Podcast: The Ride - Disneyland Fortune Tellers with Avery Monsen

Starting point is 00:00:00 Forever Dog. guest Avery Monson on today's podcast, The Ride. Welcome to Podcast The Ride, the only theme park podcast that will reveal to you whether you are about to take a great journey or meet the love of your life. But we have to warn you, it's not both. So choose very wisely which one you want. I'm Jason Sheridan, joined as always by Mike Carlson. Wait, did you say you get to choose which one? But you're also going to find out? Just be careful.

Starting point is 00:01:10 Your decisions. Wait, so you were saying to be careful. You weren't actually saying... I'm saying one of those two will happen, but they both can't happen. Right, but didn't you say you get to choose? Like the listener gets to choose? The listener may come to a crossroads look i was having real trouble coming up with this and i think i did an okay job doing it in like 10 seconds i'm

Starting point is 00:01:31 just trying to clarify what you were saying that's all maybe i misheard i could be the asshole here choose wisely listener something a great thing awaits you but not both things scott garner how do you how did you interpret the the future well i got distracted i kind of got distracted above with the actual meaning because what i got caught on is that it was like it was already like a pretty like long thing and then it and and then you ended like so be careful which one you want like it's still at a little addendum a little under its breath i really i really liked it it could have it could have gone on twice as long you could have added a few more things like pick a pick a number also which number will it be you that will correspond to what your fortune shall be and then it could have been more things one of the seers

Starting point is 00:02:27 we're about to talk about today uh i did see one of their uh fortunes they read said one of your lucky numbers is two as i do like there's a bunch of them but here's one of them a lot of the cards that they give you are extremely long-winded like some of these fortunes yes do certainly go on and on and on yeah so i will read every card we'll read every card that we could find that all of the we found everyone in the the uh whatever 65 year history of the park and we're gonna read all all of them. Right. Do we have anyone in the audience that could make us a Jason fortune teller box with an animatronic in it

Starting point is 00:03:09 and then we could just have Jason riff on a bunch of these things and put them in there as a recorded audio. We must have somebody in the audience that does this. Obviously there's a fortune teller maker that there has to be. Any random pool of people you're going to find a fortune teller maker that there has to be any random pool of people you're gonna find

Starting point is 00:03:26 a fortune teller maker yeah for sure okay he's not my guy but I found a guy and that I'll but before we get into it what? you do know a guy? he's not your guy not personally I saw a video about a guy

Starting point is 00:03:41 we'll get to that shortly alright let's see who your to that shortly all right let's see you guys i'm excited uh let's bring in our guest uh you know him from hbo's high maintenance and he's the best-selling author of the book all my friends are dead and the upcoming book i am the longest dog avery monson is here hi avery guys what a pleasure to be here jason i thought the joke was great i thought it was great as a fortune and i feel feel like it really applied to me specifically. I'm happy with that as a fortune. Okay, good. I appreciate that. And so, you are married, so hopefully you've already met the love of your life, so I guess you're taking a long journey, maybe a train.

Starting point is 00:04:25 I guess that's right. Um, yeah. Every, every day is a chance to discover, uh, new depths of love though. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:04:33 Well, that is true. You could fall. Is it like, yeah, the love of your life is maybe just a nice piece of furniture. Like it could be anything. It doesn't have to be a human.

Starting point is 00:04:42 It doesn't have to be. Yeah. It could be anything really. Or like woodworking, woodworking now is your first love. I doesn't have to be a human. It doesn't have to be anything, really. Or like woodworking. Woodworking now is your first love. I don't know. You decide. You decide.

Starting point is 00:04:52 Yeah. We've got time for lots of hobbies to be the love of our lives. Right. This whole lockdown's done. Yeah. So, yeah, anything is possible. I think we should just keep giving each other fortune. We should each tell each other's fortune as this episode goes on, maybe.

Starting point is 00:05:08 So if you want to call, anyone can call on any other person in this Zoom to give you a fortune, I think. Let's just have that rule on the table. That's always there as a possibility. Yeah, sure. Yeah. So, yeah, any time. Any time doesn't matter how many times or how few times. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:05:24 I mean, I think that's fine. Meddling with things, you know, powers beyond our control, that usually works out, right? Our fortune tellers, are they, I guess they're tapped into some sort of dark arts. Yeah, I think for sure it counts as the dark arts, for sure. Okay. Well, let's test it. Let's test playing with the dark arts for sure okay well let's uh let's uh test it let's test uh playing with the dark arts today because we have done that very far too little on this podcast i think we've

Starting point is 00:05:53 discussed it but yeah actually doing it is a whole nother let's open the gates of hell right now and here i would like yes like mark the opposite opposite Marin of course open the gates of hell and and which dark spirits are your guys would you say oh Cerberus Cerberus yeah Beelzebub Beelzebub

Starting point is 00:06:20 oh oh Bono's alter ego Mr. McFisto from the Zoo TV tour two Mr. McFisto from the Zoo TV tour. Two Mr. McFistos for the year so far. How many will fit into 2021? We'll keep a running tally. He's sort of over

Starting point is 00:06:36 my shoulder in this episode, guiding my dark thoughts. So yeah, if you want to get a fortune directly from him, ask me during this episode yeah and that is our topic we were talking about the Disneyland fortune telling

Starting point is 00:06:51 machines which Avery this is one you mentioned kind of in passing as like oh if we have time we you know we could talk about fortune read and I was like can you tell me more about Fortune Red?

Starting point is 00:07:07 Because this is one that I, I have missed. I mean, I've done one of these fortune tellers, but like the, the two fortune telling machines that like tie in with the Disney Play app was like a new story at the end of 2018. And I just missed it entirely. Yeah. Do any of you guys regularly go to the fortune telling machines? Never. No, never once.

Starting point is 00:07:28 And I'm not sure that I've... There's certainly one of them. So we're talking about three. There are three fortune telling machines. There's three and sort of a fourth. Oh. The Aladdin's other lamp. Do you know about Aladdin's other lamp?

Starting point is 00:07:44 I knew about that one. Wow, you're presenting things we don't know at all, or at least I know. Yeah, this is good. I'm impressed by it. I didn't intend that to be like a gotcha journalism. I didn't want to... Watch your asses, guys.

Starting point is 00:07:56 I'm going to bring up stuff you don't know about. Well, I should have scrambled and gone like, well, yes, in fact, I've got my notes right here. Tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. Yeah, Aladdin's other lamp is in a corner of, I think it's in a corner of one of the stores in Adventureland. It's just like a little lamp

Starting point is 00:08:14 that's back in the back of one of the gift shop stores and you can put in 50 cents or whatever and smoke will come out of it and it'll talk to you. It's not really an animatronic like the other ones, but it'll give you a fortune. I have seen this now, yeah. In a voice from the movie? Is it a genie

Starting point is 00:08:34 or what is it? It is a genie doing some sort of a Middle Eastern sounding accent that probably isn't good. So I go to these things I didn't pay for them ever when i used to go but now that it now that this uh disney parks at what's the app called the play play disney parks app yeah yes uh they they have made a function on the app where if you open up the fortune red or the Esmeralda,

Starting point is 00:09:05 uh, section of the app, you can get a fortune for free. Uh, and not only is it a fortune, but it will, it will give you, uh,

Starting point is 00:09:15 one piece of a story that other people don't get to have. If you just put in money on the street without the app, you can't get these stories. I don't think. And they're like long stories. I have the cards here that no one else is doing as far as I know. I've looked up, you know, like pretty much anything at the Disney parks. If you Google it, someone else has done it.

Starting point is 00:09:43 You know what I mean? Of course. I Googled the text of these and no one else no one is doing this uh this seems to be a lot of effort that someone has put into these that no one is taking up except for me as far as i can find yeah that's interesting i i have not seen i haven't searched for it but i haven't seen anyone do this i haven't seen fresh baked disney doing this i haven't seen any of the vloggers that's interesting you're the only you should be vlogging about it honestly i should start yeah yeah you should you should yeah show us the journey here can i this

Starting point is 00:10:14 is fascinating can i back you way up because also when this all started getting talked about as a topic that there is app interactivity in your phone with the fortune telling machines i guess i knew that there were a few of those in the park. I definitely knew about Esmeralda, who's in the Penny Arcade on Main Street. But when an email about you coming on came in, this is the first that I'd ever seen the phrase fortune read. That's how backwards I am on all this. I didn't know fortune read at all.

Starting point is 00:10:41 Mike and Jason, am I crazy to not know about fortune red where does that i didn't know you didn't know either no okay well again you really found an area here i remember walking by him i i think maybe let's start with um the the one who is not tied into the app because this one i do know and i have done before and i'm talking about shrunken dead shrunken the the shrunken head in a machine a fortune telling machine in adventureland it used to be in the bazaar shop at adventureland and now it's kind of moved over to the extended seating for the um uh oh mike what is it called the kebab place uh the bengal barbecue yeah yeah yeah so it's in there uh and it it spits out cards that like have him on it it's he he is like a british

Starting point is 00:11:36 uh sorry of his full name here colonel nedley lost more uh he is a british explorer uh who at some point along the lines got his uh got became a shrunken head um and and he he's very sassy yes uh and he talks to you he talks and spits out he's sassy to you with his voice the other two don't talk really right um yeah you remember getting the best show with this one i i would think of the three shrunken shrunken ned in my opinion is the best of the three uh if if you can look past the sort of like colonialist uh i mean this is like a this is a british man whose head has been cut off by somebody, that makes you feel not great about it, maybe, right? Yeah, I was gonna bring that up, of like, how do we think Disneyland shrunken heads

Starting point is 00:12:32 are long for this world? I mean, this one appears to be a colonizer who got some comeuppance, so he might be okay. Yeah, okay, so that, yeah, I guess we can feel okay about that. But he's by far the funniest out of all of them. He's got, like, fortunes.

Starting point is 00:12:51 One of the fortunes that I saw is just, it's like a prescription, and the card is totally unintelligible. It's, like, in handwriting, and you can't read any of it because it's, like like a doctor's prescription. That's a pretty good joke for a fortune telling little booth, right? Yeah, for sure.

Starting point is 00:13:15 He's very adventurer's club-esque. He's got that vibe, that era of Disney. Do we have a date actually when he was put in? I don't know exactly when he was put in but there is a disney parks blog post from 2014 where they made a little video showing people like you know yeah getting their fortune he him talking to them and reading the cards and that sort of thing so they were plugging it up to a

Starting point is 00:13:42 few years ago i think he maybe came in yeah i think he's i think the the earliest he was was the the 90s um indiana jonesification of adventureland like when it all sort of got a more coherently 1930s theme and he's kind of a 30s guy uh so that's the old yeah he this is not some waltz era remnant uh um and he is in fact voiced by an imagineer of the era eddie soto um oh yeah yeah yeah paris disneyland paris okay yeah yeah there's a lot of interesting interviews with him on season pass i feel i think yeah season pass and other places he's got a lot of interesting interviews with him on Season Pass. I think, yeah, Season Pass and other places. He's got a lot of Baxter-era stories.

Starting point is 00:14:29 I think it worked under Tony a lot. That's fun. It's a fun voice. It's sort of in that... I was going to say Peter O'Toole. It's not exactly that, but sort of that. Toity, toity.

Starting point is 00:14:47 It's that generally my boy good show he says patronize uh you thank you for patronizing uh and he is what's his little like catchphrase that he's the the jungle's only self-service witch doctor. Um, it's all fun. It's all like fun little world building. It's like a, a good, um, example of, I like, I like all this stuff they're doing to make adventure land,

Starting point is 00:15:13 a world, uh, that, that keeps extending beyond the jungle cruise where jungle cruise is kind of the base, but then there's you trader Sam's extends it and, and this extends it. Uh,

Starting point is 00:15:24 and it all ties into into the sea the society of explorers and adventurers and um i don't know this whole whatever they're doing this like continual adventure land expansion is is i think real neat i think they're all doing a good job with it yeah it's fun i mean it seems fun like it seems like a fun creative thing to like add to it well it seems like they're gonna i mean when they redo the it seems like a fun creative thing to like add to it well it seems like they're gonna i mean when they redo the jungle cruise that they've announced it i think i think it's you know time to take out some of those weird you know data are they anachronisms like and you can still keep it interesting and and you know um yeah i don't know yeah luckily

Starting point is 00:16:03 i don't think there's been a ton of like people like so mad about the jungle cruise changes i mean i think all all the changes they've made like make a lot of sense in general but uh this one especially i feel like most people are like yeah yeah of course make the changes i think it's too obscure to be uh mad about like there's something like there's something that, forgive the pun, but there's something splashy about Splash Mountain, about the Splash Mountain. People know that name, and everybody

Starting point is 00:16:31 geared up that day to go like, you're gonna take my thing out and change it. This story ultimately is like, they are going to add probably cool new scenes that take out problematic elements of a ride. Like it's all like,

Starting point is 00:16:48 somebody's got to like really read the fine prints to know what they're supposed to be mad about with this story. Yeah, that's a good point. It's just like too much effort. It's too much work to be mad maybe, where you're like, all right, I got to figure out that there's bad native representation

Starting point is 00:17:02 and then there's one scene here and it's being replaced by skippers, and too much. I'm going to go back to something else. I can't. Usually, I would say I would love to meet blank. I do not want to meet the person who's like, you got to leave the porters being menaced by the tiger. You got to leave those porters there.

Starting point is 00:17:21 Yeah, I mean, for you to raise this think about that you have to be openly racist i think right i think so i also a big theme park fan like bully you have to have like encyclopedic theme park knowledge which is good and racism which is bad yeah there's a vanda i mean there's a vanda diagram for sure there yeah yeah yeah go to etsy search thin blue line mickey and you'll find it you'll find it in mere seconds you will find that immediately

Starting point is 00:17:52 um shrunken ned i since we're talking about world building uh shrunken ned is other appearances he is the namesake of the um uh the the jungle uh the little boats you drive around at the magic kingdom by the

Starting point is 00:18:07 jungle cruise i don't know if they're still there these little motor boats are called shrunken neds junior jungle boats and do they do they have another version of the of the shrunken ned fortune teller in magic kingdom or or is it is it just lending the name over there i think it's uh just lending the name there's a small nod to shrunken ned at the skipper canteen and at uh the trader sam's grog grotto at the polynesian the weirdest thing i found out about him and i didn't know these there's books called tales from adventure land yeah i got into this too. I went down a little rabbit hole with this one too, but tell us about it, Jason. So Tales of Adventureland is about Ned's grandson, I believe.

Starting point is 00:18:56 Okay. So this character that you, the listener, might be finding out about for the first time right now, there's all extended universe mythology about his grandson. Yes. So it's modern day then i think it's in the 30s kind of oh wait yeah you're what he was old enough in the 30s to have a grandson you're right you're right unless it's about the grandson being old now today but it doesn't sound like it is right no yeah it, so here's the, like the last names, this is not perfect one-to-one, because in the books, Ned is in a group called the Jungle Explorer Society, which is very,

Starting point is 00:19:37 like, they didn't have the sea thing, I think, worked out, or they didn't agree to put it in the book. And so he is also it this part i don't know is a little sus uh he was ambushed by a witch doctor slash assassin named bungalow bob yeah see that doesn't make you feel too good yeah that what it feels it's kind of a beatles rip off also that's that's another issue with it yeah really that's uncle bill yeah the the venn diagram of beatles fans who are racist and also care about deep cuts in the in the disney parks that that exhibit just adding more and more circles just adding more and more they know they're there okay so the grand stun and least andy stanley at some point

Starting point is 00:20:27 has to uh go retrieve a hidden key from the enchanted tiki room of course yeah the hidden key sure do they talk about keys in the tiki room or is that just that's something else they added that that is well the first book is called the key master's quest in this series that the the the big notable thing in this book is that there is a robot butler named Bolton house and it is clearly a nod to the robot

Starting point is 00:20:56 butler from horizons and then at some point in the book series um uh shrunken dead starts using the robot butler body as a mechanical like as a body i like that that's great that's fun yeah i like that a lot honestly how many of these books exist i i am not sure avery you said you looked into it i didn't i didn't see how many i didn't see how many books there were i went down a little rabbit hole looking up the author of this book,

Starting point is 00:21:28 who apparently has a collective of some other guys that all make steampunk guns together. Okay. I feel like that makes sense, right? Little blasters and things. Yeah. They sell them on an Etsy site or something. Okay. They have to be expensive, right?

Starting point is 00:21:49 Yeah, I think they're pretty expensive. More expensive than if you were to go to an Etsy store for thin blue line Mickey stuff, which I did and have since Jason brought it up. That stuff can be relatively cheap. I've been staring at it and it's been staring at me. Yeah, it's only $8.50 for

Starting point is 00:22:06 a wristband or something that you wear that on one side is a lot of Mickeys with police helmets and then minis with a bow and then an American flag pattern with the thin blue line. And then on the other side, it says, watch out, boys. My

Starting point is 00:22:21 daddy is a police officer. Jeez Louise. That's intense. watch out boys my daddy is a police officer jeez louise that's intense and then you rotate it a little bit more and it's the lyrics to lovely Rita Bienerbeet more unlicensed beetle stuff yeah

Starting point is 00:22:41 the Venn diagram is a Mickey head there's three circles and oh yeah um they should make i mean they should make these books into movies right people the public would want to see these adventures to take place around the disneylands right right the extended universe of the machines yeah uh so there's three okay there's three of these books there's three of these books i don't know how many books are in the king i feel like there's a lot more kingdom keeper books which i have not read and i feel like i have to um so i think i think i found the rabbit hole that i had gone down i looked up the author j Lethko of this novel, and in his bio on Penguin Random House,

Starting point is 00:23:30 he just, as like a throwaway line, he says he is a part of a mysterious society of adventurers called the Brotherhood of Thaumaturgic Cartographers. And then I googled that, and that's how I found all the steampunk stuff thaumaturgic is that the word you said thaumaturgic yeah t-h-a-u-m-a-t-u-r-g-i-c wow I've never heard that word before

Starting point is 00:23:56 is that a real word or did they make it up it's possible they made it up I'm looking it up now as a thaumaturgic having brought about or relating to Supernatural powers or magic Huh Well I gotta use that a lot more

Starting point is 00:24:12 Dropping on the conversation Everyone will be impressed Oh go ahead Can I ask for a fortune From Scott real quick Oh god How do these work um what is uh uh all right a uh an old friend will seek um your companionship but beware of his

Starting point is 00:24:46 non-virtuous intentions and he's got a knife. Look out. Oh shit. Wow. I feel like he really got you with this. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:24:58 Yeah, wow. He really got... Yeah. A friend of mine's going to try to kill me with a knife. Yeah. Yeah, but you think he's just seeking... I already don't remember a knife. Yeah. But you think he's just seeking... I already don't remember the beginning of it, but you think he's just seeking... Well, you were channeling.

Starting point is 00:25:11 It wasn't even really a conscious thing. You were channeling the dark spirit. No, that's what happens. That's why I delayed for a second and seemed upset to have to say a fortune. I was propelling my brain into the spiritual realm. You were being very thaumaturgergic. That was a pretty thaumativergical moment.

Starting point is 00:25:32 Yes. So, yeah, hey, feel free anytime, obviously. Many times. You want to hit me up for fortunes? Yeah, no, we all should be doing this more. For reminding us of this gun that can go off in this episode yes

Starting point is 00:25:48 much like a steam powered revolver this could go off at any moment and that is both a good and bad thing check off steampunk blaster yeah let me ask this question in general as we're talking about the fortune tellers

Starting point is 00:26:04 available at disneyland um any um every any of your fascination with this did it come from this hearing about this odd thing about the uh about the app interactivity or is this is this a an outgrowth of like you are detail oriented at the parks and want to find like the odd little off the beaten path experiences there yeah yeah so i mean i was thinking about this i was trying to like put put my finger on exactly what drew me to these things i think it's a couple things i think that part of it maybe was seeing the movie big a bunch as a kid where the the, where the Zoltar machine played a pretty big role, right? I think part of it was...

Starting point is 00:26:50 Jason, have you ever been to the Musée Mécanique in San Francisco? I have that written down. I have been to the Musée Mécanique. Okay, so I grew up in the Bay Area, and before the Musée Mécanique, which is, for people that don't know it's this it's a sort of warehouse full of these old old fortune tellers and and little uh uh like dioramas moving dioramas and things like that jason how how would you describe that place yeah it's like it

Starting point is 00:27:22 it's like the penny arcade at disneyland but much larger and you know guys like everything's kind of kind of right yeah but a lot of it you're shocked that it's like oh i put a quarter in and it works like yeah it does work i mean um i feel like i see the museum uh mentioned a lot uh with is it laughing sal? I forget. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like an eight foot tall woman, just a terrifying woman. Just a terrifying half puppet, half

Starting point is 00:27:54 animatronic thing, and you just pay it and it laughs. And it's scary. It scares children and the dogs. That's what you get? That's the point of it? That's what you get. Yeah, it's like the equivalent of, like, the movie with the train coming right at you,

Starting point is 00:28:10 or like... Oh, yeah. Scott, do you not know what Laughing Sal looks like? No. Oh, God. Yeah, Scott, this actually might be... This might be right up your alley. This might be your new thing.

Starting point is 00:28:22 Well, Laughing Sal... Yeah, this might be a version of what this is i've i've maybe talked about this before because i think there was one of these up on the top of the entrance to this ride that i'm very fond of the scary dark ride which was in uh in newport in the fun zone or on balboa island in orange county there used to be one of these like teetering up and down it looks like maybe on the santa cruwalk at some point. So yeah, I know this face. I dealt with my fear of this face already

Starting point is 00:28:50 in my childhood, so I'm not having to experience it new right now. So you're used to laughing Sal, and you're not scared of her like you are maybe Choco or the other clown I'm blanking on its name. Yeah, the one from the cereal boxes that we found

Starting point is 00:29:05 that was replaced by that bear. What's his name, Jason? Jason, what's that clown's name? It was similar. It was a chunk of Crispo. It wasn't Crispo. There's so many. I mean, there is definitely a clown named Crispo somewhere, though.

Starting point is 00:29:22 Right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's pretty much waiting to be a clown name Crispo somewhere, though. Right? Yeah, yeah. That's pretty much waiting to be a clown name, yes. I see a picture of him here. Yeah, I pulled up Sugar Smacks Clown

Starting point is 00:29:33 12 Forgotten Serial Mascots. Oh, people are yelling at us right now. I was close, though, I think. A lot of clowns are yelling at you right now. No, no, don't say that. We apologize. No, no, don't say that. We apologize. Anyway, talk amongst yourselves while I try to figure this out. So when I was in high school, I went to the Musée Mécanique a couple times.

Starting point is 00:29:54 And it actually, the place that it's in right now, which is on Fisherman's Wharf, before it was there, it was in this old place called the Cliff House, which is like way far out. Like on the end of San Francisco on the beach in this old building that was kind of falling apart. And so it made it like way creepier, way more like kind of grimy and fucked up, which to me was way better. And so and eventually, like sometime in my high school the building needed like structural maintenance or or they or they like lost their lease or something and then they had to find a better place for it but so that that sort of like old-timey like turn of the century like nickel machines um thing sort of occupied a weird space in my brain also a lot of them are like

Starting point is 00:30:47 like a little diorama where you'll you'll put in a nickel and you'll see like a an opium den do you know what i mean it's like yes or i've seen the opium den yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah or like you'll see like a man get hanged and and it's like it's like the uh the drunkard's revenge or so do you know what i mean it's like it's like some weird little morality tale like bizarrely harsh and like like a real not just a remnant of the time and that you're like looking at a thing that was made closer to the turn of the century but also remnant of the time and that it's like dark and clearly from a time where people like just kill each other in cold blood and like it was just like a grimier era like this is what you do for fun is think about opium dens

Starting point is 00:31:33 and and what uh hanging someone for being drunk what's what i wonder what's the issue in that one it's like the old-timey like cartoon all-stars to the rescue that's the only way they could scare you about things it's like you have to go to up to-stars to the rescue. That's the only way they could scare you about things. It's like you have to go up to a box and pay money to be scared into not doing something wrong. Because high schoolers could not resist the siren call of opium. Right. You had to take them to the scary box to scare them straight. Right.

Starting point is 00:31:59 Cliffy. Cliffy. Cliffy. Cliffy. Crispo was pretty close, I think. Crispo was close. Cliffy! Cliffy. Cliffy. Crispo was pretty close, I think. Crispo was close. Cliffy the Clown. Anyway.

Starting point is 00:32:08 So that was in my head. And the other thing that I think was that as a kid, I was super into magic. And there's a pretty big overlap in the history of magic with like robots and automatons and things like that. Like back in the guy's name is Jean-Eugène Robert Houdin. The guy that Houdini got his name from basically was like a watchmaker and a tinkerer. And a big part of his magic was these like robots and things right uh so yeah around the turn of the century they had these these robots were a sort of a big part of of magic and i was super into it as a kid so they

Starting point is 00:32:58 had this um there was one that was like a turk would play chess with people. Have you seen this? It's like a big box with a robot Turk on top, and he would play chess. And then eventually they found out that actually it wasn't a robot. It was a guy inside the box operating the thing as a puppet. But they lied to everybody and said that it was a robot. But there's a ton of stuff like that. That's the real secrets of magic. They either made an insane contraption, there's

Starting point is 00:33:29 a guy inside it, or it's a twin. Those are the usual explanations. Or a mirror. That's a lot of magic. Magician secrets revealed on all those specials, it's always just those three answers. Yeah, this one's a twin thing. We'll just go to commercial early because it's it's always just those three answers the answer basically yeah this one's a twin thing

Starting point is 00:33:46 uh we'll just go to commercial early because uh yeah it's twins um avery are you magic castle got like have you been to magic castle multiple times i have been to the magic castle a couple times i also there was this uh tv special that i watched a bunch as a kid that was uh mark summer's magical mystery tour that took place in the in the magic castle that was mark summers from from double dare uh having some hijinks in the magic castle after hours uh yeah and i saw that a bunch of times before i ever moved to la and ever got to see it so like when i finally got to the magic castle, I like knew my way around because of just seeing this special a bunch as a kid. Oh, oh, it like shows you the geography and all the like special details.

Starting point is 00:34:31 I mean, I just like would recognize rooms. Yeah, yeah. Wow. Wow. That's a cool special. That is like a really like genuinely creepy. And I feel like an all like a cool use of his power at the time. Like Nickelodeon owed him. So he did a cool thing of his power at the time like nickelodeon owed him so he did a cool

Starting point is 00:34:46 thing about the magic place that he loves like i feel like he'd be like that's a cool vanity projects to have done on mark summer's part yeah yeah yeah yeah um we haven't talked i mean we haven't talked a lot we've talked a little about magic castle i mean it feels like we probably owe it more discussion down the road. But I know they're going through some troubles of their own. They're going through some tough times right now. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:35:13 But also, you can vote there. They helped get the vote out. So thanks, Magic Castle. That's true. You can vote there. Yeah. And I did audio and visual for Bing Crosby's wife's musical performance in the basement at the musical. Oh, yes. That's where that was?

Starting point is 00:35:30 Yep. That's where it was. Is this the first podcast mention of your time working for... I don't think I even knew the relation until now. It was Bing Crosby's wife? Yes. I think this is odd that this hasn't come up on the show, and we'll talk about this at length a different time. Yes, I worked for Bing Crosby's wife, Catherine,

Starting point is 00:35:48 in some capacity doing PowerPoint while she would sing songs. And wait, PowerPoints, though? Yeah. With showing the bullets of what she's singing about? Trees, birds, lovely days? Just swooping in, spiraling in? Yeah, got to get transitions. about trees birds lovely days just swooping in spiraling in yeah there would be pictures of of the of the two of them uh there would be yeah pictures of the children perhaps and then there would be video she would play a video of her as a young lady singing with bing

Starting point is 00:36:18 from an old show and i would be responsible for hitting space bar. But that's a whole another. The cabaret act. It's a cabaret show. If Mrs. Crosby tries to get back into your life, watch out for a knife, man. Oh, yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You're right. Yep. If three days from now you get a call, you need

Starting point is 00:36:39 somebody to press the space bar again. That would be the craziest way I could die. Your first job comes back to haunt you um well when we do more magic castle i'll tell more about that story yeah i i will recommend um i don't know how many tickets are left but um the geffen playhouse in los angeles has been doing a run of different shows called the Geffen Stayhouse. And I saw a magic show from the comfort of, you know, home on my laptop called The Future. This sleight of hand, close up magic guy, Helder Guimaris, I believe is how you say the name and it was awesome they send you a

Starting point is 00:37:28 tube out of time they send you a mysterious box you were not allowed to open and you participate in the tricks like there was a thing that I did that I couldn't I have no idea how he did I there was one or two where I was like I think I see

Starting point is 00:37:44 it's very good it's a little I see. It's very good. It's a little pricey, but it's very good. And directed by Mr. Frank Marshall, the producer of Jurassic Park. Good friends with Jimmy Buffett. Yeah, there you go. Jimmy Buffett's best friend. Best friend, yeah, yeah. So that's the reason to support it.

Starting point is 00:38:03 Jason, bad news. I got a fortune for you a seemingly innocuous tube in your home may be soon soon involved in your demise okay well i'm not allowed to talk about what was in the tube or what i was supposed to do with the tube but i i do recommend it to people it's a little pricey but you get a tube that will apparently kill me uh only Jason won't. Everybody else is fine. If anybody else wants the tube, you're good. Everyone else is fine. Okay. Scott's fortunes are scary.

Starting point is 00:38:30 Yeah, so far, two for two on the fortunes ending in death. That's how they work, right? Avery, could you give Jason a fortune real quick? Jason, the spirits are reaching out to tell you,

Starting point is 00:38:47 don't go outside. Wow, another war thing. Great. That is not difficult. I'll wait, there's more. Because of an old friend is approaching also with a knife. What? Okay, well now, hold on a sec.

Starting point is 00:39:07 This seems like I'm going to run into Mike and we're just going to both go for each other because of these warnings. Yeah, it's driving you both mad. Yeah, yeah, you're assuming it's the other. Well, so maybe there's a knife in that tube Scott was talking about. Jason's going to go for it

Starting point is 00:39:23 and it'll slip out of his hands and he'll stab himself Yeah it's kind of the gift of the magi But with two friends stabbing each other Oh my gosh This is awful I should not have called for fortunes Now you know She wins

Starting point is 00:39:36 Big mistake on my part As far as I can tell the Disneyland ones don't The Disneyland ones are pleasant Mostly although Strunken Ned refers to Diseland ones don't the disneyland ones are uh pleasant mostly although strunken ned refers to uh you know diseases that don't exist and cures that wouldn't fix them um right so they have to be positive do we know like it is any i mean i'm sure this is not well documented but it would be interesting because i would imagine when does when is the oldest one when is the first is that there from day one esmeralda some version of that was

Starting point is 00:40:06 there in day one like those probably she at that point she probably gave out warnings about knives like that then they didn't care as much probably i found an old esmeralda um it's not terribly this is from the 60s. Well, let's see. Worry over danger for a loved one has been your lot. This will pass. Okay, so that's actually a nice thing. I think the reason I pulled it was saying, you may have some marital trouble,

Starting point is 00:40:35 but a true friend will help straighten it out. Oh, no, that sounds like someone is going to die. Or get beat up. I don't know. Straighten it out. Yeah, straighten it out doesn't necessarily mean that the marital trouble is over and the marriage continues. That could mean, well, the marriage is not your problem anymore. Right, because your friend is going to throw your wife off a cliff or something crazy. Who knows what that's getting at a lot of them imply

Starting point is 00:41:08 there there is like marital stuff in a lot of these cards from what i could tell and i did see some story um was this also an esmeralda the uh maybe it was a net i don't know one of the machines uh told a couple said something about uh you like that you will find a new love. You've experienced marital trouble, but you'll find a new love. This is given to a husband and wife. We're like, no thanks. I think we're good. That is a perfect illustration of what I was saying, where that's not flying in a Disney park in this day and age. No, that was recent, I think. I think that's in the last decade. oh wow i'm shocked don't quote me on that i remember that's funny that's funny as hell i think that's great yeah that is great that's like not something bob chick comes across bob jpeg's desk

Starting point is 00:41:58 really that's what that is then because if like that was presented to the higher-ups like you know what cards were giving out they would definitely be like oh that's no it's just got to be they have to be turned into ads for our new movies like that's what it would be going forward so that's just probably snuck by because it's such a low these are such low-key things that people like you may you may experience a fun and enlivening time when you stream Soul on Disney Plus this weekend. The Mighty Ducks are back. An old friend may return. The initials are GB Gordon Bombay perhaps. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:42:42 We really shouldn't put this out there because it's gonna happen i think what appeals one of the appeals to me uh about these things it's like especially when i first started going to disneyland i realized like how much off the beaten track stuff there was like stuff not on the map or stuff that everyone doesn't tell you that so finding like a fortune telling machine where you get it spits out the card that you get to keep or, um, finding like a little room where you can queue off an effect or something. You know,

Starting point is 00:43:12 what's a weird one of these is the, um, there's that, um, is anybody ever done in the, it's in a frontier land shop. It's kind of on the other side of where shrunken Ned would be. Uh,

Starting point is 00:43:23 they're like way in the back of the store there's some weird like kind of glockenspiel machine you put a quarter into and then it does a big like clangy one-man band kind of song i would never i i don't know the actual name of the instrument but does this sound familiar at all the weird like frontierland old-time uh the clap traption that plays your song 100 i've done that yeah i think i've done that um that's neat i want i want way more of this kind of thing in the park it's like like there is do you guys know about the um the the singing lesson on main street no no so if you go down main street and go off one of the one of the little sort of side roads that doesn't doesn't go very far uh if you go one of the windows says

Starting point is 00:44:14 singing lessons and if you go to it and listen you can hear they have a speaker playing the whole time like somebody giving a singing lesson in in in inside the little singing lesson store and i i feel like that kind like they should have stuff like that going all the time like what is stopping them from putting a little speaker in different places and having little like things that you can stop by and listen to you know what i mean yeah they have i'm trying to think of other versions they have like the phone at the market house the phone box yeah oh yeah yes and there's like is there a telegraph running in there too like a telegraph machine yeah i mean this stuff is all so fun and also is so for annual

Starting point is 00:44:58 pass holders who just want to wander and it's like just give us more stuff to i guess i guess it's like anything when you get way into something and you want like we want like little things only we know about right is it is that kind of what isn't if i'm psychologically analyzing us that you're so you can take a new person and and show like you know not this not everybody might know this one and either they think that's cool or that you're a major dweeb yeah i mean i guess it really obviously it fills it out it fills it out in such a fun rich way and i also think like you even if you don't notice it you note it like you with details wise you even if you don't notice it you notice it if you're hanging out in an area and they have a bunch of like kind of soundscape

Starting point is 00:45:45 kind of things that is actually making it better and you might not even be aware of why well let me say that you know for a new thing in the park uh for a big ambitious new thing galaxy's edge is full of this kind of thing little like soundscape designs here's this little show i haven't done a ton of the app interactivity and i feel like people were disappointed by that maybe on the whole but there there still is a lot to do in that regard like for you'd think that they would like and then there's you know obviously like a lot of things they cut with galaxy's edge but like that kind of thing they're i don't know i i do like that they they didn't ignore that and that something being built

Starting point is 00:46:25 from the ground up in 2019 was so detail-oriented the radio station in the bathroom yes it's really neat i mean there's so much stuff in there like there's so much on that loop i feel like that i haven't even heard yeah yeah the the experiences were like i i know um especially if you go to galaxy's edge with little kids where like if find Rey, where she's wandering around and, like, convinces people to, like, yeah, follow me, sneak through things and trick stormtroopers. Like, those little things fill stuff out. Well, that stuff, that's the best stuff. I mean, that's the best stuff in the, I mean, I don't know, that sounds like I'm putting the land design or anything else down. But that's, yeah, that stuff is little secret things.

Starting point is 00:47:07 Like, did you know if you, like, bring your child, Ray will hang out with them and go on a mission with them? Yeah. That's, they don't put that on the, I mean, they say look out for Ray, I'm sure, on the app. But they don't say, like, Ray will crouch and pretend you're hiding from Kylo Ren, which is awesome. I think I got mad-dog by chewy like chewy mad dogged me well then i was like i'm sorry chewy and then like you kept going the greatest thing dude were you with me jason were we together when i was getting a ronto wrap at like the end of the night chewy runs up to the counter smacks his like paws on the desk and then a guy goes, hey Chewie, can I have a picture? And he goes, and he runs away.

Starting point is 00:47:48 I was like, that is awesome. Chewie just told this adult no for a photo. You may have just run into a cast member who was having a bad day. Hey, we had the Chewie suit on and it worked for me. They used it. Method.

Starting point is 00:48:04 Little stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you guys, like, activated the ships and stuff in Galaxy's Edge? In Galaxy's Edge? Yes. Yeah, through the app, if you do, like, little puzzles and stuff, you can make the ships turn on, which I think is actually really cool. Yeah, and then there's also also like um i'm trying to think i was in that like uh opening day crush a couple times last year you know where like they hold you

Starting point is 00:48:34 at the line and you wait and there's those like transmitters on the poles too you can like turn on and like make them like short out and stuff oh and that's all very fun and especially if i was a if i was a kid because that's all as a kid you would have you wouldn't have an app but like there would be interactivity and things and i feel like they would kind of fall short but if i was a kid and i could hit the button and like a big thing would like light up that would blow my mind yeah yeah i think my criticism was oh sorry i i've tried to do this stuff at uh galaxy's edge and i tried to download the play disney parks app uh when i was in park on the wi-fi and it was oh it's over 600 megabytes this is not this is not happening on disney wi-fi so uh i think it i I think people have complained.

Starting point is 00:49:26 Local storage and then data usage with the app, where it was crashing a lot when they first launched it. So yeah, it was definitely a thing on my mental to-do list of like, oh, fiddle around with this more at the park. I think the only complaints people were having was the way they hyped it up beforehand only complaints people were having was the way they hyped it up beforehand and then the stuff that was cut it made it sound like it was going to be just full immersive everywhere every clerk spoke uh batu or whatever the language is uh yes

Starting point is 00:50:00 and like and you know of course you would be people would be constantly coming up to you talking about your millennium Falcon performance. And it's like, that didn't really, they didn't really do that. Yeah. And I think that's, but the, I mean, the, but if you didn't have that expectation and you just played with the stuff on the app, you'd go, oh, that's cool. That's very cool. I like doing that.

Starting point is 00:50:17 So you want, how would you feel if you were in the, in Oga's Cantina and you walked in and then Rex cut the music and told everybody to be quiet and pointed you out like this guy is the guy who crashed the dang Falcon. Yeah, that would be awesome. That would be so good.

Starting point is 00:50:40 Yeah, and anything like you bought a milk or something, like you bought a milk in your app register. I mean, this is all scary because your app is just tracking you, but it's also awesome because a robot could call you out for what you just bought or something, like anything like that. We want the robots to roast us.

Starting point is 00:51:00 That's the height of all this. Well, Potato Head does a version of it at Toy Story Midway Mania. But yes, more robots roasting. Rex could just list the last four digits of your credit card number as you come in too. Zero, nine, four,

Starting point is 00:51:20 one. I know. Security code. Vehicle identification number three, x one like all of we want as much of that as possible yeah chewy just came up to me and told me i had bad credit chewy did hug me once like the crowd parted and Chewie was there and he reached out and gave me a big hug. So that was nice. Yeah, that's great. In addition to his threatening mad-dogging. It plays hard to get.

Starting point is 00:51:53 I was going to ask Avery, some of us talking about the fortune-teller machines, this is the app interactivity. Are you interested in this in general? Was that your in for this stuff that we're talking about? Are there other things on this app that we may not be aware of? I mean, I have spent... I at one point spent an entire day just in Galaxy's Edge just messing around with the app.

Starting point is 00:52:20 Wow. And it's not... The app is not great, but it is kind of fun to collect those little badges and things like i i think maybe part of this is that i as a child was not allowed to play video games i never had any video games and even now i don't i don't really do it uh and so even that just the the hint of something that's kind of a video game it gets it gets that uh it gets the the uh dopamine or whatever it is firing right yeah yeah yeah it's fun to collect those little badges yes you are a tinkerer naturally though you you've done a lot you've made a lot of videos with like practical effects stuff

Starting point is 00:52:58 yeah i like i like messing around with stuff i mean i think here's the thing i think that disneyland is this is this cool constructed world right it's like this constructed fantasy world and when you're a kid and you go there it's like every there's like a there's magic and and new things to find around every corner right and i think with a lot of this i'm i want to capture some of that back like i want i want that that feeling of maybe if i maybe if i like i'm walking around here something is hidden you know and i think sometimes with the app at its best when you can do when the wi-fi is good enough you can get a little bit of that, right? Because like Fortune Red, you would not be able to find it. But like most people, it's hidden down an alleyway.

Starting point is 00:53:51 It's actually in a very inopportune place. You have to sort of like, it's down an alley where people are often doing a meet and greet with Jack Skellington. And so there's like, you kind of have to like stand there and cut kids in line to go. It looks like you're cutting off kids who are going to go talk to Jack Skellington, but then you just go

Starting point is 00:54:13 and do this little fortune teller. But I guess I just want more, more little things like that, you know? Yeah, yeah. I mean, the discovery, I think that's, I'm sure probably we all have that that this is the annual pat luckily i uh i think people have heard this news supposedly when the

Starting point is 00:54:31 park opens back up there will be some kind of annual pass program again so sure we won't have to pay it's 150 each time we go um but i think this is yeah what you're saying is like having the privilege of living out here and having an annual pass is what you're talking about. Because it's like you start to go, you start to figure out all the little hidden stuff and it makes the place feel so much cooler. And then you're kind of almost on a hunt for it. It's like when I didn't even go to the Steakhouse 55 bar until I was out here for like six or seven years. And you get to that little bar and you're're like this is a nice little hotel bar and it's like that's not as cool as like a fortune teller machine but there is like i don't know i might argue with you there

Starting point is 00:55:14 but all right fair enough uh uh but even like weird stuff yeah in the disneyland hotel they have the utopia car in there and it's like stuff out of the way like you go it like makes it does feel like you're exploring this like thing that almost feels like it's in has unlimited hidden things yeah well and i i think the nice thing it's because it's so big um if you if you pack a lot of these hidden things like let's say you have family visiting for a weekend or stuff and and you're only there for a day, maybe two, but if there's enough hidden things, and they stumble across one or two things, like, that produces delight.

Starting point is 00:55:54 Like, that's, I think, the big thing that we're always, like, trying to get back to is in these parks. It's, like, finding little moments of delight, especially if you... I try not to be cynical about these places you know i do enjoy these places but like every now and then they fall short of expectations but like little things like this where you you are reminded of the attention to

Starting point is 00:56:15 detail really make them sing part of what i think is so interesting about these parks is that they they operate it it's it's like two very different things it's on one hand it's like this disgusting commercialism right it's like very clearly just trying to make your money and take your money away from you you know and then on the other hand it's it's like art and idealism and and like hope and trying to find whimsy and magic uh in places where you wouldn't expect it right because if if there are like hidden things down alleys in disneyland maybe there are hidden things down alleys in the rest of the world right and i think that's that's kind of what you're trying to capture uh yeah yeah like a magic magic is everywhere it is interesting you're

Starting point is 00:57:07 saying that because yeah obviously everything is just money as much money as possible is this funny because i think if almost if disney if they say like walt disney didn't start theme parks but disney existed and they started them right now they wouldn't have magic in them. They might have very cool, expensive rides, and it might be very fun to go. But I feel like because of the precedent that was set early on of detail, now all the Imagineers who were raised on all of this detail push for it, and we still get an extra little fortune teller machine here and there or narratives and i think if it was just created in the last 10 years it would just be big movie rides and i wouldn't look like a six flags but it wouldn't be nearly as like it wouldn't have nearly as many hidden things and like as much

Starting point is 00:57:58 detail and stuff yeah but that's i think i think like i i think that's right and i i think the little things i mean sometimes you can with these fortune telling machines for example you can dig back in the past and like oh well you don't see these every maybe you still see these sorts of machines are still um you know common at boardwalks and and fairs and carnivals and that sort of thing but like they still produce delight there's still plenty of videos on youtube of of people going to these machines and doing them and reading the cards and all uh uh i think the first the first one i could find was like back in the 1900s. There's a video on YouTube of a channel called Great Big Story. They interview Olaf Stanton, the head of Characters Unlimited.

Starting point is 00:58:56 They build every Zoltar machine by hand in Boulder City, Nevada. Wow. You can still order these things, and they make them by hand. And one thing they pointed out is Olaf cast his own teeth for the Zoltar. That is the owner's teeth on each creature. Each Zoltar has Olaf's teeth.

Starting point is 00:59:21 Each Zoltar, yes. I don't know if Zoltar is copyrighted, though, because I found another company selling Zoltar yes I don't know if Zoltar is copyrighted though because I found another company selling Zoltar machines what is all did it was an interview with him what did his voice sound like this or anything it doesn't sound like that he's just a guy like he's

Starting point is 00:59:38 just like a nice normal guy and they write they did they make the cards they make the fortune telling uh cards they make the um the fortune telling cards too he was like boxing up like tons of packs of cards it's it's like really the fortune teller machine for me it's like it's everything we like about a themed entertainment it's a robot there's an interactive element to to it. There's an intimacy with it. The fortune teller doesn't say they're proud of me,

Starting point is 01:00:07 but it's something. It's something in the way where they're addressing me. They are saying something to me. Intimacy is weird. You fall into these turns of phrase. I know what you mean. Every other episode. Intimacy?

Starting point is 01:00:20 I want to have intimacy with Zoltar and with Fortune Red. I said that Olaf seduces me on the frozen ride olaf seduces me and i want to have intimacy with him and with olaf whether it's olaf the snowman or olaf with the teeth look i am not i am not saying after europe i stopped being sexual in any way again so i'm just using intimacy and sex and uh sexual and seductive non-sexually this is an intimate art form podcasting is an intimate art form audio why do you need to say that though all right you're a purveyor of intimate goods scott garrison god we are purveying intimate goods scott deal with it all right leave the word boy out of there.

Starting point is 01:01:10 Don't say, I'm an intimate good purveyor boy. That weird shit people do. I'm a little intimate purveyor boy. Hey, you said it, not us. God damn it. I said the clean phrase. We tricked you with dark arts into saying it all right let's bring it back let's bring back on topic so avery you're a little

Starting point is 01:01:31 fortune collecting boy uh yeah i'm so do that to our guests that's very rude no i've always considered myself sort of an intimate little boy oh yeah yeah i need a break um no i think there is something about that when you go on rides you see animatronics that are in their own world but these are animatronics that are like in your world do you know what i mean and there's something there's something that's that feels intimate about it. Yes. They're right there. It exists on a boardwalk, which is not themed.

Starting point is 01:02:10 It's a little theme, but it's not themed like Disney. You're in your, as you're saying, real world. It's kind of like, especially when you're a kid, is this thing real? It's kind of real. And now it's going to tell me something bad about my life. That's intimate. Somebody says something bad about my life that's intimate somebody says something bad about your life like now there's an intimacy there yeah so non-sexual non-sexual okay all right as long as you put that next to intimacy um let's talk about one

Starting point is 01:02:39 of these other machines do we do we have an order we want to go in we got two to go esmeralda yeah i esmeralda is you know this is kind of another sort of like yeah i don't know this is a weird line because it's like in the 50s and 60s it's like well we need some mysticism I guess let's put a Romani in there like let's just get that in there yeah that'll solve this sure that's uh I'm actually I'm actually surprised they haven't changed the name

Starting point is 01:03:16 because it's the same name as uh Hunchback of Notre Dame character hmm that's a good point yeah I I googled esmeralda fortune teller and there's like a lot of different companies that are all making different esmeralda fortune teller so i wonder if that was at some point a character in some sort of media like is it is it all referencing media i mean do you think that other people are referencing the disney

Starting point is 01:03:45 one or do you think that the disney one and other ones are also referencing something else that we don't know about is the name all referencing maybe ultimately oh maybe like yeah we're like a generic you know missed it's kind of like um in in in there that There's that story in the Devil in the White City book about we need a song for someone to dance to, and the pianist is just covered in flop sweat and just kind of plunked out. And that's where that came from. da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da americans they'll think it's mystical yeah i it's probably i mean somebody probably knows the exact history and we're sounding like idiots but it it probably seems like well it's a like a romanian

Starting point is 01:04:50 name and they uh they know fortunes i assume it comes from some sort of like very lazy lazy uh seems like we all hate esmereld that's what the uh seems like uh a lot of despising going on what from us you mean yeah oh everybody hates this machine no i don't hate her at all i'm just saying it's possibly comes from some sort of like lazy white people that's all i'm saying yeah yeah i also think that she's like the least she's maybe the least original at least specific to disneyland do you know what i mean like like the well sure sure pirate one is outside pirates of the caribbean fort fortune or uh uh shrunken ned is in adventure land this is kind of you've seen this before you know well it's like

Starting point is 01:05:39 throwback probably to something young walt saw or something. Right. Because it's in the, we're talking about the thing in the Penny Arcade on Main Street. Right. Yeah. So it's, along with, you know, like, I mean, there's a couple, there's a little family of weird mannequins and stuff on Main Street. I guess it's a throwback to mannequins that he either liked or creeped him out as a kid. There's a lot. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:06:04 There's still a lot of like little stuff that feel doesn't feel like it's so disney like if in the penny arcade there is the that pinocchio machine where you put like a quarter and he dances like so that's they have more like new disney stuff in there but there are still some pieces on main street like this that are a little more generic, just like old turn-of-the-century maybe. Well, yeah, I found one of these. I was like, well, this doesn't count as one of the fortune tellers, but it's adjacent, I would say.

Starting point is 01:06:35 I don't think I've ever seen this guy. He's an Uncle Sam, and he has a big... Well, no, you don't step on him. It's some sort of like strength tester. He's got like a dial in his chest. And the thing that his chest dial says is a little unsettling to me. Hello, strong man, squeeze my hand. Sounds right, sounds good to me.

Starting point is 01:07:04 Wait, where is this that's in the penny arcade apparently and he's jutting his hand out and it's a little I think it's a little like low you can see where he's plugged in this doesn't feel super Disney-ish does it but it's there apparently you're saying like his hand is like a crotch level

Starting point is 01:07:20 that's what I was going to say yeah yeah yeah if you walked up to this yeah he would be shaking you in the groin Uncle sam will jerk you off for a quarter that's what you're saying still looking for magic in disneyland yes now that is intimacy that is a sexual intimacy there now this is yes i'm comfortable waving hello strong man squeeze my hand or put something else in there i don't know put something in my hand for and put the quarter in is there a quarter is there even a component to a quarter yeah there has to be he does it for free he just uh whoa he does yeah yeah sam's just uh wow for the love of the game i guess he's finally embraced the welfare state yeah that was

Starting point is 01:08:07 that's another i mean this is all pre-disneyland so this goes back to carnivals and yeah penny arcades mechanical turk like this is all the stuff that robots giving you hand jobs yeah that's old before disneyland that's old yeah tunnel that's what all of steampunk is heading for. That's what the more gears we put on stuff and hats and guns, eventually we'll end up with a steam-powered robot that turns you up. Well, back in the turn of the century, you thought that it was a robot giving you a handjob, but then you open up the box and there's actually a man inside the box

Starting point is 01:08:42 pulling little ropes and things. and he's that magician's twin the twin is picking your pocket like you are so mad at the reveal that's how many levels um so yeah um esmeralda uh uh, you know, gives you cards. She has a, she has a deck of cards and they change those out and put different, like, Disney designs on them. I'm looking at a deck with, you know, Tinkerbell and a Small World, uh, Hawaiian Girl and the Abominable Snowman from, uh, Matterhorn. And, um, so that's a, that's a little detail I never noticed. Again, the cards are interesting and odd and specific. I'm looking at one

Starting point is 01:09:32 that warns you about beware of a man who has dark hair and wears a good deal of jewelry. He is a false friend. This is something Esmeralda. Wow. Does anyone have anyone in their lives or is there someone prominent in the world who fits that description dark hair and wears a good

Starting point is 01:09:49 deal of jewelry and he's a good deal of jewelry that's a good question uh i mean ring ringo oh no well the darkness of his hair is false we know that that. That's true. I think he still wears some rings. He's been singing them. Mr. T? Possibly Mr. T? Oh, yeah. Mr. T, a lot of jewelry. Yeah, that's true. Hmm.

Starting point is 01:10:12 Good question. We'd have to think about this more. Jeez, yeah. That does seem like, I don't know why, that does seem like a warning

Starting point is 01:10:19 like an old person would give you and go like, I don't, you can't say that anymore i i'm not quite sure what you are implying but i'm sure it's not great like yes i see i get what i get where you're going with that it is like it's still and it's just like i i know that you're mad at an entity that country has not existed for 200 years.

Starting point is 01:10:46 I, we don't have to worry. Grandpa, why do you grandma is Merelda? Don't worry about that stuff. Um, yeah, actually,

Starting point is 01:10:57 as you bring, maybe it's a good point time to bring up, uh, cause I got curious if Esmeralda exists in other parks and what was my answer i think it i think it was in the magic kingdom and disney world and is not anymore and i couldn't find an equivalent in disneyland paris um but there uh is a in tokyo there continues to be a a different uh fortune telling machine and you talk about non-disney this is uh this is very odd um like why that why is this in tokyo disneyland grandmother's predictions um there's

Starting point is 01:11:36 an old lady and kind of a brooch um and it says what does grandma say your answer is here um i mean one thought is just like so there's something i mean esmeralda's in a box too but why is our grandma in a box that that's unsettling to me i don't want and there's something like personal about intimate you might say about saying grandma it's like your grandma why is my grandma in a box um and then i got curious so you see an uncle sam back there too sticking his hand out so he's in tokyo too you're not left out if you're in tokyo um and i was like well what yeah what does grandma say what is grandma's answer and one of the cards that grandma gives you is that a devil might come and poke you with an arrow in the night. There's a little cartoon of a devil poking a very heavily flop-sweating,

Starting point is 01:12:32 sleeping man who's extremely distraught. You talk about bizarre details. I had no idea you could go to Tokyo Disneyland and get this weird devil card. The devil and his pitchfork are gadding about. The devil will get you if you don't watch out. It's like really pointing in there. This looks like it hurts. He places temptations in your way.

Starting point is 01:12:53 Be strong, be firm, and you won't stray. I mean, what is he talking about? Having an affair? A lot of these are about affairs, seemingly. So yeah, maybe. Or I guess stray is the one that leads me to think this is about an affair i mean like could you apply like going down a bad path with drugs for straying i guess this is what um your straight life um mike pence went to tokyo

Starting point is 01:13:18 disneyland years ago and got this car and that's why he won't be in an elevator with a woman yeah yeah he can't handle it because he remembers that the devil will poke him in the middle of the night it's placing temptation in my way he's my is your mike a pence impression the same as your uh aladar impression from dinosaur stand together i can't be in the same room with a lady dinosaur. But it's also a little further than it's Don Pardo. Oh, yeah. With Grandma. The devil.

Starting point is 01:13:54 And your host, the devil. With musical guest, a man with lots of jewelry. This fortune, though. When they let fortune teller cards book that one episode of SNL. This fortune, you can't get anywhere else, you know? You can't get it in the other souvenir shops in Tokyo Disney. It's exclusive to the machine. Yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:14:21 I'm really feeling bad that I hadn't seen Grandma. I missed, I mean, Scott was there and you missed grandma too no I didn't see grandma and you know I do feel sad about that so it would be nice to get more grandma style in our lives Mike could you

Starting point is 01:14:39 give a grandma style prediction a fortune for um Jason let's say okay for Jason uh I will say uh watch out for the devil lurks

Starting point is 01:14:55 in the fridge well that one I already knew about because you know if you if you dance with the devil in the fridge uh too much devil ends up right on your because you know if you if you if you dance with the devil in the fridge uh too much devil ends up right on your hips you know hey can i can i say something real quick so what uh oh jason and i used to be on a sketch team together at ucb and uh i think that when you guys first started the podcast we were we were on the team were we on the team together and i i like yeah shortly thereafter yeah and um i remember at the time i remember that you wrote

Starting point is 01:15:33 a like at least a couple sketches about either theme parks or snacks uh no you don't say i don't believe it and then hearing the podcast like it it it it came together to really form a picture of a man do you know what i mean like i started to get i started to get hints of it at the time and then through listening to this podcast i really got the full picture yeah and it's funny that you uh bring that up because uh the one time i have been to the museum me uh you avery and i were at sf sketch fest with that sketch group and uh i uh had some sort of snack that gave me food poisoning so i spent much of one of the few days i was in san francisco uh wandering fisherman's wharf uh just trying to get some fresh air and one of the ways I tried to cheer myself up was in the museum

Starting point is 01:16:28 at Canique was it a banana? did that banana hurt your tum tum too early in the morning? oh yeah was it a banana in the morning without anything else? I I think it was eating fried

Starting point is 01:16:43 rice with crispy crispy pig skin at one in the morning. It is probably the thing. It sounds right. Yes. I have an addendum to that fortune. There's also a knife in one of the. Okay. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:17:01 Because if you cut a pie, if you have a pie and you've been cutting up sometimes you just put the pie with the knife back you bake the knife accidentally into the pie well that's if you have a friend you need to help out of a jam you know yeah like ma when ma beagle sends a knife to her sons the beagle boys in prison yeah uh okay uh what esmeralda who's oh should we go to the next yeah so ultimately i guess ultimately like esmeralda is is not my favorite of the of the fortune tellers but i am glad that she's there on main street because it's like main street otherwise is kind of just a lot of shops you know it's nice it's nice there is something there that is not just a shop. Even the Penny Arcade now, I think, is mostly not a Penny Arcade,

Starting point is 01:17:48 besides the weird Uncle Sam. So, yeah, that's kind of the main way it's representing. That and those little movies that you watch for a nickel, which we will obviously cover individually, one by one, each old-timey movie. Those Wright brothers are something you know but fortune red the pirate i mean that's what really jumped out and that seems like the the biggest like element of the interactivity and everything um yeah what do we know about this guy

Starting point is 01:18:19 well i it's up this is there's this little corner over in new orleans square that i don't they've sort of expanded i think a little bit in the last so many years but i i was a place i feel like i almost realized existed i don't know like three years ago like there's a haunted mansion gift shop located here and then there's pirates kind of gift shop and they're both not in the traditional place of like immediately after coming off of those rides. They're just sort of tucked away in this little corner of New Orleans Square. And this is in a similar spot

Starting point is 01:18:53 and it feels like a little hidden spot to me. Yeah, they keep cutting off pieces of it. This is right back near where you used to go to the Court of Angels, which was just like a very nice pleasant themed courtyard that they eventually um redid and made it still exists it's like the entry courtyard to club 33 now um and that there was an outcry about that at the time people are are not happy about that, because I think a lot of people had taken pictures back there, or be it engagement pictures, or pictures of families over the years.

Starting point is 01:19:31 And I think people, that was another secret little thing, like these fortune tellers, which is like, oh, you go back, go to the end of this alleyway, and there is a charming little New Orleans courtyard. It's got some quiet music playing, that sort of thing. Let's take it back. Let's storm it it we're storming the court of angels there were a lot of good people going there they were just protesting not everybody there storming that courtyard have weapons to storm it yeah they just want to go in and take a picture that's it i mean let's get on Telegram and organize

Starting point is 01:20:05 and go from there. We do have to set up our presences on all of the weird news. Jason had just finished our Parler account and then they took it off the app store. I'm sorry. We'll try. If it goes

Starting point is 01:20:22 back up, we'll be there. It was finally a place to say what we really think. Yeah, so we'll try. If it goes back up, we'll be there. It was finally a place to say what we really think. Yeah, finally. Your parlor account is the third gate, right? Yes. Well, like Disney MGM Studios, we heard another theme park account was doing a third gate, and we real quickly scrambled and found out the basics

Starting point is 01:20:42 of what they were going to do, and we're like, we'll do a basics of what uh they were gonna do and we're like uh we'll do a movie studio part two we'll do a parlor account too um so we'll see demolished on that yeah um but they added i guess what i'm saying court of angels gone we got to go experience it once at club 33 which was obviously very cool but not something I expect us to do a ton in our lifetime. But I feel like they've made little magic moment places here in the way they've set this

Starting point is 01:21:13 stuff up. And now they added this little piece of fun, fortune teller fun. Well, what's this, what do you do with the app? What does Fortune Red do for you if you have the Play Disney app fired up? Yeah, so if it's working, sometimes it doesn't work. But if it's working, you can go to a little section in the app that says Fortune Red,

Starting point is 01:21:38 and you say, like, I'm here. And then the thing lights up and does its little like back and forth animatronic thing and then spits out uh one piece of a story and and apparently there's like oh yeah there you go uh and there's like 10 cards in each story i think and there's three stories and as far as i can tell like the stories aren't particularly interesting uh that's not what i'm into do you know what i mean like i yeah i am a completist but i but i don't particularly care about what i'm getting from it uh i just want them i want to have them you know yeah yeah yeah i believe nothing is too rewarding for you having like you have them, you know? Yeah. Nothing has been too rewarding for you.

Starting point is 01:22:26 You have them in front of you, and you're not looking at some pearl of wisdom or quote that's changed your life. Right. I feel like you guys can relate to the feeling of just wanting to possess things. What? Avery, what are you talking

Starting point is 01:22:42 about? What? Yeah, I mean are you talking about? Yeah. What? Yeah, I mean, I've got some... Oh, wow. Some little Vinylmations here, too. Yes, those are the Mickey-shaped ones. I have the Park Stars, which are not in the Mickey shape.

Starting point is 01:22:58 No, the Park Stars are better. The Park Stars, yes, I always liked better because of that. They've stopped making both, I believe, at this point. Yeah, I think that's true. Are any of these fortune tellers a Park Star? Oh, I think that they did. I think that there's at least an Esmeralda.

Starting point is 01:23:15 Is there? I think so. Let me look. See if you can pull that up. But is it the Esmeralda from Hunchback? Oh, maybe. Because i know they did movie versions yeah i don't see a park star for the fortune teller um i see yeah i see hunchback of yeah vinylmations i don't know it is avery like you said you you might be one of the very few people

Starting point is 01:23:42 committed to this sort of thing because when i looked at the youtube videos about and typed in like esmeralda main street disneyland fortune red disneyland there were certainly videos of people going and getting the fortunes but there was no like usually there's a 20 minute explainer where people like walk you through the story it's like okay here's how you do this here's how you and and most of the blogs that cover this stuff did have like in 2018 hey go to esmeralda or fortune red with the parks uh the play disney parks app and this is what you can do but there has not been a lot of like follow-up about it or like uh accounting of it yeah i think that this there's they've tried the different um what was the interactive thing they were doing in frontier land you know what i'm talking about yes the game i feel like they've tried this stuff and it hasn't maybe taken off

Starting point is 01:24:38 in a way but i it's cool in concept and i'm a little upset with myself for not knowing more about this and not experimenting more with Fortune Red and the app. So I don't know if it just needs to get out there. Maybe this podcast is doing some sort of a service. Because I said definitely when I go next, I am going to do a little of this. I'm definitely going to scope that out. How upset at yourself are you let's see okay uh on a one ten ten being the most upset uh two two okay all right if it was more than two i would have been like i think you gotta you gotta cut yourself a break okay fair enough you know what i i am too

Starting point is 01:25:22 hard on myself you're right yeah. Yeah. I appreciate that. But thank you for sharing intimate details of your thought process and feelings. Well, look, I am the most intimate member of the Podcast to Ride trio. Okay, well, I guess. Non-sexually. Scott has left the Zoom. the zoom you know uh that that reminded me of a of a of a story from like the first time that i went to disney world uh as as a little kid we went to the the morocco restaurant at epcot and there is a there's a belly dancer there and I remember being like so

Starting point is 01:26:10 freaked out by any kind of display of sexuality that I hid under the table and cried and then my family made fun of me for 30 years they just never let it go of me for 30 years. They just never let it go.

Starting point is 01:26:30 I hear that. I can relate to that. I was just trying to be a good little boy. Yeah, yeah, of course. And it's stories like that I knew you would be a perfect guest for this podcast. And I should mention to Avery you are notable in podcast ride history as you are our first itunes review oh is that true so thank you for that hey happy to do it yeah um

Starting point is 01:26:53 beware dark fates await those who listen to this podcast now that was the review i didn't say anything about the contents of it like uh like a hex he was doing let me praise let me praise fortune red real quick they made fortune red look like an old jacked up animatronic pirate they didn't make sometimes my criticism is they make some of the new

Starting point is 01:27:17 animatronics look a little too nice and new I think red looks fine but she maybe doesn't look like jacked up like some of the other and i know that she's not as well like weathered as the other characters but i'm glad that he looks like they pulled a 60s animatronic out and shoved him in a machine i think that's cool yeah yeah fortune red looks like his face is about to fall apart yes that's the and that's what i like about it it looks like it's made of like dirt and it's gonna fall apart yes and what he does is his he's got a pointed finger and he just points back and

Starting point is 01:27:51 forth between a map and a skull and yo-ho they're like a jaunty version of yo-ho uh plays uh yo-ho pirates life for me plays and then then he points as if to say death is lies upon this map and then he spits you out a fortune, which are kind of indecipherable because they're so written in pirate and like seafaring slang.

Starting point is 01:28:19 So yeah, I appreciate that. I don't know, I actually don't know, is it, maybe they just grabbed an old pirate. They have all these old pirates lying around in Imagineering. They just shoved an old one in here and... Also, you just alluded to something. This is confusing also. We should...

Starting point is 01:28:34 Fortune Red is not Red the pirate. Fortune Red is not Red. Fortune Red the pirate is not Red the pirate. Red is two Ds, correct? Red the pirate? Oh, is it? I don't know. Which is not Red the Pirate. Red is two Ds, correct? Red the Pirate? Oh, is it? I don't know. Which is not Red Rocket from Red Rocket's Pizza Port,

Starting point is 01:28:49 the old name of the not good restaurant, I'll declare. Yeah. Red is two Ds for the new Pirate Red on Pirates of the Caribbean. The female character, that is two... I don't think I knew that. Like Chris Red, a relative of SNL cast member Chris Red Red the pirate is not Chris Red and is

Starting point is 01:29:10 not not fortune red fortune red nothing to do with Red Rocket pizza nothing to do with simply red the 80s band simply red not the wrestler amazing red has nothing to do with amazing red these are all different things to do with Simply Red, not the wrestler Amazing Red. It has nothing to do with Amazing Red.

Starting point is 01:29:25 These are all different things. Yeah, I'm looking at Red. And Red, my only criticism is that Red looks too nice. The pirate Red, the new animatronic. Well, I think I liked the addition of Red.

Starting point is 01:29:41 It is very smooth. It's very clearly a newer generation animatronic, but I think the issue with Red and Rosita is the audio needs to be worse. The fidelity is too clear. It needs to be

Starting point is 01:29:58 a little hissier, and the dialogue needs to be a little more anachronistic, not in content, in like stilted delivery well there's a there's a lot of enunciation which is why you want people to hear it but that wasn't the case in the old days of recording these voices where i was like like you can barely understand what these pirates are saying and there's some charm to that so yeah when you see a new animatronic especially one in the context of an old ride with old audio recordings,

Starting point is 01:30:26 it really sticks out that like, she's like, we want the rum. And then everyone else is like, ah, right, right, right. Like it's just so much different. Yeah. You should have gotten, yeah, like an old character actress

Starting point is 01:30:40 who's drunk to do the lines. And then like, yeah, mess up the the audio then use it just like an old 60s reel-to-reel recorder and use that tape yes to make it fully match because you can't throw like a lacy hard drive down the stairs to like add like you know uh you add stuff to the audio track in the way that like you could physically beat up um analog media to to get a certain effect yeah um so yeah they they uh fortune red again melting face janky like like you want it to be um you don't want anything too good is is the truth right you wanted everything to be a little bit bad yeah you wanted to work consistently right mostly consistently i'm trying to think yeah i guess you know in tomorrowland i think you would

Starting point is 01:31:33 maybe want i think depending on the yeah what the land is you would want the animatronics to be like new pristine feeling but every other land where it feels like it's a long time ago including galaxy's edge you would want all the robots to be a little janky at least just from looks not maybe their movement necessarily but you would want them to all feel haunted like there was a person that got trapped in the robot and they were melting and that was their fate for the rest of time um so yeah fortune red is stuck throughout the rest of time he was a human man yeah is stuck throughout the rest of time. He was a human man, and now he has to live in this box. Grandma really is in

Starting point is 01:32:10 that box. Yes! Grandma can't get out of the box. She was bad in her real life, and then she was cursed by the devil to live in a box in Tokyo Disneyland. All the fortune tellers were recipients of bad fortunes

Starting point is 01:32:25 that laid out the curse. A box will be your eternal home. And they thought it was a coffin, but they didn't read it right. They didn't understand. She looks a little like the grandmother in Carousel of Progress, which someone pointed out is like the same

Starting point is 01:32:42 grandmother animatronic that is in the Haunted Mansion somewhere. Yeah, it's a ghost in a rocking chair yeah yeah yeah yeah that's a fun creepy detail um so every you so there's all right so you've done this experience you've kind of you've collected them all at least for one of the stories and do you feel like would you recommend this to other people or is this just like well it satisfied my specific fascinations I think everybody should I think it's a fun thing that you can show people when you bring them to the park I think it's a cool thing

Starting point is 01:33:18 that not everybody knows about and you get a little keepsake at the end of it and I mean the fact that they made it so it's free is so great. Yeah, that's the, you know what? We got a change shortage now. It's tough to find. I haven't used change anywhere in a while. So yeah, we're all going to be lacking in quarters, I think.

Starting point is 01:33:40 And maybe you need them for laundry or something. So now they figured out a way where for just the probably now more expensive price of going to Disneyland and download and just download the app and now you don't have to sling that change around here's I think what I really want because

Starting point is 01:33:57 the stories are like fun but it doesn't mean anything particularly what I want is for I go to one of the fortune tellers and it spits out a card that tells me to go somewhere else in

Starting point is 01:34:12 the park and find something else, right? And I have to go up to the top of the Tarzan treehouse or whatever the hell. And then that sends me somewhere else. I want a fortune like a hunt throughout the park.

Starting point is 01:34:29 And I don't think that's unreasonable. No, I don't. I want it to cater to exactly what I want. No, that's cooler. I think that's what they were trying with that game in Frontierland for a little while, where there was sort of more of a hunt. But it was still, it felt like very

Starting point is 01:34:44 official. It felt like you needed to be somewhere at a certain time to give things out and then people would go off but you're but i think yeah maybe your idea your plus up here is good in the sense that it's a less formal version of that and you can find i mean they do little hunts like around easter they go find all the eggs and mark them down. That's not quite as cool as this, but maybe there are multiple choose-your-own-adventure type things with fortune-telling machines and other interactive elements that could be

Starting point is 01:35:13 like that. I mean, I think it's never... It will never be able to last if they need park employees to do it. If someone's job is to interact with someone and give them a clue all day i don't think that will happen right but right if they well that's what happened um they had this card game in florida that you would go around and play like almost like a magic like a simplified magic the

Starting point is 01:35:36 gathering kind of like game where you would cast spells and have character cards and this sort of thing and it was free to stay you got a starter pack for free and then you could buy stuff or they would give stuff with different cards to annual pass holders and they'd been doing it for years and just recently like shelved it for the moment because i don't know that the demand was there and yeah it requires i think some cast member interaction so So, yeah. So, yes, as you were saying, Avery, like, no, because that'll always get cut.

Starting point is 01:36:09 It'll always get cut when a human is having to do it. It has to be a job. So, figure out ways with these machines or other things to, like, send you on a little mission. Yeah, and I don't, and I feel like sometimes people like,

Starting point is 01:36:27 discount the app because they don't want people that like they don't like the idea of somebody walking around the park just staring at their phone all the time and and i agree that's like a legitimate concern right uh but i feel like if there's ways that like with with these fortune tellers what what's cool about it is that the app lets you interact physically with the landscape of the park do you know what i mean you're you're like using the app but it's not keeping you in the app it's like getting you out into into interesting things in the space uh so if they could make you do more of that it would be awesome yeah there because they because there was a Space Mountain, I mean, I guess it exists still, there's a Space Mountain-like game you could play. I guess we were playing it in line, and it was awful because we were having to just play it for 25 minutes, this game with putting pieces together and we're competing against other people online. And I was just like, this is so stressful. Like,

Starting point is 01:37:26 I feel like that's maybe not as good of an application as what you're saying, where it's just like, you interact with this cause you're close to it. It goes, Hey, there's a secret little quarter you may not have known about go over there. And then you put your phone down, you experience life,

Starting point is 01:37:40 you go over there and then you put your phone up for a second. And then, yeah, you go somewhere else. That, yeah, that, that feels a lot better with the application than having to play a stressful game against 30 people in space mountain lion and there's already that game you put on your forehead i mean that's already like dominating disney's not going to cut into the forehead card game which i can't summon the name of right now yeah I

Starting point is 01:38:06 what is the name of it I don't know heads up yeah there you go we're a great podcast for not knowing specific names I think every episode there is a search for a name which doesn't guaranteed

Starting point is 01:38:22 have an ending it's the correct answer at the end. Sometimes we leave the audience hanging. We did figure out the clown's name which was Cliffy. Cliffy. Cliffy. Okay. Cliffy the clown. And we did figure out that podcasting

Starting point is 01:38:38 is what kind of medium? An intimate. An intimate medium. And that's why he's the best that's why he's a pro that's why I'm the most intimate on the show I think I believe

Starting point is 01:38:52 Avery Monson you survived podcast the ride thank you for joining us for this trip through this intimate medium thanks for getting intimate with us let's exit through the gift shop is there anything you'd like to plug? yeah I mean you can follow me on

Starting point is 01:39:10 Twitter or Instagram at Avery Monson it's A-V-E-R-Y M-O-N-S-E-N or if you have kids I just wrote a children's book called I Am The Longest Dog that's published by

Starting point is 01:39:25 Disney. Which doesn't mean anything, unfortunately. It's a totally separate thing. You can check it out or go to longestdog.com and you can see the book.

Starting point is 01:39:42 Great. I would like to check it out because I call our dog Edwin a very long dog often. That's true. I'm not joking. He's small but long. Yeah. Read it to him and it will be

Starting point is 01:39:56 an intimate experience. Oh yeah, certainly. Yeah, makes a lot of sense. Hey, and for more intimate experiences with us, you can check us out on all your, your favorite social medias. And to quote shrunken net, if you want to patronize podcast,

Starting point is 01:40:13 the ride, then visit podcast, the ride, the second gate where you get three bonus episodes every month. And that's at patrion.com slash podcast, the ride. Jason, you're the only one who didn't do a fortune you do

Starting point is 01:40:26 it do a fortune for avery to close this out oh okay uh hmm while the path may seem treacherous and curving

Starting point is 01:40:41 straight cut through is often the best choice. Whoa. Is there anything else, though, maybe, in that fortune, Jason? And when you encounter an old friend

Starting point is 01:40:57 on the pathway, you know he's got a knife. So stab him first. Okay, okay. Oh no. You feel okay about that? You think you can handle it?

Starting point is 01:41:11 Yeah, I guess I just gotta stab everyone I know. Sounds like a plan. You took that just right. It's time to start stabbing, guys. Yeah. When you encounter someone you know on that street in san francisco that curves one way and the other and all the way down and you know it's just and you are walking right down

Starting point is 01:41:33 the center of it like cars honking at you and then you run into an old college roommate you know what to do you know what to do stab stab stab uh to do. Stab, stab, stab. All right. Thanks for listening, everybody. Bye-bye. Forever Dog. This has been a Forever Dog production. Executive produced by Mike Carlson, Jason Sheridan, Scott Gairdner,

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Podcast: The Ride - Disneyland Fortune Tellers with Avery Monsen

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