Podcast: The Ride - Dark Arts at Hogwarts Castle & P:TR Post Office

Episode Date: May 10, 2019

The Dark Arts at Hogwarts Castle is a new projection show at The Wizarding World Of Harry Potter. And we got to see it! Plus, what other hijinks did Jason and Mike get up to while Scott was in Japan? And we answer your questions in a new installment of P:TR Post Office! Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Coming Out Of Their Shells Tour now available at The Second Gate! Patreon.com/podcasttheride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Forever Dog Patronum. It's Podcast The Ride, hosted by three guys who now have all helped a certain raccoon break his friends out of the world's most high stakes gantry lift. Oh my God. I'm Scott Gardner, the bravest guy, joined by Mike Carlson and Jason Sheridan, who proved their bravery long ago, but for me it's hot off the presses. It's done. It's been done. I will keep wanting to interrupt you because I'm still so shocked.

I just wanted to play it real smooth like nothing was going on. It just suddenly struck me and I did it. I'm talking about Guardians of the Galaxy Mission Breakout. Wow. If you didn't know. We all know what happens now. We know about the hand scan. If you didn't know. We all know what happens now. We know about the hand scan. His hands don't scan.

That hands don't scan. My hands don't scan. It's a lot. My hands do scan. I need to get the clearance so you guys can get up the lift or whatever he says. If you know anything about biology, you know that raccoon hands don't scan. Famously. You'll learn that in school raccoon hands don't scan famously you'll learn that in school my hands don't scan i always like he goes like up on that one i feel like when he's doing all my

hands don't scan they never do i need your help my name's rock go right through well when when the fuck did you do this scott um uh i was at the park yesterday I was wondering if this was the day because I, if you heard the Tokyo episode, I braved the Tower of Terror. I liked it so much. I did it three times, all told. But still, Aaron had warned me, Guardians more intense, definitely more intense.

For sure. But I had a trick up my sleeve, which was drinking a lot of wine. Oh, yeah. Which certainly helps to soften what was scary about it. All it took was two glasses of Chardonnay and a red trolley ale. And suddenly I was blasting off with all my buds with, you know, Strong and blue girl and all of them that's not so much a trick so much as a lifestyle so hey it's okay if it works yeah um i well everyone this is now

i think the third in my trilogy of bravery uh in that now i have you know i tony got me on splash mountain uh i started doing incredible coaster and then tower of terror and i guess then relatedly guardians of the galaxy this was sort of like the so now the last one yeah yeah now i'm prepped to go on you know the 10th scariest six flags ride and still be really fucked up from it scary by design and by like a 15 yearyear-old running it. Oh, yes. Yeah. I'm almost more scared of the rickety-ness of a lot of those rides. Because these things are all scary but smooth.

Boy, that was one thing. In Tokyo, doing Space Mountain and having Space Mountain be like rickety again was definitely upsetting. It's a more, it's tamer than other Space Mountains and yet more upsetting. Because they haven't had the track redo. But anyway, it was, what I was getting at was that alcohol was involved in all of these bravery situations. But, you know, I needs my medicine, I guess. But, you know, as I go forward, I think I can get to where I only need like a beer and a half to go on these scary work your way down that's the way yeah yeah uh so you did it once i did i did it

the once um i got uh burning love was my sequence uh though i was yelling the whole time and everyone was yelling the whole time i feel like i barely heard the song and there's a lot going on but i kept my eyes open a lot more than i thought yeah i i was i really thought the tower of terror was in japan was going to be the gateway for me because now i could like if i if i was freaked out i recognize the space now i know where the handles are the view will seem familiar to me so i looked it all made but definitely more intense, for sure more intense. I had been so afraid with my no launch queen history. I was afraid like this is a drop ride and a launch combined worst case scenario.

But that part really didn't bother me, actually. It still is drops are the are the big thing yeah um and in this case i think what ended up bugging me the most is that you like as opposed to tower tokyo has like three drops ultimately and you do feel like you get like solid footing here and there guardians you're up and down and up and down and they wobble you in between too oh yes even when Even when you stop. That's a very good point. Even when you are stopped quote unquote in the show scenes. You're never really at rest. Right.

And it worked out fine. Especially with the cloak of wine. Here's what I will say. Going to bed last night. I was a little like weird from it. Really? Does this make any sense? Does this sound familiar at all?

I feel as if. I was just thinking in my is like if i had been in a centrifuge i would probably be having weird phantom feelings later in the day but i was having like weird nausea dizziness way late way delayed like at the end of the day that's weird doesn't sound familiar at all no i'm trying to think i mean if you're not used to it i can kind of see that that might be it's like sensations that are new to me yeah also do you think you're tense how tense are you on it i was probably pretty i'm like i'm digging in on those handles for sure i bet that's it yeah i bet that's sort of the feeling of like it's sticking with your body is when you're tense.

Because when you're in a car wreck, they say you're not supposed to tense. Obviously, how are you going to ever figure that out? Like I don't know how to do that right in the moment. But I bet it's similar where like your body, like since you were so tense, it's like got the memory of it. And you're like reliving it a little bit. Well, and in my like, as with all of these things, you know, Space or Splash Madden freaked me out because I was scared of the Ernest special. Tower of Terror has freaked me out for a long time because the one time I did it in 2005 was so crazy. It was way too advanced for me, thrill-wise.

And I totally freaked out. And I think I couldn't find the handles. And I was clawing against the cage wall. Which is why still, in both towers, I went... Aaron was like, do you want to go against the wall? And was like no no no no no so you don't want scared of the wall i think from i uh my first experience i'm still like yeah i have like like you know uh like weird shattered uh memories from that like because that seems comfortable to me if you're scared it's like the back corner wall sort of i think i really think i i think something happened and i

couldn't find the handle and then i was like trying to find it later and clawing against the wall as if trying to get out of a cage doesn't that sound scary yeah you see why i wouldn't have kept doing it yeah a caged animal trying to escape that was me in 2005 but today 2019 wow um mr triumph which is one of the names of one of the guardians correct as far as i know mr triumph that's he's played by uh um john cena oh yes that's what i thought a mo-capped john cena yeah and he's very small he's like two feet tall they mo-cap squish him right yep i haven't seen the films so i'd uh mr try this is a billion dollar franchise you're just giving away right now

i do have to say um uh some of the seats you get the music better like some of the seats you hit the speakers better. Yeah, a lot. Because in the back, I think you don't hear it as well. Okay, that might be true. None of these times now have I been in the front row I would like to be. Now, you were saying that maybe the way to break me out of it is just like ripping through three in a row. Yes.

I think from the nausea, which in a way I still feel right now as I record this, I think three in a row yes i think from the nausea which in a way i still feel right now as i record this i think three in a row would would fuck me up i think that that's too much like gravity shift for me or something i guess yeah i think it was just sort of the because because being comfortable is the issue so i don't know like it depends if that would make you comfortable or not because yeah i guess if you're having like war flashbacks right now still that's the word i was searching for yes well still from 2005 it's ptsd did you how soon after had you when had you eaten uh i i had a pretty hearty churro probably an hour before okay which by the way i another thing tokyo Disney taught me, churros with stuff on them, better

than regular churros. We had this Nemo churro that was so good, and Aaron got a birthday churro that's available right now. So much better than regular churro. Got a lot of fun churros right now. It was like a sugar cookie combined with a churro. No more plain churros for me. I've learned my lesson.

Well, that price price that price keeps going up you know it is a ton of money for a one stick that is certainly true you get the same amount of food at taco bell and they're like cinnamon sticks for like 79 cents or something for like seven dollars disney uh at universal a butterer with tax is up to like $8. They were like $5. Oh, really? I had nothing to compare it to. Hey, again, prices in Tokyo, pretty reasonable.

That yen conversion, I do miss that. But anyway, I'm doing it. I think it's in the rotation, despite my, I guess what still is my current PTSD. We'll obviously do a full review after, you know, you're totally comfortable. But just overall, from what you saw through the, like, very closed eyes, what did you, just an overall impression?

I watched a lot. I really did. I swear that I did. And the photo will attest to that. There is a photo. I need to download it. And the photo will attest to that. There's a photo. I need to download it. But yes, eyes open on the drop. It was great.

All the scenes are great. I have no idea what's going on. I haven't seen these movies. But it's very manic. But a lot of fun. Love the screens. They look good. It is such a bright, sharp kind of screen.

That might be the best looking current theme park screen, I would say. Maybe so. screens uh they they like they look good it is such a like bright sharp kind of screen that might be the best looking current theme park screen i would say maybe so i can't compare i don't know like about the like you sort of supplemental screens on avatar but yeah um it could be those might be better but yeah i boy they really boomed through the room i guess I prefer Tokyo and the idol and all that. Sure, yeah. But story-wise and scene-wise. But I like that they're different flavors. I don't know why, with everybody fighting to keep it Twilight Zone,

and by fighting I mean complaining and having no power to do anything about it. I really like that they're all different. That it's the same genre of ride that now in two places is Twilight Zone, in one is this totally original story about a high tower and one is a franchise. It's like how I really like that there's, all the Haunted Mansions are a little different

and then there's Phantom Manor and then there's Mystic Manor. Yeah, yeah. So I don't know know they're just totally different flavors i have no complaints i'm not upset about plot holes in the in the ride i feel fine uh um yeah i don't know how do you how do you feel about uh i mean i know you like the ride a lot uh do you feel similar um compared to twilight zone yeah i mean i think especially with what we said what we've said before where it was like that was the weakest one or one of the weakest ones of tower of terror

so yeah this is much better i think the ride itself is longer and is the most fun of the actual physical sensation of dropping i like that it's crazy and it goes up and down and yeah it's always different i seriously am like feeling it in my body It's like I'm coming down from some trip Really? That's insane It happened to me as a kid If I went boogie boarding for a long time Then I'd be going to bed and I'd be feeling

Like the phantom motion of the waves Way later in the day I've had that on a boat Okay yeah yeah yeah it's similar to that yes Cause you do go up and down And when you're up and down and when you're up and down in between the drops it is a little bit like an ocean like a little bit of a like you're on a boogie board or like uh yeah you're just sitting idly in a boat you have no firm

footing this also combined with i'm still not that far out from my tokyo trip i've had tokyo disney dreams every single night since i left just constant wow uh including that when i got home i was so weird and jet lagged that i took a nap immediately at two in the afternoon and there's just like yeah yeah um yeah fuck me up for a little while but in the afternoon there's just like yellow golden light flooding into the room, which turned into dreams about Easter and Gudetama and all of the egg content in Tokyo. I had wonder. They've all been great dreams. Yeah.

I want to stay in this place where I'm like, I get to still live in Tokyo in my dreams for a third of every day. It rules. That sounds great. I had a dream. I couldn't find the dog last night. And I woke up like in A panic an angry panic Like who let him out

If only you could go back to your beloved Checking dreams oh that's the best I've said on the show before did I say I Had a dream about Star Wars Land Hotel Where it was like a really realistic Star Wars Land Hotel where you'd had to get like decontaminated Before going into space and you were like Naked in showers Jesus Horr horrifying a famous hallmark of the star

wars films well i mean like it was like a weird sci-fi movie but like how you would actually maybe have to get decontaminated and it was like a real brutal gross process checked up your butt uh no but nothing in the butt but i was naked and oh yeah my shame my shame was that's what you call it right with an audience of like 500 stormtroopers who all like point at you there were stormtroopers but they weren't pointing but there were just a bunch of other humans all like naked walking through these like bleak corridors uh that's the oh yeah you sound like you're doing better in the dreams department than i am uh they've been pretty nice lately, and hopefully Guardians helps keep that up.

Anyway, I'm sorry. I know how this is supposed to go, is that we're supposed to stretch this into four episodes of content. But instead, what I do is I drink a beer, and then I do the thing that scares me. It's working for me. And hey, this podcast has made me get over fears that i've had for decades yeah and if it feels great uh good justification to do it well we'll draw we'll draw out you going on all like six times in a row to get all six songs or something like we'll make that an event maybe today we'll have to do all six oh that's good or monsters after dark which is my favorite

of all the profiles do you think it's is it well is it more intense and does it being generally scarier affect the the thrill level i think it's scarier because you don't know what the song like you can't latch on to like i know this song it might be a song that never ends like does this song go for 24 minutes kind of doesn't it's much like comic books are all second act as we're all about to learn or have learned at this point uh with no real conclusion the monsters after dark song just repeats and repeats i love it um yeah uh no it's the same ride profile as one of the six it's just a different song and then the vibe inside is a little different and it's cool. Yeah. But it's, it's as far as actually physically being on there,

it's not, it's not a ton scarier. It's a little, it's like, it's not, I think ghost galaxy is even a little scarier, honestly. Well,

that last hit at the end. Yeah. Dear God. Ghost galaxy is a little scarier. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh,

all right, well I'll keep building and then, yeah, maybe this is, maybe I've built up to where I have like a six flags handicap. I have like a yeah, like a 15 handicap as far as you got to grade me on a curve when it comes to real thrill rides. But I'm getting there. Progress. Great. Yes. So happy to report it. And that's just one.

That's just one part of a little grab bag episode that we're doing where we'll answer some of your questions. But first, you know, still some business to take care of post-Tokyo. You guys were up to some stuff and I don't even know what it was. I hear there were some dark arts involved, but some other adventures as well. Hey, as the ride would say, hit me with your best shot. What do you got? Very good segue uh yes so universal hollywood very kind to invite podcast the ride to a press event for the new dark arts uh what's it called dark arts

at hogwarts castle dark arts at hogwarts castle it's a new nighttime projection mapping show although that kind of undersells like what it is a little more than that they sort of i mean they've done a few projection kind of shows on the hogwarts castle um and this one i think they they plussed up their own thing like there's a lot more effects there's some fog effects uh fire there's fire and the grand finale which you know scott you know what the grand finale is do not all right spoiler alert uh jump ahead a few minutes so you don't want to hear about this um it's a massive fleet of drones that forms an uh i believe patronus yeah patronus which is like an elk

and it moves it lifts its leg i should show you a little clip here i thought it was just gonna be like oh yeah look at your it's drones it's like twinkling lights but then it formed a shape wow i lifted its leg so this is where finally the drone technology we've been hearing about for a long time really there's been like a quiet drone war between disney and universal and it seems like universal one we got it universal one yeah disney was testing out a holiday kind of drone show at disney springs it was pretty um short but i think this might be the first in park one and a good place to do it universal hollywood because you have a whole empty movie studio backlot to take off and land those those things from due to tax breaks happening in other states and

countries it is an empty studio lot so well it's plenty of room to do whatever they want just avoid the set of superstore the only show that exists yes um but yeah it was very cool uh to see i took some pictures but it's it's nighttime it's hard yeah it's hard to sort of see i mean i don't like can you see that scott can you move over to the left visible you see it at all uh only the tiniest oh i see oh i see the elk well from here it just it looks like a magic eye but i'm sure it's much brighter oh look oh my god it turns its head in a very subtle manner. Lifts its leg. It's really quite impressive. Takes a piss.

Flowing really realistic drone piss. Sure. Gets shot by a hunter. A hunter's drone arrow. Its son cries. Yeah. Now, of course, like fireworks, drones have their own issues. I've heard nights where they do the show, but because of the winds that we've been having in L.A., they haven't done the drone sequence.

We also saw a little inadvertent behind the scenes because a helicopter flew by probably more than a mile away. And I think the drones have automatic warning lights. So as they were resetting, it kind of of popped up but they were pretty far out of view at this point they were headed back to base they were a helicopter flew by and all of a sudden they all shot up like turned red and we're like oh that wasn't supposed to happen no that was scary at the end it was yeah after the show was over so uh and honestly for what we like was more cool they were like yeah yeah we want to see we want to see the seams yeah and know about the safety procedures yeah the show is one thing but what happens if they

get shot at right yeah we wanted to warn the helicopter too but a fun a nice show a good length it's like uh yeah they did it before but it's like uh is it dumbledore talking is he dumbledore talking and then voldemort shows up and destroys the castle yeah so it's like, is it Dumbledore talking? Is he? Dumbledore talking and then Voldemort shows up and destroys the castle. Yeah. So it's like, the idea is that they're just getting attacked by Dementors and Death Eaters. And then there's like spiders crawling up the castle and skulls and then like magic sweeps it away. The storefront of Borgin and Berks, the Nocturne Alley, which I was reading about because I was like, well, how does this place still get a lease if it's where all the evil people buy their stuff?

And the reason is that in the Harry Potter universe, it acts as like a pawn shop. And so that's what they. That's their front. That's like, yeah, that's the justification. And but it's always there's always stuff being sold or bought there or discovered there that has larger implications. Um, but the projections, yeah,

the projections are very cool. Um, fire because they shoot fire out of the castle essentially. Um, let's see here. I'm looking, scrolling through it. Yeah.

It's, uh, it's pretty scary. The music's very cool. I do think it's like, um, with the Disney castle, uh, projections, through it yeah it's uh it's pretty scared the music's very cool i do think it's like um with the disney castle uh projections it's like they're not uh destroying the castle or like attacking it really so it's like they they change the castle to look like different stuff but it's

it's kind of it's less narrative okay and this show is a little bit more narrative i kind of my only maybe one plus up would be like i'd love like more like little wizards like saving the castle yeah because it's kind of just like puts itself back together as the lights come on and you're filing out yeah but that's a real minor gripe i mean what are we gonna have tiny little projections of wizards on little brooms yeah maybe doing a little cleanup effort yeah doing a little cleanup um it's hey the the fact that they are willing to be a little more like scary violent with it that's that's the universal voice yeah in action yeah and uh i think it's neat that they are expanding their nighttime offerings because the history of universal had this might be a weird fun second

gate episode is like all of their attempts at nighttime entertainment yes because there are a few and i don't they're pretty spotty there's a lot that happened for six months and were never tried again i know for a while they had the magicians the pendragons doing shows every night i mean i guess halloween horror nights you know is a big nighttime yeah uh but i feel like they've tried and in florida too like phantasmic-esque things along the stunt shows along the lagoon or whatever but they've never really found one that sticks and i think it's cool that harry potter's the opportunity for them to do their version of a firework sure yeah hollywood's kind of in a weird spot where there's so many neighborhoods around it and a major freeway and so they can't really

shoot off fireworks every night uh well our friend lives over right across the street and when he takes his dog out he said he can just see the draw you can see the elk whoa like you just see it so like you can obviously view a lot of this stuff from very close nearby it's a weird thing in general that living around here that whenever you're driving on the 101 very often you see like a flare go up from water world or yeah we're at night it's like a brief hit of harry potter fireworks yeah and you're coming down olive or barham just one of the many benefits of living in los angeles california get out here if you don't live here already it's plenty of room get out rents are great it's one of the few yeah the rents are so good it's one of the few things that's like

in a montage sequence in a movie where you're like this is a busy studio set like or even just like montages of like people in la it is one of the things where it's like yeah stuff happened movies are made excitement you know absolutely yeah yeah you feel that hollywood energy um hey to that end have you guys seen that ad for the jurassic world ride where like the back lot goes chaotic and all of the like every type of movie and show is running away from the indominus yes like show girls and vampires and astronauts yeah they are making every type of movie yeah it's kind of corny but i of course i do always like that in any peewee muppet show or muppet movie blazing saddles kind of setting where all the movies are happening on the lot yeah i do i don't know it is a nice little callback it worked on me yeah it's good it's

got also in that little it's got what i assume is a scene too at the end from the ride the like cracking glass yeah that's i think that's the first i think that's the first scene like the first section that's my guess and then on the on the newest mice chat podcast i believe doug barnes lets it loose that uh this is a very scary ride that this give this ride like people are concerned in the company of how scary jurassic world going to be. Like he says, I think on Mice Chat that he wants to, like there's some people that are thinking maybe we have to dial this back. Ooh, it's their

alien encounter. Yeah. Oh my God. We gotta get there soon then. Whenever they open it. I hope they don't, I hope they dial it back a couple weeks after the press event. I mean, I was always scared on that ride i'm still a little bit freaked out when the dinosaur when t-rex comes out at the end yeah i'm imagining what

the difference might be now is that it's going to be dark it's going to be very dark there's going to be a lot of like all of a sudden lights shoot up and there's a dinosaur it's a horrible noise and like because the lift hill is pretty much lit in jurassic park so i'm guessing that it's gonna be a lot of dark scares the whole way scares the whole way uh a lot yeah a lot less open air well i'm not gonna be able to do it because i don't have a pass right now and that is the reason it is not that i am scared i obviously am very brave from my guardians news so it really is just a logistics thing with the past and otherwise i'd be there in a second it's just i can't i can't make sense to me just can't pull that right now no the great thing is though we have such a great relationship with universal studios that will obviously just get

an invite to the press you guys do they know your faces but i'm gonna be there like who's this loser i'm just gonna feel like kind of a third wheel. And you guys don't want that. I could spoil the whole relationship. So I just, I don't know if it's going to work out. I wish, though. I want to see that in Dominus. I want all the scares.

I love scares now, too. Just like you, Mike. Well, look, I know you're a changed man ever since Tokyo. So I believe you. I believe what you're saying 100% that is the reason everyone should don't take any tone that i'm using as anything but the truth right well in a couple weeks so a couple months i mean very soon i think this is opening so we'll see we'll see what happens could we build the saga out of that perhaps we could uh oh boy no no now i'm sure i don't know i'm not saying you're even involved

in the saga i'm just saying we could turn it into a thing true true uh scott ohana means family and family means no one gets left behind what's uh is there a hawaiian word for beer or wine that's oh there's gotta be a jurassic world beer that they're introducing now with the new land oh i would hope would change the equation jurassic uh i know we already said piss on the show jurassic piss i was gonna like it's the piss of a rare dinosaur why savanian brontosaur oh yeah i haven't really touched on the idea in any of the movies of someone wanting to eat the dinosaurs right you know what let's get that feels like a missed opportunity. Let's get on the phone with Trevorrow and let's see. Maybe we can get that idea in four.

The eating the dinosaurs. There's like some rich guys that want to eat the dinosaurs. That's the whole movie. They didn't work as weapons and they didn't work as pets. But now another auction. We will be auctioning them. These dinosaurs to be cubed and uh prepared for your enjoyment and it's just a movie about people eating them it's not even like a scary adventure

movie it's just it's like just rich weirdos it's like uh chef it's like jean ferro's chef it does sound like a realistic entry in the strangest blockbuster franchise that has ever existed. For sure. One has a woman being murdered for no reason. Two is two movies split down the middle. All right. Barely related films. Gymnastics plays a heavy role. No, we're talking about. He's talking about the Jurassic World franchise.

Not park. Yes, that's true, too, though. I like Jurassic World, too uh yeah it does become like a jurassic park movie halfway through it becomes a haunted house movie um but yeah i didn't i didn't watch the entire thing so i can't i kind of enjoyed the auction i'll say that well the fourth one will be hopefully jason starring and he'll be dining on a T-Rex. Succulent. Delicious.

He'll be doing a voice in the movie as well. I've eaten every animal on this earth and now I can finally say I ate the ones on a prehistoric earth. What if it's like you playing like the owner of Jimmy John's and you hunt them for sport and then you eat them or then you sell them in your restaurant? Oh, that'd be great. Jimmy John's number like 20 is a dinosaur sub a scene standing on the back of an open air jeep going like this is going to be number 22 we got like 10 different names we're trying to settle on where they're yelling

over like the helicopter noise and the car noise right ceratops will pair great on a sandwich with swiss cheese perhaps sauerkraut i don't think uh once we do this we're gonna be losing so no one's gonna be buying turkey toms once we introduce this t-rex toms t-rex toms that's on the list trust me it's all about you crushing togos into the ground yeah sweet sweet dinosaur meat people are trying to be the first now to like cbd and like vegan burgers but the jimmy john's franchise is trying to get the dinosaur first trying to beat their competition sure yeah there's probably a way to clone them to where they have cbd blood also oh yeah that's jason's dream their meat fills you up and their blood gets you high the ultimate animal gosh call trevorrow we'll get we'll talk to him right after this i think

you would buy every one of these ideas oh my god um like and can we add a strange molestation plot well then where then i'm very sold um that's a book of henry reference yes i didn't bring up molestation for no reason that was a reference to the film the book of henry reference yes i didn't bring up molestation for no reason that was a reference to the film the book of henry but you know that you haven't seen it we know you have that is a spoiler about the book of henry uh there's a lot of spoilers i guess in this episode to give the whole movie is spoiled like a spoiled egg or food the one thing i was gonna say tainted meat the one guardians one of the ones guardians characters that's not on the ride is um one of your favorite characters from book of henry dr david daniels oh

yes he plays dr david daniels hello i'm dr david daniels a normal character who seems to have wandered in from a different movie he's wandered in from a soap opera from 1988. Yeah. He's Ronan the Accuser in the Guardians, in Guardians 1 and Captain Marvel. But he's not on the ride. So that's, I would have pointed, too bad is what I'm saying. Very low in Lee Pace content. Yeah.

Who also is in, he's Marmaduke's owner in Marmaduke. Oh, wow. And there is a part where Marmaduke farts and he says, oh, Marmaduke, what did you eat? I hope that's the clip number one in Leapace's acting reel. I hope that that's good. He probably doesn't need a reel. He's a pretty prominent performer. Yeah.

I hope, though, he appears on the, I assume, the Toon Lagoon new e-ticket Marmaduke ride that is coming soon to Islands of Adventure. Can you imagine? It's a screen ride, the most realistic. Yeah, photo reel. You can see every fur follicle. You can smell the farts. You are Marmaduke, and then Lee Pace just scolds you through the whole ride. Look what you did. You're going on a different diet.

I don't want to smell another fart around here. Now we're describing it. This is like a nightmare. This is a dream you would have. Yeah, that really. I'm Marmaduke and Lee Pace is yelling at me. It's Spider-Man Transformers ride vehicle. That technology, but with just scenes of Lee Pace in a kitchen.

And this is your nightmare because you want rides where characters say that they're proud of you. Yes. So a ride where a character scolds you. I don't like it. Bad dog. I don't like it. Is the ride vehicle simulating that you are Marmaduke? Is that what you're saying?

It's Marmaduke's head. Oh, so at some point, we would use the however many degrees of movement to sit on Lee Pace. Wonderful. We'll sit on him because he's a Marmaduke. I love it. Famously a giant dog. Giant dog. Not as big as Clifford, but pretty big when you consider the sizes of normal dogs.

Bigger than Beethoven. For sure. The point of Beethoven is that he's very big. Holy shit. How has there never been a Marmaduke versus Beethoven movie? Oh, man. We're giving away too many good movies. We're going to keep these in our pocket.

That would tear apart the straight to video market. There'd be 10 of those within three years. And then Clifford shows up in the post-credits scene. I'm forming a team of big dogs dogs large dogs all unite to save the world i it's my different voice is very sad i i think you could also do it like the one oh no it's it's mcgruff oh i'm putting a team together but he in this cup first let me make sure you're clean i think you marry ideas like the one fast and the furious post-credit sequence where they're like I'm putting a team together, but pee in this cup first. Let me make sure you're clean. I think you marry ideas like the one Fast and the Furious post-credits sequence where they're like, we just got some weird news.

And then they put down a file folder and it's Michelle Rodriguez's character you think died in the last movie, but she's still alive. But like McGruff putting down a folder with Clifford's picture of like, this son of a bitch is still kicking. He's managed to hide even though he's very big he got big I suspect he got big off of performance enhancing drugs

McGruff and Clifford is the next Hobbs and Shaw it's gonna make we've already got sub franchises the big dog cinematic universe. And everyone can wear those shirts, too. I was going to say he's taking CGH, canine growth hormone. Ah, yeah.

He's hopped up on dog smack and he's ready to bite. But not crime. There should be a bite in your bones these dogs are all too fucking big we need to take them down a peg i like this this is good i really love it like it uh yeah maybe we need to put our heads together i mean like as franchise culture gets weirder and decays yeah i think this is maybe our only ticket is to start just grabbing properties and ride them into hell like just all the way down the tunnel if anyone would let properties be insane i would be so i would i'd be pitching all the time but i'm just people are too scared that's the thing like the marvel and dc universes are so fucking bonkers because they've had to publish however many dozens of comics every month since the 40s and later the 50s and 60s.

But just years and years, decades and decades of oddities and weirdness. And they barely scratch the surface in these movies. I get the sense. I read that. We're about to see this endgame tonight. Very excited about it. I kind of feel like it might be weird. I think I read it we're about to see this Endgame tonight very excited about it I Kind of feel like it might be weird I think

I read it might be weird I'm hoping it's Very weird this is the general narrative As a Marvel outsider the narrative is That the comics are weirder than the movies have gotten To be and you like Marvel as kids Because maybe it's weirder than DC and that's What you're that's like what you're Is that vaguely correct? They're both weird

Both weird more More real lit. Like Marvel got, the Marvel boom in the 60s was like, this guy's a regular guy who gets powers. Peter Parker's a regular teenager. He's got regular teenage problems. The X-Men are teenagers. They're outcasts.

There was more personality in the books. Stan Lee, I think, whether he stole everything from Kirby and Ditko, which probably, whether he did that or not. The one thing I think you cannot take away from him is that his personality was in the book. So there was a kind of a fun tone overall, the whole, that still is kind of on the line to this day. And I think that like, sort of like that personality was a big part of like why i found it a little more accessible yeah sure sure it's like dc i think was not i mean you can find versions of everything now because there's it was just a little stiffer a little safer now dc comics especially in the 50s were plenty weird and looking back on them the

the more stiffness of the stories and the art only enhances the weirdness so it it is like different flavors yeah um so the story i've heard is that uh even though stan lee's stole but before all that he clifford was stolen from him it was his idea so it was like kind of his retribution to his million dollar ticket was ripped from his hands so that's the weirdest idea ever conceived cycles of abuse you repeat the abuse that was done to you yeah it's almost like he couldn't help it um but you still can't uh forgive him no no no of course not um uh well what do we do do you want should we take a quick break well we got a little thing let's let's talk about this real quick and then Should we take a quick break? Well, we got a little thing Let's talk about this real quick

And then we'll take a little break before the mail Okay There's one little quick thing It's not, look This story doesn't have a satisfying ending But so We've been talking for a while There's an organization called the Tias

Oh, no Yeah, Scott knows sort of where we're going here And they have an award show And this is for like basically a theme park organization. It's a trade group. Trade group. Thank you. And they have an award show called the Theas, which is a thing they host every year at usually the Disneyland Hotel.

I think it's probably been there every year. I like that. And that's fun. And I think a year ago I started saying, you know, the three of us should host the Theas. Haha, that's funny. That's a funny joke or whatever. And some people maybe said uh don't do it uh it's too long it's too boring what are you doing wasting your time that didn't dissuade me at all of course but see i i heard that part that part rang true to me but let's hear it again there's parallels in

comics because the eisner awards uh the sort sort of Oscars of the comic book industry, has over the years added more entertainers and comedians as presenters and sort of livened it up a little. And the Golden Globes were very stiff until that rascal Ricky Gervais showed up and took a piss all over all of it. This motherfucker doesn't even believe in God. He's nothing sacred. He's wild uh so like a couple months ago i just said okay maybe we're not going to host this year not this year um but you know podcasts are right we have listeners we have some uh i'd like to think we maybe have some influence or there's

a value to uh bringing us somewhere so i emailed the the I said. And we got a one sheet, you know? We've got a professional presentation. We've got logos, T-shirts. GQ. What? GQ magazine? Wired magazine? Old mania, baby. Yeah.

We got that PR guy who we pay so much money to. We're really taking a bath paying Jacob. Jacob is. Jacob. He's got hustle. Working hard. He can't get us into Knott's Berry Farm We poached him from Broadway World Jacob on staff at Broadway World

Now he's full time podcast PR guy And we were sent back Just saying hey you know we're a podcast We'd love to come and cover the Theas And we were sent An email that I would call Insulting maybe

Kurt You just threw out hey what's up I'm good what's going on We want to host your Theas I didn't say host this was just a cover I just said we'd love to come out To take up seats And these seats cost a great deal $500

They're going on expense accounts Companies are writing them off. Here's the way I figure it. Who's going down to cover these? So we this is the audience of nerds and theme park people who would be like, oh, you know, there's this award show and it recognizes stuff that we all like. So in my mind that sells $ 500 banquet seats easily every for many decades in a row needs our help needs our help sure trade groups famously love publicity about their day-to-day operations um but we were told that our podcast is probably uh they don't think it's a good match

for the theo awards faster than a uh jack jack faster than uh jack jack take it off on the uh credit coaster yeah we got a response saying thanks but no geez yeah yeah so so basically so again this doesn't have a good this story doesn't have a good ending but it's very sad uh was it two saturdays ago yeah two saturdays ago uh lindsey had something to do and jason and i had nothing had nothing to do so we went down to the parks the day the theo words were happening oh oh and we staked it out we did not wear tuxes like i wanted to and try to sneak in um which i know is not good boy behavior but i felt this since this email it would be like cosmically like us getting to see the show would be would make up for the sting of this painful email um so we just kind of like hung out so it was basically in like i guess it's the

main ballroom when we saw there was one security guard standing outside the theo wards like and we were like that's right in there because you saw people in gowns and tuxes this is no this is no goof around this is a real life and to paint a picture directly next door was the dapper days convention yes so people selling like a tie so you had classic evening like tuxedos and gowns and then next to it like suspenders and um uh poodle skirts and and bow tie like the the dappled dapper day kind of look we met a guy we met a listener who was down there down for dapper day dapper days he gave us a little hack too is that they uh the hotels are a discount if you go through like a certain like a trade show or an expo you get a discount so if you were in deparate tickets are like 15 or 10 he got an insane discount and he got a crazy discount

i was like oh that is a good little hack okay um so we as i think as we were coming in i wasn't sure if the people with the curly mustaches and the like hat the cabbie hats were for the theas or for that but then we figured out there were two separate things going on yes the theas were much more square yes like but so so but i would say like there was a room you could see there was a room where they had like a reception area and then the actual ball room i think where the awards took place and after the awards were over they were pumping loud music like there was a loud thump thump four on the floor beats modern music coming out of there so i think there were some people that were still partying yeah but that was the official like cast party the real cast parties are elsewhere you know

you know how it is theater kids i know some of you are listening so what happened was uh we were walking around and all of a sudden like, so wait, basically what is Jason's passes is blacked out that day. Yes. Mine is not. I did the Scott Gierdner trick, went to the monorail and out and started racking up fast passes while Jason and I were eating dinner. Have I said what I learned, which is that then you can't go into Disneyland after I

got in weird trouble from that. If you do that, then the next park you enter has to be california adventure that's interesting because it's like you entered the park twice and that throws off the system so be careful oh interesting but anyway i've done that but it's only been just by happenstance california adventure i've done it like within i somehow got from one of the other in 10 minutes and they're like wait a minute you're already here uh wait i went in and out wait stand here what like a person was called over wow really yeah yeah so just be careful with that okay let's go california venture i guess so um so then we went back and i mean long story short

because this episode is already long uh the after party is at trader's? And the newly expanded Tangaroa Terrace, featuring an outdoor bar patio. Basically, Jason and I sat, and one of us stood, because there was no room, with in the middle of, I don't want to say, maybe a 75 to 100 tuxedoed gown, Imagineer theme park related industry people,

all having like a celebratory drink or wallowing and losing drink and very quickly realized anyone in this organization who has listened to our show and sent us a nice email is far too young and does not get to use the expense account to travel to anaheim that sort of because like look jace and i were really hoping that there would be like some people who have Messaged us over Over the last year and a half Of like oh wow

Or whatever And then we'd be invited To some secret like Cabal Some secret imagineer After party That's it We did round a corner

And run Face Almost smack dab Into the people Or the women behind The Disneyland foodies account Oh yeah yeah That was very nice

To talk to them for a while. Yeah, that was very nice. They were not there for the Fias. They were not there. They were there for just having a good time at Disney. But I think, yeah, at least my... Guys, cut to the... Which Imagineers did you hook up with?

Jason and Bob Gurr. Let me hear those lurid details. Jason and Bob Gurr went back. Well, I hooked up with a delicious steakhouse 55 cheeseburger oh i gotta say that might be the best burger on prop delicious really i would like fried potato like wonderful yeah i had uh i had uh nashville hot chicken yeah which was really good and you can get this in the we were in the bar we were just eating in the bar so basically some people from pasadena who were getting hammered and just kept getting weirder

and weirder as the meal went on i of course had two complaints then sort of at the end of the night basically that we were not involved in in texas and two that we were not having the having the fun of the people that were there so next year i'm not saying we have to host but we have to at least present do a bit in the show where there's got to be some involvement here we have to call on listeners to uh i don't want to say bombard the thea's the tia award uh bother them but but in a nice say you know what we love themed entertainment these are the king these three gentlemen are the kings they would plus up this event like nothing else

the original kings we are wearing comically oversized suits yes original kings of theme park podcast original kings of theme park comedy I think that's right actually I don't think there's any dispute to that so Jason the Entertainer.

He had another nickname. Rest in peace. Wait, no. Bernie Mac's the one who passed away. Oh. Yep. Jesus, Jason. But it's Senator the Entertainer ultimately when things come to that.

I hope he rests in peace. Yeah. Yes, hope we all do. All of us. So we'll be involved next year. That is my hope. Because it honestly, I was jealous of the fun these tuxedo people were having. And I said, wouldn't it be great if we were having this fun too?

And wouldn't it be great if everyone knew us and thought we were great? That's what I was feeling. Well, sure. But you're saying we're having fun, but we're not having their fun two feet over. I had a lovely evening with my friend michael and a terrific meal really good i'm gonna say next year next year i want to be in a tuxedo i want to be getting i want to be people coming up and going that bit you guys did was so great how did you get that cameo from uh uh jeff garland how did uh how wow that's so great you guys are great hey from hondo

let me get the real hondo hey do you want to design a do you want to design one of the rooms on the new avengers coaster like an arm around me you know which character do you want in there huh hey there's a country well it doesn't exist yet because it's still being coup d'etat but they got a lot of money for a little bit of time to build a theme park yeah that's what i yeah exactly you know but you guys there's a there's going to be a hannah barbara land in uh there's a south america country uh yeah that we're building a whole thing yeah in the process of being co-opted um we're not sure yeah so we're building a terminal ride in ironically a country that is going through a terminal sort of limbo. Which Hanna-Barbera property? And I would say, well, the Partridge Family 2025 from Hanna-Barbera's library.

And they go, that sounds like a great idea here. You draw up a plan and we'll do it. That's what I want next year. We're foreclosing Nicolas Cage's island for tax evasion and we're building a theme park there. It's all I want. And you can build a new Marvel McFay. The contract does say there has to be a Mandy ride.

A Mandy ride based on the recent movie. Well, I think this threat is going to get us in there. And if they don't let us in, then we're going to go Sam Bee on their ass and do the Not Your Dad's Thea Awards right next door. It's going to be full of attitude and punk bands. And we're going to take the piss out of the Theas. Yeah, I agree.

All right. Well, we'll be right back. You guys have a lot to think about. And we will get to some of your questions, like one or two all right we are back and we're finally ready to make it not about us but about you we are taking some of your questions we just did a call on twitter thank you for sending them uh and we have a lot in the archive. Send, always be sending. Send us a question every day. ABS, always be sending. We'll get to it sometime in the next eight years.

But I'll be scouring the Twitter. But I know you guys had some archive questions that you were looking forward to bringing up. And I'll look at the new stuff. Yeah, so there's a couple. Yeah, we had these a few months ago. We've called for questions before. These are old questions. This was an Instagram question.

User ThatPappy. And this is a little, we'll get into this when we do a full video. But I like this question. What's the ideal Star Tours video order? Oh. Which is a very fun, I think, question. We don't have to say maybe why. Maybe we give a quick version and we can get into it more when we finally do

Adventure Continues. Yeah, I know. I thought maybe we'd talk about this with Adventure Continues. But I mean... Yeah, just off the top of your head. Off the top of my head, I like Kashyyyk, the Wookiee planet, and I like going to the Gungan City. Oh, Naboo. Yes. Yeah, I like that one. Is Wookiee a first

scene? Yes. Yeah, go i'd go with that or padres padres pretty fun um maybe wookiee though because when he gets stuck to that really fun i i want uh i want bb8 in the middle or yoda i think um and uh yeah i like Gungan I really do it's great I'm no I'm not one of these I like Jar Jar now people I don't let but that planet is so fun and the getting

the like spike of the boat ship hitting you breaking the glass at the end and I didn't realize until recently there's another one where it doesn't I didn't realize it until a year like six months ago wow oh yeah my mind um you know i i you know i think they did a good job with the it wouldn't be my ideal i kind of i got a little tired of the the red salt planet but i think they did a good job with that world um but and i got that in japan but then the uh galaxy's edge setup scene in japan where they are not getting right galaxy's edge it was very off-putting yeah um i

guess it's still it's still promoting tourism to the other spots but um but i like that little scene that gives you a nice little oh i love that but yeah that's that's my ideal order i think i like jack who the like uh you know the where you're tracing the falcon through all the wreckage and stuff from force awakens and stuff yeah um what else yeah i don't know i like acknowledging the mythology of the prequels like whether you like the prequels or not like it does make it feel like a more lived in universe and stuff to go like no that's that exists definitely canon and like yeah that the one food stall coming to galaxy's edge is like yeah it's hot dogs cooked over an old pod racer engine it's like i love it i that's really probably where i'm going first the lava planet in the uh in the the void vr yeah the void yeah i love that so fader's castle so cool uh um yeah absolutely they should keep prequel stuff alive uh and sort

of like repurpose it and do something neat with it yeah um yeah but we'll get yeah we'll hit adventures uh continue in the near future um uh what else we got uh i've got one uh i selfishly picked this one because i kind of have a story related to it michael hidalgo emailed and asked ever gotten sick while on a long distance park trip i recently got hit with the stomach flu while on a week-long trip visiting walt disney world in a similar situation would you force yourself to hit the parks or would you opt for comfort and just take it easy back at the hotel uh what do you think guys ever this ever happened to you i don't think i think luckily i have not gotten super sick uh on a theme park

trip as a child i got sick on the way back once okay a little i was a little kid that's when i had ate a corn dog and i threw up and that's why I haven't Had a corn dog since Which I guess that's maybe my mountain to Climb like Scott's drops and Launches I should Eat a corn dog we should build up to me eating a corn Dog oh you swore off corn dogs really yeah But it was just like as a kid you were like

Oh I don't like corn dogs it made me throw up but it's like It's fried hot dog I've Never been a fan of corn dogs My whole life despite no sickness related to it uh but i the boy the frontier land uh corn dogs uh i only recently started doing in disneyland and they're fantastic disneyland corn dogs great yeah that'd be the one to start with i think i uh did get kind of sick once um well it myself and my brother my brother once when my family was down there in the summer got very bad sunburn i was like grounded for a day or so of like staying in the hotel room

um my brother as a kid always got sunburned or sick on holidays like it became like a running joke in the family i got sick once when i was a freshman in high school when I was down there. I think because I stressed myself out so much that I wasn't going to get everything done I wanted to get done. And it was the day that just me and my dad were going to go from the Boardwalk Hotel over to Islands of Adventure. But I just woke up feeling like death. And I was like, no, we got to go. We got to go. And my parents are just like, go back to sleep.

You're like in really bad shape. And then like, I think I just hadn't been sleep. I had just been like going from sunup to sundown. And I got a few, I slept in until like a few hours and then just had, just took it easy and had lunch. And then I was better and went the next day but it was like i don't know freshman year in high school sucked i think there was a lot mentally weighing on my mind and i'm like you have to have fun now i have to have fun now because i have to

go back to that fucking hell um it wasn't even that bad of an experience compared to some people's high school experience but it was still like oh jesus like i gotta blitz through all this and knowing i had to go back to school the day after we get back sucks it's still not disney world uh there was comfort that i took when leaving tokyo i was the saddest i've been since leaving disney world when i was seven where i just wept and wept uh it was so it was such an embarrassing crying show but i but and i was really sad to leave tokyo but i could take solace in you aren't going back to school right now yeah you don't have to go back to second grade when you leave here it was nice to remind myself um but wait was there a question related to that like what would you do or what what do you what is

your opinion would you take it easy a little or would you just power through? I would have to be real jacked up to not power through. Yeah. I would have to be like throwing up badly. Excuse me. Jeez. I'd have to be like throwing. I'm throwing up now.

As your throat starts to give out. I'm throwing up now. I'm with McGruff's in there. I did McGruff in a bit show a couple days ago and my throat has been different since. Oh, no. off in a bit show a couple uh days ago and my throat has been different since i don't know so so you did like a three minute character piece and scott went on a three minute ride and you're both in bad shit yes i had a 30s the 30s are great your 30s your body treats this is so lame because of the day i ate too many animals on 420 and it took me a couple of days to feel normal

again like you have vegas i got that one day we'll tell the vegas story at a show or something story is wild but i accidentally did that two to three beers and your next two days are shot yeah it's like crazy we had one of the episodes earlier our podcast arrived it was your birthday and you had had three beers the night before and it was the first time you were like brutally late to record and you were like jack real fucked up the last two birthdays we've recorded the morning after and i've been in a bad way again three beers over five or six hours yeah i'm getting to that point though i my my grand total in spread over eight hours yesterday was like three beers and two glasses of wine and i

was like am i gonna have to cancel it's getting that and i'm feeling guardians still in my body i can't go quip on a chair for an hour and a half then there was just an uh an ad on the night call podcast where they were talking about like some new supplement that you can take before you go to bed after you've been drinking to prevent that sort of thing and i'm like i gotta go back and write that name down that might be a good thing to look into to use that code that's funny um yeah i don't know that's a tough one i guess it depends if it's like a crazy if it's a place you don't think you'll go back to if you haven't been there. Right. But also, you know, so many of these places have nice resort property like you got to enjoy the pool. And I would just say like then do a more mellow over. Don't do a jam it all into a front to close day. Yeah. Yeah. Take it easy. Watch what you're eating. Oh, and also, like, Disneyland has doctors on call and, like, an urgent care practically on the property.

Universal has, like, at the concierge, they'll give you... There's phone numbers you can call if you're down in Orlando on vacation and you're ill, and they will connect you with a doctor or a dentist, because my dad had, like, a tooth, like, ache, like, a bad tooth thing go, and they were able to get him an appointment

the next morning and at least get him antibiotics before he could get back home and get the tooth pulled was it like a character was like dr octopus who oh i wish no i think it was just a friendly orlando professional right um yeah so it's all that's a case-by-case basis i think yeah take it easy if you're contagious please uh quarantine yourself to your hotel yeah don't go wear the mask yeah a lot of masks in japan they're probably smart yeah you know what they're doing uh here's a fun one from just on twitter from uh tyler holtz um i might be looking at the same one uh bob eiger has retired and Bob Chapek is stepping down And they've chosen you three

As successors to head The Disney Parks division What is your first order of business We'll talk about this at length At some point but I've probably said it before And I'll say it again Autopia is gone No more Autopia That is a day one decision

And I recently thought of how to split that land up half of it is tron which also extends into where carousel is now that's gone to the other half matterhorn perfectly transitions into either frozen or beauty and the beast frozen's a smoother transition but it's you're you're using some of the Fantasyland side too This new Beauty and the Beast ride I think would fit in great This is what they are doing in Tokyo And it is very smart That is happening day one

Everywhere that it can happen But especially Disneyland Who could object to this plan? Fascinating to hear you pitch IP Like inject some IP and stuff Well, I don't think I'm an IP snob And that Beauty and the Beast stuff looks incredible The Tron ride looks great I mean mean that's what's getting built right and obviously

i'd love to have the aquatopia in there or journey to the center of the earth like i think i don't know i should although honestly i think hey i if i'm the head of the division i'm also i want what the people want to like that's not a weird idea in any way. That's what I don't understand. Why are we holding to the Autopia when we could put in mega crowd-pleaser, people-eater attractions that everyone would love? That is a no-brainer. That's day one.

Day two, we'll figure it out. What do you guys think? Oh, my God. Marvel, X-Men Mansion, two e-tickets x-men's mansion fantastic for baxter building ride full wheel not this college campus marvel land new york city marvel land crazy tickets tons of robots um that's that's what i'm doing yeah jason jason um i uh hmm i don't know i feel like mine are more ethereal i think like more benches i i think like less oversight less oversight for imagineering i mean that's real pipe dreamy because disney's always been pretty um careful of guarding their image and the company

image and stuff but you read about what it was like in the 80s and 90s and stuff is getting built left and right and you know they had budge more budget issues back then but i don't think it's crazy to describe the company now as having unlimited money yeah like there's a few companies in the world like apple and disney i think you could describe as having like unlimited resources so like loosen it up a little like go a little more wild i am not proposing releasing song of the south uh sure i one of the best jokes i have heard recently was someone on a podcast describing self-reflection as a beloved American pastime. And all the hosts started laughing. And I was like, yeah, that's that's true.

And that's why they should not put Song of the South on Disney Plus. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I might give people some new good ideas. Yeah. I yeah, I feel like the worst people in the world would be super jacked for it for the wrong reasons. Plenty of clips of it on YouTube. I think just like, yeah, loosening up.

And I don't want to say like drop prices, but it does feel like Disney has become much more exclusionary to regular people. Or like come and come with money. And that was always the attitude but i feel like you saw a lot more promotions in the 90s and even in the 2000s of like come for half a day come for free on your birthday and maybe that's more realistic to implement in orlando where the infrastructure is a little better and out here disneyland's just so crushed by current demand but i think they should get friendlier with that stuff in California Adventure since they want people over there. And in the past, they've done like a really cheap Costco ticket that's only California Adventure that I really thought about doing.

You know, hey, I'm there for wine and one ride, so where's that good for me? Sure. But like, I do think if they're trying to spread the crowds out more uh um yeah do do some of that make california adventure more people friendly and being that star wars is going to be such a crush sooner yeah and i i kind i kind of like that they're doing the epcot like always running a festival model at california adventure because people seem into that and it is a nice way to like do tasting menus and stuff sure sure but yeah i think a little um a little less hostility to your customers is probably probably my um thing yeah yeah yeah um anybody got uh uh i guess oh wait wait, wait, wait. I was going to say, I like how Scott and I pitched rides and Jason pitched a corporate restructuring. I mean, that's some mayor talk.

Yeah. I mean, you got to think about the big picture. It's a crowd pleaser. Sorry, Scott, go ahead. Oh, it's really fast. This is from Dan BN7 on Twitter. Who is your favorite tiny puppet? Anna Manuel is the answer.

We can move on. I think I was going say tummy oh thanks okay yeah uh uh well tummy's tummy's the heart tummy gets abused and uh tummy needs the most love always was a big gonzo kid oh thanks i'm also really fun i'm thinking about a spin-off with mr fresh juice who's the equivalent of the kool-aid man i have an idea of like a where the fuppets don't factor in and it's only the i'll pass that to the portuguese animators behind fresh juice who's the equivalent of the kool-aid man i have an idea of like a where the puppets don't factor in and it's only the i'll pass that to the portuguese animators behind anything i believe all of them have their own solo projects in development like any any property like joaquin

phoenix joker oh that's it that's like we we have heard through grapevines that like every obscure storyline in marvel and dc is being mined and pitched like right now. That's what's going to start happening in the puppet verse. Anyway, I didn't mean to dominate with that. We'll see if I will have to cut this out. I am getting right now a rumor from a friend. If this is obviously if he doesn't want me to do this, I'll cut this out. Crow's back in Dumbo.

But no, he is saying right now there is a rumor that there will be a jurassic world tiki bar at universal hollywood whoa there we go and now we're talking suddenly maybe i buy brave suddenly i stand face to face toe to toe with the Indominus. Oh, man. You stand the Indominus. Yeah, I'm going to stand up on the ride. We stand the Indominus. Yeah, one Mai Tai and I start doing crazy things. Well, you got to have two as a tribute to Jimmy. Yeah, there's two margaritas he had to save. Oh, yes.

Yeah. Now, can you imagine if that was on the ride? If a Buffett robot ran away? Gosh, now that's a dream. That's probably the answer to one of these questions. What if you were in charge of Universal? What would you do? Jimmy Buffett robot ran away gosh now that's a dream that's probably the answer to one of these questions what if you were in charge of universal what would you do jimmy buffett robot show scene where the uh slightly aloof assistant you've known for two minutes gets dropped into a pool to be eaten um anybody got any well this one is uh uh this is just this one's just for jason um and i'm trying to i've just scrolled past it's an idiot

uh this is from at ben stands what's jason's favorite depression era food even the great depression not when i'm depressed right yeah no i think that yeah they're talking about the great depression hmm that is a great question of depressionary food i i was probably a luxury during the depression um well soup and bread is hard to beat but um this is actually a little pre-depression but uh philadelphia favorite goldenberg's peanutws, which were originally made as a ration for doughboys in the trenches, troops in the trenches during World War I, are a real favorite.

It's just molasses and peanuts and traditionally dark chocolate. You would eat it, you know, when you're on the front and it gives you a little energy boost. That became a favorite Philadelphia treat and has really, like, upped their game in recent years with social media

and publicity and stuff. And now you can get them in Los Angeles. Delicious and vegan. Wow. I am so impressed with the speed and dexterity of that answer. I'm really glad. Always ready to go with a treat. That was asked. Let me keep looking here.

I mean, how do you talk that? I've got an Epcot one from Mark Miskovic. The directive is given to you that you must replace one of the countries at Epcot with a new country. Which country would you choose to get the axe and what would get in? I would nix Canada and replace it with India Says Mark I feel like we can only comfortably say Get rid of United States or Canada

Yeah get rid of United States You can't settle it There's three white guys That are not allowed to get rid of a non White country That's not going to happen I mean obviously there's other European countries It certainly wouldn't be Mexico It certainly wouldn't be mexico it certainly wouldn't be norway

um i mean some of them could get i'd rather get give something an attraction than like it's not as if just the surroundings are so bad i mean how about is germany uh are we allowed to cancel germany oh i see maybe yeah maybe um Because there's nothing going on in Germany. But what do you put in there? I would love... I mean, it was pitch. It was real enough to be on one of the TV specials with Alex

Haley introducing it, right? The Africa Outpost. Really? Yeah, there was supposed to be a whole pavilion, which it's crazy that it was for a whole continent. But I do think like Africa and the Middle East are underrepresented and countries with amazing regions with amazing cultures and food and everything. I think. Wait, what's our ticket to?

Here's what it is. I don't know which country specifically you would associate it with but uh how do you get sinbad in there interesting yes yes part of me all but part of me is a little bit like kind of wants it to stay just in tokyo i do kind of like that yeah you have to make the journey to see the journey yeah but i mean the the morocco the, the Morocco pavilion is very beautiful. And those restaurants are supposed to be very good. And if that Iran pavilion had ever been built, I think it could have gone a big way for like relations between the two countries.

This is tough. All right. Get rid of America. Get rid of the U.s pavilion mark twain shaking hands with can you just leave them like put them on a barge out in the lake move that show to the hall of president that show is better than the hall of presidents oh yeah absolutely swap those bad boys man good point yep um and then then put in Australia. Rescuers down under.

E-ticket. Flying on wing of eagle. Yeah, great. A Soarin'. I don't know if anybody's asking for Rescuers Down Under, but it'll be good when you're on it. You're going to like it when you're on it. Tiny Soarin'. I am getting more details about this jurassic world tiki bar it's on the top of

jurassic outfitters supposedly oh because there's a second level that's a great idea yes all right man you you guys can go there i can meet you with one of those big crazy ice creams they have only an animal on the lower lot. Oh, yeah. Yeah, those are good. That were closed when we were there. And I won't say this part, but I do have a date for possibly the soft opening.

Oh. Is it Lindsay? No, no, no, no, no. Nailed it. Oh. That's you, Jason, of course. That's me. It's Jason and I.

Here's one. Houston Barber on Twitter. If you were in charge of adding a new modern day scene for Spaceship Earth to come after the Steve Jobs robot, what would it be? I've got it. I've got it right away. You have to do innovators and inventors and people who push the ball forward. It would be Del Close inventing the Herald. How near are you?

Del Close robot. In a hoarder's apartment as bob odenkirk described when he went in there it was full of shit it was in the middle of winter and there was a busted window it was just blowing freezing cold chicago air into his shitty apartment eating marijuana flour with out of a cereal bowl with a spoon jesus the story bob odenkirk tells us he saw del close by the way del close invented long form improvisation he taught a lot of like people like bill murray tina fey amy polder they originally used to be people uh yeah and bob odenkirk like i guess he was like a kid and he would just like he was he was interviewing people for a newspaper

and he ran into him in a bookstore and he was like hey you're del close can i interview and get an interview from you and he goes i love it and then like took him into his apartment and then like answered his questions he told him to take a bite out of crime yeah uh i do remember yeah i remember him saying that the apartment was crazy and and uh he yeah he lived in this insane hobble but he was also like you know saying thing after thing that would like uh like as for odin kirk's takeaway being i want to be that age and have something that i can't wait to do the next day uh like because we're gonna do this where we flip this format on its head and then we're gonna do this show and we're gonna combine this with that and he was very into it

still yeah it ended up being a positive that i actually found that to be cool which i i'm a big admirer of odin kirk and i think that is what he's he's like as boy you know that's a guy who's like doing it and relevant and current in his 50s and uh yeah yeah uh so that was ended up being a nice story maybe we should attribute to don't i mean that's the story with any like the actual act of doing of writing or acting or improv and stuff the actual act of doing it tends to still be pleasant it's just the trappings that around it or the things you associate with your memories and emotions is the baggage sure i don't want to keep talking about this bob odenkirk interview about tell close on this theme park podcast but i really like in that interview he also talks about how like when he went to second city the

whoever was running Second City was Giving him like the fantasy answer of like And then John Belushi Got up on stage and he was great And everyone loved him like there was no Like practicality to it Whereas Del Close was like you know you do These are the steps and you're gonna be bad and like

He sort of walked him through it in a realistic Way where it made it less Magical which honestly is something I needed somebody to tell me when i was a kid because as a kid you think oh if you're talented you're talented and mostly it's just like grinding through hard work to try to figure something out it's so much better to hear that heroes are fallible yeah every once in a while there's like a prince or somebody who's like struck by lightning like no one will ever be as talented as that guy but it's not helpful to hear it's how that guy get where he is because he's the greatest ever to do it and you will never yeah i love hearing any stories of like fallibility

of of somebody who ended up being great is uh yeah that's what dell gave him so yeah dell should be in spaceship earth for sure clearly we have legitimate reasons for that but what oh but now i feel gross. What a dorky. Would you rather have like a Twitch streamer ninja dabbing? Like would you rather have the Dolan twins in there doing whatever it is they do? Oh yeah. We need PewDiePie pioneering. Jesus.

Yeah. And early influencers filled the world with compelling, enriching content. Olivia Jade is there. Olivia Jade is there. Lori Loughlin's kid. I mean, I would love a Marin animatronic telling a Barack Obama animatronic of how he almost got updated. But he still hasn't gotten it. Even after talking to Lorne, he still doesn't quite understand.

The new Twain and Franklin shaking hands is Obama and Marin shaking hands. Nothing good happened after that scene and that ride, though. So I don't know what to report. I like the idea that there are robots of Lori Loughlin and Olivia Jade. And then that's where you start going downhill. And you turn it into a thrill ride. Now it's a plummet to the bottom of time. Yeah, one that spins and has an incline.

Like Disney hasn't really done that yet. But that's what it feels like. You fall off a cliff at that moment. Accelerationism. The end of the ride is accelerationism. Everything's getting faster and faster. And the human mind can't process it correctly. You watch whatever Paul coming out of the suicide forest.

And then you see. Logan, that was definitely Logan. and then it's the it's a bigger for you have to dig a basement in spaceship earth you go hundreds of feet into the ground um i was gonna i'll say let's do like kind of a fantasy to the future look like that you were trying to do for carousel with carousel of progress let's have uh let's and we can put ip on it too the wally people in the chairs no yeah because that's technology that's an innovation and now we get ip you know what i know my epcot the you know nerd tradition answer is supposed to be don't touch spaceship earth it's perfect the da vinci guy if they just made that a wally right i'd be so happy that'd be

great and then you get up to the like to the space part and you're watching projections of them playing in the stardust and all that. That'd be wonderful. I love WALL-E. That'd be cute. That'd be better. I guess I'm becoming an IP guy. You're an IP man now. Apparently.

I mean, as long as they bring back figment somewhere, I don't feel like keep epcot as it is decaying and hasn't been touched in decades like wally wright and special birth would be awesome sure yeah i'm fine with that um yeah any other no i'm good with my special birth answer great uh adam framp at a frump adam framp from instagram asked what would you want for a fifth gate in florida and then he said disney's florida adventure and of course haha that's not what we want we don't want that um well i would want the weird i would want like the wikichi springs florida sideshow version of it sure but i don't think the state of florida would be super fond of that my answer for for this is what had been rumored which i remember hearing back when i was 18 that

this was on the table and i don't know i've seen it online too so there must have been some truth to somebody having this idea in the company the disney villains thrill park yeah that's with like maleficent's castle as opposed to the so it's a reverse it's a negative version of main street that always sounded like a cool way for them to do because you were feeling in the late 90s early 2000s that they're getting a little cheaper but so for them to do all right like a six flag style park with less theming would be cheaper but the thrills would kind of counteract that that just seemed like a good like oh that is what they should be doing if they're trying to spend less money i'm surprised it didn't happen i am surprised it didn't happen as well i mean at this point now we don't want the cheap version we want the

crazy e-ticket road coasters yeah and it doesn't even have to be a thrill park but i think that the market people love evil people love haunts people love horror so give us the disney version of it and you could have the the amount of halloween events of a halloween events year round you could throw in just this park alone i really think it's a great idea i would still like to see i mean i've watched a few videos on it now and it's crazy that it got so far to be in the promotional materials but the beastly kingdom part of animal kingdom still looks great um yeah i don't know i'm very curious to see what that that new universal park is going to be like the theme park university had a whole like this might be interesting like a main street city walk hybrid with the hotel at the end to

not block the view and like four different portals that you pay for one ticket but you have to go back out to that main street to get into each land like the idea of of uprooting what we think of like how the parks are designed and function is interesting to me if they can get away with it yeah i agree beastly kingdom yeah it sounds Sure, sure. What do you think? Disney Sea. I'm so in such a Disney Sea haze. Oh, I got this. Disney Swamp.

It's essentially the same, but the water's all green and brown. Yeah, swampy, shitty water like in Florida. All right. I got a little distracted by this one, which I think is, I'm like, do I know my history well enough to answer this but i like the question peter page asks best five-year run of a creative group universal 2010 to 2014 had diagon and hogsmeade disney 92 to 96 had uh dlp tower and uh indiana jones my vote is disney 60 70 71 pirates mansion and disney world uh i think for us the baxter run of yeah you know uh big thunder star tours splash mountain but you gotta go five years oh five years shit so i think you know you gotta include the famous breck eisner moment where

uh both uh star tours and uh and splash got approved um i think disneyland was at its best a lot of great stuff what would my years be on that is it like 84 to 89 yeah a ton of the stuff that looms really large to me oh that's when all the star tours is happening i think we're about to hit another five year thing hmm yeah it feels like five years for both companies we're about to we're at the start of like very big fives whenever um whatever would overlap with uh radiator springs and the general improvements of california adventure i think a fantastic run. That culminates in like 2012, all of that opening, I think. But stuff gradually started in like 2010, 2011.

Can you find a five-year window that also then intersects with like Avatar? The mid-2010s have been pretty strong. You know, I follow Disneyland stuff. Growing up on the east coast i followed it so rarely only when it was in specials or the magazines and stuff but for me as a kid from like uh 89 89 was opening of mgm studios right 89 to 94 where you saw tomorrowland 94 like um that tomorrow like yeah that's a good stuff opening in florida lots of hotels opening like toontown which came out of the gate pretty strong yeah um what else

is early 90s and i honestly when they built all those 90s hotels that's a dorky answer but like yeah yacht and beach club grand floridian swan and dolphin they're all really cool we love the boardwalk hotel strong 90s uh hotels in addition to the ride to the um uh you know the theme park's getting better i think maelstrom you'd put in that run too oh yeah one uh that's that's a little generic but i think the first you gotta you gotta put baxter in there i think the baxter or or when disney world opened that five-year trunk. Sure, sure. That's pretty good.

I remember, I'm just reporting news from other theme park podcasts, but on one of the Jim Hill podcasts, I think he reported that Breck Eisner was going to be directing the Creature from the Black Lagoon in the original Dark Universe. Whoa. Huh. Interesting. Obviously, that fell apart and now it's Blumhouse for those characters. Boy, that could have been fun. All right. Well, let's get like one or two more yeah uh let's see here um guilt somebody just said stollywood which we haven't been to yet um how many okay here this is a quick one how many of those cute wadto plushes are you planning on buying when Galaxy's Edge opens?

One. I'll say one. Reasonable answer? They're pretty tiny, right? Like, they're little guys. Yeah, I would, you know what, I've been looking at a lot of the pre-opening press and stuff, and I'm like, I don't know what souvenirs I really need from here. I think the Toydarian, like, the toys that look like they were hand-sewn look pretty cool.

But I don't know if I would get anything. Maybe if there's like metal, metal like desk stuff. I don't know. I try to buy. Do you want a nice paperweight or a pen set? I almost said paperweight. And then I knew you would roast my ass. Either something has to be really pleasing to my aesthetics to buy in a theme park now

or needs to also serve a practical purpose. I'll take the Black Spire Outpost three-hole punch, please. Michael, when was the last time you used a three-hole punch? Not me, it's for you. It's on PDFs now, baby. I like to print it out. I like to hold the paper in my hand. I remember film school professors saying, like like make sure to have a box of

brass brass uh brads at home right that's what they're called to put scripts together which if you bought one then you still have all those brads today 2007 yeah i have there's things like that like q-tips and stuff where you like well the one the the package that i bought 15 years ago is still what i have um uh so if they have q-tips i'll get to galaxy okay great yeah get some toiletries we got a good uh i've got one um what okay final is a good final one yeah i think so okay good from uh winst winstinius on. What's the single theme park experience you want to have but have not yet? Be it a ride or exclusive club or walk off or for Jason, some tasty treat.

Okay, well, I do have other interests. But my answer would probably be... Contain multitudes. Eating at Victoria Albert's at the Grand Laredy. Uh-huh. Yeah. I mean, it's tough. There's too many. There's not one.

Obviously, just Dollywood in general is pretty high up there, but like going on Mystic Manor in Hong Kong, I think about often. There was an extra park there to really entice me to go there You just have to deal with the city of Hong Kong

Well and that'll be fun too I just like knowing there's like an extra Disney Sea is such a great thing Yeah it needs more They're building it up now In a couple years I think it'll be a little more special But it's a little Chintzy

At least it had been for years um tron's out there for me yeah yeah yeah uh and soon at disney world but now i'm just i'm also trying to think off of getting off of rides and what's just like transcendent uh experience we got to do club 33 that we honestly, we've been having some good ones. Yeah, talk to Tony Baxter. Go to Club 33. It's like so many have been checked. Yeah, thanks podcast. I guess like working

an hour on like Haunted Mansion or something would be like... You want to work a shift? I want to work a shift in the Haunted Mansion. Fish some ashes out of there, Mike. Yeah. Somebody dumped ashes mansion um i would like fish some ashes out of there mike yeah somebody dumped ashes again uh i would like to go in all of those locked buildings we were not taken into at disney imagineering like we saw the public face it we saw the lobbies in the manor hall

hallway in the cafe in the store but i want to see those where i'll sign ndas i would like to lead a team of imagineers building a ride is that rude does that count i'd like to be in charge i guess that's partly uh well i still haven't been to japan so i got all you gotta go to japan yeah i'm not sure i think this this uh second gate episode will have come out by now but you will have if you check out the second gate and please do you may have heard about my fondness for the pan-galactic pizza port and tony solaroni if i could spend if i could do a full loop of that experience in tony solaroni's chair just let me sit up there for 20 minutes with like a jelly a jelly drink a jelly sparkling drink or whatever they sell that sounds nice yeah um they got those alien mochis there so just give So just give me a handful of mochis

and let me experience what Tony Soloroni experienced. Japan is light years ahead of us when it comes to treats and snacks. It's unbelievable. My final idea is that we could record a live podcast at Cosmic Rays on the stage with Sunny Eclipse. That's pretty good. That would be great.

I mean, it's never going to happen. Sure. I mean, just the other day, the disney uh executives was talking about the nice thing about owning fox now is like the characters in west side story can smoke we can't do that with the disney smoking band and it's just like what what are you talking about what is going on so yeah that's a real pipe dream to let uh us foul mouths on the stage at a we could clean up the restaurant yeah we'd clean it up but the reputation i mean we did a legitimate run of his backwards planet names that was not even i mean there was some reference to uh you know to lynn bodden and

some dark stuff but we'd clean it up i find sunny eclipse's comedy legitimately funny uh i find tony solaroni funny as well so yeah we can we will play in there we'll play ball yeah yeah oh no we can play ball i just you gotta convince the sharp pencil boys in burbank because they say well you know what here's one more i want cranium command to come back and i want us to be some of the body parts. Us and some of our favorites. You get a Mundy in there. You get a Bugsy in there. Oh yeah. He's like the bad.

He's like I'm the bad thoughts that you hide all the way in the back of your brain. Maybe you should just go masturbate instead of going to school. I might should go nut a little while Have you seen the squid in the whale This isn't going to help us get Disney on our side

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