Podcast: The Ride - Disneyland Pride Nite with Henry Gilbert

Episode Date: June 28, 2024

Henry Gilbert (Talking Simpsons) returns to talk Disneyland After Dark's second annual Pride Nite! Hear trip highlights like: Troy Sivan playing in Tomorrowland! C-3PO meeting guests in Galaxy's Edge! And Clarabelle Cow becoming a legend via dance! Donald's Quacky Duck City is up at The Second Gate: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide  FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Forever! Dog! Warning! The following podcast may include Leather Daddy Aliens, oddly understocked Rainbow Foodstuffs, and the serving of a C-word that doesn't stand for what you think. Henry Gilbert from Talking Simpsons

brings us a special trip report from Disneyland Pride Night on Podcast The Ride. And you know something? You can't spell Podcast The Ride without pride. I'm Scott Gairdner. Yeah, that makes you think, right, Mike Carlson? It makes me think of all the letters that are involved in the name.

It's kind of the primary. It's been in front of us the whole time. That's right. We've never thought about it. Jason Sheridan. Yeah, and we're only giving, we're only putting out two episodes in all of June, just as this event gets two nights out of a whole month. Yes, I think if listeners think back, they will note that we only put out those two episodes. Yeah.

Because we wanted to, yeah, in order to line up with the Pride event. How else do we show our support? It doesn't sound right, but it is right, I guess, if Jason said it. You go, yeah, in order to line up with the Pride event. How else do we show our support? It doesn't sound right, but it is right, I guess, if Jason said it. Yeah, it is. You go, but no, go check. Go check. You'll see. So today we're talking about Disneyland Pride Night, a fairly new event, a recently held event as we record this, and as you're hearing it just a couple days later, and an event that was just attended by our guest who is in town on podcast thread for the first time in person for the first time solo

uh from talking simpsons and what a cartoon it's henry gilbert hello hey hello i'm claire bell the cow super fan all right let's see you bust those claire bell moves i know the listeners can't hear it but oh look at it wow Wow. He's going wild. It is so Clarabelle-esque. That would go viral on TikTok if we posted it, but we weren't filming. Thanks for joining us, Henry. It's good to see you. Oh, no.

It's great to see you guys, too. We recorded in person on the Talking Simpsons podcast six years ago. Was it that long ago? like in on the talking simpsons podcast like six years ago when you guys you like rented a little like airbnb by warner brothers right next to warner brothers so it's been that long since we've seen you in person yeah wow no and i've been a a at-home podcaster uh remotely for so long with this like i feel like you guys are still on a screen away from oh yeah i can't physically touch you oh Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah.

Well, that's the thrill. Like, that's, you know, anything can happen. We can all get up and touch each other whenever we want. That's true. Just make something happen. I poke Jason a lot during recordings. Yeah. Just like, Jason, come on.

I have the bruises to show for it. Yeah. Even just doing two episodes this month, he's like upped his po-king. Jason doubling down. If we say it enough. Oh, yeah, it'll work. So, yeah, well, you're in town giving non-screened podcasting a try,

which we're happy about. But you're also, you've done like a ton of theme parking in addition to Pride pride now we're talking a little bit before we started uh anything you want to you've probably been you've been at theme parks more than we have recently i'd say anything anything from your travels you want to shout out man i've done so much yes so you know i had been a californian for for 17 years and now i've moved to seattle and so i kind of missed the like and i was in the bay area but it was nice back then to know oh an hour flight and i'm right here and can go to a theme park you know the and

my husband and i are big theme park people uh but we hadn't been in in a while though we did go to tokyo disneyland uh in january which actually christmas day we spent christmas day at tokyo disney that's a smart use of christmas that's good that's cool it was great but yeah now this uh this was our first big trip in a while and uh and we did the the mickey's runaway railway man oh what a good ride that was so yeah good right on yeah i know that seems pretty universally acclaimed other than by my three-year-old who was the way than three-year-old who was really terrified by it. Imagine that tornado sequence in the eyes of a three-year-old.

And when you're just like afraid of the dark in general, he definitely held it together. Then we got off and just erupted. But that also shows you it's an effective and immersive ride because he thought it was really happening. Yeah, but a lot of dark in it for sure. That is true. Yeah, yeah. And while the line is like, you know, as a person who does animation podcasts, like the line is so full of like little details that are so cool.

Like, I mean, just also I'm a huge Goofy movie fan. And so like there's like three or four posters that are just goofy movie references like the uh the freaky friday one and the high school musical parody one they're just like characters from goofy movie that is so cool to see which themselves like more recent references you gotta like that they are acknowledging the last 25 30 years of walt disney pictures and not just kind of like it's mary poppins and then it's uh nothing after that yeah though i also felt old in the line because there was like uh there was a lot of people in their 20s at at pride night there uh who and when they're in the line and see the

mickey's playhouse show which was like came out there's a mickey's playhouse section of it and which came out what i was like in my 20s and then they are looking at it like oh my god that's my childhood right there i was like oh oh wanted to die yes some of these get rough these generational switch heads for sure goofy movie is no longer the like cool hip reference anymore it's more for the 30s and 40s mike this is news to me i don't want to say it it may not aim to say it but i'm just saying that used to be like oh you know what's actually good is goofy movie and that's what the hip young people were saying something with paulie shore in it is no

longer considered hip i'm sorry to say it to the audience you haven't thought about it think about it now uh oh but outside of disney uh we i went to universal to do the i did the 60th anniversary tour which is a lot of fun it's really good though it makes it it makes that last bit of the fast and furious ride even shittier like it's like the last because basically they have a few updated things and much cool updated videos for it and then they have a stop down to like get photos for like the gram, like all of these, you know, like, oh, pose with, they put the, you know, the big Bruce shark, like you can pose with it like you used to in Orlando, you know?

And, and here's Dominic Toretto's car and then get in King Kong's hand. Is it just one zone? That's the like, get out, take pictures zone. Yeah. Yeah. Basically you do earthquake, which that was cool. That earthquakes open again too yeah yeah and then after refreshed although that bums me out because it doesn't look like 1987 anymore yeah it is sad it looks like like 10 years ago bart station now instead of like 70s at least it's at least it's not current i just don't want it to

be current that's my main yeah you you were happy there's like a cinderella man poster yeah yeah yes theme parks are meant to be at least a little bit out of date yeah yeah but i like our guide presented as uh as now this is uh i think it's studio 15 he's like studio 15 now this used to have earthquake ride but we've changed it now and it's we're shooting something else here and now hey wait a minute oh oh like so that's good it uh the tour guide was great like he i really look i don't want to guess the sexuality this is the pride episode but he was he called himself a southern bell when he was describing how much he loves like being in the western set so i was like he seemed like a very effeminate guy he was having a good time and uh it was i i love that indiana tour guide oh that's nice that's good but but yeah you get you have a stop off to

get your instagram pictures and then you get back on and then the only thing they got left is the fast and furious part and i'm just like god i wish i could just get off now if they gave you the option yeah would you like a golf cart to take you the rest of the way skip what you know is coming oh and ted ted has a new sign that's like we celebrate 60 years of the tour and oh wow i was like oh my god ted's got a new sign wow wow wow uh yeah i feel like we oh god i was just gonna say it's in the same spot ted has always been i think yeah ted's in the same spot but now he's got a sign what was celebrating 60 years of the studio tour make sure there wasn't a new ted no i i don't think it's a new ted but yeah uh you know what's been a nice thing maybe you guys have noticed this because we all live pretty near

universal studios and just kind of a fun little like a dash of color in in the surrounding areas right now is that sometimes it happened to me right before I came over I was at a coffee shop and a bus went by and the bus a lot of buses around here are decked out like the glamour tram like full bus wrap of the red and white and so and like it was parked this morning in such a way that I couldn't even see the front and there was a minute and like it was parked this morning in such a way that i couldn't even see the front and there was a minute where i kind of bugged out like is that did the tram get loose is it lost is it out on the street uh but it's not and and the you know and our beloved care our beloved woody woodpecker you'll see on it uh just just brightens up the town you know

yeah it was it was really great and i also did the uh the warner studio tour which i'd never done before which is fun you get to see all the things back when warner brothers like made movies instead of like shelving them and not releasing them tax write-offs although they should i mean how cool would it be to see the like and in there are the is the shelf that coyote versus acme is sitting on there you want to see Do you want to help us destroy it? We got hammers. This is the Lee C drive. The orange rubbery hard drive that used to contain a screener copy. There's like an urn full of the Batgirl hard drive that you just have sitting on a shelf.

And they're like, that's the remains of Batgirl. Unreleasable. Yeah. It was fun though the the right though they really you can see how they market it towards like the international folks who are coming there because they're like it's like half friends they're like there's an entire like here's we built a central perk you can take pictures in and here's like the friend's fountain and a couch that they uh and though they have to admit like this isn't the real fountain we've had to

move the fountain from where it used to be and this is where we put it for the uh the reunion special and all that oh yeah and then also like a ton of harry potter stuff and i'm just like no thank you and then and then though i think that i think the warner studio tour is stealing valor because they have like a whole Lord of the Rings section there. And I'm like, now, come on. Like, that is a New Line thing. You guys didn't green light this. Like, that is not Warner.

They released it, though, technically? I don't think I even know the association. They released the Hobbit movies. And I mean, New Line was owned by Warner by the time Return of the King came out. So it's not like they don't own it. But I'm a real stickler about that. Like with Fox stuff are you like Disney

doesn't own Alien. Oh man on Pride Night I was saying to my husband they play a song from they play This Is Me from the World's Greatest Showman and I was just going like this isn't a Disney song this is a Fox song I saw a video of that and I was like wait like this isn't a disney song this is a fox song i saw a video of that

and i was like wait hold on oh yeah i guess yeah like doing the math in my head i i mean well and it's like oh now it's i guess a 20th century film like that's the branding for it but yeah it was but yeah the the warner tour the most it was also fun you get to hear different patches of people in the group like ooh and odd stuff where she'd say like our tour guide said this is where this is where like 800 episodes of gilmore girls were filmed and some parts were going like ooh and then then the big bang theory section and then the and then i love that she was like a big trekkie uh the and she's like now there's no the only star trek thing here i can name is that the episode next generation

with data in the old west was filmed here like for a fistful of data i think it's called yeah fistful of data yeah is there old west stuff there i'm sure well she was saying it used to it got torn down but she's like this was the old west section and it what this is where that was i think every lot uh because like all in the same neck of the wall, pretty close to each other, Disney, Warner Brothers, Universal. And Universal still has some Old West. Disney's is all gone. Disney's is all offices.

I didn't know until right now that Warner had Old West and got rid of so much real estate in the Burbank, Toluca Lake, whatever you want to call it, North Hollywood area, was once Western sets. It's the most valuable land in the world. But every studio needed, the way that was the thing, because that's something I had to say on the tour, was that Six Points, Texas, was where, because there were six different streets that you

could film six different Westerns at the same time. And can you imagine, are there six Westerns being filmed at the same time on the globe today? Kevin Costner's Rust. Kevin Costner globe today? Kevin Costner's Rust. Kevin Costner part one. Kevin Costner part two. Kevin Costner part three.

Is Yellowstone a Western? Technically? Sure. Let's go with that. All right. Let's call it. They got cowboy hats. Well, they got the 1893, the spin off of Yellowstone.

Oh, yeah. The Harrison Ford. So there's one. Yeah. Okay. No, yeah. I mean, I feel like they film western

western movies about westerns like Once Upon a Time in Hollywood that's what they use the western set for oh yeah so there still have to be

sound stages towering over the western set usually it's got to be kind of a double set it's the only way I wonder if the tour

at Universal is the reason some of that stuff is still there because it's almost like there's an incentive to have a western part just to say, oh, that's the western part of the tour. It's also sort of perfectly, you know, if you haven't been on the tour or you don't know the area, like big swaths of the back lot are kind of turning into studio space.

They're like tidying it all up, right? It used to be switching back and forth between soundstage and theme park. And now it's kind of like theme park stuff goes over here. Studio stuff is over here. Soundstages are over here. But yeah, I think maybe the Western stuff has survived just because it's like in the middle. It's like protected. Yeah.

But they probably, I don't think they need the flash flood a lot. Like for filming day to day. I don't think that's getting a lot of use yeah i probably would be happy to rip it out but but it's a it's in the sealed in the bubble yeah right right i feel like movies and tv shows are using the crash plane set more than the yes than the old west do see that where people do try to reappropriate that here and there like on cbs like procedurals and stuff i feel like i think maybe is combing through the wreckage like looking for stuff sure yeah and oh and the the the saddest

thing on the warner tour that that uh they actually showed us was like and here's the they could show us an empty sound stage uh that wouldn't be interrupting anything. And when they got out of there, they're like, you know what was filmed here? The Conan show. The TBS Conan show. I was like, man, this is extra depressing. It's just empty now. It's just nothing. Really? Nothing ever went in there? Nothing's in, at least currently, nothing is in

there. It's also weird that like, because I remember wondering when will this show end and when will they turn off the lights on the place where I worked and where I have a lot of fond memories? And the answer is, it was just abandoned. Everybody just dropped their pens and papers one day during pandemic. They were just out. And then it went home.

And then it was done at Largo for a little while. And nobody ever went back to that studio or did anything there. Just a weird, unceremonious and bizarre conan's show endings besides the first one none of them are none of them are done with the proper heralding um well that's sad that's sad to hear i'll try to bounce back well here's a happier memory there actually for when we sat on the friend's couch we're like well let's get the friend's couch picture wasn't that important to us but then our the tour guide pointed out oh and you know over there those steps up to a bank that was used in the batman 66 show every time he went into city hall he ran up these stairs

i'd go like sit on there sometime when i had like constant backlot access like i'm just gonna take a sandwich over to the Batman steps. That was a good deal. It also reminded me how one time I saw a golf cart tour go by once when Conan was outside the studio. And I watched him just give scarily what anybody would want if you were on the tour, which is it like stopped at a stop sign. And he said, hey, everyone, it's me conan o'brien from television your eyes don't deceive you take a look take it all in take photographs and it almost like was probably purposefully too much she's like can i be so willing to participate in this that it's

scary and it was very fun to watch that show uh occur you out. Yeah, there's a lot of, like, a lot of the sound stages are Batman and Robin. Like, if you go and look at the, like, little plaque and stuff. They used, like, everything. And I think they used Universal, too.

Yes. And it says, like, what I love about it is it's, like, Casablanca. Casablanca! And then 70 years later, whatever, 50 years later,

Batman and Robin. No, yeah, there's, they, she, our tour guide said, and Robin. No, yeah, there's the achievement. Our tour guide said, like, and this is where Chris O'Donnell drove the stolen Batmobile down the streets. There was also, the tour guide had another very funny part where she said,

and you know, this area, this is where Austin Powers, gold member filled. Like, she had like a pause, just a pregnant pause. Bring everybody down. We're like oh gold member I feel good kind of good

Beyonce strong cast Britney's in it and I got to see the alleyway where Spider-Man did his upside down kiss that was also

where Purple Rain's cover was photographed I didn't know either of those I just learned that oh that's fascinating yeah

wow there's so much Hollywood historywood history that's the yeah i love all the little trivia like that's i've really come to love tour guides on these trips now like who are ready to be asked a really dorky question about like was any of the matrix shot here which is what i asked and she's like i guess some i don't know like what well she did now i'm saying like she had lots of good answers now i'm saying the time she had no good answer but hard to know everything you try to keep as much in your pocket as you can there is a very ominous thing by the warner brothers lot right now which is there is like a three-story vertical billboard that always had the big summer release or the big

barbie for a while yeah barbie and the last time i drove by it was just white it was just nothing and it's like that's a little too on the nose for this company if you stare closely it's actually it's just really fine print and it's all of the details of the tax write-off forms that says oh yeah they had to post it somewhere legally they had to post technically you are looking at the the poster for batgirl yeah it's one of those things where you select all text and you turn it white but it's on a white background so they're close it's there what a fun oh you remind me that's something we need to do in the near future is yeah we're doing but it's on a white background. It's there. What a fun. You remind me,

that's something we need to do in the near future. Is that what we're doing? Well, that's great. Great travels. But it seems like the main thing, or at least the kind of unique thing happening during your trip specifically, was Disneyland Pride Night,

which you went on. I mean, there were two nights of it. You went on Thursday, you said. Yeah, I went on Thursday. Yeah, there were two nights of it. You went on Thursday, you said. Yeah, I went on Thursday. Yeah, so the Pride Night NITE, we had been thinking about going. So it started last year. I mean, there's a whole history to it. But yeah, it started last year, this official Pride Night at Disneyland.

And our friends went to it, our other gay friends, who are big theme park people, including Nick and alan who i bet are listening to this uh so hey nick but but they told us how much fun it was and uh that we were like okay we gotta go next year and also it coincided with my my husband's. So it was kind of a fun birthday trip. And we're such park people that we're like, all right, let's, we can now see the differences. And we've watched enough park content of the influencers and whatnot to know like the terminology now. But so, yeah, we went, you could get in as early as 6, but the stuff didn't start until 9. And so it's one of those official wristbanded events and everything.

And they kick everybody out. Just the regular day riff-raff. Yes. And this is Disneyland Park only? There's not a California Adventure? No, no. It's only California Adventure, which the most heterosexual california venture probably is is that that six to nine moment when all the gays are in pride night

yeah yeah and there's no orlando one yet not yet yeah i mean you know that's that's a big thing apart i mean it's it's florida so yeah and I, you know, personal background here. I can make fun. I can make the Florida's racist jokes because I grew up in Florida. I was there, lived there from 10 to 25. So I can make these jokes. I'm not just an outsider. Sure, sure. You're not doing stolen valor.

Yes. Exactly. Yeah. I think it started at Disneyland Paris, though. I think they did an official Pride Night first. Oh, wow. And then California was decided to get on the, you know, the Rainbow Bucks bandwagon. land paris though i think they did an official pride night first oh wow and then california was decided to get on the you know the rainbow bucks bandwagon and and do it but well that's a question

are you were you like a little cynical going into was is it a mix were you more cynical or more excited yeah i mean boy yeah that's it's so yeah, as a gay man, to preface things, no. But, no, I mean, obviously, I'm tired of, like, rainbow capitalism and people put a rainbow on a thing and they sell it to you because they know gay people spend money. Like, of course, I'm very cynical about these things. I'm a pretty left-wing, cynical guy. Yet, I do love the parks.

Sure. And I like to buy things and they have like and there is some level of like ironic detachment i i brought to it too but that i there is something about feeling wanted to buy the corporation that on some level i can't fully divorce myself from they're like oh disney wants our money now like that's a form of acceptance. Like, that's not a sentence. And being open to getting money from a type of person. They don't reject our money as gross and disgusting.

No, it spends the same. Like, yeah. I mean, it's different than, yeah, like, I don't know, you know, Keurig putting out, like, turning their K into rainbow color like you know you don't need you don't care or necessarily about there's things that seem a little more cash in but disney like i guess you you probably want it to all coalesce into something because it's part of your childhood but no matter how cynical you get or how like are any of our opinions about the company today well yeah we're we are tied up in these

stories it's part of our childhood no matter what it's also like a struggle because like the corporation itself is always uh almost always evil and just wants money but the people in charge of disneyland i'm sure there's a bunch of people that are excited about it and are gonna like oh that's what's a fun cupcake we could make and people do the little uh projects projects and who do like, who are like, I don't know, like now there's a practice. You can do a cool display in this main street window. Like that's the weird relationship. We know there's people in there who aren't evil and who mean very well.

Sure. No. And the general vibes are so fun that night. I mean, especially like there are so many people. I was watching videos from people who went the previous year and like they were in tears going like, thank you, Disney, for recognizing us and accepting us. This is so beautiful. Thank you. And you can't not be touched by that.

Like even as cynical as I can be sometimes. And the general vibes are just really great the whole time like everybody is so excited to be there and get their pictures taken with every possible thing and everybody dressed up and they're wearing their like rainbow clothing or red shirts as well which has like a real historical background to it uh that it it it's hard not to be but occasionally i will have moments like that wait that's pride representation why does this like i have a list of things oh yeah i'm like well that doesn't seem like pride representation to me but okay like there's there's there is cognitive dissonance but it's a fun time though no i wish they allowed any alcohol in it i guess i could have gone into ogres to drink but that's the one thing that didn't make it feel like a up till 1 a.m pride night thing to me of like i can't drink at all like

that was my i'm wondering yeah like well i mean i guess they don't want to change the rules but would it be worse though a california adventure just because it doesn't feel as big of a deal because you're not having this event in the main part yeah fairy tale perk yeah that's true it does it it does mean more to do it have the rainbows on the castle right down main street and everything it does mean a lot more than than the california then like wait they so they lit up the facade of the theater in hollywood that they only use sometimes like the sound stage that hasn't been anything for 22 years has my back that's great the confusing looking bear rock formation

has a rainbow on it you can kind of see the thing that i assume is a bear from its name but it doesn't always look like a bear it supports me whatever it is it is a bear and tonight we're also going to use the other definition of that term all right well i'm on board with that that sounds good now that's it made me sad that the uh as it always does but that the country bear jamboree has been gone for so long that like that would be all the bears would go there like that would be just so beautiful like when i i was looking up history of like gay days at disney stuff uh in prep for this and like there's a great video it's like from 2010 from gay days in orlando

and those are the unofficial yeah i was gonna ask about that have you ever gone to either the anaheim or orlando because they are at both places now the gay days no i i have not but i have a funny story about that with the history of it so yeah so the gay days in orlando like i believe 1991 is the first unofficial start of it and it was you wear a red shirt you attend disney and wear a red shirt to indicate you are an lgbtq person who is there to celebrate it is a it was started as you know a stealth thing or not exactly stealth but like and obviously not sanctioned by disney that's where that's why of all the pride shirts they had i bought a red shirt oh yeah it acknowledges that history too right yeah and i and i know they made i am certain whoever made the shirt said we

have to have a red shirt because like we want to recognize unofficially that thing but sure sure uh but so in 90 so i never got to go to magic kingdom even though i grew up in jacksonville florida uh we didn't go to magic kingdom until like i was like 16 or 17 but we almost went uh as part of an end of year uh school trip like end of year school trip and it was going to be the first uh weekend of like the first friday of june and then some nosy parent or teacher discovered that that was gay days that it lined up with gay days and so they canceled it so i here i was excited to finally go to magic kingdom like i finally i'm gonna get to go and then homophobia cancels it they're like we're

not bringing a ton of school kids to gay days no no no like they cancel it we go to bush gardens instead which for me like i do not like roller coasters that are unthemed and it was like just it had nothing for me it was like you took away the thing i liked and instead put me in a place where i'm incredibly nervous and anxious that somebody's gonna make me ride a roller coaster that scares me as a kid. Oh, that's hard. So yeah, you lose Disney World. You don't get to, and at this point in time, where are you at on your-

I'm like 10 then, so I don't even, I'm just learning what a gay day is even. Okay, yeah, yeah. I suppose this was another of those. I remember as a little kid uh like or when i was nine or so i think my mom rented philadelphia on vhs and i had to ask her like well wait why are people mad at tom hanks in this movie and she had to explain what what aids and homophobia was to me i didn't understand so i was this was another of those oh, people don't like queer people and they don't watch to be at Disneyland because of that or Disney World because of that.

And then you don't get to go. And then I don't get to go either. And you're confused about your feelings about all of it. Now it's like school telling you, we're not going because it's bad to be this. What a double nightmare. I can only imagine what a lady in the 90s especially thought that was at Disney. Yeah. What a nightmare she thought was going on.

I mean, I'm sure they thought there's live sex acts happening down Main Street in Magic Kingdom if you go on gay days. At the very least, it's just like everyone is buff and in thongs. You will walk around. At the least, yeah. You will not see a shirt all day. Yes. At the least, yeah. You will not see a shirt all day. Yes. At the least. I, my family ended up at Gay Days in 95 or 96.

Oh, oh. Because we just happened to be there in June. And I don't know, I was 10 or 11 and I had no idea what to make of it. Because, yeah, I had seen like, i had seen philadelphia at that point because i was like hey we live by philadelphia i'm gonna watch this movie it's gonna be a romp it'll be like there'll be some song like i love la philadelphia city of fun city of cheese sticks why isn't this why isn't the movie about our town happier so i i didn't uh i didn't really know what to make of it uh but it was probably a good like for you know a little 10 year old from the suburbs go like oh it's just a big tour group they're just doing everything

like we are yeah yeah yeah it's it's just gays who like theme parks and we're trying to i i do think it was it was done you know in opposition to disney a little bit though then when you look at the history of like disney and gay stuff in the in the 90s let's just say that like uh they they were both trying to they had you know howard ashman among many who were you know these prominent gay men who probably gay men who did major stuff for disney but then also they have all of the conservative christians back then saying oh disney's trying to make your kids gay like and and so disney's trying to they want that still in the early 90s? Oh yeah. It was so, yeah, there was so,

I've read old news articles and it's the same shit. Even on the Gay Days Wikipedia, it says controversy and I was like, what is this? And there was like one or two sentences about like,

oh, the travel company was doing the Orlando one. They ended up canceling the one year because they started doing Gay Days and they didn't want

to be disrespectful and compete. But most of the section was about religious cranks just being homophobic yeah well and also like they had in disney in the 90s was one of several corporations that did like uh you know extending medical benefits to partners to life partners and so just that was a talking point of like they're recognizing this in the next like making a part of their business they're hiring these people like yeah so disney uh so having gay days unofficially there wasn't helping if i'm thinking like a disney pr person i'm like well this isn't helping us not look like uh a bunch of homosexuals uh here having gay days it's like it's like even it feels like they're sanctioning it even though they don't

even though it's not really and it also seems like as years went on it was like oh yeah we don't participate in this wink wink and then but they all you know of course you organize it officially through a disney person at some point. But yeah, what a strange thing. I mean, it's, I don't know, it shows you how far it's come that they have a sanctioned event anywhere. And well, and then last year, even with all of the DeSantis stuff with him, you know, like using Disney and queerq stuff as his main talking point like gay days was a huge like it was getting more press last year than it had in a while because like wow so you're still doing this even with desantis doing all this stuff like are you scared to come to florida for this you know destination vacation thing and and the the people they interviewed representing the gay days group

and planning stuff they're like oh, we're not going anywhere. They're not going to scare us away. And my funniest, the funniest one in the clip I saw was this bearded gentleman who was explaining all of the Gay Days stuff, bald and a beard. And he's like, yeah, and, you know, I love going to Gay Days. Me and a bear group, we go down to this and see this stuff. And then the reporter goes like, now like now bear what does that mean and then the the guy goes like um well where's this airing yeah yeah uh yeah it's it's funny that like i i mean looking back now just how the the success that desantis had with this as a talking point as his primary

pillar the way this mobilized the country really shook us up and reminded us of our american value he wrote it all the way to maybe maybe a double digit in one election one time one primary yeah primaries maybe tops like yeah and and certainly he's on the short list of the VP, right? Oh, he's got to be. He's got to be. They aren't saying his name on the news, but you know he's in Trump's head. We got the guy wearing the weird shoe lifts. We got the woman who kills dogs.

They're all still on the VP list. No, yeah. Ella, the country bear thing I was mentioning, mentioning i i you can find i think it's on youtube you'll find it it's i think 2010 at the country bear jamboree it was it's labeled as like huge group of bears like as in the gay community bear group they are they're in the audience watching it and it's them singing along with everything like they they love i i'm sorry i don't know the names of all the characters like you guys would.

What? I'm sorry. I'm upset. Go ahead. Every guy that turns me on turns me down. Like, they are loving that song. Like, they, though, based on the audience reaction, I think their favorite was Big Al, I'm going to say.

Sure, sure. Yeah. That's sure. You can watch a video of the response. Yeah, the audience reaction, singing along, and when Big Al out comes up it's like wolf whistles like whoo like they were so and it was funny that the end of it the uh the cast member presenting it was like we thank you so much you guys were such big fans thank you we love having you guys there yeah like they were being very nice but not but not recognizing the the level of gay irony to the this attendance of country vocalizing the common

element between this exciting crowd there is some very good niche programming on gay days of just like yeah bears go to country bear jamboree uh uh women who love women go to this restaurant teen meetup go to this restaurant you know and it's all it's so fun it's so it's so fun like the gay days look so fun i want to go like now i never went as a as a kid and then i've like but i am a real this is after moving to to California, I am so much more a California parks person than an Orlando parks person. Though maybe it's just like Florida weather reminds me of being like an unhappy teenager. And so like just feeling it, it makes me unhappy.

How does this square? Jason, I feel like Florida weather reminds you of the happiest you've ever been or will ever be. That was pretty sure. Not teenager. Okay, it reminds you of the only times you were happy as a teenager. Yeah, that's true. Well, the weather

in California and the East Coast had been very similar the last few weeks. Just less humidity or some more humidity than we used to have due to our changing world no jason i i uh as a side like your your love of islands of adventure i totally vibe with that because like one of my the first trip my family did to universal was i want to say 94 95 but

but it was when the welcome center was there for previewing the stuff and that when i saw like i was excited just to write all the you know especially back to the future so excited for that but when we went that welcome center and saw i saw there was a spider-man right there i was like wait when when is this when is this like i was and the four years of waiting until that was the longest four years ever sure and this is a brag that only matters on a podcast like this but like i my mom won a radio contest to we got to go to islands of adventure april 99 we got to go and like preview like i got to ride spider-man before like anybody and and all the other stuff too but sure yeah it's all the deal oh and then jason's

seething jealousy is just a subtle tension through the entire rest of the episode it just probably whacks the island skipper tour books though spider-man did break down a lot that day not on us but it did break down a lot it is of a the past being what it I feel like people don't remember how much every big new technological breakthrough ride breaks down a lot. I remember we were waiting in Spider-Man's line for like three hours or more. Yeah. It was a long ride. It was wild. And even though I love being in the Daily Bugle,'m like well i it's it's starting to even stretch

my love of being in the daily i've read all the file cabinet names i've explained to my family so much the differences between ben uric and charlie snow and randy robertson versus robbie robertson every member of the daily bugle staff i've listed it for him it's their i'm sure great amusement yes i know what every reporter makes i know their yearly salary and benefits uh can i call out the thing this is fascinating in a uh you know where things were back then you brought up the red shirts uh and that's how everybody identifies each other at these events. But I read how, you know, in order to basically back in the 90s, Disney employees had to be ready with all sizes of white shirts to hand out to regular guests who happened to be wearing red shirts that day. Like, show that you don't dare associate with, that you could not be included in the group.

Wow. I hadn't heard that. That's amazing. Isn't that insane? I mean, I know I've gone to a Target wearing a red shirt and going like, I look like an employee here. But it's like blue polo in a Best Buy. Yeah.

You gotta watch out. No, that's funny to think of some Disney family. They're like, well, we're red today for our big trip. That's how we won't miss each other. And then they realize that somebody whispers in there, like, that's the gay thing. Oh, no. Oh, God.

Oh, God. And then they just strip. I'd rather be naked. Wee, wee, wee. All right. Sorry, kids. Trip ended in 15 minutes. On the Warner tour i did they they have a you know a clip package of all the things that were filmed there and they did have a section of it that's

like ellen saying like and i love filming here it's great and every we all just like snickering to each other yeah she loved it yeah it was a great time on the Ellen set. Famously happy, yes. But yeah, well, but it's also come a long way Disneyland-wise because there's all of the Disneyland, well, first of all, that I think it's any sort of like private event. It started in 78, I was looking up. A lot of this is from disnetnet.org just to give them credit but in 1978 there was a private party organized by somebody named scott forbes who was the owner of a gay bar and they like they basically did it without saying here's what it is it was like a

bunch of restaurants came together booked disneyland out for a private party which was more common back then and it was set up and done before disney without ever any indicator that it was like a off the page gay day basically oh that's cool so it was set up that way in this sort of like piecemeal way and then it was booked and like great all right checks have cleared good now what's this event all about and they figured people figured out what it was and then there was this like you know in this still somewhat homophobic climate some disney people are saying wait a minute that can't happen we can't do that there can't be one of those and others are saying why not and then it's the struggle to like find a reason like well it'll be a debaucherous affair won't it why what do? What do you, well, don't, when they get together,

don't they all, what? What do you mean? What do they do? It's going to be cleanliness. That's it. That's the issue. The park will end up too. And then the next morning,

and some of this is recounted by Bob Gurr, that he said the next morning after the party was over, the manager was ready for extra cleanup work. Extra. It's going to be extra. And then our head of custodial came and said, who were those people? They said, why? What's wrong?

There's no trash. This is the cleanest we've ever had the park. Oh, that's wonderful. So this seems like a key moment of like, oh, just get in here. And there was no end to that that sentence uh and then and also retail sales were four times what they usually are for a private party so i think from that point on things kind of changed in terms of those relationships well you know another part of that gay history i was reminded of by uh one of the the friends i went with was the the homosexual fast dancing uh history yeah which is uh you know

i i'm not the videopolis expert here but yeah when they one of the controversies of videopolis was or videopolis was that uh same-sex dancing was like prohibited they're like wait boys can't dance so even if it is not obviously there are friends who just it's a group of girls dancing together but that would still break the rules and two men two men were ejected from the park for what was described officially as homosexual fast dancing and this i think i think that was a freestyled phrase by a security guard that was straight off the dome what a memorable that then is used in court proceedings yeah and also told this is a family park we do not put up with alternative lifestyles here put up with ejected that's great

that's thrown out yeah that is not and this is 1980 just to put it yeah it is always insane some of this stuff where it's like hey did you not just think to go down the hallway and ask Eric the gay man who works here like so is this a thing is this a thing we should be we could should be concerned about and he could just go no that's a thing you just made up. Right, right. It's like Twitter. You made up a thing to be mad at. Sure, yeah. I think in 78, some of the feeling was like, well, I don't know, a bunch of gay people

in Disneyland? And then a lot of employees are like, uh, yeah, actually. Maybe it has always been that way. Are you familiar with the creative industries in America? I know. Well, and especially like i and i was really feeling that on pride night of like if you not i'm sure there are lots of heterosexual cast members but if you like are an adult who loves disney who also is like great at dancing and

performing and you fall and you want to it's like your dream to work at Disneyland, it is possible you are an LGBTQ person. Like, you're likely gay. And so with that trending towards it, there definitely was a feel of, like, on the night, cast members were really enjoying it and feeling, like, extra. I felt an extra energy from them getting to perform on Pride Night.

Oh, jeez. Watching those videos, even, it's like everyone seems, like, in the parades,'s very excited which yeah like same way thing i was saying before we were like i bet even if the corporate whatever the corporation doing like everyone in the parade is like this is cool like yeah you can feel something there yeah yeah nice i i also just closed the loop on this thing i guess i'm realizing that particular thing if it was 1980 then that's pre-videopolis but then then years down the line, basically, Disney lost that, and they had to pay the legal fees and apologize to those two who got kicked out.

And then, not long after, they ejected more people. I was like, wait, what happened? There was that lawsuit. Well, no, that applied to the two of them. Wait a minute. So you've set up a situation where there to the two of them. Wait a minute. What? So you've set up a situation where there are only two men who are allowed to dance. You didn't think that was like that, like set a precedent that you had to follow for a no, no, no.

That was, we gave two men a special ability that no one else has. And then the policy becomes like, okay, well, no, that was about fast dancing. Slow dancing is still an issue, and that came to a head with a different lawsuit in Videopolis era. So it took two rounds of this throughout the whole 80s to get over. If I remember, I just re-watched the Defunctland video on it. In his history, he talks about it a bit. I think he's like, well, by that point, Videopolis was on its way out anyway and so they're like they're like yeah we'll just stop

if we're gonna have to allow same-sex dancing let's just have no more dancing let's just kill the thing oh god let's just end it and if this is what it's come to no it's uh yeah i i mean also on the the gay days thing too like i i think the fun of it or one of the their coolest things i saw on their promotion of it like or by the uh the gay days representatives is there are they there are tons of families with you know two moms two dads like that with with their kids they want to take them to disneyland and feel welcome instead of having to be like oh well this is i'm i'm the father and this is his uncle or i'm the aunt or whatever i'm her roommate all of these things like you can actually like have fun as a as a family then too like it and i have to remind

myself that like i obviously america is very homophobic, very still, but that the progress made just in like 10 years of just like seeing like gay parents with their kids or also like LGBTQ like kids and teens at this event being welcomed at it. Like that was not my childhood growing up at all. And I, I'm jealous of these kids on a certain level. Like, I was like, man,

you, you guys not, not in like the old man way of like, I had to go through all this stuff. You didn't, but, uh, just,

I'm like, boy, I wish I, I wish I had that childhood. Yeah. The chart of like how fast like gay marriage was accepted by at least like 60 or 70% of the population. I forget what the number is,

but like it goes so fast up. Like I, it is pretty shocking like to go like oh yeah all of a sudden just a couple years this massive change kind of happens yeah it's almost like some of these crazy opinions that come down as edicts are minority opinions they are extremely minority and we can look forward to a lot a lot more minority opinions governing however that might be right that was last fall when we went and

hit up some of the parks and did our shows in Florida when I was flying back it dawned on me I was like huh I didn't talk about politics with anyone the entire week we're in florida because anyone we met who lived there was just going about their life they were just doing their thing they were just going to work and going home and going to the grocery store

like yeah it's i met i met a ton of de santa super fans i don't know where i don't know what you were doing i guess they were yeah they guess they were all at Aventura. Every time I got in an elevator. There was that half, like half of the room was DeSantis at our live show. I don't know if you noticed that. They were our DeSantis supporters. That's weird. They were a pain in the ass.

They like when we do the impression of them, actually, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because we actually capture what they like about him. He's a foolish figure. It was all the people in the audience with the very sweaty faces. They purposefully make their faces extra sweaty in homage to their king. They have a little bottle they keep squirting on. Uh-oh, I'm getting a little dry.

I'm sweaty again. Wow. The thing I watch for in how conservative is uh airport i'm going through is i count like punisher t-shirts like that's the one like especially yes that's the one i'm like punisher or i guess just like uh any like iron sights or like target thing but definitely the punisher shirts which i maybe as a comic nerd that is why my eyes drawn to like a fellow comic oh wait nope no that used to be such an easy like comic convention or islands of adventure sooth it like yeah now the punisher shirt that on the back says islands of adventure like oh that's less of a keep i don't think anyone needs that

keepsake anymore i i would think people now think the Punisher logo has always had the blue stripe for the police. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, that was how it was designed in 1971, right? Sure, yeah. Stanley approved that in 1971. You must be a fan

of John Romita Sr. and Ross Andrews. Yeah. I had to consult with the media for that. The first time Scott's written a John Romita Sr. on this podcast.

His name means nothing to me. I know, Scott, you're much more of a Steve Ditko guy, and that's a big divide. Are you a Romita senior or are you a Ditko guy? He likes Romita Jr., though. Oh, yeah. His son, he does like him. A titan, yeah. In terms of, okay, we were starting to allude to this area, but like, uh, performers, I

think really bringing it at pride night. This was a big thing. This was very much noticed last year. This made it out. If you were not at the events themselves, this really like spread around online Disney fandom and Disney Tik TOK. Um, just like the, just the suited character performers that just like uh and even regardless maybe of like any prior like associations of their sexuality it's just like well part of it is

the dancing is just fire it's crazy did you find this to be true absolutely like that was those videos last year were a big reason of why we wanted to go like if it was just regular performers uh and then you know like a rainbow cookie we were like yeah we don't need to go to that but no it really was like the did the difference you see in the performers because like yeah they and this year even more like i think they saw the response and they pushed it even farther like as in like because you could totally feel how did they get this approved like you i was thinking like okay they got this approved but not that like they they played songs like they played i will survive there which you don't normally hear at disney but

there's no swears in it or they played you know uh shania twain's damn i feel like a woman except it's the man i feel like a woman wait i didn't know that was it damn it is damn in the album i've i don't have the full album uh still the one is that the net way is the album still the one i don't know the name of the album but but yeah the performers are feeling it and this year a huge uh improvement too was that i also think i do think the rupaul's drag race has helped like uh expand what mainstream people view gay culture and accepting it and there were like straight up drag style outfits on performers in the cavalcade the pride night cavalcade they had i believe they didn't have this last year this

year i believe it was five different uh women dressed in drag style outfits that were the it basically was like if this was on drag race the challenge would have been build a costume based on each of the lands like your frontier land your your tomorrow land and they were dressed up as it and they all like they look so great. Like the Adventureland one was like, it was like green with a big orange hairdo to, you know, the bird, the old. The orange bird.

Oh, that's cool. It was great. They were all, and they were having so much fun. And the performers in the character costumes were really, especially the queen of Disney pride pride is claribel cow like yes yeah she rules it the whoever is in the claribel cow mascot costume is a great dancer they know what they are doing with their dance performance that it is like these are moves claribel cow does not dance to any other day of the year i don't't think. That really does feel like if I had come in and said, like, oh, of course, Clarabelle Cow is a queer icon,

that would be such a confusing joke. But in reality, no, she's awesome. She is so fun, and she is like the queen of Pride Night. This is fascinating new mythology. And what really quickly come on over is the album, My Apologies. Oh, yeah. I was very disrespectful to shania to mutt lang a mega producer come on over is the album anyway i did but not the christina aguilera song come on over come on over babies are unrelated there's several come on overs oh and aguilera was represented there that they played

her version of reflection as well during the fireworks the opening welcome fireworks okay oh that's smart uh yeah claribel though this is fascinating because claribel is a character i think with no prior uh facets of any kind and i think it's right i mean like let's all remember something that claribel did in one of the cartoons or that she's done at the parks. This is a pretty, like, it was a blank canvas and how fun that they use this canvas in this particular way. They had a newer suit, I think, because they had put her in a more recent cartoon. She had been back with Horace Horsecollar because I definitely have a photo with the two of them at, like, the Thanksgiving we went to at the Disneyland Hotel. That's awesome.

Like, eight or nine years ago whatever yeah so like i feel like she was there but yeah i don't know that she had such a there was not that strong personality uh it's an implied relationship with or marriage to uh this this is a this is a cow horse relationship well okay i have a lot of opinions okay yeah i because i had look, I looked this up to confirm for me. To me, mentally, yes. Clarabelle Cow and Horace Horse Collar, they are a couple. Like Mickey and Minnie. Right.

Clarabelle and Horace, they're a couple. But because Horace Horse Collar, even more than Clarabelle, is like not at the parks and have been diminished so much that for branding purposes, she is usually, they are not officially a couple or anything but she is she is put together with goofy yes it is goofy in her i'm you know i just google image her she almost like you almost could just map goofy's face onto her yeah they can they work as a pair but to me goofy is a single father of max he's not with claribel or he's dating like another dog person like the his girlfriend in the extremely goofy movie like he's and he's stealing horace's gal in and by

getting with claribel like also claribel could be an independent single woman she does not need to be defined by dating a guy well it's unfortunate that horace never like manned up. Like they were in a situation for so long. So Goofy, Goofy was going to step in, you know, and then other certain continuity is his wife is dead. There are multiple Goofy storylines. I need this.

I've been sad for years. I'm so lonely. She wanted me to start over. Now that Max is out of the house, I got nobody nobody Max will understand my yucks are sad don't look at them I found yeah I know one of the videos

I found a picture of the two of them and I went oh interesting okay at the good night wave good night on the steps thing and Claire Bell my husband shared me a picture of it. We were at a different area, so we missed the goodnights at 1245.

He showed me the video, though, of when Clarabelle got there to wave goodnight, chants, Clarabelle, Clarabelle. And she's bashful, doing the bashful. Gay icon, wow. But then Goofy is comforting her, like, yeah, yeah, you, almost like a you deserve it. And I was just like, oh, it shouldn't be Goofy doing this her, like, yeah, yeah, you deserve it. And I was just like, it shouldn't be Goofy doing this.

It should be Horace. Was Horace nowhere to be found? I didn't see him anywhere. He was not listed on the character list or anything. Did they even have that suit? I told you they did. I met him. Oh, you met him then.

I met him. But they are using it today. I see, I see. But yeah, last year from the videos, Claire Bell is just like in the mix. But this year on the cavalcade, she was presented as like, she was Santa Claus at the end of the Macy's parade.

She was the last one. And like, and Claire Bell, like they didn't have Mickey's in the middle of the parade, waving at people like Claire Bell is at the end because they know everybody loves her this is like a populist movement this is like people's joker this is like like fully just done like a grassroots that it's like i i don't know how it happened last year but does it not see i i don't think that there were meetings in disney about like we're pushing clara bell we need to

get a great dancer for claire i feel like whoever was claribel was just like yeah this is my night i feel like somebody who's i think anonymous still like made it happen that's just a guess and if that is what happened that's really cool i wonder could we get the name could somebody out in the audience give us the name and would they get in trouble if the name i wonder if disney policy just in general like would that be this is like how onion writers don't get right it's just you just have to live you have to have the satisfaction of you know that you did because i would love to know but is it yeah is it like a myth where like the audience is just so into it and then backstage they're like did you it's like in wrestling, where an audience will hone in

on a specific wrestler backstage. The mood of the crowd sometimes, if the crowd is certainly in a certain mood, they could just buoy somebody on a night. I do think, I know that wrestling stuff too. You pick out one guy like, oh, we all love Zack Ryder tonight,

or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Sure. We love him every night on this podcast. Yes, hey love him yeah but um but the i do think for clara belcal there was a feeling of like she never gets a spotlight she is kind of like the odd duck of the group yeah you know she's got her she is her character is like you look at her giant shoes like she is supposed to be awkward like goofy too and she's she is kind of like like from uh archie comics they have a similar thing with ethel yes girl uh normally coupled with junkhead that she's supposed to be like the awkward girl with big teeth and everything and like she was supposed to be like this is the

ugly girl like in in quotes that's the and so when you have that kind of history then the gay fans uh are like oh no we love you like you know nobody loves you enough we love you like there's that that feels like a very like traditional like just gay tradition of you know lifting someone up yeah uplifting the the misfit of the group who even though claire bell is nominally a straight woman as far as like if we're if we're guessing at the sexuality of the disney characters a heterosexual cow with a relationship with a heterosexual horse yes as far as it had been taken mini this is eight years ago thanksgiving there's the newer horace horse collar scary uh yeah he is

and i would say that claribel is a little bit like kind of uh it's not the best photo of her either weird oh yeah i feel like they've like friendlied her up yeah i feel like in animation sometimes people hone in on it because each each of them have interesting character designs yeah and that can be enough to buoy something i was saying as we're guessing about other characters minnie is bi and she should not be bringing her straight boyfriend mickey okay this is a discourse going around mickey should stay home yeah you should not go to chapel rowan shows you should not go to disney after disneyland after dark pride night you don't

want david we don't want mickey there at all one mickey no back of the line this is what nine 19 year olds are mad about on twitter this is you get every other night mickey i own the place okay you i'm not i'm not allowed in my own living room no it's well that's you know the no kink at pride stuff that's why horace isn't there his horse collar is seen oh he's got the collar is i never knew the collar was kink he won't take the collar off yeah he refuses yeah i mean he shouldn't i agree and the last cool claire bell thing though we didn't get to see her waving good night with the rest of the group and getting her flowers but based on the timing it must have been right afterwards they walk her

through there's the final people at 1am we're there at like 1255 1am they're clearing out and there's the DJ on Rivers of America right in front of the entrance to Pirates and he's playing his last songs and when he starts up a dance club remix

of When You Wish Upon A starts up a dance club remix of wish when you wish upon a star like this dancy remix then claribel comes in and like actually i've got to show you guys this picture for show pictures here uh we my husband sees claribel walking towards here to get to do her dancing and so we stop her for just a second and And like, that's me with Clarabelle. You got a moment. That's great. Excitement on my face. That's the most excited I was all night. Oh my God,

Clarabelle. And then, and then she danced to the full remix of when you wish upon a star, just like a, and, and the brilliant person who ever was working there, they're in charge of this at the DJ booth. They had a spotlight.

They shined a spotlight on her as we're encircling her and then a spotlight on her halfway through the song and she's dancing to the song and it's just amazing she does the full dance routine and then heads off for the night so that was like our last big moment it was uh it was so great that is like a magical moment really it really was this is one of the cooler i would i would say the last few years have been fraught with uh not fraught i feel fine about it but we've there's been a lot of disney parks complaints from us oh sure the show for the last this i'm hearing all this i'm like this is some of the coolest disney park stuff in a minute because it does it does feel so like populist

and so like a new a generation like taking over the mythology and like doing something new with it it felt like natural i feel if they it's a gonna be a hard line with disney i think for how much they embrace it or not because if it gets too corporate then it it maybe this is also my wrestling sensibility of like oh wait this is what man this is what the booker wants now i don't know anymore like You start turning on it if it starts to feel unnatural and not organic from the fans. But I would love Clarabelle to get, like, she's the gay icon of the main characters of the Disney family.

Instead of just being like, we need a third girl in this picture. We've got Daisy and Minnie. But a third character. Who else is girl? Yeah. Do we have another one? Is there a girl? I don't remember. Does girl exist?

More? Does more girl exist? It's like how in Looney Tunes stuff, you only see Petunia Pig when they need like some. They're like, we have that one other girl, right? What do we got here? We're going to flush out the ranks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me bring up another,

I mean, I think this occurred last year, but it seemed more prominent this year, and this is something that you mentioned, Mike. I feel like in terms of virality this time around, Stitch, there's been some Stitch stuff. So excited about this clip I saw. Stitch has a leather costume, which I feel like I've seen in other media he wears it

somewhere yes yeah it's not completely invented for this but it lines up nicely doesn't it does line up nicely specifically i think it's the hat and jacket that marlon brando wears in the movie the wild one right yes yeah that's right which is if you don't just for the list it's kind of the precursor to the bike riders just to put it in current in current pop culture it wouldn't have been bike riders without uh well i can't believe that's the name of that movie i like that branding wise i thought it was about a bunch of teens who rode bikes around their neighborhood and then i found that it's a greaser movie i did right before i came here saw a clip of the promotional tour and they had a bunch of motorcycles on an all-white

soundstage and i think they gave the cast disposable cameras and they were just kind of in slow motion goofing around the motorcycles and i was like i don't think this is the tone of this movie i'm confused that's a lot of that's a great viral stunt but you know just like the outsiders every generation needs their like they homoerotic ish bike like 50s biker movie sure yeah and the outsiders i believe just won the tony the musical version i forgot by angelina jolie i think what wow i had that really well you say that and a bunch of bike guys are like what i'm ironic what what do you mean i never that never occurred to me but now if i had to say if it wasn't for claribel stitch would be number one of the night for us and like oh so you had a you had a stitch encounter then oh so you said

yeah uh my husband loves stitch loves stitch so much like he is a gay icon to us too like i think his his gay popularity has felt like a long time uh for him because i i think it's a mix of things one the hawaii setting like is like hawaii hawaii was one of the first american u.s states to legalize gay marriage marriage equality i should say uh so there's that stitch is he's a weird little monster with his own like found family kind of thing so like i think that is also attractive and on top of that one of the, Dean Dubois, is an openly gay man of the Lilo and Stitch movie. So you have all that in the mix. I think that makes Stitch have a lot of gay fans, I think.

Wow. So Stitch, at the last year and this year, it's listed on the events here as the Ohana Family Dance Party. And it's a great setup they have this dj there who is really having a good time he's keeping the energy up the whole time like the the dance performers uh or sorry the the costume performers they cycle in and out like for about 30 minutes each or so he was doing it the whole night from 9 30 to 1 the whole time stitch was uh no no the uh the dj sorry sorry with stitch they there's a new well i'm sure it was the same stitch every time but uh but no they there was time for a new stitch performer to cycle out every like 20 30 minutes but the dj was spinning tracks and

dancing around the whole time and getting the energy up and dj tetris dj was that is that right i should have checked the undercover tourist.com specifically it names dj tetris now that could have been last year it could have been a different there's the one dj i know at disney is dj wendy walker who does a lot of the different things and we've seen her a million times at different different like she's dj'd everywhere and only after hours around we ever went to was that like 80s night and she was there too so i wonder if she was doing something i'm sure she was i just don't know where dj tetris is i that sounds right he was he was great it was at the tomorrowland terrace so uh right by the uh galactic grill which is where i had like uh colorful churros i will say they gotta get their food stuff figured out next year because this happened last

year it happened this year not that they ran out of all themed food but they had three things that were literally like a rainbow they had rainbow trifle uh at jolly holiday i want to say they had uh they had a rainbow just slice cake uh at another one and they had uh oh and they had like a rainbow churro thing they all sold out immediately like you could if you didn't mobile order it

at 9 o'clock on the dot you were not eating any of this wow oh jeez yeah that sucks I saw they had

switched the gray stuff to the rainbow stuff the rainbow stuff gone immediately I want the rainbow stuff that sold out really quickly even from what I was reading

that gray stuff is kind of good too so i bet rainbow which i don't get why how do they not get this is the second year and the second night of the second year and the tickets for the event sold out immediately like we were lucky we have an annual pass friend who bought our tickets on the early annual pass window right uh and when it sells out that fast how do you not make enough great uh rainbow stuff to at least last till 10 like how do you not make it yeah you think so it's literally called stuff

like you're making it in vaps it's uh but but yeah the ohana dance party was really great uh because i think too they there is a general sense for disney I think, when they're like, well, if we don't have a gay or queer character, if the story is, we're one family, everybody's a family, if that's the message, that's gay enough, so that makes Ohana. We round that up to gay. And so he started in his Elvis costume, dancing to songs, even some current stuff, and also Britney, he danced to toxic and then and then this this is me guessing at why they programmed it but then angel comes out angel the stitch's girlfriend and that to me didn't feel like that disney was trying to say stitch is not

gay here's his girlfriend angel right here and they and they do a little bit characters are allies throwing stuff at angel so and then angel dances some and it's fun and she's you know a big pink character that's fun to see on gay night and so starts in elvis angel comes in and then after angel dances then back comes out stitch and that is when he's in his biker outfit which we called stitch of finland but but yes i i definitely think that the planners looked at here's all our stitch costumes these are approved to walk around the park it's already been signed off on so we don't have to get new permission and there just happens to be one who looks like a gay 50s biker so let's have him come out and dance to stuff and yeah it but this was the darkest point for me at the night though because i missed i came back i

my husband stayed at the ohana dance party for like two hours that was his main thing he wanted to see you want to see every dance but he told me oh if you want to see something you can go and i'll tell you what i saw in a sec but before before I did that, when I left, I didn't come back. And he tells me, he's texting me like, if you can get back here right now, get right now. I get like five minutes after that. And he's like, oh, you missed him dancing to Eye to Eye from. Oh, that burned.

That burns his eye to eye. But when I got there, he it was the gayest moment of it i would say because it was uh stitch of finland dancing to i will survive okay yeah yeah i was like okay this only has gay connotations here like the clip that went viral was him dancing to rush by troy savant yes yeah. My husband got a footage of that too, the dance, which I learned that Troye, did you know that Troye Sivan was a child actor?

Did you know this? Didn't I send this to you, that he was Little Wolverine? He's Little Wolverine. Oh, yeah. In Wolverine Origins. No idea. He's like, it's my origins, Wolverine.

Oh, that's fascinating. He's, he's the, I, since he's so successful, I don't feel bad making fun of a child actor now, but like his, I felt so bad for him re-watching the scene of like when claws pop out and he has to look up to the camera and go, No! It's really funny.

It's so bad. I have a little bit of a proposition. You know, we haven't brought this up yet, all this Stitch talk. But we are graced, as always, by one of the great Stitch impersonators, Mr. Jason Sheridan. Is Stitch in the room with us right now? Can we speak to Stitch? I've just messaged you the lyrics to Troye Sivan's Rush. Do you think you might be able to grace us?

I'm so sorry. I am not familiar with the song. Oh, I don't know the melody yet. No, I think this is a spoken word piece. I know the melody because I listen, but Jason, just spoken word I think is the best way to do it. Because last time you just said you'd heard of Troye Sivan, so you've gone further.

I like the album a lot. Okay, well, there you go. Mike? How about it? Pretty hip. I didn't say. I'm just saying I saw it. No, let me say it, Mike.

It's very hip. If somebody else can say it about me. Jason, I think any part of it. Do you want verses or chorus? I think anything that strikes your eye. I'll just do chorus. So that seems to repeat. Yeah.

I feel the rush. Addicted to your touch. Oh, I feel the rush. It's so good. It's so good. I feel the rush. Addicted to your touch. Oh, I feel the rush. It's so good. It's so good. I feel the rush. Addicted to your touch.

Ohana means family. Wait, how did that get in there? That was great. Can I maybe ask, just because it's jumping out at me, verse two. Oh, sure. Here we go. Pass your boy the heat wave. Recreate the sun. Take me to your feeling boy, you know the one.

Kiss it when you're done, man. This shit is so much fun. Pocket rocket gun. Yay. Yay. Well, now I'm intrigued by the song. When I first heard that song, I thought the line was, I feel the rush addicted to your tush, which is a better rhyme with rush.

Yeah. But it was not the line. It's touch. Well, you know, he's not American. Wait, it's not better? Rush, tush? It's worse. No, I think it's better.

It's spelled the same, but it's just a little different. You think it's a better line, though, than touch? It might be a better line. I'm just saying Rush Touch is a better rhyme than Rush Tush. It fits better for me, and I think it's a better line. For the music video. I think it should be punch down. And by the way, there's no more hip way to say butt than Tush.

Well, I thought it was funny that he was saying Tush. Wow, 2024, we're bringing Tush back. That's right, which we should do on this show let's you know what i look i'm i'm the first one to say i'm done with seats seats over let's call it tush is back tush is the new seat fine uh but the the thing that made me miss eye to eye though was that the one list on characters i wanted to see was in galaxy's edge uh c-3po was going to be there and i was like well this is the closest to like a gay thing for star wars and i wish it was he was at star tours but it was at galaxy's edge and so and it was empty galaxy's edge because nothing was running like they weren't

running uh most of the rides were closed down only like uh the big oldies were like space mountain star tours but the new stuff not running rise was not running not not right falcon running oh okay so ogres you could walk in what ogres was walking and you probably could have gotten just a seat at any time how empty galaxy's edge completely empty except for the few people who were there to get pictures were like um the mandalorian and grogu were also walking around and this is when i learned i don't know if you guys have ever been told this in galaxy's edge with trying to meet a a character there but when c-3bo came out we were looking at the cast member of like so where's the line because that's how everything was the line this night and the cast

member said there's no lines in galaxy's edge so just you know and you can get in there and i was like there's no lines at galaxy's edge for character meets so it was just you just kind of had to like shove past like i feel like it's my turn this person got their time with 3po so i'll get my picture with them like so but yeah it was just it was a free-for-all there's just kind of a happening there yeah that happens when chewbacca comes out and you just turn around and Chewbacca's right there. Also, it's irritating to me that that suit is just sitting backstage at Disneyland and he doesn't come out during the regular day ever. They have it. It's just sitting right back there.

Bring them out. It's a perfect 3PO costume. Yeah, it looks great. Which you'd want to see. That's cool. Because then it's really reflecting everything around you. Yeah. They also really should dye the Chewy suit rainbow colors. Yeah.

Oh, I love Chewy. There was that Christmas toy they made of a Wookiee, I think, that was like Christmas colors. Oh, really? I think so. Well, there was a Life Day robe Christmas ornament. Yeah. I think there was actually a dyed...

Oh, a dyed Wookiee. I may have misremembered. Okay. But, of course, they can't have too much fun at Galaxy's Edge. Can't have too much fun. christmas ornament yeah i'm sure i think there was actually a dyed for me i just remember okay but but of course they can't have too much fun at galaxy's edge so it's just it's not about fun i do have a list of the characters and when you look at galaxy's edge it is funny because it's like mandalorian grogu uh ahsoka okay yeah they have television show c-3po yeah yeah okay that's the closest to recognizing like this is the game though my my friends i was with are like well then it should be r2 with him like

it should be the gay couple like oh yeah but no it's just 3po by himself and uh yeah i was and but i i was very happy to see 3po there and he was by the garage where the land speeder is and everything. So also, he's like behind the gate, too. And of course, he only says canned phrases. Like the guy ahead of me did say a funny thing like, well, it looks like you just had an oil bath, 3PO. You're looking great. And he's like, yes, thank you, I think is the canned reply.

That can apply to anything. Do you think he ever had eyes for BB-8? In the time when R2-D2 was under the sheet for most of the movie. R2 was sick for most of the movie. He was too sad to run. Do you think C-3PO

ever was like... That's right. C-3PO can't wait. He'll never know. He can't wait a decade for R2-D2 to wake up. He's got a life to live. wait a decade for R2-D2 to wake up. He's got a life to live. Frankly, I don't know when this is going to happen. The second he's back, I'm back with him. Another situation, Chip.

Maybe that's why 3PO got his red arm. He was trying to dress up. Oh, yeah. Very good point. I had a question about specific characters. Oh, sure. Did you meet... This is one of the most specific characters i've ever seen brought out in the parks but it has storyline it makes sense ethan clad from strange world

yeah okay i let's let's talk about ethan yeah no it's okay so strange world is a movie i haven't seen either i don't think many people have uh but he is they made a point they yeah they made it very tough to see or to know it existed to see pretty well reviewed from what i read about it visually looks very nice but but ethan is officially one of the there's there's a joke that there's always the first gay disney character they've promoted that like a dozen times yeah it's like but but he is canonically a gay man in the movies like it is not he this is, I believe it is a step higher than two women hugged each other in the background of Rise of Skywalker.

That's the first gay Star Wars character. It's like, yeah. It's, so he's there. Also, this was in Tomorrowland. This is where they put all the canonically gay adult characters, or not princessy characters. They were in Tomorrowland. He was there, as was Fastos. Everybody knows Fastos, right?

Fastos! From The Eternal. He was Brian Tyree Henry's character, and he was also the first major gay Marvel hero. He has a husband in the movie, they kiss on screen, which you don't see in many Marvel movies.

It was a very intentional move in that movie because they're like, this always gets cut out of Marvel movies or they're always scared of having a gay thing for international. They always hide behind like, well, international audiences are a little scared. So, but Fastos is gay in it.

And so, but also Fastos takes responsibility for like the bombing of Hiroshima in the movie, which is kind of a downer with the first gay Marvel character. Yeah. So there's pluses and minuses to Festos. There's good things and bad things. Very confused, because like, oh, Brian Tyree, Henry, Brian Tyree, am I getting that name

right? I think that's it, right? Yeah, I think so. Is a very good actor. Yeah, he's great um uh jubuki young white who is the voice of ethan clad very funny guy uh but yeah there's there's some of these characters these movies you're like wait when did yeah that did come out and and the third of the canonically queer characters there for the photo op in tomorrowland was america chavez from uh i do remember america

java yes multiverse of madness america chavez is a canonically gay character a queer character in the marvel comics right they put her in the movie and the extent of her queerness in that movie is if you look really closely she has on a rainbow pin on her jacket and uh she also does have two moms in the movie just like in the comics but you see your two moms for five seconds and then they die on screen in the movie that's that's the thing yes yeah this is what i've been saying disney what disney has done in the last uh five ten years is they've they've pioneered the subliminal gay kiss yes the gay kiss that is where the shot is faster than the speed of sound and you need to load the characters with some of the most upsetting trauma imaginable responsible for roshma your mom's definitely died we show

them dying on camera more than your pin on camera these two women are part of a montage showing how light year was foolish with time how he let his whole life pass him by i think there were two women in there so i don't think about it we're moving on forget it it's in the past yeah no that but okay but ethan he is this interesting thing of like well as far as characters are going to have there they either have to be canonically queer, or it's Mickey and Pals wearing rainbows, or it's Evil Queens. Those are the three. They had the villainesses there. They had the Queen of Hearts, the Evil Queen from Snow White, Maleficent.

Of course, Maleficent. You can see her having a big gay fandom. But the Queen of Hearts, she was great. This was another of our silly photo ops they you know the the stationary teacup outside of the teacups ride uh they had uh for for photo ops they put a little sign above it that says like hashtag spill the tea and so we're like well we gotta get a picture in this stupid thing and then once again disney with the phraseology of 2018 but then but then when we sat in it then we heard somebody like shouting and we're like we gotta get a picture in this stupid thing and then once again disney with the phraseology of

2018 but then but then when we sat in it then we heard somebody like shouting and we're like whoa what's going on but it was the queen of hearts screaming like get out of my way i need to get to wonderland like that's cool she that uh she was a face character that night she was really oh that's interesting so yeah wait so the evil queens were having a good time though yeah the the official gay characters of tomorrowland like ethan and fastos they were just very much like yeah you know i'm just here and i and let me name my male partner character from the movie and so you know that i'm i'm gay and hey isn't this nice get a picture with me like yeah it was just a casual chat with fastos but though another queer friend of mine pointed out like you know of where was mulan in this if we're gonna have like you know they're gonna play

reflection or where's where's loki who is a gender fluid character in a magical sense like where's where's loki who's i don't know about mcu loki how queer he was i didn't watch season two but i feel like he is written to not not to be straight but i mean he's he has that like magical god thing like of all gods are queer anyway i don't think a heterosexual god seems weird to me of like all the greek gods fucked each other right yeah i think so but yeah where was loki where was where why wasn't mulan or represented there or or the big one i was like wait shouldn't timoon and pumbaa be here like come on like or at least to moon like but that that felt like the line for disney that they're like well we don't want like a mulan a princess here

to represent it though though i will take you know i'll step that back a little bit because they did have a frozen section they did have uh elsa olaf uh kristin uh bell's character uh anna anna elsa anna olaf and then the another blink and you miss it this guy technically is gay character the owner of the uh the the bathhouse or steam room the i'm saying the bathhouse and frozen no it's the remember in the middle of frozen where they they stop over and the guy's like he's selling stuff they're like a rest stop yeah yeah that guy yes yeah he's he's there and into the background of that shot it's him with's him with what seems to be his husband in a photograph. So technically a gay character. Okay. So he was there for photo ops too.

You're like parsing the logic all night of who's there and why. And you're like somewhat satisfied, but like could be more. I mean, maybe this is the progress that's made over the you know we're only in year two of this but maybe by year 10 and beyond we're just we're kind of fully identifying a lot more characters yeah i uh no there was i also on there was another one i i wrote down like oh this is where they felt like they were really stretching their disney history of like i noticed this anytime i watch those documentaries on the history of disney on the the official one on disney plus which usually have been taken down

for tax purposes you can't even watch them now but they always have to even when it's a marvel thing that walt disney had not one thing to do with they have to show a clip of like and walt disney also sort of felt this way about things like like or in the star i remember on the star tours one they did they have to start with george lucas actually was there the first week of disneyland's opening as a kid he went there i was like so this is how it connects to walt disney and so at the start of the big fireworks at 9 30 over the um over the castle they play a clip of walt and i'm like what possible clip of walt could see it sounded all inclusive to gay people and it was to all that come to this happy place welcome and so they

play that clip i was like i guess that could sound that's inclusive sure but it's like i've i'm not even saying i think walt disney was like an especially homophobic person but as a man of his age then i would have to be i don't think he weighed in yeah but literally he would just like i'm sure he's no more homophobic than the average man american man back in the 50s which would be extremely homophobic yeah no your base no long hair fellas no suspicious facial hair yeah exactly yeah but so when they played that clip i was like oh they had to check the box of like show have some way to portray that this is connected to the long lineage from opening day when walt was here i guess if you if you think of that speech as the constitution of Disneyland,

and if we're going to be literalists about, like, it is all who come. Disneyland is your land, and there's no... I kind of like using that as a wedge to say, well, look, look what he said. Let's interpret that as we have to be accepting to everybody. It's the Bible. You're reinterpreting it every few hundred years said now we reinterpret it and other people are like well think of me but he was giving that speech to a group of as far as we know all heterosexual men so he only meant it's only

it's your land so that only applies to them there i found my way to justify there's traditional with walt and then there are the progressives with waltz who reinterpret his language well that's what i was hoping was because there were so many i i think the user uh i watched a video patrick dougal there was so many remixes and stuff being played i thought they were gonna read when i started to hear that clip i'm like oh that's gonna be great they're gonna they're gonna scratch over welcome they're gonna remix like well well well but they would never do that they it's so on such a high pedestal but it would be very funny to start remixing like the beat drops during a walk quote if the dj had done that during the ohana dance party that he shut it down they'd have cut the cut the lights like no that's too far i think the crowd but that's the thing where it's like

the crowd would have lost yes yeah if we're looking i just was like what are other walt disney quotes is there anything else we can interpret and i think i found one right here this is the one i just don't know if you ever said it on tape i love mickey mouse more than any woman i have ever known if you need something that's pretty good yeah that's perfect that's perfect yes oh they should ai recreate it and play it loudly in the park they'll never stop using ai waltz if they start oh yeah i did have one other bit of food i wanted to mention too i was going on my notes like other stuff i did it was the uh uh what the kids today would call the

rainbow glizzy uh but it was the a loaded corn dog was uh so the little red wagon was selling it was selling regular corn dogs too but uh it was the rainbow corn dog which uh let me find that here just relish and ketchup and oh it's not it's like sriracha and oh okay and some peppers on it too so yeah they had that too yeah okay and also i had the rocky road funnel cake at uh at hungry bear which was good and they uh which was just like a scoop of rocky road ice cream on top of the funnel cake though the yeah the pride rainbow funnel cake unfortunately sold out which is too bad that sucks all the rainbows went immediately like and i also i am normally not the type to buy the 27 cup to put things in but my husband's like we gotta get the pride cup so i even mobile ordered it and then when i got the

hungry bear they're like i'm sorry we're out of the pride cup we sold them all out you gotta like but they at least gave me a refund but they're shooting themselves in the foot this is strange you by any chance uh stumble into the golden horseshoe with the line dancing uh no i did not see the line dancing unfortunately i i missed out on that there was too many uh there's too i also much stuff to do i missed out on the um there were singers for about a 20 minute singer thing in front of uh the small world where they're singing a lot of like disney hits including like reflection in front of it too another another one they counted as like a uh gay song was the uh one two worlds one family

from tarzan that's like yeah that was among the too. I saw a photo op that was, yeah, that's folding in Tarzan. And you could stand under a scroll that's a Tarzan quote, which is, I won't pretend to be something I'm not. Yes. It's kind of a strange Tarzan. Which is, of course, about being like a man surrounded by apes. Yes, same thing. Being an ape man is kind of the journey.

Queer people have gone through all the time they've been raised by apes and it's very strange you finally actuals are often brutish yeah uh yeah no i mean i guess tarzan as well it is a story of like oh my adoptive father doesn't love me kind of thing like i guess you could like see that and his mother loves him and his dad's mean like sure fine but uh yeah it's close yeah it's uh oh and the yeah but this is me song using that world's greatest showman song it did i grumble about it being a fox song uh though i did see other parks people say this is a big moment because they're playing a fox song at disney oh right like on the main street and apparently that was like a first oh two two when they did it last year they did it

again this year but last year was what apparently was the first playing of a fox song it's hard to conjure what other fox songs are what else is now in their arsenal? There's not like a Predator song. Oh, Sound of Music. Any Sound of Music song. Disney owns it. Don't Ray Me? I feel like they aren't really making it. Could we have Sound of Music in Disneyland Forward,

Sound of Music Land? Oh, yeah. You could be in the hill. You can track this vehicle, go up the hill with her. She said, and your vehicle spins. Yeah, that's cool. That's not bad, actually. That is good.

We talked when we did the Simpsons with all you guys here in person, and there was a Planet of the Apes reference in it. And with the music, that's when it hit us like, oh, wait, Disney owns that now. That's a Fox song. And they could play that. They could do an apes ride at California Adventure. I wouldn't think they do the apes ride at California Adventure. I wouldn't think they'd do the apes ride at Disneyland. There's an apes ride at the Fox Studios Malaysia Park

with the weird that still has the Fox license, which was left in this weird limbo of can we still do it? But they have a full, it's like somewhere between, I forget if it's trackless or not, but it's like Rise of the Resistance-esque, it's Transformers-esque, and it's transformers-esque and it's all about caesar it's kind of like the second movie that exists in malaysia and nobody acknowledges it yeah yeah those apes will never age they're cgi apes you're not gonna look at the like you know when you go

on a ride now and you're like well that's not what dominic toretto looks like now or whatever now i mean uh you know caesar is timeless daniel redcliffe is a little boy forever in yeah we're all every day watching a particular age of this very famous very strange that is true yeah but uh yeah no the the rainbow uh i mean i love the corn dog in general though they it seemed like last year their churro choices were better like they they had like a sour cherry one last year this year was just i think it was like cake batter uh no it was cereal milk cereal milk uh frosting with it which and pineapple sprinkles which it was fine but i i kind of wish they had the sour cherry one i think they have also they had popcorn with lucky charms in it yes yeah which i i didn't get that because

i watched that saint patrick mcdougall video you mentioned, Jason. Yeah. He pointed out the like, yeah, all of the Lucky Charm or Rainbow Cereal bits. He said they all just go straight to the bottom instantly. Like they just all fall. Well, yeah. I didn't feel like that would work. Just weight wise. Not very even distribution. Yeah.

They need to work on that for next year i will say this food is more interesting and fun that a lot of the disney food it does sound like the operation side of it needs some fine tuning yeah i i did want to try i but i was like i don't want to overload myself but like the oh i had the i did have the watermelon mickey beignets but that's because we love the uh mickey beignets oh sure we went to the we went to the mint julep uh area and got that it was one of the last things they were closing down and that uh though also you talk about disney things breaking down we had bad luck that night on things breaking down like we on mickey runnery where i had no no problem and my husband and i split off from the group

the the rest of the group were like oh let's all do space mountain together but space mountain was like an hour long thing and we might miss the cavalcade so we're like no let's not do space mountain then our friends who did it were like they made us switch cars the car wasn't working so we had to get in a separate car we We went on Star Tours together. I have never had Star Tours break on me before. It broke. It did the first light speed jump. It wrenched us forward harder than usual. Oh, no.

Then the screen went up and they turned down. They took us all off the thing and put us in another one. I've never had that. That's good. They just reloaded you immediately. You essentially got the real life Millennium Falcon experience. Yeah. And my back hurt.

Well, I assume Han Solo's back must always hurt. Now you know what it was like to be him. And also, though, the worst for our pals were, we went on Big Thunder because I was like, oh, we got to do Big Thunder at midnight. I want to see nighttime. big thunder but our other friends went on pirates and they were stuck on pirates till after close like they had to be escorted off pirates in a walk not move again like we we were waiting that's how we got the clarabelle video because we were waiting outside pirates to meet up with them we're like well surely it's going to start now and then it hits one and they're like

everybody clear out and they're still stuck on pirates you know where they got stuck and had to walk off from uh i think it was i do think it was the big group uh area the you know the auction how area it's like the number prime spot that's where i want to walk off i think i think i we got stuck there for like 10 minutes once under the box that's almost about to drop on you we were under that box at the end toward the end but yeah they they got they got escorted off of it so they missed they missed the clear the transcendent clarabelle moment they missed it but but then again i got to be jealous of them because at some point their group they met harvey guillen from uh the what we do in the shadows oh he's so great on that so he's great he's he's a queer performer and his his character is the greatest i love him i have a celeb crush on on him and when

when i saw photos later that he's like yep i was he was there on the night with us i saw that and then friends later said like yeah we actually bet him and we got to take pictures when it's like oh i missed that so if the cost of being stuck i don't know if i'd make the trade of like i couldn't see the clarabelle dance and a couple other things but i could have met harvey if i'm being stuck on them uh pirates ride i I don't know. I might have made that trade. He was Disney bounding even, I think, based on his outfit. It was like a Donald-ish outfit. He was white shirt, blue side cap kind of thing.

Very knee-high socks to represent Donald. He's got it all on his social media, you can see. It's an accidental meet and greet. Yeah, I think that was the only celeb I knew of who was at it that night. got it all on the social media you can see wow wow it's an accidental meet and greet yeah i i think that was the only celeb i knew of who was at it that night but uh yeah that i was very jealous of my friends who got to meet him but gavin newsom was there last year oh okay yes he tweeted about it last year he went really yeah interesting i don't know if he was there this year and i didn't i got to see i wanted to get the andor part of the new Star Tours, but it was the Ahsoka one, which I only had to guess out of like, oh yeah, I heard that.

I didn't see Ahsoka. I watched Andor. I didn't watch Ahsoka. But I know there's like space whales in it. And so the space whales are very central to that new section of Star Tours. Yeah, so they've got to investigate the space whales further. They apparently show up in a lot. Yeah, it's all connected connected that rebel show and stuff it's such pure feloni

things that i'm like it i as a as a star wars fan of a certain vintage to be told that clone wars and the related things matter like in the cartoons matter that i totally ignored i was like i'm not i don't like this i i didn't i confusion is too much to take in i have been told these didn't matter now you tell me i have to know all these characters From the Clone Wars show It's confusing to me Imagine my feeling where my entire canon is Star Tours The rest of it

Like wait so I gotta know about who these other Who Han Solo is I'm exhausted I'm out I'm just saying Rise of Skywalker It seemed like they were looking for something. And if you had just put some space whales in there, it might have gone a little more smoother. It would have fixed it.

Yeah, sure. Well, I mean, sounds like a great evening. Sounds like a particularly fun, just like, I don't know, like a pretty juiced up, good desserts, good performers. Just kind of like a bestney has to offer sort of thing besides all the rides being open or working yeah the the cast members were the vibes are great i would yeah if you've not done it was my first time doing any of the uh dark disneyland dark events and i'd say it was a lot of fun it was i mean it was like i believe it was 160 a ticket and it's good 6 p.m is when you can start mixing

in so you get 6 p.m to 1 a.m and most of the stuff's running and and you're there you're not doing this to ride rise of the resistance anyway you're not coming there for for doing that so you're not gonna miss that but yeah the food i just and and even the uh just the people at the churro carts were like so excited they had had glow sticks and were dancing to all the songs at the churro cart in Fantasyland. Oh, sorry. One other character I meant to mention was the, again, this is for people younger than me, Tinkerbell and her many pixie pals from those directed videos. Pixie Hollow.

Yeah, the characters. All the Pixie Hollow characters were out, and they were being sassy. They were also having some fun. Okay. Within reason of their characters. I don't think they were breaking any character rules, but they were being a little extra sassy, which was fun. That's fun. But yeah, I would say it's, I bet it only grows from here, especially because I think the finger thing means the money. They made some bank on this night,

and I think Disney can see it's worth it to get those rainbow bucks more in the next year. The red shirt I bought is oversized for me because they were out of my size. I had to buy a size up. Oh, wow. Yeah. But you are decked.

You got several things. Yes, I'm wearing my white Pride Night 2024 hat, too. It's the official one and also the i have i have my uh fanny pack as well that's that's a new thing yeah they got you yeah for for my husband and i we really are into fanny packs are now walk around thing for the parks like we just like having it side on the shoulder it's it's our favorite thing though he my husband wore a uh stitch backpack that uh from disney tokyo disney which is it's stitch upside down so it's like he's like showing his butt to you as the thing it's like he's that little rascal stitch like his excuse me his tush his tush oh i'm sorry he's showing his tush to you it's 2024 it's tush and that's and and that

was great while dancing the stitch performer loves seeing anybody wearing a stitch merchandise oh yeah would pose extra and be like do the heart signal and point at you like it yeah that's my tush look look up all the videos of the dancing at least and you can see how much fun the performers are having and there's i my gaydar was going off on all these performers who are like oh you've got to be you got to be some part of the rainbow having a great time. Finally getting to not have to tamp down yourself for the family daytime performers. Not yet. Not give just 40%, which just reads like regular good dancing.

Yeah. You can actually take it all the way up. You can't serve as hard on a regular Disney day. They were serving C-word that night. Claire Bell was definitely serving C-word. C-word is cow. I'm glad someone else said it. I hid it in my notes.

I was like, I don't know if I should be. He said it on the way over in the car. He said the workshop. No, well, he just was saying, he said the phrase. I was also enraptured. And he hasn't said it, so I just was saying he said the phrase i was also i know what it means but i was just trying to prompt jason really cow or it means claribel yeah she was serving jason should say the word on the show it's uh i that is another of those like i'm starting to feel old things of seeing like tiktoks that just use the c word all the

time in them that content is like wow we just say this now we just say it like that's okay like this was almost the biggest no-no yeah yeah and that would seem fun yeah it does yeah jason's in the car just yelling it the window down and he started screaming at people and I said Jason stop I'm not doing it right stop and then he got out of the car he started throwing things to people hey let me do a round of it really quick

and he got a bullhorn he put the big bullhorn from the Dukes of Hazzard on the top of my car and he started shouting he brought a horn and attached his own microphone to it

yeah alright well it's all the new words of 2024 they're all they're in play for all of us uh um but geez what a blast this is a very fun thing to thank you for for doing this and bringing us a trip report uh it made me feel like i was there maybe we should maybe we got to do one of these in the future it sounds really fun uh but hey henry gilbert you survived podcast the ride

thank you for joining us and making time in a trip that had that and a bunch of other park stuff and podcast stuff let's exit through the gift shop is there anything you'd like to plug oh well of course yeah thanks for having me and yeah we i love i i always love being on podcast ride and you guys are the best and uh and yeah i i co-host the podcast Talking Simpsons with Bob Mackie, where we talk about The Simpsons in chronological order. And we are in season four slash 14 right now. We kind of bounce between the two just to be classic and keep going forward, though, too. But, yeah, we just, I guess the most recent guest appearance of one of you guys with Scott was on our one about the Epcot, where they visited. Right, yeah.

The fake Epcot. Teacher of the Year, Little Richard. You got a lot going on on that one. Yeah, the show really hates Epcot, at least back then. They don't hate Epcot now. They love it and think everybody should go there all the time. But go to Disney Plus and you can find all of these scathing epcot jokes these jokes about epcot being boring but in this simpsons almost is like all the for and then all

of that you know that it's there's that one joke especially in itchy and scratchy land about like uh would nazi supermen or yes or something that that was their equivalent of walt disney made that uh and i they almost the Simpsons maybe takes credit for the only subversiveness anywhere on Disney Plus. Yeah. It's pretty, it's kind of amazing. It's impressive, yeah. And so we go,

and if you want to know all the history of every joke and every change line and all these things, where our job too, I think, is to explain, you know, when there's a Crystal Pepsi joke in there and people are very confused by what Crystal Pepsi is, we will explain it. Yeah, we do that every week. And we are sponsored at Patreon.com slash Talking Simpsons, where we have a ton of bonus stuff. That's also where we do the What a Cartoon podcast, or we also cover the Futurama and King of the Hill.

There's just as in depth and uh each month we do a super long podcast about an animated feature film we just did five hours and 40 minutes on mulan which uh led me to do a ton of research on the orlando animation studio that was also a ride or a an experience yeah yeah yes, Mulan was one of the ones when that was still up and running. It was their major, it was the first one done primarily in Orlando and it was fun.

I read stories of the animators saying like, God, this, it was like seven day a week production crunch in the last six months. Being there till 11 p.m., hearing people screaming on Tower of Terror as you're going home from animating all day so we haven't talked about that as much i feel like even though that is a fascinating thing and looms large in my head as a kid going and being like oh they're making a movie

in there like that was a deal for me my parents said like a tour guide a tour group passed and i like wait they like let me wait and join up with the next one. Because I was stuck. I need to keep looking at this. I was so enamored with that. Yeah, that's a big one we've missed. There's a great doc on YouTube now called Beyond the Glass, which is a 90-minute interview with tons of animators who work there.

They have a funny story in there about how if a tour group would go by and there was a particularly attractive woman in the group, one animator at one end of it would go, swing, and that would let other people know like a hot lady's coming through. And they'd all just say, swing through the, because they were working there. Wayne's World was relatively new.

And we finally had a sound to associate with a certain thing that our body could do. That's what Jason was saying when we were in the car, too. That, too? I kept trying to get through Clarabelle pictures. She's on the program. Oh, I love that. That's good mythology. I'm going to break up the new situation.

Goofy broke up Horace Scores' collar. I'm getting in there. My hall pass clear of a pound. Your hall pass is clear of a pound. My hall pass is a fictional

animated character just starting to pile up. Jason can serve C-word himself. Yeah. But anyway, yes, Talking Simpsons podcast

and patreon.com slash talking simpsons. And on most social media, I'm H-E-N-E-R-E-Y-G. So, yeah. Thanks. Cool. Thank you so much for having me, guys. Thank you. Thanks for doing it. Yeah, geez. What a blast. TalkingSimpsons9 and on most social media I'm H-E-N-E-R-E-Y-G so yeah thanks thank you so much for having me guys

thank you thanks for doing it yeah geez what a blast and yeah and all the episodes we've been on on TalkingSimpsons

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tier club three you will find all of that at patreon.com slash podcast the ride uh could could we ask stitch to change the lyrics the way i want tye Sivan's song Rush to sound. Could he say, I feel the rush addicted to your tush for me? Would he be so bold? Let me see if he's still here. Okay, please, yeah, check. Check to make sure. Yeah, could you just come?

Okay, sounds like he's here. Sounds like he is here. Could you just say? I feel the rush addicted to to your tush Okay Is what I want him to say I feel the rush Addicted to your tush It sounds better

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