Podcast: The Ride - Disney's Aladdin: A Musical Spectacular with Paul Rust

Episode Date: June 28, 2019

Paul Rust (Love, In Voorhees We Trust with Gourley and Rust) joins us to discuss the retired DCA musical, emotional childhood vacations, and topical references. Isn't that right, BRITNEY SPEARS? List...en to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus Typhoon Lagoon episode up at The Second Gate: https://www.Patreon.com/podcasttheride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 FOREVER! DOG! Can special guest Paul Rust escape the cave of topical jokes? Find out as we cover Aladdin, a musical spectacular on Podcast The Ride, the podcast hosted by a crazier cast of characters than the Jersey Shore. My name is Mike Carlson. Hold for applause. That would have killed in the Hyperion Theater. Yes, yeah. That would have killed In the Hyperion theater Yes yeah There's many Jersey Shore jokes in The Aladdin
Starting point is 00:01:09 A musical spectacular show Yeah but joining me as always Jason Sheridan Yeah Scott you had a joke too Did you want to do it? Oh I was just going to say that we all the three of us love Theme parks so much without them our lives Would be empty like kim
Starting point is 00:01:25 kardashian's head which is a real verbatim joke yep that's right from one of the shows and i just want to say that i'm glad we're finally doing this attraction so we can answer the question of if the dress is black and blue or white and yellow yet another real joke from the show all delights i'm in such a good mood already yeah this is good uh joining us let's introduce our guest he wants to get in on this topical fun uh you know him from netflix's love ladies and gentlemen paul rust yeah let's chomp it at the bit there my gosh. Once you start spouting genie lines, everybody wants to join the party. I had a potential intro for you, which is our guest today. He's a great guy.
Starting point is 00:02:12 He's not an exotic mammal like Snooki. Oh, my God. That is also a verbatim joke that I found. The first time I was made aware that you were very into this show too Is when Jason and I were on Herald Night like seven, six years ago And Neil Campbell was giving us notes And I had told a story in the monologue about seeing this show And he was like, oh, Paul loves the Aladdin show at Disney's California Adventure
Starting point is 00:02:39 Well, that's awesome because then that means that was like my ticket to get on your guys' podcast Years ago, planting the seeds before it even existed Well, that's awesome because then that means that was like my ticket to get on your guys' podcast. Yeah. Years ago, planting the seeds before it even existed. And it was watered over the last years and then the stem came out and now it's in full bloom. It's awesome. Yeah. Full plant today. Do you remember what your story was that you told about the Aladdin stage show? I think I was just telling like a general story
Starting point is 00:03:05 about how I was obsessed with it and how a lot of the jokes would sort of not even really relate to Aladdin. Like I think the thing I said specifically, which I had just seen was, there was a line from Aladdin and then Genie just turned to the audience and said, Snooki.
Starting point is 00:03:19 And that was it. And I loved it. Everyone who's ever been with me there didn't love it. Yeah. Because I would drag everyone. You would drag it every time it went. You would say, well, we could go by that. We could go see a lab.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Yeah. Which is what you do with all the weird bullshit there. The mad tea party. I love the mad tea party. Mickey bangs on a big drum. We got to go. I do. Well, Mickey drumming is one of the best things you can see in the park when he's
Starting point is 00:03:45 a guy in the suit with the drum he's really drumming it's great it's uh miles teller in there trade for whiplash he was the mickey drummer i can get the drumming out without the paparazzi yeah you can do it in a mickey suit then you can do it in front of jk simmons right but no i think you are hitting on what is the delight of the aladdin if you're a if you're a comedy fan and a particular fan of a particular type of comedy you uh you get it in spades at the aladdin stage show that is my favorite part as well as the uh are the the ones that don't even genie well at all. No, and just the I mean, I feel like they have a parallel or
Starting point is 00:04:30 an antecedent in the spoof movies of Friedberg and Setzer. Yeah, I love those and I would go and see them on uh opening weekend i love them so much uh really wow you went to the theater yeah wow i'd uh pay actual money uh
Starting point is 00:04:55 we're talking like epic movie date movie disaster movie yeah other things started using the movie title premise so then they like ducked and Date movie, disaster movie. Okay, yeah. Meet the Spartans. Yeah, other things started using the movie title premise. So then they like ducked and weaved and got out of it. And with things like Meet the Spartans, so that they weren't associated with that trend anymore. They started like hiding what they were doing. Yeah, because they took it from,
Starting point is 00:05:20 they were writers on Scary Movie. Oh yeah, two of the seven writers. Yes, yeah. It's kind of actually a it. Two of the seven writers. Yes, yeah. It's kind of actually a funny joke of all the things they ever did. That one's sort of funny. Well, with those movies, I would always be like, they'd be like, I'd be like, I love them. And people would be like, well, ironically, right?
Starting point is 00:05:40 I'm like, I don't think so. I'm laughing in the same way that I laugh at other stuff. So, I'm not going to judge it. I'm not going to try to analyze it. If you're getting joy from it and laughing, then you can't intellectualize that too much. And I would lose my mind at the genies jokes. The one I most remember, I felt like I wanted to spew it out as soon as you guys were all saying there.
Starting point is 00:06:01 So, maybe I should save it because it's the only one I totally remember without having rewatched videos. Oh, I, well, just have it. Yeah. The genie comes out and he sticks his, he was like a, he was able to stick his belly out, like push it out tight and do a big ball. And he was like,
Starting point is 00:06:19 I'm feeling like Britney. And he looked down and he went, oops, I did it again. I'm not like Britney. And he looked down and he went, oops, I did it again. I'm not going to lie. I'm laughing at that. I don't quite understand it. It looks like what Mike said. They're just graspy. They're just graspy, yes.
Starting point is 00:06:38 It's just a reference that the audience recognizes. And then he says it in a funny way because they are good performers. I will argue they are pretty good performers yeah yeah but then that that has evolved like towards the end of the run the britney joke was like uh or as they as britney says in her vegas show and he like moves his mouth but no words come out like she's lip syncing britney's been a real Source of humor For that Aladdin scene A real jam And the Kardashians The Kardashians Dr. Phil
Starting point is 00:07:07 And Snooki Oh okay Snooki Dr. Phil Justin Bieber Who were all Who all also factor Into the epic movie
Starting point is 00:07:15 And That's true Into those Yeah And those spoof movies Are the same sort of thing Where it's like There's not always
Starting point is 00:07:20 A joke there It'll just be like Borat is over there In a swimsuit. You remember? Remember that? We all laughed at that the first time. It's a little...
Starting point is 00:07:30 I think what it is, it's like when you're a kid and at school, you have a talent show and then people do like Wayne and Garth. Yes, yeah, yeah. They'll be like, Wayne's world. You're like, well, I guess this is comedy. We've seen this before. So, we all agree. We touched on this a little bit when we talked about the Bill and Ted show at Universal Studios,
Starting point is 00:07:51 Halloween Horror Nights, sort of in a similar vein. But how, I mean, first of all, my whole, like, I've been mad ever since about when I was in middle school and somebody, I worked really hard on a sketch that I wrote that was original. And then the most popular kid in school just got up and said i'm austin powers yeah baby and everybody went ape shit and i probably should have learned some lesson from that but instead i went the other way and got really furious and stayed furious but there's another one i'm less mad at this one because the guys were were fun uh nice guys and they they did it well but this but this probably places my exact high school year that
Starting point is 00:08:25 people killed at the talent show when you're singing the Trogdor song from Homestar Runner. Wow. Is anybody else a Homestar Runner? No. It really blew up my high school in particular. But less
Starting point is 00:08:41 mad at that one. Austin Powers, come on. Yeah, because with Homestar, you're like, okay, you were at least inside enough to pick up. Yeah, you're showing that you know this slightly deep thing. If you breathe air, you breathe Austin Powers. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he didn't even do the voice good. He barely committed.
Starting point is 00:08:59 He did not study the British Isles. Austin Powers' voice also heavily featured in the run of the genie yeah yeah sure like you just yeah it's like a living um uh caricature stand at a theme park you know when you walk by and you see like they always have an austin powers they always have a tom cruise oh yeah they look like really gross yeah when i'd walk by a caricature stand, I'd be like, I'm repeating a joke I say to my friends, guys. It's pretty cool. I'd go, guys, it's so nice that Tom Cruise has stopped by every caricature stand in America. And that Mike Myers comes in costume as Austin Batlers is really nice, too.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Give us artist practice. costume as Austin Batler. This is really nice too. There is a particular, I guess this is its own genre of theme park, is the live performance. I know you guys have done Terminator. Yes. And that one is more the voices are recorded and they just
Starting point is 00:10:00 have to mime. Yes. Aladdin is the actual, they are speaking. So, you get that yeah yeah and singing yeah yes and singing yeah and flying showing you that they thought of stuff that day which is like you know you can roll your eyes at some of these jokes that they are like including things that just happened uh it's probably fairly unprecedented in yeah like a group of writers off stage who like if something just pops up in the last hour, we gotta... I have information
Starting point is 00:10:27 on this, on the process. Real quick, let's go back in case no one knows what we're talking about. Aladdin, a musical spectacular, ran from January 2003 to January 2016 at Disney's California Adventure 13 years. An impressive run. Thanks, Trump.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Ten months later, he would be elected. 2016 ruined everything. Almost replaced in 2010 by a Toy Story musical. Oh, yeah. Which was shelved and then now replaced by Frozen. Yeah. That's where the toys go. Yeah, Woody and Buzz put back on the shelf.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Which is the rumor of what's going to happen. We're still deep in the rumor of potentially Country Bears goes away in favor of a... It's been away in Disneyland for a long time. And in Disney World, it might get replaced with a Toy Story thing. So, we seem glum today. When I walked in, I noticed all the lights were off and there was candles lit. You guys were talking. We were wearing shrouds.
Starting point is 00:11:27 So, it was awake. It was kind of awake. Kind of awake. Kind of sitting Shiva. You don't usually sit Shiva before the death, but we were getting ahead of it. So, I'm watching Liver Lips McGraw. You had some time. Liver Lips McGraw.
Starting point is 00:11:38 But yeah. Speaking of seeing movies in theaters, I saw country bears movie in in the theater because i was like this is the last time there's gonna be a full-on people in suit movie the rest of my time anytime now that there's gonna be creatures they'll be either cg or half cg i guess uh we had on car and car yeah yeah yeah so yeah country bears i feel like we're the last time we really could get entirely full suit yeah last time we went full suit uh and then you know that there was like a warehouse that was really unpleasant and like costumes dripping with sweat and uh i i would really well i don't i feel like can you imagine like the process
Starting point is 00:12:25 yeah the physical like putting those things together and uh uh i said there was a guy who worked at conan who built all the suits for terminator terminator uh ninja turtles three and he had a picture of like like i don't want to say sweat shop it's not a sweat shop and that there's a bad types of labor being just like yes yeah yeah so much sweat yeah yeah just like costume after costume like it's racks of 70 of them it seemed so intense wow just reeking of uh bo yeah yeah sure like in the suits had to like go out of commission for a couple days once they were worn for a couple hours there's some just shredded, some gotten rid of. Who shredded them? Who's around?
Starting point is 00:13:08 I think I might know one guy. I had to pick. The Chewy suit, when you hug Chewy at Disneyland, there's a musky. There's some sort of a, not necessarily, it's the suit that smells, not the human, I think. But there's something. Grandma's basement sort of situation. Something not necessarily it's the suit that smells not the human I think it's but there's something grandma's basement yeah something's going on there
Starting point is 00:13:29 yeah he's hugged a lot of people and he's a tall college student that's like six eight what do you think is the process of cleaning for those do you it's a good question I don't Disneyland has to have its own dry cleaning thing yeah for sure like go off campus.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Send it home with the guy. They wait until they get back from college break. This guy comes in with a laundry basket. He's like, thanks, Mom. I'm happy to do it. It's just nice having you here. I'm happy to clean any Minnie Mouse outfits you want me to. Just throw it in. Throw it in with my
Starting point is 00:14:03 stuff. I'll fold it. Your dad's stuff is in there, too. It's okay. I thought it made sense to group it in with my stuff Your dad's stuff is in there too Thought it made sense to group it in with the towels Same kind of fabric Oh you can toss anything in with the towels That's fine Wait what do you think Of Country Bears there's been this debate On the show and our friend Doug Jones really
Starting point is 00:14:20 Stands by it and I think we've spoken Ill of it what do you think of Country Bears? I remember taking my niece to it. So, I had probably adjusted some expectation levels being I was in college and taking my niece. So, I was probably already like, this might suck and that's okay. And actually, I think I remember being pleasantly surprised. There might have been a little bit too much irony. I think if I remember it correctly, there was a little bit of trying to beat the Shrek coolness.
Starting point is 00:14:54 You know what I mean? Like, we're bringing this into the... The thing I always hate about when people go like, it's a kid's movie that the joke that the parents can write too is like uh most of those jokes are dumb the jokes for the parents are like a reference to american idol and trek and it's like that's for the parents and also kids like those jokes and parents like the kids jokes parents laugh just as much as donkey farting as the kids do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why do we have to, like, figure out who likes what movies? Everybody likes whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Yeah, probably. I agree. If you look at, like, then what, like, family movies end up on a critics best of list that everybody's, like, they're, like, they don't have crap, like, they don't have, like, a reference to something that happened a year ago, like, Spider-Man or Coco or whatever is, like, doesn't have like yeah adult jokes is a strange yeah go back and re-watch uh those shreks there's some jokes in there that you're like oh my god this is well that uh those spoof movies i think it's disaster movie
Starting point is 00:15:57 they actually have a newspaper in it and it on the newspaper it's the date that the movie came out and it was almost like their joke of like this is how long this movie will last it won't even last the past the expiration of the release date of the movie wow really yeah wow that's interesting you guys are pretty cool that is cool yeah that is we like we're impressed by them they've never been done in a movie i know right right right you haven't ever seen the actual date of the movie. My birthday once was on a Thursday when Cheers came out. And I remember they said, my birthday is April 12th.
Starting point is 00:16:35 And for whatever reason, they needed the date in the episode of Cheers. And on my birthday, April 12th, they said, April 12th on the episode. Wow. Yeah. So, that was another time that art imitated the date. A wonderful phenomenon.
Starting point is 00:16:56 But you compare this to like the second golden age of Disney animation or something and like Little Mermaid, Aladdin, Lion King. The jokes in that are pretty tight I mean Aladdin has some good Robin Williams kind of jokes but those movies would
Starting point is 00:17:12 take so long to make they wouldn't like cram topical stuff in there the jokes are a little more evergreen in those ones like if they did an Iran Contra joke or something then Little Mermaid would probably stick out. And even the genie impressions.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Those are more like Jack Nichols. That lasts. Pretty perennial. Rich Little's impressions that could play in the same spot for 40 years. He does impersonate, I think, George F. Will in that movie. And I don't know how many kids were like Yes conservative commentator George F. Will Is that something about quid pro quo
Starting point is 00:17:49 Provisors quid pro quo I had no idea what that was until now That is George F. Will Still around still commentating Still complaining about how the game Of baseball is played Maybe not George F. Will Sorry it's the guy who gets in the
Starting point is 00:18:04 He would get in the... He would get in the fight with... They'd go on Dick Cavett and these two writers would have a fight. William F. Buckley? Buckley. Buckley was it. I got the George F. Will, William F. Buckley. He was an initial guy. Good thing I didn't say Paul F. Tompkins.
Starting point is 00:18:22 We know that's not correct. We know that. Yeah. When Paul F. Tompkins debated Gore V's not correct we know that yeah when paul of tomkins debated gore vidal on cabot that was a whole different do you think if in november 92 when we went and saw aladdin if the genie had done an impression of paul of tomkins we would have been able to appreciate i don't think i don't think so it would have been a tad confusing the philadelphia comedian yes a local. Never appeared on television. Never heard of him.
Starting point is 00:19:03 I did have one of those things though where do you ever had the thing where you watched a stand-up when you were younger and then you remember a joke and then the person starts saying on stage like, oh, I saw this. It happened to me with Paul F. Tompkins. When I was a freshman in high school, maybe I saw a stand up on Conan make a joke about how this relates to Disney. He turned on the TV and at like 2 a.m. the Apple Dumpling Gang was on. Oh, yeah, yeah. With Tim Conway. And he was like, what family is watching the Apple Dumpling Gang at 2 a.m.? And he was like,
Starting point is 00:19:30 oh, it's for alcoholic fathers who wake up their kids and are like, the Apple Dumpling Gang is on! And wakes up the kids and forces them to watch it. Anyway, I always liked that joke. Well, because he went backwards
Starting point is 00:19:45 and his first album was like older material that he was refining. Oh, is that in there? Yes, I think that's why. Yeah, I think he was going back to the first, which also included Crushed Pennies, another theme park. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:56 So he was really, we're going to ask him about all this stuff. He's fully, were you guys, or you're saying it was the sort of the Disney Renaissance. Did you guys see Aladdin in the theaters? Do you remember? Sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:10 I saw it at the El Capitan. Wow. My parents took me to a special El Capitan, which I think was the first time I ever went there. And that's an incredible theater when you're eight or whatever. Sure, holy moly, yeah. No, I remember that showing very strongly. And they do the shows beforehand. Has anybody done El Capitan lately? No, I remember that showing very strongly. And they do the shows beforehand. Has anybody done El Capitan lately?
Starting point is 00:20:28 No, I've heard it's fun. I don't think I've done it ever. I did a Toy Story 1 and 2. Oh, that's good. Six, seven years ago. Because I moved here in 2004. Was it always dazzling and lit up? Or was that part of a
Starting point is 00:20:43 Hollywood Boulevard renovation thing it was el capitano is i saw it there i saw them they're not first run i saw them there like six or seven years ago there was like a double feature i see i see yeah yeah yeah i uh yeah i saw a uh one of those disney nature documentaries there uh yeah a few years ago and that was cool because before the show they had they brought some live animals out that was fun to get to see some live animals you know really enclosed setting what'd you see and then i uh oh i saw a goat i remember thinking it's like these are animals that we're gonna get to see in the jungle these are just like this is what you could get this is what you could get every day for a month.
Starting point is 00:21:29 And I think I saw, I don't remember seeing Ratatouille there. No. But before the show. Unleashed rats? What's that? Did they unleash rats? Have them cook for you? They had a Ratatouille suit come out, but. What's your, were you fond of Aladdin previous to all this? Yeah, I think in that initial, you know, if it's sort of what the leaving out rescuers
Starting point is 00:21:53 down under, but that for the sort of Rana from Little Mermaid, Aladdin or Beating the Beast, Aladdin, Lion King, right? Felt like kind of a piece. And then I felt like after Lion King when it was like Pocahontas starting there is when I... Pocahontas, I was 14 when it came out. Even Lion King, I remember sitting in the theater at age 13 and being like, I might... I'm going to see this because it's a zeitgeisty thing right now.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Not necessarily going because I'm dying to see, because it's a zeitgeisty thing right now not necessarily going because I'm dying to see you know because I was like really cool with bad complexion terrible hair growing up grow up be more hideous no but
Starting point is 00:22:42 I loved Aladdin so much and I remember yeah losing it I laughed so hard through the whole movie and then I remember a month later is when Toys came out that other Robin Williams movie and it was such
Starting point is 00:22:57 a bait and switch to go from within three weeks to Aladdin of just like a laugh fest to like I don't know if you've seen toys, but it's like a, it's an allegory for a military weapon. Like the, the,
Starting point is 00:23:12 the industrial military complex. And they're using a toy company to build weapons. And, uh, it's like Barry Levinson's hippie, like, Hey man, think about the toys you're making for your kids.
Starting point is 00:23:27 That's how it is. I got the lesson of Small Soldiers, too. Another very odd movie. Yes. I saw Small Soldiers for the first time 10 days ago. Wow. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:40 I went on a big, Joe Dante made it. Oh, yeah. And I watched 11 Joe Dante movies in nine days. Really? I went on a Dante fest, guys. Sure. So, yes. That's a fun ride.
Starting point is 00:23:52 There's a lot of fun movies in there. Oh, boy. Yeah. And he, I was just listening to a podcast of his. He was talking about going to Disneyland. Oh, he was remarking about how he couldn't believe he couldn't remember the ride but he was saying they were talking about a song of the south oh yeah he was like it really demonstrates how people weren't plugged into sensitivity
Starting point is 00:24:18 that that ride could have came out in 1989 yeah yeah it was based on Uncle Reba's stories. It's crazy. Really strange. But it was one of those, which I'm sure your listeners have, other people do, where he was like, what's the name of that ride?
Starting point is 00:24:31 Oh my gosh, it's based on Simon Sutherland. Then I went, Joe! Love your movies too, but get with it. But no, I loved it
Starting point is 00:24:42 and I remember laughing so much and then when it came out on video watching it repeatedly and uh you know it really did like was kick off i mean the fact that this show ended up being full of topical references and then you know and then ben shrek before that that like i don't think any of that happens without robin williams sort of cracking open the kind of comedy you could do in an animated movie. Yeah. I'd go even so far to say he also was the person who,
Starting point is 00:25:10 uh, there was, I know other celebrities would have done it previously, but that there was marquee value in knowing this celebrity is the voice of this person you're watching, which a lot of times, you know, you don't give a shit. You're sort of like, um... Zsa Zsa Gabor doing Bianca.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Well, that's a bad example. Isn't that Bianca or is that Aristocats? Was it Ava Gabor or was Ava on Green Acres? Zsa Zsa is her. Which would have put a five-year-old Mike into the seat. Yeah, that's true. So for me, yeah, that one would have gotten me there. But now when it's like, you know, James Gandolfini in Megamind 2.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Actually, that'd be James Gandolfini. That is good. I'm very excited about the Gandolfini family. But there's a lot of weird after that was like yeah yeah yeah i think and which i think he was trying to avoid he like didn't want that to get cracked open and not for and and he also apparently didn't want to step on the box office of toys he thought he would fuck over toys he did disney but yeah and it did sort of disappear so is yeah his whole thing was like don't just don't tell people that it's me and then you don't have to pay me as much because
Starting point is 00:26:29 then you're not using my name to sell the movie and then i think in like the commercials they started showing him in the recording studio um oh they said they like push that footage that just seems like yeah we're gonna film it to have it to show behind the scenes and they started using that more aggressively okay okay the uh anyway when they have the behind the scenes stuff of somebody in the animation studio doing voices uh it reminded me uh nick weiger wrote a sketch once that was it was phil collins is in a recording studio and he can't concentrate on singing the tarzan song because he keeps blowing tape because he wants to share all these new facts he's learned about dinosaurs. So, it'll be like, I'll be in your heart. He's like, hold on, fellas.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Did you know a brontosaurus? But when I saw that sketch, I said to Weiger, I was like, you know, the way he did it was the thing where when somebody's wearing headphones and they have the one headphone on one ear and then off on the other. And I said to him, you know, it's really funny that you wrote that sketch about Phil Collins because whenever I imagine somebody in a studio with one headphone off and one headphone off like he did, I was like, I think of Phil Collins because I saw this video once of him doing it and nick was like that's why i wrote the sketch i have an image of phil collins with a headphone piece like what i think i have that in my head too i've seen that
Starting point is 00:27:56 i think that was for publicity for tarzan they were playing i've seen that a lot for sure he famously he more than anybody is associated with the one headphone on method. That's what you're saying. Does he also maybe do that and then in like, do they know it's Christmas or something else we would have seen him in a studio? A lot of them do, I think, that. Yeah. In that.
Starting point is 00:28:17 They're having the one headphone on. That's pretentious. It's an affect. They don't need to do it. My favorite is when sometimes now they clearly like stage those filming. Like it's not like they just brought a camera in. There's the cardboard cutout next to them. Yeah, the Toy Story.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Like all those Toy Story things are showing now for Toy Story 4. It's such like well lit. And there's just like Toy Story pictures up. And they're like doing lines from the movie. You know Tim Allen came in there hungover looking puffy and red as shit. Like came in
Starting point is 00:28:51 and like yeah sweatpants like one leg up and another leg down and then like Tim we were recording today we're gonna shoot some video. And then he went wah wah wah. Okay sorry sorry sorry sir. Then a flurry of construction equipment flew by and made him look nice
Starting point is 00:29:09 also those are very uh anytime I've had to do a voice stuff everybody's always been very supportive but um I it can make you feel very vulnerable because you're just like by yourself and you're watching other people watch you and you don't have anything really to connect with. So, I would think bringing a video camera in there, probably something people wouldn't love.
Starting point is 00:29:32 They're going to catch you playing with the music stand that has the carpet on it. So, it doesn't, that famous carpet music stand. So, it doesn't rattle. Yeah. So, it doesn't rattle. That is interesting to play with. I think it is a neat situation I've been in. I totally, Phil Collins method, the one headphone on, Jason Sheridan's method, play with the
Starting point is 00:29:50 play with the carpet music stand. Yeah. So your voice doesn't bounce off the metal. I think it's good to play with the carpet stand because it would, it sort of shows you're just relaxed. Hey man, we're just having fun with this carpet. That's a good way to trick people into thinking I'm confident. Thank you, Jason.
Starting point is 00:30:10 You're owning the environment. You're marking your territory. Okay, so Ronald Williams cracks open this whole area. Now we can reference celebrities and stuff in animated films. Do you think that's been... i know voice actors get angry about i would if i was like man they're coming in and on our territory and yeah like people like i don't know they've complained specifically you know you're billy west's of the world who are like really like professional and do tons of voices are like well just a celebrity comes in and does
Starting point is 00:30:42 a regular voice i like spend all this time and come up with a voice that's like perfect and then it's just like i don't know here comes not that i'm upset at him but like seth rogan he just doing his voice right like what's the point like the the to me the word like robin williams makes sense because he he in some other world he could have been purely a voiceover guy if he hadn't done all the other things but like what was one of those like boring DreamWorks movies like Road Del Dorado or something as Brad Pitt who I think we all
Starting point is 00:31:12 like in many things but I'm not like his voice of course Brad Pitt's great dynamic voice only removed from his physicality. It's like don't take away those eyes please. Yeah, come on. Scott, that is also
Starting point is 00:31:27 that is the name I was going to pull as you started saying that. Because I think Megamind was the peak of that because it's like, okay, Will Ferrell is the kooky villain, that makes sense, but it's like, then the superhero is Brad Pitt. He's in that too. I think that's him, but his voice
Starting point is 00:31:44 like you're saying, yeah, he's just sounds like a guy. If you're not looking at Brad Pitt, it just sounds like man. A big part of the Pitt package is the looks. Is the looks.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Yeah. Not the voice. Yeah. So yeah, on some ways, like I think it's good because it opened a door for like,
Starting point is 00:32:00 I referenced the donkey earlier and I love Eddie Murphy. I think as the donkey, did I ever tell you the story when I took the same niece I took to Country Bears, I took to Shrek 2 and it was like the last 20 minutes and you know in the last 20 minutes of a movie when things are wrapping up, you're actually kind of a lot
Starting point is 00:32:18 of times relieved. You're just like, okay, sure. Movie's wrapping up. I gotta go home. And I remember I was like, oh, it's wrapping up. And donkey was making me laugh so hard. was like i'm gonna have to wait another three years until donkey comes back like i was so sad so there's times that i do like it guys but then there's times where it's just not as necessary and you wish a billy west could uh sure it must have been a tough decade for you. We haven't had Donkey in a while.
Starting point is 00:32:47 It's in the worst years of your life. I'm all referencing things that happened like a year, year and a half after 9-11. We needed the most cheering up. It's all important. Sure. The first Shrek was summer 2001, right? Yeah. Is that the end of the 20th century
Starting point is 00:33:05 yeah our last summer of innocence yeah it's like uh Woodstock before Altamont you know yes exactly August 69th Shrek and Moulin Rouge and then combining all of pop culture old songs yeah new settings flattened it all yeah yeah it's like a bookend and then glitter was glitter right after 9-11 i believe so wow yeah or was it right before it's somewhere around there oh glitter was around the yes because it was celebrating the time in new york that was pre-9-11 yeah yeah those were the tough ones where uh the the New York movies that were on the shelf for the next like six, seven months. Yeah. You'd see Twin Towers and you'd have to have them. And I had a friend who, you know, it's weird. You're with a group of people in a living room and you're watching like, what's the movie Greg Mottola did where they're all in one car together?
Starting point is 00:34:09 It's like, it's not called The Carpoolers, but that's the idea. They're all in one car and they're trapped in a car. Oh, God. But they're driving into New York and they see two Twin Towers and my friend went, Good dude. You know, that's just... Like a one-way to be like, like okay we all are thinking you have to acknowledge it in a way yeah yeah just even just some like and you're almost like like you're for you maybe
Starting point is 00:34:34 have an initial reaction of being mad at the movie like yeah how could they come on it's an old movie you can't be mad drake mottola you didn't know in 1995. Should have known. Those buildings had targets on them. Day trippers? Shouldn't have filmed them at all. Is it day trippers? Day trippers, yes. Oh, yes. I looked it up.
Starting point is 00:34:53 I didn't know. Wow, crazy. That's smart. That's good. You guys should watch it. But we'll turn away for one shot. Oh, yeah, we'll watch. Day trippers is on the compass.
Starting point is 00:35:05 It's Day Trippers is at the top, and then the inverse of it at the south is the 25th Hour, which is only 9-11, which is the 25th Hour so much is about. It's the yin and yang of New York representation. Well, you know, on September 11th, 2001, the Hyperion Theater was still in its infancy, still in its first year. That's where the show is at California Adventure. And why in 2001, they were showing something called Steps in Time. Did you guys look into Steps in Time at all? I just noticed it.
Starting point is 00:35:38 And I honestly, I didn't. I didn't because I know we'll have to do a separate episode. Sounds like a messy cook. Who knocked over the spice rack. Steps in Time followed by Blast. The Power of Blast. Which was like a condensed
Starting point is 00:35:59 Broadway. Brought to you by Hormel. So proud. Proud legacy. They're so proud that things can blast your ass. What was the power of blast? That was what? It was sort of like stomp, but a little different. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:18 A little cooler. A little cooler. There was a part where there's a big row of drum kits and there's like 16 people all playing drums at the same time. Stuff like that. Ah, a little. It was the parable. I would imagine if they could work out the rights, a Blue Man group would go over very well franchising with a Disney, right? Well, they're in Universal Studios.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Oh, yeah. And they replaced, they evicted Nickelodeon studios where all of our favorite shows were filmed uh as a kid wait down in orlando yeah yeah so you know where all that and clarissa were filmed and such uh yeah that's now there's a home of the blue man home video uh within the rust family of uh we went to orlando um in 1990 and so mgm had just opened up and universal had just opened up i forget which one but we went to universal and all it was the first few days so all the rides were breaking down oh yeah yeah really a bummer like oh you can't go on Kong-fortation? And they didn't even have the Back to the Future ride yet.
Starting point is 00:37:28 It was like a little bit of a disappointment. But we went to the Nickelodeon Studios and they had a big sign up that said, Double Dare Auditions. I'm like, holy moly. Oh, my God. This would be a fun game to play. And I get to be on TV like I always dreamed. And they said auditions were that day, but they said, we're not shooting until next week. So, if you're not here next week, don't audition today because there's no way you could ever be... It's a waste of our time, right?
Starting point is 00:38:00 Yeah. And so, and I knew that like in my nine-year-old brain, like, I'm like, I know we won't be here, but I still was just angry at the injustice of it. And there's a perfectly composed like moment in our home video where it's zoomed up on the Nickelodeon studio splat sign and it zooms out. And as it's zooming out, it's panning down and my dad's my mom's narrating it and she goes, my mom's holding it but my dad's narrating and he goes
Starting point is 00:38:32 poor little Paulie didn't get to be on Nickelodeon right? And I'm like marching up to the camera like angry, like so fussy and marching and I'm like pissed off and it's like one of those like Sean Penn getting mad at the paparazzi like don't look at me right you know like so as there's i put up my hand and i swat the thing and guys i was a good little boy too i just you
Starting point is 00:38:58 know i just yeah i wanted my parents to like me and know that I was a good boy. So, me doing this was crazy. And if you watch the video, I hit it and then you hear my mom go, ow. And then you go, well, you hurt your mom. I hope you're happy. And I'm like, this is the worst now. Wow. What am I becoming? I'm a monster. And then the camera pans over to me at the, and this is the very end. And I met with a choice, which is like like the camera's on me now i'm so hot with anger i'm mad that i hit the camera i can either say i'm sorry and cry and be embarrassed
Starting point is 00:39:34 of that or stand my ground and let them know no i'm mad so the camera went on me i like stuck my tongue out but if you like freeze framed it and like did like scene by like shot by shot progression as soon as like the tip of my tongue starts coming on my mouth i've already like started crying because i'm regretting having stuck my tongue out so it's like this perfect like wow Wow. A lot of emotions get stirred up when you're at theme parks, guys. Absolutely, yes. As you're telling this, I am having memories of like a moment of friction or a moment of frustration at theme parks where everything is so loud and heightened.
Starting point is 00:40:18 As a kid, it just gets heightened a million times. I think so because it's also, you're just dealing with the things that's so frustrating when you're a child, which is like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. And you're just like, oh my God, I just find a way to kill off boredom here. And so, you know, you wait and then you get the ride. It's awesome. But then, I think it's that.
Starting point is 00:40:43 And then also just like, it's like, it still happens when it's that and then also just like it's like it still happens when i go to disneyland or go to a theme park which is like in your mind you're like the whole reason i'm here is for fun and so it's a little like um i don't know if you guys ever read that jonathan franzen book freedom but he describes freedom as he's like freedom is this idea that's great but as soon as you don't get everything that was promised by it it's the first thing that instantly sours i'm paraphrasing but it's like the same thing with disneyland you're like i it's the happiest place on earth if i experience 10 unhappiness this whole thing's fucked you know so i think that was a little bit of the yes you're supposed to be having
Starting point is 00:41:21 a perfect day and uh i can only imagine for parents, too, like if your kid picks this day to freak out. Yeah. Or to say that you threw the money down. I didn't even think about the, right, the parent side, which is just like, I'm exhausted. Oh, yeah. And you're making this difficult for me? Let us have fun that you're throwing a tantrum that you can't be a double dairy, you dork. I had two older sisters.
Starting point is 00:41:49 I'm sure for my two older sisters and my parents, it was like the funniest thing in the world. Dork's getting so upset about not getting messy on TV. What a miserable life. You can only be in Universal Studios once and then not also in turn be a tv star instantly you must be as a parent you must be like constantly fighting the urge to like laugh and laugh at your deeply upset child it's so funny and all this little ball of emotion yeah and putting tongues yes yeah yeah it's also yeah when you can uh their uh frustrations match yours then it's like you're like oh i'm not too far from
Starting point is 00:42:34 being a baby all the time still a baby in me two degrees away from being that at all points uh but so what's that where do they shoot now bloom they have a blue man group theater separate ticketed kind of like oh yeah yeah yeah it's not in the so you could never be on double dare that dream is over but i don't think it was universal's call i feel like viacom was like oh the lease has ended they move the time wait they move the time capsule remember the time capsule yes Remember the time capsule? Yes. They moved it a couple times now, I think.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Yeah, but isn't it in the hotel? No, now it's in Burbank, not far from here at Nickelodeon Studios. Oh, that's right. We talked about that. Now they have an actual place where people work and not like a theme park attraction. Is it right over? Is it the one over by the car dealership? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:20 It was put down in 1990, right? Yeah. So, when is the... So, yeah. Was it 50 years or was it 92? Because I remember watching it and thinking like, boy, I'd like to see that thing open. It's a shame I won't live that long. I did the math and I thought there was no way I will be alive at 57, I guess.
Starting point is 00:43:42 That was foolish at the time. But now that we're getting closer closer it might not be that wrong we'll be underwater and the nickelodeon's tide capsule thing will float by and we're like oh yeah it might be now it's the last remnants of humanity yeah in general game boy in there the moon boots i think i think i thought of it because there were so many like different promotions where you would get like a free thing or you go on like that KB toys shopping spree in my mind like whoever opened it was gonna just get all that free stuff and I was just jealous of whoever opened it I was like well they're gonna get that game boy and Mark Summers kid is gonna get it anyway yeah somebody steals it
Starting point is 00:44:27 we should steal it but I was there for that opening that summer of MGM and I remember going to see Muppets live which was people in costumes oh that's right not the puppet show but the costume character Muppet size they were
Starting point is 00:44:43 man size yeah They're not the puppet show, but the costume character. Yeah, because they weren't Muppet-sized. They were man-sized. It was made. That's bizarre. Yeah. And I remember Miss Piggy came out with a pink feather boa and sang Personality. You know, I've got personality, personality. Wow. And a pink feather, like, blew off her feather boa and landed at my feet.
Starting point is 00:45:03 And I picked it up and I held it in my palm and I was like, I will never lose this. And I did. This is gonna be very important. I have a more upsetting version of like free showpiece that I got at a theme park.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Six Flags Great Adventure had a lethal weapon boat like stunt show uh and at the end of the show they were giving out these spent uh bullet casings to kids so i'm sure department of the crow good you need these we were running low on those are in a locker those are in an evidence locker somewhere uh yeah just blanks bullet casings from blank because like the casing is the same whether it's a blank or a bullet do you have it it's probably somewhere in my mom's house in a box somewhere yeah gotta find that bullet you gotta find that
Starting point is 00:45:54 at the end of the world you'll be like trying to find that bullet casing to put some ammunition in to save him. Oh, yeah. This is my moon boon. I know it's here somewhere. To protect your time capsule. Yeah. And then I think at that Universalist, I saw the Ghostbusters live show, just to bring it back to the live shows.
Starting point is 00:46:15 And I think that was a mouthy, lip-synchy one. Yeah, I think so. It was kind of 50-50. Yeah, a lot of puppets. Yeah, a lot of actors and some projection. Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:23 We haven't talked about that one yet. That's a good one. It. Yeah, a lot of puppets. A lot of actors and some projections. Yes. We haven't talked about that one yet. That's a good one. Yeah. It was pretty cool. I remember the set being real fun. And you said something to this extent. I think when you're a kid and you love movies and TV shows and entertainment so much, the
Starting point is 00:46:41 exciting thing is just the, whatever you mean. It's just like the immersive thing of just like, i'm in a movie right now and so yeah uh i remember ghostbusters really uh uh that show i'm not even the biggest ghostbusters fan but it was just like i remember thinking like oh man i'm seeing actual ghostbusters costumes and i'm seeing actual you know slimers sure but the aladdin show might i think of all the live because and i did see the bill and ted ones and those are great you know i'm seeing the hats and the air guitars yeah the real air guitars the best the best mitt romney uh i remember Romney I remember I went to a I think Paul Abdul came out and they sang That bitch is crazy
Starting point is 00:47:30 Oh my god That bitch is crazy People were not Super forgiving of There was Britney in that there was a lot of like It's bald Britney she's Gone going psycho watch out Like she had a chainsaw.
Starting point is 00:47:46 I think that's something that happened in that. The treatment of Britney Spears in the media over the last 25 years. By every media. It wasn't even, that stuff was only like, wasn't that all within the decade? Or like, maybe like 2006 or so? Yeah, I guess. Wow, she's fat and looks like shit. She's crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:02 People are so awesome I remember that driving me crazy cause uh it was a little like um somebody uh starting a fire in a field and then driving five miles away and being like can you believe this fire like it's like we all were responsible for Britney's meltdown
Starting point is 00:48:19 we can't now be like we don't get it two ways we don't get to destroy her and then have fun about it. There was like a two-week period where she, in the late 90s, early 2000s, where she was like, cool, look at this new pop star. She's not the villain. And then two weeks later, it just became, the media just made her a villain for over a decade and stuff.
Starting point is 00:48:42 For one reason or another. Yeah. And then that Timberlake still gets to walk around, cock-a-doodle-do telling stories about her. Not vaccinating kids. Not being funny. Doing celebrity voices in animated movies. Oh, he's one of them.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Making everyone at the Super Bowl mad. Twice. Twice. Oh, you're right. Yeah. And he got off. Mad and then indifferent, I guess, is indifferent last year those are the funniest video we're like because they was i think that thing was well produced for tv and if you're watching with all the camera moves it was kind of exciting but then when somebody posted on twitter here's what it was like in the stadium from very far away and it's just really
Starting point is 00:49:20 they aren't playing to the audience. It's there at all. You see all these grips just move chunks of equipment around. Go, go, move it, move it. My favorite is when they have those people like... They pay the people to be excited because they send all those people out in the field. Every year. Every year, it's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:49:39 And if you were just watching it casually, you probably wouldn't notice. You'd be like, oh, yeah, there's an audience there. But it's like people are like... Unnaturally moving their arms in a way that like no one in a concert even like beetle mania that would look strange in the front row of people at a beatles concert like the america's funniest home videos i remember that audience seemed like oh yeah yeah or something because they were just like out of their minds just laugh when I first moved to LA I went to a taping of America's Funniest Home Videos
Starting point is 00:50:07 and they were playing Hey Ya during the like warm up period oh yeah and I was like dancing in my seat to Hey Ya and I looked over and I saw Tom Bergeron like walk over to our producer and like point at me I was like oh boy what's going on and then the producer came over and was like Tom wants you to
Starting point is 00:50:24 come down and dance what up and was like, Tom wants you to come down and dance. What? I was like, okay. Really? So, it was like the audience warm-up thing. He's like, come here. We're going to play that song. I saw you cutting some moon.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Why don't you dance out here? And like a monkey boy, I'm like, yeah, sure. And I started dancing. And then he was like, let's make this like a commercial spot. So, then they were like, watch America's Funniest Home Videos tonight. You might see something like this. And that pan over and I was like dancing crazy. They never aired it.
Starting point is 00:50:51 But I do have on videotape the episode that our friends are in and we're all like going out of our minds with the over gesturing and like laughing too hard. And Tom Bergeron will say something, we'll turn to each other and like shake our heads like, oh, can you believe this guy? But the most, the saddest part of this story is after it was done, I was with my friends. I'm still friends with Neil Campbell and Mike Cassidy and we were walking out and I was like, this was like three weeks I'd been living in LA. I was like, if I walk out here, I'm blowing an opportunity I could get a writing job out of this
Starting point is 00:51:26 so I like we were out of the studio I turned back around and I walked up to like a crew guy and I was like I was the guy who danced I've actually thought before I could write some of the jokes
Starting point is 00:51:43 for America's Funniest Home Videos. Do you know who I could talk to about that? And he was like, I don't know anything about that, man. I was like, okay. I walked out. Wow. You can't knock the hustle, though. You can't knock the hustle.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Some of the NCTK guys wrote on America's Funniest Home Videos. Oh, wow. I didn oh wow i know that's all right yeah yeah and what was their process so they walked up to some guy they walked up to a better guy or the same guy he just he just didn't like you for some reason hey can you help me get a better job than yours? Sure, buddy. What love to? We're going to be saying can't knock the hustle. That's what I will be whispering as you try to leave today and I start pitching you new love episodes. You'd be like, I don't know anything about that, pal.
Starting point is 00:52:41 What was your name again? I had some randy ideas yes I don't know I don't know anything about that it's done man what do you think I'm gonna do with this oh my god wow that's incredible so that was the Hyperion Theater where I was
Starting point is 00:53:04 you know we're going through a lot of pop culture history. And I realized since we haven't talked about the Hyperion Theater for any reason yet, we have to talk about a major piece of history with major talent that happened on that stage. And that is Kelsey Grammer's fall. That's where it took place? That's where it happened. Yes. Oh, my God. A lot of people don't remember that.
Starting point is 00:53:28 But the reason that you know that it was at Disneyland somewhere is that the joke that he is telling before he falls is something you just catch a little snippet of it. But like, it's a small world pretending to be a UN interpreter. Oh, dear Lord. He's 98% done with the joke. He said, oh, dear Lord, that is so profane. I hope he apologized for the profanity that he said
Starting point is 00:53:56 in front of those people. That's the sweetest thing. Forgive me for my vulgarity. You said, oh, Lord. Although the sound cuts out in the video that you can see of it and he apparently did say oh shit
Starting point is 00:54:09 but that was cut out of what we all have seen from it yeah yeah if you analyze the tape so that little section that he falls down in we see that little section all the time when we watch Aladdin we do and what happened was if you look at a picture of that he falls down in. We see that little section all the time when we watch Aladdin.
Starting point is 00:54:25 We do. And what happened was, if you look at a picture of the stage from any performance of Aladdin, it's all weird and carved up because it's like starbursts. And the reason he fell, it was not a flat stage.
Starting point is 00:54:39 He knows what stages are like. Oh, he's killed so many. That was the problem. He's so accustomed. Yes, but he's never performed on a starburst stage before he didn't fall into the pit where the genie comes out of did he or no no no that's a trap no he's like between star shapes but i mean like you know robin williams did they would he fell into the pit the genie came out of what happened genie. See what happened?
Starting point is 00:55:05 Genie, you're free. That's what happened. Genie, you're free. Oh, no. I don't think that was... Someone tweeted that in Memphis. I don't think that was a apt way to describe that.
Starting point is 00:55:13 But there's like the thing when he shoots out at the top and then when Jafar comes out later. That wasn't where he fell. No, no, no. Like he would fall
Starting point is 00:55:21 onto the Jafar puppet. That was just waiting down there. No, he had landed on the snake puppet. What if he had landed on the Jafar puppet. That was just waiting down there. No, he had landed on the snake puppet. What if he had landed on the snake and then the snake shot up shooting Kelsey Grammer into the ceiling of the Hyperion? Oh, dear Lord. Oh, dear Lord. No, he fell front of the stage.
Starting point is 00:55:42 And here's what's, I'd never heard him speak about this video. But on YouTube, you can look up him talking on a Jim Norton radio program of some kind. And he tells the rest of the story. And they're like, hey, that video is real funny, man. And he's like, yes, yes, I know. And people enjoy it. What you don't realize is that I would the side of the stage split my entire leg open. And I performed the rest. I did the rest of the stage split my entire leg open. I performed the rest.
Starting point is 00:56:06 I did the rest of my presentation, but I did it with, I was bleeding through my pants. Jeez. Because it is a hard angle. It's like a 10 degree angle. And so it did tear his leg open. When he went to the hospital, he did the rest of his half hour or whatever and then
Starting point is 00:56:25 straight to the hospital where they said this is like worse than motorcycle accidents we've seen oh my god and he also and they're like so you know like what were you thinking when that happened they're trying to make it funny and he's like well I thought about my grandmother who when she broke her hip it was the beginning
Starting point is 00:56:42 of the end and I thought that I had broken my hip yeah It was the beginning of the end, and I thought that I had broken my hip. Yeah, it was like a terrible thing. It was a very grim fall. The story I had heard about it was like, I think on The Office, they wanted to use the clip. They needed a clip of a funny internet thing,
Starting point is 00:56:59 and they were like, well, they went to the people, to Kelsey Grammer's people, and they're like, we'll let you use it. You just have to pay us. And they're like we'll let you use it you just have to pay us and they're like okay how much do you want they're like uh half a million dollars it was like a number that you would never pay because kelsey grammar must have been like yeah i don't we don't need that out there anymore niles will have a field day with this he said do you think that was off limits to joke about um like when the genie con like the next time they did aladdin oh oh yeah probably it's like when uh william shatner got roasted they were like no uh dead wife jokes no life drowning jokes
Starting point is 00:57:43 right that was like on the back wall in the high period theater right no grammar jokes like what we can't do wordplay now I feel like being censored M-E-R not M-M-A-R Jeannie got fired for doing a Kelsey Grammar joke once I do feel I feel like the real Jeannie
Starting point is 00:58:02 because I'm in shackles I remember you know when the Jeannie shackles. I remember, you know, when the genie shackles come off at the end of Aladdin. I remember seeing the movie and then seeing a TV spot for the movie and they show a last scene where he's like, we're going to Disney World
Starting point is 00:58:18 or something like that and he doesn't have the shackles on in that briefest moment. I was like, they've spoiled the movie. they've ruined it people now know that he's not enslaved if that was Marvel if it was a Marvel movie now they would have put the things on him because they do that
Starting point is 00:58:34 they digitally put stuff on like in the trailers to fool you so that is absolutely something they would have done to not spoil it like they put in like Thor was missing an eye at the end of the ragnarok and they put his eye back in in the trailer so you wouldn't know that he lost an eye in the movie i feel like that's partly um because the people who are in charge of making decisions like now are people like us who when they were kids they saw
Starting point is 00:58:59 aladdin was ruined for them like they did when roger rabbit wasn't nominated for the oscars i remember they did this cute thing where like, when we come back, it's the best animated short. And they cut to a shot of the audience and it was like,
Starting point is 00:59:12 normal person, two empty seats that they Roger Rabbited like Mickey and Minnie Mouse sitting there like waiting for the Oscars to get announced. And then two seat fillers came and sat down
Starting point is 00:59:24 where the animated characters were sitting. It was this like weird combination of human cartoons. Like Glit. It's like, what? What the fuck? Like they were
Starting point is 00:59:38 like this woman sat on a mini drawing. It was so weird. Like they got in a fly machine together. Kill me. Kill us. Kill us. Put us out of our misery. That's smart.
Starting point is 00:59:53 But that would have never happened if somebody, what I'm saying, our age, would have been running things. They're like, come on, man. I don't want to provoke nightmares for people. Did you see the Aladdin remake? Yes. Oh, we did. We did an episode about it. We talked about it on our Patreon. I don't want to provoke nightmares for people. Did you see the Aladdin remake? Yes. Oh, we did. We did an episode about it.
Starting point is 01:00:07 We talked about it on our Patreon. Oh, I missed that one. Yeah. It's a... Yeah, just tying up some loose ends from that episode. Okay, so... Oh. Well, a couple of things.
Starting point is 01:00:18 The ending of the original Aladdin means the genie is free, he still has all his powers so they have just unleashed a mad god on the world that they cannot control anymore so it's good he's benevolent the movie kind of the live action one it's a little cleaner so the lyric change this was a
Starting point is 01:00:40 thing that we touched on briefly but we didn't I didn't have it in front of me in the original animated Aladdin release there were the lyrics in Arabian Nights when they cut off your ears they don't like your face it's barbaric but
Starting point is 01:00:56 hey it's home where the heat is in or where the sand is immense and the heat is intense or what's the where it's so then for the VHS, they change it to where it's flat and immense and the heat is intense. It's barbaric, but hey, it's home. And I found
Starting point is 01:01:12 a news article at the time. People were like, thank you for changing the cutting the ear off thing. You still have the word barbaric in there. We would like you to change that. And Disney representative says that line will not be changed. So they miss that. And Disney representative says that line will not be changed. So they miss that.
Starting point is 01:01:29 And of course, Live Action Aladdin introduced a new character we neglected to talk about that is not in the stage musical or the animated one. Euro Trash Prince. Euro Trash Prince. Oh, yeah. There is another prince in the movie before Prince Ali shows up. Raja binds the back of his pants. Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:49 So in the new movie, he's like a German, like this kind of potty boy, like sort of thing. Yeah. That was weird. That was a weird edition. It was a little odd. It was a little odd. Did Raja bite his pants? I don't think so. I don't think he bit Roger going to bite his pants? I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:02:05 I don't think he bit. Did he bite any pants? You don't get the hard boxers. Isn't that the hard boxer moment? I love hard boxers. I call those TV underwear. Yes. I thought boxers, hearts or not, I thought that was TV underwear. Because I always saw me in briefs
Starting point is 01:02:22 and my dad in briefs. I didn't think boxers really, I thought that was like a comic conceit yeah and they don't exist or to get around the fact that like they can't show guys walking around in briefs yeah that's probably partly it too uh-huh that it disguises things a little bit more but it also was like illegal it was an fcc mandate to put at some point i think in the Will Ferrell era, the comedy got a little coarser. It went from boxers to briefs. What's funnier to see on screen.
Starting point is 01:02:52 We used to be, love the hearts on boxers, guys. But now, we like briefs. That's how hard and new we've become. You've been naked in things to some extent, haven't you? I have a, I'm in my briefs in I Love You, Beth Cooper.
Starting point is 01:03:12 I'm wearing Spider-Man underwear. And they had to go through Marvel to clear that. And the only way it was cleared was because Chris Columbus was making, producing a Fantastic Four movie at the time. So, we had enough of a connection that they wanted to happen like the second the jessica album yeah whoa those yeah yeah that weird you could not have worn spider-man underwear yeah because they had the logo and but and i still have those if you guys would have spell them uh please we've been waiting that's why we brought you here uh wow that's a real throwback then to not be in like uh to be in comical underwear yeah but you know on love that was a conversation i chose to wear boxers in a scene and we talked about how isn't it funnier to see somebody in briefs and then the conversation of
Starting point is 01:04:01 but are we past that have we seen briefs too much? Wow, wow. What's the new comedy underwear? A post-briefs world. Yeah, what do you think we live more in, post-9-11 or post-briefs world? Briefs, I think. For sure, I think it's briefs. It's the one we live with more every day now.
Starting point is 01:04:24 I have not seen the remake so I don't know about Euro trash uh Prince but uh it sounds like a character I have still been describing Aladdin as strangely okay oh okay like strangely okay strangely as some parts I'd like it exists it's there that'd be my pull quote on the poster they hold up a parchment at some point that has the date of the movie on it so yeah like um uh we won't go down a hole guys but when uh i remember sitting in the theater with uh the last jedi it was like ancient jedi All right. I'm not even a big Star Wars fan like others, you know, but I was just like, oh, so these base are in books. What?
Starting point is 01:05:12 This world has paper? Yeah. Like, I haven't even seen paper in this world, let alone that they have tomes that they refer to. Had nobody read a book in a Star Wars movie ever? I'm trying to think. There's no parchment ever. I don't think there's any parchment that gets
Starting point is 01:05:29 passed around. Well, now if you go to Oga's Cantina in Star Wars Galaxy's Edge, which I've done three times now, it is like weird. It's not quite paper on the menus. It's definitely it feels a little more leathery or something. So, they're ahead of you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:45 Banthahide or something. So they're new. Yeah. Banthahide or something, you know. Right. Paper. Banthahide, they're huge. Man, that would be perfect for the Aladdin musical. It might be too specific. It might be too... too conglomerations
Starting point is 01:06:07 but with the Star Wars land it would be perfect because they would reference things in park as well that would get a big laugh I wonder yeah so what's in the Hyperion theater now let's replace the Frozen live at the Hyperion does Olaf do topical jokes? No he does not
Starting point is 01:06:23 he does not He does not It's a longer show than Aladdin It's pretty good Is it a full hour? It's an hour and like 15 Because Aladdin was 45 minutes That's already pretty long But it's an hour
Starting point is 01:06:37 So instead of annoying pop culture jokes It's the annoying joke of somebody going So that just happened is there one of those in Frozen? they're filled with I love Frozen but it's wall to wall so that was a little random oh man
Starting point is 01:06:57 yeah really that's a thing whatever the flavor of punch up people is at the time I guess that that's what the things you don't like in shrek and the things you like in frison well yeah i have a theory of uh if you really like this joke in alt comedy wait 10 years and you'll get to see it in all the commercials you want to see if you really liked it just wait 10 years um but uh yeah i i guess i haven't seen the frozen show but it wasn't you know the thing i did like about the aladdin show was the 45 minute thing that like
Starting point is 01:07:35 for people who aren't necessarily ride folks it's like a nice way to kind of be like and also the sort of line thing is kind of figured out you just go and it's like hey you get there you know you're promised a seat everybody goes in it's yeah it feels fairly it's nice air conditioning eats up people uh 1984 seats yeah it's a giant theater would love that it's a giant giant. There's three levels. I've sat on all the levels multiple times. You got to get every perspective. You got to get everything. I've sat in the very back.
Starting point is 01:08:13 I've sat very close. I sat there on the invite only or AP last show press conference they had. Oh, my God. We got to get to that. All right. It's a point in that. Well, there's not so much there, but we saw the show
Starting point is 01:08:30 and then everyone came out and talked about it. All the actors came out and talked about it. And like the Jasmine had been there for 10 years. Jeez. She had been,
Starting point is 01:08:38 or maybe the whole, no, she had been there the whole time. They said the Jazzman. Billy Crystal. Billy Crystal's Jazzman. The jazz man character they have somebody fell off he didn't break character princess jazz man it is funny hearing that i didn't realize it was like a cut up stage because they would use it for presentations and stuff yeah they would use like executives managed to not fall off the Kelsey Grammar.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Were you up close enough to see the hair and blood-encrusted part of the Kelsey Grammar? Yes. Frazier's bones. Oh, it reeks of Frazier's bones in here. They haven't washed it out. Did you... Now, people can't see Aladdin,
Starting point is 01:09:22 but out of all the vantage points you got, was there a prime one? I like sitting very close for things. So I feel like dead center. That's good. Maybe fifth row, you still get a little bit of a stage picture. Were you afraid he was going to roast you? I was hoping he was going to roast me.
Starting point is 01:09:40 Like going to Rickles. You'd hope for it. There was a Chinese man in the front row There was an older couple next to him They staged it, they put them there So Jeannie could have at them I've thought before After how many Don Rickles shows
Starting point is 01:09:57 How many like frail Male egos have had to be boosted On the ride home by their wives I mean I know he makes jokes but uh and it's like well you're right you're right he's mean he's mean he shouldn't make those jokes just doesn't line you know some things just do it wasn't just me some of the other guys i don't feel it wasn't just me i don't feel bad for me. I feel bad for the Polish people across America. I just feel unfair to all of them.
Starting point is 01:10:28 The thing I remember being really dazzled by with the Aladdin show was the magic carpet. It goes up and I felt some fear for the performers because if you were on the balcony when they're over the audience and around it's just a little. The show is actually good.
Starting point is 01:10:44 It is good. It's around. It's just like the show is actually good. Like it is good. It's like impressive. And it's like the broad. Yeah. There's like sets. And like when Jeannie comes down the stairs, there's a ton of genies. Friend like me. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:53 It's crazy. That's awesome. Yeah. I was afraid of those genies, though. I'm like, they freak me out. They're like doll faced men. They're doll faced men. And in fact, I like.
Starting point is 01:11:04 OK, so here's all of them uh you know if you zoom into one of their heads that's pretty terrifying yeah yeah and it's oh yeah there you go uh um just with the crooked eyebrows from so this is the cruise ship version so this is still running on the disney fantasy sort of like a touring musical version scaled down a little bit all the numbers are still in there but the masks look extra terrifying those might be worse it reminds me of one of my favorite mystery science
Starting point is 01:11:33 theater movies which is called devil doll here's a picture of devil doll I bring it up almost every time I open a bottle of wine which is a lot because I there's a weird the dummy wants to drink wine, and there's this odd exchange like, I want some wine. I know what wine is.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Give me some. But you're just a dummy, Hugo. Almost every bottle of wine I open, the phrase, I know what wine is, is used. Wait a second. Which came first? You drinking the wine or you being driven
Starting point is 01:12:07 to drink the wine because of devil? Oh, yeah. It's all Hugo's fault. It's all Hugo's fault. Yeah. Hugo hypnotized me. Yeah, those matching,
Starting point is 01:12:16 that reminds, like when the, like the old 60s Planet of the Apes movies, you can see that they can't have the budget to fashion the best masks for everybody. So, if you look closely in the background or reminds me of the end of Three Amigos,
Starting point is 01:12:32 remember when they come back and they all dress up as the Amigos? Oh, yeah. So, when you're first seeing it, you think like, wait, how are all three Amigos in different spots in this village and shooting everywhere? And then they all step out and they're all wearing costumes. But then they reveal that they're kind of like shoddily made. I was like I wasn't looking at the shoddily made ones
Starting point is 01:12:50 when I was getting tricked. Yeah. I think the Hyperion though you're so far away from the genies you don't realize oh their mouths aren't moving. Those are masks because that's the chorus. It's a spectacle. But at the cruise ship it's a spectacle but at the cruise ship it's a full chorus and just dolls singing at you they hang out on the ship corporate is finding out
Starting point is 01:13:11 they're getting like 50 people jumping overboard each they're like why is that and then they look and it's like oh it always correlates with the masks and the fun like me number i think that's heightened so much by the movie. And I would put this guy on the short list of the five geniuses who could still be alive today, but aren't. And I wish they were. Mr. Howard Ashman, guys, who wrote all the... Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I think the reason that we probably stayed in California Adventure so long is because those songs are so good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Those songs weren't good. But Howard Ashman, you know, he wrote Little Shop of Horrors and then obviously all the Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast and stuff. But he passed away from AIDS and Fran Lebowitz has this line about, oh, AIDS took great artists, but also took the people who could be the people who loved art and gave money to it. They also died. So, that's why this sort of last 30 years has kind of been a turn to anti intellectualism or anti art
Starting point is 01:14:16 because there's not enough people around who would love it and hold it up. Anyway, whenever I think about that line, I think about Howard Ashman. I'm like, oh man, I wish Howard ashman was still alive oh that's right music for us yeah well i think he would have kept i mean like not that there's good there's a lot of good disney songs past him but he certainly was yeah he rewrote a lot of the great ones yeah i wonder like subsequent films menken still alive menken wrote a new song for this yeah does he write with tim rice now or
Starting point is 01:14:42 who does because is he alone there was some sondheims no wait not son who am i thinking of was or did he ever do it does who did um no it's no it's a similar name it's like stephen schwartz or something oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yes no that was a wrong stab on my part no yeah he did a musical i was saying called children of eden oh my you know we are all Children of Eden guys. That's what that musical is. This is where the episode turns. And Paul has some value he wants to tell us a lot about.
Starting point is 01:15:13 Paul's handing out pamphlets now? Verses? I knew another guy with magical powers. I don't know what to say. You guys like Mickey Mouse. I know a pretty cool guy too um did it was how was the did he write the there's like a new jasmine song as there is in the film but a different new jasmine song mankin wrote the the to be free song that's in this one okay
Starting point is 01:15:38 yeah which is interesting because i heard that that she has that song because howard ashman's thing always was he writes really good songs about i'm stuck here and I wish I could be out there. And I think he wrote for the original Aladdin song, a Jasmine song that was that, and they ran out of time or they had to cut it. But he's so good at writing that, you know, Ariel's a part of your world, part of your world, and then Little Shop of Horrors Somewhere That's Green is basically note for note the same song but
Starting point is 01:16:09 and then Belle obviously it's all full of that stuff but yeah and like Lion King I remember when the music came out I don't this is sacrilege but I didn't like the music for that it was like too like yuppie baby boomer Paul Simon-y.
Starting point is 01:16:26 Oh, sure. Earth. We're all on this earth. Which they stuck there with Phil Collins and Sting and stuff. That's right. Yeah. That's Broadway. You're getting further away from Broadway.
Starting point is 01:16:36 Yeah. And more into kind of like new agey kind of stuff. And the thing that I liked about Howard Ashman is there is a little bit of a little acerbic. It can be kind of snotty and stuff. So, there is a little bit of a little acerbic can be kind of snotty and stuff so it added a little bit of a little edge yeah yeah yeah one of those documentaries where I'm trying to remember the moment I think it's
Starting point is 01:16:53 is it him described like in Belle when he's like she sings the word alarming okay it's in when he directs Belle to sing the word alarming and he just says Barbara it's barbara and then you hear her do it that way and like she didn't even need to audition what that would sound like or whatever page i was like oh i know exactly what that means and yeah it's a cool little
Starting point is 01:17:15 moment no yeah and that same moment in the documentary he comes into the booth and he's like trying to explain to her like this is how you feel in this moment and then she starts singing it's like oh she took the note and i've actually watched that and thought like oh that's good direction you know what he did he found a way to get her to sing exactly how she was supposed to wow wow yeah it's really incredible that's really magic any like behind the scenes stuff where you can see the note given and then like watch it there's a like it's hard to so much behind the scenes stuff is a little like fluffy but like this is like jurassic park there's a good like he him like talking to joseph mazzello and then you go oh yeah wait he just explained like exactly what makes that scene great that's funny because uh i was watching an interview with the tarantino and
Starting point is 01:17:53 he was saying before he started directing he'd watched as many behind the scenes stuff to see and he was like the person he most gelled with directorially was spielberg he was like oh the the way he talked to actors he was like that's how I think I should talk to actors. Wow. Yeah, the... What was the Spielberg movie? Jurassic Park. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:21 A little film. Have you heard of it? I think you've heard of it. I was trying to think that Tarantino could have seen that one. But before you. He was like boning up right before Reservoir Dogs. He was directing something lately. I used to work at a company pretty close by here. I logged footage for behind the scenes features on DVDs.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Oh yeah. So I would just like watch all the raw footage that they shot and I can't talk about some of the stories on my guys but afterwards, we were in there ourselves. Oh yeah. Crazy things that it was me and like three other guys and we
Starting point is 01:19:01 worked the night shift and somebody would come in and walk in and be like um you want to see al pacino choose somebody out it's like okay we were dming about that oh yeah yeah we're talking about check and joe yeah i already told you that yeah is that what you can explain wait i was maybe that's an off mic i don't remember uh that's so cool that's great but yeah it was a fun job yeah yeah well we're I mean you know at a certain point we just have to start listing jokes
Starting point is 01:19:32 oh I'm sorry you gotta start talking genie here's the thing that always bothered me about this Abu cut not in this but Iago pretty good puppet he gets to do some fun stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:46 I think they were just figuring, like, Abu doesn't get to talk. So, who cares? Because carpet is a person as well. Carpet is fun. Carpet's a hit. Until people love it. Carpet's so fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:55 That's very, very fun. Acrobatic carpet. Like, it's very impressive. Uh-huh. It's like, I got the novelization on tape of Rookie of the Year. And they cut out entirely the Daniel Stern character. What? What? Like, I got the novelization on tape of Rookie of the Year. They cut out entirely the Daniel Stern character. What?
Starting point is 01:20:09 What? He's fun. Yeah, he's funny. But it's like cutting out a boo. Yeah. Where you go like, oh, they can do it. I guess nothing really is affected by it. But I just love it. Change a couple lyrics.
Starting point is 01:20:20 He can scrape off the chocolate off the top of my cake. It doesn't mean I want to eat it. Why were they so pressed for space on the tape? As read by Dan Hedaya. You know Dan Hedaya? Of course. And I remember there's a line that my friend and I, we got on a car trip. We were at a gas station.
Starting point is 01:20:40 We saw the Rookie of the Year Novelization on tape. We're like, let's listen to it. We listened to it. And it was Dan Hedaya. There was one line we listened to over and over where he was like, Henry saw his mom kiss her new boyfriend, made him want to bluff. Oh, my God. Do you have that still?
Starting point is 01:20:58 Is that available? I don't. I don't. I would like to find that. There are a lot of celebrity read novelizations. I don't know. It's so funny to be like a novelization of a movie which is already like yeah if you're reading a novelization of a kid's movie you're already pretty not that they get an audio listening to it
Starting point is 01:21:17 we're a lot of steps removed from this i think about the blues Brothers show at Universal Studios. Like, the understudy for the Blues Brothers show at Universal is like eight steps removed from actual blues music. It's like blues music, Dan Aykroyd and John Belushi's appropriation of that. Yeah, yeah. Universal Studios Hollywood appropriation of that. And then the understudy for that who gets to do it if the fake belushi passes uh but what was that sorry genie jokes oh yeah that's almost like let me go i watched an interview with Dylan White,
Starting point is 01:22:06 a 10-year veteran of the show. He was on the Tiara talk show, which was the talk show we listened to when we heard about Cal David, aka Sunny Eclipse, the robot from Florida's Cosmic Rays. He does lounge music in a restaurant in Florida.
Starting point is 01:22:21 In a Disney World. He's an alien who does lounge music. It's a lot of fun. So the way... Check him out. Check his records. Yeah, definitely. He does great sets all the time.
Starting point is 01:22:33 So there'd be two genies working on one day. And one of them would have the early shift and one of them would have the late shift. And they'd come in and talk to each other about what their ideas were. And they'd collaborate yes and they'd say like what was going on during the day and they'd throw ideas at each other and then they would if one of the so they had a rule if one of the genies came up with a joke another genie
Starting point is 01:22:55 couldn't tell that joke until the other genie had done it successfully so you couldn't like steal someone else's idea you could help it help them with it but then once they've done it you could do your own version so he describes what would happen is you know they may have a joke and then different genies would put it different places in the show so you get your snooki different spots and a different read on the snooki joke so they were it was he was like it was so fun constant just collaboration just talking over the house a pop and the new show every night they loved it if you oh my god so it was like yeah so the so it was what i honestly thought because i was always dreaming of like them like on the radio like oh is this good i could use this for genie today like oh this sounds good like these are interesting headlines like i could use
Starting point is 01:23:41 that is good like uh yeah like the comic who like wakes up and you know yeah i could use this 11 man or like your friend grabs the newspaper and that's when his job starts looking at the headlines coming up with jokes you're his i would imagine too like he's at like a family reunion and his uncle's like pitching him genie stuff you're like oh my uncle won't stop pitching me genie stuff he doesn't get. He doesn't get the voice of the character. That's so funny. I tried to write down every reference for the one show I watched. I wrote down so many of them. I watched the very last show.
Starting point is 01:24:14 So they were milking it. It was like 15 minutes longer. And they were milking it. And the genie did a bit where he said the name of every actor who played Genie Jafar in Aladdin. So he says like a few dozen names at some point. And then, but just writing down topical references, I think it was about 30. Like there was a point in one show where I was like, I had to keep rewinding because I'm like, you've got to be kidding me.
Starting point is 01:24:41 Like how did he do that? It's hard. Yeah, I was trying to keep up too because there was me. Like, how did he do that? It's hard. Yeah, I was trying to keep up, too, because there was different. Deal or no deal in 2016 is wild. Yeah, a 45-minute show with 30 jokes. That's like a pop culture reference every minute to 15 seconds. I just kind of want to read them as fast as I can. That's what I was thinking.
Starting point is 01:25:02 It's just a melee. Yeah. Okay, so. It'll be torturous for us trying to catch our breath. Good luck. I'm so sorry. We'll edit out your stifling of laughter if it's too distracting. It's like those pop-up dirty games of like, you're not going to last five minutes
Starting point is 01:25:17 playing this. This is going to be excruciating. Trying to last with these genie jokes. Okay, genie jokes about Patriots football. Genie jokes about Patriots football Genie jokes about Abercrombie and Fitch Not wanting people like that look like him To wear the clothes Genie says that he can't
Starting point is 01:25:33 Fulfill your wish to be part of One direction even though there's a spot open And he says Zane is going In the wrong direction No wishing for no wishing for more wishing uh except you can wish for justin bieber to get deported you can't this is it from a different show can't make people fall in love but because unions fall apart all the time like the union in one direction i made it clunkier but it was i just... I thought they were going to have an anti-union
Starting point is 01:26:05 thing. I was like, what's greed? Can I do a related Bieber? Yeah, go for it. We just throw them out. It was all trade-off. There's a number of spots. Making anybody come back from the dead is always a spot. I can't make anybody come back from the dead. If I can't do it for Justin Bieber's career, I can't do it
Starting point is 01:26:21 for you. Audience goes, ooh. That's the only one of those I ever found.ie all of a sudden just goes superstar uh-huh like mary catherine gallagher i can't bring anyone back from the dead i use that already on betty white that is a ghoulish one for the cruise ship cruise ship it's usually pretty sticky it's a lot more like crazy because it's random not a lot of topical stuff in that the dirty show at 11 like Pietro Martini down at the Pirates
Starting point is 01:26:52 that's another episode I also think the Betty White reference what was the name guy who played the genie Terrence White or something oh oh oh it was Dylan White sounds like a little bit of nepotism going on now we get it shouldn't his name be dylan blue what with the character
Starting point is 01:27:13 i think he would have liked if you had like went up to him and done that he'd be like i gotta use that for you can i use that for genie i can't make people fall in love thing i thought it was gonna be they wouldn't say i can't make people fall in love thing. I thought it was going to be, they wouldn't say, I can't make people fall in love and I can't keep Kelsey from falling off this stage. Can't make people fall in love like Bella and Edward from Twilight. That's in there.
Starting point is 01:27:35 Yeah, that's in there. Paul, did you ever- Thanks for the from Twilight like Jeannie. Did you ever leave the show, Paul, and then go back and then think to yourself, I'm blowing an opportunity. I go up to one of the ushers and I'm like, I think I could run Disney World. I could live in the castle maybe. Could you let me talk to Bob Iger?
Starting point is 01:27:58 This is my favorite. He goes, stay out of the light, Carol Ann. What is that one? A poltergeist reference. A poltergeist. Oh, Carol Ann. What is that one? A poltergeist reference. A poltergeist. Oh, okay. Very impressed with that one. Who's he saying that to?
Starting point is 01:28:08 What's the circumstances that somebody's going to the light? I watched so many of these, I can't remember. There's like a run where he does, stay out of the light, Carol Ann, use the force loop, groovy baby. Oh, right, right, right, right. He gets an applause break. It's a minute long after that He's saying be yourself Aladdin
Starting point is 01:28:27 And saying a lot of like similar Like the message of the movie Essentially in a row There's one where he does the full like Luke I'm your father know that can't be He does like the full scene Yes yeah yeah yeah And he does it with that Luke whining
Starting point is 01:28:42 No it can't be Jack I thought he was funny He He tells Aladdin that he's a smurf That's working on his dad bod Whoa Similar to Is that in his reveal because a lot of the reveals
Starting point is 01:28:58 Yes yes yes who are you I'm magic Mike the later years Yes That's not dissimilar From he's like I eat someone use their wish Who are you? I'm Magic Mike the later years. Yeah. That's not dissimilar from he's like, I eat someone use their wish to make that new Terminator movie. Get to the Walker. Get to the is a reference to get to the chopper, which is a different Schwarzenegger movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:22 He says he tells Jafar that he's so mean when he's on MySpace. Tom won't even be his friend that's from 2019 actually they brought back the aladdin show oh he said back before he when he says like just like dr phil i can't make somebody fall in love with you call that the john and kate rule i believe it's John and Kate plus eight. Wait, and he's saying they've... It's unclear. It's unclear. It's unclear exactly where he's going with it.
Starting point is 01:29:51 Fuck you, GD. They love each other. Well, they got divorced. Yes, they did. It was love was real once, I guess. Dr. Phil. Okay. He always...
Starting point is 01:29:58 This is frequent. He uses all the time that Dr. Phil one. He always says, Dr. Phil, like Dr. Phil, I can't make anyone fall in love with you. What is that based on? I have no idea what that's based on. That's not a show. It's not a romantic. time that dr he always says dr phil like dr phil i can't make anyone fall in love with you what is that i have no idea what that's based on that's not a show it's not a romantic i mean like a romantic show it's not something he's like fixing couples all the time it's like no i have to imagine it's a venn diagram crossover of like a celebrity that all four quadrants understand yes and then it's a voice that's easy to do.
Starting point is 01:30:28 Gangnam Style, he definitely did Gangnam Style. I remember seeing him do it. This is the actual time capsule with all these Aladdin shows. We should just put all of them on one compact disc and bury it. And then that's all we need. And when we go back and read it,
Starting point is 01:30:44 we're like, oh, yeah. That's what it was like to be alive this is the ultimate collection of pop culture alright so I went I have two from the 2003 version now I had a question which is did the topicality ramp up as the years
Starting point is 01:31:01 went on because it doesn't seem like they did but was not absent from 2003. Do not worry. And I think there's a joke for me and there's a joke for Scott because those are the only two ones in the... And so the first one, he comes out of the lamp and he explains how long he's
Starting point is 01:31:15 been in there and he tells Aladdin that he's missed every episode of I Love Lucy. And it gets very little reaction even in 2003. Really confusing. And then this other one gets no reaction too And he says that he can't make Someone fall in love with you He tried it once and Liza Minnelli will never
Starting point is 01:31:33 Forgive me Wow A David Guest joke In 2003 I didn't get it right away Not a bad joke Oh man not a bad joke. Pretty good. Oh, man. Not a bad joke.
Starting point is 01:31:46 How do we tilt this podcast? There's no justification for us to do a David Guest episode, is there? We can find something. We're doing the El Capitan Theater because there's a Ghirardelli ice cream shop next to it. So I need an excuse. Somebody can shine a light on what the link is to make david guess the like please just i'll just do a bonus i'll give we'll give it away for free uh people who visit disneyland are known as guests right so yes thanks um do you have more no i just have
Starting point is 01:32:20 the two all i'm left is my twitter okay i gotta I got to hear a little more. Oh, yeah, go for it. Go for it. Oh, okay. Yes. Oh, wait. Okay. Okay, he calls the genie ShamWow a bunch. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:31 He does get a little political in the dreaded year of 2016. Towards the end, he says, the carpet flies away, and he says, I haven't seen a rug fly away like that since Donald Trump's hair on a windy day. You probably killed him. You probably killed him. a rug fly away like that since donald trump's hair on a windy day uh you probably killed actually the longer pause after a punch light the more i love it
Starting point is 01:32:55 it's just like that's so bad i'm just gonna like rest in the swim in it um there was that second to the last Aladdin performance, though, where the genie didn't do any topical material. He just sat down at the piano and sang Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah.
Starting point is 01:33:15 I'm not giving up and neither should you. Let's see. Something about three wishes because three is all you need all the best things come in threes wishes blind mice sharknado movies
Starting point is 01:33:32 he one of the big joke zones also is he's messing with Jafar who has to stay straight they don't let these people respond to the genie in any way so it's like a like hey can I make you crack kind of situation especially with Jafar who has to stay straight they don't let these People respond to the genie in any way As though it's like a like hey like can I make You crack kind of situation especially with Jafar um and in So a lot of disses of Jafar
Starting point is 01:33:51 Uh he wants to be an all powerful sultan Um alright fine here you go You're the sultan uh wanna be president To Kanye 2015 I think cause that's when he started talking about That uh huh um he Says to Jafar Are you mad because John Travolta 2015 I think because that's when he started talking about that he says to Jafar are you mad because
Starting point is 01:34:09 John Travolta mispronounced your name too I was there for that I remember that a little nod to the future Frozen show that will be replacing them yes Adina Mendel less well received the Frozen one.
Starting point is 01:34:25 I mean, partly because there's less generation. I mean, Aladdin was around for 20-plus years when this closed. So, like, the parents and the grandparents and the kids all liked it. Frozen opened, like, less than six years after the movie. Yeah, it's hard to... So, like, one generation likes it. That's true. I personally remember a lot of Honey Boo Boo references when I went.
Starting point is 01:34:45 I remember right after the Oscars, he made an Angelina Jolie's leg joke. Oh, right. The leg was out, hanging out of the dress. She stood in that kind of straight way. Do you think this show partly ended because you couldn't do topicality
Starting point is 01:35:01 in a post-Trump world anymore? Yeah. You know, the writers were just like oh all we could do now is just make trump but you're like john stewart who just kind of wasn't up to it and i've been at this shit for a similar run of time as john stewart yeah yeah i think you could map them perfectly over and that's why the genie is testifying before congress you could say we've been missing genie's comedic voice these last couple years And we've sort of needed it in the dialogue The genie might have been able to fix all of this
Starting point is 01:35:30 When I watch those old genie clips I'm like I wish he was still here to talk about What's happening now Genie gave that impassioned plea to Congress Last week though Yeah it was for the first responders of The first prince's pants being bit What?
Starting point is 01:35:48 The first prince who got his pants The back of his pants bit Year after year No reparations to repair the pants No We're not playing for the threads Raja I forbid you from having any daughters. What?
Starting point is 01:36:09 It's like the Raja understands English and is also like, you're not going to let me fuck? I'm going to fuck that carpet I here's a really here's a pretty specific one this is right before the stairs
Starting point is 01:36:32 march hey this is a come downstairs Madonna what did she fall she fell at something
Starting point is 01:36:40 or other yeah so other people falling was was fine. Oh, yeah. It's not the one that happened in our house. Also, I think that... Go ahead, Jason.
Starting point is 01:36:51 Oh, Hello Baymax or Hello I'm Baymax. Oh, yeah. They were doing that two years after Euro 6 came out. Yeah. Not to be the comedy police here or whatever, but I feel like there's a lot of punching down going on with this Aladdin show, right? A lot of ladies. A lot of non-white people.
Starting point is 01:37:13 I don't hear a lot of powerful straight white guys getting called to the bat too much here. It seems like there's little hegemonic families all coming in being like, please reestablish the status quo for us. Do you consider Baymax a white guy? At least it's all better than the Bill and Ted show, which when we analyzed it a little while ago, it was 90% very mean gay jokes. Actually, I was going to very mean gay jokes yeah yeah actually I was gonna bring this up
Starting point is 01:37:48 the thing I really like about Disney's well I'll say it more in the negative the Universal Studios I don't like their tone like their sensibility their sense of humor is sort of like
Starting point is 01:38:06 we pranked you we embarrassed you in front of everybody they'll get a volunteer somebody who's offered to help them and then they're like you're a piece of shit and everyone's laughing
Starting point is 01:38:21 I'm like what I love about and I know that's what Universal has to do like when you're the punk kid and not everybody likes you you have to act out to get attention and what I like about Disneyland is like
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Starting point is 01:38:51 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. thing about by felicia i still i never figured out what it was i don't know the source of it friday it's a character in friday everyone hates so why did it get popular like two years ago uh it's it's kind of it became popular like on on twitter as like a fuck a fuck you i think it
Starting point is 01:39:19 recently came up on black twitter was then uh taken by uh marketers uh by like nancy pelosi it was a long time shorthand for like you see you go fuck yourself basically but it has had a resurgence okay yeah all right well i've outed myself as having not seen Friday. I haven't seen it. Is Felicia Day in Guardians of the Galaxy? No. I know what you're thinking of. It's the other actor. Because I was hoping that the Guardians of the Galaxy ride next door would overhear.
Starting point is 01:40:03 It's Karen Gill karen it's not they're similar looking very very similar yeah he also says uh i like your weave carpet yeah he says that a lot no yeah yeah yeah i like your weave like your weave uh also he pronounces jafar the sultan and then said and end up beat and then sorry, Miss Philippines is the Sultan. A reference to Steve Harvey. Miss Universe. Miss Universe. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:34 The history of that movie. Yet another not white guy. And you know what? Oh, but he, hey, he punched, you said one of these, forgive me if I'm repeating the one you said. He took out Prince Charles. But he did some white guys because he said his chest was like the Patriots football. He had to press on it. Oh, yeah. He had to play it.
Starting point is 01:40:55 And he said, here, you play Tom Brady. Which, if you're listening, Mitch, I'm sorry. He's going to be mad. Mitch is like, worst fucking play ever. Refuses's going to be mad. He's like, worst fucking place ever. Refuses to go to Disneyland ever again. Great Disneyland. I always have.
Starting point is 01:41:13 So, I feel like to wrap up, what we should do is, this is the first thing Scott asked me when we met. He said, I heard you have a Twitter account for the genie from California Adventure. And I have it. You did do that.
Starting point is 01:41:30 Mike, I remember this, but I didn't know that was you. That was me, yes. What is the handle for people to follow? I think it's time. I haven't tweeted on it in literally eight years. Whoa. It's time for him to come back. It's at Topical Genie. Let him out of the lamp. Oh, my gosh to come back. It's at Topical Genie.
Starting point is 01:41:45 Let him out of the lamp. Oh, my gosh. Okay, Topical Genie. At Topical Genie. Topical Genie. And I think. I remember the picture. Can I see the.
Starting point is 01:41:54 Yes. Yeah. Wow. So, look, these are reading my own jokes, but a couple of them for you. Yes. There's no one more evil in Agrabah than Jafar, except the lawyers in the Casey Anthony trial. I'm like all with spat food out of my mouth. These are better. one more evil in Agrabah than Jafar, except the lawyers in the Casey Anthony trial. I like almost spat food out of my mouth.
Starting point is 01:42:08 These are better. They age. They sat in the lamp and they're even funnier. Yes, I'm a genie. Why all the questions? What is this? Jay Leno's 10 at 10? Wow! Whoa! If you reference the green car challenge,
Starting point is 01:42:24 I'll be really impressed. I think I did. did here riding on an elephant is the only way to travel Well that or participating in Jay Leno's Green car challenge I'm gonna just shake your hand So Now you guys know why you do a podcast So that's the shared sensibilities You can read all the rest of them here
Starting point is 01:42:42 But let's Tweet one out right now what do we think what's a topical sorry i'll put everyone on the spot here i was what the news now is all about concentration camps so if there's something lighter let's try to get away from that if we can uh i'm told the kids like something called fortnight oh fortnight's good okay all right Fortnite's good. Okay, that's close. Oh, wait, that's what I was thinking on the way over. Are there lives in Fortnite?
Starting point is 01:43:11 Do you have infinite lives? Yeah, you do. Okay, so then it's like, I can't make somebody come back from the dead. I can't. Make somebody come back from the dead. Back from the dead. Back from the dead. But I can start a new game of...
Starting point is 01:43:29 I forget what the term is. The waiting area or the lobby. I can only send them back to the lobby in Fortnite. Is it called a lobby? I think you're thinking too hard. I think it's just... We don't have... This isn't Fortnite.
Starting point is 01:43:39 There's no infinite lives. This isn't Fortnite. And I'm going to just... I would all caps it. This isn't Fortnite. Spelled F- would all caps it this isn't fortnight spelled f-o-r-t-n-i-t-e oh man f-o-r-t-n-i-t-e before this hold on let me tweet this and i'll go back i can't make somebody go back this isn't fortnight okay got it tweets uh last one 10 7 10 7 2011 and i can't raise the dead. Sorry, recently deceased
Starting point is 01:44:05 character actor Charles Napier. And then I just wrote FERBY in all caps. Whoa. Wow, the Twitter is back. I was asking because I love that somebody who follows that account
Starting point is 01:44:21 the last eight years forgot. What? Yes. Well, also, I had a less successful endeavor where we would tweet back and forth to each other. I was at
Starting point is 01:44:36 topical Green Goblin, a topical account based on the Green Goblin Spider-Man Turn Up the Dark specifically the Letterman appearance around the same time so we look at the replies well but that'll be come back too so yeah that was beautiful
Starting point is 01:44:51 alright well that's the start of a new well and so we can like we let's try to keep this alive we will this episode if the only thing it did was bring back topical genius topical green goblet I think we're in good hands really accomplished something you should come up with a topical genius topical green goblet i think really accomplished something you should come up with a topical uh oh yeah wait who else does jokes uh bill and ted
Starting point is 01:45:12 just shred just shrek in the waffle cart at universal studios i mean anybody could topical shrek topical donkey yeah topical waffle cart donkey yeah and all of the jokes have to tie into things you could order at the waffle yeah yeah that interaction thing
Starting point is 01:45:37 the you guys talked about it the et the ride oh yeah well that he would that he talked and uh uh my friend matt and his brother brad they went with their friend uh jeremiah and when they were leaving et was like goodbye matt goodbye brad goodbye friend yeah if it can't process one it just says friend uh maybe a good twitter actually also is just oh that's good too goodbyes
Starting point is 01:46:11 you just tweet and ask to be a goodbye yeah well neil campbell i remember cracking me up because he said et didn't know neil's name and he was like the one human who's left this earth and stepped on other planets, you should love Neil Armstrong. Maybe he's mad at him.
Starting point is 01:46:32 Yeah. Invading space. You should have a lot of respect for the one human. Well, there's been a few. Yeah. But the most famous. Oh, my God. Well, we've really achieved a lot here
Starting point is 01:46:45 So thank you for inspiring it Paul Rust you survived Podcast The Ride Thank you for having me Much appreciated What a fun topic And let's exit through the gift shop Is there anything you'd like to plug Oh yes
Starting point is 01:46:58 You know just follow me on Instagram And you can see announcements for fun stuff there yeah oh and also I have a podcast as well so if people like listening to podcasts I have a podcast with Matt Gourley that celebrates the Friday the 13th movies it's called
Starting point is 01:47:18 In Four He's We Trust with Gourley and Rust even if you don't like the Friday the 13th movies it's a fun listen if you don't like the Friday the 13th movies, it's a fun listen. Yeah, you guys are funny guys. It's awesome. And obviously,
Starting point is 01:47:31 follow us at... No, no, no. Topical Genie. Fuck that. Topical Genie. That's it, I guess, really. We should have a Gmail. Yeah, let's not even confuse it. We should have a Gmail
Starting point is 01:47:40 set up for him, too. If you want to submit your own topical jokes. Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah. I'll set that up by the time this is out.m topical genie he'll keep his d slide into topical yeah like a lot like during like uh one break ahead of the bread line he like slides he's like i haven't seen a side like that since my dm yeah which way did i go left Left, right? Or is this Tinder? Yeah Alright so let's not plug into Infinity, Ad Topical Genie
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