Yeah, yeah. But I go, well, maybe I like this. Maybe I like a little bit of a bawdier entertainment in Disney. Oh my God. I thought I was offended, but here I am and I think that I'm popping. Right. I think that I might be popping. I'm popping hard is what I said. but yeah you know you're right and uh

I don't everything seems like it takes forever at Disney and like because all these ideas finally 20 years later they're getting built so maybe in 20 years they'll do Deadpool but there's so much stuff there's so much Marvel stuff that would make incredible rides and this is absolutely one of them and it's got the money now to back it up what if you did a ride that what i was saying about he set it up all shitty what if it felt like a at the beginning like a janky carnival like an awful haunted house yeah like a you know the kind of just like skeletons popping out like and where it's it does feel like rusty dangerous barely dressed at times.

And then it opens up and turns into, and you think that the vehicle can't actually do anything. It'd be awesome. Yeah, yeah. I'll give Ryan Reynolds credit for this, too. He was saying that he pitched an idea for the movie that was just an indie budget road trip Deadpool movie with no fighting. I heard something about this. I like this idea. That'd be great.

Yeah, yeah. With, I forget the character's name who's like the cab driver or whatever from the first two movies and I'm like yeah why don't they do that like I've argued for this for years now but it's just like the house style it seems very oppressive that's

what I mean it's like yeah like I don't know do a movie where like the costs five million dollars that's a talky movie yeah and that looks different but yeah I that's a talky movie. Yeah. And that looks different. But yeah, that's a great idea. I said we should all blue sky our own Deadpool rides and maybe we do that soon. Okay, yeah.

Maybe that's the second case. There's a lot of Deadpool buzz after his stunning appearance. He really blew the crowd away. Yeah. But yeah, he should be- They made a joke about Logan's run. There was, there was some, there was a Wolverine thing.

Cause Wolverine's name is Logan. Cause he's Logan. But then that, that, that results in a Logan's run reference. Well, you're after my heart did. I think he was doing it. Run DM, not run DMC. Run Disney. Oh, right, right.

Oh, that was the, that was the, yeah. All right. That's his themed running experience. Okay, okay. Walt Robot. I feel like I'm speed rounding. Oh, yeah, Walt Robot. Another one Mike was right about. Walt Robot. There's a Walt Robot.

Yeah, and this one, I will say this, by betting, the way I bet this year was, I was trying not to just go with the conservative. This was the closest to a conservative bet I made. I was trying to not just go with the conservative. This was the closest to a conservative bet I made. I was trying to not just go, okay, this is what the,

you got in strong tubers, but yeah, so, so this was the most sure thing that I made. Yeah. Cause it just seemed like, well, what else is going in there?

Everyone is saying it's some sort of Walt show. And yes, they confirmed it. Walt Disney in his office, you will get to see a little show that he does. Will there be a Meghan Trainor Feed the Birds audio track playing during it? I don't know. Hopefully the original will be playing.

That's what it is. Yeah, because they get into emotion when Walt comes up and they get into Sherman Brothers. Imagine just sitting in his office and hearing a song that he loves. Then you get a full performance of Feed the Birds by Meghan Trainor. She did all of it. Yeah, yeah. Which, what I don't like about it, as a noted Meghan Trainor fan, I feel like they kind of zapped the personality out of her and made her just do it serious.

And that's not what Meghan's about and I feel like they should have let her go Megan with it you know do it like a bubblegum pop song from 1960 with really tinny drums you know why was it not more like feed the birds

you gotta feed the birds gotta gotta feed the birds the Megan maniac has hijacked the show a bag. You got to feed the birds. Gotta, gotta feed the birds. Wah, wah. The Megan maniac has hijacked the show again. Yeah, feed the birds, but is she serving the birds? You know what I'm saying? Is she serving the birds? Toppings a bag, but is it a Gucci bag?

Is it from a Gucci, Gucci bag? La, la, la. Oh, man. You should have bet on that. I mean, it wouldn't have come true, but you should have bet on that i mean it wouldn't come true but you should have bet on i didn't i bet on megan trainer that's a sure i swear that's another thought i had i go when is megan trainer show i guess it was not when we were in the betting but when the thing started and i saw how many musical performances there was i was like megan trainer's gotta be coming yeah he's gotta be here well and then we got the kind of a tenuous connection of all for one is here to announce four new cruise ships.

Yeah. All right. Yeah. Bunch of cruise ship stuff in that. Yeah. Like in their name. But they don't explain that. You just get a full performance of I swear and unexplained.

And then they say, but why? Their name's very appropriate for this. Because we're opening one, two, three, four, four new ships. But the ships are not going to be all for one. No. There's not going to be one price that gets you access to all

four of the ships. So if anything, I'd say their name is absolutely inappropriate. This was one of those confusing things. I'm never mad when I see all for one, by the way. Not their fault. No problem with that, no. But I was like, whoa, this was one of those confusing things. I'm never mad when I see all for one, by the way, not their problem with that. No, but I was like,

Whoa, this was, this was like tenuous at best. This connection. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and I,

and I actually, I feel like there, uh, you know, there's more cruise ship stuff to talk about before we do it. I just like to do a brief performance of the entire song. I love you always forever by Donna Lewis, is that okay? You know?

Sure. I love you always forever, New York. It's as, you know, because I will love going on ships always and forever. Yeah. On that ship front, here's a bet. I started a stopwatch on this. One of the bets was how many minutes, this is my proposal, was how many minutes. I started a stopwatch on this.

One of the bets was how many minutes, and this was my proposal, was how many minutes they will do on cruise ships. Mike's bet was five. I was eight. Jason went with 12. But I did say price is right rules, closest we're not going over. And actually, either way, even without that,

because it nudged up to 10 minutes and I'd say 15 seconds thus getting it and now but mike had mike had a point of debate well right and my question was do the musical performances then count in our bet because we said how much talk i do think we said talk specifically how much cruise ship talk would there be talk so obviously that all for one thing was part of the cruise ship announcement but it was not talk it was sing we didn't say how much cruise ship talk would there be? Talk. So obviously that all for one thing was part of the cruise ship announcement, but it was not talk. It was sing. We didn't say how much cruise ship sing will there be?

I, there's, there was so much music. I think it would be impossible to, I also would take days to figure out how much talk. If this is also the template, this whole show is a template going forward for these. I think all of our bets will be different now.

Because as soon as the show felt different immediately from years past, and I was like, ah, I would bet differently on a few things maybe. Well, we're learning. But we're learning. As soon as the cruise ship segment started, I should have said 10. I got too greedy with 12. But then, I don't know. Actually, I felt the opposite.

As soon as it started, I tweeted smart monies on Jason here. The way these have been paced, I think they say ships and they finish talking about ships and if they fill that with two entire songs, then they do. I'm giving it to Jason. He can have it. I was upset with my thinking

after this. I was like, this music padded out. Really, they didn't talk that much about the ships. I think there was a world where you were thinking there would be 10 minutes of... With talk, I think it's you. Right, yes. I was technically more correct because they oftentimes go on and on about these ships.

I feel like these things. And this was a quick one. By the way, we're tripling the fleet or doubling the fleet, whatever it is. Four, yeah. I don't know. And it's just like we're tripling the fleet or doubling the fleet, whatever it is. Four. Yeah. I don't know. And it's just like we're going to have 10 million people at sea every moment of every day for the rest of our lives. Not to suddenly bring up environmental concerns, but I've seen a lot of cruise ship companies go like, we're building more ships. And I was like, oh, do we need that? Do we need that many ships in the ocean?

I'm not excited about any thoughts about what that does. I mean, it's probably been good. Flying a plane is also bad. So Price is Right rolls. Wouldn't that be you won that bet? No, closes without going over. I think that's right. What did Jason say it was?

I said 12. Oh, but we all went over then. Oh, wait. You said it was like 10 and change it does is it i thought it meant that it doesn't go oh you couldn't go over the oh god what is the price sorry sorry sorry so if you bet so somebody says a dollar on price is right then the next person says 99 cents anything under 99 cents wins basically basically. Right? Isn't that how it works? God damn it. Because you undercut the person.

Oh. So. Why don't I know this before I say it? Well, welcome to podcast. If I think at eight, you are not going over. And it's 10 and change, but I went over with 12. Oh, okay. So I'm being honest here. Oh yeah, if the

calculation for music and talking was 10, 15, then Scott went. Jason went over. Oh, alright. I think I understand the rules, I didn't even catch that when you were talking about it. Oh, okay, jeez. This will be driving Price is Right contestant Aaron, my wife, crazy.

I still technically won, but you went. You went over. Wow. Wow. Yeah, I thought I went over. Anyway, sorry. Boring. Okay.

What do we think about this Walt show, though? The Walt show? Here's what. We make a lot of fun of Walt. There's a lot of bad things about walt uh will i like cry during the show i've maybe i feel like i feel like they're gonna like get you they're gonna get you on some like kid level of like i'll be with my parents or something and my daughter and then it'll be like they'll play the original feed the bird or something

like i feel like it's gonna be good is what i'm saying i feel like they're gonna get you and all the jokes over the years of walt it's the walt show i read i think it was in the la times and top martin's article uh that it's or maybe it was theme park insider attractions magazine i've read so many roundups i've lost track that it it will have an initial run and then after that it's gonna play in conjunction with lincoln right so it's not i think what people were thinking before was oh walt will introduce lincoln but that's i don't think what it is it's gonna be just a full walt show it'll run through the 70th and then they'll alternate the walt show and lincoln during the day going forward and i think it's so funny that with any Lincoln chain,

and they've done this before, it's always like they want to do something else in there. It keeps being like, well, think about who thought of this Lincoln show is Walt. It's Walt. So if we put a Walt thing in there, that basically is a Lincoln thing. Walt basically is Abraham Lincoln.

So you don't get to be mad, do you? Actually, you should be very happy, shouldn't you? I feel like those meetings boil down to someone going, fine, you take a sledgehammer to Abraham Lincoln then. This is like a sneaky way to get a different show in there, though, in a way where you're like. They did it. Can you argue with Walt? You can't argue with Walt. He's in there though in a way where you're like did it can you argue with walt you can't argue with walt he's in there and then like because i think it's a rotating stage now where you just rotate the show okay you do the lincoln show you do the walt show uh so yeah i guess you could like

in the middle of the night in like 2028 you just somebody like goes in there and just removes lincoln and it's like just now and then you don't have to worry about the empty seats in the Lincoln theater now do we think it's Walt at a desk like talking to you about his ideas or is there any chance that it's him needing a little bit of extra nursing

of that polo injury also builds a robot of his nurse or helper or whatever yes I had the same thought will we see the office that Walt would go into of his nurse or helper or whatever. Yes, I had the same thought. Will we see the office that Walt would go into with his nurse to get his polo injury worked on? Yeah. Which we determined had to be some sex thing. So is it going to be?

Possibly. Yeah. A weird, whatever it was, it was weird, I believe. Like she would put a glove on and just stimulate him over his pants. Something was odd about it, I bet. Very odd. Like Icy Hot is involved she would put a glove on and like just stimulate him over his pant like something was odd about it i bet very odd like i put a glove on i just keep it on my head i don't know if there's a glove that's what i'm saying like there's some some version of it we're not even imagining that made whatever the sexual encounter was that he would have yeah odd but it was no doubt odd that's what i believe yeah well then then the question is will it be like real audio of him and like well never forget it all started with a map or is it a lot is it

mostly oh oh right there right there actually actually a different part needs some massaging at the moment maybe it's not on my back right now. What is this woman's name? We've talked about her before. I know, I don't remember. Look her up. Somebody look her up. It's been a long time. I think it'll be like Carousel of Progress

where they can light that area of the room. Oh, sure. And then you could see through his office and the nurses in there waiting for him. All right, Google, Walt Scotch Mist Glove Lady. Walt Scotch Mist Glove Lady Mass Scotch missed glove lady massage but sex. It's not coming together. Another drink easy on the ice.

Hazel George. Nurse Hazel George. That's right. That's right. We've done an episode on this. Who then spent a lot of time with Michael Jackson. Yes. Yes.

That's a second gate episode. If you haven't heard, go back and listen to. Because that's fascinating. Yeah, yeah. Michael sought out Walt's nurse, Hazel George, and asked her a bunch of questions about Walt. Like, did Walt, I think, didn't he like, did Walt swear? You're also a glove enthusiast. Can I bring up Michael real quick?

The night before the panel with all the movies where they just like everything was a sequel and stuff it felt to me in a similar way when michael jackson announced those like 50 concerts on both like in england and here where you're like oh they need money they're looking for money here yeah yeah like there was a similar feeling i had where it was like oh they they need the money okay got it yeah the famous announced tour michael jackson's This Will Happen. I remember staring at that schedule going, oh, whoa, no, no. Michael needs money and oh, I don't think this is going to happen. It did not happen for one

very apparent reason. The real name, This Is It, which proved eerily correct. They meant the press conference, not the shows. When Michael Jackson died, did any police detective go like, this woman was involved with Walt Disney and Michael Jackson? Was she a person of interest as well?

Did Hazel George give him the propofol? Oh, she gave him the special. I'm just saying they both passed not too long after. Jason's a Michael Jackson truther in the sense that he thinks that Hazel George gave him the Provo Ball, not Dr. Conrad Murray. Wow, I've never heard this before. This is a new one. Okay, look, there's been a lot of besmirching of my godfather, Dr. Conrad. Well, I'd say, and then you go like, well, we did a forensic search, which led us to discover that Hazel George died in 1996.

But other than that, I don't see why Mr. Sheridan's theory couldn't be partially true. I would like to see him do a Jesse Ventura-style conspiracy theory show where he talks about some of these theories. I'm going to find the culprit in the black Dahlia case. I'm going to find the Zodiac killer. A nurse, or so she says. What does that even mean, really? So what have we missed? I mean, I don't think we have to name check everything in any particular.

But are we missing a big area? Before we kind of like wrap up. With the big stuff. I mean, before we end with the big thing, there's no before we end with the big thing is this there's no tomorrow no tomorrowland announcement i was i i will tell you my confidence level of tomorrowland announcement happening during the whole whole ceremony or whatever it's called show uh was high really it was high because and it kept getting higher and higher and higher they they teased

tomorrowland they played some Space Mountain early on. Obviously, they played other things too, but there was like Tomorrowland. They did a little Space Mountain. And then as it's going on, they go, okay, they did Avatar first. That's Disneyland, a California venture, but okay. Then they did Walt in the Middle.

And we're going along and I'm like, they haven't announced one big Disneyland thing yet. Nothing for Disneyland other than Walt Robot. That is crazy. Right, which is crazy. So we're going along and I'm like, they're saving it for the end. What else could they end? I'm like, I was so sure that we

were getting it at the end because I was like, they have to do one big thing for Disneyland. It would be wild not to do one big announcement for Disneyland as far as a new ride or an overlay or something. Well, they went wild. And they went wild. They ended with, you know, a thing that was obviously very exciting to see

for an American park. But my confidence was high during the ceremony. As opposed to, here's our audience, a poll right before the show. What do you think we get tonight? Tomorrowland plus people mover? Tomorrowland no people mover? Neither one. Neither one 70%.

Well, that's always the easy bet when you're talking to Disney in a thing like this. Oh, I understand why they said that. It's where our audience, it's what they felt. Though they were also wrong then on the nothing yet for behind Big Thunder where we did get some stuff, obviously. But yeah, Tomorrowland after, it's also funny that funny because we've had this Tomorrowland plan for a while and we're going to step through these big things about Tomorrowland and talk about the decay and new Tomorrowland and rocket rods

and then culminate in the Fixing Tomorrowland episode that just came out. And Mike started putting the heat on us about that, like, we got to do that fixing. Scott Jays said, we got to do that fixing because it's coming up and we're gonna get it we're getting it this year so make sure that we do it and we gotta do it we got nothing

a prominent source that was correct about other things said that this was happening and it did not happen so yes that source was wrong I don't know there was a lot of talk about a lot of stuff came out of this as well.

Like, pull was pulled out. Obviously, they weren't going to pull Tomorrowland. It's a big thing if it was really ready to go and they were going to put shovels in the ground immediately. But I'm sure they're working on something. But will it ever happen? I don't know. I'm still holding out hope.

There's a Destination D next year, a D23 in two years. I think we get it before Disneyland forward. I still believe that, and I still think I'm still holding out hope, even though it did not happen here. And I'm glad we did the episode, because also there's a chance that Friday morning they were ready to go with big Tomorrowland plans. Somebody threw their phone on the desk with an Apple Podcast app open,

and they said, listen to this. And they heard our pitches for Tomorrowland, and they said, this is so much better than what we have planned. We gotta scrap the whole thing. We gotta go back to the drawing board. Or they heard they're onto us about the sod. They'll think we stole it from them. We don't want a sod gate on our hands.

It's possible that, well maybe they didn't even think about sod. Maybe they said, you know what, we should put a new sod in this. We don't put this into the actual presentation. People are gonna riot. And they pulled it out and they decided to go with Villain's Land as the end. The little one was kind of prickly about the Ant-Man ride. We need to remove it now. Right.

Or that could be, yeah. Last minute. We had to do it just in case. We threw a grenade into their entire operation. I appreciate your optimism in this area. But since I first came to LA for school in 2006, they have been talking, people have been talking about

they gotta do something with Tomorrowland. Oh, there's something coming for Tomorrowland. And it just doesn't happen. Do we wanna go double or nothing for another Tomorrowland bet? Sure. Okay. I would love to get that easy, easy money, Mike.

Okay. I would love to take the easy money from you. Okay. Jason, same. Double or nothing. I also, by the way, think that we should keep bets going. Yeah. A friend of the show, Van Roba Show, was proposing a bet.

I think if any guest who comes on the show, we're open for business on the bets. I think this is a part of the show now. It is a part of the show now, and I'm trying to determine what my bet is. First of all, let's just take a temperature here do you think we will get a tomorrowland before some sort of disneyland forward stuff starts being built no no you think like people mover track is there forever or at least i don't know if it's there forever but i yeah i don't know i don't think because i think oh that's all except here's here's this is a big this hasn't been said. And I think this is the real reason why Tomorrowland didn't happen.

In addition to what would be cool for the parks, there is also a broader Disney company need to service the buckets of what are the big IP and areas and things that we own. And you do have to think about these presentations as that. We got to service a lot of Marvel. We got to service a lot of Star Wars, which is where I was maybe the the the i shouldn't say foolishness in your thinking you weren't so far up no you're right but the but in galaxy's edge like the reason to say galaxy's edge is because we these is also for shareholders and we gotta assure everybody we're doing stuff with star wars all the time to some extent right Right. So they're going to say something, I think. Tomorrowland is not something that anybody's got eyes on. There's no masters to serve there.

Yeah. So that's why. And Avatar is clearly one of those two. Yeah. I think they have to show activity in these IP buckets. And Tomorrowland is not attached enough to one of those. Yeah. Other than that Tron is maybe part of it.

And that's sort of it. If the Tomorrowland movie had hit and hit big, Tomorrowland would have been fixed by now. He's doing Incredibles 3 now. I'm not saying it's going to be a crazy over. I think they will. I think the People Mover track will be gone by the time Disneyland Forward starts, whatever it is.

Boy. But I guess that's going to be hard because we have to parse what that means. If Disneyland Forward is Avatar. Mike, do you want to bet that there is an actual bunny who delivers eggs to your backyard? Yeah, he comes every year. So I'll be on one side of this one.

Yeah, that is a different argument. I think we will get a Tomorrowland announcement of some kind in the next two years. No. That's what I bet. No. Jason, how do you feel? Are you including the next D23?

Yes. It could be Destination D. It could be during the 70th anniversary of Disneyland. It could be the next D23. I believe there will be a tomorrow announcement in that time. Those don't feel big enough. I feel like next D23. Maybe.

You fool. Let him make a bet about Destination D. Let him think Destination D is anything. They say things at Destination D. Yeah, what'd they say last year? That they were thinking about things. Oh, yeah, yeah, right. But it's a whole new company now. Yeah, what'd they say last year? That they were thinking about things. Oh, yeah, yeah, right. But it's a whole new company now.

Jason, what do you think? It was two years ago. And the Mad Tea Party set lists are way different. And when I say announcement about Tomorrowland, it means they could just be pulling the PeopleMover track out and re-theming Buzz Lightyear and painting everything. Yeah. It could be that.

It's not like an amazing sort of. I think because of serving the IP, that's why. Look, here's the thing. I think they're going to get really excited about all the new stuff they've announced. And then I think they're going to get really excited about the Disneylandneyland forward expansion by the hotels and i think with tomorrow land they're gonna go that is space mountain and star tours and that's good enough yeah so you're with scott there will not be an announcement you don't believe us an amount i want to this is another time where i want to be wrong this lat this one was 10 you were going to get five

if it was at the end. You guys are making it even you were actually making it even more extreme because I'm saying I think it will be an announcement in the next two years and you're saying they're not going to pull that people mover track out in the next 10 years. What have the last 10 years been like? How is this so insane?

No, I'm just trying to get on the same page here. I grew up here. These are my streets. I've watched page here. I grew up here. These are my streets. I've watched them decay. I lived through every bit of it. Each year it got worse and worse. You want to tell me about my land? That's the problem. Mayor of Kingston over here.

I mean, I guess if Tron Ares is a hit, which I don't know if that's possible. Cool Nine Inch Nails is doing it, but none of the other ones have been big hits. Not enough. Well, the charisma of Jared Leto could fill any number of computer mainframes. I've seen people say if Fantastic Four is a hit. Well, now there we go. Aesthetically speaking, that's perfect because it's an Elseworlds 60s aesthetic in Fantastic Four. Maybe that could do it.

Okay. That's interesting uh if you turn tomorrowland into a world fair if you turn into the first 90 seconds of the tomorrowland movie you know sure i still okay my bet is two in two years within two years there will be a tomorrowland announcement of some new version so the two years include the next D23? Yes. Okay. All right.

That seems like, yeah. What's the number? What did we bet last time? 10? 10. Well, double or nothing is 20. And you put five. It was going to be an extra five if people were there.

All right. Well, double them both. 20 and 10? That's right. Okay. Double or nothing. And then I'll double or nothing again in two years. I'll say, well, two more years, that's what it'll be.

And we'll keep the battle going on. We'll just keep going and going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's hard to count with interest rates by then and the value of the dollar what that 20 or 10 will mean by then. Right. But it'll be a whole other world. Of course.

Anything else news-wise to cover? Should I get into the betting stuff and where we landed? Oh wait, okay, well here. Okay, so the big announcement, because it was seeming kind of done, they actually did get me, and then it was not done, there was a scary music cue, and then the face in the mirror admonished Josh DeMauro

for withholding something, and we got a big final announcement of, there's no name for it, but we're just for now calling it Villain's Land, going in Magic Kingdom. So let's talk about it first and then we'll talk about what it means for us. It is great, great concept art, this is another one of those rumored forever, exciting way to present it. We got a little bit of

specifics. We got two attractions, restaurants, shops. Basically just one piece of concept art that kind of implies a coaster, but we don't really know what villains we're dealing with yet. Maleficent coaster in the art. Because the dragons sort of buy

it. So that's what people, and like it's like thorny and that's what people assume. I i don't know that to be a fact but yes so that looks like if if that art is accurate like an outdoor coaster it's kind of this i don't know what the actual other ride is um but it is sort of like epic universes monsters lariat's got a coaster and it's got some other kind of looks a lot like epic universe very similar to epic universes yeah um yeah i don't know i mean it's great it was all the way it was all the way to close it the concern maybe is no timeline five years yeah keep dreaming you want to put money on that five years we're not going to get

that money for five years but i don't need i don't care about that uh i don't need to do that this at least six years with the the face in the mirror this was the most professional wrestling thing of the night where it's like well that's the end of the show thanks for coming and then he pops up and that was very fun yeah but i think you know so look there's not much to say about it it's cool concept art and it sounds great and i'm i think it'll be really fantastic uh but let's talk about the ramifications for us because um well actually okay actually a couple things uh uh one right before we get to that let let's get to our bets. One of the bets was Disney words said out loud, recurring Disney words. Mike went with imagination.

I went with magic. Jason went with dream. Now, this tally got a little wonky for me. I tried to keep track, but this was a long, long panel. However, there was an early lead taken early in the panel. This was a big one. I threw this out and said it's for $20. Why not?

Make this the big bonus. Here's my calculation on this. I think there was an insurmountable lead gained very, very early on by Dream, which is Jason's word. My count is 11. If I missed part of this, if I went to the bathroom during it, if I missed Shibuzee doing a rapid fire imagination, imagination, imagination many, many times, then I did. But I think count is 11 dream magic for I'm not sure I heard imagination once in the panel.

Which, speaking of, that means no journey into imagination either. The Horizon's name didn't really lead to anything. Nothing. Except for the Spaceship Earth Lounge. Lounge. The former Siemens Lounge. But now everybody can go to this lounge. That sounds good. Pirate's Lounge at Magic Kingdom. Oh, yeah, Pirate's Lounge. But, everybody can go to this lounge. That sounds good.

Pirate's Lounge at Magic Kingdom. Oh, yeah, Pirate's Lounge. But yeah, no, Epcot, nothing. No. Epcot will still decay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is, that's what I'm telling you, Mike. The Disney is okay with decay.

And I don't just mean in the villainous villain's world. Two years. Okay. Marley. All right. Anyway, then i had another question because we got really thrown by that or the first number of the show is john stan was performing a dream is a wish your heart makes they made me wish i'd bet on wish yeah uh but then i had a question

does music count i asked the audience does music count? I asked the audience, does music count? They said yes. It was a close margin, but they said yes. If we're counting music, Imagination's still zero. Magic 6, Dream 21 becomes a crush by Jason. But even if you take music out of it, it's still Jason. So congratulations to Jason on the big bet of the night. $20 go into your pocket on that one.

Now, if we're talking purely financially, if we were to take that one. Oh, and also, by the way, if story, if anybody grabbed story, they would have run away with it. That would have been so much of a thing. We're all idiots to not say story. So let me say what happens if that uh that one's out is uh okay um if if not for that final bet then i'm up 22.50 this is the high stakes that we're dealing with here yeah uh jason is down nine and mike is down 13.50 with the final bet this brings us to oh wait a minute and you actually this is kind of crazy with the little nudging that has happened during this episode and evaluate and i'll let you guys check the math on this but this is what i'm seeing at this point in time Jason up $11. Me up $12.50.

Mike down $23.50. Yeah. Mike down a lot. I think the key, it was those tens. You lost a lot of tens. I know. Now, when I came, when I sat down with you guys before I made some changes, Jason was up. And I was exactly even.

I was at literally $0 thanks to some changes. I have won financially. However, however, and this is how it was starting to feel until the big reveal. Oh, my God, they aren't done. Oh, my God, Villain's Land, Magic Kingdom. Oh, my God, Jason gets a double scoop of Baskin-Robbins, flavors of his choice, and due to them saying location,

though maybe they didn't clarify behind Big Thunder, I said location. I didn't say there. Magic Kingdom equals Jason also gets sprinkles. Wow. And therefore, because I only beat you in terms of numbers by $1.50, once you have calculated the split price between Mike and I of a double scoop at Baskin Robbins, Jason is the winner of the 2024 D23 best. Wow.

Wow. Wow. Congratulations. Jeez. And not to mention, I think even if the numbers didn't add up, the joy that came from the ice cream would surmount any financial loss. So it's Jason no matter what.

Jason, congratulations. My God. Thank you so much. You win the first ever round of PTR betting. I mean I don't want to get into the weeds here but were you talking about those salt and straw prices Scott or were you talking more reasonable prices like a dryer Thank God we didn't get into a salt

maybe if it had been an ample hills it would have been a different situation. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. But thankfully, you chose a reasonably priced, and I'm glad, and it's something we can go to very soon. Do we want to go right now? I want to go to bed right now.

You want to go to bed right now? We will take a rain check on the, okay, well, you're right. It has been a long episode, so we will not, we will have to wait for photos of Jason and the ice cream and the grin on his face from the ice cream. Will you wait as long as we will wait for Tomorrowland news? Hopefully not. Jason, hold us to it.

This is not blue sky. We're putting shovels, as I call spoons, into cream, into dirt, which is, by that I mean the dirt that's ground up Oreo. Rocky Road. We're putting little shovels into dirt. Rocky Road is one of the scoops. Oh, that's one of your choices. That is confirmed.

Well, let's blue sky here. Do you want to make your choices, cup or cone, flavors, and type of sprinkle? Do you want to say it here? I'm going to go with cone. Great. Probably sugar cone, the chewy one. Okay. More expensive?

The chewy one? I don't know. Sugar cone or cake cone are usually the default cones. Oh, okay. So you're saying that's a cheaper one. Yeah. Okay. Sorry.

My apologies. Waffle cone is usually a little too overwhelming for me. Okay. All right. Well, you got to know yourself. And what flavors are we thinking? I don't know the second one yet. Okay.

Oh, wow. I'm thinking about going a wild card,'t know the second one yet. Okay. Oh, wow. I'm thinking about going wild card, like pecan praline. Okay. So you'd say that you're dreaming up some, you're starting to think about the kinds of flavors. Yeah, I don't have shovels in the dirt yet, so. Okay.

Sprinkles just rainbow? Maybe chocolate jimmies. Mm. Oh, right, I forgot it was Jason we're dealing with and it could be chocolate jimmies. Oh, right. I forgot. It was Jason we're dealing with, and it could be chocolate jimmies. Just don't say that to the California teens at the Baskin Robbins. They will not know what you're talking about. Well, I've got

some stories for them, but they don't. You know, on the other side of the country, there's a wide variety. About 100 years ago. Well, we will make good on this. The only dark side to this great ice cream news is this is going to help his problem. He's got a problem with the penny slots, and this is only going to encourage him further.

This could be a real problem for Gamblin' Joe over here. Oh, well, let's take you to the casino after this. Or after the nap, after the nap. You can nap in the car as we go to Pe casino after this. Or after the nap, after the nap. Oh, yeah. You can nap in the car as we go to Pechanga. Oh, yeah, I'll put the seat down, and you'll nap in the car as we go to Pechanga. Oh, good. All right, this luck all the way to Temecula.

All right, but for now, I guess we'll wrap it up. Boy, supersized episode. Boy, hey, we still shorter than the panel, but boy, do the three of us love to talk about this shit. Even on a Sunday when we're rushing it out, here we are. Could have done more, too. Yeah, I know. If it came up, and there will be, you know,

we'll start picking apart parts of it. And you know what we'll have to do, what it'll motivate is like, as they start saying attractions that are closing, we will have to start saying goodbye to those. And in fact, have we missed anything in Dinoland? Or do we do all of Dinoland? I don't remember.

I don't remember. I don't believe we have. Yeah, forget how we broke that up. If it was Chester and Hester only. Did we do Chester and Hester? I think we did. Or did we just do the roller coaster? Oh, we did Primeval Whirl.

Yeah. We haven't done Chester and Hester alone. I haven't done Chester and esther all right well the that list will grow uh but for now uh i mean i'm mad boy that's a blue blue sky with chester and hester yeah as a ptr listener but for now you survived podcast the ride uh a jammed out uh episode sort of uh hey this is this week's main, so we won't be back here on Friday, but for three bonus episodes every month, check out Podcast the Ride, The Second Gate, or get one more

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Place your bets. I know where the smart money is. But hey, we've been on fucking topic lately. Have we not? We sure have. Let's give ourselves big pats on the back for that. A big ice cream scoop of off topic, please. I'll take off topic.

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