Podcast: The Ride - D23 Wrap Up

Episode Date: September 16, 2022

We take a look at all the Disney Parks "news" coming out of the D23 Expo. Dadimatronics (the hunt for the best animatronic Dad) episode up at The Second Gate: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide FOLLOW PODC...AST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 forever dog warning the following podcast contains boundless ambiguity a wholehearted endorsement for a beloved southern california business and cheering cheering cheering we take a look at all the disney parks um uh announcements air quotes in our D23 wrap-up. Today on Podcast The Ride, a celebration of stories, storytelling, stories about storytelling, and the storytellers who tell our storied storytelling stories. I'm Story Gardner, joined by Mike Carlstory. I'm here, yes, and I'm full of stories. I'm bursting, yes, and I'm full of stories. I'm bursting with stories. I hate to be so vulgar, but when I go to the bathroom, I make stories.
Starting point is 00:01:12 That's just how many stories are inside of me. That's what we bond over is our shared love of stories and of eating stories and peeing out stories. And having excess stories, wasteful stories. Always better to have too many than too few. Too many stories. Stories, that is. Jason's story didn't see that. Oh, and there's nothing quite like stories, and we're bringing them back. We're looking into it very strongly. We're bringing stories back, and what better place to do it than the boundless future that is this episode?
Starting point is 00:01:40 Oh, yeah. A grim start. Yeah, the chills just hit me uh if you don't know uh why all this is happening uh where this is uh at least my my all of our general impression of the d23 parks panel which is the main thing we're focusing on but we're we're doing sort of a roundup of all of the parks news, the thrilling parks news that came down the pike this week that we've been looking forward to hearing at the D23 Expo. We're so happy that everyone was back. We weren't.
Starting point is 00:02:16 We weren't back, but we were back with our friends. We were watching people be back with their friends for the first time in three years and what a thrill it was. And we've got a language professor coming in to tell us about the you know boundaries of stretching the phrase news to fit what occurred the other day which yeah maybe maybe we'll learn that the it is accurate if technically if new information of any kind is presented, it might count as news or that linguistics professor might teach us that jack shit was announced this week. We'll be debating that. But besides that, also stay tuned because, hey, it's the D23 spirit. That means we have to get in the PTR23 spirit, our personal convention.
Starting point is 00:03:11 And while we wish we could be back with you in person, we didn't figure that out. We didn't rent a ballroom this time. But what we can do is for the first time in three years at the end of this episode, induct new PTR legends. Get ready. Will it be you? keep listening to find out i did think about inducting you as a ptr legend but then i just i guess i'm ruining now what you just said so i ruined the tease so the answer is not you you did not but at least well it's not conducted by me it's not the general you but someone could be listening to this who is a ptr you know that's how griffin newman found out he was just in a store or something and then he
Starting point is 00:03:52 was like wait a minute i got accidentally inducted as a ptr legend right um look we don't invite we don't necessarily invite everyone there's no like luncheon we don't really provide you anything other than like being able to sleep at night knowing you achieved something on this earth yeah which is a strange thing to say because some of the previous inductees have been like milkshakes so right who is probably a milkshake is not listening to the show and does not need to care about sleep i don't know we talk jason talks about milkshakes so much i think there might be a few milkshakes that do tune in. 12% of our listeners are milkshakes. I was thinking about inducting Papa Steve again, just because, you know, there's some changes going on. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:35 We'll have to see what happens to Papa Steve. Well, that's one of the things. Can I, I want to propose an idea. Yeah. Because we said we would do PTR Legends at the end. To end on a fun note, positive note. Do we want to start on a positive note too and touch on fun things? No.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Negative note. Okay, good. I'm negative. Brother, that's my instinct. That's my instinct too. I'm just trying something different. And if I'm wrong, fair enough. Trying something different.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Whatever you want to do is fine. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I was just joking there. No joking there no well let's i think let's try let's start positive why not yeah go for it do we have the the materials to start positive i have a couple things i go you go you go okay idea you have an idea well i think the one i mean we were all tweeting as this was happening and i think uh i scott i think it was you tweet it like the pacific wharf redo uh into san francocchio from big hero 6 no complaints yeah it's fun i think that's neat i i was saying to you guys i i like a a redo that doesn't desperately need to happen one that's just like a fun let's plus it up because we can i do like that and by the way just in general i this there you can watch this panel
Starting point is 00:05:52 on youtube still i would imagine we're mainly referring to the parks panel that occurred on sunday which was earlier in the week as you hear this in the in the morning hours of september 11th uh don't forget never forget the news that occurred that day uh so yes that's a pretty good one that's california adventure yeah turning the pacific wharf area into a big hero six themed area um and the pacific wharf area by the way we've talked we've touched on Some of this stuff It's where Ghirardelli is The former Tortilla factory
Starting point is 00:06:29 The current Bread factory The bakery Where you meet Papa Steve Who we've been obsessed with For a little while Is it correct
Starting point is 00:06:39 We did a Papa Steve episode But not a bakery episode Right Correct Still haven't We parsed those out. Clock is ticking, though, on this place. So we got to get to these places before they transform into.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Geez. God, they may no longer be like playing those Whoopi Goldberg, Colin Mockery videos to no one as they like the sprint as fast as they can through the like how fast can we get through this having already received our free morsel of bread yes the carl strauss cart will it be there will it remain that was my biggest concern because that
Starting point is 00:07:19 is one of my favorite alcohol locations yeah in the park i don't see why my beloved big fish net photo opportunity which the last few years i've just been delighted by that's been there for 21 years now yeah that was an opening day fixture yeah if you stand far away from it it looks like you are in a net not just meant for fish but just but swarming with fish there's hundreds and hundreds of fish in it and you are the catch of the day i yeah i don't know do those things have to go is there enough if it's san francisco maybe it already is san francisco feeling so do they is it now just a matter of injecting the okio part yeah maybe they just have to up the tokyo portion which is which i you know from the concept art they showed it's glowy and futuristic and you know just like strap some new lights on stuff and i'm always happy and see splash mountain and it's it is interesting that it's like all right it's a
Starting point is 00:08:18 cg animated movie in between two pixar things it's a disney animation movie it's also marvel property oh right oh yeah i forgot but it's not connected to the avengers campus yes well maybe it's near right it's near it's near that is confusing i forgot the marvel amax has not yet been folded into the mcu somebody on twitter pointed out and forgive me for not knowing who pointed it out on twitter that they got rid of the golden gate bridge at this front of california adventure but now they will be adding the futuristic golden gate bridge to this area is that right so the bridge because that's one of the entrances is a bridge so that's becoming wow so the bridge was considered too tacky before the one that they have and now we're getting a new one and i wonder if it'll be more nuanced because i didn't like that monorail golden gate bridge it
Starting point is 00:09:11 felt silly it looked like a lego yeah set so maybe it will be a little more textured right ornate plus the future side of it i'm excited to see this bridge yeah so the bridge this is all yeah this is all good this feels the whole thing feels like and this is the best description i can think of is when i i would try to pretend i was playing soccer and i would head toward the ball this is the closest one of the closest things they got to actually like something that feels like impactful this this announcement is what i'm saying yes yeah like they were trying to present many things as if there were big things coming but they were avoiding the ball like i did as a kindergartner and soccer now if i i don't want to put negativity on our attempt at positivity but isn't it positive i actually i think that
Starting point is 00:09:57 maybe most of the good news at this panel we are lighting up at because we are socal residents yes and we go down there a lot and a lot of our concern is eating and drinking down there so a lot of it feels like good news for us but if you're say in florida or the half of the country where florida is your destination maybe you're less psyched because the hell did florida even i i don't want to jump around feel free to keep saying positive stuff i'm just saying like i'm like yeah wharf and downtown disney restaurants that we'll get to but yeah i bet somebody in south carolina could give a shit about what's happening to the wharf well because yeah i i was looking mice chat very helpfully divided up all of this into different articles one for disneyland one for disney world and one for the international parks okay so i
Starting point is 00:10:52 could review it because by the end i was a little like spacey and they were doing this blue sky thing where they were like teasing things they might never do. And that was bizarre. But there is a graphic that shows each year stuff that's opening around the world. And it's like the center of Epcot, the world celebration with the CommuniCorps building and then the Moana Journey of Water. That's not opening until later in 2023. And the Tiana Redos for both Splash Mountains in America, that's not until 2024.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Late 2024 was on the graphic. And in 2025, again, this has been said a lot of times by a lot of people, Universal is opening the first new gate, theme park gate in Orlando, since the last time they opened a new gate in Orlando in 99. After a streak of pretty good rides and expansions, they now are opening a new park, which seems massive in scope. It includes Mario Brothers. It includes monsters, the classic monsters there were monster leaks we haven't even talked about this i said did we talk about it maybe there were in our
Starting point is 00:12:12 private life did we talk about it do we talk about do we privately talk about monster leaks there were monster leaks about stop had a lot of yeah oh the monster stuff is so good it is yeah what are the leaks pretty good so there's a concept that at first i was a little bit like i don't know but the concept is sort of it it's modern day and there's like they've turned like say like an old time monster village into a tourist trap yeah basically it's in uh um like the heir to the frankenstein family and they've turned it all into a tourist trap but the basement of the castle is filled with the monsters and they're still there they don't oh interesting and there's like
Starting point is 00:12:51 a new elvira type character like a sexy lady monster no she's not a monster i think she's like a scientist something yeah but she's and she's sort of like presenting all this stuff and then the big ride is that thing we've talked about forever, which is like a KUKA arm type thing, which is a crazy e-ticket through every universal monster who's like living in the basement of like Frankenstein's Castle, I think. Frankenstein's Castle, yeah. And they don't separate them, like all the monsters.
Starting point is 00:13:18 There's one ride that's the monster's ride. All the monsters are on a ride. And I think it's a roller coaster track with a Kooka arm yes it's like a crazy new version of the kooka arm like it's this is the greatest this sounds like the greatest thing ever yeah and it seems like they've scrapped the show but it might have been replaced with a spinning roller coaster there might be a new ride also there so it'll be two rides in there in addition to like just an old time frankenstein village and this is also the closest thing we get to like non-ip even though it is ip yeah where it feels like it's old stuff at the very least it
Starting point is 00:13:50 won't be based on like it feels more in the spider-man spirit the way that that uh downs of adventure spider-man ride is like the spirit of spider-man more than any specific spider-man you will so it'll make it feel like original so like whatever this monster take is will feel kind of new version of the classic monsters basically i'm assuming uh because it's not the monster they're not so precious with the monsters because they're just so ubiquitous i think they they feel like they can have multiple versions going at one time yeah needless to say i this is that's the most excited i am about anything theme park wise in the next well and then in 2023 in hollywood we get nintendo the beloved multi-generation beloved video game company yes shows up here uh oh you mean yes
Starting point is 00:14:40 which you're a a new addition to the park that we are as excited about as current six-year-olds will be excited about. Like, yes, perfectly caked in interest from many different types of audience. Yeah, sure. Well, there's all that. projection show wishful magic kings which was already announced that we got new art that shows you what the colors of the spires are going to be and it will only be delayed by eight more months yes i did know that i saw the presentation and i know that very well and i i got very excited about it people were yeah people were shrieking about it in the hall that's the one boy it must be nice to be in these pan must be nice because we're at home
Starting point is 00:15:33 snarking and then we're watching a feed of it and they say like hey everyone you're getting a donut and everybody like it is the great it is pandemonium for all these kind of nothing announced. I mean, I'd be excited to be getting the, that's a bad example. We'd all like to get the, yeah. Porto's cheese roll? Is that what it was? That's the one that I. It showed the picture.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Wait, did you say you don't like the cheese roll? No, I did. I love it. That's a fantastic item, yes. Well, my question on that is that cheese roll they were giving out. I went to the Porto's website. Those cheese rolls retail for $1.05. What will the Disney market be for these?
Starting point is 00:16:12 Oh, my God. Massively baked, like baked in the biggest batches you have ever seen. Porto's is literally right around the corner over here. And it is pretty cheap compared to, for like a good meal. It's great. In general, a pretty cheap compared to, for like a good meal. It's great. In general, a pretty cheap everything. It was a godsend during the pandemic because they were doing like curbside pickup. Yes, I did it.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Just a little taste of like a fun Cuban sandwich. Banana chips. Yeah, those are good. Those are good. But yeah, no, it's like there's no way at downtown disney like everyone will go there if it's the same exact like price as it is up here it's gonna have to be more competitive with whatever black tap or whatever yeah it's also a few miles away in buena park yes where it will be cheaper presumably so if you're a local you're probably not dealing with the hassle of that it's
Starting point is 00:17:02 ten dollar parking and then that's those cheese rolls are ten dollars each and then so when you add all that up um yeah that in general here if we're getting into that yeah some of the some of the amazingly some of the bigger announcements were new restaurants at downtown disney as if geared to us specifically who spent time going through every restaurant at denton disney i felt crazy when they announced it because i go why is this being presented in front of to this crowd international audience of people because like porto's present like the logo reveal as if it's dr strange or something like like seeing i did like seeing the name of good local restaurant chain portos business for decades oh that's good oh great great it's as if like but it felt as if like
Starting point is 00:17:53 uh josh tomorrow was like and now we're gonna bring out joey kramer to talk about what's happening to the rock and roll like it felt so specific to me and us yeah that i was like what is going on here like this is bizarre and i'm happy it happened but i guess they were so low on announcements they're like i guess throw portos yeah we have to really puff up that's big now din tai fong is big that's a more well-known i feel like yeah portos that is an international it's in taiwan and it's in las vegas and in california um but how do you describe the it's like it's it's it's like a like smaller bites kind of restaurant yeah oh sure sure yeah yeah yeah and there's a rendering of what that building's going to look like and it does look beautiful it's great yeah fine with. Yeah. We got some better aesthetics coming to downtown Disney.
Starting point is 00:18:47 It's almost a little surreal because it's like they're getting real. Like this is both. These places are amazing food. Like this is great food. This isn't just great for theme park food. This is like real deal food. Yeah. And I kind of couldn't understand.
Starting point is 00:19:03 It's like, wait, it's going to downtown disney okay doesn't make sense you're saying doesn't add up yeah i mean like black tap and and ballast point are like both good but like well i mean brew pub is its own sort of i mean it's been slowly quality has been slowly ticking up for years you know what a lot of them aren't though is like uh the place is famous for the good food like ballast point is like i wonder if the food's good you go when it is okay great but like these are you know famously solid restaurants yes um well it's just how people feel about salt and straw even though you despise it jason but i just think it's a little overflowing and i i got real i any anyone i found i like of the like newer fancy ice cream par like there used to be a sweet cream or sweet
Starting point is 00:19:52 rose creamery by me that closed down uh and then the uh what is it uh what was the one at disney oh that was in um it's still in brooklyn but it closed a lot of those in the house it was in It's still in Brooklyn But it closed Right away It was in the house It was in the Like Heidi Fleiss' Doctor Father's Old practice Yes It's in the old place What really Yeah
Starting point is 00:20:09 Yes That beautiful Craftsman house In fact I could be wrong When Eva's listening right now Did you tell me that I hope
Starting point is 00:20:15 That's correct And Iger had invested in it Oh my god What is it It's two words It's some Ample Hills Ample Hills
Starting point is 00:20:22 I believe it's Wait you forgot Didn't you do a Doughboys about it? I did do a Doughboys about it. You forgot the name of an ice cream place. It's gone. COVID haze is real. Look at poor Jason.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Yeah. Brain fog is mostly pushed out to the name of different ice cream places. I am shocked by that. That is also like post-COVID world. Like it closed. It was a nice spot. Another world to go. It was a great spot. You could sort of chill out on the lawn. Like it closed. It was a nice spot. Another world to go. It was a great spot.
Starting point is 00:20:46 You could sort of chill out on the lawn after you got it. It was always busy. Yeah. And then it closed. Like it announced it was closing two days later. Gio texted us and was like, it's closing. There's giving away ice cream. And we were just like, get over there.
Starting point is 00:20:59 It was like right before COVID maybe? Did you go to some sort of ice cream looting type? I didn't go. Okay, okay okay but we were made aware of it um so so yeah it's like all these again all this is good but this is okay d23 they do every other year and now it's been three years since they've done it what are some of the that's sorry to interrupt what what what has been announced at these previously i've been okay let me say this i am look do i make snarky snark comments all the time sure i do but do i want to go into these big halls and cheer and celebrate which i've done a few times for different things yes i've been there it's fun i was not at last year's d23 because we were not invited of course i made that very public when we were at our own convention.
Starting point is 00:21:47 But I was there two years prior, and I was there when they announced Star Wars Land. So I was there. Oh, so that got an L. A whole land about Star Wars was once the bar, and now it's a nice, tasty dumplings restaurant. Here's our little photo collage from 2019 what was announced uh that big e-ticket avengers ride which has now shifted uh that the epcot some of the epcot redo also now scaled back spaceship earth out um yeah there's a little more of like avengers they had sort of i forget if they had had alluded to Avengers Campus four years ago.
Starting point is 00:22:25 I think so. And then they showed it off two years ago more. And then here's the private island lighthouse point, which if you recall during this panel, Josh Tomorrow was standing on this deserted island filled with palm trees and scrub grass, and nothing had been built there. Oh my God. I don't recall because I walked out of the room at the cruise part. I check out. That's that seventh inning stretch for me.
Starting point is 00:22:51 I go pee. I go stretch. They do a lot of cruise during these panels. Yeah. And I guess, obviously, they're very popular. I've never been on one. I'm not against going on one. No.
Starting point is 00:23:01 I don't care. I don't care that the new ship is named. What is it? Treasure. Treasure. Treasure. Peter Pan and Tinkerbell. Do you want to hear the name of the new ship?
Starting point is 00:23:11 And then like everybody goes, yeah. I want to hear a word. Oh my God. They showed the word portos up on a big screen and then they showed the word treasure up on a big screen. This panel was epic yeah but i mean three years ago there was more along the lines of like actual announces this year it's more we're hedging our bets well in a lot of we have announced this and here is a little
Starting point is 00:23:40 more about it yeah those that stuff was a little more hopeful and a little more fruitful for example they put a lot of eggs into the basket of new splash mountain tiana's bayou adventure correct yes yes um which looks great every little bit that they show looks awesome but it boy you feel that like they had to pass the ball to that that attraction had to do a lot of heavy lifting in the lack of brand new things and i hate to i hate to be negative but in that that i'm a little already worried about everything i'm worried about budget i'm worried about the budget and everything yes yeah because it's like i'm sorry splash mountain a long ride a lot of space to fill a lot of space and i'm a little worried even i, a long ride, a lot of space to fill. A lot of space. And I'm a little worried.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Even the idea that there's a bunch of mist. Well, this is the thing. Could be good, but what if the mist ain't working? What's in the room? They say mist, and the first thing I think of, so to explain, they kind of talk about how there's going to be some sort of mist in the ride, and they're going to maybe project things on the mist, which to me means we're not going to do as many robots. We're going to do a sort of mist in the ride and they're going to maybe project things on the mist which to
Starting point is 00:24:45 me means we're not going to do as many robots we're going to do a lot of mist now maybe that's going to look really cool and i'm going to look like a fool hopefully that's the case i bet it's good mist i don't doubt it's good mist but the first thing i think of is uh nintendo 64 and fog and if you know what i'm talking about is that nintendo 64 famously in games when it what they weren't able to render like a thing like levels fully in the distance would just throw up a lot of fog so superman 64 is one of the most notoriously bad nintendo 64 games and it's filled with superman flying around in like foggy metropolis and you see it in a lot of different nintendo 64 games because that was the easiest fix to just not have to render that far into the distance
Starting point is 00:25:30 so the first thing when they said miss i go uh-oh we don't want to we don't have to we can't render and i'm like okay all right i mean they showed like some sort of a woodland creature playing a banjo and i think there's still going to be maybe the celebration at the end so hopefully but but the outside and the initial promo art looked a little bit more uh like they had changed the whole mountain versus what the model looks like the model looks like basically they took out the spikes and on top of the hill yeah the briars yes which are good i mean don't throw me in the spike patch yeah but then they just threw up that uh the cool i like the water tower there's like a water tower that's fun that says tiana's and the general like the night vibe which it splash mountain doesn't
Starting point is 00:26:17 particularly have now and they've made it it's it looks like pandora now we're getting a little mini mini pandora here seems like they're doing a lot of research uh they got a lot of the voice actors back music's great anika noni rose great performer uh felt a little bit she did a great performance uh but i felt a little bad because it's like well i think true equality will be reached when she just gets to walk out in a blazer and a baseball cap and wave like she doesn't have to do a show she doesn't have to do a shift of her job you know you were just thinking about how hard she was working she had to do like a whole thing and like she didn't get to like other people are just coming out hi bye but she did like ruffalo ruffalo phones it in is what you're saying literally come skype come in dressed in green and do a whole thing.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Hey, Kevin Feige had to act in a moat next to a bizarre giant Hulk suit. That was heavy lifting acting wise. Real quick, I like all the Tiana's restaurant. That seems real fun. Oh, yeah. That'd be great. Let's talk about this real quick, too. I'm interested.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Are we going to, is Critter Country going to go away? That's an interesting thought. Well, you can't get rid of poo. Because Splash Mountain is not going to be in Critter Country anymore because it's going to be New Orleans Square. Is it annexed? It has to be because we're in New Orleans and that's where Tiana's, the restaurant is going to be.
Starting point is 00:27:43 And that's where this ride takes place. So it's going to all be New Orleans Square. but is Tiana's taking over the French market or the Hungry Bear unclear I don't think it's no I think it's yeah yeah I think it's in New Orleans Square but yeah we are in the square so so and I don't think they're gonna they're not just gonna get rid of Hungry Bear for no reason or poo so I think Critter country is just cut in half it has one exactly one ride and it's a little kid it's like paradise gardens park but it's not lingering awkward little redistributed gerrymandered little corner where they are going to add back in right they're adding in that exclusive entrance for the pixar place hotel oh. There was an entrance there.
Starting point is 00:28:25 That used to be there in the early days is coming back, I think. That's good. So, I think Critter Country then will be saved for now just because they're not ambitious at all in doing anything. Like, I'm sure they have in the back of their mind that we should just make this fully New Orleans Square and put a different ride or put a different theme back there. I bet they don't, though, because, Winnie, that's like where they make, though, because that's where they make their poo books. That is where they make their poo books.
Starting point is 00:28:46 And meet and greets, that whole center zone, the trail that you... I'm a little swayed by having done this with a kid once. The little trail where you meet Tigger and Poo and Eeyore and everything, I don't think they're getting rid of that unless they got something really solid. Is that going to be the smallest land in any park? Could be.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Maybe. It just feels like they might have an idea for it. It's an awkward... What's that area? What's the little mini fantasy land in front of the castle where Figaro is? Oh, the fantasy fair?
Starting point is 00:29:20 Yeah, it's like that. It's a little more substantial because there's one ride. Maybe I'm a critter country defender it's so like gentle and brown back there i don't want anything to happen to it i'm not saying i want it i'm just saying that it makes it would make sense then to just sort of make that all new orleans square somehow i suppose just from a space what then what are they doing with poo i don't know you need poo in the park somewhere. I'm not saying get rid of poo. Any criticism I have is leveled by just the sheer, like, look, Eeyore's out.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Get a picture of me. Yes. Yeah. That does a lot of debilifting for sure. So, I mean, look. They have to look into all of their great New Orleans properties. Have they ended up owning, like, the Big Easy what does disney own that's set in new orleans uh yeah justin can we get raylan gibbons well there's a walk around raylan gibbons from justified face character he has to end up in new orleans tracking someone at some point right oh yeah raylan get you stumped me
Starting point is 00:30:23 with that reference oh that's raylan gibbons character oh that's the name of the main character of justified okay i have no one justified elmore leonard creation all the fan will probably the way they're adding new characters to galaxy's edge uh timothy oliphant's character will be there in about 2042 i bet for the mandalorian yeah for mandalorian right at the pace they're going do we transition with that into some what they top loaded it with the big announcements at the top they bring out favreau they bring out the creator of star wars john favreau to uh showcase the news and look who's here oh my god it's the mandalorian and grogu and he's got grogu and i'm like wow so that means baby yoda and the mandalorian are coming to oh this got announced already i forgot this got announced then what they are doing is showing us that they didn't stop
Starting point is 00:31:17 making it right right yes and they're then they said and now you'll be able to see him and i'm like oh they're gonna say like he's there today and they're going in november and i'm like he's there look at him he's good he's ready to go send him in holiday rush yeah have him walk up walk across the street in the costume let's do it why do we what november and then they're like well we've been working on this since before the pandemic we had to get it just right and i'm like what do you mean just right i've had the suit from the show be in another place yeah his grogu head i guess probably is a robot of some kind so i guess you got to get some of that right he kind of looks upset to be in that bag yeah it looks a little little cranky when he's covered i guess that's helpful if you're trying to smuggle him somewhere but like like he's among
Starting point is 00:32:05 friends at uh hall d23 this why put a why put a drape over him i thought this was also going to be like the start of i was like okay i go like they got favro out here i go okay they're bringing the mandalorian i go this is going to be a big announcement sort of about what they've announced about adding other characters we're going to see like like there and also that's not it and then they bring out like all the mandalorian characters or you see babu frick or whatever and there's gonna be a big cavalcade no it was just him and then favreau left that was it all right i was like why do they have him for just for that like obviously i want like i wanted like uh uh the whole hyperspace hoopla plan to come out and drop it like it's hot to play in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Do you think... Well, that audience probably freaks out for that. I think people at home are blinking audibly, but... Maybe. I mean, if they say Hyperspace Hoopla, yes, maybe the people at home are a little confused. But on the stage, if all the Starerspace hoopla, yes, maybe the people at home are a little confused. But on the stage, if all the Star Wars characters came out and they danced, yeah, people go nuts. When was the last time something that fun happened? Since the last hyperspace hoopla.
Starting point is 00:33:15 That was it. It died with Snig and Goopla. What were their names? Yeah, something like that. Yeah, that's it. That was it. Snig and Goopla. So yeah, Favreau was out. He had been there already for the day before to talk about the new Star Wars stuff.
Starting point is 00:33:33 So I guess he was still down. He's one of the guys who you always see. He goes into the park after this. So he's always spotted. You always see him hanging out because I think he's a big parks guy. Sure. So I mean, yeah, he probably gets that extra two days free disney with the guide trip when he's down there we're starting through if like can does he uh do they comp the meals or does he have does he still have to pay for those
Starting point is 00:33:56 i think what's a giant favreau trip to disneyland like well i think i'm just saying like they were like well you can stick around the next day to show off the mandalorian and he probably gets second day on the trip. Not that he couldn't get it regular, because he's pretty high up at the company at this point. And do you think per diems? Does he park somewhere special? That's a good question, because I know, look, you get the guide for free, but you have to
Starting point is 00:34:16 pay. Generally, I think if you're on the Disney plan, you do something there. Shonda Rhimes. I mean, they shafted her that's true so bad on the park tickets she jumped to netflix right that's true that was because of parker's tickets it was like the final like indignity i think i think it was like her we were relatives were going and she was like oh i have these extra passes go use them and they're like they're not good today and it's like god no don't give the tv
Starting point is 00:34:46 person created like three hits for you the money that's been put tickets tony baxter was aghast when i asked him if he just had to like make a quick call to get like tickets to tokyo disney he was like horrified that i thought it would be that easy for him wow not if he doesn't wow yeah he was making it seem like there's no he has to pay for everything it's bizarre there's like the most powerful one of the most powerful media companies in the world there's so much about it that's like so weird if you don't think about it such petty nickel and dime i mean as evidenced by like you know i mean it's shape x had worse things to overcome pr wise but that scarlett johansson thing was so bizarre so why this is your enemy is scarlett johansson yeah constant
Starting point is 00:35:35 unforced errors um but now he's back and he looks so fucking rad his his silver fox lincoln his bald lincoln look jpeg yeah i eat him with the beard does kind of look like those renderings that people online go like oh if mr trump grew a beard he'd look so cool and it's like i guess what he'd look like is that a gross that that bizarre sect of things that like draws trump as uh super cut and ripped they also like i bet he'd look sharp in a beard oh yeah wow he'd come back stronger than ever whatever the guy's robert mcnaughton or whatever it was always painting like presidents with shotguns playing poker or whatever republican presidents excuse me yeah the weirdest beard that there's no way if it was like his top hair would just be like dripping down like a wet dog i think the beard i'll say
Starting point is 00:36:34 this unobjectively i do think the beard looks good i think i would encourage him to keep it i think it looks good versus i like shapex beard yeah i would you it's like the triple h beard the bald on top beard on the yeah i think that's a cool look honestly it's not i don't think it's usually a bad look but i i didn't really i think i was watching like a grainy video of one of the jpeg things i couldn't really see it from like wherever the person was in the back of the hall yeah no i think it's a good look mike's look he's checked that high res shape beard shots yeah i was watching the presentation i paid i paid for that is this just are you just so stuck in the pattern of thinking that all of the ceos can get it this is we've gone into this so many times that look how handsome card walker is are you just so
Starting point is 00:37:21 mired in this that you have to accept chapek's beard as handsome it's possible i mean we are not always aware of our own biases uh biases so you're not attracted to the man you're attracted to the chair to the office of disney ceo idea of a ceo has the whole president's exactly you dropped trump take trump hostile takes over disney and suddenly you're like you know kind of sure. But he'd especially look good with a beard. Wow. That's a guy who's been to the Aspen Ideas Festival.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Nice. I think, look, there's also like, there was a new, we're jumping all around. There was a new beard also on a different character too, which I think. Oh, King Thanos. We can jump to that. Yeah. King Thanos. Let's do the Marvel real quick because we alluded to the ruffalo and feige already sure so it starts with feige coming out and they're doing a little bit of back and
Starting point is 00:38:11 forth uh josh tomorrow and feige classic comedy bits um and feige is a big it is interesting a lot of these guys i do feel are true blue parks guys parks people so let's get them on and off they cannot get in and out yeah and then and they're talking about avengers campus and i thought you know they had a pretty deep for d23 the comedy of showing loki three times was good because they were showing all the different characters and they said and we have in the park we have loki and then black widow and then loki and it was him in the different costume and then a different character than loki who was yeah that was genuine comedy rhythm yeah yeah so so they're they were hyping all the stuff that they do and i was like yes okay i approve of all this and uh then i'm trying to remember the the way that it
Starting point is 00:39:00 that it played out is that i think ruffalo interrupts he's in like a hotel room somewhere and he sends a video in and he wants hulk to be in the parks yeah so i'm like okay that's good i would like to see the hulk sure and then a really funny giant i don't even know how what is it like it's a person in there obviously uh we were we were trying to figure that out and i think you know jane had seen some stuff like that when she worked at universal and there's probably a person in there but the hands are like grabbers you know they're controlling the hands they're probably on small stilts small raised yeah yeah sure sure and then they're also firing off the voices on the like controls it seems like a lot
Starting point is 00:39:45 yeah and it's a big it's like double the size of a person triple the size of a person the shot that followed him out did not provide the context of another person so the suit comes out i'm like cool suit and then he lands by feige and tomorrow like oh god he is twice their size yeah yeah yeah and it's but it's funny because the h is wearing his, like, time suit from Endgame. His quantum suit, yeah. And his famous helmet, the Hulk's famous helmet. I know it so well. So bizarre.
Starting point is 00:40:15 A giant green creature wearing ripped jeans, and they're like, put him in a space suit. Well, it's obviously done because... His lip flap can't... Yeah, they can't... They didn't get it to look right with him shirtless and with the mouth. Right. And he talks now. He's smart now.
Starting point is 00:40:35 It's Smart Hulk from Endgame. And he's been smart ever since Endgame. Justin, Scott, I want to catch you up. Hulk is smart now. Oh, I did not know that. Yeah. I did think he was oddly, like, why is he just mumbling here? This is
Starting point is 00:40:48 not Hulk smash. No, yeah. He's just Ruffalo, smart Ruffalo Hulk. I was a little surprised. I thought he was going to say, let's get some Hulk in the parks, and it was going to be She-Hulk, because the show is running right now. It's getting a lot of good reviews. Well, they should put her in
Starting point is 00:41:04 a big white suit, too, I guess. And roll her out well let's do the she-hulk well whoa she'll be in the she's in the art okay yeah everyone's kind of it's it's not so the ride they they re-announced the avengers ride it's no longer you're gone to wakanda and aliens attack it's a multiverse thing yeah so and it also there'd been a it'd been alluded to a little bit in concept art that you are flying on your own somehow like you're on a quinjet and then suddenly you're flying solo and i don't think any of us knew exactly how that ride mechanism was going to work but now they very distinctly show just a car you're in a car with a car which like and that's good so we're using the greatest ride system ever well if we do yeah if we use the greatest ride system then okay good but the old the old art made it seem, oh my God, what is this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:05 We are maybe no longer in the territory of new type of ride. Yeah. Because the old one, there were enough promo, like the promo art or whatever you call it, the concept art is like you were in a Quinjet and then somehow you got out of the Quinjet. Like you just plunged down like you were skydiving or something. And then you were in little chairs in like a 360 degree theater of some kind watching an insane battle happen around you yeah which sounds amazing sounds like a crazy new thing you've never been like you're in little like bungee chairs
Starting point is 00:42:37 or something maybe that's been replaced with cameos and that now yeah cameos of every possible character i think that this was a budget concern like many things uh had that happened in the disney company in the last few years uh including not paying mindy kaling and bill hater to reprise their roles in inside out too yes announcing inside out too but not lowballing them and forcing them out because they're they're not going to pay uh actors as much anymore even actors that are famous wow yeah so uh i think that this whatever they figured out is that we will just have screens with characters on them and not pay the money for the new crazy cool ride system that's a guess i again hope to be wrong i hope to be proven wrong and that this thing will be amazing but we know what we're looking at we
Starting point is 00:43:31 know that it's and it'll probably look there's plenty of great rides where you are sitting in a car uh but just when you're coming down from the possibility of um and it's a crazy new type of ride and the care yeah the it's got all the care it's got like an animated spider-man in the promo art it's got tom holland spider-man it's got daredevil it's got she hulk it's got a good variety of characters does it have megan the stallion twerking it does not have megan the stallion i want to say i am pro megan the stallion twerking on She-Hulk. Yeah, I'm pro as well. Unusually current reference for a Disney prop. It's a little, yeah, it's already a year or two maybe behind, but still. I feel like she's just gotten bigger in the last year or two.
Starting point is 00:44:16 That's true. No, you're right. But it's not, yeah, it's not at the, I don't know, maybe, I don't know what years are anymore. Yes, that's true. Yeah, it would have been like a lot of big songs during the pandemic yeah yeah yeah yeah so uh uh look if megan the stallion would want if they want to put her on the ride i think that's awesome i guess that you would say yes if all of a sudden she's like punching thanos in the face king thanos oh
Starting point is 00:44:42 yeah so did we explain king thanos who has a beard what's different about him besides that he has a beard well they said he won but he also kind of won in the in the movie too i think he just kept winning he won he got he was winning so much he got so sick of winning yeah we're all gonna be we all ended up so tired of winning. Yeah, he won in Infinity War, which famously, Jason, when we saw it in the theater, Jason was upset by the end of Infinity War. Real sad. Kind of sad to watch Spider-Man dissolve into dust.
Starting point is 00:45:15 I said, oh, that was actually one of the better Marvel movies. I really enjoyed that. I thought that was like, it was a dark ending, and it was cool. And Jason was like, but think of all the kids will be upset by it well i also didn't know the second part was coming one year i thought it was gonna be another three or four years in between movies so you thought that was too long so i thought that was
Starting point is 00:45:35 gonna be like well a lot of kids thinking spider-man's dead for a few years but so yeah thanos wins in infinity war then he goes andires. And then at the start of Endgame, the remaining Avengers go and find him retired. And even though he's not a threat anymore, Thor chops his head off. He murders him. Yeah, just to be safe. And so yeah, but he won. I mean, Thanos won ultimately. He got his way.
Starting point is 00:46:03 And then the Thanos they fight at the end of Endgame is a different, is the past Thanos basically. Right. It's like a different Thanos because they go back in time. So this is a multiverse, a different Thanos from a different multiverse. They haven't explained which one. So it's not Thanos. I've been saying Thanos my whole life.
Starting point is 00:46:23 I, look, I've been confused actually as long as I've been reading comics about exactly how to say it. Mm-hmm. So, whatever the last person who said it is how I say it. Okay. There's probably podcasts that arise where I say Thanos, honestly. Mm-hmm. But, so.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Just jumped out. I feel like it was, like, that was a, like, and then King Thanos, which is different than thanos and thanos one yeah no it says nothing that i'm just whatever whoever said it last is how i say it there is so like there's definitely weird comic stuff like race racial ghoul is batman villain who is pronounced it's pronounced race racial ghouls pronounced on the animated series that's what they say in the 90s that's how they pronounce his name and then in the kind of movies they call him raz al ghul so i don't know i don't know i have a good answer for any of this um anyway he's got a beard now and i have no other information about what makes him different but he's he only in this ride this version of he's exclusive to this ride it says
Starting point is 00:47:18 first time they've rolled out a new version of a character okay yeah that's something yeah yeah i i kind of thought they were the way they were leading up to it i was like they're they're gonna announce a big scary villain from the comics and it's just getting rolled out in this ride that was not the case okay okay so what people recognize which hey fair enough it's a theme park yeah you gotta go where people know. If I could amend a Simpsons quote, Malibu Stacy has a new hat. It is. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:47:51 That's the good news. Very much. New hat, new beard. People are going to be excited. Hey, speaking of hats, big hat, related news and parks and characters, the Hatbox Ghost is coming to Disneyney world don't care for it you're oh you feel like edged in on give them a new ghost keep the hat box ghost exclusive to here as well but if you live there wouldn't you be like i want the hat box ghost i bet that is how i would feel well there we go i don't care we can crack that
Starting point is 00:48:23 puzzle i don't want them to have it I want us to have it They can have a different ghost Give them a different ghost There's no legend At that haunted mansion About the hatbox ghost That's the whole point
Starting point is 00:48:34 That's what I'm saying The reason the hatbox ghost Is special out here Because it's a specific legend To here To Southern California To Disneyland You can make up legends
Starting point is 00:48:42 And put them anywhere Sure The power of storytelling Anything can be a legend We'll make up legends and put them anywhere. The power of storytelling. Anything can be a legend. We'll make up a Orlando legend of a different ghost that maybe was on the ride the first week of opening. You know what I'm saying? I guess so.
Starting point is 00:48:54 I understand that. Look, Leto is the hatbox ghost. And they're going to have to have. Isn't that right? I didn't make that up, right? Yeah. Oh, I forgot about that. Jamie Lee Curtis is Madame Leota.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Oh, I missed that one, really. And she came out in the Doom Buggy. Oh, she came out in the Doom Buggy. She was revealed at D23. Oh, that's why. I saw her in the Doom Buggy. I didn't catch that announcement. Okay, interesting.
Starting point is 00:49:13 So, Leto is the half- So, I understand he's going to be a popular character, and they want him on both. I understand that. In case- That's Jared Leto, not Leno, just to be clear. In case you were mishearing it. Could go either way with us. Could go either way.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Thank you. Yeah. Thank you for clarifying. So, so yeah, no, I feel, I feel they should have their own unique ghost to,
Starting point is 00:49:32 to that coast. Do you feel like anyone has, have people in Florida been jealous of us having it? Cause you seem like, I don't want them to have it. Do you think on the other side, there's ever been like those bass, those smoke bastards in California? Yeah, i think it has probably been like this is
Starting point is 00:49:48 not the same as me not wanting like people's student loans forgiven because i paid my student loans that's not what this is i'm not trying to punish them you want some forgiveness so you want and then so would you be okay with some hatbox ghost hatbox, but he's smaller. Or he's harder to see. They put in a lot of mist. I want a means-tested Hatbox Ghost. That's what I want. If somebody is worthy enough of seeing the Hatbox Ghost in Florida, they are allowed to see it. No, but I just, I feel like it's fun.
Starting point is 00:50:19 It was a special thing because of it being to Disneyland and the legend of it so when it finally appeared here so uh i'm not that mad but i don't think honestly but i still don't think it should be there i don't think they should have i'm not that mad you could rearrange that sentence to be i'm mad you could if you wanted to um but this is fascinating unique unique ghost put a unique ghost there that's what i think i guess i can't argue with that but it's got to be it's there has to be the like inherent clever you have to like give them something as cool as the hatbox ghost effect well as long as there's a need to use the same effect and it's a different ghost
Starting point is 00:51:02 and his head is going into a different type of um like carrying case of some kind so you're okay with still suit box ghost suitcase ghost orange orange man ghost guy to sell oranges door-to-door no not no no we got to take the phrase orange man back an orange salesman and he got lost at the Haunted Mansion trying to sell his rears. So, wait. Sorry. His head goes into his box, which is otherwise full of oranges. Is his head a big orange? Oh, well, maybe his head disappears, and a bunch of heads appear on the oranges in his box.
Starting point is 00:51:40 His oranges that he's selling. That he's selling. By the way, so he got lost and ended up in an old manor him being a citrus salesman got a mansion i bet that's a lot of money here they'll buy a bunch of oranges i'm gonna move so many oranges today yeah it's okay that's i i'm for that i'm for all of these ideas i just think that it's special. It's not special anymore here. So you're,
Starting point is 00:52:12 so are you now going to go on the haunted mansion and be like, Oh, he'll do like a big sigh when you pass the bucks goes, I don't know that I'll exhale aggressively, but it just, I like your little, like little treats on the different coasts with the different rides. And it will feel a little less special. Unless maybe they'll do something different with him in Orlando.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Because all they did was show his head. And who knows? With the way they roll stuff out, maybe we're waiting until 2030 to see him. They didn't give a date, I don't think. No, they did. That was on the timeline. Because they had to flesh out that timeline. How many logos can we populate this with to make it look like something?
Starting point is 00:52:46 The one year, I guess it's 2024, had the Tiana logo on it twice. And then underneath, real small, it said Disneyland, Disney World. And I'm like, well, no, that's cheating. Those aren't different things. That's like when you make your font, and when you had to write a paper in school, and it's like, okay, I'm making it 13 point.
Starting point is 00:53:03 I'm making the margins really small they must be really big everybody got um like marvel marvel like tv and movie pilled so they're like we should do that too with the rides it's fun to show the big graphic of all this so fun and then they all reveal and fade up and you're then people are staring at 50 logos we gotta give them 50 logos or it's not a panel so somebody threw that idea out and they were like yeah let's do that and then they were like oh shit oh it can't be a year with like little ones coming out okay switch it switch the access okay yeah now they're all this so the year is this way and the years are stacked so it looks it busy. It's a little Jenga tower.
Starting point is 00:53:45 It's not a timeline because we don't know what the hell's, we might not have any money by 2036. Well, so one of those would just said Cotino. It's like, that's just a housing development. Oh, did it say Cotino? That was on there. Yeah. It's just a housing developed for millionaires.
Starting point is 00:54:02 That doesn't count on this. No, no. You could tell they're like but you know you could sense them like trying out the material like if cotino got a cheer in the room where it's the easiest ever to make people cheer then maybe they'd keep pushing cotino a little harder but it right managed to not get a cheer in a room where people it was like and the boat will be going to australia holy shit oh yeah people were removed on stretchers like at an old rolling stones concert elvis
Starting point is 00:54:31 women passing all right we got 10 faints it happened again a boat has a new place to go josh tomorrow is like elvis in a lot of ways so do we still have the fond feelings for tomorrow after watching a whole parade of because we were texting about how like now there's a lot of like he oh he knows that people like him and we're all going to do run disney and i'll be there running i run you know that i you know that i run anyway now i think so i think we figured it out we got to see him ride tron i mean we're not going to be able to ride tron for a while especially there's a virtual queue those things are always fucked uh but he got to ride it so we got to see his home movies ha ha ha yay whoosh whoo wow oh the wind and his perfect silver hair so it's done so
Starting point is 00:55:23 you're saying it's done so you you could open this because it's done. Well, a little more. Well, we've got to pour some asphalt first. When is that going to happen? What did they say? Spring 2023. So five years since groundbreaking. Six more months?
Starting point is 00:55:36 Yes. Why? Open the ride. I don't know. I don't know. Universal opens the rides two years too early. Edwards opened two years too early. Secret Life of Pets still breaks every time you ride it.
Starting point is 00:55:51 But it's open. You get to go. As soon as it's legally allowed, they open the ride. Whether it's been tested thoroughly or not. Yeah, I was at a food festival riding Secret Life of Pets. And everything else was like like half the rides are open and it's like oh okay it's all willy-nilly there the vaccine i guess that's good enough to go inside and ride these yeah well speaking of getting a little too ahead of it let's talk about what
Starting point is 00:56:16 so much of this panel was which was performances well that okay yes very talented performers but again we know what you're doing you're filling for time great singers dancers musicians they hired great people but again weren't you supposed to announce theme park rides yeah yeah uh so what a ton of it ended up being was this odd scenario of and and we have some idea. Well, I don't know if we should say I should. Well, don't make me in front of all these people.
Starting point is 00:56:50 You're going to make me say, uh, yeah, I guess you want to man up. Do you have balls or not? Do you have the nuts to show a slide that for sure was loaded up on the screen, ready to go before this panel began,
Starting point is 00:57:02 there was so much weird. So what we got was like the suggestion of a shape of what a ride could maybe be if they do have the funding for it this was the weirdest possible way to do this edging edging this is like this comes about the panel was actually i think scheduled only 90 minutes they went went about two hours, 15 minutes. Maybe it was scheduled for two hours and I read this thing wrong. But 90 minutes in, they bring out like a line of Lena Bell, Duffy's friend Lena Bell. And you're like, this is like 100 minutes in.
Starting point is 00:57:39 And they real quick go like, and there's going to be a stop motion Duffy series on Disney+. Moving on. Like, wait, what? Yeah. So they're like, okay, all right. real quick go like and there's gonna be a stop motion Duffy series on Disney Plus moving on like wait what yeah so so they're like doing like okay all right and you're waiting for the big thing yeah we're all waiting for something we're like even though if they did all this stuff and then at the end
Starting point is 00:57:55 they went a new Tomorrowland I think we'd all been like well at least that's a pretty big deal worth it so okay so like they he starts talking about listen like a way of like a little cheeky like this is gonna be we're talking about some big stuff and i remember going okay wait a minute maybe we've been maybe we're wrong maybe they're about to give us some big stuff this is like how you know like the build-up of alien is kind of slow but it's on purpose because the shit goes
Starting point is 00:58:23 down yes and it lures you in you got you got tricked and then this is as you were saying the most confusing little play that they put on where it's too it's a it's a disney film person so the person they'd have to work with to bring some of the more recent properties to life um and then i i forget who the other guy was he was imagineering okay so then they do this little play where they're not supposed to say this stuff because they say like oh we're really thinking about doing this they're both trying to say these are like we're really planning and thinking about these things but also this is 10 years away if we do it they're saying both things at the same time where it's like
Starting point is 00:59:05 this isn't just blue this isn't just like a thought we've really we really would like to do some of this stuff we have a really fuzzy watercolor of it right two fuzzy watercolors one for animal kingdom one for magic kingdom yeah but also it's not happening anytime soon. Yeah. Which he also says. Yeah. Which is so bizarre. So my reading of it is that somebody looked at this presentation and said, this is a little thin. Yeah. Like, we've waited three years. These maniacs in the audience would maybe like a ride. Maybe like a ride announcement for one of the domestic parks.
Starting point is 00:59:42 And they went, oh, God, what are we going to do? Okay, well, let's share like possible things we could do and but this is not these aren't green lit no these aren't these are not maybe that fleshed out it felt like them feeling the audience out like whatever get whatever wins on the cheer meter maybe they will sort of fast track to presenting it to mr bald beard to see if he'll cough up he'll move some of the lounge money over to it really seemed like kind of they rushed through it it's like oh animal kingdom they didn't even say dino land where it's going to become zootopia and moana and then in the magic kingdom we'll do coco and enchanted or not Enchanted
Starting point is 01:00:26 what's it called? Encanto. Encanto and we'll do all the Disney villains and they'll all be neighbors. They'll all be in a row and it's like what the fuck? It's like all of it? How could all of that be in those places? That seems like too many things. It seems like they called an audible like halfway through the thing and they were like hey get the Imagineering and
Starting point is 01:00:42 the director of I forget which movie she directed uh uh she produces a lot of them yeah she's been there for a long time what's her name jennifer lee jennifer lee i think she was a fixer on zootopia okay with that which i say fixer but like every disney movie the last 10 15 years are always like and it was a mess so we threw everything in the garbage and started back at one yeah and 30 people worked on the story and i was like why do you guys always say this as the narrative like that this is a new thing you've hit upon like well because that's toy story
Starting point is 01:01:17 two it's toy story one it's like every everything has that point you know that one where sting got screwed and they threw all his songs away. I think it's every Disney animated movie. It is the behind-the-scenes drama, but it's just so funny when they're like, Imagineering's hitting 70 years, the company's hitting 100 years, and it's like, okay, and you're still doing everything ad hoc. I guess that's just the industry at large. Oh, yeah, movies and Imagineering.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Everything is chaos. that's just the industry at large but it's everything oh yeah movies and imaginary chaos yeah um but yeah it felt like because they already had talked about zootopia in shanghai which has been announced and like they showed some of the they showed some of the puppet stuff outside which looked cool like i like the idea they were using like puppets on the street oh yeah they'll sort of flesh out the street scenes and environments with puppets animatronic looked good yeah looked cool but then like this was 20 minutes ago and then they're like and maybe we'll they're like how about they which i thought was weird they say like dino land and then they were like we're gonna
Starting point is 01:02:16 bulldoze it like it's so funny because they usually don't say like we're getting rid of this to do this they'll say like oh we're gonna do this and then later you put it together like oh they're getting rid of that land yeah yeah you do that part but they like said really front and center dino land like we're going to bulldoze dino land maybe which is again why it felt like they called an audible backstage to just send them out and this part wasn't so polished yeah yeah so and i don't think that's what happened but it felt late in the process because it didn't this part felt a lot more uh a lot less smooth as the rest of the presentation did yes yeah so yeah they like threw all this stuff out just to make people think maybe we're gonna get a ride here and yeah they threw up some concept art which would be great if it happened but then it just looked like the spinner
Starting point is 01:03:05 ride triceratop spin just becomes moana spin it's maui spin now didn't seem like it was anything amazing yeah roadie was commenting on it too on twitter well he had it was a couple years ago that was an old post was that old yeah because he was just that his theory of like about you know we're not rushing zootopia in there because that's animals telling human stories we're animals trying to let the animals speak for themselves with nature conservation which i'm like that's very nice but i want some fucking rides i don't give a shit whatever it is zoos in the net just put it i know it's they haven't used not a zoo in a long time it can be a zoo it could be a zootopia now he's just there now he was just there hanging out yeah he's just chilling at his old uh
Starting point is 01:03:50 you know alumni yeah all the greats are wandering around that's that's a fun part of this d23 when we were at star wars celebration there were pop-up bars like every 20 feet you could get like a canned cocktail i wonder if they were at d23 oh maybe i don't know what the yeah anaheim anaheim's loose san diego is not like that we've talked about that before san diego would be lawless if they did that yeah but yeah in anaheim you can get a beer in the convention center yeah so anyway all this uh stuff uh that's lawless by the. You get a beer in the convention center. No, I'm just saying the vibes are a little more agitated at San Diego. I feel like the vibes are not as good at the San Diego Convention Center. The Anaheim Convention Center always feels more chill whenever I've been there.
Starting point is 01:04:36 You can go to Rockin' Baja and get hammered and go back to the... Yeah, but you got to walk the mile. You got to walk the half a mile. We've been to the Wired Lounge and you put back a drink or two and head back to the floor. You got a rockin' bar at the Wired Lounge. Yeah. Well, look, rockin' Baja, you have to go if you're a San Diego Comic-Con mainstay like we are.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Sure. What do you recommend at a rockin' Baja? Some sort of fried fish. Right. Yeah. Big bucket of fried something. You get hammered. Margarita.
Starting point is 01:05:03 You get hammered on those fried fish. That's right. Yeah. You can get a biged margarita hammered on those fried fish that's right yeah you can get a big margar big gross margarita and a big big thing it's right it's one get the shark bite well of course we love joe's crab shack as far as the san diego place and i went there i didn't go to comic-con because uh it would have been irresponsible to on the way to child yes lindsey going to labor during Comic-Con, and I'm down at Joe's Crab Shack drinking the shark bite. Hang on, almost done with my shark bite. Labor takes a while, right?
Starting point is 01:05:30 I'll hit the road now. You are like two miles from anywhere that you could call a lift from. I have to close the bill. I have to close the tab at Joe's Crab Shack. It would have been faster if I got in a boat and headed back to Los Angeles with that location of Joe's. Just start swimming So yeah
Starting point is 01:05:47 But no Oh There's a lot of Yeah Rockin' Baja Is an almost Annual tradition As far as a Comic Con
Starting point is 01:05:54 Well look for Mike there Maybe next Comic Con Yeah I'll be there next year So Now the stuff looks cool I don't know Coco and Yeah
Starting point is 01:06:03 It'd be great Yeah it'd all be great. But Disneyland Forward looked great and there was no mention of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The last I checked on that, because I signed up for the email updates and they were showing the first episode
Starting point is 01:06:17 of the Imagineering story on Zoom. And that was the last I heard. The thing you've seen already, bro. If you don't know what we're talking about, Disneyland Forward, they presented this huge piece of promo art that showed them adding 10 rides, 12 rides, big lands to both parks in California.
Starting point is 01:06:35 And what it probably really is, is a scam to fool Anaheim into thinking they were building that when instead they just wanted to be able to build more restaurants and hotels on the land. It's probably a big con for the city of anaheim and they that's what i'm guessing ultimately because you would think they would at least if they were going to tease more stuff that maybe will be built they would have gone to the art that they already had from 2020 yeah two years ago at this point that's that's not happening but it's not that's not
Starting point is 01:07:06 happening and yeah you know what is happening and this maybe this is the in our world is the biggest thing to announce this wasn't even part of the panel this was a detail in a model of the previously announced mickey's toontown and uh if you didn't already see this on we have not publicly commented on this and i think now is the time that there is a new food establishment coming to mickey's toontown yes and uh now forgive me i've actually forget the is it let's does anyone know the exact name because you should reveal it if you know that i forget what the stuff the last word is. Good boy grocers. Good boy grocers. Good boy. There is a, now Disneyland will have a food stop with the phrase good boy in it.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Yes. What happened here? Pluto is in the logo. Right. But also, we like it because it's our thing. We're going to meet down there. We're all going to meet down there when it opens so we can get a picture under it and mike is going to miss his daughter's
Starting point is 01:08:10 first steps like that you again you will be in the farthest part back you were in the joe's crab shack of disneyland the furthest part away this will be look i'll be it'll be more like a 1950s dad who missed all sorts of things about their kids because they were busy at the office or something like the office for me yeah the office for me though will be uh mickey's toontown good boy grocers or uh baja rockin baja comic-con right these are my places of business this is where i work i work in these arenas like oh i'd love to huh yeah i'd love to come oh your voice becomes that you become a cigar chomper things are getting a little crazy at good boy grocers no no i don't work there it's uh i take
Starting point is 01:08:58 pictures under the sign i'd sign autographs or podcast fans you see yeah yeah we get like one every six days it's been a madhouse oh yeah i'm getting swarmed here the disney photographer is annoyed because we keep pulling them away from taking pictures of goofy and we're like can you take a picture of us under this sign okay you know it's a thing on our show it's we say but now it's up here now yeah no it's probably a coincidence but uh it's more fun to think that they dropped it in there as a reference to us. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:30 I do like also that the Toontown models looked cool. I also like that a lot of the signs appear to be using the Man Tea Party font. Like, it's just a little of that, like, kind of kooky, crazy. It's a little twisted, if you ask me. I'll say this, Toontown, they're really, it feels like they're adding back in the sort of like little kid play areas, which I'm happy about. Yeah. It feels like there's going to be a lot of space for kids to run around. That was the point of it, I think, was to kind of reclaim all this space.
Starting point is 01:10:01 So that's good. Yeah. All that Toontown stuff will be nice. And I'm excited because I get to, by the time that's's open i'm taking like a three-year-old there oh great he's in the prime yeah am i gonna force a six-month-old to try to do it yes the answer is yes do you want to be a daddy's office or not runaway railway is pretty smooth mike so i don't know if you want to print like an eight month old on it some of that stuff in there yeah sure they just there's like a window that you have i think
Starting point is 01:10:31 where like uh because she's currently in the window where she just doesn't know what anything is but then if they when they learn fear at all because i've tried to do i had one successful run at this but my son the second one was a lot less successful where we went on the oft broken pets ride. Not broken. Like it's not running. They run it and it is broken. Right. Always slows down and stops, which gave me a panic because like he is really afraid of,
Starting point is 01:10:57 um, uh, as you might be like, like the, uh, the bars coming down on you. Yeah. Yeah. He just does this very sad like no no and i'm like oh we got 10 minutes of this thing on you buddy let's uh um look there's a dog there's a dog you like dogs there's dogs so you can be cool for 10 possibly 12 minutes if it breaks and it will yeah all right if you get stuck oh yeah yeah that was a bit of a fear. We made it out okay. It was all right.
Starting point is 01:11:26 But that's what, Jason's on to something. You probably, you want to take her in the window before she understands what any objects are. Yeah. Because maybe you lose some rides from one and a half to, who knows? I'm not out of the window yet. But then I was afraid. When we went to Disney World for the first time time i was like five or six and my sister was three and she was fine on all the rides and i was scared yeah so you never know yeah how that's
Starting point is 01:11:52 gonna work yeah yeah uh your your kid can be uh really wimpy at any age that's true i can attest you can attest sounds like jason can't attest. We can't all be Jason. I'm a hero. I did recently, I was watching some old footage for something I was looking up for the show. And I saw like shaky camera footage of a place that is like a very clear memory of my mind where I met Belle and the Beast. And it was like high, very tall ceilings and stuff, and it turned out to be like the entryway of the Soundstage restaurant. Yeah, I have a lot of hazy memories of the Soundstage. That's in Florida, you mean? Yeah, at MGM Studios.
Starting point is 01:12:36 And it was right by the stairs that would go to the short-lived catwalk bar. Where everything was upside down or something? Or there was like a bunch of bullshit up onlived catwalk bar where everything was upside down or something or there was like a bunch of bullshit up on the catwalk yeah it was as if they built a bar in the like up you know the lighting rigs and stuff of a soundstage that may have been a fully aladdin overlaid restaurant for some amount of time i just remember my trips i remember we were there a lot oddly yeah yeah i know what you're talking about. Someone did a big blog post about the history of the short-lived catwalk bar,
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Starting point is 01:13:40 another one of these things where it's like don't you have the puppet lying around isn't it just a person with a puppet that's what dream finder the walk around character used to be so they did this whole this whole big like oh you know that little character that y'all like so much from epcot people like yeah we love the character and it's like well you'll get to take a picture with a puppet of it here's shots of merch of it that proves that it is financially viable to do something with it. Yes. Speaking of Epcot, another thing they announced, like for Disney's 100th anniversary, you've all been enjoying Harmonious. Well, we're putting something out.
Starting point is 01:14:20 And Jane was like, no, it just opened. Why are you closing it? You were the only people that gave it a good review, I think. I guess, but it was packed. Sure. I watched it. It was packed. But I think it was a problem from the start.
Starting point is 01:14:33 I suppose. Yeah. So, yeah. This is where I have to, I'm like, you know, the very first thing I think was, and we know that you love Happily Ever After, and that is why now it will be. And I'm looking at twitter and carly's like happily ever after and i'm like i don't know what the fuck it is i have no idea what's being i'm sorry if you listen if you haven't figured out by now my interests are selective all of ours are
Starting point is 01:14:54 uh i'm sorry i don't know what it is i'm happy everyone will be happy that there is more of it those shows and then the new one wonder was it wondrous wondrous journeys with the hey ho song the lumineer song i'm begging for that l city paint the night song to come back begging for i'm look i like the happily ever after like fine i like some of that i like watching those things i'm not particularly like enamored with that i do like a mickey's mix magic which is different than those shows which are very much like what you expect with disney and then the hopes are on the wings of dreams and that's what it's like it's all that same nonsense empty stuff uh and then you know songs and fireworks which are cool and the projections are cool but i for me i like this stuff it's a little odder
Starting point is 01:15:45 like mickey's mixed magic that's a lot weirder it's a little more of a party on main street avant-garde mad tea party like uh so yeah i don't i i can't keep track of some of that stuff either but yeah there was a lot of that where i kind of glaze over and i go okay sure what else did we miss though what was go okay sure what else did we miss though what was the other big one or did we just say it somehow oh no absence of tomorrowland well yeah of course there's been a lot of wrong kindly that's the where the football lucy the football here where it's like that was three years ago i remember everybody going and they're gonna do the tomorrow that's gonna be the thing they're gonna to do the tomorrow. That's going to be the thing. They're going to say, finally, Tomorrowland redo.
Starting point is 01:16:25 No. And that ain't happening for Disney. Like, 70th anniversary of Disneyland is coming quick. Nothing's going to happen except for, I guess, we'll have Runaway Railway and the Tiana ride. Yeah. Things we know about. But yeah, Tomorrowland, they got to start that now if they were going to do it for that. And they are not. It is not happening yeah hey exciting year or two coming up for southern california we get nintendo and we get runaway railway it's fun for us sure yeah sure
Starting point is 01:16:55 that'll be fine all right so i guess there's stuff to look forward to uh you know you know and there is there are good things it's just we just wanted a little a little more we just wanted it to get get pushed a little bit yeah um but you know let's not dwell on that let's be positive and let's let's honor some greats because we haven't gotten to do this in a minute and i know people are uh similar that. People are trembling with anticipation of who will be named the 2022 PTR legends. Does anybody want to go first? I'm going to propose maybe I go last because mine, like tomorrow's presentation, mine involves a song.
Starting point is 01:17:38 I think you got to close out on a song. Of course, yes. Well, I will go first, although I think my choice is a bit of a dark horse candidate great and i'm sure people might have been expecting when we were teasing this that i would select a treat but for the first and maybe last time in my life i've picked something relatively healthy and i'm of course referring to the humble Cuties brand Mandarin oranges. Recently, a recent replacement of the disgusting apples with no skin on them in a wasteful plastic bag. Cuties brand oranges have shot to the top of your obligatory side choice when ordering advanced ordering on the app but for ptr listeners who may well remember these cuties brand oranges probably the only things that kept us from keeling over
Starting point is 01:18:33 during our hot dog hullabaloo like a pirate or sailor warding off scurvy chomping into a bitter lime we of course spent the day supping upon the delicious cuties brand mandarin oranges and they were a delightful treat and gave us some actual nutrients in between uh bacon and cheese covered hot dogs the tiniest items like with the like as healthy as they might be which might be they might be like uh paper and water for all I know. But even if they were extremely healthy, the smallest amount of healthiness you could get. Yes. And also prevented, I'm sure it's prevented someone from getting scurvy.
Starting point is 01:19:17 Yeah. Could have been us. I don't know. I don't know what's in all of those hot dogs, but there could have been the materials for us to get scurvy. I wouldn't put it past whatever they're made of. So you, Jason, officially induct PTR legend, cuties. Cuties brand, bander and arches. You know, I thought about doing the fishnet,
Starting point is 01:19:38 but it's a more recent obsession, and I thought, like... Give it time to linger, yeah. Give it time to linger in my mind and and some pictures of me with different glasses and different haircuts and different phillies caps you know allow some time to pass well that's beautiful wow congratulations to cuties you made it ptr legend not the movie cuties the orange just want to clarify sure but you never you never know what mine is that's a good point now uh i i won't okay i want i'll do mine now and i don't want to step hopefully yours is not going to step in any way on mine because mine is a little i don't know it's a little bit outside
Starting point is 01:20:15 the box i would like to induct into the ptr legends hall all of legendary all of legendary Hall Hall of Legendry Hall of Legendry Any hard to get guest That we've been wanting on the show For many years Ah This is a blanket PTR legend Status That can apply to
Starting point is 01:20:35 Michael Eisner Jay Leno Or anyone else That we've for long Many years said Oh we gotta get so and so On the show Breck Eisner
Starting point is 01:20:43 Breck Eisner PTR legend So this extends to anyone That we have said Over and over again get so and so on the show breck eisner breck eisner so this extends to anyone that we have said over and over again we need to get on the show because we would like to trick them into coming on with an honor because people love being honored yeah yes so this can and there's probably people we've forgotten that we've said we wanted on the show we've done this this uh dumb podcast so long who knows what we said but they are a ptr legend as well so we can apply this blanket this is like one of those blanket pardons that people were looking for i don't know why we talk about trump today for so much but this is one of those a lot of his cronies were looking for like blanket pardons this is a blanket
Starting point is 01:21:18 ptr legend status applied to anyone that seems hard to get that could be swayed with uh some sort of a status some sort of a title some sort of an award yeah the visual representation of this can just be that silhouette on websites when they don't have a person's picture to use they just use that right black this is i'm using my induction for as a bribe sure Sure. Basically. And, you know, we run the PTR Hall of Legendry, and it's not dictated by, it's not governed by any other sort of entity. So it's legal if we say it is. That's exactly right.
Starting point is 01:21:58 Yeah. So there you go. Great. So, you know, take some of that, just edit out the part where we said it's a trick. If there's somebody you think you have a connection to um just like we want you to come get this very legitimate honor that's we can promise you a banquet which may or may not have cuties brand mandarin oranges
Starting point is 01:22:18 also a ptr among the ptr legends that you will join. It's funny. I guess cuties could be the contents of the orange box ghosts. Yeah. Wow. That's great. Great tie-in. Well, you were talking about how you want like a legend to there.
Starting point is 01:22:43 Well, we just went and tied up that plot, didn't we? You want Florida to get their own legend. Yeah. Cuties are now a legend. So a guy selling a box full of cuties. That's correct. Lots of little Lato heads. One Lato head becomes lots of little Lato heads. Lato?
Starting point is 01:22:57 Oh, is it Lato? Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. Excuse me. Oh, Lato. Okay. All right. So inductees, cuties, and you, like you said, but not, it's not all of you.
Starting point is 01:23:11 Not all of you. No. No. But that's saying if one of the people I just mentioned are listening. Then it is you. Yeah. Yeah. And if so, otherwise it's not you.
Starting point is 01:23:21 And if you are an accidental PTR legend who was hoping this would be the year that you became a purposeful PTR legend, this is not your year. No, not happening. Look to the future for any change on that, much like the panel. Okay, so, you know, I think we can all agree that music is the magic passport that we stamp when we land from a flight in a place called disney magic and there is one musician synonymous with disney whose music transports us to a whole new world his songs are as fun as a trip under the sea and he paints musical pictures more evocative than the colors of the wind sir your music allows us to be part of your world. And so we invite you to be our guest in the hall of PTR legends.
Starting point is 01:24:11 I'm talking of course about Jay Bigga. Jay Bigga, this is your year. It had to be 2022. You kicked off the year, Jay Bigga. And ever since a censored cover of one of your songs played in that one incredibles ice show your music has captured the hearts of some of the hosts of this podcast your songs make us want to go the distance and kiss the girl on her pink chocolate so what what better way to pay tribute to a great artist and now a ptr legend than to play a
Starting point is 01:24:48 different jay bigga song that was not played the last time that this came up great and so uh here now from the album laced me up as all his other classics were is a stirring anthem about giving a lot of notes to a beautiful woman who is trying to fuck you oh wow the song is called use your tongue and here it is from non-accidental ptr legend jay bigga i wish i could say You always use your tongue. Cause that's what I'm all about. But you're doing it wrong. Now you don't know how to do it. My instructions were clear.
Starting point is 01:25:34 He gave instructions that she's not following. More chorus. We can all sing if you want just want your tongue i just want your tongue use your tongue yeah it might be a little bit um but it's you know that's i think haven't we all been in that position where the day worked out great for me a beautiful woman is having sex with me but she's not doing any of the specific instructions that i gave let me clarify this through music and worst of all my beat machine is broken it's slowly dying it's sputtering out well he fights through it and he makes music anyway and his resilience that's why we salute you j bigga as do we cuties and open-ended high status possible guest um well what a closer and i i'm
Starting point is 01:26:50 just so happy that we could do this again and we're all in this together and uh we're not doing any more rides for the rest of the year okay so um you survived podcast the ride you can find us on all the socials At Podcast The Ride Merch is available in our TeePublic store And for three bonus episodes every month Check out Podcast The Ride The Second Gate Or get one more bonus episode A month on our new tier
Starting point is 01:27:14 Club 3 You'll find all that at Patreon.com slash Podcast The Ride And I think Wait it's announced I think And I think it's just a few days From this The good boys
Starting point is 01:27:23 Not the grocery good boys But us the good boys, not the grocery good boys, but us, the good boys, all appearing on Blank Check with Griffin and David, with continuing to be accidental PTR legend, Griffin Newman, talking Pinocchio. That comes out very soon. So there's a little bit of bonus content. We're going to another podcast?
Starting point is 01:27:44 That's as exciting as the Disney... It's not the treasure. The Disney boat that's going to Australia. It is the treasure. No, the treasure's not built yet. The treasure's not built yet. No, a currently existing boat is going to Australia. Shit.
Starting point is 01:27:59 I'm going to edit this out. I look like a fool. Eggs on our... They're never going to be on our podcast now, these people we want. Shit. So humiliated. Forever Dog.
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