Podcast: The Ride - Doug Live! + Mr. Sheridan’s Wedding Ride with Jayne Claire

Episode Date: April 18, 2025

Jayne Claire returns to talk about her two LOVES: Jason Sheridan and Doug Funnie. (The Doug Funnie that appeared in a short-lived Disney's Hollywood Studios live show). "The Rules: Fake Office Final Four " episode is up at: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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stylist and my new wife, Jane Clara joins. It's me! How did you get in here? Shoo! Shoo! Baby! It's Doug live on Podcast The Ride. Well, don't you dare Let her do it No If you want to do it so bad

No I never do it I want to do it Then you get your joke out Okay Now's your chance though Jump in Welcome to Don't you dare

Yeah I like this I like this We're shaking it up This is good Yeah We're recording now This is part. Yeah. We're recording now. This is part of it.

Yay. Welcome to Podcast the Ride, the show where we try to embody the nobility of the humble quail. I'm Jason Sheridan, joined as always by Mike Carlson. I'm here, and I'm feeling humble, I guess. Humble and noble. And Scott Cariner. Yeah, I know. I try to stress the noble side more than the humility.

There's a lot of facets to cover. Yeah, there's a lot of nobility in what we do. And that's something we really need to dwell upon more. Yeah. Look in each other's eyes. Recognize the nobility. We're essential workers in the media, as we learned a few years ago. That's true. That was a good, I'm like, what from the world of Doug

can a joke be pulled out? And that was a very surprising one. Yeah. Yeah, no, no, excellent work. Thank you. You didn't quite slip it in there without your, as you said right before we started recording, blushing bride.

My beautiful blushing bride, let me bring her in. How often have you said that out loud since it happened? I said it now because I knew it would make her smile. My new wife, my love, Jane Clare is here. Hello. Hi. Hi. Welcome back, Jane.

Hello. Congratulations. Thank you. This is the first we've- No, obviously we've seen you, but we haven't seen you where it counts, on the air. Yeah. So here now with people listening, congratulations on your recent wedding ceremony. Thank you so much.

You have said blushing bride a few times in a cute way. Oh, thank you. You have. It's cute. I like it. Also, I want to say when he called me the ball and chain, I thought it was so funny. We say that all the time. The old ball and chain.

It's fun. I didn't take it personally. No, it's a thing. It was just, I thought it was, I forget what episode that occurred in, but I just thought it was funny to hear that phrase after like a long, like he's really milking it about your styling

and you're like, I think we were too offensive to the computer program where you pick Minnie Mouse's dresses, and Jason needed to inform us that styling is actually complicated. Very complex career, yeah. And that Minnie Mouse computer, I think, really disrespected it and kind of infantilized it in a way, and I'm glad these things were corrected.

That's true, yeah. So, look, Jason likes the old time language too are you were you a fan of the old time language before getting together with jason no um pretty quick no um he's so much about the 1920s i mean i like it it's always so funny when he says something sincerely and he uses a phrase and i have to like i have to go like could you explain that actually like I'm trying to stay sincere but I'm like I don't actually know what that means do we have what do we have a good one let's put you on the spot the other day I said something about radio silence which is a common phrase that's kind of a concept okay no that's no but I was talking

about the origins of like you Never want silence On the radio Is that what radio silence is? But that's not what I You've Like Gaunt when he says Worse for wear I don't even know He says worse for wear a lot

But that one I kind of know now Like gun mall He'll say Oh yeah That was unfamiliar to me Yes Yeah yeah Well you just hear mall

And you think shopping mall Yes I did not I never Whenever it was first said I did not have gun mall At the ready As the primary use of mall familiar to me. Well, you just hear mall and you think shopping mall. Yes, that's what I think. Whenever it was first said, I did not have gun mall at the ready as the primary use of mall. I'm not aware of what that is. This is what you are to him now. You're his gun mall, right?

Like a gangster's girl. Like a mobster's girl. Jason is a gangster and you're his girl. Big jacket, leopard print. Fur. A big mink stole. A lot of red lips. What anniversary is the mink stole anniversary? I don't know.

He's going to forget anyway. Jason's the squirrely gangster, apparently. Hey, what are you doing? He's the distraction. How often are you listening to Podcast to Ride and you hear him say something that younger people say and you feel like you're responsible for his knowledge of modern slang? Once in a while?

I love you guys so dearly, but I do not listen to every episode. That's okay. We're not requiring that. We're not requiring that. We're just saying if you listen ever. Do you ever hear a thing. You've said a few things where I'm like, oh, that's funny.

We were talking about that the other day. I don't know what, I can't think of anything off the top of my head, but yes, that has happened before. Because that's a theory. It's just a strange blend that we have with your husband here, where it is either,

it's a high degree of knowledge of slang from 2025 or from 1925. Right. And you just don't see this blend, I think, very often in people. And I can only assume that the 2025 comes from you. Thank you so much. And yes, I think that is an accurate statement. Okay.

I don't know. Well, thanks for bringing him to Modern Times. You're welcome. You're welcome. Also, thanks for bringing him to Modern Times. You're welcome. You're welcome. Also, have you been... I don't know how I feel about him in Modern Times, honestly. Oh, you're not sure? I don't care for it.

I prefer he didn't know anything. Because I think you've really stoked the fire of Jason being a man out of time. I think that's kind of the like... That's the brand that I've tried to cultivate for him. Sure. And I've cultivated by just existing. That's right. With a myriad of obscure interests.

Certain companies have more than one brand. That's okay. Hot Topic is Hot Topic, but also Box Lunch. So Jason is now Hot Topic and Box Lunch. That's actually a really good analogy. Hot Topic definitely is from the early 1900s. Right, right, yeah. Box Lunch is like from the early 1900s. Right, right. Yeah.

It's like a pretty good. Really old timey. No, it's, you know, well, it's gotta be, if you're going to department store, he's Hot Topic and he's Gimbles.

He's like some old, he's some out of date brand. I only know that from the movie Elf. Is it an, oh, really? Okay, because it's like a Macy's equivalent. Yeah.

I don't know the context in Elf, admittedly. I know just from Simpsons jokes. He gets a job there, and he overhauls their Christmas section one night, and they're like, did corporate come in and do this? And he's like, I did it all overnight. Oh, gotcha. Anyway, that's how I know Gimble's.

Yeah. All right. It seems like you might grab Gimble's catalogs from eBay or something. I know. Oh, I have a good one. I have a good one. I have a good one. So the other day we were like leaving the house and I went, oh, we have a package. He goes, oh, that must be my history of Kmart book buy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And I went, God, I love you so much. But I was like, you little weirdo. I bought a book about the rise and fall of Kmart. Oh, it must be my Kmart book. And I was like, all right. All right, babe. Local historian who lives in the Midwest. And I was reading, I forget whether I found him on Blue Sky or Twitter or what.

And I was like, oh, that book sounds very interesting. I'm fascinated by the rise and fall of the big box store, department store. We barely even scratched the surface of the ones I grew up with. James Way, Clover, Bradley's, Caldor. Hold on. Hold on. James, how often is each of these as their own thing? How often does Jason bring up Clover, Bradley's?

No, comma, comma. There's commas in there. Oh, boy. See what you're teaching us. Clover was what? Yeah. Clover. Did you think it was Clover, Bradley's? Clover Bradleys. No, comma, comma. There's commas in there. Oh, boy. See what you're teaching us. Clover was what? Yeah. Clover. Did you think it was Clover Bradleys?

Clover. Clover. Yes, that's exactly what I thought. I was about to Google Clover Bradleys. I'm not quite familiar, to be honest with you. I don't really know about these. This does not open the door. No, I'm just kidding.

Oh, okay. Oh, what is that phrase? What? This does not open the door to a new conversation. For discussion. For a long discussion. Do you know what that was? No, I didn't see it. Open the door? Are you the door to a new conversation. For discussion. For hello. Do you know what that was? No, I didn't see it. Open the door?

Are you guys serious right now? That's pretty common. I mean, I understand with context, but I've never heard it sort of said like that. Open the door to, oh, really? Yeah. Wait, this is a valuable thing. So I could say, Mike, this does not open the door to future puppet discussion. This is a very valuable phrase for me.

All right, I'm going to keep this right at the forefront. This is the weapon I've needed on this show for a long time forgive me isn't that like sort of a passive aggressive statement? I don't care it can be aggressive aggressive I need it I'm using it I need doors to close on puppet talk and a myriad of other

things on this show closing the door on any further 311 discussion I would love that I don't like that this even came 311 currently isn't a major runner on the show, but after any episode, it could be. What is 311? 311 is a song that's been banned

for the 90s, yeah. I don't know, sorry. Come original, down, you know, they had a... All right, Michael, we're closing that door. We have a lot to get to. Oh, I love it.

This has been a volume of doors. Opening a door, closing a door. But opening the door to Clover, a New Jersey and Delaware discount chain. Yes. No, go ahead. Let's open the door. Mike, say what you're going to say.

No, I don't want to. Yell it through the door. I don't want to. Yell it through the door. You reopen the door. No, I don't want to reopen the door. All right, fine. Do you want to talk about Clover or what was the other one?

Bradley's. Bradley's. Or James Way. Or James Way. Or does this all go against James Way, which I assume would be talking about your wedding. Yes. I mean, that's what we were, you know,

the episode's called Doug Live, and we will talk about Doug Live, a very important theme park show. Hold your horses, Doug Live heads. Don't, like, cool it. These people got married, all right? This needs to be discussed Relax skeeter heads

My first question is is this behind a paywall No this is main feed Okay Would you like it we can move it Obviously I want main feed I love attention and I'd love for you guys To follow me I'd love for you guys to comment We're getting plugs now

I need the serotonin, so please like my shit. I'll just say probably less since it's not behind a paywall. Not less, but less. Oh, no. What were you going to say? What were you going to get out there? I get very personal very easily, and sometimes I share too much. But we can edit.

Okay, that's true. Tell us. Don't hold back. Okay, that's true. Tell us. Don't hold back. We're in the room. We want to hear it. You can ask later. There's a few more people on the main feed. Hello, everyone.

It's not a massive difference. Thank you for listening. That's not so crazy. All right, well. Well, let's talk about the wedding. Where do you want to start? I guess it goes back to the fall. Yeah. Where do you want to start? I guess it goes back to the fall.

So in the fall, we took a trip to Jason's parents. We were at his mom and stepdad's house. And we both were having a little edible fun. And we were like, should we get married? Well, I was going back even further because we were having coffee. We're going to be here forever. It's an idea. This was such a wild idea to get married? Well I was going back even further Cause we were having coffee We're gonna be here forever It's an idea This was such a The wild idea to get married

Only drugs could have inspired it No no no We were having coffee outside with my mom And she said something offhand about marriage Oh she's like sorry I don't wanna mention marriage She's like sorry sorry I don't wanna put any pressure

And we were like no we've been talking about it Like you don't have to say it like it's like a Verboten Well wait if you've been talking about it. You don't have to say it like it's a weird thing. Wait, if you've been talking about it, then you've got to go back even further. Oh, God. We've got to go back to the very beginning. I love my wedding, but I really love Doug Live. It's up to you. Then you have to

personally scale it. Because we could talk about so many steps. Okay, yeah. So it kind of came up in conversation that night when we were getting ready for bed. And I was like, we were like, should we get married? And he was like, yeah. And I was like, should we try to do it on our six-year anniversary?

And he was like, yeah. And I was like, when we get back, do you want to go, like, get rings? And he was like, yeah. So, like, the week we got back, because I had already picked out a ring because I went with my friend Alexis. Shout out, Alexis. She's getting married in August. Now, when did it start for her? When was the first Alexis started? Well, this is good. I got to close the door on this. Close the door.

Close the door. Yeah, we're going to close that door. Love her. All right. I had already found a ring I like and I was like, hey, I know the ring I like. And we kind of had an idea for his. And we just went and like picked out rings and had them sent out for resizing. And then we were like, OK, we always kind of wanted to do a courthouse thing. I have never really dreamt of having like a big wedding. I think it's just a very personal thing. I don't have a ton of family. No one lives out here. And truthfully,

I don't like enough people to pay for them to come to an event. I'm not trying to pay thousands of dollars. I keep my circle tight. I have like five really close friends. And it's just like, I'm not trying to do all that. You need to know this about yourself. so five would be the cap if you were going to um yeah i mean the cap became zero but the cap became well it became one became one came one former podcast guest uh uh photographer former podcast and then he was our witness listen let me be clear andrew you're're never coming back. You're a former guest, Andrew. One and done. Door's shut, Andrew.

I just read he had been on it before. Friend of the show. Friend of the show. Friend of the show. Fine. Yeah, if we're going to examine language, text, we're going to be here all day. We have been doing that. We are.

We've been doing that for eight years now. That's true. Anyway, as you were saying, darling. Thanks. So he was also our witness because then we saved 20 because you have to if you don't have a witness oh i see i see the scheme here no no no no it was sweet it was really sweet i feel like we're both friends with him now like you've known him longer but yeah he came my birthday and like we both knew him so it felt appropriate i say he gained my birthday because again my i keep things tight i don't invite a lot of people um uh the jewelry store

also uh told us like when we were uh figuring out the rings i was like all right are there sales going on right now and they i love that this happened oh me too She said it too We both asked about it and they were very cool She went like well not right now But starting this weekend Like she's like If you can come back in a few days It was like 30% off or something

Yeah it was hundreds if not thousands Of dollars in savings So I was like yeah of course I don't mind waiting a few days like that seems very sure yeah great so we got that it was pretty cool um and then some stuff happened um some not so fun stuff uh and things kind of not got pushed off but you know we were kind of working through some stuff and then eventually i was like okay let's figure this out because you have to first get a marriage license which is its own appointment and only certain courts in la are eligible for these kind of things um so we really wanted to get married at the burbank courthouse but it's not one that you can get married at we ended up going with beverly hills because i think Nuys was technically the closest but for pictures

it's not really like as pretty over there and Beverly Hills was like maybe five minutes farther away and I know Beverly Hills a decent amount just from work and I knew kind of where that courthouse was and I was like I think this could be really pretty let's go get our license there and check it out and And so we did that. And then when we got there, you schedule the wedding. But they only do it a few days a week. So we kind of looked out. Originally, we were going to do, is it March?

March 14th. Oh, my God. I was about to say 6th. That's not our anniversary. It's not our anniversary. What a puff. On air foul it could have been. Oh, boy. Jason's in good graces

Say blushing bride again Lay it on thick You just wait You're doing great blushing bride I wanted to get married on a Friday I don't know why I just really liked that And the 28th was available And 2 and 8 are my numbers also

So it just felt right And they were like 10.45am And I was like sure why not And the 28th was available and two and eight are my numbers also. So it just felt right. And they were like 1045 a.m. And I was like, sure, sure. Why not? It's a perfect time for love. Traditionally, you can look that up. You could look that up in books.

And it is very fun the day they do all these ceremonies like back to back to back. Because all the brides and grooms are coming in and out. You're seeing each other. Everyone's waving and cheering each other on. You see the Star Trek ones. You see the old timey Western ones. Are these the other themes going on? I mean, I guess that's more Vegas probably.

I think you're allowed to do whatever you want. Yeah. I mean, you have to go through a metal detector. So it's probably best not to have even prop weapons a clear war blade yeah you're something blue can't be a blue pistol okay yeah yeah it can't be a detective special it can't be 38 blue steel detectives this is a problem for for mobsters and their gun malls you cannot get married at a courthouse you probably wouldn't want to get married at a courthouse if you probably wouldn't want to get married at a courthouse

if you're a mobster or a gun mall. Do you wait in an area with everybody after the metal detectors? You go up to, it's all on a certain floor and there's like some hallways and there's a big patio. That's the other thing. If you're looking for great views of the city, there's this beautiful balcony patio

at the beverly hills because i'm trying to figure out like layout wise how it how it i got this appeal like you know compares to city walk or a theme park quite small um it's on the fourth floor and it's the whole floor is dedicated to weddings but it's not huge you basically get out of the elevator and it's just one hallway to the left and there's the office, two restrooms, and the chapel. We're going to be able to rob this place

by the time we're done. We're going to know the exact blueprint layout. I don't know that there's anything there. There's nothing to rob? There's pens. I want the pens. I'm taking the pens you could everybody shut up

no I'm just kidding you're the blushing bride fine you can tell us to shut up thank you so much no there are props in the room you get married like a photo booth essentially yes so the room you get married in is not

like a typical courthouse room Like I thought it would just be Like that no So this is just a regular ass room But One of the walls is painted like Neon yellow And it says love is love really big

And then one wall Says like and they lived happily ever after With like stickers Wow it's like Disney And then one wall says, like, and they lived happily ever after with, like, stickers. Wow, it's like Disney. And then another wall just has this big, like, heart picture. And then in the corner, there's a fake wedding cake and champagne flutes. So, and then there's, like, green wall, like, green, those leafy green, what do you like? Like grass walls.

Like influencer walls. Yeah, like flowers. Not quite a step and repeat. And fluorescent lights. So I will not be using any of those pictures because it looks awful. It's famously beautiful lighting. No, it looked so bad. But the, is she willing to judge?

What was her title? She had a very complicated, like superior woman. You're going to need to produce it on the podcast or the wedding is not legal. I couldn't. I asked her, like, multiple times because I just assumed the title would be Judge. You asked her multiple times? Once again, ma'am, what is your title? Is this binding or not?

Because I wanted to know because I was interested. But she was very funny. I loved her. I thought, like, I really exaggerate because I was like but she was very funny. I loved her. I really exaggerate because I was like, we're going to walk in here and be an old white guy that I probably don't like because I just don't like men in general.

But I was like, send me some old white guys. I'm sorry for the room you find yourself in. That's okay. I have some exceptions. We're kind of boys that never grew up on it. I know. We're not old. Don't you dare include me in that.

Peter Pan. The last thing I want to be part of. But no, I walked in and it was an older woman of color. And I was like, this is the exact opposite of what I thought it'd be. And I'm so happy. She was really, really sweet. When we were doing our vows, we kind of just did them off the dome. I was like, if I write something that's not really vows, we kind of just did them off the dome.

I was like, if I write something that's not really how I roll, I'd rather just say some nice things. And Grissom took a cute little video of it. I feel like I should play a little audio of the vows or something. They're really sweet. But is that too personal for you? No, but do you have the time code? Yeah, because remember-

I wanted to watch this play out. Because remember- I'm stepping back. We sent it to my mom and sister. They edited clips. Meaning back from the microphone. Okay, well, we don't need to do it. But essentially-

You can send it to Mike and he can cut it in. Okay. That's true. Yeah, you can give Mike work to do. No, it's just really, it's really, really sweet. And I started crying a little bit and she like gave me a tissue and like, it was just really, really sweet. Did Jason compare you to, did he say that you have the proud nobility of the quail?

I fucking wish. That would have been awesome. That's why when you're going off the dome, you're not going to get a phrase like that. She told me weeks before, like, like okay you don't have right long vows or anything but no bits please i was like our wedding is a zero don't make this a bit well and then you texted all of us including aaron and lindsey and all of our responses included jokes and bits and you got mad at us for doing i did i said y'all can't take nothing serious, can you? And you guys were like, no. And I was like, man, I hate this. Lindsay herself said no.

But Erin saw the lovely photo of Mickey and Minnie standing next to each other with giant dilated pupils. Oh, my God. I thought that was a lovely wedding sentiment. No, you guys were really funny. You guys are so funny. We're cooking now. I love you, baby. The bride's watching now.

I love you, baby. You said that as if you were about to jump off a roof. The ship was going down. Love you, baby. You never know, really. You never know. You never know. So, yeah, I said, no bits.

Please don't make our wedding bit. We had one tiny bit in the pictures with the emergency exit that you really wanted to have. Yeah. I make one gentle joke in the vows, but it was tasteful. It wasn't a bit. Okay. Bit crosses the line. bit crosses the line. A bit crosses the line.

Does bit to you mean just like now a little voice is being effected? And now, listen, Missy, what are you avoiding with bits? Yeah, I mean, I was gonna get introduced by a simple Southern lawyer and then turn around and then turn back. You're gonna have a Matlock performance?

I now present this man to this here woman. Ladies and gentlemen of the wedding witnesses. That might have been nice. I did not do that. No, the vows were really, really sweet. Genuinely, I'm so glad. I saw him pull out his camera and I was like,

I'm really glad he did this because it was really, really sweet. They were just quick. It was really nice we'll get the file over it might get cracking on I'll do it I literally have the clip I sent it to my mom and sister alright y'all little boys talk amongst yourself

do your little skits give me a sec I do have a funny story which was two days before I ordered a suit online and that week I took it to Give me a sec. I do have a funny story, which was two days before. I ordered a suit online, and that week I took it to Milniti's to get tailored. And we went to pick it up. And who is the first person I see in the dry cleaners is Derek Waters.

Former guest. Oh, yeah. Yeah, former guest. Derek Waters. And I was like, oh, we're getting married. You know, he was very excited for us. And he goes, are you doing it at Disneyland or Epcot? So got my ass. Good question.

Fair question, certainly. It's a shame none of us did, you know, out of the three. I know. Because really you could, doing a quick thing, you could get someone that's ordained and kind of just secretly, not even secretly, do it at Epcot in a very nonchalant way that wouldn't draw attention

and you wouldn't have to pay, like, the thousands upon thousands of dollars that a Disney ceremony would cost. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a way to do it discreetly, like dumping ashes at Disney World. Exactly. You can do whatever you need in your life at Disney as long as you do it discreetly, like dumping ashes at Disney World. You can do whatever you need in your life at Disney,

as long as you do it discreetly. Where would you, Epcot specifically, where in Epcot would you want to get covertly married? Whispered during American Adventure while I watch Mark Twain and Ben Franklin shake hands. What? All right. Because that's what-

That's a good answer. It's a bonding forever, just like those men are bonded in the history of this great nation. Okay, great answer. My answer is after Sugar Ray is done performing every morning at the Garden Rocks stage in front of the American Pavilion,

do a quick thing where somebody, the ordained person just does the ceremony real quick. I thought you were going to say having Peter Noon say, hey, something's up in the fire over there. Well, that would be a second. Burning passion of love. Yeah. Hey, those two are getting married. Back to singing. Mrs. Brown, you've got a little better.

But then you get caught. You don't want him to see that. You don't want Peter Noon ratting you out. He's a rat. You're right. I don't trust him. I found it. It's probably a minute or two, so I can not play the whole thing. Or I can, and you can edit it. I mean, two minutes off of a phone does seem like a tough endeavor. Whatever.

If the audio's, I mean, it's up to you. I'm going to play all of it. Sure. Because I want you guys to hear it. Sure. Because it's really, really nice. And then you can honestly edit all of it out if you want. Oh, I don't want to cry.

I just want to say it's such an honor to be your partner, and I'm so happy to officially become your wife and be my husband. And you're so strong, and I look up to you so much, and I just think that you're so great, and I'm so lucky. I love you so much. I don't know why I cry and I'm so lucky. I love you so much. I don't know why I'm crying. I'm just laughing. Jane, I love you so much.

I said from the very beginning, from our very first date, that I could tell you had very good heart. And like any relationship, we've certainly had our ups and downs, our prosperity and our adversity. But we stuck it out.

And I just love you so much. And I'm so proud of you. And I can safely say this was the most positive online dating experience. That's a bit. He did a bit. He got a joke in there. That's good that he got most positive online dating experience. That's a bit.

He did a bit. He got a joke in there. It was a joke, not a bit. That's good that he got. He was still himself. That was a tasteful joke that everyone liked. That was nice. So we kept it sweet. That felt like scolding us for what we were imagining.

Not like what you guys would do, your skits. I knew she would like it, and that was the most important thing. Yeah. Oh, baby. Well, that was very nice. That was very nice. That was very nice. Yeah, no, no.

Thanks for playing. Yeah. No, I couldn't get through. We did a little thing in the living room when we got married, and I couldn't get through it. Lindsay was rock solid. I couldn't do it. You were crying? Yes.

Oh, you little emotional baby. I'm very emotional. No one knows. I'm not. This stern- Shut the door, Mike. This facade of Mr. Tough Guy. Are you emotional, really?

I don't want to hear it, okay? Toughen up. Mr. High T over here is kind of emotional. Is it related to my high T? I don't know. Could be. We don't know. It's related to how much blood you lose with constant checks of tea.

That's right. It's possible. Check me again, Doc. I'm anemic as well as having high tea. Are you anemic for real? No. Oh, okay. No.

No, no, no. I just have normal tea. It's normal. It's average. It's not piping hot? Well, when I'm spilling it, it is. See? That's a current thing. Yeah, you got it. That's not piping hot? Well, when I'm spilling it, it is. See, that's a current thing. Yeah, you got it.

That's not that new. That's an old phrase. That's an old phrase. It's more current than like- It's not like locked in. Everyone's locked in these things and stuff. I know locked in. I know what that means.

I know LFG, but that's old. These are old. Yeah. Your dress, you have not mentioned. Oh. Your dress. So I made my wedding dress and I was really happy with how it came out. I originally was not going to make my dress, but I was ordering all of these kind of short courthouse wedding dress vibes.

And like they either were like super cheap or fit me weird. And I was like, oh, I'm going to have to get this really altered. And I was like, I can probably alter this myself. And I was like, if I'm going to do all that work, why don't I just see if I can make it. And I prefer not to use patterns. I like to just go for it and do my own design and kind of build it on my body. And so it took me like the first month I made a dress and it ended up like falling apart so i actually restarted and with the dress that i finished with i did it in one month so i was like well that was crazy um but yeah it ended up like exactly how i wanted i was really really happy with like how both of us looked on the wedding i think it turned out great and um andrew you both look great really good thank you

no wonderful wonderful photos um with that experience would you recommend that if mike mike or i were to renew our vows should we take a stab at uh making our own tuxes absolutely you should is that her i said that jokingly you should i will speak for myself and say that's the worst idea. I'd love to see what mess y'all came up with. It seems hard. It'll be all patchy. It'll be like an old hobo from the movies. It is cute.

You can make patchwork work, you know? Well, maybe I will do it. Maybe I will make a suit. Sure. It seems fun in concept. I don't think I have the time. Sewing is really fun. I get very

quote-unquote locked in jason will be like i can't wait till you're done with this dress you can hang out with me again because i would spend the entire day like working on you have to have focus that's one of those things where you have to have a lot of focus yeah and i'm not always good with that like i like to draw a lot but like to be really good you gotta have so much focus and it's bad my brain is bad at that yeah i mean i'm not amazing at focus sometimes either but when it's something that i'm very passionate about and you know what i mean it comes a little differently sure you know what i mean so um so yeah thank you for mentioning that i was very happy with that we the night before

if you want to talk about this yeah we um stayed at the beverly hilton the historic beverly yeah we have stories i forgot when are we gonna get to done i was following it's up to you if you want to talk about this. Yeah. We stayed at the Beverly Hilton. The historic Beverly Hilton. Oh, yeah, we have stories. I forgot. When are we going to get to Doug? It's up to you. It's up to you. The ball is in y'all's court.

We can talk about the wedding and then maybe we'll take a quick break and then come back and talk about Doug. Okay. Let's get to fly through this because now I'm like, okay, let's get to Doug. Okay.

Not that I didn't love my wedding. So we stayed there and we were like oh this will be great kind of like a a chill fancy restaurant and we walk in and there are just people everywhere and there's clearly an event going on and i'm already stressed out because i i didn't start my lexapro yet uh i don't that's why i was like, do I talk about that? I don't know. I'm just fried. I'm just mentally fried a lot of times. And so I'm stressing the hell out because there's people drinking and stuff

up at the front desk where I'm trying to get to with him in the wheelchair and I'm like, move! We're actually checking in. I got crazy. Did you yell at people? It was so loud. It was literally so loud. There were hundreds of people. Well, because what was happening not crazy. Did you yell at people? It was so loud. It was literally so loud. There were hundreds of people. Well, because what was happening was the GLAAD

Awards were going on that night. And Beverly Hilton also home every year to the Golden Globes. So they have a very large event. There was a big party going on in the lobby. But it wasn't really a party. It was the line to get through security and red carpet. So we also did see a few people who were like, oh, I know who that is.

But then we went to the other side of the lobby where the lobby bar and gift shop were. There was no one. So is that where you hung out mostly? For a little. Yeah, we hung out a little. We had a very nice bartender, and we were all talking about baseball. Yeah, Dodgers game was on. How long were you sort of stuck in a line?

How long were you stuck in stuck in a line for like, how long are you stuck in the GLAAD Awards? As little time as possible. I was like, we just got married. Kind of like, wink, wink, do we get an upgrade? And they're like, do you want an upgrade suite? And I was like, yes, I do. Elevators are over there. Like, I was like, zoop, I just want to get to the room. Okay. And we were. There was an upgrade? There was. So they did give you the upgrade? Well, because we initially got a two bed because when we do hotels, we love our own bed. Like, I just want my own bed. And I was like, the night before our wedding, I want my own bed. And they're like, do you want this upgraded giant room that's a king bed?

And I said, yes, I do. Thank you so much. And the balcony was like triple the size of what we would have had. And I was right over the port couche, if you know the Beverly Hilton layout at all. So we were just kind of like right above that. So that was fun. And so that felt very special. You know, they had like robes and slippers.

And like, it was just so luxurious. Again, I had been there before for work, but I've never stayed there. So it was fun to be like, oh, I'm the special one. Like I get to stay here. I'm not leaving with bags and garment bags of clothes. Have you worked award shows

at the, did you say that? At the hotel or no? No, I've done like fittings there for people who are doing award shows but like pre,

pre award show, not nightclub stuff. Well, what's funny though is Ashley Crystal Hairston, shout out to her. Former guest. Former guest. Icon legend.

We love her. I am now styling her which is really, really fun. I love her to death. Former guest. Former guest. Icon legend. We love her. I am now styling her, which is really, really fun. I love her to death. It kind of just happened, and now we're like, I love her. And originally, she was going to go to the GLAAD Awards because they were nominated for the Fairly Odd Parents reboot that Lindsay Kaye tied. That's my love. My love?

I say my love so much. We say that around the house so much. Yeah, it's iconic. Now, I know it's been a little while, but I would just like to hear it. Would you mind? We say my love a lot. Would you mind calling her your blushing bride? Just imagine she's listening.

No, no, no. I'd like it to be on here, please. My blushing bride. Is that good? It was better than I could have imagined because it had that lilt. The lilt is what really sells it. I put that because you know what that is? That in that? Yeah, that's- It was better than I could have imagined because it had that lilt. The lilt is what really sells it. I put that's because you know what that is? That's the high T.

That's when you really channel the T is in the word bride. That's right. You're getting into Lovett's territory with that. Lindsay, my blushing bride. Oh my gosh. Anyway, I'll wrap this up. I just, I like-

Well, I have a, yeah, I have a Jason. Okay. Very Jason. Jason has a jason so initially she was gonna go and then a few days before she called me she's like they're not paying for us to go anymore so we were both really sad actually some really cool books lined up and then they won and i was so mad but the irony was i would have been there for the awards where i could have gotten her ready because i was already gonna be there so like i didn't even

like the just kind of worked out that way you could have split her ready because I was already going to be there. I didn't even... It just kind of worked out that way. You could have split time between Jason and her. Yeah. That's what you're saying. I truly would have because originally... Just leave him over in the bar area. It was a very long room. You know? A very long room and long balcony so I could have made myself

scarce. Yeah. The bathroom was huge. It was all giant. So I was like, oh, I wish she would have been able to go. That would have been nice. We ended up at the Beverly Hilton, and they did not. And that was very surreal. The irony. Okay, you can go now.

Okay. Here's the thing about- You may talk now, husband. Yes, wife. Thank you. Here's the thing about the Beverly Hilton. Here it comes. Yay!

Here we go. Here we go. Yay! Here we go. Here we go. Let's see the bill. Is there any talk about the bill? Is your neck okay? You were shaking your head when I said that. Let's keep an eye on that. Wedding night bills.

All right. Okay. For you. The worst pillows I've ever slept on. It was not good. It was surprisingly bad. You're on blast, Beverly Hilton pillows. What about the pillows?

They were just hurting my neck. They didn't really move much, and they were quite thick and lumpy, but they didn't have much cushiony to it, so it was just like a really uncomfortable rock that just didn't. Goddamn pillows. Do you realize whose heads are on top of you? This is a husband and a blushing bride, and you don't give them support?

We missed a giant part. Yeah. I'm sorry. We gotta talk about this. I'll talk about my stupid thing, and you talk about your big thing. So I was like, could not sleep. It wasn't pre-wedding jitters.

I am just like, I'm trying a pillow. I'm trying to pillow. I'm moving them around. I'm throwing them on the ground and balling up a sweatshirt. Like I could not sleep. So at some point I'm just on my phone and I ended up on eBay and I bought like a $4, $5 Woody Woodpecker Islands of Adventure opening year pin. And I'm like, I can't believe I'm doing this

the night before my wedding. What? I can. I can. First of all, I can. I love it. I was like, do you? If they bought that, I'd be surprised.

What time are we looking at? Is it 4 a.m.? 3 a.m. 3 a.m., okay. Wow. Did you take like NyQuil or anything? No. No. You've take NyQuil or anything? No. No.

You've got to be happy, Jane, that it's the night before. He's getting married in the morning, and he's up at 3 a.m., thoughts rushing through his brain. You've got to be happy that it's not like who else it could have been past loves. It's Woody Woodpecker from Huntsman's Adventure. Luckily, it wasn't Winnie Woodpecker. Oh, then you'd be in trouble. Oh, well. I'll pass.

I'll pass, yeah. I'll trouble I'll pass I was like yeah man I did not want this wedding to be stressful It was just like yeah okay cool Did you fall asleep Immediately after buying it A little while later Okay so that didn't like immediately Put you to sleep

No but it certainly like Calmed you Wow, I think. That's a nice, wow, wow. If that's what you need to enter. I think it's cute, actually. I meant to bring it to that. I totally forgot. When I started applauding and stuff,

what I assumed is that you were getting into this section about how much the parking cost and the hidden fees with the room. Well. Here we go. Now we're doing it. There are a lot of fees, but I was prepared for that but

then we we that after the wedding we went back to the apartment for the rest of the day and the night and then we stayed a couple nights just at a hilton in burbank just a hilton garden in burbank and they were hosting the glad awards night chill on. Well, don't get ahead of us. It's very chill. The food is like shockingly delicious. It's like really good at like the in-hotel restaurant there. But yeah, so your big thing that kind of thankfully- Well, you didn't get to what at the hotel we ran into.

Well, we'll circle back to that oh my god okay so on thursday when we're about to head to drop garfield off at boarding and you know last minute things and then go to the hotel to check in so garfield unfortunately you guys uh he's getting quite old he cannot see He does not like to be touched. It's gotten really, really sad. He's still our sweet little boy, but it's not been easy. I didn't realize that. Yeah, it's not been great.

But, I mean, he's okay. But, like, you know, you can tell he's probably like 11 now. That's not even that old. But, like, you know, it's like an older dog. Sure. He was sleeping very cute in a beanbag chair when we left that was so that was i'm saying did he did he go up to the computer and buy himself a woody woodpecker uh no he doesn't he can't see he the other day like our i don't not entertainment

system but we have like a block of cubes and he just i'll just see him. And he just, I'll just see him and his head is just in one of the cubes and he's just standing there. Like he just can't see and he'll just stare at the wall or like, it's really sad. But anyway,

the reason I say that is because I was trying to get him in the car which is impossible now because you have to pick him up and he like bites. It's really stressful for me. So I'm putting things in the car

and he gets away. He's on his leash but he like runs away and i was like oh you know crap why did i censor myself oh fuck so then i go open the door and i turn and we're in our parking garage that has these giant columns and there's one right by my car and i turn and i full force ram my head into the pole. Like full body weight. And I immediately start crying. And I have a very high pain tolerance. And I was so shocked and scared because it was literally like turning and running into a wall.

I was like, Jason, my wedding pictures. My wedding pictures. I'm going to have this big purse. I can't fucking believe it. I worked so hard on my skin for weeks. And now I hit the pole. pictures I'm gonna have this big purse I can't fucking believe it I worked so hard on my skin for weeks and now I hate the like I'm freaking out

I'm in shock I'm in utter pain I'm like am I gonna have a concussion but you did flash to the pictures before you flashed to yeah of course I did

do I need to go to the hospital are you kidding me guys I did red light therapy oh red light I wanna do red light Michael I meant to tell you it actually really works. I have a little wand. The door is open, everyone. It's the only

thing I notice that changes my skin if I use it every day. Really? Oh, I'm excited about this. Yeah. Like absolutely 100% red light. Give him your red light guy. No, no. I'll get a hold of it. I'll work on it. Mine was a gift, actually, from a styling event. So technically I didn't buy it. But it works really well.

You have to cough that up so i was like i did not work for weeks on my skin to have a fucking bruise on my forehead and by the grace of the wedding gods for whatever reason you could not see it i could feel the fuck out of it but it was like like just right at the top oh my god like like huge the most clear the most like clear area of skin on your face. Oh yeah. Completely available for a cartoon. I was like, oh God, this is going to be awful.

You couldn't see it. The only time I could see it was when it was healing. It was just this yellow circle. Like it still kind of hurts. And this was two weeks ago now. Two weeks ago Thursday. Yeah. So that was just like a terrible start.

And I was freaking out. I was already kind of frantic because we were, you know, taking Garfield and that's the whole thing. So I was like, oh, what a great way to start this like wedding adventure. I'm like concussionise. It's going to have bruise. The pictures. And I'm trying to hold her hands and do like, trying to remember concussion protocols of like, did you lose consciousness? Let me see your pupils. Blah, blah, blah. Do we need to go to urgent care? Yeah, look in the light.

Yeah, did they die in the light? Yeah. Yeah. But you said it was okay? It was okay. Dr. Sheridan ruled dial it? Yeah. Yeah. But you said it was okay? It was okay, yeah. Dr. Sheridan ruled that it was fine. Well, losing- I've been watching a lot of Dr. Odyssey lately.

I can get you through this. We actually are behind a few episodes. Maybe I can't get you through it. I'm behind a few episodes, but I'll try. I'm behind a few episodes. Look, I've eaten shit a few times the last few years, and I've, like, on the phone, like, seeing if I need to come in.

Sure. You know know they do a basic questionnaire like the main thing is like did you lose consciousness did you black out did you have spots in your eye in this case do you remember Doug's last name do you remember the town that he is from Hinkton Hinkton what is his home what is Doug's home address 21 Jum address? 21 Jumbo Street. 21 Jumbo Street. 21 Jumbo Street. It's a very important song. We'll get there. So, yeah, that was kind of like a startling start. I'll say. It was really scary.

And then I'm like, time to drive to Beverly Hills. Like, I guess I'm just gonna go. And it ended up like being okay relatively. But like, Jesus, that hurt. And it ended up, like, being okay relatively. But, like, Jesus, that hurt. And it just scared the crap out of me. Like, I was immediately just, like, in a wall. I was like, oh, my God. Like, I was so startled.

I just started crying. So I just wanted to mention that because we were like, why? How? Like, I was like, I worked so hard on my skin. It looks great. This is not fair. Like, I was so mad. But the skin, if you hadn't worked

as hard maybe it wouldn't have absorbed the i think the red light made you it helped it's super charged yeah i think so it's really good point yeah if maybe that proves with enough red light therapy you can purposefully bang your head on a concrete that makes it strong skin yeah yeah and you'd be fine yeah it like i literally just like touched it to be like oh and i'm like oh it hurts a lot i'm sure like it hurts a lot anyway um we went we so we stayed at the hilton it was kind of a gloomy weekend that weekend and we're like oh the hotel's like empty we We have a place to ourselves. And we were just kind of walking outside. They had a fire pit. We came back inside.

And there was just a giant, there was a greyhound parked outside. Inside, there was just a giant high school cheerleading squad and all the parents and chaperones. And the what now? Chaperones. parents and chaperones and and the what now uh shepherd shopper wrongs just say chapel ron just say chapel ron then it's right yeah there's a bunch of chapel roads and all the cheerleaders and all the chapel ron and we're like it feels like wall to wall of the lobby it wasn't just like a circle i walked in and i went god oh god oh, God, not this, not this.

And we tried. Sorry. I'm sorry. But the other thing I learned that weekend that was in hindsight kind of embarrassing. But like, look, I'm on a lot of medications for various things. And, you know, Mike's birthday a few weeks before it, I had a single beer and I was fine. And I had a gin and tonic and it just felt like I had four gin and tonics. And that happened the night before the wedding. And I thought, well, it's probably just exhaustion and jitters.

And then a couple nights later, we walk into this lobby that had previously been no one in there and now it's just not which hotel are we at now that's not that's the one you the later one yeah that's not okay i tried uh a couple times but like we walked in the full lobby and it's like all right let's get drinks same thing happened i am just like dizzy i just don't feel well but when you see a crowd or was it before that it uh what do you know i'm saying the gin and tonic did it interact with whatever i was on and so uh yes so for epic universe i am gonna be a messy little soda boy. Not a messy little gin boy. Not a messy little gin boy.

I'm sorry to say, Scott and I are going to be pounding shots when we're at Epic Universe. We can get a hammer. Jane, if you want a hammer. No, no, no. Honestly, I don't drink. I also had one drink, but I don't drink. I don't like it. I also have medications that affect. I feel drink. I don't like it. I also have medications

that affect, like, I feel awful. Like, I don't enjoy it, so it's not like I miss it. I hate it. That's a bummer. Yeah, it really makes me feel awful. Like, one drink and I'm like my stomach is killing me. But you know, this is me with edibles. Me with edibles too, unfortunately.

See, I'm the opposite. Takes all kinds. That's right. Well, we're going to do... We're going to play beer pong with Vincent Various in Celestial Park. Wait. Well. That character is not happening anymore.

Is that official? Do we know that? No, I'm telling you. I know for a fact it's not. I hate people who don't believe me. No, I'm just saying I suspect that it was. I'm not saying I don't believe you, but you have this intel that Vincent Various... I have inside information that... that Vincent Various is dead.

Is Vincent Various, what's the Star Wars character who didn't make it, Admiral Constable Zubio? Constable Zubio. Is Vincent Various the Constable Zubio of Celestial Park?

Well, but we don't even know, we knew what Zubio looked like because we had a toy of him. We didn't even find out what Vincent, what old Vincent looked like. So there might be a picture of him somewhere,

yeah, but it's not public. The tea is, they worked and rehearsed for all of the Celestial Park entertainment for 10 weeks. And then all of a sudden they said, all of this is scrapped, goodbye. And they just cut all of it. So they were supposed to have a lot of stuff.

Yeah, that's what we heard. Some people saw it. At this rate, if it truly has disappeared, Vincent Various will immediately move into the ranks of Mighty Akron. One of these things where the only available results are us talking about it. Because we're the only people who seized on it in time. We should really try to get Universal to sue us by putting out a series about Vincent Various. Like try to put a narrative podcast. To reference something that Jason references from time to time, Chinese Democracy.

When Guns N' Roses had. Guns N' Roses album. Guns N' Roses had long said they were going to put out this album called Chinese Democracy. They never made good on it year after year. Ultimately, the offspring said, we're doing it. We're putting out an album called Chinese Democracy. That's their sense of humor. Snooze You Lose, which I always thought was funny.

But that's what we got to do. It's like, okay, if you own Vincent Various, do something with it. Put him in the park. Otherwise, it's up to us and our great imaginations to imagine adventures for Vincent Various. What does he do? What would he have done? Well, he was... Sorry, you know

this answer? No, no, no. I had something else to say so please continue. Oh, I was just gonna say that I think this is dangerous because there might be 15 more minutes about Vincent Various. I'm just gonna... Just letting you know it's a courtesy i'm just saying the vince for us i think he was like sort of in charge of all the the different establishments in celestial park and he refilled the soda for the messy little soda boys he will yeah he well he would have somebody probably do it he's in charge but he's started so he possibly the time cards but captain cacao at my the explorer travel the cosmos trying to find treats for the-

Right. Well, these guys got to be cut too, right? Well, no, but they're on the merchant now. But Maya's got to be out. There's no plush on Maya. Maya might be out too, though. I don't even know who that is. I only know because I Googled something to do a specific joke about in our episode about this.

Well, we're Vince. We own Vince and Various now as far as I'm concerned. Yeah. Unless Universal does something. We'll give them eight weeks. We got it. We got it. We own Vince.

Eight weeks from now, if they don't show anything. Make good show Vincent, proof of life, show that he is, he exists, or else he's ours. You know what?

I'll see if I can find out any information. Here's what I'll say. Orlando live show. Yeah. Vince and various will appear at our live show. That's a good thing to just declare right now. You will meet.

You will. Maybe the big dog in town isn't going to let you meet Vincent Various, but that's a podcast that I promise. An art show? Yeah, we make good on that. I don't know which show of those two shows. What kind of entertainers would we be if we didn't allow you to meet Vincent Various? You will meet Vincent Various at the Podcast the Ride live show.

We are playing with fire. Comcast NBCUniversal is going to send the woman in the yard after us. Comcast, you bring that woman in the yard. Bring it on, I say. You're going to be playing with your Ninja Turtles. Podcast the Ride IP. And you're going to hear, today's the day. And then you're fucked.

Well, then we will take control of her as well, this character, Woman in the Yard. That movie is actually really sad. It represents trauma. I bet it is. We're going to make it fun. We're going to make Woman in the Yard a blast. I just have a quick idea for something they could do with these characters that might be cool

if they were able to budget-wise or whatever. It would be really cool to have them as atmosphere characters in City Walk to kind of share Celestial Park vibes and get people interested in the park and incorporate it a little bit. Wouldn't that be kind of cool? We would like it. It would be cool, but I wonder for Dad,

who wants to have a couple beers at the NBC bar and grill, if he might be a bit confused. If somebody stumbles out of the hot dog hall of fame and like, you there, you look like a man who might be interested in what lies beyond. What if I told you there were five portals nearby? Why the names various? I have a house at the end of the Andromeda Strain. Why, sir, right this way. I like original characters for the preview center.

Like, they bring people in. Bring me to the greatest preview center of all time. I'm just saying, I feel like that could be... No, this isn't related to what we were talking about. My car is a moonbeam. I love that. I love that. This is great.

All right, there'll be three Vincent Variouses you will meet at the podcast. Various Variouses? Meet a the podcast. Various Variouses? Vincent. Meet a Various. Various Variouses. Assortment of Variouses. Vincent Variouses. Yeah.

And they're all Dream Finder-ish. Hello. Well, with the Tesseract and Time Portals, we all exist simultaneously. Thank you, Vincent. In various stackable dimensions. I eat three rainbows a day. Alright, so I'm going to reel this back in a little bit.

Sure, yes. The door's cracked open a little, but we're closing it. Let's kind of mute it. No, I'm just kidding. These are the kind of bits you're avoiding is why you don't want any of this rafferty. I literally sat here and I went I'm gonna give them A little bit of time

To do this Let the boys run around Get their energy out They're feeling Remy Get it out People are gonna be psyched There's gonna be a line Out the door

At the tin roof in Orlando To see Vince and various There's gonna be a line Out the door to see you guys People love you guys So much Yes that's true But there's gonna be

An extra Yeah the line is gonna Explode The line is gonna Dwarf our line Yeah Suddenly it's going to be an extra energy in the air. The line is going to dwarf our line. Yeah. Suddenly it's a line of thousands. It's what the theme park would have gotten. Exactly.

But we get it now. It's ours now. We're going to create such a fire hazard. There's going to be a bit. That room full of cheerleaders you guys are complaining about, that's going to be nothing compared to all the Vincent Various fans. 2,000 people trying to fit into a venue meant for 300.

That's right. Well, it'll be a good show. Pray for no fires. Vincent will protect us. I can ward them off. I control ice. Did we forget anything? That's part of me too.

About the wedding? The only thing I was going to say is the cheer parents after everything died down were at the bar watching the videos and clearly like, oh, that couple's

not going to stay together. They're like having problems but they're together because of their kid or like that crazy mom is yelling at the other crazy mom because this so we were kind of just observing at that point like these parents are kind of crazy was there any of that even at the at the other hotel of like oh you said you noticed a couple people were there any there were famous people there were there other people you were sort of like oh we'll do people watching while i did not we didn't i wanted to get the hell out of there we didn't catch anyone and then the bar everyone was just kind of like chilling watching the

dodgers okay so it was more you were more watching the parents of the cheerleaders it was just funny because we were at the bar and um i'm like oh jason i think these are all the parents that are having their various reactions to their life being this. They all just seemed exhausted. All watching the videos. They did. Sad life. A trial.

A ride on a bus. It's a long day. A competition day. I think it was that. They said it was that. The competition was at William Burroughs High School. John Burroughs High School. John Burroughs.

Excuse me. William Burroughs. That's a good sense. He always got Frawley on the mind. Just a little. William. Always. That's true.

Dreaming of him on his wedding night. Was there any, but there wasn't any commotion as far as in the middle of the night. Both of these groups, there wasn't girls cheering down the hall at midnight. They were a little noisy. You slept through it. Really? You didn't hear them. I heard them.

You called it? It's just kind of going to and from the elevators. They were chanting. They were spelling everything they could get their eyes on. Oh, no. Those cheerleaders can't stop spelling shit. X, I, T, exit, exit. H, I, L, T.

Hilton Garden Inn. Hilton Garden Inn. You're a little too good at the cadence of that were you a cheerleader does he do I'll start I'll start busting out

the old videos amazing um uh oh oh this is what I was gonna say we got off the elevator and all of the elevators

kind of look out to the pool and we were like oh the pool and I turn and look and it is just flooded And we were like, oh, the pool. And I turn and look. And it is just flooded with teens. And I went, oh, God, the teens have taken over. And then I turned around.

There was a cheer dad. And he was like, yep, there's 46 of them. Like, it was just so funny. So I was like, oh, God, they're like infesting. Infesting. Infesting. Infesting. They were everywhere.

And it was just so funny because the dad was standing there leaning against the wall of the drink like, yep, there's 46 of them. He was ready to go. Quint and Jaws or something. There's 46 of them out there. It was just so funny. You would have rather that the hotel had bed bugs.

It was going to be infested by anything. I checked the beds. I always check the beds. How do you check? Do you check the corners? You pull back the sheet. Because you would see them, you're saying. You could check the mattress.

Right. I was just wondering if you had a machine or something that could do it. No. You can get a cheap blacklight pen, but that's different. You don't want to do that in a hotel. No, no, no. Yeah, you don't want to do that. No, bad news.

Plausible deniability is the way to go. You know it would be really, you'd never sleep in a hotel again. How did it get here? How'd that big splash get up there? Yeah, it would be shocking. Can they crawl walls? How did they do it? Yeah, no.

Even in the nice hotels. Yeah, especially the nice hotels. Especially the nice hotels. Weird stuff goes down. Oh, oh, oh. At Beverly Hilton, we were on the same floor and mere rooms down from where Whitney Houston died. Multiple people in the elevators. Like, it's a really big thing.

We're, like, going to chat room 434. So people stay in that room? Yes. Yeah, we heard it kind. I think it's been fully renovated and stuff. Room 434. Do they tell people, like, by the way, here's your room key? Just so you know.

No, it's just pretty infamous. Yeah. But people obviously are in there every night. Yeah. But would you, I feel like if I, hotel staff, I think you would not encourage telling people that. But some people go to see it. And it's like an attraction. But I see what you're saying.

We don't know what room JFK and Marilyn got. They were on a chocolate bar. Oh, Marilyn and JFK would go there to fuck. The affair? Do you think they had many different, I assume if they went more than once, they would have different rooms? Or do you think there was the same suite? I don't know.

Yeah, I don't really know. But they were- But didn't they also go to Frank Sinatra's Palm Springs house as well? Yeah, probably. I'm sure. I don't know. As far as I know, I think they went to that house too. You know more about this than I do.

I just be- Yeah, you got a big leap of info I do. I just said what I know. You got a big leap of info on this. They just be fucking, you know? So in the room, there's a candy bar at the Beverly Hilton, and it has a black and white picture, like you can buy it, of JFK in Maryland. Oh, really? Oh, and then a documentary about, what was it, JFK started playing on the TV, and I was

like, I'm freaked out right now. This hotel is haunted. I started freaking out. Do you remember that? Yes. Because I was like, oh no, he's coming through the TV and I was like, I'm freaked out right now. This hotel is haunted. I started freaking out. Do you remember that? Yes. Because I was like, oh no, he's coming through the TV. He wasn't killed there.

Just don't go to the courthouse in an open top car. Oh my God. No, no. Avoid the- My beautiful pillbox head. Don't book the Ambassador Hotel. The hotel in Burbank,

I did watch a lot of my favorite, The Food That Built America. This is a romantic wedding weekend. I like that show too. She was dead asleep. She likes it too, and then she fell asleep. One day I slept the whole day,

and I kept apologizing. I'm like, I'm sorry. What's the whole, you mean literally from morning till night? I slept a good chunk of Sunday. Like I really did, because I was just so fucking tired. Oh, we didn't keep adding these things i don't know um the day we got home from the wedding friday it was still early in the day and i immediately asked

for alone time because i was so like overstimulated so we got married we took our pictures we came home we like we're like oh that was crazy I went, so can I have alone time now? Because I just need to decompress. And he was like, yeah, sure. And we just went our separate ways for a while. And I just think that's funny. And then we took a nap. I don't know.

I feel like I'm sucking on this podcast today. Not that. I feel like I'm not killing it. You're doing great. We came home. Tell her she's brushing bread. Yeah, it's a beautiful, beautiful, blushing bride.

Beautiful, blushing bride. I don't know why I said it. Come on, Jack. Come on. Joe Biden. You can't have a bride that's not blushing. She's got to be a blush.

Beautiful, blushing bride. We came home, put on sweats, and watched like Ordinary Adventures or Miss Tomorrow, whatever we always put on. Yeah.

You know? I was just like, all right, everyone leave me alone. I was like, I don't want anybody talking to me. I want a full log

of everything that was watched in all, I think you owe the listeners every single piece of material. There was some ancient aliens in there. We watched Family Guy the night before our wedding.

We did watch Family Guy. Good. I was worried some of these were going to fall through the cracks. Fuck off, Scotty. Fuck the fuck off, man. Some listeners living vicariously through Jane right now I will leave this room and you can finish

Jane needs alone time no but actually no what was funny is Family Guy the TV was so big and you could see it from outside because I stepped outside to like smoke and the way our room was you could see right into it with the windows open. You could see the Family Guy TV that we're watching from outside.

From downstairs and from the freeway. I feel like they could see it because the TV was so big. I just thought that was funny. People walking on the street could see Quagmire. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of construction going on around the hotel. It was so big. I was like, I'm watching this from outside. Right.

We watched some good Family Guy. I have to use the hotel. It was like so bad. I was like, I'm watching this from outside. Right. Yeah. So we watched some good family guy. All right, well I have to use the bathroom. Okay. Yeah. All right, well let's all piss and shit

and then we'll come back for some, talk about Doug live. Okay, now, now that that's all out of the way. Boy, that was a rough,

do not go in there woo oh the shitting and pissing right yeah that's not what you meant I don't know what he meant that's what I thought he was referring to I just showed you at the wedding

nevermind I love you acting like it was hard to pee I'm just glad you liked it because something I like to do is just like when I'm with my friends just like say Jim Carrey quotes and get everybody to crack up it's just something I do

I don't know I'll keep doing it I'll try to weave one more into the episode smoke a head okay now let's talk about Doug live ran just the basic facts Doug live ran and mournful here is you let's talk about Doug look we both have a lot

to say about Doug live try to we're joking we'd keep it succinct but Doug live ran at Disney MGM Studios from March of 1999 until 2001, I believe May of 2001. Short run in the theme park. Short run. This was a live musical experience based on what at that point was called disney's doug yes it having the it was one of the fundamental primary nick tunes yes part of that original uh huge hugely popular block with ren and stimpy and rugrats uh and then kind of a strange thing

where ren and stimpy fell off and moved around for the various reasons that it did. Rugrats, still one of the crown jewels of the Viacom empire. Doug moved. Weird. Like, whatever moves from Nickelodeon to Disney. Well, there was this strange, like, I think they did four seasons on Nickelodeon. Yes. And then it switches over to Disney.

They bought the production company, seemingly. And then they start airing it on, not on cable anymore, but it gets the bump up to network. Doug went network on ABC's One Saturday Morning. Yes, and I was a huge Doug fan on Nickelodeon. I loved it so much. I remember the premiere of Doug and Rugrats and Ren and Stimpy.

I definitely remember my childhood before and after. I remember explaining premiere of Doug and Rugrats and Ren and Stimpy. I definitely remember my childhood before and after. I remember explaining to my dad, there's these new things now. There's these shows, and it makes me very happy. My childhood is better now because there are the shows. Nickelodeon had original cartoons. They'd never done that before. They showed a lot of Hanna-Barbera stuff and Mary Melody. It was all Inspector Gadget. It was repurposed Inspector Gadget. A lot of Gadget.Barbera stuff and Mary Melody. It was all Inspector Gadget.

It was repurposed Inspector Gadget. A lot of Gadget. A weird show with the koalas. But now Nick is doing its own things. But one of the main Nicktoons becomes a Disney thing? It's crazy. It becomes a Disney thing. I specifically remember the premiere.

And the weeks after, I'm like, oh, this block is, they're all on on Sundays and I have to go to church. And so I'm sure I was taping them. So you mean the new Doug? No, the original Doug, the original Nickelodeon Doug. Oh, okay. Premiered in August of 1991.

Okay. And you- I also premiered in August 1991. Oh, yeah. So we've discovered that my introduction to Doug was Doug Life. Oh. I was too young to know the show. You were more of a Disney Doug.

That's where it falls off for me. I don't know what's going on on Disney Doug. I don't know what happened. I don't know anything about Disney Doug. I knew a little, but I always viewed it as kind of a false Doug. Whoa, whoa. These are fine words. What do you think of that, Jane?

This is opposites attract. Go ahead. To be honest, I'm just like, yeah, that makes sense. I don't really have anything to fight about because I'm just so much younger than you guys. So it's just, I'm so much for you. So honestly, I'm really patient with you guys because you have a different lived experience than I do. That's true, yeah. You put up with us older men.

Where's a bunch of older men. Well, we say that to mask that we know we're old, old men inside. Not talking about skincare five seconds ago. Have I pointed this out that either, because you obviously do the thing of like, you know, appearing youthful and hip,

but there's also a lot of time, and I especially noticed it while I was gone, that you do a lot of like, well, as an older man, now that I'm aging. That's such a good impression of Mike. Now that I'm getting a little bit,

that I'm getting older in years. Thank you, Jane. You really fucking got his ass. You really knew. Jim Carrey and Mike. But that's like, you either fall into into overcompensating or over saying that you're old.

Yeah. I think that's probably right. I don't know. It's an issue. It's on your mind. It's what we need, all that red light to blast out of your brain. If we could, yeah. Well, I want the-

That's how it works, right? If we get the eternal sunshine technology and just get the fact that how old I am out of my head. It's not, you don't want to reverse aging. You just want to get rid of the part of your old I am out of my head. It's not, you don't want to reverse aging. You just want to get rid of the part of your brain that is aware of the aging. Yeah. I don't know why, yeah.

Seems like it'll come back. I think when you're, when you're in your 80s, you'll remember your aging. We'll get you on a, we'll get your Roblox account. You know, we'll get you. I don't want to go back that far.

We'll get you, no, we'll get you in the Minecraft movie screenings. You'll be throwing stuff. You think I can get fooled into thinking i'm like eight yeah yeah you play with toys it's probably not gonna be that hard oh yeah but they're characters from 40 years ago so it's confusing it'll be confusing so yeah so doug was very big for me when I was very young. Then we switched to Disney. I was like, okay, Patty Mayonnaise has a new haircut. That's fine.

I'm sure some people saw it. It's not a Felicity situation. It changes everything. Scott, I was just about to say, I'm sure some people, I thought that was fine, but it always bugged me that Doug's sleeves got slightly longer. I didn't care for that. I saw a picture of it. I said, that's got slightly longer. I didn't care for that. I saw a picture of it. I said, that's not for me.

I don't care for it. They're trying too hard. This isn't Doug. Doug is awkward. Doug wouldn't do this. He's out of step fashion wise. I'm on the way to see Mystery Man at the movie theater. I don't care about Doug.

This is not my Doug. Generation's Doug. But then after a while, as I was looking up all these timelines so Disney buys jumbo pictures right around the same time they buy ABC and they're like we'll put Doug in our Saturday morning block and by the time Doug the musical premiered, and right around that time, Doug's first movie came out, I would have been 13. So five-year-old and 13-year-old, while I clung to a lot of my interests,

I was already kind of dug in on the Fox. In, ha! Doug. Doug Funny in on the Fox. No, it should have just stayed. Fox. Okay. Flushing Bride's right. We're going to talk, Melis.

Listen, Ball and Chase. Okay. We fight so much. Oh, yeah. I don't know what that meant. That had such an air to it. I don't know whether to believe it or not. We really don't fight a lot.

We're very good at communicating. Yeah, we communicate pretty well. I was already kind of had my heels dug in on the Fox Kids Kids WB war. There was a war? I feel like there was a war for Saturday morning ratings because CBS kids and ABC kids, they were both also doing cartoons, but mostly Disney stuff. Yeah.

Now that said, recess was pulling me away. I was a big recess kid. Oh, huge recess kid. Yeah. Love recess. What year does recess premiere? Because I feel like I miss Recess

Mid to late 90s I feel like I've never seen an episode Really? Never Who's the voice of the main kid? There's some famous younger actors 97 is Recess Okay

Original Doug voice By the way, Billy West. Long time voice actor, Billy West. And it's such a sweet, vulnerable performance. I think that probably we all hooked on to, to some extent, that he is this awkward, shy kid who imagines being less awkward and less shy. And whereas so much of Billy West's work is more bold and crazy.

I mean, I guess Fry is on the awkward. Fry's in his own. Fry's kind of a grown Doug in a way. That is a good point, yeah. But it is such a, I don't know, it's a very soft, tender kind of performance. And that just really shows his range. Lives in his head a lot.

Doug always imagining himself a superhero or a secret agent. Big imagination. Journaling a lot. More confidence in kind of the original Walter Mitty. That is a fictional story from the 40s and 50s. We're going to put up a hit motion picture of Diller. A hit Diller, yeah.

Do you have, here, I guess, how am I going to put this? I don't have so much attachment to Doug now that I'm like, oh, I got to show this to my kid. There's other cartoons that I feel like I'm still more attached to in my adult years do you have I'm saying um is this similar to you or do you really have a strong attachment to Doug I don't really remember a ton of the original Doug either I was looking on like you can find Disney Doug on Disney plus you can find the movie and the few seasons of TV but not original Doug you're saying but

original Doug I don't know if it's up. I'm sure they're all up on YouTube. I know Quail Man. I know the names of the characters. I know banging on a trash can. Yeah banging on a trash can. The Beats. I know the Beats is a concept. But I don't know that I can name an episode for it. I don't remember. And I had really

lost a lot of the character names until this episode came up. I recall them now. Yeah. I know Skeeter. I know his friend Skeeter. Skeeter. Roger Klotz.

I know Roger Klotz. The villainous Roger Klotz. That's right. Patty Mayonnaise. I wish we didn't have to meet him in Doug Live. I know. But unfortunately, he's part of the production. Unfortunately.

Interesting fact. There's some cool projection stuff going on in this. And Skeeter and Roger and Patty kind of come out of the projection. Goosebumps every time when I saw it as a kid. Fuck, I was like, oh! Like, every time. Wow, really? How old were you when you saw it for the first time?

I don't know. What does that work out to be? I guess 99 or 2001. 99. Well, just do the math backwards from being so much younger than us. Just start there and then go back to 99. No, yeah, probably like, what, eight or nine then? I feel like I was younger than that.

But, oh, every time. I was so fucking stoked. Wait, sorry. Doug is like journaling or drawing as he is in the opening of both iterations of the show yeah and he draws his friends and then they burst out of his notebook pages and live on stage in front of you and that's kind of the biggest that's probably the biggest like special effect like production value of this of the show yeah now you saw this a lot like Like, tell us about your connection to this. Because when I was little, we lived in Orlando from, like, five till maybe 10, 11 years. And we had passes.

And my, like, whole family would go every weekend. And we always saw this show. This show was really sentimental to my whole family. We still sing the songs. I went, Mom, I'm going to do this show and talk about Doug Live. She went, oh, my God. And I was like, Mom, no, I think everyone hates it. She was like, why? And she started singing one of the songs. I went, mom, I'm going to do this show and talk about Doug Live. She went, oh my God. And I was like, mom, no, I think everyone hates it. She was like, why?

And she started singing one of the songs. I was like, I know. It's really devastating. She got sad. She was like, really? I love Doug Live. And I was like, I know. Well, do we think people hate it?

At the time, again, I was 13, 14. Like, I was leaving middle school, starting high school. So I think I was a little stuck out. I don't know. You were a little punk? Yeah. So you were saying you didn't like it. Because I never saw this at the park.

Oh, I saw it. You really didn't? No. I'm really sorry for you. I know it was there. I saw it once or twice. And this eventually theater became the American Idol experience. Yes.

Well, between, Doug Live ended, and Doug Live was replaced by nothing. For a while. It sat vacant for seven years or so. And then it was replaced by a pretty disliked attraction. There's no way it's close, I don't think, to American Idol experience as far as dislike. And now it's one i don't think to american idol experience as far as uh dislike and now it's like that's one of these frozen things you'll know we're getting to the end when we do the episode

for the first time in forever frozen sing-along we're like we are out we are out we have we're out of fucking restaurants to talk about it's true uh uh jason you didn't like doug live you have a memory of not liking it uh yeah i think when i first when i saw it at the time i didn't like Doug Lively. You have a memory of not liking it. Yeah, I think when I first, when I saw it at the time, I didn't love it. We watched a pretty decent video rip of it last night. And I was like, okay, I kind of like this. And I think I really appreciated

the audience participation. Let me ask, did you or any of your family ever get picked for that show? No, and I would have been so scared. You guys, there's a part where they all come down to the front of the audience just off the stage. I was freaking out. I was so scared

of Roger. I would tuck my legs and I'd be like, I don't want to go near him. So no, I would have been freaking out. Well, he's terrifying looking. The green makeup and the nose. And he's like, and it's like. And you were probably also frazzled by the fact that in the cartoon animation on the back of the set, he's wearing his attire from Disney's Doug. But during the show, he's wearing his leather jacket from Nickelodeon's Doug.

And that's a pretty big oversight. You could change wardrobe when you jump out of a notebook page? I don't think so. I don't believe it. Get your animation in check, funny. Jeez. Yikes. Is this controversial to say that I find all the characters scary?

No, I kind of. They all have an odd. Now, I'm not saying I don't like it because like I like Zubily Zoo this old show that had a bunch of scary looking animal characters I've heard of that I don't know it's old it's old you wouldn't you're too young and no one is taking this with them through time

nobody we aren't bringing Zubily Zoo along for the ride not yet as time marches on well we might be but not yet but yeah so I'm not saying it's not a bad thing I'm just saying that that when I'm watching this now, I go, God, these are all unnerving characters. Well, because they make, and if you're unfamiliar with Doug, it's like The Simpsons.

It makes color choices with the characters, crazy cartoon color choices. And then when you iterate something like this in a live setting, you have to decide how to represent the weird kooky colors that all of the characters are. And you've got like, you know, you've got like Roger is green and Skeeter is like aqua and Patty is kind of orange. They go sort of orange. And when you put them and then the dog Pork dog pork chop is like a he's like a light gray so there's a lot of face paint going around in general and when you put them all together is a lightly terrifying nature to this i'm not saying it was the wrong decision but you know

what it's somewhere between the fact that there's like there there's like also a lot of weird smoothness i feel like roger especially is like he feels shaved on the sides he's got like a macklemore thing going on he's shaved on the sides and then the make his the makeup covers his real eyebrows and then false eyebrows are drawn on top and then skeeter a choice i don't even recall from the cartoon, is that Skeeter only has one eyebrow. But they keep this alive in the live production. So he has this odd, just floating eyebrow that feels like it was left on by mistake. But from the audience, I feel like it works. Because that stage is really big.

And it doesn't get filled completely. So I feel like it reads from the audience. But if you're taking a backstage picture, it's going to look funky well i wasn't group them all together when you clump them it's like yeah it's a lot of paint we got a lot of paint it wasn't meant to be a production that they film this is all from home movies we're watching now in hindsight they were making the characters just so they would appear correct in the audience yeah yeah but it's But it's not, I mean, do you think the Zoobles are scarier than the Doug Live people, or are they on par from Zoobly Zoo? I mean, these are more cats.

These are like Andrew Lloyd Webber cats style. They're a little like cats. They're a little Starlight Express. Yeah. And they're called the Zoobles. I don't think I knew that they were Zoobles. They say it in the opening theme. Zoobly Zoo.

Let's introduce the Zoobles to you. Ben Vereen is one of the Zoobles. They say it in the opening theme. Zoobly Zoo. Let's introduce the Zoobles to you. Ben Vereen is one of the Zoobles. Oh, nice. Yeah. I think there's just a lot more going. Oh, cool. A lot more going on. Jane's like, yes, turn it around, please.

I don't want to see the Zoobles anymore. Yeah, he is. Ben Vereen. That's why I'm like, yeah, that's great. Also, shout out to Katz. Shout out to Betty Buckley, my girl. We love her. Icon legend.

She's cool, but was she ever in Zoobly Zoo? Fuck off, Michael. You got one too. Oh, boy. About even. It's from love. I think Jason got one too. I just can't.

It's home. Come on. Yay. We're all, everybody's getting it. Mike deserved that for not turning the laptop around you really were like you i need to make sure you have fully absorbed each zooball i'd also like to say out i just can i just vocalize i love zoobly zoo and i'd love to do an episode about it i think i hope this is the way that i could get out of doing this episode about it i so you know i wouldn't be mad

at all if we did an episode about Zubazoo. Next week? I think we should do one next week, baby. The loud words he's saying are good. They feel good to me. They feel good for me to say. I feel good when I look at that picture. I'd feel good if we set one up soon. I like everything that I'm hearing.

Did you all know that Porkchop is supposed to be a bull terrier? What? No, I did not know that. I looked that up, and I was very surprised. Like a Spuds McKenzie kind of. You looked it up? Where did you look it up?

Just on Wikipedia. I just kept following rabbit holes and Wikipedia and fandom. Yeah, I didn't know. I did not actually. You know what breed would I have even imagined Porkchop was? I don't know. I'm not sure. Just dog. Just cartoon dog. Yeah. General. General dog. So yeah, so I mean, I can, it makes sense. Yeah, when they do like, I'm trying to think, there's another, like Peanuts

when they do, you see like, You're a Good Man Charlie Brown or something. They didn't decide, I've seen this show a couple times, you're a good man Charlie Brown. They oftentimes don't make a big papier-mâché head that would mimic the Peanuts character. But they have to sometimes. The costumes are really over the top. They do the shirts and stuff for sure.

The shirts do the heavy lifting. But some production out there must have done big scary heads. Do you think so? With like bit where they take a lot of pipe cleaners and put them together to make Charlie Brown's hair switch. Well there's the sketch,

there's a Saturday Night Live sketch, right, with Martin Short or something? Oh yeah. Do they do it? Yeah, yeah. I can't think of it. That was pretty good. Did they do the heads in that one?

I think they did the heads. There's a much older sketch with Brendan Fraser where, I fucked that up. I always forget, Fraser forget Fraser or Fraser. Fraser. You said it right. It is actually Fraser.

It's so weird to say it right. It's a Pepo Beppo thing. But where they did crazy makeup. I mean like too purposefully terrifying effect. Right. So I get the choice. It's just funny now watching it on grainy VHS 25 years later.

I just think you could have skipped the fact that the Doug characters have crazy colors. Because Doug himself does not. So Doug is just normal. Well, what do you think? I think that that's a very beautiful way of kind of showing him as the lead and all the colorful characters in his life. Sure. Metaphorically as well. Like he moves to,

because he's kind of new in town and he meets all of these I don't know, not even necessarily like that, like they're kooks, but I think it's a cute way to go like, it's from this person's perspective. I don't know,

I just thought about that. I was like, oh, this is actually kind of cute. Like maybe it's just to kind of represent the- His family is all kind of regular. Well, what's funny is- They're regular, but the neighbor's purple. He feels like he doesn't fit in, but he's the most quote unquote stereotypical normal looking person, which is also something I think worth thinking about.

Yeah, get deep. I think it shows you the, like, I think I attached to Doug from the, like, the vantage point of the stuff in your head and how the stuff in your head can swally up and stuff that you don't even need to be thinking about. That doesn't need to be wearing you down. I mean, for example, that the entire thing is his secret crush is on Patty Mayonnaise.

And how can he ever tell Patty Mayonnaise that he, how can I ever put this together with the girl who's exceedingly nice to me, with me every day at all times, affectionate to me, sweeter to me than the other boys? It's funny that the unrequitedness is the runner where like oh doug oh doug come on just sit like right there basically your girlfriend already doug just do it but that's the kind of kid i was i needed and i know you were this way too mike was just like needing i need like all like like a regular kid might just need like a vague green light we need like a hundred levels of green light to know to uh can i can i say this

uh when watching some doug well just allow it and i can cut it out if you don't allow it okay um i uh empathize with doug so much and what you're saying about doug so much so that i can't stand doug i don't want to watch him ah we just back to like, this is young me a little bit? Because he drives me insane because it reminds me of myself. And I'm being serious. This is, he's so, come on. God, don't act like such a loser, Doug. This is the dialogue I was having today when I was going through some stuff. You might as well be saying Mike.

You might as well be saying. Yes. Wait, we dislike what we see in others when we see ourselves reflected back. Yes, so I'm annoyed with Doug because he reminds me of a loserish me. Wow. That's heavy. I very much loved TVs and film growing up. TVs and film.

TVs and film. TVs and film. Uh-huh. TV and film growing up. Sure. And it was all this stuff about kids boys having crutches and unrequited crushes and if they say they like someone they don't like them their life is over and it wasn't until i was much older that so many of the people writing this were anti-social

weirdos were like ah i will i will either uh show my my childhood in an affectionate way, or I will be like, I'll write when I never write. You know? Well, that was scary. Yeah. That was ominous. How does it feel to be, like, it's like you're having anxiety watching the show because you connect to Doug so much, and here we are in your post-wedding episode.

Does it feel nice to feel like there's a happy ending to the story as if Doug and Patty had gotten married I found my Patty Maynard as I did briefly get out of my own way because I put myself there in the way and I said you are not getting past this

I'm in the way now this is my way. Just kidding. That's kind of nice. Yeah, our first date, I said, oh, what do you think you'll have for lunch? And you just grabbed my ear and was like, come on, enough of this business.

I was so, I'm a very different person now because I had a lot of therapy, but I was very nervous and I never wanted anyone to spend money on me because I felt terrible. So I was like, just some pita bread. Like I didn't even order a meal because I was like, you don't have to spend money on me. Did Jason also say, though, keep it under $10, please?

Hey! All right, just wanted to check. I was like, I don't want him to spend money on me. I'll just get something really cheap. Well, I get that. I understand that. So where were we? Can we get back to the show really cheap. Well, I get that. I understand that. So, where were we? Can we get back to the show?

Yeah. Like the live show? Yeah. I feel like I have a lot of cool perspective things from a theme park performer perspective that I noticed. Oh, please. That was really interesting. The first thing I noticed was there are five on mic characters and then they bring on audience participation a few things that

of note to me to me that goes hey we have the budget for five equity performers figure it out for the rest of the performers yeah that's right yeah those rubes in the audio they don't know they're supposed to be getting paid we can't pay four beats every night let's get audience members okay they're in this one scene. They're not paying people to do that, and they're not on mics. It would be a different thing anyway. I'm like, they're not paying people for that. I forgot that they were the adult audience members.

My next thought was they would never put people on a turntable with props willy-nilly like that. Never. They would never do that. When I did Fantasia on the turntable thing i'd have practiced a bunch of times for safety they would never throw people on a turntable i'm serious they would never do that just okay okay yes because the yeah so parents are picked in like a embarrassed dad dance competition and the reward is that you get to be the band the beats and and some of some of the show is oriented around a big Beats concert.

So when they appear, they are revealed via a big turntable that shows the concert set. And that is, you're saying like- I'm not saying it's dangerous necessarily, but that stuff has to be rehearsed with a turntable. Interesting. It probably is a little dangerous. So I wonder how they got away with it.

Was it just a less regulated time? Yeah. I mean, I know it was. I know that not long after after what i associate this era with is like disney starting to get a little more careful about this stuff and just things like there's two tiny steps that lead you up to the the whatever the wishing fountain behind the castle or whatever better put bright yellow tape on that so nobody trips and falls and sues us like that sort of that kind of thing was starting to happen around this time maybe right after this time so yeah this is a the fact that there's a bunch of parents on a

turntable it is a pre-litigious disney move never just throw people up there like that yeah that's interesting yeah yeah that stood out to me um risky threat lawsuits always around every corner and then i always i always had a little crush on Doug. I always liked little nerds. You'd never know. What? What's up? I always liked cute little nervous nerds.

You're not really nervous. You're quite confident, but you still are very cute. Thank you. Well, BDE, to quote previous episode, to quote former guest Jane Clare hello yes my husband has a

huge personality alright now alright okay there we go I am very satisfied oh boy he was just talking about the energy to be fair to Scott I was talking about the energy He was talking about the energy

To be fair to Scott I was talking about the E not the D He said the E I didn't even say it was B I like to try to make you two as uncomfortable as possible I love it It doesn't take much That's why I

The secret to me as the Hulk would say is I'm always uncomfortable You're so funny um so i always always like that um i'm gonna jump to talking about the music is that okay please um so before we get to what we listened to this morning right um i the music was like really hit me in a way like 21 jumbo street was always so like nice and made me feel so many different feelings so that music really did like hit me and um yeah I like remembered so much of it but I'm like yeah that song in particular I think it made me feel so like happy like I don't know it was so nice that's right this is like kind of opening number and it's reprised at the end it's

sort of the like meet the cast the show is happening in full now yeah yeah i also like the anybody else at all anybody else at all when doug's like i wish i was not me you know i like that one um do you feel like you're are you looking at these songs like better than a theme park musical might have a right to be like they stick with you longer than. I'm not going to go like so extreme on that. But I will say there was a lot of heart in 21 Jumbo Street. I don't know. I think they captured the vulnerability pretty well.

21 Jumbo Street is the best of the song. I think so too. That's the only one I remember. This morning. Yeah. This morning we listened to a podcast with the two writers of the music for the show. And it was really, really interesting.

The best part was when they talked about Eisner coming to watch it. Scott, just lean forward! Scott, just lean forward! Let me be clear, I've been leaning forward through it. It's not as if I was back the whole time. No, no, no, but you were like, oh, what's up? I played it cool, though.

I wanted to lean forward. So they said- You're always uncomfortable unless Eisner's being talked about. Oh, I feel good. I just like, because we always talk about like, do we think Eisner had to approve this? Did he have to watch it? The fact that he came and watched Doug's line- I was going to say, I have information for you.

The sale of the, what the company's name? Jumbo Pictures. Did Michael Eisner say Jumbo Pictures? Get me Jumbo. He had to have. I made Jumbo. So anyway, go ahead. How? Jumbo Pictures. Did Michael Eisner say Jumbo Pictures? Get me Jumbo. He had to have. I made Jumbo. So anyway, go ahead. How about Jumbo?

So when they were going to have him come to the rehearsal, they made a huge note and a huge thing about everyone wanted everything to be perfect. They were straightening things on the wall. They had all these things laid out for him because they were so nervous about it. They just thought that was funny. But when he watched it he said oh you need to put it in a radio song like for the beats a beat song you need to put in a radio song and they were like that was our note from eisner and thought it was really interesting um they also talked about

phantasmic opening around the same time and so they got um to go to the dress rehearsal for phantasmic and i just thought that was really cool and it kind of inspired them in how the animation and the live were combined. And something else that was really funny they said is they were rehearsing in the parking lot of MGM and when they were on break, there were these two bushes that they would go through to go into the park and ride rides and then come back, these two composers.

Whoa, wow. And I was like, oh my God. There was a security breach. go through to go into the park and ride rides and then come back these two composers oh wow i was like oh my god there was a security breach and truthfully it sounded like they were like yeah we would just go ride some rides and come back wow but they were hired on you know just to write the music and they weren't even invited to like the opening and stuff it was like for hire okay you're done now bye so they're like we weren't really included in a lot of that stuff um but uh yeah i just thought all of that was was quite interesting and uh there were they wrote like so many more songs apparently which yeah like that's usually what happens their names were uh jeffrey lewden and william squire and they were interviewed on this podcast called

the tiara talk show which has come up uh in the past but specifically they said the phantasmic dress rehearsal was the middle of the night in the park and they sat directly behind mike leiser to watch this so he gave notes it was in the same sort of span of time where he saw doug live yeah phantasmic yeah and where he's given out those genius little nuggets that would help to cement these shows as legendary and they the radio when they are like putting a radio thing that is a later episode or an early episode of the nickelodeon doug where doug and skeeter win tickets to a beats show and then skeeter gets grounding can't go and Doug the ops hang out with Skeeter they go to the malt shop and beats show up so maybe so maybe Michael Eisner had seen this he goes you know the one with Skeeter where he gets grounded and Doug and him are going to the beats

we have to do something like that it's a great episode have you seen it aired in 1990 it's jumped the shark since frankly I'm disappointed with Disney's Doug. I thought they peaked back then. I'll sell Jumbo as soon as I can if the quality doesn't increase. Breck loves it. He's 20 and he loves Doug. They said that even before the Disney sale

they were working on some sort of Doug musical thing that Jim Jenkins, the creator of Doug, was hoping to like license out to school performances and like which i did think was actually i'm like oh yeah that kind of sounds right you know either for like a touring for people to come to schools or i guess like people to put it on but i was like that would be really that is a good like children's entertainment like

touring show if they flushed it out maybe a little bit more. And crafted it to be doable for middle school budgets. Yeah, all that stuff. Nice little play that people can put on easily. But then every middle school would have the choice of, do we do the face paint? I don't know. Can we afford the face paint?

Are people going to be afraid of the face paint? Jim Jenkins, by the way, if you look him up, I mean, Doug is very autobiographical. He's been one. He's been very clear about that. Even the name Patty Mayonnaise was a portmanteau of girls he had crushes on. Sally Mustard.

Yeah, Sally Mustard. Oh, you know her too? She was a lot that year. I just saw her. But if you look at older Jim Jenkins, it's like, yeah, you still, you look like an older Doug. Like he kind of has a Doug vibe about him.

I honestly am shocked we haven't gotten a Doug reboot. You know, Doug and Patty are married and you were their kid. I mean, Doug and Patty are married and here are their kids. I mean, we got there with Boy Meets World. There's been no talk of new Doug? I don't think there's, I haven't seen any. They perfected it with the live show,

so you really just don't want to touch it at this point. You're always going to be chasing Doug live, yes. Yeah, why even try? Yeah, well, I mean, look, I'm glad. I don't want to see Doug ever again. Is this a personal thing? Yeah, it's too dark for you. I don't want to see Jim Jenkins' face that looks like old Doug. That's really what I don't want to see Doug ever again. Is this a personal thing? Yeah, it's too dark for you.

I don't want to see Jim Jenkins' face that looks like old Doug. That's really what I don't want to see. It reminds me of myself. Your daughter starts watching new Doug on Disney Plus or whatever, and then you scare her by standing up and saying, Stop that, Doug! Yeah. Get your act together, Doug!

Right. Grow some nuts, Doug! Come on, Doug. Mike throws a plate at a wall. Yeah. Sit to this! You're 49, Doug. Come on, Doug. Mike throws a plate at a wall. Yeah. I'm sick of this. You're 49, Doug. You shouldn't be awkward anymore.

Work on yourself. Sorry. There you go. We also were talking about when I was saying there's five rules in the show, because Roger doubles, obviously, as the bad guy in that one scene, which, as a kid, I was fucking terrified of, by the way. Oh, yeah. What's his bad guy name?

Dr. Professor Rubber Suit? Yeah. Is that right? But I was like, what is the most involved? I'm not really involved role, but I'm like, what would be the hardest track for this? And I was like, well, Doug's on stage the whole time, so probably him, but I went that fucking dog he is doing stage crew work while he's performing and

very physical so while he's not singing like when the quail like the head thing falls off of him when he's putting the helmet on and quail man's belt falls off you see the dog like sneak in the background and like grab it and then when they do the quail kid he like leans forward and they use his mic so he's kind of like structurally like he goes and grabs the tickets from the radio guy and brings it over and I'm like this is a really interesting track because it's physical and you're doing like logistics and then I was like Doug's probably the most demanding he's only off stage for like 30 seconds in that one scene with patty and um the green guy and so i'm like oh okay i guess him i feel like patty is probably the chillest track which would have been really awesome to do if i had been old enough because she i also like this she's kind of the one who's like you guys are all fucking crazy okay see you

later like she's not like the straight she kind of is like the straight man honestly so um can i ask a question when you say track oh sorry is that like the role so like i assume that's what you meant but so uh like in beetlejuice my track was fantasia but like a track for roger your track is still that and the radio host that's one track even though it's two characters it's is that the same guy i didn't realize that he's the radio host, that's one track even though it's two characters. Is that the same guy? I didn't realize that. He's the radio guy before he's Roger? He's like three.

He's the radio guy. But that's still one track. It's one actor's track. So that's if you're sharing roles. You dip off to do this thing and then you come back to this thing. It doesn't have to be that. You could be the same character. Doug is a track. Sure.

Is that a Broadway term or a theme park term? Both. Okay. I mean, I guess. I use it interchangeably. But for Broadway, a lot of times ensembles, there'll be different ensemble tracks. An ensemble typically plays various things throughout the show. So dance track one is like, like oh i have to remember that

it's different than dance track seven i give i give those not those people people in ensembles who do cover so many tracks like i give them so much credit because it's also slightly different sometimes that you have to remember oh wait i'm doing this this track for this and um so that's what i mean when i say like track like try, like roll, roll in the show. Maybe I assumed I just didn't know if I did. No, no, no.

Yeah. It was. So you might, you would, if, if you, if this was still around or had been when you were able to be in these shows,

you maybe would, you would have wanted to be Patty or is, or is, or is pork chop a gender neutral? I feel like it. I feel like I saw pictures of female pork chops. I guess it could have been. Yeah, I would have killed to be Patty Mayonnaise, although I'd be scared of Roger.

I'd be scared when he's the bad guy and I'm standing on the thingy. There's a pre-show character too, right? Doing like trivia with the audience and getting the kid and getting the character yeah just kind of has like a crazy dress on when the bad guy comes out go boo

boo and when Doug wins and he's the underpants like yay yay I did I came across on the Doug wiki about this show there was an interesting set of comments. On March 3rd, 2018, someone said about this show,

it's gone now, isn't it? And then someone replied on March 28th, 2023, yes, it is. So that's it. Five years later, five years later to get that, yes, it is. So that's it. Five years later, five years later to get that yes it is. You are correct. Checked every day, every day. Every day.

Until finally somebody, yeah, there was nowhere else to find. It's not the closure I wanted. Yeah, but you know, well they waited for five years for that. So yeah, I certainly appreciated more watching it now. When I was 13, I was a little like, I didn't love that. Wow.

I think that's interesting. I don't know. You actually remember this and had a visceral reaction to it at the time. Yeah. And then you attribute it to snobbiness or something. I don't know. Puberty, moodiness. You were a purist, a Nickelodeon dog purist.

I was kind of a dog purist. I feel like it's more that I kept trying to show you last night and you were not interested I was like, look, his sleeves used to be shorter This drives me nuts No, no, no I thought you were specifically just talking about the live show

and I was like, yeah, it's cartoony It's oversized, so it looks like it's three quarters but it's just a t-shirt Well, yeah, no, it makes sense in the live show. Fuck with me. You got it coming. Those are James' fists. Watch out.

You can hear on mic just for the theater of the mind. Oh, she's cracking her knuckles. Oh, no. Did you hear the, wasn't there an episode while I was gone where you guys talked about how you want like a strong woman to throw you around like the X-Men? Yeah. Did you hear that one? Oh, yeah.

Was that something that you already discussed in your home lives? Oh, yeah. I am quite strong. She's very strong, and I like to say I'm made of glass and popsicle sticks. Yeah. These are not good materials. So I... Yeah. Bulk and...

What's the character you're chasing? Buff. Buff. And what's the laser one? From Generation X? Generation X, yeah. Oh, God, I don't know. I can't remember.

All right, Talk Monster itself. I'll look it up. Or we don't have to look it up. Or we could go with Buff, and that's the end of it. Go with Jenner, yeah. I think you're the Buff. We're good, Jace. We're good.

No, no, I'm getting this. All right. Oh, God, I can see him in his spiky blonde hair. Live show-wise, is this, of all the things that have closed over the years, would this be your number one to bring back? No. Oh, no, it wouldn't. Hunchback.

Hunchback would be number one. For fucking sure. Okay. You love that Hunchback show. I was going to say, I would jizz my fucking pants. Wow. If the Hunchback of Notre Dame show came out, you would jizz your fucking pants? Don't even talk to me like I'm getting excited.

Don't even talk to me about it. Because the actual casting that could happen where they do traditional not traditional but like they stick to the right ethnicity of the characters which they would do now fucking sickening man i can't even don't even talk to me about it don't even talk to me about it i'm gonna cry overwhelmingly awesome to imagine this is a positive feeling but it's overwhelming i literally am like thinking about it i'm like don, I will cry. Similarly, Overneat, overwhelming. It's Buff and Refrax. His name was Refrax.

The quickest way to fight those tears is to start talking about Buff and Refrax. Does that balance you out? Yeah, that's a guy who has x-ray vision and laser eyes. You want her to be like Refrax? No, she's Buff because she's strong and I'm Refrax. You're Refrax. You're the Refrax no she's buff because she's strong and i'm refrax you're a refrax you're the refrax

not really he's kind of a creep um because the comic book characters episode what that episode we pitched an idea for a mutant based on you that already was a character that i didn't realize do you know what i'm talking about i don't i pitched an x-man that's why i should have been here 10 minutes in that episode when he was not on it, and he could not finish it for sure. That was the most difficult one. That was a gobbledygook to me. I, at the end of the episode, pitched an idea for a mutant called Soft Serve that Jason

could play that would have a different flavor of ice cream coming out of each finger, and we went through which flavor each finger would be. Apparently, that's already- You did all 10? We did all 10. I forced him to do it. I put him on the spot. In an episode I never heard,

you just named, you assigned ice cream flavors to fingers? I gave him a time limit as well. I made him, I put him under the gun there. And I beat it. I nailed it.

I mean, it wasn't, it was like 60 seconds. That's my baby. That's my baby. Thank you for your support. I love you so much. But apparently, that's already an X-Men.

I don't know if John and I... There's an X-Men named Soft Serve that shoots ice cream. So I either stole it and didn't realize I stole it, or it's just parallel thinking. It's just too many mutants, I guess. You see, honey, Chamber and Husk, the original comic book characters, were too expensive to do.

And that's our time, everybody. Yeah, so winding down Doug Live. No, what do we want to get out about Doug Live before we Shut the door to use the term It was kind of my introduction to the stage Fog smoke and the smell of it So that was also very visceral for me

Thinking about that Yeah I don't know I loved it I have very fun family memories of it And We were really sad when it closed and I get that a lot of people like hearing your perspective of it not knowing about the Doug series as much I'm like oh yeah that makes sense it's probably weird but if you're only seeing Doug in that perspective you're like oh this is wonderful I like this music and you know Doug

is so cute and like it's so romantic at the end and they end up together and patty mayonnaise is kind of annoying and like you know a little um not jarring not like flighty out of it no that was the last time i couldn't remember i remember going uh flighty um i don't know you guys someone else talk okay all right the and do we haven't talked about Doug's hair spikes that's it oh I said that Doug is normal because he doesn't have face paint but also but the way they represent his cartoon hair is to just take regular hair and slick it down and then he looks like he's in he well I'll say the offspring again he looks like Dexter Holland a little bit

he just looks like a spiky guy bit. He just looks like a 90s spiky guy. Well, because cartoon Doug has like six strands of hair. Right. But rather than weird wig, the wig choices are interesting. They just spike his real hair. Roger, they put in, it's like a red wig with curlers. It's a big set of curlers. And then as I said, bald on the side.

I'm terrified of Roger. No, Doug is definitely wearing a wig. That's not his real hair. Well, then as I said bald on the side I'm terrified of Roger No Doug is definitely wearing a wig That's not his real hair Well look what I'm looking at right here I think we got some slicked up Some big old like gelled up hair I want to say Hmm

I don't know I mean it could be a big wig I suppose But it is very Beakman It looks like Beakman from Beekman's World. Yeah, yeah, there you go. Yeah. Did Michael Eisner know who Beekman was, do you think? It's the competition.

Can we do an episode? I curse him every day. That's why I got Bill Nye, to fight the scourge of Beekman. I love Bill Nye. Can we do a Bill Nye episode? We could. I don't necessarily have to be on it,

but I love... Still would. When he shilled for the oil companies on Universe of Energy? Still would do. You could talk about him there. Still would do? Bill Nye?

I want to fuck him so bad. Thank you. Jesus. Here we go. I really. I thought we were winding down. Now we're hearing you want to fuck Bill Nye? Sorry.

I love you so much but I still would. Bill Nye, really? Whoa. What was the formative Bill Nye TV show where it was like, oh wow, Bill. Yeah, that was my. I'm just saying, what where it was like, oh, wow, Bill? Yeah, that was my-

I'm just saying, what was the universe of energy? Yeah, what's the kind of thing you would do that implanted those feelings? When you picture the Bill Nye of your dreams. I just think he's got this weird swagger. I'm glad we moved in together because if I recall, he used to live in my old neighborhood somewhere. Because him and Ed Begley Jr. were neighbors and they got into a war to make their houses

most energy efficient. They're big environmental guys. Ed Begley Jr. always taken the subway to the Oscars. Have you seen Bill Nye's swing dance? Yes. You have? I believe I have. Yeah, I just made a face, because if you

see that... Just saying. I mean, look, he was on Dancing with the Stars. He's really good at swing dancing, and you gotta know how to move and different things. Is this, can I ask if it's too personal, did Jason know that Bill Nye was such a...

I always told you I thought he was cute. I was always like, yeah, I've said to you like, yeah, I would. Still would. Sure. So you flashed it. If you hadn't moved, you could have been walking around the neighborhood and Bill Nye was there. On an electric bike that's even more efficient than probably the most efficient bike is not electric.

What I'm saying is a more a better bike than Ed Begley Jr. And then you go, your eyes go grazing over. Oh, you don't say. I feel like I would have been too nervous to say anything. And I'm just trailing behind her. That's the restaurant where Beretta went back for his gun where he said he didn't kill his wife. Metellus.

Yeah. Robert Blake. Yes. Right? Yes, that's his name. I don i think you know him as beretta first i couldn't pull the name robert blake but i could pull beretta and of course the universal sheraton the inspiration for that stayed there for a while the inspiration for what for beretta it was the inspiration it was a different cop guy a cop guy who'd written a book well you're talking about telly

savalas no no the i forget oh god this it's complicated i forget it came up on the original city is this about chamber or reflex i don't know any of the words y'all been saying the last minute we're trying to figure it out too no i got a little lost there uh uh if you if you figure it out let me know i just wait the hotel was an inspiration for for no no the the man this former like super cop wrote a book and they were adapting into a tv show the tv show got reworked after the first season and would go on to become beretta okay okay wait what does the hotel have Wait, what does the hotel have to do with it? Yeah, what does the hotel have to do with it? He stayed, he was one of the people who stayed in that.

One of the celebrities listed as staying. The super cop. The real life super cop behind Beretta. Quote unquote. How in the world did this information? I just really want to personally thank you for letting us know all that information. Jane herself blessed Jason harder than either of us.

Wow, the biggest mic drop. You spend less than two hours with them, and you start nailing my ass. But I also nailed their asses. All right. Jane asks nailing to go around, which is why we like that. Jane loves ass play and that's why we have her. Is there anything else

to get her or do we start winding it down? Do we say, on that note, Jane Clear, you survived podcast, The Ride, and thank you for coming to us

and bringing us your fond memories, bringing us your wedding tales and for nailing our asses. I will nail your asses any day, boys. Watch out for this, man. You got to come into

you all the time. This character is named Lookout Bear from Zoobly Zoo. I don't like his pose. His pose is freaking me out more than anything. His name is Lookout Bear

and he's kind of hitting the dab, honestly. His head's not in the elbow. It's very far. Not 100%. All right. Let's access to the gift shop. Is there anything you'd like to plug well first can i be sentimental for a second yeah i just want to say i really love you both and thank you so much for always helping us out and you know the extra

things that we need you know with between jason and i and um even though i like fuck with you guys so much i just like i really appreciate your, and I just wanted to say that. You know, that's just likewise. Oh, thanks. Geez, appreciate it. And I just want to give Jason a shout out, because this MS has kind of been kicking his ass, and he's pushing through and, you know, trying not to let it defeat everything. So I just want to be sentimental for a minute and, like, tell you guys I love y'all. Thank you. want to be sentimental for a minute and like tell you guys i love y'all thank you um as far as uh

gift shop um i'm a stylist as we were saying you can find me on instagram uh jane claire styling it's j-a-y-n-e c-l-a-i-r-e um please reach out to me i'm also i mean i'm on twitter i have like 30 followers or something um but i'm always looking for new for you want those numbers up don't you please you guys help jane out on the dying website trying to get the get those listeners um the what the dying website oh yeah um but uh no i i i do like event styling or just personal styling closet closet stuff. And so reach out. Or if I've started doing these YouTube videos that I'm just kind of throwing up onto YouTube. So let me know if you like it.

Some people have... Your Brooke Down wedding look, your other like styling content. Yeah, yeah. I asked on Instagram the other day and some people really gave some good suggestions. I think one I'm going to try to work on is a video showing how to look cute in a theme park while still being like

comfy and it being reasonable. Um, I feel like I'm going to have some controversial opinions. There's one I already have. Well, okay. Here's what I'll say. I don't love, again, I'm not judging you. The whole thing with my styling is if you want to wear it and it makes you comfortable okay I'm not gonna tell you but if you ask my professional opinion I'm gonna give it to you you know what I mean so if you're asking me about that do not wear the theme park shirts it's like Jason said wearing the the band tee to the concert like don't it doesn't ever look cute it just looks silly to to me. But if you love it, all right. Can I ask a question?

Yeah. When we were all together at Epcot Center a couple years ago, and I was wearing a Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse yellow shirt, would that be a faux pas in your mind? I don't think necessarily. I don't like the gaudy, like, so much going on. Like, a vintage shirt, I would be okay with. Like, Jason and I have a lot of vintage um theme park stuff and if anything i would say something more basic or something vintage i just i hate the gaudy shirts

that are like you know i just i've seen so many at epic and i'm like guys this is so like you can look really cute in a theme park and it doesn't have to be one of those shirts. So I'm here to help. With the shirts you're talking about, would they be okay in regular society? No, but... It sounds like you just don't like these shirts at all. Well, that's also kind of true. Now, if you were to see me somewhere and I was wearing a shirt that had clip art of a wine glass. And then on top of that is the headgear that the evil queen from snow white wears and then it said in a really almost unreadably cursive font mirror mirror on the wall

who's the drunkest of them all would that be a cool clothing item to wear or would you advise me against i advise against all of those look if you want to look chic don't wear printed stuff i mean genuinely i like vintage printed stuff but if you don't want to look, if you want to look chic, don't wear printed stuff. I mean, genuinely, I like vintage printed stuff, but if you don't want to look, like if you want to look put together, wear solids. Do not wear gaudy shirts.

Okay, I want to show you. And I've been just faving vintage Islands of Adventure and Universal Escape shirts. Again, vintage to me is a little different. I don't like these new prints. I'm not trying to be an asshole.

I really am not. But like people are asking me like, hey, how do I look cute in theme park, how do I look cute in the theme park? How do I look cute in the theme park? I need to show you a picture of that shirt I'm talking about. I want to know what you think about it. Okay, well then I'm going to do the- Yeah, go for it, Scott.

Wait, hold on, hold on. Counterpoint. Dave Toma was the detective name. Jason, come on. Toma. Super cop Dave Toma. Dave Toma stayed at the Univeral. The inheritance? Yeah. My God. Well, well Jane aren't you glad that he finished that fact

Toma was the TV show Taking him to task Toma became Beretta Well you know to pay off all the threads in this episode Wait tell me that fact one more time Toma became Beretta Re-he-he-he-he-ly There we go we got it all in

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And of course, excellently printed shirts on our TeePublic. That's true. It would totally pass muster as far as James. But that's not a theme park section of the theme park or something. Okay, so then we're fine.

Mike has produced his shirt. Are we ready for this? That's what I was wearing at Epcot. Sounds like a no, folks. Silence. Is it a reprint or a real vintage shirt? Well, shouldn't you be able to tell? Because I think it's a reprint, but I'm asking you so you can be a little embarrassed.

It's not a reprint at all. It was a new shirt on Shop Disney. Okay, so that's a new shirt. It's not a vintage shirt. It looks kind of vintage. Right. Yeah, I don't like that. Vintage or anything.

But did you know or is it more about the status? What do you mean? Is it the status of owning something that's vintage? Is it the idea of something being vintage, or is it actually the way it looks? Both. That's what I thought. Okay.

Because also, everyone wears the same fucking shirts. You want to look cute at theme park, don't wear the same fucking shirt. I've never seen another person wearing that shirt. That's unique. And there's a reason. No, I'm just kidding. Wow.

And right down at the end, the ass nailing has... I've been nailed. We have one final nail of one final ass right at the exit of the episode. In my little wooden seat. You've been nailed square in the center of your little wooden seat. And with that, we not only shut the door, we slam the door on this entire conversation. Bye. Forever Dog. This has Bye. Forever Dog.

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