Podcast: The Ride - Downtown Disney Ordeal 1-1

Episode Date: November 8, 2019

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FOREVER! DOG! Darkness falls out on the street, evil rears its head Get your crazy shake to go and your fried donut bread The villains threaten this sacred place, this downtown shopping mall We must defend the Lego store and the Splitsville bowling balls The Downtown Disney or D.U. We must protect our AP discount meals

The Downtown Disney or D.U. What secrets does the Earl of Sandwich conceal? Boys, boys, my cousin has been taken by evil forces that have inhabited Downtown Disney In order to find them, you will need to thoroughly discuss every aspect of the mall, stores, restaurants, and both of the Starbucks. We have 15 daily, very necessary episodes

in which to do so. I will be there to guide you and keep your conversations from getting too off-topic or boring. The Downtown Disney Ordeal. Why do we do this to ourselves and so it is and here we are podcast the ride the downtown disney ordeal you've waited for it you've pleaded for it and now the day has arrived i'm scott gardner i'm joined by mike carlson hello it's even it's hard to even muster

the energy to even say the initial words knowing that we have to pace ourselves and how much is ahead of us i also just feel the importance of what we're doing today too that's sort of weighing on me extremely when you're renewing a franchise and taking it to the next level yeah and trying to top it but the mall that you're covering is inherently more boring. Yes. I could be wrong. Before anyone disagrees, Jason Sheridan,

thank God, is here on this journey as well. Yes, I have poked and prodded, begged and badgered not to do this, and yet, the call has been answered. We are rising to the challenge

to yes examine a more uh sterile less slightly less chaotic and more inconvenient to visit so yes what jason is referring to is that if you're newer to the podcast last year we did a 19 part series on universal hollywood city walk which is their outdoor shopping mall which has things like the hard rock uh cafe indoor skydiving indoor skydiving massage water coffins massage it's like a massage parlor but they're it's a robot doing it essentially an all crepe place an all sock place all of these inherently odd things and we entered into it thinking this is a big waste of time people won't be into this we discovered so much exciting info yeah uh and so much to talk about and now we are covering something that is just literally

beiger it's a lot of brander it's downtown disney it's downtown disney in anaheim and let's qualify that because there is of course the downtown disney in uh orlando as well which is where the name initially came from what's that there is no longer it's not downtown disney anymore it's disney springs all of it is disney springs there's not even that section is not even downtown disney right they don't say that anymore it's downtown disney springs not downtown disney springs just disney springs then wrong am i uh i didn't know that i thought the districts were still in play there's no west side there's no uh honestly i didn't do a lot of research on that part of the world yeah there are demarcations but the distracting thing about disney springs um is it's uh good it's good yes and there's

they did actually update to the way that shopping centers should be these sort of open air farmers markets artisans bringing their craft to life uh downtown disney anaheim is still stuck in this odd plastic it is parts of it feel like original california adventure yes parts of it are like rustic and like the grand california hotel but only some there's hideous fonts left and right yeah some very on trend stuff some very like now stuff sure some next to just a wetzel's pretzels and a an uva bar sure well i have no issue with the uva bar i'll say that right now yeah this has always been the centerpiece the heart um but the the rest of i think what we're

saying is like we're battling a much different uh enemy this time yes uh and the strategies that got us through the last battle may not apply this time we have to change our skills develop new skills um and luckily there is one component of this that is consistent from the city walk saga to the downtown disney ordeal and the most crucial element of all that we have the support of our of our dear friend and our guide through this area. Ladies and gentlemen, he's here again. The Sector Keeper. Boys, boys. Hey, Sector Keepers.

He is back. Yeah. I haven't seen him for a little bit. He materialized at our 100th episode live show to save us from the clutches of Bugsy. Thank you once again. man bad man he's hugsy now who is uh confusing yeah yeah yeah i would have to sort of to agree so yeah and again this is for if you're newer to the podcast the city walk saga uh brought us the sector keeper uh he's basically the ghost of a little boy who passed away in the fountain of a staph infection and he was sort of in charge of keeping the sectors in order

uh at city walk so he would he would make sure that you know when we were discussing and reviewing the different stores he would make sure that we were only reviewing you know uh the hard rock in sector let's say it was 14 and the hard rock in sector, let's say it was 14, and the Hard Rock gift shop in, let's say, it was sector. Separate. Yes. So he would keep all of that separate. We met him there, and he helped guide us along the way,

and now he is back to help us on this journey. Not just guardian, friend. Yes. Well, that's how we feel, too. We went through a lot together, on the stage included. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like we've ascended to a different level of the relationship.

That being said, we've all been busy. I just haven't gotten a chance to see you lately. Things going good? Things have been better. Oh, no. uh things have been better oh no when we last saw you you were working at a cricket wireless for low pay and a really bad parking yeah uh they cut my hours oh oh i'm so sorry you hear that no the writing was on the wall yeah you know what sometimes like when you get fired it's sort of a blessing i mean i'm not saying you're fired. I'm so sorry. That might not happen.

No, no, no. Well, they use the term laid off. Yeah, laid off. When you're laid off, sometimes it's like kind of- No severance. Yeah. Yeah, was it? I think that type of place maybe doesn't give you a nice severance package when you leave.

Or they don't dress it up either. It seems like this has not gone your way. No. Huh. No. Huh. Huh. Also, since we freed you, like, six things have closed at CityWalk that we touched on in the saga. Yes. Yes.

And Howl at the Moon has just announced that it was closing. Oh, boy. Yeah. What is happening? I'm so sorry. Sorry to tell you like this. We don't want to make you sicker i know you love all of these places so much but uh yeah forget what else santahito's didn't open

for a while yeah now it is open and it's a fun party i was i ate there right before they remodeled the fountain that plunged you into your uh your you know purgatorial state so it might be safer might have been cleaned might be more disease free and maybe there aren't future children who will uh end up bearing your burden some say it's not up to the children but up to the negligent parents would you would you say that in your state? Have you now, but now that you're free and you've had, I don't know if you've been to therapy, if you've used any of the real world coping skills now at your disposal.

I lost my insurance when I was fired. Okay. Yes, so you're not spending that on. No. So you're dealing with all this all on your lonesome. Yes, yes. Do you blame your parents um some days yes some days no yeah that's healthy i think yeah yeah it's okay you know some days you get that anger some days you don't right right yeah that's what sort of a therapist Would say I think Yes Are you Therapist?

No I don't think I just sort of I'm a podcaster With like kind of An open heart Really I feel like That's sort of my thing

It's close though I mean getting together Getting in a room And having a conversation It's you know Yeah podcasting Is a lot like A therapy session

Yeah So if you're ever Bummed out about anything Or need to process anything about your admittedly complicated past, we're here for you. Yeah. Thank you. Jason's gotten a lot better since doing podcasting, just mentally. Yeah, also I'm in therapy.

The Joker laugh comes out of his mouth. Please do not even bring up the dreaded clown prince of crime, Michael. Alright, I won't. Sector Keeper, since you talk about your health, I would suggest if you could stop, you have been jeweling pretty much since you came

in here and we have a lot of work to do. It's really muggy in here now. If you could go easy on the jewel. Mango mint. Mango. Flavors don't go together you know they're taking the mango off the market mango mint yes i stockpiled them i would trade i would work extra shifts at cricket and toby would hook me up toby toby sounds like a bad influence. Yeah, you may want to stay away from him. I hope the job will keep you away from Toby, necessarily.

Like, don't keep hanging out with the guy. Toby arrested. Oh, shit. God. I mean, sounds good. You're still, like, you're under 18. You've aged since we saw you, but you're still under 18, so you shouldn't be giving you Ju that is not a twitch that a child is supposed to have an

adolescent is supposed to have i think you're are you getting sick again oh okay please don't blast plumes we have a lot to do today i think a lot of people are going to ask me um do i have to listen to all 19 episodes of the city walk saga before listening to the downtown disney ordeal and my answer would be yes of course i would say that right now it would it's going to make it a lot more rich for you of listening experience if you've listened to all 19 city walk episodes for sure and i would say if you use a different lens to look at it, you get to listen to all 19. What? It's a gift.

Therapy language. Therapy language. Yeah, it's a gift. It's a blessing. See, he's better. Jason is better. That's the biggest jump that you'll notice from CityWalk Saga to Downtown Disney or Deals.

Jason's improved. How much better Jason is since Downtown Disney. The listener is going going this is better better still includes doing a many days in a row podcast series about a mall that is not that themed next to a theme park yes in eight years when we're doing the like restaurants outside of dollywood jason's gonna be so much better yeah he's gonna be almost perfect at that point i will be um uh evolved beyond my corporeal form i will just be a floating floating gaseous state a consciousness in a cloud of gas so we'll have two supernatural beings as part of the yeah

yeah and maybe all like maybe i'll hopefully start to avoid like it the last one of us will be like tied for we'll be vying to leave our human forms right by the time yeah when we're doing we're doing like if there is like a wendy's outside of silver dollar city and we have to do four episodes with a single wendy's uh yeah spicy nugs are back so now that being said we're talking about episode count and okay the last series was 19 parts and it seems like we all together have found a verdict on how many parts we're going to cover downtown disney in and the number is 15 15 levels oh yes well hey well there's that too uh that that's the technical way to to describe it i'm just really happy that that we're dealing with that we're dealing with it in 15 parts as opposed i think we're getting off easier

this time uh-huh this is great news to me i was so scared that the thing would be to notch it up and more is going to be crazy. But there's a little less here, I have to say. I think 15 is good. It seems like it. There's less here. It seems like there's just no way we could possibly kill a ton of time talking about any of this. No, no. Absolutely not.

No, certainly not. No. Got to reduce this. Got to have some life left. Jason doesn't have 90 minutes on salt and straw no he has 90 minutes of ire 180 minutes just on the name um but section keeper you're right i'm glad you're anxious to talk about it there's we are formatting this in a little bit of a different fact by now you've heard our our theme song uh that outlined a little bit of the way this is gonna go right um and so it's

not you know it's it's interesting you're here and you're the sector keeper because we aren't dealing with this in sectors anymore no levels levels the new thing is levels levels and stages okay yes levels and stage and now it's it's very understandable yes yeah got it uh uh and we'll post uh you know we'll we'll post something on the twitter that lays out how this is going to work so it's it's 15 episodes all told and they are broken into levels and stages yeah i'm a little confused about which is level and which is stage well here's the uh you know you think of your mario one the first mario game it would be world like or one dash one one dash two uh levels and stages it's a little bit unclear what you call that second part of the of the equate of the world you know what is that dash two is that a stage i think that's the level i think it's world

one level one right world so you're saying maybe we've screwed up already and we should have no but you know what we can't go back no no no when rules are when the sector keeper sets rules then that's what we're doing you're right it should have probably been when we were organizing this world one level one but instead it's level one stage one so the levels now are the worlds stages are levels that's right yes wait no no i got that order wrong levels are worlds are levels are levels to us yes levels are stages to correct no no I know. He's getting bored. It's convoluted.

We'll keep moving. We'll keep moving. Sorry. I choked on my jewel. That's what's going to happen to you. I'm worried about... Yeah. By the way, okay.

So we're going to do all of these stages and levels. What is the point? Are we rescuing you again? Did you fall into a fountain again? No. And if so why like come on like get like keep yourself in line you know what happened last time what you're older now you ever you should be more responsible it's much more dire boys oh shit there are evil spirits

oh no evil spirit no downtown disney has been infiltrated boys no not our precious what i thought we were just going to talk about like a sandal store there's evil spirits around and it's captured the level keeper oh no the level keeper the level the level keeper my cousin the level keeper oh no your cousin he was my best friend uh okay that's nice i mean it's nice when cousins can have relationships and i'm sure you were very fond of the level keeper but like well it was easier geographically because we lived near each other oh yeah yeah sure if you're across the country cousins that connection's maybe not gonna to happen. But you guys, oh, that's nice. Okay.

But yes, he's been captured. Oh, no. And he or she, I don't even want to suppose, but like a good person. Like, it's hard for us to be invested not knowing. We know you. We wanted to save you. Good cousin. Good cousin.

Good cousin. Okay. Good cousin. to save you good cousin good cousin good cousin okay good cousin and uh an actual cousin not like like uh in mob movies where they say the cousin cousins are coming over from italy to help us out actual cousin actual cousin okay all right not not a hitman not an international hitman okay yes yes and so you all need to clear each level, beat each stage, dominate each

world. Hmm. Wait, where is the level keeper? Why aren't they telling us this stuff? Because they're captured. They're captured. He just said it, Jason. They're captured. Jason, are you using a jewel over there?

Are you distracted by your own jewel? Just a little. This one's glasses fogged up when we mentioned salt and straw. His ears started slowly venting steam, not fast like a cartoon, and it filled them up. That's why he didn't hear. All right, look. I got a real rare. I got one of the last ones of those black market ones

that's killing all those people the jewel yeah i spent a lot of money on this thing you you want it you want to prove you can survive rare yeah but if it's i don't know that i have to how i have to explain this well you're in collect them all mentality already which i guess we have to be to do this thing i mean it'll come in handy with some of these stores uh oh sure yeah yeah um my jewel looks like pokemon that's nice that's good attained your child interests you're sort of like i feel like you're because we left it at kind of like you've entered a teenage state it seems like you're sort of like i i want to say

it's it's it's a puberty situation because sometimes i talk to you and you seem like real young and sometimes you seem like you're you're like you're you're full-on rage and uh angst addled teen is that do you feel like is it kind of that feeling where you wake up feeling a little different every day sure yeah ghost hormones are more intense than regular hormones so i feel everything at a if you feel it at a 10 as a teenager i feel it at a 10 to the 10th power oh my god he's literally Yes, my hormones are exponential Jeez, so you having feelings like the good boys of the movie Good Boy Like going through, like having to, thinking about like

Your first make out session or whatever Is ten times more stressful than it would be for the good boys Oh, good boys, yeah You related to good boys Yeah, I want to see it, but I can't get in Will you take me to good boys Yeah I want to see it But I can't go Get in Will you take me

To good boys Oh you're right Are we allowed to do that I guess we are I guess so You're with an older person We're older Yeah

I mean You're already 30 year olds Hanging out With a little boy He's got a good point Yeah that's true Yeah

If we're all If we're on a list already we're i mean then we're on the list yeah we're never getting off the list so so i mean i guess so let's let's promise each other that once we rescue my cousin the level keeper we'll go see good boys or rent or rent it if it's not still in theaters so So that's the reward. That's what we get at the end of all this is a trip. We get to take, get to, I guess I need one of those lenses, Jason. We get to take you to see this movie that we don't really care about either way. Yeah.

I guess that's a yes. I guess that's a yes. Well,'s a yes uh well boy the stakes could not be higher a cousin who is the who is the level keeper i mean i would i guess i'd like to meet i'm fond of you so i'd like to meet the level keeper too so please clear each level okay master master each stage okay and once you discuss and review each of those you will get closer to rescuing my cousin the level keeper okay and you will earn a great reward okay all right okay this sounds doable um but what is it that okay so stages each episode is a stage. And then three, if I'm getting it right, three episodes, three stages together comprise a level. But when the level's done, so then just that's...

Yeah, so when we're done with level, like, yeah, is it like a video game? Or is there... We're not like a... I guess we're sort of rescuing a princess at the end of the whole thing. But it's possible that at the end of the whole thing, but it's possible that at the end of a level that the level keeper is in that, has been in that level. Yes, you will clear each stage. Yeah.

And then at the end of each level, there is a boss. Oh. Oh my goodness. Here I went thinking it was going to be simple. This isn't as easy as just walking in a Raiders store and touching a rich Ganon jersey.

There is now a boss. Oh my god. Interesting enough, Ganon is a boss in the Zelda series. Yeah. It's all a little Zelda-esque. So this is a boss in the zelda zelda yeah so it's all a little zelda-esque yeah so this is a much more dangerous ordeal oh my god right and it i mean it really ups the stakes every three episodes we have to face some greater, some greater villain or demon.

Right. I'm so curious what those are going to be. We'll have to find out, I guess. I guess the only way, I mean, it must be things that are happening within these, within these stores.

Boys, boys, you will help. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. We're in. I mean,

the more I hear, the more I just feel like it's going to be a pain in the ass. So just forgive me for, you know, I'm just trying to process like, Oh God, now it's up. I mean, the more I hear, the more I just feel like it's going to be a pain in the ass. So just forgive me for, you know, I'm just trying to process like, oh God, now it's bosses. I don't, I'm sure your cousin's very nice, but. No, no, I'm in. I'm in. We're in.

We're in. We're in. We're in. We're in this ordeal together. Yes. Okay. Okay. Thank you, boys.

Thank you. Absolutely. So we just have to rate. We have to talk about, review things. Yeah. All the different levels and stages. Yes, and then beat the bosses.

And then beat the bosses. Is that also by just adequately reviewing and discussing? Yeah, that'll do it. Okay, great. Okay, but just like extra good. In the way that a boss at the end of a video game is just like you have to do all the stuff you did, but like more. We really got to dig in. okay okay your mediocre enthusiasm gives me

strength if that's enough okay i mean i get it fine you're less invested on this one it's not your hometown it's not a hometown game is that it for today are we we good? Are you letting us go now? No, boys. Oh, are we getting started? It begins today. Oh, man. This is not just an intro. This is the first level. The first stage. Boys, boys.

Stage one. Level one. Where are we going? What is it? Which things do we have to talk about? Right before you say it also, can I just ask, like, okay, I know what's in Downtown Disney, right? And I'm picturing it and there's like the sandal thing and then a bar and then like,

you know, like, well, like, like the pin place, like, okay, so that's all. We can cover all that. That's fine. But do we at least get to go to like, Because you know what I love is like the Grand Californian Hotel and the big... You know, the Hearthstone Bar and you get to sit... Oh, wait, wait, wait. No? Out of bounds.

Out of... Okay. No hotels. No amusement parks. Not either. Got it. Not the hotels. That's good.

No hotels. That's good. Because I didn't want to do that. I thought the hotels Are too interesting here So I'm actually I'm very excited We're saving it Alright

Jason likes the rules I like this rule You're getting better I understand No Trader Sam's No Trader Sam's No Trader Sam's No

No Trader Sam's Yeah okay I guess it's not technically In Downtown Disney so That's true But like Couldn't we have like I mean also

The Universal Hotels Were not part of City Walk Couldn't we have like Yeah that's true But like couldn't we have like i mean the also the universal hotels were not part of city walk couldn't be that's true but the boundaries are clear all right yeah the metal detectors you walk through and the honda minivan that has a star wars galaxy edge decal on it oh okay that's fair wait they're in that is the those are the boundaries okay okay oh gotcha parked by the labrea like outdoor seating it like right next to oh so does that mean we do or don't talk about you're talking about the star wars galaxy's edge honda oh no i didn't do research on the honda i didn't do research either i just saw the name it's the gal it's the star wars

galaxy's edge honda odyssey elite. Are we talking about that or not? That is the furthest bound that way. Okay, we are. And the other bound is the metal. But a bound is that we talk about it, or is a bound that that's where we don't? It's like the Continental Divide. It's a line on a map.

Yes, what he said. Yes, yes. That actually didn't answer the question, though. Well, from west. Are we talking about the car or not west of the car okay water flows one way and that is where downtown disney flows east of the car becomes the esplanade i'm also all turned around because okay north south north south is disneyland okay so we're starting east then. No, no talking about this. Okay, no, no, no.

I wouldn't. Just to directionally put me there. I just know that's a North-South park. Okay, that's the last we'll ever talk about Disneyland. Yeah, sure. I swear. No rides. No rides.

There is not one ride anywhere in this. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Kind of as a ride. Oh, shit. Okay, okay, okay. Secretary, why don't you tell us what's in stage one-level one? Yes, stage one-level one.

The other way. Level one-stage one. Level one-stage one. Level one-stage one. Level one-stage one. Level one-stage one. La Brea Bakery Express. La Brea Bakery Cafe, and World of Disney.

Okay. Okay, so we're starting from that side. As if we were leaving a fun day at the places we're not going to mention. Yes. We're leaving. We begin our journey. You just walked past the Honda minivan. Okay, so we covered that.

That's good. Yeah, it says like hashtag honda disneyland i believe that's all i got to say about that leaving the borders behind yeah an esplanade isn't in there esplanade doesn't count no no we're not talking about that this is not we'll do a separate esplanade yeah the esplanade encounter um okay so we're heading into we're heading into downtown i guess we should talk a little too about downtown disney in general which opened a little prior of california adventure january 2001 the name taken from what i now know is no longer used in orlando but they were using that name there first yep and it is open in january i believe uh can i just read a little i mean there's something

i'm gonna pull out every once in a while my old i like to consult my old magazines they gotta be good for something and i have a spring 2001 special collector's issue of disney magazine the you know the the uh four four times a year magazine that i a teenager a 15 year old had a bunch of disney ads delivered to my home that i couldn't read when it was lent because i had to be sad about jesus uh so uh this this is a an issue that gives a big preview of california adventure and what it's going to be but i'm going to skip all of those pages and go to the two-page spread about downtown disney uh just so i can like because if we're doing a little overview um let me let's let me go to how they were presenting it this this whole place in 2001

tell me agree or disagree downtown disney an entertainment district between the new park and disneyland is a descendant of european leisure parks like the charming tivoli gardens in denmark huh sure uh downtown's designers were especially impressed with the way landscapers filled these parks with flowers to provide urbanites with romantic escapes in the center of dense cities imagineers wedded old world ambiance with contemporary american energy does that feel like an accurate description of what we were going to talk about for 15 days? No. There are some.

Tivoli Gardens. That's pretty elevated. Some planters? Yes. True. There's flowers in there. There's a tree or two. They've kind of gotten more, a little more the last few years with flower sculpture-y.

To be fair, though, I wasn't there until 2007. Yeah. 2007 so perhaps when it opened it really was like tivoli gardens i can i was there probably in 2002 and i can attest that it was not okay um i think anywhere with an espn zone it therefore cannot be that much like tivoli gardens and i was dead and you were dead yeah that was established that was during your limbo so you missed all the great espn anchors you missed olbermann and tivoli garden is a known thing it's a park it's in copenhagen yeah in europe and it it's it started as like a park decades ago and stuff and slowly built out the attraction it helped inspire uh disneyland i hate to talk about it but uh i do hate talking about it but disney waltz went to tifoli gardens and it was this kind of lush storybook place yeah and so disneyland was

supposed to be a little bit like that a lot more greenery landscape architecture, garden follies. Garden? Garden follies? Little, little... Like mishaps? No, well, that's what, see, that's what people thought was funny back then. Like little statues or fake buildings, castle-like buildings and stuff. And they were whimsical. People thought were funny?

They were whimsical. They don't serve a purpose. They're purely for decoration. It's called a folly. Oh. You'd point at a little. They're purely for decoration. It's called a folly. Oh. You'd point at a little castle and laugh? Yeah, basically. I think that's what they were implying,

because it wasn't really a castle. So glad I didn't live in the past. I saw it and went to like a- You've never pointed at a castle and laughed? Ha ha! What a folly! I went to a DuPont estate last year in delaware like around christmas time and the guy kept talking about the follies there's these little these little things these

little like pagoda like shed sort of things and they called them follies and this still exists in like parks and they're little novelties they're little like oh isn't that the definition of the second definition of folly is a costly ornamental building with no practical purpose yeah especially a tower or mock gothic ruin built in a large garden or park yeah the big emphasis is it serves no purpose it's purely decorative. It's a silly building. So if the building was upside down, say, that would be a folly. That would be a folly folly. Is all of Disneyland follies?

Because the castle is for fun? Yeah, but does walking through Sleeping Beauty's castle mean that there's no practical purpose for it because it's just a frivolous experience? Or is that a deep, meaningful thing? So, thus, it's not a folly. Well, that brings us back to simulation and simulacrum. You know what? This is a whole other thing. Anyway, back to the Tivoli Gardens of Anaheim.

Is a miniature golf course, are all of those things follies? That I think you could describe as but if if you need to get the ball through the bottom of the castle then it does serve a purpose but if it's if it's a hole that's purely decorative sometimes there's just a castle for show or like humpty dumpty for show as opposed to a simple machine like some sort of uh doodad so if it was like you had to get the ball in a hippo's mouth and then it were to shit the ball out his butt. That I think is a practical machine.

That would be practical and he's not folly. That's a function. But if it's just a hippo statue watching you golf from the side, that I think you could call a folly. Frivolous. Our most fun invention yet, the game fo could call a folly frivolous our most fun invention yet the game folly or not folly everyone's playing it um if we had to go to the other side of the let's let's go over to the west side and just past the boundaries is that big uh sorcerer's hat

that marks the beginning of the disney. Folly. Folly, right? Based on that definition, that it doesn't serve a practical purpose besides decoration. But if you say it's raining, and you're standing under it, and it's protecting you from the rain, that is a practical purpose. It's full of holes, though.

Like, big open lines. Yeah, good point. Okay. What? What do you mean? This is a good point. Okay. What are you, what do you mean? This is a good conversation. How could you care? Boys. Yeah.

What do we have at level with this? You should know that my coughs are not because I am weak. My coughs are because I'm taking drags of my mango mint jewel. And I'm taking those because I'm stressed. Because I've just received a text message from the level keeper. Oh my god. The level keeper is captured by the text? Whoa. I thought this was more otherworldly.

He has limited use to a wireless phone that I slipped him as he was being kidnapped oh my god really okay oh good well this will help us get to know him uh him or her yes yeah yeah yes he um they they maybe just they yes they uh they said keep moving okay they said moving along so they're weak they're getting weak yes so you so they also

through that burner phone are hearing us right now um I well they have uh yeah

basically yes I'm in contact with them you're just like keep texting them just like yeah they're talking about follies they have

only have so many. They have a limited text message plan. Oh, sure. Yeah. You still only get, you know, 90 a month. It's prepaid, baby. Okay. Okay.

Okay. All right. So we have to keep these communications really concise. I guess let's just keep moving west. Let's start with La Brea Bakery Express. Oh, man. To kick it off. Yeah.

La Brea Bakery Express. Oh, really? I used to go here for breakfast a lot when i went to the parks like i feel like i have sank a lot of money before i bought cliff bars before i learned about cliff bars the distinction between the cafe and the express is that there is a sit-down area toward the right of the building am i wrong there's sit down areas outside of both parts right but the left but the left one is the building am i wrong there's sit-down areas outside of both parts right but the left but the left one is for express am i wrong yes that's correct it's an outdoor seating patio remember we're confused about west and east the east on the east is the seating for the

at the labre bakery uh complex your face in the door when you're facing the door to the left is the express a quick service you go through you pick out some baked goods if you want a breakfast burrito or croissant sandwich and you pay you get coffee and then you sit outside it's very pleasant yes i like it um labre bakery has been here since the beginning right yes is that correct that's an original member and not changed i think uh i would call it like uh rock solid i would call it a solid place and an la institution uh the original one opened on labrab in los angeles 1989 uh by nancy silverton and profiled in uh chef's table there's a chef's table yes because she went on to do mozza yes um and uh labre bakery originally opened to supply supply bread for a restaurant called campanile

which closed in 2012 jane's beard award winner that nancy silverton and her husband also opened but labre bakery beat it by six months and then became this kind of like Southern California institution. They were just bread slaves for Campanile and then they busted out and replaced and crushed Campanile. Yeah. And now you can find La Brea Bakery stuff like everywhere. Grocery stores and airports.

Is it worldwide? I don't know how far it goes, but you find a lot of places here. As I was reading about it, I was like, man, they should have had more of this in the California Adventure Park, but it may have been competing with Boudwin Bakery from San Francisco. Boudin? Boudin? Yeah yeah i think maybe yeah papa steve papa steve's joint right so papa steve probably wanted to keep labrea out that was part of the deal probably yeah oh yeah do you think there was a turf war between nancy silverton and papa steve yeah they hate each other there's no doubt about it each other it's a shame they both make good bread.

Papa Steve's last words. Fuck Nancy Sultana. There was a whole mob bread war going on between the two companies, maybe? Maybe. Because I would assume it's a competitive field. Everything's competitive when you're talking about retail bread. I would think so yeah do you think they built bread bombs and tried to infiltrate each other's buildings a bread bowl contains a

bomb very easily oh yeah let alone a bread box if you really want to cause some damage that's the sneaking the prison escape tools uh the scene in the movie of the future is and it's not a cake anymore because now prison guards are looking out for knives and cakes put a bomb in a bread bowl put a bomb in a bread bowl it's what if it's what really they should have ma beagle do on the new duck tales when she's trying to break her beagle boys out of prison duck tales yeah yeah yeah new one or the old one sector keeper uh new one there's a new one yeah there's a new one or the old one, Sector Keeper? New one? There's a new one. Yeah, there's a new one in the last couple of years. Although, maybe you don't know about the old one.

Or maybe, no, you do know about the old one. Yeah, I love the old one. Yeah. Yeah. One thing you should know is that when you were frozen in time, everything now is a new version of something from when you were frozen in time. Why? I don't know.

Everyone decided that those things do better, even though that's not accurate and has been proven inaccurate many, many, many times. But yeah, if you like something, chances are there has been a new version that's been canceled already. There's going to be a new version or there's currently a new version on the air

or in theaters. Why? Well, I think at the end of history, you don't need to make a new history you're just running out the clock waiting for it to wrap up right uh that's sort of a philosophical answer i think the answer i would give is that uh it's a conservative way for corporations to feel safe in making decisions about new shows and movies. Do you know about a private equity? You know what?

It's too much to get into now. A lot of fear based stuff going on nowadays. Uh, I ate eight AM, a scrambled eggs, bacon, potato, and sourdough platter from La Brea express.

No, that would be really good if i went down there but yeah what a surprise uh and it was right before the park opened and it was fine i'll say it was fine uh i feel like it wasn't uh it wasn't anything special, maybe. I think we should establish the drinking game with this series, that when we say fine, you take a shot. Reliable, though. Like starting your day off. You mean you won't see like a...

It was filling. There won't be a bug in your meal. I don't know. I didn't think he'd do that. The bread's good. The baked goods are good. I will say the bread is fine. I've never found the bread like special or anything. Anytime I've ever had the bread's good the baked goods are good i will say the bread is fine i've never found the bread like special or anything anytime i've ever had the bread i guess if you went in 2001 the bread

is special but as with as all brands decay yes that's probably right and i think you can buy like sourdough bread like everywhere i mean i guess not like it was invented in 2001 by any means but i like sourdough bread a lot. I guess also maybe my problem is that sourdough bread isn't maybe my number one go-to bread. Sometimes you get a good piece at a restaurant if you're like maybe a slightly better restaurant. I had two slices. Wait, what? I had two slices for breakfast.

Of sourdough bread? I had scrambled eggs and sourdough toast, yeah. Interesting. How big is a piece of sourdough bread? I had scrambled eggs and sourdough toast, yeah. Interesting. How big is a piece of sourdough toast? It depends on how the loaf is cut, because some sourdough loaves are really big. Are you cutting your own loaf? No, it's just Ralph, whatever Kroger brand at Ralph's. It's a smaller, it was, they were smaller.

That's a pretty decent sized piece you're doing there. You're doing like the lens on like a film director when he's imagining the scene. One was the end, the one piece was the end. end okay and then the other piece i put some eggs on and do you toast it sourdough toast yeah that's why i said i toast oh yeah you did say that uh it tends to keep longer and i usually freeze bread anyway i find it so hard it's like it's not i like a little softer bread i'll eat a hard piece of bread. I like the California Pizza Kitchen. Is that sourdough? Those little pieces?

Those are ciabatta. Good little dipping. Great dipping oil in the little... Yeah, that's great. Is that... That's ciabatta. It's ciabatta. Okay. I like that better, I think, than sourdough.

I find that cuts up the roof of my mouth. Really? I'm more of a focaccia man. What's the difference between focaccia? Focaccia is like the real thick... I'm a focaccia man. What's the difference between focaccia? Focaccia is like the real thick. I'm a focaccia man. Thick, kind of, sometimes the top's salty or oily. I guess when it comes down to it, I'm just a soft bread kind of guy.

Okay. Sector Keeper, do you have a preference with hard or soft bread? Okay, I guess not. Scott, what do you think um i don't think i can picture i guess it's i guess soft soft with no crust okay yeah yeah yeah you're still a wonder bread uh you're a wonder bread guy yeah fun that is fun yeah yeah. Heavy on the J. Have you ever had a PB&J Jewel? Those have got to be out there, right? Whoa, that sounds good. That's what you need to look for.

Yeah. I've got mango mint, Reese's Cup. God damn it. Let's see what else I've got in my backpack. Do you guys want some? No, I'm good. I think I'm fine. I've got in my backpack You guys want some? No I'm good I think I'm fine I've got Fun Dip

Oh is that Big League Chew? Big League Chew Grape Yeah You want some? Well maybe Honestly I just want the actual product Not the

I'd eat some cotton candy Before I'd have Cotton Candy Jewel I've got cotton candy nice mint cotton and another mint so it's all yeah like and then reese's mint yeah they're all mint you have a mint you have a regular version of everything and then a mint version of it as well um do you need i feel like i you know uh maybe between this one and the next one, I'll buy you a, I will buy you a peanut butter and jelly jewel. Oh, yeah. So, before the next depicise.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'll hook you up. We can't take you to the movie yet. We don't have time. But, yeah, I'll hook you up. So, I'm looking at La Brea Bakery's website. Did you find all of their, like, bragging on their website? No.

Do you know what i'm talking about uh i know silverton and her husband uh what is his name peel who opened the restaurant with her um i know they both worked with wolfgang puck is that a brag i think it's kind of a brag certainly they just sort of list their accolades and the awards they've won and then it lists it by year so then it'll just be like one a one thing a year and then they'll just miss a couple years so it's like on the website it'd be like labrea bakeries par baked sourdough baguette wins the competition against local sourdough breads to the surprise of san francisco residents consumers known for their community allegiances

this is in 1997 la baby it's in the san francisco chronicle so they're like bragging that they beat some local san francisco like local bread maker when san francisco's such a sourdough yeah it is a big and yet the better version came from la and this is of course this is these are consumers known for their community allegiances as says on the bakery Brea Bakery website. They've confused these. They're no longer an agent to their community. Washington Post awards La Brea Bakery sourdough baguette with first place in their artisan bread roundup.

I mean, that's a big deal to win a roundup, a bread roundup, which, of course, Jason's judged a few bread roundups in his day. Well, sure. That has to be some sort of country music type situation, right? A roundup which of course jason's judged a few bread roundups in this day sure which is that that has to be some sort of country music type situation right around up around up it's fine it sounds fun is what i'm getting at you have to before you can eat it you have to lasso it and get it over to you that's great that's very fun jason really expertly lasso a bread and pull it hog tie it harder ones are easier to catch rope sticks and more uh 2003 oprah winfrey features labrea bakery's granola on her talk show as one of oprah's favorite things for spring wow pretty good uh 2004 they're supposed to not talk about this on their website

if oprah gave me an award i'd talk about the oprah one i get but the one where they like shit on the local bread makers. Crushing local businesses, yes. 2004, the Los Angeles Times declares La Brea Bakery its bread winner in the best of everything issue. So it was making all the money for the paper? I guess. And then, so then the word sort of like dissipate a little bit. And then it's just 2011.

It's like soft flour tortillas are introduced into our retail segment. Wow. That's like industry speak. But I think at a certain point, a place becomes like I would call La Brea Bakery in Southern California ubiquitous. Yeah. You know, it becomes less special because it's just everywhere. Well, last thing, 2017 released 2017 released fortuna demi baguettes

and that's all it is that's i mean i remember 2017 i honor it every year demi baguettes have been released so i just just missed so much most of what you've missed is labrea bakery tentpole um news moments um i want to make sure we aren't upsetting the apple cart here i feel like by talking about all that stuff we invisibly transitioned from labrea bakery express to labrea bakery cafe or the company as a whole do you have any is are there any uh poor rulings for what we just did did you need to give us permission to move on no felt seamless to me okay good good because i got a lot of parent company stuff okay good not for this but just in general for our journey oh okay yes uh yeah yeah a lot of my stuff is parent company as well uh

mine when we're talking about the sit down restaurant uh we were there the other night and i passed by a sign that they have Hard kombucha And it is called June Shine Yes I saw that I have not tried that yet What is it called again? June Shine June Shine Seems up your alley SK

Yeah it sounds like juice Maybe What is I'm not a kombucha person uh cool kombucha it's here we go ferment i i am but i like the one that tastes a little more candy-ish a lot of some people hate it i think it's like a it's almost like uh uh turmeric or cilantro that's what i'm on a list of any item mike you like the one that tastes a little more candy-ish yes i do uh but there's i think true kombucha is a lot more vinegary yeah than because there's some that are more like raw and natural that uh can be a little unpleasant but there's a a version that's like tart cherry uh that cavita i think i forget

which brand it is um that's very sugary so i imagine this liquor is a sugar the sugary version of kombucha i don't think i like hard of things i think i like hard hard i like liquor that is liquor and not liquor put into lemonade like hard seltzer you don't like you're not a white claw boy you tried any white claw no oh you're when you're old enough buddy Sector keeper You're in Yeah It's We can't say all this liquor talk Is going to be a problem

We're going to be bad influences It's like low calorie Hard water I like it It just tastes like You know La Croix But with some alcohol in it

Oh gross La Croix I want juice man Give me the real stuff i want high c capri sun sunny d oh yeah cool commercials too i'll say all those commercials have gotten a lot more boring and since you were a kid there's less fake stuff and all of it i think i think like the fake stuff used to be now everything has to tout the natural nature but as a kid you just drank all this fake shit which is probably which probably made you like fun and full of energy i gave you strength yes yeah juice gives

me strength well juice is a lot more boring now i'm sorry to tell you there's been a shit which we'll encounter in the future jamba juice episode that there's been a big turn away from juice um sector keeper i'm sorry to say who knew when you rescue me i'd be living in hell you liked it better when you were all in hell now um i think the hard kombucha thing though isn't interesting like the places that have stuck around downtown disney the most have had to keep up with the times. And that's not something hard kombucha is something even five years ago. I think people would be like, what? What are you talking?

Like, what? For sure. Yeah. That's me now. And I'm sure La Brea had to, like, deal with, like, the low carb craze. I'm sure they had some sort of probably shitty tasting thing to accommodate cut a big hole in the bread for a while yeah yeah i try not to even have soft bread i have very little bread in the house in the apartment really very little i try not to eat

even bread when i'm not unless i'm out oh yeah everybody hates bread now sector keeper that's yeah yeah bread is so out from the nest yeah not me i always buy bread i'm a toast guy in the yeah i gotta you buy and freeze i do but yeah freeze it i do too yeah do you do you freeze it to you so you make toast from the frozen bread yeah yeah okay very simple yeah easy makes the last longer i don't have lindsey has some toast or some bread in the house but i never buy it anymore but it's everybody hates it everybody's like bread is so the food enemy at this at this or like it's like a like it's a little cheat it's a little treat it's a treat yeah yeah just breathe it out it is getting humid in here from all this yeah i know all these plumes it's it's thick

boredom coughs or just jolting a lot coughs my throat hurts it could be both have we missed anything about both yeah i see yeah i'm good on lab about La Brea Bakery? It's a little bit of both, yeah I'm good on La Brea Bakery You know, it's a fine sit-down If you want your sort of like $8 arugula salad Yeah If you're trying to fulfill that parking That, you know, validation obligation

Yes It's fine And it's open before the park is open Yes Maybe that's a cafe I don't know about the cafe We're talking cafe we moved on so long ago i think it is any of the places that have breakfast usually open a little

before the park so yeah so check it out if you want something that's fine yeah the fine drinking game i think we're gonna almost every establishment that is the highest praise we will give it's fine uh so that being said oh you, you know what's around here? We haven't, actually, and not unrelated to the jewel that's in the air, I feel like this is a zone where you get a pretty big maple smell. That fake Disney maple. Am I correct about that? Have you noticed that around here, specifically?

You mean like it's just me breakfasty type smell yeah i think so maybe coming from where trying to draw you where i think i i think into labrea bakery oh okay even though that's not the most mapley spot food wise yeah i associate this zone with fake maple smell i think maybe it's just trying to make you think about food in general yeah it's like how and then i remember we haven't we had an argument about this and it was never fully resolved but there's fried chicken smell when we came off of space mountain and you were telling me it was real and i was like there's no way it's real the restaurant's not even right by here well i was saying but i was saying down the strip the plaza is like frying chicken all day right but i'm saying it's fit all

of those smells you smell are fake or like the majority of them because they're just trying to make your mouth water you waited in line for a little while maybe you should get a bite to eat now yeah yeah because yeah yeah they're trying to trick you social engineering i guess psychological warfare that is how we that would be the way to break you is to pump a bunch of fried chicken smell into somewhere and then you can then there is no fried chicken uh yeah yeah i think you got me begged you driving like jesse pinkman el camino style with like a car full of those smells that you stole from backstage at disneyland in a timely El Camino reference. Yeah, of course.

It's out by now, honestly. Well, sure. We all love it and we've all got takes on it. But we don't have time for that today. No, but of course we know Gus Fring is alive. We know that. They're all alive. They're all resurrected.

Everybody's watched it by now. Yes, everyone is alive. He's walking around in a zombie state with a half face gail is alive or he picked up maybe what we didn't see he fell to the ground after the bomb and then picked up also remarkably the same amount of face was left from hector and he just attached that sewed it to himself yeah with nursing home materials patched it up so uh as we all we all saw the movie right we all just described what we saw yeah yeah i thought it was cool how gus spring had a quarter of a hector face

i think that was great i loved the movie i loved it too i hope it's good i'm recording this before it was i mean i saw it and i loved it well the irishman was good for sure we can all agree on the irishman is three and a half hours long i heard oh my god 210 minutes man you put you put jimmy hoffa in it as a character in a movie that movie gets along uh all right maple smell great yeah i'm all for those fake smells by the way sure um fountain there's a big fountain right oh yeah we didn't talk about that i'm sorry i'm sorry you have to describe the landscaping and the architecture uh here's the thing sector keeper it is not a fountain that you can walk into you would have to make a point

of jumping in there some people would argue you shouldn't walk into any of the fountains i imagine you more than anyone would argue number one yeah yes but it is blocked off you can't walk around in there do you guys know the name of the fountain it has a name oh i missed that it's the poppy fountain really oh it looks like a pop it looks like a poppy you know one of those things that doesn't occur to you for 18 years of a place being open right so that and by and passing by it dozens and dozens of times. Hundreds for me. Because they want you to, as I've said before, respect those who passed in the fields of Flanders. Oh, it's a tribute to that.

It's a tribute to that? Yes, of course. Like from so many episodes ago. It's, so you would pass by what's obviously a poppy and then you would go see what was obviously a picture postcard tiled mosaic entry to california adventure right that i feel like it's a remnant of that like what it is what what's this supposed to be uh yes yeah yeah so you're looking at it right now yes uh yeah it's

orange it's kind of like there's a lot of things like this in in downtown disney actually this was very much when it opened it was full of petals and even the monorail station is supposed to be like palm banana lee i don't know i don't know that is like yes that is inspired by tavoli gardens uh if your uh takeaway from tavoli gardens is like the dictionary defines gardens as places where flowers live it's like these big moody toots kind of like yes gardens flower big flower also strong smell emanating from that that's very chloriney yes yes yes over there we were discussing what didn't there used to be a sign over there that said downtown disney and now there is not well Well, they had moved the security checkpoints, which used to be sort of right there, and now they're before you even get on the tram.

So that caused a removal of the sign. So I think it was part of the, I could be totally misremembering this, but it was kind of part of the whole setup there, and they openedembering this, but it was kind of part of the whole setup there. And they opened it up now and now it's just sort of. I think it kind of got pushed further into the Esplanade. Man, that was a real bad choke point when a bag check was there. Yeah, man, that was a very good move. Yeah, that's good for sure.

It did open it up. But, you know, we all went down there together. We all took a trip with our teenage ghostly ward friend friend ward i think uh ward our young ward uh the sector keeper and uh you were you were saying you don't you were like is this it when does downtown disney start there's no clear entry point there There's no sign, no, really no thought put into it. There's a sign by the abandoned ESPN zone. Oh, yeah, I guess. If you're coming from that way.

Yeah, there's that. Which we were that time. But then the other way, there's no sign, which is why we had to make that discussion. Is the Honda the beginning? But when the Honda's gone, which i imagine it's not a permanent fixture a galaxy is promoting honda then how do we know where it starts i think it's the the at the end of the outdoor seating area i think the the honda what a shitty entry point is a table and two chairs is the beginning of downtown disney Hmm. They got to fix this.

They have to fix it somehow. I don't know how they're going to do it. Honestly, I don't even have a good plus up for it. A sign. This is what keeps you boys up at night. You're not wrong. That's a good point. This is how we spend our lives.

That's a good point. But what about a place that just recently got a plus up? The massive World of Disney store. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. a place that just recently got a plus up the massive world of disney store yeah yeah yeah full of toys full of toys it now looks something like a pure one imports ran headfirst into an apple store there's a lot of popcorn bowls now a lot of brick a lot of brick in this store a lot of spots of like hey maybe you buy that and then you hold it against under this big sign that says like um i don't know what

the signs a lot of instagram shit oh i see that's a running instagram i think yeah there's some cool a lot of instagram light up letter like the that's that thing that everything has where it's a big letters with light bulbs in the middle yeah they put that in that and like knew who the sign of hip from starting in what 2013 a bunch of stuffed bolts under a popcorn uh light bulbs that say squad yeah yes hold up your bolt hold up your stuffed bolt oh yeah you you encountered bolt i will post a picture of you and bolt you were very delighted by bolt yeah good to see disney's bolt voiced by who was the voice uh the very normal john travolta oh yes our normal friend you should get him on the pod yeah we should i don't think it'll be that

hard and just only ask him about that music video with his daughter every little step yeah yeah brown cover yeah oh my god it's one of my favorite things it's from old dogs oh yeah disney yeah i want to ask him about basic okay there's maybe a couple episodes yeah maybe a couple episodes worth of things cedric huber what happened since you were frozen is that john travolta the dad from look who's talking oh yeah came back in a big way was the coolest actor on the planet and then since then it all ended and he's not anymore huh yeah kind of went on a strange odyssey but broken arrow rules oh you do like you did Odyssey. But Broken Arrow rules. You did catch Broken Arrow. Broken Arrow has got some fun parts in it, I will say. As you're sort of

re-acclimating to the world and forming belief systems, just stay away from Battlefield Earth. Don't watch them. I know it looks cool and he looks cool and it beats. Yeah, but I'd say stick with Star Wars if you want sci-fi and not. You just might get some weird lessons out of Battlefield Earth. Okay.

Just advice from me to you my young my young ward i think another thing you see in the world of disney that you see a lot of disney merchandise outlets now is like the stuff catered to our generation the older millennials starting to have more disposable income who uh will never buy a house but have a little money to buy like a like a shirt of chippendale dabbing here's the thing i will i want that shirt with chippendale dabbing uh i shouldn't buy it right i don't have a job if i have a job though the first thing i'm going to do is head down there and get that Chippendale dabbing shirt. Your job is called the Downtown Disney ordeal. That's a good point.

That's a good point. And maybe right after this, I'll go down and get the dabbing shirt. It's a very rewarding job. I don't think there... We'll talk about this, I assume, somehow. There used to be a place called D Street in Downtown Disney, which would cater a little bit more to this type of consumer.

Now they've folded it into World of Disney. I still don't feel that I am being catered to enough in World of Disney. But don't you think our tastes are very specific? There's a lot. There is an upswing of Disney afternoon stuff, but it is a little generic. Yes, I think it's slowly getting there but I still like those cool they have shirts now there's those cool like a

Disneyland it's yellow and it's got the kind of multicolored logo yeah that's getting a little bit closer to our aesthetic I think the designs are getting nicer the material of the shirts is still a total crapshoot yes it depends country they were made

what factory they were made of what color the shirt is it's still a lot of haynes beefy teas yeah it is still a majority haynes bvt yeah they were doing is that your favorite shirt yeah that's all i have yeah it's pretty baggy i mean i guess the shirts and the thick thick i want thick cotton that goes down to my knees kind of coming back in style the baggy it is low comeback style it is i uh the beefier the better yeah well that's you can go world disney and 90 of the shirts are haynes beefy teas uh the uh they had this series of shirts called yester ears that we all have a couple of which really cool retro-y designs they've stopped doing them apparently is that the one where before we were doing the podcast we all group did an order yes to get a discount village shirts to

get a discount we all bought shirts that had the Walt Disney World Village logo on it. We should all bring them to Florida and coordinate where I go. Yeah, that's not a bad idea. That's kind of cute. We've already done it. That's in the past. Oh, yes. We've been to Florida and we're back. That's right.

I bought a Country Bears shirt from there. I have maybe one or two other ones. Why did it take Nick Mundy saying, hey, do a theme park podcast to make us realize we all, the three of us without, we didn't know this was in the cards and we all bought the same shirt together there's a lot of things that we've done that you would think oh well they knew they were eventually gonna like they just did that to talk about it eventually and I'm like no no no we would have done that for free we would have done it for free anyway uh so I just they're not getting there yet they're not hitting that sweet spot i guess

they assume that maybe the audience isn't there for stuff like that i guess but uh that's still i would love a little like nook in world of disney just for maniacs like us well they do have a shirt that says i'm so fly i never land and who's on that uh i don't know tinkerbell apparently okay or peter it's like a like hashtag bay in the beast and like that's the type of shirt that'll be market they're cornering is current slang mixed with old characters yes which is good for jason but maybe not for scott and i yeah yeah yeah we jason loves it but the dabbing i like we aren't saying we're here for things as much as jason is right there's like uh i'm trying to think uh it's like a picture a stitch on a shirt that says hashtag sicko mode oh sure and that's flounder

like swimming along and it says this slaps mrs potts and chip and it says that's the tea how is this they don't have that one yeah that's it as usual we're giving the gold away for free yeah it's a lot of that which again i don't i don't dislike all of it i just wish like i was trying to think of truly like what some of our like ultimate merch items would be. And let me ask you this, Jason, because I really only the best thing I could think of was what this was for you. Would you buy the authentic John from Carousel of Progress's rocking chair if they made a recreation of it?

And maybe it came with his like fanningning his like little fan that he fans himself with when it's a hot summer day yeah 100 it's gonna be that rocking chair yeah i'm just trying to think of the ultimate piece of niche i guess he's in the kitchen my grandparents did have a kitchen that looked a lot like his kitchen yeah so like the john okay so not only would you buy the rocking chair you would also buy like the John collection of all his outfits over the years? Yeah. I just want any John merchandise. There was one.

The John line. There was one. Hashtag live your John. Hashtag live your John. Which John are you? Which decade of John are you? Or Uncle Orville? Uncle Orville.

Like a no privacy at all in here shirt. Yeah, but I'm talking about like a high-end clothing line that's all of John's outfits. Not just a picture of John. Yeah, like the Lord of the Rings sword replica. Yes, this is high-end as it comes. I guess that's maybe sort of what I... I guess maybe there's not a huge market for that,

but, like, what would be the... I would consider it, or, like, the Alien Encounter alien, like the tube with, like, the alien sticking out. If they sold, obviously, like, a life-size Rex, Scott, I think you're in for that. Well, my answer would have been a full photo reel Captain EO suit if I could get the exact full,

but now I'm arrested if I walk out. I was going to say, maybe that's not a good idea. That would have been the answer at one point in time. What about just like a life-size Hooter? Oh yeah, Hooters in my... Yeah. They aren't all canceled, are they? No, no, they're fine. Because I have a pl yeah hooters in my yeah they aren't all canceled are they i can still

find i have fuzzball in my little plush fuzzball you have a plush fuzzball but what if it was the real one oh yeah and it flew it flew a drone fuzzball yes make this happen uh-huh oh abs there you go absolutely i was gonna say shirt wise if i could get a shirt that lit up with the neon tumbling mickeys from tomorrowland oh that's a great way to say in that pattern yeah yeah that's my dream shirt that's great what about you mike honestly i would out big al you could crawl inside of i think uh country bear instruments maybe like big al's guitar or something that was a playable and like or like a little piano or a you know mouth harp harmonica something like that uh i think i just wish there was a niche

a little corner that you would like every couple months they would just put out the most insane thing for maniacs like us and you go oh my it they did this who's gonna buy this and then i would buy it so as long as one person yeah it's fun it's fun to get like a corner of that market a little more that's so much fabrication though i feel like they just kind of default to like hey what about this hawaiian shirt version this yes i get i get they're trying they need to turn wallpaper by doing putting all of the like putting you know uh mulan on a shirt and then it says nevertheless she persisted that's what they that's where the market is right that is that they look they know exactly what is gonna sell so the most 2019 shirt you know what they did actually in this area that is good we do remember we we encountered

those notebooks that look like the old clamshell the vhs like yeah it's a yeah yeah like they've done a couple looks like an old beauty and the beast the thick vhs case that's a great that's that's getting into our that's getting there for sure um vhs is gone such a keeper it's all it's all these things streamers and like they they like organized it to where now it's just a couple streamers and to afford all of them it's more expensive than all of your vhs and cable channels put together you can still find dvds which are like if movies were on cds they look like cds yes yes i yes i know yes yeah but vhs gone vhs is gone yeah i'm sorry to say um yeah you stream um now now you stream uh and all the so don't try to go to a blockbuster

don't try to get a job at a blockbuster because they're they're uh kaput i was wondering because that was your first thought probably was yeah you wrote like jobs at blockbuster.com yeah you're knowing about email yes yes and nobody responded yes. And nobody responded. No one. Oh, this is a lot. Every day is a lot for me. Every day you're discovering new terrible facts. Nevertheless, you persisted. Nevertheless.

Okay, you're that shirt. I'd want like a hockey stick from Mighty Ducks. Oh, which player was your favorite in the Mighty Ducks? Fulton. Oh, yeah. He hit the puck hard. You know, Keenan from Mighty Ducks 2, essentially since you died, has been on Saturday Night Live the entire time.

But I died over 30 years ago well the vast majority of it your buddy the hockey the cool hockey player has been america's leading uh sketch man on snl for decades you can now the laws changed it used to be like a two-term rule uh like like the presidency but they they destroyed that as they imagined that they will with the with the presidency snl went away then came back like others shows no still still going um yeah um yeah what what's happened? I mean a lot. Yeah, it's... Alec Baldwin's basically a cast member now. What?

From the shadow. From the Beetlejuice, you know. Yeah. Sounds good. Does this make it sound any more appealing that he's extremely angry Rudy Giuliani was Poor impression

Mayor Remember the mayor Rudy Giuliani I don't know That might be after his time right No I think he You might have He cleaned up New York

Oh yes And he told He was briefly America's hero And now he is a great villain in his later years he's losing his mind all right anything else i i forget are we allowed to talk about the way it used to look in this this is what a lot we are encouraged okay encourage so basically yeah like a couple years ago it's all it's pretty new they changed this around and the outside first of all the font i will say and this in the logo and the store logo or basically looked like this and that is

a little out that looks like 2001 california adventure it's a little misty oh yes yeah steampunky steampunky and i think the new logo looks better i think it looks more modern but i will i do lament the loss of this insane like huey dewey and louie looking out of a giant like i don't know telescope really big at the end and it's a giant eyeball. You can see they're big people. I knew it was them. I never made the connection.

It would be one of their eyes. Yes. I thought it was a contraption that had a giant eye. It's Louie's eye. Okay. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. So I do feel like I'm a little bit bummed that this ridiculous looking stead, it's almost

like something from Batman Forever forever where or batman and robin where the architecture is so like perverse it's from wild wild west wild wild west that's good that's probably better uh i do think like that's a bummer that they're gone they all look like christmas ornaments a little bit too yeah in their look i get it that it doesn't maybe work with it the other side was tweedle d and tweedle dumb on like a little contraption operating a like a big seesaw that is also a flying machine yeah i'm a little less interested in that so okay less less fondness but you like the big telescope i like the big telescope and i like the nephews so it's a bummer they didn't put the nephews back in some capacity so the theme used to be your favorite disney this is a lab where your favorite disney characters operate retro future machine like yes

machinery thingamajigs right and now the theme have you guys read like the backstory and everything a little bit you probably know it better now the what the world of disney now is that the world of disney now is supposed to be a former the new theme is that it used to be a bus depot okay i don't know and now it's an animation studio for disney artists and they okay wait a minute no wait or it became i think it was an animation studio once and then became a bus depot and now it's a store and they took all of the like the the the the walls that they went down to the like the bones of the walls and found all this like magic stuff inside i think i saw some of that because they have like the moving sort of pictures and there's like a tribute to the nine old men

and there's a bulletin board in there as if like yes it's the animation studio yeah something as clear as levels and stages really tidy um the fact that i'm confused about it shows it really communicates but then there's this whole history where okay uh walt disney has the animation studio in burbank and then it's going so well that he expands to locations in Downtown Disney and Disney Springs which were there then? What? Yes, okay, so that's gonna be a thing I keep coming across where like

places in Disney Springs place as an appropriate other in Downtown Disney That's what it feels like they're slowly starting to fill out Disney Springs with in downtown disney okay that's what there feels like they're slowly starting to fill out disney springs with uh-huh not quite with the unifying architectural style that took a while to build in disney springs a lot of things are in are in both yeah there's a

lot of stores that are that were the including world of disney that is that's that is in Anaheim and Orlando, which means we don't have to do a Disney Springs saga? No. Nice try. Oh, fuck. No way. Thought I'd try. So did you keep her back me up? Two against two?

Tie? I can't say much now. Oh, fuck. But the fate of the world depends on it. Oh, no. Oh, man. The stakes keep getting greater. All right. So we'll have to do

girl of sandwich two yeah i have to yeah get to second starbucks two uh anyway so it's a bus depot animation studio that comes to life and there's enchanted paint jars it's gonna be so great to talk about this all a second time yeah the enchanted paint jars. It's going to be so great to talk about this all the second time. Yeah. The enchanted paint jars I kind of like, honestly. I do too. I like the colors there. I like that. Well, anywhere they add little flourishes.

And we were watching like a painting of the castle come to life. That's fun. Yeah. The sketches turn a lot. The posters change. It'll be like that cool 40s poster of Fantasmic. And then it'll shift over to aristocrats or whatever and the characters move that stuff's all cool they do a good job you know about about 10 years ago

when steve jobs sat on the disney board and eiger sat on the apple board um there he consulted with disney to kind of plus up the disney retail locations and gave them access to apple store like um data like like stuff they have found works well design elements that work well and the the apple retail people like helped out disney sort of redo the stores that's why it's a less you see it a little more minimal now than like the 90s kind of like design stuff everywhere, which is sort of a trend in downtown Disney. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In general, when this place opened, and CityWalk both, too many aesthetics, too much check

on unpacking, too much stuff into a tiny space. And Steve Jobs led the way for minimal is okay, and perhaps preferred. More relaxing shopping experience. Right. Interesting. I will quickly lament the loss of the park stars the tiny vinyl figures that i have over 50 of and that they also they didn't get to stuff that we needed like john from carousel they were little figures they were park specific characters toys and they never got

to john carousel progress there's a bunch of other ones. Yeah. And now they have different versions of them, but I'm just not in love. They're tinier. I'm not in love like I was. It was very much a time, the early 2010s of like, well, Kid Robot is popular. Let's try to do vinyl figs like that.

And they had the vinylmation for a long time and then that kind of tapered off and then everyone went wild for Funko P and they're kind of funko pops there is a monopoly and yeah there's a this has also come out already there was a 1500 uh run exclusive mickey matterhorn pop that i hopefully now have somehow or they've released in the parks but it is adorable there's also a mickey skyliner pop that i think has come out in the time we've talked about this both very good i don't love all the pops sometimes a little generic but i have a couple of them the ones that are good yeah i think that was like disney was like okay we can stop building our own and

just like start a relationship with this company anyways bring back yesteryears bring back park stars yes please uh is it do we do it are we done that's it i think we beat the first boys yes yes congratulations i just received a text message from the level keeper he says he can't say much now but you give him and i great strength hey wonderful i'm so glad to hear it and i have something to give you boys unlike the city walk saga where you received the sector stones oh yeah yeah yeah okay it's not stones i'll be giving you something that you will place in an inventory okay so stones are now items stones are now items boys like zelda like zelda yeah what i'm giving you now will come into use at some point in your journey i'm giving you a loaf of sourdough bread from labrea bakery

signed by nancy Silverton and Mark Peel. An autographed sourdough bread. Wow. People who are no longer affiliated with the company. So it's very rare. It's original. Wow. Oh, so it's old then.

Yes, but... It's very stale bread. But it's been frozen, so it's old then. Yes, but... It's very stale bread. But it's been frozen, so it's still... Hey! Oh, wow. Jason and I's method. Yes, yes. Bread around the house.

Now, I'll give it to you because you are licking your lips. Don't trust me. Don't trust me with that look. I'm hiding this away. I'll crack a tooth on that frozen bread. So, I'll put that in Mike's fridge. That's a guarantee. All right. away. I'll crack a tooth on that frozen bread. So I'll put that in Mike's fridge. That's a guarantee.

Alright. Boys, boys, you give me great strength. Yeah. And my cousin, the level keepers, he's excited you're taking this journey and he hopes you can rescue him. Or her. Or her. Depending on what happens

or who we can get the spirit world is it's unclear we can't see that even their communications are coming through we can't quite see them yes and the sector keeper is doing so much jewel he doesn't remember the gender of yes we mostly can't see because of all the like water vapor in the air we can barely see you sector keeper it's so thick in here one of you have any visine jason you have a bag you carry around with everything in it you're having eye troubles right now yes i do i said i've been having a slowly been having an allergy attack in my eyes for about two days now so i do have drops with antihistamines oh so well whenamines oh so yeah we'll give you

some of those all right and a promise is a promise let's go get a peanut butter and jay uh jewel yeah yeah all right i'll hook you up um okay well so we're off to the races yeah here we go that wasn't so bad no we cleared that stage pretty easily level will level oh yes i know what it is i know it's their fault not mine uh we cleared we cleared the stage but keep in mind this wasn't a boss one so be every third day be aware the stakes will be higher the chance of death will be higher yes uh and we'll see what we can do i feel all right on to the next thing uh hey you survived podcast the ride the downtown disney ordeal level one stage one wow it's gonna be so fun to say that every time for more podcasts the ride and more downtown

disney ordeal follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. What's our hashtag? Is it... Oh, shit. You know? We gotta figure that out. Free the level keeper. Yeah.

Yeah. Save the level keeper? Yeah. Save more than free. Well, free, I guess we are freeing. DDO. Hashtag DDO. Hashtag save the level keeper

that's good hashtag ddo dto no no no no dd is like one word right yeah is it yeah in their depiction oh my notes are okay yeah so what is it it's at it's two hashtags you have to use if you want to tweet about any of this. It's hashtag DDO. Right. And then hashtag... Save the level. Save the level keeper. Great.

And hashtag sector keepers cricket wireless severance. Yes. That's so long. Twist that at cricket wireless, please. Yeah, there we go. Help me. Thank you. They're sitting on money somewhere they gotta give it to you hey and for

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