Podcast: The Ride - Disneyland Paris Report with Foreign Correspondent Griffin Newman

Episode Date: November 18, 2022

Accidental P:TR legend Griffin Newman (Disenchanted, NOT ON TWITTER BANNED) returns to the show to talk about his recent excursion to Disneyland Paris.  BabyLand General Hospital Episode up at The Second Gate. GarfieldEATSUpD8 up at Club 3. Find both at Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

FOREVER! DOG! of something that itself was an episode derailing relitigation. It's an exclusive Disneyland Paris report from foreign correspondent Griffin Newman on Podcast The Ride, where we're a little worried that we might get radiation poisoning from our guest, because he's just returned from a cultural Chernobyl. I don't know what that gasp meant admiring a long walk maybe it's a short walk i just didn't know where it was it's like you stepped out your front door and i didn't know if there was any ground beneath you i first the first half is that i accuse you of having a problem of being a halting out or something.

Yeah, yeah. No. Of course, we're starting off very broad and accessible. I'm talking about the late 80s reaction to the announcement of Disneyland Paris, which presumably we will talk about to some extent. I'm Scott Gairdner. Mike Carlson's a host of the show. I am a host of the show. I'm here uh yeah the

cultural chernobyl uh uh i wonder yeah did it get did it turn anyone into an incredible hulk type uh character superhero when disneyland paris opened i don't know the answer to it certain critics maybe raged out to a hulk level exactly sheridan. I had to, yeah, I took a, had to take a second, partially because I was not 100% sure you're referring to some of the reactions of Disneyland Paris. And also, I think I've just gotten so numb to those old news articles or essays where it's just like,

City Walk, a walled city on a hill whereby upon the others gaze on the hoi polloi, you know? Is there a French Hulk? Was there ever a French Hulk in the comics? Was there a French Hulk? Yeah, was Hulk ever, was there a Hulk character that was French? I feel like that's one of the things they haven't done is sort of like the International League of Hulks. No, yeah, it's good for a beret wearing yeah it feels like the character

that would be most fun to see the specific cultural i agree i really agree yeah and i'm when i say that i mean like a cartoonish picture of a french person no no 1960 of course yeah he does he speaks so guttural though like to to to turn it. Boom, boom, boom. Right. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. Well, I guess it works perfect is what we figured out. Kind of nailed it.

Our guest today, we're excited he's here. He has assured us that we are his only podcast appearance during his current promotional tour. One and done. We're honored by that there's there's a bunch of credits and accolades that we could give you but there's one that is the most important right now

yes which is that he is the voice of a talking chipmunk in a Disney movie mother please welcome the voice of Pip in the upcoming I think out today I think when we're putting this out. Oh, wow. I believe so.

November 18th? I think so. I think that's the idea. Also, Mickey Mouse's birthday. You're in a Disney movie. Happy birthday. I didn't even know that. On the big cheese's birthday?

Yeah. This is, hey, I don't think, they don't do accidents over there. No. I think they're setting up a new Mickey Mouse. His name is Pip, and his voice's name is accidental PTR legend Griffin Newman. Thank you for that introduction. It does feel like now there's no other way to interpret it as anything but the Walt Disney Corporation, Walt Disney Studios saying the best gift we could give to Walt for his birthday is disenchanted a Disney Plus original for

families of all ages the best gift you could give to Walt for Mickey's birthday correct oh sorry yes yes right which makes sense I mean the best gift you could give

Mickey as well yeah yeah I think a new friend I think Mickey will love it I really I've been saying this a lot to everyone working on the movie I'm like I think Mickeykey's gonna really like this oh hey me patrick oh griffin must have been difficult with scheduling because they were filming sonic at the same time

my copyright's running out you're gonna have to do this from now on because i'm out of here time is of the essence um we let's just say uh because you guys i i told you almost immediately when i got this job obviously i was like yeah relevant information will you guys great news to drop that was very exciting i'll probably get in the story a little bit like but the process began the part was a little bit odd and surprising and sudden and was kind of unexpected but uh i was i was looking through old text i got the part may 2021 huh i've been working on this for like over 18 months yeah yeah and we've done multiple episodes in that time yeah and this is the first time i can acknowledge it oh geez yeah yeah you know we've been sitting on this information yeah we all

yes you're coming and hanging out with us people who talk about disney all the time the first accidental ptr legend to end up a well in contention to be a uh this is the beginning of the journey of being a purposeful disney legend choco isn't in any disney movies i was i hope not i'm worried that i'm gonna watch the next time i watch one that i suddenly get some weird flash choco flashes randy runyon could be in a disney movie and we don't know yet because we haven't seen we haven't even no one else is gonna make it i'm just saying we don't know of anyone else who has made that leap yet from yeah that's true to disney is randy runyon who played yeah. Okay. Choco hasn't come up a ton lately.

No, I would prefer he hadn't come up because I'm resting him for what I have planned. Oh, shit. I want it to be a good long time before he comes up, so I'm going to edit this out at least for the audience. Now it's another 18 minutes before you can pay off this bet. Yeah, I'm going to have to push it back 18 more months. 18 more months. He's got to find a suitable clock tower for what he's got planned high enough enough cover you don't want one side

of it to face just like a field or a brick wall you gotta it's gotta be 360 yeah i'm chuckle got to have a mailbox inside so he can get his word out before the becoming... Oh, goodness. That's a disturbingly too good of serial killer thinking. Shooter thinking? Sniper thinking? There's just not enough post office boxes now. There's not enough mailboxes. It's harder than ever to go

postal. This is a good point that Jason's making. Look, everyone is saying, art the clown this, art the clown that. They should be saying, chucko this. They are? Wait, what are they saying? Art the clown this art the clown that they should be saying choco this and they are wait what are they saying where's the clown what's that people barf and poop and yeah i have no idea what you're talking about this on an episode i just heard you talk about this on an episode yesterday i know it was recorded longer ago but i was yesterday listening to you go it's terrifying what is this so i did it then

and i'm doing it now okay okay i on i truly don't there's certain things i get the things there's things that come up on the show forget it where even where you're mike will say you don't remember this and it's because i'm it's being live erased as it's be as i'm learning it you gotta clear up like disc space it's fast yeah that is what is happening. I think we've all proven we have a lot of goddamn names in our heads at all times. If this podcast does anything, it is drop odd names of people

from all eras, except like history or anything that matters. Anything important, no. Pop culture, arcania. What is, what's, why did it come up? How recently? Recently was like two weeks ago or less. Two weeks ago?

A movie called Terrifier 2. It's a Hapox ghost episode. Yes. What? Yeah. That just came out. Terrifier 2 is in theaters now. I was listening to this yesterday.

Terrifier 2 is in theaters. To you, it's so fresh. And people are puking and passing out because it's so gross. Oh, I remember that. It's Art the Clown. Art the Clown is the evil clown in the movie. I don't know that we named Art the Clown, though. Okay.

Maybe. There we go. Because I remember hearing about, well, isn't this another one of these? This is a situation, much like another situation that happened recently, involved where you remembered it one way, but maybe somebody was not there speaking. I think that the crosstalk here was confusing as far as this was more obscured. What you're speaking about is a clear misjudgment on my part. I think this here is a little bit more obscured as far as what had happened.

We got to check the tape. I don't, I'm not confident that I've heard the name Art the Clown. I think, I think you may be right. Okay. I think, Jason, thank you for catching it. Thanks for being apologetic. confident that i've heard the name art the clown i think i think you may be right okay i think jason thank you for catching it thanks for being apologetic and thank you for being an arbiter here mike has an excuse so getting like three hours of sleep at night i just am really still enmeshed in absorbing guys names and what's happening instead of pushing out actual memories

the guys are pushing out the previous guys so every now and then a running joke will come out and i'll go like yeah yep uh-huh there's a finite amount of space on the hard drive yeah and if you're adding new things you gotta delete some old files now i want to say this i do you gotta add some memory you do have to maybe have to buy an external hard drive how do you do that in your brain? Well, I'm always working on my brain because I have all those alerts and notifications. So I'm actually continually expanding it. Oh, so that's the expanding. Yeah, it's like that surgery you get when you're short that keeps extending your legs.

I found out Rivers Cuomo had 20 years old. No, he did? Yes, he did. And he said it didn't work and they had to do a different version of it. After all this, now Rivers is coming up. He was like Conan O'Brien's podcast. After all this, Ralph Rivers is coming up. It was like Conan O'Brien's podcast. This is what I was going to say.

I do feel like, and this is once again in Scott's defense, and I'm not going to take Scott's defense on everything here. Because there's a lot of things that need to be done in this episode today. People might look at this title and go, that seems vague in general. There's a reason why. It's because there's so many different things to hit we did not want to talk about it there was an idea of a more specific episode and we threw it out because there's so much odd business there's a

lot of we will talk about your trip to disneyland paris let's be clear about that correspondence yes a new title another on top of that you're pip and you're the legend we also have to service the premise that you're the foreign correspondent right and mike said is this or maybe you said is this competing with jason's status as cub reporter i said i would never touch that i didn't feel threatened i would never touch that i didn't one of my favorite sort of ongoing threads in ptr lore i'm asking for a different space far away from cup reporter yeah yeah very literally far away you went physically i will not report on anything within the continental united states wow great i will say that okay that's not my job here okay okay geez well but it leaves him to do it get reporting yeah

i do feel like the number of guys has been multiplying exponentially recently i think guys are multiplying at a an astonishing rate and i think scott has been feeling this frustration of i'm i'm being treated like i should know these guys who are these i don't remember these guys and it's like it feels like every episode we're adding five or ten new guys. Now, this having been said, I texted you guys and I said, I just listened to the Frank Marshall Gate episode on the second gate. What was it? The false start. Patreon.com slash podcast.

Yeah. Yeah. We'll have some backstory explaining to do. Yes. The episode is called False Start uh frank marshall gate right and i listen to this episode and i say to you guys i think this is the best episode you've ever done i think this is the best piece of ptr content that has ever been released and i want to re-litigate it on the show there's still more on the main feed for the first time because this is entirely

this is the whole point scott you're like maybe we do a bonus and we do is we do two records back to back and we do a little frank marshall gate follow-up because that whole narrative has been entirely behind the paywall yeah i have come here today trying to force frank marshall gate onto main feed there's a reason i refuse to spin this off into another episode, I think right now, this thread has been reserved for the elites. It's been placed on a high shelf for the PTR donors. The blue check marks, if you will. Absolutely. Griffin walked into this garage holding a kitchen sink

with a shit-eating grin on his face, and he's like... I think this needs to become a main thread. Okay. Do we need to explain any Backstory before you go into Anything you want to go into This is part of what needs to be accomplished I was prepared for this

I have notes in case Let's explain the whole story here So on A different second gate episode Horror Hall of Fame With Andrew Grissom We discussed these These old horror award shows And one award was given to

Frank Marshall The director of Arachnophobia That's why he was there You might also know him As a producer You're getting to see it This is what he does All you have to do is say the words Frank Marshall

He goes off into a better place In his mind If I could just have the show only be about Frank Marshall And not theme parks I'd be very pleased So You might know that name because he's the producer Of many giant films Steven Spielberg films

And of course Hoot and the bfg of course married to kathleen kennedy who's the head of star wars at this point started out as a one of peter bradonovich's protégés his first job is on last picture show and he was very instrumental in other side of the wind both in its original aborted production and actually getting it finished yeah a legend in hollywood honestly a quiet legend i think this is important to point out because i feel like sometimes i'm gonna play both sides of this this is an even-handed discussion right yeah i just think this needs to be discussed in full i feel like sometimes when you are dismissing the notion that mike is presenting frank marshall as an important figure in hollywood you and i understand this is a comedy show, and you're a very funny man and I respect this.

And you get the laugh out of me when you do this. We'll lead with credits such as Hoot in the BFG, which you did again just now. It is. Yep, you're right. You will say the director of Arachnophobia and the producer of such big movies as, and you're not mentioning the fact that he produced the Indiana Jones films. Yes, of course. Yes.

Yeah, yeah. E.T. That he's been nominated for many Academy Awards. Yes. Yeah, yeah. E.T. He's been nominated for many Academy Awards. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Now, he was being given an award for arachnophobia. This is relevant. That is relevant.

But then you're looking for the easy laugh on BFG and who? A little undercut. But look, no. It's a little undercut. This is true. He is a major figure, and I acknowledge this. But let me shift it over here. None of that is why he comes up all the fucking time. He comes up because's jimmy buffett's best friend he's jimmy buffett's best friend and he

comes up all the time because i learned that he was like jimmy buffett's best friend and it tickles me it delights me to no end and i've been thinking about this because i've been trying to prepare mentally for this because i know you brought you were going to bring this up yeah and if i even flesh it out more of why i like it, he's always with him in the background. Frank Marshall, who's this Hollywood legend who's got, you might not know unless you're a nerd for these names, but Frank Marshall, he just goes and follows Jimmy on tour for multiple days. And then he comes out and he's in the background on stage playing Margaritaville on a guitar,

which is adorable. It's so cute to me. I love it. It's adorable and cute. It's so cute to me. I love it. Adorable and cute is fascinating to me. Don't you think it's cute that Frank Marshall is with his friend Jimmy Buffett? He loves him. He loves the music.

He has to love the music. There's no way he doesn't love the music. Very cute. I think it's not just cute that he does it, but that Jimmy allows it. It seems like equals. Different feels, but appreciation for what the others let me say this i do find that interesting that he shows up on stage and plays guitar that

he has a whole other career esteemed in this other category and he ends up on guitar playing margaritaville at a concert something else to say though you've never brought up that one that is interesting that makes me go like frank marshall that makes me more interested in him all i've ever heard is he's jimmy buffett's best friend that's the only fact that and much like the fucking briefcase story i don't get enough of like like information about why like i like when you give me more morsels i'm like okay that is interesting i do i did like hearing that yeah well i mean i you give me more morsels i'm like okay that is interesting i do i did like hearing that yeah well i mean i think there's other morsels i've said that i i can't remember

specifically what i've said in this show i don't know if it's just jason and i are in such like agreement that of like loving frank marshall texting instagram posts to each other i think maybe we just share a common marshall language that we maybe haven't conveyed to you or the audience perhaps this is perhaps what what i my true agenda i have come here with today uh-huh is that when you re-litigate it to try to touch back on the frank marshall gate which which you get to the the actual incident yeah yeah should i say oh no go ahead yeah uh things i would argue almost got even more testy nothing was settled no no no i feel like there are some cleaner tunnels of communication that can be built here i think it was just built this you gave me more context for why the frank

marshall jimmy buffett connection is interesting okay so we're we're figuring it out working on this yeah because keep in mind, I come here as a group therapist. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Yes. Because like,

you know what I've just, something I've just learned is that you guys go off the PTR text thread to do Frank Marshall sharing is thinking that I'm not going to be interested, but now that's left me with a big gulf of knowledge that I don't have. And especially that the audience does not have. They are not on your text thread. So some of the things that are interesting to you, you've never told the audience. Scott, this is a great point.

I do think that perhaps, and I am similarly fascinated with Frank Marshall. And being a movie nerd who is very aware of him and his name yeah and then just hearing mike say he is jimmy buffett's best friend the math was done in my head it is funny for that guy to be jimmy buffett's best friend okay versus if he is presented to you as jimmy buffett's best friend and that is your starting point you go why the fuck am i hearing about him sure now i'm aware of the body of work. I'm just not specifically fascinated. I've seen that name always. I've watched enough interviews with him.

It's funny, his temperament, the vision, the visual I have of him in my head. It's like, oh, what if Brian Grazer would just follow Eric Clapton around and get on stage? Once in a while, puts the guitar on. Right, right. And also probably once in a while gets covid doing all of this just pops up up there this has got to stop strobing through his veins it's it's just it's an odd dynamic and i do think there's something i find funny of like frank marshall is so powerful in hollywood right you compare with kathleen kennedy who like the last fucking five

years a cottage industry has developed on people writing fan fiction about what Kathleen Kennedy is doing behind closed doors. He's pulling out fully from whole cloth, making up things that we don't know. Right. Whereas he is like, their reputations were tied. They are married. They were producing partners with Spielberg on the best of the best run he had. I think it's from E.T. on or it's Raiders on maybe.

Yeah, something like that. Yeah, it's like an incredible run basically until she goes off to do Star Wars and he became more Jurassic Stewart and the Pep Projects and whatever. His movies he has directed tend to be a little goofy. Congo, Eight Below, Arachnophobia. They are not Spielberg level films. Sure. People like Arachnophobia, I feel like. Fun movies.

Yeah. I think Congo's fun, you know? But it's like, his producing work is so high caliber. Did he do the recent Bee Gees documentary? Did I see that? I believe. Yeah, yeah. Which I liked.

That was good. I've talked about it on the show, even. He does a lot of rock. He loves, he's a rock guy too But that's That's what's funny about him Is it's not like Oh this guy's a parrot head

It's like This guy is like The Gallagher 2 of Jimmy Buffett That you can see him Put on the shirt Strap on the guitar Get backstage

And you're like This is his second life This feels like his real joy His real passion And then shit Where like Jimmy Buffett Sh shows up in Jurassic World. You're like, he's in so deep. It's all the little stuff.

Like Jimmy Buffett doing Don't Bug Me on the Arachnophobia soundtrack. You go, oh, there it is. And then like he's on, he's guesting on different things. And they're like pictures of him in a plane with Frank Marshall 25 years ago. And you're like, wow, they've been friends forever. And I'm glad you set up at the beginning of this episode, Scott, that you think this is going to be a clean accessible entry point for new listeners yeah that's the goal of this episode not to get into arcana happy you're enjoying it

so much mythology that you get to you get to go on such a treasure hunt but i think you're making a good point which is i think that mike and jason have a pre-established language and dialogue about buffett clearly i didn't know about this texting right so yes this might have been a pre-podcast because i think yeah i i think we were just delighted people are writing articles about i remember people are like kathleen kennedy is under fire for whatever people are mad about star wars or whatever and then i think i'm sending you like instagram posts like frank marshall like like arms around jimmy buffett with a cocktail or something like it's far away he's not he's never there he's just hanging out he's living the life no this is like i'm friends with all three of you guys yeah you have a group text but also each of us has a separate text because sometimes there'll

be a conversation i don't need to send this to all the other guys you and i have our specific things we talk about mike and i have a where we just talk about deals on action figures. That's right. And gossip on social media, right? Yeah, very quickly after his daughter was born, you were talking about deals. New Avatar figure reveals. They look pretty good. I'm at New York Comic Con, and I'm texting Mike about meeting guys who are only known within the action figure world.

Yeah, yeah. meeting guys who are only known within the action figure world. Yeah. And at some point, I think I accidentally send one of those texts to our group thread rather than yours. And you kind of react with like, this is fascinating hearing you guys gawk about people I've never heard of. Yeah. Could not imagine putting this importance on. It's an alternate dimension.

Like, of course we do that. We have our guys who we do that with, but hearing some like arbitrary dull name to me and i was knowing that he's a rock star to you guys i was like i just met blainer things today and mike is like holy shit i think you said that's bigger than if you met oh toby andrew well that was that was the marvel legends guys yes i met the three marvel legends not that i wasn't excited that you met Blayner, because I was very excited about Blayner as well.

Yeah, and he was like, that's bigger than. And you were sort of enjoying the like, I like that I don't know this, and I'm hearing you freak out about names that mean nothing to me. There's an opposite effect going on with the Frank Marshall thing, where there's a presumption that you should know and care.

That's right. Which then angers you. I think that, yes. The idea that I'm supposed to retain things often is a frustration. Now, I understand where Mike is coming from, to be fair here, because he's like, it has come up a lot. This should have made the impact. But I think it was never properly established. Yeah. So it's been said, but it hasn't stuck in your craw yet and as i said

about uh the the clown about like our big clown yeah i like there are certain things that i am learning it and erasing it the pencil and is moving just barely in front of the eraser you never had all the pieces arranged in the right order i by chance was similarly fascinated with frank marshall could hear mike and jason using shorthand to talk about the buffett stuff do the math in my head yeah yeah but perhaps for the common listener and even a common co-host of this show that math was not so apparent well this i i apologies uh aaron if you don't want to be brought into this conversation but my wife i when i explained frank marshall gate to her she was like do you talk about frank marshall on the show and i was like i think we do but you are erasing it live as it's happening it is not sticking with you mike's contention

this is one of the top 10 guys i think is perhaps false did i say oh yeah i guess well this is yeah this is when i caught re-listening to it that I was immediately, I was like, how did I not catch that one in the moment that you declare that, which by the way, let me say this part as we're deep into it now. And I think that the amount of buildup we're adding to this before we explain to mainly the only listeners what the incident is. Okay. okay the the incident all this being said uh we that we were at the premiere of jurassic world ride right and reminded of this because of the arachnophobia clip the name frank marshall was said mike started grinning wider than i've ever seen like the joker like a joker jason changed seeing your daughter for the first time yeah no i wasn't even close to that but it was more maniacal when frank marshall comes up there was a sweeter smile with my daughter well this is one where i started feeling that feeling where i started to get horrified where i was like

do i not remember frank marshall being there like oh yes of course michael uh-huh you disagree let me let me wait your choice of word was horrified. This situation was high stakes enough that horrified was the word. It shares my feeling about him and was actually horrified because he should remember. Jason knows he would be a good boy and he should know that. He remembers. Well, because I called, there was a bunch of people out. Look, there's so-and-so, there's so-and-so in the crowd. But that said, I did feel better when we realized he did not speak.

He did not speak he did not speak okay okay so the story is to be told the story is that it comes up we're at this event and mike goes out of his way the topic's been changed mike goes out of his way to say now remember that we all went to the event where we saw frank marshall speak and then we all did not remember this happening. And you got very argumentative, voice raised. You don't remember Frank Marshall speaking? Flew into a frenzy. The tone is locked in my head now. You pointed at us, accusations,

that we did not remember a speech by this Hollywood luminary and Jimmy Buffett's best friend. You're feeling attacked. Jason is wondering if his memory is going. It is going. For you you you're saying i would have remembered which we many things have established jason's memory for sure is going but but then it turns out we had the better memory because we didn't have right a memory of something that didn't happen only reinforced by scott did you post the picture of our view

this was something you brought up you said well we might not have we might have had an obstructed view and you yourself might have had an extra obstructed view I always have an obstructed view with these kind of standing events like concerts like the exact point of view we had the group of people doing this photo op again we're ignoring Chris Pratt big movie stars who cares whatever Marshall, there's a big speaker in front of Frank Marshall, ironically a speaker, in front of somebody who was not a speaker at this event. You caught yourself,

Frank Marshall did not speak, an executive named Ron Meyer spoke, so you were scolding us about not remembering a speech that did not happen. That's the story. Jason is going, what does it say about me if I don't remember this?

I should remember this. And you, Scott, are responding with the attitude of, I am angry that you are implying that this should be remembered in abstract. Yes, at that point, the reality was that he did speak.

Even if it did happen. Yes. What could he possibly have done Why would I remember this? What could he possibly have done that would have made this memorable to me? Mike is doubling down on the, you don't remember this? You don't remember him speaking? He took the mic. He then, of course, says, do you remember the fireworks?

Because there was a big blast of fireworks soon after this. And I posited, of course I remember when there was a bunch of fire in the sky that somehow was more memorable to me than an old man speaking who i unlike you griffin have never seen one piece of video of i've never been sent one piece of video of him you guys are the ones texting about i can't believe we're talking about this more and longer. So much talking about it. There are certain listeners, just delete your complaints about it. We don't want to see them. We have business to attend to in this garage, and you know you've got to put up with bullshit as a listener.

So, that said, more bullshit. Do you have another direction you want to take this? Well, I think, look, I... You guys... Let me quickly, just for context frank marshall was there he was there yes he did not i just i caught myself on the episode about five minutes later after i came down my blood pressure came down a little bit and i went oh my god maybe i was wrong was it a different old man that taught was there it's like didn't say that but it was there a different person that talked and i'm misremembering i did misremember he was on stage there's clear as day pictures he's there i can identify him the police can go we can go down i'm sure

there's a record of it there to prove the pictures are fine the pictures we do not need to involve the police in this matter i'm just saying this the universal city police they have their own police they were probably there protecting him that night because he's a national treasure and they'll tell us yes he was there so i wasn't completely crazy and as i said on the episode uh uh it didn't even really matter to me and this is how this is my way out this is your double down this is my double down didn't even matter that he spoke just him being up on the stage elicited the same excitement from me at the time and also you should have remembered that so you should have remembered a guy walking a guy who i also in the moment could not see because there was big audio

equipment stopping me from seeing him i needed to remember that something that i could not see or hear because he didn't do anything uh with his mouth so the target moves right it moves from i can't believe you didn't remember hearing this man speak on stage in front of fireworks, too. He was one of many people on stage. One of seven people on a stage. In a very crowded event. 200 yards away. 300 yards away.

Many of whom, most of whom are not Chris Pratt, are not recognizable to the common man. They're behind the scenes. Even Colin Trevorrow the scenes very large speech about the power of storytelling right i understand look and i understand this of course i remember that i remember everything he's ever done yes yeah yeah so i understand that but yes then so he was up there i caught myself luckily because i hate being i hate i hate misremembering but it's three years ago and all i all i was remembering was the excitement of seeing him up there. And that's what the energy that was pulsing from my body when I was saying,

I can't believe you don't remember, was that he was on stage. And I did feel the excitement was rushing back to me. So all this serves as like your explanation for why you got so animated and upset. It's not, I don't think you're putting on me that i needed to remember it you're just explaining why it suddenly became you don't remember yes yes that's why yes that is why because i personally felt so excited that was maybe the best celebrity sighting i had that night sure so i was remembering that no one here seemingly cares about chris pratt one of the biggest movie stars

in the world it just does not you you completely threw him under the bus as an interesting celebrity so you get defensive about the idea that you think mike is attacking you for not remembering and then your retaliation is why would i remember that that's not important which makes mike more defensive because i belittled frank marshall right comes was this even worth remembering which once we then get to it never happened it's an escalating argument about a theoretical i now can see you've actually you've made an argument to me of why the episode was uh more interesting than i thought it was yes now that you lay it out in these now that now that

you're doing the like 10 part true crime series about the 20 minute podcast fragments that we put out because also that we started this as the top of an episode it got so long that we bailed yeah and started the episode over something we might have to do right now too what we're doing again but i don't want it behind the paywall and i'm very happy to uh fulfill your you're the guest and we need to go with your wishes i agree okay we might have to sell but i do i do think there's a thing and i i think part of what's interesting about this to me is you guys just celebrated your fifth anniversary that's right that's true yeah thank you it's a bit of a threshold crossed right sure yeah half a decade it's no mickey's birthday but it's no you know in our world it means something you made something the copyright on jason sheridan is still many years to go before it wears off and people can use him in the public domain before you

have to start splintering him into sub jason's and arguing that there's a distinct different pair exactly now jason has a different copyright date republican senators to go like please extend the copyright date somebody's doing like a twisted horror movie with jason sheridan in the public domain we don't want that it's not even a good movie it's just exploit it's just the idea that they could do a year away still i do think there's this thing, though. Like the Doughboys, Friends of Ours. Sure. Great podcast. The fighting has been baked into the cake on that show since the very beginning.

Yeah, yeah. Right? For sure. I think it preceded the show. I understand. I think a very mean text thread for a long time. Correct. They're like the Lockhorns of podcast right oh this is i want to hear every

jason just looked up from his ipad we tune into watch them fight and this is a thing that i think you cannot manufacture right it is why we all look at the the doughboys with awe because we're like the dynamic is so perfect writers could not write create it in a lab and there is the underlying truth where like these guys do like each other they are perhaps loath to admit it but if they really hated each other the show would have ended years ago rather than every episode ending with them saying we should end the show yeah anytime they could do it at any moment and they don't david and i my blank check host david sims we've had these fights as well very early on in the show we had a big fight where i started pushing

forward the theory that has existed for a long time in fan communities that the reason the star wars special editions exist and why george lucas does not allow the original cuts into circulation is because his wife his ex-wife marshall lucas was one of the editors on the original theatrical cut and by only putting the special editions in circulation she no longer is entitled to residuals whoa wow that's heavy the fight we got into about why are you still talking about this was very similar to marshall gate it was an early inflection point in the podcast where it's like is there trouble in paradise ah oh are you worried about us yeah is that where we're headed here i'm saying

to a certain degree it defies logic that you guys have gone five years without this big of a blow-up huh but there's been look i mean randy gerber's the biggest irritated scott to the fucking moon but i'm saying i think this has been building. Some of these tensions have been building. Sure, sure. I think it's like, you three guys, you're friends to different degrees, right? You come together, you go, we all have this shared interest. Let's start doing this.

At the beginning of the podcast, it's all about the unification of, we know these same guys. Yeah. Bob, Gurr. This is a safe space where we can throw that name out. We all know these guys the shared language that yeah we've we never even checked with each other about a lot of things over time the thing expands the mythology expands more things get pulled in from individual lives right and there starts to become this imbalance of like you prefer talking about this and dislike this more, you know? Whatever it is.

Not to, like, extreme, you know, sort of, like, fight degree. But those things start to develop. And there started to be this thing of, like, Beach Boys versus Gerber versus 20s con artists. I'm so upset that you would pair those. How dare you? But I think Frank Marshallgate is actually a healthy thing to have happened. Yes. Okay.

And to work through. Because I think if Podcast of the Right is going to exist for another 5, 10, 15 years, which I hope it does. Yeah, I hope so too. At a certain point, you guys need to learn how to coexist with when there's a zag into one guy's corner. Ah, yes. Yeah, yeah.

When we're so thoroughly yanked into one guy. Right. Without it feeling like, I'm angry, you don't care about this as much as I do. Or I'm angry, you're angry that I don't care about this as much as you do. Yeah. But you know who could diffuse these sorts of conflicts among podcasters? Hollywood super producer like Frank Marshall.

Oh, because he's dealing with talent, you mean. He's got to diffuse the studio and the director and the talent. Our Country Bear Patreon episode got very contentious. He would have been perfect there to mitigate some of that. So...

Griffin, have you seen the Country Bears movie first of all i have i'll say i only i haven't re-watched it okay i saw it on vhs the year of its release okay i i owe it another look okay i remembered liking some of it sure i mean that's essentially our that's what we've gotten i said jason hated. Most urgent matter of business, we've got to make the game time decision. Is this the first 45 minutes of an episode or is this once again being spun off into the third part of the Marshall Gate trilogy?

It could be a bonus on the main feed. There are a lot of options here. I just think the question is, do we now think anyone who isn't invested in this narrative has turned off the episode angry that we are not talking about well the question do you care about disneyland paris enough and you're look we this is why look it's why we bailed on a bigger topic yes because like what what we've essentially been teeing up is like a trip report uh because you went to disneyland paris it's like something that like where we don't owe a lot of like a history of something right only the history

of a weird thing that's been happening with us for the last you know what so yes let's say this is one episode i think this is the choice yeah assuming you feel good about it i do it's your i do i do i do yeah and i'll say that this was sort of just to explain to people how we end up on this, right? Yeah. My brother, James, lives in Paris now. He works for a Parisian basketball team, which exists. That is a thing. He is like the Jonah Hill and Moneyball to this team.

Oh, wow. The quiet guy who does the analytics and tries to pick players. He's very good at this. I don't understand how his brain works but you were saying you're maybe not a big sports person but this you're fascinated but like what your brother uh this way he gets to operate yeah well look first of all i i went to two games with him i had not visited him since he moved to paris he started he got this job right before the pandemic and then he had to because of the pandemic do the job for a year remotely and then he moved out to paris about i guess a year and a half ago so he's been out there since then and i've not been able to visit it's been overdue

and i was like i love paris i would love to visit him i'd love to go see a game i have not been to disneyland paris since I was a very small child. Yes, you said you had gone a handful of times as a child? So when I was a kid and I was obsessed with theme parks and I watched that, what was that show called? Inside Disney World? The one that George Warman? Disney World Inside Out.

You watched that on the Disney channel? I watched it all the time. Oh, man. And I would say to my parents, why aren't you taking me to Disney World? And my mother would say, I took you to Euro Disney when you were two. Don't you remember? She would hold up a photo. I might have been younger than two.

It was before my brother was born. And my mom couldn't have been far along pregnant. And there's a three-year difference between us. So I was two and change at the oldest. And there was a photo she would hold up in my face to spite me of me as a toddler wearing a mickey mouse rain slicker saying we went it rained we left early what i'm like i have no memory of this and she'd be like well i took you you can't say i didn't take you yeah yeah it sounds suspiciously similar to things that have been happening in this room a little bit my mom was you don't you don't remember going to to... Your two-year-old memory didn't...

Do you remember the castle? Sacre bleu. It was the original Spank Marshall game. No, my mother... You just said a French thing? That was what you brought to the... I was... What do I...

Bonjour! Disaffected. I was... Disaffected. It's almost like you woke up and you're like, Sacre bleu. Sacre bleu! You didn't even know we were talking about that's just how

you wake up from naps innate response your survival instinct as i say sacre bleu um my my mother is french she grew up in paris so that we would visit sometimes. And when I was like maybe 10, if even that, 9 or 10, my dad took my brother and I. This was when my sister was a little baby. So it was just the three of us. And we went for like half a day maybe. Is this point in time pre the second gate, the studios? Correct. Okay, okay.

Because what? That opens 02? I believe so. Yes. This was late 90s. It would have been, I think. Even mid-90s, perhaps. That was the last time I'd gone.

And I've gone to visit Paris since then. Every time I do the thing that I, you've sort of said, when you went there on your honeymoon, even as a man who hosts a theme park podcast, going, is this silly to be spending a day here, rather than spending time in Paris? Well, look, that thought did not occur to me until it was too late to change the plan. It is a place. I was there thinking it is silly

that we chose to spend so much time here. I would say go for sure. Yes. But be careful. I was happy that I went. But I think it is very much the nature of that place that the second you step foot on the grounds, you go, is it silly that I'm here? Same thing with you. Yeah.

Yeah. And I'm happy that I went. But every time I've gone to Paris, I do have that thing where I'm like, I like theme parks. It's right there. It's a quick day trip. Sure. Is it silly if I go? So I haven't gone the last couple of times.

I planned this trip to go visit my brother. I reached out to you guys. I know I'm going to be in L.A. afterwards. it disenchanted it's coming out and i want to come talk about and i go i'll go to parrot let's find a thing that's like a fun special occasion but we could talk about a paris attraction which don't get discussed that much yeah right and the thing that was immediately thrown out was the new avengers ride yeah that's a new ride that's only in paris that's right. Yes, you were maybe the, yeah, this is a brand new thing.

The first to talk about any of Avengers campus in Paris. Right, so I was like, well, let's just assume that's the episode. Uh-oh. And I'll just, I'll say this quick

because you have to get this out of the way. You know, the ride is like a re-skinned rock and roller coaster. Yes. It's a word to keep in mind. Aerosmith has been stripped from this ride rock and roller coaster. Yes. Keep in mind, Aerosmith has been stripped from this ride. Travesty.

I feel like you guys have talked about this principle a lot on the show. Anytime Disney has tried to develop a roller coaster with a narrative, they often bump against this thing of it is hard to tell a story at very high speeds. Yeah, with old technology. I know Guardians in Florida supposedly is better at it a story at very high speeds. Yeah, especially with old technology.

Like, I know Guardians in Florida supposedly is better at it. I'm very curious to see that. Technology is better for it. That's built from the ground up, trying to rethink how to do this. Yeah, kind of can rotate you towards important stuff. But I've also heard, like, yeah, a number of people are getting off this ride very nauseous. I've heard this as well. And I've heard this from people who love the ride.

Yeah. I do think. Terrifier 2 style. Pissing, shitting, puking. Art the Clown. I got it now. He's operating. Now I got Art the Clown.

The Guardian's ride. He's pulling the levers. Oh, no. Suck it, blur. So this is. That was. Your mother is French. It was funny. It was funny. Jason, it's getting funny. No, it makes sense. It makes sense it makes sense yeah no no it was really funny and i liked it

um so this is this is rock and roller coaster this ride with this infamous launch this very quick acceleration flat into super high speeds right yeah yeah um most of rock and roller coaster the narrative legwork is done by the opening because they know that once you're on the ride you're not gonna be able to follow the story so you're watching this whole video yeah iliana douglas ken marino then you get on the ride and then at that point all you have to track is the song yeah it's i think even less in the paris version is my recollection that like you don't even get the the like the the narrative of the road sign or you go through the Hollywood. I think it's just lights and concerts.

It looks like staging more than it does. Like you're traveling on the landmarks of Los Angeles. You're going to hear a rock song you know while you're on a fast-paced car ride, right? Yeah. A lot of the pre-show stuff is in French, which I do not speak anywhere close to fluently. I am not totally getting the pre-show stuff, which is, there's not as much of a pre-show scene clear. There's just some screens around you that are setting up some plot points I don't understand. Who's in, what are you looking at?

Well, so the weird thing they do in Disneylandneyland paris is a lot of french people are bilingual yeah and you have a lot of english-speaking uh european countries adjacent countries that come and visit disneyland paris so a lot of the rides the the choice they make is you have two characters and one of them speaks in english and one of them speaks in french oh which is what they do on cars road trip correct which i believe you went we'll get to that we're like cruiser meadows speaks in english and sally speaks in french i think and they're in conversation they're not echoing the same points like making sure it's repeated for both audiences very strange one will say something and the other will respond in a different language it's cgi iron man and captain marvel i believe it really is brie larson but i'm also like single writer so i'm like breezing through the pre-show thing right and

i mean you were only there once you probably should have experienced the line i i actually and this is yeah you should have i fucked up i fucked up i really did because i think this ride might have been more pre-show than anything, even though it didn't seem like there was a lot of pre-show. I was joking. And then everybody just said, yes, that's right. That's correct. They have all the signs that are like, don't go on this if you're pregnant.

If you have back problems, take your hats off, loose articles, all this stuff. High speed ride, right? And it's the only ride that on the sign says, remove your glasses. Really? Oh. Which I feel like i don't see anywhere right and you don't on things you don't just like out of caution do it or i never have thought to i guess maybe if on a crazy upside down roller coaster which i don't do a ton if they're like all loose objects but certainly for disney where i'm like no one's telling me to take off my glasses but i'm like i'm gonna fucking keep them on no one no one before the ride vehicle goes off is like glasses need to come off right that's like a six flags thing yes right not a disney intense

thrill rides the expensive coasters it feels like you should be able to wear whatever you want and it's not gonna fly off right but it is that thing where right when the thing's about to take off and i know it's gonna do that insane rock and roller coaster like zero to 150 whatever ramp up i'm not 150 what is it it's like 60 fastest ever made it feels so fucking oh yeah it's crazy yeah yeah um i was like i'm gonna feel like such a fucking idiot if i lose my glasses in this flight in this ride do i even want to take the risk so i put my glasses in my pocket, in this ride? Do I even want to take the risk? So I put my glasses in my pocket. The thing ramps up and I quickly realize

this ride is just rock and roll a coaster, but three times it stops at a screen for 15 seconds. Really? Whoa. And then you're on a screen for 15 seconds with Iron Man and Captain Marvel.

Every other line is in French and I didn't have my glasses on. I couldn't see what was happening. Wait, it stops on the coaster? Correct. talk how does it start again i don't know it would just stop and then there's a screen and i'm like i can see a blurry image of cgi captain marvel and iron man in space fighting aliens i could not even identify which alien race it was and i know the marvel alien races not assume it's chitauri maybe from the first avengers flying around i was like are they scrolls because they were like in space huh yeah i don't know but but it was like and i'm getting

half the dialogue it's like 10 to 15 second show scenes it's truly just a screen and then the thing ramps up again and that's not even it's full stop it's not even you're moving kind of slow my memory is full stop and at that point i'm like Fuck I need my glasses For this And I'm trying with The harness down To like Fish my glasses Out of my pocket And put them on quickly

And take them off Before the ride And I get off the ride It's over like Within you know A minute and a half Because it's a high speed thing And I step off it

And I think I text him I'm like I can't talk about this ride In the podcast I don't think it's good I also really Have no idea What I just witnessed

This is fascinating to me Because It felt really janky What I'm interested in About is the stopping Because if it's stopped Like Yes

What I From what I understand Which is Surprisingly very little About roller coasters Sure After doing this show For five years

But what I understand Like when I Tony Baxter talked about Trying to redo Big Thunder out here Because he was disappointed In the third part of it The third act of it Because it doesn't go as fast There's the second part redo Big Thunder out here because he was disappointed in the third part of it, the third act of it, because it doesn't go as fast.

There's the second part of Big Thunder where you're kind of going around that curve is the most exciting. But he was saying, like, there's really no way because of physics to get that last chunk going faster. So they put in special effects at the end with, like, the TNT and stuff to make something feel like it's kind of a climax. But he said, like, you'd have to rebuild the track. There'd be no way. So I'm very confused by this. Did they add in, like, some sort of... Mechanics?

Yeah, like, mechanics, that thing, like, where... Because you're on Hagrid's when you're doing the coaster. It's many times you kind of stop, and then there's these things you go through that, like, kind of ramp you up, like you're in Mario Kart, and you hit one of those little light-up spots. spots that's what it felt like because certainly after the first screen stopped the ride never got as fast again right because i could i couldn't i feel like it couldn't

yeah it couldn't because rock and roller coaster i think is a pretty simple mechagnet where it's like you are launched it's an old you're like shot out of a cannon, you just zoom. Momentum carries you the way of the ride, and then you brake sharply at the end. But yeah, Hagrid's or other more modern coasters, there's little launches along the way to account for show scenes. I will say this. The show building itself looked nice. I think walking around the Avengers campus in Paris, it looks good to a certain degree. The walk around quality of it is perhaps better than anaheim i was impressed on that level it's this ride it's spider-man which i did not feel

the need to go on again sure and then they have two different restaurants one of which i believe is called tony stark's pizza and pasta factory which i found very funny that's very funny yeah very funny it serves a little pasta in a cup and there's a hulk buster and then there was a there was a pym's kitchen okay and they they did really good show scenes they have a similar sort of catwalk thing yeah but i think the buildings look more distinct there i think it feels less like just a military base yeah it feels a little more sci-fi right and the show scenes i saw were really good avengers was the only thing i like wait online for for a little more sci-fi right and the show scenes i saw were really good avengers was the only thing i like wait online for for a little bit but the single rider q was outside of the building i think

that's where i fucked up so you did miss i was i missed something maybe but they did a good i saw black widow spider-man and black panther fight taskmaster and it was fun it was a good like 10 plus minute routine wow wow they're similar like a show that walks kind of here yeah the door milaje came out they did a sort of ceremonial like thing all of that was good uh but this avengers ride is like the building itself looks good yeah the ride is kind of incomprehensible and i will say because of the stopping and starting it made me feel pretty nauseous there was something very disorienting about just the like you're done you're at a screen you're so overstimulated that it's hard to even focus

on the screen especially if you only speak one out of two languages that are being used by characters on screen and your glasses are in your pocket they tell you to take your glasses off yeah where does that leave it when you have captions and that's oh yeah i always take i since i was a teenager i've carried a glasses case with now i carry two glasses case with me one for glasses one for sunglasses i mean this is my but that is a pain in the ass yes yeah my advice to anyone going on this ride is either a leave your glasses on i don't think they're gonna fall off your face okay especially if you're like wearing a face mask like i was the second i stepped off the ride i was like i could have fucking looped oh yeah your things around the glasses as extra protection i would have been fine right but

otherwise if you really want to cover your ass get fucking like prescription sports goggles because otherwise this ride is nothing which is a tall order to go on one roller coaster but otherwise not worth going on. Wow. Yeah. Geez. Not a good... By the way, I didn't know the name of it even. It's called Avengers Assemble Flight Force.

Yeah. Which is a very Six Flags-y title. And by the way, you only get two members. From my memory, it's just Iron Man and Captain Marvel. It's the two who can fly. That's what I was going to say. I don't think they use that catchphrase when it's just like, hey, it's shift and the swing shit so whoever's taking over at night shift get them up to speed you know wait a minute i'm on there's not an official wikipedia page for this ride which is the school

i'm not giving people proprietary information this is not the first like yeah yeah we did i have i've never heard any of this but it's not a full episode it's we have less to say than frank marshall gate but it does need to be discussed Did you look up any YouTube ride throughs Or anyone strapped a GoPro Are there good ones on I looked yeah there's okay ones

But it's hard to tell The other thing is for most of the ride you're just in A dark show building and you're just moving really fast And it's not really illuminated There's not a lot there other than the screens can i read something off of i was saying there's not a wikipedia but there is a disney.fandom.com okay someone explains here is why in a ride called avengers assemble very few avengers assembled right in the queue iron man tries to iron man tries to ask ant-man rocket raccoon captain america and miss marvel for help but can't get their help as they're busy in ant-man and the wasp

nano battle at hong kong disneyland and guardians of the galaxy mission breakout at california adventure and avengers quantum encounter on board the disney wish yes they can't original experience on the the newest cruise ship now they're busy i can't i'm busy on a cruise is that the one where ant-man is in thanos's butt or something he talks about that he pitched the butt thing paul rudd in the video on the cruise ship acknowledges the fan joke about Ant-Man could have stopped Thanos by getting Tiny going up his butt and expanding. And he starts explaining it on the cruise and Wasp says,

we can't talk about this. Oh, it's a little, this was like, this was a running joke and then they kind of co-opted it. Okay, interesting. But this is fucking exhausting. You're telling me I cannot track the narratives

of your Marvel attractions unless I'm crossing multiple continents? Going on boats, you have to now speak French, English, and Chinese. Unless you're fucking putting me on a boat that goes from Paris to Shanghai, and you know

people are going to see those three things in the correct order this is actually uh they're pulling from the comics because like if something is heading towards earth and the x-men need help they will make calls and they're like sorry we're busy in the quantum realm the fantastic four is busy the avengers are busy yeah so it is interesting to see this applied because they they did introduce all the Avengers campuses as like unique. These are happening here and these are happening. I think what Jason's saying, and I may agree with him, is that I like it.

This is me. This is the rest of our text. You like that. You don't. Wait a minute. Hang on a second. Here's what I don't like. Okay, you go ahead.

You go first. Your whole thing. The fights are healthy. This is all healthy. your whole goddamn thing about rise of the resistance it's not all my friends it's not the characters and where's darth vader that's right now there is a ride where we called the other guys they're busy and you're like i like it well well if they had something to do hold on hold on i think darth vader had something to do In Rise of the Resistance He's busy being dead Explain Well

But we know That the dead speak Wow You got me there If there was a ride though Where Darth Vader was in Hong Kong I would at least take some solace in that I would say

Okay that comforts me You like that the rides Are in conversation with each other Now I do like the rides are in conversation Here's what I'll say also though there's plenty other superheroes that he should be calling yeah he has a best friend war machine that could be there like he's not yeah there are other heroes that are not represented on the other rides who could at least flesh out a small

avengers i don't think it needs to be like the classic cinematic avengers team like i don't think it needs to be like the classic cinematic Avengers team. Like, I don't think this ride is failing because it's not. You can't call it Avengers with two of them. But I think you can just pick a grab bag selection. Four. Give us four. You need, I'd say five. I think five is the most. Five is fine.

What about, what if Happy Hogan was involved? What if Jon Favreau's Happy Hogan was there? Do you count him? I think he should be prominent in the pre-ride. I agree. On the ride itself i want five characters with costumes and or powers yeah yeah and if you're limiting it to they're flying there in space uh-huh fine we can pick five of those yeah they exist yeah i agree

so what the groom is group thought here is that as long as per griffin's wish we need three more heroes but and with that everybody being busy we can't help is good well jason do you agree with me that it's good i think it's interesting as long as we're replacing them with anyone yes two is just not enough of i can agree with communication we agree with that we're communicating we're communicating to scott's point um that like in comic books the continuity very quickly falls apart uh because the dora milaje are also in anaheim and uh ant-man is also walking around uh in a high with like oh look i got a little bug and this is the galaxy's edge problem where it's like you're tying yourself up in knots trying to make this universe work rather than just doing the thing that would be the most fun at any moment you

should work backwards from what do we want this to be let's figure out logic to get you to that instead of like now we've taken things off the table because of the logic fucking four theme park nerds in a garage right now and we're saying we would prefer if you cared less about how much we're tracking the internal logic of these things basically right yes yes absolutely we don't really care because we like things where it's just everybody and you don't know why it's a fun bonus if also you have those magical little connections or whatever things are shaking hands there's there's cleaner ways to do it like if he calls spider-man yeah it's like what could he what could that kid have going and it you just hear the chaos from the spider-man

ride going on he goes you know what never mind and it's right next door that would be great but i i'm sorry i was misremembering it is that that I didn't because I want to bring this up because I do think this is important. Disneyland Paris has a priority access thing that is expensive. It is a variable price. Sacre bleu. I know. But unlike all the genie and fast pass systems of the last couple of years, the thing works pretty fucking perfectly. Wow.

Sure. The only two rides I think it didn't work for were Avengers. Where you did single rider. I did single rider and maybe Peter Pan were the only two. But basically, you get this app. You don't have to reserve any times. You add it onto your ticket. The price varies based on how far in advance you get it,

how busy the day is, and all these things, right? But it's one set price for whatever day you book, and then you get this extra QR code on your phone. And if you go to the entrance of any ride, there is a priority access thing. You scan the QR code. They go right this way. You're on the ride within three minutes.

Wow. You don't have to schedule anything. Yeah. It works like a charm. Yes. Similar to the Express Pass 8 Universal or Lando. It's exactly the same. It is so simple.

Unlimited rides? You can do every ride one time. Okay. The only thing it does not allow you to do, which I is fair is priority pass twice for the same attraction okay but otherwise do as many rides until your heart's content this is interesting it's expensive yeah but it works it does work like right i mean i just to say i don't think we said this on the show I've seen tweets about it And I experienced it Haunted Mansion Holiday The last time I went

That you do You pay for priority And then you end up in a line That goes all the way back to Yeah the lightning lanes There's a lot of that It's horrible Somebody just said that

Posted on social media Like lightning lane You pay like $20 for the car's ride And then it stretches back to the cone The cozy cones And you're like Well wait a car's ride and then it stretches back to the cone the cozy cones and you're like well wait a minute what am i paying for the only thing you need to book times for is restaurants okay the whatever the blue bayou equivalent is and the remy's restaurant are like the two that are maybe harder to get a table is there a way this somehow didn't come up

on the doughboys i was i think I think it is Blue Bayou there. It's got a different name. It does have a different name, but it's a very similar setup and looks like a fairly similar. Sacre Blue Bayou? Sacre Blue Bayou. Yes. But Avengers was one of the only things I had to wait in line. That having been said, their single rider line happens around the outside of the building, essentially,

and is basically the equivalent of the fucking spider-man queue here in anaheim where you're like nothing nothing for me and meanwhile i think everyone else is watching this fucking video i was misremembering i was like did i not see it because i did the priority thing no they fucked me for being a single rider i still waited for 40 minutes it was the longest i waited for anything it was basically the only ride i didn't walk straight on. I got to watch this good show scene because being on the outside of the building, at least I could see the catwalk. But without that, I missed this bit of all the other characters saying I'm busy.

You had to be here and find it out weeks later. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this happens with stuff when they retrofit attractions or retrofit buildings, where it's like, are we going in the old fire exit? I kind of felt that way. Didn't this used to be the regular out of the ride? It felt like we were in a line that was used as a passageway for cast members.

Probably. For 40 minutes. Interesting. Yeah, and they get away with it with this idea that it's a campus and it's industrial and backstage feeling, which, by the the way is the entire park right i i don't mean to take you away from marvel if it's more about marvel but that is like you have not been to this studio's paris park which i over the years have been very hard on yes i like i would say justifiably so okay yeah all right this is something i wanted to check with you of like am i crazy or too harsh on something i don't doesn't

curly wise iel seem to agree I think they're making an effort I think it's getting better I think especially if they go forward with Galaxy's Edge and Arendelle it's like I think they're not doing Galaxy's Edge definitively that's what I've heard I've heard that as well but is it a settled matter well I don't think

it'll ever be a settled thing sure you know what I mean like they'll never say no we're not doing it we'll just like 20 years from now they'll be like it'll ever be a settled thing. Sure. You know what I mean? Like, they'll never say, no, we're not doing it. Well, just like 20 years from now, they'll be like, it'll be obvious. Remember that? They very much need two more things of that size and importance. Yeah. Yeah. Because I like Ratatouille, but that's not, it is not a, like, well, that made my day.

No. And look, the area is nice. The Ratatouille restaurant there is really cool because as opposed to in epcot where they sort of the what is it three chefs i don't know the france yes yeah right because the rides right there the new now that they've added the ratatouille ride to orlando they've sort of made that area feel a little more like gusteau's but it's like it's still just a french restaurant in epcot whereas the restaurant in disneyland paris next to the remy ride looks like the restaurant that remy at the end of ratatouille

if you guys remember yeah yes ratatouille remy himself has bought he now co-owns a restaurant with linguine and anton ego the critic spoilers for ratatouille i guess fine and he is able to cook the meals with a little staircase up to the pots right you've spoiled that they the remy was not killed and he didn't end up in a trap but a human restaurant human restaurant being served plates and then there's a little rat staircase yeah and you see that up in the rafters there's a rat restaurant and this restaurant also serves rats he's got smaller portions his rat family's there they finally accepted his art.

And they have their own facsimile of a fancy French restaurant, but with rat-sized things. The tables are made out of buttons and thimbles and whatever, and it's very cute. The restaurant there is like that. It's the rat-sized restaurant, which is really nice because it keeps you in the headspace of the ride, where it's like, you are shrunk down. You are small. Oh, is that right? I didn't go in there or eat.

Did you eat there or just walk through it? I couldn't get a reservation i walked through it but i think the food is good they got an extensive wine menu they got a lot of options and it looks great the theming is great but it's a corner sure the toy story land sucks ass you tried to warn me for months and i went scott i'm such a fucking slut for Toy Story. There is no way it disappoints me. And you're like, it's small. It's unimpressive. It's not Disney World. You said, I think also, all pretty much off-the-cart rides.

Yeah, it's like an RC racer that goes in a little up and down, back and forth. I have never been this disappointed to see my best friends. I was like, even if i don't go on these rides to just walk around it for a little bit i will be happy i did not bother going on one of the rides oh i was so disappointed exactly what they are there's not even going to be the quiet charm of like of course it's an off the shelf but you get to hear something john ratzenberger did or whatever these are like shitty poorly rethemed carnival rides with toy story characters it is not

very visually compelling it is even built out to the same degree as like toy story land it's i don't think it's even my memory i was i breezed through it but it didn't seem to me like even a bugs land no like you might call if you're cynical you might say bugs land was all off the shelf stuff and who cares bulldoze it but now i've caught people were kind. I was kind of charmed by Bugs Land in a way. But it's not that. It's a small area with three very tiny rides all condensed into a very. Is Forky there at all? Not at all.

Because I was thinking maybe this would have saved it a little for you. And there was a lot of Forky merch. Forky does continue to seem to be a big mover on the merch side of the parks. Okay. I bought a little Forky key chain. Thank to be a big mover on the merch side of the parks. Okay. I bought a little Forky keychain. Thank God for that. Truly. Good. Thank God for that.

But there was no Forky. It felt like nothing from before, period. There was a big Buzz statue that spoke dialogue. It would flip back and forth between Tim Allen, the man who they so rudely took the part away from he will never get paid to be buzz lightyear ever again other than the 10 times a year he does and if they decide to do it for some reason probably will have not said they won't never stop getting paid to be buzz lightyear they cut him out of one movie and it's the movie that no one likes buzz lightyear by the way uh on the disney plus menu and maybe it's just my recommendations really far on the recommended like really far down the new the new one yeah

oh oh that's another thing in france i believe that movie is called le claire what le claire like l apostrophe a claire eclair eclair like an eclair le claire what does that mean i don't know what no i don't like i i feel like that's not his name like i feel like i've heard them say like buzz lightyear you hear french people go like hey buzz lightyear they just like adopt they just jam english word but i walked by the poster and i saw like the french version of the light year merch and it was l apostrophe i believe e-c-l-a-i-r i am pretty curious what the entomology of le claire is and why but there was there was that there was like two fixed statues of mr and mrs potato head holding uh uh an etch-a-sketch and you would see families walk up to and be like oh cool does the screen change it doesn't they would stand there for 45 seconds and go like oh it's just the one image and then it's this three

the the uh army men thing is a little drop thing parachute drop but like a a local traveling carnival size drop yeah yeah the rc is that thing where it's like a u yeah that's the thing goes all the way up to one side all the the way back to the other side. You're in a big RC. That at least looks a little cool. Yeah. And then the Slinky Dog thing is like, quote unquote, a roller coaster. And it's basically a perfect circle.

And it just moves continuously in one loop. It's not the Disney World Slinky Dog. I have the answer for what LeClaire is. Okay. LeClaire means the lightning flash. And the reason I have a Wikipedia open. Yeah. And Leclerc is an opera comic.

Hmm. Oh, okay. A comic opera. But I believe the Lightyear movie is called Leclerc. Well, let's take a look. Like, does Lightyear not exist as a term? And did they have to go lateral to Leclerc? He's Buzz Lightning Strike or Lightning Flash.

Lightning Flash. He's Buzz Lightning Flash. That's a good question. I don't know. I kind of like it. Leclerc He's Buzz Lightning Strike Or Lightning Flash Lightning Flash He's Buzz Lightning Flash That's a good question I don't know I kind of like it Leclerc A young mother Falls to the floor Something says

Buzz Leclerc I see multiple YouTubes that just say Buzz Leclerc So maybe his name is Buzz Leclerc That poster just said Leclerc

I think So yeah Because it's called Lightyear Yes It's not called Buzz Lightyear No That's why Because the movie's Called Lightyear. Yes. It's not called Buzz Lightyear. No.

Because the movie's called Lightyear, so I guess it would be called LeClaire. Wild. Yeah. Wow. Has he always been LeClaire? In 1995, was he LeClaire? Is this a Mandela effect? Yeah, right.

There's fandom Buzz LeClaire right here. Yeah. Hmm. So, I guess it is. I'll say I was such a, obviously, Toy Story obsessed kid, and my mother being French so badly wanted me to become fluent in French that at one point she noticed how many times I was watching Toy Story on VHS and that I could mouth the words along with it. And she had a friend in France import a VHS of Toy Story dubbed in French, but we've had

to find someone to transfer the tape, because it was PAL, to VHS format. Wow. And then put it in the VCR and looked at me and said, now speak along with the movie. Wow, really? Did it work? I'm making my mom sound very much like Mike talking about the Marshall Gate thing. But no, no, no, it didn't work. I like the way she sounds.

But she was like, maybe I can get him to watch this movie and speak along with it over and over again. And one day, suddenly, he will know every word in French. Jeez, that's great. How much did it pay off? Not over again. And one day suddenly he will know every word in French. Jeez. That's right. How much did it pay off? Not at all. Okay. Good theory. Makes sense.

Yeah. Therapists have spent years trying to unlock why I can't learn French, but, uh, I don't remember the character ever being named Leclerc and I've watched that movie in French a number of times. You know that part at least. Yeah.

That's really strange. But the new one is certainly called it. Um, there's something that I, uh, that I'm dying to know about and I want to make sure we don't get too deep without it coming up it was even mentioned as possibly the main topic of the episode yes that is the well you know i'd like you to say the name of the food that you yeah absolutely so just are oriented to run through the rest of

hollywood park hollywood studios park yeah uh Crush's Coaster, which you had not done before. You said you were curious for me to go on because you hadn't hit that one. Yeah, I didn't get to do it. Yeah, the line was just not going to happen. It's pretty simple, but it's fun. It's like an indoor roller coaster, and the big thing is that you're in a crushed turtle shell, and it spins around the whole time. Okay, so it's always chaotic and different because it has the spinning component.

It's supposed to be like when the turtles are on the east australian current there's a lot of blue lights they play the thomas newman score it's fun it's a simple it's a simple little thing but it's fun that very much seems to be one of those popular rides there yeah and i've heard that line is like kind of torture not much to see uh so it kind of deflates an hour plus that was one where i was very happy that I had the priority access. Yeah. Then I'm trying to think of what else is even there of note. Well, there's a car's road trip.

Well, this is what I'm saying. Yeah. I'm sorry. I just want to make sure there was nothing else I was forgetting before I get to this. Oh, there's the Tower of Terror, which is exactly the same. It's the California Adventure one that we don't have. It's exactly the same. Yeah. There were no differences. It's the tower of terror which is exactly the same it's the it's the california adventure one that we don't have it's exactly the same right there were no differences it's the least remarkable at this point i still enjoy that ride but there was there were no differences of any kind and that's that's still tower of terror they haven't flipped it to guardians no

it's still tower of terror i think those are all they tried there's there's a cars thing that's like bumper cars in a different part of the park like the two cars things are spread out far from each other oh i hadn't thought about that oh yeah from the start of route 66 to the end of route basically it's like there's a run that in order goes like crushes coaster whatever the cars bumper cars thing is called then you walk through a little tunnel and then i believe it's toy story land and then ratatouille and then if you walk further take a long walk in that direction you get cars road trip which is the single worst attraction in any disney park i've ever witnessed i listened to your episode oh yes

this here's a second gate to fill you in on also we discussed this on the second. This is this remodded ride. It was their pretty pathetic tram tour, a tram tour of locations that have never been used in a movie. They recreated the set of flown. Rain of fire was not filmed in this Parisian field. It was ever filmed there. Yeah. Yeah. I just found it notable because of the Matthew McConaughey talking about

eating ash Ash the dragon I learned that in that movie Go to the second gate if you want to hear our thoughts about A movie where dragons are eatin' ash You guys were watching YouTube videos of this ride You had not gone on it I didn't even do the tram tour We were so kind of dying to get out of that park

We were like we know what this tour is going to be Harley had gone on it and told you First hand that it was bad or did she just give the tip off of watching videos? I think she went on it. I can't remember. Did?

But I listened to that episode. That episode was a lot of fun. The whole eating ash tangent was great. And you said, obviously don't go on cars. And I was like, Scott,

don't tell me what to do. I'm going to go on cars. I listened to that episode. I had a great time. Another fight. Why wouldn't I go? No, no, no. We're communicating. We're communicating. But also, I was like, tell me what to do i'm gonna go in cars i listened to that episode i had a great time another fight why wouldn't i go no no we're communicating we're communicating but also i was like i have priority pass right i paid for this fucking yeah it's not gonna be a big way right and you're there for you like you're partially there for trash yes and this is the other part of this i'll say so my brother

was like i'll come to disney with you but my brother has never been a theme park guy anytime we went when i was a kid with family he after, after four hours, would be like, can we get out of here? And it was always this tension between us where I'd be like, I want to be here from opening to closing. Uh-huh. Yeah. And he'd be like, here's my bandwidth.

Yeah. That was his case as a child, and as he has grown up, he has become less and less of a theme park guy. Which we were doing kind of an advice run, was i was trying to figure out which park you go to and i was basically saying i'm gonna pay for the priority thing because i think he'll stay longer if he doesn't have to wait on any rides any lines for any rides and i was like i should do one park in the morning before he shows up he has work in the morning he has to go to training and then like their gym was close to disneyland. And he was like, I'll meet you in the afternoon.

So it was a question of, do I do studios first or Disneyland proper first? And I didn't know the answer. I don't think either of us knew. We had to talk about it. More thorough. I don't think he cares about going on the Marvel shit. I was like, Ratatouille's the only ride that feels like he would maybe enjoy at studios. I'll just knock that out in the morning.

So I was like, I might as well do pretty much everything here. So I got through everything pretty quickly. And I was like, let me go do this cars thing. Walking up, there is a food truck that sells an item called the Croc McQueen. I enjoyed this so much. And I'm glad you said it because I think I would have been more like Croak. But Croak McQueen. Croak McQueen.

I texted you and I said, this might be the episode. Well, now that we're in it, if we're doing a mini croak McQueen episode, what are we dealing with here? I go up, I see this thing. I'm so charmed by it. The truck is not open. Great. No.

Now, much like all these parks Post-COVID Some things just have not reopened But also I was there In December 2014 And so many restaurants That's what I'm saying Maybe the closest equivalent a park has ever had As far as I can tell of an actual pizza planet

We're like well we gotta go in there Closed, gone Some of the food options that sounded kind of neat gone we won't do it so there's always been a toy story gift shop closed and i'm like it's toy story merch yeah that's what are you fucking doing won't sell toys of the toys the most one-to-one toys there are and this the cars on the road road trip thing is so far out because you have to think about like if you've been to universal studios hollywood the tram tour has to be in like a completely separate area the

loading from everything else because it's like and now we're going to take you around to secure this path far away from where the rest of this park is with massive vehicle trains of four cars in a row so you're walking so far to this abandoned area where there's nothing on the way there. And then I see this food truck. Croak McQueen. I'm laughing. I'm smiling. I'm trying. I want one. I'm hungry.

It's closed. And I'm like, I want this. I now don't want to eat anything else. I've walked by other food stands, but I'll be disappointed if I eat anything else. Will this reopen later? Should I come back later? And I'm like, let me just do this fucking cars right now i could just walk on it right so i walk on it you're hungry and mad yes to start yes i go

the ride is it is a tram tour the vehicles have not been changed they have not put pixar eyes or mouths on them you are getting onto a tram it looks like a backlog tour tram you're going to see a live cars with eyes but you aren't in and remember in the cars universe all vehicles have eyes but we are in the one vehicle in the entire car no personality no personality you get in this thing there's a video like we're talking about i'm in the corpse folks yes that's the only it's a dead car it's like swiss army man you're riding a dead car. It's like Swiss Army Man. You're riding a dead body. Farting Rand Cliff. Yes. You get on this thing.

There's a video screen that is Cruz Ramirez and Sally Carrera, I believe is her name, the Bonnie Hunt character, but she's speaking in French. Cruz Ramirez is speaking in English. Okay. And you're hearing them respond to things that the other person said in a different language. The other car, excuse me. But basically, this road trip's going to be a lot of fun.

We're going to see some real sights. They're hyping this up. And I'm like, look, you know what? I have been told what this ride is. This is a converted tram. We are adding fake roadside attractions in the universe of cars. I will find this pleasant.

I will find this pleasant. I love the universal tram tour. This does not need to be anything fancy. I understand this was a cheap rush job. That's fine. You ride through. They're like, look there. It's the biggest lug nut.

You ride through a little further. Wow, that's a huge wrench. Then you go to- And these are not animated items. Static. Yes, they're just big things. As I remember, the wrench is pretty isolated. There is a static Lightning McQueen inside the lug nut, I believe. But the wrench is just on its own there's a lot of just barren landscape just nothing they're

playing this video and they're playing this music and then you pull up to the catastrophe canyon point right oh and this is part of it that it's a it's a very universal tour type something where there's going to be disaster and fake rain and explosions and that was left over and it kind of looks like the red rocks of cars so maybe we can mod of that that might fold in directly to a car so they put like an 18-wheeler truck there i guess it's supposed to be like a gas truck and it's there and they're setting it up in french and they're like oh no he's in trouble i think we need to help him or whatever right and it just felt like there was a lot of silence and then the area shook for a little bit and then like a water tower spilled over and a bunch of water poured out and it's

the thing where everyone in the tram goes like oh no am i gonna get wet and it does and it comes up just short right and i was like that's a weird beat and then i went back and listened to the episode and looked at the footage that you guys were talking about he's supposed to be on fire he's supposed to be engulfed in flames. The entire point is that the water is putting out the flames and the fire wasn't fucking working. So you just watch a truck sit calmly in the middle of some rocks

and then water just pours on him. You're trying to get natural gas in Europe these days. It's cut off. The supply chain is... No fire. No fire anywhere anyone not him on fire not any wow not a lick of fire then you move on to the next point it's mater he's like look i made my tower out of wrenches or whatever end of ride wow geez so it's that badly it's been possibly worse than our assumption having not gone on like three minutes total wow for a ride that

moves very slowly is this a candidate for worst existing right worse how about maybe worst disney ride is the worst disney attraction i have ever experienced wow things that i've experienced that are worse than this are at parks that do not have the budget where i would cut them a little slack yes like i went on the fucking terrible dark knight coaster at six flags great adventure new jersey and you just you feel bad for them that's terrible but you're like well what could they do yeah yeah there was no option even if the budget was this thin put up some fucking cardboard cutouts or something most of the time you're just driving by grass

yeah yeah like open fields from the video yeah yeah and the one thing you got to do is make this thing on fire so then i leave this area the truck still isn't opening i'm like i'm gonna go on four more fucking rides and then have to walk back to this area to hope that the croc monsieur truck is open go back i do the remaining rides i come back the truck is open i wait online for a while i'm like this better be fucking good it's basically they got like a panini press with lightning and queen's face on it and it's a circular ham and cheese sandwich that they press on and lightning queen's face is like toasted into it i like that we might want to consider this for the episode artwork we should make sure we get eyes on this seems like one of the primary things we need to visualize it's about your show charming and you're like this is what this truck

sells crock mcqueen uh baby bell cheese okay uh soda okay i believe that is the entire menu wow and i just got i got a fonta wonderful european yes and i ate this crock mcqueen and i felt so happy it was like all the anger dissipated my body it was so simple it cost like six euros it was like pretty cheap considering you're at a theme park eating a sandwich yeah and a lot of my complaints from going were food oriented and it would have gone a long way if there was like this isn't gourmet great food but it's a good little quote like the good the shawarma and adventure is like so that's amazing if they that honestly is a huge boost to the park if there's like one charming cheap food item that's the last

thing i did in studios and at least left me on a bit of a high note wow wow you pulled it out park and one good thing it was exactly like because you accidentally i don't know if you just noticed You accidentally said The name of the French sandwich It's based on the croque monsieur Oh yes So is it Was it exactly the same makeup

It's like Because it's a ham and cheese It's pretty similar It's kind of a simplified version Of it But it is It is And it's

That's clever That's funny It is funny I agree I liked the way it looked And it tasted good The kind of like Burnt black depiction

of lightning mcqueen yeah it's got a nice crunch to it the cheese was really melty it was like good if i had waited online having to go back for the second time when the truck was open and then it tasted bad and i was like why'd i fucking eat a bit rather than something i would have enjoyed i would have been twice as angry but instead i I was like, that really hit the spot. Wow. Wow. I also, it is so clearly in photos,

lightning, lightning McQueen, which that when we were talking about this, I was like, Oh, here's the test. Show it to my two and a half year old who is obsessed with lightning McQueen. Showed him a picture of that sandwich.

And sure enough, queen, one of the things he says, which I love to hear. So it communicated. And you show him a picture sometimes of Brian may as well. things he says which i love to hear so it communicated and you show him a picture sometimes of brian may as well and he says that uh but this is a good point is like i'm staying at the truck i see the poster with the preview image i'm like is there any way the sandwich comes out looking that good am i gonna get this thing

and and the print is kind of blurry and fudgy and it looks like nothing clean crisp image wow wow i love hard to find lines i would i would love one right now i'm so i'm salivating they should sell them here and they shouldn't tell them it changed the name how much does this make how much does this make you want to get there jason i feel like i'm watching your enthusiasm shoot i am look i'm not one to often set a pile of money on fire, but I've allocated two days for Disneyland Paris of my adventure trip. Well, Jason Theory. Two days is a catastrophic mistake.

Yeah. Catastrophic mistake. Yes, finally. Catastrophic. Catastrophic. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. A, the commute to and from there from any part in Paris proper

is pretty quick, cheap, and easy. But that actually is more of an argument for him to go there because that's going to exhaust him getting to it. I hate the travel part.

And he's going to need that two days to really spread out and relax. Then even, Jace, I think a better use of money would be one day, both parks,

pay the priority access, get a hotel room there, take the train back the next morning. You do not want to pay two admission days. I opened the Disneyland Paris. And I wonder if that would cost out basically to the same thing. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, yeah.

Probably. Yeah, the Disneyland Paris website, by the way, is like really pushing like right at the top of the homepage that Hotel New York, the art of Marvel. I was tempted by it. I just think it's so funny that Hotel New York the art of Marvel. I was tempted by I just think it's so funny that they're like the first Marvel Hotel that's the big bragging point it's the

first Marvel Hotel the theming is New York. It is a fake New York you know where some of the Avengers lived. It's also such a like cake it's a very it's one of those I think

it's that Michael Graves I think is the architect who built the dwarves building that's near where we're recording. And it's so, you can't, they'd have to change every color on that thing to make it not the most 1992 building, which I, now that makes me,

I loved walking around that place. But I think if you want current Marvel vibe, I think you have to spend a lot more money to get it fully all the way there well and to the phrase art of marvel to me means something i don't know what it means to the disney corporation because yes to me it means decades and decades of like hard-working artists you want to be in a ditko suite that's what you're imagining yes and it's like is this mcu concept art it's probably mcu it might maybe a little pop arty like some ditko or kirby panels that they've blown up and pop arty here's what

you want you want to be in the liefeld room with cable and his pockets and his big guns yes you support it somehow by the strangest feet you've ever seen one of those pockets you won't want the bed to look like one of cables one of his pouches yeah yeah button yourself in that's right deadpool pouch yellow makes an off-color joke that's right so that's the art of marvel yeah let's i let's actually play out the day's argument a little bit yeah i think there's maybe a version well i think you're right about like if you now you've you've done it we did like yeah too many we thought we knowing ourselves and knowing that we like hanging out at disney hotels we blocked out a whole night that's like we will get in we will go around this weird their city walk and we'll go well like hotel bar hop essentially

and and we were that night wore on us really quick sure we did get a full day out of the disneyland park proper there and then it was essentially like a morning at um at studios look i was tired at the end of the day it was like a little like i'm on a train i wish i was back in bed right now you know it was like an hour and 15 minutes i wish i could have gotten back right maybe an hour and a half yeah i the appeal of at the end of the night we're gonna be tired we'd love to just settle in that's fine sure you've done a whole episode on the disney village there's not a ton to do there you've got a limited appeal to hotels just to be able to like take that train on a good night's rest i think that makes sense that is fine but i'll say like my my brother wasn't sure which

day he was going to be available so we had to book the tickets late and the priority access late and i think if you're actually planning this trip out in advance both are significantly cheaper and you can get on literally if you want to you could get on every single attraction in both parks with time to spare. Wow. If you got the priority access. And go back into the city and stay in the city. If you want to. What I'd recommend to Jason, if you want to have a more relaxing time, is I would get

priority access, I would do everything, and then stay at a hotel that night and take the train back the next day. Here's what I'd recommend. He gets in town. We'll have two half days. He gets in town, he takes two days at the hotel to relax from the train ride. He's a recover. Watch French King of Queens. days he gets in town he takes two days at the hotel to relax from the train ride watch a french king of queens he watches a full season of french king and king of queens he does three days for both parks yeah then he takes two more days at the hotel to relax from

that then he heads back but only halfway back on the train he stops halfway in a different hotel i don't know what town it is halfway between paris and the parks orly is the town i think that that the park is in o-r-l-y i believe yes okay it's funny that when it's not funny but it's cute when you're on the train you're looking at the stops they're sort of that map showing like the stops ahead orly has a little mickey oh that's nice that's great that's cute yeah jason you think you're going to paris or tokyo first um i don't know i'm still speaking that was purely hypothetical the i also always want to what oh say to to uh parrot what griffin said doing paris before tokyo would be a catastrophic You have to go to Japan You should go to

Paris You gotta go to Paris I've always wanted To see the city of Lights Well yeah Sure

You will enjoy The city It is one of the Greatest movie going Cities in the world You have the Finest food People talk about

The food of Paris And whatever The thing I think Is under discussed The thing that is So impressive About the food in Paris

Is that you can Go to any place On a corner And the quality Is surprisingly Good Right It's not about the fancy restaurants.

Yeah. It's that they're like brasseries and cafes that are the equivalent of like greasy spoon diners. You can order a steak, and it costs $15, and it's good. Yeah. Yes. And you have a glass of wine,

and you're like, this is the life. Yeah. There's neighborhoods full of repertory movie theaters where they're just doing marathons all day of all the movies you wish you could see on a big screen. And you just sit there with a bunch of other film nerds and it's fucking great. That's great. You should spend one day at Disney.

I would agree. You're right. I'm discounted because our time in Paris proper was amazing. I can't imagine not then doing the Disneyland part and going like we have i lost paris time right because we're here like i think you can wake up in a hotel there and recover and then take the train and then enjoy another full day in paris yeah yeah yeah i think that's my strongest advice i think you're if you're if you're evaluating like what are trips i want to do in my life that makes all the sense in the world and going anywhere else in europe but if you're going purely if you're theme park

motivated it's got it's japan like yeah a thousand percent i think europe too i would consider it's like well i'm on the continent should i like trek to efteling or gardaland or something like you know what i mean a little yeah yeah totally okay so at this point i jump parks i jump over to disneyland proper my brother is meeting me now there's this area i start sending you guys a lot of photos because I'm waiting for my brother to meet me and I'm very charmed by this area. The sort of main street, little plaza entrance area near where the

train station is, is outfitted with so many ghost sculptures. Right, right. Still Halloween season. Right. It's, yes. I'm there mid-October i believe uh they got these funny ghosts they are full body statues they are not characters that exist anywhere in the disney library and they're doing little scenes oh great there's like a ghost playing baseball and different

ghosts pitching him the ball and he's swinging the bat oh man there's like a ghost caricature artist take doing a caricature of a ghost couple wow they're like fancy there's a ghost there's a dentist office facade and there's a ghost who like like he's from a baby huey cartoon has like a bandaged around his head what did this guy do to me and i just text me you guys and i go huge sheridan energy from all of these ghosts i could imagine jason's voice huge Sheridan energy from all of these ghosts. I could imagine Jason's voice coming out of any and all of them. They feel like characters he would create.

They feel like his best friends. They feel like they are the cast of a show that only Jason has heard of 60 years ago, but they seemingly don't exist out of the five, just this holiday season. And they're just nice little ghost towns. People. They are charming. I'm immediately in a better mood here. Yeah disneyland oh great i've never heard of these

ghosts this sounds wonderful fun yeah fun and so many of i was like oh a couple ghosts at the entrance i'm telling my brother like meet me by the ghost and i started exploring around i'm like there are like 60 ghosts they're like spread out that's great wow and they're unique and they each got a little story to tell you wow this is very similar to there's a lot of little egg hijinks in the easter season okay japan like and and also where everyone is distinct in their little clothing and these ones are golfing you know uh so i they should why are they not doing this stuff everywhere i will i took many photos i will i will send them so they can be posted

On the social channels when this episode comes out I need people to understand The photos I'm sharing represent maximum 10% of the ghosts Wow Cool, cool, awesome I could spend the entire day Just capturing these ghosts Hey, yeah, we get that

If you go around Halloween You might need that extra day to get the ghost to get the ghost yeah what a what a massive departure from your the first park you went to that day you're just like theming yeah yeah yeah and unique proprietary yeah who are these guys yeah some parisian engineer going like hear me out on this right right cast of ghouls so now only here we got it yeah wonderful now my brother's in tow and i'm like i gotta be very strategic about what i put him on oh boy okay okay right so i'm like let's prioritize phantom yeah phantom manor phantom manor their equivalent their haunted mansion which has a lot of similarities but like it's not a fully different

ride than on a mansion but a ton is is different and it's like generally like the western vibe of it so you had said to me that's really good and it's different and i was expecting theme park nerd different where it's like oh yeah you pick up on these slight this order and this and that there's like a whole final act of the thing that is unlike anything yeah in the states the town you go to like an underground western ghost town yeah and it has like its own characters yeah yeah and it's like oh sorry i was gonna you leave the mansion you leave the end of it i this is during the pandemic we we were like uh let's just watch it because i'd never seen it before so we watched on youtube and it'll still that's one that like

being there will still fully yeah but even just when you start to go down and you're underneath the house and you're leaving the mansion whenever you're like this feels so different the other thing we should mention the pre-ride audio when you're going through the queue and everything i i turn my brother, I'm like, that's a really good Vincent Price impression they got doing this audio. And then I look into it. It is audio that Vincent Price recorded for the opening, I believe, in the 90s when he was pretty close to death.

Yeah, yeah. And when the park was opening itself, and they decided not to use it, and it was sitting on a hard drive for a long time, and they remastered and instituted it five years ago, and you're like, I'm listening to the final, unheard Vincent Price performance. Now, I love Thurl's Ravencroft,

but it's pretty fucking cool to hear Vincent Price get you ready to go on a haunted mansion, right? Oh, yeah. Yes, and I believe, like, oh, wait, does he take kind of the spot where where it would be ghost host is that what you're okay okay yeah yeah uh everything up until boarding the doom buggy yeah i think for a long time and probably when i went on it there was the the stray element that remained was a laugh i think there was a laugh from vincent press that was still in there correct so it was just a little kind of like oh do you know that's vincent brett but like what a cool

and then i think they put it back in maybe 17 or 18 and it's the thing where it's it's once again it's two voices it's alternating between a french guy and a vincent price but there's a lot of vincent price and then you get on the thing and they're playing a lot of the hits you got the singing boss you got the ballroom you got leota and whatever yeah and then it just fucking veers and you're starting to see this guy i don't know this guy's name but it feels like he's the hatbox ghost a phantom man or where you're like the phantom the phantom i think so yeah he's sort of skeleton head yeah and he he's got like a little bit of like a like an old-timey proprietor vibe. He's got a mischievous energy to him.

And he's sort of showing up a little bit like it's a good version of like Jack Sparrow in the Pirates ride. Where you're like, why does this guy keep on popping up? What's going on here? And then the ride feels like it's like saying like he's going to fucking pull you into his own story. He's pulling you down to his old ghost town. Other thing that's cool, the house is like kind of like decrepit and rotting there was that whole famous thing with walt where he was like uh i i can't look bad it's disney it has to look nice everything has to look nice make it like a beautiful you know new orleans man they're like this is like an old french romantic

gothic mansion that is like crumbling Wow And then you're going Into like ghost Cowboy town And it fucking Rolls And I see my brother Go like That's pretty cool

The other thing I What I recall About my shrine I don't remember A lot of specifics And story But I remember

Like the We'll do a full episode On this 15 years from now Once we're done With the American Haunted Mansion Yeah

We don't know the rules If they can go concurrently Or if we have to Get through yeah we don't know the rules we've not decided that but um it'll be whatever is the most complicated i'm sure but what i strongly remember is just vibe and feel and that like i'm not scared by the haunted mansion probably because i've done it a zillion times but i was like very uneasy in that yeah it is like that you walk out with it just a uh i don't know just a feeling in the chest for sure they it's so affecting so we do that then we go to big thunder which i was like this is the best big thunder yeah and you did think that yeah i did and i i couldn't remember i i i think i texted when i go like that's much longer right yeah it feels like a full minute longer and they fixed the issues i was talking

about yeah before it does have the grand finale which as i've talked about i didn't get to do because that was my walk off that was the greatest walk off of my life sure while getting to go through like the the big mountain pieces and the walk the walk we had to take was so long because the ride is so long yeah so to have to get all the way back to home base so i had no regrets but wait why is it better at the is it it's it's faster it's uh it does end more intense that's what i that's what i've never been on it but that's what i i believe is the situation where it does feel like you actually end on the like fastest coolest part yeah it like builds to a crescendo and you're pretty like you're you're along the river you're like you're like right next to rivers of america for or what i

don't know what it's called on an island right it goes under the river it is tom sawyer island right right that's why i think they have more space for it because it's on this sort of odd island to itself so you get these cool tunnels it's really good we were the order of my trip was like all the bullshit was stacked for we did a lot we had a lot of hijinks and like bad meals and uh we didn't do studios first but basically we ended up we were like we are down on the place we are missing paris and it was not till the end of the day that we did uh what you just talked about phantom manor and big thunder and i that all made me feel like, well, this Frontierland is a triumph. It's incredible.

It's like I cross over in the second park. I'm charmed by these ghosts. And then I go on two French versions of American rides that are arguably superior. I wouldn't say Haunted Mansion is superior, but it is so interesting. And it has its own distinct value. And then Big Thunder is better. So I'm like like they're doing stuff here yeah yeah right they're actually like this is there's there's some investment in this

there's something they did right in 92 and of course they did like the bones of it are incredible it's i mean it's the most it's tony baxter's full vision of i'm doing a magic kingdom and it shows and they can they can't like wash all that away even if they tried and no matter how like janky the operations of it get or various aspects it's it's it's baxter-y no matter what we do and my brother's really into that right now i was like i don't know if i get him on a single roller coaster seemed a little nervous about he had a fun time then we go on indiana jones which is fine and absolutely suffers from being right next to big thunder oh gee they are next to each other yeah and it's like this is kind of shitty or big

thunder not a full not indiana jones adventure it's a coaster it's the first coaster with a minecart coaster yes which the loop is kind of fun and surprising because my brother was like does this loop and i was like it's disney nothing loops and then you you sure as hell do loop uh and it's you're in like the mine cart from temple of doom um but it's not very well themed yeah it just feels like an outdoor coaster that's pretty small with one loop you're in the thing it's fine it would if it was on a whole other side of the park if it was in studios it would be fun if you're on the order that we've been in which is basically walking through the park forward from the entrance yeah you're gonna hit big thunder first and that's a knockout right right then we do pirates which basically registers to me is exactly the same and i'm like having a great

time this is going on my brother's like i'm gonna tap out i'm feeling nauseous whoa you know that's very fast and i was like well we pretty much did the two things that are coasters everything we would do after this would be like a pretty slow story right and he's like yeah i don't know but pirates made me feel sick oh geez and i'm like water smell that's his bandwidth he's like it's i love my brother but it's like i i knew i wasn't gonna get much out of him yeah i got exactly that but i do feel like three of the best rides he went on that's great and he was like yeah no i get it it's good i understand why you like it's pretty cool glad he went okay yeah he had to work you know he had to do the traditional uh 10 hour french work week you know yeah he had to put in his daily 80 minutes yeah yeah he said it's funny he's like i mean i don't want to say too much but like he is an american working for a french basketball team

and a lot of his work he ends up doing is being the sort of conduit between american people and french people and he's up against that thing where french people are like uh it's lunch the day is done and american people on a different time zone who he's trying to negotiate with are like we're sleeping 45 minutes a day the rest of the time you are on call uh-huh yeah and it's like his office is like got it figured out and everyone he's calling is like how dare you not pick up he's very good at his job but he seems very tired he has to basically work on both coasts at the same time oh wow oh no geez fascinating work oh my god yes uh very very fascinating and going to games was it's the most i've ever cared about watching any sporting event because i was like oh now i have an emotional investment i want my brother to keep having this job. I want to see this team win.

Pretty good straw. Now I know who to root for. Yeah, right. So he leaves, and then I just kind of bing out most of the things that are basically the same but fun. Yeah, Fantasyland's all pretty. Yeah. All well done, of course.

Yeah. Oh, I'll say Peter Pan doesn't do the track at the beginning that you go off of oh it just starts and it's clearly visibly track above head oh not like fake out on the bottom then the fake that's my favorite part of the ride they lose the fake out that was a bummer everything else was good uh small world uh clothes for construction okay i don't think anything too special here as far as i recall no i go through the castle the castle is beautiful as you said this beautiful tony baxter castle it's really the the sleeping beauty castle and what's cool is it has like rooms there's like an art gallery there's like a boutique shop there's

more of the castle you can explore explore internally and the other thing i pitched as the only other thing i thought maybe was an episode but it was pretty slight is underneath the castle they have the maleficent dragon yeah and it's a giant animatronic yeah sleeping there and angry that people are visiting it and it's cool it feels like a little hidden thing it's not truly but you kind of got no look for it sure it's a beautiful animatronic that's like puffing and puffing and blowing smoke in that room it's yeah it's like a little hidden thing. It's not truly, but you kind of got to know, look for it. Sure. It's a beautiful animal trying. It's like puffing and puffing and blowing smoke. Remember that room?

Yeah, it's small and cramped and creepy. It's dank. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You feel that steam. Yes. Yeah, cool thing. Cool thing to put in a castle. Yeah.

Best castle, possibly? Arguably. I mean, I have not been to the Asia parks. Yeah. Tokyo is the same as Disney World. Yeah, I don't know enough about Shanghai. The Shanghai one is giant and really cool looking, but I don't know. Hong Kong just got like doubled in size.

Yeah, that could be cool. I wonder how that looks, though. It looks a little chaotic. And also, they have those beautiful green hills in the background. And so, I think it is odd, from my point of view, to obstruct the view. Because it was the same castle as Disneyland, which was a Michael Eisner saving money thing. But I've heard Tony Baxter talk about before this, they talked about making the Disneyland Castle bigger, but it's too hard.

He was like, it's hard because it's forced perspective, and and it's gonna look odd in relation to the rest of the park so i wonder how that one ended up looking when you're actually there yeah it's just this castle feels fully built out like i'm sure there is a bit of forced perspective but it's also there's like a balcony observation like fake hills or like fake rolling hills yeah i love all that yeah those little like terraces of grass. Yeah. Possibly. We've never talked about how we do the castles.

It's never. Oh, good point. Yeah. Castle month. Do you have any ideas? Castle month. Yes. Oh, yeah.

Okay. Or, you know, do we pit them against each other? Is it a tournament? Castle battle. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Castle battle has a nice ring to it.

Listeners, if you have any ideas, how you want us to cover the castles um i end the day with discovery land yeah i was looking for a late night snack perhaps there was a food stand a star wars food stand that uh sold mustafar bites speak of my language that were essentially like jalapeno cheddar tots that were like blackened. Sounds good. They look so good. Like the burned parts of Anakin's body. I'll show you the picture. It looked fucking incredible. It was closed.

Oh, jeez. You lured us in. Our mouths. Oh, that's great. I love that. I know. And I clocked it like early when I got there waiting for my brother to show up. Like, oh, I'll come back around and get that later.

I want to end the night on discovery land. And it closed early. They also, they sold desserts, which were, uh, like, uh,

Star Wars, uh, like waffles, like a Darth Vader storm trooper and maybe Mando like chocolate banana waffle. They looked cool. They look nice. I didn't get to eat any of this. I was kind of bummed out.

God, that's what it would have been. uh, Buzz Lightyear is actually the same. Yeah. I did Star Tours. I got Kashyyyk.

Yeah, the Wookiee planet. The Wookiee planet. And the other one I got was one I hadn't got before and I can't remember. Newer? New sequel trilogy? No, I got two prequel trilogy planets. That's what I'm trying to remember. Naboo? Coruscant? Is it fett it wasn't it was naboo it was naboo because we went underground we saw uh under the water and we saw jojo yeah so that was fun mitch would have been happy yep two prequel planets no modern mitch would have been happy would have been thrilled i was thinking

of him the whole time i wish he was here oh if only mitch if only mitch um and then i did hyperspace mountain uh-huh oh that's what now i i can't track what is what that is hyperspace mountain yeah which is kind of a bummer because it's like show building is so fucking cool the ride itself is so cool the verne of it all the jewelsules Vern vibe is so cool. It does just feel like the Star Wars stuff is a little hat in a hat. Yeah. I did feel like it's kind of done more with laser lights than screens, and you have sort of like space battles happening around you. Have you done the one out here? I haven't.

Okay. I don't know how similar it is, but it is one of those things where it's like that is a semi-permanent overlay. I think it has been that for at least two or three years. Has it been that straight? Because they turn it on and off here all the time. I believe it has been straight, this, for two or three years, and they basically said it is this permanently.

That's a bummer. Yeah. I kind of wish I could have just gone in the normal version of it. Yeah, it is old enough now that I feel like people would be so excited if they restored it to the original version of Space Mountain. Now there's a nostalgic clamoring for, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At least it still

looks that way. I'm like, Discoveryland is so up my alley. I will just like longingly stare at photos of it. And you got to see it at night. Yes. Night vibe is fantastic. Little neon stripes. I love that land got to see it at night yes night vibe is is fantastic little neon stripes i yes i love that land uh so now it's it's night park's closing i didn't get my most of our bites i'm hungry and i realize i think it's time for the main attraction the thing i've

been building up to all night the most important part of this trip yep the reason i need to go visit my brother before the end of this calendar year, because if I go any later, I miss the window of operation for Planet Hollywood Paris. Beautiful. It has arrived. It really, truly is. We've landed. It feels like the last classic Planet Hollywood still in existence. It's the last stupid looking one.

It's the last stucco. It's in a giant globe. It's the last stucco. It's in a giant globe. It's really stupid. The Disney World one, same idea, but just better done. It looks like a miniature golf hole. It's like the planet Earth, and there's a staircase going up to it with a tunnel around it that looks like a birth canal. Sure. You are Ant-Man going up Thanos.

You're getting ready to blow him up from the butt out and uh i walk up to this and i'm like i know this thing is closing people are astonished it's still even open yeah is this going to be like decrepit and sad that feeling when you go to a place that you know is about to close you can't stop thinking about all the employees there who are about to lose their job and you see the business failing and you're like i wish i'd been here in the halcyon days or whatever and i'm as i'm walking up to the entrance i'm like oh the place looks dusty it looks bad like the fucking memorabilia and stuff and i walk up and i go oh no it's halloween decorations it's fake cobwebs but i was so worried about it looking depressing that i took the halloween decorations at face value and i walk in and the place is fucking bumping it is packed to the gills whoa it is full of life really i'm on like a weekday night at like 8 or 9 p.m do you think it's gathering steam because it's going

away do you think people are like we gotta get in there well but i'll say this too the memorabilia collection pretty fucking impressive includes a lot of recent stuff what do we got in there consult with my photos quickly the thing i saw that i was very happy with immediately was they had dolph lundgren's he-man sword from the masters of the universe movie oh pretty good i was seated directly in between uh dustin hoffman's outbreak containment suit cool oh great and val kilmer's batarang i mean what else you want at the entrance full tron costume yeah actual screen worn there was a sign i saw that was like i believe like props on loan from french movie museum it feels like they got a good partnership going so they're not pulling from the earl collection of props and it's not

the rubber stud they did they because clearly they just cranked out all those uh uh demolition man of course they had one of those oh okay of course they did i got ahead of myself but additionally they also had some other stuff that looked like some things that there aren't just 75 of apparently rotting away and like yeah australian goodwills where was that found recently it was like some with some who's just found it yeah why is there a naked stallone in this store i'm trying to remember i think it was in australia it was like yeah it was for sure but yeah and someone and they did i asked what the price was like and the answer i believe was five thousand dollars so i don't know how much that would then cost to ship to america well look you gotta figure out getting animatronic trees out here i mean this is how they figure out that

shipping and then you can see rubber saloon we're saying a bit of Rubber Stallone surrounded by cobwebs. They went really hard on the fake cobwebs. I'm trying to see what the other things were prop-wise here that I'm forgetting. Do we have anything from a Frank Marshall film? Has to be, right? I should have clocked it. The episode hadn't come out yet. You didn't have Marshall on it.

You were in my world, not thinking about Frank Marshall all the time. But here was a recent one, like a hip one that I was pretty surprised with tom hardy's sweats from venom wow i'm like that's new that's a new movie that people like this is not like 90s prop collection the manager yeah had to coordinate a delivery like a delivery from a movie studio yes he had a french manager had to like talk to the studio like Sony and figure out how to get the sweatpants in a safe way. Giant Beetlejuice costume.

Awesome. Oh. Geez. With the little carousel on top of his head and the hammer arms. Wow. Wow. I mean, you did mention the great respect for the cinema. Yeah.

Well. In France. In France. No other city loves the cinema more. And so it of course makes sense that the planet hollywood would be the apex of that love the finest cinematic institution in the entire nation of france would you say do a celebration of the life and work of gadar and then you hop on that subway to get down to that planet hollywood for din din Planet Hollywood for Din Din. Jason, do you know a movie called

You're Never Too Young? They had like a little sailor suit from that movie next to a black and white still and I can't tell if it's like a Mickey Rooney picture or something. But this was the other thing. It was like deeper cuts. I think that's the movie

where Babe Ruth meets the little rascals. Am I correct? Someone did tweet at us a pencil case that featured a drawing of our gang. Yes. Now tell me the part where it proves your theory. And the babe. And the babe.

There is a pencil case. You thought a pencil case was a movie. No, no. Someone tweeted what I was thinking, which is a short where a kid is bored by math lessons in school, and he looks outside, and Babe Ruth is like, come on, kids.

Oh, yes, I watched that. I liked that a lot. It was really cute. This is another second gate thing. I'm sorry we were driving so much, but Jason had the theory that there is a film where Babe Ruth interacts with the little rascals

and that he had to do it because money was tight. Griffin, this is possibly one of the most French things you could see. You're Never Too Young starring who else? Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis. Incredible. Jerry Lewis in the sailor suit with a big lolly. So that was Jerry Lewis' sailor suit. Oh my God. I had it in the background of a picture and I couldn't figure out what it was. He's in the sailor suit with a big lolly. So that was Jerry Lewis's sailor suit. Oh my God.

I had it in the background of a picture and I couldn't figure out what it was. He's in the poster. Incredible. In the little sailor suit. Incredible. This place was well maintained and was clearly operated with love. I got the LA lasagna. I felt I had to.

I regret to inform you, it was delicious. It was one of the better things I ate in paris i was disgusted by having that opinion wow it was so good i was expecting like even if i enjoy this it's going to make me feel sick and bad about myself yeah now i don't remember if la lasagna came up when we talked about playing hollywood but like will you describe what it is and also listeners google image this because i looked at photos and i thought it was so disgusting and i was in between the captain crunch chicken fingers and the la lasagna they had removed the branding from the captain crunch chicken fingers it's now just called our world

famous chicken crunch right and then the la lasagna was pretty hot i was hungry because i didn't get those mustafar bites i was, I could make a full meal of this. I would describe this as lasagna, giant lasagna egg rolls. Yeah. That's a very good description. Their description was a California twist to classic lasagna. Lasagna. They didn't say lasagna.

They say lasagna. That's how you say it if you're cool. With an E. Fresh pasta tubes filled with ricotta cheese and a homemade bolognese meat sauce deep fried to a cold and brown and covered with a garlic cream and tomato basil sauce it was fucking great i got a giant mojito in a goblet oh you better believe it was a collectible glass commemorating your dream imminent closing of this restaurant jason texts me he says please get me a closing shirt i go of course oh boy this is jason listener noah sent us this on twitter

and i was thinking about it for ages and i was like well what is the likelihood anyone i know will be in france and i forgot i knew knew you were going. I couldn't remember when. And you started texting us from Disneyland Paris. And this was our individual text chain. You split this up because you don't want them to think about this and get a shirt as well. This is yours. No, no. Oh.

He's trying to cut us out. I didn't think anyone else would care. But also, you had texted me when I was staying at the Margarita Hotel. We had done a shirt exchange. You got me a Margarita Hotel shirt. Yes. Yes. Yes. So, I was like, Griffin. Which, by the waygarita hotel you got the margarita hotel shirt yes yes yes so i was like which by the way did help you get the chocolate i mean this was a mutually beneficial thing oh you got you a little stamp on the card oh i see what did you get out of the

deal griffin well this is where you could already perhaps the balance is not quite even yet well i use that chocolate to water my plants um What is it? The people at the nursery. Meanwhile, Griffin's plants are dying. Yeah. No, he has nothing to put water on. No shot glass. So I said, and I said, only if it's not out of your way, would you get me a memorial plant at Hollywood in remembrance shirt.

And I said, Jason, I'm having dinner there i could not believe my luck it is the final immovable part of my plan i am eating dinner there by myself i drink this great giant mojito fresh mint leaves i go down to redeem the clean glass yeah right all shirts by 150 off second oh wow what a deal so, for Jason, I got, I'll reveal in a second, the very classy, and it was sort of the same insignia that was on the glass itself. And this speaks to the spirit of this place. They're not depressed. They're not down.

They seem happy to have ran it for this long. And people are there celebrating it. And they just got this classy thing that's like, Planet Hollywood Paris, 1992, 2022. Jeez. Wow. It's a good run. It's a respectable run. We had a good run here. Like a Broadway show. Attention must be paid. Jeez. Wow. It's just a good run. This was a good run. We had a good run here.

Like a Broadway show. Attention must be paid. Yeah. I got a very weird shirt that is a green monster hand grabbing the planet Hollywood globe. Cool. But it just felt like the weirdest thing. And it just says Paris. Huh.

I got this bag here. This is bag. It says Paris bag, which is odd because like they probably started consolidating merch because there was a Planet Hollywood Paris 2. Yes. There was Planet Hollywood Paris and Planet Hollywood Disneyland Paris. Not anymore. I'm trying to maybe slightly consolidate the amount of belongings I have in my life with some things in the storage, what have you.

It's very hard not to just buy every single thing in the store because I was like, well, I'll never come back here again. This is the last chance. This is the last grass. But got i got this shirt for jason i knew i was coming with this it has crossed oceans wow boy right oh yeah classic or it's 96 23 wow yes it is gonna make it it's so listeners if you want to get if you're gonna be there for you can ring in 2023 i think it's january 7th they close it's first listeners if you want to give you're gonna be there for New Year's Eve the very you can ring in 2023 there I think it's January 7th they close its first week of January okay now I felt a little odd coming all this way with a gift for Jason and not for the two of you now don't know what that way

especially because we you know look who's over there watching over us baby Aladar himself still in the, staring right at you this whole time. He's still too sticky for Scott to let in the house. I touched it to, like, move it from there to there. Yeah. And, like, Jesus, it's so sticky. But also, since the last time I was here in the garage, it really feels like there's a menagerie here. Whereas before, I feel like this wall was, like, Scott things visor right a lot of visors your almanac now i'm seeing more ptr i'm

seeing it's becoming the ptr art gallery yeah i'm seeing a little a little water i'm seeing the the blue 32 zipper pouch the disney plus day button right yeah yeah no it's i'm seeing more things that fit into the lore of your favorite things that have been discussed on the show a jar of knots berry jam and i came here i land here charles right that the mouse head was in yes by the way how do you feel about fundamental being the way to do a griffin newman impression i texted charles immediately and i said i think you know that i think that was really good well and you didn't feel There wasn't self consciousness About like Oh do I say Did it seem familiar

Did it No it did It's not It's one of those I'm sure you guys have this But you're like How would I do an impression Of myself

How would other people Make fun of me And I had never Clocked it as a thing But I think he's Absolutely right And I do think it's a word I put some extra spin on

In the way of hammered Right Hammered Little I've heard Fundamentally I've heard very few of myself and one of the i was asking the question like how would you do me and i asked this to uh people might have seen something out there with the very funny jenny pearson

she did an impression for me that was hilarious but horrifying it's one of the only that was just so like uh scattered and uh this and uh it was just like me maybe with party energy or something and i it's burned in my brain i loved watching it but also was like i'd love to never see an attempted impression again that said if anybody yeah yeah yeah right right i mean anyone drop please i i'm curious but so i'm here i land here i'm here for like a week i realize i only have the gift for Jason. I don't want to come... I was going to Venmo you, but... No, please. On the house.

Oh, thank you. On the house, because I was able to write off the entire Disney day as a work of science. Now that this episode is... Foreign correspondent for Podcast of the Ride. I had to cover everything. Too bad. And so, like, make sure that... Like, if anyone from the irs is listening right like

make sure that you listen to the entire thing because you might have gotten lost in marshall gate yes and what wait a minute and he's writing off he like why is there so much frank marshall content point where we were talking about maybe i should just pick a different attraction not from paris and cover it and i was like if we do that then are they gonna audit me are they're gonna be oh yeah it needs to be our listeners in the irs going like it's a fucking episode on a ride that closed in orlando in 97 it was never even in paris and they like yeah now they're working with they like uh what's the way they subpoena our listeners like now you listen carefully to this bullshit right what can you tell us about where griffin newman was this is in october 2022 yeah this is scary because like a like say scott you know there's a living with the land fan in the irs

who loves podcast the ride it's an axe to grind scott might get audited years and years in a row because of that controversial opinion that it's not good i mean they're already going after true patriots how long until they go after fan of people who don't like the rides they like um terrible i was i was looking once i landed here for like oh i should i should find gifts for for scott and mike just little things right uh but yeah you you guys you asked me for nothing right what do i get what do What do I get for the men who have everything? Right? And you had mentioned a recent episode that you had bought a little gift for Scott.

You, Mike, had bought the gift for Scott, commemorating one of his favorite characters in all of pop culture, Kingo. You got a deep discount pocket pop key chain of Kingo. Kingo, yes. Thank you, Brian Mariani. Eternal's Kingo, currency of brian mariani well let's build out a little bit of a kingo collection for scott you like that pocket

pop you might want some other kingo merchandise so what i do bought you is another pocket pop of kingo but also another pocket pop of kingo and then a third pocket pop of kingo a combined six dollars wow the guy at the game stop asked me why are you buying three of the same character and i say we needle my friend and act like he loves kingo and then he said i'll pull off the price tag so he doesn't know how little money you spent and i went no need but he did it anyway say this out loud as i'm giving it to you this is delightful it's so funny looking at these we'll post a photo of it yes and with the fourth that might that might give me originally you know what what's really strange here let me like go back to something i said earlier i said that my son points at lightning mcqueen and says queen he i haven't told you this mike he took to the king

go it's one of his favorite things in the little toy room. And he points to it and he says, King. He says King and Queen. King and Queen. The royalty to my son. So he honestly will be psyched that there's a bunch of Kingos. Yeah, he's got a Kingo family. They had a deep discount.

Kingo Marvel Legend. They had a full size pop. There's some other Kingo stuff. And I went, I think it's funnier if he only owns this one thing. In multiples. It's also the only thing I could name about Eternals. It's Kingo. I have one word.

I couldn't tell you the story, even though I watched a lot of it before falling the hardest asleep I have in the last five years. Look, it's a very effective movie in that sense. Someone hasn't tried extraction Mike I got you three Of the new McFarlane World of Avatar They're not even blind boxes They're blind terrain

I've heard of these Inside are different creatures from the land of Pandora We don't know who will be inside Do I open them now? I think you should I feel like yeah we need to know what's inside here You do them over the course of you know, as we

do our business here. Thank you so much, Griffith. Yeah, this is too nice. And how much you thought, well, this is a needling gift and it cannot be a more sincere gift. This garage is becoming the Batcave so quickly. It's really a gifting suite. It's crazy how nice

so many of our favorite guests are who give us things and we're not we're not setting the standard but oh no you don't need to light it every time no i should i should mention this i think i owe you guys for uh i i in two weeks from today basically i uh begin filming a movie in upstate New York. Oh. I basically have like took a couple years off from acting on camera and really focus on the voiceover stuff. And the Pip thing feels like the culmination of that. And I've really enjoyed it. And I was in this state post the tech where I was like, I don't know how much I want to do this anymore. Really?

Yeah. And I've really had been auditioning less and all this sort of stuff. And my agent emails me and says, this director wants to meet with you. I don't know if I should name him for reasons i'll bring up in a second okay but uh it's it was i go why people will be able to put this together but i'll tell the story in this order right why and they go i don't know he wants to meet with you apparently he has a new project he's got a new script there's a part he wants to play you to play in it i. And I'm like, what is this, right? Go meet with him.

I'm talking about stuff. We're talking about this sort of stuff. And I go like, I have to ask, why are you even like aware of me? What is it that made you like, why am I on your radar, right? And he goes, I have to be honest. I listen to podcasts the right. Wow. Wow. to be honest i listened to podcast the ride wow wow now which you had told us the beginnings of this and then you had the meeting and now you are going to film i only officially got the part like

10 days ago he basically was like he was like look i'm a secret podcast the ride fan secret he was like i i come out and say it say it you know i'll say he was like i'm a secret theme park guy i don't want people to think of me as a theme park guy because sort of i i get it i'm not outing him right but he does not outwardly that's why you're not saying his name like a theme park adult yes i mean people put this together but uh uh and he was like so i listened to his podcast i've gotten really into it i heard you on. I really liked you on it. And then at some later point in time, I watched Search Party and I went, that's the guy from Podcast The Ride.

Wow. And then I started writing this thing in your voice. Oh my God. And your voice, that involves your performance in Search Party, which I love, by the way. Sure. But then like your voice, it comes out of what you do here well and the part i will say is more similar to the character i played in search party than how it's more similar to that than you talking about our frank marshall business yeah yeah in his head because of this podcast wow wow if this person is listening right

now i thank you for listening and thanks for giving this part to Grima. I'm so excited. Michael Taberski. I'll name him. I think it's going to be really good. But I texted Charles Rogers about this because I was bringing up the fundamentally thing. And I was like, Charles, I can't believe I forgot to tell you this. I got cast in a movie and the only two reasons I was cast in it, and you're the exact person to find this funny are because of Podcast the Ride and Search Party. And Charles' response was, why am I not in this movie?

I have those two credits as well. Fair point. Yeah. Fair point. But truly, bizarrely have now been cast in a film predominantly because of yeah this podcast wow i mean is it just do people think of charles more as fundamentally as behind the scenes right that made me that great actor he's a great actor perhaps fundamentally he is more of an auteur uh um that's great it's well and so the precedent has been set casting caning can occur off of this podcast.

This can be a platform. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So don't, don't give up hope on the thing you baldly called out a couple months ago. Oh, you're talking about me when I begged for acting work for Jason and I on this podcast?

Sure. I was trying to play it cool here, but yes, no, I begged for it. I've said to you many times. I started crying, I think. That's how I remember it. Yes. Yeah. I'm going to say I got all the shirts again cool here, but yes, no, I begged for it. I've said to you many times. I started crying, I think. That's how I remember it.

Yes, yeah, yeah. I was like, honestly, I'll be sure it's again. And then started shouting, yelling about Frank Marshall again. Yeah. This is like the first real action I've had on camera in four and a half years. Wow. Yeah. Wow.

Yeah. Oh, my God. Some of that's by choice, but a lot of it isn't. You know, it's a comedy. Pandemic was in there. Banging down my door. You know, the couple of things I tried for, but a lot of it isn't. Like, you know, it's a common. No one was like. Pandemic was in there. Banging down my door. You know, the couple of things I tried for, whatever. But it was very unexpected.

I do think it is an affirmation that it is possible. Wow. That doing a podcast is not perhaps a career killer. I was starting to worry that maybe it was. It's not like a circuitous exit path from the industry you started trying to get into. Perhaps not. That's good to know. That's good, because I've got to start setting up meetings next week for a remake of You're Never Too Young.

This is what I'm saying. If you are similarly a writer-director out there who is secretly a PTR fan, start writing. They all are secret fans. Start writing Mike and Jason buddy comedies. They don't want to tell. This is Martin and Lewis right here. This is what I'm saying. Let this pin it in your head right now.

He's the guy, Jason's the guy in the sailor suit, and Mike is the guy who gets hammered. Hammered in a tuxedo. Yeah, it writes itself. It's perfect. What's in the Avatar packages, Mike? Okay, there are two of them are Na'vi.

It might be the same Na'vi. Forgive me, I don't know. I can't identify. And then one of them is absolutely the Sigourney Weaver Na'vi, I think. No, the new character? No, it's the original Dr. Grace Augustine in Na'vi form. I believe it's Augustine in her

Avatar form I think these are all First movie Because McFarlane product Has been two waves Right now the stuff On shelves is in fact

From the first movie And the Way of Water Is coming out soon It's all on preorder Is Way of Water McFarlane toys Have you pulled The trigger yet

I haven't gotten Any of them But I think it's Very smart Because I was waiting Dorkside toys dot com Often has really Good sales They have great sales You gotta stay on them Like a hawk But they got great sales McFarlane made I think it's very smart Because I was waiting Dorkside toys dot com Yes Often has really good sales

They have great sales You gotta stay on them Like a hawk But they got great sales McFarlane made A bunch of princess bride toys And there's of course A Wallace Shawn toy

It's finally As of yesterday $9.99 An inconceivable price Pulls the trigger On that baby I waited Because it was like

You know It starts at $25 Or whatever But I waited till $9.99 I got him coming He's coming home now Finally I'm sorry what is is it the just wallace sean it's from the movie princess bryce okay his character's name irrelevant

yes thank you um but so i guess what i'm saying is even though there have been good deals on it i'm still waiting yes i think we'll there'll be a mcfarland toys generally there's a good discount period for most of them so i'll maybe get a couple after the hype dies down for movies but will it ever i mean truly i look i hope it doesn't but i that's what my strategy is right now um well if this is if this is winding us down then i think an important thing to do at this point is to say, Griffin Newman, you survived Podcast The Ride. Yes. Let's exit through the gift shop. Are there any chipmunk-oriented projects that you would like to plug?

The Disney Plus original film, Disenchanted, that I think may be of some interest to listeners of this podcast, comes out November 18th. I think it is really good. I really like it. We talked about it when you guys were on blank check but i auditioned for jiminy cricket in the pinocchio movie and was very bummed that i didn't get it because i was like it would have been cool to be the fun little animal sidekick

in a disney movie and then this part landed somewhat circuitously and i could not be happier as to which movie i ended up yes yes having all experienced one of these films together yes uh yeah and and not the other we have not uh seen disenchantia but i um i love i've been loving the drops because there had been pip drops in both trailers yeah extra information revealed in the last one, which I liked so much. Pip's got some range in this movie. He's got a couple different forms he takes. It's a lot of fun.

And they did a character poster this week, which as a movie nerd is like a big thing, where it's like there's an isolated Pip poster. That's great. God, incredible. That's great. Which is cool. Also, theme park connection,

I believe you told us about this movie when we were sitting in Galaxy's Edge together. Yes, I believe so. It's been a very long thing. I mean, I got asked as a favor to fill in at a script read-through. And they were trying to, as Disney is wont to do, get a famous person to play the role. A more famous person. Tom Hanks past.

Yeah, no, I was filling in and I was told explicitly there is no job here. Wow. Do you want to do this favor? My friend Barry Josephson is the producer of the movie and produced The Tick. Okay. Said you'd be doing me a really big solid.

I know you're enjoying doing voiceover and you'd be on a Zoom with all these Disney execs and maybe some other thing comes of it. It'd be a nice little show reel to do sure and i did this uh this zoom read and a week later he calls me he's like we're gonna hire you to play the chat monk oh my god and it was a wild thing and i truly have spent the last 18 months being like they might replace me at any moment you know i could be the scratch voice for this i was told i was the guy but it felt so bizarre that it happened that way yeah that uh the whole time it's been uh precarious just in my anxious mind but i've really really enjoyed working on it and so fun to do i mean because like disenchanted is

such a riff on the sort of archetypes of the classic disney princess movie right right and so so often it was going like oh it's this type of scene uh-huh you know like oh this needs to work by i'm referencing that kind of thing not directly but tonally you're like you have to hit these beats and kind of do it with a little awareness of like yeah we're doing a tropey people will recognize it's a tropey scene so i like how much do i play into that yeah and there was a thing i'll say this isn't a spoiler but my my character is like the bookends of the movie he like sort of narrates the beginning of the end of the movie and so there's like the opening five or so minutes are me sort of uh an insane thing is in the first movie this

is done by julie andrews they do this sort of classic disney the book opens and they tell you the story and in this one i do it which is wow it says a lot about what's happened to the entertainment industry in the last 15 years but it's gotten better yeah the first five minutes are like mostly me marathoning all the sort of table setting for the movie wow and we did it really early on. And I recently went back and I said, like, it was the last thing we could sort of change still as they were, like, locking the movie. And I said, and you go back and you do little lines.

Every four months they'd call me in. I'd do a little bit, you know, they'd say, we want to change this or this got rewritten or this isn't playing this way or whatever it is. How literally, I'm always curious about things like that. Would you go in and it's four lines or is it always a ton? It was never four. The first day I did it, they were like,

we're about to start filming. Or they just started filming on set in Ireland with the live action actors. And they were like, we need you to do the entire movie so we can replay this on set for people to act off of. So that was sort of like fairly rough first draft stuff i was still figuring out the voice but it was the whole thing and then every time i went in after that i was like is it gonna be a thing that they bring me in for just two or three lines it'd be a

lot and it's like they shoot the whole live action movie the animation comes in they adjust things there were reshoots at a certain point it's like an ever-moving thing but i i said like is it possible to redo the whole opening thing because so much of it had been sort of getting replaced one line at a time and the thing i i picked up on it was i really think they screened sleeping beauty in new york uh at the museum moving image which like rarely do the classic disney animated film get shown in theaters anymore and like on its film prints it's 70 millimeter is incredible and i watched that and i was like oh the thing i'm missing is the musicality of the thing and i was

like well you let me do this again from beginning to end because it finally took me that time to realize the thing that makes it work is the like you know it was like oh it truly has to be this sing-songy thing even though i'm not singing and then that was sort of such a fun thing to realize of like oh i'm like figuring out the math of what makes a disney movie sound like a disney movie so you're using the like you you went to that screening just to go to that screening but like your film nerddom feeds directly into you get to use it for this what's so cool about this part is i feel like so much of it feels like weird karate kid wax on wax on stuff where i'm like all

the things i've like hyper fixated on throughout my life i now understand like oh i understand exactly what this scene needs to be because i understand the trope we're playing with here you know so they were receptive to you they were i i i i mean once again i was like i keep on thinking you're gonna fire me sure i keep on thinking i'm a placeholder and i was surprised by how much they let me and it was a process of earning the confidence to say like can i throw something out can i try this is it more that or this or whatever but i i really felt like it was a very very uh creatively satisfying process i'm really happy with how it turned out and uh great in my contract oh go ahead i feel like we i believe we didn't

know how this was gonna yeah yeah yeah we're gonna figure it out in my contract it was the one thing i was like to my rose i, I was like, get this in there. If they do anything in the theme parks, they have to get me to do it. It's not, there's no Jim Hanks. There's no sound alike. I am not. They're not getting your brother from Paris to do it. No.

Basketballs. You could hear basketballs bouncing in the background. I don't know. What's this line? He probably could do a good impression of me but but that was the thing so it's just like there's nothing in the works there's nothing locked in it's obviously based on if the movie's successful people want to see stuff or whatever but it is like i got that in there where it's like if there's any other thing where the character talks if it's a toy or a theme park or whatever yeah god i want to still be the voice you might you you made this be hammered out via reps this had to be discussed and yeah and it wasn't even like

a money term thing it was like you just have to call me yeah wow wow so you and you made good you you got up to that but like a like a dream plate to get up to. And you did what you feel like you had to do. I mean, it's a Disney movie, and I'm making sure that I'm always... Yeah, yeah. Because I'll fucking ride this horse like Gad if I can. Sure, yeah. I would be happy to ride this into the ground.

I like this guy. He's a cool little chipmunk. I'd play him for 20 years. I'd do anything they want me to for this well when the mickey copyright expires they're gonna say it all remember it all started with a chipmunk it all started with a chip and then you're gonna be the face of a lot they're gonna tell people like it was pip the whole time yeah exactly it was always like mickey drew pip on a train yeah yeah it was mickey's So actually, he's more important. Mickey created it.

Walt created it. And Mickey's lamp. It's Mickey's apartment now. It is. In Disneyland. That's Mickey's lamp moving everyone over. Yeah, yeah. Walt first lives in Toontown now. Oddly enough, they just kind of squabbed.

Yeah. It's like the holiday. It's a holiday situation. Yeah, it's a holiday situation. Yeah. Walt, we're so excited for you. The table at the Tam O'Shanter. Yes, yes. a holiday situation yeah it's a holiday situation yeah um well we're so excited for you i think you would have the right to you go carve it into the table i think nobody get the knife out

yeah i'm carving pip get out of here get out of my face um we're so excited to to check it out excited for you let's just check it out. And boy, I hope that if the next step is Pip in the park somehow. Just something. Yeah. Put him in the partner statue. Put him in. He could be holding Mickey's hand.

It's the third, the lower tier. Yeah, it's a little, they step down. Yes. Beautiful. Well, excellent. Congratulations. Unless there's any more Marshall stuff to go

No the only final thing I said The only final correction I just want to settle here Mike did I believe in the Munsters episode Say that he

Believed that I had also Purchased a NECA Figure of Zombo The character From the show

Within the movie I need to correct I did not do that I threw it out The idea that i would never do such a thing he said not only do i think griffin owns it but i think he texted me and said i need that well i'm not angry about it i'm not angry about these mistakes happen we text each other about a lot of different products remember what was the toy then you said you needed it was at the same it was one of the san diego comic-con exclusives for 2022 at the neca booth i needed we were both trying to find the pre-sale windows where they were going to go up you want to buy zamba gremlin is what you want i wanted gretta the gremlin the bridal dress from gremlins 2

and i wanted the action figure of the poster from the thing that's right yes i got those neca made the the figure of the poster which is like that cool parka with the light coming out of the light coming out of the thing that's not really in the movie but i did not buy a zombo i have not bought a zombo i will not buy a zombo i do not need one i'm not offended i just want i have a reputation to maintain here indie directors are listening to this podcast to think about whether or not apparently to hire us you're a zombo guy you may not have gotten the role. I would not have gotten the role. You would never buy a Zombo.

You buy three Kingos. I buy three Kingos. No Zombo is three Kingos. Zombo is not Kingo. Zombo is not Kingo. Okay, you can find us on the socials at Podcast The Ride. Birch is available in our TeePublic store for three bonus episodes every month and to understand what the fuck we were talking about for the first 45 minutes

and for a lot of other stuff, too. And here's the best episode ever of Podcast The Ride. What an ad for our endorsement. Judge for yourself by checking out Podcast The Ride, the second gate, or get one more bonus episode on our new tier club three all that is at patreon.com slash podcast the ride we're heading i believe into a little thanksgiving break at which point your assignments are to watch disenchanted on disney plus and also the whole family yes get everybody in there yes don't leave don't leave grandma no no she'll love it love pip

uh and as for us so we're going to be off on the main feed, but I think this is a time out. If you want to hear us do something, I think on Club 3 we're going to delve into Kingdom Hearts and figure out what the fuck is going on. That is a daunting hill to climb. I haven't started yet. I haven't started, but got it.

I have the game sitting in plastic. Oh, you're going to play it, too. Yeah, yeah. I started going down that rabbit hole during the pandemic, and it's deep. Yeah, yeah. Boy. Yeah. We're not going to get to all of it.

Sounds deep, confusing, bizarre. So check all that out at patreon.com slash podcast the ride. Griffin, thanks for joining us. Great to hang, as always. And just two exclamations, I think, to say at the ride. Griffin, thanks for joining us. Great to hang as always. And just two exclamations, I think, to say at the end. One is, jumpin' jelly sticks! And the other is, sacre bleu!

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