Podcast: The Ride - Disneyland Handcrafted

Episode Date: January 30, 2026

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Warning, the following podcast may contain casual danger. 50's lunch analysis. New footage of old dirt. And a bunch of guys doing manual labor and dress slacks. All that. Plus, we watched the new movie about Disneyland's construction, Disneyland Handcrafted, on today's podcast, The Ride. Welcome to Podcast The Ride, a podcast that's not.

Not handcrafted by three men, but mouthcrafted. Podcast the ride is mouthcrafted by three older men. My name is Mike Carlson. Joining me as always, Jason Sheridan. Yeah, you were concerned we had used the phrase mouthcrafted before, and I don't think you have to worry about that. Okay, good, because I just wanted to make sure. Scott Gerdner is here.

Yeah, right before you started, you said you were worried that I had made that joke before, but I don't know how it had been an episode that's not about Disneyland Handcrafted, unless mouth craft was somehow previously. But how much do you really craft with your mouth? Other than if you're, how do you make a little, there's something you can make a little bow out of if you know your way around your own tongue correctly. I just think of it.

What is that? Cherry stem? There you go. Thank you. You can tie it? You can do that? You can do that? You never done it for our audience's amusement?

Not just the tongue. It's a lot of the teeth. Oh. Well, that's the secret. That's the secret. People are trying to do it. I'm a dope thing and you can do it with just your tongue. You do have to use your tongue a lot, but I think if you grab it with your teeth.

Teeth provide kind of like the resistance and the... Yeah, yeah. I don't want to steal valor from people who can do it just with the tongue. But there'd be no way to prove it because you'd have to put a little camera in there. And then once the camera's in there, you got less room to do your cherry bows. So I don't think there's any way to prove it. I think teeth are perfectly valid. I'm revealing the secret, I guess.

People out there are probably mad at me. I'm the mass magician telling how... But what I want to do, I'm not trying to ruin anything for anyone. I'm trying to spread the love of cherry bows so that future generations can pass them on to future generations from them. Yeah. Are there cherry bow tire purists who believe it should only be done with the tongue and not teeth? Mike, I honestly don't know. I'm just trying to get ahead of it.

He was getting ahead of the idea. There could be maybe there aren't, but just in case, because you never know, you never know with these things who you run afoul of, the subcultures. that you might make angry. Yeah. And, you know, I feel like I just made a mad calling them a subculture. Right. You consider yourself the primary culture if you do cherry bows with just tongue and no teeth. You're the culture.

That is culture. Yeah. Well, that's great. I'm glad we're very clear about how we feel and what we're worried about right now because we could get a big backlash right away. And I'm sorry for doing that with the joke. I didn't know. You let us right into an area. I led right into the thorniest bush possible.

The concern was not that the joke had been before. The concern is that we'd all be canceled. Right. So, wow, okay. So Jason uses teeth and tongue for cherry-stim-tie. And I would like to see you do this. I would like to see. I know. When was the last time you did it? I know. I don't know. I don't know. I'm trying to figure out, you know, shockingly, I don't eat as many marasino cherries as you would think of. By the way, that is shocking to me. That is shocking. That is true. But like the, it almost usually typically only get one on top. So that, you're not, you're not. You're not. You're not. You're. You know, you. You're. You're. You know, You're maybe implying a scenario where you've cleared two Sundays, thus. I mean, that's not the only way to eat two Mirashino cherries, but it's, well, it's just something I assume happens is more than one Sunday. Well, in the past, they've been in cocktails, but I think they usually take the stem on.

Usually going stemless, yeah. That depends. Shirley Temple, sometimes you get a little stem in there. You get two cherries, two cherries to. Oh, that's, yeah, that's because the children who are drinking the Shirley temples might want more cherries. Yeah, the children. The drink made for children might want the cheese.

Right. But if you're not drinking a drink for children. Right. But Jason has a Shirley Temple for breakfast every day. Yeah. He wakes up and has a Shirley. He mixes like an avocado and a banana into it. But other than that, it's...

Sure. It's got a little more nutrients than that. But anyway, Ben Stiller has a new Shirley Temple soda, of course. Stiller soda. No, I think this came up before. Yeah. I forget why. Well, I don't know.

I know why, because it's you. Yeah, because we're interested in soda flavors and different brands. And I haven't tried it. And I'm not even, I'm not drinking that much soda right now. So I may never try it. What are you doing? What you've wasted listener week after listener. Both of you are withholding great cherry content.

You're not doing your ties. You're not reviewing the sodas. I would, I'll review it. For the podcast, I'll review it. And I will try to tie a cherry stem with my tongue. That too. I'll try. And my teeth.

With assistance of teeth is what we do. I will use my teeth as well. That is the hack. Yeah. Anyway, so today on Podcast the Ride, we're not going to be doing cherry content the whole show. No. We're going to be doing some content on a new movie, a new film that was released on Disney Plus and on YouTube. Yes.

I watched it on YouTube. Yeah. Was there a choice? The reason you watched on YouTube? Yeah, it was the reason I watched on YouTube because I have YouTube premium with no ads. And then I have the cheapy Disney Plus with ads. I see. I guess I got ads when I was watching on Disney Plus.

So I guess I have the ads Disney Plus. It's hard to know because sometimes they just throw ads into your tier and you didn't notice for any of these streaming services. Yes. Oh, yes, that's true. And then the ad list becomes the added. Yeah. And you don't even get the warning and you pay the same price. I believe that I have opted for the no ads because I've got a kid who throw a shit fit if there was an ad.

So that's really what? There's like a hostage situation. You don't have that problem? Um, it, yeah, to some degree we do. But now lately my daughter's been saying, I love ads. Yeah, I liked ads a lot when I was a kid. I like commercials. For the first, you know, I did too.

Yeah, yeah. We all love our toy ads. Yeah. Our fast food ads and whatever from growing up. For the first three years of her life, she would have a fit if something was an ad would play in the middle of a show. Yeah. And it's less of a problem.

But sometimes she'll still say like, fix this. Like she'll like get rid of this or whatever. This is, it's just like, if it were. the kinds of ads that we got during Nickelodeon, I'd say fine. And maybe my son would love the ads as well. But at this point in time, I don't know if I've bemoan this before, but I'm constantly seeing ads for children's hospitals, which I think they just hear that, like, hear me saying, children, children who are in my house. Babies, babies, kids. I say these words and they're like, better give them ads about dying children. Better bum him out. Yeah. This also is why I don't do YouTube premium

why I do YouTube Premium at this point. But also, my biggest fear at this point is like we're watching a bluey compilation and then all of a sudden join ICE. Yeah. Which does happen. Pluto gave me a... Pluto showed an Ice ad.

I know. It's insane. Not in my house. I know. Yeah, it's really interesting because sometimes the algorithm or whatever, the voice overhears you saying stuff and targets it right to your family, exactly what you're talking about. And then sometimes it's just a wild swing like that

where you're like, how precise is this? And which ad, is it like the first ad is the one that's targeted because it's been listening to us? And the second one is just a random one that's been targeted to the area or is it all just like it's not that precise of a system maybe. Yeah, yeah. I heard this guy complaining about ice. Better show.

I guess he wants ads for ice. He must want this. Yeah. Whereas I imagine what you might be referring to is like, Hello, do you live in the Burbank area near the smokehouse? Are you interested in seeing rock and roll music performed by somebody north of 90? Then come on down and see Jimmy Angel. A waste of money.

They know I'm, they've got me already. You've been targeted. Mike's ads are all. Come visit the rock and roll hall of fame. Beautiful Ohio. I've got, well, okay, real quick, two stories about that. Number one, my dad has been searching old newspaper clippings to find more information about Jimmy Angels history because he's also very.

intrigued. Wow. He's going into archives. He's going into archives. Going into Lexis, Nexus, searching for Jimmy Angel. And then number two,

my daughter's current favorite song is Cleveland Rocks, the theme to the Drew Carey show. That's a funny. Totally accidental just came up on random. And she was like, what is this? And she goes play dis again. You know what's funny?

I've put that on for no reason. I don't particularly love the show. I don't particularly love the band. But I think that that opening sequence is so, exuberant and well done. I think they all are. I think that five o'clock world in the Drew Carey show when they threw money down.

Yeah. They made some ambitious stuff. Yeah. So, and I never really, I watched it a little bit. I was never that into it. I like Drew Carey. I like all the people on the show.

But yeah, it just popped up randomly. I've never played it. I've never like searched it and played it. It came up and she was just like, whoa. What is this? Wow. So we have videos over yelling,

Cleveland Rocks. Cleveland Rocks. Jeez. You very quickly found two things in your life that are very much related to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I guess you're going to have to go. Yeah, fine. It's the first big family trip. Sure.

You should take your daughter to the Rock and Roll. She loves to rock. She's got it in her DNA. It's true. But yeah, she did not watch this Disneyland handcrafted documentary with me. I tried to get her into it. She was not interested. This is the play.

This is the place that we go, presented in an ambient way with a lot of sort of Philip glassy music that's not rock and roll per se but it's not as fun as the president's the United States of America but it's something

you got any in here? No, bored. Okay, bye. This is the jungle crews. Look at it. They're making it. That's when they made it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Back to running around. Can you say Admiral Joe Fowler? Now, if it was you at three years old, Admiral Joel Fowler. That's a different story. Harper Groff failed mouth, but he had to track the items. You would be like, play that again,

and it was just like an old man talking about painting something. Play that part again, mommy. Play that part again. I want to see the big construction equipment going at very weird, dangerous angles. I think if you watched this as a three-year-old, I think you'd have like kind of a perennial lifelong fascination with 60 year old shirtless men. Oh yeah.

Let me wait. Let me keep clarifying. 60 year old not in shape shirtless men. Yeah. That's really what that's that's really that's truly the star of the document. They should like have a star list at the beginning and it's Walt Disney and then a cavalcade of 200 out of shape shirtless men. But the out of shape is interesting because I bet they could like bench press a bunch. I bet they're very strong, but perhaps they're not traditionally.

They're not like toned in the way that you think of now. And you think of somebody that's like really in shape. Yeah, yeah. Well, you look, you watch them achieve things. Right. You know, they're, yeah. I have no question about their ability to lift, lift beams, ride on beams. I really don't.

Again, the other big star. I say this, I'm not trying to spoil. I'm just, I'm trying to like tantalize. If you haven't seen the documentary, if you aren't too interested in the documentary, well, have I told you that there's out of shape shirtless men? Yeah. Who also are very strong? Have I told you that there's a lot of beam riding? Yeah.

It's like basically Walt Disney plus Thunder from Down Under, but not as traditional attractive bodies, you know? If you can consider, that's a big minus of Thunderdown. Because it's minus Australian and it's minus fit. Yeah. So what really is left? You're saying shirtlessness? And men? Yeah, sure, Liz is in men, mostly.

Those are part of the list. Okay, you know I went Thunder and Down Under. They're wearing like skimpy, like, speedos. Well, what if you saw some 60-year-old men from 70 years ago wearing the biggest trousers you've ever seen? It's very true as well. Everything's like, you know, like, hey, like they go to the store and like, what do I fit in? I'd say you're a large. What I would recommend is an extra, extra large.

Why? I don't know, just to give, just to air it out down there. Make your pants a real parachute. Shorts seemingly have not been invented yet. Oh, I don't think so. Yeah. That was, that was joke. Only if there. No, no, no, but I think you're right. I didn't see any shorts in this.

A lot of shirtlessness, but no shorts. It's like only if, only if pants were torn by accident by construction gear. Only scuba divers. Okay, I do have thoughts on shorts. There's a brief. I have questions about what someone, someone guy is wearing. I have it written in my notes. I don't think any of our observations are going to be about Disneyland or the rides, are they?

I think we're entirely in the realm of men's fashion, men's bodies. Maybe Jason has some, but I have something. Well, well, well, there is a new documentary where Walt takes big steps in his big pants like we've seen a million times. But when I suggest there's a new epic universe documentary. Oh, he's going to take us the task. to an episode about... When I suggest I am greeted with silence that I was like, this is so silent,

I'm going to send a text about raising Keynes opening because I feel like... This guy nurses a... Well, well, well. He's allowed to air his grievances on the show. I welcome Jason's grievances. Okay, hold on a second. I want to say to the audience,

if you know what we're talking about, This is a sort of a found footage documentary real quick. We'll get into this one second. So Leslie IWorks, I guess, went to the archives, put together a very ambient, as you were saying, collection of things about Disneyland's construction. Yes. Footage that we have not particularly seen and that hasn't been particularly packaged and it's brought together in this kind of elevated area. Yes.

With narration, with narration, but you never see the people unless it's from that time period. And also we should say shockingly good footage, like clear as day. Cleaned up a lot. Very clean. Yes. She did a lot of that. So I think what Jason is referring to is that this is very, it's kind of a sleepy documentary. Is that what you're saying in some way?

Oh, no, no. I like the documentary a lot. I thought it was a pretty like, um, tasteful and like eloquent way to do it. Okay. Mike, it's, yeah, it's sleepy. Let's, let's be, I'll back you up on that. I'm not saying. It's bad, but it's...

Well, it's... It's where you're at. It's like a meditation, a guided meditation. But I'm assuming I haven't watched the Epic Universe one, which I guess we got to get to it now, now that it's been coming up on the show. Well, keep explaining. What he does require his explanation.

You're saying that there was an Epic Universe thing. So there was a three-part thing on Peacock. And like this, I mean, it's a little bit of myth-making. The Epic Universe one certainly advertising. But it's interesting in the... that like it shows a lot of like stuff not working right uh which you get a little of this too but also you get a very frank like jstein at the towards the end of his life talking about trying to get the originally universal sara open like and odd too coincidental he passes away and then

and they put the documentary out a few days later. So it's a little spooky seeing this guy. Okay. Because he's on camera. He, he like died on a Sunday and the documentary came out on like a Monday or Tuesday. Well, yeah. And it had been delayed a lot because of the Sardos Racer's incident.

Look, I'm willing to do it. I'm willing to do it. I guess we, do you want us to do it? Is that what you're for? I think it's not. Well, I think, I mean, it might be a little sleepy. If I didn't respond, maybe it's because sometimes I find recap the episodes to be a tad dry. I know.

But you aren't. This guy ain't afraid a dry play. This guy will do dry play all day. Yeah. I'm afraid, but also there's some famous people in it. There's some directors and actors that it's like, it's. Can you imagine? Some of Hollywood's biggest stars?

Sir, Hollywood's biggest directors? Can you give us a little tease? The initials SS. Could it be the initials, SS? It could be the initials of SS, but also the name Vin Diesel talking about storytelling, you know? Well, look, that's fine. That actually sounds too exciting for me because I'll be honest with you. This is the type of Disneyland content I like because I like to watch people just walk around Japan on YouTube.

Okay, sure. So this wasn't sleepy enough for me. I see. I wanted a longer, sleepier situation. You want it without the narration and the interviews. from the time. You just want raw footage. You don't want them to have edited it.

What you want to be is Leslie Iworks sifting through the footage. Yes. And then you want to have sifted and then say, this is it. Publish. I want the get back length version of this. That is just a slow walk down Main Street. And you just can sit there and like veg out and imagine you're back in time. So your note for Jason would be get us the raw footage of epic ride.

and then we'll do. That's what I'd like. Wait, let me watch all the raw takes. If there's a 12-hour cut of epic ride, then I'm more interested in walking the grounds or whatever. So, yeah, I was, while music that either sounds like explosions in the sky, the soundtrack of Friday Night Lights, or some music sounds to me like when the Avengers are planning to take down Thanos

and it's very heavy. You're still sticking with Thanos? All these years later, we're sticking with Thanos. You mean it's a reference? That's the pronunciation. Oh, what is it in the movie? Thanos. I know this.

Isn't it? Am I crazy? I've heard both. I've heard both. I think you say that every time you say something weird. Well, I can't. I'm not a right. My guy's back in the movie.

We're doing Epic Universe. That's right. I'm not a reliable source because I just read the name. Thanos for years and years and years. So whatever the name they say in the movies, it's completely out of my brain. I see. It doesn't even. Oh, yeah.

Well, I don't pay. attention to the movie pronunciation. It's also like I cannot, even though they call him Razal Ghul and everything now, I, on the original show, it's called Raichal Ghul, and I can't call him the other thing. So I always call it, no. It's burned in my brain. In the cartoon?

The cartoon is Rayshalgoal. No, it's the other way around. It's Raysalgul in the cartoon and Rausel gruel in the movie. I think you just actually said two different pronunciations. Rasha gruel. Yes. It's, it's, it's Rashgar. In Batman's Bill and Raschgris. His name is rash guard, yeah.

And Batman begins in any media since it's been Razal Ghul. And then in Batman, the enemy industry was it was Rayshalgoal. I don't know if that's right. I would have been a million dollars. Because I always said Razelgul growing up. Well, I'm just telling you what's a fact. You do seem confident about this one. Then again, it's the guy who says Thanos.

Sure, fair enough. Frank Marshall spoke it. We're all going to have to learn because King Thanos from another, you know, maybe the ride. I'll go on the ride 30 times. ride. I'll go on the ride 30 times and then I'll finally say Thanos. The ride, which very funny, the more and more comes at, like, I had watched a recap of like everything we know about that stuff coming to Avengers campus and I probably just miss this

the first time out. It's like, oh, they're essentially using a version of their version of the Spider-Man, Amazing Adventure Spider-Man ride vehicle and Scott Trowbert's just working on the project. So it's like, okay, now I'm excited. Oh, I thought you're going to say you're mad because they're just doing the hits. They already did. Well, they got the guy. They got the guy. They got the like stuff.

Yeah. Can I, I've been setting on. I was going to like, do I say it? Do I not say it? But if we're talking about things that Mike says, I listened to last week's episode with Zach Reno. And something occurred to me that has occurred to me in previous episodes, but it became exceedingly clear while just listening to this. I believe, Mike, that you are the only person in the last 50 years to exclusively use the word

porno. Like, I believe, I think generally as a society, where we have landed is that it is porn. Like who, and again, I'll throw this to you, Jason. Oh, well, now you'll say. I've heard of both ways. I think it's called corn now. I'm saying a lot of things. You say corn.

That's what the algorithm tells me. Is this an insane thing that I've said? I've just, I've heard you say before. Then I'm like, you've said porno three times. I think this is, I think not since the 1970s if people regularly said porno. What gift shop came you buy porno in? What were we talking about that porno convention? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, no, I know. You know, those porno conventions that are around all the time. You know, you know, if I need to blow off a little steam, you know, you know, you know what website. I'll head to pornohub.com. Yeah. I'm very aware that I say porno. I'll be honest. I'm very aware that I say porno because I love the word porno. Wow. This is what I was wondering because I thought this is in the family tree of rock and roll. This is you like trying to keep like a fun spin alive even though no one has said it this century. Guys I know say it though. Old men I know say. Your birth name is like porno. Oh not porno.

You aren't around old men who are talking about porno to you? I guess that's for the best. I'd love to be, but I'm not. Yeah. No, porno, I think it's mine. I've taken it,

that's completely something I own now is saying porno. Okay, this is a question. I'm glad I brought it up. It is a purposeful choice that you have made. I think it's hilarious to say porno. I mean, the O at the end of porn makes it funnier.

You like, you like, clear clarity with your words because your birth name is Mike Carlson Webster. the dictionary What? Like Webster's Dictionary I know what you mean

We're on to this guy He's a dictionary air I'm the air to the dictionary He's keeping this little Patreon job To make himself You know seem like a humble man But we know what NEPO This is a NEPO

He's obsessed with porno And I'm trying to get Like little used words out there To help Webster sell more copies Mike's got fucking To make people have to go Like God I got to think about that can't be right and you know what i don't trust i don't trust dictionary dot com that's probably

you know if that's an audience edited like wikipedia then you know different agendas might be getting in there i need to get to the source i'm gonna go buy myself a webster's dictionary and the brand i trust and i trust anyone in the webster family kaching kaching kaching mcg right yeah i got word money yeah i got it in porno yeah porno i'm trying to put it out there the word porno it's i mean like i'm not saying you're wrong. There is something more fun about the O. The O is a little bit fun. I'm just saying, I do feel like we have, like, decided as a society, no more O. But I guess this is your agenda. Yeah, you guys live in your own little world. I'm living over here in Fun Town in Fun Town, which happens to exist in 1972. That's fine with me. No problems here. You've got the solid gold mansion

in here. In Fun Town, yeah. That's where I live. Sorry. I say snoot instead of stout and I say porno instead of porn. I'm a fun guy. He's having a blast over here. These words are these words make a- I'm having a fucking party in Fun Town. I mean, I'm glad you are and that you're not living some kind of like sad,

in-cell sort of life where you're battling some kind of porno addiction. No, I don't have a porno addiction. That's true. I'm not, don't worry. I have a normal, healthy relationship with porno.

I think that the, the biggest proof that you don't have a porno addiction and that you are not a regular viewer of porno is that you use the word porno. It does feel more wholesome. Porn feels a little more. It softens it to you. I think it does.

No, I was thinking it is sort of like. It's like a clown. It's like a clown. Pornow the clown. You're right. If the word hadn't been taken, then there is a perfectly viable clown name. Not today.

Today, I don't want, I don't want porn of the clown hanging around my kid for two reasons. One of them being he's a clown. But I do, I think it does. remind me of like a 50s gimmick kind of like Vincent Price, the tickler type, like, now present presented in porno vision. Yeah. Well, it also is similar to one of the nicknames we gave Jason on this,

you're Horno the Candyman. Oh, that's right. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was fun. That was fun too. Maybe you're bringing me around. Maybe it's time. You know what?

But here's the thing. You shouldn't start saying it because I'll know you're copying me. And I'm right now the singular guy saying it. And then it'll be one of these, then like, then there'll be no argument that you're the tastemaker. Exactly. Everyone's saying porno. Everyone's watching Bar Rescue, the first qualification. That's right.

The second one, everybody's saying porno. Everybody's saying porno. So Mike, just to give full credit, Mike says porno, Scott says mouthcrafted. Okay. When I'm feeling a little horno, I go online and I look up the term mouthcraft. But I'm Warnow the Candy Man, but Mike's watching. what is it whatnot? You're watching the boxes of bulk candy

being sold. That's right, but not purchasing. Yeah. Window shopping. You know, it'd be crazy is to watch like kind of a Marvel themed porno, a porno starring Thanos. Yeah, that would be weird.

Well, surely they haven't made that in a erotic form. I'm not into that. I'm not into soiling the characters like that. I'll be honest with you. That doesn't do anything for me. And I'm not being facetious. What if Thanos is soiling the other characters? I don't, well, I'm sure he is.

I'm sure that's what's going on in there, but that feels wrong to me. Those characters are PG 13 or PG, not our X. They certainly are the most sexless franchise on earth, the Marvel films. Oh, that's true, except for like the first Iron Man or two, which is like slight sex once in one of those movies. Oh, really? Yeah. I'm glad they fixed that. Yeah, no, they took care of it.

Yeah, they removed it on Tooby. They got rid of Star Wars. and it's all, you know, that old sexually appealing Han Solo character, Garo's solo. Forget it. No more horniness. Yeah. Anyway, so we're going to get to the actual movie.

The movie. I like the movie. I like, I guess. Yeah, I thought it was interesting. Yeah. And it is, it does have, you made a mention of Walt's, the famous footage. They do use the famous Walt big pants footage. Time code three minutes and 56 seconds.

He had the big, big walking and the big pants. Yeah, this is. Well, to go back to the term that I invented frequent footage, this is definitely some frequent footage. And you get a lot of frequent footage in this, but also a lot of non-frequent footage. For example, within the frequent footage, yes, in many instances, I've seen Walt in the big pants and what drew my eye more, which is the pink shirt. Because you don't always see this footage in color. That's true. Oh, pink shirt, I see.

So you see, and this footage is, I'm sure you've seen it, but it is Walt like doing big strides, like pacing out probably how long something is going to be. I don't know where he is at this point. That's something I'd like to know. I'd like to know. Is it train tracks? Right. Is he trying to, you know, space out the river? Is he thinking way in advance?

Is he inventing Galaxy's Edge right there, right there? Maybe, yeah. But what I was surprised to see is that there's more footage of him in the pink shirt. Yes. That's what I was excited about. There's a second shot. Second shot. Where he's talking to the similar looking, you know, doughty gray old man.

Yeah. And it is like get back where you're like, There's more of the... He's in the chair here, and there's like another 10 minutes of it. And, like, here you're like, oh, there's... There's more footage of them in their rooftop coats. Right. There's more footage of Walt in his pacing shirt.

Right. Mal Evans. Extra Mal Evans footage. Wow. I can't say I was super familiar with Mal Evans before. I am now. Yeah, you are now. It's been many hours with Mal Evans.

Yeah. They're all my friends now. I don't know if all of these people are my friends now because you hear a lot of... You hear more voices of prominent. Disney names than you see them. Yeah. I would say I could not identify most of the people that I see. It is just kind of a wall of Fred Mercy guys.

Yes. It's a wall of Fred Murty guys. Some of them dressing nicer than I've ever dressed in my life and they're standing in a dirt field. Yeah, to build stuff. To build stuff. A guy in nicer slacks than I own and like a, the fork lift is like pushing dirt on him. And they're being buried alive and,

Nice slacks. And there are some guys that are really old doing manual labor. A couple. There's one guy they get a close-up of. I forget what he was doing. I think it was on the Mark Twain. He looks like the, I'm trying to think, what's the toy, the toy, like, he looks like some Pixar character, maybe like the critic and Rattatooie.

He looks like ancient like somebody like that. Or was there a toy maker and not the Wayne Knight character, but like a toy maker in Toy Story or my, I miss remembering. You were talking about the guy who goes to repair. Would he was a reuse of a carry? He was in the early short Jerry's game. That's right. Where he's a guy playing chess against himself and they used him also as the repairman.

There is a guy working on the Mark Twain that looks 85 years old and he's doing his best. He's working just another job and obviously the hot sun or whatever. And I'm just like, wow, look at that. But at that time, in 1955 might be what a 39 year old looks like. It's very possible. He lived a hard life. He had like fought in two world wars by then. Yes.

Yeah. And like this is just what life had done to him. Yeah. It's possible. Well, speaking of that, uh, uh, and that, that recent context that that had happened, you know, for not too long ago. No. Yeah. Uh, uh, one name that is name checked and given credit.

And I was glad to get to like that this guy gets credit because I never thought about where this footage comes from. Basically, we're looking at a lot of like restored 16 millimeter footage, which was a lot of which was cleaned up digitally. and it looks really fantastic. But some of the most interesting is the time lapse photography, which I don't think was a very common thing at that time. I think that process was kind of like being invented and done for the first time.

And the guy who's doing it for this was a real pioneer in that area. Like I think maybe probably took it to the level where now more people than him can do time lapse photography. He's like learning the science of it as he's doing it. And they talk about him. I'd never heard of this guy before, but a cinematographer whose name is Stuart Jewel. And I think Walt himself introduces that's Stuart Jewel.

And you see him setting up a camera on top of this big tower that is spacing out where the castle is going to be in the height of the castle. Right. There is a lot of very interesting footage of people climbing very, very wobbly. Precarius. Precourious. Precourious scaffolding flag poles.

Well, yeah, he's not safe seeming. That's Mr. Jewel climbing into the tower, right? There's a pretty good shots of him. You see him going up to either set up the camera for the first time or checking on the camera and then you see a bunch of his footage after that. But I was like, what's up with him? It's cool. He gets the name check.

And he is very responsible for a lot of this true life adventure films. Oh, yeah. that aren't really on our radar so much. I don't think if we thought about those, but I think if you were a Disney fan pre-Disniland or in the 40s and 50s, those are a big deal. And early Oscar winners, he shot a lot of the Living Desert,

which was an Oscar winner nominee or something, but a big deal. So I looked him up like, what's his deal and there's all that? But he was also just like a very mechanically minded person, a very smart person, as evidenced by the fact that he, a project that he did before working with Disney,

was the Manhattan Project. Oh. He worked on a Manhattan project producing weapons grade uranium for the atomic bomb. Okay. Okay. So the guy takes these pretty pictures. I mean, I'm glad. Look,

I'm glad he had another interest. He was immediately suspicious later on of all the Operation Paperclip guys that were working on tomorrow land. I was going to say, all the Nazi scientists. If you needed a resume for everyone who built Disneyland, There'll be some shocking things on those We're looking the other way on some of the

And now from these years, early 40s, what were you up to? Where were you up to it? All right, let's not worry about that. Hey, you look really, I remember I shot at you from an airplane. I'm so sorry, you understand tensions. What we have to do, we had to do? Let's take cans. Have a drink, have a drink.

So Walt's nice, huh? Yeah, Walt's good, good, I know. It's nice to see a TV. With the way that just people lived, I mean, up until what, 40 years? years ago, 30 years. Like, I bet every one of these men you see, or in women, you could make a whole feature-length documentary on them and it would be fascinating. Yeah.

Like their life, whatever their life was, it was probably like, oh, my God. Mm-hmm. What a crazy. Just a one guy that, like, painted the boat on the jungle cruise is like, you could do four hours and you'd be like, oh, my God, this is riveting what this person went through because of the time they grew up. Who they killed, who they ate. Sure.

Yeah. who they had to eat. It's tough times. I know their choice. I like that Scott honed in on this, like, really interesting historical figure. And one of my notes is the time code, eight minutes, 51 seconds. Workers on lunch. Okay.

I also have noted workers on lunch as well. Yeah. And I was like, oh, man, big Wonderbread, white bread sandwich, carton of milk or a canteen of coffee and cigarettes. Now, that's a lunch. that's something to note about this documentary they don't do the unreality thing where they change pictures of the past people are smoking cigarettes in this movie it is it is astounding that disney didn't make them scrub all the cigarettes i wonder if she fought back on that or they just didn't have the money it's either you have this documentary and it has cigarettes in it or you don't

have the documentary i worried and i think it was just the imperfection in the film but i worried there was one guy in a boat that I go, he's got a cigarette. And then he like turned his head and turned it back and it looked like it was gone. I don't think he ate the cigarette. But then I do think it came back. So maybe like the way the light was hitting it, it didn't capture. So I don't think they did any. I don't think they added it because there's multiple guys smoking, which thank God.

We ate cigarettes. We ate cigarettes back then. Yeah. Alice, do you get your necessary tobacco? Smoking only gives you some of it. You earn 10 cigarettes a day working on. Disneyland too so you had to eat a couple of them people eat salads that's leaves right I eat my tobacco leaves get it all over with in one quick bite smaller than a gumstick

Jason do you what I guess Wonderbread white bread sandwiches are they eating do you think cheese sandwiches I went back four or five times to try to determine what kind of sandwich that one guy was eating but I couldn't tell the real failing of the film restoration that yes it's not yes it's very sharp yes it's very clean but it's not clean enough to tell what kind what's in those sandwiches Right. Yeah, it's a pretty tidy sandwich. There's not a lot sticking out, so it's really hard to tell.

It's not a Dagwood style sandwich. Could be bologna. Could be tuna salad. I don't think it's a salad, though, because I think we would have been able to see what was seeping out from the bread. I think we would have been able to see. Oh, it's too bad. We didn't get to see the seep.

We didn't see any sort of salad seats. To see some hot seep. Some hot June SoCal soup. Ham salad, as Jason has said, or tuna salad. Don't you think it would seep a bit? Not if it's made... What I think is that I better shut up now or you guys are going to talk about this for 15 more minutes.

Well, I mean, it's possible. You're going to shut up. Be together. That's the only way. It's a really tricky needle to thread because I want to talk about a little more, but if he gets into it with us, it might blow the whole thing wide open.

I don't know. But if I stone face. But if he's stone face, that might be the best tactic. So you may get away with only two minutes and not 10. Yeah. Get your two out, fuckers. I just think that it's probably more likely cheese.

I think it's like a cheese sandwich. It's just one slice of American cheese and then two pieces of white bread. Or it could just be like one smear of peanut butter. I suppose, but it's a very thin. I mean, I guess, yeah, it could be a thin spread. And this also would have been the time where you would have been a sissy wimp to make the sandwich yourself. Well, of course. Surely these are wife-made sandwiches.

Of course. You think I'm going to get out, I'm going to smear one smear of peanut butter on my bread like a girl? Of course not. What do you? Yeah, they would be my, if they had caught wind, all the guys would have like thrown them into the lake. Or they would like be beaten to death. Wait a minute. That's done a little sloppy.

Walt would have done. You got a little too much seep on that. Did you make that sandwich yourself? I think there's some of that sandwich under your nails. Walt would have been like, let me finish him off, fellas. We'll bury them under the rivers of America So yeah No I also yeah

That's probably the most rewinded section Is that sandwich section for me Yeah there I just wanted to see How much are you rewinded Four or five times How many did you? Both of you separately without talking about it

Rewound the section about where you saw sandwiches Just because it was funny to watch them like Silently eat their stuff and all like Brush their hands off And like have a dessert cigarettes and then all get up simultaneously and walk away

were you guys the exact same person when you met or have you just morphed into the same person over the course of 15 years unclear they're studying it's too yeah we don't really know I think it's similar I also I mean I definitely want to talk to him about I knew if I was just doing the podcast with you I may not have

rewinded five times only maybe two or three but I guess I'll save myself the thumb effort Scott is not going to be interested in seeing those guys wipe their hands. Because if I could have said, oh, there's liver sausage or something, that's going to start Jason and I off for another 10 minutes.

And I knew that was going to be good content. Feel free. I don't have any information. We didn't call it liver sauce straggies. They called it liver worst. Liver worst, right. Different term for the same thing. I got a, my mom sent me like a gift basket

at some point from a cheese monger place back in Pennsylvania. And there is an unopened like log of Lebanon baloney in there. which is kind of like a sweet summer sausage sort of thing. And this is preserved in a way where it doesn't, you don't have to eat that right away? It's sealed and it's in a case in the seal. Can I?

Okay. So are you thinking then about putting it in a time capsule? Well, I was really thinking about cutting some slices into little zip log bags and bring them in for you guys to eat, but I haven't gotten around with that yet. Can you post a photo of your baloney log on our socials? Sure.

Okay, because I'm curious to see if I want to make you. Don't take that in a dirty. Anyway, that's not what I meant at all. There's a cute little mascot. It's not a cute little. That's a awesome talk. Don't be posting your porno on our socials. But it's got more in the realm of what you were talking about.

I was surprised technologically how much helicopters were in this. Helicopters for footage, like from footage shot from copters. Shot from a blimp. Yeah, the good, it seems like the good year. You see a guy leaning dangerously out of good. I think it's on the ground. Okay. I think it's on the ground.

Yeah. However, I think, look, I think you're right and I agree with you, but do I also think that that guy leaned that dangerously, if not more, once in the air? Yes, I do. Yeah. Yeah. Because this is a movie about danger. This is about people.

Right. People risking their lives without knowing that they're risking their lives. It was 1955. They didn't know better. It was almost like an accidental jackass or like a proto jackass or like a proto jackass. An unspoken jackass. Yeah. Wow.

Yeah. No, the way everybody, like, It celebrates jackass now that it's like men expressing themselves. It's actually very healthy and stuff. It's that but for an era where men weren't allowed to express themselves even one tiny bit. They can't express themselves with one little drop of a peanut butter coming out of a sandwich. Right. Like imagine like we man has to walk on like a steel beam with a cigarette in his mouth. It's the same type of thing.

It's just we don't get to see like a fall. We man and Steveo just joylessly nodding at each other. Right. That's the equivalent of them laughing. Right. Yeah. So I did look up because there was like an image, there was like a Photoshop joke meme or JPEG going around that just called the change the name of the movie to OSHA violations. Yeah.

And I did look up. The Occupational Safety and Health Act was signed in the law by President Nixon December 1970. And then April 71, OSHA was created. So it is very funny that the president who loved Disneyland was like, oh, we need a safety organization for building. Well, and there's probably a lot of people riding beams down building the Florida project to building Disney World, right? And then like, get down, boys. OSHA passed. You know they were mad about that.

Yeah, yeah. I was really excited by that helicopter because it looks so similar to. the bat copter in the Batman 60s movie which yes is like I guess that was just a commercial helicopter that a lot of people use but I was like whoa it's a back hopter

it's more like there's like no covering in the back it's all pipes and then like the right just in a pod and the fresh I feel like the ones that mash look like that same kind of error I believe I looked it up it's a bell 47 is the name of that type of helicopter well it's a pioneering you can buy one maybe

I mean do I have Do I have a small version of one? I don't know if they made it. Or do I, I don't think so. I have a bat boat in storage, but I don't think I have a bat copter. I don't think they made a bat copter. And he means a real one, because as we established, he is a Webster sign on. Yeah, he is.

Yes. I have a bat motorcycle. I have a Batgirls motorcycle, but they didn't make a bat copter. When you go over Mike's house, it does look like Homer with the monocle and the top hat and Marge dancing in a bikini. That's what you're usually greeted ask when you arrive at bikes. Because of the Webster money, too? Yeah, because of the Webster money.

Right, right. It's not Lindsay. It's a woman who looks exactly like Batgirl who he hired. Yes, 60s Bat Girl. And at the end of the day, she turns around on the patio and, like, takes an old-timey time card and puts his in a time clock. And then, like, see you tomorrow. Well, see you on Monday. Well, we insist on that.

I guess it makes sense that Walt was like conscious enough to know that we should document the hell out of this. But it does feel a little unusual for the time. Yeah, true. I mean, he did know it was a big deal that they were making this thing. But it is very well documented. Well, so some of this had been released because you're hearing narration and even seeing shots from it. I couldn't tell you which one. But I know that there were things like Disneyland progress reports.

It's things that aired on that Disneyland show between 54 and 55 on the way. So you have to think this is probably all footage for that, but cut in an extremely different way. And black and white, obviously, or at least that's how it aired ultimately. So we probably, I assume a lot of this is like cutting, like, that's all it was ever going to be was cutting room floor footage for that special from the 50s. But we have, but just due to it, due to it being shot on film. like there's the ability to restore it and make it look wonderful. Yeah, I guess, yes, you're probably right. It's like extremely different way.

Kind of an accident. Not an accident, but just like this is like, we just had so much left over now that you may as well like go through it because it's turned into such a big. Disneyland is a big deal. I was about to call it, you know. Now that Disney is such a big deal. Now that it's such a big deal. It's the next big thing.

It wasn't. There is. I was talking about earlier that there is a clip from a guy walking. on a steel beam with a cigarette in his mouth. And I am just, I'm in awe of the guys that slide down, like, steel beams with no extra, like, rope around them to make sure they don't fall. Like, just, like, like, I do follow a lot of Instagram accounts that do crazy parkour and, like, crazy climbs now.

And there was that guy that just climbed that building on Netflix. Did that air? I believe so. Yeah. Did he do it? I believe so, yeah. Okay. I don't think he fell.

There was a rain delay or something. Yeah. Forget if it. I don't know if it happened. But these guys were just, they were not, this wasn't their brand. They weren't posting on the gram. They were just like doing crazy like weird parkour moves just to get around their job, their construction jobs.

Unless there was a hamming up for the camera to some extent. There was some of that. There probably was not typically a camera around these guys. A fun thing in that there's a lot of people goofing off, you know, at their job. A lot of people goofing off. That seems like people are having a good time. there's also a lot of heavy machinery going at insane angles that you probably shouldn't do it including one like truck or earth mover or something that tips over and the guy jumps out

and then it falls behind it and almost gets crushed I was like oh my god is he going to get oh thank God for a half second I think if you watch it and you don't know I guess we're spoiling it now but if you don't know you go oh this guy's about to get crushed I'm about to watch a guy get crushed by it, but no, he like, it ends up being like just, he rolls out and pops up and dusts his pants off and he's fine. But yeah, the whole thing, this giant thing tips over. He's only a half second away. It's crazy. Yeah. It's a pretty wild. That's the, that's the craziest piece of footage in this. He's so nonchalant about it. I wonder if it had happened before. Yeah. There's also a lot of using construction equipment for bits. That is so, there's a very

charming bid where a guy uses like a bulldozer or a crane to get a single orange for a woman. This had to air on something, right? I've never seen this before, but this feels like they shot this to be a bit. Yeah. No, I think so. This has like coverage because then he goes like, yeah, yeah, you're welcome, man. I just mean this wasn't like a left on the cutting room floor piece of like. If it wasn't in one of the Disneyland specials, then I'm sure it was shot to be, to be a fun little.

Yeah, it has to be. Right. It's so charm. And he does like, oh, thank you, ma'am. And she, like, wait. And she's, like, perfectly costumed and coiffed and everything. That's very funny. Somebody gets her back scratched with one of the, like, whatever you call it,

the big shovel thing. We don't know equipment. We didn't look it up. We've now arrived at the first episode of the show that would have my five-year-old son yelling at their phone. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like, because I get construction equipment wrong around the house. all the time and he's like, duh, no.

It's that I can't even produce the name of one to. Wow, really? Yeah, yeah. So he's that specific. Extremely. Yeah, yeah. And with trains and every type of vehicle. Well, you know, it really come to Andy right now of Pountable Valley Farms.

He would, he would love that. He would, he'd be there all day. Well, I meant for us. I meant for reference for us. Because we would be brushing up on our. Because there would be there all the time, brushing up on our. terminology. Once they were representative, like, hey, do you need one of these?

Do you need a forklift? Yeah. I don't think they were doing sales, but I don't know. Maybe Eisner was imagining that, yeah. Yeah, maybe. So, yeah, whatever that piece of machinery was that digs dirt, the scratching eyes back, funny. Excavator.

Oh, yeah, probably an excavator. There you go. There's a lot of excavators. Yeah, a lot of excavation needed to be done. Yeah, gecko's garage has taught me about. I only know that word because it's in U2's elevation. Song elevation. Excavators!

Let's see here. Just some of this, some of my favorite shots in there, like there's one thing where they like drive through the frontier land gate. And if you're, I was, I watched some of this on my phone. So I was watching this on my phone.

So it really felt surreal watching that. Like going through the frontier land gate and there's like nothing behind it. It felt like a nightmare. Yeah, yeah. You know, I've always felt a disconnect between the opening day special, which we've watched and talked about on the show, where you're watching this four by three, real muddy, real black and white, streaky. I mean, it's still a fascinating document and worth watching. Yeah.

But as far as, I don't know, I've watched the opening day special from 55, and I'm like, that's not the park I go to. now. The footage through this, it's in color, it's wide, it's detailed. I'm like, I see it. I see the park I go to. And it's really eerie at times. You're just like, wow, yeah, that's that turn and that's that corner. And it's up, except nothing's there. But then, like, in some cases, you're like, wow, that sort of is exactly what that's like. And the weird little, like, Casey Jr. was one that occurred to me, because I've been doing that a lot with the kiddo. And the, like, like, there it is. That's that weird little, like, It's just like a little like stump.

It's the most modest path to a ride you've ever seen. And like, wow, there it is in 55. Uncluttered. That doesn't change one bit. One of my just like dumb guy notes I wrote is it's the same place. Yeah. But that's it is. I'm like, that's what you're saying.

I'm like, oh, wow, this feels so much more like exactly not like it is now. Yeah. And if because you watch the old stuff. It's much more obviously so than it than in other foot, which is that I guess that's an endorsement for. Even seeing like a largely empty. Park, once they get the berm built, it really shuts out of the lot of the

outside world of Anaheim, the city. Yes, well, especially because at this time, when it opened, there were not a lot of rides that took you up high. By the time you get... Oh, that's true. Isn't that true? They're kind of all are all on the ground. Am I making

that up? I guess you get Dumbo, but that's barely, but you don't have Skyway, and you certainly don't have Matterhorn. The Pirate... The Pirates ship is open though. Is that the highest you can get? Yeah, I guess, yeah, you can get to a second story, I think, is the highest.

But it's also, it must have been fascinating to be there in the time where a lot of what was surrounding it were Orange Groves or other farms or whatever. Yeah. Like, it must have been more of a living reality of what's often depicted on theme park maps where what's, why what is there once the park is done, nothing but trees. Yeah. And we know that that's not true. for a lot of places and sometimes there's a street

like 10 feet away. Yeah. But it must have been a little magical to see just infinite forest, infinite. Yeah, that's a good point. But, you know, now it's cool to get to see you get up high there and you see a Howard Johnson hotel and a Ruby's

diner and a lot of many fun establishments. And if they suppress, you know. And if they do, which I assume they will, bring the parks all the way to the sides of the Disneyland Hotel, you'll be able to see those houses. Yeah, yeah.

Well, finally be able to see into those neighbor's houses. It'll be a very universal Florida thing. Oh, yeah. Right there. Where there's a high school directly behind Jurassic Park. Like volcano bay. If you climb the water tower, you just turn around and you're like,

somebody's going to school. There's a bunch of houses here. I'm not in a tropical paradise. This is Orlando. Yeah, does it make you mad? It ruins it for you? A little bit, yeah. I wish they could have done something.

At least like a guy yells at me, don't turn around. Don't look. Look this way. You want a man yelling at you and scolding you? Well, he should be in character. Hello. Sure.

I'm Carl Lenley and this is my friend Lou Wasserman. The Dream finder is the top of the slide. That's who appears at volcano bay. Yeah. In old time in old time he bathings, wool bathing suits. Not like, hey, bro, don't look that way, bro. Like that. I mean, the least like that.

Yes. Oh, yes. Surfer dude. Surfer dude. It's a real shame. They don't have a bunch of original IP characters at Volcano Bay. I mean, it is. I think it is.

There's a part where they talk about, there's a lady named Ruth Shellhorn. Her job was to manage the different, like people working on the different lands to make sure that one didn't like stick out like crazy that they all felt of a piece, essentially. Oh, I see. Which I found interesting. so yeah so like one didn't like wasn't tall i guess maybe like way taller than somebody because

they were so many different people were working so fast on all this stuff it would probably have been easy for like one of the lands to just look like weird or shitty or something sure yeah and it seems like in the case of tomorrow land it did well yes that yes because they were really they were really like cramming their homework the night before on that um but there was here you went to the worlds of yesterday and tomorrow don't think about tomorrow don't think about tomorrow too much. Don't linger there. Yeah.

But then I think it was the same woman who was doing a voiceover, and I think Roy said this to her, was like, don't bother Walt with any problems. Just let him dream. I was like, that sounds like Disney copy. Like that sounds like Disney fantasy myth making. But maybe that is what he said.

I don't know. There's a lot of. Wait, sorry. Walt had a little bit too much to dream. dream last night. It's really give him some dream space. There's a chance to maybe dream a little less to come down from the dreaming. Walt's in his apartment right now with Hazel George, dreaming, okay?

Don't bother him. He's dreaming. Hey. Yes, his wife knows he's dreaming. Yeah. Why would you ask that? Yeah, yeah. She's there.

She's around. Don't worry. Walt, like a lot, this documentary makes clear, or at least the stories make clear. Like, Walt knew how line items work on a budget. he had no idea how large-scale construction projects work. Yeah. Because I... Fucking idiot.

Yeah. No, I don't know either, certainly. I do. We can do no problem. Someone at one point says there was nothing there that anyone would give a darn about. I think that's the first time I've heard that phrase. It's when he's talking about like how they've already blown through half the budget. And he's looking around and he's like, this place is not ready.

This looks like shit. No one would have spent 15 cents on this, he says. And he says like, I'm worried. What does he say? I'm worried. He said something along the lines of like, I'm really worried. I'm really scared. You know what?

I got curious about, you said Ruth Shelforn. I was like, I think I feel like I had notes about Ruth Shelfhorn an episode we did forever go about like when Disneyland was open. And I looked it up and what I landed on is exactly applicable to what you're saying because she felt the same way. And she kept a diary around this time. So we were getting her real time thoughts about how it's going. Here is what she wrote.

I'm really scared about Disneyland. So much, that's really something. I'm really scared about Disneyland. So much I don't know and trying to design and not being sure I'm on the right track and the rush of time. And then a little bit later, things do not improve because she says, feel lower than a room. Sorry, feel lower than a worm. Wow. More than a worm about this.

That's, I feel, I've said this before. I feel every time I like post a podcast ride I feel a little like pit in my stomach of like oh god You feel lower than a worm? No, no, I don't feel that bad I'm just saying there's not I'm saying you need some help if you feel lower than a worm Can you imagine if we were opening of a park

And it was like weeks away It was so it looked like shit How stressed I would be Oh my God You would just pick up a hammer and nails And start just doing it in any piece of wood that you find I'm gonna say I was gonna drill it through my own head Oh I didn't think it was that bad

Whatever. Can this nail hit the part of my brain that turns the worry off? I love the storyline that like everyone's like, Walt, you're a fucking it. This is going to eat shit. And it's like even back then, he was like a great American industry leader. And it's like, didn't people love that shit? Like, why? Why are they so like, everyone's like, fuck you, Walt.

You got to borrow all this money. You're an idiot. This isn't going to work. Well, they say, yeah. The people said that when he wanted to make a feature-length cartoon and then when he's doing a theme park. So look, you got doubters.

People said that about a dreamer named James Cameron. That's exactly what I thought. Tell a world, tell a story about a world of blue folks. Right. And look at them now. Right. We hit top 20 all time.

Yeah. And take that haters. And that's, look, and quite frankly, that's how I feel when Scott doesn't want to hear us talk about sandwiches, you know? It's very, similar where it's like you don't understand you don't understand that Jason

and I are two of the best sandwich discussers on the planet earth I mean come on like we should get the benefit of the doubt this is crazy actually but we've been talking about some of the your turns of phrase I mentioned to Aaron the pornobe thing and she said you know it's the only one I've ever noticed with Mike he says sandwich

that's interesting yeah as opposed to sandwich sandwich yeah you do it like with a G that's some weird that's weird that's weird then. You just did it. Your mouth starts smiling by the time you get to end of the... Sandwich.

The word. Sandwich. Yeah. He pushes the end of the work. Sandwich. Yeah, I see what you're saying. Mm-hmm. Is this now?

Is this one now? Is that just an accident or is that one for fun? No, not fun. That's just some weird. That's the weird way I say it. Is it Chicago-y a little bit somehow? Yeah, probably. Would you put that in that category?

Sandwich. Mm-hmm. If you, well, here's a question. We have put some of Jason's turns of phrase into the bucket of hoogie mouth. Yeah. Do you think you have a version of this? It could be beef mouth. Beef mouth or deep dish mouth?

What else? Hot dog mouth? I don't know. Yeah, one of beef mouth is a simplest one I think. Beef mouth. Maybe beef mouth. Yeah. Sometimes I don't think of myself as having a Chicago accent, but then sometimes I do hear

the show and I go, oh, there it is. That's interesting. Yeah. So that might be part of it, yeah. Because that is not how I, that's not how it sounds when I'm saying it. Because what's the one I've noticed is like, like, like, oh, it's fwony. There it is. That's funny, yeah.

It's 20. Yeah. I do have like a De Bears, a light De Bears accent. That's how these things are when you're raised with that. It's just like. There's a light one because everybody I know only has it slight, I feel like, except a couple kids from high school who had it as hardcore as the super fans, the bears. Yeah.

Like crazy voices. Those are the ones who stay. Yes. Yeah, they didn't leave. No, they're back home. Yeah. They'd be unemployable anywhere else. Right.

They would do a job interview and so, inconclusive. that's why you should get the job and then the person would say what did you just say you get out of here until you learn how to speak the only way they would be able to survive is to live in Buena Park and they could go to Portillo's every day to get enough beat my kind is accepting yeah what do you mean they ain't open for breakfast I can't sleep here yeah uh uh so oh you know my mom my mom pointed out that I did I say this on that I I'm sure I've said this before. My mom years ago pointed out that I started saying restaurant,

which is the way Jason pronounces it instead of restaurant. So this is one of those steps in you. Yeah. You both merging as one. So we did merge back then, but I have reverted back to saying restaurant. Oh, okay. But Jason says a restaurant.

Well, that makes me worried about the relationship. Is you drifting apart? No, I'm trying to keep distance. That's healthy. We have to have separate interests and separate pronunciations. or else we cannot say we cannot say words the same or not all of the words at least the same then it distracts from our shared interest like types of sandwiches and and worsts liver worsts and new sodas and new sodas uh yes walt says at some point that he doesn't hoard money which is i find interesting and i wonder if that's true like true or maybe it just is because he died with like before he could hoard some money but that money to him any money that he's

encounters is now targeted as well this can pay for that is what he's saying yeah and like I'm like all right well I can get behind a rich guy that says that as long as he's making like fun stuff yeah but it does feel like most of the other guys now these days so much of what we pine for yes is when rich guys made fun stuff yeah at least just do a fun for it koplas said he's gone broke like half a dozen times and Walt says he's true I guess I count again I haven't seen it but I've said I I saw Mega Doc and I had fun. So ultimately, like fun was produced by his extreme loss of money.

Because am I misremembering, but wasn't it like, oh, he sold Coppola wineries and then put the money into making this movie he always wanted to make? Yeah. Is that right? Yeah. Okay.

And he's had to sell some, like, interesting props or something. Now I can't remember what those props are. Watches? Oh, is that right? I feel like he sold a watch or two. I could be wrong. He had to sell a car. Godfather's underwear.

Marlins underwear. I was going to let my airs sell this in 70 years, but I stole it off. I stole it off Brando's legs myself. He sells the orange. The orange that was in his mouth and the first godfather. That's preserved. The real orange that was clanging around and them cheeks. Yeah.

It doesn't look the same anymore, but it is the same. It is the orange. That's Marlon's. spit cake ton to that orange yeah yeah and it's been in a little jar ever since he was going to make wine out of the out of that orange oh yeah it could be like it'd be like the mother

dough it's like a mother wine so he keeps growing mold and you use it for the mold wine you could just always have a piece of marlin in the wine wow that sounds nice actually good way to remember him wow that dream is dead now

so then if you had if you drank the wine it would be like you also had kissed Larry King on that episode that interview is it well that came no you're right you're right it's not it's the same saliva

that ultimately yeah later would be yeah yeah yeah I mean it's really the only person who benefited from that was Larry himself yeah unless wow the saliva that touched the famous oranges itself unless there was a Larry King estate sale

was something that had touched Larry's mouth and then you could combine the two was there not I believe am I making this up? I think that there was Larry King estate sale and I believe that friend of the show Van Robes Show

is that where he bought his blockbuster entertainment award? Wow, is that right? He bought something from I'll try to learn what this was like. I was watching the sale of his two pairs of pajamas.

Yes, that's right. I didn't get it. Would you wear them if you had them? They looked very nice. Because I get scared of wearing old clothes because I think the ghosts are in the clothes. I would probably get them dry cleaned and then I would wear them. But you would wear them regularly. Yeah.

It would be like one day of bit or like half a day and then it would just be like, these are my pajamas now. Yeah. These are Larry King's. My penis is right where Larry King's penis was. Because I'll be honest, that's a thought I have like stuff like that where I'm like, I don't want to wear someone's pants. I have, like obviously I've done commercials or something where I'm wearing. old pants.

But I don't like it. I know they're clinging in whatever. It just feels wrong. This might explain some of the discomfort with the genre of porno. Is your, that you are, wow, I'm only two pieces of fabric away from something that was brushed by two pieces

of fabric that were brushed by another man's penis. Years ago with many washings in between. I would feel more comfortable if it was a famous man's penis, I guess, if it was like Larry King's. but it's still I don't love it it's not something I lie I can do it it's not a fear or something like

that I'm so scared I can't do it but I just in general if I can avoid it I do Would you if right if in front of you We ran a little test and we hired a man Because we're not going to do this ourselves again As you said with Jason you need boundaries We shouldn't be doing this ourselves But okay we're gonna pay good money to a man

Yeah To wipe his penis on some pants And then his own And we monitor this process just to make sure everything's on the up. Wipe it from urine or just wipe the skin? Just what he's got. And then immediately that goes from him to you.

So you're getting fresh with no wash. Because you're talking a big game about this is not a fear. But it's not urine. No. I don't think so. We'll tell him to clean up. You clean those droplets off this man who we hire. So wait, what am I answering?

What a question I'm answering? How are you supposed to absorb their power if you clean the droplet? That's where a man's power comes as urine. I guess. The question is, answer the question. Do you not, would you not wear pants, which were free-balled by another man and then immediately transferred to you, your choice whether you wear underwear or not?

Would I do it? Is this just to see if like I would, like, it's impossible for me to do it? And your reward is zero dollars. It's pride. You don't want to absorb their erotic energy for your power? First of all, I don't know where this guy is. I don't know who he is. I guess if I'm wearing an undergarment of some kind, I suppose that like I, if this is like

some sort of show where I have to like perform like now I'm put on the spot, I guess if it's for the podcast, I guess I'll do it. But no, I don't want to do that. Okay. It's not something I'm interested in. Something about the presses I just described sounds unpleasant. Seems a little bit. The process is where we hire a man to wipe his penis on some pants.

Oh, man. Yeah. I mean, you didn't say like you had to shower or anything. Exciting opportunity. Yeah. Are you a go-getter in the Los Angeles area? Yeah. Would you like to join a semi-hit podcast for an incredible experiment? Yeah.

I mean... This activity was cut from the Disneyland handcrafted documentary. Like, you know, it took so long, such long projects. Like how Hugh Jackman's always buying a lottery ticket Friday for the whole cast and crew. He does that, really? Yeah, I saw a little video clip where he says, like, yeah, you're working a movie for a while. Everyone gets to know each other. and you know, you want, you know,

everyone to have something, something fun to look for it. This is a sequel to, that's why the obsession with the George Clooney suitcase story. That's what I was about to say. You want a very, we want a rich famous actor

and this is exactly what I was about to say. You know, he said, this guy wants to be a celebrity sugar daddy. He said the most, like, the most satisfying thing is like when a PA or a grip, like wins. No, no, we're through with what he said. We're now focusing on that you want.

I think you have a fixation with stories. I was about to say that this stuff sticks with you because you start to drift away. What if I got a part? What if I was? What if I was a PA? Listen to me, movie stars. Help me. Yes.

Just take some of your pixie dust and let it land on me. Yes. Well, let's figure out, Jason, look into more. Is there any who, what was the biggest? winning from any of this. I don't know. I don't know if it's well documented. Because maybe there's a briefcase story down this rabbit hole.

I'll start doing, I'll start poking around. Because the briefcase story is played out on podcast. Right. But if we can get this lottery ticket thing going, I think we can have a whole another couple of years of content. Are we finally declaring that certain things on this podcast are played out? Well, I was being,

I was being, I was being facetious. We're finally entering. No way, Jose. You can ride Dumbo an unlimited amount of times. And the briefcase story can be. recounted a number of times because it gets more interesting every time we misremember or something or I guess learn a new facet of it. That's right. I speaking though of celebrities a little bit of

celebrity pixie dust landing on you through a text of van I had a feeling he would respond right away and I said did you buy something from a Larry King estate sale I was close it was an award but not a blockbuster rather a cable ace award. Oh whoa that's a record state. Let the record state that Van Robo Show owns Larry King's award for the best talk show series at the ninth annual Cable Ace Awards. Young listeners, this is a long defunct award show with the most potential for violence statue that was ever built. Yeah.

Because it is an ace and it gets to a very sharp point. You could easily murder somebody with an Ace Award. And I would encourage Van to be careful knowing that information. But yeah, this is from 1988. Van sent me a picture right away and said only my most prized possession. Wow. So now you know. He also sent a photo of Larry with Dr. Ruth holding this very award.

Very as comfortable with sexuality as Mike is not. Yeah, talk about an object absorbing erotic energy. That's a powerful item. Wow. he's sending more information maybe I'll give a summation update at the end of the episode everything that we learn about Vans

1988 Larry King Cable Ace Award I will I did actually think of a good little segue back into the documentary with everything that I was just saying I was talking about the fine point on the cable ace award something one interesting shot that we have missed is the Tomorrowland moonliner the big spaceship

kind of the icon of Tomorrowland at that time that you see a guy take the very sharp spire of it and be lifted up solo on a crane like with a big swing and seemingly nothing tying him in nothing protecting him and that's how they did it they just send a crane up there a guy screws it in there we go that's the top of that rocket ship the creaky aluminum rocket yes yeah yeah yes as we learned a long time ago the aluminum made it to shift in the sun so it made a lot of loud ghostly noises all day right there is there is There are two moments, like, right, I think right around that, that are also kind of crazy to watch. One, less crazy is Walt, like, driving a jeet?

Like, it looks like a stripped down army jeep. Oh, I love this. And he's hauling ass by the rivers of America. He's so happy. And he looks crazy. He looks crazy. He looks like he's having the most funny he's ever had his life. the other is the terrifying guy on top of the wobbly flagpole.

The mainstream flagpole, he climbs the flagpole, and they're putting reinforcements on. But this thing is like in the wind, I don't know if it's in the wind or if it's just not fully sealed yet, and it seems like he's about to be launched off it. But it was fine. These guys were all fine. The amount of danger. It's really, I don't know. I didn't know.

I didn't know that's what you were getting with this. So it's a nice reward. If you do think that you're going to watch something that's a little bit stayed, that you get to see a bunch of people. Yeah. Laugh at danger in the face. They're like off-roading with the Autopia cars.

That's really fun. Oh, that's right. Well, they have to drive them too. Yeah, they're like delivering them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're not like totally joy riding, but still. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's like, look, I like this thing and I like the footage and I like the tone and

I like that it lays in, that it's kind of about like the, you know, how, how, what is, what is being built here is more magical than the sum of its parts. It's more magical than anybody could have realized and it'll have an impact bigger than anybody could have realized. And in a lot of moments, that's really working and that's coming through. Then there's other parts where this sort of Philip Glassy score is doing its magic and just like, ha, ha, and rising. And then you're like, I'm watching a, I'm watching a shirtless man in slacks and a big hat. kind of like, like, there's one in particular, I don't know where it is, but he's just the most, like, sweaty golden brown guy and just looking around like, eh, and he's like, it is so close to scratching his nuts. He doesn't. But he's almost thinking, maybe he clocked the camera and went, maybe I shouldn't scratch my nuts right here. I guess I'll go, I'll go behind a wall or something, and then I'll scratch him like there ain't no tomorrow. I also had the thought, a similar thought, where it was like, all of the score in this makes this just like, ah, these dream builders, these men who have plucked the magic from the gods have bought it to Earth. Yes. And you're like, yeah, but these are guys just like, fuck. We're building a fucking building. It's falling over. I'm hot. This looks like, who cares about this shit? Like, it would be interesting. And Disney will not probably do that.

So many of them are bored. They look bored. Of course. Yeah, another day in paradise. If you were dramatizing this, I would have argued for like, you got to like keep the magic to only pieces of it. And just get into the actual feeling of this is like just a mundane, weird job for all these dudes and ladies. Yeah. Like, so yeah, you never get any of that.

I'm building a mausoleum next week. Right. It's not like everything is treated as if like, yes, God is building. molding something out of clay. Yes. If I had a problem with it, it isn't that. And there were moments where I was like, well, this is, like, you would edit,

this is how you would edit things to onboard somebody into a cult. Yeah, yeah. You know, like, you could take the same music and if you had the footage to support it, you could do the same thing with like, everybody said that El Ron Hubbard couldn't finish Battlefield Earth. He was up against an incredible deadline. Right.

I mean, you know, he had, you know, this guy had 24 chapters to go and it was due in five days. But he looked deep down in himself and he found the power. The power of the volcano surged through him. Yeah. No, I know you should end this like end watching this and then you just feel like I'm ready to do whatever this documentary wants. I'll do whatever they say.

Even though some of the footage when they're like doing Main Street, they're doing asphalt and like cement work. And it's literally guys pushing wheelbarrows of slop. It looks like stuff because there's no other way. And they just casually like dump it. Like seeing the raw materials before like scenic designers get to it. And they're just like, yeah, it's a hose. It shoots to go.

And they're just like, this is jungle. It's going to be the jungle cruise wall. It's going to be some jungle thing. Yeah. They probably said, well, over there, that's going to be where the dumb jungle thing is. And that's where the dumb fairy stuff is. Yeah. And over there, that's where the dumb donkeys will take kids, dumb kids around.

It's like the crew on Star Wars When they're just like What is this shit? Yeah, yeah This sucks This cobb What do I guess they were English? What do you need that?

Cogbage you were making You need some you need somebody You need some healthy glares around Yeah To keep you on your toes It's got to be some people that are just like Have such disdain for this There's a magic to that I think

You need like Tony Baxes In the organization that like are very much All the Magic whatever But you need just some like practical guys that are like, what is this loser shit? Who's, what adults are coming to this? You're going to be, oh, I would beat the shit out of them if they wanted to go with me. If an adult asks me to go to this.

Like that, you do want some of that energy. And you want that some of the energy in any of your, like, comic book stuff too, where people are, like, mad that, like, an actor doesn't like the comics from the thing. I don't care at all about that. I think that's hilarious. I love that. When somebody's playing a famous superhero and they've never read the comic. or whatever.

They don't even know that the correct pronunciation is thawnos. Phanos. Is that deep dish? That's deep dish mouth. Or they get handed like, oh, okay, read this collection of comics because we're, we, the one scene is inspired by the scene in the comic and it's like, oh, you know there's some duds in some of those archives. They don't read those.

That's all PR. Huh? That's all PR. Oh, yeah. They read this run. I'm just saying like they don't read. They don't read the full. I'm just saying like even some of the stuff where it's like it's not helpful you're saying.

Like the Infinity Gauntlet, Infinity War stuff, that was like quarter bin fodder when I was like in second grade. Like I would buy the Thano stuff. You didn't like the? Well, we can't talk about that now. I liked it. I liked it. But then, but it's like the X-Men and Spawn where like those were the big things. So it's like as infinity gauntlet stuff is trash.

You just keep going. This will give me plenty of time to learn about Vans more. I'm interested in that. You're saying that like Benedict Cumberbatch is not going to learn any more nuance to Dr. Strange from reading 30 issues of the infinity. I agree with you, by the way. Stuff that like Jim Starlin everything made. But then there's also some stuff where they're like, oh, they've gone to this well far too

many times. Yeah. No, I bet most of them don't read anything. Yeah. And honestly, why should they? It should be in the actual script. I mean, they probably might have come off one. movie going to another and then go to the next. They're busy people. Hollywood's brightest stars

are some of the busiest people you've ever met. Well, that's how they shine so bright in the night sky. That's right. Benizio Del Torre was like exhausted coming off movie when he made one battle after another. He's great in it. I actually don't know that. I would think that Benizio de Toro would seem extremely tired throughout every bit of the film. But this guy, this guy came through because he's a real life. That's Razzle-Dazel Jason. That's a He's a pro professional. He's a pro pro. You're telling me, Benicio D'Otoe was good in a movie.

He turned around a second. Yes, wait till you go to the theater and see Mr. Daltoro. His eyes, wait till his eyes are projected huge and they don't look tired, even one bit. Print me a shirt that says a few small beers, fellas. I won't worry. I want to pay him money. It's nice to say Paul Thomas Anderson finally get his flowers. You need to do Instagram.

or TikToks like this. Just complimentary. No bit. Don't even. Laura Duren, your star shines brighter than ever. You don't even work on jokes for it. She's one of the best of the best. Right, there you go.

I wasn't saying she was. Brewster. Are you Nebraska? I think every day you do 10 videos right off the top of your head. However you feel about them. So if it's Laura Dern, best of the best, you go, Laura Dern, best to the best or whatever, and then you just post that,

and then you go to Bruce Dern or whatever, and you do 10 a day, and we really, you rack up the numbers on Instagram. There's a vulture article about a new Channing Tatum, Gemma Chan film at Sundance. That's really unerving, supposedly.

What's that going to be like? Too many words. What do you think of Channing Tatum? Oh, it's a wonder cat. He's a dancer. He's a star. He's handsome. He's strong.

He can do it all. He can do it all. Gambit. Ace Gambit. This is a perfect tie together. In the time that all of the talking was occurring, Van sent me all the info that he has about the ninth annual Cable Ace Awards, which aired on HBO, November 30th, 1987,

why he even sent me a list of all the stars who appeared. Jason, surely you've got some nice things to say about some of these bright shining stars. He's getting warmed up. He's warming up. Get ready for it. Oh, my God. I mean, some of the greats were there. Why, uh, uh, uh, Dabney Coleman.

Well, who's better than Dad me? Great, Primer. Harry Hamlin. Oh, Harry Hamlin. Harry Hamlin, don't know him, don't know him much. Post it, let's go. Don't know him much, but I know he's a name so much. They've done something good.

John Lyrickett. Oh. Oh, terrific. Night court. Yep, go. Shelly Deval. Shelly Deval. Who's better than Shelly DeVall?

How many things have she done? very focused on children's education later in her career. Selfless. Selfless. Wait, and I don't know, any thoughts about Peter Graves? Oh, Peter Graves. Oh, Peter Graze, Mission Impossible, the TV show. We wouldn't have those wonderful Tom Cruise films without him.

Where's the lie? Where's the lie? When you're watching Ethan Hunt go on his adventures, it's all on the back of a dreamer named Peter. Peter. You know, this feels good. Feels very positive. Get the snark out of it. Let's just compliment.

Let me, I'll say one last compliment to the, you know what's one shot I thought was really crazy and cool is when the guy, there's like, yeah, there's another old guy and he goes up like on a beam and they lift him up and he installs the main street train station, the hands on the main street train station clock, he installs them with his but I thought that was incredible. They're all loaded there and they just goes plop and they plop them in and they match the sound so perfectly because you knew they weren't recording sound but that is the plop that would come when hands come out of a butt.

From a butt thing, yeah. I just remember now from editing clip shows, it's really obvious to me that all the sound effects are fake. Yeah, yeah. Which I don't know. Jason, did you? They were really. I was listening.

This must have been recorded at the time because they're listening. listening shink, shink, shing, shing, shing. Yeah. Very clean sounding. Those are 1955 bricks. And I don't, I could be wrong, but I don't believe this is folied. I believe this is all from a sound library. I could be wrong, but they feel right.

I literally discovered, unless she's not telling the truth, but Leslie, I works said that there was a day. They got one of the best people at Skywalker's sound. They do have a foley. They did a day of custom sound record. Wow. Well, I'm wrong. I apologize, Ms.

Did somebody either laid the bricks or did whatever it takes to make something sound like laying the brick. Yeah, like, I don't know. Rubbing lemon on a horseshoe. Or sound effects work. I think it was about 20 minutes into a movie where the movie where I was like, boy, yeah, there's a lot of film cameras recording all of this. And then I realized, oh, there's no sound. There's no one capturing sound in any of these shots.

So, yeah, I guess this is all. I was fooled by Hollywood magic, and I'd like to be tricked by that every day I can. You need to learn the names of some of the sound artisans who, after the Oscars this year, just jot down the names of some of the technical category winners and complement them on their work. It shouldn't just be about the on-camera stars. No, sometimes they're more important than the on-camera stars. Flowers, there's so many flowers to be given out.

No small parts, only small actors like me. I don't know where else to go from there. No, not really. He does. He does. I got some quick kids. He's going to yell at us more for not doing the epic ride episode. He's got more chewing out.

Hey, hey, that was fun. That was all in good fun. That was teasing and good fun. I'm fine. Admiral Joe Fowler, captaining the Mark Twain opening day and Irene gaining the champagne on it. I forgot about that. We were wrapping up and then he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, Joe Fowler stuff to say.

Joe Fowler stuff. But I don't know they ever seen. Is that our link ladder at one point talking to her on the boat? And then he runs off the boat with this incredibly long bike. He's like, well, I have to go now. And he like hauls ass to get off the boat before it moved. Yeah, was that him? I actually don't remember now.

I really like the test, the Peter Pan in the warehouse. The Peter Pan technology. I agree. But it's terrifying. It's just full of unfinished ride vehicles It's warehouse and all the lights are on So I feel like that Peter Pan You know suspended ride vehicle

It's a little unnerving When you'd see everything under you You're saying like if people were under you And it was an instant a warehouse If you were like 20 feet in the air I feel like maybe that's less fun Yeah Maybe you are you are

That was nothing for these old men Yeah they weren't scared of anything I went up 100 feet today, and I did it with no shirt. Yeah, they all were... There were the wind whipping my chest hairs, my many chest hairs. They all drove, like, a flu like fighter planes, like 10 years earlier probably. Yeah, that's why. Yeah, yeah.

No, I have no problem being 100 feet in the air. I was just 10,000 feet in the car. Well, all their big cars... I fell out of the plane. I was shot down and survived. All their big cars with no seatbelts, and they're just, like, cannons firing down the highway. No can't. No seat belts, no crows.

no crush zones, you know. No crush zones. No crush zones. No crush zones. That's what it ought. Oh, the jungle crew, the first voyage of the jungle cruise where like Harper Graff is like white knuckling it. And it's, am I remembering correctly?

Is he like, I looked at the back of the boat and Walt was in it? But he was terrified. He was trying to test whether going behind the waterfall would get everyone wet. Thankfully, it didn't. I don't want to I've done a lot of little nitpicks I don't want to tell you that it's Gough not Groff but I feel like I must

Oh I that's just the spelling Yeah I wrote Groff I'm thinking of Jonathan Groff Another great actor And so we're out where What do you like him in? Well merrily we roll along That's why I say when he performs

Well Do we do it? I'm good yeah I think we did it All right Well, fantastic. I guess you survive podcast The Ride. It's a, hey, it's a fun watch.

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