Podcast: The Ride - Disneyland Railroad with Mark Rennie

Episode Date: May 3, 2019

Mark Rennie (Gay of Thrones, Fantasy Flix League podcast) joins us for The Grand Circle tour aboard the historic Disneyland Railroad! Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus Marvel Mania Rebooted and 1990 Happy Easter Parade Commentary up at The Second Gate: Patreon.com/podcasttheride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Forever Dog Warning the following podcast contains billowing steam hard steel rails a teetering bridge on the verge of collapse choo-choos and a look at the Disneyland Railroad with guest Mark Rennie All aboard! It's podcast the ride welcome to podcast the ride the theme park podcast where two of the three hosts have taken a special photo shoot on the Disneyland Railroad. I'm Mike Carlson. Joining me as always, my photo shoot buddy, Jason Sheridan. Yeah, that's me. Scott Gairdner is our other co-host. He has a really weird look on his face. Disgusted, I might say.

I don't know to what you refer. Tell me your special time well it was my birthday this is a true story it uh let's bring our guest actually real quick so we can make fun of us too our guest uh a co-host of the fantasy flicks league podcast and a writer for gay a thrones which is returning soon mark renny hello hi mark hi thanks for being here thank you for having thrilled to be here wonderful yeah thank you for for making time to talk about trains today love trains um yeah we all do i think love trains but so back to this story real quick it was jason's birthday and we went with our friend aaron to disneyland and i learned of a trick and i don't know if it's still

the way to get something like this done is you go up to a photographer that's not somebody with a tripod and you ask them are they inspired that's what it said on micechat.com which also sounds like a pickup of some kind or like a code cafe gratitude stuff i don't know yeah yeah i think i've heard you say are you inspired upwards of 30 times at this point and you're and it's always the same it's the pause and then so much wonder when you say it you say it's so are you inspired i think you i think you love this if you put a little zhuzh on it, then the photographers are more likely to go like, oh, right, I have to do this thing once a week. Not just a spit. Are you inspired?

Yeah. Hey, you inspired? Hey, dummy. I should do it then. Don't say it with an F word. Hey, hey, hey, you. You inspired? So what happens when you ask?

So what happens or happened, I've only done this like twice, is that if they are indeed someone who roams as a photographer in disneyland they will give you a little bit of a photo shoot somewhere maybe in a special place that they don't normally do this this happened to lindsey and i for the first time at california adventure i tried it out we were on like the main whatever you'd call it street is it sunset what is it wayna vista street wayista Street, there you go. Sure. And the person I said, are you inspired too? And she kind of honestly internalized a sigh. And I was like, all right, come over here.

And then proceeded to take photos of Lindsay and I like peeking around the corner of the shops. And it was honestly too much much she kept like we did like 10 different spots like your engagement photos yes it was we were caught way off guard i just thought it would be fun like oh we'll get to go up in a little spot on the like carthay circle or whatever not the case we did like 10 different spots all along the street and we by the end we were like what happened what just happened to us get up on this lamppost twirl around she had climate she didn't other than stuff that wouldn't be dangerous she was saying like commanding us to do stuff all right you over here hands on her

hips do that like and just kind of shouting stuff but she was nice but it was clear she was like all right here we're going to give you all the stuff you you want here you go uh so we honestly were like oh that was that was too much okay so what did we do when jason's birthday ran around or came around uh we were with our friend aaron lindsey was not there probably was still freaked out from the other experience um and i went up to a photographer by the way the disneyland railroad was shut down at this point because they were doing all the work for star wars land yeah so the trains were parked at the new orleans square station or at least one of them was so there were two photographers they were walking around and i went up to one of them i asked if they were inspired they gave me some like fake banter of like they weren't and then one of them kind of was just like all all right, I'll take this. God.

Wow. Put down her cigarette. So I, and I think I tried to stress, I go, if there's, you know, it's Jason's birthday. I go, if there's just like one fun spot or something, I go, it doesn't need to be long. It doesn't need to be a whole thing. And she's like, no, I got it. Don't worry. I'll take care of it.

She led us to the train that was parked over in the uh new orleans square station and we went inside and did a series of photos like our heads out the window in the passenger car in the locomotive like the three of us like stacked like peeking out of the locomotive like jason climbing the the ladder on the back of the train. Yeah. And then like snuck us into the back of like the Haunted Mansion. Yeah, like the little mausoleum crypt kind of area. By the mausoleum. Whoa. So we have so many pictures of this day.

Do you pay for these photos? No payment. So you get free photos. Yes. I mean, I have photo pass. So it would be free free but there's no because there's no way to exchange money with a photographer in disney i would feel the need to tip you're not allowed to you probably what's the disney general thing about i think i feel like

they wouldn't take a tip yeah well the guides take tips they do the guides and the table service waiters but yeah i don't know they told us that as a universal tram tour guide which i was they they explicitly told us not to accept them but one guy offered me a 20 once and another guy offered me a beer once what are you better believe i took both of those yeah what do you have a loose yeah like a single beer it was closed okay and it wasn't like uh you know yeah it wasn't like draft it wasn't a open container okay he just like had a bunch in his pockets and like hey here's and it was it was like there's like cold day too so like a warm pocket beer yeah and work now what's the doctor what you got in trouble for was leaning out of the tram when it was parked at the station and drinking it like above your head like steve austin does pouring the

beer like a foot above your head and then crushing it and crushing it yeah by before whipping it at a customer and yeah and yelling at the at everyone on the tram, you're mine now, bitches. Wow. One beer does that to you, huh? Yeah, I'm a lightweight. What can I say? Yeah, so we'll post some of these photos. But anyway, Jason and I had a special little photo shoot. Mark, have you had any fun shoots on a train? It doesn't have to be Disneyland.

Shots on a train? It wasn't a photo shoot, but the first thing that came to mind, my parents, we were well, I was like 16. My parents were like, we're going to the Grand Canyon for vacation.

Like, great. But we, you take it, we took a train, like a fun train and like it got, the train stopped and we got robbed.

Oh. Like with bandits showed up but my brother and I, we were like, I was like 15 and he was like 17, 18. And we're like,

this is lame. We were like not in the mood because like it was all children except for us and my parents so it didn't feel cool right the only age is that age range where that you think all the theme park stuff is lame and then you then you grow out of it yeah you know you get over yourself yeah so there is we were talking about how i've never seen like the grand canyon mount rushmore all these famous things but you're saying there is some sort of themed there was some sort of try i don't know where we got because we arrived at the grand canyon on this old timey train like it looked like something out of like the old west interesting so now i take that from i wonder i have no idea i was like i was i wasn't paying attention. I was busy being bitter. Yeah. Yeah.

Right. You're on your trip when the CD play, you're on a walk, man. This was when the Jeffrey Dahmer story broke. So like on that vacation, I was like dying for like the, that week's people magazine. So every time we stopped in like a drug store or anything,

I was looking for this people magazine. Cause I wanted to know everything about Jeffrey Dahmer. Wow. And then also hiding in the grand Canyon. Maybe there's a bunch of drums down there. looking for this people magazine because i wanted to know everything about jeffrey dahmer wow and then also hiding in the grand canyon maybe there's a bunch of drums down there that and then also uh divinals i touch myself was big what a trip we had what a specific yeah i don't know why i remember that i remember hearing that song in the car with my parents from like i just want to read my jeffrey dahmer magazine there is weird songs do stick out of my parents and like, I just want to read my Jeffrey Dahmer magazine. There is weird.

Songs do stick out in my head on like family vacations. Like when I went to Disney World, By the Way by the Red Hot Chili Peppers was in heavy rotation. And I just remember hearing it. In your brain, you mean? Yeah, sure. I'm just saying I can remember certain songs are like burned into like trips.

It's weird. Yeah. I remember going to grad night at Disneyland and hearing ushers, yeah, constantly. remember certain like certain songs are like burned into like trips it's weird yeah i remember going to grad night at disneyland and hearing ushers yeah constantly and i was like hell no not at my disneyland because i don't want modern hip-hop hits because they play a lot of shit like the grand canyon music that's supposed to play some ragtime yeah i once took a i was a junior high a friend of mine was in this church group and they were i lived in san jose and like oh we were going down to i went along

on their disneyland trip and we took a late night bus ride so i could left at like 10 at night we arrived at like six in the morning whatever but someone had a boom box and they played mc hammers please hammer don't hurt him but the entire time the cd was on repeat so we heard it seven hours so that's what i said and then she fell asleep but the boombox was still playing wow oh no the entire bus ride and also like all right you got you can't touch this you maybe got that prey song it samples when doves cry yeah the rest of the album pretty forgettable yeah i would have to think i i i'm not sure i've ever heard another i was fond of too legit to quit because you got three hits

you got adam's groove to the titular to be legit to quit and this is the way we roll we roll but first record kind of just a delivery mechanism for the single absolutely calling out ouch he can't take much more of this i remember a trip to orlando where in heavy rotation were um california dreaming and life is a highway the original life is a highway i think because the one was in rotation at mills uh at universal and the other was in rotation of like the area soundtracks of the hard rock hotel i and i just heard those a lot i was hoping that you were revealing that you were really like 65 years old and california dreamin was like on the radio when you went down that summer of 69 los angeles the man's terrorized keep an eye out for me uh in once upon a time in hollywood coming this

summer i don't want to sound too old but there was a remake of life is a highway or someone covered it oh it's a cover on the uh car soundtrack rascal rascal flats i don't know the tom cochran original thank you tom cochran also talk about like music forgotten factoids right i don't know why i know the rest of that artist where else did tom couldn't tell you who the seventh president is but i know the original artist of life is highway you okay yeah jason's call we'll we'll cut this up sorry wrong pipe yeah okay too excited about i just got thinking about driving down that highway

mark who you i mean we're taught we're talking about the main disneyland train today but i know you're a fan of one of the other trains at disneyland because of your tat you got a cool tat what's the tat i got a tattoo of the goat with a stick of dynamite in its mouth from big thunder mountain railroad yay it's my favorite goat it's and it's like a uh it is a like really specific it's almost like the the character, the super closeups that would start like a Mickey or a Goofy shoot. Right. Straight on. It's an angle that you wouldn't get.

It's like not him in an action pose. It's more of like his headshot. It almost needs like a starburst behind. I thought about adding like a starburst behind it, a sunburst behind it. Yeah. Like a pork or like a a porky pig loony yeah yeah like when they come out of that thing yeah i just love it's always i had a uh my boyfriend at the time gave me a gift card for a tattoo and i was like i didn't know what i like sat on it for

like months and months not and then one time i was really stoned went on splash mountain and when i got off splash mountain we had planned to go on big thunder i was like i gotta keep an eye out for that goat because i always loved that goat yeah so i was like that's my tattoo i think and then i googled it made sure no one else had it i googled goat dynamite tattoo nothing really i clicked images huh if i were to google it now do you come up i don't know i haven't googled it since interesting i hope so you featured it in a tweet or anything to like own it right intellectual property way so many people think i'm like a satanist or an aries i am neither i have no problems with either sure i could see it yeah like a goat with the dynamite it does seem like

you're an anarchist or something maybe i just like that there's mischief ahead. That's what I like about the goat. From a storytelling standpoint, on the right, he tells you, uh-oh, things are not going according to plan. When goats are the dynamite. Sure. It's sort of a Jurassic Park moment. Absolutely. Nature is being reclaimed.

Nature finds a way, doesn't it? It is also. In a very stupider version. Yeah, much so there. If I think about it, it is sort of implying that maybe that goat is about to die like the goat is gonna blow itself up could be i like to think he like drops it in like someone's bathtub and then like scampers away he kills the humans and he's fine yeah yeah got it yeah that's better to think but it's not sparking it could he could just eat it i mean goats will eat anything he could just like when you once you turn the corner he could just like consume it so he'll just die a slow painful death

then yeah of the poison stuff like if you yeah but if you like drink a bunch of detergent or something sure it would happen just slowly your bowels would yeah kind of collapse but i love uh i also love any that's one of the reasons i like the railroads because i like any ride with critters yeah sure i like that word pro critter yay are you about that word critter country your favorite land in disneyland okay that means i love the candy shop yeah the manager of the candy shop flirt very heavily with my boyfriend and i at the time he gave us free peanut butter cookie thing the peanut butter oh yeah the chocolate covered peanut butter that's a heavy yeah that's a heavy flirt

so i married him it would be fine like to find like to find your partner in Critter Country. Oh, that would make sense. Yeah. I mean, for anybody, too. Like, what a story in general. I mean, it's also that could be the name of a gay bar, Critter Country. You know? Sure. That's a good point.

That's where I would go. I do like Critter Country. I like the aesthetics of it. Like, I like things like buildings made of wood. Like, I like that whole west side of it. The frontier land. You know, I love all that. Yeah, sure.

Yeah. I love the waterfall that's right next to the shops and and it's kind of between the shops and uh the the winnie the pooh ride um i find that to be a nice little calm corner it's all the way in the corner of the park you gotta like make a point of going over there that's where santa is though oh really is that where they do yeah santa is back there sort of by that meet and greet yeah oh gosh where of course the country bears used to be i've never seen the country bears wow that's another podcasting boy we can't it's there but they're not they're too big to be no are they critters critters have to be a little smaller i think critters are like the size like

no bigger than a raccoon or like a fox is it go to critter i'd say so it's like a critter no are they critters critters have to be a little smaller i think critters are like the size like no bigger than a raccoon or like a fox is a go to critter i'd say so it's a critter so you gotta make you gotta say they're bigger i'm not sure i think maybe critters can't talk or i can't know because critters sing in critter country they felt the need to change it because it used to be bear country right that part That part of the park. And then it became critter country when more critters moved in and the bears were executed. Executed. Shot in the back of the head. The critters took over.

That's a good point. That definition, that implies that bears are not critters. Maybe critters are vegetarians? Or you can eat grubs. You can eat nuts and grubs uh-huh yeah what is i'm sure a listener now is screaming at their podcast whatever defines a critter they know exactly what a critter is so tell us critters are defined in a different way in the film critters but i don't think i think that

is that's a different it's a different entomology no michael eisner wanted a critter's land uh it just didn't have it was going to be in the beastly kingdom uh the unfilled animal kingdom the property he's kicking himself he didn't get all this oh go ahead i was gonna do an eisner it's not worth it you go ahead well all this talk about definitions had me thinking about uh something in involving today's topic uh i learned reading about this the difference between trains and locomotives uh colloquially i think they're kind of used interchangeably but the locomotive is that front car with the engine or the boiler uh that that generates the force to pull uh the train which is the series of interconnected cars. It seems like, though, train could also refer to the whole kit and caboodle,

the cars being pulled and the locomotive pulling it. Oh, so a locomotive can't be a train, but a train can have a locomotive in it. I think that's right. Like a caboose just can't be a train. No, that's just a car. That's just a train car. Hell no. Hell no. I'm not on my watch. No, that's just a car. That's just a train car. Hell no. Hell no.

I'm not on my watch. Get out of here, you stinking cabooses. And I'm excited to see if this whole episode brings out the people who really like trains. Well, I'm sure they're all very reasonable folks who are just like easy breezy going, you know, sorry to get some facts wrong, but whatever. I'm sure our level of train knowledge is going to satisfy a hardcore train head. going you know so you get some facts wrong but whatever absolutely sure there's really matters train knowledge is gonna satisfy a hardcore train head i did a monorail a train interesting well the for of the future now that's a good question because for a long time the round

house where the trains and locomotives are parked also uh service the monorail uh the original roundhouse that service both has been demolished and i think other stuff rebuilt uh since so where do they go now a different roundhouse wow some of the history of this attraction is very dry. Yeah, no kidding. Wait, train facts are dry? I know. I do. I mean, listeners will know I love riding the train. Yeah. I love trains.

I love riding the train. I have looked into and I'm thinking of like, oh, maybe next time I go back east, I will take the train back. I will get a sleeper car and do that. Nowadays, you have to change. You probably had probably do this back in the day too i think it's like three trains to get to like harrisburg i would probably take it not before get off before philadelphia but it's like la to chicago chicago to somewhere else somewhere else to harrisburg can you give us the full route and look up some times that they might be leaving but I'm just thinking about I've always wanted to eat

sleep in a sleeper car and just uh see the country by train that's nice you should what's stopping you take a big train ride it's not that much more than like flying back. I mean, it takes four days about. What are some other reasons? What are some other reasons you would do it? Oh, it just seems nice. Jason's top 19 things about trains. I hear you meet some real interesting characters who will talk to you about why they don't like flying,

but they do like trains. Because they're deeply neurotic, probably. Probably, yeah. I would think, unless there's, yeah, maybe there are conspiracy theorists on the train that could tell you some fun conspiracy theories about planes. Oh, yeah, like radiation kind of stuff, something like that.

Chemtrails. Chemtrails. That weird Boeing this is in the news a lot yeah let me ask jason and then i'll throw this out to everyone as a child or now did you have a conductor's hat and a train whistle i didn't have a train whistle uh my parents were pretty good about like tricking us into not like pushing us towards non-noisy toys i don't think i was a child uh i think i had some like kazoos um how about the hat though that's what i'm really looking for i feel like there had to have been a conductor's hat i feel like maybe because we went

to a lot i feel like there was there was um stroudsburg pennsylvania has a historic train museum and exhibits and stuff and a short like steam locomotive circuit that you can ride back okay why'd you move here then yeah i know sounds like heaven on earth well to see travel town which i still haven't been to go to travel town it's free and fun in the park there's this wonderful thing called travel town that's very close to the disney lot where he almost built his original little train park and apparently he was talking to the city of burbank about how can i connect they were like trying to figure out there they were like on the way to building travel town and walt reached out like can there be a big train that

connects to where i'm building a train yeah there's a ton of connections with the train and Disney and Travel Town and the LA Live Steamers, which they have a bunch of old trains there. Walt was inspired by some of those train cars of like, oh, let's make ours look like this. And then the Carolwood Society is over there. The Carolwood Barn from Walt that Walt built in his backyard was preserved and is in griffith park and open one day a month and they have a lot of the original miniatures disney had in his backyard now that i have not done and i probably should have done before this podcast and yet yikes um i want to make sure we've covered everybody's childhood hats though yeah that's what i have to get back to scott yes train uh no train hat whistle um no whistle i think i liked travel town a lot but i because i grew up around here but i uh had no other i didn't have any take home okay train affinity

um what i did do at home was i had a i had a little raft that will inflatable raft in the pool that was themed after the jungle cruise. And I would do a little like two like little mini jungle cruises for my sister. And I'd be the skipper. Wow. And I'd leave like toy animals around. Like I'd put a snake in the pool filter area. And.

That's cute. Yeah. And they're kind of like rocks surrounding my pool. So I pretended like they were little caves and stuff. Wow. I liked that raft a lot. I remember it having a cool design. That's my observation.

I had a raft with a cool design. Cool design. Mark, hat, whistle? No hat, yes, whistle. Really? I'm in the boat, too. I've been to, Sacramento has a great railroad museum uh you get to walk into like a dining car there's no food but you get to see how people used to ride the rails it's a real hoot

there's one part you could walk underneath the train that's very scary because you're walking underneath like the engine oh oh interesting you're like oh this thing is so heavy i would just be turned into a puddle if this fell on me oh sure it's like elevated mass but with a train you know that exhibit you mean a big rock yeah the rock one yeah yeah okay so love a train whistle though what a hoot literally a hoot i i'm trying to think i said no hat but now that i'm thinking about it i may have had a hat I had bandanas I had for sure

A bandana I feel like there's a picture of me Now I'm thinking it might be A different kid I may have been I'm thinking of a photo specifically I'm thinking That there's a different kid with a conductor's hat And a bandana I don't think hat For me but for sure whistle For sure whistle are you thinking of a milk carton

No I'm not. There was a kid trick-or-treating. A kid had a conductor's hat. It was not me, though. I think I was Oscar the Grouch. Hey, that's neat. You were jealous of that train. You didn't know costumes could be so cool until you saw that conductor kid. I think I thought trains

were boring as a kid. Maybe I still do. It's a real flipp you could like list as i'm jason is doing you're listing cool train things and then my counter is just like i don't know it's boring it's like a dumb opinion to have but i i liked any mode of transportation that was just different than a car like my favorite thing the saint louis arch have you ever been in that those little like round spheres that yeah they go up and then left up and then left up. It feels like you're in like, like you're taking a shuttlecraft.

Inside the St. Louis Arch? That's how you get up to the top. Yeah, you're in these little round elevators. I knew you could go in there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's an observation deck at the top. Oh, wow. Terrifying.

But isn't it just, are there windows in the Arch? Yeah, there's like four windows. What? I feel like I've only pictured like stone the yeah there's like four windows what i feel like i've only pictured like stone like it's like the washington monument no in some ways the elevator ride is the best part you can also go in that you can go in the washington monument yeah yeah are there windows in it yeah you see spider-man homecoming he saves his friends boy i don't know anything about our monuments wow and i i when i drove a car cross country uh to move out here i did uh you could buy a combo ticket we learned we got there just in time

because it was about to like the last ones for the day were ending where you got to ride a riverboat up and down the mississippi and then also go in the arch. The Mississippi at that point, muddy and disgusting. And you get to see it from a boat and from above equally muddy. And did you know you can go inside of Thomas Jefferson's head on the Mount Rushmore and look through his eyes? That's available to you, too. I know that one's not true. And Washington's mouth is a slide.

You get spit out the bottom. It's a big tongue big tongue yeah you just fall to your death yeah there's a pad down there oh okay it was a crash pad but you drop like 300 feet that's terrifying it's a taller it's a taller pad than a normal pad oh i love a tall pad yeah it'll get you don't worry mike is recalling when he saw pictures from the filming of north by northwest sure uh that's his brain is as muddy as the mississippi so yeah as a kid i think trains for me boring no offense but i wasn't i now really like i don't i like i'm not some insane train person but I like riding the train I think it's fun it harkens back to an old time transportation

it's nice I like all that stuff but as a kid it was like I don't want to ride the train Space Mountain please like fast cool space. Oh you didn't go on the Disney train. I did I think but it's not a memory I cherish as a kid in Orlando Well the Disney World one is a lot simpler.

Yes, that's also true. It is more practical, I think. I mean, the trains are good for getting to the other side of the park, especially in Florida, where it's much bigger. I think it was many years before I went on the Disneyland train, actually, and realized there was cool stuff on it. I think it was many years into going to disneyland before i even made that loop to see all the fun stuff it's also one of those things once you get older like oh i just i would love a good sit oh yeah it's like a nice 20 minutes and also the people watching is great yeah you get a nice aerial view of the park especially like towards the background toontown

and stuff i like to get on at new orleans square and get off on main street because oh yeah there's nothing most of it there's nothing in between Main Street and New Orleans Square. You see some Mardi Gras heads, that's about it. And there is one Jaguar. Right. And it's built up by the narration. So be careful in Adventureland. You don't know what could be lurking around any corner.

And then it's one still Jaguar. Yes. A false Jaguar. that's a good that's a good route uh i've never thought about what a favorite one is for me that's definitely a i i like the new i think i like new orleans square station the most besides the main one yeah um i think that's i that's a good it's that's a good one too. This isn't very far, but taking that up to Fantasyland can save you a lot of walking because it's up

at the north part of the park. You end with the big finish. You end with the dioramas, with the Grand Canyon and the dinosaurs. You might have picked the best route if you're not going to do a full circle. That's a pretty good one. The Grand Circle Tour. Slightly less than a full circle. I do like doing a three-quarter circle. That's a pretty good one. The Grand Circle Tour. Slightly less than a full circle.

Three quarters of a full circle. I like doing the Grand Circle Tour and then I get off where I want to go. What do you mean? You like go around all the way around once, do the Grand Circle Tour and then get off at New Orleans Square or Toontown

Station. Okay, so you're using it. You get a full ride. you get a full ride i get a full ride you get the full fun ride and then you use it as a practical thing to go interesting really i don't think i've ever done that i've never done around more than i think that's what i did the last time i was there i've never done that i like it i mean i like i love going through splash mountain uh yeah and of course the Canyon, which I didn't realize until researching this episode, the Grand Canyon came first, and then after the World's Fair ended,

they moved the dinosaurs from Ford's Magic Skyway. They moved that scene next to it. I also didn't know that. So, yeah, if you... That's just a fact. I was just trying to... I wrote down all these facts No no no

That sounded weird I did find that interesting The Grand Canyon was there in like 1958 I think what's weird about it is that it's presented As one full experience This by the way it's possible You're listening to this and you've not been to Disneyland Or you don't even know that thing is there Because Disney World doesn't have this

Disneyland Paris does not Have anything special on the train But I didn't know also until researching even know that thing is there because disney world doesn't have this no disneyland paris does not have anything special on the train but i didn't know also until researching tokyo disneyland does have primeval world um the oh there is one other primeval world i missed it on the train i missed that too in tokyo yep yeah i guess she did uh i may have as well but maybe now i gotta do it uh but the uh anyway if you get on at tomorrowland or anywhere before it anywhere approaching the main street station it's this really fun grand finale where you see some cool dioramas one is mainly a diorama with some animatronics and then you go back in time to the kingdom of the dinosaurs um and i think what my takeaway thinking about grand canyon diorama and primeval world for a while

there's always been a disconnect to me that they presented like you are in the past of the grand canyon i mean is that what's going on it seems seems like it. But now we take you to millions of years ago. But you don't see canyons really. I thought it started, you see Grand Canyon as it is now, and then you go back in time. Yeah, that's correct. But in that transition, are we time traveling somewhere else? Or is it like Back to the Future where you travel in the same physical space? Oh, I never thought about it.

I don't know. Because is that, yeah, is the dinosaurs, are they in the Grand Canyon in the past? thought about i don't know because is that yeah is the dinosaurs are they in the grand canyon and well they don't show the grand canyon they don't just not formed yet are they implying maybe it's pre-canyon pre-canyon are they implying the asteroid the asteroid made the canyon that's what it is shoddy science it's erosion made the canyon not every school child knows that there's a river all right there's layers of sediment it would be fun though it would be asteroid did it very strange strike it's yeah that's all over the mat that's not a big round hole maybe it bounced around a lot this asteroid needs to get its act together it's pretty goofy

It's like a It's a crazy hole you made Disney history It's a little bit You know It's like the Inglourious Bastards history Where Hitler got killed Right

That didn't happen? It's a flight of fancy Yeah apparently it didn't I'm surprised to learn that too I wonder if he's gonna do something In Once Upon a Time in Hollywood If like Manson gets like Shot in a bank or something

I do feel like that is gonna happen In Once Upon a Time in Hollywood Like some false Sharon Tate lives in Manson gets like shot in a bank or something. I do feel like that is going to happen in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Like Sharon Tate lives in Manson. Oh. Like something weird like that. That'd be cool. We'll see.

Hmm. Can we also incorporate that like the asteroid was like a fireball that Zeus threw or something? Oh, from Hercules? Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's up in like Greek heaven. I'm showing also how much i know about mythology uh he was mad at somebody and he threw a lightning bolt and then turned into a comet that killed the dinosaurs and from the grand canyon is it a character from disney's hercules as well i guess we're talking disney so we might as well yes it's tied into that all right that makes sense

to me rip torn wait who wasorn. Wait, who was Zeus? James Woods, of course. Hades. That's Danny DeVito, the other one. The sidekick. Rip Torn was somebody. Was he? Was Rip Jason?

Are you looking it up? I'm looking it up. Rip Torn. People are screaming right now. It keeps happening. Locomotive. Just yell train. Well, doesn't matter. We'll figure out just enter just interrupt any sentence hard uh in the middle i also there's a great lightning strike effect oh

yeah yeah very effective and new because they just redid the diet like they made them pretty plus them up i guess yeah like there's very striking, beautiful dioramas. Like there's a storm in the background. Yeah, that new stuff. There's a bunch of pterodactyls swirling. Pterodactyls, very scary. Children do not like them. So I think they're great.

Have you witnessed that? Like kids freaking out a little? It's also one of the few rides. And I also, another, I love any ride with quitters and any ride that has pitch darkness in it because i feel like pitch darkness like in our highly you know uh everyone loves to sue everybody it feels like so dangerous there's something like edgy about taking the mass public into pitch darkness to me like it feels like it seems like dangerous in a way like oh this is like a real old-timey thrill yeah and closed spaces like it's not seatbelted in. No.

Anything can happen. So, like, if you, yeah, you would, like, you could switch positions. Rip Torn is Zeus. Oh, thank God. Thank God. Jason Sheridan with a breaking news alert.

Rip Torn is Zeus. Locomotive is the engine. Trains, the cars are the whole thing. In spring, as of spring 2019 rip torn back to your gorge is what they call the new thing um when you talk about lawsuits and people bumping around and stuff my favorite thing that i found in my research was that in the early days

of the disneyland railroad they had uh cars that were themed after cattle cars and uh so you know it's more there are no that there were no seats they're just like it's you know it's just it's big planks like you're keeping animals in a pen um and uh so you're like okay so there were like a couple cars that passengers didn't get on that were just themed like, you know, as if there were like livestock in there. No, Walt put people, guests could go in the cattle cars where there were no seats or restraints of any kind. And specifically, old Imagineer and animator Ward Kimball, who was a train enthusiast like Walt, said, hey, that's weird, don't you think? Maybe that's not safe to have people just standing on a train and he's like no i want them i want people to feel like they're

cattle well mission accomplished yeah in a lot of ways you ever been in that space mountain line jeez yeah uh i also i came across a crazy crazy thing from like the opening month. Within a week of Disneyland's opening on July 17th, 1955, a brake man pulled the switch connecting the Disneyland Railroad's main line with a siding at Main Street USA Station. Too soon as the Retlaw 2, they they called them retlaw one and two the original trains and what's retlaw uh that is walter backwards walter backwards yeah really laying it on that's the kind of thing that i saw in books as a kid and thought that is so clever

and then i go tell my fellow students don't you think that's clever and they would turn and walk away that's my childhood uh so so we pulled it pulled the brake too soon the caboose at the end of the freight train had not fully made it across the switch when it was pulled and as a result the caboose's front set of wheels uh uh traveled like basically jumped the tracks uh traveled along the main line towards the passenger chain, swung to the side, colliding with a concrete slab and derailing on impact.

During the ensuing commotion, the airing brake man, presumably to avoid disciplinary action, quietly left the scene, exited the park, and was not seen again. So this guy disappeared. He ghosted him. He ghosted him. quietly left the scene, exited the park, and was not seen again. So this guy disappeared.

He ghosted him. He ghosted him. Yeah. Anyway, I was trying to read that and got very confused reading that. But basically, yeah, the brake man disappeared into a crowd, never to be heard from again.

What year was that? That was 55. That was within the opening month. Wow. When you could do that, when you could disappear and start life afresh right start a new name the good old days yeah like madman don draper style yeah exactly yeah now people would find you like like we i've said multiple times before have i dreamed about driving east from Los Angeles until I run out of gas and starting life anew? Yes, many times. Will I do it?

You get to like Arizona? Yeah, Arizona, maybe even still in California. Who knows? Who knows what adventures await? Don't just do it. Derail a train first. Yeah, that is good. You know, if we're going back into the history of the thing,

not that we have to be super detailed in all this, but okay, Disneyland really exists because of the train. That's what's important about the train. It was that Walt got into model railroads, and he started thinking, is there some place that I could put up a train and have people come a train and have people come ride it and have uh dads and kids and moms all hang out together so it's so crucial to

the dna of the park and it grew out of him having a train in his backyard which was the carol wood pacific railroad um which he had because he was a polo enthusiast and suffered too many polo injuries so he had a doctor suggested a safer hobby and that's why disneyland exists because walk out fucked up rich people are so weird polo is an insane sport yeah horses and clubs oh it's that one. That's what polo is. Yeah, you're like swinging, whacking hard balls while on a horse. Because like Walt had like, what a fun, I mean, it's not funny if you had to live with it,

but what a funny like ailment where he'd be like, ah, my polo injury is acting up. Because that's what would happen. Like that's written about in many a biography of Walt Disney isney is old polo injury like comes up really yeah we were we were talking about a little bit with the crafts when we were remember at the club 33 he was talking about walt's old polo injury oh right and he was quizzing waitresses on walt's like polo injury and his nurse because he had a nurse yes and the theory was that there was something going on with the right right right i but but the polo injury i think it looms large in his history in general so then i imagine wall had like an old smoking doctor who was like

i don't know uh take up trains maybe just do something different like what else do rich people do trains first things first, keep drinking. Right. Smoking, smoking? Of course, yeah. Keep at it, dude. A lot of butter on your steak? They were drinking in the doctor's office, too, I assume. He had a little bar over a bar.

Big bowls of chili. So anyway. Back to the polo. Polo's too dangerous. But remember, diet custards. Stick to diet custards. In all, like, I just got that big Disneyland history book, and I've seen pictures like this before,

but there's a lot of pictures of Walt in a tiny train with the hat on with his kids, like, going around. Like, he was way into this. My neighbor growing up, he was a British this my neighbor growing up he's a british guy he had in his garage a train set that would lower from the ceiling of the garage and take up the whole two-car garage like he built this whole mechanism himself so there's something about i don't know what it is about like older when you get older you want to play with train you want to be master of a domain or something i I don't know. What is that psychologically?

Yeah, is it like a God complex? Is it a, you're trying to like. Maybe we're like, I have, my life is chaos, but at least this has order. This makes sense. It's like Reverend Lovejoy's trains on The Simpsons. Bobby Bacala, too, on The Sopranos. That's like a later Sopranos is bobby's love of trains right i my like my great uncle got me a train set for christmas as a kid and it was very hard to put up and i

didn't know i thought it was fun to make a little track and then send him around but i think i put it together maybe twice and that was it yeah so i'm trying to think like now that i'm an older person and i collect many a toy would i uh if i had room would i have a a train train going around i'm not sure i don't know i think there's a meditative quality to it like setting up the tracks and the little buildings and the trains and if you're painting i mean once you get to painting miniatures that's a next level sort of thing but anyone who is mechanically my like my my stepdad is an engineer and he uh yeah he likes train stuff he has a train setup in his basement and um yeah likes going to museums this sort of thing and i think he he doesn't really work on

cars though i think there might also be people who like tinker with cars and like train stuff is kind of adjacent to that so it's like they all got a touch of that welcome to marwin they're all processing something it's a world where you didn't get beaten up and you don't have bad war memories Janelle Monáe loves you but I think if you are inclined to

taking stuff apart and putting stuff together like the train thing I was never into like die cast i remember the first time my dad got me a like a it was there was like a car a car on a box and like oh cool like my batmobile toy no this one you put together yourself and you paint it and he took out that little particular paint with the tiny brush and that smelled really crazy and i just totally glazed over i don't want to put my toy together are you crazy i think i had a batmobile model that i never put together i'm pretty sure

i had a next generation enterprise oh did you put that together i put it together whoa that must have been hard it was hard but i would never put the stickers on because i would always get the stickers wrong so i I would just leave them off. And I was bad at painting, so I never painted. How big was it? It was like a foot. Okay. Pretty good.

Foot and a half, maybe. I hung it from my ceiling. That was a toy I always wanted. I'm talking about more of the action figure one that came. Sure, sure. That was one I always wanted but never got. I think that design holds up next generation. Oh, it's fantastic. Sure.

It's also the best tv show ever made did you guys ever do have you guys ever talked about the star trek experience at the las vegas hilton it's on the list oh yeah it's probably coming up we've been probably coming soon yeah and more fun star trek stuff that i discovered in the last month and i was very sad when it went away oh really it is it it's amazing it was amazing i won't talk about if you're going to talk about later well i don't know give us something though they make it when you're in line for the ride part of they make it seem like you're just in a line for like a star tours type thing so like you queue up in your rows like that like you're

waiting for the star tours door to open but when you're on that when it's about to start the lights go down the lights turn off and when they come back on you're standing on the transporter bay of the star trek enterprise oh right i've read about that was like in a crazy effect i was like and then you're walking through the hallways of the enterprise and then you walk onto the bridge do you have an idea how they did that effect i think there was four walls around you and then like they raised wow when you're in the dark that's pretty nuts it was great and then you walk through get onto a shuttlecraft and have like a star tours type regular flight simulator thing this is a thing it was great it sounds great there was multiple

versions of it i've learned there was a scarier version maybe the maybe the board the board were involved oh boy uh um but i think as a kid as soon as i saw space stuff fuck you trains like i was not interested no sure the end i saw star trek or star wars and i was like this is awesome trains boring snooze sure bye frontier land i don't i like big thunder but this isn't a spaceship I'm in. Like, I was way more. Right. Once you've seen space, how do you go back down to a train? No. A mine cart, maybe.

Maybe. Maybe. But I'd be leaping from tracks and landing on other tracks. Still got some adrenaline. I bet there's, I bet by virtue of this, I think in 1955, having a train be one of the primary attractions in your new amusement park reflected the time. Of course. But I bet today there's a lot of people who are into trains primarily because of Disney Land. Oh, yeah.

As opposed to it because it's not, there's not as much affection for that in the culture and people don't grow up with Westerns and Davy Crockett and that world of stuff. Yeah. Like it feels as alien to them as like any like actual alien thing is to us yeah yeah yeah what is that is that for it could be from the future who knows what it is it's so crazy looking disney ingrained in the like train enthusiast community in america because they the machine shop at disney the disney Studios built the first two trains. And as they added trains, they just kept buying old trains to restore like as they needed new ones.

So that's where a lot of those came from. Like some were custom made, but some were decommissioned. And let's get it in the park. Yeah. Get it in the park and repaint it. And it's andney has like gifted or donated or in one case there was like a trade um like older train cars or older locomotives to museums or collectors or sold stuff to collectors so well so here's a crazy thing that happened

to me a number of years ago uh i went up to San Luis Obispo or a little bit above it. There is Santa Margarita. It was a wedding at a place called the Santa Margarita Ranch. And there was this sprawling property, super insane. The reception's in a giant barn. And then after the ceremony is done, a train pulls up. What do you mean a train at this property? And the train says Disneyland Railroad.

And they they tell us this was the original Disneyland train. And I never looked further into it. And like, so what do you mean? When was it decommissioned? It was so this was Rett Law onelaw one yeah is what i was on and if you if anyone's uh lucky enough to go to some event there or sometimes they do public events up there uh but that that's what they have it's what it is one of the original like day one trains and what happened is they are more of like traditional train cars and like interior cars with windows um and if you've

been on the train lately but i mean by that i mean since the 60s you know that it is not it's not enclosed cars right it's like the stacked seating so that you could facing out so that you can look at the dioramas when they put in the grand canyon thing in the 50s uh people did not want to have to be peering through these tiny windows and they started like getting rid of those cars and plus they were falling into disrepair anyway so these these train cars were they were the theatrical ones quote unquote went in they were all commissioned around the 74 i think uh and they got moved up to this ranch uh which was like a a blast like i think they were like falling apart when they left disney and just bumming around the property uh but they have been beautifully restored up

there and and the coolest thing is that apparently one time there was a film festival on this ranch and as part of it there were robbers who rode up on horses and robbed the train and one of the guys was in a bandana and when he pulled down the bandana it was david carradine whoa kung fu yeah kung fu was robbing your train he doesn't need this money you rich actor unless he didn't play it might It might have been pre-Kill Bill. Yeah. Resurgence yet. Those enclosed cars, I believe, are called combine cars.

And Walt liked them because it reminded him of his days as a boy. He was a news butcher selling newspapers and candy. A news butcher? They called it a news butcher. Really? That was what news boys were called if you went up and down train cars. That's what I call Jeff Zucker. You know what I mean? I'll tell you.

Tell you what. Yeah, so he was a news butcher. If they had had a news butcher on that train, you could have gotten one of your Jeffrey Dahmer People magazines right on the train. Could you imagine? And a big lolly. A dream. And a big lolly and a big stogie. You could have been sitting there having a stogie.

What an obnoxious teenager I would have been. What an obnoxious, yeah. I've been to, it's closed now, but there used to be a restaurant called Poe Folks down by Disneyland in Orange. It was like a Southern themed. And they'd had a thing where up towards the ceiling, a train, a little model train would go around. Those are some of my favorite trains.

Would you ever see a train in a restaurant going through little fun dioramas let me tell you another good orange county train mike you know where i'm going with this well maybe uh we were there once together but the uh uh in uh in buena park on beach boulevard on the way yes on the way into nutsberry farm there is a mcdonald's yeah that has a model train inside. Really? It's like a, you know, I mean, not a bigger than usual, but like on the larger end of McDonald's. And the train goes all around it, super detailed miniature. But the craziest thing about this McDonald's is that the sign in really big, like kind of like fancier, more like fiber optic lighting

than you usually see at a McDonald's has this big cursive logo mcthriller what mcthriller why you go in is it because of trains it that doesn't make sense those words still don't tie together there was apparently uh at one point a simulator ride in this mcdonald's but there hasn't been since like 1989 and yet they never change it from McThrill. Were you traveling through like McDonald's land? Like was Ronald McDonald there like shooting Nazis or something? I don't know.

Blowing away fry guys for trying to steal. Third Reich fry guys. Why have you turned? Speaking of trains. Oh no. Those are trains I don't like didn't consider that with the cars maybe people want some escapism yeah don't remind people the recent events of the um no this was uh i don't know what the simulator at mcdonald's yeah we have to find if there was a mcdonald's there's got to be some

we have to find that video of this mcthriller yeah somebody in the audience there's nothing you want more after you have a nice big greasy mcdonald's meals like a motion simulator is the perfect thing to ease my stomach oh man it's friday in southern california during the easter season two dollar filet of fish sandwich uh running right now i would love to pound a couple of those bad boys and hop in a 3d motion simulator get jostled for a while how about like a body wars where you go inside grimace like he has like a tummy and you have to go like you gotta go help him and you get to see how mcdonald's food digests clogged arteries sure seasonal overlay where you go inside uh uncle o grimacy his irish uncle yeah you don't see a lot of saint patrick's day seasonal overlays like a Seasonal overlay where you go inside Uncle O'Grimmacy, his Irish uncle.

Yeah. You don't see a lot of St. Patrick's Day seasonal overlays. It's like a diseased liver. Oh, yeah. He's a drinker, but not from McDonald's. Obviously no liquor here. I don't know where he's doing it. Grimace.

You have to help Grimace donate part of his liver to Uncle O'Grimmacy. Oh, no. You have to use the front of your ship to laser off a little section they should do a galaxy's edge millennium falcon level ride where you have to you actually do the incision like you as a group have to perform the surgery on uncle o'grimacy get out and you have to you get put in a scuba suit and swim out into his innards and remove the purple ulcers.

But wait, wouldn't that be healthy for Grimace? Wouldn't the ulcer... Well, but he's purple. What are his guts? Like neon green, maybe? Maybe like a lime green or something i guess so yeah purple is healthy if you're grimace that's a good point there's got to be some

cartoonist or some deviant art person who's drawn like a diagram of the anatomy of grimace i'm sure it's more detailed than you want yeah absolutely his blood is milkshakes i mean his blood's gotta. That actually might be canon. I'm so lethargic. He's kind of the Eeyore of their world. Absolutely. That's true. Yeah, yeah.

This is like Maya Rudolph's character in Away We Go. Remember, her job was drawing medical textbook illustrations. I've never forgotten Away We Go since I've seen it. Weekly viewings. Weekly viewing. Sing-alongs it is shocking that there's not a full-scale mcdonald's theme park yeah you would think with the amount of money they have and the legit affection we all seem to have for these dumb characters you would think there would have been a full scale somewhere

mcdonald's part you would have been cheap as shit, but sure. Well, Orlando, that massive Orlando one where you could still get pizza and pasta and stuff. They certainly have interesting McDonald's restaurants, but you'd think there would be like a full scale. The McDonald's by my house growing up, it was always a treat to go. We never got it regularly, but they had at the kids table, like two saddles you could sit on at the kids table. And that was always a thrill.

Wow. Just a different way to sit. Yeah. But as a kid, you're like, this is great. I'm sitting on a saddle eating cheeseburger. Yeah.

What more do you want out of life? This isn't some regular meal. I'm not some regular kid. And you don't need back support when you're a child. That's fine. I would hate it now. The best and scariest thing i have is just going inside of the play place officer big mac mouth in like his like tall thing he would climb

and he we that was and we all had that memory right yeah yeah they had like it was a piece of play equipment and it was inside of his mouth but it was elevated yikes we had uh the chucky cheese where i grew up in san jose there was a one of the chucky they're big the band but you could there were like tunnels under the band was elevated but you could crawl underneath like excuse me little mazes whoa hold on a second cancel the train talk pull the car around this was a new episode title this was a two-story chucky cheese oh my god yeah it was because you could get i you could get very close to these animatronics wait what are the tunnels do why they were just like little

mazes i don't know there's also a room that was just a strobe light where kids could just like jump around and this feels so decadent it feels like god would be destroyed yeah it was the struck by lightning could you watch the show from the tunnels no it was just it was very scary going up that close to them uh-huh they're frightening there was also the the elvis one the hound dog who would sing but he had like his own little lounge room and you could sit in little stools in front of him and the stools would bounce up and down like umpapa style you're telling me captain eo's seats chairs that move along with stools but like add a little bar in front of the you're telling me that jasper t jowls the dog yeah had a special room where this was not

this is a hound dog you're right you're right you're right themed there were other bands that's why it's gonna take us a year to get through checky she's i sent you that picture of like all the showbiz pizza characters were some of them held over i don't know because what were the boy there was the beach boys parody there was a beach boys group they were the were they like the beach the beagle i think they were all dogs it was an elvis dog there were beatles dogs yeah we had the elvis dogs uh i have a memory of gorillas too i think i think i thought the beach boys were gorillas but i don't i think the gorillas were something different it is funny to me like like it's an elvis parody for kids in the 80s and 90s who wouldn't really would kind of know

who elvis was and then you know all the looney tunes and syndication or stuff where like there's cartoon marx brothers or cartoon right humphrey bogart james cagney everyone's cagney what a good reference well like our kids 50 years from now when you mention the rock are they gonna know what the hell we're talking that's true no yeah will they know ninja and like the um dolan twins more than the rock like what are they worried like the we may have like on the guardians ride if one of these actors does something crazy pulls a jussie smollett you know what are you gonna do i wonder if they have yeah this is the morality world is not like really had to reckon with this in a big way right um yeah i don't know what and and well and you know what we're coming

up on is like wait although is dep fine what's what have we determined he seems like a piece of shit but it seems like he skated by for because he hasn't been convicted of anything we heard he's i don't i'm fuzzy on dep is it? Is he supposed to be no more Depp? Yeah, I think there's a feeling. Unless you're J.K. Rowling, which he's totally on board with him. I think everyone else is a little bit like distance. And we all know she's been making very good judgment lately.

If I could describe J.K. Rowling in two words, it would be normal and the second word would be regular. Yes. Just like my poops. Yeah. They may have to reckon with like do i mean i guess in that case they just remove maybe it's easier to just remove a face with a hammer a couple times that's all you got to do just make them look different look like a different fashion into a different facial structure i have here i believe this is the character you're referencing maybe that looks like him yeah king was a lion oh a lion a nine foot tall animatronic lion named the king nine wow that's what it says

on the showbiz pizza wiki and i just that when i go to the tiki room hearing that clicky clacking on the end brings me right back to that because you could hear these were not smooth are you kind of fond of the clicking i love the clicking clicking. Yeah, I think I like clicking. The tiki room. It's so like, it's a true, talk about time capsule. It's a true time capsule. Maybe that's my version of liking the clicks and pops on vinyls, you know? Yeah.

Like the way they used to do it. It's better with deafeningly loud hydraulic sounds. I know there's stuff at Disneyland that has changed and will continue to change over the years but if they took out the clicking and clacking of the tiki room i think the cognitive dissonance would just drive me insane how do they dampen the clicking don't ever don't dampen the clicks don't dampen the clicks don't dampen the i have one request from the audience if you live in Ohio, a king cat exists at Jungle Jim's grocery store in Fairfield, Ohio. What?

However, it seems to be in poor condition. The king can be seen in left corner in the back of the dining area in the showroom. So, if you live near Jungle Jim's grocery store in Fairfield, Ohio, please send us a photo of this animatronic. This grocery store sounds like a paradise. I agree. There's a restaurant with a lion in the back of it? I agree. This grocery store sounds like a paradise. I agree. There's a restaurant with a lion in the back of it? I agree. I don't know anything else about it.

Also, if they have cans of Skyline Chili, send us some. I hear it's not as the same as getting it in the stores, but you know. Yeah, don't send like a meal. Don't mail us like a fresh from the restaurant Skyline Chili. Maybe Jason. Well, yeah. It'll keep. How long? Eight days. Chili keeps. That'll keep. How long?

Eight days. Chili keeps. They would eat it on the trail. If there's one person listening who lives like, you know, a couple blocks away from the Fairfield grocery store and is now feels like. This is our mission. This is a call to action. But I'm. What I'm.

I flash to like. They get too excited. They get. They like. I'm going there right now. Speed out of the car. Get like T-boned by another car. Oh, God. Don't put that on us. No, I don't.

Someone's been watching Vice too much. Be safe is all I'm saying. I'd be excited too if my local grocery store had a call to arms related to it. It might not be there honestly who knows when that wikipedia was last updated or they'll get there right as it's leaving and the person can go wait they're just ripping the head off make the incision i was gonna say i will offer a free lifetime patreon subscription if you send us the head. Whoa. I think in general,

if we get sent any robot heads, yeah, you're in for free. Yeah. But it has to be a certificate of authenticity as well. You can't... Well, no, I take that back. California. If you can make a facsimile

of any of our beloved animatronics heads... Who is making these certificates of authenticity? Why are those authentic? Yeah, that's a good point. You can go to Kiko and make a certificate of authenticity. It's a very very good point it's a big thing in like california like you can't sell autographed books and stuff in california like you can't sell that as like this was autographed by the author unless you have a certificate of authenticity but i don't understand

how you do that forge that yeah there's a named Authenticus who sits on a tall throne and he does all of the stamping. Authentic. Being authentic. So if you don't pass the Authenticus test. It's interesting, all our democratic rules. What a terrible job. Seems so boring after a while.

It was fun the first few years, but I've been at it a while. I gotta find something else, but it's hard when your name's Authenticus. You get tied into a certain line of work. Term limits and torts and bills and laws, but we still honor Authenticus. We've all agreed. Yeah.

Hey, some systems just work. Yeah, that's true. He'll teach his son. Don't change horses in his dream. He's 150 years old. How long have we been talking? Do we need to get back to the trains? Yeah, I would like to get back to the trains.

Where are we at? Oh, we've been doing about an hour and five. Okay, great. We still got plenty of train time. Since the 2000s, the trains have been running on biodiesel. They used to just run on diesel. The Disneyland Railroad now running on biodiesel. They used to just run on diesel. The Disneyland Railroad now runs on biodiesel.

I do love that smell. The smell of the fuel. Oh, yeah, yeah. Am I crazy? No. I know what you're saying. That's part of the atmosphere of the park. You can't tell when you go by the Autopia because it smells like just pure gas. But other than that, you can smell.

Also, the the cabin the burning cabin doesn't burn anymore no no you used to see that now it used to be because it was attacked by indians and then as someone knocked over a lamp and now everything's fine they changed the story it was an attack zone and then it became at first it was like they were under an Indian attack. Yeah. There was a lot more like Pawnee kind of crap in Disney. Yeah. And the burning of the town and like the armory and stuff. Yeah. And like Zorro would come in once in a while.

Yeah, Zorro would show up sometimes. The guy who played Zorro would come and like help. Yeah. Help? Like not in costume? Clean the bathrooms? Yeah, yeah. He would operate a ride or two.

Oh no. Two per car, please. Quit slicing Z's into the customers. How else would you know he was there? Yeah. I didn't know the train used to be like there were two different. So like they used to be able to run two at once and

you could either get on a main street or get on a frontier land but you were taking it all the way around it was a round trip and you already heard that i mean i think that would it sounds fun you didn't have a choice you didn't have a choice and then eventually they stopped like okay no it's one track we're gonna run multiple trains on one track and you're gonna be able to get on and off but i didn't realize when they introduced e-tickets like the train was always the highest level ticket the train was an e-ticket until 1982 when they got rid of it all the way to the end really yeah that's why i didn't realize that that's the trains weren't even like a novelty form of transportation back then it would be like here's a bus ride for us you know what i mean

right that's true. People probably took the trains a lot more than we do now. Yeah. But I think they have always been expensive to maintain. I suppose so. A lot of moving parts. Sure. I guess people weren't taking old timey trains. That's what any ticket's going for is old polished steam trains and brass.

Because these are steam trains. You and they're like a stick most most like steam trains i think are not existing in the world like that's a rare form of train these days yeah yeah which is like they need to be maintained by people who know what they're doing yes i remember there's a whole talk of when they were gonna they when they were gonna do the star wars line construction what was going to happen to the people that operate the train because they're doing because i remember there's a whole talk of when they were gonna they when they were gonna do the star wars land construction what was gonna happen to the people that operate the train because they're like some of the only people that know how to maintain a steam train you can't just furlough these very valuable specific knowledge sources right so they they had them like talk telling you about the train if you wanted to walk over there which we did around like to give them

something to do so they were if you walked over by the trains when that when it was down they would be just like wandering around and usually i think all they would do is help you pull the thing to make the whistle the whistle was a thrill to pull the whistle uh you should do that in your photo shoot uh i did it a number of times i can't remember i don't think we have a photo shoot i think we were concentrating more inside the train itself yeah because the whistle we were talking about the whistle on the like on the other side of the station yeah they had a solo whistle just set up separate um what else uh the caboose okay so you can still ride the caboose is sometimes on the tracks i've never gotten to ride and i've

tried multiple times the lily bell which is the restored parlor car and uh did you guys know who the first person to ever ride in the lily bell was in 1976 is it nixon emperor hirohito of japan wow putting the past behind us putting the past behind us uh building bridges mending fences did he give it an emperor's kiss i can only imagine i can only assume i don't know if they felt like wow american technology is really far behind yeah this is the best they got i was not impressed from my trip yeah crush the americans we have nothing to worry about uh yeah have you asked to do the lily bell i've like i i always heard that if you went to city hall first thing in the morning and he asked is the lily bell running and if it wasn't if it was on the tracks and it wasn't scheduled for a

special event or vip you could get a ticket for it now i've heard if you have to go to main street station and talk to the employees if you can do it and then i i feel like i've also heard it's it's been relegated to the tours to the the additional tours i think maybe it's a i think maybe club 33 gets you on there too yeah i'm sure yeah i can't just have anybody walking on that, spilling a drink. No. It's filled with beautiful memorabilia, Disney family photos. Yeah, like this, right? That's it? Yeah. It looks really nice.

I rode in when I did my VAP tour last year. I rode in a different car, but not the Lily Bell. You rode in an inside car? In an inside car, yeah. There was only a few people in there. Oh. What was in it? Just some benches different benches what's that was it green yeah i think that's the caboose yeah i wrote in the we wrote in the caboose uh i i have pictures of me alone in that from another time why were you alone alone i was with someone but they took the picture i i am solo in the picture looking like a pig a pig and shit i like the idea that you just set up a

camera with a timer yeah you're alone in the caboose alone in a caboose could be like a great one-man show oh kidding yeah what brought you there are you gonna get out are you there to kill yourself suck in train fumes until you die steam though oh yeah couldn't do it anymore that's too bad not a good place to kill yourself uh yeah that lily bell that looks nice they they really should do some like insane high-end event because sometimes they'll do like a you know give us a thousand dollars and you can eat breakfast by the hippo at the Jungle Cruise.

Yeah. Finally. Yeah. We've all been asking for it. There was a Haunted Mansion version, though. There was a dinner. Oh, I would do that. There was a full dinner in the portrait hallway.

Yeah. Do you think they'll ever have like, I want $1,000, I'll give you 10 grand and I want an actor playing Walt Disney? Just to walk you around the park? Yeah. Like, will they ever have like a Walt Disney character walking around, do you think i don't know i think it's dicey for them it's a good idea it's it's the divide between like the family the the estate like the estate's its own little thing that works in cooperation with the corporation the walt disney company the walt disney company

has their version of walt and then the family has their version walt and they're both very protected yeah i mean it's interesting because he is now heavily marketed everywhere in the park yeah clothes and prints and posters quotes he didn't say quotes he didn't say i love flying drones mr gorgon tear down this wall uh yeah but so it is all you need is love purple rain i only want to see you standing in the purple yeah let's see some they should do some mashup shirts of walt disney like make them look like doctor who or something great yeah yeah oh yeah um yeah or him with star wars coming that makes more sense probably property saver and stuff sure right yeah just a picture of him like in the conduct because he would put on the like train guy outfit and he would drive the trains around even though he was

not a train engineer or fireman which are the two positions was he that barman who like derailed the train maybe oh man and he's like he was wearing a disguise and that's why they never saw that man whoever that guy was i would love a walt shirt where he was just a word bubble that says like i fucking love trains waltz what is this dismal land too edgy taking something good and making it seem weird and perverse whoa whoa david lynch over here what would banksy call a universal studios scary doom aversal studios yeah uh yeah uh studios i don't we i'm gonna have to i can't i can't do reversal works pretty well

say that for now we should do a dismal end episode as well i would yeah yeah i don't think there are any critters at Universal. Are there? Well, Woody Woodpecker. Those were kind of critters, but not anymore. Now are there any? Do you consider the Minions critters? No. Okay.

I feel like a critter has to have furry. What about Woody Woodpecker? Yeah. Is he a big presence in Orlando? I've never been to Orlando. I've never been to Disney World. Everyone says Disney World's bigger than Disneyland. Like, I don't care.

It's certainly bigger. I don't believe them. I don't believe them. Sounds like a myth. I think it's that swamp air is getting to your brain. You're just humid. That's all you know. Nothing could be bigger than Disneyland. That doesn't make any sense.

I don't need the castle to be bigger. It's not about the size. Sure. I hear that. It's about the charm. It's about the tarps covering it when it's getting repaired. So, my chat.com can complain about the rust. There's real problems in the world, you know,

than a rusty shingle. Maybe that's what's good for you. If we stay mad about these little things, then we don't have to be mad about the bigger things that we can't control. Well, maybe we should rise up and tear down against these. It's time to move on from childish things.

We could still be mad about shingles then. Yeah, alright. You know, Walt, would you be allowed to dress as Walt in the park? Oh, I saw in Tokyo during Halloween time there were a couple people dressed as Walt for Halloween.

Yes. You were in Tokyo Disneyland with Walt cosplayers? Walt cosplayers. Neat. I sent somebody a photo of it, I think. It's kind of like Dapper Days, isn't it? Because that's like all... You could just...

You could get away with like Disney bounding Walt for sure. Yeah. It might not be clear what you are exactly but you would know your little pencil thin mustache and is there an iconic walt costume how do you be him well somebody was statues i guess somebody was the person in tokyo was painted like the statue wow like copper yes like somebody you'd see over at the outside the movie theater in burbank doing a dance or something which i see regularly i see lumiere regularly over in burbank like doing a dance outside what yeah a person like dressed sort of like lumiere with like lights there's also like a full-on like

rave light bodysuit man that dances too i gotta say for like as like sleepy downtown burbank you know as as normal as burbank can be the buskers are very odd there's a guy i've seen in front of the amc he'll just he will sing along to music but they're not the karaoke tracks of songs they're the full oh yeah and he just sings over the actual singer sure Yeah, sure. There's a lot going on. Yeah. Yeah. It's jarring. It is the nightlife in Burbank.

You know, you wouldn't think. But on a Friday and Saturday, that place gets going. You could get saved. You could get saved in front of a Skechers. That's true, too. You find Christ, then you go eat raw cookie dough. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's a little too much.

A little too much. Too much. I like that cookie dough business. I give them a year. There's raw cookie dough oh yeah yeah it's a little too much too much i bet cookie dough business i give them a year i there's a cookie dough business yeah you just eat raw cookie dough it's like an ice cream parlor but with just cookie dough they will mix it with ice cream which mike has said is much better than just a raw cookie i have yes is it good no no jason i both excited a friend of mine had said because i was saying oh they're opening this cookie dough place in burbank he goes not it's not good whatever it is he goes it's because they have this has been popping up around america is cookie dough

places much like ice cream you'd see oh m&m cookie dough or yeah yeah whatever sprinkles cookie dough um and i went in there and i ate a little bit of it and i was like oh my god no like it's too much too much sugar way too much sugar too rich too rich it's not like because some cookie dough is they like treat it beyond what regular cookie dough would be yeah well there's no eggs you can't you know they've removed the eggs yeah so that so it's just I can't imagine it's going to last. But it has been popping up. The different places have been popping up.

We better do the episode soon then. Two hours on a cookie dough place? Yeah. That's fine. I imagine we could do it. I can't handle, like, I don't really like liquor neat. Like, I need ice or soda water or something. And I think me,

you were saying if you add ice cream and they mix, mix the ice cream with the cookie dough, it helps a little, but liquor, man. I mean, maybe tequila to that peanut butter. Sure.

Swirl your sprinkles. Yeah. It would be fun if on the train they could, like, if you could have like an old Fashion or like a Manhattan yeah I mean that's the ultimate Sarsaparilla or something

Oh yeah a little selection That's like any ride you can comfortably eat on Eat a drink and like put your feet up They do let you don't they They don't really bother you I'm eating popcorn on there What are they going to do throw me off I dare them to try i'll go on something else you know i got this

tattoo never gotten to the front of the line at big thunder mountain do you always show it i i don't consciously go um but i don't not show it but if you have let me ask you this while walking up have you rolled your sleeve up before well Well, usually I run hot, so I always got short sleeves on. Generally always at Disney. What if it's a real chilly winter day, though? No, I won't make a point to show it. Not if I'm wearing a comfy hoodie or something. I would if I were you.

I would really make a show of it. At least maybe get a sticker. Do you get remarks from the employees? Never. Really? Yeah, nothing. I get more when I wear a button with a birthday. They're just not noticing it then.

They must. You're being too modest. I guess. I don't want to be in your face. I think one day. Yeah, the next time you go, really lay it on thick. Let's just wear a shirt that says, like, ask me about my Disneyland tattoo. Sure.

Oh, yeah. And a big arrow pointing to where it is. Yeah, yeah. I would hope i yeah you deserve more then they'll give you a drink you deserve more for doing that that's what i'm saying yeah sarah's plucky mom and pop operation i'm supporting them they need you as a customer uh so i think we'd be remiss if we didn't talk about how for years the Disneyland Railroad was sponsored by the Atchison, Topeka, and Santa Fe Railway. And as such, the locomotives are named after the former heads of this rail company, CK Holiday. We'd be so remiss.

I can't tell you how remiss we'd be ep ripley fred girley earnest s march and the one allier the most recent train named after former disney employee ward kimball ward kimball and ollie johnson of course expressed the concern about uh the cattle car being dangerous uh you know train enthusiasts ward kimball and ollie johnson helped wall you know learn about trains and and the train community and rebuilding trains and that sort of thing is it like true like i feel like the rides aren't sponsored like they used to be anymore like fedex presents space mount you know i mean is that less like duracell used to be star tours it's not as often ziploc just started sponsoring splash mountain i don't like that that seems cheap like

what a cheap product but they have bags to put your little like your stuff in that's why you get the bags now your little bag my family's been doing for years well before the sponsorship i feel like ziploc doesn't go like ziploc feels like plasticky and then but critter country feels like zippity-doo-dah. Are they taking advantage of that? I don't know. Are they doing Ziplock-y-doo-dah? It just occurred to me now, but it would make a lot of sense, right? I guess Ziplock feels more like a Tomorrowland product.

It is an amazing innovation. I'm still blown away by Ziplock bags is what I'm saying. That feels like a first year disneyland attraction like zip bags you're so zip the bags of the future come to come to zipland you can play with one not take home you could just look at one and handle it and then put it back all right you've had your time five minutes give it back a better spot what would splash mountain the sponsor like like cowhide or something logs firewood dura flame dura flame sponsor yeah that's great you get a little piece of wood on the way out

i always do give you wood no um that's all right but i that's a pretty that's a pretty good deal if you you come back to you i mean you have to like have the patience to carry a log out of disneyland with you yeah but i mean it's a free log people buy clocks and like things that's by framed art yeah yeah but that's but not quite as heavy as a log sorry uh just to correct myself uh emperor Hirohito rode in the Lily Bell in 1975, not 1976. Oh my god. Didn't you say he was the first? He was the first.

Still the first. Just off by one year. And who is Zeus and Hercules again? Riptorn. Okay, just making sure. And did you have a train conductor's hat? Jory's still out, but leaning towards yes this is good we should do recaps uh more often scott this is whether you know the current train

stations were not always the train stations of course there was the frontier land station for a brief time there was the videopolis station oh you know it a little extension of videopolis which there wasn't there was a there used to be a fantasyland one that disappeared entirely and there just wasn't a stop up there for a long time but i think in the effort to like have all the trains running at once they're like well we need more stops to make that possible so you got a little extra videopolis it wasn't like quite there wasn't much aesthetically going on but yeah i just like seeing that word in a second place. My favorites. The Disneyland 80s dance club. Oh. Yeah, that they put up to get the MTV crowd.

That MTV crowd. So when they built Toontown, did they reroute the track? I think they, well, you go like under the train, right? So I think they like just like put, I think they put like foam rubber up uh over the videopolis station essentially oh no i guess the same station the track's been rerouted a number of times yeah over the years they try to not do it that's another that's one of those disneyland 101 things that the train sits atop the berm and there's a lot of stuff you can do construction

wise at disneyland but you can't really move that berm so that's why indiana jones you gotta walk all the way under it and a lot of the rides out there same with pirates haunted mansion with star wars pretty significant that they had to move the train track there's a left turn now the first left turn there is now a left turn left turn um this is not what walt intended there was yeah that's getting the mice chatters. That was an aggressive response that people had when this news was announced. Because they were going to shorten Tom or like shrink Tom Sawyer's island a little bit. And then now the route was going to go in front of the rivers of America. And people were fit to be tied.

They were so upset about this because they thought they were going to lose the island. Right. They thought that this was going to make the whole thing short. They thought Mark Twain was now maybe not even going to happen or it was going to be two minutes long. And they were all wrong. It's beautiful. It's better. It's better.

Yes. It's a Disneyland enhancement. The first time you and I took the new train, that was a great day. I was legitimately impressed. It is prettier. There's new stuff. It's so much more scenic. Yeah.

I love those canoes because I didn't do the canoes for the first time until a couple years ago. And you see more critters than you've ever seen before. Yeah. There's all sorts of critters. A murder beaver. Yeah, the beaver who's chewing on one of the posts holding up the train bridge. That's fun. Yeah.

Good for him. That's a critter I love. Maybe that's my next tattoo. The murder beaver. Ooh. That's a good one. He's industrious. Yeah.

Yeah. He doesn't give a shit about your infrastructure. And he's protecting his. He's providing for his family. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. All of those bodies will soon be in the water for his family to eat. And he'll take their wallets.

Oh, yeah. And their watches. You don't know what good money is for beavers, but shiny coins. They love a shiny coin. Yeah, that's a cool thing for them to build a nest out of. What does a beaver in? Do you guys go to Tom Sawyer Island? Not really.

It's pretty, I think it's a hidden gem. Yeah. There's like scary things in it. Like there's like the actual, more caves, more tunnels. Well,

it's kind of piracy still, right? Or it's pirates layer at Tom Sawyer Island? Yes, I guess it's not Tom Sawyer, Tom Soiler, Tom Sawyer. I saw that.

He can't make the bathroom. He's a Tom Soiler. When he gets too scared yeah uh tom sawyer island is still in orlando and aunt polly's the restaurant on tom sawyer island has reopened up they do like sandwiches on the island they do pretty simple like sandwiches but yeah you're gonna enjoy you know that there now that there's a restaurant on the island yeah i mean i love a restaurant on an island in general yes the restroom on tom sawyer's island should be tom soiler there you go yeah that would be that makes sense and then it's still made like male tom

soilers and female tom soilers yeah yeah yeah uh let me gripe real quick yeah why aren't all the cars why aren't all the seats in all of the cars facing out exactly right because i'm face forward right so why would you ever send those exactly so it's such a bummer when you're waiting for the train and the front facing ones pull up oh i don't know about that what are you talking about well it's a different experience it's a worse, it's a different experience. It's a worse experience. It's a worse experience. It's a hurt your neck. I want to turn to my right. No, thank you. I'm sitting forward. Of course. If you go way to the left and you're trying to see

primeval world, like how that's a pain. Well, maybe that trip you just enjoy the wonders of real travel. Wait, are you telling me no bit that you don't get a little disappointed when you get the Disneyland train with the car that has the front facing seats. No, because I've gone a lot.

So like whatever pulls up, I get in. That's what life has provided and you will accept. I guess that's a Zen way of thinking about it. Very Buddhist. But it's bad. They should have them all front facing. Yeah, I don't know why you would ever want to. I would not be upset if they replaced them all.

But like, I don't mind terribly. I wonder if to. I would not be upset if they replaced them all, but I don't mind terribly. I wonder if they just fit more people with the front-facing ones. What's that? I wonder if they just fit more people in that way. I don't know how that works. That might be right, but who cares? At the very least, they should give you guns or something to interactive shoot things. It should be like a Buzz Lightyear on the train.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, sure, yeah. That's a pretty good plus. Yeah. It gets like, I don't want to shoot a critter, but maybe like some... Bandits? A bandit of some sort. A Billy the Kid, an outlaw.

Would you be comfortable shooting a dinosaur? If it's attacking me. Okay. If it's an aggressive dinosaur do so the train goes really close to a you're kind of looking at some pterodactyls in the distance then all of a sudden ka there's one right in front of your face there's a triangle with a neon lit up triangle on it i'm gonna shoot that fucker yeah yeah you only see triangles i've been on buzz lightyear because when i went with my nephews they were like it was one of the only rides they could do because they were like three

so i've done it like 10 or 20 times and so i know where all the hidden things are the one that's not lit up in the yeah yeah the ceiling ones and yeah yeah i like the thing i'm pretty good at it sure sure um uh what if you could like make you if you like hit a big target that made like a big boulder or that or the made the asteroid fall oh that'd be fun crush the dinosaurs that'd be created the grand canyon there you go the biggest target creates the grand canyon man i mean that would be great i still would i trade uh would i still be okay with the front facing seats if i got guns i'm still trying to think about i guess if you're in the middle with the gun it would be hard to shoot you're not gonna get anything it would be great if you were facing out and had guns.

What if they added a monitor on every car that had Jimmy Fallon in it? Doing like a fun bit or something. I've always loved trains. I definitely, for sure, way before this, loved trains the best. Yeah. Now I'm seeing it and I'm loving it okay in my head oh seeing him in a little conductor yeah he'd be great oh sure the choo-choo song i saw a video uh where rami malik touches his hand like shimmy fallon's hand and he like flinches

i think he does not like being touched or he doesn't like his hand being touched. Look it up. All right. We'll look that up. Is it still sensitive from when he had his accident? Well, he kept having like three, like he fell down three times, right? Yeah. But he got the ring caught on the counter, I think is what that story was.

Was he just like pretty drinking too much? I don't know. All he had was a vodka drink then a whiskey drink then a lager drink then a cider drink all right he's too 90s nostalgic he takes all his uh he takes too many ideas from old songs that's yeah um hey wait speaking of uh train drunkenness the uh the video of when they re-opened the train and they had lassiter in a conductor uniform oh no that's not an image we need when he because he was sort of like he was kind of the pr guy for the train thing and like and really just selling the trains a big part of disneyland we're so excited the train is back but that was like the first that i was like something's up with the last that was your first red flag he's so

he's so red and so puffy because he bought a train that i think ward kimball used to own and they put it on the track for the grand opening this this other train he's a train weirdo too because in that documentary about his house he's got a train going in and out of his room i feel like you can't be into trains and hawaiian shirts it's one or the other interesting too many it's unsettling either trains and then also work in animation no no no what if maybe you could be into like tiki stuff right that's totally fine honestly isn't tiki just cultural appropriation on every level that's a that's a thing i've talked about i'm i like it i have a couple over here but i don't disagree with what you're saying i know i feel like you just even putting this out there is

gonna make it bad so maybe we should cut this out okay cut it out cut it out no no tiki will be over once this podcast the right episode comes out We just killed it Yeah it's over Tiki's cancelled Trader Sam's just becomes Sam's And it's just an old guy No Hi welcome From Cheers?

Yeah it's just Sam from Cheers Can I get you a Labatz? Is this a fake memory I have? I remember the final episode of Cheers Sam takes off his toupee Does he? Is this a memory that I've made up in my brain he he hangs it on the light switch and then turns it off oh this might be one of the stuff you know

sometimes you dream things and then you keep remembering for so long you forget that it was sourced from a dream oh my yeah i think we're talking ted danson i have this vision of it's front of carla and it's like the bar vision of, it's in front of Carla. And it's like the bar is closed and it's like a vulnerable moment that he takes off his toupee. Well, I don't think it's the last scene or anything, but maybe it happens. What if that's how they end the series? I've always thought of Ted Danson as having a very thick head of hair.

Because I know. I've looked it up on YouTube. Couldn't find anything. So maybe I'm insane. That sounds familiar, but I don't know that that's a cheap. I found a picture. So maybe I'm insane. That sounds familiar, but I don't know that that's a cheap. I found a pic. Here's Sam holding hair. That's just what it looks like.

It's just hair he found. Okay. He's just doing a DNA test. I think you're mixing stuff. Maybe you're mixing stuff. I might be mixing things up. She's like shocked. But yeah, he has his hair still in that.

All right. Or maybe I'm just mixing things up. I usually don't like to share dreams I had had but i remember i shared on the show a dream i had about booking hotel reservations this is a different dream i had last night i just remembered it it was that i would i was going into the star wars hotel that's being built in orlando that's gonna be very immersive and you won't even see any windows outside and it was so the dream was so methodical and unpleasant that like like they transported us to the hotel somehow with magic but then all of a sudden i had no clothes on and we just got thrown into showers whoa like a weird like bio matrix type thing where

it's all of a sudden like we're all like nude and going like hustled somewhere like 12 monkeys yes time travel like and i woke up with like i had a little headache when i went to bed but i woke up with a bad headache so i had like a stress dream about a very realistic space hotel that i went to and like going through what you'd actually have to do to go to a space hotel and get like decontaminated before you went on a space station. Too much attention to detail. Yes. Like all this stuff off camera that like Poe Dameron or Leia had to go through in A New Hope where they are tortured off camera. That is what you experienced. Oh, and Han gets.

Oh, and Han, of course. Yeah. I think you were thinking, well, Han gets tortured in Empire. I don't acknowledge the actual terrifying torture that happens to all of our favorite characters. Right. When they're not swinging lightsabers around. I hate to share a dream, but this is very quick and stupid. Please.

I would be excited for movies. I would dream them before I saw them. And I was at the time very excited for the Flintstones movie. Who wasn't? How are they going to realize this? What's it going to look like? I can't imagine but in my dream the movie was a concert film of flintstones on ice and i was so disappointed i was like that

is the worst possible version of the flintstones movie was a concert film of the flintstones on ice is flintstones on ice real? No, I don't think so. That's what I was wondering. As we see, I have an active, inaccurate, imagined brain. Well, I mean, there was at Universal Hollywood, there was a Flintstones restaurant for an obscenely long time. Like when I first went in 2006,

it was kind of a stand. I think we all want that big ribs, those big ribs, right? I guess that, yeah. It was barbecue, right? There were so many sitting out in the sun just rotting away. It was a gross restaurant. And you'd walk by and you'd get hit with that smell.

You'd get hit with the bad barbecue smell. There was a cloud of it just on the main hub when you were walking in. And it was by a midway, too. It was by games and stuff. Is this in Orlando? No, it's here. No, this was Hollywood. It's the entrance.

It's exactly like where Harry Potter entrance is now. It was this big Flintstones thing. Wow, I missed that. Flintstones on Ice is just Fred eating the big rack of ribs with no dialogue or music. And then just sauce splattering on the ice. And he yells at Wilma to go away. Trying to get some peace.

There would have to be like little animals as the skates, though, too. That were acting as the skates. Oh, yeah. Like an upside down baby stegosaurus or something. Oh, no. Jesus. Like biting it with his teeth. He doesn't understand.

This is the most unpleasant Flintstones job. A baby who's being crushed by a fat man who's with his teeth just grinding. But it's a living, Scott. It's a living. He says it with a lot more fear. It's a living. I guess it's a living.

I guess it's a living. My Pillsbury Doughboy impression, too. What else trained? What did we miss? New Orleans Square Station plays as the Morse code of the opening day speech. Oh yeah.

Set it. Very good. Facts. Hit us. Hit us. Wrap it now. They traded one of the original train called

the Ward Kimball. They traded to Cedar Point for a different item. Oh. Fact. Yeah. Items. Item trades.

Do you guys, we've kind of skipped around primeval world can i say one more thing about it which is i think it's um do you guys get is this just me or do you get this feeling when you you essentially watch like some dinosaurs just living living their lives and then they've there's not enough water and they're lapping it up and those kind of scary emaciated dinosaurs are trying to get the last few drops yeah and then scary uh tyrannosaurus scene and it feels very like apocalyptic like comets coming do you do you get this vibe because it gets so scary do you get this weird narrative feeling of like well let that be a lesson what the like the dinosaurs brought this upon themselves

it's a lesson for us not for them no i know i think it's like telling us these dinosaurs were fucked up and they deserve what's what they're getting it's a dread from when i watch what should the dinosaurs have done differently that's what i can't figure out yeah i'm not sure i guess yeah they they want to have more water um they should have been beavers well most people should be beavers yeah i guess so is there any way to do that i didn't know that the music that's playing is from the movie the mysterious island which is a different movie than island at the top of the world both movies made by walt disney uh studios oh well we know where the island on the top of the

world is it's on top of the world mysterious island could be anywhere oh yeah that that it's more open-ended there's a weird connection because uh mysterious island based loosely on the jules verne uh book and island at the top of the world was going to be a big influence in discovery bay which got and the the lack of success for that i do love that music though because it is that has that 50s dramatic of like oh my god there's dinosaurs and like but then post drastic park i feel we're more into like the wonder and it's either wonder or horror but the the music in primeval world feels more like spectacular spectacle or all yeah kind of kind of godzilla ish a little bit like big

timpani the big old drums and like kind of booming oh my god speaking of drums and dinosaurs then jurassic park if they get rid of those drums before the t-rex drop you know in the jurassic park ride yeah yeah they're amazing it's literally the drums i see what you're saying if they get rid of those drums i'm gonna be livid don't know don't know what the drum plan is oh yeah i there look i'm on the inside universal message board a lot but there has not been a lot of talk about the drums and will they stay the jeep doesn't have to drop just keep those drums that jeep didn't work for a long time i feel like that was a very inconsistent jeep yeah uh but maybe i would

say let's put like a chris pratt animatronic playing drums to really make like where is it coming from oh he's like rocking out like he twiddles up drumstick beforehand yeah it's real cool a mouse rat reference yeah or bryce dallas how's there with her arms crossed Shaking her head Get a load of him I hope there's a ton of Bryce Dallas Howard Animatronics and a ton of Chris Pratt It's just gonna be on screens Do you want a little spoiler? Yes

Audience spoiler alert I probably said it on the show already There's gonna be a dinosaur fight at the end now What? It's T-Rex versus whatever that big one was from the first one. And they're both real dinosaurs. Oh, that's fun. Yeah, I'm into that.

They're both real dinosaurs. They're real, yeah. They've gone mad. They just made Jurassic Park? It's actually everything. They've learned nothing. Yep. And they just have a collar around them and they just pull them back each time.

That's not going to work. They said it's fine. They said it worked once. So it's okay. They can't get a Jeep to work. They're going to do this? They need to beat Rise of the Resistance. So they're just going to open it and see what happens.

They just want to beat them to the marketplace. Make a real Indominus Rex. Here's the thing I like on the train. Seeing into Splash Mountain. Yes. Because sometimes in the year Splash Mountain is closed for maintenance. Well, it's not running. It's closed for maintenance.

But sometimes it's just too cold to ride Splash Mountain. Right. And I just want to see the big riverboat sequence. I love that riverboat. What a joyful. That's so Muppety. Yeah. Oh, very much so. Absolutely. Just a bunch of animals singing. I don't like those cats, though. I find them unsettling. They're a little...

They're just weird. I don't know. They just feel off to me. Not critters. Cats aren't critters? Not in my book. No, they probably are critters. But what if they're f weird i don't know they just feel off to me not critters cats aren't my book no they probably are critters what if they're feral cats i would call those yeah i call them critters but as soon as they're adopted they're no longer a critter right they're dead to us what you know how we could figure out what critters are what animals were the capital critters? Oh, boy. Oh, God. Do you know what I'm talking about? Aren't those rats? A bunch of sharks, if Washington has any indication. Well, we'll look up capital critters.

Are you looking up capital critters, Scott? I am. But, you know, I shouldn't just Google. We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out later. We'll do our Patreon. Capital critters episode. Oh, boy.

Deep dive. I'm really scraping the bottom, bro. capital critters and fish police um oh boy uh you know what i also like that uh um that grand canyon uh music when you come in don't don't oh yeah that's like classical music i think isn't it or it's well it's something like that or i didn't recognize the name of it i'm not sure i like that though that that's that's one of those good i like that there's so much like 50s 60s music being played on kooky instruments there at disneyland and uh that's some of it it's like a radio it's the music you would hear in a radio play about a cowboy going down the trail oh yeah

somebody going into some weird little mcmom and pops shop uh some weird little like saloon or general store or something let's go buy some fiber raw fiber music for it that's what you do when a cowboy was taking a load off yeah i need an empty jug sure a lot of rope a bindle there's some's some charts on a bunch of Wikipedia pages about like transportation stuff has charts sometimes of the routes. Oh, yeah. And it was pointing out that like, well, technically you can disembark the train and transfer to the monorail in Tomorrowland and vice versa. You could disembark in Tomorrowland on the monorail and then get on the train like you

were, you know, transfer transfer or a bus to train. A transfer. And I thought that was very novel. Huh. That's fun. Yeah. If you take, all right, I'm taking the train from New Orleans Square to Tomorrowland, transferring to the monorail.

And going to Ralph Brennan's Jazz Kitchen. As far as Jazz Kitchen goes, Ralph Brennan's got the best one. Gotta be. Certainly in the conversation. I bet there's an Emeril out there that's given him a run for his, in terms of labeled jazz, name labeled jazz kitchens. Emeril Lagasse's Jazz Kitchen? I bet there's one. A blues patio?

I don't know. Here's something for me to research. Are the beignets better at the Ralph Brennan's quick service than the research are the beignets better at the ralph brennan's quick service than the new orleans square beignets i do love seeing just blasts of powdered sugar on the ground around the outside where you just see like people have like just making a mess sure i like those i'm not a big fan of them uh alcohol-free mint juleps what's the point yeah it's kind of a minty like i might as well mouthwash yeah that's it's got to change when star wars land rolls around we've talked about it just

have it be all alcohol right isn't orlando all disneyland you could drink everywhere uh you can't walk around with it in in magic there's some restaurants but there's a lot of restaurants where you can get wine and beer that's my christian scientist thing it's some weird message message board walt wouldn't want stuff he wouldn't want gay days either but we got that yes but that was a fit disney like only officially recognizing it like and people have snuck in alcohol for years and they still don't call it like gay day they still like uh maybe do they say even pride maybe it's unofficial it's still but like it's still like and in fine print it technically says you chose to be gay oh i see but they've been marketing rainbow a lot jesus is crying day yeah they certainly

merchandised it absolutely yeah but my favorite is seeing like straight guys who accidentally wore red that day like very aggressively holding their girlfriend's hands i've seen that a few times i once i actually uh andy richter told me that he did that one time he wore the gay day color and i had a gay i think i feel like i heard that story too and he was down there with andy daly with their kids and they're like look at this beautiful couple. That's a good couple. Yeah. Sure. The, oh yeah, but Walt, that weirdness. You know what Walt would want is to make a lot of money.

Yeah, right. That's the number one thing Walt would want. He would like to profit. Yeah. Unions. Sure. He'd be very happy with the pay structure, I'm sure. Yeah, yeah. he'd be very happy with the pay structure i'm sure yeah yeah although maybe if maybe if walt came back from the dead on on gay day saw that there was alcohol available in one small section of disneyland

in this one cantina and ogre's cantina which you have to get to past or rearranged rivers of america he would go apeshit and start sawing down that train track just like the he'd be joining the beaver yeah yeah yeah like get me in on that entire train derails i mean bob eiger would not be allowed to drive the train nowadays because of like osha like when when the mark twain first opened they weren't sure how many they could fit on it and almost capsized a couple of times. My God. Because they tried to squeeze 500 people on it. I think 300 is max capacity now.

If I look like I'm going to be number 101, I'm not getting on that thing. Why do I want to be crowded on a boat? I mean, it is a leisurely boat ride. I have to agree. But I don't want to be packed like a sardine. I want to be able to like walk around. You want to kind like a sardine. I want to be able to walk around. You want kind of a porch to yourself. I want a mosey.

Yeah. What a strange. I don't want to be crammed onto the Mark Twain. Sure. Yeah. You want to feel like you're on that carnival shit cruise or whatever. Right? I think they should bring back selling refreshments on the Mark Twain.

That'd be fun. That would be fun. Even just chips and soda. They should give them water guns, water pistols. They could shoot the crowd. Oh, sure. Oh, that'sain. That'd be fun. That would be fun. Even just chips and soda. They should give them water guns, water pistols. They could shoot the crowd. Oh, sure. Oh, that's fun. Yeah, it should be nice.

It'd be like refreshing a little. I don't know why I have this 12-year-old boy's idea. A little prankster. And stink bombs. And stink bombs. Yeah. Everyone gets a slingshot. Yeah.

To tie it back to, well, the potential injuries and Walt'sz inflection inflicting train uh injuries that the one fact we missed uh with the sordid history of train accidents is that his backyard train the carol wood uh at one point derailed uh the derailing didn't hurt anybody but as it derailed the like steam thing broke and like started just shooting steam cope hot steam copiously across his backyard and a five year old girl got burnt in the leg and that was what made him go

maybe I should run my train in a more professional environment not just in my backyard but I feel like see let someone else drive it right wasn't that part oh maybe I don't think it was him. It was that mysterious man again. Oh, no, that barman.

Walt into disguise, yeah. Why do we keep letting that guy drive the trains? The wood man. But if that little girl hadn't gotten burnt, maybe there wouldn't be a Disneyland. Imagine how wealthy you'd be now if you got scalded by Walt Disney. I want half.

All right, fine. Thank you. We'll list which characters I own. And Epcot. I want Epcot. So do we have any other history? Do we have any plus ups? I mean, I really like the plus ups that they've done.

And I really like that diorama and the little plus ups to the diorama i want more little things to happen along the route like not a ton i don't want it to get gimmicky but little stuff happening along the autotopia side is kind of disappointing yes yeah that's the least that's kind of the worst stretch in terms of yeah unique little things unless you're passing by a parade that's about to go, which you can see some videos of. And they'll wave at you. Yeah. Uh-huh. Like the inside out characters or whatever. Yeah. You get a little

private parade. The forest could be thicker as far as looking out onto like normal land. Yeah. You know, sometimes you can see too much outside. I don't care for that. I want to be immersed uh so more trees if that's possible might not be possible yeah that's star wars forest and the the the forest dividing frontier land and start star wars it's gonna take a few years for that to grow in yeah that needs to grow in a little more i get it takes time you know in 20

years maybe i'll be very satisfied with the thickness of the forest. Give it time. But now I'm not. I'm not happy with it. I think more... Add a couple more cars on and let's get some of these... Let's get some drinks in there. Let's get some premium experiences going.

Like a gambling car. A gambling... Now you're talking. A roulette. Yes. A roulette car. Now you get... Walt would not have wanted drinking or gambling but he's dead so let's do it fuck him yeah let's get a high stakes dance going on

booby girls yeah that's let's do all i don't think that's their official title but no i close quarters they're like yep they're their butts are in your face yep that'll be hello well you want they own fx now so we could get a Fosse Verdun tie in or some rescue me cast members oh man those like attractive actresses

um they save the the train catches on fire and oh they put out the burn yeah that's the Dennis Leary's rescue he they put out the burning. Yeah, that's the. Dennis Leary's rescue is putting out the burning cab. That's why. Available on Blu-ray. Don't know what this is?

Look it up, kids. The train is racing the Mayans Motorcycle Club. Oh, no. Uh-oh, but the Sons of Anarchy are here to save you. Archer could be gambling and drinking on that train car. What will he say? He's outrageous. Some messed up.

How about on the end of the train, too, one of those hobo things where you pull. Oh, that'd be fun. What do you call that? The two-sided thing. Like a push cart or something? And that would be like a sought-after car. Obviously, you'd have to be harnessed in or something. Maybe just have, you know what?

It might be too unsafe for guests. So just have some like hobo character actors on the back doing that behind the train. Well, there is one of those parked at Main Street. Yeah, but I want to see it in action. You want to see it move. Okay. Yeah. I want to see that.

That's fun, I think. Absolutely. Yeah. I just want that cabin on fire again cabin on fire for sure cabin back on fire and do some with autotopia are you a pro get rid of it i mean i never go on it yeah well it's uh you will fuck your leg up as an adult or at least i do the last two times i end up so sore yeah because you have to push really hard and you're like you're weird and cramped your leg is like it is a weird i guess

it's for children or something it is for children who just want to pretend that they're driving and it always seems to be popular so i'm like i'm one of those like not everything has to appeal to me yeah yeah you're like i'm okay if there's something in there that doesn't appeal to me but i don't know it just does seem like it seems like very 90s now and if there's something in there that doesn't appeal to me. But I don't know. It just does seem like it seems like very 90s now. And just there's nothing nostalgic about it. I mean, at least not to me. But then if it's nostalgic to you, if that's if you were a kid when you first did it, I guess.

Is there can they like reduce the footprint? Can they make it smaller? Like the Disney Land Railroad? I think that would be a lot of money. Yeah. I mean, it's just it doesn't look very nice. It smells bad. You just go through trees.

It's not like I'm plussing it up. You just go through trees. It's noisy. I'm not even plussing it up. It's noisy. You just go through trees. There's nothing happening. I mean, that uses so much gasoline, and the subs use so much water. It's not the most environmentally conscious area of the park. It's the most wasteful area. So maybe they just get rid of them and put in solar panels?

Sure. Just a field of solar panels? Yeah. That's it? And you just look at them? Brought to you by AOC? Oh, sure. solar panels yeah that's it and you just look at it brought to you by aoc it was oh sure i don't want her values destroying the disneyland i love her values it was gonna go away when they when the first that supposed first round of star wars plans oh yeah it's gonna be a speeder bike through

indoor yeah what are they gonna do yeah oh my god there's so much you could do there it was gonna be interventions was taken out and then autopia and it was gonna be a speeder bike that went in and out and then that over there would be like the forests of endor and you go through but it seems like star wars land is bigger than tomorrowland oh well yeah yeah yeah everything there right oh i don't because if it's's bigger than Hogwarts, Hogwarts is probably about as big as Tomorrowland, isn't it? You think? It's bigger than Hogwarts.

Yeah, so Hogsmeade, most of them are about 12 acres and Galaxy's Edge is going to be like 14 acres. So it is bigger. It's bigger than Radiator Springs. Mm-hmm. So, yeah.

So, pretty big. Pretty big. I mean, we always talk about like Tomorrowland should be the next thing to get redone. guess yeah what do you do just a past version of the future just neon we've said

neon lights something yeah neon tranny like a shitty bar sure fine fine it's better than what they got now dive bar land okay yeah sure A like B minus dive bar is better than what they got now dive bar land okay yeah sure you're like a like b minus

dive bar is better than a lot of tomorrowland currently that's true there's not much going i like i just like uh space mountain and uh star tours there will be a time i think and it probably won't be for 10 years but where you will just have one narrow walkway to space mountain and everything else is under construction my god very much like california adventure was for years yeah star tours gone buzz light you're gone all of it and they'll do a full-on re-conceptualization they're building a restaurant in epcot of um that's like a space station like you look at these massive high def screens that look like you were eating that's fun so maybe like you spiral out from space mount take inspiration from space mountain and build out from there like well what else is

like because in the line for space mountain you see like the hubs and you know yes the other that's a good idea the problem is i guess it's like a mail it's like a post office intergalactic post office i guess it is what we want to do get a letter stamp from you buy some stamps in space the problem is it's all it it'll be IP based, unfortunately. And what, they don't really have anything. What, Tomorrowland? There's no good space IP. Nobody cares about Tron.

But that coaster's good. They built one of the coasters in Florida. Yeah. So maybe we, and believe me, the Jared Leto Tron reboot is coming. With Jared Leto? Who's he going to be? He's Flynn's, I don't know. On the ride where you.

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Yeah, I know. I get a little weird dread from that. It makes you feel like you're in trouble. Yep. I mean, it's cool that it's scary. I like that it's scary, but it is scary. It's a weird kind of scary man announcement voice. Because it is like a quality of a voice you'd hear in the Haunted Mansion or something.

That's why it is one of the voices in the Haunted Mansion. Who did it? I was looking it up. I couldn't tell. There's a guy named Jack Wagner and there's a guy named Peter Renaday and there's conflicting information about which one it is. Well, Jack Wagner was a guy called the voice of Disneyland for a lot of times. Peter Renaday, a very good voice imitator.

He was the guy who came up on 20,000 Leagues. He was imitating James Mason. Oh, gotcha. And he's Mark Twain on the Mark Twain. Yeah. And he's Henry in the Country Bird Jamboree. I think it is Peter Renaday, not Jack Wagner. I was very disappointed at the Internet's information on this subject.

And I will not have this reflect on my record. And on our star rating on iTunes. The information wasn't there. It could be Renaday doing Jack Wagner. That's it. It's Renaday. Which is my guess. They couldn't afford Jack Wagner.

No, I think he's long dead. Maybe they blended the two, you know, like Rey and Force Awakens. my guess they couldn't afford jack wagner no i think he's long dead it's the uh maybe they blended the two you know like uh ray and force awakens you know how they used all three they used like four different ben kenobi's or the or bb8 is a bunch of people crazy oh yeah ben schwartz and bill hater mm-hmm yeah and all and all of us audience might not know we also we've done for episode nine we did some we can announce it Mike, Jason, and I all did some. We're all BB-8 beep and boom. We got paid with exposure? That was a

little weird to hear from JJ Abrams, that, like, this will be great for you guys. We're out of money. You don't know how, like, you might get a lot of other work doing bleeps and bloops. Yep. Jason is BB-8 when he gets flustered. Yeah. His flustered beats Yeah Son of a bitch

God damn it But once you run it through the filters you can't tell it's swearing Yep Sounds just right So What do you got? I don't really have anything I like that voice

The voice is fantastic Oh well there's some fun YouTube videos of train enthusiasts Talking about the Disneyland Railroad so keep an eye out for them you said these were nice old videos what's that i don't doubt that they're videos i just thought that they're fun videos uh i think they're fun all right because they seem to be really enjoying it like they enjoy sharing their knowledge and yeah train people seem to to like they're connecting like and then the original cars are at this exhibit and this museum and this ranch and that sort of thing. More knowledgeable than I am about the full lineage of the train.

Jason, can I give you a quick Sophie's Choice? Better train, Disneyland Railroad or Casey Jr.? Oh, I think you got to go Disneyland Railroad. Okay. I thought it was going to be Cumber. Casey Jr. is pretty novel, but you can't beat that grand circle tour okay i once rode on casey jr and uh during the rain it was great and i've also been on it during the fireworks oh that's fantastic that was amazing you're right in the thick yeah yeah it was great

i've done it at night it is a night it's a nice little trip. Like Mario Kart. Yeah. Oh, neat. Like you just won. I just won. I'm on Rainbow Road or something, you know? So, Casey Jr. during the fireworks and Jason Stipp do a five quarters train trip. To vote 45 minutes. Be like Jason, five fourths. Hey, I just realized, is there a Casey Jr. sequence in the Tim Burton Dumbo? I believe there is. I don't know the details, but there's

they're selling a popcorn tub. The audience will know by the time this comes out. Dumbo at Disneyland. That seems like a dark movie to me. I don't, yeah, I don't. Weird vibes around that one. An hour and a half of it is the crows. No! Why would they do more

crows? They lay too hard in the wrong direction. They lock the theater doors you can't leave oh my god keep watching those um that's an unpleasant way to end talk about those crows do you know what's really funny is that is the let's let's get ready for dumbo you heard that in an ad it's michael buffer this is i'm dreaming it unless this is my dream sorry let's get ready for dumbo i have no i have not seen that that's wild really fans love the movie is buffer in it i don't know might just be his voice or they dub michael keaton with michael buffers or they just got it sound like paid him 50 bucks and then Michael Buffer is like shaking his fist at the sky.

Could it be Peter Renaday? Peter Renaday doing an impression of Jack Wagner doing an impression of Michael Buffer. You scamp. You done it again, Renaday. You done it again, Rennie. Thanks for being here. Mark Rennie, you survived Podcast The Ride. Thank you for having me. This was a dream.

One I do know is real. Yay. Well, where can people find you or what exit through the gift shop or what do you get to plug i you could find me just at mark renny twitter and scram i don't post a lot so it's not an imposition i don't think um i have a show if you're in los angeles may 12th mother's day it's called those magnificent moms but i host it with my actual mother and it's a bunch of comedians doing bits with their actual moms oh fine it's a good time oh great great yeah may 12 7 30 sure yeah it's a great show um unless you have that that's it for the plugs that's it no more plugs game of throne i do not write on game of thrones i write on write on the Gay of Thrones. Funny or Dies Gay of Thrones with Jonathan from Queer Eye.

Coming back soon because the television show is coming back soon. Yeah, I think our first episode will be the Monday or Tuesday after the premiere. Great. Cool. Yeah, fun show. Us, Podcast to Ride at Gmail, Podcast to ride facebook group there's a red we have a subreddit we have uh what else we have twitter and instagram public patreon.com slash podcast the ride a lot of fun crazy crap on the patreon mcgruff music career uh you know a bunch of other

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