Podcast: The Ride - Disneyland Grad Nite with Kyle Mooney

Episode Date: December 13, 2024

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Forever Dog Warning, the following podcast may contain a pointless boat, sleepy cave songs, adorably disguised liquor bottles, and the unbridled energy of freshly graduated grads. Kyle Mooney returns to reminisce about Disneyland Grad Night on today's podcast, The Ride, a podcast hosted by three men who are so hip and youthful, you'd be shocked to learn that they graduated high school 20 years ago. My name is Mike Carlson, and just saying that makes me hurt, makes my stomach hurt. Jason Sheridan joining me as always. Well, I'm just a little guy. I'm so youthful. I've got'm just a little, I've got my big lolly for my recording.

Are you equating your size to how old you are? My sailor suit? I'm going to jump on my own reveal here. Who's that? Yes. Okay. Well, hang on. We'll put a pin in that.

But just so you're, so if you're short, but you're 80 years old, that's almost the same as being in high school. Yeah, sure. All right, fine. Okay. Now, I just wanted to clarify, and that's actually a good way being in high school yeah sure all right fine okay now i just wanted to clarify and that's actually a good way for me to come back is with clarifying a jason statement but now uh let's do it as planned uh and uh daddy's home scott gerdner is back get back

get back that's what i'm that's exactly you caught the reference that it's not get back it's that i'm it's me and i'm in a convertible and i'm driving in the back and the there's like there's a sticker that says director and it just peeled off and now it says podcaster underneath the stickers fix them can you go out and shoot that by the time this episode comes out yeah maybe or i can kind of hey i can ask ai to do my face onto yeah but it seems disrespectful to jay who's who's going through a tough time lately i yeah i don't want to do that until the face bruise is healed yeah um but yeah i'm back i'm back baby scott free no more scott scott full play time's over as they say we're we're dinking down to business, all right?

The show was so different for six weeks, and now it's going to be so different going forward. Yes, so markedly different. Well, the thing is, what I've learned about myself that I didn't even know until I started listening to the show without me and reading comments is that I hate tangents. I didn't realize that until you and the listeners said it. But now, I guess now that I know that about myself, no more of those tangents. I didn't realize that until you and the listeners said it. But now, I guess now that I know that about myself, no more of those tangents. Jason and I invented tangents in the last six weeks.

Yeah. Podcasting never had it before. We didn't invent it, we perfected it. Something I certainly on the record is never having done. You'll listen to seven years worth of episodes, you will hear me staying micro-focused on topic

every single second of every single one as it will be from now on. And to that end, now there's various business of me returning to the show, which we can deal with at a later time. You were working on something. Now you've come back with a face bruise on the other side is jay

you have the other side of bruise and an eye patch and you have not explained that either it's just boy that's what a shoot will do to you yeah you you get banged up hollywood am i right is he like is what's the with the star wars is it a dyad what is it where they're two halves like ray and kylo are two halves of the same thing. It's like Scott and Jay both get hurt at the same time. Of course it's a dyad. It's a dyad, right. Okay.

We're talking about that. Scott and Jay Leno are part of a dyad, basically, is what you're saying. Yeah. Well, at least we were with everything we've been through through the month of November. But now we're back. The triad is back. But actually, it's going to be a quad. And why I wanted to save any business of me coming back is that there is a much more important return uh to podcast the ride that is in progress right now over there in

the fourth chair i can't believe he's not been with us in three years i think that was the last one i believe so yeah you believe that three years really flies it probably especially flies for this guy who used that time to direct his feature film directorial debut uh which he also wrote along with evan winter uh it's a great movie called y2k which you can see right now i've seen this film this is a great film highly encourage you to see it but first we're gonna talk about a bunch of bullshit with the great Kyle Mooney. Oh, man. Yay. Welcome back. Damn. It feels good. I told you it would.

You know what I was just- I've been talking you and talking you into it for weeks trying to get you off the ledge, and now that you're in it, doesn't it feel great? I've been on the ledge, and I do want to apologize for constantly being on the ledge. I, yeah, so the last time we recorded would have been around November 2021. Is that right?

I think so. I think it was Zoom because you were back in New York. Yep. It was last season, honest to know, maybe? Last season, we were about to put out Smash. Saturday Morning All-Star. And I don't know if I've ever told any of you this. I'm sure we've talked about this to some degree

but that was of course our step-by-step episode tgi f episode yeah well there's a lot of we tried to pack in three of the shows and i think the feeling before is like i think we maybe all asked is that too many right and the answer was yes we kept you for a long time on a fucking zoo it was good i had a lot of fun but i remember feeling feeling like, Jesus, we have really, you know, I was participating and I didn't, you, you, you guys did nothing wrong. But I will say that in that appearance, I got sort of, you know, I kind of, I, I was confused and I thought that maybe the butt master wasn't. I thought that the writers of Step by Step were creating some sort of fake product.

Oh, right. That's what happened. Because I knew that the Thighmaster existed. The Thighmaster, which was Susan Summer's product, was on Step by Step, who's passed away since we recorded that, I believe. Yes. And then they made a reference to something else, the butt master, thought that was a i thought it was a product it sounded like such a 90s like joke almost you know what i mean like yeah i guess you gotta get your butt master and uh anyway i i felt so bad when i feel like you revealed that i think that's a thing i am

actually you i think yeah no yeah another thing that's what podcasts aren't about tangents they're about um actually right they're about correcting people it was totally fair and I'm thankful that you did because like anyway then I would say the next day maybe two days I think it was the very next day I had to get some dental surgery and they put me on nitrous oxide and for some people this is like an enjoyable occurrence i have a friend who like she says like she like listens to like fish concerts while she's on nitrous at the dentist for me i got fully high i felt like i was like i was in the dentist chair and it was like um sort of folding into the floor below me and the only thing i could think about is how i fucked up the butt master thing and it was like the worst time

of my life oh god so you're hearing about nitrous is chill man you can have a music hits harder and i was like instead i'm like going to cancel me. They're coming after me. Oh my God. Is that us? Is that the listeners? I don't know. Who's after us? You don't want to be inside my brain, Scott.

You know what's funny? I was like, you know what might be funny at the top of the show is to reference the Buttmaster thing and bring it up in a way of like, Kyle, I just want you to, I want to put you at ease and let you know we've not been thinking about the butt master for three years that's water under the bridge we really we have no it has not been something constantly on our brains for three straight years and then i was like all right is that like a bothersome joke to do at the time and then you go right into you were beat you were you were beating yourself up. So you actually have been thinking about it for three years. Well, no, I was thinking about bringing it up

as if it's a thing that we've cared about or thought about. It's been such a long time since we've had you, Kyle. And by the way, the butt master thing was fine. I understand the confusion. Everybody does. There were never flame wars in our Facebook or Reddit entirely about how you... Flame wars, yeah. the confusion everybody does there were never flame wars in our facebook or reddit entirely about how flame wars yeah it's a retro phrase y2k you see yeah smart yeah no i i uh i feel like you

also maybe mentioned it i know you at least texted about it after too like and if you want to cut all the butt master stuff feel free i think i felt bad i do remember now that i felt bad that you felt bad i don't know how long it lasted but it lasted a day or two i unfortunately just suffer from neuroses and anxiety and all of that so like yeah i just get obsessive about stuff we put out two episodes a week and i can't go to bed until the episode posts generally i have anxiety every single time what is the main thought that is that either there's something technical i've screwed up i've something is something's wrong with it or that just something i've said in the episode is wrong or somebody's going to get annoyed by it if it makes you feel any better i I also stay up usually. I have a terrible time getting to bed before midnight.

So I usually stay awake and check on Wednesdays and Fridays as well. Well, I think it's what a lot of listeners do too, because they can't wait for the newest podcast to ride the drum. Has there ever been an experience where those thoughts have turned out to be true or as bad as you imagine them rarely for anything i'm saying once in a while though i posted the for the wrong time or once in a while i'll do something like technique something technically is wrong it's rare but once in a while so that keeps you going that keeps your brain going when it happens you know what

twice a year once a year whatever it is there's also once or twice a year where, like, oh, there's a hosting outage at the hosting or iTunes or whatever, and it's like, well, you can't do anything. You just have to find out. I get what you're saying. There was that weird thing recently. I think it happened while I was gone. I don't know if this was a mistake, but you

put out an episode that was entirely about your credit card points. That must have been, like, that was, like, an error, error right that was just something we recorded that in private yeah and i accidentally posted that instead of an episode about i listened to it like this is what they would have been talking about i'm gonna post a real episode which is about goofy's barnstormer okay but it was accidentally about credit card points well i want to say something as a representative of the audience for you like and that's that we're cool with whatever we get. Thank you.

And you don't need to be losing sleep over it. And if there's a mistake, that's fine. And that makes you human. Thank you very much. I do appreciate it. That's really beautiful. That is a nice thing to hear. Wow.

Wow. You know? We got to look out for each other. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. You know, I feel like you gotta look out for each other. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Us, the us and the audience.

Thank you for standing up for the whole audience and, and saying, I don't listen to the show, but I'm, I'm, yeah, yeah. Well,

I didn't know if you were saying a nice thing, but I get it. I understand. I still accept it and enjoy that. That makes me feel good. That's beautiful. That was really nice too. And I'm glad that I understand. I still accept it and enjoy that. That makes me feel good. That's beautiful. That was really nice too. And I'm glad that I'm back here to Kyle's back here so that we can all like,

you know, uh, uh, I, you know, cause I think there's a history of you on the show. I feel like you like, you helped us get some nice,

like connective moments. Oh, that's true. Years ago in that one where we were all drinking and we went to Buffalo wild wings after. Yeah. That was the first, I don't want to let to put you on the spot with personal things.

We talked about it the whole episode. Then let's go to Buffalo Wild Wings. Let's go to Buffalo Wild Wings. And then we went there and that was the first that you opened up that you were maybe going to pop the question to your now wife, Kate, I think. Oh, yeah, that's right. You were like workshopping the idea. That was probably the first you told anybody, right? you hadn't even thought about doing it until you stepped foot

into the buffalo wild wings yeah yeah something about um though their wings and the buffaloes or something about hanging out with three dorks at the Burbank Buffalo a lot where he's like, I gotta lock my relationship down. I can't do this shit anymore. What has my life turned into? The wise counsel of John Jameson's product, you know, helped you, pushed you over the edge. No, but I thank you. I forgot about that. Thanks for that reminder. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that was a nice thing. Let's keep it up.

And it's working out. We got a baby. Yeah, that's happened since you've been on the show. Congrats on that. I have not told you, I don't think, in a year and a half. Congrats. There's nothing like microphones to put the pressure on. All good, brother. And I know that you've been busy.

Yeah, you're right. But it's one word. At the end of the day, it's one word. You can always make time for one word. Oh, sorry. I'm sorry. I haven't been there for you. I don't think we need to cover anything else today.

I feel like good about our personal business. I feel good about it. I feel good. Yeah. No, we're all set. You said the audience is good with anything. We do. Sure.

So this is a 10 minute episode. We just kind of shoot the shit. We say nice stuff. They like you. If you're earnest, if you're coming out there being like, this is something I care about, I think that they're going to appreciate that it makes you feel any better when the buttmaster first came up I had a split

second in a row season and went oh god which of the four of us was the buttmaster and then it all came flooding back it was an insult and then we said step by step and it just unlocked like I could picture where I was

when we were doing this. Oh, so you literally don't remember any of this. So that's good. No, I remember entirely now and I remember feeling so bad that he felt bad, but I thought like for a split second, I went like.

Okay, here's what I think actually happened. Yeah. Is that you were like, oh shit, there was an episode where everybody named me the butt master because of something I said. And now I'm freaking out because I don't remember any of the inside jokes. I think if I had been christened the butt master, it would have come up every episode.

I'm like, we would have had a t-shirt. We should vote. Who is the butt master of the show? It's Jason. It's Jason. Well, now it is. I painted back myself into a corner. Yeah, you did pretty much ask for it. And what makes him the butt master? Oh, you know. I painted my back myself and do a corner. Yeah.

You did pretty much ask for it. Him the butt master. Oh, you know, just give him a look here. He's the butt master. He's Jason speaks for itself. We did that.

We did learn a lot about various sexual things that Jason knows a lot about while I was gone. That's right. I feel like that's going to get revisited a lot about various sexual things that Jason knows a lot about while I was gone. That's right. I feel like that's going to get revisited a lot. That'll get revisited soon. Now that I've returned to the show. Yeah, yeah. Let's flip hard the other way because we talked about your daughter.

Look, okay. Let's just hard separate. Okay. Before we started recording, you were talking about just yesterday. Just yesterday, you were at Disneyland. You started the process. You're taking your kid to Disneyland, a beautiful thing.

Yeah. We love hearing about this when guests, you know, switch into that mode. And you had something you were starting to say. I forget if it was about Mickey's house or you had an observation.

Oh, that's right. Okay, yeah. So, yeah. So, we went to, my movie came out, our movie came out. There's a lot of people that make a movie happen so i'm

just not trying to take a person like singular ownership over by any means but the movie came out yesterday and i kind of wanted to get away from the scene a bit and just sort of do my own thing so the noise was sort of off so to speak speak. And so my wife and my daughter, we all went down to Disneyland, and she's one and a half, so she's, like, not fully aware and engaging with that sort of universe. You know what I mean? She knows who Mickey is,

but, like, you know, we took her on Small World probably, like, you know, a few months ago, and I think I don't know that she like really gets what's happening sure sure it's a little bit in the yeah the rain i forgot i started to you started you started probably right around this time around that time yeah we took her on small world and she like clapped yeah something yeah but she she likes mickey mouse she has a mickey mouse doll we have mickey mouse t-shirts and you say like oh we're you know where's mickey she like points to her no matter what shirt she is when you say mickey she points to her shirt because she knows that mickey's on

her shirt sometimes any of this all to say all to say that i've never gone to uh mickey's home in toontown and so we did that and we were sort of uh i don't know i was really curious as to what her response would be to meeting mickey because i feel like it could be full just silence awkwardness it could be fear um uh it could be it could be anything and we waited in line and I'm gonna get to my note in a moment but I just wanted to say that like when you know the door like you're in a line you watch a movie and then they open

a door and then you're like right outside of Mickey's I guess what cab is it a cabin is it a dressing room it was like he's shooting his movie barn he makes movies his movie barn his movie barn yes he makes movies in his barn yes uh much like uh walt disney with the alice comedies if you will yes yeah he knows

his history um and when the door to the barn opened and like we saw that there was like mickey mouse in there and she recognized him she was was like, Oh shit. Pretty psyched. And when we finally got up to him, she was so excited and laughing and touching his nose. And it was really, really touching. And I think when we left his house and like, we were back in Toontown and we walked past, uh,

Roger Rabbit's cartoon spin. Yeah. She's like pointing at it and laugh. It almost felt like, oh, now this whole universe makes sense. This is like a weird wacky place where people are having fun. Wow.

Wow. Like she figured it out by going through the, like meeting Mickey made her understand. That's what I'm projecting. I could be incorrect. Okay. Here's my issue. And I'm curious where you guys fall on this.

So the Mickey we met was classic Mickey. And it almost, I think he was wearing, he was kind of like the Fantasia Mickey. I don't know that he had on the wizard cap, but he had like a red robe. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They still do the thing where it's like recreating scenes, and he's like on set, quote unquote. Because we saw Mickey a couple weeks ago, and he was wearing a Steamboat Willie outfit. Okay, okay. That's not my issue. I unquote. Because we saw Mickey a couple of weeks ago and he was wearing a Steamboat Willie outfit. Okay.

That's not my issue. I liked that it was iconic Mickey. My issue is that the movie we're watching is one of those like new movies a la the like Mickey Railroad. Oh, rude-ish. Stylistically is so different than the Mickey Mouse you're about to interact with. And I almost feel like my daughter was like confused, like didn't know that the Mickey Mouse you're about to interact with. And I almost feel like my daughter was

confused, didn't know that was Mickey Mouse that we're watching on the screen because she knows round face classic Mickey. And I feel like there's a contradiction to have those two in the exact same place.

Yes. It's interesting. I'll say this about my daughter who's a few months older than your daughter yeah we she has now watched every different version of poo bear and i think that taught her like she now accepts you just go that's poo and she goes great like she didn't say great but i almost feel like eventually you just get the kid gets used to the fact that there's a hundred versions yeah but because of runaway railway which is that style of mickey i do there is a weird contrast now and especially because they've ended the shorts the shorts now are over so i don't even know if they're

going to abandon that style completely so there may be a time when we have like three or four verge like styles of mickey yeah in toontown so i I hear what you're saying, but I feel like it's going to get even more chaotic from here. I think get out those shorts. Really? I don't take them out. Oh, really? I've not been on that ride, though. I've heard it's great.

It's a very good ride, yeah. Could be a scary one for a little kid, freaking mine out. We haven't done that yet. Why not just show like plain crazy or something like that? Yeah. Didn't they used to? I'm sure they did.

This is news to me that it is the new style. Maybe that was a move to make everything consistent with Runaway Railway. But I think probably that is weird. If you're going to show that Mickey, then you want to meet that Mickey. But it would also look weird if they had made a suit out of that new Mickey. Yes, absolutely. He would look strange and he would scare kids. Yes.

Because he is unnerving. And there's the animatronic in the ride of the new Mickey, and it is very weird to see three-dimensional Mickey and Minnie. The proportions are strange. Right. Yes. In person. Here's my knee jerk, though, to that.

I mean, I don't like if it caused confusion for your daughter, but it makes me flash to the Chuck E. Cheese conundrum that we all dealt with growing up where Chuck E. Cheese on stage is different than Chuck on screen. Right. He might be animated and a puppet and a robot on the stage and a suit in the room and they're all visible all at the same time. Yeah. suit in the room and they're all visible all at the same time yeah which has only gotten crazier because now some then you might also see the bad cgi one voiced by the guy from the band bowling for soup right uh and did i get the band right yep oh great great um and then there's a whole other one right i think maybe it's uh um you know i don't mean to do that kind of like generational thing of uh uh well you know she's got to deal with it. She's got to like,

uh, you know, I dealt with it. Uh, but I, I think maybe I like that at like, uh, you're,

if you're challenged by inconsistent brands to have to like overcome and process that there's four completely different renderings of the same character in one room. Well, this is a thing I feel like Mike, maybe you're the same way, that I learned very early on in the 90s comic book boom because everyone drew the X-Men differently. Everyone drew Batman differently.

And I was just like, oh, there's different artists for these things. Yeah, that's true. But you didn't do that when you were one. Right, and it wasn't in- No, I was like eight or not. I was gaining eight or not like I was I was gaining media literacy

I would think the plus I would understand like I'm sure they probably just put those shorts though in that line because the whole thing is very 90s Mickey the whole house is 90s Mickey the video feels you could feel Michael Eisner just soaked in the walls as far as like 90s

because Toontown that's when they built it, or that's when it opened, or whatever. But they probably just put it in for synergy. And I could see now that they're not doing those shorts anymore, I could see somebody go, well, let's put the old stuff back in that line, because we have the new stuff in a full ride. Exactly. They can be two isolated things. Yeah.

That's the thing. I think if you keep them separate, you go into that one ride, you're going to see that Mickey. You go into this house, you see this Mickey. That would be my, for sure my thing. Have you shown your daughter Mickey Mouse Clubhouse

or any of those versions? We just watched for the first time like truly a couple days ago. It looks worse than Reboot from the 90s. Really? The CGI on it is dog shit. I will say,

yeah, I agree. Yeah. But it was making me laugh because like it feels like i'm watching a video game yeah it's a cut scene from a video game like a playstation one video game do they have no gravity does everybody just kind of fly around look up mickey mouse clubhouse and there's a couple like fun like they might be giant songs that like the theme and then yeah and those playing toontown now and my daughter loves mickey mouse clubhouse it's the mickey mouse

clubhouse and they got inside it's fun inside you know what i haven't said on the show they there's a music version of that playing and that goofy movie but if you go to the very back of toontown under the cave there's like sleepy versions of all those songs there's like a dark part back that my daughter loves to run around and pick up leaves but there's like calm versions of the exact same soundtrack so if you move out of that area you get the more high energy version but the slow like the sleepy version i haven't seen anybody mentioned i just noticed it the last time we went that's really nice yeah but that show is unbelievably bad looking what is the name of the one where they're, it's two dimension. They're like a racing or something? No,

no, the one where they're all in like a nightclub. Oh, that's, that's older. House of Mouse. Yeah, that's older. No,

that's an older one. That is, that's even older, but that looks better because 2D animation ages. That's like Hades is at the nightclub. Yeah. And you guys remember Gushers? Yeah,

I guess I do. Pikachu? I mean mean that was wild when pikachu showed up uh well you know what look we alice oh the alice cooper was on mickey mouse clubhouse as a dog character i've heard about this as really here yeah that's probably right no one else has talked about it okay so we got that to cover we got the back we got like we got the grass to cover in the back of the grass to cover right but we have the three or four the the the a twitter account uh lost media busters posted the pictures from the uh attempted herbie the love bug cg cartoon really that there's like no there's like nothing wow about except a few screen grabs and it looks weird we were talking about when we were pitching what

we're gonna do here kyle you threw out the possibility of that there was this little mermaid jim henson show is that the thing you were talking about that there was a ariel pilot ariel's island it was a yeah produced by jim henson in 1990 but like pretty soon before he he passed and apparently he just was not happy with with the the, with the, with it. Yeah. It was just him? Like it didn't pass Jim's muster? He didn't,

I don't, I think he was just a producer on it. I don't think he directed it or co-wrote it or anything like that, but it's live action and there are puppet, puppet representations of all the Little Mermaid characters. And they look like the Disney versions? Wow. Little Mermaid's Island.

Huh. Huh. Is there, is it any, is it viewable? Like, it's on YouTube. Wow. Oh, the whole thing just did? Oh, shit. Yeah. I think there were two episodes made. I only know that one is available on YouTube. I don't know if both are. But yeah, it's fast. I mean, it feels somewhat related to a sort of next generation of, say, Welcome to or devil's flying circus or something like that oh sure right well speaking of different versions of characters that's very much in that where it's like the ones you recognize but there's something off because they got to be big enough to fit somebody in a suit or they're just that i mean it's really just

that like what what is that where does the creepiness of poo corner come from it's that like it's the like painted backgrounds and suits on there's just i know that locked into your brand the like inherent scariness of those shows oh yeah i don't yeah you're right i mean like if we were staring at the image i feel like we could call out all the things that are weird about it sure sure like i mean in the one case it's weird that that winnie the pooh is talking to piglet about strangers and right drugs and stuff. But there is just maybe like sort of a deadness in the eyes or something like that that isn't very warm. Yeah.

And when you've seen the light, like animation from the best era of animation, and that's how you know the characters, then going to sort of creepily dead eyed suits. Yeah. I watched all that stuff, too. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But let's try to talk about the thing we're supposed to talk about. Yeah. creepily dead-eyed suits yeah i watched all that stuff too yeah i did yeah i like yeah yeah yeah but let me let's let's try to talk about the thing we're supposed to talk about guys remember no tangents are over all right that's the new scott the scott full policy okay no i am excited to talk about what you i've you pitched this a while ago and i've been amped on it for for a

while so i'm excited that we're finally talking about grad night and if you don't know what grad night is just the basic cliff notes of it uh it is the the disneyland and at one time disney world tradition of renting the entire park out to high school seniors to graduating high school seniors uh these events that are put on throughout may and june uh where high school seniors get the run of the park from dusk till dawn, an overnight event that does not interrupt the regular flow of Disneyland business during the day. But, you know, they cut the teens wild. And it's a really fun area we've never explored. And I'm glad you brought it up. Is there anything that you could point to of like what got you excited about that initially? Well'm glad you brought it up is there anything that uh uh you could point

to of like what what got you excited about that uh initially well did you do it what's that i did do it yes okay yeah i think well that's a question is if anybody here i think probably only me unless you got you guys didn't do like the disney world you didn't travel for you know super far to go to no i but i ended up at disney world right after i graduated with the high school band okay but it wasn't like i mean it was sort of a like right but it was a bunch of it was every class it was that's not that's not staying up all night that's not we were like going crazy we were staying up all night oh that's just your own choice that's not the disney company making you no stay on property if you want any sleep you gotta go do it on a bench somewhere right no not the same thing and and yeah jason you haven't you didn't do it i no i didn't i i was trying i was breeding

up on the florida one which was kind of it ran for a while and then it was kind of start stop and jane was like did they still do grad nine at disneyland and it's like oh you're thinking about this disney world ended a while ago but yet disneyland's been going since 1961 yeah yeah disney world stopped in the 2000s sometime uh but kyle you were so you did you did not actually do this uh with your high school no i we had a grad night though which was like uh in our gym and i think that you know there was like it was maybe casino themed and like you could win like a you know an xbox or something or what like i don't or like you know i don't i i don't know what the like prizes were the main thing i remember was cody green got hypnotized. Do tell. I don't know, man.

Like, the hypnotist came, and, like, Cody was going off and doing some weird stuff. Like he's on nitrous or something? Exactly. He's like, I am the butt master. Cody Green, the original butt master.

I don't know what, yeah. I've not seen a ton of hypnotists we don't need to go down this route that is a pretty wild thing to see there's some naughty ones in Vegas yeah I'm sure there's like dirty hypnotists I'm gonna be forced to be the boatmaster

the whole point is like and maybe this is the sort of mission statement with the Disney one as well is like let's cause I guess it's the night after graduation well it depends i think the i mean the disneyland one runs it's like any i mean maybe they try to time it out that way but there's like a ton of schools so just like whenever works probably i think for us it was like i want to say the night after our graduation and the idea is let's keep all the kids contained so they don't get drunk essentially

let them go wild but in a in a way that we're checking instead like well there's a question like start like having sex all over yeah yeah yeah sure sure i mean were there were there any corners of that gym where that would have been a possibility or was that pretty um oh i feel like you know a little more than i might have kissed my girlfriend okay well i might not have either i don't i don't fully recall uh you know is that due to uh sneaking in booze or is that due to you being hypnotized as well no i did not get hypnotized i i actually think it was very it was for me personally incredibly like a clean uh interaction like um experience sure sure we had one of these kind of lock-in things it was post-prom okay so we have to the senior prom everyone went home and

changed or changed someone else's house wherever the cool limo dropped you back off but you got in the cool limo? I was in the cool limo and we were at the Philadelphia the Hyatt right on the Delaware River and it was pouring rain all day except

for the morning with the drunk driving demonstration this all the same day? This is all the same day. It's a big day. This is where all of Jason's memories come from, this one day. So you had to be at post-prom.

It was like 1 a.m. to 5 a.m. There were casino tables. There were raffles. There was the big sumo suits. The pool was open. Sumo suit. There's some classic stuff. I don't think i've ever done a sumo suit you do a sumo suit i did not do a sumo suit but that episode should we do sumo suits it's so sorry let's do it we'll find a place to do it even if we have to sneak into a post-prom party fine yeah everyone who went was guaranteed at

least one prize from the drawing uh I won a little 13-inch TV that sat in all my college dorm rooms at my first place out here until HGTVs caught on. Was that the TV you were using until Mike gave you his TV? Was that a clean transfer from the prize to... There was one TV in between, I think.

Just one, though. I had a smaller bedroom TV, and that was just given away on Craigslist. How's my TV doing, by the way? Hanging in there, great. It's still doing good? Okay. From what year?

From how long are we talking? 2010. It's a 14-year-old TV. Just set up a Blu-ray player in there. Wow. Watched the Walter Hill directed movie Last Man Standing starring Bruce Willis.

The first TV commercial I ever booked bought that TV. That's right. Glad to hear it's still... I bought a PS3 with that TV, I think, also. I was like, well, I'm really living it up. Jeez. Sure. Well, glad it's still in good hands.

Tried to watch Taking of Pelham 1, 2, 3 on it, but Hoopla was being real buggy. The library one? The library one, yeah. The Walter Matthau Pelham, not the John Travolta one. Oh, the original, okay. The original. Kyle, any thoughts about Matthau Pelham? Just funny guys, I guess.

Some funny Robert Shaw's in there. He's the main rapper. Robert Shaw, okay. Okay, here, I will pivot it over, though, to the... Well, actually, I'll ask you, Mike, though. You didn't do a decent thing. Did you have anything like this? Did you have something like, everybody stay sober?

No, not really. I mean, after prom, we drove downtown to a boat for some weird reason, after prom we went to like a boat we like drove downtown to a boat for some weird reason but then we went home still so i don't know what the point of it was it's just a lot of travel 40 30 minutes so no really fun on the boat i feel like it was the same boat that we went at the end of like eighth where I just remember dancing with a girl while Casey and JoJo played. Yeah. Wow. And I just was vibrating with intensity,

which we've talked about how much we like this all my life, this song by Casey and JoJo. Because my son's super into it. I don't know if I passed that to you, Kyle. Yeah. Actually, not so much lately, but there was a couple months there where we just catch him alone in his room.

All my life, I pray for someone like you um yeah yeah it fell off though you know why long string intro he gets bored really yeah you've noticed that yeah yeah but i don't remember that on the radio there must be an edited version there must be yes i think that was the shop it's not exactly it's not exactly like some like amazing orchestral mozart piece of work on those strings it's maybe that's that's worth a chop i think you gotta chop that um but no we didn't have anything we not no lock in i'm not sure i don't think there was something i didn't get invited to i don't think we like stayed at my friend's house maybe after i don't remember i don't think so though nothing like this i'm feeling really lucky that i got to do the real deal.

I did the Disneyland overnight and I did it twice in fact, because I joined my little sister for it a couple of years later when, when she graduated. Um, and it's fun. It's when you're okay. When you're me, when you're a, like, you know, like, uh, well, I guess a couple of things like I'm, you know, I probably lost the Disneylandneyland nerddom the

most that i ever did in high school but it never fully goes away you're just like you're just burying it a little bit so the opportunity that like oh the thing is going to be the big party is going to be a disneyland thing and you know men may of course i'm going to be there having fun and mainly like trying to pretend that i like the music that's playing but maybe once in a while they have us waiting on main street for a while maybe i could point to one of the windows and say that's actually that's the name of somebody who worked here maybe somebody maybe i get a smooch because of that i would say the answer is no that did not happen uh it definitely did not happen um but yeah i so i would have this would have been uh

2003 that was my uh as as as referenced in joke, it is over 20 years at this point. Is that everybody? No, I'm 2002. No, I'm 03. Okay. We graduated the same class. And Mike, sorry, what are you? 02.

Is it a little louder, Mike? Oh, 2002. Okay. I'm sorry. I just wanted people to hear. I wasn't trying to embarrass you or anything. No, no. I just wanted to make sure it was audible.

Do you ever get scared of him? Because he's an upperclassman. I am now that you mention it. I am the upperclassman on the show. You're the buttmaster and I'm the upperclassman. You don't pull rank enough. You don't boss us around like you should. Yeah.

Going 2025, that's our new names. Scott's got to figure. Well, he's daddy. Scott is daddy because daddy's home. You're the butt master. And I am the most daddy now of anyone, now with the two kids. That's right. Because by default, I am daddy.

You are more daddy than me. Much more daddy. Talk about pulling rank. Yeah, hey, I'm more daddy than you, upperclassman. All right, I don't know. Does daddy outrank upperclassman? I don't know. That's another debate. It's up to the listener to decide. I'm not daddy than you, upperclassman. All right. I don't know. Does daddy outrank upperclassman? I don't know. That's another debate.

It's up to the listener to decide. I hope this is someone's first episode. Anyways, yeah. I mean, it was great. I was really looking forward to it. The all-night challenge of it, that's not something i did a ton and i was worried that i would lose steam but you know you just like you know you go wild with the sodas and then you know anything's possible is open yeah yes unless i had this question i meant to look up

like what is not like do they not do great moments with mr lincoln are they asking for like dark room make out trouble if they leave something like that over but as far as i know yeah it's everything was open and lines are relatively shorter because it's not you know it's a very populated part there's probably like i don't even want to guess but i'd say you know at least it's somewhere between 50 to 100 high schools there so it's still a lot of people but not nearly as bad and the big big thing, I think I liked this as a trying to be quiet about it, theme park fan, that they do all this stuff

to make it cool for teens or whatever. Like there's a bunch of, there's a lot of like DJ setups. There's little like nightclubs and dance zones. But I, of course, did not want to do any of that shit. So that means less lines for me so I can just tear through all the rides.

Yeah, you don't get caught in the distractions of dancing to 50 Cent or whatever. Did they have any characters dancing or was it just grads? That's a good question. I don't recall. I'll jump around a little bit and say that there is grad night uh energy preserved in a special that doug jones reminded me existed which is called disneyland's summer uh what is it disneyland's summer vacation party and this is a very good special from 1986 hosted by malcolm jamal warner and the and a couple of the facts of girls. And they run through tons of bands.

So many bands. The lineup is nuts. I didn't see that one. I only watched the John Cicada one. Oh, yes. I sent you that one. Yeah, yeah. Weirdly, there are two specials that they tried to make out of.

That was a Disney World one, which I'll circle back to. But this 80s one, very, very good. Highly recommend it. There's not even much in it in terms of like clips or funny stuff to play because it's just good you just like pop around it's videopolis videopolis is new and you get the bangles over there uh uh and you get miami sound machine doing bad boys over there i know that clip because doug put that in one of his one yeah one of his compilations. Yeah, I love that.

Which was so great. He did a really great remix that is just like, he just cut together all the footage from this thing. It was an Everything is Terrible video. Forgive me, Doug, I don't remember the name. But there's, we could post it. But there's like, he just cut together all of the kids dancing at the various acts.

And there'll just be a sporadic character in there once in a while. It's pretty nice. And it's always weird ones it's like just captain hook at like the fifth dimension or something or my favorite uh 80s elo a elo and 86 and they're performing in front of the castle with a stage that's set up just for that that's all neon triangles so my vibe and it's yellow and uh it cuts to the audience and it's entirely human except for one lowly uh uh fantasia ostrich in a sea of people then just one ostrich head poking up like again oddly chosen characters but a hell of a part this is by the way and this is i think what i wanted to say about any of this is like i know it's things we can't

look these are like old high school events right we're not supposed to be there we're older than us but any of these i would kill to time travel to like era like 80s 90s grad nights i mean yeah i'll sort of state the obvious here and we can go into it as much as we but up until like the mid 90s i would say there would be these years where like as extra enticement there's five major recording acts or more and we we've dealt a lot of times with like who disney thinks is cool and good to put in these things and in grad nights in the 80s and 90s, they weren't off at all. They were right on the map. They were good, good bands.

Yeah, I don't know if you guys have access to a list, but for the sake of Y2K, our movie coming out, takes place in 1999 going into 2000. The headliner for the 99 Grad Night is Britney Spears. Oh my God, Jesus. Britney Spears, Wheel Big Fish, and Sister Hazel. headliner for the 99 grad night is britney spears oh my god jesus in 99 real big fish and sister hazel like that is wow that's like yeah that's like yeah you know today that'd be like what

chaperone or something like that that's like yes and actually of the moment like correctly calibrated pop culture person here i'll email actually i have something here but i'll email a better list of like but we can we can and this is the thing i think to do throughout as we as we just get excited about these lists of names and i'll tell you i'll tell you the the lineup that for me was most exciting that like oh if i could see i think it's i want to say it's maybe 85 85 is Midnight Star who great R&B funk group they did No Parking on the Dance Floor

they had a song called Curious which is one of my favorite songs of all time. Shalamar another great group A Night to Remember this is for the lover in you. Tina Marie Tina Marie Every Night. Some of these were just that song yeah um this is for the lover lover and you tina marie tina marie every night some of these were just one night some of them were just like we're five of them wow if you went to grad night 85 you're guaranteed tina marie you're guaranteed square biz and emotion so we got we got

some sort of new wave in there run dmc now this is like run dmc pretty much entering the peak of their powers oh yeah right yeah 85 is like exactly DMC pretty much entering the peak of their powers. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, 85 is like exactly when that's when Aerosmith happens or kind of right after. It's certainly after a couple of the big ones, after Rockbox or big ones like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. Yeah.

Shannon, some good freestyle music. I mean, all of these, even in 89, I see, you know who went to the 89 one was our friend Mike Moon. I remember him telling me, do you know who performed it? My grad night, he says, I have no idea. He's like, Information Society did that song. I want to know what y'all thinking. Oh, wow. But New Kids on the Block were there in 89.

Wow. Oh, my God. You're a graduating high school senior. You get to spend all night at Disneyland and you get New Kids on the Block. That's nuts. It's not even like... Now, sometimes they get it wrong. Like, in that special I was describing,

one that we've bemoaned recently, Sha-na-na. They're still trying to shove their bullshit in there. But for the most part, these lists are insane. Yeah. There's a lot of Shalamar. I see Pointer Sisters throughout.

That's always a good thing for sure. I think that was what 82 i'm trying to find that one i see them in 81 i see 82 i see sister sledge birdie higgins key largo that's wild and uh frankie and the knockouts do you know frankie i don't know that's a that's a yacht well you might know it if i maybe I don't know if you've run across this on a yacht playlist. Yeah. Sweetheart, it was you from the start. No, it doesn't ring a bell.

I don't know if I know that. It's kind of good, like, you know, like fine early 80s band. They were really good on Fridays. Sometimes I'll put on all the musical guests from Fridays. I've never done that. Fridays was so great because it'll be like cool. Yeah, yacht stuff it's kenny loggins but then like the beach boys were on and then but then like actual like you know edgier you know devo the clash then i feel like every i'm forgetting one there's a really oh like uh boz skaggs was good anything and if you don't know fridays that is the early 80s competitor to saturday night live that had that is why larry david met michael richards um i don't know i can't

speak to the show but music always i feel like every single week of fridays music was uh right on the money that's great that's that's that endorsement oh yeah i'm looking at 87 right now also we might be looking at different lists because I have. I think Pointer Sisters 82, Sister Sledge 81. OK. Wow. Oh, yeah, that's different. BJ Thomas on 75 with the Pointer Sisters on this.

Oh, yes. I emailed like this is a version of it, but it's not like. Yeah, it's probably some of the same stuff. It also might be that like these people were all there and like i'm seeing a selected yeah maybe i've also seen lists where they like merge disneyland and disney world maybe that's so that i think some of them are all over the map and in that regard but then oh here all right let me throw out 88 is a strong one expose i didn't even uh roger troutman's roger troutman in 88 that's if you don't know that's is he he is the vocoder voice in zap not zap isn't the vocoder voice is he i don't know yes roger is performing the

is it a vocoder or a talk box oh you probably know better than me but yeah he i think their very first record he's credited as also as zap which is like oh he's both is that what that's confusing i mean the the group is called zap yeah but like if i think if you look at the back of the record like you'll see all the band members and then i think like zap is i think also sort of like the guy who's singing through these songs if that makes any sense oh okay oh like a character i could be mr roger plays wow i don't know don't maybe maybe not fair that sounds like that sounds up our alley in a girth brooks yes roger is is definitely doing everything in the mastermind behind well so even like you

gotta get to see him at disneyland holy shit Michael Bolton. Bolton in 88. Men Without Hats. Kind of confusing in 88. Yeah. But as I'm picking years, that's when I'm looking at that brochure. And by the way, all these brochures also just like awesome fonts, awesome neon, weird squiggles, weird like diagrams showing the kind of clothes that the men and the women have to wear. Because there was a dress code for all this. You had to be fancy for it but i'm looking at like i'm seeing i get to see roger troutman

star tours is new videopolis is new captain eo is new any of those i'm like holy sh for that to be my my fucking graduating year you see you see mr bolton like when a man loves a woman. You're like, yeah, that's pretty cool. But that was almost like he walked into the room just now. No,

it's not even like that, Scott, but I do appreciate it. Hey, so you were lifting us up. I got to lift you up. Oh, no,

no, no, no. Yeah, I mess around, but like, honestly, it's just like cool

to kick with guys like you, but yeah. Do you think there's video of all of this somewhere? No, I don't think so. No, because I looked a looked a little bit i mean i just mean like in a fault somewhere not online god maybe yeah yeah not on youtube that's for sure maybe disney documented in some way yeah oh yeah probably i mean but besides the specials i don't really know now i do have a very specific grad night disney story okay but it's morbid okay i was wondering about this i i had

a memory of i was i was gonna ask you but i didn't want to put you on the spot about it uh uh because um the whole idea of this by the way let me i'll back up and say this started in 1961 and it started in a morbid way because i think there was a community i forget what city in the san gabriel valley there was you know things I forget what city, in the San Gabriel Valley. There was, you know, things like this, like overnight events for high school seniors were very common. But, you know, there's the potential for people to get hurt. There's potential for drinking and driving and stuff. And I think there was a tragedy in some community.

And they started talking about, is there a way to do something that is safe and where we essentially like shake everybody down before they get in put them in a place where they can't drink um and uh you know but but in a positive way you know give everybody like a fun safe uh time and this guy jack lindquist is who that's the name that we mentioned here and there one of the like great disneyland uh old white haired guys who thought of a lot of the stuff and uh he he heard the community out and thought maybe that is a good idea hey and a way for us to make a little bit of money too even though then he had to like consult with various concerns like the sheriffs the local sheriff's department had to weigh in on can this happen and the sheriff's department told jack lindquist who wanted to do this the kids will

burn disneyland down scary shit wow but in fact they did not as we know disneyland remains open to this day the teens didn't burn it down it was a huge hit it was only one night then but it was such a massive success it expanded to all these nights now all that said the idea is for it to be a safe event but there are many ways that this can and has gone awry for which now i will throw to what i thought maybe you had loaded up yeah have you did you relearn about this or i did i was just trying to remember if it if it was in fact you or your uh your your Yeah, my stepmom, Rose, went to high school in San Diego. And they had grad night at Disneyland. And she was class of 80.

And I'm looking at the lineup here. And she's told me before. But yeah, Casey and the Sunshine Band. It says, cool in the gang. Robert John, Tantrum, The Carr Brothers. For some reason, I thought maybe Shalimar was there, but I could be misremembering.

This is a good lineup. This is good vibes, right? Did all of Grand Night go as well as the Grand Night Keep being good? I feel like Celebration came out in the 80s, so you're seeing some peak Cool and the Gang. Wow. The idea, this is a running thing, I think, that anything where Disney tries to address current pop culture, they're always seven years late.

So the fact, if we're getting Celebration the year of, if we're getting Drive Me Crazy the year of, that's kind of insane. I believe Backstreet Boys in 97. Yes. I saw that. As yet? As yet, coming off their hit cover of Hard to Say I'm Sorry by Chicago.

And I see on this other list of 97, I see also Goo Goo Dolls and Aaliyah. Wow. That's a good one. 97 slide era. Easy up the girl. I just woke up. All this other garbage you guys are talking about. They're zapping on about zap.

They're zapping on and zapping on. Dance music. Okay. We've got Art LeBeau here or something. But then, by the way, look, I don't mean to, I shouldn't come back and immediately give shit, although it's a little bit of what I do. Jason, I'm so disappointed that Black Balloon

was on your Spotify wrapped. That is so funny. That's insane. Number four? That's insane. I don't know how that happened. Jason, I'm so disappointed that Black Balloon was on your Spotify wrapped. That is so funny. That's insane. Number four? That's insane. I don't know how that happened. Well, number five. That many times on...

Wait a minute. Actually, you may have heard this on the show already or not. Kyle, do you know the song Black Balloon by the Goo Goo Dolls? I don't. Yeah. Well, but if you heard it. It's a great comeback for Scott. Yeah.

All right. Well, now play it or whatever Or sing it What do you have to do to I can't sing it well It's not I can sing it well Coming down the That's pretty good

Yeah Hear that sound As I shoot that That sounds I mean Now it sounds That also sounds like a 90s rock song That sounds like everything

The rhythm is familiar If you could only see See I got pipes too i can do i can maybe take a little 90s band show on the road we're gonna sit here and listen we're just far away from the microphone it's just copyright strikes left and right i don't want to get sued by john resnick i want him to like me i don't want want him to be mad at me. You would never. We're the only podcast that compliments his music. I don't even really like this song that much.

After all this. I like it. I'm a slide guy. People don't know it. I'm a slide guy. I'm a Broadway guy. I'm not necessarily a black balloon guy. You're not a black balloon guy, and yet you're still making us hear it. You're making Kyle hear it.

Well, you asked him if he heard it. Is there a hook? Well, he can play the chorus, but the answer is that no, there isn't a hook. I mean, I'm sure I heard it in the era, but it's not. It's really interesting. We've been fighting for a year. A lot of people are on my side, though.

It's not like I'm completely... I'm not taking a side. I'm just telling you how... Your radio station must have been weird when you were growing up. I can only live my truth. My truth... I'm not taking a side. I'm just telling you how... That's what I'm saying. Your radio station must have been weird when you were growing up. I can only live my truth. My truth is I don't know the song. I can't know the song. I can't go backwards.

Jason's listening to it so much in this year of our Lord 24. I saw number one, Black Balloon number four. That's an insane list. It was really insane. I think what happened was I kept forgetting how it went and Mike kept bringing it up so every time he would bring it up what did i bring up three times well yeah i would listen to

it i go like oh yeah this played on the like top 40 station into the 2000s out of delaware jason spotify wrapped might be like three listens each because he listens to most of his music on a victrola right yeah he's got to crank that thing. I know. His Victrola rap would be a whole different list. I know. Glenn Miller again. Sitting on the dock of the bay was number five

because I dozed off listening to it. I think it's what happened. And it was still on repeat from when i really had the song wichita lineman one of my favorite songs i love wichita lineman too that's all i love you stuck in my head so i had that on repeat and whenever i i jumped to sit or i turned it off and turned it back i don't know so the you't know. You were just looping, sitting on the dock of the bay? I still had it configured, and I... What kind of serial killer shit is that?

It wasn't intentional. It wasn't intentional. I think I was listening... Somebody was waiting for somebody to come back into the bay. Oh, that's true, yeah. You want to shoot in the head. I think I was listening to the album. Baby's black balloon makes her fly.

Baby's black balloon makes her fly. Baby's black balloon makes her fly. Well, since we're talking about Mike, I have kind of a hip lineup from Disney World in 2011. Okay, well, wait a minute. Do you want to, let's close the loop on the tragedy, and then we can swing into the happy. Oh my God, I forgot about the tragedy. Yeah, so, so, sorry.

Yes, the Wait Your Step Mom. Well, essentially, so so sorry uh uh yes the way your stepmom well essentially um uh high school senior passed away uh he um my understanding and you can read up on it if you look up grad night 80 um he was in one of the cars in the people mover and i believe he tried to walk into the car in front of him and then got run over by the car he was actually just in he got caught up on the tracks essentially and um the way my stepmom describes it is like a set you know they took buses back down to san diego that night and none of the parents knew the name of the kid who passed and so like everybody was just in in you know incredibly fearful as to oh yeah who was this child so yeah pretty dark not god but uh that's insane but they knew that something had happened but just nobody knew i But they knew that something had happened, but just nobody knew.

I think they knew that there was. Oh my God. Death, I think. That is, well, yeah, that's a, and that's so crazy your stepmom was in that class, but the like, it is a weird thing about it. Like, I don't think, we don't talk about these Disneyland deaths a ton,

but how many are there? They're like 10 to 14. Is it in that range? I don't know the number, but two of them are grad night. One of them is that and the first, and one of them is a, a monorail,

somebody trying to sneak in. Oh, really struck by the monorail. It's often these kind of like sort of more benign rides that have done the, uh, yeah, that have done the killing. Yeah.

Um, insane. That's crazy. Um, so are you against the event for that reason are you here to say they should end the event because of the capacity for danger um i just gotta uh grads are calmer now though maybe in the year 2024 yeah i mean like you know there's obviously some you know i feel for this person's family obviously yeah sure you know at the same time he

maybe like it's not the safest thing to get out of a moving vehicle yeah yeah um but uh it's very tragic but i also say that my stepmom i think can she still likes cool in the gang so it hasn't like kind of fully she didn't like that's what he was getting at so yeah we're getting at the cool in the gang so it hasn't like kind of fully she didn't if like that's what he was getting at so yeah we're getting at the cool in the game it came on at your wedding and she did not storm out of the room or drop to her knees yeah yeah no no i i mean like accidents happen right yeah yeah yeah well that's like and people like, that's, it's a funny thing throughout this that they've, like, people have still found a way to, you know, despite it aiming to be a super safe event, there's still, like, a lot of, like,land stories and they describe a story like in the mid 90s that a what's described as a very brawny high school football star uh showed up uh on acid and was just freaking the hell out and it took 16 security offer officers to bring him to the ground uh and that apparently

the the what came out of that is that now at that or any future grad nights, the Disneyland security is allowed to use handcuffs. Oh, wow. Hooray. Thanks to one enterprising football star. Are they themed handcuffs? Is there a Disney theme on them? I think you could easily put a Mickey Mouse on them. You could like...

Yeah, on each cuff with the ear. The ears are in each cuff. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's nice. That would be nice. All right. So at least you're still in the spirit, even though you're stuck in Disney jail and coming down from acid. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's nice. That would be nice. Great. So at least you're still in the spirit even though you're stuck in Disney jail

and coming down from acid. Yeah. They've described people like trying to like swim in the rivers of America and all this stuff. Like, so people still like find ways

to freak out. I mean, you're what, 17, 18? You're going to be causing trouble. Yeah. If you don't have the respect for the sacred ground that is Disneyland,

you're going to be causing trouble. Well, this is my... Oh, sorry. You don't understand. I was going to say, is Disneyland, you're going to be causing trouble. Well, this is my... I was going to say, it's like when I went to Hershey Park with the middle school chorus, like, I see these people every day. I'm not going to be at Hershey Park for a while. I want to enjoy Hershey

Park. I'm picking the super-duper-looper over you all. Like, sorry. And you're going to treat it with respect. Yeah, I'm going to treat it with respect yeah i mean treat it with the respect that's the thing that that is how i felt and that is the story of my 2003 the only strong memory i have of the 2003 one was that and i probably said this on the show but long ago but the that uh like i what i remember is that like there was a group of girls the like the girls in the venn diagram of like they were the coolest girls who were willing to talk to me ever and uh so i was

always like i and the kind of girls who like throughout high school is always like you know varying degrees of crushes but then like i never like you know i was always like why didn't why didn't it happen for me with any of them or And then now I know the answer, which is that at grad night, they like, at some point, they like lifted their shirts to show that they had like taped various drugs and pharmaceuticals to their person. And even though I'm a high school senior at this point, I was 17. That was the year that I started drinking. And I started, you know, very performatively pretending that i like smoking pot but i like so i'm like past i'm like i'm starting to drink i'm starting to do drugs but i still fucking square me at 17 is still like a disneyland though have you know like disneyland gives you a high in and of itself and why would you need that did that

so then were you no longer crushing on them? it's not that I was no longer for me it just answered the question of like I was like you know how come it never worked out for me and I was like the reason it never worked out is because I am so fucking uptight I'm such a god damn square that even though I drink

and kind of do drugs the idea of having drugs in disneyland at that point yeah made me like hot in the face i was so and i just walked away like i well i don't know about that look there's fun but then there's a little bit too fun that that i like i'm just like how could i why could i not have mellowed out at that time why did i need to why was i wound that tight this is the closest this is the closest i've ever felt to you because i the perspective of my 30s was like oh why didn't we end up ever why didn't it ever work out it's like oh i was neurotic and annoying and square and mouthy i i mean everyone back where i grew up was very mouthy so that actually probably should have

been a bonding thing that's yeah no i'm with you i will let's listen to wichita lineman and kind of like think about regrets and we'll you know we'll have a moment on this later i listened to it i think about glenn campbell wandering through the tall grass under the monorail track oh that's right disney world opening i don't know that he's singing that. I wanted to compare that experience, though, to you, Kyle, who my sense is that you were not me at that time. You were not an uptight square like

Scott Gardner at 17. Had you done one of these, what do you do? Are you taping drugs to your chest? Are you trying to sneak in like you're trying to do the vodka in the water bottle as portrayed in Y2K? Or is that just a work of fiction? There was a sort of Christian group that other schools but like there was also like you

know a sort of religious underlying component okay and to one of those dances i remember like getting fucked up before so getting drunk before i don't need to say the f word like that's actually not cool um you're you're you're a square now but now that you're not cool you're a square now now that you're a day but like I got caught by the main guy and I got kicked out and then like do you remember the name of the organization

was it like some teen term I do I feel bad throwing them under the bus but like I got so I had to like leave the venue and like I went in my friend's car and like I just started crying because I was like,

I don't believe I kicked out. And then like I think some other people found out that I was crying and they started kind of clowning on me. So is that the, that you are like, you were like, you were like kind of further along

in terms of comfort with that kind of thing with get with getting effed up but you also your thing was like hiding the sensitive side and hiding the anxiety yeah i mean oh yeah i think i well i'm not sure that i'm answering that this fully accurately but like i will say that i think that was a moment where like i tried something like that and i tried to be a bad boy and i knew i was actively breaking the rules and like if if for instance that occurred prior to me going to disneyland grad night i would have i would avoid it i i would be like nervous to do something sketchy like that because like if you are caught

like you're fucked you can't hang out for the rest of the night yeah right there was i read a story in that book also about like somebody who came in to the park with a like a with like a big film canister like what should i hold 35 millimeter film for photos uh but they there was a couple and neither of them had a camera so security's like what's up with that they open it up uh full of something or other and then they have to sit on the bus the whole night that would not be what you you might want to forego hey at any day if you're graduating high school soon and you listen to podcast the ride first of all i'm sorry for wherever wherever you're at socially but secondly you know you might want to be careful anyway

or just or try to like pre-game it yeah that would be the nightmare like sure the succeeding and then you're you're having fun you're you're effed up at disneyland but then yeah the sitting on the bus is so not worth the yeah yeah especially like i didn't realize schools in San Diego are going, I watched some vlogs on YouTube of people who are college freshmen now when this year, when they graduated in the spring to grad night. And they're like, we have to get to the high school to park at 5 a.m. And then we will not be back until 4 30 the next morning oh yeah because it's a two hour each way and it's like i think groups come in from sacramento and stuff like there's versions of this where you leave on a bus in the morning spent stay on the bus go all night to disneyland and then come right back and there's no overnight sleep anywhere. That's intense. I had heard various stories about naughty, naughty at grad night.

A past guest of this show has told us stories about sneaking cigarettes into tampon wrappers. Is it Marissa Strickland? Yeah. That's why I brought it up. That was probably one of the first 10 episodes. Because I would have been 18. And a clever way to do it, too.

Yeah, no one's looking in there. But the better story, the even better story, I had heard someone who went in the 70s. This woman and her friend went with some guys, and pretty quickly they ditched the guys and just shared a joint on the sky buckets. Just shared a joint on the skyway. That's not bad.

Now, it's a different substance, but it's very much like former President Barack Obama also smoking on the skyway. Getting kicked out. That was just cigarettes. Yep. Did you know that? Obama got kicked out of Disneyland for smoking. I did not know that obama got kicked out of disneyland for smoking i did not know that when he went when he was in college yes when he was at occidental right college and um he said security was very nice and they said uh you're welcome back anytime but you have to leave now all right all right i showed you a picture of my

lanyard when i from when I worked at Disneyland. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah. You brought this up on the show before, right? That you're like brief spell working at Disneyland. I was there for, yeah. That you like just didn't show up. I never even made it to my first day.

You didn't do one shift. I was so afraid of the popcorn machine. Is that what you were assigned to? Popcorn cart? I was assigned to, it was like general, like vendor. So you could, you don't, you didn't know.

You could get the churro, you could get the popcorn, you could get like glow toys. But the guy went through the popcorn stuff so fast. I'm like, well, I don't remember what he fucking said.

I was like nervous. I was going to have to go up there. Right. And I was going to burn myself. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. Yeah.

Yeah. I'd be scared of that today. That. And I was going to burn myself. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. Yeah. Yeah. I'd be scared of that today. That's too real of a piece of machinery. I'm scared of like, I don't have a popcorn machine in my house. No. That like burn, like getting the oil going, that's scary. No, thank you. Yeah.

Yeah. The kind of things my parents used. I heard all Jason's food service stories and it put me off of it forever. Jason spilling sauce when he was carrying it. Spilling sauce, stabbing myself. The scar I still have with a prime rib, no, a roast beef thing. Where's your roast beef scar?

It's right here. Oh yeah. Because I was slicing and just bam. We've seen it but Kyle hasn't gotten to see the roast beef scar. Show Kyle your roast beef scar. Hard to see. Maybe it healed. We're under theatrical lights. I think it's right there. There's a little white mark right there on my left hand.

I said Kyle seems unimpressed. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. No, I'm speaking for you. Because you've got to wear like a chain mail glove, but it was right underneath where the glove stopped. Jason, I'm not playing right now. That is the best roast beef scar I've ever seen in my life.

Like truly, I'm not playing right now. That is the best roast beef scar I've ever seen in my life. Truly, I'm like, damn, that really was roast beef. Yeah. They had to throw out the whole round of roast beef. They had a lot more, thankfully. Because all Jason's blood was all over it. Yeah, yeah.

I was playing. They had to scrub down the whole station. And you were wearing the Falconer's gloves still, too? I was wearing, it was right underneath where the gloves stopped. And that was wearing the Falconer's glove still too? I was wearing, it was right underneath where the glove stopped. And like, that was another thing where they're

like, you're gonna work this station, here's how you do it, see ya. Scary. Yeah. Yeah, that is scary. Podcasts are great because they help us make the most out of our routine. We learn about the fall of the Ottoman Empire while we drive, keep up with news while we take the dog for a walk, or turn

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I know. I started something. I don't know. That's on me. I make my own choices. Barack Obama's Chum Gang. Remember the Chum Gang? That was his crew he ran with in Hawaii.

I've never heard that in my life. Never heard the Chum Gang. Back to the obscure Jason references. The guys who ran around and said the F word. It was just a joke. They would call, they were just his buddies, I think, in Hawaii.

I don't know, but Fox News jumped on it and we're like, well, Obama and his new Chum Gang are at it in Washington. We were just on Mike saying we got to wrap this up soon. Yeah, I know. We can't get into Chum Gang right now. Chum is slang for smoking marijuana.

I looked it up. Oh, okay. So we are not your Chum Gang, Scott and I. No, no, no. No mistake. I like that song, but I'm not in your tune game. What I was going to say is another thing that people try to do and probably unsuccessfully was kind of do a little buried treasure with booze during the day. You or somebody you know and trust goes to Disneyland, buries beer or liquor or whatever

it is, maybe in the rivers of America. You do a little X marks the spot. It's like a day before scenario. Yeah, or day of, potentially. You try to sneak booze in somehow that you can uncover during grad night, and now you're set for the evening. I'm like, this is a smart group of people. This is a group of people who all like to drink at Disneyland.

Do we feel like we could figure out a successful way? And also, this seems like a mic challenge. Do you think we could figure out a successful way and also this seems like a mic challenge yeah do you think we could figure out a successful way if if some teens asked you and said well hey you are you cool or not and that would light the fire under you I think to prove that you are and the way that you could prove that you're cool is to bear is to hide booze at Disneyland during the day that they could enjoy a grad night do we think we could figure out a way to do it yes I'd be conflicted because I'd want to prove to them i was cool because it's an eternal problem i feel insecurity um but yes i would also be a little worried that i would get in trouble yeah

but yes easily we could figure out where to do it i immediately think of somewhere in grizzly peak it's a real quiet back there it's a that's true. Yeah, it's a little quiet. Grizzly Challenge Trail. Yes. Something over there. But that might not be open for kids. That might be a kid's area that is not really open for... Yeah, but then sometimes they can theme it for Halloween party. I don't know. If it's not open, then I can pivot here.

California Adventure is a lot of pavement, a lot of open space. Yeah, I think you could go digging around there. You'd find an obscure spot and a planter. You'd have to do it in a way where you got to count rocks rocks right like start the bend because i'm not we're not going to mark it because that'll draw attention to it but maybe it's like all right so it's the 42nd rock yeah as you as you head up east on the trail has toontown open in this scenario i know that toontown at least was it was open for aaron's grad night she remembers getting to go on gadgets go coaster three times in a row so And that was a fond memory.

Nice. So I think it might be. Yeah. I think Toontown is, I think somewhere in Toontown is the place. Yeah, sure. Any thoughts?

In the new, does the new grass scenario change things? In the back of it, there's a little cave area and it's a very nice place. Now, a lot of people go there and there's a bunch of rocks.

And I bet you could even put like a bag that looks like, because people are always back there. So if you just have a a bag sitting by benches it's always going to seem like somebody there's bag and maybe or you could also like maybe if if like we're talking bottles of beer sure vodka or tequila put a little funny cartoony label on it like three x's or something oh yeah like now it's just part of now you think it's think it's like, it's a prop at Goofy's gas station or whatever. Go to Mickey's kitchen. On your way in Mickey's house, get a cartoon jug of moonshine and put it on his kitchen table.

Oh, my God. Yeah, that's really good. Oh, Kyle's got it, I think. Yeah, you just have to be like bulbous enough. And you got to like be careful with the writing. You can't just like take a Sharpie. You got to get your friend who writes the best. Yeah, you got to.

This is where I would deploy Aaron for this if she wanted to get in on this game really good penmanship i think she could do like perfect cartoony triple x on something yeah that would be good and that you know it has to have like some bulge to it you put that in oh my god and then it's right and it's hiding in plain sight that's what you got to do is yeah you'd have to put it up maybe elevated so kids wouldn't grab like maybe on top of the fridge or something like there would be a place somewhere in the back that you could probably put it in part of his house and no way whoever like is kind of in charge day to day of mickey's kitchen right there's no way that person knows what all the stuff is they don't pay that much attention yeah yeah i bet i bet you'd be fine

that's it that's it we got it and then what And then what are you putting in there? If you're trying to make- Imagine that- Piss? Oh, man. And then after all that- Bite to piss. Oh, okay. That's good.

That's a mixed bag. It's a bit of a punishment, but how bad do you want to get fucked up? Let's see. If it was 2003 and I was 18- Yeah, what are you drinking then? I think we were- Well, we were into screwdrivers, vodka and orange juice. Right.

Nice. So if you can, if we have access to sodas, I would say just make it a liquor and then we can like maybe do a little mix and match. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds great. I would love to, I'd love right now to go split a cartoon jug of screwdrivers with y'all.

Yeah. It doesn't. That'd be great. That's the next thing we got last time was the Buffalo wild wings. You had big revelations last time. What, what do you get? What's going to occur to you over a big jug of screwdrivers?

you know, when we started, I said, we could get a drink out of this. And you guys said you have somewhere to go. That is, wait, has the episode.

Okay. Here's what I'll say the episode yeah that is lame that we we like you propose getting a drink and we can't because we have to go do something that there's going to be an episode about i think the next second gate that comes out so when you see the title of the next second gate know that it's what prevented us from grabbing a drink with kyle and you will be disappointed for us that we had to choose this. Because we're already in the tank. It's something we bought tickets for.

Oh, my God. What are we doing? We can put something on the books. Yeah. Let's do it in the future. Yeah, yeah. We'll schedule it. Is there a way?

Yeah. How do you make it helpful to what you guys, your art? Oh, the hangout. It doesn't have to be. You mean using it for content anything can be content anything can be content especially there's a bunch of new garbage at city walk let's just go up there or we could go to a place for grown-ups i don't know but the hello kitty cafe looks very cute a lot of things you want to get fucked up with us at the hello

kitty cafe yeah do they have booze no no they have sugar but we but if we bring in our own little cartoon jug of screwdrivers i mean and how kitty is not a cat no she's a little english child in a costume right that's the canon of yeah that's the canon of it yeah canon oh i didn't know that okay that felt like all right that was probably a good end, but we probably have a couple more. All right, what were you going to say? Well, I was going to say my solution for the booze, which I'd be too scared to do because nowadays it's immediately a suspicious object.

They just call it the bomb squad or counterterrorism. But the planters scattered throughout Tomorrowland, you could probably cover some airplane by size bottles of liquor oh yeah like some nips i've heard them called nips nips yeah yeah you could probably put some soil or yeah that's mulch over those little guys and just say like okay go over sit on the ledge i don't think it's a spoiler i can't not say it that a say it. And if listeners or anyone ever gets to see the project that I was just out directing, nips is a giant component. Is that right? I had no idea.

Nips is a major element of what I was just doing. Well, we had a conversation about nips when I was here. Did we? Did we? And you said the word nips? Yeah, because I had a bottle with me. Oh, yeah. And I was like, you want to take a nip?

Oh, right. That's right. Wait a minute. Here I am acting like I never heard the term nips. Nips was on that episode? That's crazy. You're probably right. You showed up with a one-third bottle full of rye. Whiskey. We're not going to talk about it.

That was before the mirror. That was a different Kyle. Yeah. What were we going were you gonna say about bands oh lineups i know because we yeah we gotta wrap it up there's so many great it's very quick okay i thought you would appreciate this the disney world lineup the last full year yeah at the magic kingdom uh you have ryan star i don't know who that is american idol person yeah maybe um they're the band called I don't know how to pronounce this,

3-0-H exclamation. Oh, 3-0-3. 3-0-3. They did a song with Kesha. Yeah, yeah. My first guess. Tayo Cruz. Tayo Cruz?

Yeah. Yeah. And then Pete Wentz. Solo Pete Wentz. Solo Pete Wentz. You said this was for me because he's from... Because it's all very hip. Because you're cool.

I feel like this is hip music. He's from the town over where I grew up. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yes, we played the same shitty... My band... Not the same show as him, but the same shitty place.

Wait, what's the name of your band again? Second Level. Second Level played... Second Level played Back to the Office, which is a place that Fall Out Boy

would play as well. Wow. And when I told Pete Wentz this one time, he could have cared less. You had a moment to tell that to Pete Wentz and it didn't resonate at all? He wasn't mean or anything. What's that? When did you meet Pete Wentz? I did a live read of some old movie at UCB Sunset and Pete Wentz was involved in it as well.

And he wasn't rude, by the way. He was perfectly fine. Oh, okay. I mean, I'm sure people... Is it something random, like snakes on a plane? It was something random. Okay.

Did you go up to him and go like, hey, you know, Fall Out Boy is actually from The Sims? Did you know that? Did I tell him the reference he was making for his band? Does he... He might not know.

I think he knows. I'm kidding. It's actually not a catch. No. he was making for his band? Does he? He might not know. I think he knows. Drop our yellow kitty. It's actually not a cat. Yeah. And my thing on the way out the door, in the lineup thing, the best one, for me,

the one I'm chasing a thousand percent, 1984, Daz Band, Matthew Wilder, break, nobody gonna break on my stride.

Oh, right, yeah. Who did the songs from Mulan later. Right. Weird Al, apparently, some nights, on one particular night cheap trick good era for cheap trick too coming off a todd runger produced album and every night 84 sparks that is that is the grand night of my dreams i'm looking at it i'm looking at a schedule that's like it's they trade on and off they're at

the space stage where Halix played before. Alternating. And at 4am, Sparks. And at 2.45am, Cheap Trick. Jesus Christ. I want to be at that so bad. And Desmond. Desmond, I think, would play where Fantasmic is now. They would play across the river. That is the lineup.

I want to be there sharing a jug with you guys so bad. Well, let it wap now. I feel like I'm sorry about the copyright stuff. No, that's fine. It's a short window. We cannot give you a new thing to be regretting. That can't happen every time. You need to be regret-free after this episode.

We got to come out of here feeling great. I definitely got regret. Well, then you know what? Let's see you out with a hero's exit, and hopefully as much of a regret-free exit as we can do. And I'm so happy to say, Kyle Mooney, you survived Podcast The Ride. Let's exit through the gift shop, because I know you got something to plug.

You got an effing movie out right now. It's a great movie. I'll say before you say anything about it if you're not sick of talking about it do you want to say something about y2k y2k yeah it's about uh two high schoolers who go to a party and at midnight y2k actually happens and for those of us all of all of us were alive when y2k happened it It was pretty much a major letdown, so to speak. Yeah. And this movie sort of rewrites that history.

And I would say there are some laughs, hopefully, and there are some scares. I was going to say those things and put the word hard in front of both. Hard laughs, hard scares, good kills, not to spoil anything. It goes hard. Maybe it pulls your heartstrings at moments.

It a thousand percent does. It's so great. I've seen this movie. Thanks, buddy. This is a great movie. Scott helped me out. He gave me some great notes early in the process. And yeah, we're really proud of it.

So if you can, depending on when you're listening to this, go check it out. Yeah, see it in theaters. It is worth seeing in theaters because the turns. I'm happy I got to experience these things in front of an audience because there's huge, great, funny, exciting stuff that happens. It turned out so great. Thanks, buddy. I hope you're super proud, as you should be. And the episode, equally proud?

How are you feeling at this point? It got dark there for a second and like i'm like i don't know how people feel about you know but that's truth it's life yeah yeah we we we dealt with it in an okay way right i think so i think so no i think it was respectful acknowledge you said good things about the family i think all bases i think everything was good yeah i think everything was respectful, acknowledged. You said good things about the family. I think all bases covered. I think everything was good. Yeah, I think everything was very good. Yeah, well then, yeah. I'm feeling great. I think we could maybe punch up the Hello Kitty restaurant place

and maybe go somewhere else. Yeah, I think it's probably another option. I'm not married to it. But do you want it to be the kind of stupid shit we do or should we all go to a bar for adults? Let's text about it. Let's figure it out. I'm kind about it. Let's figure this out. Okay, great.

We will solve this. As for us, three bonus episodes every month at Podcast The Ride The Second Gate. One more bonus episode on our VIP tier Club 3. You'll find all of that at patreon.com slash podcast the ride. One more main feed next week. I'll kind of talk about some more stuff and what I was doing while I was gone. And really quick, Y2K thing on the way out the door. It's Y2K Eve at Disney World.

It's December 31st, 1999. You have a choice of what you could do. Everybody vote. I was like, I wonder what you could do on Y2K Eve. And the options are pretty good. One is Disney MGM Studios. You see Cheap Trick, Youngstown, whatever that is. Oh, right.

And LFO, the light, funky ones themselves. Or you go to Pleasure Island, rebranded for that night only, PI2000. I mean. And at Pleasure Island, you see Hootie and the Blowfish, B-52s, and Sticks. Pick your path. Where are we going? It was going to be a hard top cheap trick, but the combo of those three. I watched the set.

You can watch it on YouTube. It's a very good trick. They do downs. They do a very good version of downs. The combination of those three and the name PI2000, I think would push me. Yeah, PI2000, I think, wins. Yeah, I got it. PI2000.

Yeah. Wait, that was the one. That's Hootie B-52 sticks. Yeah, that's a cool lineup. That's a good one. Another one. God, I want to cool lineup. That's a good one. Another one. God, I want to do all these things. Jealous.

What's that thing that the guys that say in the Facebook group about Pleasure Island? The wistful thing? Man, tonight would have been a great night at Pleasure Island. And tonight would have been a great night if we didn't have to go do this dumb thing and we could get Margs with Kyle. I know. Oh, well, we'll figure it out soon enough. Forever Dog.

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