Podcast: The Ride - Downtown Disney Ordeal 2-2

Episode Date: November 12, 2019

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Forever Dog Darkness falls out on the street Evil rears its head Get your crazy shake to go And your fried donut bread Beignets The villains threaten this sacred place

This downtown shopping mall We must defend the Lego store And the Splitsville bowling balls The Downtown Disney or to you We must protect our AP discount meals The Downtown Disney or to you But secrets does the Earl of Sandwich conceal Boys, boys, my cousin has been taken by evil forces that have inhabited Downtown Disney

In order to find them, you will need to thoroughly discuss every aspect of the mall, stores, restaurants, and both of the Starbucks. We have 15 daily, very necessary episodes in which to do so. I will be there to guide you and keep your conversations from getting too off-topic or boring. The Downtown Disney Ordeal. Why do we do this to ourselves welcome to podcast the ride the downtown disney ordeal level two stage two day five is that

correct uh yes yeah it has to be correct all right you've been we're back in another one of those grooves you and i the audience and, and us, I mean. Yeah. You've been hearing us for a lot of days in a row. I hope you've enjoyed the inbox overloading, and we're going to keep on blasting. My name is Scott Gairdner, joined by Mike Carlson and Jason Sheridan. Hi. Let's, I don't know.

Let's get to it. I guess we can, yes. No fun banter up top let's just get to the thing let's just get through let's help let's help let's not waste time with a bunch of stuff that isn't really anything no and it won't happen during the episode let's just be all business all business today that's what we've decided for today's episode meander and uh in in the in the service of that let's uh summon the sector keeper for one quick sec and then he'll go back to whatever no good shit he's doing uh sector keeper where are we heading today boys boys today's stage contains the disney dress shop marzelline's confectionery and katal restaurant good luck boys okay thus we have landed at the disney dress shop

uh gentlemen let's talk dresses yes and you have i think you said because look i looked around yeah you made a point to go and and you'll tell us what happened with that. Yeah. But other than that, this is a fun place where you can buy a Disney-inspired dress. Some not inspired, necessarily. Some aren't inspired. Some are not as inspired as others, is all I'm going to say. It is an official Disney store that feels like they're trying to make a buck on

disney bounding which is dressing like in the style of disney characters but not wearing a costume which you cannot do and also trying to make a little bit of a buck off the uh you know the mod cloth style of vintage inspired a little yeah yeah pin-up-y uh i don't know burlesque isn't the right word but it's it's like it's all there's a retro flare i looked at the mod cloth website and and read about the company a little and like they started selling actual vintage stuff and then they switched to quote vintage inspired stuff you can even shop by debt like 50s 60s 70s through now different styles right right uh yeah so all retro flair it's all big skirts and collars um i mean uh you know we're not gonna we're not wearing these no uh and i don't think that i think you know we probably have a lot of listeners who would wear

stuff from this uh from this place i don't think this would be uh i don't think this is lindsey's style i don't think this is aaron's style hmm yeah probably not i think that i yeah i don't think the bounding specifically i think you have to be a specific type of fan to be more into it i think maybe the style of dress she would wear i don't want to speak for her but i assume the style of dress she would wear, I don't want to speak for her, but I assume the style of dress, but maybe not the Bo Peep jumpsuit and convertible skirt. Yeah, I don't think Aaron would wear a dress with every Toy Story character on it.

And it's not knocking if you want. I'm just saying, yes, I think you're right in regards to that type of thing. I think the orange bird dress is kind of cute. I wrote down orange. But I think that one is oddly more like the sort of like the what is that nature of orange bird? The fact that it's like a little bit of a deeper reference and it could just be some odd pattern. Yes, it could just be kitsch uh it's very it's funny to me because orange bird is a magic kingdom specific character specific to one uh kind of specific to one quick service

uh dessert place that also acted as a promotional item for like the florida orange growers and stuff but it has taken on a life of his own and like i have bought an orange bird button on main street and disneyland so it does show up in the or they have orange bird like kitchen stuff or pillows i feel like shows up in orange bird uh merch and stuff uh and that's that's that's all cool embrace of orange bird is cool like the haunted they have this haunted mansion i don't know if this is all the same stuff they have in there but they have this haunted mansion dress i feel like that's kind of cool it's just maybe a bit limited in where you're gonna wear it is it the wallpaper yes yeah i feel like that's it's truly where it's like buying clothes to wear in the parks

yeah i guess it is really sort of for that lifestyle yeah so in the park obviously it fits but like yeah this is a hot more of a halloween time thing in general so you wear it to like halloween parties i don't know somebody's probably mad at me and saying you can wear this year round we wear like epcot or country bear shirts and yes and this is also the the maybe hypocritical nature of what i'm saying even is because like i'm wearing a mickey mouse shirt right now and it's like well just because i'm not willing to wear his little red shorts you think you're so much better like that so i i agree that oh please don't start wearing mickey shorts mickey's three months you've

justified i like them i like the mickey shorts counterpoint please start wearing mickey's little red shorts you once played mickey in a comedy show and you did not wear his little red shorts and i said why are you not wearing his little red shorts and you like i didn't even think about it yeah no do you said little every one of these times no it's a comedy podcast uh supposedly it's really more about rantings and ravings but yeah well this whole thing yeah boy what we're doing here is a whole different story. We're going to be ranting and raving on the street by the end of this. Yeah, so if you do have the Bo Peep jumpsuit, that's fine. I have 20 Mickey shirts. I have so many Mickey shirts.

The Bo Peep jumpsuit, that does feel like smart tie-in. Because she's wearing a jumpsuit in the movie kind of thing. It looks exactly like her costume. And jumpsuits are in fashion now. tie-in because she's wearing a jumpsuit in the movie kind of thing and it's exactly it looks exactly like jumpsuits are in fashion uh yeah um i like i don't i didn't see this in the store i see it on the website though did they have this hat box ghost satchel oh because i think this is cool as shit i like that a lot well that's all yeah we should say i guess yeah there's other stuff there's there's purses and backpacks yeah uh some very expensive items it almost feels like like it's easier to get away with kind of a more novelty accessory

than having the main item be yeah I don't know if that's just my sort of insecurity or not yeah but I know you're saying I mean I i've actually never been the one to cosplay at i've been to many gone to many a convention in my life but i've never really wanted to cosplay but it does feel like i would carry a hatbox ghost uh bag with me sure yeah that's fun maybe it's like maybe i'm describing like an unwillingness to dive into the water maybe just just pins and accessories as opposed to just going full tilt all the clothes relate to the obsession and you you own it and you work it yeah i guess maybe the clothes if i were to wear the clothes it would be reminding me of like i'm like trying to like pretend i'm still normal a normal person

with white clothes like you know shorts that don't have mickey's face on it i don't own any shorts that have mickey don't have red shorts with big white buttons not yet uh and on my uh socks undergarments no disney any of that that's all i'm wearing spider-man socks as we record so he's a disney prince oh my gosh yes he is again okay i yeah well and also i think i would feel uh you know as i i'd love the epcot aesthetic to an extent that's been described as fetishy yeah if i uh if i was dating someone who wore on their own volition or insisted on wearing a dress with the spaceship earth pattern i think that might be a little beyond the pale i was gonna say you'd be very excited honestly i think no i i don't know i think that's a bit much i think it would depend on what it looked like honestly i think i think of that well then

that dress does exist that's why i'm saying it right so you're saying that specific one that actually feels like pretty because it's a pattern given to me because it is a pattern it's like a geodesic pattern and i feel like i've seen it like even in non-disney stuff but you can't deny that that would be the point where people knowing that i dig epcot and then like i show up with some arm candy wearing the spaceship earth pattern and that's the point where somebody goes oh all right hang on buddy i guess if people knew oh i see it you see it's interesting because i wonder if people would even know that dress is spaceship earth unless like if unless they were a nerd they might turn it around interesting can you this is what you're talking about right yes? Yes. I think so.

Yeah, I don't know. It's subtle enough. I guess if you frame it in that way, that it was like, you know, Scott's spaceship earth thing has gone a little too far.

Does he want to have sex with the ball? Yeah, I guess that framing of it would make sense. But honestly, if you were just an average Disney fan

who wasn't obsessed with the ball and you were with a lady Disney fan who wasn't obsessed with the ball, and you were with a lady who had that dress on, then perhaps it would be fine, honestly. Now, if I made somebody wear a full cloth ball with no face. Jimmy Stewart in Vertigo, sitting with Kim Novak in front of the hairdresser, and you were like, oh, make her the ball. You got to make her look like the ball.

Silver, more silver. More silver, and you were losing your mind. We go to a hair salon, and then it becomes that hair isn't even in the picture. Yes. Cover the hair. Cover the hair up. Make it a geodesic sphere. That foil you put on when you were dying

her hair put the foil back you just go all the way around scott you just love the ball you don't love me shut up the ball cover her mouth yeah that would be oh i wish you were full of scenes about the history of communication and later storytelling yeah that's a that's an issue all right so i'll try to avoid this i don't i don't think i will now that being said uh look if we were all being brave we all should have put on a disney dress that's clearly what we should have done i don't think anyone did it i would have tried sure could have been done uh probably would have made for a fun photograph well i feel like i'm so hard to shop for menswear in general with my proportions let alone women's wear so um so so look we didn't cover that base i did go into the disney dress shop with my wife erin uh there is are there things in this

store that she could wear and pull off absolutely sure uh hey even a you know a dress with mrs potts his face on it is a lot of fun uh i don't think i could see her wearing it on the town uh but just going to go to a movie going to the yard house uh but we wanted to pick something that is the the thing that she would the least wear right um and i i we definitely found it after some consideration it is very much the case that aaron would never go out in public dressed fully as red the Pirate. Oh, interesting. There's no world in which.

That feels complicated. I thought it was going to be Sally from Nightmare Before Christmas rag dress. That feels like a lot. Also not up there in Sally. That makes the Epcot dress look more subtle. If you consider that, your other option is pirate dress or rag dress. Does the pirate dress come with the hat? I don't know if it comes with the hat, but there is a hat. Right.

It might be a separate, I'm sure it's a separate buy, but there's a hat. And Aaron put on the hat. And I think the hat is the point of no return because I have a picture now. The clothing is certainly something that aaron would not wear but uh there is no universe in which aaron goes out in a three corner hat with a feather a three yeah tri-corner hat with a feather on and one of our taxation is theft rants um now she does of course you know she'll she'll refer to us all in a hearty way as boys whenever we're together but otherwise does not embody the spirit of red uh come on boys

to the wine bar uh i'm gonna show you a photograph of erin in red clothing. I don't think I've ever seen her so humiliated in my life. This is the biggest pout. That's a tiny hat, honestly. Yes, it's very tiny. The hat's too small. That's the problem. The problem is the hat is too small. That's the problem.

That's the only problem? Well, wait. I don't know. I think if you ditch the hat it just kind of looks like a dress you would wear to a casual wedding like a summer wedding it is like a corset with a but with a big tie it's a little like a shoelace i can't really i'm looking at here i didn't see the corset it's this thing uh yes that's correct With the kind of like multiple skirts. I think, I think also, is there a pose where she tried to be like, see like she was summoning everybody.

Like when Red says, they want the rum, the men want the rum. I don't think she had it in her. She didn't want to do, recreate the scene. I think wearing it crushed her spirits. I think the hat did 80% of the crushing. The hat should be here's the red walk around performer the hat needs to be at least this big you're right she has a big hat because the tiny hat looks funnier honestly yeah no one should wear a tiny hat the tiny hat with

it i totally agree looks really funny if she had the big hat i don't think i think it would have been worlds better because the tiny hat makes it look like you're a little doll or something the tiny hat i don't know it just it looks makes it more precious it looks too cartoony you've been trapped by some some like demented toy maker who's turning people into toys the indian in the cupboard or something like it's a doll you're a little doll and then you've been frozen so i i can't make a lot of fashion statements in a sweeping way but tiny tricorner hats out with tiny figures yeah for sure nature of fashion i do feel like you know that kind of string tie bodice

like does come into back into style every now and thinking about like red carpet photos or like going out trends of like the early 2000s late 90s and stuff i feel like that does pop up every now and then does it have skull does it have skulls on the bottom is that right i mean some skulls and some like black and white drawings of red it's also with this one specifically this does feel like you're going to be maybe uh it's more appropriate at a ren fair certainly yes that's what it seems like ren fair people the line between inspired and costume is very thin like inspired by that i drew my inspiration for my outfit from this and versus i am wearing a costume of this can be very thin. And I think the Disney dress shop, though it is in that Disney bound area and they do still feel costumey to me. And my recommendation to anybody interested in Disney bounding is

try doing it on your own because it's going to be cheaper. It's going to be more creative. Do a thrift store run and try to like, it on your own because it's going to be cheaper it's going to be more creative uh you know do do a thrift store run and try to like because if you can like represent the character with stuff you found and not just fork over a bunch of money into the disney dress shop i think that's more more fun and you'll get a more individualistic uh wardrobe that is my yeah because i do think the disney bounding thing was a fan createdcreated thing and a fan-driven thing. And this very much feels like the company trying to make money off the fan-driven thing

compared to when Mike and I were down there once and there was the Dapper Days convention. That's all just fan-affiliated companies selling to other fans. That feels better to me. That feels like people taking ownership of of something yeah the positive aspect you don't like the corporate involvement with uh disney bounding now that they're sort of making their money on it um i don't know i think i think it's kind of yeah it gets a little dicey because yeah they're at they're jacking up the prices sure of course um i don't know.

I do think it's more fun when, yeah, when you piece it together from thrift shop or people sewing their own stuff. I'm always impressed by that. I have no skill in, like, clothing creation. Do you think, I'm trying to think of, like, a Disney bounding thing I would do. Because I'm looking through,

now, John Stamos' wife, whose name is escaping me at the moment, a pretty uh notable Instagram Disney bounder and he has Disney bounded as Prince Eric have you seen these photos no no he's just wearing sort of an open white dress shirt and blue pants and a red belt yeah so is that all right it looks all right you wouldn't know exactly what he's doing but obviously in the context of disney um that they're having fun and he's yeah the shirt is a little of course too open for what i would be wearing but i could see wearing an outfit similar to this and not and being okay i don't know that i'm gonna do it but i'm just saying you brought up your chest issue jason i think that's my issue i don't think i have the chest to pull off eric yeah oh i see i'm not i am not uh you know i'm no i'm no gaston

i don't think i could be a jacqueline is john's wife's name caitlin mckew stamos i think one of the things when i said the corporate kind of co-opting of it is like we've been to comic-con for we've gone to comic-con a lot mike and i mike even more than i have but like probably in 10 years the shift of like hey fans check out fan fandom central like it's like man we're just a home for fan this is where the fans come this is for real fans it's all the branding owned by uh nbc universal comcast shineheart wig company you know we're owned we are owned by the kingdom of saudi arabia so like do not do your fandom in the kingdom of saudi arabia but like this is where we get our money from as opposed to like clubs and like comic-con was like in the very early days very diy and and fan or reader driven yes and now all these corporations have

figured out how to exploit the fan to its fullest by creating the fan community and cultivating it and monetizing it emailing every other day of like yeah hey it's it's legion of fans and we got the new we got the hot tip on the jade silent bob reboot funko pop and like when i start much it's too much when i started high school it was i was never that insecure about liking comics or whatever but like geek was an insult and then like after a while corporations were like geekdom we've talked i think i we talked about geekdom before or we're going to talk about it i can't remember we were talking about geekdom essentially and it's like it's a word now that's been branded and it's taken what used to be a slam and now made it into like this thing that they can brand

yeah and then they can like try to control your fandom so now it's weird it's weird how this thing is flipped around yeah now we're being sold our own yes so like all being way into something was was uh it's not a thing to be years ago it was not cool no because corporations couldn't make money on it and there's a real like but they weren't monetizing it i i feel like there's a very super fit there's a clip tom sharpling always plays on the best show of chris hardwick stand-up which i've definitely summoned an evil god with that phrase but like uh chris hardwick sucks um but there's a clip of him going like i love i'm a nerd i love comic books i love sci-fi and like the examples he gives it's like i like the star wars i like the lord of the rings movies like yeah i like this one billion dollar thing and

this other billion dollar thing and it's just like so gross is it where doesn't he say where my nerds at where my nerds at i think that's the phrase i mean it was already it's already bad 11 before it was clear he was a creep but like jesus how dare you speak ill of clip cup cast member chris hardwick um hey he was nice then you had a fun time with him then hey different time uh we didn't answer you know i don't think i've thought about this like who would what's what's like a subtle disney bound we could pull up maybe we have to pose it to the audience hey audience dress us up yes what can we and i don't even mean like jokey what do you what could we like casually pull off yeah that's because obviously we could all put on donald duck sailor suits all day oh my gosh yeah and do

yeah i mean because like the big the big five goofy i mean i could wear a vest and like a pants with a patch on it but i could wear his his hat. Have you considered Little Red Shorts? I have. A couple minutes ago, I considered Little Red Shorts. Good, good. So that's on the table. I'm just trying, like, what fits with your, well, I don't know. We both wear, like, floral shirts.

I like floral shirts a lot. Polos. What about Pete from Goof Troop? Does he, I feel like he wears fun stuff. Let me see. He wears fun stuff let me see he wears fun stuff i could be wrong let me see i don't want to be pete oh pete's the dad and he's just a goofy he wears like polos oh no he wears the he wears like a dress shirt with a tie i mean that's an easy honestly that's not what i was thinking of i'm thinking of a different character max is easy

max is like 90s like this is like pete if i was Pete bounding, I would wear like a, that's another look I could pull off. I don't exactly look like Pete in his size. We should all pull off different Pete's. Yeah. Your steamboat will eat Pete. Yeah. Right. The different looks of Pete over the years.

That should be all collection. The Pete collection. Yeah. Like the John collection we were talking about earlier. Yeah. Yeah. Could I pull off like a casual cosplay of Dr. Nigel Channing?

Oh, that's a good one. Yeah. Shrunk the audience. Anything with this suit. Like I feel like it could be cobbled together. I feel like even dream finder. If you,

if you get big colors. Yeah. There's a bright, uh shirts tie suit like i feel like you could color block that pretty easy you know what you would do you would do well the drake mallard darkwing ducks alter ego cosplay the sweater vest and the dress shirt oh yeah you could pull that off and i think that would no one would bat an eye See this is the kind of thing I like Cause I don't know that You're gonna walk into Disney

And even some of your More hardcore fans Are gonna go Drake Mallard Darkwing Duck's alter ego But if you're wearing this It's like That's my type of costume

I'm I like an obscure thing Gadget Jumpsuits and style Gadget from Rescue Reign That's a real easy one That's very easy But yo

That's right on the nose Yeah Like people will go gadget because you have the goggles chip and dale rescue rangers leather jackets wine shirts yeah dale dale would be cool no pants walking into disneyland wine shirt and no pants uh-huh well if you have any ideas for us let us know uh um but i you know i did try on a little i did try on a little something uh i i threw on a uh pink uh pink sparkly mickey ears and a pink sparkly mickey ear probably mini ear backpack and with a bow uh i i think i'm working it here what do y'all think oh yeah sure i mean that's pulling it off what's the backpack i can't see that far oh it's you know it's it's pink and sparkly there's a bow on it oh those backpacks i like that honestly my shirt was pink too what company is that um

is it dooney and bork or is it the other one there's one it's a it's handwriting what uh friend of the show carly weisel had been posting a bunch of they've they've like there's a it's handwriting what uh company has a show carly weisel had been posting a bunch of they've they've like there's a line of these tiny backpacks now of like a bunch of different stuff well i didn't buy them let me know if you think they're pricey they're that dooney and bork stuff those purses are really pricey yeah yes uh well this is one of the stores where heidi klum is selling a 600 mini mouse ears oh with 150 sparkling swarovski crystals yes uh those are it's probably sold out by the time this is coming out but as we speak uh i believe actually yesterday as we recorded this she was like at downtown at the disney dress shop uh signing these taking photos something yeah i did see that i'm with another

seems like a lot. Yeah, it's more than... I wonder if they really had... How many people went down for that? For the Heidi Klum $600 ears? All the seal stands out there. That's correct, right? They're not married anymore, though.

Oh, then they went down to yell at her. Yeah. I don't think... I hope they're on good terms. I think they have kids. They do have kids. I seem to know a lot. Yeah. I don't think. I hope they're on good terms. I think they have kids. They do have kids. I seem to know a lot. That's what I got about the Disney dress shop.

Great. Marceline's Confectionary. Marceline's Confectionary. You know, I'm a fan. You know I stan. Yeah, Marceline's Confectionary, it's kind of like the candy restaurants you'd find on Buena Vista Street or Main Street.

Almost exactly the same inventory. Same offerings, same picture windows where you can watch them make stuff. It's very much more of a minimalist design named after Marceline Mazura, where Walt lived as a young child. That's what they say there. Yeah. They say Mazura. I like it. I'm a big fan of the chocolate-covered peanut butter graham cracker. They used to call it a peanut butter sandwich.

I don't know what they still sell that as. I've had that. That is very good. I like to get the Goofy Sour Balls as gifts or a big hit. I haven't had the Goofy Sour Balls in years, but I do love a Goofy Sour Ball. I think I've talked before, my favorite candy, and if anyone remembers this, they used to sell plastic containers with the characters' faces on it full of Tartan Tinies, which were some of my favorite candies.

And they would have Sour Balls in those containers, they'd have Tartan Tinies, both fantastic candies, but they don't carry Tartan Tinies anymore. Another company is making them. That's a whole other podcast. Yeah. You did find Tartan tinies anymore another company is making them that's a whole nother podcast you did find tartan tinies yes very excited conversation with a candy store proprietor yes who's like worked at that candy store owned that for like 25 years and he's like oh yeah and he's like yes we have tartan tinies of course as high as the eye can see he sang a song too about it uh he was very happy and tiny kingdom i was like grabbing hands with him and circling the candy shop very small it's very narrow so you're knocking a lot of shit over

yeah you're the chosen one michael it was always you uh i went to the tartan tiny factory after that and uh okay so uh marceline's yeah great fun you know what i like when we were there the other day they have a take a number like a deli counter right at the entrance like yes it is very efficient i don't think it's really in uh the theme style of the either main street or buena vista street but uh you can uh it doesn't matter at downtown disney they want to get people in and out and on their way yeah um i had i had a thought and then i realized i was wrong to think it and i have a similar thought about the world of disney at first i was like it's kind of a bummer to me that all this stuff is available outside of the park because in some ways you're like oh the special

treats are for in the park and there's feeling of like you're on the main street and you're watching the candy apples but then i realized the park is so goddamn expensive that if you want to go and have some disney magic and your disney magic is buying a nine dollar candy apple with that looks like winning the poo then that's nice that you can get in down to disney so i made a reversal at first i was gonna say like it's kind of it's it's i wish the treats were specific to inside but I was wrong thinking that and I'm glad that this exists here sure and plus if you're staying at the hotels and you change your mind it's like I think I want to go back for that like it's a lot easier to just go downstairs or down the street sure to downtown Disney and grab something um but yeah it's exactly the same almost exactly the same treats you can

get there's a shortbread cookie drizzled with a rainbow, whatever it is, fun frosting. Great. I've had it twice. There's a tiger. In the park, I ate a tiger tail. It was a Cheshire Cat's tail, and I ate it. There was marshmallow inside, and I ate it. Is that from a candy store?

Yeah, they have that at Marceline's, or a version of it. Oh, that sounds good. Yeah, that's pretty good. It's like cookie-ish on the outside and a marshmallow inside. Very good. I love that.

And then, this is a great place. I buy a lot of, you know, holiday. I buy coffee for the family, or you buy- Oh, I've done that.

Yeah, big hit. You buy, there's a tea set, and everyone likes that, and it's pretty good. And yeah, Marceline's good. That's what I'll say.

Good. Cattall? Cattall. Cattall! I think you have the most experience with Cattall of all of us. Well, I've been there twice. Yes. I think that's about right.

I've had some drinks around there. I've been to Uva a lot more than Cattall. They're related, but it's confusing because well is this maybe where i think this is the official beginning of in i've been talking about these unused uh district names yes and this is the beginning of apparently the wine bar district so now we're talking um but i go to uva a lot more than katal we have of course separated them into different levels to make things as complicated as possible but they are pretty separate uh organisms even though you go to the outdoor uva bar and it all comes from the indoor kitchen at katal i've only been to katal

twice i think my general feeling is you're gonna get the vibe you're gonna get the it's it all seems good it's good food but if you want you know drinks and mediterranean tinged food but you need to put a little speed on it uva's your place katal's is probably a great place to sit down i've enjoyed the meals i've had there but i don't think i'm ever if you're in the mood for a sit down nice dinner at disney probably you're gonna do nappa rose or uh or obviously carthay if you can get our steak s55 or i think i think it's maybe trouble because it falls into the nether region of is it it's like pretty good food but you can get better food very close right um it does have some very specific food like i am like if i wasn't so tired last night i was like i wish i

kind of want to go to katal because they have a paella menu okay they have maple leaf duck which i love duck wow and then they have suckling pig and i'm like and they even have paella with suckling pig and i'm like i gotta eat a katal i gotta go to katal paella with suckling pig doesn't i mean we'll make it down there before the end of the saga and update us. Yeah. I think you need to get some suckling pig before this is all said and done. Yeah. We can do addendums.

Sector Keeper's not here. Rules are off. All bets are off. So, we'll come back to it. We're still pretty early in the saga, so I would like to take a minute to give some logistical. Sorry, the ordeal. And it's levels and stages. Yeah, it it's early but it's getting to me hashtag set to keep her cricket wireless severance so just some logistical advice for the listener katal is one of the restaurants that you can

validate five hours of downtown disney parking katal thank god labrea bakery cafe naples Downtown Disney parking. Thank God. La Brea Bakery Cafe, Naples Ristorante y Bar, Ralph Brennan's Jazz Kitchen, Splitsville Luxury Lades, and Tortilla Joe's. Why go to a website when we could read the website to you? When I can read it. Catal, also one of the restaurants, that if you're staying at one of the Disney hotels, you have access to preferred dining reservations which uh not just dining it includes preferred reservations at the bibbidi-bobbidi boutique blue bayou carthay circle restaurant katal goofy's kitchen this is so close in the alphabet get to the z's naples restaurante e-bar uh plaza

every place ralph brennan's jazz kitchen tortilla Joe's. They set aside some reservations if you are a hotel guest so that you, you know, it's a little feature. Make me wait like a second class citizen? Fuck this. Yeah, there's a class system. It's classes. You get a case of the hungry. It's a perk. It's a perk, you know?

You're about to say get a case of the hungries. Get a case of the hungries, you know? I heard what you were going for. A case of the hungries get a case of the hungries you know i heard what you were going for a case of the yummies um case of the yummies very helpful if i have stayed at a hotel and unknowingly the next day there was a run disney event and everything is a madhouse did you accidentally get swept up in a run disney mob a group of people running thankfully because that's all at like four four to a.m. in the morning. It's crazy. Which of us would be the none of us want to run Disney.

No, no. I could do a 5K. Whoa, really? It's only a few miles. Said confidently. I don't think I'd finish fast. We've got to volunteer. I think I'd do some speed walking for that. We need someone to review a run Disney. We haven't done that on the podcast yet. So I think you just signed yourself up. And there's run run universal too you can run all the parks the minion it's a

minion run run dollywood not much of a run i'm more of like a walker wait a minute you got to run a little bit that's the whole thing a little bit but you got to pace yourself so you're gonna walk disney why not i don't think they put a cap on you they don't they're not gonna in fact there's all these photo stops anyway so i don't think they put a cap on you. They don't. They're not going to come by and yell at you. In fact, there's all these photo stops anyway, so I don't think you're really... It sounds like you're going to walk the racetrack and then take photos. I'm going to briskly walk.

The distance is... Alright, you can still... We'll still send you... Stepped way down from the initial confidence from a confident run to a briskly walk. I think I could get up to speed in a month to like to walk no to to to get a little pep in my step to do to jog briskly walk you have to prepare okay 5k or what right there's different length tracks i'm sure there is it just sounds

like you don't need like a ton of physical fitness to do what you're describing you do because it's like photo stops every few that's probably accurate yeah i mean i think you can't i think it's customizable if you want to do a full marathon or a half marathon if you want to go for speed but i think if they're like if you just want to come and like speed walk a little and then take a picture with um uh the cinderella the mice all right uh you are welcome to that's good all right well we'll send you that's my cosplay i'm uh jacque jacque the mouse oh yeah i haven't worn a lot of cloth uh like kind of floppy hats in my day but um um now's the time to start yeah uh so so take that anyway long and short know that parking advice know that preferred reservation advice if you're gonna visit

downtown disney and hey if you're really getting that five hours pop in the parks for a little bit they can't find you if you have an annual pass what a bad boy um now i don't have a lot to say i'm sure you would go to this place and have a nice restaurant and i think there's some seats where you can see the fireworks and uh i'm just more more of a fan of uva uh than katal and especially i mean look we had some rough stuff with the patina restaurant group a little while ago yeah so uh yeah it's another patina it's uh yeah with what we've lived through i don't know uh you know how much i want to push a business into them but uh the gambito family the patina restaurant group our first boss i was so rattled but so but there is an event uh i was

like there doesn't seem like a lot to talk about. It's just that Katal seems nice and good probably. Held on? Is it an opening day restaurant? I think it is. Yeah, yeah. Well, the font would suggest that. Sure.

That's a good point. I was saying that's like the, like we, we, we, in surveying everything, like, do we talk about this already? That the Katal and Uvabar font is one of the it's one of the most the biggest signs of 2001 of like sloppy shitty 2001 because there now are some cool aesthetics yeah throughout down to the spots of them different fonts on the vertical sign than the horizontal side a very 2001 move the new naples layout and stuff like that's like it doesn't fit next to this and some of the other new signs for sure it It should all be that craftsman state. It should all fit in with the Grand California Hotel, which is what Jason was saying. Yes.

Or if you have to do something, take the World of Disney telescope and the nephews and put them on top of the Cataw restaurant. At least do that. If you're going to make a gaudy like this, at least have a giant gaudy telescope with the duck nephews. Go all the way. Yeah, it's neither here nor there. It is so crazy.

They built this whole district, beautiful craftsman building behind it, made a quarter of it look in that style. Just extend the craftsman the whole way. Yeah. I think we'd probably be coming in a lot more like, that's nice, that's nice, if everything was craftsman style, because it's never really gone out of style. The way that they blew up Disney Springs and just gave it all the the same style which is a cool actually thought through new style yeah disney downtown disney is a mishmash and i do no matter how good of a restaurant catal is uh the it's that

that font is what you see that's what's facing the public gross are they doing it piecemeal though in downtown disney because they can issue like they have a lot more structural control in disney springs where like well we can blow it all up at once downtown disney we have to deal with the city of anaheim perhaps that but also i wonder if uh the patina group is i wonder if they're figuring out if they're going to keep it this restaurant because stuff's still closing stuff has been closing at a pretty decent clip we're gonna be at the 20 year mark we're gonna be at the 20 year mark so i wonder if they're still i'm just wondering yeah if they're figuring out like we'll put a new concept in or will we just re-update everything that's going on

here it feels like with the redo of naples though patina is at least leaving one foot in downtown disney right like i don't think they would redo a whole restaurant and then go like anyway we're out of here yes yeah yeah um but yeah i wonder like there's no other catal restaurant right this is the only catal restaurant no no no there's a ton of patina restaurants but they're all they all seem different so maybe yeah patina has a new concept they want to try out that's true could still be patina so there's a possibility yeah there's the imagination imagination of joaquin splish all knows no bounds yes i mean we all wait for joaquin splish all for his next concept and there will be a smoke signal from his apartment window and then we will know

and then maybe maybe as an idea maybe walking joaquim will just say, you know, make the font Papyrus. He'll just say that it'll be Katal still, but now it'll be Papyrus font, not whatever this is. There's only one way to make it worse. If there was some font that merged Papyrus and Comic Sans into a new... Maybe he's trying to invent a new font. Oh. We don't get a new concept until... Will that be the font for the Avatar sequels?

Ha. In the way that everyone was like, oh, you know, once upon a time in Hollywood, Tarantino clearly poking fun at his reputation for the foot stuff. There's so much of it. If James Cameron dug down of like, oh, you made fun of my papyrus. Well, what if I? Ha ha. Visionary filmmaker James Cameron is working with visionary chef Joaquin Splishall to craft an all new font that will define the 21st century.

And designer free agent Johnny I. I, so, but then, all right, so none of this is that fascinating with Catalan being mean about the font. But I'm going to go out on a positive note with something I don't i feel like it would have come up by now if you guys uh had found it and i'm delighted to break it to you okay you know that every year at katal restaurant there is an event called breakfast with santa no everyone's dream to have breakfast with santa claus definitely sure you sit on his lap like would have milk and cookies with him but breakfast one day a year i think it is one i don't know it could be recurring over a month and you you sign up for times of it i'm looking at some website now um

let's go on sale in july whoa wow i for oh you know what they said is that there's a christmas in july discount oh you have foresight to book right which we did not this year so we're gonna have to wait with the masses uh to have our cherished breakfast with santa uh let me tell you what happens at breakfast with santa adults are welcome to sip on bottomless mimosas i'm in while little ones are treated to a cookies little ones or grown podcasters are treated to a cookies and milk station and steaming cups of hot chocolate from the cocoa cart hot cocoa cart it says you got it hot cocoa it's a living polar express after they share their Christmas wishes with Santa he will gift every child with a stuffed animal and a personalized stocking. Guests can make reservation today to enjoy this beloved Yuletide tradition that is sure to put a smile on every child's face and make memories that will last a lifetime.

I want Santa to come out with the big papaya pan. Like, that's what I, I want him to come out. Did someone order papaya with suckling pig? I think I know. I think there's a good boy. You there, little older boy. I have something for you. I hear you've been very good this year.

Many good podcast episodes. What would you like? Perhaps something suckling? Yes, that's right. Would a pig do? With some spiced rice with saffron? I'd love that. I don't know if you've been that good. Okay, you have.

Where's the little boy who enjoys duck? Which one of you is here? Blitzen, get out of here. Stab your antlers into that tray and bring this boy some suckling big forthwith chasing with all meat christmas meats we gotta go santa see santa then we have to it's it looks like it's like the 7th of december through the 23rd 24th oh it's all

month long yeah so it's at least yeah three weeks wow um wow i didn't know i knew i it's interesting because you find different stuff like i didn't know up until a couple years that they did thanksgiving every year at the disneyland hotel which we did which we really enjoyed so they do have these little weird uh holiday celebrations uh in different spots and we did we did easter at storytellers which i was hoping was going to be this fun thing where everyone was dressed up adequately in easter clothes like all the characters that is and they were just wearing their safari gear like it was a normal buffet and that was a bit of a bummer but no bonnets i wanted bonnets i wanted like easter suits your easter finery easter finery

yes but it was thanksgiving we were thanksgiving and uh the characters were dressed up in some different mini had her apron because she's making the food we were all eating yeah it was fantastic and he cooked for you she cooked yes the country bears of course they were in the regular yeah that's the cousins from the old from the holler you know they're just coming they're bringing some shine and yeah their their music their beautiful music they dressed up in their fancy clothes then they wouldn't be being themselves right i guess henry has a dickie and bow tie and top hat he is the master of ceremonies yeah that's true also a good cosplay potentially or not a cosplay but a uh a disney bound a country

bear disney bound is maybe your best bet yeah it's a vest a lot of vests but not a tiny teddy bear hat no a big one maybe a big one yeah full bonnet yes uh sun bonnet like the sun bonnet trio i guess the answer is that we all need sun bonnet trio bonnets yeah not okay currently available at the disney dress shop and those country bears are going away a lot in a lot of places and i'm worried they're going away in florida so this is going to be there we're not going to see any of this in the disney dress shop and those country bears are going away a lot in a lot of places and i'm worried they're going away in florida so this is going to be there we're not going to see any of this in the disney dress shop we're not going to see i feel maybe in japan because they're very popular there still yeah so we'll get our bonnets in japan um well did we make it i think we got it i think oh my god i think we survived level two stage And oh my God, it's materializing.

There's the sector keeper's item that he's given us to put in the inventory. Oh my God. It's a pink sparkly backpack filled with suckling pig. Hey. Neat. So if we need strength. Something for Scott, something for Jason.

Protein. I'll put it over one shoulder and you can just eat straight out of it follow closely behind me you didn't have to tell him twice suckle that suckling pig he'll eat suckling pig out of a backpack uh that's like two items in one so i thank you sector keeper thanks so much and we will repay you by finding that level keeper and uh and saving him so uh everybody listening make sure uh you uh you you survived uh uh pockets red denton disney ordeal hashtag ddo uh hashtag uh save the level keeper and uh keep following us on twitter facebook instagram and for three bonus episodes a month go to patreon.com slash podcast the ride uh back for day six tomorrow

are we excited about day six oh very yes well it's another boss day so we gotta oh no we need some suckling pig strength um we got but hey there But hey, there's fun snacks coming up and maybe some relaxing footwear. Great. So join us tomorrow. Bye. Forever Dog. This has been a Forever Dog production. Executive produced by Mike Carlson, Jason Sheridan, Scott Gairdner,

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