Podcast: The Ride - Dinosaur

Episode Date: May 8, 2020

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Forever. Dog. Warning. The following podcast contains possibly outdated information about public health. Condiment pipes. Two of the most popular characters in fiction, Aladar and Kron. And a robust discussion about the Animal Kingdom ride, Dinosaur. Get to your time, Rover. It's Podcast the Ride. Welcome to Podcast the Ride, a theme park podcast that's specialty is not time traveling, but time wasting.

My name is Mike Carlson. Joining me as always, Jason Sheridan. Yeah, I'd say that's accurate. Scott Gairdner also joining us as always. Yeah, sometimes I feel like we've traveled several years in time and it's just been several hours exactly that's the magic of this podcast you don't know where the time went i also think uh you know also not knowing what time it is i don't know if people are hearing this still in covid lockdown times but ever without commutes i i feel like some of these episodes are taking you know several months to get through yeah you're saying depending on the listener if you used to like have a 45 minute commute somewhere and that's how you absorb the episodes and you don't have that anymore

then yeah you could still you might be back on like a fe episode, many, you know, in June. Right. It's like five minutes a day now is really all the time you have to yourself to listen to podcasts. Whereas before, yes, you could like rip through three podcasts in a day. Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. So I don't. Yeah. And if, you know, if people are too nervous to go on walks or whatever, then you really aren't absorbing it. So if the only way you have to listen to it is moving from the kitchen to the bathroom, then just start doing it way more often because we need you to get through these.

Should we get, I mean, but should we maybe just make the episodes all 15 minutes long, like rip right through it? Be like, okay, this is about dinosaur. It's a rocky ride vehicle. I like rip right through it be like okay this is about dinosaur uh it's a rocky ride vehicle i like it but it's scary uh jason what do you think wrapping up uh great great to see dr seeker and dr uh the other one okay scott final thoughts uh yeah you know guanodon's uh you know it's nice to rescue rescue him, but that Garnosaurus is super scary. But at the end of the day, it's a lot of fun. Okay, well, you've survived the podcast, right? And that's like, that's about all the people have time for, honestly.

It's what we have to do. But hey, come on, man. Are you saying we're not going to take time to talk about Dr. Seeker? Oh, man, maybe. If I really think about it, I gonna take time to talk about dr seeker oh man maybe if i really think about it i guess we have to talk about dr seeker for over 90 minutes we gotta talk to dr seeker some people are still taking walks doing that wonderful activity of jumping into the street when some lunatic is not leaving your room on the sidewalk well especially if it's a jogger the jogger they've i've seen you know we've all seen the articles about where the jogger leaves like a trail of germs in their wake yeah i i saw someone

posting from france where the mayor of paris was like please stop jogging that has not really happened in los angeles although been kind of gloomy here anyway so kind of scaring people inside uh even besides the quarantine is the way you leave a you leave a trail of like ribbons of germs behind you're exhaling more yeah yeah since you're going so fast it's like kind of like you're almost like crop dusting with germs because you're going so fast like if you were just like walking at a normal pace and you like exhaled it would sort of like linger in the air a little bit and it would fall but since you're jogging it's like you're it's like a a water an air and water show with like x like the fumes from a plane as you're like streaming down a sidewalk it's like going everywhere so again supposedly jesus every day is a new

new thing to make us more paranoid i don't want your god i don't want this to be too much focused on what's going on right now we need to talk about dinosaur but i did finally see an article just now that said we don't have to you know pour bleach all over our groceries and not like another definitive article because that was another concern we've all had is like how much we need to disinfect our groceries when they come inside so well yeah that was my favorite era of it when people saw one video with one doctor who told us that we need to like scrub each carrot we have to do like an hour-long uh massage we have to do a bath bomb for every carrot and then everyone took that as

as the bible because he is a doctor after all right um so that was that was a fun couple days living in carrot bath paranoia but like people need to remember like dr drew is technically a doctor and he was saying this was no big deal for about three months prior so just just take everything with a grain of salt is what i'm saying yeah trust dr oz not dr drew no no dr oz was saying it wasn't a big deal either dr phil dr oz uh dr feel good those are the doctors to trust well we all like dr feel good we all like dr feel good did they never steered us wrong did they fully did they debunk the ibuprofen thing too wasn't that like one yes one french one french dipshit like god everyone's scared of ibuprofen i

believe i believe the headline was french dipshit gets it wrong i think that's what i read but i repeat myself right was that a french accent i can't hear it very well over the zoom so no no that was just like a kind of accent okay yeah you were like like an upper crust voice you were doing yeah or like an exhausted kind of voice i see uh yeah okay so anyway you know uh dr dray says just chill till the next episode and maybe that's the best doctor advice you can take yeah i i'm into that yeah let's just all chill to the next episode of life yeah i think he's right on about this yeah and obviously i'm getting high as fuck every day of this thing yeah me too and what i mean by that is i have a white claw and uh a kombucha that's what i that's my that's my drug of choice

yeah two sugar drinks so much is different for me since the quarantine i don't know who you are anymore yeah i'm way different now i'll be changed everyone will notice a change when they actually see me in person um so anyway i guess we should talk about dinosaur i guess we should um there yeah it's the ride that answers the question what if the indiana jones ride was unpleasant uh yes that is what it uh that's that is basically the mission statement for this ride it's interesting with dinosaur because like let me let me back up scott did you go on dinosaur this when we were there i forget do we go on together or no um no i didn't end up doing it. It was like I think I'm going to be facing the choice between a fast pass for Dinosaur and a nap.

And I think I chose a nap. Okay. That was our most exhausted day, if you'll recall. And that sounded pretty good to me. We got up. We went to Pandora early. And then we did Everest. I got you fast passes for the Kilimanjaro Safari.

Yes, you ran a little scheme there. Appreciated. Tiffins. Lindsay and I ate at Tiffins. So, yeah, dinosaur. Dinosaur I have a complicated relationship with because like a lot of, and I'll say kids, but I really mean like 14-year-olds. I got really scared on it when I went on it the first time. And I haven't completely gotten over it.

The trauma is still kind of there. There's other rides that obviously I was scared on the dark rides. I've kind of gotten over all that stuff. But there is something about Dinosaur that I'm still a little skittish about. And I can't tell if it's just deep-seated childhood trauma. And when I say childhood, I mean tween or teen trauma. Or it is, as you describe it, deeply unpleasant. I don't know. Well, Mike, isn't there a photo of you from a trip in the last five years where you look upset on this ride am i remembering that correctly

well i think i told the story on the show i had gone with a couple friends to orlando a year prior the prior year that we went um and i went on dinosaur then and i was like look it's a ride you're an adult man you have a theme park podcast you're a theme park journalist you need to keep your eye don't be scared of this you're an idiot if you think you're a theme park journalist you need to keep your eye don't be scared of this you're an idiot if you think you're scared of this it's not it's first of all it's a disney ride nothing's gonna happen you're like haunts now you're a different man you're a new man it's everything's gonna be fine so he went in dinosaur i kept my eyes open the whole time i was like you know what this is fine i this is a ride i can enjoy it like any other ride

and then when the picture opportunity happened, when the photo spot happened, I think it's when the Carnotaurus, what is it? Carnotaurus? Carnotaurus? Carnotaurus. Yes, I wrote that down phonetically.

I'm going to apologize because I will probably mispronounce some dinosaur names. Yeah. Oh, I will for sure as well. Tyrannosaur. That's how you say it right yeah nailed it uh and when the picture opportunity happened apparently and i didn't even realize it i turned away i turned away like i was scared so i thought i was being brave but the picture said otherwise well but it is a big scare at the end right it's the

it's the the picture happens when the carnotaurus is like right above you i believe it's right before that okay i believe it's right before that but still i humiliating myself again on this ride in my 30s i felt i had done a good very good job of being comfortable on it but there there the proof was that there's still something that's bothering me about the ride so i don't know you might just have like you might just have resting frightened face um because when we all went on the knots rapid ride together i was taking video of it and every frame that I saw, I guess you didn't look terrified. You just looked like actually you looked like you smelled something

horrible throughout every single frame where you were on camera. I know you weren't scared of the Rapids ride. I do know that. I was not scared of the Rapids ride. Yes. That communicated to me. That just might be how you look

on rides. I don't know. You're a little squinty. You're a little like, I don't know. Look, thank you for saying that because you're trying to get me off the hook here because I do grimace a lot. I think I have like resting grimace face. That's a good word. Resting grimace. Not McDonald land grimace, just a normal grimace, but

I have resting McDonald land grimace. I have resting like Idonald land grimace i am resting like i gotta get a shake thank jason thank you for making that joke so no one else had to you know i feel better if i make it yeah yeah get ahead of it yeah shows you have a sense of humor sure we all laugh together we can all we're having a lot of fun uh uh so yes i was gonna say thank you scott for saying that but if you look at this picture the picture i don't even have like a grimace on my face i my head is turned away i am physically like recoiling from whatever robot is like coming out at me do you have the can you remind us of what this photo looks like

i don't have, I have it. Let me, okay. I'll find it while we're talking here. I think I posted it. It'll take a minute. I apologize.

Posted it to the Twitter. If somebody else wants to give their feeling about when they first went on dinosaur countdown to extinction. Yeah. Well, maybe, maybe we should do the little, the,

the cliff notes of what it is for anybody who doesn't know offhand. We haven't been animal King. So it's, it's a, it's inney's animal kingdom in florida it is an opening day attraction um it uses the same a very similar ride vehicle and mechanism to the indiana jones adventure that being sort of the um the simulator on a moving track essentially like it's uh you're you're on wheels but it's simulating a little bit more movement. And I think it may even be the same literal track layout of the Indiana Jones Adventure.

It's the same. The term is enhanced motion vehicles, which Imagineering developed and was used for Indiana Jones in Anaheim, Indiana Jones at DisneySea, Dinosaur, and that's it. That's it? Weird. Well, it must

be expensive as hell, or else they would have done it more. It's such a revelatory, amazing type of ride vehicle, but it's got to be super cost-prohibitive. Yeah, I believe the estimated cost for this ride is is it between 40 and 60 million i had it uh somewhere in my notes yeah i think i saw that number that

was similar to that um yeah i mean it is very expensive um but it was put in this it was done here for cost reasons to save money yeah um by repeating the same track basic track layout and ride vehicle it seems like and i guess to use the same blueprints uh yeah has got to save him something the the apocryphal story is that as they were building animal kingdom they discovered that uh taking care of this many wild animals is expensive. So they needed to cut costs. And at some point it came down between Dino Land USA and Beastly Kingdom and Dino Land USA.

Those Imagineers more willing to cut costs and merge to attractions and kind of skimp and save a little. And a lot of the Beastly Kingdom Imagineers went on to shift over to Universal and put a lot of their mythical ideas into the Lost Continent. Yeah, there's a good, there's a YouTube video. I think it's Theme park history that i watched you watch that too jason i watched that yeah that video is great they they had a really uh thorough examination of the ride and the many changes of the ride he yes he posits that the the the dino land usa people were more willing to compromise than the beastly kingdom people there was going to be two rides there were going to be two dinosaur rides and they were willing to compromise than the beastly kingdom people there was going to be two rides there were going to be two dinosaur rides and they were willing to combine them into one ride and basically

just use the same indiana jones track layout and vehicle so they got their stuff built they won and jurassic park also was a big part of why dino land won because you know dinosaurs were all the rage uh jurassic park and also uh at the time uh disney had entered into a 10-year partnership with mcdonald's and when dino land usa first opened the mcdonald's logo and references were just fucking everywhere in this part of the park yeah so yeah even the in the line for this ride there are red yellow and white pipes that are supposedly meant to remind you of ketchup mustard and mayonnaise yes they have the chemical uh formula for each item on it whoa yeah oh even even further than i thought wow yeah yes i don't i don't know the logic behind that i don't know why in like a museum or like whatever i guess we're in a museum sort of in an

institute there would be a need for pipes that shot ketchup mustard and mayonnaise but there are i think museum workers are loving it you Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba, you know? They got to eat. They need a quick lunch. They need a quick, reliable lunch like anyone. Yeah. Jason, have you looked into installing these type of pipes? Like, would the city of Los Angeles be willing to put these three different colored pipes in?

I would love it, but contractors, it's such a pain in the ass finding a good contractor in Los Angeles. You don't want to skimp on a TaskRabbit sort of thing for ketchup, mustard, mayo pipes. You want a real pro. If any of the listeners have recommendations

for a plumber that can install ketchup, mustard, and mayonnaise pipes, let us know. Yeah. Because, you know, I would be – honestly, I would be interested in it, too. Because who doesn't like those three condiments? I know some people don't like mayonnaise, but I think that's crazy. Mayonnaise is delicious. The question is, do you have that installed just next to a water faucet?

Is it a kitchen thing? Or do thing or is it a shower thing? Do you want to get bathed in these items? Huh? Well, I mean, at least if you put it in the shower, that gives you the option to be bathed in ketchup, mustard, and mayonnaise. So it's always nice to have the option. Obviously, you can take a hot dog into the shower with you um but yeah you can't you can't have a bath in the sink if you do it there so i would i would advocate you put it by the shower at least it or in the shower yeah it running through pipes also implies that you have the option of hot and cold running mayonnaise. Oh, that's interesting. You can really warm it up if you want.

You can get blasted every morning with gallons of hot mayonnaise. Jason, the mayonnaise bill is through the roof this month. Oh, come on. You've got to cut down on it. It was cold this month. You're running through hot mayonnaise heaters. The repairman has been out to fix the hot mayonnaise heater three times this month. Well, he should have done a better job fixing it the first time.

I'm like a rolling pin wielding wife in this scenario yeah yeah yeah what are you doing jason the economy's hard right now and we're gonna hand all our money over to the dw k m m p jason real quick what is your mayonnaise brand um uh it's back east it's called hellman's and on the west coast it's called best foods it's one of those uh mississippi the mississippi dividing lines uh ones you mean you mean basic basic is what you're saying basic mayonnaise yeah basic mayonnaise yeah okay i don't i don't actually don't have any mayonnaise in the apartment but i do like mayonnaise yeah uh i have okay so i have sent the photo to you of me cowering next to a child by the way who is looking at the dinosaur i am not i am my head is

down to the left and i am like cringing it's it's one of the most humiliating photos of my adult life you're trying to like turtle into yourself you're trying to shrink down i don't i also don't have a memory of doing this i i have a memory of of being on the ride and everything going well and i enjoying the ride for the most part and then i see this photo and apparently that was all just a fantasy i made up in my head i must have like blacked out during the ride and had a dream that i comfortably went on dinosaur and enjoyed it but i really look like this most of the time you were smiling with a pipe in hand you were like a little golf clap good show carnitores yes ah like just like

chuckling ah look at that a pterodactyl ah very enjoyable perhaps the children on board might be frightened but i an adult educated man and perfectly fine the children yeah the children on board all seem a little surprised, but also delighted. Your friend Luke sitting next to you is overjoyed at this. Of course, everyone is. I would like to point your attention, too, to the family right behind you appears to have custom Mickey avatar shirts on. Oh, that's a mom and dad.

That's a mom and dad. Look like Navi, but also has some Mickey ears in there. Very fun. And then like there's a kid in the front row, a little kid in the front row, and his mom is pointing out like, look at that. And he's like looking at it. He doesn't seem scared. She's just trying to be like, look at

that. Isn't that cool? Meanwhile, there's only one asshole in the car who's looking away in terror. Yep. And if any of them bought this photo, they've made fun of you ever since. This is if, okay, if they all have like photo pass and have the photo, this is a photo they will make jokes about me for generations. This will get passed down in the family.

And it's be like, remember that wonderful trip we took to Walt Disney world. And remember that adult man who couldn't handle a robot dinosaur that was 20 feet away. Like this is someday the little boy in the front will be telling his little boy. I want you to be strong and brave and nothing like this pink hoodie guy from our 2018 trip to Disney World. Look at him.

He's in his mid-30s. We can tell how old he is. Just because he dresses like a child doesn't mean he's a child. He's an adult man. You know, I'll say I rode this ride. I think I would have ridden it opening summer in 1998 back when it was called countdown to extinction and i liked it i mean we didn't have indiana jones on the east coast so this is my first experience with this type of ride vehicle and i remember being delighted by

this ride especially because i think it's the most traditional kind of thrill ride attraction in the original animal kingdom uh opening day animal kingdom park i think i bought a little time rover and had a nice time but as the years have gone on it's kind of sticking out that they need to do some work on these dinosaurs and that this ride is very dark inside yeah yeah yeah visibility is kind of the issue more than anything and yeah i think they've let you know we're all everybody's mad about the uh the yeti and expedition everest but i think there's a lot of smaller animatronics in this attraction that are not working on the regular yeah i look i guess i i'm not the one to tell you i saw this stuff firsthand because obviously

who knows what my eyes were doing but from the videos i was watching today yes i think there's a couple of them that could uh be refurbished um but the darkness does hide you know some of the flaws unlike that opening scene from the jurassic park ride where like you know you would see the dinosaur skin just hanging off of its neck yeah and like the the sun damage was was too great to not notice they might be real fucked up if you put a light on them so maybe light isn't the answer yeah uh scott what when did you have you been on this ride yeah i did this uh i've done it a couple times yeah i must have done it around uh 99 it might have still been countdown to extinction i don't i don't recall i think my reaction was i thought this was going to be the the major

breathtaking like that's that's the killer ride in animal kingdom and that was kind of my reaction even then because Cause I, I was lucky enough to have been on the Indiana Jones adventure by then. So I was like, I was so excited about realizing, Oh, it's kind of a similar thing. And yeah, I felt kind of let down just cause it is more,

uh, it's what I said at the top. It's, it's just more unpleasant to me. It's, uh, it's, it's a lot of loud noises.

Is there not a score? They're not a music score running through it? I don't believe so. No, just. That's kind of weird to me. Just dinosaurs and like the meteor crashing sounds, which they did turn down. Like we're listening to the tamed down version since 2000. Yeah.

Oh, here. And, you know, in terms of filling in info that's probably the other thing to say so this is i mean the the basis of the attraction is that you're being beamed back in time in kind of a an all-terrain vehicle uh and you were taken back to a little too close before the comets all started landing uh that caused the extinction of the dinosaurs uh that's why the ride was originally called countdown to extinction but in a bizarre not the comets all started landing that caused the extinction of the dinosaurs. That's why the ride was originally called Countdown to Extinction, but in a bizarre, not bizarre, just kind of a confusing cross-promotional move. This ride sort of was reflective of the upcoming film Dinosaur.

It was released in 2000, and then they just went all the way full tilt with it and made it a complete tie-in to the movie dinosaur and it's been named dinosaur ever since i for one kind of prefer the title countdown to extinction i i find that a little cooler it's definitely a better title the development is so confusing because it seems like michael eisner said all right imagineering and animation work together to make these dinosaurs coherent with both your projects so there is an iguanodon and there is a carna carna taurus which was recently discovered at the time they they worked that real life discovery in

uh to the movie and the ride but they called it something different for two years, and then when the movie actually came out, yeah, like you said, they changed it to Dinosaur. So still trying to figure out the cross-inner company synergy there. Kind of odd. The synergy, I think, was getting a little out of hand because elsewhere in Animal Kingdom, you had It's tough to be a bug

which slightly predated a bug's life and in both cases they don't totally reflect the movie like there's so many bugs and it's tough to be a bug who are not in a bug's life and this is really strange where it's a trip back into the world of the dinosaurs, which the movie dinosaur takes place entirely in the dinosaur world. And there certainly is no mischievous doctor trying to have you bring a dinosaur back for his personal gain. There's no time travel element in dinosaur. There's no humans in it. So,

and, and not all of the dinosaurs, in fact, they aren't at all like the dinosaurs for the most part in Dinosaur because mainly the dinosaurs in Dinosaur talks. And there's some real logic flaws once they switched it to Dinosaur. So you're going back as a meteor shower is happening and you spoiler alert, you do happen to rescue the Iguanodon in the ride. But the logic then follows, if this takes place after the movie Dinosaur,

everyone else in that movie has died in the meteor shower except the protagonist, who we all know is Aladar. Aladar. Of course it's Aladar. Of course it's Aladar. Or the other option is that in the movie Dinosaur, there is a brief meteor shower early in the movie, and that's when they have to flee the island

that you first meet a lot of the characters on. So then if you're rescuing Aladar at that point, then the events of the movie don't occur hmm I didn't think about that oh weird so that might so either this is the extinction of the dinosaurs and you have removed this character saving him

which he would have died but his entire family and everyone he knows and loves is dead in the process or this is what we're seeing is the uh the the bombing of lemur island yep you got it um okay i think i'm caught up then bombing is not the right word but i mean sort of bombing bombs from the from nature nature bombs bombs from heaven that's what I call asteroids, yes.

Bombs from heaven, Jason is called. They were sent by God, yes. The lemurs had sinned, and only God bombs could make it right. This seems like I was, this sort of reminded me of the story about Michael Eis eisner wanting to uh have the daryl hannah splash have something to do movie splash have something to do with splash mountain like that was sort of he's always tried to do sort of like a synergistic thing with rides and here he kind of got his wish and he did not with splash and splash mountain with Splash and Splash Mountain. Because people like, maybe in the 80s,

there were people there like Tony Baxter who predated him and they weren't scared of him and they would tell him an idea was stupid. But by this point, maybe it's all people who've only lived in Eisner world. So they feel like they can't say no to him.

Yeah. Maybe he, yes, he, maybe it was like, it was obviously, it felt like a different time from what we've heard from, you know, Imagineering interviews and stuff. People like the eighties felt like in the early nineties felt like very collaborative and there was a whole, everyone, it was a team of rivals, but everybody was getting things done. And then by the end of Eisner's tenure, it just seemed like everyone had had the wind uh knocked out of them the bubble had been deflated and maybe

it was just like all right well we'll figure out how to make this ride tie in with aladar the dinosaur from the movie dinosaurs it's not a random iguanodonon anymore. It's Aladar. It's Aladar. It's very clearly Aladar. I guess you have to rescue Aladar now. But, like, you're bringing him into the future for, like, tests? It's not even, like, he's... I guess he's being rescued, but, like, at what cost? Why does he want to live here in this time? The mad scientist who is trying to get a hold of

this iguanodon is putting countless people's lives at risk for scientific notoriety for for the sake of getting a hold of aladar yes i wish he said why is he i wish he said aladar. I wish he just said the name. Yeah, that would clear it up. But I think they only filmed the actor before the movie, before they even made this decision. So, yeah, it's a tie-in to a movie, but no characters are named. Right. You see a little CGI clip of Aladar in the pre-show. But, yeah, he doesn't see Dr. Seeker does not say Aladar. the pre-show but yeah he doesn't see dr seeker does not say aladar so it's very

confusing in in the pre-show he uh so so this yeah this dr dr seeker lets you know that uh he wants you to go back in time and bring back this particular iguanodon it's this one here i'll show you and he brings up like security cam footage but the security cam footage is clearly finished shots from the movie dinosaur so it's you you're thinking you're gonna go get like a you know anatomically correct dinosaur but instead you're showing a dinosaur who's like doe-eyed who's like conveying emotion which is very jarring especially then when you go to a dinosaur who's like doe-eyed who's like conveying emotion which is very jarring especially then when you go to the dinosaur world and it's just a lot of like it's just a lot of like roaring you know no brain cells dinosaurs who can't show you that they're like pensive right they can't like they can't win you over with their cuteness like Aladar can.

A dinosaur who I would assume most younger people would know now from... It might be too old even for people to know it as a meme, but there's a grainy screen grab of Aladar looking like he's going, that I see every now and then. It's like a reaction photo oh like a jim like a yeah like a jif or even just a jay but let me see if i can find i'll see if i can find it and send it to you guys saying uh like like his mouth is just kind of open and he looks a little yeah his his mouth is just kind of gaping he looks a little like a gape yeah his mouth is just kind of gape he just looks a little slack jawed

hmm I'm looking at a gif here of a baby I don't know if it's baby Aladar or just a different baby dinosaur sneezing and I don't even want to send it to you

guys because I think you're gonna I think you'll love it in some perverse baby Grinch way. That's how awful I find it, that I feel like it's guaranteed. Oh, yeah. Give me that. My mouth is watering for this. Just look for Dinosaur Aladar Jif. Dinosaur Aladar Jif. Aladar Jif.

Don't look at the one of Plyo. It's not Plyo. I think it's Baby Aladar.if. Aladar Jif. Don't look at the one of Plyo. It's not Plyo. I think it's Baby Aladar. Oh, okay. Oh, I see this. Oh, yeah. Oh, he sneezed. Oh, yeah.

I love this. No, you don't. Yes, I do. You're being contrarian. I'm not being contrarian. No one would like this. Why would you like this? I don't know when this episode is coming out versus Patreons, but there's a couple characters I've said I hated recently,

and I think that makes it clear that I am not biased. I like Baby. Yeah, but if I bring it up and say I don't like it, then you immediately say you like it. Well, next, okay, look, the next time this type of thing happens, you have to go in neutral so I can prove that I'm being unbiased here, that I do like baby Aladar sneezing. Let's the audience will also decide.

Let's post this. The Grint baby Grint is very decisive, divisive baby Aladar, I think going to be less divisive. I don't know why I can't talk right now. No, this isn't good. Mike,

can you send me, he might be worse. Can you send me Aladar sneezing, please? I will send you Avatar. Baby Avatar. You know, it's funny you say that because obviously we all know the voice of Aladar is one of our favorite actors. Let's all say it together. D.B. Sweeney.

Yes. D.B. Sweeney. And D.B. Sweeney is Aladar, and he's also Avatar Aang in The Legend of Korra, the sequel to Avatar The Last Airbender, which is not James Cameron's Avatar, which has Dr. Augustine, who is not Dr. Ogden. Right. Keep that straight, everyone. So, but D.B. Sweeney is Aladar and Avatar Aang. D.B. Sweeney is Al... What is... He's not Avatar Aang. He's Aladar and Avatar Aang. It's just Aang.

It's just Aang. Avatar is the name of the show. No, no, no. It's just Aang. It's just Aang. Avatar is the name of the show. No, no, no. I'm looking at it. I clicked on a Wikipedia where he's still, I think it's acceptable to call him Avatar Aang. Wow. I think.

Okay. I mean, I don't know. Maybe we're both right. I've watched some of the first, I haven't watched any of the sequel, the Legend of Korra where they're older. But yeah, I remember a little of the first, I haven't watched any of the sequel, the Legend of Korra where they're older. But yeah, I remember a little of the show. Jason, I don't care.

On the Wikipedia, it goes back and forth. Yeah. Sometimes he is Avatar Aang's. They're Avatar Aang and sometimes he's just Aang. I've sent you the gif, Jason. I love it. I love it. Yes, of course.

No, you don't. This is not cute. No, it's not. He is cute. Why? He's a little cutie. He's a little cutie. Jason's right. This is horrifying late 90s CGI. If you saw this on your own, you would think

this was bad. Everyone's taking a stance. You're all against me. That's what's happening. That has nothing to do with it. I think the audience is going to overwhelmingly like Baby Aladar. a stance. You're all against me. That's what's happening. That has nothing to do with it. It has nothing to do with it. I think the audience is going to overwhelmingly like Baby Aladar. Jesus.

I bet over 75% will vote yes on Baby Aladar. I can't say that I don't like anything because everyone will get in lockstep. I didn't like Fuzzbucket. Oh, well, all right.

That's true. But I think if I came out first and said I didn't like Fuzzbucket, where would we be then? I think I would have completely agreed. Fuzzbucket is so unpleasant. He's such a little turd. I do not like him. Go to our Patreon if you want to listen to us talk about the,

I guess, was it Disney Channel movie? No. Or was it ABC? It was on ABC, yeah. Okay. It's about an unpleasant little character who kind of grifts a little boy. That's the best way I can describe it. And I don't remember the lines anymore because I've tried to force them out of my brain.

But it's like, you know, he says things like, hey, fun boy. Kissy, kissed, right? Doesn't he demand kisses at one point? Give me kissy ride, fun boy. Kiss, what's, he says something like, what's going on, party boy?

Oh, it's even worse. And then he's like, then the little boy's like because fuzz bucket like is just using the little boy and he's like don't you like me and he's like oh yeah i do i swear yeah yeah sure i do that's right and he's so like he has oh he's not cute he's unpleasant is all of his friends doesn't he have a friend named stinky or something yeah he sure does jason i think jason is the one on record that said he like jason likes stinky i like stinky yeah yeah but i i don't even like stinky i won't go on record as saying i enjoy stinky from fuzz bucket i think i'm looking at a different uh a different GIF now that is baby Aladar either peeing or pooping.

Oh, my God. Send that over here. Send that our way. Yeah. I'm going to send this of him sneezing just to make sure. Because are we talking about the same GIF of baby Aladar? No, no, no. This one is him giggling or something.

I'm sending it over right now to you, and I'm going to see if we're talking about the same thing. Because, again, Jason and I are looking at this, and we say this is cute. I'm going to send it to you with the email subject line, piss. Okay. I will be very honest if I like Baby Aladar going to the bathroom. I'll be very honest.

There's a lot of uh fun dinosaur content oh yeah this came up even bigger this time mike i can see this is a sneeze this is different i'm sending you what i think is pooping or peeing all right this is and i don't okay i don't like him well while you guys okay hold on while you're sorting this out, let's see. I think Scott is right. This baby Aladar is pissing or shitting right now. I'm looking at him. Uh-oh.

I think this is cute, honestly. This is also cute. This might be cuter. Why is it? Tell me why. It is not. Because it's making a funny little face it's a little baby dinosaur little guy he's just a little guy he's a little guy who's way too shiny and doesn't match

his own background and a dinosaur would not be this expressive and yet he's also a dead-eyed zemeckis type creature nothing about this is good this looks better than adult Aladar in the movie I might agree with that yes should we should I like text Lindsay she's downstairs should I text her and say do you think this is cute yeah yeah sure

yes send her both send her both I don't think I'm trolling here I really don't I think this is cute this might just convey different taste or something maybe I'll do the same to Aaron sorry listeners that this has just become us sending

files around I think they're I think they're gripped by this drama of who likes the baby Aladar shitting or sneezing. I have some, I wanted to get your guys's feedback. So did you guys come across, you know, we talked about the McDonald's sponsorship.

Did you come across the posters of hand drawn dinosaurs that say like food, fangs and fun? And did someone say Styracosaurus? And have you had a crocodilian today and it's one dinosaur eating another dinosaur no i've seen none of this i saw yes i have that right here and that is really terrifying it is a pretty detailed drawing of a dinosaur uh eating a crocodile head first yeah here i'll send this to Scott. I have this. Yeah, I am very shocked

that this would even be in a Disney park. I mean, it feels like something that would be like leftover from like the 60s or something where you're like, well, it's been grandfathered in because of how terrifying it is. But yeah, yeah.

It's a cool drawing, by the way. Food, fangsangs and fun the the dinosaur mcdonald's tie together in general is very bizarre i don't know why these properties are are matched they are not is the answer that just mcdonald's was looking to give them money and they gave them dinosaur yeah i think they had to fit it in where they could um because like it was you could get like mcdonald's food at the restaurant asaurus yeah which is still there it just does not serve mcdonald's food um i when we when lindsey and i were there a couple years ago there was a a very nice quirky older fellow who had a dinosaur puppet who wouldn't leave people alone with it who worked there who did work there you're sure he worked

there uh he at least had an outfit that resembled a disney employee's outfit i assume i think he took a tray or two too although none of that really confirms that he worked there yeah exactly guys the weird speckles on these posters make it seem like the dinosaurs are surrounded by locusts hmm or germs honestly that's what's in my head at this point

yes I mean that should have been the warning that God was going to unleash upon them his almighty wrath. You know, they were warned. I do know. I think we might all be screwed in this current scenario

unless a doctor in some other species right before our extinction wants one of us in particular. Like, if some other species doctor seeker in a thousand years wants jason and then some truck shows up and grabs him before the virus gets us all that's the only hope any of us have well i have a question will future dr seeker be uh explaining his plan in a glorious four by three aspect ratio because for this is no this ride pre-show is notable for still having uh uh standard def footage never a film cut of this never a film cut uh so it's time travel in that regard you're

first you time travel to 1998 then you travel to the Cretaceous. By the way, to follow up on earlier and might keep me updated, but I texted Erin, she walked in the room and said a very definitive no. So we might just be getting different. This is the different tastes of the unified gardeners. Erin, who had no idea what we were talking about. And I guess everyone else, I guess it's us against the world hey uh i'm waiting for lindsey to respond she is downstairs playing animal crossing which is become her addiction in quarantine times yeah you tweeted about this oh Oh, no. It is. The hours are staggering.

I'll be honest. Like, I feel like I'm like my parents from like when I was like, you really have to. You're going to keep playing, huh? Okay. Huh. It's made Twitter extremely confounding to me not playing Animal Crossing. I don't know what 85% of it is anymore. All right.

Okay. Lindsay has weighed in. I said the two GIFs. I said, do you think Baby Aladar is cute? And she wrote, yes! Exclamation point. Boy, wow. Well, hey, we find who we're meant to be with, I guess.

Guys, I'm going to break the tie. I texted them to my girlfriend, and she also says very cute. Very cute? Lindsay added a very cute to the text right before Jason said that, and she can't hear Jason. What are you talking about? Yes. Very cute, yes.

I think over 75% of the listeners will agree. I don't understand. Why is that very cute? He has that the mouth it's a horrifying mouth. It is like weird CGI rubber. This is not good. I don't know. Again,

I don't think we're trolling here. I don't think there's any. Well, I mean, yes, this, this test, the wife and girlfriend test is a, is a good litmus, but I don't understand. I don't understand where's any. Well, I mean, yes, this this test, the wife and girlfriend test is a is a good litmus.

But I don't understand. I don't understand where anyone's coming from. Lindsay is also now texted who the F is Aladar. A very good follow up question. Hey, maybe we should explain a little bit and we should talk about the 2000 film. Don't say Aladar, the 2000 film Dinosaur. This is a movie that everyone can revisit now if they have Disney Plus, and I'm sure that very few people have. I've never been able to stand this entire film.

And it is a movie that perhaps notably combined real backgrounds, real nature backgrounds with CGI dinosaur characters, which I'm sure made it the dullest film ever to shoot in history. That sounds so boring. They just had to go film plates for a long time um and it's all very disappointing because the weird history of this movie where this was in its original development was supposed to be a vehicle for paul verhoeven with that which is so great i i lost my mind when i saw that fact i could just imagine paul vert 90, 90s Paul Verhoeven making a CGI brutalist dinosaur film. That would have been awesome.

Yes. This is what he has explained in every interview that it was going to be just really gory and fucked up. And just about like the, the, the pointlessness of, uh, of life.

I get not the pointlessness of, but like, uh uh you know the why flail against a death that is coming no matter what it's it's gonna be really severe and um it just like end with extinction and that's that's it that's the end of them which is kind of the end of the ride i guess that's that stayed unified yeah i know, this ride kind of like is an interesting little special feature for the movie Dinosaur because regardless of the events of the movie, it reminds you, yes, that death comes for all of us. I guess that's kind of a little special feature on all Disney movies. Eventually, these characters will die.

Yeah, sure. That's a great thing to keep in mind. Yeah. But only Dinosaur had the guts to say it. Only the Dinosaur had the guts to say it. By the way, guys, I pulled it up on Disney Plus on the app. And under extras, look what I just sent you. Look what the only extra is.

There's a little clip. There's a little clip. It's Baby Aladar. It's Baby Aladar. No, no, no. It's our friend. What's tired tired baby grinch wired baby aladar what's that what's that i smell wafting through the air why i think i smell a little content coming our way uh no please no everyone's everyone spend this time connecting with your family zoom with your family and don't send us shit just just when you think there's there's enough stuff in the like lore of

podcast the ride to annoy scott with we stumble upon baby aladar how have i amassed a fan base that loves only things that i find extremely abhorrent and unpleasant. I mean, do I want, like, should there be a Photoshop of Randy Gerber holding Baby Aladar? You know the answer. Yes. Wow. That's so fascinating.

Now I hear a rumbling in the distance, a voice, a cacophony of voices all at once. Yelling, plus us up. Plus us up. No. No, no, no. I'm not watching. Hell no. Of course.

No dinosaur. This is bad enough as it is. Didn't we learn anything from our last plus us up? Patreon exclusive dinosaur watch alone. Please no. Al Adar. Please, no. Aladar! Aladar!

I have hated the idea of this film. I can't even stand watching short clips. This is such an unpleasant movie. Let me look up Aladar. I'm going to look up Aladar plush. When I was 15, I'd see trailers for this on TV with him saying, stand together. I'm like, what is this move? I don't ever want to see what this is.

Why would anyone like that? This ugly gray dinosaur yelling, stand together. I could see any other movie. What's that bad, like, you know, Jack Black, Steve Zahn movie from around that time much further see that narrows it down uh that um man early animal kingdom had tie-ins for bugs life tarzan and dinosaur dinosaur what a time jesus oh a terrible time i'm looking i i cannot find any baby aladar merch i think it's all regular aladar adult aladar who i don't find near i i'm not as attached to him now like i am to his baby self i see only baby well yeah it was all downhill from then i guess yuck um i uh some other things about the uh the

movie dinosaur uh not the not the boring movie that i assume that if they like at every turn they denied things that could have made it cooler i should say specifically that not only was it going to be verhoeven it was going to be be a collaboration between Paul Verhoeven and Phil Tippett, who did the Ed 209 sequence in Robocop. So like that crazy gory sequence as an entire dinosaur film. So cool. And it didn't happen. Disney didn't like any of that.

And then it sat on a shelf for a long time. The only thing that stayed consistent is that there's a character named suri like in the in the proven version there was going to be a suri that was ultimately played by hayden panettiere um so there is oh that's oh and that's a lemur but also there were going to be real lemurs in the movie because there were lemurs in the time of dinosaurs and there's lemurs now so they were going to round up real lemurs in the movie because there were lemurs in the time of dinosaurs and there's lemurs now so they were going to round up real lemurs to interact with puppets whoa cool yeah that sounds really cool and then but obviously none of that happened and instead they made this boring thing with this not good baby and not only that they said there there was a full song written and performed by Kate Bush called Out of the Storm.

Wow. And preview audiences didn't like it. And the producers asked Bush to do rewrites and she refused. So there was they they also denied Kate Bush, although I will say that then she reworked the song. And it is a song called lyra in the movie the golden compass and i checked it out and i'm not so much a fan of the song lyra from the golden compass but uh nonetheless um it feels like a kate bush contribution would have made this movie a little more interesting uh i agree with that i just started listening to some of the classic

kate bush albums i was i never really got i just never came across my desk but i have been listening to hounds of love and it is good so yeah i'm sort of uh i'm kind of a late comer with her a little bit yeah a little bit i know uh it's almost um too heavy to listen to like it's all like delve in a little and then i'm like i can't can't handle this more there's so way Too many feelings. Much like staring at a photo of baby Aladar. I just have a limit. Now hold on, what if I were to tell you

that the Iguanodon, the one we are to assume is Aladar in the ride, the main time you see him in the ride, he is holding up a tree to help you escape and he's also screaming pretty cool pretty cool and it is but in dv sweeney's voice or just like a roar just a just a a painful uh scream like a high pitch as if he's watching everything he knows uh burn up from god bombs

what a strange ride watch characters suffer yeah wallace langham has a ticket for you to see your friends go through hell it's like if midway mania ended with the scene from toy story 3 where they're all in the incinerator like and then and then only one of the toys made it out only ham makes it out yeah only ham survives the incinerator at the end of midway mania bad news troops your poor slingshotting has doomed all the characters to die oh man um yeah this is the most bizarre honestly perverse perverse ride you know we we talked about um when the ride the first two years of the ride when it was countdown to extinction um were a little different when they switched it over to dinosaur in 2000 they did make some changes uh one they dropped the height the height requirement got a little shorter the uh vehicles

got a little less jerky and the sounds a little less sinister uh it was more so oh my god it was jerkier and louder and you it was i guess they were playing the sound of like stomping as if like the dinosaur was right behind you um and the ending was a big change like the ending it looked like you were about to be hit by an asteroid and then you threw a quote laser net over uh the iguanodon and that's how he gets back now talking about a talking about? A laser net. A laser net. Specifically a laser net. It was a laser net. And now there's a big carna...

I can't remember how to say this. Carnotaurus. A big carnotaurus pops out at the end and you just kind of like happen to get the Iguanuana dawn in your field tell yeah they tell you you got it you got it and of course unlike indiana jones where you actually see an indiana jones animatronic at the end you do not see one last iguana dawn animatronic you see video footage of a cgi iguanaon wandering around like facility hallways

empty hallways on standard he's stuck in a he's stuck in a laboratory for once he was screaming because his friends are dying and now he's stuck now he's in a time that he doesn't understand he doesn't know

what a wall is much less a computer similar to like biff running around the institute of future technology on the back to the future ride except it's a dinosaur much scarier for him he's he's like young he's like what he's like 17 tops right he's still pretty young yes he yes very young uh the theme park history video said that there was going to be maybe a pepper's ghost effect to actually make it look like the dinosaur was like with you or coming back through time which would have given a little bit more of a

suggestion of what happened as opposed to just like oh yeah and we uh got the dinosaur. It worked. Now he gets to live in a laboratory. Yeah. Yes. Or he escaped and like it was a lost world scenario where he like ravages a town. That's probably what's coming. Yeah. He's going to like he's going to run through everything in Dinoland USA. I would love Dr.

Marsh and Dr. Seeker to chase the iguanodon in a cadillac in a top-down yeah sure um yes they also swapped out uh the the statue in the fountain out front used to be a styracosaurus and then when they switched it to dinosaur they put an iguanodon that in theory is Aladar in the fountain. And they put a bunch of landscaping around it because some blogs, some blogs were saying that the original fountain with no barriers, people would just climb into the fountain to stand next to the dinosaur or like splash around.

So, yes, I said I saw that. Animal Kingdom, famously a very hot park uh very extra warm uh the day we were there was the hottest day we were we were there uh used to be a lot less inside attractions there but even still with with the foliage uh grown in after 20 plus years still a very warm park yes it's just a giant sauna it's the world's biggest sauna yeah that's why i napped instead of going to see aladar uh yeah i mean it is a cool this is one of the places you know you can get out of the sun because it's all indoors so that's a good thing about it. Ride a more traditional thrill ride. Did you guys?

You can get some AC and hear characters scream, bombs dropping, lightning strikes, and a very screechy radio with the voice of Wallace Langham. Yeah. What could you not love about that and and the robot voice identifying dinosaurs i think if i was a dinosaur a big dinosaur kid and hearing all the voice i i think i would be very excited even though dinosaur what we know about dinosaurs seems to change every year and this ride has probably already uh been you know retroactively incorrect in many ways yeah like certain dinosaurs they'll be like oh yeah you know that dinosaur you've known about since you were a kid that dinosaur never existed that was that was fake somebody thought that's what one was but it didn't

exist you know like oh okay yeah um and then like jurassic park did the whole like they're birds and then like some people are like they're not really birds yeah uh so yeah i you know hopefully hopefully in a few century we'll figure out what dinosaurs were i mean we know for a fact it's the past it's a blast or it's fast it's a blast and it's in the past that's the motto of this ride of course it's a blast or it's fast. It's a blast and it's in the past. That's the motto of this ride. Of course. It's cool and good. And we all know it. Should we talk about the,

about the video before we talked about the four by three nature, but yeah, you meet, you have both initially Felicia Rashad, who's the director of the dino institute which is a real highfalutin name the dino institute dr marsh um we just did a fake doctor final four on twitch and um i didn't want to have oh too much dinosaur in it so dr see in, but Dr. Marsh was not in. I feel like we don't know as much about her. Um, but she is, you know, more, um,

professional and just giving you kind of the museum tour you think you're going to get. And then Dr. Seeker announces that he is not your daddy's doctor. Uh, cause he comes on screen with a puppet and makes a weird voice. And so you, you immediately are shown that he is a little more oddball and casual. Dr.

Marsh kind of dismissive of the old museum, kind of like this looks like shit now that we got the time. And then, and then, then so you got Dr. Seeker who's, you know i i did i always liked this video i that this this video is a successful component to me um and i like wallace langham uh he's good he's good in larry sanders uh very good part of that show veronica's closet

um i don't know how he is on that i've never seen veronica's closet i have not seen it either no let's keep it that way let's not start thinking that's the second gate depends how long this whole thing quarantine lasts oh god speed it up speed it up um but yeah it's all very this is a very back to the Future ride vibe here. Maybe too much so. Maybe it kind of paved the way too much. Yes. That might be, when I'm analyzing about it, like, why maybe it doesn't stick out to me as one of my favorites. I feel like it does kind of feel like not as good as the Back to the Future.

It's like very similar setup. It's an institute. This obviously is a dinosaur specific time traveling institute. But it all feels less fun to me. Let's not forget the first

pre-show in the queue where the exhibits kind of get highlighted. Bill Nye is the narrator in that section. Very 90s choice. Bill nye from universe of energy there's so much bill and then he was in other stuff in interventions there was so much disney just owned bill nye they shoved them everywhere i believe they touch the television division partially funded bill nye the science guy and i think he's still caught up in legal like trying to untangle the legal

of that to then put those because those are on Amazon or Netflix the Bill Nye the Science Guy show where they were? No, it was a new show Oh that new show. I'm not sure Rough

Yeah. I haven't seen it. I mainly know him from like you know i went through a couple months there's a new like viral thing where he says like and i should know i'm bill fucking nye bitch or something like that yeah that's he'll do a video where he swears it's got all the novelty of like bob Saget swearing. His stand-up's really dirty. I don't know if you know that. Look, you know what?

I just recently did that come across my desk that Bob Saget says words that I wouldn't expect him to. Yes, and I was... Yeah, it's crazy. He's all about farts and stuff. I haven't gotten over it. I feel like Bill Nye shows up every now and then too if like some Republican senator named like Turd Trudgley says, like, if the Earth's getting hotter, God wants that way. And Bill Nye shows up to tut tut them.

Yes, I think I said this on the Universe of Energy episode a few years ago where it's like Bill Nye smacks down Tucker Carlson on Fox News. And then you watch it. He's like, no, the earth is getting hotter. And then it's like, that was the clip. Oh, snap. And then you're like, well, did he really smack him down? I don't even, he wasn't even, didn't even give any good evidence. According to the internet, there's no interaction on TV that isn't a smackdown or an evisceration. Yeah.

No, Bill Nye is smacking down left and right, according to the internet. I don't know what he said about the virus pre it coming out. So I can't... I don't know. I'll look into that. Well, he is anti-vaccine. That's the one weird thing. Is that... No. That's just true. No. Not all. know i'll look into that well he is anti-vaccine that's the one weird thing is that no no no

that would be so funny if bill nye swears by all science but he's like i don't know about these vaccines though you know yeah he's a big flat earther but besides that everybody just got that one wrong what can i say i'm bill my bitch i came across uh i was wondering did you guys come across the article uh do you remember disney magazine disney's official magazine that covered disney of course so you know yes um did you guys come across the scans of the article where an editor from that was like a cast member at dinosaur for the day on the attraction like worked all the different roles on it uh she got a tour before the park opened um and says uh this guy chuck chuck is the the cast member showing her like shadowing her

she's shadowing and he's showing around uh the writer of this article says the dinosaurs are especially eerie quote they run all night it's easier on them due to the hydraulic system explains chuck they're set on night mode and don't go through the full range of motion. So they nod and sway gently back and forth. They're whirring mechanisms audible in the pre-opening silence. Yeah. Oh, creepy. They never stop.

I per this, like, like 20 plus year old article, the dinosaurs just keep moving all night. Whoa. Is that, could that be common with animatronics? At least this generation. I don't know if modern animatronics where the hydraulics are a little different

or it's electric motors instead of hydraulics, but just imagining all these weird little dinosaurs just kind of swaying all night long is is a horrifying image well obviously i don't like the sound of that that scares me yeah makes me makes me turn away and wince i'm gonna have a nightmare where i wake up locked in the never-ending perennially moving over dinosaur ride overnight and i'm horrified by that and then i look down and there's baby avatar or baby aladar and i have it i don't like baby avatars either um uh and i uh and and i have to raise him he's my responsibility now well oh that's

yes that would i think you would like that i think that's yes that would i think you would like that i think that i think you yeah i think um are you guys at all comforted by the this attraction being in the brotherhood of the dirty yellow strap well most attractions are i guess so yeah it's either lap bars or the dirty yellow strap. Yeah. A lot of dirty yellow straps. Yeah. Yeah.

I think hearing that with the robots, what would be the scariest Disney ride to have to spend the night in? Like, would it be this one? It might be this one. Maybe. Because it's loud and unpleasant. And like Indiana Jones, I guess there's a lot of stuff going on too and that would be scary but like what i would maybe sleep in the room of skulls on indiana jones and i feel like that would be okay if you had to stay in the are you proposing that we have we can go anywhere in the rides you just have to stay somewhere in the ride i think so yeah well but what would be what would be the scariest yeah

like there would be almost like no good spot and like maybe don't count pre-shows because there's not a lot of chaos in the pre-show but like on the actual ride itself from the ride vehicle on i was gonna say if you had to stay in uh the pleasure Island area in Pinocchio's daring journey and the, the like the, the carnival games were going to like ding, the bell game was going all night. That'd be pretty horrible,

but I could just keep moving into Geppetto's room, which has no robots and just a bunch of clocks. So that you'd be fine over there. But then you have to hear like an old man sobbing all night as he sleeps. clocks. So you'd be fine over there. But then you have to hear an old man sobbing all night as he sleeps. Yeah. Are you suggesting set lighting or work lighting? Like work fluorescence or colored story lighting?

What do you mean? Like how much of the ride is running? Oh, I would say with the information about Dinos about dinosaur let's say they're all like that it's like they're in b mode all the animatronics are kind of moving it's dark in there because they don't the lights aren't on unless they're like fixing something so it's mostly show lighting the animatronics may be not moving as crazy as they usually do but they're moving a little bit and the sounds are all still running okay yeah i mean the sounds are really unnerving there's so much darkness in this ride although that disney magazine article

the editor said that like even the dark sections are set dressed like have plants in them which then begs the question why isn't there a little more lighting even just on some plants like if they're set dressed why aren't they lit yeah i assume it's because they don't want to like show i mean it's such a big building but it's like it's kept dark so it kind of makes you feel like maybe there's more out there but it does just kind of feel like you're in a tiny space honestly it doesn't i'm i'm kind of i'm kind of if you'll forgive me i'm kind of stuck on the previous on mike's on your scenario yeah go um and i it's you know they don't it's not there anymore but i think i thought of a bad one which is uh if if you had to be in the um the

wizard of oz in the great movie right oh yeah oh like in the in the like the where the munchkins are all yeah if it were if it were that bright and you couldn't leave for like oh that's eight hours yeah that's yeah and then like the munchkins kept popping up in the manholes and stuff and follow the yellow brick road was playing over and over again that witch or a pretty pretty realistic animatronic yeah that yeah anywhere in great movie ride might be might be a little rough obviously right under these are bad on alien oh jesus like a bed underneath the xenomorph you'd have to sleep like a cot dear lord yeah i don't think i don't know that there's a good spot in Gray Movie Ride.

Are there any beds in that movie ride? Jason? Well, in the gangster scene, there's clearly some flophouse facades. Yeah, but those are facades. Not even a full flophouse. I bet Bugsy would tell you he could make you sleep with the fishes. Yeah, and you don't want to do that. All right. What about, like, could you think you could, like,

sleep on the plane in the Casablanca scene? Is there a plane? It's kind of loud, though, if the motors are going on. That's true. Maybe not scary. Maybe that one would just be unpleasant. Too melancholy for me. Yeah. Huh. Footlight parade jason would you sleep in probably footlight parade is the most you know that's probably the chillest

yeah yeah huh i'm trying to think maybe you could go in like a saloon part of the old west where the chaos isn't happening yet. Mm-hmm. Maybe the exit, the little exit area of the Tower of Terror in Florida with like the ventriloquist dummy. No. Like, because that's kind of a cozy spot. I bet you could like find a spot in there. Tower of Terror lobby, the Hollywood Tower Hotel lobby. That's nice. Yeah, but no lobbies. I said no prellywood tower hotel lobby that's that's nice yeah but no lobbies i said no pre-shows i eat but that's a literal lobby that's a literal hotel

lobby oh you so you yeah okay hmm maybe the hallway the hallway of tower of terror before it becomes a starfield i guess then ghosts are just constantly appearing the fourth dimension room you mean yeah oh you mean like one of the when it opens the door and you see the family down the hall yeah but there's go that's a ghost there's a big eye in the fourth dimension yeah i mean that might that's scary so that's i guess i i forget what we're actually trying to solve here it's the scariest one so i guess that is a contender but if we're trying to pick a nice one too i don't know none of them are ideal nothing is ideal i'm trying yeah so what is the what would be the ideal ride to spend the night in what would be the most pleasant is it maybe

you know what it's probably sleeping under the stars in Radiator Springs Racer, the inside area, like by the gas station, just sort of sleeping on the ground there. That's nice. It sounds kind of nice. You know, vibe-wise, maybe Peter Pan's

flight wouldn't be too bad, but I don't know. I don't want to be on record saying that I would like to spend the night in Peter Pan's flight wouldn't be too bad, but I don't know. I don't want to be on record saying that I would like to spend the night in Peter Pan's flight. I think that's an arrestable offense. Yeah, that's probably... I mean, yeah, because you'd be in Wendy's room. Yeah, you'd be in the

Dowling Children's Nursery. Oh, God. I'm like Robert Downey Jr. in 96. Some guy here. The guy just fell asleep in this kid's bedroom i guess you could you could you know spend it on the ship on captain hook's ship yeah they're just on the ground in alice somewhere you okay yeah that's not bad the birthday scene would be unpleasant because there's such a such a loud party keep it down yeah that's um like i guess the most pleasant yo you know what you know what

the answer is it's the navi river journey yeah no what no well not in the not not in the room with the i don't like this as much as you guys the i hate not not in the room with the i don't like this as much as you guys be i hate not not in the room with the shaman hell no i'm not spending the night with the shaman i don't know that's kind of a soothing song i think within earshot would be nice not right not like sleeping at the shaman's feet or anything not her feet i think i'd be a little scared of all these like sparkly snakes slithering around or whatever the hell is happening in there yeah it would have to be in the right spot because obviously there's different beasts um flying around and running around but like by the by the big uh the frogs

when the frogs are jumping on the leaves right there I feel like you know you look up and you just you enjoy the uh pandoran frogs hopping from leaf to leaf, and you have a nice night's sleep, and you can hear in the distance that beautiful song sung by one of our favorite characters in fiction. Oh, what about in E.T., The Green Planet, when they're having a little party and they're sliding up and down, and there's a little water?

I love that, but that's going to be, how are you going to sleep? Yeah, I'll just be up all night. Yeah, be full of piss and vinegar. Well, you know what? If I want to just get a good doze in, I should just go to living with the land, right? That's what I do anyway. Which part of living with the land would you sleep in? Would it be in the lab, the science lab?

I don't know. Just field of tomatoes. Yeah, that science lab? I don't know. I just feel the tomatoes. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Really anywhere. Any part is completely suitable to sleep. What's the softest fruit you could make a bed out of? Jason?

Oh, gosh. Yeah, some of those tomatoes. Yeah, bananas. Depends, I guess, how much they've aged. Tomato might burst my way through that'd be like sleeping on a like a partially inflated air mattress like it's all it's all going by the end and then you know that

ends with a big splatter squash right maybe a big squash sleep too hard I think big squash maybe I mean that sounds I would like to see you sleeping on a big squash? Maybe. I mean, that sounds... I would like to see you sleeping on a big squash, but I don't think that's going to be comfortable for you. Yeah, that's going to be a great photo op, but I don't

know that that's going to give you eight hours. Oh, can I sleep on a raft in the fish farms? Just float on my back with the gators? It's not going to smell good in there. Here's a good one.

On the porch right before you go down the waterfall on Pirates in Disneyland. On that porch in the swamp. That's good. Any porches or the porch in Living with the Land right before the thunderstorm, you get a little white noise. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that'd be nice because there's no like animatronics

bothering you or anything happening that might distract you from getting a good night's sleep wrong there's an animatronic dog right there but uh oh but he's not doing jack shit so that's fine i'll sleep soundly yeah so look i mean like another we'll throw again throw this out to the listener what ride would you not want to sleep on and what ride would you want to sleep on sleep in i should say yeah let us know and then we'll kill a whole episode reading each and every response yeah we time filled i'm wasting um i liked that we uh got to have a lot of time not talking about dinosaur that was nice but um maybe we should get back to it so that we can stop one day um any other any other thoughts about dinosaur well i was trying to figure out like i we were talking about

we've talked about this before we're living with the land i've talked about how i think soren is better in california because of the facade and because of outside and i find like i i think we even underestimate sometimes how much all of the stuff around a ride makes us want to go on it it's like tower of terror even california which i know it's missing the the room in florida but like we didn't go on it that much even though it's a great ride and it's a fun ride system and they change it into guardians of the galaxy. And it's like my favorite ride in Disneyland now, but I'm trying to figure out, like,

I, I find so much of the queue on this ride, like not that fun. I don't like the building. I don't like it. Nothing draws me to it. It's out of the way. You don't like mustard pipes. I love mustard pipes, but I'll be honest. I didn's out of the way like you know like mustard pipes i love mustard

pipes but i'll be honest i didn't know about them until you know five hours ago it's mustard pipes the voice of bill nye aladar splashing in a fountain but i don't think i guess what i'm what i'm getting at is i think the ride is actually better than I give it credit for. I think the ride is better than my memory of it is. And even though I'm apparently still terrified of it, I think with like a different framing device or a different show building, I think I make a point to go to it every time. Let me ask, because this hasn't really come up. Were you guys dinosaur kids?

Did you ever have a dinosaur phase? A little bit, but nothing major. Not big time, but yeah, I dug them. And yeah, I'd certainly look forward to any museum trip that involves seeing bones or whatever. Yeah, I remember i had like little models of them i you know i feel like it lasted for like three months and then i was back to ninja turtles probably yeah i feel like i had a little fit i probably the way you guys are talking i probably had the biggest dinosaur phase i'm gonna go ahead and say there is a chunk of our

listeners who had a dinosaur phase and i'm very curious if people who were big dinosaur kids like this ride more, you know? Yeah, I see what you're saying. But also, like, you know, Jurassic, the original Jurassic Park ride is fantastic. Yeah. And I, you know, like it a lot more. And I don't think it's just because it's tied to the movie because it's like you don't see any like of the human actors there's no robot really on that ride so i think it's just a better ride in general i mean i think that's not

controversial what i'm saying i'm not some genius who's come to that conclusion yeah i think that's right i mean i like i do like this or i really liked it when i was younger um but i wrote it when we went down uh last year to when we were in orlando i wrote it and uh i liked it it did strike me how much of the ride is hidden by darkness but uh yeah at a nice time yeah wait. Pretty short wait when I was there. Another thing when you compare it to Indie, which is unfair, but it's also fair because it's the same thing. Same track and everything. It's like this one, it feels small. Indie, you really feel like, oh my God, we're in this giant temple and it like art directed well and your eye goes to these different

scenes and like it's such a it's such a giant crazy experience going on indie still to this day yeah and this almost feels like you're on a bigger like dark ride like this feels like somehow much smaller in scale for like like imagine you have never been on this ride and imagine you're like okay here you have the track for indiana jones you have that size show building it's going to be it's going to be the exact same right except dinosaurs and you'd be like holy shit you would imagine like turning the corner when you see like the giant temple in indiana jones but like a giant dinosaur in the distance or something you'd be like oh my god it doesn't feel like that at all it's absolutely i hear exactly what you're saying yeah it feels like you go into like little tiny show scenes where a dinosaur pokes out and you go

oh that's not it and then you move on it's like it. It's not bad. It's a room of small rooms and false guessing. Yeah. It's not, again, I don't, it's not bad. I think it's better than I'm giving it credit for, but there's just a lot of like little things where I go, well, if you have all the same resources as Indiana Jones, I don't know why the ride itself feels like this from queue pre-show to the actual ride itself, it's so, I don't know. I don't know why.

It should be better. There's not enough tricks. The dinosaurs either roar at you or they fly over you, and that's kind of it. Yeah, I guess it's, I mean, the limitations from just having animatronic dinosaurs, I'm sure it's

a big part of it but it should i don't know why the scope isn't somebody's going to be mad at me a lot of people are gonna be mad at me for saying this because i think this is actually like a sleeper ride for people but i think it might be yeah i know i i don't know that people will agree with what we're landing on we just kind of don't like it but uh hey, we can't lie. I don't know. But Jurassic Park has a scope. There's a scope to it. Like dinosaurs in general should be, you should feel like the first, you know, that scene of in Jurassic Park where they see, I forget which dinosaurs, the long neck dinosaurs where they're like, it's that wow moment where you go, oh, my God, it's dinosaurs. And they have that same moment, which they, of course, have gotten rid of on the new Jurassic Park Jurassic World ride where you go into the thing and you go, welcome to Jurassic Park and the majesty and how big the dinosaurs are. And I feel like you get even more of that from the universe of energy than you do from here. I totally. Yes.

You know what? Because the brontosaurus are so tall i don't feel like any of these dinosaurs are tall i think it's just missing like taller ceilings bigger right isn't the isn't the carnivore uh the carnivore is kind of kind of short it feels like that i mean and then when you think of the indiana j building, I don't know if this building is maybe doesn't have as high a ceiling, but Indiana Jones building feels like it's 10 stories tall. I'm sure it's not that tall, but it feels so tall and it feels so expansive. The scale is much bigger. The theater tricks work better on Indiana Jones. I mean, I'll agree for sure.

I agree with that. Well, and if we're comparing it to both the Jurassic Park ride and the Indiana Jones ride, which all feels kind of fair, both are, unfortunately, both are tied to film franchises that we really love and no knock on Aladar and Kron or anything. No offense to Kron. It's a no no never want to offend cron never no offense but uh praise be to cron in cron we trust but it's not only that you in both jurassic park and indiana jones you're getting not just the connection to the franchise we love but also the stirring score of both and moments being punctuated by this this score that gives us feelings otherwise and then this just doesn't have music it's just like

is that it nope not our dino just loud sounds and there's no um majesty in this it's just uh it's very stressful i feel like like uncut gems it's like because i think when you're in the in the queue the queue is sort of setting you up for more of a jurassic park type experience yes it's very like look at how big these things were isn't this amazing like dinosaurs existed they were big and then the ride is this like very like you know tense unpleasant thing i mean i almost think it would be better if it was like the ride was called dino hunters and you know you went through like Transformers-style base, and they were like, all right, here's the deal.

We need to kill as many dinosaurs as we can. Dinosaurs have been running amok in this part of the jungle. It would get you at least in the right headspace for this type of ride. Come back with Kron's body, or you don't get to come back. Deliver the head of cron to my desk or you will be drummed out of the academy we are dino hunters and it's like all right dinosaurs are the enemy we're getting ready for like a very like tense ride a kind of a thrill experience is it like and it's a video that starts with a guy the lights are off and he's

just a silhouette and then a light hits him and he's wearing like a velociraptor hide as a big trench coat with a hood yes that's good and that shows you that he's had previously successful missions um i guess we want to show exotic i I guess. Yes. I have dinosaurs. That's all. I kind of think that we would all be sort of less conflicted because I'm trying to work through my feelings here. I think we'd all be a little less conflicted if it was all sort of a unifying thing. If it all felt like a unified ride. It shouldn't be very warm at the beginning uh and up through like it's a warm building you look at it's the wonder of seeing dinosaur bones you meet felicia rashad who's a very warm

personality and then it hands off to you know will weasley dr seeker and then it's all unpleasant after that it's like there's a hard divide there so you want an all warm ride or a ride that's all murdering dinosaurs it really ups the tension at the end once it starts counting down to a catastrophic meteor strike which is kind of a neat trick but also like oh well i know this ride is going to be over soon they are counting down until the end of it yeah that's weird too yes you're right you're like in a hurry the whole time yeah and i mean there's obviously contradictions to what i'm saying there's rides that are sort of like you know fronts for like fake like they're much more pleasant in the queue and everything it's just i feel like it eases you into what's happening more than this one does

it's just jurassic park is very warm and then very severe but not until the climb and the climb is the trans you get is the transition so you get the wonder of dinosaurs and then you get the terror of dinosaurs and this kind of doesn't ever give you wonder though the entire actual ride part is is just very stressful and also i think i don't know exactly how i've presented it but i kind of feel like a good ride has like three or four five moves like different little things that you go oh yeah and then that happened it was cool oh that happened it was cool and it could be anything it could be optimus prime saying he's proud of you it could be like a little drop whatever it is this doesn't know that i'd consider that a move but okay well i move is that maybe not the best way to just drop and being told you're proud or both

moves well a moment i should say moments different moments where you go oh and that was cool. This has the same moment over and over again. Yeah, which is like, ah, oh, God. Yeah. So it's interesting. Yeah, I really don't think I'm as negative as I'm sounding like it now. I'm just trying to figure out what it is about it. Well, let me ask, will this story change your opinion? The biggest news story about this attraction in the last 10 years do you guys know about this in 2013 a woman found a loaded gun in a ride vehicle

so that person was thinking that they had the dinosaur hunter idea before I did. And they wanted to be prepared to, I guess, yeah, to shoot the Carnotaurus. She thankfully did not open fire on the Carnotaurus, turned the attraction into cast members, cast members passed it along, turned the gun in to cast members,

passed it along to the authorities. The owner of the gun said he did not know about Disney's policy against weapons, and he did not know about disney's policy against weapons and he did have a concealed weapons permit so that was uh yeah you know that could just happen before they had the metal detectors yeah that was the old days i'm sure there's no way anybody could sneak anything weird in now sure it's a foolproof system uh yeah that's a little bit scary um you gotta be protected in case i don't know pluto comes at you yeah yeah yeah

you really how does he know all the other how does he know all the plush characters don't have uh weapons as well yeah i well i think maybe they were also like thinking like well on the safari too we should be prepared you know in case a giraffe attacks us notoriously aggressive animals yeah um yes that's the story uh i was reading and this is i forget where i was reading it so forgive me um there's been a lot of chatter recently in the last few years about them doing something to this ride. Like, the biggest rumor, of course, is that they're going to make it into the Indiana Jones ride. Yeah. Right. But there was a new thing I read, and this might be new as of a year or two ago and who knows of

course with the state of the economy right now when anything ever will happen with theme parks again honestly i i am wondering if the epic world whatever the third universal park even happens now who knows oh no it might not uh i wonder if mario will just sit there at Universal Hollywood for like unbuilt for five years after this. Who knows? Anything's possible. Too sad to think about. Sorry. Sorry to bring everyone down again.

Now we're sad. Now Jason's finally, it's hit him. This whole thing is a bummer. I mean, I'm just feeling really excited and cool about like, oh, cool.

Going on a ride and finding a gun. Neat. Yeah, sorry. And then you brought us down. Sorry. The idea of lifeless Koopa Troopers, let alone Koopa Paratroopers. Oh, so sad. They'll never move again.

But I read and this now I was like i was always like oh i guess that's okay if they just put the indiana jones right over there it's like obviously we'd all want a new ride cooler ride but someone brought up the speculation or i guess the rumor that they would keep the dinosaurs on the ride in indiana jones would be added to the ride in Indiana Jones would be added to the ride. Oh, yeah. And I was like, hell yes. I want that. I was thinking, Indiana Jones has met aliens now, but he hasn't met dinosaurs yet. I think I was like,

oh, Indiana Jones goes to the island of the dinosaurs? Sign me up. Oh, man. I mean, I guess he could go in a time machine, too, but I like the idea there's like a secret island of dinosaurs and then I was like okay yep yep let's do that remember remember in the like

Saturday afternoon like syndicated cheapy dramas there was a lost world show for a while the um is it Jules Verne or Robert Lewis Stevenson lost world but very conveniently done when the movie lost world was in the air I don't remember this at all robert lewis lewis stevenson lost world but very conveniently done when the movie lost world

was in the air i don't remember this at all oh because that title was up for grabs yes so you can confuse people sir arthur conan doyle's the lost world that's who it was ah okay so yeah so if if there's ever any money freed up to do anything to Dinosaur in the next decade, I fully rubber stamp Indiana Jones meets the dinosaurs. So what are the moments of this? Do we get to see him like whip a raptor? I think he probably has to at least whip toward a raptor. I think there should be a scene where he's in one of the dinosaurs mouths. His feet are sticking out like wiggling,

like he's about to be eaten by a dinosaur. And then like, he does something to free himself or we help him free, get free from the dinosaur. You can tell that there's trouble because like a, you know, like a baby Triceratops ended up with his hat. Oh yeah.

That's good. i'm yeah that let's see what else he brought a nazi with him and you get to see a t-rex devour and that's good yeah perfect um maybe like there's a big dino and he like kind of looks at you and he goes, at least it's not a snake. Yeah, that's good. All for that. There's a boulder that starts rolling, or so you think, but when it gets a little more lit, it's a big brontosaurus shit.

It's Aladar's shit. It's an Iguanodon's giant shit rolling toward Indiana Jones in the vehicle. Oh, cover your noses, everyone. Oh, no. And then you can use like that grass, like that dirt grass smell from Soarin'. And then you go around the corner

and then you see like the wreckage, but it's that it all hit him and it's like you see like the the wreckage but it's that it it all it all hit him and it's like biff and the manure yes it's like biff and the manure and there should be another ride vehicle stuck in it like another time time rover vehicle time rover thank you an animatronic of you wincing stuck in a big pile of iguanodon shit. Oh, wow. That's great. Yeah. This ride sounds so much better. This is great. Indiana Jones versus the dinosaurs.

Wait, you said the island of dinosaurs? Would it be called Indiana Jones and the Island of Dinosaurs? That was my suggestion. I like that. I like it. The Temple of Dinosaurs? Yeah. My suggestion was like, there's no time travel. It's just like there's a secret like he finds an island that

still has dinosaurs on it somewhere this is what I've I've complained about this four or five times I'm sure on the show at this point but this is what George Lucas's sort of idea was not specifically dinosaurs but was going to be every movie was a different crazy genre like this yeah every genre

of like pulp novel. Right. So like his idea was Indiana Jones and the Saucerman from Mars, and it would have been like, I think like Mars Attacks meets Indiana Jones, which is awesome. And then Temple of Doom came out and people were like, this isn't like the first one. And then they just have been remaking the first movie ever since.

Guys, I got to tell you, I just found the best eBay item. Rare Disney 2000 dinosaur movie, Baby Alador pop-up watch. Whoa, Jason found it. What do you mean, pop-up watch? He pops out of an egg. He pops out of an egg, and there's a very small lcd screen all right i've made i've made an i don't mind i don't mind this guy he is not as horrifying to me i've made an offer for ten dollars i like him more i like this plastic baby aladar more actually actually you know what their

shipping is five let me make an offer for $8 or $7. Then let me break down my feelings. Plastic toy Baby Aladar, fine. CGI film Baby Aladar, hell no. I don't like Baby Aladar in this watch nearly as much as I do with CGI Aladar. Yeah, I got to agree with Mike. It's because I said I like it. It's not. No, it like it. It's not.

No, it's not. It's not. The other baby's better. If I sent you guys a 4 a.m. text out of nowhere, out of context, a baby Aladar, you would all say, this is bad. I'm going back to sleep. There's no way. I will pass a lie detector test. Hook me to a lie detector and ask me about the cuteness of all these characters i've

said i like madness i do a i do a podcast with maniacs i think look i'm very very sane when it comes to cuteness i am very within my uh mental faculties uh i found i found a Aladar McDonald rubber dino hand puppet. Oh, I just sent you the hand puppet. I just sent that. Oh, you did? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I hate this. We're back to hate for me.

Aladar hand puppet. It's a little too expensive. And I have too many toys but if anyone has an aladar rubber hand puppet and we do a live show in the next decade feel free to gift this to me um uh i'll i'll say this though after all of this uh animosity between me and baby aladar we could make up for all of it if when indiana jones goes to the island of dinosaurs if we get to see baby aladar eating mutt williams all is forgiven baby aladar oh man baby aladar eating mutt williams just the leg yeah just again just the legs you see him like

like writhing around just his cuff denim oh yes his blue suede shoes switchblade on the ground um well did we do it did we survive podcast i think so well the last uh this isn't anything i really need to say but it's the last note i had was that i think it's clear that they picked carna i can always always Karnasaur. Now I can't say anything. Karnasaurus. Karnatoris. What?

Karnatoris. Geez. We've, I've lost my mind trying to remember all these names. Uh, uh, I, it's pretty clear.

It's pretty clear to me that they were like, okay, we cannot have the T-Rex be at the end like Jurassic Park ride. So let's come up with a different dinosaur that's almost exactly the same as a T-Rex in scary. Well, that's what I was saying. They had recently discovered that one and they conveniently slotted it in. But I have to, that's, I mean, I'm not making some genius point here, but don't you think that's why they chose this dinosaur?

Oh, for sure. Yeah, I think early on they probably were like, well, obviously the scariest big one is a T-Rex. But yeah, that is complicated when it's so identifiable. It seems like they went with a bunch of dinosaurs that were not used in Jurassic Park, like the common ones. There's a raptor. There is a raptor in this ride.

There is a raptor, yes. It's not really a super scary moment. I don't know. It's hard to make the raptor scary in the Universal one, too. Well, supposedly that, I mean, I think the roller coaster is being built for Islands next year, so maybe that one will have to be finished. Yeah. But supposedly that has a little, a little section in the Raptor cages.

So let's see if they can make the Raptors as scary as they are in the movie. Yeah. We'll see. We'll see what the future of dinosaur based entertainment holds. Something to look forward to in a crazy time. That's right. At least someday there will

be robot dinosaurs again we get a live action cg at aladar you know what i'm saying i think aladar on disney plus baby aladar sort of the better call saul for aladar and dinosaur to see him as a baby so multiple seasons of baby Aladar to see what formed him, how he got his principles to see what shaped him as a, as an adult man dinosaur. Sounds great. I think that's all great. Yeah.

And I think, uh, Jason Sheridan should motion cap the Aladar. If called to serve. The baby Aladar dinosaur. If called to serve. If called to serve. Yeah. I'm a little baby. I'm just baby

Aladar. Jason, could you do a little I'm yawning. Jason, do a little of your baby Aladar for us. Does it sound like Stitch? I don't know. It might. I'm hungry for plant. Oh, wow. He's a little baby.

He's cute. He has a cute voice. Oh, Jesus. Say I'm hungry for plants again for me. One more time. I'm hungry for plant. Adorable. Plant singular.

A plant. I'm wiggling. What am I doing? Oh, wow. I love this. This is great. I made a little pee peepee this is definitely cute do you like baby do you like baby uh from dinosaurs better than baby aladar do you think

cute yes yes i may like baby from dinosaurs better but i don't know that i think baby from dinosaurs is baby sinclair is not cuter but baby sinclair is more like funny and endearing yeah baby i think he is more aesthetically pleasing well there's gonna be a lot of debate raging when this comes out yeah scott banging on a keyboard to write us a stern letter about how much he doesn't like baby Alatorre. Truly, this is madness. Although, oh God, I just looked a baby Sinclair toy. Wait, where did it go? God, it was like I imagined it in a Shucko-esque fashion.

I saw like a bunch of unpainted baby sinclair's oh my god it went away it was in the preview and now i'm not uh there's some horrifying baby sinclair dolls um oh yeah i found one uh maybe what i'm fine i don't maybe i don't want to raise a baby dinosaur that's what i'm see that one's that one's okay okay well we'll buy that for you i don't like that it says gotta try me gotta try me try me gotta try me here's a child's baby sinclair costume oh god oh no oh he's got like a plush it's like a foam head and a like a big diaper and separate skin tone pants this is not good um okay look i'm gonna i'm gonna hit the escape

from this video or from this video from this this episode, you survive pockets, right. But I'll also say, I'll tie this into the socials by saying, go to our Twitter and perhaps also our Instagram or Facebook to see some of these horrifying things, but also one more thing. Oh God. Oh God. What is this weird? I don't know. It's like a knockoff ripoff. Bart. Um, um,

well, you can see lots of horrifying baby Sinclairs and Aladars, uh, at our, at our Twitter at podcast to ride. Um, Oh God, please stop.

Please stop. Let me, let me though. Also send you what I think is the, is the ultimate in 2000 dinosaur aesthetics. You guys check your text messages. I got to check out a little of the dinosaur Game Boy Color game. Oh, wow.

And the stills of this that I'm sending and I'll post on Twitter, I think are like vapor wave masterpieces. Oh, good. These are unbelievable. I hate the aesthetic of the film this i'd watch a whole movie of this no problem oh yeah this is like you could imagine like some like city pop playing yes yes these are all like album covers waiting to happen like aladar is blue he's like he's a very royal blue there's a weird thing that says in really 8-bit font these pillars indicate the exit and

it looks like bloody stones i don't know what i'm looking at there and then a close-up of a very pixelated aladar eye that says lemur island is gone these are great and then this really like sad gathering of four dinosaurs you can't tell what half of them are and then i like stepped down eight bit rainbow and it says you win these are this is like some of the best aesthetics i've ever seen so credit to the makers of the game daft punk song lemur island is gone if you're a vaporwave artist take lemur island is gone for an album please it's waiting it's waiting for you i was doing a lot of i texted you i was doing i'm doing listening to a lot of marauder hey that's good news that's smart oh very good uh any discoveries anything you want

to share do you have you do you know the giorgio marota and joe esposito album solitary you mentioned who's joe esposito i actually don't i forget he's there's a song he has i gotta look it back up uh but the album is fantastic wow okay it's like i yeah he's i gotta look him up here he's a singer he uh he's an older man he's uh i'm stalling he's an older man he's uh he's an older man singer while i look it up uh he's he's written songs donna summer aretha franklin i'm trying to think of what his uh i don't know the point the point is uh look at the stills that we're posting of the dinosaur game boy color game um and you know by the way in general game boy color uh there's some pretty fun stuff on game boy color i was not aware of this area um but i found a game boy color game maybe we just have to play this over on twitch which is another thing i can promote

so we've been doing stuff on twitch and having fun there um but there is a shrek game for game boy color and the game is called Fairytale Freakdown. And I flipped a part of the game in which Shrek is in a fist fight with Pinocchio. He's just punching Pinocchio in the face. Wow. Fairytale Freakdown rules. I think I'm off of Dinosaur. I think I'm a big Game Boy Color guy.

So play Dinosaur for Game Boy Color and listen to Marauder, and you'll be in aesthetic heaven. Yeah. rules i think i'm i think i'm off of dinosaur i think i'm a big game boy color guy so play dinosaur for game boy color and listen to marauder and you'll be in aesthetic heaven yeah wow and uh as for other uh bullshit you can always find that three extra episodes of bullshit a month on patreon.com slash podcast the ride that's the second gate anything else fellas i think that's it just i'm pretty worn out. That's a little too much Aladar for one day for anyone. I could do a little more Aladar, but I agree. It's almost done.

It's almost exhausted. If you guys want to do a talking Aladar after show, feel free. Oh, yeah, maybe. I'm getting hungry. I'm going to have to eat more plant. Oh, is that baby Aladar? He's back. He's back.

Oh, baby Aladar. Oh, is that Baby Aladar? He's back. He's back. Oh, Baby Aladar. Oh, love him. He's the baby. Gotta play with him. What was it? Try me. Gotta try me. Oh, God. Where's the God bombs when I need them?

Baby Sinclair and Baby Aladar on the same show. Oh, wow. Let's do it. Real odd. Let's make it happen. They own them both. They own them both. They own them both. Yeah, they own them both.

All right. Well, I'm good. I'm more than good. Goodbye, everybody. Forever. Dog. This has been a Forever Dog production. Executive produced by Mike Carlson,

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